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Speaker 1: This is Cowboys Sam, and this is Eh John. And

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Speaker 1: we've last showed.

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Speaker 1: But before that we got a wrangle, a quick little

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Speaker 3: Much they paid us the bucks to help this show

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Speaker 3: stay alive. I'm going no contact with my mother in law.

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Speaker 1: Why not? We don't like monster in laws.

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Speaker 3: Sugar warning frementions of miscarriage. I twenty seven female, am

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Speaker 3: engaged to my fiance, twenty nine male. We had been

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Speaker 3: close friends for three years before becoming a couple, and

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Speaker 3: once we got together we were absolutely inseparable.

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Speaker 1: Huhuh.

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Speaker 3: After about two months of dating, we fell in love

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Speaker 3: and decided to start a family.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, quick, I'm sorry, get after it.

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Speaker 3: After two months of dating?

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Speaker 1: Why wait?

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Speaker 3: I know it was quick and may seem impulsive to outsiders, Yes,

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Speaker 3: but it genuinely felt like one of those when you know,

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Speaker 3: you know moments that people talk about. No, I hey,

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Speaker 3: they know you know, nonsen you decide to have a

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Speaker 3: kid together. That's crazy.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you just haven't met that.

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Speaker 3: No, that's crazy, you have to That's not enough time

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Speaker 3: to talk about if you want to send your child

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Speaker 3: to public or private school, if you want to raise

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Speaker 3: them in this place that you're living in or somewhere else.

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Speaker 1: If Angie and I had the resources, we definitely would

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Speaker 1: have to give a boy.

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Speaker 3: Now that's not true.

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Speaker 1: You don't know me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know her.

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Speaker 1: I just don't have the resources right now.

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Speaker 3: I know Angie. By the way, this comes from character

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Speaker 4: Riley, and I'm Keon, and he's calling Angie.

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Speaker 3: I had only met his mom a couple of times

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Speaker 3: I also want to say we read a story in

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Speaker 3: know you. I'm sorry. If I had a child and

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Speaker 3: The first real red flag came when his sister asked

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Speaker 3: This is why you date longer than two months before

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Speaker 3: This issue not him, I agree, but but he could

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Speaker 1: No, I'm I'm happy they're in love. People have met

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Speaker 1: You know what, I don't Okay, I think they're the same.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, awesome. Ashley says they should have really met each

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Speaker 3: Unless you have It happens accidentally. It happens. Things happens

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Speaker 3: That's crazy. That's insane. Thank you, Kean, because I thought

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Speaker 1: That's the consequence. I'm not saying that it's perfect at all.

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Speaker 3: I hope it works out long term. I'm not wishing

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Speaker 3: Eventually she apologized, but it felt completely forced. My fiance

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Speaker 3: We told my family first, then his sister, and finally

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Speaker 1: Why does this family resort to pure chaos?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: What is going on?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 1: Why are we not having meaningful understanding and giving each

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Speaker 3: None of these people are reasonable, just.

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Speaker 1: A little bit of leeway if you don't agree with someone,

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Speaker 1: Why are we going scorched earth?

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Speaker 2: What?

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Speaker 3: When our second baby was born, I had learned my

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that's so tough. Sorry, Ob, that's really tough.

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Speaker 3: She claimed my mom had kissed the baby and nobody cared.

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Speaker 1: Also, husband, father of my child, fight.

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Speaker 1: And we're going low contact. It seems like they're already

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Speaker 3: Yep. The post was either complete fabrications or severely twisted

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Speaker 3: Doesn't help anyone to keep trying to talk to crazy

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Speaker 3: I don't trust this.

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Speaker 1: There is a place where someone admits something was wrong.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and they actually want to make amends.

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Speaker 1: And I think they slowly make amends through you know,

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Speaker 1: This very instantaneous. I feel like you're gonna apologize quickly

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Speaker 3: recently she's reverted to her old passive aggressive behavior, excluding

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Speaker 1: This tells me everything I didn't know about EUOPI.

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Speaker 3: OP, that you had to be on your side, and

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Speaker 3: then you mentioned your snapchat streak and you lost me, Like.

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Speaker 1: How's our peace streak going? How's our You're mad she

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Speaker 3: Your snapchat streak.

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Speaker 1: How's your I'm gonna go low contact with everyone's streak going.

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Speaker 3: Just made me like, totally, she's.

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Speaker 1: Out of it, dude. I've never seen her ever react

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Speaker 3: That made me like, actually mad you were, Opie.

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Speaker 1: Have you no longer have the grace or mercy of

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Speaker 1: the worm queen? Oh yeah, it's gone so well.

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Speaker 3: You brought me back after the two months and then

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Speaker 3: She's now claiming I'm being fake because I keep their

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Speaker 3: me upset that our three year old had napped during

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Speaker 3: with her. This was absolutely true. I did say this,

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Speaker 3: and I stand by it. We've seen her exactly three

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Speaker 1: I lived two hours away, mind you.

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Speaker 3: Not calling on our son's birthday but claiming she showed

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Speaker 1: Low contact contact. Second question, how is your relationship with

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Speaker 3: It feels like he's not defending any of this. How

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Speaker 1: I'm helping Sophia out on this, I think they're gonna

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Speaker 3: Ever, I sure hope so, but I am noticing a

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Speaker 1: By the way, is your immediate family because you've got

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Speaker 3: But there is an update, folks. His mom and sister

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Speaker 3: His sister even tells our children that we just don't

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Speaker 3: want to go see them, making us the villains in

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Speaker 2: Like I'm your mom, I raised you and sacrifice so

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Speaker 2: or I'm your sister and you've been my closest brother

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Speaker 3: It hurts that you won't talk to me now because

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Speaker 3: It took months of therapy and reading through all of

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Speaker 3: After she texted me multiple times demanding responses and getting

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Speaker 3: Dude, do you have any final thoughts?

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Speaker 1: I feel like the husband could have said, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Those were efforts, but over the course of seven months,

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Speaker 3: It should be like I'm doing this to get something.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it should be like, oh, I love you, I'm

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Speaker 3: Agreed. I really think that you need to limit contact

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Speaker 3: During our final conversation, I told there directly that seven

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Speaker 3: She accused me of being fake for not engaging with

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Speaker 3: I'm removed his sister from all social media platforms. The

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Mara had a really good comment. Why

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And Kimberly Fan says, and honestly, it's wild that

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Speaker 5: Intentions to decee My thirty four male sister in law

441
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Speaker 5: twenty six female is a bit of an introvert who

442
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Speaker 5: hasn't had much success in dating.

443
00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:26,600
Speaker 1: She was in a long term relationship for.

444
00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,879
Speaker 5: About three years, but her ex broke it off and

445
00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,520
Speaker 5: she still hasn't found anyone Since this was about four

446
00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,160
Speaker 5: years ago. She's gone on some dates over the years,

447
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,919
Speaker 5: but nothing seems to work out and this has been

448
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,280
Speaker 5: frustrating her. By the way, this comes from users sis

449
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Speaker 5: in law throw one and if you want to submit

450
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Speaker 5: your own stories, go to the ar slash okay stories.

451
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Speaker 1: I'm subbured.

452
00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,080
Speaker 5: So a couple of weeks ago, she found a guy

453
00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,720
Speaker 5: late twenties on Tinder and they went out on.

454
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Speaker 1: A date to a restaurant. Okay, yeah, she said. The

455
00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,840
Speaker 1: date went okay, okay, And I.

456
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Speaker 5: Don't know all the details, but apparently this guy has

457
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Speaker 5: a Monday okay, he owns his own business. He picked

458
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 5: her up in a BMW and they went to a

459
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,719
Speaker 5: really fancy place for their first date. Personal aside, this

460
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,119
Speaker 5: all seems very odd to me from a match on Tinder.

461
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 5: So my wife, twenty nine female, was asking more about

462
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Speaker 5: the date, and I got the impression she wasn't physically

463
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Speaker 5: attracted to him. My sister in law likes tall guys,

464
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,720
Speaker 5: and he isn't very tall and he's a little overweight.

465
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 5: She showed us his Instagram and he's an alright looking dude,

466
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 5: but I could tell she was kind of on his

467
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Speaker 5: physical appearance.

468
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Speaker 1: Overall, I feel like with guys if they stand on

469
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Speaker 1: their money, it makes them taller. Yeah, that makes sense.

470
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Speaker 5: Is this guy just realizing money is attractive, That's what

471
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Speaker 5: it sounds like. It's like, I don't know what why

472
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Speaker 5: my sister could be into this guy with money. Oh buddy,

473
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Speaker 5: Oh you're so close.

474
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Speaker 1: You're right there. It's okay to be attracted money. Not

475
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Speaker 1: everyone wants it. I don't want that.

476
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Speaker 5: Last week, they go on another date. My wife and

477
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Speaker 5: I were at my mother in law's fifty two female house.

478
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,200
Speaker 5: When she got back, she lives at home and tells

479
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Speaker 5: us about how the date went. Again, they go to

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Speaker 5: a pretty fancy restaurant and apparently it was a carbon

481
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,919
Speaker 5: copy of their previous date, which seems weird. I'm not

482
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,439
Speaker 5: one hundred percent sure what that means. I guess they

483
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 5: had the same conversations. These were her words, and she

484
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 5: was obviously less enthused by this date. My wife asks

485
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,400
Speaker 5: if she's going to see him again, and she said maybe.

486
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Speaker 5: I ask if she sees a future with him, and

487
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:30,440
Speaker 5: she said maybe. But since he has money, she wants

488
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Speaker 5: to try and make it work.

489
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Speaker 1: She's got to be a little bit more there than money.

490
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Speaker 5: Kings, You're worth more than just what's in your pocket.

491
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Speaker 1: Should empty our pockets out right now, and see what

492
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 1: we're worth nothing. I got nothing in my pockets Ford

493
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 1: Fusion box opener wallet. That's a you could take my identity,

494
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 1: you could try.

495
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Speaker 5: I was shocked by this answer, and I was even

496
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Speaker 5: more shocked that my wife or mother in law didn't

497
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Speaker 5: say anything to her about this kind of attitude. I said,

498
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Speaker 5: sister in law, that's not nice. If you're not attracted

499
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Speaker 5: to you shouldn't just use him for fancy dinners. This

500
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 5: didn't start an argument exactly, but she didn't appreciate my comment,

501
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,440
Speaker 5: and it kind of soured the evening, so we left

502
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,719
Speaker 5: shortly after m My wife and I got into it

503
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 5: when we got home, and she told me I should

504
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 5: mind my own business. I said, it's fed up that

505
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 5: she's only interested in seeing him more because he has money.

506
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 5: If she had that kind of attitude about me when

507
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Speaker 5: we first started dating, we may not have ended up together.

508
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Speaker 1: She said, I was.

509
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Speaker 5: Making a lot of assumptions about her intentions, But how

510
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 5: can I be making assumptions when it came right out

511
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 5: of her mouth. This went on and on for a bit,

512
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,879
Speaker 5: and this is still a lingering issue between us. I

513
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 5: feel like I've become slightly red pilled or something, because

514
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,159
Speaker 5: the more I ste on this, the more it's pissing

515
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Speaker 5: me off. And I'm really contemplating reaching out to him

516
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:47,360
Speaker 5: about this. Gross brother, just no, mind your own business?

517
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Speaker 1: What are you doing?

518
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 3: What?

519
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,360
Speaker 5: This is truly a mind your own business type Yeah?

520
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Speaker 1: Way, yes, you should have not said anything. This sounds

521
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Speaker 1: like a conversation you would have with your significant other

522
00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 1: and it ends there. Yeah, and you should go. You're right,

523
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 1: you shouldn't talk to the sister about this. If you

524
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 1: think that about the sister, don't say it out loud.

525
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's gonna go talk to the guy that she's

526
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 5: dating right now and be like, yeah, she just wants

527
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 5: you for your money.

528
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I could somehow kind of see the intention behind it,

529
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Speaker 1: but that's their business.

530
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Speaker 5: Yeah, imagine he's just like, yeah, bro, I know, why do.

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Speaker 1: You think I pulled up in a BMW?

532
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Speaker 5: Why do you think I pulled up in the BMW

533
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 5: and took her to the nicest restaurant in town?

534
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 1: Come on, it's a factor for me anyway.

535
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 5: Not saying that's right, but it's like none, he's really

536
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,439
Speaker 5: completely none of your business or or like you know,

537
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 5: feeling like a sense of.

538
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Speaker 1: Like justice or righteousness, like he needs to know. It's like, no,

539
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:42,439
Speaker 1: that's their business.

540
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 5: I don't know him like that, And I'm aware this

541
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,959
Speaker 5: might be a bit excessive, but if I was in

542
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Speaker 5: his situation, I would be very grateful of somebody with

543
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 5: inside information let me know.

544
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Speaker 1: So I'm not sure if I should.

545
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 5: Do this comment Number one, why do you assume that

546
00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 5: this poor, innocent, rich dude is naively flawning, unting his

547
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,919
Speaker 5: wealth and in need of you to come rescue him

548
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,159
Speaker 5: from a shameless gold digger After two tender dates, he

549
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,400
Speaker 5: was smart enough to get some money, and now he's

550
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 5: doing well, and he does what he wants with it,

551
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,120
Speaker 5: which includes using it as a means of advanced social capital.

552
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 5: Picking her up in a flashy car, taking her to

553
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Speaker 5: a very high end restaurant, deliberately flashing his wealth on

554
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 5: the first date. Is him using that feature about himself

555
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,399
Speaker 5: as a means of making himself more attractive. If he

556
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,119
Speaker 5: wanted your sister in law not to care about it,

557
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 5: he wouldn't have done those things or made her aware

558
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 5: of his wealth so early on. I've read an interview

559
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 5: with the founder of Seeking Arrangement where he basically said,

560
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Speaker 5: I'm not a great looking guy, and I know I

561
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Speaker 5: don't have a lot to offer women, but I am

562
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,919
Speaker 5: loaded and that lets me get with women that are

563
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 5: otherwise way out of my league.

564
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Speaker 1: It's mutually beneficial.

565
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 5: It is super weird and creepy of you to assume

566
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 5: that your sister in law is taking advantage of this dude,

567
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 5: and not that he is an.

568
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 1: Adult who is fully aware of the situation that he

569
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 1: is in. Keep out of it. And there's a second comment.

570
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Speaker 1: Couldn't best sid a better?

571
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Speaker 5: Fully agree with comment number one? There comment number two?

572
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 5: Do you really think a guy in his late twenties

573
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 5: needs you to explain to him that women are attracted

574
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,439
Speaker 5: to him because he has money?

575
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 1: Are you dense or just weird? This is none of

576
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 1: your business.

577
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 5: How do you know he's not dating her, just a hookup.

578
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 5: You don't know anything about this. And there's an update.

579
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 5: I do know that if your wife was upset, you

580
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 5: should have been like, yeah, you're right, happy wife, happy life.

581
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:26,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is not a non.

582
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 5: Issue for you. This isn't something that you needed to

583
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:34,120
Speaker 5: like set right with your relationship in hot water over. Yeah,

584
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 5: there's an update. To start off, I did not reach

585
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 5: out to the guy thank god. Thinking about it more,

586
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 5: I can't assume he is a fool, so he must

587
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 5: be aware of what he's doing. Furthermore, the headache that

588
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 5: would have followed if I had reached out is just

589
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 5: not worth it.

590
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 1: I okay, oh wow, wow, so she's spinning it.

591
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 5: You know what.

592
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: I actually I am saving myself energy. Yeah, it's just crazy.

593
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 1: This is how far No this is? This is his

594
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 1: the brother. Oh this is a dude. Yeah. Oh I

595
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 1: thought it was a woman this whole time. No op

596
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 1: is thirty four mail. Oh I think I got that

597
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 1: mixed up. Guys, so sorry reading comprehension. We'll get the

598
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 1: everyone's private parts mixed up here.

599
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 5: I got mixed up. I thought this was his sister.

600
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 5: It's not even his sister. It's his wife's sister.

601
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 1: I thought this was, which makes it even more of

602
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 1: a This is none of your business, dude, this is weird.

603
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: A man a man. Uh, it's just just using you

604
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 1: for your money. I just thought you'd need to know, bro,

605
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: Leave it alone.

606
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 5: The reality is there's people who date because they're like

607
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 5: I want to go be taking nice places, into nice things,

608
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 5: and be in a nice car with a guy who

609
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 5: makes a lot of money.

610
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 1: Financial security is attractive. Also sit back and watch it

611
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 1: as a soap opera.

612
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 5: Man, I would be more like a, hey, you know

613
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 5: that that's not everything right, not in like a I

614
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 5: need to tell him it needs to be like a

615
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 5: we should maybe like try to guide your sister to

616
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,479
Speaker 5: a point where it's like, sure, it's nice to have

617
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 5: a partner who has money, but it's like that shouldn't

618
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 5: be the only thing like keeping you in the relationship,

619
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, Let's.

620
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: Be the only attractive factor. You should like his personality. Yeah,

621
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 1: you get two of the three handsome personality money if

622
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: you have all three, hit me up.

623
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 5: Everything beyond this point I heard secondhand from my wife.

624
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 5: I have not spoken to my mother in law or

625
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 5: sister in law about this situation. Since the incident, I've

626
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 5: come to find out my mother in law did agree

627
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 5: with what I said to my sister in law, but

628
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 5: she knew that if she made a comment about it

629
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 5: that my sister in law would have gotten very upset.

630
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 5: My mother in law told my wife she was actually

631
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 5: going to talk about it more with my sister in

632
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 5: law after my wife and I left that night, but

633
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 5: since I made my comment, she felt like it was

634
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 5: hard to bring it up again without looking like we.

635
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 1: My mother in law and I, I mean, we're ganging

636
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: up on her.

637
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 5: My wife also told me that she doesn't think my

638
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 5: sister in law should keep seeing him either, if she's

639
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 5: really only interested because he has money. Apparently my wife

640
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 5: didn't like the way I expressed my opinion and was

641
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 5: just happy that my sister in law was putting herself

642
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 5: out there again. The fact my wife didn't tell me

643
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 5: this the night we argued about it and was making

644
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 5: up a bunch of other bs is another frustrating situation,

645
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 5: But I don't want to get too far off topic here.

646
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 5: The reason this came up again is because my sister

647
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 5: in law and this guy went on another date this

648
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 5: past Friday.

649
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: There is a group chat with.

650
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Speaker 5: Me, my sister in law, mother in law, and my wife,

651
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 5: and the three of them have their own group chat.

652
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 5: My sister in law talked about it in their group chat,

653
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 5: so I'm assuming she's still annoyed at me. So he

654
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 5: takes her out to dinner again, and this time apparently

655
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 5: he's being very flirty. Some context here, my sister in

656
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 5: law is not great at conversations, so I think what's

657
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 5: happening here is he's complimenting her and she's just saying thanks,

658
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 5: and the convos stops there.

659
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Speaker 1: This is relevant for the next part.

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Speaker 5: Her hand was on the table and the guy put

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Speaker 5: his hand on hers, which she pulled back and took

662
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Speaker 5: her hand off the table. This was referred to as

663
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Speaker 5: him being too handsy in the chat.

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Speaker 1: Nah, girl, this.

665
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,719
Speaker 5: Is just when you're like, if you're physically repulsed by

666
00:30:58,760 --> 00:30:59,959
Speaker 5: the guy you're seeing, you should leave.

667
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, not the vibe.

668
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 5: He apologized and she said it was fine. I don't

669
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 5: think she told him why she reacted like that. There's

670
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Speaker 5: a little bit more story here.

671
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Speaker 1: This guy's missing the whole point of her going on

672
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: this date, the point she's putting herself back out there

673
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: after being with someone for a pretty good bit, and

674
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 1: she's figuring out the ropes. It's sort of like watching

675
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 1: a kid be on a bicycle. They're gonna fall, they're

676
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 1: gonna get hurt. But he's like, no, no, no, put training

677
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: rules on. You're wearing that helmet wrong. You actually need

678
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: to wear this shirt instead of that shirt.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I think it's less of like that and

680
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 5: more like he's coming from a place that's relevant, Like

681
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Speaker 5: his wife and the mother in law like agree with him,

682
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 5: but it was about the way he went about it,

683
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 5: which is like calling her out at dinner and being

684
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 5: like he doesn't deserve that. It should be more of

685
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 5: like a what do you want and what do you

686
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 5: actually deserve? You deserve a guy that you actually have

687
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Speaker 5: a connection with beyond just someone who has money. That's

688
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 5: a very empty, hollow connection mm hmm. And it's like, yeah,

689
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Speaker 5: just because there are people who date like that doesn't

690
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 5: mean that it's like the right way to go about

691
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 5: it or that it's pot you know. And so instead

692
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 5: of like putting it on like a you're doing a

693
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 5: bad thing and you should feel bad for being bad,

694
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 5: it's like, of course, it's it's your wife's sister, Like

695
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 5: she's gonna stick up for her sister even when she

696
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 5: agrees with you.

697
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Speaker 1: Just stick up for your sister in law. My dude,

698
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 1: why are we worried about this guy's feelings? Do you

699
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: want to date them? Are you trying to go to

700
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: date with them? That's the issue. You just nailed it.

701
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 5: It's that it feels like you care more about the

702
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 5: random Tinder guy than about the sister in law.

703
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Speaker 1: All right, let's finish this story.

704
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Speaker 5: The rest of the date went normal, I suppose after that,

705
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 5: and when he dropped her off at home, he didn't

706
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Speaker 5: get out of the car and walk her to the

707
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 5: front door. He just said bye and left. He had

708
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 5: walked her to the front door the first two times.

709
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 5: The next day, he texted her and apologized again for

710
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 5: being too forward with her. She did respond, and she

711
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 5: told my wife and mother in law that she's not

712
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 5: going to see him anymore. My wife is of the

713
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 5: belief she's just upset right now and she might change

714
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 5: her mind in a couple of days.

715
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Speaker 1: What.

716
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Speaker 5: That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. She's just she

717
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 5: doesn't like this guy. She's ghosting him. If she's moving on,

718
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 5: I would counsel her, yea, not to go back to

719
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 5: this guy. So you clearly don't like him. So this

720
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 5: saga has seemingly reached its end. I am all but

721
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 5: certain I'm secretly being blamed for this because I open

722
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 5: my mouth, which is whatever, No, you're not, you're stop it.

723
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, stop overthinking, dude.

724
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 5: I'm not a mind reader, so I had no way

725
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 5: of knowing how my wife and mother in law felt

726
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 5: at the time we all heard her logic for continuing

727
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 5: the relationship. I'm very aware she's super sensitive and does

728
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 5: not take any form of detraction or criticism. Well, but

729
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 5: there are just some subjects people need to hear straight up,

730
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 5: and I believe this is.

731
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Speaker 1: One of them.

732
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 5: No, dude, you're believing it wrong. Yeah, you need to

733
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 5: when it's your broski or when it's someone who's not,

734
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 5: I don't know, directly related to your wife.

735
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Speaker 1: Maybe you can be a little more heavy handed, fired

736
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: better execution on your part. It doesn't seem like you

737
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 1: have a that kind of relationship with a system law either. Well,

738
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,439
Speaker 1: it's like like if I was close to my sister

739
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 1: in law, like, girl, are you just aftering for his money?

740
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: Were you doing not right? Sister laws? He's introverted, takes

741
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 1: a little bit time to warm up to not engaging

742
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 1: into the dating thing. But she's not super comfortable with it.

743
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: But she's putting herself out there and you're coming out

744
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: there with Uh, you shouldn't liked it for his money.

745
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 1: You pulled away from him, and you should have told

746
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: him why boo boo boy.

747
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 5: Well he didn't say that to her. All that was

748
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 5: secondhand from the wife. That's true, but then he was

749
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 5: feeling that. Yeah, but it's it is true that she

750
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 5: said at the table, She's like, I'm only going to

751
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,320
Speaker 5: try to make this work because his money.

752
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 1: She said that at dinner, And it's.

753
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Speaker 6: Crazy that both your mother in law and your wife

754
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 6: agreed with your position, but you clearly executed it so

755
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 6: poorly that they had to be like, whoa dude, mind

756
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 6: your own business, because it's like, you can't go from

757
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 6: a place of shame.

758
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 5: It felt like you were just trying to shame her. Yeah,

759
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 5: weird mentor not shame mentor shit friendship.

760
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Speaker 1: Yeah, anyways, we got another freaking story for you, guys,

761
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 1: we do. It's coming right up. Hey, it's Sam. We're

762
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Speaker 1: gonna get back to these stories.

763
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Speaker 6: But here's three bits of ads from our sponsors that

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Speaker 3: I still invited my ex sister in law despite my

766
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 3: in law's wishes.

767
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: Man forget them in laws.

768
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Speaker 3: Trigger warning emotional and mental abuse, and Ope says keep

769
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Speaker 3: in mind, I am a thirty five female, am usually

770
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 3: not one to speak up. I'm a fellow introvert, recovering

771
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,280
Speaker 3: people pleaser with a little anxiety when it comes to conflict.

772
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong, I love drama as long as

773
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 3: it's not my own. I just like to sit on

774
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 3: the side and observe while eating popcorn.

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Speaker 1: Just like us.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. By the way, this comes from Imaginary Resists seventy

777
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Speaker 3: four on the r slash Charlotte do Bray YouTube subred it,

778
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Speaker 3: and if you want to submit your own stories, go

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Speaker 3: to the r slash Okay Storytime subret it. I'm Sophia,

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Speaker 3: I'm Riley, and Ope says I'm I met my husband

781
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 3: thirty six male, let's call him Dan when we were teenagers,

782
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 3: and we have been together since we were eighteen and nineteen,

783
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 3: so we kind of grew up together. We lived three

784
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 3: hours and a toll road apart back then, so he

785
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 3: moved in with me pretty quickly. He's the middle child

786
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,439
Speaker 3: of a bunch of six siblings. It has always been

787
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 3: kind of an issue for one of his elder brothers,

788
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:25,280
Speaker 3: now forty one male, let's call him Luke, that I

789
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 3: stole his little brother and moved him far away from him. Bruh,

790
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 3: that's so weird.

791
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: It is weird.

792
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 3: Your siblings can move.

793
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: They can do that. They can move to New York

794
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 1: to get away from you. It's fine.

795
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 3: For all this time, Luke has had some kind of

796
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:45,760
Speaker 3: anger issues. No they can't move. Wait, editor put.

797
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,280
Speaker 1: A delay response on Sophia.

798
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:53,320
Speaker 3: No they can't move. I'm up with Luke come back

799
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 3: and has had this kind of know it all attitude

800
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 3: towards me and my husband. I always felt like he

801
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 3: didn't like me. Luke met his now ex wife now

802
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,760
Speaker 3: thirty four female, let's call her Mary in twenty eleven,

803
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 3: around the same time I got pregnant with our first child.

804
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 3: She got pregnant pretty fast too, by accident. Our daughters

805
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 3: were born two months apart in twenty twelve. My husband

806
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 3: and I have been struggling for years with school, different jobs,

807
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 3: health issues, money, et cetera. We have had our ups

808
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,240
Speaker 3: and downs, like most couples do. We rented an apartment

809
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,720
Speaker 3: for ten years. Money was always tight up until twenty

810
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 3: twenty one. By this time we now had two daughters.

811
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 3: I finished my degree in social education. We both got

812
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:38,720
Speaker 3: decent jobs, a car, and started saving for our first house. Okay,

813
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,959
Speaker 3: and in the meantime, Luke and Mary had got three

814
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 3: kids in total, a house and a car, well paid jobs,

815
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 3: some insurance money, et cetera, and their own personal issues.

816
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Speaker 1: As well, But it sounds like, Ohpe's got it figured out.

817
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,839
Speaker 3: Po Well, Luke always flashed his money like he had

818
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 3: a money tree in his backyard or something. Or let's

819
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,280
Speaker 3: call it dirty money. Dan call Luke out.

820
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 1: Uh oh, you never learn how to clean it?

821
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know he has done some illegal crap. He's

822
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 3: always rubbed it in Dan's face. How he should have

823
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,879
Speaker 3: lived his life in a different way so money would

824
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:13,919
Speaker 3: come faster.

825
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.

826
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 3: Or that he should move closer to him so they

827
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 3: could work together and make some dirty money. Is he

828
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 3: saying this?

829
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: I think so?

830
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 3: Is he calling your husband? I've been like, hey, you

831
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 3: want to make some dirty money? Why who does that?

832
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: Like, hey, let's go sell some fun drug some I

833
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 1: feel fun pugs.

834
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 3: I feel like he thinks he's in like pulp fiction.

835
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: Probably it is glorified within movies. But dude, so if

836
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: all you're chasing is money and materials.

837
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 3: It's not a good life.

838
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 1: Dude. I'm rich. I am.

839
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,839
Speaker 3: I went in love and friendship, just.

840
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: Like I was thinking today because someone that I know

841
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: is in a very beachy place, and I'm like, dude,

842
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 1: I'm also in a great place. Yeah, and I'm with

843
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: the great friends and great company. I'm rich exactly.

844
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 3: I agree you don't need money or material things to

845
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 3: come have good life. For Dan and I, it has

846
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:09,479
Speaker 3: never been about money. Happiness comes from spending time together, etc. Yeah,

847
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 3: that's a good mindset. At first, we only saw the

848
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 3: in laws on birthdays or special occasions, but over the

849
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 3: years we all grew closer to Mary. She has a

850
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 3: special bond with our middle daughter. For a little more context,

851
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 3: our differences show a lot through how we are raising

852
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 3: our children. I expect my children to behave in public,

853
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 3: treat their own belongings right, respect others privacy and belongings,

854
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 3: not talk back, eat what's being served, et cetera. I'm

855
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 3: not a strict parent. My kids just no boundaries. I

856
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 3: have studied children's development and work in some kind of

857
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 3: daycare in kindergarten. Luke and Mary's kids, on the other hand,

858
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 3: that's a whole other story. But I'm a professional and

859
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 3: tend to not mix work and others' personal life. Outside

860
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 3: of work, we finally bought our house in twenty twenty two.

861
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Speaker 3: It's a big house, bigger than Luke's. Uh oh julu.

862
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 1: Uh flex on them measurement off yeah, mind's bigger.

863
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 3: It's not about the size, op, It's about the happiness

864
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 3: that happens in your life.

865
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Speaker 1: So the frequency, what with the frequency?

866
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Speaker 3: Just don't compare?

867
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 1: Or is it more like the wave okay? Or is

868
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: it talk of the sailor?

869
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Speaker 3: So they would come visit us more often because we

870
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 3: have the space. We have chosen to live in a

871
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 3: cheaper part of the country so we can afford more

872
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 3: room for a family of five. And then along came

873
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:35,320
Speaker 3: our third and last pregnancy. This one was the hardest

874
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 3: for my body, and I suffered with pelvic joint pain

875
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 3: and some days I could hardly walk. Luke Mary and

876
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Speaker 3: the kids joined us for the Christmas holiday in twenty

877
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:47,919
Speaker 3: twenty two, and let me tell you, crap went downhill

878
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 3: from here. I was the one cooking and cleaning, picking

879
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 3: toys up from all over the house. While I was

880
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 3: in the kitchen, their two youngest kids had emptied several

881
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 3: boxes of toys on the floor in the playroom and

882
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 3: they start throwing them around, trying to aim at a

883
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,800
Speaker 3: picture frame on the wall. This was the very first

884
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 3: time I said something about how to behave as a

885
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 3: guest in my house. But this didn't suit Luke. His

886
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 3: mood dropped instantly, and I heard him tell his middle

887
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 3: child that he knew I was lying and that he

888
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 3: didn't have to clean up after himself.

889
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 1: What okay lying about?

890
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 3: What?

891
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: Uh? You can go now bye?

892
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. Luke was like, hey, kid, get over here. Oh,

893
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 3: he's totally lying about throwing things in the house. She

894
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 3: actually wants you to behave like that. Do it, little

895
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:35,320
Speaker 3: devil on his shoulder.

896
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: That makes no sense.

897
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 3: Mary ended up picking up after them. They left early

898
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 3: the next morning. In February, we visited them for two

899
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,320
Speaker 3: of their children's birthday party. Luke was in a bad

900
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 3: mood and in the middle of the party he fell

901
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 3: asleep on the couch. My husband and one of his

902
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 3: other brothers went for a short drive. When they got back,

903
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 3: Luke had woken up and threw a temper tantrum at

904
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 3: his brother's and told them to get out of his house.

905
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 3: He was screaming in their faces. We all left by that. Yikes.

906
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 3: By spring twenty twenty three, our third daughter was born

907
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,359
Speaker 3: and they came to visit us again. Well, I'm sorry,

908
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 3: he's screaming in people's faces. I don't think that would

909
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 3: necessarily have to be like you never see him again.

910
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,760
Speaker 3: But it doesn't even seem like they had a conversation,

911
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 3: Like I wouldn't go see him again if there was

912
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 3: no conversation in apology.

913
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,439
Speaker 1: They did have a conversation, not after that, not after

914
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 1: the screen. Well, don't you remember it was a very

915
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: one way one side.

916
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 3: Is Yeah, it was just him yell loud.

917
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a conversation.

918
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 3: Yeah. That was the only time they talked about that

919
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,280
Speaker 3: screaming match was when it was happening.

920
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 1: Yikes.

921
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 3: I would I mean go back if they didn't have

922
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 3: at least, like, you know, demanded an apology.

923
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 1: Well, we already kind of know how Luke feels about

924
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 1: all this, and he's kind of mindset. If he's making

925
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: this kind of money on the side, do you think

926
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,240
Speaker 1: his home life is the opposite?

927
00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:58,399
Speaker 3: Yeah? I don't.

928
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 1: What do you think if he's making dirty money on

929
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,320
Speaker 1: the side or as a job, is his home life

930
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 1: also going to be like the best thing ever?

931
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 3: No? I agree, But I'm just saying, like, why would like,

932
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 3: why would they go visit you know, let them visit it?

933
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 1: Care got it?

934
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 3: Okay? I knew they were having trouble in their marriage,

935
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,839
Speaker 3: and I wanted Mary to stay family even if they

936
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 3: decided to split up, So I asked her to be

937
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 3: the godmother to our youngest daughter. To be fair to

938
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 3: my brother in law, we also asked him, Oh, you

939
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:30,240
Speaker 3: don't have to be fair godparents.

940
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 1: You This isn't t ball where everyone gets a participation

941
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 1: at wards.

942
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't personally know my godmother.

943
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 1: Oh, and you know you don't have to mind Jordan's alive.

944
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 3: Sometimes you gotta pick people who are like, you know,

945
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 3: but you're close to both of them.

946
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

947
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 1: I don't think my godfather knows he's my godfather to

948
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:50,280
Speaker 1: talk to him.

949
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 3: On the day when the baptisms took place. We also

950
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 3: at a surprise wedding we finally got married. Okay, congratulations,

951
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 3: Wait what op I guess op and Opie's partner just

952
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 3: got married.

953
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 1: Surprisedly, Yeah, time out.

954
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 3: I think they were like at the church and they

955
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 3: were like, hey, we're already here.

956
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,919
Speaker 1: Hear me out? Yeah, plan the proposal, surprise wedding. Hey,

957
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,439
Speaker 1: we're gonna get proposal on this day. But you don't

958
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 1: know when I'm gonna marry you.

959
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,439
Speaker 3: Oh, you never know, you never know.

960
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: What do you think about that?

961
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 3: I would hate that because I would want to well, personally,

962
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 3: I would want to plan the wedding.

963
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,240
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, okay, yes, we'll say everything a person

964
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: who like everything's already planned. Yeah, all that stuff's good

965
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,479
Speaker 1: to go. All you do is just live your life,

966
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,720
Speaker 1: and at any given moment, you're handed a white dress

967
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:39,280
Speaker 1: and you just gotta get going.

968
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 3: Someone better be there to like do my hair.

969
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're already, like you're eighty percent of the way there,

970
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 1: Like at any moment, you're already at eighty percent.

971
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 3: Okay, maybe I think we should make that aff We

972
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 3: could pitch it to take the stress out of wedding planning. Yeah,

973
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 3: someone else plans it and you don't know about it.

974
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 1: And you put more emphasis on the proposal, and you

975
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,959
Speaker 1: spend one hundreds of thousand dollars or like thousand dollars

976
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: in the proposal, one.

977
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 3: Hundreds of thousands of dollars.

978
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 1: I mean, if you want, if you got that.

979
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 3: Kind of cash and that money on weddings.

980
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: You haven't been to a lot of weddings, you said

981
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 1: I have, Now you haven't haven't been to one where

982
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:13,879
Speaker 1: they spend on hundreds of thousand dollars.

983
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 3: Because I'm not friends with billionaires.

984
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 1: Millionaires, Yeah, millionaire, doctors, lawyers. You need to work on

985
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: your network.

986
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 3: Sofia, no one knew except my grandparents, whom we only

987
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 3: told because they live outside the country and we only

988
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,800
Speaker 3: invited our immediate family. I hate the attention and wanted

989
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,879
Speaker 3: the day to be about our daughter, not us. Luke

990
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 3: showed up at the church with his children. No Mary.

991
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,839
Speaker 3: He had told her to stay home. He didn't want

992
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 3: her to be a part of his family.

993
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 1: His wife sounds like it. They don't like over it. Hey,

994
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: it's John here. We're gonna get back to the stories.

995
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: Put a quick three minute ad break from our sponsors

996
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 1: that keep the show going.

997
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 3: Afterwards, we had a little celebration at our house with

998
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 3: the three course menu, and my husband surprised me with

999
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 3: the speech and a toast. Meanwhile, Luke made the whole

1000
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 3: day about him. He cried like a little girl in

1001
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 3: the church during the food, the speech, everything. He made

1002
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 3: sure he got sympathy from everyone in my family, even

1003
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:13,879
Speaker 3: my grandmother. Since then, she's always asking about him when

1004
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:17,320
Speaker 3: we talk. We've only seen Luke and Mary a couple

1005
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 3: of times since that day. Their relationship has been going downhill.

1006
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 3: Since then. They have been accusing each other of violence, harmflax, booze, substance,

1007
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 3: you name it. Oh. Police have been at their house

1008
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 3: several times. She finally moved out of the house before

1009
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 3: last Christmas, but the mental abuse kept going. He is

1010
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 3: accusing her of manipulating everyone to believe that he is

1011
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 3: having a drinking problem. In hindsight, there have always been

1012
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 3: signs of harmful mental acts by him. There have been

1013
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 3: times when he asked her to go to bed so

1014
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 3: that he could spend time with his brother. What he's

1015
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 3: telling an adult to go to bed so he can

1016
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 3: spend time with his brother. You can do that. She

1017
00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 3: doesn't have to go to bed.

1018
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 1: She probably doesn't know that's an option if she's in

1019
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 1: this mind warp of a relationship razy.

1020
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 3: It's always been at times when her and I had

1021
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 3: fun playing games and sipping a little wine after the

1022
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 3: kids were to put to bed, But at the same

1023
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 3: time he has been drinking several bottles of red wine

1024
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 3: while we shared one or two when one of us

1025
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 3: was pregnant, he was the one drinking. Ooh, I would

1026
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 3: just not be around these people, Like, why isn't the

1027
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:24,800
Speaker 3: husband calling his brother out for this behavior?

1028
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 1: That is weird. There's that aspect. Family's family. Yeah, but

1029
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 1: like there's a point where your family needs to be

1030
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 1: in time out.

1031
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 3: You need to calm out. A few weeks ago, he

1032
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:40,760
Speaker 3: showed his true colors and crap went down. It seems

1033
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 3: like his true colors were pretty real gray. Yeah. I

1034
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 3: miss Mary. I was never ready to lose her as

1035
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 3: a sister in law or as a friend. Mary misses

1036
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,879
Speaker 3: our daughters and they miss her. Their children miss Dan.

1037
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 3: Everyone misses everyone except Luke. No one misses him. Everyone

1038
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 3: hates the negative tension around him. So I invited Mary

1039
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 3: over for a weekend. She would bring the two youngest boys. Unfortunately,

1040
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 3: the boys got sick and they didn't come. The middle

1041
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 3: boy went to spend some time with his father and

1042
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 3: told him about the trip, and let me tell you,

1043
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 3: he was mad. He was livid. He started blowing Mary's

1044
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 3: phone out with calls and messages, then my husband's phone,

1045
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 3: telling him to never speak to him again. My husband

1046
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 3: had nothing to do with it. So I sent a

1047
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 3: message to Luke. I told him he could be mad

1048
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 3: at me, not Dan, and not Mary, and that he

1049
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 3: could just have asked about it and I would have explained.

1050
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,359
Speaker 3: I added that he could call me and I would

1051
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 3: tell him what was going on. Luke simply replied that

1052
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:42,879
Speaker 3: he had nothing more to.

1053
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 1: Share to me.

1054
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 3: Fair enough, I answered. The next hour, he's probably drinking

1055
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 3: even more and is still blowing his anger out on

1056
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 3: Mary by text. Then he starts messaging me again. He

1057
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 3: tells me he wants to be removed as a godfather

1058
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 3: to my children and that he will contact the church

1059
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 3: on Monday. Be prepared he has. I replied that I

1060
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 3: can do it for him if it's possible, and besides,

1061
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 3: I remind him that he is only godfather to one

1062
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 3: of them.

1063
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 1: Hmmm.

1064
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 3: I start googling if it's possible, then message again and

1065
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 3: I'm sorry it can't be done. Unfortunately weird.

1066
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: So my question getting rid of Godfather writes what does

1067
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 1: it even do?

1068
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 3: Nothing? That's why it's so stupid. It's literally like a

1069
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 3: symbolic title like yes, there are like technically in the

1070
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 3: eyes of the church rolls that you're trying to fulfill

1071
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 3: and like you're trying to guide your child in the

1072
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 3: ways of okay, the religion, but like effectively it does nothing.

1073
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 3: You don't need to like say, remove me is God?

1074
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 3: Like there's no you know, form.

1075
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:48,359
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1076
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 3: Culture Church was probably like, he just doesn't have to

1077
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 3: be there.

1078
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 1: You're released. What else are we supposed to say?

1079
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like if you got like a degree in

1080
00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 3: something and then you were like, I don't want to

1081
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 3: be a don't make it. You like, get rid of

1082
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:04,799
Speaker 3: my degree, they'd be like, you don't have to be

1083
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 3: a lawyer. Just don't be a lawyer.

1084
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 1: Don't do it.

1085
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:10,760
Speaker 3: We're not gonna take away your degree. You just don't

1086
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 3: do it, he fires back. If you anna, I hope

1087
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 3: you're proud of yourself. But there is a little bit

1088
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 3: left to this story. Do any final thoughts.

1089
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 1: This is so ridiculous.

1090
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 3: This is ridiculous.

1091
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 1: This is a waste of our time and your time too,

1092
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,720
Speaker 1: just audacitating them. Yeah.

1093
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 3: Literally, I would go load to no contacts. If he

1094
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 3: reaches out and is apologetic, maybe we can figure that out.

1095
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:36,919
Speaker 3: But like right now, I feel like you guys keep

1096
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 3: giving him chances when he hasn't apologized for any of

1097
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,839
Speaker 3: his baby Yeah, it's weird, but there is a little

1098
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:47,280
Speaker 3: bit left to this story. I answer, the world doesn't

1099
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 3: revolve around you, Luke, seek some help before you burn

1100
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 3: any more bridges. I have done nothing wrong. Towards you,

1101
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 3: but keep your frustrations coming at me. I have wide shoulders.

1102
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 3: I can handle it. Nice. He responds. I will know

1103
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,320
Speaker 3: ever set my feet at your house again. This bridge

1104
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 3: could never be rebuilt again. Fine, I reply, and he

1105
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 3: finishes with the thumbs up. I'd be like, day, goodness,

1106
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:11,240
Speaker 3: the please don't come back.

1107
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 1: Please don't. I don't you promise, No, you don't. You

1108
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: don't really mean it, do you know?

1109
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 3: After that day, Luke told Mary to never bring his

1110
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 3: children to visit us. You can't really well, I guess

1111
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 3: they're still together.

1112
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:28,839
Speaker 1: They are rough, probably will be for a little bit.

1113
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 3: That's the crazy thing. Like they're still together, and he's

1114
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 3: mad that OPI is reaching out to hang out with

1115
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 3: his wife, Like it's not even like, oh, you know,

1116
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 3: we're getting divorced. Why are you hanging out with my eggs?

1117
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, in a household like that, something probably happened. And

1118
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 1: he's getting a clue that she's going to say something

1119
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 1: to her.

1120
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 3: I mean he's trying, and he is, yeah, isolating her.

1121
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:56,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1122
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 3: Dan doesn't give a flying f about Luke. He grew

1123
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 3: up with this behavior and has been tolerating it because

1124
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:04,240
Speaker 3: of Mary and the children. He hasn't talked to Luke again.

1125
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 3: Now I need you to tell me, am I the

1126
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 3: aole for inviting my ex sister in law to come

1127
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 3: visit us.

1128
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: Uh no, no, And I.

1129
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 3: Think you should keep reaching out to her regardless of

1130
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,760
Speaker 3: what Luke says, because she needs a friend.

1131
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:19,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, make sure she's doing alright.

1132
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 3: That's not great situation for anyone. Yeah, but that is

1133
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 3: the end of the story and the end of the episode. Yes,

1134
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Speaker 3: So if you love us, make sure to subscribe We

1135
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Speaker 3: Love You and

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Speaker 1: See it tomorrow.