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Speaker 1: Welcome to Sharper Square, presented by Hard Road's bet We

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Speaker 2: This is the betting show.

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Speaker 1: That makes the squares sharper. It makes the wise guys

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Speaker 1: pay attention.

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Speaker 2: I am Chad Millman. I am joined by my co host,

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Speaker 2: my bff, my companion, Myke combined er professional Better Simon Hunter. Hello, soymon,

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Speaker 2: how are we doing?

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Speaker 3: Chad?

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Speaker 2: Listen?

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Speaker 1: Brother, I stayed up late and I was rewarded for

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Speaker 1: that over the weekend. Let's summarize, Okay, Over the weekend,

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Speaker 1: five teams came back from two dutchdown deficits to win outright.

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Speaker 1: Six teams came back from double digit deficits. We bet

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Speaker 1: on five of those teams. We put two of those

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Speaker 1: teams in our final five.

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Speaker 2: The last of those was the Jag. This was all mine, brother,

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Speaker 2: I get all the flowers.

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Speaker 1: You encouraged me, and I would say a supportive way

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Speaker 1: because you called this my baby and we should put

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Speaker 1: it in. Others might say you were bullying me. But look,

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Speaker 1: we could have had an easy Monday. We could have

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Speaker 1: been out of the weekend three and two On Sunday,

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Speaker 1: I could have gone to bed by eight nine pm.

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Speaker 2: Last night. Instead, I had to watch Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 1: I had to watch Trevor Lawrence throw a pass two

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Speaker 1: yards beyond the line of scrimmage because he completely lost

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Speaker 1: where he was.

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Speaker 2: I had to watch Trevor.

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Speaker 1: Lawrence get multiple delay of game calls because he cannot

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Speaker 1: seem to manage the clock and the play call and

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Speaker 1: the movement and all the things you were supposed to

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Speaker 1: do as a professional quarterback with a guarantee at one

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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty five million dollars. I listened to Troy

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Speaker 1: Aikman try his hardest not to call Trevor Lawrence kind

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Speaker 1: of an idiot for making all these stupid mistakes, for

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Speaker 1: trying to squeeze passes into double coverage and impossible windows

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Speaker 1: instead of taking the easy outlet pass. Am I the

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Speaker 1: only one when the Jags were on their own ten

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Speaker 1: yard line and had a seven point lead, who wasn't screaming,

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Speaker 1: why the fuck are you putting the ball in Trevor

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Speaker 1: Lawrence's hands right now? I would have bet minus a

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Speaker 1: thousand that he was gonna throw a pick, like it

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Speaker 1: was insane to be doing what they had done. And

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Speaker 1: yet and yet he's so pretty. He's so pretty and

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Speaker 1: he's so physically gifted that pastor Brian Thomas. When he fell,

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Speaker 1: he got back up, panicked and just ran such a sweet,

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Speaker 1: sweet boy Simon.

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Speaker 2: The Jags covered the three and a half.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, really really dumb game, and we'll take it every time.

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Speaker 4: You know, I'm like, you probably had zero faith in

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Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence was going to come back for the win.

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Speaker 4: That was just a classic Mahomes come back. It's over win.

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Speaker 4: But shockingly they left the kid too much time and

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Speaker 4: made some big time through So we'll give Trevor his

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Speaker 4: flowers again. Like you said, he mixed so many idiotic

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Speaker 4: plays that's why we rip them. But yeah, that's the

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Speaker 4: unique spot chat. The pros agreed with you, even if

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Speaker 4: I didn't agree with it. I'm man enough to admit

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Speaker 4: when I'm wrong, and not that I forced you to

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Speaker 4: put that one in, but it was I did bully

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Speaker 4: a little bit, just because it's like, dude, I already

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Speaker 4: gave you your flowers that you were on the right side.

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Speaker 3: The pros are agreeing with you.

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Speaker 4: Stick to it like put it in, Like I'm happy

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Speaker 4: to putting my own picks in, but I also want

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Speaker 4: you to put picks in. So we're sweating last night,

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Speaker 4: and you have that feeling of doom and gloom that

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Speaker 4: I feel every weekend, which I know you do too.

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Speaker 3: That one right there was like you're like.

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Speaker 4: You said, you're baby, So I'm glad we shoved it

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Speaker 4: in no regrets even if it was gonna lose. It

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Speaker 4: was like, I still feel like it was the good

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Speaker 4: bet because the Jags defense, which is part of the

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Speaker 4: reason I agree to take it. They got that insane

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Speaker 4: Quickly becoming the defensive player of the year, had an

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Speaker 4: Jags fans. Trevor Lawrence like that's a statement. Game maybe

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Speaker 4: this is season's shape up the bizarre world right now.

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Speaker 3: I love it. Well.

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Speaker 1: Listen, A buddy of mine texted me last night, this

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Speaker 1: game is drunk because it was so weird. Look, when

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Speaker 1: I liked the Jags, I made it pretty clear during

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Speaker 2: I liked the Jags in spite of Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 1: I liked them because of the defense and because they

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Speaker 2: And that's sort of what happened last night. So good

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Speaker 2: for us, good for the week. We went three and.

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Speaker 1: Two last week, and our five favorite picks from our

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Speaker 1: Sunday Morning show.

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Speaker 2: You can see the graphic we're putting it up.

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Speaker 1: We won with the Texans, the Commanders, and the Jags.

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Speaker 2: We lost with the Jets and the Rams. Three and

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Speaker 2: two on the week fifteen to ten.

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Speaker 1: On the year, through five weeks, we are five games

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Speaker 1: above five hundred. I'm taking that every single day of

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Speaker 1: the week. Make sure you check out that Sunday Morning

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Speaker 1: show if you want the games that will be our

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Speaker 1: official five favorite games. After we check out latest lines

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Speaker 1: and injuries and all that stuff. This is the Tuesday

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Speaker 1: Show where you will get our official up to date record.

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Speaker 2: Like I said, for the year.

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Speaker 1: Now fifteen and ten, we're going to review the entire

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Speaker 1: slate today Simon, thirteen teams in the NFL are below

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Speaker 1: five hundred. That's forty percent. Sixteen teams are above five hundred.

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Speaker 1: I feel like this is not parody so much as

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Speaker 1: it is like the haves.

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Speaker 2: And the have nots.

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Speaker 1: I want to know how will we have success and

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Speaker 1: not get suckered this week?

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Speaker 1: Thursday Night Football, eight fifteen pm Eastern on Amazon Prime,

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles visiting the New York Football Giants. The number

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Speaker 1: is seven and a half. Seems like it's moving towards seven,

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Speaker 2: Give me your take. I got thoughts, but I kind

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Speaker 2: of want to hear where you're at.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say it's probably a giant line. Probably

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Speaker 4: That's gonna go a lot of challenging looks. But it's

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Speaker 4: This will be in every teaser, every money line parlay.

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Speaker 4: This will be a heavy, heavily bet team Eagles money

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Speaker 4: But like Chad said, I think this will get driven

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Speaker 4: the fact that this Eagles team is perceived a struggle

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Speaker 4: No one really knows because it's such a short week,

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Speaker 4: so it's it's tough picking these Thursday's games, especially when

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Speaker 4: you just don't have an injury report here early Tuesday morning.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, for me, just going off the number, I'll

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Speaker 1: Yeah, look, Landon Dickerson, we don't know his status for

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Speaker 2: I don't love it. I don't like either side, Sir

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Speaker 2: International Waters the Land that Love forgot, Simon.

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Speaker 1: I know you love England because you're from there, not

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Speaker 1: from England. This weekend's game between the Denver Broncos and

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Speaker 1: Are seven and a half point underdogs against the Broncos.

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Speaker 1: Of course, we think there's value in the Jets for

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Speaker 1: whatever that means when you're betting on the Jets, because

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Speaker 1: every week there's going to be value on the Jets

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Speaker 1: because nobody wants to bet them, and everybody's going to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'll end up being on some type of

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Speaker 4: tick the old line, like I might take Broncos when

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they could just roll like we've seen this Jets

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Speaker 4: team is highly sysfunctional. Now they're on the road in

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Speaker 4: an international game with not that much leadership, Like, how

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Speaker 4: it's like, oh my god, talk about totally opposite spectrums

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Speaker 3: Of course I'll I'll just be a sucker with the public.

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Speaker 4: Take the favorites, and it just it feels like last week,

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Speaker 1: thousand yards of offense in this game. You know, the

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Speaker 1: You could argue Dak is playing as well as anybody

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Speaker 2: Also very easy to pass on it.

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Speaker 4: Shocked to hear this from Chad, But really, yeah, this

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Speaker 1: So I don't like the Cowboys at all. I don't

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Speaker 4: Well, you Chad passed this week. How many games you're

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Speaker 4: going to pass on? Jesus Christ again?

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Speaker 2: Maybe all of them? Maybe I only want to make.

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Speaker 3: Like this chat after one of your jags. Bet, Now

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Speaker 2: What has happened? I am disciplined, I am really pleased.

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Speaker 4: With so many picks. Eventually, Uh yeah, give me Panthers

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Speaker 4: be at home. Maybe that's maybe that's our thing for

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Speaker 4: avoid them on the road, but at home they have

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Speaker 4: this different type of confidence that I really see with

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Speaker 3: And again small sample.

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Speaker 4: They're two and three this season, but their two wins

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Speaker 4: They put up twenty seven points and thirty points like

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Speaker 4: Atlanta's defense. Okay, they're not the best, they still had

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Speaker 4: they're like you said, down seventeen to nothing. Bryce Young

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Speaker 4: getting just beat up, and he's no worse for the wear,

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Speaker 4: like I checked today, not on the injury report, so I.

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Speaker 3: Think he's fine. And yeah, I'm shocked you don't like this.

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Speaker 4: Like this Cowboys team is good, like you said, Dak's

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Speaker 4: nothing in that game. So I just think this Cowboys

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Speaker 4: team will keep being overvalued, And like you're feeling, I

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Speaker 4: hard Rock here at three every one of the Graund's

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Speaker 4: gonna be coming in on this Cowboys team, especially at

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Speaker 4: minus three, So I think it's gonna be a good number.

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Speaker 4: I literally have just graded at a pick. So it's

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Speaker 4: like I'm getting a ton of value in my opinion

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Speaker 3: So yeah, three and a half with the hook.

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Speaker 4: No brainer. Might have to bully you to have this

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Speaker 4: team that I feel like has proven to us, the

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Speaker 4: last year. This is a functioning offense with a quarterback

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Speaker 4: and could push the ball downfield, which which was lacking

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Speaker 4: He's making some big time throws. I like you said,

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Speaker 4: this is gonna be a shootout. That's why I like

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Speaker 4: the hook. Get the three and a half. If you

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Speaker 4: count on Carolina.

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Speaker 2: I did not expect you to have vash drogam opinion

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well I'm not passing, that's for sure. Unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: I don't have to have an opinion on every single game.

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Speaker 1: I'm not against this game. I'm just not four either

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Speaker 4: I know that just saying if you pass on four

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles Chargers at Miami Dolphins. Dolphins are four and

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Speaker 1: a half point underdogs at home. This is how bad

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Speaker 1: the Chargers looked against the Commanders. The early moves in

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Speaker 1: this game were on the Dolphins, pushing the line from

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Speaker 1: five and a half to four and a half.

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Speaker 2: Not a huge move.

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Speaker 1: Five is a dead number, but early moves are usually

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Speaker 1: going to be made by professional better so that is

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Speaker 1: an interesting indicator to me. In addition to all the

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Speaker 1: O line injuries the Chargers have, they're now going to

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Speaker 2: What do we think?

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Speaker 1: What do we think would need to happen for Miami

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Speaker 1: to keep this game close and cover four and a

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Speaker 4: Well, I can't believe they've moved the Chargers to four

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Speaker 4: of like the Chargers and this number. Yeah, Like, isn't

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Speaker 4: this a great match for them going against a horrible

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Speaker 2: And Yes, and a not good pass rush right, and.

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Speaker 4: Not good pass rush, so I don't really get the

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Speaker 4: professional love. I'm looking forward to hearing from a bunch

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Speaker 4: I think it was five and a half, and it's like, Okay,

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Speaker 4: maybe this gets the six and we take a position

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Speaker 4: it's making me be like, Okay, this is starting to

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Speaker 4: become a Charger's number, So four, three and a half

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Speaker 4: if it gets there, I'm really starting to like that

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Speaker 4: Chargers side and trying not to overreact. Like you said,

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Speaker 4: big injuries. Obviously, the rookie running back's a big deal,

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Speaker 4: but I also think that it's just a plug and

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Speaker 4: But I think the other guys they're bringing in there,

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Speaker 4: I think they're about to plug and play like I don't.

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Speaker 3: I'm not trying to overreact too much of the rookie

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Speaker 4: It's the My favorite thing I saw from a lot

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Speaker 4: of Chargers fans was they have this unique opportunity with

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Speaker 4: this team because this division feels like it's up for grabs.

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Speaker 4: The Saints have a arguably one of the best centers

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Speaker 4: Go get the Saint center, Go get Camara.

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Speaker 3: That that's like to me, this is like an easy.

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Speaker 4: Play for the Chargers because even if the rookie comes back,

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Speaker 4: this is it for him. So I've loved that a

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Speaker 4: lot of people talking about it for the Chargers like that,

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Speaker 4: to me is a winning move from their front office.

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Speaker 4: Your center is abysmally bad, Go get a center. Fix

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Speaker 4: that middle will be back soon enough. That could be

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Speaker 4: a huge upgraded Chargers team. So that's talking future plans

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Speaker 4: just for this game, though. I'm starting to really love

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Speaker 4: I'd be all over Miami, but this is moving too much.

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Speaker 4: This Miami team is bad. We both agree this is

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Speaker 4: saw him, Mike McDonald walking back to the locker room,

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Speaker 3: That was totally done checked out.

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Speaker 4: So this could another game where I'm betting all line,

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Speaker 4: like I'm going to take Chargers minus nine and a half.

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Speaker 4: I'll take them to minus thirteen and a half. This

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Speaker 4: could easy to be our hardball game where his team

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Speaker 1: Simon, I asked the question about why do we think,

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Speaker 1: what do we think Miami needs to do? Keep this

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Speaker 1: game close and cover the four and a half, because

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Speaker 1: I actually can't see a scenario.

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Speaker 3: You never know, you never know.

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Speaker 1: But they're just not Like the play calling isn't good enough,

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Speaker 1: the confidence isn't good enough.

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Speaker 3: You can't run the ball.

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Speaker 2: They can't run the ball.

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Speaker 3: It's crazy.

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Speaker 2: And so like we saw.

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Speaker 1: It against the Panthers, like they had a seventeen point lead,

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Speaker 1: it was a dead bet. I thought, all right, it's

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Speaker 1: like a coaching canalis who has kept this team moving forward.

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Speaker 1: It's Bryce Young who seems to be unconscious when it

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Speaker 1: comes to losing, like he just doesn't seem to care.

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Speaker 1: And that that, by the way, plays into your argument

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Speaker 1: for the Panthers against the Cowboys. But Miami, I looked

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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, three plays punt, three plays punt, three

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Speaker 1: passes that were in complete, it was a lot of penalties.

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Speaker 1: It was the Miami team that is just not very

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Speaker 1: well coached with not enough talent against a Chargers team

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Speaker 1: that will be well coached. The number is shrinking two

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Speaker 1: losses off two losses. Why wouldn't I like the Chargers

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Speaker 1: in this spot? I don't want to pass on every game.

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Speaker 3: Well, we need one favorite.

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Speaker 4: I'm glad at least we found a favorite to start

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00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:54,440
Speaker 4: this week where it's like, if we get to three

441
00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:55,880
Speaker 4: and a half, this will probably be an auto play

442
00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 4: for contest.

443
00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:00,960
Speaker 1: Brother, I got a whole bunch more favorites that I'm meant. Okay,

444
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:08,639
Speaker 1: do not do not worry about it. Seattle at Jacksonville, dude,

445
00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,600
Speaker 1: flip flopping away this game. It's like a fish out

446
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 1: of water, just flip and flop and flip and flop.

447
00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,240
Speaker 1: Two nights ago, the Seahawks for one and a half

448
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 1: point dogs. This moved off some money on Monday morning

449
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:26,159
Speaker 1: before the Jags Monday night football game against Kansas City.

450
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 1: Then it moved again right after it moved to the

451
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,520
Speaker 1: Seahawks being favorites before the game yesterday.

452
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:35,280
Speaker 2: Then it moved again to the.

453
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:42,320
Speaker 1: Seahawks as underdogs right after the Jags beat the Chiefs.

454
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 1: I don't know how I don't love Seattle here, Like

455
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 1: I really want to see the practice reports because I

456
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,880
Speaker 1: like last week they were without Julian Love, their safety,

457
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 1: without Devin Witherspoon, their cornerback, without DeMarcus Lawrence, their defensive end.

458
00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,680
Speaker 1: Tarik Woland left the game with the Nkashia and he's

459
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 1: not even that good. He's been getting burned all year.

460
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,719
Speaker 1: Then they have backups, and you could see the issues

461
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 1: they were having in the secondary with the way the

462
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 1: Bucks were just able to move the ball downfield in

463
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:16,680
Speaker 1: a shootout. But I'm not back in Trevor Lawrence anymore.

464
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,879
Speaker 1: I feel like I got what I needed out of him.

465
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 1: It's actually not that much of a mystery. He's incredibly talented,

466
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 1: there's no doubt about it, and physically gifted. You watched

467
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,719
Speaker 1: him make that third and seventh throw to Brian Thomas

468
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 1: in the last drive that was just perfect. You watched

469
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 1: him make that play where he got tripped by his

470
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,879
Speaker 1: offensive lineman, got up, was panicked and realized, oh, I

471
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,640
Speaker 1: can run because I'm six six two thirty and get

472
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,919
Speaker 1: into the end zone. Like obviously, the guy's physical gifts,

473
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:50,359
Speaker 1: but he's also the guy who gets these delay games

474
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 1: that his coach seems to let him get the delay

475
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 1: games and not take times at take time outs as punishment.

476
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:01,679
Speaker 1: I don't think he's a guy you can bet on

477
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,399
Speaker 1: in a regular basis if the number isn't perfect. So

478
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 1: I kind of like Seattle here.

479
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 3: That's gonna be the square side for sure, Seahawks. I

480
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 3: agree with you.

481
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 4: I get what you're saying here, But this this feels

482
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 4: like another just like Monday night felt like a jack spot.

483
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 4: This feels like another jack spot. Like you just said,

484
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 4: those injuries, that's a big deal to that.

485
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I don't want to bet it yet.

486
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure I like Seattle if I can

487
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 1: get the injury news that I want, but if not,

488
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 1: it's not really a game that I feel comfortable betting.

489
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 3: The issue there is.

490
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 4: If that injury news comes out good, And I'm just

491
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,199
Speaker 4: gonna flip again because the public, like you just said,

492
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 4: they're gonna be with you.

493
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,159
Speaker 3: Anyone that went on the Jags last night, they're not

494
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 3: re betting this Jacks team.

495
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,639
Speaker 4: They're happily investing that money to the Seahawks because I

496
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,159
Speaker 4: think they feel the same way as Chad that you

497
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,919
Speaker 4: got away with one. In their minds, Seahawks are a

498
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 4: better team.

499
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 3: You know, even.

500
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:59,200
Speaker 4: Though there's some type of weird voodoo magic on all

501
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 4: this Jags team, I still don't think people are giving

502
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,400
Speaker 4: them enough credit for it. Where it's like that defense,

503
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,640
Speaker 4: there's turnovers. A lot of that is coaching, like him

504
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 4: putting these guys in the right positions them to make

505
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,120
Speaker 4: that play, like Lloyd cutting down on that.

506
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 3: Travis Kelsey that's tape, Yeah, that's.

507
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,120
Speaker 4: Him up at the line and then he knows you'r

508
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 4: Kelsey is and he's breaking left into it. And I

509
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 4: love that whole play because it's like just pure athleticism

510
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 4: and a guy that you know has come out.

511
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 3: Of nowhere here. That's really shocked throat and really taking

512
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:28,640
Speaker 3: the shack.

513
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 4: Defense to another level, because if you get turnovers like that,

514
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 4: which he keeps doing like we see, it wins these games.

515
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 4: We were dead in that game like that, Trevor Lard's

516
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 4: getting that ball smacked out at the one yard line.

517
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 4: When you're like Chad's running a dog like that against Mahomes,

518
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,880
Speaker 4: you're usually not coming back. We needed that pick six desperately.

519
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 4: So I get your hesitation from the Jacks here, but

520
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 4: that's gonna be the sharp side, like I know, when

521
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,120
Speaker 4: we get when I talk to people take calls this week,

522
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 4: that would be the side.

523
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 3: I'm with you.

524
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 4: I wanted to be on the Seahawks, especially when I

525
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,880
Speaker 4: saw this line like you said yesterday then was a dog.

526
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 4: I was like, oh my god, if the Jags get smoked,

527
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 4: this is gonna flip the minus two for the Seahawks team.

528
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 3: It hasn't.

529
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 4: It's been tons of money it's coming on the Seahawks,

530
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 4: but it's just held. I feel like you said, it

531
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,120
Speaker 4: did flip earlier. Now it's been back to this Jags team.

532
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,880
Speaker 4: So be careful people out there. This might be another

533
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 4: another week that this Jags are actually in a pretty

534
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 4: good spot and the Seahawks are just too banged up

535
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 4: one PM starting that that Florida sun. You don't want

536
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 4: your backups being worn out in the second half, having

537
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,959
Speaker 4: to think. That's again, that's what a problem with these

538
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 4: teams that go down to Florida. It's like, not the

539
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 4: first half, it's that second half where you're worn out

540
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 4: and you're having to react and think. It's just a

541
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 4: lot to ask of these backups are gonna be starting

542
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 4: in key positions for the Seahawks.

543
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,160
Speaker 2: Maybe that's Trevor Lawrence's problem at the heat.

544
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:49,880
Speaker 1: The heat and the heat and the thinking, all the

545
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 1: thinking is too it's too much for Trevor.

546
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 4: Now, we were joking before the show, like the Liam

547
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 4: come and punishing him not calling timeouts when he knows

548
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 4: the cloud going to zero.

549
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 3: And I love it.

550
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 4: It's like truly big brother, little brother, where they've had

551
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 4: obviously hundreds of conversations, yes about him watching the game

552
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 4: clock and he consistently keeps not doing it. And every

553
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 4: time you see it, he's next to the refto and

554
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 4: his arms are still cross.

555
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 3: Liam.

556
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,880
Speaker 4: It's like hilarious, You're just like he's doing this on purpose,

557
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 4: Like even though in these huge moments, he's still doing

558
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,360
Speaker 4: it on purpose felic. So I get your hesitation here,

559
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 4: But yeah, for for our show, I'm letting the people

560
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,199
Speaker 4: know it's it's gonna be the square side taking that

561
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:32,880
Speaker 4: Sea Ox side.

562
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 3: Just be careful with it.

563
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 4: It's that it's gonna be one of Like there's a

564
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 4: couple of public dogs this week.

565
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 3: That's one of gonna be one of the bigger public dogs.

566
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Well, look, you always get in trouble when

567
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,439
Speaker 1: you're betting on a game that's flipping back and forth

568
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 1: and you feel like you're so excited because you're getting

569
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 1: the team that you think is better as a as

570
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 1: a one and a half point underdog, and like I

571
00:27:55,640 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 1: like I said, Chad's disciplined. Okay, So Chad doesn't just reach.

572
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 1: He doesn't bet as soon as he sees something, thinking

573
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: he's got an angle. Chad waits to get the full

574
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 1: load of information. Chad's waiting to find out who's playing

575
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 1: on the Seattle Seahawks defense before he makes a bet.

576
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,919
Speaker 1: Chad's no, Trevor, Chad can think and bet or not

577
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:20,120
Speaker 1: bet at the same exact time.

578
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 3: We've hit our Chad Limit.

579
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 2: Chad wants to.

580
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: Talk about the Cleveland Browns at the Pittsburgh Steelers. Steelers

581
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,880
Speaker 1: are five point favorites. I'm a little surprised this one

582
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 1: has moved since Sunday night in the Steelers direction. It

583
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: went from four and a half to five and a

584
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 1: half and then finally found some pushback. My first instinct

585
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 1: was that the Browns were the side, especially against Mike Tomlin,

586
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 1: who as a short home favorite we've just historically won.

587
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: You bet Mike Tomlin, Robert Mike Tomlins a dog on

588
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: the road, You fade Mike Tomlin at home. The on

589
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 1: the field situation might be too favorable for the Steelers

590
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 1: to ignore.

591
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 2: They've had two weeks to get healthy.

592
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 1: Joey Porter's coming back, Jalen Warren's coming back, Alex high

593
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 1: Smith probably coming back. I do think he's a He's

594
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 1: a pivot point for the Steelers defensively, like they are

595
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: a much much better team when he's playing. I don't

596
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 1: love Dylan Gabriel in his first official road game against

597
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 1: the Steelers.

598
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 2: Interesting spot, I can see. I can see why the

599
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 2: number shot up a little bit more than I could

600
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 2: on Sunday.

601
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, it feels like, it's my laziest bet of the week.

602
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,239
Speaker 4: But I talk a little bit on Sunday. Now you're

603
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 4: not on Pittsburgh. Here you have Cleveland. He's coming off.

604
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 4: This is a third straight road game, and it's like

605
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 4: nightmare scenario. They third straight road game while playing really

606
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 4: tough teams, right Detroit Vikings, now Pittsburgh team that's like

607
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 4: Chad chat coming off and extended rest bye week. It's

608
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 4: like just brutal for the Browns. And you know, I like,

609
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 4: like I said, I like I moved to Dylan Gabriel.

610
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,239
Speaker 4: At the same time, it's another just bad spot for him.

611
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 4: I know there are no good spots. You just got

612
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 4: to play the games you're gonna play as a rookie quarterback.

613
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 4: But like you said, really tough coming into this game

614
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 4: against the Pittsburgh defense that should.

615
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 3: Have a lot of guys back. So if you're Pittsburgh,

616
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 3: this is a get right spot. You know.

617
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 4: The only thing we can really do, like we always

618
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 4: do with Cleveland, is well they got that D line

619
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 4: matches against the Pittsburgh questionable O line against a quarterback

620
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 4: that folds quick like he does not want to take

621
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 4: any type of hit. If there's any type of chance.

622
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 4: He just falls down, which is the right move in

623
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 4: my opinion for Rogers. That's live for the next play,

624
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 4: Like that's what he should be doing. I can't lie

625
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 4: to myself, even my model couldn't lie to me, tell

626
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 4: me to take Cleveland here. So unfortunately, yeah, it's I'm

627
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 4: on more chalk. I want to be on it because

628
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 4: there are still some fives out there for Cleveland, even

629
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 4: though hard Rock's at four for the Steelers. So if

630
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 4: you do like Cleveland, you can join the pros and

631
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 4: find that line up there. But so on the other side,

632
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 4: I feel like the public is right. I feel like

633
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 4: the Steelers are right and once again very very lazy,

634
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 4: it feels like of me. But the rest disparity has

635
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 4: to be a factor here. That has to matter. Yes,

636
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 4: like these this ain't week two. This is you're deep

637
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 4: into the season now week six. The guys have been

638
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 4: through it, right, We joke every time that, but it's

639
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 4: real Sundays are you're going through car crashes like you're

640
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 4: literally what these people put their bodies through is insane.

641
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 4: And you can't make enough about how big of a

642
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 4: deal it is to be on three straight road games

643
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 4: and then go for international coming back to play this

644
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 4: Pittsburgh team. So yeah, again, Chalky bet, but I'll take

645
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 4: that Steelers minus four.

646
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, it became more clear in the light of day

647
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: that the Steelers felt like the right side. I'm glad

648
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 1: we're getting a little bit of a lower number.

649
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 2: Now.

650
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: I'm curious to see what Sharp Calls will say on Thursday,

651
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: but we are in agreement.

652
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 2: It's feeling very Chalky. It's feeling a little bit like

653
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago where we liked a lot

654
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 2: of the favorites La Rams.

655
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: By the way, you said your model can't lie to you.

656
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 1: What do you have this model.

657
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 4: That right way it opened, So I had it at

658
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 4: five and a half, and obviously it's come down from there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like you said, it's.

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Speaker 4: The professional the professional money's coming on this Cleveland team.

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Speaker 1: The Los Angeles Rams are visiting the Baltimore Ravens. Baltimore

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Speaker 1: Ravens are seven and a half point underdogs. I mean,

663
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Speaker 1: this team, it's so hard to handicap this game because

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Speaker 1: you'd of course want to play the Ravens, but dogs

665
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: after a blowout. Historically the right side the line will

666
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 1: be so much higher than it should be.

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00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 2: But but.

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00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: Is Kyle Hamilton gonna play? Is Rokwan Smith gonna play?

669
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Speaker 1: Is Marlin Humphrey gonna play?

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Speaker 2: Like that's as.

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Speaker 1: Big a reason why the Ravens got blown out this

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Speaker 1: past Sunday as Lamar Jackson not playing.

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Speaker 2: How do you even model this one?

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00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 4: It's honestly impossible because it's everything's gonna favorite this Rams team,

675
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 4: especially from the viewpoint of like you said, we don't

676
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 4: know who's playing for this team, Like I'm trying to

677
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 4: find it right now.

678
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Speaker 3: Almost positive. I had a text from a guy who

679
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 3: works for the Ravens where they basically view it as.

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Speaker 4: They know how bad it is there right now, but

681
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 4: they're in a fortunate spot with this after this game,

682
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Speaker 4: I believe they're following weeks a bye week, and they're

683
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 4: viewing it as like, okay, if they can get all

684
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 4: these guys back after that, it is okay.

685
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Speaker 3: So I did get that email.

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Speaker 4: So they just view it as if these they're not

687
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 4: going to rush these guys back, right you just talked

688
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 4: about they're all pros. This isn't just guys are trying

689
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 4: to get back. These are like the cream of the crop,

690
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 4: the best players in their entire team. Maybe they forced

691
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 4: their way back for this game, but without Lamar feels

692
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 4: like a lost hope, right, Like you just saw that

693
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 4: offense had no rhythm, no function, just tons of three

694
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Speaker 4: and outs. Houston's a really good defense, obviously better arguably

695
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 4: than this Rams team, But you get this Rams game,

696
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 4: you lose it.

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Speaker 3: You have your buy in week seven and then you basically.

698
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 4: Have Bears, Miami, Minnesota, Cleveland, the Jets, Cincy. So it's like,

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Speaker 4: to me, it's like you just when that guy said that,

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00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,280
Speaker 4: I was like, Okay, that makes sense.

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Speaker 3: That's the view of the front office. What will the

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00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 3: coaches do?

703
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 4: Will they protect their players and hold them back because

704
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,800
Speaker 4: it is a lot to ask a guy a pro

705
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 4: to rest to get right, and not because these guys

706
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Speaker 4: do want to play even at seventy percent. They're just

707
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 4: that's what makes them the best. They are just these

708
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 4: freak athletes that they want to play. And that really

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00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 4: jumped out to me. So another game just like Denver

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Speaker 4: where all I'll probably be a little bit of a coward,

711
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 4: just take the money line, I guess, and avoid the number.

712
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 4: Because we've seen this RAMS team historically not really blow

713
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 4: teams out. They're just not like we joked earlier in

714
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 4: the year they blew out Tennessee. It was the first

715
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 4: time McVeigh and Stafford had to actually like beat a

716
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 4: team by double digits on the road. So they're just

717
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 4: not a team that really does that. So it's another

718
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 4: incredibly public side like me and Chad No, right, this

719
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 4: is gonna be all all charge all rams, I should

720
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 4: same money. So yeah, I'll end up having this in

721
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 4: a teaser or something. But this is another game where

722
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Speaker 4: I it's hard to have a strong take on it,

723
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Speaker 4: where it's like, obviously we want to be on the

724
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Speaker 4: Ravens bounce back spot, YadA, YadA, YadA. I just think

725
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Speaker 4: they're thinking bye week and that schedule coming up where

726
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,800
Speaker 4: there's a reason I think they're still favored in this division,

727
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 4: Like they're just the books know what they have upcoming

728
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 4: and that this is gonna break right for this Ravens

729
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:52,800
Speaker 4: team if they can get a little more back and

730
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 4: get those guys back. So yeah, I'll if you want

731
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Speaker 4: to bet their division odds, I keep being patient.

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Speaker 3: I think they'll lose this one.

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Speaker 4: You might be able to get even better odds after

734
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,280
Speaker 4: Pittsburgh wins and they get another big lead in this division.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there have been a lot of reports out there

736
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Speaker 1: that the Ravens are thinking about what you're talking about

737
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Speaker 3: One.

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Speaker 4: Right, if you wouldn't at it like the literally the

744
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Speaker 2: Right, they got No. One and they got No. One.

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Speaker 1: And two years ago the AFC North had four teams

747
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Speaker 2: We're gonna replay that for you, but.

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Speaker 4: I'm legit dead inside. This is going to be a

788
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Speaker 4: painful podcast. Can't believe what I just watched that Cardinals game.

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Speaker 3: I don't even know if I can. I don't know

790
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Speaker 3: if I can talk.

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00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 4: About it yet, because it's just ridiculous. There running back

792
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 4: for the Cardinals. You dropped the ball into the end

793
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,920
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794
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 4: they basically picked off game ward and made a football

795
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Speaker 4: move and filled the ball and they recovered a or

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00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 4: a touchdown. Tennessee twenty one to six. They're gonna score

797
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 4: that touchdown. So I've been twenty eight to six with

798
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Speaker 4: like ten minutes to go.

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Speaker 3: Kyler.

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Speaker 4: Mary's a loser, Gannon's a loser. That's a loser organization,

801
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 4: Cardinal fans. I feel so bad for you guys. Just losers,

802
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 4: top to top to bottom. Embarrassing organization, My god, just losers, Cardinals, losers.

803
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:26,320
Speaker 3: Kyler.

804
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 4: I would literally re release him today. Just guy puts

805
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 4: up twenty one points and then just looks disinterested for

806
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Speaker 4: a whole second half.

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00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 3: He's just the worst. They're just the worst.

808
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 4: So yeah, fold don't exist anymore.

809
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 3: Tomorrow.

810
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,280
Speaker 4: I by wake up tomorrow and they said, yeap thirty

811
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Speaker 4: one teams NFL Arizona literally folded overnight.

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00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 3: Good, let it be done.

813
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: The New York Jets were plus two and a half

814
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: against the Dallas Cowboys. It was astonishing how pathetic they are.

815
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean not as pathetic as Michael bid Well,

816
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,800
Speaker 4: the principal owner of the Arizona Cardinals.

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00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 3: Just fold, buddy. If you hear this fold up shop,

818
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 3: it's over.

819
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 2: Listen.

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Speaker 1: The Arizona Cardinals are plus five and a half at

821
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 1: Indianapolis next week. We know Kyler is great when he's

822
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 1: on the road.

823
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 4: Too soon, yeah, I mean that line will be taken down.

824
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 4: The Colts are lucky. They have a bye week now

825
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 4: because Cardinals won't exist, so it doesn't matter.

826
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Speaker 1: We do have some people basically feeling the same way

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Speaker 1: as you.

828
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 2: Bigness wants to know.

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00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 1: Should we make the Cardinals stay in the field so

830
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 1: everyone can throw trash at them until they get too

831
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: tired to continue.

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00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 3: No, it's too nice.

833
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 4: You gotta get We should get her about there, make

834
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 4: him skape from blue line to blue line, and they

835
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 4: keep asking them what team they play for. There's bitches

836
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 4: bring out bringing the ice. Sick of them all right.

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00:40:54,800 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 2: Simon, I know I know who your shame on you

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Speaker 2: you is.

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Speaker 4: I'll just be quick Arizona shame and felt officiating in

840
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 4: that game.

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00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:10,280
Speaker 3: Shame, just the whole thing. It's shame, shame, shame.

842
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 2: I'm going to give you a chance to find some

843
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 2: joy in the week.

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Speaker 3: My ear of the day will be my mother. Today's

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00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 3: your birthday. Come on, love your mom. Shout out to

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Speaker 3: all the moms.

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00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 2: Ah, that's beautiful, that's nice to you.

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Speaker 1: I'm You're never born, Simon, any regrets from the rant

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Speaker 1: on Sunday night, zero.

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00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 2: Sunday night.

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00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 1: You did muster the strength to say that you were

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00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 1: leaning into indie.

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00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 2: At five at hard Rock.

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00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 1: There was a four and a half available, it's now

855
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: jumped up to six. I think the true line should

856
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 1: be Cult seven.

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00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 3: It's fair.

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00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Lion's probably still value on this team, but

859
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 4: it's just going to be what in every parlay, every

860
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 4: teaser who is betting Arizona after last week?

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00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 3: Nobody?

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00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 4: So if you like Arizona, you can be patient. I'm

863
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 4: seeing six and a half s roady pop, so I

864
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,240
Speaker 4: think your estimate's right, probably should be seven.

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Speaker 3: We'll probably get there eventually. But yeah, no read on it.

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00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 3: For me. To me, it was a Colts line.

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00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,280
Speaker 4: It was a good bet, good number there, once again

868
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 4: opening the line undervalued this Colts team. I mean, it

869
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,439
Speaker 4: feels like every week this year it's been that way.

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00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 4: So it's gonna go the other way for this Colds team, right.

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00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 4: They can't keep playing it such this, this offense can't

872
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,439
Speaker 4: keep functioning such a high level candidate. So that's that's

873
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,280
Speaker 4: the only fear of my mind I'm picking this Cold side,

874
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 4: is that when is that game gonna be Daniel Jones

875
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 4: tried to do it against the Rams. He tried to

876
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 4: throw like three picks and the Rams just gonna catch it,

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00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 4: And that game he still should have won by a touchdown,

878
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 4: if not more so. Yeah, this Colts team just might

879
00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 4: be juggernaut. I'm surely not for saying in front of it.

880
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 4: Back in this Arizona team in no world. So I'll

881
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 4: join you on the six. We'll see what they end

882
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 4: up with the contest line. But five and a half

883
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 4: conversation can be had. Six and a half I probably

884
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 4: would pass.

885
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 1: I don't think Daniel Jones is Everyone talks about him,

886
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: and everyone's like, oh, Daniel Jones MVP, blah blah blah.

887
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: This is about Jonathan Taylor. Like he's leaving the league

888
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: in rushing, which is great, He's also leaves the league

889
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 1: in rushing yards after contact. He just making hard for

890
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 1: defenses to get off the field. And to me, that's

891
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 1: always These are big guys, his offensive line, and like

892
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 1: they've built a line and a system that allows him

893
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: to thrive and makes this offense so good right now.

894
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: It's making Daniel Jones look better but also helps minimize

895
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 1: the opportunities for mistakes from Daniel Jones. That's really why

896
00:43:58,000 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 1: I like the Colts. Like I don't like him at

897
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: six and a half, I bet him at four and

898
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:05,720
Speaker 1: a half. On Sunday, but I don't hate him at five.

899
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 3: And a half.

900
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 2: If the line sort of solidifies.

901
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 3: For us, I'd be shocked and it comes down.

902
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 4: I just I don't know what professionals put in heavy

903
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,280
Speaker 4: money is Arizona, even though it is probably the right side,

904
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 4: it's like that everything it's all dysfunctional. They had like

905
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 4: a team meeting because the coach is punching guys on

906
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 4: the sideline and it's just.

907
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,760
Speaker 1: And then he's apologizing in a press conferences.

908
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 4: It's just it's the low of lows, and it's like,

909
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 4: all right, if they had a leader at the head

910
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 4: coach or at the quarterback, maybe you back in, believe

911
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 4: in it. But I just don't believe in either of

912
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 4: those guys.

913
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 1: Right now, New England at the New Orleans Saints. The

914
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 1: Saints are three and a half point underdogs. Look, the

915
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: Saints had a great comeback and against the Giants, so

916
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 1: people love the Saints right now. The Patriots had a

917
00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 1: huge win against the Buffalo Bills in prime time, so

918
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: everyone's loving Drake May right now.

919
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:04,919
Speaker 2: I got an opinion on this game.

920
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 4: Interesting I do too, Chad, give me them Saints plus

921
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 4: three and a half.

922
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 3: Simon says, Oh boy, call me Simon. What do you want?

923
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,439
Speaker 2: I want to play a game? What kind of game

924
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 2: Simon says.

925
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 1: Simon says, presented by hard Rock that the Saints plus

926
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: three and a half.

927
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 2: Give me your explanation, pretty simple.

928
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 3: The general public, the squares will be.

929
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 4: Loving this Patriots team, and they love it so much

930
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 4: they've already bumped it.

931
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 3: This was three. They bumped it a three and a half.

932
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 4: I'll take that value on an undervalued Saints team that

933
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 4: will be undervalued every week.

934
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:56,760
Speaker 3: That's just the way it is, especially.

935
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 4: Against a team that you know, won a game that,

936
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 4: let's be honest, they had no right winning. He probably

937
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 4: you could even argue covering like It's just so many

938
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,280
Speaker 4: things with their way. And that's why I felt Rabel

939
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 4: was such a great hire for them, because that, to me,

940
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 4: was a Rabel win, like the the way the defense plays,

941
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 4: the you know, Drake may had some huge, big time throws,

942
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 4: but it was also you know a game that that

943
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 4: was to me, that was the worst game that Boscup

944
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 4: possibly played like that, between the turnovers, the penalties, all

945
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 4: of it. They just I would burn those jerseys and

946
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 4: never wear them again. Those things just felt cursed.

947
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 3: Whatever it was it felt, I don't again, I don't know.

948
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 4: It just felt like the ball was super slippery to

949
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 4: them on that jersey and whatever it is. I know

950
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 4: it's super conspiracy, but I would I would not be

951
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 4: wearing those again. They do look cool, but you're getting

952
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 4: a highly overvalued New England team. I mean the victory

953
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 4: lapse guys are taking right now on Drake. Oh yeah,

954
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 4: Drake made a top ten.

955
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:04,760
Speaker 2: Quarterback MVP MVP level.

956
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 4: So these guys are all going to retire because they

957
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 4: can still get this morning. You can still get plus

958
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 4: three point fifty on New England to win that division.

959
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 4: So all of you guys, I'm happy for You're all

960
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 4: going to retire to your nantucket and.

961
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 3: Good for you.

962
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 4: So yeah, it's it's the it's peak right now for

963
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 4: this this team in New England.

964
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 3: It's not a great match for them.

965
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 4: Honestly, Like this Saints team we talked about it, I

966
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 4: think their defense is better than people perceived. They have

967
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 4: a lot of veterans offensively, I believe they found it

968
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 4: identity and you can attack this Patriots defense like this

969
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 4: Patriot's defense is not good. We've seen that this year

970
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 4: that you know, they to me have been fortunate. Like

971
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,399
Speaker 4: the Saints are not a good team, right, so this

972
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 4: is another match up you expect for able to be

973
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 4: a big advantage here, But to me, it's on the

974
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 4: road in a spot where this Saints team, I don't

975
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 4: think they're going to get too high from that vet

976
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 4: that last win. Like I said, they're a veteran team

977
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 4: that's believed themselves. They've been really good at home this season,

978
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 4: which was another reason I like backing them against that

979
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 4: Giants team. And at the end of the day, I

980
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,720
Speaker 4: think this is going to be another square, very sharp,

981
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 4: like it's going to be the squares are going to

982
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 4: be on New England.

983
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 3: It's gonna be the public side.

984
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,240
Speaker 4: Like you already can see the numbers, all the money,

985
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 4: all the tickets have come in on this New England side.

986
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 4: Some books have even touched for but it immediately got

987
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 4: bet down by the professionals.

988
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:31,399
Speaker 3: So I'd be shocked if this sits at three.

989
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 4: I think we could see movement going in that this

990
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 4: could drop the three once more professional money comes in,

991
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 4: because like I said, I think more guys are just

992
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 4: in their mouths. The Spencer Rattler's he's better than I

993
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 4: certainly had him great at coming to the season. He's

994
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 4: improved every week. And yeah, like I said that that

995
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 4: Giants game, should they have won twenty six to fourteen. Now,

996
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 4: they shouldn't have blown them out. But it's nice to

997
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 4: see the public's not overreacting to that. They're overacting to

998
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 4: that Patriots win and drinking the Drake maykool it.

999
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 3: So this would be a statement win.

1000
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 4: Honestly, once again, this Patriots team, if they can show

1001
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 4: me they're mature enough to handle a big win on

1002
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 4: Sunday night and go on the road on a short

1003
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:11,919
Speaker 4: week now because they did play you know, they're game

1004
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 4: in at what eleven thirty midnight Sunday night. That's a

1005
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 4: tough short week travel to go play the Saints team.

1006
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's just about the number.

1007
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 4: If this was two and a half, I'd have no

1008
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 4: issue being okay with this Patriot side.

1009
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:26,439
Speaker 3: But once again, another game.

1010
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 4: I have a minus one on the Saints, So so

1011
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 4: if I have it off by four and a half,

1012
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 4: I gotta make it. Silence says, I can't avoid it.

1013
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 4: I hate it. I'm all in once again, twos in

1014
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 4: around the Saints team. But it's just playing the numbers.

1015
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 4: It's a good number on an undervalued Saints team that

1016
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 4: I just don't think the publics.

1017
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 3: Come around on them yet.

1018
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 4: So I'm getting a good number here just because the

1019
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 4: Patriots love is it's peak right now.

1020
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 3: It's it's insane, the stuff I've been seeing.

1021
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 2: I wonder you could look at.

1022
00:49:53,840 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: It as the Saints being and the Patriots defense actually

1023
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 1: being undervalued, because don't forget, they played the first what

1024
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 1: was it four games without Christian Gonzales, who made multiple

1025
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:19,320
Speaker 1: key plays in that defensive backfield for the Patriots against

1026
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 1: the Bills. The Patriots top eight in EPA per play,

1027
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: top eight in EPA per pass success rate, Saints defense

1028
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 1: bottom seven in the league in.

1029
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,800
Speaker 2: All of those categories.

1030
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 1: The line actually did get down to two and a

1031
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 1: half on Sunday night and then got that backup immediately

1032
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 1: even before the Patriots won. So there was some I

1033
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 1: think sharp sentiment on the Patriots at the two and

1034
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 1: a half.

1035
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 3: And.

1036
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 2: I think Christian Christian Christian Gonzales in the backfield is

1037
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:58,879
Speaker 2: a bit of a difference maker here.

1038
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:02,359
Speaker 3: So what are you trying to say, Chad? Do you

1039
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 3: like the Saints?

1040
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 4: You haven't said exactly what you're trying to say, stop

1041
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 4: talking around it.

1042
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 3: Give us a pick here.

1043
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 2: I like the Patriots good.

1044
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 3: It's a good spot, hopefully square.

1045
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 1: By the way, you seem like you're just you're so

1046
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 1: mad about something today.

1047
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 2: Why are you in such a bad mood?

1048
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 3: Bad mood?

1049
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 4: But did you keep saying lean those are a me

1050
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 4: being in a mad mood. It's just me saying you're

1051
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 4: on a pick show, give out picks.

1052
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 2: I'm saying, I'm giving an opinion right now. In my

1053
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:29,879
Speaker 2: opinion is you're being a dick.

1054
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:31,439
Speaker 3: This is me being nice.

1055
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:33,359
Speaker 4: So you want to be a dick, I would say

1056
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,760
Speaker 4: you're a square square being on the Patriots here and okay,

1057
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 4: I get it.

1058
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 3: You're drinking the drake may kool aid.

1059
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 2: I'm not drinking the drink. I'm not drinking the drake

1060
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 2: may kool aid.

1061
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 1: I'm actually thinking, I don't think the Saints are as

1062
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 1: good as everyone thinks they are because they beat up

1063
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:48,240
Speaker 1: on the Giants.

1064
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 2: You do you do? You keep saying their defense is

1065
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 2: so much better.

1066
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:53,879
Speaker 4: Imber say you said people love the Saints right now,

1067
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 4: It's like, dude, they're getting nineteen percent of the bets.

1068
00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 3: Who loves the Saints? Well, you do above saying it's

1069
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 3: a small group.

1070
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 2: Well, we're going to agree to disagree.

1071
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 1: Tennessee at Las Vegas, Las Vegas Raiders minus four and

1072
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:17,800
Speaker 1: a half. The main question is is brock Bauer is

1073
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 1: playing in this game? Because to me, Chad's choice is

1074
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 1: the Las Vegas Raiders.

1075
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:30,839
Speaker 3: Wow, are you sure you want to do this? Are

1076
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:34,240
Speaker 3: you willing to make a choice? That choice? We can't

1077
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 3: run from a We are sharp dues and just see it.

1078
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

1079
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 2: We're changing the name.

1080
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 1: It used to be Chad's Love starting now we're calling

1081
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 1: it Chad's.

1082
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 2: Choice the Las Vegas Raiders.

1083
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 1: Look, they're coming off a blowout, lowest of the low.

1084
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: The entire world is questioning Gino. I'm getting Pete Carroll

1085
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 1: Againstran Callahan, I'm getting the Raiders at home where they're

1086
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 1: going to be more comfortable. I'm getting Tennessee thinking, oh

1087
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 1: my god, we actually escaped and got to win third

1088
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 1: straight road game for a team that is won and

1089
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 1: covered Killer Sports thirty three sixty eight and three against

1090
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:29,359
Speaker 1: the spread. Give me the Las Vegas Raiders minus four

1091
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:29,800
Speaker 1: and a half.

1092
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:33,800
Speaker 4: Chad, this is the greatest bet ever. You're the smartest

1093
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 4: person I've ever met?

1094
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:36,880
Speaker 2: What do you really think, Simon?

1095
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 4: I don't know, Like, yeah, I'll join you because it

1096
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:43,840
Speaker 4: probably is the right thought. We should be on the

1097
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 4: Raiders here, but we're going to be miserable. Gino Smith

1098
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 4: is a train wreck right now.

1099
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 3: I can't get.

1100
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:49,760
Speaker 2: Around He's a train wreck.

1101
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 3: The number feels priced right like.

1102
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 4: It should have come down because it's like who who is?

1103
00:53:58,160 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 2: Well it has come down.

1104
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:00,919
Speaker 1: It was five and a half, went down to five

1105
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 1: and is now at four and a half, which is

1106
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 1: why I'm betting it.

1107
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:07,800
Speaker 3: It's like, I agree with that movie, so I've shot.

1108
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 4: You want to be invested in this can? This is

1109
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:12,840
Speaker 4: gonna be on our TV possibly comes Sunday. I was

1110
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 4: hoping to just to avoid it. It's like, because my

1111
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 4: instinct is what exactly what Chad's doing here? It's like

1112
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 4: this Raiders team, this feels like rock bottom And yeah,

1113
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 4: you're selling a Tennessee team that is the luckiest team

1114
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:27,879
Speaker 4: in football, So I get it where you're coming from.

1115
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:30,800
Speaker 4: I don't hate the bet. I'm just so terrified of

1116
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 4: it's so gross.

1117
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 1: That's why we do it. Sometimes you got to do

1118
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 1: gross things when you're betting. I don't know if you're

1119
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 1: familiar with that, Simon, you do Las Vegas Raiders minus

1120
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 1: four and a half. San Francisco at Tampa Bay. Tampa

1121
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: Bay is a three point favorite. Actually moved down to three,

1122
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:51,879
Speaker 1: went back, went moved down to two and a half,

1123
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 1: went back up to three. You like Tampa Bay on

1124
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 1: Sunday Night. You've been hammering the Bucks all season to success.

1125
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 2: Luckily, I think we don't know.

1126
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 1: About Purdy, We don't know about Piersol, we don't know

1127
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 1: about Jennings yet.

1128
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, we do know Bosa.

1129
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:10,799
Speaker 1: Was out for the Niners on Thursday night and that

1130
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 1: their pressures dropped to the lowest they've had since the

1131
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 1: first game of the twenty twenty four season. So whatever

1132
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:21,799
Speaker 1: they thought they might be able to figure out, and

1133
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:25,840
Speaker 1: whatever we were betting on, whatever anyone was betting on

1134
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 1: with Robert Sala, it just didn't happen because they have

1135
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 1: not been able to get any pressure without Bosa. Do

1136
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 1: you still feel strongly by the tenth Bay Buccaneers. This

1137
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:43,360
Speaker 1: essentially is saying, Okay, the Bucks are going to do

1138
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:46,919
Speaker 1: what they've done four other times this year and win

1139
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 1: a game in the final seconds.

1140
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 3: Yeah right. It's just crazy to me.

1141
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 4: The professional early money just they really liked the forty

1142
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 4: nine ers side, so it's another game. I'm just worried

1143
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 4: on missing something. Like you said, I've just been too

1144
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 4: high on the Bucks all season and it's been working

1145
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 4: out for me. But you know, you saw in that

1146
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 4: Eagles game it can go sideways, and I guess that's

1147
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 4: what they're thinking here, that this defense, this might be

1148
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 4: a good matchup for the forty niners to get right.

1149
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 4: But it's like, still feels like the forty nines are

1150
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 4: very banged up. They're coming off a very high emotional

1151
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 4: divisional win. Should have rested right, getting guys healthy, getting

1152
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 4: them back. But it's like, I don't know, there's something

1153
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 4: about Baker and this team and this number. It's like

1154
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 4: you're giving me the three. That's the fear here. It's like,

1155
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 4: if this is mine, I don't know, it sounds stupid,

1156
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 4: but if this is minus three and a half, I

1157
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:34,879
Speaker 4: honestly would be more confident on this book side because

1158
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 4: it's like, that's a forty nine ers line. That to

1159
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 4: me would have been everybody would I'm piling and on

1160
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:43,800
Speaker 4: that forty nine ers side, and that would have showed

1161
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 4: me that, Okay, this Bucks team is as good as

1162
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 4: I think they are, and I'm greating them as but

1163
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 4: right now I think I might be a little overrating them,

1164
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 4: and I'm just gonna be patient here.

1165
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 3: I bet the Bucks took to two and a half.

1166
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 4: I'd still take the three off chance that party does

1167
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 4: miss again. And you have mac own two. I mean

1168
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 4: he was working on one leg at the end of

1169
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 4: that game. Yeah, not a great ideal spot for him

1170
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:10,320
Speaker 4: against a defensive front that they have there in the Bucks.

1171
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 3: So interesting game like this is a couple of good

1172
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 3: games this week.

1173
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 4: Obviously a lot of stinkers, but this is probably one

1174
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 4: of the top two three games this week. You know,

1175
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 4: both these guys are four and one, like pretty insane.

1176
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 4: What the Forigniners have be able to do with all

1177
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 4: the injuries they've sustained. And the question is what am

1178
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 4: I missing here? Because doesn't this feel like a letdown

1179
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 4: spot for this four Nighters team? So I'm shocked to

1180
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 4: see so much professional money in love for this foreig

1181
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 4: nine ers team without knowing, Like you Chet said, if

1182
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 4: Perty's gonna play, if Jenny's is gonna play, if Ricky

1183
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 4: Pearsall is gonna play, Like those are big, big names,

1184
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 4: that's that's interesting. This line's moved the way it does well.

1185
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 1: That to me is basically everyone's saying they're not buying

1186
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 1: the Bucks. Yeah, and we've seen it every single week.

1187
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 1: People have been betting against the Bucks because how do

1188
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 1: you keep betting on a team that keeps winning literally.

1189
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 2: In the last second of the game.

1190
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 1: You just have to assume that the tide is going

1191
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 1: to turn and that everything that has been happening there's

1192
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 1: going to be regression. So people it's like betting the Jets,

1193
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 1: like it can't be as bad for the Bucks, it

1194
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 1: can't be as good, So that's what everyone is betting against.

1195
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 1: I totally get why people wouldn't want to be piling

1196
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 1: onto the bus and why they would be betting the

1197
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 1: Niners no matter who they think is playing, or they

1198
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 1: just think that brock Purdy is going to play again

1199
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 1: because he did play the week before, sat out because

1200
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 1: there was soreness.

1201
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 2: They're being extra cautious.

1202
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 1: They were giving him sort of the time because they

1203
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 1: had the whole team had the opportunity to get some

1204
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 1: extra rest. Kind of makes sense to me. I just

1205
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 1: want to know who the hell I'm betting on now?

1206
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 1: Am I betting on brock purity. Am I betting on.

1207
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 2: Mac Jones's fair? Simon?

1208
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 1: The Cincinnati Bengals are visiting the Green Bay Packers and

1209
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 1: the spread is fourteen points. You have been begging me

1210
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 1: to fade the Bengals. They are going against a wrested

1211
00:58:56,480 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 1: Packer teams that has played to really bad games. You

1212
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 1: think you're mean. Matt Lafleur gets such a good angry face.

1213
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 1: The guy is so competitive that when reporters asked him

1214
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 1: about facing his brother Mike, who is the offensive coordinator

1215
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 1: for the Rams a couple of years ago, and they said,

1216
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 1: who do you think your.

1217
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 2: Parents are going to be rooting for? Matt Lufloor didn't

1218
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 2: sort of swatt it away smile, ha ha ha.

1219
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 1: You know He's like, they're going to be rooting for

1220
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 1: the guy that bought them a house, and that's me.

1221
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur's teams have stunked the past two weeks. They've

1222
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 1: had a chance to get better over the past ten days.

1223
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:52,920
Speaker 1: They're playing a Bengals team that is horrific. The Packers

1224
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 1: have not been able to get their running game right.

1225
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:57,440
Speaker 1: They're playing a Bengals team that cannot stop the run.

1226
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 1: Since two thousand and four. You're gonna love this. Favorites

1227
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 1: of more than twelve points in their first five games

1228
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 1: of the season forty three, twenty two and one against

1229
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 1: the spread.

1230
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 3: Love it. Yeah.

1231
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 4: I don't disagree with before either, though. I mean, facts,

1232
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 4: I guess can be mean, but that just sounds like

1233
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 4: a fact to me. I don't know if he was

1234
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 4: being mean.

1235
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 1: By the way, to be clear, I'm on the packers here.

1236
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:34,440
Speaker 1: If I'm not being clear enough for you, if you're

1237
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 1: afraid I'm only giving a lean, I'm saying I'm on

1238
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:38,919
Speaker 1: the packers here.

1239
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 3: There, you're getting the show. Now.

1240
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 4: You say the team and then you give out the number.

1241
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 4: It's pretty simple.

1242
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 3: Green Bay.

1243
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:47,440
Speaker 4: I don't know Chad were really doing it. It's fourteen

1244
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 4: and a half.

1245
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 3: Nowt a bunch of books.

1246
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm sure the Bengals will eventually get stops

1247
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 4: and score touchdowns and not throw. I mean, at one point,

1248
01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 4: I thought someone posted this stat of like Chase had

1249
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 4: he might have had three tackles and three catches or

1250
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 4: something insane like that, like he was leading the team

1251
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 4: in catches and tackle.

1252
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 2: I saw that.

1253
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 3: Ye I can't believe it was real.

1254
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 2: I thought it was like a fake tweak.

1255
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, Brown into that bad, so I don't know,

1256
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 4: I feel bad for him. It's such a terrible spot

1257
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 4: for the Bengals. Like even last week, it felt like

1258
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 4: they're gonna steal get that back door, and the Lion

1259
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 4: just never let up.

1260
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 3: They just kept putting on them.

1261
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 4: This Green Bay team is not that same team. But

1262
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 4: like she had just said it, they haven't looked good defensively,

1263
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 4: I should say, in these last couple of weeks, so

1264
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 4: you would see this being a really big bounce back

1265
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 4: day for their defense.

1266
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 3: And offensively, you just how do they not move the

1267
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 3: ball at will?

1268
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 4: Like Lafleur schemes it up so well Gunn's good defense,

1269
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 4: let alone a terrible defense that looks like they've already

1270
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 4: packed their backs for the season. So even more bizarre,

1271
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 4: this team is still favorite to win the division over

1272
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:56,440
Speaker 4: at Cleveland, which I just think is really funny by

1273
01:01:56,520 --> 01:02:01,920
Speaker 4: the sportsbooks, just how much they hate Cleveland. Uh, but yeah,

1274
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 4: I'm with you, like, I don't know if we'll get

1275
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 4: there in our contest, So it's a weird game to

1276
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 4: even talk about or like, like, but like I feel

1277
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 4: like you're on the same page as me, Like you

1278
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 4: just have to bet these big numbers against the Sincy

1279
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 4: team until they show you something at least two three

1280
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 4: weeks in a row. So we're not even a week

1281
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 4: one yet we're like being scared of betting against the Bengals.

1282
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna keep rolling with it.

1283
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 4: The number can't get big enough, but the books are

1284
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 4: pushing it like this is insane, being at fourteen and

1285
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:29,480
Speaker 4: a half at a lot of books, fourteen at hard Rock,

1286
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:33,440
Speaker 4: that's pretty shocking, but again it feels warranted. That's how

1287
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:35,000
Speaker 4: bad this Bengals team has looked this year.

1288
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 1: What's weird to me is why are we so comfortable

1289
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 1: betting against the Bengals, But we have been afraid to

1290
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 1: bet against the Titans in the exact same position in

1291
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:49,640
Speaker 1: big numbers, like a team that we know isn't very good.

1292
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 1: The Bengals, we have no problem the Titans like for

1293
01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 1: a season plus. Yeah, we've been afraid to do it

1294
01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 1: except for this week when it's Jad's choice.

1295
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:01,480
Speaker 3: Yeah it's tough.

1296
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:05,959
Speaker 1: It's time for our primetime spotlight. Simon what what time

1297
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:07,640
Speaker 1: of prime time?

1298
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 3: What timing?

1299
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 2: It's prime time, tan up out time.

1300
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 1: We know everyone's gonna bet the Sunday Night Football game,

1301
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:21,960
Speaker 1: the Monday night football games, they're the island games. They're

1302
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:24,920
Speaker 1: the catnip. Even if we don't put them in the contest,

1303
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:27,280
Speaker 1: they call out to all of us. You want to

1304
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 1: bet them, We want to help you. We're going to

1305
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:33,480
Speaker 1: talk about them right now. Detroit at Kansas City. Kansas

1306
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 1: City is a two point favorite Sunday Night football. This

1307
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 1: numbers move, this numbers move from one and a half

1308
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 1: to two since the Jags beat the Chiefs last night.

1309
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 1: Here's my honest question for you. Do you believe everything

1310
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:50,400
Speaker 1: is back to form with the Chiefs and the Lions,

1311
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:53,160
Speaker 1: meaning Kansas City is the team that can score it will.

1312
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 1: The offense is rolling, the defense is rounding in a

1313
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 1: form they're going to be one of the top t

1314
01:03:57,480 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 1: three teams in the AFC. Do you be the line

1315
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:02,040
Speaker 1: have picked it up where they left off last year

1316
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 1: and that Week one game against the Packers was an aberration?

1317
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:08,040
Speaker 1: Is that where we think these two teams are right now?

1318
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a fair assessment.

1319
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 1: So I think we have a legit rock and hard

1320
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 1: plays here because Jared Goarff, and we'll talk about this

1321
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 1: throughout the week, he's a covering machine except when he's

1322
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 1: on the Road on Grass and the Holmes is a

1323
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 1: covering machine as a favorite of less than three, and

1324
01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 1: then I.

1325
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 3: Said, I hated it.

1326
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 4: I saw what was going to happen Sunday night, and

1327
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 4: I hate it where it's like me chat are going

1328
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 4: to have to be in the Chiefs, It's probably have

1329
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:38,800
Speaker 4: to be in our contest. And it's I know the

1330
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 4: books keep putting this in these positions. It's like they

1331
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 4: keep undervaluing this Chiefs team in certain spots, especially at home.

1332
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:49,439
Speaker 4: This feels like it's no different than that Ravens game

1333
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:52,440
Speaker 4: where it's like the public is going to totally believe

1334
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 4: one side and not trust or believe in this Chiefs team,

1335
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:57,320
Speaker 4: where we said it even when the Chiefs were at

1336
01:04:57,360 --> 01:05:00,640
Speaker 4: their lowest point the books had held, I felt like

1337
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:03,200
Speaker 4: the I think ten to one or eleven to one

1338
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 4: I saw for chief super Bowl odds that was pretty

1339
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:09,160
Speaker 4: impressive when you look back on this team that was

1340
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:12,560
Speaker 4: like totally dysfunctional, falling apart. But like you said that,

1341
01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:16,000
Speaker 4: they're getting pieces back, like Worthy, he's still not right,

1342
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 4: like that ankle kept popping up on that game and

1343
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:21,720
Speaker 4: that is an issue. But you know this is their

1344
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 4: last game before Rice comes back, So some people might

1345
01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:28,000
Speaker 4: not want to bet this because of that, and they're like, well,

1346
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:29,720
Speaker 4: I still think the Chiefs have a ways to go,

1347
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:30,880
Speaker 4: and they're not fully formed yet.

1348
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 3: I still think it's gonna hait b oy their offense.

1349
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 4: That's fair, but this just feels like a Chief spot

1350
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:40,320
Speaker 4: playing against a Detroit team that has been rolling. But

1351
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:43,800
Speaker 4: like we said, who they really played, they have not

1352
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 4: faced a comparable defense at all. And you know, as

1353
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:52,600
Speaker 4: good as the Browns are defensively, you saw that turf,

1354
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:56,120
Speaker 4: it's just different. You're on a track, and that's what

1355
01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:58,959
Speaker 4: this Detroit team is. They're just all these little speedsters.

1356
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:01,160
Speaker 4: So I'm excited to see what their identity is going

1357
01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 4: to be this game, because Detroit to win this game.

1358
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 4: This will be in Montgomery Gibbs game, like Kelly, run

1359
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 4: the ball down this Chiefs team's throat and control the

1360
01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 4: clock and the ball and not let Mahomes get into

1361
01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 4: a rhythm because we've seen it, like when Mahomes gets

1362
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 4: in a rythm like you did against the Jags. What

1363
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:18,479
Speaker 4: was that fourteen points? I felt like in a blink

1364
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:21,320
Speaker 4: of the eye. But once they had him off tilt

1365
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 4: a little bit, had him on the bench for a while.

1366
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:25,080
Speaker 4: You saw you just never got back into sink in

1367
01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:30,640
Speaker 4: that game. So yeah, this is a Chiefs number. It's

1368
01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:33,880
Speaker 4: it's still too at hard rock, so I'm gonna still

1369
01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:34,320
Speaker 4: grab it.

1370
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:36,200
Speaker 3: I really did think this what was gonna flip.

1371
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 4: I thought, even especially after they lost, I was like,

1372
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:41,320
Speaker 4: oh my god, the public's are professionals. They will come

1373
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 4: in so heavy on this Lion's team without looking at

1374
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 4: the numbers that every week the Chiefs. I mean, you

1375
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 4: want to talk EPA per play, Their EPA per play

1376
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 4: is going way up over the course of the season. Defensively,

1377
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 4: I still actually have some questions about spags and this defense,

1378
01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:58,120
Speaker 4: like just they.

1379
01:06:58,000 --> 01:06:59,440
Speaker 3: Don't look as fast get into the ball.

1380
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:01,680
Speaker 4: I know, and saw the Chris Jones film on that

1381
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:05,400
Speaker 4: final touchdown, Trevor Lawrence him walking around like disinterested, not

1382
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:09,920
Speaker 4: looking lost, But I don't know, say how much trying

1383
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 4: to take too much, to take too much away from

1384
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:14,040
Speaker 4: that one play, and if anything, it's going to have

1385
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 4: him even more fired up movated in.

1386
01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:20,000
Speaker 3: This game, Chris Jones. So yeah, this is pretty wild

1387
01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:24,080
Speaker 3: spot like short week for the Chiefs. I just can't

1388
01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:24,440
Speaker 3: believe it.

1389
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:27,200
Speaker 4: This number is what it is like again, trying to

1390
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 4: trust the numbers and this is a Chief's number to

1391
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:30,280
Speaker 4: back this Chiefs team here.

1392
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:31,720
Speaker 3: But I'm not gonna lie.

1393
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:33,480
Speaker 4: It feels like every ounce of me wants to be

1394
01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:36,680
Speaker 4: in Detroit and believes more in Detroit right now. But

1395
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 4: it's like I'm clearly missing something that professionals and book

1396
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:42,200
Speaker 4: makers are like or see on this chief side.

1397
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:45,160
Speaker 1: Well, look, the number as we're talking is moving from

1398
01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:48,959
Speaker 1: two to two and a half. Yeah, so who knows,

1399
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:50,880
Speaker 1: maybe he's just going to get to three and at

1400
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:54,160
Speaker 1: that point we want to play the Lions. But you know,

1401
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 1: I don't know that we have to commit to it

1402
01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 1: right now because.

1403
01:07:57,360 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 4: I gotta I can't do it to the people. I

1404
01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:01,280
Speaker 4: gotta I gotta tell them you just got to take

1405
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:03,840
Speaker 4: the Chiefs here. There's just something fishy going on in

1406
01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:06,720
Speaker 4: this line. And don't try to be You're not smart

1407
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:10,040
Speaker 4: than the books. Don't don't take Detroit. Something's going on here.

1408
01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:13,520
Speaker 2: So you're saying the way the.

1409
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 4: Three I wouldn't take Detroit. I know something's going on here, brother,

1410
01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:20,240
Speaker 4: I don't know what it is. I'm gonna try to

1411
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:22,799
Speaker 4: get to the bottom of it, but man, I cannot

1412
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:23,280
Speaker 4: get over there.

1413
01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:25,240
Speaker 1: It is weird that it's moved from one and a

1414
01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:27,559
Speaker 1: half to two to two and a half since the

1415
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:28,840
Speaker 1: Chiefs lost.

1416
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:32,920
Speaker 3: Last year and and Detroit's taking all the money.

1417
01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, something's going on that makes no sense.

1418
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:38,600
Speaker 3: It does, though, So that's what I'm gonna try to

1419
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:39,040
Speaker 3: find out.

1420
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:43,920
Speaker 1: It's crazy, all right, Buffalo at Atlanta. Atlanta is a

1421
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:47,040
Speaker 1: three and a half point dog at hard Rock, four

1422
01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 1: and a half at other places, and four at some places.

1423
01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:54,160
Speaker 1: Like there's clearly money coming in on Atlanta. I think

1424
01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:56,280
Speaker 1: the biggest factor here has to be the Bills defense,

1425
01:08:56,360 --> 01:09:02,040
Speaker 1: right and specifically their rush defense. Allegen Lee at Oliver

1426
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:04,840
Speaker 1: is coming back this week. I think that makes a

1427
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 1: big difference, really really big difference for them. Matt Milano reinjured,

1428
01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:13,840
Speaker 1: his peck may not be playing. Look, the Bills at

1429
01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:17,920
Speaker 1: this point have given up the most rushes of ten

1430
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:23,599
Speaker 1: yards or more in the NFL success rate terrible against

1431
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:26,360
Speaker 1: the run. They're giving up a first down or touchdown

1432
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:30,360
Speaker 1: literally on thirty three percent of their rushing place. Could

1433
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:36,000
Speaker 1: this be a Bjon Robinson primetime breakout domination game? The

1434
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:38,960
Speaker 1: Falcons rely more on him than the fifty to fifty

1435
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:42,080
Speaker 1: split they've been doing run pass with Michael Pennix and

1436
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:46,000
Speaker 1: get smart, keep the clock running, keep the game close.

1437
01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:47,880
Speaker 2: I lean Falcons here.

1438
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:49,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like the Falcons.

1439
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:52,120
Speaker 4: Like coming in, I was like, I'd be shocked if

1440
01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:54,839
Speaker 4: I was going to be on them. I could see myself.

1441
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:56,519
Speaker 4: Am I model like in the Bills? And then you

1442
01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:58,519
Speaker 4: dive into and what you just said so true. It's like,

1443
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:03,160
Speaker 4: can the Bill's defense cover these type of numbers against

1444
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:06,519
Speaker 4: high powered offenses? Which Atlanta, you can have questions about

1445
01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:10,160
Speaker 4: Penis when all the guys are healthy, when Penis doesn't

1446
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:13,439
Speaker 4: have a terrible pass rush to worry about. He gets

1447
01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 4: in rhythm, he's good, like you can push the ball

1448
01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 4: downfield and use his weapons.

1449
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 3: And we talked about but Jean Robinson, he.

1450
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:22,639
Speaker 4: Could say he's the top three running back right now

1451
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:24,439
Speaker 4: in football the way he's been playing this season, Like

1452
01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:27,679
Speaker 4: he's been as good as Penis has played in certain games.

1453
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:32,160
Speaker 4: It's the offense still runs through Robinson totally. At Oliver,

1454
01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:34,880
Speaker 4: big big deal to me. That's that's that's the type

1455
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:37,759
Speaker 4: of guy that could maybe flip me to this Buffalo side.

1456
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:40,880
Speaker 4: But I'm with Chez to sit here right now. I

1457
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:44,200
Speaker 4: like Atlanta, Like you said, one pub one very very

1458
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:46,240
Speaker 4: public book. You can still get plus four and a half.

1459
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:47,760
Speaker 2: I think you got to grab the four and a half.

1460
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:49,800
Speaker 4: I'll do it like I'm with you on it. It's

1461
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:52,479
Speaker 4: like that's a key number, a big number. If I

1462
01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:54,280
Speaker 4: want to buy on my position later and be on

1463
01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:56,720
Speaker 4: this Bill's side, if it does get to three, I

1464
01:10:56,760 --> 01:10:58,240
Speaker 4: can do that then. But as we sit here right

1465
01:10:58,240 --> 01:11:00,439
Speaker 4: now on Tuesday, I'm I'm totally agree with Chat. It

1466
01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:02,880
Speaker 4: feels like Alana sides the right side at that number.

1467
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:06,640
Speaker 1: Last game, another Monday Night football game, the Falcons and

1468
01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:09,560
Speaker 1: the Bills are Monday Night the Bears and the Commanders

1469
01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:13,320
Speaker 1: or Monday Night Commanders are plus four or minus four.

1470
01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 1: For longtime listeners of the show, before there was the

1471
01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:25,640
Speaker 1: rant by Simon on the Cardinals, there was the breakdown

1472
01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:30,360
Speaker 1: by me when I lost it as we were live

1473
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:37,040
Speaker 1: on the air last November no October watching the Commanders

1474
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:40,559
Speaker 1: beat the Bears in a wild ending.

1475
01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:45,719
Speaker 2: It was painful. I had not watched that.

1476
01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:52,920
Speaker 1: Hail Mary play by Jaden Daniels until this morning.

1477
01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:55,439
Speaker 2: Doing research for this show.

1478
01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:58,799
Speaker 3: That was research you want to see.

1479
01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:00,920
Speaker 1: I just wanted because I wanted to remind myself of

1480
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:04,559
Speaker 1: how bad it was, because it was such an epic breakdown,

1481
01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:07,840
Speaker 1: like it wasn't just the hail Mary. The Bears not

1482
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:13,080
Speaker 1: covering the sidelines so the Commanders could get fifteen more

1483
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:16,400
Speaker 1: yards and be able to snap the ball from the

1484
01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:20,080
Speaker 1: fifty instead of the thirty five. And then Iberfu was

1485
01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:21,920
Speaker 1: trying to say, we talked about it, we decided not

1486
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:25,320
Speaker 1: to do it because he's a jackass. But then then

1487
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:28,080
Speaker 1: the Commanders, being in the position to throw the hail Mary,

1488
01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:33,599
Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels scrambled a combined forty yards sort of in

1489
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:36,400
Speaker 1: the pocket, moving around waiting for his guys to get

1490
01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:39,759
Speaker 1: downfield and to be able to throw the ball.

1491
01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:42,559
Speaker 2: He thundered the ball, threw the ball sixty five yards

1492
01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:42,960
Speaker 2: in the air.

1493
01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:45,560
Speaker 1: At that moment, the Bears had the Commanders had a

1494
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:50,559
Speaker 1: three percent chance of winning, except the analytics were not

1495
01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:54,880
Speaker 1: accounting for the fact that Tyreek Stevenson was already celebrating

1496
01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:58,120
Speaker 1: and actually wasn't guarding the player he was supposed to guard.

1497
01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:02,519
Speaker 1: So the Commanders win that game. After that game, Jade

1498
01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:06,280
Speaker 1: Daniels becomes the anointed one. They go on to the

1499
01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:10,360
Speaker 1: NFC title game. The Bears lose ten games in a

1500
01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:16,400
Speaker 1: row and the whole narrative about Kayleb Williams being terrible starts.

1501
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:25,720
Speaker 2: When I watched it, I actually was okay because I

1502
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:29,040
Speaker 2: felt like we're out of that pathetic stage.

1503
01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:31,920
Speaker 1: And I felt like we're moving on. We found the

1504
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:35,439
Speaker 1: person we're supposed to be with. Everyone's doing great. We

1505
01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:36,559
Speaker 1: got over it.

1506
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:38,559
Speaker 2: It actually wasn't as painful as I thought it would be.

1507
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:45,479
Speaker 2: And so give me the Bears plus four rock.

1508
01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:48,439
Speaker 4: And roll Yeah and a quick as side note, one

1509
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:51,280
Speaker 4: book has flipped to Seahawks now minus one and a

1510
01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:53,080
Speaker 4: half favorites Jack's plus.

1511
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:59,080
Speaker 3: One and a half dog. Wow, yeah, pretty shocking back

1512
01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:01,519
Speaker 3: to this Bears game. I'm right there with you. What

1513
01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:03,400
Speaker 3: is this line? You can get four and a half

1514
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:03,800
Speaker 3: right now?

1515
01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:05,920
Speaker 2: This Bears team, it makes no sense.

1516
01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 4: Another public dog that I'm worried it's a trap that

1517
01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:15,240
Speaker 4: I am not. I'm overrating this Bears team somehow, which

1518
01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:18,320
Speaker 4: I don't know how I am. It's like, why is

1519
01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:21,960
Speaker 4: this number not three at best? At best three and

1520
01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:24,440
Speaker 4: a half? The four and a half it feels egregious.

1521
01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:27,679
Speaker 4: Does total disrespect to what the Bears have done this season?

1522
01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:31,679
Speaker 4: Total overreaction to what Washington did to that Chargers team,

1523
01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:34,280
Speaker 4: that we are to me it could be. But at

1524
01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:37,880
Speaker 4: the same time, the books don't overreact. So the fact

1525
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:41,840
Speaker 4: they're taking all of this bears money. Like again, it's

1526
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:44,120
Speaker 4: very early in the week. I've only talked to I

1527
01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:48,800
Speaker 4: don't know, say five book makers, but it's early Tuesday.

1528
01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:51,960
Speaker 4: All five said it is all Bears money. All at

1529
01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:54,280
Speaker 4: the four and a half. A couple moved to four,

1530
01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:57,320
Speaker 4: like hard Rock. Hard Rock has moved to four. So

1531
01:14:57,600 --> 01:15:00,640
Speaker 4: least it's moved. Check because if it hadn't moved, I

1532
01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:02,120
Speaker 4: would have been like, oh my god, or me and

1533
01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:05,040
Speaker 4: Chad just stepping in it right now. So we might be,

1534
01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:07,000
Speaker 4: but at least we know the movement's right. We're on

1535
01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:10,760
Speaker 4: the right side for the number. Wise, I am not

1536
01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:14,200
Speaker 4: fully convincing that Commander's team in any way that they

1537
01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:16,760
Speaker 4: should be getting this many points.

1538
01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:19,400
Speaker 3: Very very interesting line.

1539
01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:21,719
Speaker 4: Like Chad said, if you go back and watch that game,

1540
01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:25,080
Speaker 4: pretty much the same teams, if not, the Bears are

1541
01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:28,960
Speaker 4: better now, and you know, you could say Washingtons a

1542
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:32,360
Speaker 4: little better, but I don't think they're that much different overall.

1543
01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:36,520
Speaker 4: This is crazy, this much of a line movement. Yeah,

1544
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:40,600
Speaker 4: so yeah, it's we'll see, you know, maybe Terry mclaurin's

1545
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:42,840
Speaker 4: back this week, and that's part of it, because you

1546
01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:47,439
Speaker 4: know Deebo has played so well, Daniel's another week getting

1547
01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:50,599
Speaker 4: healthier on that knee. These are all things that are

1548
01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:53,519
Speaker 4: possibly that could be overlooking. But I could not believe

1549
01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:55,920
Speaker 4: this number was four and a half. And it's still

1550
01:15:55,920 --> 01:15:57,880
Speaker 4: four and a half of a couple of books. So yeah,

1551
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:00,439
Speaker 4: like I said, Chad, I'll I'm sure I'll get it.

1552
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:02,320
Speaker 4: I'll make sure we're not stepping in and everyone else

1553
01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:04,040
Speaker 4: is a step in it. But right now it feels good.

1554
01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:06,360
Speaker 4: Fill four and a half feels good on an undervalued

1555
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:10,080
Speaker 4: Bears team and an overrated, not overrated, just overvalued Washington

1556
01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:12,840
Speaker 4: team right now that yeah, these teams don't feel that

1557
01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:16,639
Speaker 4: far apart. Like this, Malie is basically Thomas at Washington

1558
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:19,439
Speaker 4: would be favorite if they went to the Chicago I

1559
01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:20,719
Speaker 4: just I can't believe that either.

1560
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:21,439
Speaker 3: Like that, just.

1561
01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:25,559
Speaker 4: Maybe once again, maybe we're overrating this Bears team. That

1562
01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:27,640
Speaker 4: feels like they're undervalue in this Bears team in a

1563
01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:28,080
Speaker 4: lot of ways.

1564
01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:31,080
Speaker 1: Right now, I think they're completely undervaluing this Bears team.

1565
01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:35,560
Speaker 1: I think that or is really about overvaluing the Commanders.

1566
01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:38,120
Speaker 2: I think they just saw what we saw on Sunday.

1567
01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:41,519
Speaker 1: Jayden Daniels got hot at the exact right time and

1568
01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:44,840
Speaker 1: all of a sudden dominated against a team that just

1569
01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:47,720
Speaker 1: could not convert and couldn't handle the pressure because they

1570
01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:49,200
Speaker 1: had no linemen.

1571
01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:51,280
Speaker 2: And that was the end of it.

1572
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:54,439
Speaker 1: So I think you're getting a little bit of value here,

1573
01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:59,160
Speaker 1: which is why I'm liking the Bears, Go Bears four.

1574
01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:01,799
Speaker 3: And Chad Just can I just hear you say, Simon,

1575
01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:03,480
Speaker 3: my friend, my companion.

1576
01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:06,600
Speaker 2: Simon, are you are we? Are you upset? Are you

1577
01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:08,000
Speaker 2: feeling like we're angry at each other?

1578
01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:13,559
Speaker 4: No, I'm just busting your balls, Simon, Simon, friends can fight.

1579
01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:15,400
Speaker 3: Fight.

1580
01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:18,840
Speaker 4: Just I was just busting your balls about and I

1581
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:20,519
Speaker 4: got them picked. I didn't know I struck a little

1582
01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:21,640
Speaker 4: bit of a nerve there with you.

1583
01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:22,840
Speaker 2: Did strike a little bit of a nerve.

1584
01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:27,040
Speaker 3: Takes every week, that's used to it.

1585
01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:29,640
Speaker 4: I just anytime you say you lean, I'm just like you,

1586
01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:31,240
Speaker 4: son of a bitch, pick a side.

1587
01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:32,920
Speaker 3: I know it's not fun I'm doing it with you.

1588
01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:34,760
Speaker 3: It's just I don't want to be the only one

1589
01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:35,120
Speaker 3: doing it.

1590
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:35,720
Speaker 2: Well.

1591
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:38,400
Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm saying I lean because I'm waiting for players

1592
01:17:38,439 --> 01:17:41,160
Speaker 1: to find out. I know I just like, we're doing

1593
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:43,240
Speaker 1: this on freaking Tuesday. I don't know everything.

1594
01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:45,599
Speaker 3: Yet, no one does. That's why it's just fun messing

1595
01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:46,000
Speaker 3: with you.

1596
01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:50,760
Speaker 1: Fuck you all right, Listen, these are the games that

1597
01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:53,240
Speaker 1: we're gonna dig in a little bit further on, or

1598
01:17:53,240 --> 01:17:57,240
Speaker 1: at least we're developing strong opinions.

1599
01:17:56,960 --> 01:17:59,320
Speaker 3: On really fun week a lot of really fun lines.

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01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:05,080
Speaker 1: Dalla Carolina, we like Carolina, Chargers, Miami, we like the Chargers.

1601
01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:07,439
Speaker 1: We're going to talk about that some more. Seattle, Jacksonville

1602
01:18:07,439 --> 01:18:09,479
Speaker 1: we're gonna get some calls about. Definitely gonna need some

1603
01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:13,400
Speaker 1: more conversation. Cleveland, Pittsburgh right now, we like Pittsburgh.

1604
01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:16,559
Speaker 2: We're going to talk about that some more. Arizona, Indy.

1605
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:20,280
Speaker 2: Early we were on Indy. We'll see how that settles.

1606
01:18:21,240 --> 01:18:22,520
Speaker 2: New England, New Orleans.

1607
01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:27,200
Speaker 1: That's Simon say, is presented by hard Rock bet. Chad

1608
01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:32,640
Speaker 1: doesn't agree. Las Vegas, Tennessee. That is Chad's choice. He

1609
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:33,679
Speaker 1: likes the Raiders.

1610
01:18:34,280 --> 01:18:36,599
Speaker 2: San Francisco, Tampa Bay. We gotta wait and get some intel.

1611
01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:43,479
Speaker 1: Green Bay, we love Green Bay, Kansas City, Detroit, something

1612
01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:48,040
Speaker 1: fishy is making the line move. We're gonna have to

1613
01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:51,599
Speaker 1: evaluate that one further. But right now at least, Simon

1614
01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:55,519
Speaker 1: is leaning towards Kansas City, Buffalo, Atlanta. We like Atlanta,

1615
01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:58,759
Speaker 1: it's moving in that direction. Chicago, Washington. We like Chicago.

1616
01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:02,560
Speaker 1: But all these games are going to get more discussion

1617
01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:08,440
Speaker 1: as we try to finalize our five favorite picks on Thursday.

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01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:12,040
Speaker 1: This has been Sharper Square, part of the Volume podcast network.

1619
01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:14,760
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01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:18,240
Speaker 1: are zeroing in on, plus our Survivor Pick, our Head

1621
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