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Speaker 1: be analyzed and especially in this present day climate all

431
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Speaker 1: over the place, we are instructed and feel that we

432
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Speaker 1: need to believe every allegation to ensure we're not victims shaming,

433
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Speaker 1: But at what cost to the accused valor as well

434
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Speaker 1: their reputation as well? So um and I think the

435
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,679
Speaker 1: most difficult part about this is when these stories are

436
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 1: presented in this holistic fashion and then small details are analyzed,

437
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 1: is that it doesn't necessarily have to do with the

438
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Speaker 1: veracity at all, As you're saying, it can be true, true,

439
00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 1: and unrelated, but how do we know? And that's what's

440
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 1: so hard about a jury, or a person or anyone listening,

441
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 1: anyone tasks with this decision, and it's made harder when

442
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:12,199
Speaker 1: the accused is so vociferously defending against it. Yeah, this

443
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,360
Speaker 1: is all who do you believe? Much more so right now,

444
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 1: right now, at least, it's it's who do you believe?

445
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 1: More so than we're presenting evidence whether the specific incident

446
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,919
Speaker 1: in question happened or not. Right, it's which side do

447
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 1: you find more credible in this whole dispute. They're not

448
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 1: presenting more evidence about the day in question where there

449
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 1: was the alleged assault. This is now all about handwriting

450
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 1: that would have been later on, or I meaning it

451
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,880
Speaker 1: would have been later on. It's essentially if somebody lie,

452
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 1: if someone is caught in a lie here about anything

453
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,159
Speaker 1: that will harm them, even if it has nothing to

454
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 1: do with the actual allegation of previous criminal behavior, totally,

455
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 1: And that's the point. Humans are complex. That's what we

456
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 1: deal with every days, attorneys. That's what we deal with

457
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 1: every day in our human relationships. Could people do bad things,

458
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,400
Speaker 1: bad people do good things? How do you separate? How

459
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,200
Speaker 1: do you how do you truly denounce an entire person

460
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 1: for an inconsistency or I if they've cried wolf once

461
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 1: or if they haven't cried once. I mean, it's just

462
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,239
Speaker 1: it's so complicated. But I think what's interesting is the

463
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,120
Speaker 1: fact that we're having this conversation means that we are

464
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 1: in the minutia of their defense, and that was the strategy.

465
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: We are all now dissecting handwriting and inconsistent statements and credibility,

466
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 1: I mean under the rubric of credibility, which is important,

467
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 1: but it also when you kind of scope out begs

468
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: the original question of if someone is accused at all,

469
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 1: if there's any question at all, is that someone that

470
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 1: should be in the position that they still are is

471
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 1: this is a political decision, This is not really a

472
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 1: legal decision, but it's being viewed through a legal prism

473
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: right now. But there's not going to be a trial.

474
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 1: No one thinks their world, there's not going to be charges,

475
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,640
Speaker 1: no one thinks their will. It's what do people think.

476
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: It's all about what people think. Emily compon you everybody

477
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 1: here in studio with us. She's legal in sports business analysts.

478
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 1: You can follow her at Emily Companio on Twitter. Emily,

479
00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: We're gonna have you talked about Weinstein a little later.

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00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 1: So thank you so much for being here. We are

481
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 1: lit in the Freedom hunt here. Every single line lead

482
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: up as we take calls, spots, and the opening up

483
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: I know it was. It was lit up like a

484
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 1: Christmas tree soon as I opened up those lines. So

485
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 1: here we go, let's get into it. Dawn in Texas

486
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 1: on the I Heart Appay, Dawn, Hi, Can you hear me? Yes, ma'am?

487
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 1: What's on your mind? Um? I thought that you're proven,

488
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 1: You're innocent until proven guilty, and it seems like everyone

489
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: seems to think that Roy Moore is guilty. I have

490
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 1: had experience, Um, bet a sight nurse. Um, knowing that

491
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: I've had a friend that a girl accused of ripe

492
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: that came up the resteding after we were all saying

493
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: he didn't do it, and he sent the night in jail.

494
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 1: She said that she lied what she did. And then

495
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 1: I've had a family member and three thousand dollars. I

496
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 1: think we just lost her there. We didn't cut her off.

497
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 1: I think it just dropped on. Do we lose you? Oh?

498
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: Oh's I blame Soros, the Soros conspiracy. I did not

499
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 1: like her phone calls, so I cut it off. The

500
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 1: tele communications, I control them all. Uh, Soros is scary.

501
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 1: J C in Virginia on w P T I j C.

502
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 1: What's up? Hey, j Hey buck, how are you doing?

503
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 1: First time listener and caller by the way, Well, fantastic, sir,

504
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 1: thank you, I love you. Show Um. Well, I like

505
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 1: to make a disclosure real quick. Uh. I don't speak

506
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: for all Virginia's I think above Richmond is North Virginia.

507
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 1: Anything blue, Uh that is southern Virginia. So just throw

508
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 1: that out there. But back to the more thing. I

509
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: really do think this is my personal opinion that you know,

510
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 1: if the guy is guilty, that's fine, he needs to

511
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: go to jail or resign or whatever he needs to do.

512
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: But why wait for forty years until you come clean? Uh?

513
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 1: The lady that and and well it's ladies, there's a

514
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: bunch of there's a there's a there's a bunch of accusers. Now,

515
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I get that, I understand that, but it's

516
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 1: it's it's really funny to me that they wait until

517
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: he's fixing to go through election to do this. And

518
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:26,479
Speaker 1: the other thing is, Um, if you watch when she

519
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 1: was with uh, why I think alread of all things,

520
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 1: that's crazy anyway, But anyway, um, when she got on

521
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 1: the press conference, he read out with she you know

522
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 1: she was he was accused of why do you have

523
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 1: to read something off of a piece of paper if

524
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:48,959
Speaker 1: you can, you know, is it for memory, perfect, you know,

525
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 1: purposes or what. It's just kind of crazy why she

526
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 1: had to read a statement and she can't express her

527
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 1: I'll be honestly, it's not uncommon, especially when there could

528
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Speaker 1: be legal ramifications. You could be sued for defamation to

529
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:06,719
Speaker 1: write out to write out a statement. So I I

530
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: I gotta I just I gotta point that out for you. Um.

531
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 1: And then in terms of why they waited for so long.

532
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: I don't have an answer to that. But I mean, look,

533
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: if I was a woman and I got you know,

534
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 1: you know, in trouble with a guy, bob me or

535
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 1: whatever they was doing to me, I'm going to report that. Thanks. Well,

536
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 1: I wait that long. That's just crazy to me. I

537
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: don't understand why. I mean, I understand, you know, he

538
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: was the d a. Maybe she was afraid or whatever,

539
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 1: but it's just funny now that she waited this long

540
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: to do it, and you know, especially when he's fixing

541
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: to uh go through. Look at a lot of a

542
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: lot of people have been calling into the show and

543
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: saying they think that they think that they smell something

544
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: something foul at work here. They think that there's this

545
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: is all a political hit, jac So you're not alone

546
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 1: on that one. I appreciate you calling in from Virginia

547
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: and Shields High and thank you for joining the Freedom

548
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 1: Hunt family here. I wonder if Jacy heard that yesterday

549
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: I had a family and uh family in Charlottesville, Virginia. Family.

550
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: Uh you know, one day I'll do an impersonation of

551
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: my Charlottesville grandmother on the show. She was she was

552
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 1: quite a quite a character and had had quite an accent.

553
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 1: It was great. Uh, Chris in North in North Hampshire,

554
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 1: Chris in New Hampshire. Buck, work on your states, listen

555
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: to the I heart. Hey Chris, you're doing Bucks? Yeah?

556
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: You know. I I really am just another one of

557
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: those people that are saying something smells. I mean, certainly

558
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 1: nobody wants to be the first person to go ahead

559
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: and say you've made an allegation of sexual impropriety or

560
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 1: whatever and to discredit them just right off the bat.

561
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: It does. It does smell of of a political owner. Here.

562
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: Did you hear the show, Chris where I said, because

563
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: I really remember this very very strongly, and actually a

564
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: couple of my family members I think would would would

565
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: back me up on this. At asked that when I

566
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 1: read the initial Rolling Stone piece about the UVA fraternity,

567
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: I was just like, NA, that doesn't that doesn't sound

568
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: that doesn't sound right to me. But I don't want

569
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: to go public with it because you don't want to

570
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: be the guy who says that you don't believe a horrific,

571
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 1: violent gang rape story and it's true right now, you're

572
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: some kind of monster. But as we know, that was

573
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: a complete and utter fabrication. But the forces that you

574
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 1: deal with, the forces are raid against you if you're

575
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 1: wrong on something like that, are are considerable, Yes, sir,

576
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: we're listening to you. Okay, good Um. I I totally

577
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: agree with you. Know. I'm glad that we're we're in

578
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: agreeance with that, and I really think that. But aren't

579
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: there aren't there a lot of accusers? Chris? I mean, look,

580
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: can we at least agree that there's there's a lot

581
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: of accusers here? So you know, if it were one

582
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 1: person with one claim, but but now, you know, think

583
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: about it this way. If these women are being coerced

584
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 1: in any way to testify, all it takes is one

585
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: of them to decide that you know, she doesn't she

586
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: doesn't want to do this anymore and say, you know what,

587
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 1: they coerced and then the whole thing falls down, right,

588
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 1: So it's not a Conspiracies are complicated, which is why

589
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:23,720
Speaker 1: they're usually not true. Yes, And I think that allowing

590
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:30,240
Speaker 1: do process to do its process, um is going to

591
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 1: bring to light whatever we need. I hear you, Chris.

592
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 1: Thank you for calling in from, as I said, North

593
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 1: Hampshire or New Hampshire rather wonderful state Granite state. Right,

594
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 1: this is what people whatever, there's like whatever, it's primary season.

595
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 1: Ever ever learns what the state's other name is because

596
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 1: you just want to keep repeating the name of the state.

597
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 1: So uh like next up is no, Florida is a

598
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 1: sunshine state. Hawaii must be the Aloha state, right Aloha.

599
00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: We got Lonnie in Hawaii on the irt app. Hey, Lonnie, Hey,

600
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 1: how you doing. I'm not in Hawaili and from West Virginia,

601
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: but your your screen caller girl. The last time I

602
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: called in, I thought I sounded familiar someone from Hawaii.

603
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 1: But I'm Lonnie. I'm a talk driver. I listen to

604
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: you every night from six to nine on the I

605
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 1: Heart app. What what what? I? What I found interesting

606
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: in that press conference was the statement that his lawyer

607
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 1: made about her that and if you play it again

608
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: and listen to her closely, he says that the judge

609
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: dismissed her divorce against her husband. He you know, so

610
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: she's she's uh do you think she has motie? You're

611
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,919
Speaker 1: saying she has motive Lonnie to get some payback. I do.

612
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 1: I do. And I know that liberals are dirty and

613
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: they'll do anything in the world. But when it was Obama.

614
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: It was always racism, was it not? All you had

615
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,320
Speaker 1: to do was label the manner racist and he's done. Correct.

616
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 1: It is true that right now someone is if someone

617
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 1: is is labeled or accused of being a a you know,

618
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: sexual misconduct, sexual harass or sexual assault or any of

619
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: these things, it's you're it's lights out, you're finished. Yeah, yeah,

620
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 1: you're done. You're done. You're done. And so they'll they'll

621
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: you know, and I and and I and I hate

622
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: for any woman to be assaulted. He he's a scumbag, okay,

623
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: but once again, we don't know. And you know, I

624
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: think she has motives if you go back and listen

625
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 1: to his you know, I think I think, Lonnie, that's

626
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 1: why they included that part in the press conference. Clearly,

627
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 1: so you're a stute to pick up on why the

628
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 1: more camp would would want that to be out there.

629
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: So I hear you, man, Thank you for your support,

630
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: and thank you for listening to the show. I do

631
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Shields high one more before we do we

632
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 1: have time for no, now we don't. It's only more calls, guys.

633
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 1: So like like we did the other day, I will

634
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: get into a couple more calls here because I want

635
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 1: to hear a lot of perspectives on this issue. Remember,

636
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 1: we just had another accuser come out now right more

637
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 1: we came on air, just had a press conference Judge

638
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 1: More eight four four to five, eight four four nine Buck,

639
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: We've got a spot or two open down the line, Scoose.

640
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Speaker 1: You took a couple of calls and got some other calls.

641
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Speaker 1: We will get to if you can hold through the break.

642
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 1: If you can't, well, then we will um move on

643
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 1: to another topic. Probably, but if the lines are lit,

644
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 1: I'll run some calls here because I want to get

645
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 1: your I want to get your voices in, and then

646
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: we can talk about fusion GPS, a little bit of

647
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 1: the latest on that, and maybe some tax talk. Whoa

648
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: taxes um. We got a lot of stuff coming. Eight

649
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: four four to eight to five. We are live. We

650
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 1: want to hear from you. Give us a ring. We're

651
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 1: back in a few Welcome back team. We are talking

652
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: about the Roly Moore situation, which there's more and more information.

653
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: He's he's dug in. He is not backing off at all.

654
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,320
Speaker 1: He had a press conference at five eastern today. A

655
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: lawyer held the press conference for him. Saying that they

656
00:37:56,080 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 1: want verification, they want the up tunity to verify, and

657
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:05,760
Speaker 1: I think obviously they would want to debunk this note

658
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 1: left in uh Nelson his accusers yearbook. There are other accusers.

659
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: I've been mentioned to you. There was, in fact, an

660
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,839
Speaker 1: additional accuser now says she was groped by more a

661
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: long time ago. I think in the nineties in his

662
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,399
Speaker 1: law office that brand new that was an Alabama dot

663
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: com um. And I also have for you here an

664
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 1: open letter from Roy Moore to uh Well, to Sean Hannity.

665
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: But it's an open letter so we can all see it.

666
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 1: He's what he writes, Dear Sean, I am suffering the

667
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: same treatment other Republicans have had to endure. A month

668
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: prior to the general election for U. S. Senate Alabama,

669
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: I've been attacked by the Washington Post and other and

670
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: other liberal media in a desperate attempt to smear my

671
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 1: character and defeat my campaign. Over the last forty years,

672
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: I've held several public offices. He goes through all the offices.

673
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,800
Speaker 1: In addition to running five statewide and three county campaigns

674
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 1: for public office, I've been involved in two major controversies

675
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 1: that attracted national attention, one about the tech Commandments and

676
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 1: the other the sanctity of marriage. Uh The Alabama Judicial

677
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 1: Inquiry Commission, Court of the Judiciary and Attorney General have investigated, scrutinized, examined,

678
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 1: and vetted me not to mention every opposing candidate against

679
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: whom I have run. I'm married for almost thirty three

680
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: years to my wife, Kayla. We have four children and

681
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: five granddaughters. We are in the process of investigating these

682
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:33,280
Speaker 1: false allegations to determine their origin and motivation. For instance,

683
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: we have documented that the most recent accuser, Beverly Nelson,

684
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: was a party in a divorce action before me in

685
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 1: uh Etowah County Circuit Court. In no motion was made

686
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: for me to recuse. In her accusations, Nelson did not

687
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: mention that I was the judge assigned to her divorce

688
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: case in a matter that apparently caused her no distress

689
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: at a time that was eighteen years closer to the

690
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 1: alleged assaul Yet eighteen years later, while talking before the

691
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,760
Speaker 1: cameras about the supposed assault, she seemingly could not contain

692
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: her emotions. My signature on the order of dismissal in

693
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 1: the divorce case was annotated with the letters d A,

694
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 1: representing the initials of my court assistant. Curiously, the supposed

695
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 1: yearbook inscription is also followed by the same initials d A,

696
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 1: but at that time I was Deputy District Attorney, not

697
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: District Attorney. Those initials, as well as the date under

698
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 1: the signature block and the printed name of the restaurant,

699
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: are written in a style inconsistent with the rest of

700
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: the yearbook inscription. The sevens in Christmas nineteen seventy seven

701
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,320
Speaker 1: are a noticeably different script than the sevens in the

702
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: date twelve seventy seven. I believe tampering has occurred. Are

703
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 1: we at a stage in American politics in which false

704
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 1: allegations can overcome a public record of forty years stampede

705
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 1: the media and politicians to condemn innocent man and potentially

706
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 1: impact the outcome of an election of national importance? When

707
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 1: illegations of events, uh, when allegations of events, false allegations

708
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 1: can overcome a public record. Whoops, sorry, I'm running. I'm

709
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: actually I lost the last page here, but you get

710
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:12,959
Speaker 1: the idea, and that was an end quote there except

711
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 1: for my whoops. You understand this is openly he's saying

712
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: no way. He's saying it's all fake, attacking specifically the

713
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:25,399
Speaker 1: allegation from Beverly Nelson and the yearbook inscription. But he's saying,

714
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: it's all it's all a lie. Ah, this is this

715
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: is quite a situation we find ourselves in. My friends.

716
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 1: All right, we got well every line lit. Let's take

717
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: some calls and we'll get into it. Sadie in Boston,

718
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 1: thank you for holding Hi. How you welcome back? Oh,

719
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 1: thank you, I'm good. Before I get to my point,

720
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: I give my undergraduate at the University of Virginia and Charlottesville,

721
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 1: I'll tell you that is a beautiful city in April,

722
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,919
Speaker 1: when all those dogwoods and this they all use her out,

723
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 1: it is gorgeous. So your grandmother, she lives in a

724
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: lovely lovely grandmother and my uncle, yeah, yeah, I can

725
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 1: still she she unfortunately passed some years ago back and

726
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 1: still here, young buck buck just like that. Now we

727
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 1: don't do that. And anyway, our pro was interesting. I

728
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: would just want to take a distance, just a step back.

729
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 1: When the lady was talking about her incident that happened, Uh,

730
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, when I saw Gloria, I thought, well,

731
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 1: my word, this just appears, she appears to be a

732
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 1: mediaHo and she sits there and every time something like

733
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 1: this comes up, I wondered who was picking up this

734
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: chap for her? Again, she is not cheap. She cost

735
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,800
Speaker 1: a lot of bucks, and I don't think these women

736
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: have that money to be able to put you. Don't

737
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: think Gloria already for the headlines here? It would take

738
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: this pro bono. I mean, if we're going to drill

739
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: down into your theory, I mean that's I know plenty

740
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 1: of lawyers that will do that on a contingency basis

741
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: or on a pro bono basis. Well, I think I

742
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 1: think it does bring to light just like when you

743
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:15,439
Speaker 1: see Jesse Jackson running after the race card every time

744
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:19,879
Speaker 1: you turn around. Uh yes, I think it is for visibility,

745
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: that's for sure, But the it also substantiates I feel

746
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 1: the motivation to uh, you know, it's self propelling and

747
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 1: this is just an opportunity. But she can get out

748
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: there and um bully the American people one more time

749
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: with her clients. So you're, for you a big, big

750
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: red flag here, Sadie. Is that Gloria. The fact that

751
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: Gloria already is involved period for you is an issue. Oh, absolutely, absolutely, yes,

752
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 1: that is definitely it. All right, Well, Sadie, thank you

753
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:58,760
Speaker 1: so much for hold. We've got a Boston caller from Sadie.

754
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: Sadie Shields High. I think so much. Uh, let's take um,

755
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,399
Speaker 1: let's take Darby in Texas on the I Heart app.

756
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 1: Hey Darby, Hey Buck, how you doing, man, it's been

757
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 1: a while. I'm glad to talk to you again. You too,

758
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 1: Thank you for calling. Absolutely probably gonna ego some previous colors,

759
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 1: But I think that I think you've made a good

760
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: point when you said that conspiracy is unlikely because it's

761
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 1: very hard for that many people to get together at

762
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:26,919
Speaker 1: one time. It's very complicated, very difficult thing to do.

763
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 1: I think he's probably guilty. The only thing that worries

764
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: me is that we have reached a point where he

765
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 1: is guilty before proven innocent, and at this point it's

766
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 1: really sort of his word against someone else's, and I

767
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: feel like that's a really dangerous place for us to be,

768
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: especially in the light of all the things that are

769
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,760
Speaker 1: going on now with Hollywood and all these media executives

770
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:45,839
Speaker 1: and everything else. And I know you've been talking about

771
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 1: this quite a bit. That's just kind of a scary

772
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 1: place for us to be in America. I just want

773
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: to give your thoughts on that. Oh, absolutely, Darby. I mean, look,

774
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: let's just let's step aside from the really more specifics

775
00:44:55,520 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: for a second. And just given the current climate over

776
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: all these as I say that the purge of the

777
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: perverts that's going on in Hollywood, and and I think,

778
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: by the way, it's coming to Capitol Hill too. I

779
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 1: I it's not gonna be as bad as like the

780
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 1: Weinstein spacey stuff, but we're gonna see some women I think,

781
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: come forward and and I think they're gonna talk about

782
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 1: what's been going on with all these politicos in d

783
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: C for all. But anyway, um My my concern here

784
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 1: is that and look, they tried this with Trump, right,

785
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 1: that was what the whole NBC news tape and the

786
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 1: Billy Bush and all that stuff was about. Um my

787
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: concern is that they will now be now that they

788
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: have had very uh not just credible, but confirmed corroborated

789
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 1: allegations against a lot of hope, high profile people, that

790
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 1: now the left can pick somebody and if we're talking

791
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 1: about something that's either much lesser offense or just fabricated wholesale.

792
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 1: They can destroy someone before they have any ability to

793
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 1: mount any real defense, right. I mean, if you're a

794
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 1: media person, for example, and they get together, you know,

795
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: even just one accusation now sexual harassment, and certain outlets

796
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 1: pick that up, you might have all your sponsors drop

797
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 1: and you may be fired before you get a chance

798
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: to do anything about it. And so we should just

799
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:17,800
Speaker 1: be aware that, you know, every case has to be

800
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: evaluated on the specifics and on its merits. It can't

801
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 1: be oh, this is a movement, you know, it can't

802
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 1: be Oh, this is just the cost of doing business.

803
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 1: Is that innocent people are going to get caught up

804
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,760
Speaker 1: in this as well, because it's so important to reform

805
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 1: the system. Right. That's and we know democrats will go

806
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 1: there just a question to win. Oh they will. And

807
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 1: one of the things that I one of the one

808
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 1: of my favorite terms that I've heard you saying. I

809
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 1: use it all the time, is that the process of

810
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: the punishment with democrats, that's their point. They will. They

811
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: will destroy you as a sport and as long as

812
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: they get as long as their means justifies the ends,

813
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 1: everything's fine, doesn't matter true or not. So yeah, anyway,

814
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 1: I'll let you go. Yeah, man, she's high. Darby, thank you,

815
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 1: thank you so much for calling. And yeah, the if

816
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: the ends justify the means for Democrat, that's all they need. Uh,

817
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: we will take um Mark North Carolina, w p t

818
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 1: I Hey Mark, Hello Bruck. Thank you so much for

819
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 1: taking my call. I'm gonna play a little bit of

820
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: a role here. This reminds me a lot of that

821
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 1: movie My Cousin Vinny, where they thought those two boys

822
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 1: in and practically had them ready for the electric chair

823
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 1: before there was any cross examination. Two. Yeah, those utes

824
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 1: and and I mean those witnesses when you watch that movie,

825
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 1: they're about as credible as you can ask for. You know,

826
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 1: they saw him coming out, me jump in the car

827
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,919
Speaker 1: and spun off of you know, the old nine yards,

828
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: and they were guilty. And but I'm gonna put I'm

829
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 1: gonna give you some cross examination type things to think

830
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: about that nobody has brought up. I'm sixty three years old.

831
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: I was in the seventies and there was a social

832
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 1: climate in the seventies that I'm very familiar with. But

833
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 1: I don't think a lot of the millennials or the

834
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 1: gen actors are First of all, you're high school annual

835
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 1: comes out at the end of the year. It's it

836
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 1: is a book that represents your graduating class, and towards

837
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 1: the end of the year, when everybody's going off to

838
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: different colleges, you take it around and you get your

839
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 1: friends to see and they put their name in it. Well,

840
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 1: you don't give it to everybody. You only give it

841
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 1: to your friends, right, And when your friends sign it,

842
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: they typically sign it Joe or Bob or Mary, and

843
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:40,720
Speaker 1: you know, if you're a guy. And also the people

844
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 1: to give you their annuals, that's an indication that that

845
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 1: they like you, you're one of you know, you're one

846
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: of their kind of Yeah, I definitely didn't go down

847
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 1: to the distric attorney's office here to get a signature

848
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 1: for it. Definitely. Well, I mean if a cheerleader comes

849
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 1: up and hands me her annual, like, hey, I'm yeah,

850
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: I'll sign it, you know, because it's an indication of friendship. Yeah,

851
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,839
Speaker 1: and you're friend and you're in high school. Sure. Yeah, right,

852
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:08,280
Speaker 1: So now we've got this signature in this annual in December?

853
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 1: Was that December? The following year, like eight months later,

854
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 1: nobody's signing annuals in December. That's that's crazy. Everybody's off

855
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: to college or whatever, and you don't take it into

856
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 1: the restaurant to have it sitting on the counter and

857
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 1: wait for a you know, a good looking d a

858
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 1: to come in. You slide it over there, like, hey, honey,

859
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 1: do you mind signing my annual? I know you're a

860
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 1: big wig at the def depth courthouse. No, the only

861
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 1: adults that ever signed an annual are tea teachers. Yeah,

862
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 1: teachers and coaches. Okay, now I'm gonna jump over to

863
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 1: the other the no, No, same girl. She's in the

864
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 1: car they drove around the back to the restaurant. He's

865
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 1: you know, trying to get the second base or whatever

866
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:52,399
Speaker 1: it is, and she wants to run away. Well, now

867
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,919
Speaker 1: she's at the restaurant. She knows where she is, right,

868
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 1: but he reaches over and locks the door. Well, this

869
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 1: is nineteen seventy seven. Okay, I don't even know if

870
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 1: he's driving a new car. If he's driving a car

871
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 1: like I was driving, all you have to do is

872
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 1: reach over at your shoulder as the passenger and unlocked

873
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 1: the door. The big old knobs sitting right there. There

874
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 1: aren't any automatical lights, you know, lots there's no child's safety, lots,

875
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,800
Speaker 1: none of that unless you know he's a serial rapist

876
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:23,439
Speaker 1: and he's pulled the handles off. But the other thing

877
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 1: in this whole thing that doesn't make any sense. And

878
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,799
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a little bit of a I

879
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 1: can't think of the word I want to use. But

880
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 1: my father was a Baptist minister, okay, and he married

881
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: my mother and I was the second child. But my

882
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 1: dad had a thing for the women, and before he

883
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 1: died he had married seven women. Okay, doesn't look good

884
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: on the Baptist resume, but it was obvious that he

885
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 1: had a character flaw. Nice guy could charm the socks

886
00:50:56,239 --> 00:51:01,359
Speaker 1: off of anybody, but he didn't had a flaw. Well,

887
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: we're expected to believe that this guy has running around

888
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 1: doing all this, you know, crazy, you know, groping and

889
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:11,280
Speaker 1: sexual misconduct and all that, and then all of a sudden,

890
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 1: when he turned thirty three, which I think is the

891
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 1: date that he would be married, he's had a perfectly

892
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 1: happy marriage, faithful, you know, four daughters, five grandkids, never strayed.

893
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: That's that's an amazing character transformation for a man who's,

894
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:32,840
Speaker 1: you know, got the eye for the young girls and

895
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. It doesn't happen that way. If you

896
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 1: are a flawed character, you continue to be flagged for

897
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:46,320
Speaker 1: most of your life, no matter how hard you try.

898
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 1: All right, Mark, I'm gonna I'm gonna leave it there, man.

899
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: I appreciate you calling in, and I think that the more,

900
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 1: the more squad should they should bring Mark on. Mark

901
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 1: just made a more articulate and forceful case in defense

902
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 1: of at least reasonable doubt here for Judge, more than

903
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:06,360
Speaker 1: anything I've heard from any of the lawyers. So I

904
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 1: don't know if Mark is a lawyer, but he certainly

905
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 1: would be much much more adept at defending or at

906
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 1: least raising doubts in favor of Roy more than what

907
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:19,320
Speaker 1: I've seen thus far from his legal team. Well, the

908
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: five PM press conference, guy was was pretty squared away. Alright, alright, everybody,

909
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: I think we can all we can all sort of

910
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:30,800
Speaker 1: sit back now, maybe you know, crack the knuckles, stretch

911
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 1: out the back, whatever you gotta do. I think we're

912
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:37,399
Speaker 1: gonna leave behind the Roy Moore discussion for today. It's

913
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 1: not going away, so we're probably gonna have more more

914
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:45,400
Speaker 1: accusations tomorrow, more facts to throw into this I do

915
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: not think tyrone is is he stepping down? What do

916
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 1: you think? What's your I know, I I think no way,

917
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:52,800
Speaker 1: no how at this point short short of an actual

918
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,399
Speaker 1: criminal indictment, which no one's thinking there's anything like that

919
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 1: that could happen, because no matter what, right, no way.

920
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 1: And one quick thing, the accuser that was debunked, that

921
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 1: was attempted to be debunked, is now willing to testify

922
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 1: under oath. Oh okay, we'll see. We will see where

923
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 1: this goes. Everybody, We're gonna take quick break. We'll be

924
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 1: right back. Culturally speaking, I'm gonna say there's differences looked

925
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 1: up Ali's background there. Wow, that's awesome that you have

926
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 1: got a such a diverse background. It's really cool to

927
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:25,760
Speaker 1: read through that. Please answer, what is Ali Velshi's background

928
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 1: have to do with dating under children fourteen year old girls? Sure,

929
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 1: in other in other countries, there's arrangement through parents for

930
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 1: what we would first from Canada into a marriage. So

931
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 1: Alie from Canniston, Yeah, that was I know, I said,

932
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 1: we live. This isn't really about Roy Moore. This is

933
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:48,320
Speaker 1: just about what what not to do on TV or

934
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 1: in general. Um, it involves the Roy Moore case. But

935
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 1: that was the name is Trenton Garman, Is that right? Yeah?

936
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,280
Speaker 1: It was the attorney who was one of the attorneys

937
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 1: for Roy Moore. And and I guess he wasn't I

938
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 1: guess he was trying to establish some degree of of

939
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 1: rapport or something with the hosts there. And so he's like,

940
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 1: you know, Ali knows because of Ali Velshi is of

941
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 1: South Asian descent but was born and raised in Canada.

942
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 1: He's a he is a Canadian Canadian A he is Canadian.

943
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 1: Uh So to look at the host and to say, well,

944
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 1: you know you know about that because of different cultures

945
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 1: not is what we would say that That was not

946
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 1: a smooth move from the attorney. For more, this got

947
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 1: I just wanted you all to be aware of it.

948
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 1: This got a lot of a lot of play in

949
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 1: the media today. Um and you can imagine they were

950
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 1: all jumping on this because an underlying narrative in this

951
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 1: whole discussion is that the media really doesn't like Alabama

952
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:01,840
Speaker 1: and that that's an underlying point here with all this,

953
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 1: that that the media looks down at the South, particularly

954
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 1: that the deep South threat and the deep red states

955
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 1: in the South that vote for Republicans, and so anything

956
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:19,400
Speaker 1: that they can do that focuses in on those stereotypes,

957
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 1: anything that this was on MSNBC. So this they could

958
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 1: not have been happier than this. But anything they can

959
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 1: do to show a bunch of uh, you know, red

960
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 1: state Bible thumping, you know, hillbilly types on TV, they'll

961
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 1: jump at that opportunity to mock people and to deride them.

962
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 1: And and with this guy though, I gotta say, they

963
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 1: weren't even he decided to do this on his own.

964
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 1: This was on him, right, This is on So like,

965
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 1: don't given that they're trying to do that to begin with,

966
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 1: you shouldn't this guy, Trent Garman shouldn't be making their

967
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 1: job any easier of oh, you know, and look at

968
00:55:57,080 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 1: this guy, this bigoted guy from Alabama, because you know,

969
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:06,240
Speaker 1: you get a lot of a lot of condescension, stereotyping,

970
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 1: and general derision from the media about places like Alabama

971
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:14,360
Speaker 1: in general. So anyway, it is they just need to

972
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:17,839
Speaker 1: be any lawyers, anybody to attached the Roy Moore needs

973
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 1: to be disciplined in the messaging and know what the

974
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 1: heck they're doing. Um fusion GPS, getting a lot of uh,

975
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 1: get a lot of attention today as well with the

976
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 1: latest on that. Yeah, those hearings earlier in the week.

977
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what's going on there. And uh also, oh,

978
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 1: by the way, those are basketball players m c l A.

979
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:40,319
Speaker 1: They came back and they actually had some words to

980
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 1: say for or President Trump. So yeah, I would also

981
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:51,320
Speaker 1: like to thank presidents in the United States government for

982
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 1: the help that they provided as little. So there's some

983
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 1: good news there. We'll be back with the GPS story.

984
00:56:56,680 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 1: Stay with me, the dacier c A my friends more

985
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 1: on this. So Fusion GPS just quick recap here. Fusion

986
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:11,279
Speaker 1: GPS was hired by the d n C during the

987
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 1: Hillary campaign for the presidency. Using GPS contracted Christopher Steele

988
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 1: to go dig up dirt on Donald Trump in Russia

989
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 1: and all along this. As this is happening, there are

990
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 1: investing there. There are communications that are going on between

991
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 1: the press and Fusion GPS, we find out, and also

992
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 1: the FBI was looking into this. The FBI may have

993
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 1: even paid for some of the Darcy expenses. There is

994
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 1: still a lot here that we do not know that

995
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 1: we should know. And Katherine Herrid who's a a formidable

996
00:57:55,920 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 1: and an excellent reporter over or. Fox News has a

997
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 1: piece up that says that the Fusion GPS Fusion GPS

998
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 1: guy Glenn Simpson, the founder of it, was talking to

999
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 1: the media about his I was talking to media about

1000
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 1: the findings of the Russia dossier during you know, this

1001
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 1: was the summer before the election. This is in that

1002
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 1: period of time. Now, there's something that I do want

1003
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 1: to share with all of you, and it's it's a

1004
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 1: place where I think I can bring a little particular

1005
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 1: insight in this discussion that you're not going to hear

1006
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 1: from other radio hosts, and that is that as somebody

1007
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 1: who was a CIA analyst, I can tell you that

1008
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 1: we are very much in what is now always called

1009
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 1: the intelligence community. I feel like we didn't call it

1010
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 1: the i C that much back in the day. Technically true,

1011
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 1: but we were very attuned to what was going on

1012
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 1: in the media, very aware of it. You know, when

1013
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 1: you go through the lunch room, that cafeteria, or the

1014
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 1: mess hall or whatever in any number of government buildings,

1015
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 1: you know you're gonna see some of You're gonna boo,

1016
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 1: You're gonna see CNN. You may see Fox, You're definite

1017
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 1: gonna see CNN. Up there, and we all read the newspaper.

1018
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 1: You know, when I was in the CIA, I would

1019
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 1: you know I was reading what's going on in the world.

1020
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 1: Open source information, right, open source intelligence just a fancy

1021
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 1: way of saying stuff that's out there already, the news

1022
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 1: reports that anybody can read. There's often a lot of

1023
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 1: very important information. In fact, much of uh, much of

1024
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 1: the most important information you will gather about big strategic,

1025
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 1: major topics you get from what's open source right, understanding

1026
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 1: the history of a country or a group or in

1027
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 1: an issue. It's really only when you're when you're drilling

1028
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 1: down most of the time that the classified stuff is

1029
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 1: actually really helpful and can be very very useful, you know,

1030
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 1: the super secret stuff that the intelligence agencies have access to.

1031
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's more for specificity, you know, to

1032
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 1: to know whether or not there's going to be a

1033
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 1: uh you know, whether or not there's gonna be a

1034
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 1: famine in Yemen. You know, if you pay attention to

1035
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 1: the open source, you'll have a pretty good sense, right,

1036
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 1: I mean, you'll if you know the players, you know

1037
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 1: what's going on there, and you know there's a blockade

1038
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 1: in place. I mean, you can get really far in

1039
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 1: terms of your information analysis. But I'm telling you this

1040
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 1: with regard to the Fusion GPS situation because it is

1041
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 1: not a leap to me at all to think that

1042
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 1: because there is also especially when you're talking about you know,

1043
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 1: FBI and these places have they have public affairs offices,

1044
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 1: they have public affairs officers, right, There's there's definitely connectivity

1045
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 1: between some parts of the national security apparatus, intelligence community,

1046
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 1: law enforcement, and members of the media such that if

1047
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 1: the narrative of this, you know, the summer going in

1048
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 1: to the presidential election, was solidified by Glenn Simpson, you know,

1049
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 1: I mean I mean solidified. I mean if they had

1050
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 1: come up with this storyline and they were pretty good,

1051
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 1: had a pretty good sales pitch for it, and it

1052
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 1: was that there was this Russia all well, that there

1053
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 1: was all this terrible stuff about Trump that he's doing

1054
01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 1: in Russia and then he was working with the Russians

1055
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:33,440
Speaker 1: and everything else, and then that was influencing not just

1056
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:36,480
Speaker 1: the news media as approach to the entire campaign, but

1057
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:42,440
Speaker 1: also may have been the basis for a counterintelligence investigation.

1058
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 1: That that is all that that all makes perfect sense

1059
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 1: to me because the reality is that government employees. I

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Speaker 1: don't care who they are, and I don't care what

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Speaker 1: kind of work they're doing. GOVERNM employees, especially when you're

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Speaker 1: talking about the high level, the high level bureaucrats right

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Speaker 1: the executive floor, executive sweet people, they care more about oftentimes,

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Speaker 1: and this is maybe the dirty little secret. They care

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Speaker 1: more about what is on the front page of the

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Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal or what's popping up on the screen

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Speaker 1: and CNN than they do about any you know, internal

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Speaker 1: analysis of the situation. Because ultimately, if you work in

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Speaker 1: the government, in the executive branch, you work for the president.

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Speaker 1: And what do you think the president cares more about,

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01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 1: or what do you think the next president would care

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01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 1: more about, right the public perception of an issue as

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01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 1: shown by the media, or you know what's maybe unsourced

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Speaker 1: on corroborated information that's kept behind closed doors. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you have to think of it in these terms. So

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Speaker 1: the more we find out about this, and this is

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Speaker 1: what Katherine Harritge is reporting on UM that Fusion GPS

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01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 1: Jim Glenn Simpson was talking to the press about this

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01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 1: was feeding them that storyline. They leaped from the press

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Speaker 1: knowing this to the govern been knowing and acting on

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01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 1: it is very small, you know, I mean there have

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01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 1: been plenty of there are plenty of cases where the

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01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 1: media is in fact first on an issue and then

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01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 1: comes the federal investigation or you know, then comes the

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01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:16,880
Speaker 1: the government's handed it. You know, we we should never

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Speaker 1: think that the government is always at the forefront. That's

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Speaker 1: not the case. And what you have then is the possibility,

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Speaker 1: the very real possibility, that the entire Russia collusion investigation

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Speaker 1: has existed and was was created as an outgrowth of

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Speaker 1: a Hillary election oppo research effort. The whole thing, and

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Speaker 1: that you want to talk about having a it really

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01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 1: profound impact on our sense of our own political systems

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Speaker 1: and their durability everything else. Imagine that it's almost it's

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01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:02,040
Speaker 1: almost too brilliant, though, right, because it would mean that

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01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:06,400
Speaker 1: Hillary would have hijacked the intelligence, She would have run

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Speaker 1: an information operation that made its way through the entirety

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Speaker 1: of the media as well as into the corridors of

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Speaker 1: government power, and they acted on it too. Now you

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Speaker 1: have to start thinking, how could that happen? Well, if

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Speaker 1: the government was if those government we know the media

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01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:25,680
Speaker 1: is in Hillary's pockets, so they were totally down. And

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Speaker 1: then you start thinking about deep state elements or individuals

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01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:31,320
Speaker 1: who view themselves as committed leftists who are willing to

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Speaker 1: if not if they were not fooled by the dossier,

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01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 1: meaning if they if they weren't buying into it right away,

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01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 1: they figured, well, this is the excuse we need the dossier,

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Speaker 1: maybe the excuse for the counterintelligence activities. The dossier, maybe

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01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 1: the excuse for spying on Americans. And that's all they need,

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01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:50,200
Speaker 1: is an excuse, because then no one goes to prison,

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Speaker 1: even if it comes out later, and I think it

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01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 1: will by the way that the political targeting was obvious.

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Speaker 1: As long as there is a pre text for it,

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01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:03,959
Speaker 1: you're not gonna get any criminal prosecutions. So and I'll

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01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 1: just tell that to you straight. A lot of people are, oh,

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Speaker 1: former Obama people, you know they're gonna get they're gonna

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Speaker 1: get sent away. No, it's not gonna happen because they're

1117
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 1: not dumb. They're not that dumb. At least they know

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Speaker 1: that they just get a pretext for it, and then

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01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 1: you can get away with it. And there were plenty

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Speaker 1: of ways, especially when you're talking about discretion of surveillance activities,

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01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:26,040
Speaker 1: plenty of ways that you can do it where bad

1122
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 1: judgment doesn't get you sent to prison as long as

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Speaker 1: you operate within the letter, if not the spirit of

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Speaker 1: the law when it comes to stuff. So you know,

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Speaker 1: we gotta keep an eye on the Fusion GPS situation.

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01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:40,920
Speaker 1: It is there's still a lot of unanswered questions there

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01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:45,520
Speaker 1: and I want to know more. And a judge has now.

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Speaker 1: Judges now said that the secrecy that they're seeking is

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Speaker 1: not is not gonna fly. Um, just one a quick

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Speaker 1: thing here from this piece, Fox News reported that Simpson

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Speaker 1: met with Russia pardon me, rush lawyer or if you're

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Speaker 1: Russian lawyer, you could be a Rusher Russian lawyer Natalia

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Speaker 1: vesil Nitskaya before and after the June Trump Tower meeting

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Speaker 1: with Donald Trump Jr. And others. Foxtons reported that during

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Speaker 1: that period, Bank record show Fusion GPS was paid by

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Speaker 1: a law firm for work on behalf of a Kremlin

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01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 1: linked oligarch, while also paying Steel to dig up dirt

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Speaker 1: on Trump. Okay end quote. Um, are we really supposed

1139
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 1: to think that it's an accident? Think about the coincidence theorist,

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Speaker 1: You would have to be here, not a conspiracy theorist,

1141
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 1: A coincidence theorist think about what a coincidence thereis. You

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01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:43,240
Speaker 1: would have to be to think that it was coincidental

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Speaker 1: that Natalia vezl Nitskaya, this Russian lawyer, just happened to

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01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:58,280
Speaker 1: meet with Glenn Simpson, a Fusion GPS, the dossier guy,

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01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:01,120
Speaker 1: before and after the meeting at Trump Tower. That's it's

1146
01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 1: a big world, Tying Amy, It's a big world, right,

1147
01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:09,080
Speaker 1: seven billion people or so? Now, you know what? What? What?

1148
01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 1: What are the chances that that just happened? I think

1149
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 1: the chances are slim, and I don't know what's going

1150
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 1: on there, but something's weird there. This woman, vesselment Sky

1151
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:21,480
Speaker 1: is not you know, this isn't Taylor Swift. People are

1152
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:24,200
Speaker 1: lining up for miles and miles to meet her. So

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01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:27,400
Speaker 1: there's something going on and I'll try to figure out

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01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:28,760
Speaker 1: what it is, and that's what that'll be part of

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01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 1: our mission here on this show. Does anyone really think

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01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 1: Trump is gonna get impeached? Apparently some Democrats do. Let's

1157
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:38,040
Speaker 1: talk about it. We come back, stay with me all

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01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 1: right daily in Mississippi on w j M. I wants

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01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 1: to talk about Fusion GPS and such. What's up, David book,

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01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:53,480
Speaker 1: He loves your pace. Earlier about how the media the

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Speaker 1: liberals hate the South. I live in Mississippi, but I

1162
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 1: also grew up in Alabama, and get your spot on

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01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 1: and and and you know, for all your other listeners

1164
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:10,400
Speaker 1: across the country, liberal media in the South as a joke. Um,

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01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 1: I live just outside of Jackson, and you know it,

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01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:17,760
Speaker 1: it really is. Uh it's the local cartoon network. And

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01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:21,200
Speaker 1: you can see the bias even in the local network stuff.

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01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:26,280
Speaker 1: But anyway, so I've got the perfect solution to our

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01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:30,799
Speaker 1: problem with fusion, GPS and Robert Mueller and the Clinton

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01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 1: count the Clinton Clawn campaign. So this is what we

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Speaker 1: what we need to do. We don't need to fire Mueller. Okay,

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Speaker 1: what we need to do is we need to and

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Speaker 1: I know I don't like the idea of the Special Council,

1174
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:46,000
Speaker 1: but I think you're gonna love this book. Let's up

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01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 1: point a second special Council to look into the corrupt

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Speaker 1: Clinton criminal organization. And uh, let's go fire Muller. Let's

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Speaker 1: put Mueller over the Clinton investigation so that he has

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01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:02,840
Speaker 1: to bite the hand that's feeding him. Right now, do

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01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:04,600
Speaker 1: you want a moving so you'd want to have a

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01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:07,760
Speaker 1: set because they're already talking about uranium one and the

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01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:10,840
Speaker 1: Clinton Foundation looking to that. But you're so you're saying,

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01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:13,519
Speaker 1: make Mueller run that. But then won't Mueller just run

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01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:15,840
Speaker 1: cover for them if if what you're saying is true,

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01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:18,400
Speaker 1: which is that he's you know, the hand that feeds

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01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:22,280
Speaker 1: him as the Clinton's right, right, But like like you

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01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:27,519
Speaker 1: always say, the process is the punishment, right, Well, I

1187
01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:29,720
Speaker 1: feel like you could probably get somebody who's gonna make

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01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:31,760
Speaker 1: the process more of a punishment if you don't make

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Speaker 1: it Mueller for Hillary. Well, here here's what so and so,

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Speaker 1: the other investigation, the one Trump Russian the joke, like

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01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:42,960
Speaker 1: like a point, somebody like Roberto Gonzalez, you know, from

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01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:45,439
Speaker 1: the bush of a induistration. You know. So I'm not

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01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 1: saying he's fremely, but he's honest, he's legitimate. And so

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01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:50,120
Speaker 1: Mueller's these are gonna do one of the two things.

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01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:53,320
Speaker 1: He's easily gonna do nothing, which is gonna destroy his credibility.

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01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:57,400
Speaker 1: And then and then he's gonna actually investigate the Clintons,

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01:09:57,439 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 1: which in that case he's going to you indict her

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01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:07,120
Speaker 1: or wind up dead. Okay, David, thank you very much

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Speaker 1: for thank you very much for calling it from Mississippi. Um,

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Speaker 1: I think this is I think that was that like

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01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:15,840
Speaker 1: a kind of Vince Foster reference you made at the

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01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:18,600
Speaker 1: end there Where was I on this? Oh? Yes, I

1203
01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:21,960
Speaker 1: was gonna talk to you about impeachment, um and the

1204
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:28,599
Speaker 1: articles of impeachment today that we're introduced about Trump. Here

1205
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:34,960
Speaker 1: you go, Representative Cohen impeachment talking about it. The first

1206
01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:39,000
Speaker 1: substruction of justice, which deals with Mr Comby's firing. The

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01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:42,679
Speaker 1: second is a violation of the Constitution's Foreign emolument clause,

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01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:45,840
Speaker 1: which deals with moneys he's taken from foreign powers without

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01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:48,720
Speaker 1: the consent of Congress. The third is a violation of

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01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:52,120
Speaker 1: the domestic emoluments clause, was deals with moneys he's made

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01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:55,200
Speaker 1: from the United States, uh and as personal businesses beyond

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01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:58,560
Speaker 1: that of his salary, which is also forbidden by our constitution.

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01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:03,040
Speaker 1: The fourth underfinding our federal judiciary. In the fifth is

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01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:07,280
Speaker 1: undermining freedom of the press. These are progressive actions he's

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01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:10,840
Speaker 1: taken over a period of time against the press and

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Speaker 1: against the judiciary. Okay, okay, Oh, And Maxine Waters says

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Speaker 1: that we should impeach him to just in case you

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Speaker 1: were wondering, I continued to say, m peage him M

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Speaker 1: page forty five, M page forty five. I hope that

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Speaker 1: they keep this up. This is only going to in

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01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:45,639
Speaker 1: my opinion, this is only going to uh rally Trump's

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01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:49,360
Speaker 1: based to his side, and it just shows how how

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01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:54,040
Speaker 1: feckless so many members of Congress really are impeach Trump

1224
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:56,880
Speaker 1: for for his assaults on the press, and we're really

1225
01:11:56,880 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 1: gonna do That's even in there. You gotta gonna remove

1226
01:11:59,920 --> 01:12:01,719
Speaker 1: the president because you don't like what he says about

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01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:05,400
Speaker 1: the media. I mean, that's it's it's laughable, or it

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01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:10,360
Speaker 1: would be laughable if it weren't over such high stakes

1229
01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:13,320
Speaker 1: and so serious that sense. But the impeach Trump movement

1230
01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:17,920
Speaker 1: is h something that you're gonna It's gonna be going

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01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:21,559
Speaker 1: on for a while. They will not stop. Um. Here

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Speaker 1: play a Here's how it Here's how it started out. Today.

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Speaker 1: I meant to play this for you. Taking this action

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01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:32,280
Speaker 1: because of great concern for our country and our constitution,

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01:12:32,479 --> 01:12:37,320
Speaker 1: our national security, and our democracy. We believe the President

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01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:40,479
Speaker 1: Trump has violated the Constitution, and we've introduced five articles

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01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:46,280
Speaker 1: of appeachment. There you go, not gonna go anywhere. But

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Speaker 1: oh and I one thing that I didn't pull a

1239
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:51,000
Speaker 1: pull for the show, but I was thinking about it.

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01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:52,639
Speaker 1: I was gonna send it to Tie and Amy here,

1241
01:12:52,680 --> 01:12:56,120
Speaker 1: but you know there there's it's pretty powerful. Was making

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Speaker 1: the rounds on social media speaking about impeachment, and given

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01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:01,679
Speaker 1: everything that's going on right now in the news cycle

1244
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:04,920
Speaker 1: and everything we're hearing about with Judge Moore and all

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01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:10,519
Speaker 1: the rest of it. Uh, there's a pretty amazing seeing

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Speaker 1: that that was making the rounds and in social media

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01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:16,800
Speaker 1: of and it's like Al Gore is there, and you know,

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Speaker 1: all all the Clinton, the whole Clinton squad from back

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Speaker 1: in the day, and it is after he was after Clinton,

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Speaker 1: Bill Clinton, Hey, what's up. I'm here, I'm back, after

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01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:32,160
Speaker 1: Bill Clinton was impeached, were not removed from office by

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Speaker 1: the Senate, but was impeached and just the it was

1253
01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:37,879
Speaker 1: right after it just a stand he got a standing

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01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:42,280
Speaker 1: ovation from all these gathered Democrats after that, and was

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01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:46,360
Speaker 1: it was just a reminder of how in Democrats circles

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Speaker 1: left his circles, media circles. After all that, after the

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Speaker 1: allegations came out of rape and sexually you know, being

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01:13:56,080 --> 01:14:00,200
Speaker 1: sexually you know, grotesque with a with an in her

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Speaker 1: and in the oval office and the whole thing and

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Speaker 1: the story, I mean, and all the stories about the

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Speaker 1: dress and the it was just in the cigar and

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Speaker 1: all of it. Right after all that, Democrats were still

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01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:17,200
Speaker 1: standing like and clapping like trained seals for Bill Clinton.

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Speaker 1: And I just think it's worth remembering that, you know,

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Speaker 1: as we go go forward here. I know I've talked

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Speaker 1: about it before, but to keep that in mind. And

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Speaker 1: if you really want to feel like Democrats can't lecture

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Speaker 1: anybody ever any time about moral probity or anything else,

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Speaker 1: go back and read about Teddy Kennedy at chap A

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Speaker 1: quick decided to drive a car he was drunk off

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Speaker 1: a bridge with his mistress, let her slowly drown in

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Speaker 1: the vehicle. He just he just got out of there.

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Speaker 1: He just decided to scoot try to get an alibi

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Speaker 1: for himself. Nearby led a woman that he was having

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Speaker 1: an affair worth but that he was sleeping with ground

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Speaker 1: and he was the lion of the Senate. Everybody. That

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Speaker 1: are a few days there when the Visa diversity Lottery

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Speaker 1: was getting some attention. There were a few days when

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Speaker 1: we were looking at this, and I think a lot

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Speaker 1: of Americans were waking up to just how absurd as

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Speaker 1: a matter of policy this was. That we would take

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Speaker 1: first of all, In case you you didn't read this,

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Speaker 1: didn't see this somewhere, there are countries that are excluded

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Speaker 1: from it based on their previous levels of immigration into

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Speaker 1: the country. So automatically, the Diversity Lottery means that if

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Speaker 1: we're taking a lot of people from a certain country,

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Speaker 1: they're not going to be part of it. Now. I know,

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Speaker 1: the Diversity Lottery is only about fifty people a year.

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Speaker 1: It's not that big in terms of overall numbers. But

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Speaker 1: when you look at where we're taking a lot of

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Speaker 1: people for the Diversity Lottery, they tend to be a

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Speaker 1: lot of countries that have security problems. Uh. They are

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Speaker 1: not countries where we are going to be picking up

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Speaker 1: uh per capita as a as a function of the percentages,

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Speaker 1: it is less likely it will be picking up brain surgeons,

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Speaker 1: rocket scientists, entrepreneurs, etcetera. It's just this is the reality. Now.

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Speaker 1: Every individual's judges the individual. I understand that. But our

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Speaker 1: immigration policy should be based on that, meaning that we

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Speaker 1: don't just decide to give away visas at randoms people

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Speaker 1: can come and stay in the country. It should be

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Speaker 1: very much about what will someone bring to the country.

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Speaker 1: And here's what Fox News is reporting on Earlier in

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Speaker 1: the week, at least five four nationals with suspected ties

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Speaker 1: to terror resettled in the US through the same visa

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Speaker 1: lottery program allowed New York City terror suspects Si Fulo

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Speaker 1: Scipav into the country, The Trump administration said on Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: Si Pauv, the Isis sympathizer who allegedly committed the Halloween

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Speaker 1: terror attack and loreman Hattan that left eight dead and

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Speaker 1: eleven injured, entered the US from Uzbekistan in through the

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Speaker 1: Visa the Lottery Lottery program. The Visa Lottery, also known

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Speaker 1: as the Diversity Visa Waiver program, grants up to fifty

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Speaker 1: thousand immigrant visas annually drawn from random selection among all

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Speaker 1: entries to individuals who are from countries with low rates

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Speaker 1: of immigration to the US. That's all from immigration and

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Speaker 1: Customs services. So a merit based system is what I

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Speaker 1: think most Americans thought we had, and we don't. We

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Speaker 1: have a chain based immigration system, chain migration, so people

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Speaker 1: who are here to get to sponsor more people to

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Speaker 1: come here. And that's primary, that's number one on the list.

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Speaker 1: And then you also have these programs like the Visa

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Speaker 1: immigration I'm sorry, Visa Diversity program and it's a security risk. Um,

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Speaker 1: it's a security risk. And this is why five four

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Speaker 1: nationals with suspected terroritized according to the Trump administration. Look,

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Speaker 1: I don't have access to the raw data they do,

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Speaker 1: and they're saying that this is something that is just

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Speaker 1: needs to stop. I mean, quite honestly, quite obviously, this

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Speaker 1: is a problem. We should get to a point where

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Speaker 1: we are no longer in a position that would even

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Speaker 1: make it possible or or in the least that we

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Speaker 1: would bring in somebody knowingly into this country who may

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Speaker 1: be a security risk is from a country that does

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Speaker 1: not have the kind of vetting programs in place that

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Speaker 1: the administration wants them to. So the visa, the visa

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Speaker 1: diversity lottery is I think going to go away under

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Speaker 1: this administration, which would be a good thing. Um. I

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Speaker 1: should also know that there are when you start to

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Speaker 1: look at how many individuals are being brought to the

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Speaker 1: country under chain migration that are over the age of fifty,

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Speaker 1: it's pretty high. It's a pretty high percentage. So now

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Speaker 1: we are just because we're just gonna be paying for

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Speaker 1: the developing world's health care increasingly going forward. That's what

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Speaker 1: will happen if I mean if you had an immigration system.

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Speaker 1: Think about it this way. If you're an immigration system

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Speaker 1: where somebody could come here and get permanent residency, permanent

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Speaker 1: status and there retire of retiree age, and they're just

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Speaker 1: coming to America for that point that portion of their lives,

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Speaker 1: that's when a vast majority of the medical bills come

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Speaker 1: due for all of us. So keep that in mind

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Speaker 1: as we have no reform of entitlements on the horizon

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01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:34,120
Speaker 1: and getting deeper and deeper into debt twenty trillion dollars

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Speaker 1: into debt. To talk to you about this. One more

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Speaker 1: note on immigration today, and that is that a judge

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Speaker 1: has stopped Trump from the Trump administration from withholding funds

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Speaker 1: two sanctuary cities. And that is based on the well

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Speaker 1: I had a feeling this would happen because, for one,

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Speaker 1: it is not clear, and I have immigration experts who

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Speaker 1: are hawkish on the issue of border security, who are

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Speaker 1: hawkish on the um the issues that the Trump campaign

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Speaker 1: ran on when it comes to immigration, and there are

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Speaker 1: some who will say that you can't you can't make

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Speaker 1: police do immigration policing. Now, what the sanctuary city policy

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Speaker 1: has to, you know, deals with is will you hold

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Speaker 1: people and will you notify and will you hold illegals?

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Speaker 1: Notification is already a law, and there's no reasonable there's

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Speaker 1: no reasonable way for the sanctuary jurisdictions to get away

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Speaker 1: with UM get away with not notifying but not holding

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Speaker 1: beyond what they would in order for immigration and customs

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Speaker 1: and forced to come along and having funds contingent on that.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure that the courts will side with the

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Speaker 1: administration on that, even as it makes its way up,

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Speaker 1: even as it goes even higher. I think that I'll

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Speaker 1: look in the specifics of this decision, but I've been

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Speaker 1: worried that this would happen for a while. They would

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Speaker 1: run run into once again the separation here between local

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Speaker 1: law enforcement, state law enforcement, and what the federal government

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Speaker 1: can mandate with regard to police powers in the States.

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Speaker 1: So we'll see this will continue to play out, but

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Speaker 1: so far it seems like there's some hurdles to withholding

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Speaker 1: those sanctuary city funds. We're gonna talk about the latest

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Speaker 1: sexual harassment allegations out of Hollywood just a few Stay

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Speaker 1: with me. Basically found myself with a group um at night,

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Speaker 1: hanging out watching a movie at an apartment around the

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Speaker 1: corner from where I lived, which I assumed was his apartment. Again,

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Speaker 1: I didn't know him. Well, I'd never been there before.

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Speaker 1: It was it was six or seven of us there

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Speaker 1: and um and uh, we all sort of fell asleep

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Speaker 1: or what I thought. We were just dozing off watching

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Speaker 1: a film. And when I woke up, I was alone

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Speaker 1: there with him and tried to leave, and one thing

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Speaker 1: led to another and he didn't, you know, he was

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Speaker 1: not going to allow me to leave. So yeah, so

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Speaker 1: he blocked the door and um, and didn't let me

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Speaker 1: leave In that Um, well, it got really scary from there.

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Speaker 1: That was actress Natasha Henstridge speaking to Megan kelly Or

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Speaker 1: this morning about in interaction that she had talking about

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Speaker 1: the alleged sexual assault at the hands of Brett Rattner,

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Speaker 1: a very prominent Hollywood director who I believe, as of

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Speaker 1: today has been pulled off of any involvement with the

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Speaker 1: Wonder Woman franchise because Gala Godot, the elite in that,

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Speaker 1: has said that she wants nothing to do with anything

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Speaker 1: that Brett Rattner has anything to do with. So more

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Speaker 1: of these stories keep coming out, and there are more

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Speaker 1: and more ramifications and an immediate action taken as a

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Speaker 1: result of them. We have Emily Companio with us here

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Speaker 1: in studio. She's a legal analyst. You can follow her

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Speaker 1: on Twitter at Emily Campaniou. Emily, thanks for staying through

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Speaker 1: to talk to us about this one. Uh, the latest

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Speaker 1: on the Weinstein case and Rose mcgow Actually, I'm sorry

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Speaker 1: before we get into that, hold back for one second.

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Speaker 1: Hence Ridge Brett Ratner. Brett Ratner is now off the

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Speaker 1: Wonder Woman movie. There's a sense I think that people

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Speaker 1: have that this may be happening because the studios, yes,

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Speaker 1: that they want to take this seriously, they want to act.

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Speaker 1: But is there also a possible liability question here for

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Speaker 1: studios that if they if it's known that Brett Ratner,

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Speaker 1: for example, engages in this kind of behavior and then

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Speaker 1: on set once again he does it. Is there any

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Speaker 1: legal component to this that pushes the action from the

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Speaker 1: studios or is it just they know that this is

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Speaker 1: dirty stuff and they want to get as far away

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Speaker 1: from it as fast as possible. Are they liable? I

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Speaker 1: mean for guys that are engaged in this kind of stuff,

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Speaker 1: especially if they knew about it beforehand. Absolutely so, in

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Speaker 1: any type of employer employment situation, if the employer, so

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Speaker 1: if the studio knew about some type of predatory behavior

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Speaker 1: or specifically someone with a history of assault in any

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Speaker 1: type of dangerous situation who had not take taken steps

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Speaker 1: to mitigate. So we're not talking about someone, for example,

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Speaker 1: with a record where one could argue, we do hire

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Speaker 1: ex felons and that is within our right and here's

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Speaker 1: how we disclose, etcetera. So notwithstanding that small subgroup, they

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Speaker 1: are absolutely responsible for a knew and did nothing about

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Speaker 1: it when they are responsible for the hiring of including

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Speaker 1: independent contractors on their set, so that's everyone from makeup

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Speaker 1: artists to actresses, etcetera. I mean obviously in an employer

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Speaker 1: employee relationship that they could be liable for sexual rass

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Speaker 1: What I mean is does it heighten the liability if

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Speaker 1: there is a pattern and a known and in the

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Speaker 1: person's a known harasser and you bring them on, you know,

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Speaker 1: are you more liable or is it more likely to

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Speaker 1: be an adverse judgment against a studio for example, for

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Speaker 1: sexual harassment? Essentially, is Brett Ratner a bigger are you

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Speaker 1: possibly gonna have to pay out a bigger settlement if

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Speaker 1: it is known and you brought him on anyway, and

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Speaker 1: then he does it again, there are a few ways

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Speaker 1: to answer that number one. After the Catholic church abuse

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Speaker 1: scandals in California, there was a statute enacted which enabled

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Speaker 1: people to sue someone with whom they have a professional

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Speaker 1: relationship for not taking reasonable steps to stop or mitigate

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Speaker 1: predatory behavior. So yes, answer number one, Yes, absolutely, because

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Speaker 1: the studio can be held liable and anyone who knew

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Speaker 1: about his behavior did nothing and sent their person they represented,

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Speaker 1: or the makeup artists that they hired, or whoever it

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Speaker 1: was that they put him essentially in his you know,

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Speaker 1: late laid them at his feet. Yes, they are liable

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Speaker 1: under an additional set of laws with the statute limitations

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Speaker 1: of one year. Under that number two. Yes, but it's

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Speaker 1: kind of a complicated answer, and here's why. So you

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Speaker 1: can argue the personal liability of that, but you could

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Speaker 1: also just argue that it ups the witness count, so

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Speaker 1: it doesn't necessary early In add to, well, you knew

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Speaker 1: or should have known, because that always follows the two

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Speaker 1: of them, or the two always follow together. Legally, you

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Speaker 1: knew or you should have known, so ironically, in the

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Speaker 1: eyes of the court, if you knew, it ups that level.

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Speaker 1: But if you didn't know you still should have known,

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Speaker 1: and especially given that kind of commonly held assumptions were

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Speaker 1: oftentimes people have said, well, everyone knew, but I was

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Speaker 1: that one in the dark. I was the one agent

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Speaker 1: that had no idea forgive me. And now that person

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Speaker 1: has cried installation, So that goes to a credibility analysis

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Speaker 1: on that too. But in terms of legally, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you stated it in the beginning employer, employee, and the

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Speaker 1: fact that more people knew about it, it renders those

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Speaker 1: people liable if they had a direct relationship with the

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Speaker 1: person who eventually was a victim. And now tell me

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Speaker 1: about the latest which this story. I keep thinking that, Okay,

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Speaker 1: we we've gotten to the point in the Weinstein saga,

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Speaker 1: this this whole unful ding drama of unbelievable abuse and

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Speaker 1: and assault and cover up and employing x spies and

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01:27:09,439 --> 01:27:13,439
Speaker 1: all this stuff. There's another there's yet another chapter in

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01:27:13,479 --> 01:27:15,720
Speaker 1: the Weinstein saga that I wanted you to tell every

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01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:20,439
Speaker 1: of everybody about now that involves Rose McGowan. I'm so

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Speaker 1: happy that we're discussing this because you and I discussed

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Speaker 1: the really alarming revelations that came out about Weinstein's army

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Speaker 1: of spies So for your repeat listeners, when we discussed

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Speaker 1: that Weinstein basically employed an army of spies through private

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Speaker 1: UM investigation agencies to derail book publication by Rose McGowan

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Speaker 1: and UM and essentially quash any type of publications about

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Speaker 1: her allegations and those and that book. So cut two. Now,

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Speaker 1: in January, Rose McGowan was on a flight to d

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Speaker 1: C or February one. UM in January she was flying,

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Speaker 1: but on February one is what authorities got the warrant.

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Speaker 1: She left her wallet on the plane. Her story is,

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01:28:11,240 --> 01:28:13,360
Speaker 1: immediately upon getting off the plane, and this was for

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01:28:13,520 --> 01:28:17,920
Speaker 1: Women's March, she tweeted at the airline and filed a

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01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:23,440
Speaker 1: lost luggage claim. She then alleges that she on Instagram

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Speaker 1: had a random person reach out and say, hey, we

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Speaker 1: have your wallet along with your two bags of coke cocaine.

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Speaker 1: So from there the story parallels that she was actually

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Speaker 1: contacted on numerous occasions by people identifying themselves as detectives,

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01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:42,240
Speaker 1: as authorities who were saying, you left your wallet on

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01:28:42,280 --> 01:28:46,799
Speaker 1: the plane and it contained narcotics, traces of narcotics quote unquote,

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01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:49,760
Speaker 1: and therefore you are culpable and we are issuing a

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Speaker 1: warrant for your arrest. That was on February one. Now,

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01:28:53,080 --> 01:28:57,280
Speaker 1: she questioned the authenticity of these people's identifications throughout so

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01:28:57,360 --> 01:29:00,599
Speaker 1: interestingly from the get go, she was taking green shots

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01:29:00,600 --> 01:29:03,360
Speaker 1: of the Instagram posts, she was documenting these phone calls,

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01:29:03,720 --> 01:29:06,720
Speaker 1: and she wasn't meeting with them because she was nervous.

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01:29:06,760 --> 01:29:10,519
Speaker 1: And her story is such that she had been rendered

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01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:14,360
Speaker 1: fearful by the continued people who had entered her life

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01:29:14,439 --> 01:29:17,639
Speaker 1: under auspices of an authentic identity and trying to win

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01:29:17,680 --> 01:29:21,120
Speaker 1: her over, when really she was discovering that they were, um,

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01:29:21,160 --> 01:29:25,320
Speaker 1: you know, working essentially for Weinstein. So ultimately, however, it

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01:29:25,560 --> 01:29:28,600
Speaker 1: is true and accurate that the that the State of

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01:29:28,680 --> 01:29:32,840
Speaker 1: Virginia um executed a warrant for her arrest and have

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01:29:32,920 --> 01:29:37,599
Speaker 1: now filed charges against her for felony drug possession. Now

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01:29:37,680 --> 01:29:40,840
Speaker 1: in the state of Virginia, simple drug possession cocaine is

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01:29:40,880 --> 01:29:44,960
Speaker 1: a schedule to drugs. She's facing um and not insignificant

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01:29:44,960 --> 01:29:47,800
Speaker 1: fine and up to a year in jail. And she

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01:29:47,960 --> 01:29:51,639
Speaker 1: has said this is a complete set up from her

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01:29:51,640 --> 01:29:56,520
Speaker 1: her story is this is incredible, literally like not believable.

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01:29:56,840 --> 01:30:00,000
Speaker 1: And she said, yeah, I admit I do drugs. Mayor

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01:30:00,040 --> 01:30:02,840
Speaker 1: wanta is my jam quote unquote, I would never think

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Speaker 1: of doing a substance like cocaine, especially for a women's march.

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01:30:06,160 --> 01:30:10,280
Speaker 1: Like she she finds the whole thing unbelievable. But from

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01:30:10,280 --> 01:30:13,760
Speaker 1: what she's spacing right now, it's a felony chart. I mean,

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01:30:13,800 --> 01:30:15,720
Speaker 1: it looks like especially when you add in the story

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01:30:15,760 --> 01:30:19,080
Speaker 1: about Instagram and Twitter, it looks like there could have

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01:30:19,160 --> 01:30:22,320
Speaker 1: been and given what we have already read about Weinstein's

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01:30:22,439 --> 01:30:25,120
Speaker 1: army of spies, looks like this could be some kind

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01:30:25,160 --> 01:30:29,120
Speaker 1: of social media hit totally. And I will say that

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01:30:29,320 --> 01:30:34,000
Speaker 1: part of her allegations and pointing pointing toward the again

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01:30:34,280 --> 01:30:37,799
Speaker 1: incredulity aspect of this is the fact that the wallet

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Speaker 1: and the bags were left unattended for I want to say,

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01:30:40,880 --> 01:30:44,120
Speaker 1: over fifty hours. So I will say that taking a

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01:30:44,160 --> 01:30:46,880
Speaker 1: step outside of the army of spies, and just as

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01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:49,519
Speaker 1: a legal analysis, there is no way that a chain

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01:30:49,560 --> 01:30:53,840
Speaker 1: of custody will will hold water. There's no way that

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01:30:53,880 --> 01:30:57,080
Speaker 1: she will be convicted of this count because that alone,

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01:30:57,120 --> 01:30:59,599
Speaker 1: even if it was left alone for one minute, that's

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01:30:59,680 --> 01:31:02,439
Speaker 1: enough to cause the doubts. So the fact that for

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01:31:02,520 --> 01:31:06,679
Speaker 1: hours and hours her things were left unattended and subject

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01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:10,759
Speaker 1: to tampering with that right. There is a tremendous reg flag.

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01:31:10,760 --> 01:31:12,639
Speaker 1: It won't hold up any one more for your Emily.

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01:31:13,439 --> 01:31:18,679
Speaker 1: Democratic Representative Jackie Spire said that about fifteen million dollars

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01:31:18,800 --> 01:31:20,519
Speaker 1: we have we have the audio tie please play a

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01:31:20,560 --> 01:31:23,479
Speaker 1: fifty million dollars spending settlements paid out by the House

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01:31:23,520 --> 01:31:27,280
Speaker 1: of Representatives on behalf of those accused of sexual harassment.

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01:31:27,320 --> 01:31:30,679
Speaker 1: Go saying now, is is that you know of two

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01:31:30,680 --> 01:31:34,519
Speaker 1: individuals who have paid out sexual harassment settlements. So taxpayer

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01:31:34,600 --> 01:31:38,120
Speaker 1: money has been used to protect the identity of these

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01:31:38,160 --> 01:31:42,360
Speaker 1: members of Congress. One member of Congress has um been

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01:31:43,360 --> 01:31:48,880
Speaker 1: has settled a claim and there has been a taxpayer settlement.

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01:31:49,920 --> 01:31:54,160
Speaker 1: Is this something that um if the taxpayers involved, don't

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01:31:54,200 --> 01:31:56,360
Speaker 1: we have the right to know? Well, I think you

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01:31:56,400 --> 01:31:58,800
Speaker 1: do have the right to know, but right now under

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01:31:58,840 --> 01:32:01,280
Speaker 1: the system, don't have a right to know. We do

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01:32:01,400 --> 01:32:04,439
Speaker 1: know that there's a about fifteen million dollars that has

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01:32:04,520 --> 01:32:10,640
Speaker 1: been paid out by the House on behalf of harassers

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Speaker 1: in the last ten to fifteen years. I don't really

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Speaker 1: know how many members that entail. Okay, Emily, fifteen million

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01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:21,479
Speaker 1: dollars over ten years and not insignificant sum of money over,

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01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:23,760
Speaker 1: you're looking at about at one point five million year

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01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:27,080
Speaker 1: on average going out to people for sexual harassment claims

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Speaker 1: on Capitol Hill. Some of those may be frivolous. I'm

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01:32:30,479 --> 01:32:32,280
Speaker 1: guessing a lot of them are not. And I think

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01:32:32,320 --> 01:32:35,800
Speaker 1: that the dam maybe breaking on the next series of

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01:32:35,800 --> 01:32:37,960
Speaker 1: sexual harassment revelations which would be coming out of d

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Speaker 1: C and out of our nation's capital and the Capitol

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01:32:41,240 --> 01:32:45,719
Speaker 1: Building itself. I would love that. Here's why. More even

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01:32:45,760 --> 01:32:50,160
Speaker 1: than the enlightening of identities of those kinds of predators

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Speaker 1: in our nation's government, what makes my blood boil is

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01:32:55,280 --> 01:33:02,120
Speaker 1: the is the um inappropriate stewardship of our taxpayer dollars.

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01:33:02,320 --> 01:33:04,280
Speaker 1: As a federal attorney, for a long time, part of

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01:33:04,320 --> 01:33:07,360
Speaker 1: my role was being an accurate steward. Every minute that

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01:33:07,400 --> 01:33:10,320
Speaker 1: a federal employee is working for the government, they are

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01:33:10,360 --> 01:33:13,520
Speaker 1: being a steward of taxpayers money because that's their salary.

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Speaker 1: Everything they use, every resource they use is our money.

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Speaker 1: And what kills me is the thought that up to

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Speaker 1: fifteen million dollars of my our money was spent on

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01:33:27,000 --> 01:33:29,800
Speaker 1: this and that we don't have the visibility into it.

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01:33:30,160 --> 01:33:35,840
Speaker 1: To me, it's another example of how our government's opaque

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01:33:36,160 --> 01:33:41,000
Speaker 1: and inefficient and wasteful system is so toxic, and it

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01:33:41,000 --> 01:33:43,360
Speaker 1: would be really refreshing if we could bust that open,

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01:33:43,439 --> 01:33:46,920
Speaker 1: because I think, um, frankly, a lot of the toxicity

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01:33:47,040 --> 01:33:50,360
Speaker 1: comes from the inappropriate use of our money, and so

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01:33:50,479 --> 01:33:53,080
Speaker 1: I would love to see that be the next focus

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Speaker 1: of an expose. Emily Campanio attorney and legal analysts. Thank

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01:33:56,960 --> 01:33:58,519
Speaker 1: you so much. I'm like for joining us here in studio.

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01:33:58,600 --> 01:34:01,160
Speaker 1: Great to have you. Thank you so watch buck Well

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Speaker 1: in a break. Team will be right back. You know,

1593
01:34:04,240 --> 01:34:05,960
Speaker 1: there are a lot of ways that we think of

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01:34:06,360 --> 01:34:09,960
Speaker 1: technology changing the world around us. We think of it

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01:34:10,720 --> 01:34:12,640
Speaker 1: making it easier to communicate. We think of how it

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01:34:12,720 --> 01:34:16,360
Speaker 1: changes our businesses. But what we are I think seeing

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01:34:16,400 --> 01:34:19,640
Speaker 1: more and more of now and getting a better understanding

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01:34:19,720 --> 01:34:25,600
Speaker 1: of in time, is that technology also changes human behavior

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01:34:26,400 --> 01:34:30,200
Speaker 1: and that our behaviors are shifting in response to it.

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01:34:30,800 --> 01:34:34,519
Speaker 1: A great example of this to focus in on one

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01:34:35,160 --> 01:34:38,240
Speaker 1: problem that used to be a big one in this

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01:34:38,320 --> 01:34:43,360
Speaker 1: country and that technology has essentially eliminated. It still happens,

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01:34:43,400 --> 01:34:47,800
Speaker 1: but in in such smaller numbers that it's it's pretty incredible.

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01:34:48,479 --> 01:34:52,080
Speaker 1: Car theft. We grew up, I remember being at my

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01:34:52,240 --> 01:34:56,880
Speaker 1: friend's house. Uh, and his dad coming in and saying

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01:34:56,960 --> 01:35:00,519
Speaker 1: that the car I believe it was a I believe

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01:35:00,560 --> 01:35:03,920
Speaker 1: it was a Range Rover had been stolen, meaning you know,

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01:35:03,920 --> 01:35:06,240
Speaker 1: I was gone that their car had been and it

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01:35:06,360 --> 01:35:08,439
Speaker 1: was just, you know, you had that moment of oh, adults.

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01:35:08,479 --> 01:35:10,439
Speaker 1: I was young, I was maybe eleven or twelve years old,

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01:35:10,439 --> 01:35:12,920
Speaker 1: but you know, adults very upset. I mean it really

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Speaker 1: And what was also very noticeable was it was upsetting,

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01:35:17,240 --> 01:35:19,479
Speaker 1: but it was all right, you know, call the insurance

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01:35:19,520 --> 01:35:21,400
Speaker 1: company in the car has been in. Our car has

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01:35:21,400 --> 01:35:24,479
Speaker 1: been stolen. I can't believe it, but it wasn't unheard of.

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Speaker 1: Car theft in New York City has dropped over nine percent.

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01:35:30,760 --> 01:35:36,240
Speaker 1: I think it's actually dropped over. Car theft is a

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01:35:36,240 --> 01:35:40,680
Speaker 1: crime that almost does not occur anymore. The only exceptions

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01:35:40,680 --> 01:35:42,200
Speaker 1: those are wondering is if you have a car that

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01:35:42,360 --> 01:35:46,400
Speaker 1: is so uh old doesn't sound like a nice way

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01:35:46,439 --> 01:35:49,000
Speaker 1: to say it. If your car is such a a classic,

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01:35:49,479 --> 01:35:51,839
Speaker 1: thank you, tyrone. If your car is such a classic

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01:35:52,280 --> 01:35:55,080
Speaker 1: that it does not have electronics that were made circle

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01:35:55,120 --> 01:35:58,800
Speaker 1: I think two thousand three, two four, um, then it

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01:35:58,880 --> 01:36:01,200
Speaker 1: may still be stolen. So you have some really old

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01:36:02,120 --> 01:36:06,639
Speaker 1: civics or some some classics soon to be collector's item, uh,

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01:36:06,760 --> 01:36:10,600
Speaker 1: collector's item, Honda Civics from they might steal it and

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01:36:10,880 --> 01:36:13,400
Speaker 1: just scrap it use it for parts. But even that's

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01:36:13,439 --> 01:36:15,880
Speaker 1: become more difficult because all these places now that take

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01:36:15,960 --> 01:36:19,360
Speaker 1: cars have to take your I D and now they

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01:36:19,360 --> 01:36:22,720
Speaker 1: know who dropped off the car. So car theft is

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01:36:22,760 --> 01:36:28,160
Speaker 1: almost gone. And I remember it being a a thing

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01:36:28,160 --> 01:36:29,360
Speaker 1: that you had to think of. I remember my dad,

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01:36:29,400 --> 01:36:30,759
Speaker 1: you know, ever to make sure you locked the doors,

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01:36:30,800 --> 01:36:33,920
Speaker 1: and he wasn't being paranoid. Cars were getting stolen the

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01:36:33,920 --> 01:36:36,040
Speaker 1: eighties and nineties all the time, and they put them

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01:36:36,080 --> 01:36:38,760
Speaker 1: on a shipping container and then they'd send them overseas.

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01:36:38,760 --> 01:36:40,599
Speaker 1: If it was a luxury car or you know, they

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01:36:40,600 --> 01:36:44,040
Speaker 1: would they would go taken into a chop shop. Technology

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01:36:44,120 --> 01:36:47,880
Speaker 1: because they have GPS tracking in all these cars now,

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01:36:47,920 --> 01:36:50,439
Speaker 1: and because they have a chip that also does not

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01:36:50,560 --> 01:36:53,040
Speaker 1: allow the car to start. I mean, you can't hot

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01:36:53,080 --> 01:36:55,560
Speaker 1: wire a car now without that chip, and the dealership

1644
01:36:56,320 --> 01:37:01,400
Speaker 1: has the connectivity and the code for that. But that's

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01:37:01,439 --> 01:37:03,840
Speaker 1: all different now. So that's a problem that used to

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01:37:03,840 --> 01:37:05,120
Speaker 1: be a big thing. I mean, there a whole movie,

1647
01:37:05,120 --> 01:37:07,440
Speaker 1: you know, Grand Theft Auto. You think about that franchise.

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01:37:07,720 --> 01:37:10,439
Speaker 1: It's really theft auto doesn't really exist anymore. It's gone

1649
01:37:10,439 --> 01:37:13,679
Speaker 1: now because of technology. So these are and I'm somebody

1650
01:37:13,680 --> 01:37:16,080
Speaker 1: who I wish I had the time and the resources

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01:37:16,120 --> 01:37:20,400
Speaker 1: pull us together. We keep thinking about how policing has

1652
01:37:20,600 --> 01:37:23,479
Speaker 1: has gotten any policing has gotten better and more effective

1653
01:37:23,520 --> 01:37:28,040
Speaker 1: in part because of technology, uh, surveillance cameras, much better

1654
01:37:28,080 --> 01:37:31,760
Speaker 1: communication among law enforcement, much better databases and everything. But

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01:37:31,920 --> 01:37:35,280
Speaker 1: also I think there's been a huge, huge crime drop

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01:37:35,320 --> 01:37:38,160
Speaker 1: in this country in last fifteen or twenty years, last

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01:37:38,160 --> 01:37:42,840
Speaker 1: twenty years or so because of the technologies that are

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01:37:42,840 --> 01:37:45,559
Speaker 1: all around us now. And you just think about this

1659
01:37:45,680 --> 01:37:50,559
Speaker 1: right circa nineteen circa nineteen eighty, right right around the

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01:37:50,560 --> 01:37:53,040
Speaker 1: time that although not that year, around the time that

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01:37:53,080 --> 01:37:56,800
Speaker 1: I was born. If you heard something loud out on

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01:37:56,800 --> 01:38:00,000
Speaker 1: the street and you looked out your window, I'm assuming

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01:38:00,000 --> 01:38:01,760
Speaker 1: an hour in an urban area, but you know it

1664
01:38:01,760 --> 01:38:03,920
Speaker 1: could be in a town somewhere. You heard something on

1665
01:38:03,960 --> 01:38:06,320
Speaker 1: the street and sure enough, you know you heard you

1666
01:38:06,400 --> 01:38:11,479
Speaker 1: heard somebody yelling, and then someone got stabbed. Well, you

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01:38:11,520 --> 01:38:13,800
Speaker 1: definitely don't have a video camera, you definitely don't have

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01:38:13,840 --> 01:38:17,479
Speaker 1: a phone on you to call the police. And if

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01:38:17,479 --> 01:38:19,320
Speaker 1: you're just walking on the street. If you're not in

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01:38:19,400 --> 01:38:20,760
Speaker 1: your home. I know what I was saying, you're in

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01:38:20,800 --> 01:38:22,679
Speaker 1: your home, you may have to now run to get

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01:38:22,680 --> 01:38:26,439
Speaker 1: to a pay phone somewhere. The whole process is slowed

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01:38:26,439 --> 01:38:29,640
Speaker 1: down dramatically. That's just one way to think about it,

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01:38:29,680 --> 01:38:32,439
Speaker 1: never mind how all the other Then you can pull surveillance,

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01:38:32,439 --> 01:38:33,760
Speaker 1: and you know every time you get an a t

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01:38:33,880 --> 01:38:36,240
Speaker 1: M machine, you're under surveillance. When I go home on

1677
01:38:36,280 --> 01:38:38,479
Speaker 1: the subway here in New York City, there's cameras everywhere.

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01:38:38,840 --> 01:38:41,240
Speaker 1: There are cameras and communication devices all around us. That

1679
01:38:41,280 --> 01:38:44,679
Speaker 1: effects behavior. And here's why I'm thinking about this though,

1680
01:38:45,080 --> 01:38:46,599
Speaker 1: other than just to talk about I did a little

1681
01:38:46,600 --> 01:38:48,559
Speaker 1: research over the weekend on how car theft you just

1682
01:38:48,560 --> 01:38:50,799
Speaker 1: don't hear about it because it doesn't really happen anymore

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01:38:50,880 --> 01:38:54,040
Speaker 1: in this country. Uh it does, but like I said,

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01:38:54,080 --> 01:38:58,479
Speaker 1: down plus percent, at least in New York City. I

1685
01:38:58,479 --> 01:39:00,720
Speaker 1: assume it's like that in the rest of the country.

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01:39:01,400 --> 01:39:03,679
Speaker 1: You gotta always know that you could be recorded now

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01:39:04,200 --> 01:39:06,840
Speaker 1: and it's it's changing a lot, and you your voice

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01:39:06,840 --> 01:39:10,280
Speaker 1: to be recorded, video, your your actions can be recorded,

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Speaker 1: and there's a district attorney. I mean this audio if

1690
01:39:14,000 --> 01:39:16,280
Speaker 1: you have not heard. We're gonna play something before you. Now.

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01:39:16,320 --> 01:39:20,519
Speaker 1: This audio is of a of a young assistant district

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01:39:20,560 --> 01:39:23,880
Speaker 1: attorney in the Dallas area in Texas who's getting a

1693
01:39:24,040 --> 01:39:27,320
Speaker 1: ride from an Uber driver. And so just think about this. Uber,

1694
01:39:27,520 --> 01:39:30,720
Speaker 1: the ride sharing service, very much on the on the

1695
01:39:30,760 --> 01:39:34,000
Speaker 1: forefront of technology. Uber is working with Google and working

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01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:36,679
Speaker 1: with uh different or no, not with Google, I forget,

1697
01:39:36,680 --> 01:39:38,519
Speaker 1: I forget who, but they're working with I think they

1698
01:39:38,560 --> 01:39:41,280
Speaker 1: are I don't know, to create almost like a neural

1699
01:39:41,360 --> 01:39:43,479
Speaker 1: net for cars and ride sharing. And I mean there's

1700
01:39:43,560 --> 01:39:47,160
Speaker 1: this whole future of the whole future of transportation is

1701
01:39:47,240 --> 01:39:50,040
Speaker 1: changing in very interesting ways that will affect all of us.

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01:39:50,120 --> 01:39:54,240
Speaker 1: I should know. Um, but that's the reality of of

1703
01:39:54,520 --> 01:39:57,479
Speaker 1: Uber's future. But right now, Uber means that you know,

1704
01:39:57,520 --> 01:39:59,679
Speaker 1: when you get into a can, you're not just paying

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01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:02,639
Speaker 1: ash for a cab anymore. They know who you are,

1706
01:40:03,240 --> 01:40:06,280
Speaker 1: They've got your name, they've got your credit card. So

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01:40:06,520 --> 01:40:09,519
Speaker 1: there is a level of of trust that is built,

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01:40:09,520 --> 01:40:11,680
Speaker 1: which is a great thing. Right. I've had I've had

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01:40:11,760 --> 01:40:15,880
Speaker 1: fantastic conversations with Uber drivers. Um. I you know, I

1710
01:40:15,960 --> 01:40:18,040
Speaker 1: had one Uber driver some months ago who was talking

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01:40:18,040 --> 01:40:20,719
Speaker 1: to me about how, you know, his parents wanted to

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01:40:20,760 --> 01:40:22,920
Speaker 1: make make him have an arranged marriage. You know. He

1713
01:40:22,960 --> 01:40:25,200
Speaker 1: was like in his mid twenties, and I was like,

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01:40:25,280 --> 01:40:27,280
Speaker 1: you live your life, man, you don't, you know whatever.

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01:40:27,360 --> 01:40:30,960
Speaker 1: Of course, so you know, we so the in depth conversations.

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01:40:30,960 --> 01:40:33,880
Speaker 1: One has an Uber driver. But I've had some great

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01:40:33,920 --> 01:40:37,639
Speaker 1: chats with with Uber drivers over the years. And this

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01:40:37,640 --> 01:40:41,400
Speaker 1: this Uber driver, though, had an assistant district attorney from

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01:40:41,400 --> 01:40:47,599
Speaker 1: Texas um a a young woman about thirty two years old,

1720
01:40:47,640 --> 01:40:50,080
Speaker 1: and she was trying to get a ride home and

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01:40:50,120 --> 01:40:53,000
Speaker 1: she told him to turn off the GPS. And now

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01:40:53,040 --> 01:40:55,639
Speaker 1: she forgets that this is the we're in the Uber era.

1723
01:40:55,760 --> 01:40:57,719
Speaker 1: Now you're not in a cab to give the cavy

1724
01:40:57,720 --> 01:40:59,840
Speaker 1: a couple of crinkled up dollars if you throw up

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01:40:59,840 --> 01:41:01,760
Speaker 1: in the back or something. You know, people used to

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01:41:01,760 --> 01:41:03,920
Speaker 1: do that kind of stuff, and it was the cab

1727
01:41:04,040 --> 01:41:06,720
Speaker 1: driver's problem is a really nasty, stinky thing to do.

1728
01:41:06,840 --> 01:41:09,240
Speaker 1: But now they know you, They've got you. The moment

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01:41:09,280 --> 01:41:11,400
Speaker 1: you get in that ubercar, you know your behavior is

1730
01:41:11,560 --> 01:41:17,440
Speaker 1: literally being graded and recorded. And this assistant district attorney

1731
01:41:17,640 --> 01:41:21,599
Speaker 1: down in Dallas forgot that. It seems she had had

1732
01:41:22,360 --> 01:41:26,920
Speaker 1: a few adult beverages. I'm not sure what But I'm

1733
01:41:26,960 --> 01:41:31,840
Speaker 1: guessing maybe some Apple Teeny's and maybe a Cosmo. But

1734
01:41:32,280 --> 01:41:35,160
Speaker 1: she decided to get into it with the driver. She turned.

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01:41:35,400 --> 01:41:38,040
Speaker 1: She told him to turn off the GPS and she

1736
01:41:38,040 --> 01:41:42,000
Speaker 1: would give him directions. She got lost, understandably under the

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01:41:42,000 --> 01:41:48,080
Speaker 1: situation because she's clearly inebriated. And then this happens, Tyrone,

1738
01:41:49,040 --> 01:41:56,599
Speaker 1: take me home, grow up? Oh my god, this so much.

1739
01:41:58,120 --> 01:42:00,519
Speaker 1: Just take me home, dude. I always want to go home.

1740
01:42:00,560 --> 01:42:04,360
Speaker 1: I'm asking you politely to please because now pass the cock.

1741
01:42:04,840 --> 01:42:08,120
Speaker 1: Either dropped me off at my house or await for

1742
01:42:08,200 --> 01:42:11,439
Speaker 1: the cops, because I'm not wrong. I am waiting for

1743
01:42:11,479 --> 01:42:21,840
Speaker 1: the cops. Jesus Rising, stupid. Wait, I want a joke,

1744
01:42:22,880 --> 01:42:30,200
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ. I'll make sure Cooper does just literally dropped

1745
01:42:30,240 --> 01:42:35,280
Speaker 1: me off at my house like we paid you to do. Ma'am.

1746
01:42:35,360 --> 01:42:37,600
Speaker 1: I entered the ride and I asked you politely to

1747
01:42:37,680 --> 01:42:40,400
Speaker 1: step out into the ride. Not at my house. You

1748
01:42:40,400 --> 01:42:47,000
Speaker 1: think I'm gonna get out on a side straight? No, ma'am,

1749
01:42:47,080 --> 01:42:52,240
Speaker 1: Please leave my vehicle. Why don't you take me to

1750
01:42:52,520 --> 01:43:00,080
Speaker 1: that destination? Ma'am exit my vehicle. Please, it's your kidnapping me.

1751
01:43:04,439 --> 01:43:06,720
Speaker 1: I had so like you know when you picked me up.

1752
01:43:07,200 --> 01:43:09,320
Speaker 1: I gave you destination. You're not taking me there. So

1753
01:43:10,200 --> 01:43:14,439
Speaker 1: under the law, it's recklessly keeping me from where I

1754
01:43:14,479 --> 01:43:19,120
Speaker 1: was going. And it's your kidnapping, right beating a third

1755
01:43:20,439 --> 01:43:26,120
Speaker 1: too close degree felony. So do you want to take

1756
01:43:26,160 --> 01:43:29,439
Speaker 1: me home? You're kidnapping me right now? Please get out

1757
01:43:29,439 --> 01:43:34,120
Speaker 1: of my car. Kidnapping. I'm not scared. I'm not scared.

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01:43:36,479 --> 01:43:39,559
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it's amazing. He's trying to be nice

1759
01:43:39,600 --> 01:43:43,240
Speaker 1: to you. Yeah, nice fell out. Do you want to

1760
01:43:43,240 --> 01:43:55,160
Speaker 1: take me home? Or do you want to were okay,

1761
01:43:55,160 --> 01:43:56,880
Speaker 1: we're yeah, we're pretty much at the end of it, right,

1762
01:43:56,920 --> 01:44:00,280
Speaker 1: I mean, wow, um, but we didn't I was. I

1763
01:44:00,280 --> 01:44:02,559
Speaker 1: mean the kidnapping is my favorite thing because she's an

1764
01:44:02,600 --> 01:44:06,320
Speaker 1: assistant district attorney. Everybody, this is a person who prosecutes

1765
01:44:06,360 --> 01:44:10,760
Speaker 1: people for a living for crimes. She's like, it's like kidnapping,

1766
01:44:11,200 --> 01:44:14,480
Speaker 1: Like it's like a first to third or like seventh

1767
01:44:14,600 --> 01:44:19,720
Speaker 1: degree misdemeanor to the nth power I think of like

1768
01:44:19,800 --> 01:44:26,240
Speaker 1: the kidnapping statute. So yeah, and then she I'll tell

1769
01:44:26,240 --> 01:44:28,439
Speaker 1: you really In some ways, the worst part for her

1770
01:44:28,479 --> 01:44:31,320
Speaker 1: of the whole thing was she also was on video

1771
01:44:31,400 --> 01:44:34,240
Speaker 1: saying do you think they're gonna believe like I'm a

1772
01:44:34,320 --> 01:44:39,599
Speaker 1: district attorney and you're just an Uber driver. Oh yeah,

1773
01:44:39,680 --> 01:44:42,800
Speaker 1: by the way, any that's that's when when she goes there,

1774
01:44:43,360 --> 01:44:45,560
Speaker 1: any sympathy that any watching the video would have for like,

1775
01:44:45,600 --> 01:44:48,000
Speaker 1: all right, she's drunk whatever, you know, when she goes

1776
01:44:48,080 --> 01:44:53,519
Speaker 1: to the I'm going to now browbeat somebody who's earning

1777
01:44:53,560 --> 01:44:57,000
Speaker 1: an honest living and providing a service that people wanted

1778
01:44:57,040 --> 01:45:00,600
Speaker 1: doing so professionally as this guy is clearly do it.

1779
01:45:00,640 --> 01:45:02,400
Speaker 1: He's like, can you please get out of my vehicle

1780
01:45:02,720 --> 01:45:05,400
Speaker 1: that she's going to talk down to somebody like that.

1781
01:45:05,880 --> 01:45:08,599
Speaker 1: She didn't didn't do yourself any favors. But she forgot

1782
01:45:08,680 --> 01:45:11,879
Speaker 1: she forgot Buck's rule, which is that technology is changing everything.

1783
01:45:12,200 --> 01:45:15,400
Speaker 1: It's changing everything right now and if you are in

1784
01:45:15,439 --> 01:45:17,080
Speaker 1: an uber and it's one of the reason why I

1785
01:45:17,080 --> 01:45:21,000
Speaker 1: like Uber so much, because you know, there's a lot

1786
01:45:21,200 --> 01:45:25,439
Speaker 1: of middleman transactions in the past, and this will be

1787
01:45:25,520 --> 01:45:28,840
Speaker 1: a part of our conversation in the future about blockchain

1788
01:45:28,920 --> 01:45:32,320
Speaker 1: and bitcoin. A lot of those middleman transactions, whether it's

1789
01:45:32,320 --> 01:45:35,799
Speaker 1: a bank dealing with a realtor, is to create trust

1790
01:45:35,840 --> 01:45:39,800
Speaker 1: and accountability in the transaction, and with something like a

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01:45:39,920 --> 01:45:43,640
Speaker 1: rideshare service or any number of things. Now, um, you

1792
01:45:43,680 --> 01:45:46,880
Speaker 1: know you can now get a massage therapist who can

1793
01:45:46,920 --> 01:45:49,200
Speaker 1: come into your home. There's a there's an app. There's

1794
01:45:49,200 --> 01:45:52,439
Speaker 1: literally an app for that. There are personal trainer apps

1795
01:45:52,439 --> 01:45:55,759
Speaker 1: where the and instead of just going through the yellow Pages,

1796
01:45:55,800 --> 01:45:59,720
Speaker 1: are going by word of mouth. You have that verification

1797
01:45:59,760 --> 01:46:04,280
Speaker 1: of someboddy and that validation of them on both sides. Right,

1798
01:46:04,320 --> 01:46:07,200
Speaker 1: that can create trust in the transaction. But that also

1799
01:46:07,240 --> 01:46:11,879
Speaker 1: means that behavior is now recorded, that your words, your actions,

1800
01:46:11,960 --> 01:46:16,640
Speaker 1: your deeds are u scrutinized at a higher level or

1801
01:46:16,720 --> 01:46:19,479
Speaker 1: can be scrutinized at a much higher level. And I

1802
01:46:19,520 --> 01:46:22,640
Speaker 1: will tell you that assistant distc Attorney, her career is

1803
01:46:22,680 --> 01:46:25,559
Speaker 1: never gonna be the same. She was canned after that,

1804
01:46:25,680 --> 01:46:28,559
Speaker 1: she was fired, which what can you imagine? I mean

1805
01:46:28,560 --> 01:46:31,639
Speaker 1: that now they're gonna have her process. She she's gonna

1806
01:46:31,680 --> 01:46:34,360
Speaker 1: be up there like, excuse me, sir, but you know

1807
01:46:34,400 --> 01:46:37,519
Speaker 1: your public drunkenness is unacceptable, you know, I don't. I

1808
01:46:37,520 --> 01:46:42,040
Speaker 1: don't think that the prosecutor can be on video going

1809
01:46:42,240 --> 01:46:44,240
Speaker 1: going off on a guy and and saying that it's

1810
01:46:44,439 --> 01:46:45,800
Speaker 1: first of all, it's like she doesn't even know the

1811
01:46:45,880 --> 01:46:47,800
Speaker 1: law too I mean, I don't care how drunk I've been,

1812
01:46:48,040 --> 01:46:49,800
Speaker 1: I wouldn't think that being in someone's car or they're

1813
01:46:49,800 --> 01:46:51,840
Speaker 1: telling me to get out of the car is kidnapping.

1814
01:46:52,080 --> 01:46:54,760
Speaker 1: She's got that. It might be like abandonment on the

1815
01:46:54,840 --> 01:46:57,599
Speaker 1: highway side, you know, or the sidewalk, which isn't a crime,

1816
01:46:57,640 --> 01:47:00,320
Speaker 1: but it's definitely not kidnapping. So she got fired. But

1817
01:47:00,560 --> 01:47:03,880
Speaker 1: it's my rule, which is that technology now means that

1818
01:47:03,960 --> 01:47:06,680
Speaker 1: every everything is everything is recorded, and that means that

1819
01:47:06,720 --> 01:47:10,479
Speaker 1: our our behavior shifting accordingly. We'll get into some Team

1820
01:47:10,479 --> 01:47:12,240
Speaker 1: Buck Speaks in a minute. I'll be your right back

1821
01:47:12,240 --> 01:47:15,479
Speaker 1: team alright, Team, It is that time and the show

1822
01:47:15,479 --> 01:47:19,000
Speaker 1: when we get into Team Buck Speaks, which is when

1823
01:47:19,080 --> 01:47:22,800
Speaker 1: I get the opportunity to read your messages, one of

1824
01:47:22,840 --> 01:47:26,479
Speaker 1: my favorite parts of the whole show. I very much

1825
01:47:27,120 --> 01:47:30,000
Speaker 1: enjoy this aspect of what I get to do day

1826
01:47:30,040 --> 01:47:33,880
Speaker 1: in and day out. So with that, and I'm now

1827
01:47:33,920 --> 01:47:36,240
Speaker 1: as I'm on air with you, I'm actually looking for

1828
01:47:36,320 --> 01:47:39,360
Speaker 1: one in particular that of course I am having trouble

1829
01:47:39,520 --> 01:47:43,200
Speaker 1: finding um. But we have hold on a second here,

1830
01:47:43,960 --> 01:47:49,439
Speaker 1: um Shaun writing, we are going to elect Roy Moore

1831
01:47:49,600 --> 01:47:54,320
Speaker 1: in Alabama. If you see Hannity tell him he's wrong

1832
01:47:55,000 --> 01:47:58,000
Speaker 1: before he loses a bunch of listeners in Alabama. Innocent

1833
01:47:58,080 --> 01:48:02,840
Speaker 1: until proven guilty. Y'all need to become CNN over at Fox. Well,

1834
01:48:02,920 --> 01:48:08,280
Speaker 1: I don't work at Fox, but uh and um, I yeah,

1835
01:48:08,360 --> 01:48:10,680
Speaker 1: you mean, we'll see what happens with Alabama. I don't know.

1836
01:48:10,760 --> 01:48:14,559
Speaker 1: It's looking looking pretty rough these days for those who

1837
01:48:14,640 --> 01:48:19,439
Speaker 1: are well, we'll see. Uh. It's a crazy it's a

1838
01:48:19,479 --> 01:48:24,000
Speaker 1: crazy political environment. That much is for sure, I think so. Um.

1839
01:48:24,120 --> 01:48:29,839
Speaker 1: I appreciate the uh, the advice, and I will certainly

1840
01:48:30,680 --> 01:48:33,040
Speaker 1: keep it in mind as we go forward. Here. All right,

1841
01:48:33,040 --> 01:48:35,800
Speaker 1: here we go. This is a great one. Dave writes

1842
01:48:35,840 --> 01:48:38,799
Speaker 1: in Buck your show is the best. As an army officer,

1843
01:48:39,240 --> 01:48:42,680
Speaker 1: I really appreciate your historical deep dives. Would it be

1844
01:48:42,760 --> 01:48:46,360
Speaker 1: possible to post them separately from the full shows so

1845
01:48:46,520 --> 01:48:48,960
Speaker 1: that they are easier to find. I would love to

1846
01:48:49,040 --> 01:48:52,400
Speaker 1: let my kids here what they are not getting in school. Also,

1847
01:48:52,600 --> 01:48:56,320
Speaker 1: thanks for continually breaking down and highlighting the differences between

1848
01:48:56,360 --> 01:49:01,280
Speaker 1: sunny and shiite and why they do? What do shields high?

1849
01:49:01,360 --> 01:49:04,519
Speaker 1: And this is great. PS. When our CRM unit was

1850
01:49:04,520 --> 01:49:09,040
Speaker 1: in Afghanistan, our motto was shields high. That's awesome. Dave,

1851
01:49:09,240 --> 01:49:12,080
Speaker 1: that's like one of the best messages I've gotten a

1852
01:49:12,160 --> 01:49:14,600
Speaker 1: very long time. And uh, I am honored, thank you

1853
01:49:14,720 --> 01:49:17,640
Speaker 1: very much, very much that I appreciate it. All Right,

1854
01:49:17,840 --> 01:49:20,559
Speaker 1: now let's get oh oh and to your question, I

1855
01:49:20,600 --> 01:49:22,800
Speaker 1: got all. I got all almost weepy there when I

1856
01:49:22,800 --> 01:49:25,160
Speaker 1: heard that your unit's motto was shields hie Uh. To

1857
01:49:25,240 --> 01:49:28,200
Speaker 1: your question about history, Uh, in the New Year, and

1858
01:49:28,280 --> 01:49:31,160
Speaker 1: those who have been long time Team Buck listeners are

1859
01:49:31,160 --> 01:49:34,200
Speaker 1: gonna say, yeah, right, it's happening, guys. In the new Year,

1860
01:49:34,240 --> 01:49:39,000
Speaker 1: there will be a series of separate history podcasts. It

1861
01:49:39,040 --> 01:49:43,400
Speaker 1: will be a separate podcast from the show. And it

1862
01:49:43,520 --> 01:49:46,360
Speaker 1: is happening, I believe either January or February. But it

1863
01:49:46,439 --> 01:49:49,400
Speaker 1: is happening, meaning that the Boss is here, wanted to happen.

1864
01:49:49,840 --> 01:49:52,920
Speaker 1: We've talked about it History Deep Dives. They will be

1865
01:49:53,120 --> 01:49:55,720
Speaker 1: probably in the realm of forty minutes to an hour

1866
01:49:55,800 --> 01:49:59,360
Speaker 1: and episode uh. And it's just gonna be the most

1867
01:49:59,439 --> 01:50:05,000
Speaker 1: fascinating stuff that I find from history, So all different battles,

1868
01:50:05,040 --> 01:50:09,360
Speaker 1: but also just storylines that we should all know. Uh.

1869
01:50:09,400 --> 01:50:11,800
Speaker 1: And and that it'll be within a theme that will

1870
01:50:11,800 --> 01:50:16,040
Speaker 1: be largely cross versus Crescent, so a lot of not

1871
01:50:16,120 --> 01:50:18,680
Speaker 1: just not not history of the Islamic world, but the

1872
01:50:18,720 --> 01:50:23,839
Speaker 1: history of the battles back and forth between Christianity and Islam.

1873
01:50:24,080 --> 01:50:26,640
Speaker 1: And so you can imagine some of the episodes are

1874
01:50:26,640 --> 01:50:28,680
Speaker 1: already up in up in my head, but there will

1875
01:50:28,720 --> 01:50:31,439
Speaker 1: be others as well. So that is coming in the

1876
01:50:31,520 --> 01:50:35,240
Speaker 1: new year. It is happening. It has been decided. So

1877
01:50:35,320 --> 01:50:38,519
Speaker 1: I'm glad you guys enjoy those. Uh alright, we have

1878
01:50:38,560 --> 01:50:40,760
Speaker 1: Sam right again. Hi Buck, I applaud your coverage of

1879
01:50:40,760 --> 01:50:43,160
Speaker 1: the Menendez story. I think you've been one of the

1880
01:50:43,160 --> 01:50:46,639
Speaker 1: only people in media giving it the depth and reporting

1881
01:50:46,680 --> 01:50:49,559
Speaker 1: it deserves. One interesting aspect of the cases I don't

1882
01:50:49,560 --> 01:50:51,599
Speaker 1: think even you have mentioned is how much more serious

1883
01:50:51,640 --> 01:50:54,080
Speaker 1: everything got for him in the media and among other

1884
01:50:54,120 --> 01:50:58,360
Speaker 1: Democrats once Menendez came out against the Iran deal. Even

1885
01:50:58,400 --> 01:51:00,479
Speaker 1: just looking at the dates on the Google ser results

1886
01:51:00,479 --> 01:51:04,160
Speaker 1: creates an interesting timeline. I'm also wondering how many other

1887
01:51:04,320 --> 01:51:09,360
Speaker 1: members of UH Team Buck Israel. Maybe they could right

1888
01:51:09,600 --> 01:51:12,720
Speaker 1: into Team Buck Speaks. I'd love to put together a

1889
01:51:12,720 --> 01:51:16,200
Speaker 1: Facebook group and maybe even organize Alive listening get together.

1890
01:51:16,479 --> 01:51:17,760
Speaker 1: Might be hard to get people to come out at

1891
01:51:17,800 --> 01:51:20,120
Speaker 1: one am, but maybe if we serve gluten free pizza,

1892
01:51:20,280 --> 01:51:23,880
Speaker 1: dark chocolate and frothy latte's. It will happen. Shields High

1893
01:51:24,160 --> 01:51:26,960
Speaker 1: from Sam Will Sam. I know we have some folks

1894
01:51:27,080 --> 01:51:29,320
Speaker 1: who are Team Bucket Israel who listened to the show

1895
01:51:30,040 --> 01:51:32,920
Speaker 1: via the internet, either on bucks Exton dot com or

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01:51:32,960 --> 01:51:36,200
Speaker 1: the I Heart app, or by listening to the podcast

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01:51:36,280 --> 01:51:40,240
Speaker 1: on iTunes. How many I don't know, so I can't

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01:51:40,280 --> 01:51:42,360
Speaker 1: give you an exact figure, but there certainly are some

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01:51:42,400 --> 01:51:45,120
Speaker 1: because I've heard from them. And if you could get

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01:51:45,120 --> 01:51:49,040
Speaker 1: together a Team buck party in Jerusalem or Tel Aviv,

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01:51:49,120 --> 01:51:52,120
Speaker 1: that sounds awesome to me. So I wish you the

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01:51:52,120 --> 01:51:53,559
Speaker 1: best of luck with that endeavor and let me know

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01:51:53,560 --> 01:51:55,599
Speaker 1: if I can help. And with that, I would say

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01:51:55,640 --> 01:51:58,200
Speaker 1: to all of you, please do download the podcast buck

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01:51:58,200 --> 01:52:01,719
Speaker 1: Sexton with American Out on iTunes. I have a feeling

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01:52:01,800 --> 01:52:04,000
Speaker 1: we're going to have quite a show coming up tomorrow

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Speaker 1: and the next day, so get ready for it. Until then,

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Speaker 1: as I always say, no matter what comes your way,

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Speaker 1: Shields High,