WEBVTT - Ep. 45 Ft Aviane Vargas 0:00:01.200 --> 0:00:04.520 Lip Service. What up? It is lift Service, I mean Delay. 0:00:05.040 --> 0:00:08.559 I'm Stephanie Santiago, I'm g G McGuire and it's saving 0:00:08.960 --> 0:00:11.840 Hey girl, listen, we thought this is only appropriate now 0:00:11.880 --> 0:00:13.280 Every week we come up here to the engine room 0:00:13.320 --> 0:00:15.880 audio to do lip Service, and every week we sit 0:00:15.920 --> 0:00:17.599 down and chit chat with Avian and we have some 0:00:17.640 --> 0:00:20.400 great girl talk. So she's here with us today on 0:00:20.480 --> 0:00:21.840 lip Service and we're gonna stet with the tip of 0:00:21.880 --> 0:00:23.959 the day, Avian. What are you doing here? Just so 0:00:24.079 --> 0:00:27.560 people know, well, Um, I do a lot, man, you know, 0:00:27.640 --> 0:00:30.880 just managing the spot, helping Scotty, dealing with bookings, you know, 0:00:30.960 --> 0:00:33.400 making sure that engineers are on point with the sessions, 0:00:33.560 --> 0:00:37.920 just every kind of studio. Yeah. Yeah, it's a lot, 0:00:38.000 --> 0:00:39.960 but it's it's great. You know, everything that we do 0:00:40.040 --> 0:00:42.680 here on the podcast lip Service is great every week 0:00:42.840 --> 0:00:50.280 is it's Yeah, you're weird because I'm sure guys come 0:00:50.360 --> 0:00:51.440 up here and try to kick it to you because 0:00:51.479 --> 0:00:54.279 you're a cute girl, very attractive. So how do you 0:00:54.400 --> 0:00:56.920 handle that? Um? I mean, you just got to know 0:00:57.000 --> 0:00:59.360 the industry that you and you know this music industry. 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:01.360 You're gonna do with that every day? If you're pretty 0:01:01.400 --> 0:01:03.320 chick no matter where you go. So I think I 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:06.320 just you know, because people always say that, how do 0:01:06.400 --> 0:01:08.479 you handle it when you work? You know, you're working 0:01:08.480 --> 0:01:11.080 and guys are flirting with you, coming on to you. 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:12.920 How do you handle that if you especially if you're 0:01:12.959 --> 0:01:15.840 not interested, but you don't want to offend somebody, And yeah, 0:01:15.959 --> 0:01:17.760 I think you gotta keep it friendly. And I think, 0:01:17.800 --> 0:01:20.360 you know, depending on how you come off to the person, 0:01:20.400 --> 0:01:22.760 they would know immediately if you're rocking with them or not. 0:01:22.840 --> 0:01:25.640 You know what I mean. It's one thing to flirt friendly, 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:28.120 but you know, I think if you're trying to take 0:01:28.160 --> 0:01:30.560 it to the next level is pretty obvious. So you know, 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:33.600 I'm always friendly with the guys. Is again, this industry 0:01:33.680 --> 0:01:36.640 is just mail driven. So I deal with men every day. 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:38.640 All the guys that work here is a bunch of them. 0:01:38.880 --> 0:01:41.120 But you know, it's an adventure. It's fun. I learned 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:43.319 from them. I learned people always asking that, they're like, 0:01:43.319 --> 0:01:46.440 how do you deal with guys? It's just something you 0:01:46.520 --> 0:01:48.800 gotta get used to, you know, something you gotta deal 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:50.559 with if you're going to be in this industry. Again, 0:01:50.600 --> 0:01:53.160 it's a male driven industry, so you gotta get used 0:01:53.160 --> 0:01:56.040 to it. The worst for me is like even if 0:01:56.080 --> 0:01:59.800 you're really nice and they still can't take the curve right, Yeah, 0:02:00.320 --> 0:02:03.240 respect because you know why, because sometimes persistence of what 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:05.200 comes resistant. I'm sure we've all give it into a 0:02:05.240 --> 0:02:09.799 persistent guy. Yes I have. Yeah it works. Yeah, I'm 0:02:09.800 --> 0:02:12.239 not gonna lie. It works. It's like getting a job. 0:02:12.280 --> 0:02:14.640 You know, I'm gonna keep on checking in and seeing 0:02:14.680 --> 0:02:16.320 if it works out. And if one day you can 0:02:16.360 --> 0:02:19.639 get caught slipping. You know, if one day you're drunk, 0:02:20.080 --> 0:02:24.400 right or you know, upset about something or board or lonely, 0:02:24.520 --> 0:02:27.680 maybe this guy to be hearing me all the time, 0:02:28.000 --> 0:02:33.080 fucking you don't want it does happen, though it happened 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:35.880 to all of us. I'm sure, right that persistent guy. 0:02:35.919 --> 0:02:38.600 But it's just that if you're not interested at all, 0:02:38.600 --> 0:02:41.160 and that is their rules against, like dating somebody that 0:02:41.240 --> 0:02:43.160 comes up here is bad. Like do they tell you 0:02:43.200 --> 0:02:47.320 not to um or is it just like at your 0:02:47.320 --> 0:02:51.000 own discretion? I mean I've never been told not to, 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:53.120 you know, I think we're all adults. But it's just 0:02:53.240 --> 0:02:55.400 keeping it at a level where it's still respectful when 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:57.799 it's not, you know, it's not messing with anyone, it's 0:02:57.800 --> 0:03:00.640 not messing with the business. Do you think it's never spectable? Like, 0:03:00.680 --> 0:03:03.400 what do y'all think if a girl is working someplace? 0:03:03.480 --> 0:03:05.880 Like say, we came in here and a woman was 0:03:05.919 --> 0:03:08.600 working here, but you know a few people done came 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:14.720 in and it doesn't matter for me. I think. Um, 0:03:14.760 --> 0:03:16.960 I feel like once you once you have sex with 0:03:17.000 --> 0:03:20.000 somebody and you see them every day, it makes things awkward. 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:22.680 But would you look at somebody differently, like if you 0:03:22.720 --> 0:03:24.280 work you know, if we came up in here and 0:03:24.320 --> 0:03:27.320 Avian not at all, because I don't know Aban don't 0:03:27.360 --> 0:03:29.600 do nothing like that. But let's just say, like you know, 0:03:29.680 --> 0:03:31.560 several guys it was like, yeah, you know what I mean. 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:36.160 Would you be like damn, would you like she's letting 0:03:36.200 --> 0:03:42.000 a professional? Yeah? Yeah, because even if you are going 0:03:42.040 --> 0:03:44.240 to do something different place, then you need to not 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:49.080 do it excessively to where the people more people going 0:03:49.200 --> 0:03:51.320 up here. She would be like, oh, look that's the 0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:55.600 thought that works up here. Right, Look, guys, if you're interested, 0:03:55.760 --> 0:03:58.280 and then I'll be super uncomfortable for me, you know, right, 0:03:58.960 --> 0:04:01.560 like Danny's talking about me. Yeah, I mean you know 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:04.520 you you know who you fucked. So it's like you, 0:04:04.520 --> 0:04:07.400 you yourself would be uncomfortable in that situation, not even 0:04:07.520 --> 0:04:10.320 them talking about you. You yourself would be like, oh ship. 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:12.640 I always say that if guys have respect for you, 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:15.360 they're not gonna talk about you, right Like, if they 0:04:15.440 --> 0:04:17.359 respect you, they're not gonna be like, oh yeah, you know, 0:04:17.440 --> 0:04:19.000 I hate that because they don't even look at you 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:21.120 like that. They respect you to me, so they didn't 0:04:21.160 --> 0:04:22.839 want to talk no ship. And I was having that 0:04:22.920 --> 0:04:25.599 conversation the other day, Um one of my friends. He 0:04:25.720 --> 0:04:26.920 was like, you know, I could be in a room 0:04:26.920 --> 0:04:29.120 with four chicks that I fucked and I won't say anything, 0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:32.120 right you know. It's well, he sounds a little griny, 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:34.840 I mean, but in a sense, in a sense, you're 0:04:34.839 --> 0:04:36.640 not gonna be like, oh yeah, I sucked her, and 0:04:36.800 --> 0:04:39.000 her and her. It's like, it's it's your business. If 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:40.400 you guys can keep it on the low and and 0:04:40.400 --> 0:04:42.159 you don't have to spread that out to everybody, then 0:04:42.240 --> 0:04:44.279 just keep it to yourself. If you guys are respected, 0:04:44.560 --> 0:04:47.440 respectful to each other, then you know, now, let's say 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:49.680 somebody came up in here and one of us, you know, 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:52.080 step with him. Would you tell other people? Would you 0:04:52.160 --> 0:04:55.320 keep that between you and him, like, let's just say 0:04:55.360 --> 0:04:57.800 we have somebody in here, and we're like, oh, you know, 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:01.760 just tell y'all know, like or is that private information? 0:05:02.240 --> 0:05:08.480 I would probably tell you right yeah, men during the show, 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:12.960 I would like quiet, y'all like girl, Yeah, I wouldn't 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:14.560 mention it on the show either, but of course I 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:20.200 would tell y'all if he was whack, you know, service. 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:22.840 I'll tell y'all if it was whack. If it was 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:26.159 good size lip service, you know those off the record. 0:05:26.360 --> 0:05:31.560 Yeahs you gotta me and my me and my best fo. Yeah, 0:05:31.839 --> 0:05:35.159 we have a code when it comes to guys dick size, 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:37.719 like with all people knowing, well, now everybody's gonna know, 0:05:38.160 --> 0:05:42.400 but when um like if it was if it was 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:44.400 an average size, will be like, man, he was like 0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:49.000 at six, you know the battery when your battery, but 0:05:49.000 --> 0:05:50.880 it could still last for a few years, and that 0:05:51.040 --> 0:05:53.320 somebody would have a little bit. Man, he was fifty 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:56.640 percent power mode. You want to be like, man, he's 0:05:56.680 --> 0:06:00.840 about to die. He's on a little power mode. That 0:06:01.040 --> 0:06:05.679 if it's really big, we'll say, oh he had the MOFI. 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:13.560 That's hilarious right now, you don't Normally we started for 0:06:13.600 --> 0:06:15.039 the tip of the day to today's tipp is, how 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:17.320 do you tell somebody if they got you a present 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:19.360 that you don't really like it? Or should you tell 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:25.599 them that's tough. It depends on the situation, depends on 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:28.200 the president. It depends on how bad the president is. Like, 0:06:28.240 --> 0:06:30.160 if it's something that they would if it's like clothing 0:06:30.240 --> 0:06:31.800 or something that they would expect you to wear or 0:06:31.800 --> 0:06:34.159 expect to see you in, or you know, something like that, 0:06:34.240 --> 0:06:37.080 then I probably tell them, like, you know, even though 0:06:37.080 --> 0:06:39.520 it's so nice, it's just not my style. It's just 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:42.560 not for me. This is funny because, um, one of 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:45.840 my best friends, a guy gave her a charm for 0:06:45.880 --> 0:06:52.200 her bracelet and it's, um, the title of the charm, 0:06:52.279 --> 0:06:55.800 it's my first our first dance, right, it's two as 0:06:55.800 --> 0:06:57.680 a boy and a girl, you know, one of those 0:06:57.960 --> 0:07:00.800 bless So it's a boy and a girl at his 0:07:00.960 --> 0:07:04.240 first dance. And she's like when she opened, like, she's like, 0:07:04.279 --> 0:07:07.840 but we've never danced before. How long have they been dating? 0:07:08.480 --> 0:07:11.560 Like a year or something? And then um, well they're 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:13.760 like on and off because she has another boyfriend. But 0:07:13.800 --> 0:07:16.640 that's a whole different right, Yeah, that's a whole different 0:07:16.760 --> 0:07:20.360 dancing itself. Yeah, that's a whole different dance. But she's like, 0:07:20.480 --> 0:07:23.360 we didn't dance on our first day. Like if if 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:26.000 it doesn't make sense, it doesn't make sense though type 0:07:26.000 --> 0:07:29.400 of connection. Maybe, Yeah, that's what I told her. I 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:32.600 was like, maybe you should like And that's a tough 0:07:32.640 --> 0:07:36.600 situation because the way she the way she kind of 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:50.200 took the gift is like but he now you know what. Okay, 0:07:50.240 --> 0:07:52.720 SO had ex boyfriend and he used to gna be 0:07:52.760 --> 0:07:55.400 the worst presence ever. And we were together for a 0:07:55.400 --> 0:07:58.360 long time, like five years, and his presence used to 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:00.720 be terrible. I used to be like he would be 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:02.880 so excited to give him He wouldn't even be excited. 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:05.800 He just wasn't a thoughtful person and he would give 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:08.680 me the worst presence and I never would say anything, 0:08:08.760 --> 0:08:12.200 but it would make me mad. So when we did 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:16.120 break up, Now, he did cheat on me, and you know, 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:18.920 I found out and then I was like, okay, and 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:21.640 I was thinking to myself, he got me whack presents anyway, 0:08:22.040 --> 0:08:23.720 and that's like, I think you could put up with 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:25.640 a lot more when somebody treats me really good and 0:08:25.680 --> 0:08:28.680 it's like thoughtful and everything. But because you know, he 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:30.800 got me whack presents and he didn't treat me like 0:08:30.960 --> 0:08:36.160 like he was cheating. It take you a little homemade purse, 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:43.000 but you know, lie, he was like, you know this 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:45.840 woman in my job makes persons. He really brought me 0:08:45.920 --> 0:08:50.680 a purse. But then in those situations when people buy 0:08:50.720 --> 0:08:53.200 you continuously by your gifts that you don't like, is 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:55.080 it that they're not paying attention to what you do 0:08:55.160 --> 0:08:57.880 like or they're just picking up whatever. Maybe it's their 0:08:57.960 --> 0:09:01.319 personal taste it's but his taste was good. He put 0:09:01.400 --> 0:09:03.920 himself all kind of nice stuff. Maybe you know what 0:09:03.960 --> 0:09:05.560 I think. I think he never had like a for 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:08.319 real like the girlfriend he had before me was like basic, 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:11.360 not even but he never had like no real girlfriend 0:09:11.360 --> 0:09:13.520 that he really did stuff for. So it probably was 0:09:13.559 --> 0:09:16.200 his most serious relationships. It was like a learning experience. 0:09:16.640 --> 0:09:18.560 I was like candy Pig. I'm sure he was buying 0:09:18.720 --> 0:09:21.560 amateur gifts, right, he was just didn't an amateur gifting. 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:25.240 Like he went on vacation and he came back with 0:09:25.400 --> 0:09:29.480 like some type of shell necklace from he probably bought 0:09:29.480 --> 0:09:32.000 at the airport. Oh my god, I can't even imagine 0:09:32.000 --> 0:09:34.480 you're making that cold. So what are your girlfriend's like girl, 0:09:34.640 --> 0:09:36.360 this guy, and I was like, I don't want to 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:39.360 be And it's not even that I'm materialistic or I'm 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:42.360 an asshole. I just felt like this is all I 0:09:42.400 --> 0:09:45.440 can't even were a little more in life. And then 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:47.960 one time he got me a juicy couture perfume set. 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:54.200 It smelled disgusting. Yeah, that's that's that's like teenager. Where 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:56.960 do you get it from? Like century twenty one or something. 0:09:57.000 --> 0:09:58.400 Where did he get it from? I think he ended 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:01.360 up Bloomingdals or something, but it was listen and it 0:10:01.520 --> 0:10:04.120 was like teenage perfect, probably the same place you got 0:10:04.120 --> 0:10:08.000 the charm. But I do feel like at the time 0:10:08.040 --> 0:10:10.600 I should have said something to him, because I felt 0:10:10.600 --> 0:10:11.960 like it was wrong for me not to say anything. 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:14.240 But it was making me matter and matter, and I 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:17.640 wasn't saying because I felt like it would be ungrateful 0:10:17.720 --> 0:10:21.360 to be like, I don't really like these, so I 0:10:21.360 --> 0:10:25.520 wanted to be appreciative of it. But I just like 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:27.319 it was building. It was like a build up, you know, 0:10:27.520 --> 0:10:29.280 sometimes you're like, Okay, I don't want to be an asshole, 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:32.000 so I'm not gonna say but it built up and 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:33.480 I probably would have had this time. I was like 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:37.199 this whack ass present, Like it just didn't. I did, 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:39.800 but but it was like way later after you given 0:10:39.800 --> 0:10:44.480 like eight terrible presents, see after president with three? I like, listen, bro, 0:10:45.360 --> 0:10:50.800 let's just yeah. Everybody was talking about black Shina and 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:54.719 Rap Kardashian getting engaged and the ring that he bought her, right, 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:59.679 seven carrots seven carrots. So somebody was asking me, you know, 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:02.400 how much do you think somebody should spend on a ring? 0:11:02.480 --> 0:11:05.199 Like if you was gonna get engaged, how doesn't like, 0:11:05.240 --> 0:11:10.640 what do you expect somebody to spend? Um? I it 0:11:10.720 --> 0:11:14.520 depends on the situation, like if um if it depends 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:16.240 on what he does for a living, what you do 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:18.440 for a living? What's going on? Because in general they 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:23.120 say three months salary, Okay, you supposed to spend on 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:26.760 a ring, on a ring? My friends just got engaged 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:31.720 in her ring was like nice, Yeah, it was nice. 0:11:31.800 --> 0:11:34.600 That's number. I agree with stuff. I think it's just 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:37.640 really you know your situation. But if somebody asked you, 0:11:37.640 --> 0:11:39.880 like how much you think would you expect somebody to 0:11:39.920 --> 0:11:42.080 spend on the ring for you? What would you say 0:11:42.760 --> 0:11:46.080 for me? For my soul? Yes? What would you say? 0:11:46.520 --> 0:12:00.240 Three million? Dollars. I mean cute, you know, if if 0:12:00.280 --> 0:12:04.720 you want to you know, I mean, I mean, you know, 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:09.200 we could go up to a million, but millions aller 0:12:09.280 --> 0:12:12.080 ring where it's so it's so big and happy, I 0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:16.120 can't even lift my hand. Would you get it to praise? Yes, 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:18.439 I would get it a pise. Is that bad? Does 0:12:18.480 --> 0:12:20.679 that mean? I don't know. Now. I had a discussion 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:23.080 with one of my hands and we had a whole 0:12:23.120 --> 0:12:28.720 debate about this. Well, it depends. It depends like insurance purposes. Yes, 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:35.480 what if he says it's in short already? M hmm. Interesting, Yeah, 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:40.120 I don't know. I'm saying under rail. Would you get 0:12:40.160 --> 0:12:42.720 it appraised? Because my friend said she would, I said 0:12:42.760 --> 0:12:50.040 I would really wouldn't immediately, Yeah, not right away your prayers, Yeah, 0:12:50.280 --> 0:12:53.160 but I would be I mean if if if for 0:12:53.280 --> 0:12:55.920 somehow I didn't find out some way down the line 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:57.560 and I really really felt like I needed to know 0:12:57.640 --> 0:13:00.200 or I wanted to know, then I would just would 0:13:00.200 --> 0:13:02.280 you ask him I get it a praise? I would 0:13:02.280 --> 0:13:04.080 probably just get it a praise. I think it's kind 0:13:04.120 --> 0:13:05.480 of rude to be like, how much you pay for this? 0:13:06.960 --> 0:13:08.599 You know, when you could just go read to go 0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:11.480 get it a praise. We're not if you don't know. Okay, 0:13:12.880 --> 0:13:14.200 now what if you what if you're going you find 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:21.520 out it's not real? Right, because then do you go 0:13:21.600 --> 0:13:25.280 and talk Look, I got this a praise that's acts like, well, 0:13:25.280 --> 0:13:28.120 hey about this ring? And then what if he lies? 0:13:28.720 --> 0:13:30.400 Then that's when you slide that. People were going like, 0:13:31.000 --> 0:13:35.480 so now you're both designed. You can't get mad at 0:13:35.480 --> 0:13:37.200 me for getting into praise. If this ship is fake, 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:41.320 who's who's worse? And at the end of the day, Yeah, 0:13:41.720 --> 0:13:44.040 what would you do if you got the ring a 0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:49.560 praise and it was fake? Mm hmm. I don't think 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:57.120 I'll talk to the motherfucker for a wow, well this glass? 0:13:57.800 --> 0:14:02.840 But you would telling yeah, yeah, sure, definitely you would 0:14:02.840 --> 0:14:08.240 tell him what if I what it at him? What 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:13.120 I would probably tell him after he's in the hospital 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:16.320 because I almost killed him because he got cut, And 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:19.480 I would tell him there like I caught you because 0:14:19.600 --> 0:14:22.360 you gave me a fake as relationships over after that, 0:14:22.800 --> 0:14:26.000 I mean it's not yeah, it's a line like for that, 0:14:26.320 --> 0:14:32.840 I mean it's for me. It depends on the situation, 0:14:32.960 --> 0:14:35.600 like if um, if you know it's a it's a 0:14:35.640 --> 0:14:39.360 hard working you know regular guy, you know who's who's 0:14:39.440 --> 0:14:42.480 doing the forty hours a week. And I went and 0:14:42.520 --> 0:14:44.160 got there. He got me a beautiful ring, and I 0:14:44.200 --> 0:14:46.520 went and found out it was fake. I probably wouldn't. 0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:49.400 I probably wouldn't be sold down on him for it. 0:14:49.440 --> 0:14:51.720 You know, I probably wouldn't kill him for it. But 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:55.440 if I'm dating an athlete or a rapper or something 0:14:55.520 --> 0:14:57.520 like that, and then give me a bakery. But if 0:14:57.520 --> 0:15:05.000 he's like babe, I wouldn't fake jul Now they be moving. 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:07.120 We don't want nobody hanging on what you're trying to 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:09.840 take your ship. Yeah no, but you know that's because 0:15:09.920 --> 0:15:12.360 you have You should have brought me a real ring, 0:15:12.440 --> 0:15:14.680 and they had a dummy ring that I wear out 0:15:15.120 --> 0:15:17.640 and the real ring safe. At least we know we 0:15:17.720 --> 0:15:20.760 got a real bring. I think it all depends on 0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:22.720 the situation and a lot of things like stuff. And 0:15:22.760 --> 0:15:24.600 he said, if it's a hard working dude and he 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:26.680 doesn't have a lot of money, but he feels like 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:28.920 you really want to ring and he wants to propose 0:15:29.000 --> 0:15:31.120 to you, and he has to do whatever it takes 0:15:31.120 --> 0:15:34.720 to make you happy, wouldn't if it was fake, you know, 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:38.000 that would be a problem. But maybe he felt pressured 0:15:38.160 --> 0:15:39.840 that he wanted to get you a ring and he couldn't. 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:41.320 Maybe it was like one day I'm gonna get a 0:15:41.320 --> 0:15:44.200 real one and replace the fake one. But it's still 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:47.120 a conversation, like, God, now I'm playing, isn't ring exactly? 0:15:47.120 --> 0:15:49.800 I was gonna say, maybe just don't pay me ring right, 0:15:49.880 --> 0:15:51.600 just don't get don't get it right now you really 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:53.920 feel like that? Can a guy propose to you with 0:15:54.000 --> 0:15:57.000 no ring? No, that's not a proposal. There is no 0:15:57.080 --> 0:15:59.480 ring involved. But I mean you can go google, go 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:01.400 get married it out having a wetting So what difference? 0:16:01.400 --> 0:16:03.320 Don't make its only paper at the end of the that. No, 0:16:03.440 --> 0:16:07.280 I mean I think your man was like, yeah, let's 0:16:07.280 --> 0:16:10.800 just get married, but no ring. He's just ready to 0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:13.120 go to the court. You don't think he proposed to you. 0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:16.800 That's not a proposal that jump in the room. No, no, 0:16:16.960 --> 0:16:20.480 it's getting hitched. No no, no, no, no, no no. 0:16:20.640 --> 0:16:23.880 Because if you're getting marriage, when you ask the questions, 0:16:24.120 --> 0:16:26.560 get down nothing to do. What if he says let's 0:16:26.560 --> 0:16:31.120 get tattoos, it's let's get tattoos? Is a proposal to 0:16:31.160 --> 0:16:36.760 get at ring tattoo? Like a ring tattoo Yeah, like, 0:16:36.840 --> 0:16:41.160 let's get married and done tattoo it. Yeah, yeah, it's 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:44.480 still a proposal. If he gets down, She's like, I'm 0:16:44.520 --> 0:16:47.920 not having it, Michael, my man had a ring. Having 0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:51.520 If it's important to you, that's fine. I mean, I 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:53.440 don't really know if a ring is all that important 0:16:54.200 --> 0:16:57.080 as the commitment itself, right, because you can have the 0:16:57.120 --> 0:16:59.320 craziest you can have a goddamn ice skating rink on 0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:03.560 your finger and there like ship low so with me, 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:06.679 and at the end of it, what matters is the 0:17:06.720 --> 0:17:11.159 real commitment and not the materialistic part of it. But 0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:13.040 but but I would prefer to have, right, That's what 0:17:13.040 --> 0:17:16.600 I'm like, what if I had If you're in a 0:17:16.680 --> 0:17:18.880 serious relationship and you've been with him for a long 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:22.400 time and you're ready for that commitment, you would expect 0:17:22.440 --> 0:17:24.480 and hope that that moment will be special when he 0:17:24.600 --> 0:17:26.199 because you want to believe you when we say you 0:17:26.240 --> 0:17:31.000 engaged ring right, when you're like, I'm engaged, desid in 0:17:31.080 --> 0:17:34.320 the ring, It's like if you're you know, you're not engaged, 0:17:35.320 --> 0:17:38.760 not yet? Oh then um who got married without a ring? 0:17:39.040 --> 0:17:41.600 I think it was Tammy and Walker. Yeah, And she's like, 0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:43.480 I don't need know ring. I got a big ass house. 0:17:45.680 --> 0:17:48.560 I got a big as I'm not mad us saying 0:17:48.680 --> 0:17:50.360 let's not spend money on the ring because we're gonna 0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:53.040 spend money on the house instead. Yeah, I'm never mad 0:17:53.040 --> 0:17:57.280 at being practical, right, So I'm not. I mean, it's like, right, yeah, 0:17:57.680 --> 0:18:00.480 but you want the ring. I mean, but if you're 0:18:00.480 --> 0:18:02.679 doing that, like if you're invested in the home for 0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:04.720 a future family and you know you're gonna be together 0:18:04.760 --> 0:18:06.960 for a while, then the rink of weight, you know, 0:18:07.680 --> 0:18:09.560 it all depends on a person. Oh my god, how 0:18:09.600 --> 0:18:14.040 could I know? How could I forget this? The first 0:18:14.080 --> 0:18:16.080 time I was to gage, the first time I got 0:18:16.119 --> 0:18:21.480 to gauge, the guy gave me a cubic yes, God 0:18:21.520 --> 0:18:24.560 bless that man, and I went. I took it too. 0:18:24.960 --> 0:18:27.360 I took it to the pawn shop because I knew 0:18:27.400 --> 0:18:29.600 the guy in the pawn shop. I was only like seventeen, 0:18:29.680 --> 0:18:32.080 eighteen years old. I took I took it to the 0:18:32.119 --> 0:18:34.040 pawn shop, and the guy was like, no, this isn't 0:18:34.040 --> 0:18:37.080 a diamond. So I was like all right. I was 0:18:37.119 --> 0:18:39.560 like okay. So I went to him and I told him. 0:18:39.560 --> 0:18:44.240 I was like, hey, you know, I took it. Yeah, like, um, 0:18:44.600 --> 0:18:47.320 was this supposed to be a diamond? Like did you know? 0:18:49.920 --> 0:18:57.600 And he was like no, it's a diamond, was like yeah, yeah, 0:18:57.880 --> 0:19:00.399 it was awful. He was an awful He was an 0:19:00.400 --> 0:19:06.320 awful boyfriend. Was just awful. Yeah. Right, but you said 0:19:06.359 --> 0:19:10.080 you was seventeen at that time, Oh he was thirty one. 0:19:10.920 --> 0:19:13.960 Well he's a ready discussed exactly because I was trying 0:19:14.000 --> 0:19:15.880 to say if it was a situation where he where 0:19:15.880 --> 0:19:18.880 he was like he was, but he had just came 0:19:18.880 --> 0:19:22.480 out of jail. He was in jail for seven years. Okay, yeah, 0:19:22.560 --> 0:19:26.560 here we go from jail. Yeah, probably got it from 0:19:26.600 --> 0:19:29.440 a cracking jack box man. We had was fake racks 0:19:29.440 --> 0:19:37.000 and jail commissary money. You know what. Let me find 0:19:37.000 --> 0:19:40.720 out he came home and got you that commissary brain. Yo, 0:19:44.440 --> 0:19:50.359 marry me? Now, would you propose to a guy? Yes, 0:19:51.600 --> 0:19:55.280 of course I would. I would ask a guy to 0:19:55.400 --> 0:19:58.280 marry me. I would ask a guy to marry me. 0:19:59.000 --> 0:20:02.240 It just depends on the situation, Like I wouldn't propose 0:20:02.320 --> 0:20:04.679 to just any guy that I'm in love with. How 0:20:04.720 --> 0:20:06.679 would you propose to a guide stuff? How would I 0:20:06.720 --> 0:20:10.159 propose to marry this so a guy? It depends, like 0:20:10.200 --> 0:20:13.040 I said, like I would ask my son's father to 0:20:13.080 --> 0:20:15.320 marry me. You know what I mean. We've been together 0:20:15.359 --> 0:20:18.080 for a long time, Like I know he probably wanted 0:20:18.119 --> 0:20:20.280 that at a point, and you know I didn't want 0:20:20.280 --> 0:20:22.360 it at that time. And then you know, if we 0:20:22.359 --> 0:20:24.200 were to get back together, you know, a big history, 0:20:24.200 --> 0:20:26.719 there would have to be a big, long history. Like 0:20:26.760 --> 0:20:33.280 I wouldn't propose to somebody. No, I wouldn't. But if 0:20:33.280 --> 0:20:35.520 I were to propose to anyone, it would be him, 0:20:35.840 --> 0:20:38.199 and it would not And I'm not saying that I 0:20:38.240 --> 0:20:43.159 want to marry him. No, no, no, that is a 0:20:43.200 --> 0:20:48.159 half years that was. No, he don't. They're broken up. 0:20:48.200 --> 0:20:51.200 He doesn't have a girlfriend anymore. Yeah, my son's father 0:20:51.280 --> 0:20:53.280 is single, right now. Did he hit you up to 0:20:53.359 --> 0:20:55.520 tell you that? No, he didn't. But I speaks to him, 0:20:55.600 --> 0:20:57.240 you know, we have a kid together, so he speaks 0:20:57.240 --> 0:20:59.439 to each other all the time. And he broke up 0:20:59.440 --> 0:21:02.520 with his girlfriend, and unfortunately, I feel bad. I was 0:21:02.560 --> 0:21:05.560 honestly hoping that they would have a baby. Us us 0:21:05.560 --> 0:21:07.760 such a lie. You do not like his girl? No, 0:21:07.880 --> 0:21:14.000 I don't mind her, She's all right, But I still 0:21:14.000 --> 0:21:16.080 want to know how how would you propose to a 0:21:16.119 --> 0:21:20.600 guy like I'll be like, you know, what's up them. 0:21:21.480 --> 0:21:25.000 I wouldn't get down like remember Christie and Jim Jones. Remember, 0:21:25.920 --> 0:21:27.800 I wouldn't do it like that. I wouldn't get down 0:21:27.800 --> 0:21:31.879