1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: This is John, this is them Okay Storytime podcast hosts, 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: and we have some good story's coming up for you. 3 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: That's right. But before that, we have a little more 4 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: sol of a two minute at break from the sponsors 5 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: keeping the show delicious. Hmmm, I found my wife spicy 6 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: photo with a male model. 7 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 2: Sounds like it's time to move on. 8 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 1: Oh goodness. Well, this is such a complicated issue, so 9 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: I will do my best to make it complete. But short, 10 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: my wife is great friends with one of our city's 11 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,559 Speaker 1: high end wedding photographers named Gina sixties or so. She 12 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: is supremely talented and also a nice person. We've got 13 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: huge discounts on everything from wedding to baby family pictures. 14 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: By the way, this comes from Mike twelve and if 15 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: you want us to make your own stories, go to 16 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: the r slash Okay Storytime cebreddits. So, my wife recently 17 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: lost all her baby weight and became really fit by 18 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: following a low carb diet and doing a natural movement 19 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: workout plan. 20 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 2: How natural is this? 21 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: It is hunting and for a we find, we hunt, 22 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: we pick, we eat. 23 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 2: Ah. 24 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: Yes, that's your dream diet right there. It really went wrong. 25 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 2: Anything you can find outside and you can actually eat it. 26 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 2: Do you know how many squirrels I'd be eating? So 27 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 2: many squirrels are around here. No, Riley, you can't touch them. 28 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 1: That's correct, go back home for that. Gina asked her 29 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: to come to do a boudoir shoot for her so 30 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: she could put my wife's pictures on her website as 31 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 1: an example of a fit and sexy mom. And by 32 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: the way, a boudoir shoot is kind of like a. 33 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 3: It's like a saloon photo shoot. 34 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 2: You know, something you would do with your mom. I've 35 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 2: seen so many people do with their moms. They're like, 36 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 2: oh my gosh, me my mom, just do this. 37 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 3: Look. 38 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, that's fun. 39 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 1: We had many, many discussions, and I was all for 40 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: it right from the beginning because it's hot. My wife 41 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: was worried about employers, friends and family seeing them, but 42 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: eventually she figured she'd worked hard, there would be no 43 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: nudity and what back, why not. It's very important to 44 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: know that. We talked about this nightly for at least 45 00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: a week and went over everything eventually, and I thought 46 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: everything was on the table. 47 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 2: Everyone's saying, no, you don't do it with your mom. 48 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying I think it's a more 49 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: I don't think this is like a fun little cowboy shoe. 50 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: I think this is a more risque. 51 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, what is that then, because I see they're like 52 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 2: the cowboy shoots and then the mom has like. 53 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 3: That's so different, my guy, what is it gold? That's 54 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 3: a totally different thing. Well, that's what's maybe a saloon 55 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 3: photo or something. I don't know, like, yeah, I mean, 56 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 3: I don't know if the official name of it, but yeah, 57 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 3: I think this is a little more, a little more risque. 58 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: Don't do this with your mom. Don't watch the move. 59 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 1: Not the move, ladies and gentlemen. So the pictures are stunning. 60 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: Gina hired a spectacular makeup artist, and my wife looks 61 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 1: like a supermodel. I mean, they are spectacular pictures. Minimal 62 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 1: photoshop too. When the picks went up on the site, 63 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: Gina sent me a very classy hardbound book of the 64 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: pictures with a note, thank you for being so cool 65 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: with this. It's one of my favorite things have ever done. 66 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: That's a very sweet, thoughtful. 67 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 2: Touch, and I wish it would end here. 68 00:02:55,760 --> 00:03:00,519 Speaker 1: Oh no, Riley, the story is not even ten percent over. Literally, 69 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: so much left to go. He's gonna like open the 70 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 1: next page. It's gonna be like man doing whatever here. 71 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 3: I'll find you, guys an example to give you. 72 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 2: Guys, can you show everyone or just us? Okay, we're 73 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 2: about to get pictures of what this is. Everyone like, 74 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 2: we all don't have never seen anything like this before. 75 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: I've never heard of boudoir shoot in my life. 76 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 77 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 3: Oh okay, that's as safe as you can get. 78 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 2: I'm a little bothered looking at it exactly. This is 79 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:33,679 Speaker 2: not a yeah, not to do it with your mom. 80 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Auntie PSA, please, No, he put it on there. 81 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 2: Everyone telling he put it on there. 82 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: Okay. So getting back to the story here. Important to 83 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: note on the timeline here. Picks were taken in May. 84 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: Picks went on the website in late June. I got 85 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: the book this week. My wife is out of town 86 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: with the baby to visit her mom and dad. Late Wednesday, 87 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: I got an email from Gina which basically said, happy 88 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: fourth of July. I wanted you to go through these 89 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: digital proofs to if there's any others you'd like. It 90 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: was actually a link to a secure site where I 91 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: have a username and password. So I logged in and 92 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: all of the first series of pictures were variations on 93 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: ones I'd already seen, lingerie, implied nude, jim ware and 94 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 1: the like as we now know. Then it got into 95 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: a series of full nude pics, which I was like, awesome, 96 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: why didn't these make it into my book? And when 97 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: I clicked on the next page, I can clearly see 98 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: that in the thumbnails there were two other people there. 99 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 1: I opened one, and it's my wife in a sort 100 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: of embrace that looked like the cover of a romance novel. 101 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,799 Speaker 1: This guy looked like a model and was super ripped. 102 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: So basically it seems like I think they're both naked 103 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: and it's a you know, strong muscular man and she's like, 104 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 1: oh my goodness, hello, and he's like, what's up, baby girl? 105 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 2: I got you and is good enough to be in 106 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 2: front of a romance model novel? A romance novel. 107 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 1: That's what the fabio like. We're dealing with a straight 108 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 1: fabio type situation over here, dude. 109 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 2: And she did not tell Hubby about this. 110 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: It was not a explicit it was like, hey, there's 111 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: gonna be shoot, it's it's boudoir. It's like, you know, 112 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: risque or whatever. Yeah, he got photos. He did not 113 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 1: get this photo hot take, cheating, cheating, cheating, I don't know. 114 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 1: I think this is just listen, I'll explain it more. 115 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: There's some there's some people that be doing some dances 116 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:19,359 Speaker 1: and yeah, I agree. 117 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, the perception of this if I saw this, if 118 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 2: let's say, like you know whatever, I see this on 119 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 2: a romance novel, I'm like, oh, that's my friend and 120 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:31,119 Speaker 2: that's not her boyfriend. That's crazy. That looks different because 121 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 2: like that just perceives as like she's not with a partner. 122 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 2: Also in the context like why did she not tell 123 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 2: this to hubby? 124 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: That's I think the issue that were That's the big 125 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: ICU I think we're about to get into, is like, Hey, 126 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 1: there was all of this communication and all this stuff, 127 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 1: why was this photo A not like giving me the 128 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 1: heads up before the shoot? 129 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 2: Yeah? And B why didn't I know about it after 130 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 2: hiding it? You know, it seems like the perception just 131 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 2: looks really off. Yeah, all of the evidence except the 132 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 2: one that you don't want. That's what it seems like. 133 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 2: But we're gonna see. 134 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 1: So with these I was like, okay, but with all 135 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 1: the discussions we had, why didn't she say there was 136 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: going to be a guy there. I'd say that the 137 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: series is fifty pictures long, with each one getting more 138 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: and more. Riscie, my wife ends up going from a 139 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: business like suit to just her panties. The guy has 140 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: his underwear on and all of them so it wasn't 141 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: both nude, just to just to be clear. He's laying 142 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 1: on top of her to look like he's kissing her neck. 143 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 1: His hands are definitely on her front airbags. Oh man, 144 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: he's holding her from behind with his hand just out 145 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: of shot, and it's implied that he's touching her crush. 146 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 2: Okay, I would like stuff. I would like a pull 147 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 2: after hearing more, John, where are you? 148 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 1: I mean, this is definitely like you needed explicit, explicit, 149 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: explicit consent, and like, Yo, this is what's going to 150 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: happen before you go into it. This is like, this 151 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: is too far. 152 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 2: I feel like it's a form of cheating, not break 153 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 2: up cheating. 154 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 1: Oh I see what you're saying. You're saying I thought 155 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: at first I thought you were saying, like, oh, she's 156 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: like hooking up at this guy. Oh no, no, no, no no, 157 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 1: you're saying that this kind of thing is cheating. 158 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a mistrust, like I am gonna have 159 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 2: a hard time trusting you now. Cheating is like here, 160 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 2: and then this is like here level of trust. What 161 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 2: if your girlfriend did this? 162 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: It's I mean, I know, I like, like personally, when 163 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: I want my my girlfriend doing this, absolutely not. 164 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 2: When she did do this and not tell you about it. 165 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 2: When you feel like it's cheating, I wouldn't call it. 166 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: I don't know if cheating is the right word of 167 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: the word I would use here. But it is like 168 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: think about actors. Actors literally like hook up. Well, yeah, 169 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: but that's like, hey, babe, I just got this movie. 170 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: There's the icy sleep seeing that's the see that's and 171 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: I think that's the difference where it's like at least 172 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: it's like well and like the actors obviously fully know, 173 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: and I'm sure it's a conversation and like if you 174 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: marry an actor, it's like you kind of know. Honestly, 175 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: I've always been like, dude, how do actors and actors 176 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: partners do that? Like it's I I don't know how 177 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: they could do that. 178 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 3: The best example of that was Fifty Shades, Like the 179 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 3: main actor his wife hated it, she like legit hated it. Yeah, 180 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 3: Like I saw like a thing. She's like, okay, maybe 181 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 3: I'll like we talked about it. I was okay with it, 182 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 3: and then she saw the first film and she's like, 183 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 3: well that was a lot, and I didn't like, yeah, yeah, 184 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 3: one hundred percent. We also have a pull up cheating 185 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 3: or naw that Kean just put up. Yeah, I don't know, 186 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 3: ke On, what do you? 187 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: What do you think? What's your vote? I know if Carly. 188 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 3: Asked me and told me like all like, hey, this, 189 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 3: this is this is gonna happen, I will have to 190 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 3: do a shoot with this person. I would have to 191 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 3: meet the person first, Like I would meet this guy, like, 192 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,959 Speaker 3: what's his notion? If it's just professional work? Still if 193 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 3: he yes, I'm still very iffy. If she did behind 194 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 3: my back, I'm I'm upset. 195 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm upset. And I think I would be like, hey, 196 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: I'm not comfortable with this. You know what do you think? 197 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 2: I got some people on my side. All right, we're 198 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 2: we're gonna get back into the store. 199 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 1: We might get more details too, So okay, that might 200 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: that might grow your cheating your cheating up. But guys, 201 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: if your vote is cheat, comment below, why yes, let 202 00:08:56,679 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 1: us know Riley is trying to rally his troop. Okay, so, 203 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: by far the worst is the very last picture, where 204 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: it's just a picture of her butt with his face 205 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:11,839 Speaker 1: and the top of her thong in his teeth, sort 206 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: of pulling it away from her body. I looked at 207 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: the pictures absolutely stunned for thirty minutes. That's lot, dude. 208 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: I emailed Gina the photographer, saying, basically, Gina, what is this? 209 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 1: This is way more than I thought it was going 210 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: to be. She has not replied, and I tried to 211 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: log back in and my password has been changed. Okay, 212 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: now it seems like a cover up. Gina won't send 213 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: me another one. So I tried to call my wife, 214 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: but she hasn't answered and says she's too busy to talk. 215 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 1: I texted I had questions and about what went on 216 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 1: on the photo shoot, and she replied at first sexiness 217 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: you like, are you liking at sexy? I don't think 218 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: he likes it. 219 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 2: H yeah, hot take, don't think he likes it. 220 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: I don't think he likes it. Now she's not responding 221 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: at all. So my guess is Gina told her about 222 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: the slip up and she doesn't know what to tell me. 223 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: So she's not kidding me getting either, She's pro come on, 224 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,559 Speaker 1: it's China. It seems like a you know, a coerce 225 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: attempt to you know so bad. Yeah, I'm lost, like 226 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: literally lost. My wife has so many chances to tell 227 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 1: me that that that was a plan. If it was 228 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: that all along, I don't even think I would have 229 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: said an outright no, but just asked for some boundaries 230 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: like don't have the guy's lips near your butt or 231 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: second base. If my wife didn't know and Gina sprung 232 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 1: this on her, why didn't she say no or even 233 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: enforce her own boundaries? It looks like she was having 234 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: a great time in the picks. If these are the 235 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 1: ones Gina accidentally sent me, are there more do they get? 236 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: Like literal hardcore? My wife is probably panicking as well 237 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: right now, as I assume Gina is neither will speak 238 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: with me. Wife comes home Sunday morning. How do I 239 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: even begin to have this conversation with her? What do 240 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 1: I say when I see her and we have an update? 241 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 2: Yeah? 242 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: So what's the poll right now? Riley really wants to 243 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: break it. So the poll right now is thirty one percent? 244 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,080 Speaker 1: Sheeting sixty nine percent. Noah for Riley. We will do 245 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: another pole. We will do another pole. I will say Denise, Denise, 246 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: and the chat says it's soft corn. This absolutely is 247 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 1: soft corn. Yeah, I would say this is soft corn. 248 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 1: So the same pool, Riley. 249 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:13,719 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, let's see. 250 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: Let's see if Riley can get it this hour. Guys, 251 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 1: this is let's go. It's like we're running for offices 252 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: team now your team, you're team cheating. This is you're 253 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: still not I think like lips, but it could be. 254 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: Here's what it is. Squares and rectangles. Okay, a what 255 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: is it? A square is always a rectangle, A rector 256 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: dingle is not always a square? 257 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 2: Sorry. Squares and yeah, squares and rectangles. I thought you 258 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 2: said circles for a second. Oh my god, yes, yes, 259 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 2: you're right. 260 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: I mean, like, is this something I would want my 261 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: my girlfriend doing? Absolutely not? Is this soft corn? Absolutely yes? 262 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 1: Did she break his trust and now she's hiding it 263 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:52,439 Speaker 1: and is it bad? Absolutely yes? And right now Riley 264 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: has officially won the most winning cheating for president. Cheating 265 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,559 Speaker 1: is won by sixty two percent at least as of 266 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 1: right now. 267 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 2: It's just messed up. It's like hiding it and then 268 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 2: not want to talk about it. It just it's a 269 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 2: form of cheating. It's not like a form of cheating 270 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 2: where you can't come back from this, but a lot 271 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 2: of trust is going to have to be reworked. Yeah, 272 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 2: in order to be okay. 273 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think like and chat might flame me for this, 274 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: but think about like I think about like an emotional 275 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: affair where there's no spiciness involved, but where they've basically 276 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: checked out on your relationship, They've fully emotionally invested in 277 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: the other person and they like want to get with them. Like, 278 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if i'd say that's worse. I don't 279 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,559 Speaker 1: know if it's productive to compare them, but like that, 280 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: I would definitely consider like emotional cheating right where it's 281 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: like I don't know, honestly, I'm definitely more torn. You 282 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: might win me by the end of this By the 283 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: end of this episode, have you been swayed one way 284 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: or the other? 285 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,839 Speaker 3: I'm still indifferent. I still need to see what's going on. 286 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,839 Speaker 1: If you would like give the thumbs up to do it. 287 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: But if like, if you're in Opie's position now, like 288 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: seeing after the fact, does this do you think this 289 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 1: falls in the cheating category? Or is it more one 290 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: of the like lying to try. 291 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 3: I'm still like I gotta I feel like it's not 292 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 3: the cheating, Like I'm still not on board with cheating 293 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:12,319 Speaker 3: just yet because it's tasteful. Like that is again like 294 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 3: that's the line of work that you sign up for. 295 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, there are horn stars, yeah that are married that 296 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: do that. Yeah, but they've had a conversation, yeah, a 297 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: set exactly. The The whole big red flag here is like, 298 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: not only did they not tell them, but now it 299 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: seems they're intentionally didn't tell them and are totally trying 300 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: to cover it up. 301 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 2: MJ. Grove not cheating, but keeping secrets like that is 302 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 2: definitely not okay, A little bit down, Sorry, I'm going down, 303 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 2: okay right here. Red bull Rana says, why the deliberate 304 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 2: hit this because she knew her husband would not be 305 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 2: okay with this? Also go down a little bit more. Yeah, 306 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 2: and someone else said snorty and Catnip says, remember they 307 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 2: spent a week every night talking about it and she 308 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 2: did not bring it up once. 309 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 1: I mean again, she's in the wrong here, Like there's 310 00:13:56,679 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 1: in my opinion, there's like no questionable doubt that she 311 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: is absolutely in the wrong with what she did. 312 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 3: Again, it could be the potential that maybe the photographer 313 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,439 Speaker 3: brought the model in, like we don't know. 314 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:12,199 Speaker 1: But yeah, that she sprung an honor and the wife again, 315 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: like Opie said, she should have like spoken up and 316 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 1: said like hey, I'm not comfortable with this, but also 317 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: like her like springing the model on, and like I 318 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: don't know, maybe maybe the model did that and he didn't, 319 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: you know, ask, I don't know, but either way, like, 320 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: the one thing I think we can all for sure 321 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: agree upon is a wife is absolutely in the wrong 322 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: here and is like trying to cover it up. It's 323 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: a breach of trust. All of that jazz. This is 324 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: an interesting discussion. This is a really good, u really good, 325 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: really good topic. 326 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 2: I'm interested to hear her justification. 327 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 3: I want to hear what she says first, until I 328 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 3: put my eggs in one specific basket. 329 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: Well, we've got enough go So I've been getting tons 330 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: of different advice on the last post, so I guess 331 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: I will make this one as well and may get 332 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: ripped apart. Anyways, So I've been sweating this since I 333 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: first saw the pictures I wasn't supposed to see on Wednesday, 334 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: almost zero contact with my wife. We're not sure how 335 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: far out, but I'm guessing at least a day maybe, 336 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: which is crazy. Part of this was she was busy. 337 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: Part of it was because they were at a lake, 338 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: and part of it, she admits now, was because she 339 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: was avoiding the conversation. 340 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 2: Wait, who's they good question? 341 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: I don't know. She was busy at a lake with 342 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: who that's the question. Hopefully we get that answered to. 343 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: So wife decided to come home early, so three hours 344 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: or so ago now, I got a call from her saying, 345 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: I'm on the way home. We have a lot of 346 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: talking to do. Can you please get us Jimmy John's 347 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: because I'm not stopping to eat and I'm already starving. 348 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: I was like, seriously, what the f but avoided the 349 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: temptation to get into it with her on the phone, 350 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: which I'm glad I did that. I got her sandwich. 351 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: She got home an hour later, and we put our 352 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: son to bed and then got into it as best 353 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: as I can. This is her side of the story. 354 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: We're getting the other side of the coin here playing 355 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: back the episode with the other character. So Gina again, 356 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: the photographer had mentioned that if my wife was interested 357 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: she would love to see how the shoot with another 358 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: friend of hers who was a guy went. Wife her 359 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: name is Nicki, said that she was not at all 360 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: interested because she was nervous enough about the boudoir and 361 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: fitness gear. She arrived, had a glass of white wine, relaxed, 362 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: did the makeup. She had a great time during the shoot. 363 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: My wife, Nicki is the one who suggested that she 364 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: would like to do the full nude stuff. Let me 365 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: let me just triple check. Yeah, wife, okay, yeah, yep. 366 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: So they did that. It went really well, and the 367 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: conversation came up that maybe she'd like to try shooting 368 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: with the male model. Nicki swears to me that he 369 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: was not present, but Gina was able to call him 370 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: and he was able to be there in an hour. 371 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: Nicki says it was a huge mistake not to call me, 372 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: but she said she was so in the moment that 373 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: she didn't consider all the ramifications. 374 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, there was an alcohol involve. 375 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I think to like, I mean, for short, 376 00:16:57,880 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: the biggest failures on the wife's part, because it's like 377 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: it's your relationship to your responsibility to like think of 378 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: and communicate these things. Failure on Gina's part because I'm like, dude, 379 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 1: why are you? It was already this, Like Gina knows 380 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: the communication that went into it, Like you think he 381 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: would just like automatically opt in without checking in with 382 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: him at all about it, Like had. 383 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 2: Bro on call too. She was like, I'm not interested 384 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 2: in that. Yeah, I had him on call, ready to go. 385 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 2: Who's there within the hour? 386 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, with in the hour. That's hm hmm, yeah, that's 387 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: like this this is fishy. So the dude shows up, 388 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 1: he's twenty two six', three amazing, build blah blah, blah nice. 389 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:38,120 Speaker 1: Size but my Wife nicki says he was an absolute, 390 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: professional so much so that all the fun she was 391 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: having with the solo stuff went out the window because 392 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:46,120 Speaker 1: the guy was literally like just a living. Mannequin when 393 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:49,199 Speaker 1: she was shooting, solo there was, dancing laughing, jokes but 394 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: with the, guy it was just like put your hand, 395 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: here hold. REPEAT i, SAID i saw one of the 396 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 1: pictures and it didn't look like that at. All she 397 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 1: said that there were probably also a few hundred of 398 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: her looking absolutely terrified and ashamed that didn't make it 399 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: to the. Proofs at this, POINT i demanded to see 400 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: all of the Pictures nikki logged into the secure site 401 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: and there they, were ten or so more past the original. Fifty, 402 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: basically it was like a sequence from the guy pulling 403 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: the underwear off with his, teeth to her turning, over 404 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:23,919 Speaker 1: spreading her legs oh, no and ending this shoot with 405 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,679 Speaker 1: both of them on the side looking like he was 406 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 1: taking her in the missionary. 407 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 2: Physician, yay that's what you wanted to. See why are 408 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 2: we asking for more? Photos? 409 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: Yeah this is, oh this is so because like we've 410 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 1: had all these like cheating. Stories, right here's the, Question, 411 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: right we've had all these cheating, stories right is it 412 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: better the cheating stories where they just hear about it 413 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: or this guy who's like they're not literally hooking up 414 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: but it fully looks fully looks like. It oh, man 415 00:18:55,760 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: the perception so. Bad the, visuals the visuals. Crazy uh, 416 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: well there was a third. Party it was a professional. 417 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: Shoot i'd rather them do this than SHE i. DID i, 418 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 1: know it's so. Hard and the other thing, too is, like, 419 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 1: okay you know, what like even AND i don't think 420 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,439 Speaker 1: we should give her a pass for like when she 421 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: called the, guy but, like, okay let's say you get 422 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: up to the point where the guy is there and 423 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:20,880 Speaker 1: then you you, know you go from like maybe both 424 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: standing like you, know kind of like you, know bad 425 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: boys style, whatever to starting to get into the you, 426 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: know more risky. Stuff do you not stop at? That 427 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 1: do you not stop when he has your underwear and his? Teeth, 428 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: yeah and he's like bending you over into missionary like 429 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: is there any? Poe? 430 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 2: Like, hey can we, like CAN i? Pause i'm good, 431 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,880 Speaker 2: Here i'm not. Comfortable if this was, filmed this would 432 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 2: be the intro of a. Corno, yeah, yeah. DUDE i 433 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:49,919 Speaker 2: asked her to promise me there weren't more and it 434 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 2: didn't go any further than, That so she said it 435 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 2: didn't that the GUY i never even took off his. 436 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 2: UNDERWEAR i asked if it turned her. On she, said 437 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 2: in a physical sense of feeling skin on sinks it 438 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 2: did turn her, On but on an emotional, level she 439 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 2: was terrified of WHAT i would think and it was 440 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 2: so business, like there was nothing organic happening at. 441 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: ALL i told her this was all so. Fishy because 442 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: the shoot happened In, May she's had almost six weeks 443 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: to tell me maybe. More she says that she just 444 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 1: couldn't find the, words but was really working on. It, oh. 445 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 2: That's a hard one to. 446 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:24,679 Speaker 1: Trust, yeah THAT'S i think she might have taken this. 447 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:28,199 Speaker 1: One do the. Grave Her ingina were locked in on 448 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: the secret to the too six feet? Deep oh, man 449 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 1: almost as deep as the model. Went, Okay so now 450 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 1: the thing that's sort of gross is that our spicy 451 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,719 Speaker 1: sleep life has been, amazing AND i think that the 452 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 1: correlation is about when the photo shoot. 453 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 2: Happened, oh she saw something she. Likes. 454 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 1: Uh, oh she's gonna use that in her. Mind oh, 455 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 1: God oh that's not. Good, wow thanks. KEONK i sees 456 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: it LIKE i had attributed it more towards our son 457 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: finally sleeping more than three hours at a. Time but 458 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:06,919 Speaker 1: Now i'm not. Sure part of me thinks that she 459 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: was seriously turned on by the whole thing and took 460 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 1: that out quote unquote on. ME i told HER i 461 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: wanted her to swear to me that she doesn't know 462 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,199 Speaker 1: this guy from anything, prior hasn't kept in touch with him, 463 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: since and has no plans to in the. Future and 464 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: so she said the guy actually brought up his girlfriend 465 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,360 Speaker 1: with him to the, shoot and she was a gorgeous 466 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: volleyball player for the local. University and she's pretty sure 467 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 1: that he's not trading a six to one voluptuous volleyball 468 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: player for a thirty year old mother with a thirteenth 469 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,400 Speaker 1: month old. Baby, okay what are looking for trades? Here 470 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: this is that's not the? 471 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:40,439 Speaker 2: Focus, like, yeah it was. 472 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 1: Not now back to the. STORY i asked if the 473 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 1: girlfriend actually watched the. Shoot my Wife nikki said the 474 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: girl was in the, room but sat and scrolled on 475 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: her phone and seemed bored by the whole. THING i 476 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 1: asked who else was in the. Room she said it 477 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: was Just gina and her assistant who held the lights and. 478 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: Such after some surfing Around gina's main sight and finding 479 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: other things the guy had done for, her we were 480 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 1: able to find his In facebook. Page to this, Guy, 481 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,479 Speaker 1: dude this guy is torturing. Himself he's a college student 482 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 1: and certainly does appear to be dating a very attractive 483 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: college volleyball. PLAYER i asked What gina was going to 484 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: do with those, pictures because to, me it was crazy 485 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: That nikki was initially hesitant to even do the boudoir 486 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 1: shoots because of people seeing her to taking what essentially 487 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: appears to be softcore in less than a, week that 488 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: WHICH i would also totally agree with, That like she 489 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,360 Speaker 1: was even iffy about doing the spicy photo shoot to begin. 490 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 1: With then you bring in, this you, know almost nude 491 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: ripped six' three male model and his underwear is in. 492 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 2: His, Teeth gina, come on what are we? Doing here? 493 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: Come on trying to? 494 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 2: Get, more also what is This benefiting? Gina for what 495 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 2: is she doing with? 496 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 1: This concert or SHE can i don't know. SELL it 497 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 1: i don't. KNOW photographers i do not feel Good about. 498 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 2: GINA whatsoever i would know her intention, of it because 499 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 2: wouldn't you just want to get those photos and then. 500 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: Be done, she's, Like well i'm sure she's doing it 501 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: for some some sort of purpose other than just sending It. To, 502 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 1: ope YEAH because i thought that was what she was, 503 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: gonna do and she sent over. The book but that 504 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 1: was just like a like, a trinket you KNOW what. 505 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: I mean it wasn't like. THE purpose i don't think 506 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 1: it was the purpose. Of it because the other guy 507 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: is a. PROFESSIONAL model i think these are gonna be 508 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:12,479 Speaker 1: sold their. 509 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 2: Use somewhere does everyone know about that, part TOO because, 510 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 2: I mean i don't want pictures of my wife being. 511 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:22,239 Speaker 1: Sold everywhere, that's yeah one, hundred percent that's that is 512 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 1: not many people would agree, with that, so well we're 513 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: gonna get a genus out of the. Story here so 514 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,439 Speaker 1: she Said that gena the photographer had no plans for 515 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: the pictures, at all that they weren't going to be. Posted, 516 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 1: anywhere okay so actually these spicy photos are not going to. 517 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 1: Be posted they were done justice test Shoots since gina 518 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: is getting backed into badoir and couples photo shoots and 519 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: the male model oder, a favor so it was a 520 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 1: great time. TO practice, i asked why not ask me to? 521 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,959 Speaker 1: Do it she said she didn't have a good answer. 522 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: For that that kind of, makes, IT like i don't 523 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 1: know if that's better or makes it even worse because 524 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: it was. So unnecessary it's like you're, just practicing just 525 00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: practice when you do, the shoot like you don't you 526 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: don't get to like do that. To, people yeah. 527 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,959 Speaker 2: Exactly implic if you're, doing couples you probably not all 528 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 2: the guys are gonna look like a six y three. 529 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 2: Muscular guys just. 530 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: Just do the couples do give someone, a discount and 531 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:13,439 Speaker 1: it's the, first one and then do the n new 532 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,120 Speaker 1: more cosy And then jamie. 533 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 2: The photographer a, Professional, here yes offer doing boudoirs for 534 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 2: both males, and FEMALES but i couldn't include the opposite 535 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 2: sex and shot unless it was with the person's. 536 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 1: Significant other we Have from jamie the, photography chick that 537 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: is like verified photographer advice who has done boudoir shoots. As, 538 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: well boom you heard it, here, First FOLKS so, I, 539 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:39,199 Speaker 1: Asked obviously ginatt already made one huge mistake sending them 540 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: to me or uploading them in my private. Proof page 541 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: how do we know she's not going to make another 542 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,199 Speaker 1: huge mistake and send it to the wrong person and 543 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,199 Speaker 1: or forget that these were just practice and sell them to. 544 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: Someone else get. Good questions My wife nikki said that 545 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: we are just going to have to. Trust her, oh 546 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 1: uh there's not too much. TRUST there i don't know about. 547 00:24:58,920 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 3: That. 548 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: ONE yeah i TOLD her i was having a really 549 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: hard time trusting anyone at, that MOMENT and i would 550 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 1: need more. Than that nicki said that we could Talk 551 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: to gina at the first Opportunity. ON monday, i said 552 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: would she be willing to pay a lawyer to drop 553 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 1: a contract To keep gina to? Her word she said. 554 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: She would then we got into why? The secrecy she 555 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: said that she felt so guilty after the whole thing 556 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: that she had no idea how to, tell me and 557 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,120 Speaker 1: she knew she was going to see her family, this 558 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,959 Speaker 1: week so she had hoped to put off. The SUBJECT 559 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: that's i think where she was at the lake house 560 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 1: with the they they was mom. And, dad, Okay. GOOD 561 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: yeah i asked her how she found OUT that. I 562 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: knew she Said that gina had called Her late wednesday 563 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: confessing that she had really screwed up MY wife nicki 564 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: claims at this point she went into full panic mode 565 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,679 Speaker 1: and pretty much was either crying or claiming up around 566 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 1: everyone because she felt. SO ashamed i told her how 567 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 1: much the silence almost, destroyed me and she started crying 568 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: and said she was so sorry for the, whole thing 569 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 1: and she knew she screwed up and basically begged me 570 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 1: not to, leave her and that she still had more 571 00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: love for me than she had, for anyone which leads 572 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:05,719 Speaker 1: me to the, next poll divorce? Or not divorce? 573 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 2: Or not she said she. 574 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: WAS sorry i don't think this is a divorce. TERRITORY 575 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 1: yet i definitely think, it's, like hey we need to 576 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 1: rebuild the, trust here because not only was the, trust broken, 577 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 1: but like, for instance, she's, like oh we'll have To. 578 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: Trust gina it's, like, no, no, no, No no like we 579 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: need to like figure. This out we need to do 580 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 1: some work here to actually get a solution. In PLACE 581 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 1: and i, was, like well we, tried nothing so that's 582 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: all we. Can. 583 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 2: Do now i've been pulling Up to. Gina's, house, HEY 584 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 2: uh i want to see those pictures and then get. M. 585 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:41,439 Speaker 1: Deleted, right, Yeah so. OPIE says i TOLD her i 586 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: believe that she, loved me believed that she was acknowledging, 587 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 1: her mistake BUT that i felt like uber disrespected and 588 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: emasculated by the. Whole thing she said she could appreciate 589 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: that and would do whatever she could to make it up. 590 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: TO me i, TOLD her i just wasn't sure what that. 591 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: Meant yet she started crying and again begged me not 592 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: to make any rash decisions about. LEAVING her, i said 593 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: if she promised she would telling, the truth and it 594 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,199 Speaker 1: seems like she. Is that i'm not, leaving Her but 595 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 1: i'm not sure what normal will look like for. Us 596 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: now she said she'd be willing to do whatever it 597 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,919 Speaker 1: takes or wait however long for me to figure. It 598 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 1: out so here's where. We're at our son woke up 599 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,439 Speaker 1: since sleep schedule was messed out from, the drive so 600 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: she's tending, to Him and i'm. WRITING this i guess 601 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: aside from the lie of a mission about the, whole 602 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 1: thing she's never been dishonest, With ME so i believe 603 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: her about all of. THE details, i mean they seem 604 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 1: so crazy as to, be true and that a lie 605 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 1: would be more, like normal if that makes. ANY sense 606 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,640 Speaker 1: i THINK basically opi saying like she Admitted, TO hey 607 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 1: I felt i was turned on on skin, on skin 608 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:35,640 Speaker 1: but like, not emotionally and like like. 609 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 2: Makes sense all. 610 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: Of it It's it's he's like it's almost like she's 611 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: incriminating herself now to a point where like it feels 612 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: like the truth versus like what a lie. 613 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 2: Would, Be yeah i'd want to look at those other 614 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,439 Speaker 2: photos to make sure she is, looking ashamed because. 615 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 1: She did he did look at all the other photos. 616 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 2: And she did. 617 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: LOOK terrified, I mean opie didn't, confirm that but that 618 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,919 Speaker 1: was that was when the missionary position came Up, at yeah. 619 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 2: Because if she's she's, stayed silent she hasn't necessarily kind. 620 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,439 Speaker 2: Of lied she lying more to get herself out of the, 621 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 2: Hole too that's. 622 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: The THING and i Mean like op's, basically, like hey 623 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: with all of the context of, OUR relationship i think 624 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: she's telling, the TRUTH but i think But, all op 625 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 1: he's also SAYING like i don't know what normal, looks like, 626 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 1: and like how we're going to rebuild this trust because 627 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: RIGHT now i don't think the trust. 628 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 3: Is. 629 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 2: There, yeah no definitely couple's therapy, For. 630 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 1: Yes and, even honestly the Comment about gina too is 631 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: like a red flag where, it's like are you not 632 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 1: like that's part of this, Whole thing like we want to. 633 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 1: MAKE sure i want to make Sure, That gina like 634 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 1: we can't just sit here and. Do nothing we Can't 635 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 1: let gina. Do whatever, BUT anyway. I digress i still 636 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 1: feel gross about the. Whole thing another guy's touched my 637 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: wife's front, air bags my wife has let another man's 638 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: breath on, her neck and another guy's laid on top 639 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: of her and several. Different positions if you catch. My 640 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 1: drift we can never be a married couple that can 641 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: say we haven't been intimate with. OTHER people, I mean 642 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 1: i get the professionalism, of it but it all. STILL 643 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: happened i have to learn to live. WITH that i. 644 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: Don't know that's. THE update i don't know if there's 645 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 1: more to say. Or not maybe there will. BE more i. 646 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: Don't know i'm trying very hard to sort through my 647 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: feelings and not having much luck. At it it's about, 648 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: six am totally, sleepless night so based, on comments as 649 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: soon as my wife, IS up i am going to 650 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: one asked to see her phone to Tell her i'm 651 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: contacting the girlfriend as she seems to be the most 652 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,959 Speaker 1: neutral party who can verify. Some details three Independently contact 653 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 1: gina and ask to see every photo that was taking. That, 654 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 1: day okay so maybe there are still some photos that. 655 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 1: Hasn't seen. Got it those are by far the most. 656 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 1: COMMON responses i will update when they, are done and 657 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: we have a thinking update. 658 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 4: Coming, UP yeah i think this is. An update, Another, Update, 659 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 4: sam here we're gonna get back to. The stories but 660 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 4: here's three of it's bads from. 661 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: Our, sponsor yeah We've got we've got another edit with 662 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 1: a lot more, potentially juicy. Spicy, details keon are you 663 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 1: staying together? 664 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 3: Or? Not yeah I'M like, i said she, Didn't cheat 665 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 3: like there wasn't like this. Wasn't cheating but this was, 666 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 3: a dea, a BIG huge i, would say just breaking 667 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 3: up the trust in, our relation. 668 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 1: Total, breaking yeah breaking of, THE trust i feel like 669 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: is a good way to, phrase it because, it's, like. 670 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 3: YEAH and i get it that she, was distraught but 671 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 3: you still. Did it you could have said no any 672 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 3: time or during the. Photo shoot you could have BEEN 673 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 3: like i don't feel comfortable with this something. Like THAT 674 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 3: and i know you said some photos you WERE am 675 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 3: i divorcing OR am i breaking up with? 676 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: My partner at? This, point no it's just how do 677 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 1: we go? From, HERE yeah i definitely think like couple, 678 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 1: couples counseling because again too, FOR me i think the 679 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 1: Response about gina, is, like oh she's not like getting 680 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: it too like she. MIGHT do i think she is truly, 681 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 1: feels REGRETFUL honestly i do from everything. She Said but 682 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: i'm also like part of, it too like obviously like 683 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 1: truly feeling regret that's obviously a very. Important part but 684 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: another important part is like like in building back the 685 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 1: trust and all this stuff is, like Hey like, opie's, 686 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 1: like hey it's important to me To contact gina to 687 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: make sure she doesn't do anything else with the Photos and, she's, 688 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: like well there's nothing we. Can do, YOU know i. 689 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: Don't know smells like. A fish oh what it's. FISHY 690 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 1: ah i thought this is gonna be like. Your shirt 691 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: oh the lesson. That, shirt yeah. 692 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 2: Great shirt oh but ladies. 693 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: And gentlemen we've got this edit. Number two let's get. 694 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 1: Into IT so i heard my wife crying in the 695 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,479 Speaker 1: next room on. THE phone i sort, of eavesdropped and 696 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 1: obviously It. Was, Gina. OOH nicole I. Think nikki the 697 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 1: wife was telling her that she needed to come over 698 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: and send all the pictures from the, whole shoot and 699 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 1: divorce was on the line and she had to. Do 700 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: this gina is on her way out of town to 701 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 1: shoot a, wedding today but we are rushing over so 702 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 1: she can open the studio before, she leaves so we 703 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 1: can go through all. THE pictures i told my WIFE 704 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 1: that i wanted to look at her phone on the. 705 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: Way over she said that. Was fine she's packing up. 706 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: Our son we are taking our one year old son 707 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: to a studio where my wife was felt up in 708 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 1: order to prove she didn't cheat. On me this has 709 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 1: been the most f week in. 710 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 2: My life, come, on buddy we're gonna go to a 711 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 2: special studio to make sure your mom didn't do anything 712 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 2: special with. Another person and that's. 713 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 1: Where the model also squeezed her front. Air bag see 714 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: that's one thing you guys have. In common you're. Both 715 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 1: fans gotta. Love it, wow graphic. 716 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 2: Pretty. 717 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: GRAPHIC there i can update, later Afterwards but. I'm worried 718 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: this is exhausting everyone else as it is. To me 719 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: so here's where we're. AT now i looked at my 720 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: wife so on all the way Over to. GINA'S studio 721 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: i Love how opie's like like a reporter like you 722 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 1: in real. Time, updates Basically, on wednesday at six point, 723 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: thirty pm there were seven miss Calls from gina from my. 724 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: Wife's phone gina also started a text conversation with her 725 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 1: about that time, that said please, call me we really need. 726 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: TO talk i crossed that with my Email, to gina 727 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 1: which said this was way MORE than i thought it 728 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 1: was going, to be which was sent around six fifteen that. 729 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 1: Same day if, you remember in those, FIFTEEN minutes i 730 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: had tried to call My. Wife nicki she told me 731 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: that she was too busy. TO talk i texted HER 732 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 1: that i wanted to know what happened in the. Photo 733 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 1: shoot apparently in those Fifteen minutes open needs to start 734 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 1: a true crime podcast. Or something this. Is crazy in those, 735 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 1: Fifteen minutes nicky STILL thought i, didn't know because she 736 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 1: texted back sexiness, you like are you liking a? 737 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 2: Sexy you you WANT me i do? 738 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 1: For, you hey these front airbags are still. Fully inflated 739 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 1: so Clearly when gina's text started, rolling in she KNEW that. 740 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: I knew so their text conversation basically, WENT like i really. 741 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 1: Screwed up not you, loell no this. Is serious please 742 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 1: call can't now? WHAT'S wrong i accidentally put those Picks 743 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 1: with craig Up on thomas's. Preview site what. PLEASE listen 744 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: i need to know what you want me. TO do i. 745 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 1: Don't understand tommy just emailed me about the photo shoot 746 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 1: not being what he thought. It was how would he? 747 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 1: Know that the, wife says you haven't told. Him, yet 748 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 1: no not planning on it for. A, while okay so 749 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 1: six weeks out and we're still not planning on it for. 750 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 2: A while we did another six weeks, the bank probably at. The, 751 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 2: Anniversary hey i'm gonna, you, something yeah. Real quick i've 752 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 2: been a little bit. More, Spicier, RIGHT well i found 753 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 2: some inspiration. 754 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 1: Birth of baby. Number two this is where this baby. 755 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 1: Came from, got, Him so, opie said not planning out for, 756 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 1: A while, gina, said crap THAT'S what. I thought, Nicky 757 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 1: Says i'm i'm still lost than in, All caps, gina 758 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:07,959 Speaker 1: replies he's seen the picks of You. And craig please, follow, 759 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: me dude this might, be HARSH but nicki doesn't sound 760 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 1: like the brightest bulb in. The back, she's like let 761 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 1: me spell it out. For you? What how i'm. SO 762 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: sorry i was rushing to get proofs OUT and i 763 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 1: accidentally uploaded most of them to his. Preview site? WHAT'S 764 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,839 Speaker 1: most i mean almost all? Of them oh, My, God 765 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: gina oh. My god what do you want me to? 766 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 1: Do now i'm out. OF town i can't Leave. Until? Saturday, 767 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,879 Speaker 1: saturday no WHAT do? I do i. Don't know he's 768 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 1: going to effing. FLIP out i can change the passwords 769 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 1: so we can't get. Back in what if he? Copies 770 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 1: them can't their? Copy protected, opie says please? Do THAT 771 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 1: while I think i'm, So, sorry nicole this is a. 772 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 1: Huge accident do you want me to talk? To him, nicky, 773 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 1: says no this better come, for Me but i'm going to. 774 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 1: THROW up i don't know what. To do i'm, So sorry, 775 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 1: gina says and that was pretty much the only communication, 776 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 1: between them no other calls. Or anything gena texteditor the very, 777 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 1: next day saying are you okay to? Type Stuff but nicki. 778 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,879 Speaker 1: NEVER responded nicki did text her that she Was leaving, 779 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 1: saturday morning but. Nothing else so then we get to, 780 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 1: the studio but the ground zero where it. All happened 781 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 1: gina was rushing around like crazy because she was driving 782 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 1: two hours away to do. A wedding i asked her 783 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: to please talk to me about what she. Was thinking 784 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: so she took like five minutes and said that she 785 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,319 Speaker 1: was so sorry and that the thoughts just got away, 786 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,359 Speaker 1: from Her and nicky was doing such an. Amazing job 787 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,319 Speaker 1: it seemed like a. Great idea at, THE time i 788 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 1: was at a loss, for WORDS so i just didn't 789 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 1: ask any. More questions gina set us up on her 790 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,320 Speaker 1: main computer and opened the file folder of every single 791 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 1: One of nicky's pictures from, that day including the ones 792 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,839 Speaker 1: not included in. THE proofs i think it was exactly, 793 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: one thousand two hundred and thirteen. 794 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 2: Pictures from the. Whole shoot from the. 795 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 1: Whole, shoot, okay wow. 796 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:50,800 Speaker 2: That's usually HOW much. 797 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 1: I mean but just that's, one thousand two hundred and 798 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: thirteen moments of pain. 799 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 3: Of. 800 00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,320 Speaker 2: Them, yeah yeah it's probably like around three thousand or 801 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 2: three hundred. 802 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 1: Three, hundred yeah but still you're skimming. 803 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 2: Through, THEM yeah i know. 804 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:08,280 Speaker 3: The first nine hundred those. Are fabulous and then comes 805 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 3: with her. 806 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:13,319 Speaker 1: Male. Models. YEAH oh i scrolled through every image and 807 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 1: got to the. COUPLE shots i could very clearly tell 808 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,719 Speaker 1: that the mood had changed in the throwaway pictures from 809 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,240 Speaker 1: the solo to the couple and all the, Solo shoots 810 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 1: nikki was smiling and laughing and having a good time 811 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 1: even if the pick didn't. Turn out but in the, 812 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,439 Speaker 1: COUPLE shoots i could clearly see she. Was nervous she wasn't. 813 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 1: Having fun she had that, same timid almost Annoyed face 814 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 1: i've seen on her a. Million times. I'd say in the, 815 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,360 Speaker 1: couple section it took ten pictures to come up with 816 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,919 Speaker 1: the one that looked, halfway decent where her face didn't 817 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,840 Speaker 1: look like it was, being interrogated and it got worse 818 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 1: as she was more and. More undressed you can clearly 819 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 1: see that she had a look of genuine disgust when 820 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 1: the guy touches her, front airbags and it takes a 821 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 1: long time for her to make these. 822 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 2: Shots, work Dude If i'm gina in, THIS scenario a 823 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,479 Speaker 2: doesn't look like it's, gonna, Fit right we're gonna. 824 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,840 Speaker 1: Call it, i'm SORRY but i feel like as part 825 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 1: of you being the photographer, Is, like okay we need 826 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 1: to make sure that like everyone's, comfortable here, because like 827 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 1: at the end of, the day this is. Your shoot you're, 828 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 1: doing this, and, like yeah it's just the requirement of 829 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 1: doing what, you do, exactly know and look if she 830 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 1: had some you know again single, you know two, single people, 831 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:23,279 Speaker 1: their models they're. Having fun, they're like, oh great do that. 832 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 1: With them don't do that in. This scenario don't push this. On, 833 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,320 Speaker 1: someone yeah this is not need. To happen there was 834 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 1: also a little INTERLUDE where I guess nicki went into 835 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 1: the dressing room to, compose Herself so gina took some 836 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 1: similar shots but with her. Clothes on he was still 837 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 1: in his underwear with the guy and, his girlfriend and 838 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 1: it's very obvious that they both have experience doing this sort. 839 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 1: Of thing you can See that nicky is coming out 840 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 1: of the. Dressing room gina took the pictures of, her 841 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 1: alone trying to get that spark back from the, solo 842 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 1: stuff and in those pics you can see the girlfriend 843 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 1: in the background looking boredous crap on. Her phone after, 844 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 1: The break nicki seemed to be a little, more relaxed 845 00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 1: and that's where they got into him lying down on, 846 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,839 Speaker 1: her back which goes into the teeth thing and into 847 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 1: the very suggestive stuff where it appears he's initiating. Spicy 848 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,800 Speaker 1: sleep it takes an abrupt end and there's a dozen 849 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,319 Speaker 1: shots of everyone who is presenting doing things like flipping the, 850 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 1: camera off sticking their, tongues out and that sort. Of 851 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,880 Speaker 1: thing the weirdest one Is of nikki in a bathrobe 852 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,920 Speaker 1: and the girlfriend both hugging on the model with smiles on. 853 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 1: Their faces she says she asks for that one because 854 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,759 Speaker 1: it seemed like a cute shoot for everyone to say 855 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 1: we're all cool with. EACH other i was very careful 856 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 1: to check the sequencing of. The pictures gina has them 857 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 1: all nunerically titled with date and a code for customer 858 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,239 Speaker 1: and location than a, series number, so basically if they're all, 859 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:37,360 Speaker 1: in order he can see, it like. 860 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,360 Speaker 2: Got it it's like, zuzer one zeros ARE two zerso 861 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:41,400 Speaker 2: Four or. Zeruser. 862 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 1: Three, Yeah yeah and there wasn't a sickle. Picture missing 863 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,799 Speaker 1: and it would have been an epic Undertaking for gina 864 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,799 Speaker 1: to rename a thousand pictures to eliminate ones that were 865 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:51,480 Speaker 1: worse than THE ones i. Already SAW so i am 866 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:56,240 Speaker 1: ninety nine percent Convinced that i've. Seen everything you'd. 867 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,799 Speaker 2: Be surprised with what people can DO with. 868 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:04,960 Speaker 1: Ai, now Oh, oh god spread, them apart add three inches. Of, 869 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:06,400 Speaker 1: space uh what? 870 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,239 Speaker 2: Is it computer increased jiggliness by forty? Five Percent, oh. 871 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,400 Speaker 1: God not the. Jigle physics turn down the. Jego physics, 872 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 1: so now more, Than ever i'm convinced that my wife 873 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,239 Speaker 1: is telling me the truth about all. That happened we 874 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 1: took the full road to get the, full picture and 875 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,400 Speaker 1: seems like. WE'RE there i don't think she was cheating 876 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,319 Speaker 1: or having. Spicy sleep lots of people will consider what's. 877 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,760 Speaker 1: Happened cheating some of them are in this. Very studio, 878 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 1: me me this is a form. OF cheating i think it. 879 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,479 Speaker 1: Was professional it was a spur of the moment Thing 880 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 1: when nikki said she would like to try to do the. 881 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,319 Speaker 1: Couple stuff the girlfriend was, definitely THERE so i see 882 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 1: no reason to drag her. Into this by, THE way 883 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:47,239 Speaker 1: i want to drag you into the greatest binge of, 884 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 1: your life and that is Going To spotify apple, iHeart, 885 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,719 Speaker 1: searching Okay story time and getting two thousand episodes to. 886 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:55,839 Speaker 1: Listen to, right now do, your dishes walk, your, dog 887 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:57,800 Speaker 1: go do it. Right. Now guys it's we got more stuff. 888 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 1: Like this, but guys we are almost at the finale of. 889 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 1: THE saga, i mean what a what a journey that 890 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 1: we've taken my Brothers in christ. 891 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 2: Is it cheating or not divorce Or na, Gina's fault 892 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 2: nikki's fall all over. 893 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,279 Speaker 1: THE place i would love to get you're both of your, 894 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,880 Speaker 1: closing thoughts maybe starting, With, you riley what's your what's your? Closing? 895 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:18,279 Speaker 2: Thoughts here i'm trying to think the husband overreacted or 896 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,560 Speaker 2: not in any, SCENARIO here i don't think that. HE 897 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 2: did i just hope going forward they can put this 898 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,239 Speaker 2: behind him and he doesn't like weaponize this or keep 899 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:27,920 Speaker 2: bringing up because some of. THE thoughts i know he's 900 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 2: speaking from, his heart but it's sort of like there 901 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 2: is a bit. Of insecurity but your wife was basically 902 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:36,799 Speaker 2: nudy nude with another nudy. Nude, man yeah so that's 903 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:41,120 Speaker 2: my only concern. Going, forward yeah doesn't cost future, problems 904 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,880 Speaker 2: again then just, dig it dig a grave and leave it. 905 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 1: There. 906 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 2: Together yeah so. 907 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:47,560 Speaker 1: That's a good, call out like you don't want to 908 00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 1: and maybe. It does maybe he can never get out 909 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:50,719 Speaker 1: of his head and it's just kind of one of 910 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,920 Speaker 1: those things where they can't. Move, forward keon what are 911 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:53,680 Speaker 1: your what are your closing? 912 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 3: Thoughts HERE like i Said what i've kind of just 913 00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,040 Speaker 3: kind of standing on the Same thing i've. Said earlier 914 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,920 Speaker 3: the trust here. Is broken you need to see how 915 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,319 Speaker 3: we can fix this. Moving forward the husband in, this 916 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,360 Speaker 3: case op did go to extremes of like let's figure 917 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,799 Speaker 3: this out step, by step second, by second and like 918 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,000 Speaker 3: see if your story, you know is, you know one hundred. 919 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,239 Speaker 1: Percent, correct yeah and we have. The proof we have it. 920 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,760 Speaker 3: All there, we saw we saw the Proof that OPI's wife. 921 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 3: Was uncomfortable this Is, On gina like if she did 922 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:25,239 Speaker 3: clearly didn't see that in. 923 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:26,680 Speaker 1: The, photos yes you're. 924 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,839 Speaker 3: A photographer if your model is, not comfortable why are 925 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 3: you continuing this? 926 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,560 Speaker 1: Photo shoot it's your job this is. 927 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 3: Your job to make sure your models are one comfortable 928 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,680 Speaker 3: and okay with what's being shot. 929 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 1: On, camera yeah and. 930 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,879 Speaker 2: Maybe so more education on you can say no and 931 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,279 Speaker 2: walk away feel comfortable doing. 932 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,440 Speaker 1: That, either, YEAH yeah i think having. That discussion, and 933 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:51,920 Speaker 1: two like, you know if this was a, different scenario 934 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:55,399 Speaker 1: it seems like everything was didn't get into like too 935 00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,600 Speaker 1: redline territory with like, you know essay or anything. Like that, 936 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,840 Speaker 1: but yeah. Great points we're gonna get into the finale 937 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,160 Speaker 1: of the. Story here, Oh boy so The things i'm 938 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 1: still so. Uncomfortable with would she have ever really told 939 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:10,759 Speaker 1: Me had gina not accidentally shown me? Those picks why six? 940 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,360 Speaker 1: FREAKING weeks i think my wife was uncomfortable in, the 941 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 1: MOMENT but i think reflection allowed her to realize that 942 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,440 Speaker 1: she actually enjoyed. The experience i'm more convinced of this 943 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,480 Speaker 1: than ever with that shot of her with a huge 944 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,359 Speaker 1: smile where she and the girlfriend almost looked like they're 945 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:27,480 Speaker 1: members of a burgeoning harem dedicated To hot. ABS mccools 946 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,560 Speaker 1: i wish we had that nickname throughout this, Whole story gosh. 947 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,759 Speaker 1: Dang it but having, SAID that i do think that 948 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 1: she was embarrassed by initiating, the shoot and she was 949 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:36,920 Speaker 1: very scared of what my reaction was going. To be 950 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,160 Speaker 1: but it says a lot that she didn't trust me to. 951 00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,879 Speaker 1: Tell me so that's where we're. AT now I guess 952 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 1: I'M glad i got to see, the PICTURES but i 953 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,399 Speaker 1: don't know if this really cleared. ANYTHING up i think 954 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,080 Speaker 1: she's telling me a version of the truth that's mostly. 955 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:52,160 Speaker 1: Factually true but HOW the F can i? Ever know 956 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 1: i'm not leaving her or divorcing her based ON what i. 957 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:56,799 Speaker 1: Know now part of me is very happy for her 958 00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 1: that she had a. Good time i'm not Like The 959 00:42:58,719 --> 00:42:59,240 Speaker 1: fun police. 960 00:42:59,480 --> 00:42:59,560 Speaker 3: Or. 961 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,840 Speaker 1: Anything again he was very excited for her to do the, solo, shoot, 962 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,720 Speaker 1: like hey go go out there and get. Have Fun 963 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,359 Speaker 1: but i'm still feel overall terrible about the. 964 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:14,279 Speaker 2: Whole, thing yeah definitely Go To gina's google review link 965 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:15,560 Speaker 2: a post to this. 966 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:19,560 Speaker 1: Negative, three stars negative. Five, Stars dude gina fumbled. The 967 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:23,319 Speaker 1: Bag samuel donner has just joined. The studio Ladies, AND, 968 00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:28,360 Speaker 1: gentlemen o? What's good? What's? Good baby ladies. And gents, 969 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:35,440 Speaker 1: oh well ladies, and gentlemen boys, and girls people around. 970 00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:41,440 Speaker 1: The world we are about to Start the, oh Okay story, time, 971 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,359 Speaker 1: Podcast right sam came back to FINISH THE. Epi, us 972 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:50,240 Speaker 1: oh this is a. Finisher, finisher oh, so welcome, welcome back. You've, 973 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,000 Speaker 1: Magic hello. 974 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:52,960 Speaker 2: I'm, back? 975 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:57,359 Speaker 1: Yeah crazy who is? Right? Here riley but who's? Right here? 976 00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,720 Speaker 4: Right now sam did a little. Switcher, room ooh maybe. 977 00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,359 Speaker 4: We're twins sam's gonna finish. 978 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,040 Speaker 1: Us, off guys you guys ready for. 979 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:04,359 Speaker 2: This one? 980 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,120 Speaker 1: We're ready let me. Get it you just go, for it? 981 00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,000 Speaker 1: All right my ex introduced me to his. New girlfriend 982 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:14,120 Speaker 1: but something doesn't. Add up what's going? 983 00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:17,880 Speaker 4: On, here elementary my dear. Watching cheating that's all HAPPENED 984 00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,239 Speaker 4: when i was in high SCHOOL and i haven't seen. 985 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:24,040 Speaker 4: Him SINCE so i started dating this guy my sophomore 986 00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,719 Speaker 4: year of high school and it only lasted about. A month, 987 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,480 Speaker 4: TO me i wasn't anything, too CRAZY and i moved 988 00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,080 Speaker 4: on with, my life believing he did. As well by, 989 00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,640 Speaker 4: the way this COMES From I love horror. Twenty sixteen 990 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:36,400 Speaker 4: have you want some of your? Own stories go to Our, 991 00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,640 Speaker 4: Slash okay storytime, subbured it so he gave me an. 992 00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,239 Speaker 4: OFF feeling i realized he just wasn't, for me and 993 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,200 Speaker 4: two years after, our relationship we shared a few classes, 994 00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,239 Speaker 4: senior year and we were kind of forced to talk 995 00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,279 Speaker 4: since we were in a, math GROUP and i was 996 00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,560 Speaker 4: hesitant to start any sort of friendship with HIM since 997 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,359 Speaker 4: i was his first kiss in his. First, relationship oh. 998 00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:56,239 Speaker 4: First smooch you always remember your? 999 00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:56,800 Speaker 2: FIRST moach. 1000 00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:58,879 Speaker 1: I do who? Was it i'm not going to say, 1001 00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:03,160 Speaker 1: their name but it was in ninth grade at a. 1002 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,880 Speaker 1: Movie theater. Good smooch it was, like awkward and then 1003 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:07,520 Speaker 1: she broke up with me the. Next. Week, dan oh 1004 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:09,560 Speaker 1: probably not for the, smooch though that was your. First 1005 00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:13,200 Speaker 1: smooch two? Week, relationship oh it sounds like high. SCHOOL 1006 00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:15,000 Speaker 1: anyway a. 1007 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,840 Speaker 4: Mutual friend told me he was a little HURT that 1008 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,480 Speaker 4: i broke up with HIM since i was his. First 1009 00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,400 Speaker 4: love but one day he told me he had, a 1010 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,879 Speaker 4: girlfriend which honestly calmed me down and gave me more 1011 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,880 Speaker 4: comfort in talking, to him believing he was over whatever. 1012 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,279 Speaker 4: We had, over time we, became friends and he even 1013 00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,000 Speaker 4: offered to help me train for RUNNING because i joined. The, 1014 00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:37,160 Speaker 4: military honestly RUNNING and i were never, really friends so 1015 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,400 Speaker 4: every day after school we would go to a trail 1016 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,880 Speaker 4: near our school. To train and keep in MIND that 1017 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,919 Speaker 4: i never twisted his INTENTION and i genuinely had no 1018 00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:49,719 Speaker 4: other intentions than to appreciate. His help hey it's sam. 1019 00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,240 Speaker 4: Og host we're go get back to these. Delectable stories 1020 00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,319 Speaker 4: but here's three minutes of ads from our sponsors to 1021 00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:54,760 Speaker 4: help support. 1022 00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,480 Speaker 1: The show potonic friends hang out. And run here, We, 1023 00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,160 Speaker 1: go okay not on roofs. 1024 00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,600 Speaker 4: On trails ONE day i got a message from. His 1025 00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:06,360 Speaker 4: girlfriend the odd thing was it was from his. Phone number, 1026 00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:07,120 Speaker 4: oh no It's a. 1027 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:10,239 Speaker 1: Canadian, Girlfriend dude i'm getting met her. A camp i'm 1028 00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:13,560 Speaker 1: Getting another, canadian. GIRLFRIEND vibe i had a conversation, with 1029 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:14,319 Speaker 1: her not thinking much. 1030 00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,600 Speaker 4: Of, it honestly if my boyfriend was out every day with, 1031 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,879 Speaker 4: A girl i would also text them to see. WHAT'S 1032 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,520 Speaker 4: up i assured HER that i didn't want him nor 1033 00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:23,879 Speaker 4: wanted to take, him away and she said she liked 1034 00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:25,560 Speaker 4: me and was perfectly. 1035 00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,480 Speaker 1: Fine with us. Training. Together, nice yeah there. 1036 00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:31,080 Speaker 4: We go it's so great when your fake girlfriend and 1037 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:35,000 Speaker 4: future fake girlfriend. Get along the, next day he apologized 1038 00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,719 Speaker 4: on her behalf and told me that she really liked 1039 00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,319 Speaker 4: me and would like to continue talking to me and 1040 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,640 Speaker 4: maybe even. Become friends since she didn't really have ANY 1041 00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:47,320 Speaker 4: just i Message, only, yeah yeah it's a. VIRTUAL relationship, 1042 00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,040 Speaker 4: i agreed and he said that it had to be 1043 00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,359 Speaker 4: from his phone since she wasn't allowed to have new 1044 00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:57,239 Speaker 4: contacts or friends that her father did not. Approve of that, 1045 00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,680 Speaker 4: was odd BUT honestly i didn't think much. Of, IT, 1046 00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,160 Speaker 4: OH p i think you need to start thinking much. 1047 00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,520 Speaker 4: OF something, i mean this is, high school. Right, you 1048 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,799 Speaker 4: yeah but it's the end of. High, school yeah, it's, 1049 00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:14,000 Speaker 4: like yeah, come on, Start thinking. Start thinking so me 1050 00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:17,240 Speaker 4: and her started talking and texting every. 1051 00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:17,600 Speaker 1: Breed. 1052 00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,440 Speaker 4: Day now the weird thing was that she started sharing 1053 00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,960 Speaker 4: very personal information about her RELATIONSHIP that i honestly didn't need, 1054 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:27,239 Speaker 4: to know especially about their spicy sleep lives and spicy sleep. 1055 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:31,560 Speaker 4: Related activities he also would brag about his really good 1056 00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,280 Speaker 4: performance when we would, hang OUT and i would always 1057 00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:38,200 Speaker 4: try to avoid. That topic, OVER time i started to 1058 00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:41,240 Speaker 4: suspect that she might not have been a, real PERSON 1059 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,319 Speaker 4: since i didn't know anything about her other than what 1060 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,719 Speaker 4: he would. Tell me he didn't have a photo, OF 1061 00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,200 Speaker 4: her i didn't know what she. SOUNDED like i didn't 1062 00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,440 Speaker 4: know her last name or who her. PARENTS were, i mean, come. 1063 00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:52,960 Speaker 1: On she's from. 1064 00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,040 Speaker 4: Camp bro they Met, In, canady yeah they meant. A 1065 00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:59,080 Speaker 4: camp they met, a camp. Strict parents she has like 1066 00:47:59,120 --> 00:47:59,920 Speaker 4: social media. 1067 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,440 Speaker 1: Culture does not have. Last, names yeah. 1068 00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:06,640 Speaker 4: And she's like, four, faces yeah or like it's, it's 1069 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:11,080 Speaker 4: cultural a. Cultural thing you. Would, understand honestly you're kind of. 1070 00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:14,200 Speaker 4: A bigot you're trying to get name bodies and pictures of. 1071 00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:15,920 Speaker 4: My girlfriend i'm trying to do. 1072 00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,120 Speaker 1: Trying to steal. Her away you hear about all this 1073 00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:20,719 Speaker 1: great spicy sleep and, you're like let me. 1074 00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:24,400 Speaker 4: See, WHAT yeah i told you out of the kindness 1075 00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:26,960 Speaker 4: of my heart about that SPICIES that i didn't. HAVE to, 1076 00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,640 Speaker 4: i DID and i will continue to do even if 1077 00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:30,200 Speaker 4: you don't want. 1078 00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,320 Speaker 1: Me TO but i didn't. Have to i'm not. Gonna 1079 00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,000 Speaker 1: lie this is the craziest and most Hilarious catfish i've ever. 1080 00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:36,279 Speaker 1: Heard of i've never heard. 1081 00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:41,560 Speaker 4: This before it's the most transparently weird and like OBVIOUS cat, i, mean. 1082 00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:43,959 Speaker 1: Look you're gonna. Get caught you're gonna. Get caught you're gonna. 1083 00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,000 Speaker 4: Get CAUGHT but i would also like to add that 1084 00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,840 Speaker 4: she was also crazy rich and from a. 1085 00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:53,960 Speaker 1: Different, school yeah this is like my actress. Model girlfriend Her. Name, 1086 00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,080 Speaker 1: sindea yeah she. 1087 00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:57,960 Speaker 2: Doesn't have a. 1088 00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:03,680 Speaker 1: Last, name yeah, Thank. You SOPHIEL. 1089 00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:07,759 Speaker 2: So i didn't know where the, camera WAS so i. 1090 00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:15,399 Speaker 1: Didn't there she is looking good. LOOKING cute i like that. 1091 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:19,440 Speaker 4: All RIGHT so i HONESTLY thought i was calm for thinking, 1092 00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:21,680 Speaker 4: like that AND that i read too many picture books to, 1093 00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,279 Speaker 4: even consider especially since they had an ARGUMENT that i 1094 00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:27,200 Speaker 4: helped them. Work, through yeah we had an argument, about 1095 00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:30,000 Speaker 4: like you know HOW good i am And yead SHE 1096 00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:33,040 Speaker 4: said i, was GOOD but I said i, was. 1097 00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,560 Speaker 1: Really babe let's stop the semantics and start. 1098 00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:41,600 Speaker 4: The, love yeah, you know there's only one way. Dead experimentation, 1099 00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:45,319 Speaker 4: over time me and him became, close WHY and i 1100 00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,680 Speaker 4: made the mistake of letting him drive me to our 1101 00:49:47,840 --> 00:50:00,000 Speaker 4: step classes, Step class, IT'S dance i read that steph 1102 00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:04,120 Speaker 4: bro oh oh god classes that were in a. 1103 00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,239 Speaker 1: Different school if you didn't have your, own car you 1104 00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:06,600 Speaker 1: had to take. 1105 00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,360 Speaker 4: The bus he even offered giving me rides, of school 1106 00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,800 Speaker 4: TO which i said no since my parents didn't fully. 1107 00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,000 Speaker 4: Trust HIM but i did make the mistake of giving 1108 00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,400 Speaker 4: him my address just IN case i ever needed an. 1109 00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:17,920 Speaker 1: Emergency, ride well ONE. 1110 00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,319 Speaker 4: Day i decided to confess to HIM that i had 1111 00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:24,080 Speaker 4: my first heartbreak from a past situationship that happened. AFTER 1112 00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,400 Speaker 4: him i told him that the other guy was the 1113 00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,719 Speaker 4: first guy fell for and that it broke me when 1114 00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:32,440 Speaker 4: things didn't work. OUT again i did this thinking that 1115 00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:34,960 Speaker 4: he was in a. Happy relationship he went silent and 1116 00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,399 Speaker 4: later that night texted me SAYING that i, hurt him 1117 00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,759 Speaker 4: that he, felt used AND that i led him on 1118 00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,920 Speaker 4: making him BELIEVE that i loved him when we. Dated 1119 00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,360 Speaker 4: again this was two. 1120 00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:49,759 Speaker 1: Years ago for, a, month dude a month in high, 1121 00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:53,000 Speaker 1: school relationships, that's like that's like. Ten years that's like. 1122 00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,919 Speaker 1: Ten years i'd give it a good like almost, six 1123 00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:59,759 Speaker 1: months maybe like a four six times multiplier, Five, months 1124 00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:01,799 Speaker 1: yeah something, like that four, to six four To six. 1125 00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:07,200 Speaker 1: I'm saying i'm saying, ten years one, hundred hundred. ONE hundred, 1126 00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:10,480 Speaker 1: i mean you're spending every, Day together you're seeing each 1127 00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:13,400 Speaker 1: other at school. Every day it's definitely a. BIG multiple 1128 00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,400 Speaker 1: i guess mooching in between my first kids was a two, 1129 00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,200 Speaker 1: week relationship, You know and how long does? That feel 1130 00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:21,600 Speaker 1: how important is that? To? You dude, that well now, 1131 00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:25,319 Speaker 1: doesn't matter you know at, the time it was at 1132 00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:28,200 Speaker 1: the time. WAS important i so brit with my HIGH. 1133 00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:31,480 Speaker 1: EMOTIONAL iq i asked. Her out the same afternoon she 1134 00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,040 Speaker 1: broke up with her. Other, boyfriend hey because she told 1135 00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,480 Speaker 1: me during, the relationship if she wasn't, with him she 1136 00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:40,040 Speaker 1: would be dating. Me Perfect and, john's like if one 1137 00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:44,399 Speaker 1: plus one, Equals two i'm a wrecking. That petition, oh 1138 00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:45,719 Speaker 1: god it was. SO bad i. 1139 00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:48,960 Speaker 4: Don't know it sounds like you saw a little little 1140 00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,920 Speaker 4: opening in the in the goalie, right there and the goalie. 1141 00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:52,680 Speaker 1: Wasn't there there's. 1142 00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,560 Speaker 4: WELL there, i mean it's like, it's soccer, you know 1143 00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,120 Speaker 4: the goalie steps out while the. 1144 00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:03,640 Speaker 1: Game's running days are you gonna? Shoot? It apparently apparently 1145 00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:06,960 Speaker 1: thirteen Year old john was. Just raised thirteen Year old 1146 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,680 Speaker 1: john's a, straight shooter, my friend thirteen year old job 1147 00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,920 Speaker 1: goes fin cringing so hard on, my lie you're not 1148 00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:16,240 Speaker 1: cringe for seizing the moment and carpaying. 1149 00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:21,200 Speaker 4: Those dams, oh baby never never. Do, THAT well i 1150 00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:24,319 Speaker 4: told him that was never my intention to, hurt him 1151 00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:26,640 Speaker 4: but it didn't matter now since he had a girlfriend 1152 00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:28,920 Speaker 4: and it. Was happy And, then john here we go 1153 00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:32,279 Speaker 4: the thing we never give it, to coming give it. 1154 00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:35,560 Speaker 4: To one no one, saw This, And john i'm gonna 1155 00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:38,759 Speaker 4: give it. To, you hey that confessed that she the 1156 00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:42,799 Speaker 4: love of, his life the girl of, his dreams and 1157 00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:44,400 Speaker 4: probably only in his dreams. 1158 00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:46,000 Speaker 1: And imagination she. 1159 00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:50,600 Speaker 4: Wasn't, real, yeah yes. THAT'S right i mean we. Saw 1160 00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:52,080 Speaker 4: it we saw it coming from a. MILE away a 1161 00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:54,200 Speaker 4: chat saw it coming from a. Mile away, too obvious, 1162 00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:57,560 Speaker 4: too obvious but, still fun, still fun. Still fun that 1163 00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:59,959 Speaker 4: he made her up and it was all a baby. 1164 00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:03,400 Speaker 1: Old ah he said that he made her up to 1165 00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:05,360 Speaker 1: cope with everything going on in. HIS life i. WAS 1166 00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:06,440 Speaker 1: shocked i didn't know how. 1167 00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,680 Speaker 4: To respond he told me that he had always been 1168 00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:10,200 Speaker 4: in love with me and that it hurt HIM that 1169 00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,279 Speaker 4: i didn't feel the. Same way he said that he 1170 00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:15,759 Speaker 4: expected me to leave him like everyone else in his 1171 00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,759 Speaker 4: life and go laugh about it with. My friends there, we, 1172 00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:22,200 Speaker 4: go smart playing the. Pity card maybe she'll be sad 1173 00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,839 Speaker 4: you and your fake ex girlfriend. 1174 00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,719 Speaker 1: Broke up they could be. With, you oh this is. 1175 00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:32,400 Speaker 4: So bad he said he was sick and passing away 1176 00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:36,080 Speaker 4: and that he didn't have much time. Left anyways let's 1177 00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:42,279 Speaker 4: go straight from fake girlfriend to. Fake, Illness, wow hey. 1178 00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,320 Speaker 1: Man's got the. Infinity. Stone bro. 1179 00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:48,400 Speaker 4: All, The, stops yeah all the stops except being like 1180 00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,880 Speaker 4: a good. Normal guy, yeah, no, no that's the path. 1181 00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:52,520 Speaker 4: He's doing all. 1182 00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:55,080 Speaker 2: The stops you, KNOW what, i mean next he's gonna 1183 00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,440 Speaker 2: pull like a princess diaries and he's gonna, BE like 1184 00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:00,200 Speaker 2: i just found Out that i'm actually a prince of a. 1185 00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,520 Speaker 1: FOREIGN country i have. TO leave i HAVE to i 1186 00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:07,239 Speaker 1: have to go with. My millions but HE said i was. 1187 00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:11,440 Speaker 4: The only thing bringing, him joy but he had messed 1188 00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:13,560 Speaker 4: it up AND now i was going to, leave him 1189 00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:16,600 Speaker 4: calling him a. CRAZY freak i felt like crap and 1190 00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:19,960 Speaker 4: told him that wasn't. Gonna, happen oh, let's go. It's working, 1191 00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:26,399 Speaker 4: say what, he's. Sick illness he doesn't want to talk. 1192 00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:28,760 Speaker 4: About it she goes to. Another school it's too hard. 1193 00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:34,080 Speaker 1: To Talk, OH god I wish i had, the strength but, 1194 00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:38,640 Speaker 1: you know. The medication the medications just sap in. My 1195 00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:42,480 Speaker 1: strength it has one weird side, effect though big Super 1196 00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:46,799 Speaker 1: COMB like i told you, my girlfriend, my girlfriend that 1197 00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:50,719 Speaker 1: was the only thing that. WASN'T that, i, like yeah 1198 00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:55,200 Speaker 1: it's like, really yea. YEAH yeah. 1199 00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:58,799 Speaker 4: I TOLD him i wasn't going, to leave AND that 1200 00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,719 Speaker 4: i understood EVEN if. I didn't i TOLD him i 1201 00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,640 Speaker 4: wasn't going to leave the friendship and that he should. 1202 00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:07,640 Speaker 4: Get help he said that he would help his f'd 1203 00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:09,440 Speaker 4: up mind AND that i was. 1204 00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:15,160 Speaker 1: His. Cure baby the, doctor said there's totally one cure 1205 00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:22,000 Speaker 1: for this illness he's. Afflicting. Me baby, it's you, it's you, 1206 00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:24,160 Speaker 1: he gets, he gets. 1207 00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:27,000 Speaker 3: What are? 1208 00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:30,319 Speaker 1: You saying your, chest friend honeybe eighty five says he's 1209 00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:37,520 Speaker 1: a Walking. For dora that's. So true oh, OH yes 1210 00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:41,560 Speaker 1: i love him, All RIGHT so i stayed. It, worked 1211 00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:45,520 Speaker 1: hey don't hate, the player hate. The game, OH no 1212 00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:46,759 Speaker 1: I thought i was. 1213 00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:50,279 Speaker 4: Helping him he stopped training after SCHOOL since i told 1214 00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:53,040 Speaker 4: my mom and she didn't feel safe with me being alone. 1215 00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:55,520 Speaker 4: WITH him i can. UNDERSTAND that i don't REMEMBER what i, 1216 00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:57,640 Speaker 4: told HIM but i remember he was a little. Bummed 1217 00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:00,200 Speaker 4: out he still gave me rides to our, step class 1218 00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:01,480 Speaker 4: which my parents. 1219 00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:06,200 Speaker 1: Didn't, know god tell. Your parents this guy is a. Crazy, 1220 00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:07,600 Speaker 1: person yeah a. 1221 00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:11,000 Speaker 4: Little mudge he swore that he RESPECTED that i wasn't, 1222 00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,520 Speaker 4: in damn and that he wasn't going to lose it on. 1223 00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:15,280 Speaker 4: Me again why do you trust? 1224 00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:19,760 Speaker 1: This? Guy, no no he invented a whole fake PERSON 1225 00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:20,759 Speaker 1: to i don't. 1226 00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,359 Speaker 4: Even know to get, YOUR sympathy i need to tell 1227 00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:27,239 Speaker 4: you how good he. Has Invented crazy crazy logic has 1228 00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:30,040 Speaker 4: continued for another few weeks before he lost it again 1229 00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:32,879 Speaker 4: because he was sick and tired THAT all i did 1230 00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:35,600 Speaker 4: was talk about. Other guys, he said he had given 1231 00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,880 Speaker 4: me everything. AND more i gave you a, fake girlfriend a. 1232 00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:42,719 Speaker 4: FAKE illness i drove you to, step classes but you 1233 00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:47,560 Speaker 4: won't step. To me he won't be my step to a. 1234 00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:49,399 Speaker 4: Better life, he said he give me everything and more 1235 00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:52,680 Speaker 4: and had done the impossible for me to be successful 1236 00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:56,080 Speaker 4: in my future. Military life he made it his mission 1237 00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,640 Speaker 4: to make me happy and to get me to step class. 1238 00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:00,960 Speaker 4: On time he told ME that i should look for 1239 00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:02,920 Speaker 4: my own rides and that he wasn't going to do 1240 00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:05,200 Speaker 4: anything for me ANYMORE since i didn't give him anything. 1241 00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:07,919 Speaker 1: IN return, i answered, all right we're getting. The retort here, 1242 00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,160 Speaker 1: WE go, I answered i put my. 1243 00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:14,000 Speaker 4: FOOT down, I Said I, shane SHANE and i didn't 1244 00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:16,480 Speaker 4: KNOW that i had to pay him back, for EVERYTHING 1245 00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:19,360 Speaker 4: since i thought it was never from the well being of. 1246 00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:21,680 Speaker 4: HIS heart i told HIM that i never begged him 1247 00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,200 Speaker 4: to do anything that he offered to, help me not 1248 00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:26,840 Speaker 4: the other. WAY around i told HIM that i hated 1249 00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,280 Speaker 4: having people offer to help me expecting something. In return 1250 00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:32,040 Speaker 4: he told me that he wished me, the best and 1251 00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:36,240 Speaker 4: we ended our, friendship There, but john there's a friendship 1252 00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:37,760 Speaker 4: that should never. 1253 00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:38,600 Speaker 1: Be ended oh? 1254 00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:40,800 Speaker 4: What's that and it's a friendship that can be created 1255 00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:44,800 Speaker 4: by listening to full episodes of this Podcast, In iHeartRadio, Apple, 1256 00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:48,800 Speaker 4: podcast spotify or wherever you get. Your podcast just go 1257 00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:52,160 Speaker 4: to a podcast site, Likes, S bottify apple, Podcast, search okay, 1258 00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:54,200 Speaker 4: story time do a little click, ay clock and then 1259 00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:57,120 Speaker 4: listen to two thousand plus episodes. 1260 00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:57,240 Speaker 1: Of stories just. 1261 00:57:57,320 --> 00:57:58,000 Speaker 2: Like this oh. 1262 00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:01,800 Speaker 4: That's good That. Is john it is now back. To 1263 00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:05,040 Speaker 4: me there's another relevant update here. We go but let's 1264 00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:08,200 Speaker 4: discuss what do we think about. FAKE boyfriend, i. 1265 00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:11,040 Speaker 1: Mean this is if you looked up in a textbook 1266 00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:16,760 Speaker 1: cringe af high school. Boyfriend energy this is exactly what. 1267 00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,200 Speaker 1: That is i'm always looking that up. In, textbooks dude 1268 00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:23,200 Speaker 1: He's he's he's given us The full schmorgis board of 1269 00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:26,680 Speaker 1: of all the things, you know the nice guy could 1270 00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:28,120 Speaker 1: possibly possibly. 1271 00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:32,680 Speaker 4: Pull, out yeah the nice guy bingo card is completely, marked, out. 1272 00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:35,600 Speaker 1: Completely bro we needed just another piece of a napkin 1273 00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:41,960 Speaker 1: just to, write, yeah, yeah yeah like. The, EXPANSION yeah, 1274 00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:44,480 Speaker 1: i mean hopefully this is A a, i know this is, 1275 00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:46,640 Speaker 1: high school, you know hopefully it's a learning lesson, To, 1276 00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:49,080 Speaker 1: op like, all right these are like things to look, 1277 00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:51,800 Speaker 1: out for like a good. Learning experience, maybe, Yeah. 1278 00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:56,240 Speaker 4: Yeah hey every red flag is an opportunity to not. 1279 00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:59,439 Speaker 4: Chase him there we, Get again Dame of honor twenty, 1280 00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:03,320 Speaker 4: twenty five, twenty five and you can, quote, that well 1281 00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:04,560 Speaker 4: we got a little bit more of. This story so 1282 00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:06,960 Speaker 4: the weird thing is that we were still in class 1283 00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:08,960 Speaker 4: together and he would try and make conversation with me like. 1284 00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,440 Speaker 4: Nothing happened he still lived the lie that he was 1285 00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:13,560 Speaker 4: in a happy relationship. With someone for the rest of the. 1286 00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:15,840 Speaker 4: School year he would always have this look on, his 1287 00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:18,520 Speaker 4: FACE and i always had this weird feeling. About Him if, 1288 00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:20,560 Speaker 4: I'M honest i didn't feel safe with him after his, 1289 00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:23,040 Speaker 4: initial CONFESSION but i was scared that he was going 1290 00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:24,960 Speaker 4: to hurt ME if. I left i know it's been 1291 00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:28,400 Speaker 4: sometimes since, this happened but honestly still feels, So UNSETTLING 1292 00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:29,760 Speaker 4: and i don't KNOW what i would DO if i 1293 00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:31,880 Speaker 4: ever ran into. HIM again i Guess what i'm, asking 1294 00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:34,800 Speaker 4: is was there any way of? Avoiding this was it actually? 1295 00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:36,800 Speaker 4: My fault and WHAT do i DO if i ever 1296 00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:37,360 Speaker 4: run into? 1297 00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:37,880 Speaker 2: Him? 1298 00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:41,120 Speaker 1: Again john what do? You? THINK uh opi literally not 1299 00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:45,360 Speaker 1: at all. Your fault this was fully a. PSYCHOMAN behavior, 1300 00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:48,080 Speaker 1: i thinks, just like distance yourself as much. As possible 1301 00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:53,000 Speaker 1: summer's almost, hear hags so, You, know an it's your, 1302 00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:55,720 Speaker 1: senior YEAR so, i think just like ride it out 1303 00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:59,160 Speaker 1: and try to get as much space as humanly possible. 1304 00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:01,800 Speaker 1: From him you probably won't ever have to see him 1305 01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:02,200 Speaker 1: again after. 1306 01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:04,720 Speaker 4: YOU graduate, I mean i think if there was something 1307 01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:07,120 Speaker 4: to learn from this is trust. YOUR gut i, mean 1308 01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:09,280 Speaker 4: you you was a little, weird initially and then you 1309 01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:13,000 Speaker 4: became friends, with him and like all this, whole girlfriend fake, 1310 01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:18,040 Speaker 4: girlfriend stuff beyond the illness stuff. LIKE that i feel 1311 01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:20,240 Speaker 4: like that should be setting up red flags for you in. 1312 01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:23,440 Speaker 1: The, future yeah you don't know him anything anything for, 1313 01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:25,560 Speaker 1: that matter but that is where that, Story, Ends JUN 1314 01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:30,120 Speaker 1: and i think that is where this. Episode ends it is. 1315 01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:31,120 Speaker 1: It's over. 1316 01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:34,000 Speaker 4: It's over so if you, love us make sure To 1317 01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:36,400 Speaker 4: subscribe we love you and see