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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio Guys.

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Speaker 2: I'm in the closet with the Rachel Reccie right now.

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Speaker 2: We have really great girl chats and we're together. We're

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Speaker 2: giddy right now because we're in We're in the Bachelor Mansion,

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Speaker 2: like main closet, and it is just got so many

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Speaker 2: feelings for us. Like every single room in this house

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Speaker 2: brings back so many feelings. And I'm obsessed with nostalgia

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Speaker 2: and I'm obsessed with just like feeling.

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Speaker 3: Me and Ashley are Pisces. That's what it is.

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Speaker 4: I feel like when you think about the two Pisces

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Speaker 4: women and Bachelor Nation, and so of course we're walking

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Speaker 4: around upstairs going oh my god, and we showered in

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Speaker 4: this shower and like we are like tearing up about it. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it means so much to us.

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Speaker 2: Every little aspect of this house means so much. And

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Speaker 2: it's weird because we did not live in it very long. No,

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Speaker 2: but it's not at all like, oh, this is home,

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Speaker 2: this is one of my homes.

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Speaker 4: It's like I lived here and like I I every

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Speaker 4: time I come in, it's like you think it's gonna

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Speaker 4: be the last time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the fangirl in you though, like, and I feel

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Speaker 2: like because you're a Bachelor fan beforehand.

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Speaker 4: First, yeah, I wrote here with Trista and Ryan talking

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Speaker 4: about Bachelor fans. My mom watched their wedding live. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I know, right, And I had to tell them and

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Speaker 4: I'm like, I know you hate to hear this, but like,

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Speaker 4: my mom watched your wedding, Like I remember watching your wedding,

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Speaker 4: And so the Bachelor fan not only in me just

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Speaker 4: being back here, but Trista's here. Yeah, you're here, Like,

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Speaker 4: it's just we're having a great time.

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Speaker 2: But when I look at this house, I'm just like,

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Speaker 2: I can't believe that, like I accomplish that dream I

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Speaker 2: was on that show, I pulled up in a limo

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Speaker 2: to this house.

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Speaker 4: It's so crazy, Ash, you have a Bachelor baby.

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Speaker 3: Bachelor baby too, I know.

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Speaker 4: So not only did you pull it to this house,

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Speaker 4: you pulled it to the beach so great. And now

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Speaker 4: Dawson is downstairs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well we can keep talking about.

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Speaker 2: We're just gonna go down or we could ask you

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Speaker 2: so many questions about what happened on that beach with you.

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Speaker 3: Oh please.

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Speaker 2: When you left, it really made me feel like out

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Speaker 2: of all three of your experiences, you were I don't know,

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Speaker 2: you were the lead so I and you got so

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Speaker 2: far on Clayton's season. But did you like learn more

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Speaker 2: about yourself in Paradise than anywhere?

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Speaker 3: I don't know, you tell me obviously.

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Speaker 4: It's so crazy, and I feel like people always ask me,

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Speaker 4: They're like, what's your favorite season? And Paradise is the

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Speaker 4: one time I truly feel like I was myself. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: being the bachelorette, I feel like I had to fill

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Speaker 4: the role of being a bachelorette, and I had to

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Speaker 4: be next to Gabby, who's the most incredible woman I know.

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Speaker 4: And so Paradise is the first time I got to

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Speaker 4: be me. So really, leaving Paradise was so emotional for me.

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Speaker 4: I learned so much about myself on the beach, and yeah,

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Speaker 4: it was a really, really hard goodbye.

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Speaker 2: I think that you not only looked at your most

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Speaker 2: stunning in Paradise, you were just really glowing, but also

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Speaker 2: I thought you were most fun to watch in Paradise,

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Speaker 2: probably because you were just no holds bar Yeah.

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Speaker 4: No, I even watching back, I know that that's the

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Speaker 4: one time I really just let myself fully be me. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: and it was really great to watch back, and it

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Speaker 4: was really sad, and it was the most emotional goodbye

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Speaker 4: I feel like I've had because this is the first

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Speaker 4: time I've really said goodbye m hm, and so yeah,

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Speaker 4: it just it's been such a journey and I'm so

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Speaker 4: thankful for all my experiences, but Paradise, for sure was

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Speaker 4: just so amazing and I learned so much. Oh I

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Speaker 4: love that.

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Speaker 2: I'm so happy that you got that experience because Paradise

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Speaker 2: for me, like there's so many emotions, right, but like

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Speaker 2: you just left and it was so positive and such

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Speaker 2: a growing experience. But I do want to talk, you know,

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Speaker 2: juicy stuff, because you had like three love interests there.

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Speaker 2: You had Bryden first. Then was there anyone in between

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Speaker 2: the Tanner and Jordan of it all?

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Speaker 4: No, so it went Braiden Tanner and because Jordan kind

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Speaker 4: of came in and Tanner the night that me and

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Speaker 4: Braiden really broke up, which I mean they didn't really

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Speaker 4: get to see, but the night we did have that conversation, okay,

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Speaker 4: was the night Tanner happened and Jordan happened the next day.

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Speaker 3: Okay, wow, oh man, that happened faster than it felt.

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Speaker 4: Really just twenty four hours. Really yeah, okay, realistically.

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Speaker 2: So why was it that Joe Chin our good friends

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Speaker 2: are shared friend? She told me in the summer. I'm

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Speaker 2: not sure if it was. I thought it was after

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Speaker 2: Paradise rap. She was like she left with Braiden, Like

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Speaker 2: is there more there? Oh my god, there is more?

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, because she said to me something like

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Speaker 2: she left with Braiden, but they're like not together.

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Speaker 4: Now, there's not more Me and Braiden are not together. No,

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Speaker 4: but there was a moment post Paradise where there was

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Speaker 3: Okay, so you guys have made out post Paradise like

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Speaker 3: off camera?

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, but I did, And this is I

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Speaker 4: haven't told anyone this. I did write my number down

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Speaker 4: on a piece of paper, gave it to a producer

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Speaker 4: the night we were both at the airport, and I

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Speaker 4: was like, hey.

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Speaker 3: Cause you guys both love the same day.

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Speaker 4: We have the same day, Like maybe we can outside,

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Speaker 4: like maybe we'll just like be friends. Let's see. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: But nothing came of it. So he chatted, we chatted.

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Speaker 4: He's in a very like from what I hear, happy relationship.

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Speaker 4: Oh so happy for him?

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Speaker 3: Is it with a bachelor?

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Speaker 4: It is with a bachelor contestant.

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Speaker 3: My goodness, is her name Christina? It is? It is

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Speaker 3: Mendre Yes. So you and Branden not a thing.

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Speaker 2: But what Ben and I were so confused about was

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Speaker 2: what the heck happened the week that you left between

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Speaker 2: you and Tanner and you and Jordan, Because one, your

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Speaker 2: date with Jordan seemed super one romantic, two sexy chemistry.

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Speaker 2: It seemed all reigniting. And then you came home and

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Speaker 2: then you were like, oh wait, maybe I'm like down

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Speaker 2: for the Tanner thing because Tanner had told you I

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Speaker 2: see you as more a friend that that wasn't a

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Speaker 2: then he said that swoony thing where like he daydreams

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Speaker 2: not see Rachel. This has been actually a lot on

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Speaker 4: I know, it was so crazy because that night with

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Speaker 4: me and Tanner, when he gave me the rose. At first,

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Speaker 4: This was something I really wanted to happen. I was

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Speaker 4: So to me, I was like, oh, this is a

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Speaker 4: When he asked me on that date, I was like,

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Speaker 4: you know, of course, like this is us having our

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Speaker 4: first date for the first time. I was so excited,

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Speaker 4: and Jordan's first date for the second time. Yes, but

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Speaker 4: it really felt like our first first date, like we

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Speaker 4: really felt like we were meeting each other for the

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Speaker 4: first time again. So much has changed in a year.

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Speaker 4: And he asked me, he was like, what does it

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Speaker 4: I was like, you know, I got a rose from Tanner,

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Speaker 4: but I'm not sure that that's a relationship. And I

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Speaker 4: really want you to explore the beach and I really

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Speaker 4: want you to get this experience and I don't want

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Speaker 4: to take that away from you.

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Speaker 3: You must not have liked him enough.

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Speaker 4: Then. I just feel very guilty that I took the

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Speaker 4: bachelorette parents a way from Jordan. So I wanted him

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Speaker 4: to come down to the beach and if he chose me,

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Speaker 4: I wanted him to choose me because he wanted me,

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Speaker 4: and not because he felt like he needed to.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that makes so much sense now, because like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: could you imagine if he felt guilted into just being

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Speaker 2: I took that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, all makes sense. Yeah, but so like, what.

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Speaker 2: Did it look like for him when he continued when

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Speaker 2: he went down to the beach and he explored.

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Speaker 4: So we had a discussion that night before we went

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Speaker 4: down with the rest of the group. I said, I'm

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Speaker 4: I don't want to go down with you and have

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Speaker 4: could have a connection that you know, might not happen

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Speaker 4: So I feel like, of course I was interested in Tanner.

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Speaker 4: I wanted to also give that a chance, and I

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Speaker 4: the roast night. And I think that night was a

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Speaker 4: on that roast ceremony, me and Tanner did get into

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Speaker 4: a little fight the night before, I mean they kind

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Speaker 4: of saw that Gros just the rose and he wasn't

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Speaker 4: like that feeling that we both just like knew, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 4: and it was almost like we don't have to have

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Speaker 3: We wish we saw all this? It didn't it not

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Speaker 4: I you know, there's a lot of things this season

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Speaker 4: I wish people saw. There just isn't enough time, unfortunately.

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Speaker 4: But I mean, I really I remember looking at him

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Speaker 4: so I don't I feel like people saw kind of

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Speaker 4: He thought maybe something could go further with Jess, And

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Speaker 4: that's kind of just where the night was going at

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Speaker 2: Okay, so then when Jordan went to go talk to Mercedes,

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Speaker 2: like this was just like, yeah, we're like not together.

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Speaker 4: The second I think we sat down together and we talked,

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Speaker 4: I knew that it was my time to go. So

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Speaker 4: I didn't even see the talk with Mercedes because at

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Speaker 4: I was like, all right, well.

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Speaker 3: And it's nice to eliminate yourself.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't. I mean, I've never experienced anything like that.

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Speaker 4: That's never something I thought would happen to me. Because

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Speaker 4: every time I've come on the show, I found love

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Speaker 4: every single time. So of course I'm thinking, Parentise isn't

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Speaker 4: that moment, realizing that I'm going home alone, like basically

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Speaker 2: Really, Okay, this is like so this is very it's

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Speaker 2: healing the gaps and we love this. And I'm assuming that,

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Speaker 2: like because of what you said earlier, if you did

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Speaker 2: it would have been Braiden. So it's just like interesting

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Speaker 2: and you guys left the same night. It's like, what

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Speaker 2: if you would have continued to explore that a little

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Speaker 2: bit more because you had so much fun together. You

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like out of like Jordan was kind

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Speaker 4: of like this conclusion of my season and the what

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Speaker 4: if and it really was so full circle. But Brayden

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Speaker 4: I mean, we are such good friends, like we really are,

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Speaker 4: like I feel like in a great place, so I

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Speaker 4: that was kind of the one like what if moment

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Speaker 4: of paradise me and Brandon.

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Speaker 2: Before we let you go, I have to know if

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Speaker 2: can you give us a few moments that didn't make

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Speaker 2: air that you would have loved to have seen made air.

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Speaker 4: I think a big one that I've seen online is

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Speaker 4: a lot of people talking about the Jess and Tyler situation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we were all very confused, but we've recently had

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like that was something where all of

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Speaker 4: so seeing it happen, it was like, Okay, we were

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Speaker 4: a conclusion, which is like, really unfortunate. But I wish

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Speaker 4: that was the one moment that everyone could have seen aired,

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Speaker 4: that all the couples kind of talked about it, because

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Speaker 4: from what I'm aware, I guess Mercedes is the only

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Speaker 2: Yeah, then I wish that would have seemed like he

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Speaker 3: So we just have to ask now, because that was

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Speaker 2: The whole speculation in multiple episodes was that Tyler wasn't

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Speaker 3: Did everybody know this? This this is a common thing.

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Speaker 4: I think overall, Tyler is such a great guy, He's

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Speaker 4: such a lover and maybe this time when he went

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Speaker 4: that he just didn't want to seem like he was

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Speaker 4: head over heels for Mercedes. Yeah, so as an outsider

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Speaker 4: my season like that, it didn't seem like the same energy. Okay,

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Speaker 4: but to be fair, it could have been Tyler's just

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Speaker 4: not wanting to seem like he was head over heels

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Speaker 4: as he usually is.

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Speaker 2: See thank you for that, because I thought that from

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Speaker 2: the second he walked down the stairs, I was like,

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Speaker 3: I felt like there was a little bit more of

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Speaker 4: I love Tyler, I do. He's one of my greatest friends,

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Speaker 4: but I think it's there is something that comes with

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Speaker 4: like seeing yourself multiple times, yeah, and wanting to maybe

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Speaker 4: change something. Okay, and maybe that's something he wanted to change.

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Speaker 3: He definitely had more swag and less sweetness.

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Speaker 4: I felt a little bit more swag, yeah, a little.

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Speaker 3: Bit more of an edge. All right, Rachel, thank you

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Speaker 3: so much.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure that I'm gonna leave this interview and then

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Speaker 2: tonight in bed, I'm gonna think about all the things

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Speaker 2: that I forgot to ask you.

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Speaker 3: So you'll come back on and I know you will,

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Speaker 3: and I love you, and you know.

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Speaker 4: I will thank you.

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Speaker 3: Ash Bye.

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