1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,640 Speaker 1: Guess what, mengo. So that will So I read this 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: incredible story in a book called Shocked. In year old 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: woman goes skiing in Norway and she has this awful accent. Man, 4 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: this doesn't sound good and that's the end of the story. 5 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 1: So it gets better. So she rolls down this massive 6 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 1: slope into this frozen stream and she's under the ice. Well, 7 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: basically her skis saver from going fully in, but she 8 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: is under so when the ski patrol finds her, it 9 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: seems hopeless. She has no pulse, no signs of life. 10 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: She's insanely cold. Her body temperature is something like fifty 11 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 1: seven degrees. So at the hospital she's declared dead. But 12 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: for some reason, and it isn't clear why, but they 13 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: hook her up to a bypass machine which pumps her 14 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 1: heart and her lungs, and a few hours later her 15 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: heart flutters like it actually starts up again. Then in 16 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: just over a week she comes out of her coma 17 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 1: and eventually makes this startling recovery. I know, it's miraculous, right. 18 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: The press calls her Ice Woman, and while doctors and 19 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: scientists get really excited about her story, there's one group 20 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: that takes even more joy in her recovery. The cry 21 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:06,680 Speaker 1: and I love the crying. Yeah, that's the tiny subculture 22 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: of people who have been laughed at for decades, you know, 23 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: a group of people who believe that freezing your body 24 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 1: for a few hundred years is going to be the 25 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 1: key to living forever. And that's what we're exploring in 26 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 1: today's Part Time Genius. Hey there podcast and listen is 27 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 1: welcome to Part Time Genius. I'm Will Pearson and as 28 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: always I'm joined by my good friend Manguesh how Ticketer 29 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: hey Man. Today we're talking cryonics, this notion of freezing 30 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:45,839 Speaker 1: your body with the hope of thawing it out later 31 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: so you can extend your life. So we'll be diving 32 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: into the science of this bizarre field. We'll look into 33 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: how many people have actually signed up for already stored 34 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: in cryonics facilities around the world, and how movies usually 35 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: get it wrong. But as always, will have our Part 36 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: Time Genius quiz with two listeners. Who do we have 37 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: this week? Mango, We've got board game inventors, not only 38 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: board game inventors, but these are like big time, are awesome. 39 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: I'm decided to have them, so we'll talk to them 40 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: in a bid, and I can't wait to put another 41 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: guy to the test. One of our favorite funny people 42 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: SNL writer Streeter side L. That's right, who will test 43 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: with another frozen related quiz? Is that right? Uh? Huh okay, 44 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: good deal and lots of fun stuff to get too, 45 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: So let's dive in now. I've got to tell you, Mango, 46 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: this whole cryonics thing makes zero sense to me. I mean, 47 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 1: I can get behind it in fiction, but in the 48 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: real world, yeah, like it makes for a great TV 49 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: and movies Captain America or like a doctor Evil scheme, 50 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: But personally, I am so uninterested in putting my body 51 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: on ice. And just to be clear, cryonics and this 52 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: hope of living forever is separate from cryogenics, which is 53 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: the study of cold temperatures and their effects on materials. 54 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,239 Speaker 1: But let's get back to this obsession with living forever. 55 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,239 Speaker 1: I have no interest in being a hundred fifty years 56 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: old or however old the founders of Google and all 57 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 1: these super rich billionaires want to be. Doesn't it make 58 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:02,959 Speaker 1: more sense just to try to extend your life in 59 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: the present than try to freeze yourself for the future. 60 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: So well, first off, I didn't realize this until we 61 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: dug into the topic. But it's actually illegal to freeze 62 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: yourself alive. Like I always assume these rich people who 63 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: had cancer or whatever, we're freezing themselves before they passed away, 64 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: you know, so that they could be defrosted when a 65 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 1: cure comes around. But that's not the case. Everyone who's 66 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 1: frozen in a cryogenic facility is dead, like dead dead dead, 67 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: really dead, or to use the term they use in 68 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: the industry, deanimated. So all these dead people are actually 69 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: waiting to be reanimated like zombies, which feels like a 70 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: tall order. And in addition, they're hoping to be cured 71 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: of whatever disease killed them. I mean, that's so optimistic. Well, 72 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: I mean even the weirder part in my mind, as 73 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: you either get your whole body frozen or you could 74 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: go budget and just do your head. It's just a 75 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: really strange decision to have to make, which is what 76 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: Ted Williams did. The theory is that the head is 77 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: the only important part and the rest of your body 78 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: is completely replaceable. And while that sounds ludicrous, what's weird 79 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: is the science kind of backs this. I mean, the 80 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: truth is head transplants have a surprisingly long history. Back 81 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: in nineteen seventies, scientists at Case Western transplanted a rhesus 82 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: monkey's head onto another monkey's body. This was almost fifty 83 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: years ago, and while this Frankenstein monkey couldn't walk around 84 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: or move from the neck down, mainly because the scientists 85 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: didn't have the technology to connect the spinal cord to 86 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: the brain, they did manage to get the blood flow 87 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: between the neck and the head so it could smell 88 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: and see and even taste. Yeah, the head retained all 89 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 1: of those functions. The monkey only lived a few days. 90 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 1: But remember we're talking about nineteen seventy and all of that. 91 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 1: Science has improved dramatically since then. Like in Japan, they've 92 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: grafted the head of a mouse onto another healthy mouse's body, 93 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: which created this two head monstrosity, but also showed that 94 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: the body could accept the new head. And we know 95 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: scientists have severed the spinal cords of mice to make 96 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: them paralyzed, then repaired their spines, allowing them to walk again. 97 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: Which once you've mastered repairing a spine and grafting a 98 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 1: head on to its body, well, human head transplants don't 99 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 1: feel that far away. That's umbly right. You know what 100 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 1: else is funny that I never thought about and sort 101 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 1: of backs up your point is let's say you're into 102 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 1: cryonics and you go for the whole body options, the 103 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 1: facility will actually store you upside down in their tanks 104 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: of chemicals like you're hanging out bat style, because they 105 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 1: want to protect your head that way, if the facility 106 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: loses power and your body starts to get accidentally thought, 107 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: they want to make sure your noggin is the last 108 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 1: bit affected. I kind of like that there's this option 109 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: of the whole body versus just the head. I mean, 110 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: it really does seem like a super stressful if you're 111 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 1: going to invest in us. But your point about storing 112 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: those bodies. If you're watching a science fiction movie and 113 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: people are getting frozen stored upright, you can tell the 114 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 1: writers haven't done their research. Yeah, I mean in movies 115 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: and shows, people are always stored up right, and that's 116 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: completely bunk. But back to what you were saying about 117 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 1: head transplants, Like, the science of cryonics is actually amazing, 118 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 1: whatever you think about the realistic nous of thawing out 119 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: all these rich people two hundred years from now and 120 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 1: giving them a second shot at life, which, let me 121 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 1: be clear, I do not believe will happen. The actual 122 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 1: research that's come out is not only fascinating, but it's 123 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 1: really important. And before we get to that, I want 124 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 1: to finish this thought, and that's at the freezing part 125 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: of cryonics feels like an outdated idea to me. Sure 126 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: I see that. I mean, the whole notion came up 127 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,799 Speaker 1: around the time of refrigeration and innovation of frozen food, 128 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: so it feels like a rich person solution for the 129 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: forties or fifties, Like, if we can reheat a bag 130 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: of frozen feet, why can't we do that with humans? Yeah, 131 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 1: but today the question is why freeze yourself versus just 132 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 1: trying to extend your life. And this is a weird tangent, 133 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: but my great grandmother lived to be a hundred three. 134 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 1: She was born in one and that's two years before 135 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: the Right Brothers took flight. And what she lived through 136 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 1: is insane, like world wars and moon landing sliced bread. 137 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 1: She was older than slice impressive, and she lived all 138 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 1: the way through seven police academies and a couple of 139 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: rush hours even more impressive. Yeah, so you know, that's 140 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: a really full life. But she wanted to stay alive 141 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: for an extra year because I don't know the new 142 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 1: season of Sherlock was coming out, or something more important, 143 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: like her great granddaughter was getting married. Like I understand 144 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: this very human desire to want a one year extension 145 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: or two year extension or life for something you've been 146 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: waiting for. But the idea of dying, then freezing yourself, 147 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: then waiting two years in the hopes of a cure, 148 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: and then essentially hoping to be turned into a zombie 149 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: to live longer. I don't think you should be a 150 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: spokesperson for the crown of society, by the way, I won't. 151 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: And in addition to how creepy and unrealistic that all 152 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: feels to me, I honestly don't think I could psychologically 153 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: handle it. Like you know, um Japanese tourist struggle with 154 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: Paris syndrome, which is that psychological shock when a trip 155 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: to Paris doesn't live up to your romantic expectations. The 156 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: Japanese embassy actually runs the twenty four hour hotline to 157 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: help citizens deal with it. If you think about that's 158 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: the problem of like people from one modern culture visiting 159 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: another modern culture. So imagine a person from the eighteen 160 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: hundreds waking up today, Like, isn't all this change going 161 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,559 Speaker 1: to be too jarring? If you think about it. People 162 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: don't acknowledge each other as they walk in parks, and 163 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: they communicate through watches, and everyone eats tacos with shells 164 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: made of doritos, which just feels two locos to puffery heads. 165 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: I am sad that your grandmother never got to experience 166 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: the doritos locos taco. So a cryon not from two 167 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: hundred years ago would have died in eighteen seventeen. And 168 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: that's a lot of learning to have to do, catching 169 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: up with the technology, civil rights, women's rights, and so 170 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,679 Speaker 1: many other things. And I'm sure seeing all that change 171 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: has to be thrilling too. And I know you're not 172 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: pro cryonics, but if anyone's going to change your mind 173 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 1: about yourself, it's Ben Franklin, right. So he put a 174 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: twist on this. He said he didn't want to live forever, 175 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: but if he could be suspended in a drunken state 176 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 1: in a giant vat of Madeira, and if he got 177 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: to have a few friends come along with him for 178 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: a ride, he'd be excited to wake up a hundred 179 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 1: years later and see how the country is progressed. Well, 180 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: obviously I'm not gonna argue with Ben Franklin. I mean, 181 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: his idea of getting drunk is really good and bringing friends. 182 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: What do you proposed was basically a hot tub time 183 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: machine colonial edition, I'd see that. But for someone like Franklin, 184 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: he actually created a new country. So of course he's 185 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: going to be curious. And this is just on the side, 186 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: but can you imagine if he was frozen and then 187 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: emerged in two thousand seventeen, how pissed he'd be that 188 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: he doesn't have a pardon helmet like he was in 189 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: so many rooms where it happened, and he dropped zero 190 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: bars in the musical. So unfrozen, Ben's not going to 191 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: see Hamilton's that they sold out for another five years, 192 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: I think at least. But on the other side, I'm 193 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 1: sure he'd be thrilled by how our post office and 194 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: fire departments work, or that people still use his inventions. 195 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: What team been in, bifocals and swim flippers and that 196 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 1: whole grabber thing people use it their grabinator, Yeah, the 197 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: grab house. That one is called the grabinator, but that's 198 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: a different episode. So right now, let's get back on 199 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:56,319 Speaker 1: the frozen track with a quiz. Okay, mango, So who 200 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: do we have on the line today? So today we've 201 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: got two incredible board game in ventors online. We've got 202 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: Mary Joe Ruder from l A and Peggy Brown calling 203 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: in from Milwaukee. Welcome guys. And it turns out you 204 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: guys actually know each other because both of you were 205 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: the winners of the Toy Industries Game Inventor of the Year. Right, 206 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: so you guys are even friends. I think we are. 207 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: We are, yep, we've worked on projects together. It's funny 208 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:28,439 Speaker 1: in the business of game inventors were all competitor were like, um, 209 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 1: the Williams sisters were competitors. But we're also friends. We're 210 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 1: not we're not frend of these like that from from petitors. 211 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: That's a good one. That's a pretty small universe. Being 212 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: game inventors, I hear though, is not all easy. In fact, Peggy, 213 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: I was seeing that that you're suffering from something that 214 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: comes with being a game inventor. You mind telling us 215 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: about that. It's an old affliction that was named gamekeepers 216 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,839 Speaker 1: thumb because Scottish peasant hunters. I think it was used 217 00:10:57,840 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: to take their catch and strap it with a piece 218 00:10:59,920 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: of leather over um, wrapping around their thumb and then 219 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: slinging over their shoulder, and it would stretch out that 220 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 1: ligament and break that ligament between their sum and four fingers. 221 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: So that's how it got the name gamekeeper thumb. But um, 222 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: I've basically rebranded it from cutting out pumping pieces and 223 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 1: game proponents and cards and everything overall the year, the 224 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: sacrifices you've made for this, Wow, that's crazy occupational hazard. 225 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: Mary Joe, do you suffer from Gamekeeper's thumb? I don't, 226 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: and I'm not envious of that at all. I was 227 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 1: reading about you though, that you have a pretty strange 228 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: collection of is it ABC books from all of the world? 229 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: It is, Yeah, I collect ABC books. I'm a graphic 230 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: designer by original trade, and I've always loved Bonds. And 231 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: I was trying really hard to learn Danish and I 232 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: learned mostly that I'm not competent in foreign languages. But 233 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: as I was practicing, I picked up an Apple and 234 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: I'm in the kitchen. I'm like, hey, is for Apple? 235 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 1: Wait a minute, No, it's not. It's that crazy E 236 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: letters that I don't even know how to pronounce. It 237 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:05,719 Speaker 1: just became a fun thing to do when I went 238 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: to any country that I hadn't sent to you before 239 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: is to find the ABC book. What's the weirdest picture 240 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: that kicks off and off of that book? Yeah? I 241 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: think the weirdest one I have is from Thailand, which 242 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: has a lot of I'm sure not not authorized pictures 243 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: of different people like Snoppy instead of Snoopy happy, and 244 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 1: then I'm I love the opponents. All right, Well, let's 245 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: get started with our game today, Mango, what are we 246 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: playing today? We're playing a game called the Ice Have 247 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: It where every answer includes the word ice. So if 248 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 1: we said this is the product Ben and Jerry decided 249 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: to make instead of bagels, you'd say done. All right, Now, 250 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: remember you're playing for a big prize here. Whoever wins, 251 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,559 Speaker 1: we'll get a handwritten note from us to your mom 252 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: or your boss or somebody else important in your life 253 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: to sing your praises. So there's a lot at steak here. 254 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: So Mary, Joe, you were the more prompt on the 255 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 1: dial ends, so you get to go first. We're gonna 256 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 1: put thirty seconds on the clock and we're gonna see 257 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 1: how many you can answer We've got six questions for you. 258 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: Let's see if we can get through all all six 259 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: of them. You ready, remember, I'll give you. I'll give 260 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 1: you a clue and you have to tell me the answer. 261 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: All right, let's go. Val Kilmer's nickname and top gun 262 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 1: ice Man got it. One half of an Arnold, one 263 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: half of an Arnold. Palmer iced tea phrase meaning on 264 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: shaky ground. Rapper Robert Van Winkle's hit song from Yes 265 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy seven fourigner hit and we are over time. 266 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: We'll see if she can answer this one. I see freezy, 267 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 1: goodness happy. It's probably a little bit hard when the 268 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: other contestants going, I know this one. I know this one. 269 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:13,319 Speaker 1: I can't help it. I have a confession to make. 270 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: I wrote five thousand of these clues for a game 271 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: called Buzzword. So how many did you get? How many 272 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: did you get? Right? Mary Joe went four for six. 273 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna put thirty seconds on the clock again. 274 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: Are you ready? Peggy? Ready? Help between each one? Mary Joe, 275 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: you may make sure you say I know it. Okay, 276 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: That's That's how I'm going to help al Right, Here 277 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: we go. The star of the movie Friday movie Friday. 278 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: I don't know it all right, solid form of carbon 279 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: dioxide ice, the name for the nineteen U. S. Hockey 280 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: game against the USSR. I do know that one. I 281 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: don't know, like glory on ice or something like. You 282 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: got it. We're gonna give that to you. Same work. 283 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: Dry ice was the other one. Now, A cheap beer 284 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: we drank a lot of in college, made by Miller Brewing. 285 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: Tell Us Well Done One More two thousand two animated 286 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: movies starring a saber tooth squirrel named Scrat. Well Done. 287 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: Let's do this last one together? A reality TV show 288 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: on the History Channel involving drivers who operate giant vehicles 289 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: across frozen rivers and lakes and remote Arctic territories. Wow, 290 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: who was that was? That? Was that Peggy? All right? 291 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: So we'll give Peggy five for six and Mary Joe 292 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: four for six. That's right. So, Peggy, you're gonna get 293 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: a letter to your mom or a friend or a 294 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: boss in the mail shortly. And because we don't want 295 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: anyone's mailbox to feel lonely, Mary Joe, you can wipe 296 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: that sour expression off your face and replace it with 297 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: a different sour expression. Because We're going to send you 298 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: a package of Bob's Frozen Pickles, the only frozen pickle 299 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: pops on the market, so such a great price. We're 300 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: all winners here today. Thank you guys, so much. Good 301 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: luck to both of you. Um and you can't wait 302 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: to see your next inventions. So one of the strangest 303 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: parts about cryonics is that it occurs in nature all 304 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: the time. Yeah, that's right. There are a few animals 305 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: that can freeze and survive. Ice worms do it, painted turtles, 306 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: certain scorpions, but the American wood frog is kind of 307 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: the all star and that's the one that gets talked about. 308 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: Unlike other animals that hibernate by slowing their metabolism down, 309 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: the wood frog actually freezes to a halt. It'll stop breathing, 310 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: it's heart stops. Like you could actually pick one up 311 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: and break off a little legsicle, alexicle, I know it's frozen, 312 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: and in places like Alaska, it'll stay in the state 313 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: for seven months. Then they'll just wake up and hop 314 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: off like no big deal. So scientists were trying to 315 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: figure out the trick because freezing is really hard. Cells 316 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: human cells contain water almost and when the water solidifies 317 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:08,199 Speaker 1: into ice. It presses down and squeezes the cells and 318 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: causes the cellular death for various reasons. You can poke 319 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 1: holes or harm the membrane or whatever, and we just 320 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: aren't made for freezing. But the American wood frog is 321 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: totally different. It basically pumps itself full of glucose and 322 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 1: creates its own anti freeze well, which is essentially how 323 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 1: croyonots are stored. Right after they pass away, their bodies 324 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: are cooled and they're put on the machine to keep 325 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: circulating their blood until it can be replaced with an 326 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: anti freeze, and then the bodies are packed in sleeping 327 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: bags with ice and store and chambers and incredibly low temperatures. 328 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: So different facilities have very different processes. But what I'm 329 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: kind of fascinated by is that, like the wood frog, 330 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,719 Speaker 1: there's been at least one instance of reported human hibernation. 331 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 1: So in the book shop, David Casserett tells this great 332 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: story about this thirty five year old Japanese man who 333 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 1: went to this company picnic and a mountainous area and 334 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 1: he gets a little tipsy at the picnic, decides to 335 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 1: walk home, and so you can imagine what happens next 336 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: he slips and breaks his pelvis, and this is where 337 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: the story gets really strange. He's there for twenty four 338 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 1: days before some hikers find him, just exposed to the 339 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 1: elements without food or water, and his temperature has dropped 340 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: to seventy one degrees, but his heart was still beating 341 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: slowly and he was breathing, and like the story we 342 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 1: told at the beginning, he made a full recovery. Now 343 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: there's some speculation about what actually happened during those twenty 344 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 1: four days, and no one really knows, but it brings 345 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: up this idea of what could happen if you put 346 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: an injury victim in a suspended state by lowering their 347 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 1: body temperature. Right, And though it sounds so incredibly far fetched, 348 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 1: the benefits like being able to cool a gunshot victim 349 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: to keep their body in stasis until they can get 350 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: worked on. That could change the way we do medicine, 351 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: like it could help soldiers in the battlefield, or give 352 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: a surgeon more time to conduct a heart transplant. I 353 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: know you were telling me this too, but about that 354 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: study on dogs that showed if the animals were cool 355 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,439 Speaker 1: to a body temperatures seventy seven degrees, that they can 356 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 1: actually survive circulatory arrest for fifteen minutes and still be revived, 357 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 1: Like previously the most animal could survive without a heartbeat 358 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 1: was three minutes. Yeah, that could make a huge, huge 359 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 1: difference in the survival right. So, but also they're all 360 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: these practical applications that have come out of chronics and 361 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 1: getting a better understanding of how to freeze and revive 362 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:22,360 Speaker 1: cells without freezer burn or cellular damage we were talking 363 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 1: about earlier, Like, scientists have been able to freeze a 364 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 1: rabbit's kidney than thought and implanted into a rabbit successfully, 365 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 1: and that technology in itself would be a huge boon 366 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 1: to humans. I read a figure that twelve people die 367 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: every day waiting for a kidney transplant, and in two 368 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: thousand fourteen, even though there were seventeen thousand kidney transplants 369 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: in the US, there were five times as many people 370 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: on the waiting list. But the major reason isn't that 371 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: we don't have enough kidneys. It's that kidneys can only 372 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: be kept alive for thirty hours outside a body to 373 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: still be viable. And this totally upends that. Yeah, like 374 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: supposedly half of the donated hearts and lungs are thrown 375 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: out each year because they don't make it the patients 376 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 1: in time, so that could all change. But all these 377 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 1: things like eggs and sperm and even kidneys are all 378 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 1: relatively simple cell structures to keep on ice, and while 379 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,719 Speaker 1: we know human bodies are way more complicated, it's not 380 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:15,679 Speaker 1: entirely convincing that cryonics institutes have the answers yet, at 381 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: least so. Our guest today is an incredibly funny guy. 382 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: Got his start in the comedy world as the front 383 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 1: page editor of College Humor, where he went on to 384 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: become one of the stars of their online skits. Now 385 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,199 Speaker 1: Mango and I were lucky enough to get to know 386 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,679 Speaker 1: him as a huge history buff, which is part of 387 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 1: why we wanted to have him on today. But in 388 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: recent years he spent most of his time as a 389 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: writer for Saturday Night Live, writing some of the most 390 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: popular sketches of the past couple of years. So Street 391 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 1: your side all, welcome to part time genius. Thanks for 392 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: having Yeah, it's good to have you. Actually, I was 393 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: curious to uh to hear how you ended up on SNL. 394 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: You know, we hear about the stressful auditions that aspiring 395 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: cat members have to go through to get on the show. 396 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:06,360 Speaker 1: But how does it work for writers? Well, it's certainly 397 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 1: not as um terrifying, I guess as the cast. You 398 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 1: don't have to like stand there and read your sketches 399 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: you've written in front of a quiet room with just 400 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 1: your bosses. But the way it's done is like a packets. 401 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: You write a packet, which is, you know, maybe five sketches, 402 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:27,479 Speaker 1: and then you send it in and normally you just 403 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:31,400 Speaker 1: that's the last you hear of it. Um. But every 404 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 1: now and then, if you're lucky, like I was, you 405 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: get a response that says, hey, kind of un meet 406 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 1: some people. And then I got called back to talk 407 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: um with Lauren, which was terrifying. Well, I wanted to 408 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: hear a bit about that, like, you know, when you're 409 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,719 Speaker 1: actually there in the hallways, like, how has it been different, 410 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 1: like from your expectations going in. I mean, it's it 411 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: really is as cool as I thought it would my 412 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: whole life. I've been such a fan of the show, 413 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 1: and I've had friends work there and stuff. So I'd 414 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 1: gone to the show a couple of times and kind 415 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,239 Speaker 1: of gotten a glimpse of it and just felt like, 416 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: oh my god, this is so great. I wish I 417 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 1: was a part of it. Um and it really I mean, 418 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:22,360 Speaker 1: the office is like I think they're redoing it soon, 419 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: but like as of this recording, it's pretty like Dingy 420 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 1: and Beata up and I like it, like I feel 421 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 1: like you like feel the history in the place, just 422 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 1: the amount of hours and chain that people have put 423 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 1: into the necessilly thing. I know, it's got to have 424 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 1: been a weird year obviously, with huge ratings, you know, 425 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 1: some of the highest ratings and years for sn L. 426 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 1: Much of that I'm sure can be attributed to the 427 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: Donald Trump bump, I think, and and the popularity of 428 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:58,439 Speaker 1: all the hysterical sketches that are there. But it's been 429 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: fun to see you breaking through with a few sketches 430 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: that have absolutely nothing to do with what's going on 431 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 1: in politics. Unless there was some sort of hidden message 432 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 1: in the David S. Pumpkins sketch, which I uh, I don't. 433 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 1: I don't think there was. Someone was like, don't you 434 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: get it everyone, it's a it's a metaphor for Trump, 435 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 1: the big orange guy who scares everyone, who everyone thinks 436 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 1: it's a joke, and then he scares people like, oh boy, 437 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,880 Speaker 1: you've given You're getting us too much credit. Okay, well, 438 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 1: we can't let you go without putting you to the test. 439 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: We today's episode is about cryonics, so we thought we'd 440 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,679 Speaker 1: do a little true or false game about things that 441 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: are frozen. Now, if you've seen the movie Frozen, that 442 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: won't help, so that that wouldn't matter. So good. I 443 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 1: just read a book about Claren's Bird's Eye, so I 444 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 1: know a little bit about Frozen. Yeah, just the fact 445 00:23:55,119 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: that there was actually a dude named Bird's Eye, right, Yeah, yeah, Okay, 446 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 1: So here we go. We got four questions for you. 447 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: Let's see how you do, and they're all true. Fault 448 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:11,439 Speaker 1: you ready, Okay, I'm ready. Question one. A frozen pizza 449 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 1: brand in Norway is so popular that when it released 450 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: a jingle in two thousand seven, it raced up the 451 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 1: charts to number one and was played in nightclubs and 452 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 1: discoes for weeks through or faults. Yeah, I mean, I 453 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: guess I'll go true. Yeah, right, story is too fun 454 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 1: for it not to be. I know. The gradiosa pizza brand, 455 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: is beloved in the country and multiple jingles have actually 456 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,719 Speaker 1: hit number one. As a New Yorker, I just can't 457 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 1: I can't imagine a frozen Norwegian pizza brand, being like, 458 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: thinking of that, amazing, but alright. Second question, an anti 459 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: freeze gene from the Arctic flounder has been inserted into 460 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 1: strawberries to make them more resistant to cold weather through 461 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 1: or faults. I guess I'll go fault. Oh, this one's 462 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: actually true. It's true. Even though they're rumors that the 463 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: strawberries taste fishy on the internet, that's actually not true. 464 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: They just taste like strawberries. That's good. That's good. The 465 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: strawberries taste like strawberries. So all right, he's one out 466 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: of two. Question number three. While the first Frozen TV 467 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: dinner was a Swanson's Thanksgiving feast made with leftover turkey 468 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: and cranberry sauce, a few people know their second attempt 469 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: goulash with green beans. True or faults? Oh, man, I 470 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: think that might be true. That's actually false. I wanted 471 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: to be true. I want it to be true, but 472 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: it's actually false. There was a part of the Bird's 473 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 1: Eye book that had we talked about what Swanson like 474 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: their old meals that used to do, and there were 475 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 1: definitely some weird ones in there. Yeah the chapter. Yeah, 476 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,679 Speaker 1: I almost feel like he knew the quiz we were 477 00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: going to ask you was like, I better read up 478 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,959 Speaker 1: about frozen and dinners. I'm going to read Mr Birds 479 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,199 Speaker 1: like a better Yeah. I wish that was true that 480 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:12,239 Speaker 1: I was like, alright, man, go through in this last one. 481 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 1: This is some hardcore history stuff here, so we'll see. 482 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: So in seventeen French cavalry charged across the Frozen Bay 483 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 1: at den Helder to capture fourteen Dutch ships. It's the 484 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: only time a naval fleet has been defeated by a cavalry. 485 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:33,199 Speaker 1: True or false. I mean, I have no idea, but 486 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna get I guess I'm gonna say true. Yeah, 487 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: you know it's crazy. The Battle of Texel was part 488 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,199 Speaker 1: of the War of the First Coalition between France and 489 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 1: the Dutch, one of the big wars. Yeah yeah, find 490 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: a book on that. So alright, well, thanks so much, 491 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,400 Speaker 1: street Or. You score two out of four, which means 492 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 1: you've won our endless admiration. Now you guys can find 493 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: street Or on tour this summer watches gets on SNL 494 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: or find him online at street side l dot com 495 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 1: whenever you get a chance. Thanks so much, Streeter, thanks 496 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:24,439 Speaker 1: for having me let's get back to freezing yourself for 497 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: the future and whether it's worth putting stock into. So 498 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 1: what do you think, mango, Is it really that crazy 499 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 1: of an idea. So one person that changed my mind 500 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: and how is framing this is Marvin Minsky, you know, 501 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: the m I T scientists who helped develop artificial intelligence. 502 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 1: Marvin Minsky, of course, the minsker. I was reading this 503 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 1: two thousand ten New Yorker story by Jillapoor and when 504 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: she realizes that Minsky intends to freeze himself, she writes 505 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 1: and ask him why, and he sends back these two 506 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 1: logic charts, and one is about God, right, and it 507 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 1: shows I'm kind of paraphrasing here, but if you spend 508 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: your life praying and going to church and it turns 509 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 1: out there is no God, that's not this big loss. 510 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 1: So you wasted a little time praying. But on the 511 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: other hand, if there does happen to be a God, 512 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: major upside, Yeah, you get to live forever. It's this 513 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: minimal investment with a pretty big potential return. Yeah. That 514 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: basically is Pascal's wager. You know Pascal the famous mathematician 515 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,880 Speaker 1: and philosopher, and his argument was essentially that if you're 516 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 1: a moral person, there's very little downside to believing in God. 517 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: It's like a low cost insurance policy with a pretty 518 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: big payoff, exactly, and and so that's a pretty common belief. 519 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: But in addition to that chart, Minsky attached a second 520 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,199 Speaker 1: chart with cryonics on it, and it basically said the 521 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 1: same thing, like, if you invest in cryonics and it 522 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: doesn't pan out, no big loss. But if it works, 523 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: you get to live forever. And basically he viewed a 524 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 1: belief in cryonics to be as rational or as irrational 525 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: as believing in God. And for him, it was kind 526 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: of a fun side bet, like wouldn't it be delightful 527 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 1: if this work? All right, I can see that. So 528 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 1: let's say someone buys in. How does this work? Then? 529 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I know in the first iterations, people stuck 530 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: their relatives with the so the families and future generations 531 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 1: of the first cryon outs were forced to keep paying 532 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: these monthly installments to keep the freezer on. How terrible. 533 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: I mean, it feels like the world's biggest guilt trip. 534 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 1: And the family didn't make the payments, or if they 535 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: didn't make the payments. This actually happened to quite a 536 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: few people they're frozen. Relative was kicked out of the 537 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 1: facilities and just thought and buried. You know, it's so depressing, 538 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,239 Speaker 1: But the plants have evolved a little since then. So 539 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: first off, there's a scheme where people use their life 540 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 1: insurance policies to pay for the freezing, and the big 541 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: companies have all figured this out for you. And now, 542 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,959 Speaker 1: of course they're all these competing cryonics companies all over 543 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: the world, like Russia has Creo Russ for instance, and 544 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: in the US there's the Cryonics Institut in Michigan, which 545 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: was founded by Robert Ettinger, the godfather of cryonics. That's 546 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: kind of the budget option. Actually you pay around thirty 547 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: thousand dollars to get stored there, which is certainly more affordable. 548 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: Or you could pay two thousand in a place like 549 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: al Core, which is the shiny rival and where Minsky 550 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: actually sent his body and Ted Wlliams too. So can 551 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 1: we talk for just a second about how odd it 552 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 1: is that there's so much controversy surrounding the two most 553 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: famous people who were supposedly frozen. Whenever you hear someone 554 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 1: talk about chronics, they bring up Walt Disney. He was 555 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 1: not buried, he was cremated. The origin of that myth 556 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: is crazy too. Basically, the president of the Chronic Society 557 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 1: in California came out with a statement after Walt Disney 558 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: passed away that it was a real shame that Disney 559 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: was cremated instead of being frozen, because Disney had been 560 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 1: interested in the idea, and had he been frozen, it 561 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: would have been great for the science of cryonics. But instead, 562 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 1: people just heard what they wanted and ran with the rumor. 563 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 1: Like the myth became so popular that Disney's grandkids heard 564 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 1: it at school and they believed it, and his daughter, 565 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 1: you know, their mom was so outraged he released his 566 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 1: press release to confirm Disney's cremation. And then there's Ted Williams, 567 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: whose head resides at al Core and he might not 568 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: even have wanted it to be frozen. That's kind of 569 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: a bummer, you know, It's like your head is just 570 00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: sitting somewhere and you didn't really want that to be 571 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: the case. But it apparently in his will he asked 572 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: to be cremated, and his daughter showed the will as proof. 573 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 1: And then William's son came with a scrap of paper 574 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: from a trunk that was signed with him as witness 575 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 1: that said Williams actually made a last minute decision that 576 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: he wanted to be preserved suspect and alcre and ted 577 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: Son moved faster than the daughter did. But the whole 578 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: thing is shrouded in controversy, and he's probably the most 579 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 1: famous frozen person or frozen head right right. Well, the 580 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 1: family aspect, in legal aspects can be messy, for sure, 581 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 1: and today lots of people who want to be preserved 582 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 1: will wear these thumb drives around their necks with precise 583 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 1: instructions on how to take care of their dead bodies. 584 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: But the most interesting thing to me is that there 585 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: are actually new facilities being built, Like this is a 586 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: place called Time Ship in Comfort, Texas, which is intended 587 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 1: to hold fifty bodies, and the thought and planning that's 588 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 1: gone into this is remarkable. Like New Scientists did a 589 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 1: cover story on it, and the whole idea was to 590 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: create a facility that works with minimal human interaction. So 591 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: the architects started scouting and laying out ends way back 592 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 1: in and they actually looked at it from this international perspective. 593 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 1: They were looking for a place that they had thought 594 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 1: would be still politically stable, like a hundred years from now, 595 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 1: looked at Australia and Russia in a few places, and 596 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: they ended up in Texas. And then they looked for 597 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: places that wouldn't be affected by climate change, so they 598 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 1: picked a precise place and and where there weren't going 599 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: to be natural disasters or nuclear threats. And then they 600 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 1: looked for ways that this facility could run without power 601 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: from its main source for a number of months. I 602 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 1: know the facility actually has wind turbines on it. I mean, 603 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 1: it's so thoughtful. And beyond that, they've actually made space 604 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: to store other genetic information there, like stem cells and 605 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 1: embryos and DNA starter kits. Plus it's got a butterfly farm. Yeah. Sure, 606 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 1: So pretty architecture and butterflies I would imagine would get 607 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: people to sign on the dotted line. They're nice perks, 608 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 1: but fifty thousand clients feels ambitious, especially when you consider 609 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: the actual numbers. Like I remember in that New Yorker 610 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 1: piece that Eddinger, the father of cryonics, had a really 611 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 1: tough time getting any clients at first. The first person 612 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 1: he froze his mom, his first and second wife for 613 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 1: both clients, but he was so irritated that his dad 614 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: and uncle wouldn't buy in, And it sounded like there 615 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: were only thirty or forty bodies in this facility. I know, 616 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: and jeez, if the only people who wake up with 617 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: you after two years, or your mom and your two wives, 618 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: it really feels like this missed opportunity. That you didn't 619 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 1: freeze a therapist as well, I'd say, But the numbers 620 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 1: of actually frozen people seem pretty small. From a two 621 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 1: thousand thirteen piece, it sounded like Alcor had a hundred 622 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 1: and fifty people or so on. Nice and about a 623 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 1: thousand people signed up. And you can freeze your pets 624 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: as well, so you can have your dog or your 625 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 1: ferret saved for later. But again, part of the hard 626 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 1: part might be that the science of life extension is 627 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: catching up with cryonics. I'd really be curious to know 628 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 1: how much it costs to to freeze a pet hamster. 629 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 1: There's this fairly new treatment that's been conducted on mice 630 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 1: where scientists have figured out how to flush the aged 631 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: and stress cells out of their systems using this thing 632 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 1: that started out as an anti cancer a drug. It's 633 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: called a P two seven, but the treatment is miraculous 634 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 1: scientists have realized that in flushing out the old cells, 635 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 1: not only do the mice have increased stamina and oregon function, 636 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 1: but these balding, patchy looking mice re grow their hair too. 637 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,919 Speaker 1: It's crazy. The creatures live thirty five percent longer. That's 638 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 1: not just more life, but good quality life, which gets 639 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: into so many ethical questions. Right, there's a whole who 640 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: gets to live longer aspect, and what happens when we're 641 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:30,919 Speaker 1: all competing for limited resources? Those are huge questions. Even Inger, 642 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 1: who was pretty pollyanna about all of this, acknowledged that 643 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 1: there would be problems, and his solution was that maybe 644 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,760 Speaker 1: humans could live and shift where one group would enjoy 645 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 1: Earth for a few years and hibern aid, and then 646 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 1: another group would on though and takeover with I know. 647 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: I mean, we as a species can't even share resources 648 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 1: like water and food, and the idea that we beat 649 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 1: Kumbaya enough to like tag in and tag out of 650 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 1: a freezer seems so unlikely. I'd say, of everything we've 651 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,839 Speaker 1: discussed in this episode, getting people to take turns might 652 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,320 Speaker 1: actually be the biggest stretch. But speaking of taking turns, 653 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 1: if you're in my favorite part of the show, the 654 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:12,959 Speaker 1: part Time Genius fact. That's the part of the show 655 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 1: where we sneak in all the weird and funny trivia 656 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 1: we couldn't cover. But before we get to that, you know, 657 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,439 Speaker 1: one thing we haven't done is hand out a part 658 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 1: time Genius Award. Who do you think the prize should 659 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,800 Speaker 1: go to today? I know, in an episode on cryonics, 660 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 1: we should probably give this to the person who discovered 661 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,720 Speaker 1: dry ice, or the scientists who are grafting the heads 662 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 1: of one thing onto another thing. But honestly, all this 663 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 1: talk of ice made me crave something cold, so I 664 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 1: want to give it to Frank Epperson. Yeah, he's the 665 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 1: guy who had eleven years old, left a cup of 666 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 1: flavored water with a stick in it out on his 667 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 1: porch overnight and accidentally invented the pops. That's right, Okay, 668 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 1: I'm down for that. Mr Epperson. Your family will be 669 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 1: hearing from us, which sounds like a threat but is 670 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 1: in fact a very great honor. But back to the fact. Off, 671 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 1: I'm going to kick this off with a little fact 672 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 1: about worm memories. Well, first off, the headline and the 673 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,920 Speaker 1: story got me excited because I was like, worms have memories. 674 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 1: It wasn't exactly that, but apparently one of the biggest 675 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: concerns people have about being frozen and then reanimated is 676 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 1: whether humans will keep their memories as they get warmed up, Like, 677 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 1: is Robert Avinger really going to remember his two wives 678 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 1: and his mom once he gets saw It's a lot 679 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 1: of birthdays and anniversaries and all that to keep straight. 680 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 1: And the answer that came from this worm study is 681 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 1: probably scientists in Arizona took ice worms, trained them to 682 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 1: react to new sense, and then froze them, and then 683 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,399 Speaker 1: when they thought them, the worms retained their training, which 684 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 1: is pretty encouraged. I love that you can train worms. 685 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,799 Speaker 1: So I was researching how wealthy cryonots deal with wills, right, 686 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 1: and I stumbled into this amazing story of Daisy Singer Alexander, 687 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 1: the heir to the Singer Sewing Machine fortune. Like, she's 688 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 1: so rich and so nutty that one of her like 689 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,799 Speaker 1: big hobbies with dropping bottles with messages in them into 690 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,760 Speaker 1: bodies of water. I know, And so, uh, that's actually 691 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 1: how she dealt with her will. And in she penned 692 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 1: a note that said, quote, to avoid all confusion, I 693 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,840 Speaker 1: leave my entire fortune to the lucky person who finds 694 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 1: this bottle noy I know. And then in this dishwasher 695 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,720 Speaker 1: named Jack Rum was on a walk when he found 696 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 1: the bottle, and the executors honored it like Rum received 697 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 1: this eight million dollar inheritance million dollars and all because 698 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 1: he loved lung walks on the beach. Oh my god, 699 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 1: that's really tough to be. All right, Well, here's a 700 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,839 Speaker 1: little fact about Tchaikovsky that I love. All this talk 701 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,799 Speaker 1: of decapitated heads being stored in freezers for hundreds of 702 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 1: years made me remember that Chaikovsky had a whole bunch 703 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,719 Speaker 1: of irrational fears, and one of them was that his 704 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,839 Speaker 1: head might roll off at name the moment. So often 705 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 1: when he was conducting an orchestra, he conduct with a 706 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 1: baton in one hand and keep his arm wrapped around 707 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,719 Speaker 1: the top of his head so the other hand could 708 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:51,400 Speaker 1: hold his head in place. That's crazy. So this one's 709 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 1: this one's creepy. Henry Ford's hero was Thomas Edison, and 710 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,280 Speaker 1: that's not the creepy part. Ford had some strange beliefs, 711 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,480 Speaker 1: including that your last breath of air contained your spirit. 712 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 1: So when Edison was dying, Ford actually convinced Edison's son 713 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 1: to capture his death breath in a test two friend, 714 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 1: just in case he could use it to reanimate Thomas 715 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 1: Edison in the future. You can actually see it in 716 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 1: the Ford Museum. Okay, yeah, so that's that's that's pretty weird, 717 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 1: but I've got a good one, all right. So the 718 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,440 Speaker 1: day after comedian Jack Benny passed away, his wife had 719 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 1: a single stem rose delivered to her, then the next 720 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,320 Speaker 1: day another and she thought it was in poor taste. 721 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,479 Speaker 1: I mean, who was sending a recent widow flowers every day? 722 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:32,879 Speaker 1: So she called up the florist, who told her Benny 723 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 1: had it written into his will that a perfect single 724 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 1: rose should be sent to her every day for the 725 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,719 Speaker 1: rest of her life. Pretty sweet, right, Yeah, that's really romantic. 726 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:46,399 Speaker 1: I mean unless daisies for her favorite. So I thought 727 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 1: I had you with that singer sewing machine story. But 728 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,720 Speaker 1: in the end, I think love always wins. I agree. 729 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 1: That's it for today's show. I'm Ango and I'm Will 730 00:38:54,080 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 1: and thanks for listening to Part Time James h. Thanks 731 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 1: again for listening to Part Time Genius. Be sure to 732 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 1: subscribe wherever you listen to your podcast. And because we're 733 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 1: a brand new show, if you're feeling extra generous. We'd 734 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 1: love it if you'd give us a rating on Apple Podcast. 735 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,840 Speaker 1: Part Time Genius is produced by some of our favorite geniuses. 736 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,759 Speaker 1: It's edited by Tristan McNeil, theme song and audio mixing 737 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 1: by Noel Brown. 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