1 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Ozone podcast presented by by Star Credit Union, 2 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: featuring Jaguars senior writer John Oser and executive producer Dave 3 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: de Candice. This week's guests excited about talking to him because, frankly, 4 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 1: I haven't had a chance to talk to him a 5 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: whole lot over his career. He hasn't been a starter 6 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: until until the last couple of years. He was a 7 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 1: guy that on a defensive line was sort of overshadowed 8 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: at times by play as Campbell unique in Gockway, but 9 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: for Jaguars observers and people who watched this team closely, 10 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: he's a guy who's sort of been coming on and 11 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 1: in the last year or so has really let his 12 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: personality show. It's his personality that I'm particularly excited about 13 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: having Jaguars fans to get to know a little better. 14 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: Jaguars observers probably realized by now that I'm talking about 15 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: Jaguars defensive end Dwan Smooth. Dwan will get right to it. 16 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: I have been impressed the last two years, obviously with 17 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: your play, your improvement, But tell me how you're doing 18 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 1: right now. You're thirteen games into this thing. It's the NFL. 19 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 1: How are you doing physically, because defensive lineman at the 20 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: end of the season usually aren't off that injury report. 21 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: It seems like you're doing okay. Uh yeah, I mean 22 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: I'm fine. I'm a little you know, I got regular 23 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 1: banged up little injuries and stuff like that here and there, 24 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 1: but I'm still able to go. I think. I just 25 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: that's just like a credit to the preparation I had 26 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: off season. I didn't stop training like I literally took 27 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: two weeks off and then I just trained all the 28 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: way until we got into camp. So I mean that's 29 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: just a testament to my body being able to take 30 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: all these blows for the past thirteen weeks. I want 31 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: to get into some of what you do in the 32 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: off season a little later, but first, um, personally, this season, Uh, 33 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: another productive season, another season where you're starting to get 34 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: those sack numbers. What's been the reason for the improvement 35 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: really sort of a dady improvement for you since maybe 36 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: midway through your second season. What do you attribute maybe 37 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: the consistency that you're showing the last couple of years. 38 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: I would say definitely Number one is, uh the opportunity. 39 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 1: My opportunities have went up a lot more. I've had 40 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: more opportunity on the field, but also just my work ethic. Um, 41 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: I feel like I changed. I kind of changed a 42 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: lot of how I work in the off season and 43 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: how I kind of prepare for the season. Um. The 44 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: last like the last two years, like when my son 45 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: was born, I kind of just just kind of shocked 46 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 1: me a little bit, you know, kind of put a 47 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: little a little fire in me. And when it came 48 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: when it came to that offseason, I just trained as 49 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: hard as I could. I picked up like different um styles, 50 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 1: Like I started to do martial arts, and I started 51 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: to do a lot of pilates and stuff, and it 52 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: just started working for me, and I've just been sticking 53 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 1: sticking with it. It's been working for me for the 54 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: past couple of years. Take me through that a little bit, 55 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: because you've done a lot. I think it started the 56 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: off season before nineteen that you really started, I don't 57 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: say experimenting, but trying to figure out how to do 58 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: it right. UM. Kind of take me through your path, 59 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 1: what you've done in the off seasons and sort of 60 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: what your thing is now. What have you sort of 61 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: settled on. UM, Well, I've tried UM. Yeah, I would 62 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,679 Speaker 1: say the first two years I tried. I even tried 63 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: this crazy workout. I went out to like San Francisco, 64 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: and I've worked out with a lot of like NBA 65 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: guys and stuff like that, working on my conditioning, and 66 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 1: I was like half of what I did. We ran 67 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: up a whole bunch of like sand hills, ran a 68 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: whole bunch of like, um crazy like sand mountains. It 69 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: was crazy. It was kind of crazy like the thinking 70 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: that I was doing, and uh, it really slimmed me 71 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: out a lot. I got. I got a lot of 72 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: conditioning stuff like that, but it didn't really work for me. 73 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: This is coming into my second year, and then the 74 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: third year I was I just thought was like, well, 75 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: there has to be somebody here in Jacksonville that can 76 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: train me, you know and like commit everything to me 77 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: or whatever, commit everything and too too whatever I'm doing. 78 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: And I was able to find that at Rise and 79 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: Grind here here in Jacksonville and also a Combatisan limited. 80 00:03:57,760 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: And you know, after after I worked there one time, 81 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: I was dead tired, like the most tired I've ever been, 82 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: Like this is for me, this is exactly what I need. 83 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: It gave me that that um that shock that I needed, 84 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: and it helped me, and it's been helping me for 85 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: the last couple of years. And some of it was 86 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 1: a matter of, uh, maybe getting a little too thin 87 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 1: at some point or too light. Do you like where 88 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: you are? It seems like you're where you ought to 89 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: be physically. Do you feel that, Yeah, I definitely do. 90 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 1: I want to. I want to stay within the two 91 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: seventy five range. I know, my last my last couple 92 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: of games, I've been like in the two seventy eight 93 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: range and it's been it's been working for me great. 94 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: I'm trying to stay within that range. Just try to 95 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: get stronger and get a little slimmer, you know, just 96 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 1: try to try to do whatever I can't, but stay 97 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: within that way. I think fans who are listening to 98 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: this might not grasp it's not an uncommon process for 99 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 1: guys to go through what you went through. You get 100 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: to the NFL. It's a different game than college, and 101 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: you need different tools physically. Sometimes you just need to 102 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: change who you are once you're in the NFL. But 103 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: it's more common people think, and some guys sort of 104 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: never find it. Huge process for you and you feel 105 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 1: fortunate that you kind of found it. When some guys don't. 106 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: Oh definitely. I mean I feel like I feel like 107 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 1: I've been blessed. I feel like my persistence of just 108 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 1: trying to find it and looking for it and keep 109 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: searching for it has helped me and has has has 110 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: benefited me, and in a bunch of ways. I mean, 111 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 1: even even my family as well, them supporting me as well, 112 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: not not ever looking at my performance on the field 113 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: is like anything. They were just like, you got it, 114 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: just keep it going, just keep trying to find find 115 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 1: that thing that works for you. And I just kept 116 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: I just kept searching for it. I mean, even with 117 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: the jags and stuff, I didn't really know what the 118 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: plan was when I was gonna play, you know, Rushau, 119 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: I was gonna play big In or anything like that. 120 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: Kept getting moving around, and you know, I just I 121 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: just kind of just honed in on myself. It was like, 122 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: all right, well, I'm just training as hard as I 123 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 1: can put whatever I can on the field, and then 124 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: that everything else will kind of just work out for itself. 125 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 1: And that's what it's done. The first two seasons, no 126 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: sacks Uh inactive for a little while that season. I 127 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: remember talking to you during that when you got on 128 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:05,559 Speaker 1: the field, and it had been an emotional thing because 129 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: you want to be playing. How whoa did you get 130 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:14,679 Speaker 1: in terms of confidence, in terms of just wondering human 131 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 1: nature said, it must have been a strug. Oh yeah, 132 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: it definitely was. I mean training that hard and working 133 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: just as hard as everybody else on the field, like 134 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: and not being there to even like show what you 135 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 1: can do or performing anyway for eight full games like 136 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 1: that sucked. But I definitely want to say, like like 137 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: it helped me. You know that that deep dark place 138 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 1: that I went into, it kind of gives me that 139 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: fire when I go out there every Sunday now, And 140 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 1: like looking back, like I got so much better going 141 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: against I mean like the first team going against Cam 142 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: Robinson every time, going against the first team every every 143 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: single play, like a scout team and stuff like that, 144 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: and I got like I was a was on every 145 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: scout I was on every special teams, and it kind 146 00:06:58,000 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: of just gave me that grit that I needed, you know. 147 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: It's it gave me that that strive to just succeed. 148 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: And when I was going against those guys, it made 149 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 1: me so much better. So I feel like that that 150 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: time helped me and definitely motor me and like what 151 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:15,679 Speaker 1: I am today? What would uh, four year veteran Dawn 152 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: Smith tell the kid on draft deck? I would say, 153 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: don't come in with expectations, just just kind of come 154 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: in with just just work as hard as you can 155 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: and everything's gonna everything's gonna work out. Don't come in 156 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: with any expectations like I'm gonna be first team, the 157 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:35,119 Speaker 1: second team. You never know what what the organization hasn't 158 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: planned for you. But as long as you work as 159 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: hard as you can and you put put the best 160 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: performance out there in the field, and that's that's all 161 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: you can really do. Like you can control what you 162 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: can control. You mentioned your son being born. Uh, how 163 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,679 Speaker 1: does that change you? Um? I feel like it's definitely 164 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: made me grow up. And like I already know a 165 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: lot of people say this, like whenever you have a kid, 166 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: like kind of like life kind of stops, you know, 167 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: you kind of just look at it like that that's 168 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: the center of the universe and you have to do 169 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: like whatever you have to do to support them. And 170 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: that's kind of the position I was in, you know. 171 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: I mean that's kind of that's still the position i'man 172 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: in the mindset I mean, I mean, I'm just trying 173 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: to do whatever I can to show him like the 174 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: right way, you know. And I feel like I've grown 175 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: up so much. I've I've matured so much, and I 176 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: just I love being a dad. I love I love 177 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: having a family, love you know, being a husband. So 178 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: it's great. And now that turns into motivation for football, right, Yeah, 179 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: it definitely does. Just just knowing that I'll be able 180 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:35,839 Speaker 1: to support my family for generations and like the performances 181 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: that I have been putting putting on, not not putting 182 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: a number on or anything like that, but just knowing 183 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: that whatever I do end up getting in the off season, 184 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: it will be enough to support my fair you know, 185 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: tell me about your mind, cause my cleatsonitie and it 186 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: was interesting. I know that meant a lot to you. Yeah, 187 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: it mean it meant a lot to me. I was 188 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: just I was so happy to finally get the kids, 189 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 1: like to get the kids in like UH into it. 190 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: You know, Jim Jim's UH is Jacksonville Art and Music School. 191 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 1: We had UM. We had them bring a blank canvas 192 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,199 Speaker 1: of the cleats and all the kids they all did 193 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: their own individual designs. UM. I first heard about them 194 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: was from my Duela because my wife had um we 195 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: we both had a natural birth or whatever, so she 196 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: had no medicine, no nothing. Our dula. She introduced it. 197 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: She introduced it to the school and um we went 198 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: there and like their play night and stuff like that, 199 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 1: and we saw how interacted the kids were, how creative 200 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: they were, how outgoing they were. It's just like they 201 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: were having a great time. So I just thought that 202 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: there was a great opportunity for like someone to really 203 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: you know, bring awareness to that. And that's what I 204 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: tried to do this this past year was you know, 205 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 1: allowing them to put their autum display and then they 206 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: painted the shoes, so every every uh, every kid that 207 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: had a chance to to color the cleats and stuff 208 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 1: like that had a little That's something you'll stay involved with. 209 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: It sounds like, oh yeah, definitely. I mean, I'm I'm 210 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to they're doing like the workshop where 211 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: they're like building computers and stuff, and I'm like a 212 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: big techie, so I'm looking forward to actually like getting 213 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 1: my hand hands on that and teaching the kids as 214 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 1: well and trying to prep for this. I kind of 215 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: heard that as well. City's really into technology now. Everybody 216 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: these days is sort of into technology. How are you 217 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: into technology? I built what three computers now in my 218 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: in my office. Also, UM built phones as well. Okay, 219 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: I'll show that as well, and and also with my 220 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: YouTube as well too. UM and they say build phones. 221 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: Take me through that. What is the Are you putting 222 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: plastic onto parts or what is that? No, it's like 223 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 1: it's like basically you get you get your CPU, you 224 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: get your GPU, you get your your CPU, cooler, fans, 225 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: all that stuff, and you just put it within Like 226 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: I mean, it's kind of like still in plastic. It's 227 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 1: like it's still in plastic kind of like case. You 228 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: just you have to install it all you have a 229 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: big motherboard and you have to plug it on in. 230 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: It's kind of like kind of like a puzzle piece. 231 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: And then after the hobby or do you use the phone? 232 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: Oh no, it's a hobby. It's definitely a hobby. It's 233 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: something that you know, I've learned to do along the way, 234 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: and like now like I'm just I'm just creating just 235 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:14,839 Speaker 1: different things now with it. And I wish I could 236 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: show you some pictures of some videos on it. But 237 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: it's it's really cool and you know, it's exciting. And 238 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: I'm assuming these computers you built aren't small mm hmm. 239 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: Are they gaming computers or what's the I have a 240 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 1: gaming computer and I have an editing editing computer as well. Okay, 241 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 1: editing for your videos that you do and everything. So okay, 242 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 1: and find a question on these lines. Take me through 243 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: the video concept. When you say your videos, tell them 244 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 1: what that means and what you're doing with that on 245 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: my YouTube channel okay, my smooth Smooth TV. The the 246 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: YouTube channel is a vlog style channel. I basically just 247 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: flowed my life as as a professional athlete. I kind 248 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: of I kind of gave it a break this last 249 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: couple of months or whatever, but I'm to get back 250 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: to it in the off season. But I kind of 251 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: just show what it's like, you know, living living as me. 252 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:09,239 Speaker 1: It's the one smooth. I mean, it's it's funny, it's entertaining. 253 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 1: You know, it's motivational as well. So I definitely would 254 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: say check it out, give me a subscribe, you know, 255 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: check it out. So probably in the off season they'll 256 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: be able to start catching back with you. Yeah, definitely. 257 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: On on a not so pleasant topic, one and twelve 258 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:27,199 Speaker 1: twelve straight losses. How are you dealing with that? How 259 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: does the player deal with that? Uh, you just had 260 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: to be internally motivated or how does that work? What's 261 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: your mindset on that front? It's kind of yes, it's 262 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: kind of like internally motivated. We know that, like as 263 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 1: a team, we have to kind of come together and 264 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: we've we've we've got a lot closer at the team. 265 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: I feel like because all the tough times we've been 266 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 1: going through, we've been having to pick each other up 267 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 1: and kind of get to know each other a lot more. 268 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,199 Speaker 1: So I would say it's been tough. But you know, 269 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: the individual motivation, Like as long as we're out there 270 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: performing individually the best we can, it's going to help 271 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: the team like collective. So now that's where that's what 272 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 1: we're all trying to do within our within our scheme. Plus, 273 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: you gotta be a pro, right he didn't that part 274 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:08,839 Speaker 1: of it. Yeah, you always gotta be a pro. I 275 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: mean we're professional athletes. You gotta be a pro. You 276 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: gotta come in every day, you know, work as hard 277 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: as you can. You gotta be on time every day. 278 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: So that's a part of it as well. And it 279 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: sounds like they were virtual so we don't get a 280 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: chance to talk to you guys in the locker room 281 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:26,199 Speaker 1: and the way we once did. But it sounds like 282 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: overall the team is thinking like you're thinking, meaning you know, 283 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 1: I wanted twolve you see some guys quitting, but you 284 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,199 Speaker 1: don't see that and you don't sense it talking to 285 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: you guys. No, no, I mean you you don't quit, 286 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: like either way, like if you're if you're out there 287 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: and you're playing football, like there's no quit if you 288 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: quit either either get pancakes, either get hurt like something 289 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 1: like that. You can't quit, you know. It's I mean, 290 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: it might look like it on TV. It's like, oh, 291 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 1: this guy's quitting like that, this team's quitting. But we're 292 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 1: trying as hard as we can. I mean, sometimes the 293 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 1: game just kind of gets out of the hand and 294 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 1: like football is like all momentum games, so the momentum 295 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: goes like that's that's what it is, you know, But 296 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: we're all we're out there plan as hard as we can, 297 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 1: doing what we can. We got a whole lot of 298 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 1: guys that you wouldn't even think would even be playing 299 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: right now, and they're they're playing great, has been playing great, 300 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 1: so wait, we're trying. People loved hearing you last week 301 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: talk about Jacksonville. I know you. I do like to 302 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: stay with the Jaguars. Who knows new general manager? Everybody 303 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: knows that terrain. What is it about Jacksonville that has 304 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: sort of dazzled you where you feel that way about it? 305 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: I mean, come me, coming from Columbus, Ohio, I don't 306 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: like big cities. I don't like a lot of population 307 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: and people all on your face and stuff. I like 308 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: it to kind of be mellow, you know. It's it's 309 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: real relaxing and calm here. And it's like also like 310 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: a great place to live, like me, And I'm gonna 311 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: go back to me being from the Midwest. I don't 312 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: like the colde either. It's great weather here, like it's 313 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: it's a it's a whole lot of opportunities as well 314 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: when it comes to real estate here too. I mean 315 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: the Jacksonville has been built up like like in the 316 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: last like ten ten some years. So I mean I'm 317 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: to be trying to do that as well, you know, 318 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: with with with the contract that I do end up getting. 319 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: So I mean it's a lot of opportunity here. It's 320 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: my my family loves it. The weathers here. I mean, 321 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: I don't see a reason to leave. This season hasn't 322 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: gotten you down, has it? No, you're doing for me. 323 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: For me personally, I mean it's it's been it's been 324 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: getting me down. Like as a team effort. Yes, it 325 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: sucked that we lost, but I mean we've been losing, 326 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: but like individually, like I've I've been happy. You know, Hey, 327 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: you want the last thing we do on this is 328 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: what we call the ozone five five. It's five quick questions. 329 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: We have some fun with it, short or as long 330 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: as you want. Want what's your last binge? Wash? My 331 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: last binge wash? Snowfall? Yeah, it's a it's it's a 332 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: little it's a mature series. I'll say that. Yeah, that's 333 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: really the kids go to bad I get it. Last 334 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: song in your iPhone or your car? Um, I would 335 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: say the last album I listened to was the last 336 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: latest NBA Young Boy. I think it was like Casey talked. Okay, yeah, 337 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: I'll take your word for it. One um, what person 338 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: in your life is most responsible for you being here 339 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: in the NFL UM I would say my father. He 340 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: he pushed me ever since I was eight years old, 341 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: even when I wanted to quit football, he didn't let me. 342 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: I've been a three sport athletes since all way up 343 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: until college, so I mean I definitely give a lot 344 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: of that credit to him. He's been my biggest support 345 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: system and makes every game still still as a pro. 346 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: So I'm happy that my dad did that. Funny, if 347 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: football hadn't been your best sport, what was your best sport? Um? Track? 348 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: It was track. I went to the nationals in discus 349 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: and the hurdles as well, so that a combination. You 350 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: don't see that off, Yeah, you don't see it often, 351 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 1: I know, I know. Shot yeah, usually disk and shot 352 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: shot click. Kind of got away from me because I 353 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: was a little, okay, smaller in high school. Okay, I 354 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 1: got this. This was all about technique. So I mean 355 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:15,439 Speaker 1: I had that downpack hundred ten hurdles or three thirties 356 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 1: had it was the four inns of hurdles AU nationals, 357 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 1: and then in high school I ran I had I 358 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: wouldn't make the regionals. You had the regionals and once 359 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: in hurdles because three thirty I mean the four hundreds 360 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: of serious staminas and serious athleticism, and you must have 361 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 1: been a lot lighter. Oh yeah, I was. That was 362 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: a lot like I was like, okay, I got you. Okay, 363 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: you love Jacksonville so much. Tell me your favorite go 364 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: to restaurant or say oh yeah, I know, well you 365 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: know we got you do want to smooth. I can't 366 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: thank you enough for doing this. I know Wednesdays are 367 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: a busy time and you're giving your time to this. 368 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, and you luck the rest of 369 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: the season and get luck specifically for you in the 370 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:57,959 Speaker 1: off season. Well, thank you and thank you for having me. 371 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: I say, every week Wednesday a tough to these guys. 372 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,479 Speaker 1: They're willing to give us ten or fifteen minutes and 373 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: give us some thought into it, which makes this much 374 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: more interesting than if they don't. So thanks to get 375 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 1: into one about that. And Dave, he's a fascinating guy. 376 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: As I said at the top, because as I mentioned 377 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: to him and we were talking, there were some opportunities. 378 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: I don't want to say give up, because most players 379 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 1: don't give up, but when you go through what he 380 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 1: went the first couple of years, and there's opportunities to 381 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: lose your way as a player, and he really had 382 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: to struggle through some. He got way too light he 383 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 1: touched on that wasn't on the field after eight games 384 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: of his second year. I assumed that he wasn't gonna 385 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: be here in his third year because usually the storyline goes, 386 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: you're inactive for a few games that year. By your 387 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,360 Speaker 1: third year, the GM doesn't have to keep you because 388 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 1: there's no more draft. You have to keep this guy 389 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,919 Speaker 1: a remarkable turnaround story to me. Yeah, kind of interesting 390 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 1: how he just kind of refocused on on his career 391 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 1: a little bit and how to prepare for an NFL season. 392 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: He's been uh in this year. I mean, like I 393 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: think you kind of when you introduced it. For him 394 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: not to appear really on the injury report at all 395 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: this season, especially playing playing defensive line, and how much 396 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 1: more he's playing now is it is a is a 397 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: big credit to him. And yeah, we uh trying to 398 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: think back probably last offseason, we shot, uh, we do 399 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: a cooking segment for one of our sponsors, and we 400 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 1: shot it with the one and he was great and 401 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,439 Speaker 1: he brought his own camera carew which was which was 402 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 1: kind of interesting. So there's two camera crews there because 403 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 1: he for his video stuff for his video blog that 404 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 1: he does. UM, but it was cool. He was super friendly, 405 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: really into it. Um you know, I uh, you know, 406 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 1: I always like the one. He's just the U. He 407 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,479 Speaker 1: always he has a good personality. He's also a big 408 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: question to ask her about, like what what we do? 409 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: So I appreciate that and it's interesting. He he's a 410 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 1: guy who clearly if you listen to him, if you've 411 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,199 Speaker 1: seen him. A lot of the fans who listen to 412 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 1: this have seen our interviews on Jaguars dot Com. They 413 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: followed closely, So if you've seen him, you know how 414 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: personable he is. He's one of these guys and it's 415 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: not two of every player that you're sure whatever he 416 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: does after football, he's going to figure out a way 417 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,880 Speaker 1: to be a success. He's got a future in the 418 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 1: media or electronics or something like communication because he clearly 419 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:34,479 Speaker 1: has an active mind. I mean, Dave, he's building phones. 420 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 1: I'm fortunate if I can get mine on, so he's 421 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 1: he's far ahead and that now I know when I 422 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:45,199 Speaker 1: can't get my phone working right, let's go down st 423 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: He'll build me one. You're still trying to figure out 424 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: how to how to whether you put your thumb with 425 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: the coat or face, and it doesn't always want unlock 426 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: the phone doesn't always be honest with you. I mean, 427 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: it's it's a bad scene at times, but it's it's 428 00:20:56,520 --> 00:21:01,199 Speaker 1: a he Uh. Building computers is one thing, building phones another. 429 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 1: I've been fascinated in the last couple of weeks what 430 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: kind of close with this, how much he wants to 431 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 1: be in Jacksonville, And I frankly don't know. There's no 432 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,880 Speaker 1: GM right now, so you don't know how that's gonna 433 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 1: play out in terms of how the general manager feels 434 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: about Smoot, how Smooth feels about what his role is 435 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: going to be, because you don't know what the new 436 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: general manager will think a player like Dwan's role will be. 437 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 1: I don't know that he's a fifteen sack of year guy, 438 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 1: but I don't know that he's a two sack of 439 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: year guy. He he's shown that he gets opportunities that 440 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 1: he will continue to rush the pastor he's going to 441 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:43,199 Speaker 1: get his numbers. You need guys on your team and 442 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: on your defensive line. It's it's an interesting position, is 443 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:49,120 Speaker 1: what I'm getting. At offensive line, you've got five starters, 444 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 1: and if you're not one of those five starters, you 445 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 1: are you know, low, low paid defensive line, you've got 446 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 1: guys who make intermediate salaries, and I think that's probably 447 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: what Dwan is. I don't think he's gonna be a 448 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: break the bank guy because the sack numbers aren't there. 449 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: But you need to pay a few defensive linemen, non 450 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: premier elite money, but you need to have depth there. 451 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: So he's gonna have a role like that somewhere in 452 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,199 Speaker 1: the NFL this year or next year. And it's not 453 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 1: out of their own possibility to be with the Jaguars. 454 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: He certainly wants to stay here. Uh money talks when 455 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 1: guys are deciding where they want to stay. I'll admit, 456 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: after doing the podcast every after getting to know him 457 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: a little bit the last few weeks, I'm hoping that 458 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: it works out that he stays. He's the kind of 459 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: guy who wants to be here that you want on 460 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: an NFL team, in a in an NFL city. That's right, 461 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 1: you know. That's one thing we're kind of talking about, 462 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 1: like what motivates people to want to live where they 463 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: where they live. I mean when he said, uh talked 464 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: about after having your first kid, where it's life changing, 465 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: I mean, thank you're a dad, Yeah, yeah, I mean 466 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: your kids much older than my kids. But yeah, it's 467 00:22:56,480 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 1: definitely life changing, like your priority suddenly shift the different things, 468 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 1: so you know, maybe that that plays into it. But yeah, 469 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 1: I would like to see him around here too. I mean, 470 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: he's a good player, good guy, and you know you 471 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 1: never can have too many good guys around around where 472 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 1: you work. Well, I think people who listen to this 473 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: day I've realized or maybe know a little bit more 474 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: about what makes Dwan Smooth a good guy. So in closing, 475 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: I want to thank Joe Fortunado for making me sound 476 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,919 Speaker 1: better than I am, and thank Dave for holding this 477 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 1: thing together each week. Particularly thank Dwan Snood and all 478 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: players who joined us during the week. It's not as 479 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: easy as it sounds to do that during the week 480 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: during the season. And I thank Dwan for, just like 481 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: most of the players this year, given us a lot 482 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,640 Speaker 1: of times, given us a lot of thought. Because of that, 483 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: doos own podcast didn't suck. We'll try again next week.