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Speaker 1: with younger quarterbacks pay for their backup right three four

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Speaker 1: or five eight million dollars held. Andy Dalton made ten out.

428
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Speaker 1: Ryan Pace is one of the worst general managers we've seen.

429
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Speaker 1: In recent memory. But the going right for a good

430
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Speaker 1: backup stuff is somewhere between that five the ten million

431
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Speaker 1: dollar range. If Minshew was not a third year player, right,

432
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Speaker 1: or I guess he's he's a third year player. They

433
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Speaker 1: don't go in. Next year will be his fourth year.

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Speaker 1: If he was like a six year player and he's

435
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Speaker 1: gonna be a free agent, someone would probably give him

436
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Speaker 1: five million dollars to be the backup. Hell, someone might

437
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Speaker 1: give him like nine and let him compete to be

438
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Speaker 1: the bridge quarterback. But how he deserves a lot of

439
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Speaker 1: credit for not only making this trade, but you get

440
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Speaker 1: him in the building and because of the way Jalen

441
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,399
Speaker 1: hurts place, he gets injured and then they get the

442
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 1: opportunity to see him play and I go, well, he

443
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Speaker 1: throws it better than Jalen. Now, Jalen is a fantastic runner.

444
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Speaker 1: He's really tough and knowing a lot of people there,

445
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Speaker 1: they love his personality, the way he carries himself. He's

446
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Speaker 1: an impressive guy. It's why Saban and Lincoln Riley, everyone

447
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 1: that was around him in both those programs still speak

448
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 1: very highly of Jalen. So it's not like he's some

449
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Speaker 1: some slap right, but he has some flaws as a quarterback.

450
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Speaker 1: His throwing is very, very or miss where Minshew is

451
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 1: nowhere near the rudder obviously of Jalen. But he can throw.

452
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,639
Speaker 1: This guy can throw touchdowns. And I'm watching me yesterday

453
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Speaker 1: he's playing the Jets. So I'm not trying to anoint

454
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Speaker 1: this guy's the next starting quarterback, even if he's a

455
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Speaker 1: lifetime backup. This is the easiest move. Where were all

456
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Speaker 1: these other teams trading for a guy like this? It's

457
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,159
Speaker 1: a no brainer. It's one thing if you know you

458
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Speaker 1: had to give up a third round refor him. I

459
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Speaker 1: get teams value that position, or excuse me, value that pick.

460
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Speaker 1: The value if you get a starter in the third round,

461
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 1: how cheap there? I get it a six round pick?

462
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Speaker 1: Who gives a ship like I listen, even when I

463
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,639
Speaker 1: worked in the NFL, Like you get bored, like starting

464
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,199
Speaker 1: in the fifth round, like you're kind of throwing, you know,

465
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 1: blindfolded darts at a at a wall. Hopefully you hit something.

466
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Speaker 1: You know forever George Kittle and Richard Sherman and all

467
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Speaker 1: these you know, Tom Brady, Most guys don't turn out

468
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Speaker 1: to be much. They turn out to be role players.

469
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Speaker 1: But if I can get a quarterback for a six

470
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Speaker 1: round pick, who can win me football games if you

471
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Speaker 1: haven't had the opportunity. D there was about as peer

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Speaker 1: of a moment as you'll see. I think John Clark,

473
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Speaker 1: who covers the Eagles, got this video of Minshew and

474
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Speaker 1: his dad after the game, and he was so excited.

475
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 1: And I say it all the time as someone whose

476
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Speaker 1: dad isn't around, like, whenever I see moments like that,

477
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 1: it makes me you know, it's a powerful thing. And

478
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 1: your your family, you know, as as the older you get,

479
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,360
Speaker 1: and I'm sure anyone who's younger you'll experience this. As

480
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Speaker 1: life goes on, you realize like how much they mean

481
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Speaker 1: to you. And no matter how many professional avenues you

482
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Speaker 1: travel down, or financial gains you may have, or any

483
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 1: of the materialistic bs, there's something powerful about people that

484
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 1: have been in your life since you were nothing, since

485
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Speaker 1: literally I mean you were zero years old, and who

486
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Speaker 1: have been in the foxhole with you from day one

487
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Speaker 1: and you get to celebrate that stuff with I thought

488
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Speaker 1: that was probably one of, if not the coolest moments

489
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Speaker 1: from Sunday. Is that video going viral of Minshew and

490
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Speaker 1: his dad. And again I'm saying this over and I

491
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Speaker 1: get they beat the Jets, and the Jets are a

492
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Speaker 1: clown show right now, Robert Sala, I mean, I know

493
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Speaker 1: Zack Wilson quote unquote, are the best game of you know,

494
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Speaker 1: of his career. They're they got a long way to go,

495
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 1: but the way Minshew played, like, I think they have

496
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Speaker 1: to start asking themselves. Look at the NFC East, the

497
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 1: football team they're coming. They've been playing really, really good football.

498
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 1: Robert Very is a good coach, Like he might not

499
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Speaker 1: be the sexiest coach because he doesn't call offensive plays.

500
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Speaker 1: He's an old school dude who went to the University

501
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 1: of Teck cal former linebacker. Tough guy, dropped some f bombs.

502
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,360
Speaker 1: His team's tough, and they are not going away. Well,

503
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Speaker 1: they play the Eagles twice over the next you know,

504
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 1: four five weeks, they play the Cowboys twice. The Eagles

505
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Speaker 1: play obviously the football team twice, the Cowboys and the Giants.

506
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Speaker 1: All this stuff is gonna play out. And if I'm Sirianni,

507
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Speaker 1: if I'm Howie, if I'm Jeffrey Lourie, I think I'm

508
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Speaker 1: meeting like Monday morning. You know, let's just give him

509
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Speaker 1: into another game. Let's see if this works. Because they

510
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 1: have a lot of firepower outside and ultimately, if you

511
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 1: watch the football team, like Heineke, he's got some flaws,

512
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 1: but he can run around, he can make some plays.

513
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Speaker 1: And obviously Prescott if he can get some of the

514
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Speaker 1: mojo back, they have a ton of weapons. Once Amar,

515
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 1: he gets back into the mix, Ceedee, Lamb gallops back Pollard.

516
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,479
Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta be able to score. And we

517
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Speaker 1: saw Jalen Hurts. You know what was it feels like

518
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,159
Speaker 1: two months ago that Monday night game against Alice like

519
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 1: it was an embarrassment. Now that was the worst game

520
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 1: of the season. But to win big games, you have

521
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Speaker 1: to throw. You have to throw. It's why when Lamar,

522
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Speaker 1: It's why when we've been critical of Lamar over a

523
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Speaker 1: couple of years, like for them to make, you know,

524
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Speaker 1: huge strides in January. Lamar he's gonna always beat you

525
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 1: with his legs. He has to beat you with his arm.

526
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Speaker 1: And to me, I think you have to ask yourself,

527
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Speaker 1: just Mintew, just give us a better chance to win

528
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Speaker 1: some of these games. I don't think he's going anywhere.

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Speaker 1: That's an incredible, incredible value trade. That thing that happened Sunday,

530
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 1: there was a little out of left field was the

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Speaker 1: former shooting star Joe Brady, who wasn't the opfitive coordinator

532
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Speaker 1: of LSU. He was the co coordinator passing game guy

533
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 1: for the two thousand nineteen team, which is probably statistically

534
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,919
Speaker 1: gonna go down and it's gonna age well as one

535
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: of the greatest teams we've ever seen. But looking back,

536
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Speaker 1: you go, well, you know, it makes some sense, right.

537
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Speaker 1: They had Joe Burrow, they had Justine Jefferson, and they

538
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Speaker 1: had Jamaar Chase, and how they're running back is the

539
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,120
Speaker 1: starter for the Kansasy Chiefs. Like just their offensive loan

540
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 1: alone was remarkable, and really Clyde is more of a

541
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Speaker 1: pass catching running back. Jamaar Chase and Jefferson are already

542
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Speaker 1: elite players, and we know how good Joe Burrow is,

543
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,360
Speaker 1: so like most good coaches get made on good players.

544
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Speaker 1: But the difference here was before we had ever heard

545
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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow's name, he was just, you know, kind of

546
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Speaker 1: a quality control guy. And a lot of people ask me, like,

547
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 1: what does a quality control or graduate assistant mean? It

548
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:04,360
Speaker 1: basically just means you're like a secretary version for an

549
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator usually is what it means. You do all

550
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Speaker 1: the grunt work, all the tough stuff. Now you still

551
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 1: get to coach. You spend all this time. If you're

552
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,479
Speaker 1: a you know, a quality control guy for the Saints,

553
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: you're working hand in hand with Sean Payton. It's an

554
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 1: incredible starting point, right. All those guys that were g

555
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: as for Nick Saban over the years, all those guys

556
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Speaker 1: started quality control guys over the years for Belichick. You know,

557
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,199
Speaker 1: same thing with Andy Reid that you become head coaches

558
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,439
Speaker 1: that way. But it's the lowest level on the totem

559
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Speaker 1: pole for like a full time staff member. And that's

560
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Speaker 1: what he was until at Ozron hired him and they

561
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Speaker 1: won the national championship and he became a star, and

562
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 1: the hype train in, I would say with coaches now

563
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: because of look at the money that's getting thrown around,

564
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Speaker 1: like it hit me today. And we'll get into some

565
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Speaker 1: of the college stuff here in a second. You start

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Speaker 1: paying guys ten years eighty million, ten years million, eight

567
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: years million, whatever. What do you think these NFL coaches

568
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: are thinking? We just talked about what do you think

569
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Speaker 1: John Harbaugh and Mike Tomlin are thinking. What do think

570
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 1: Andy Reid's thinking? I mean, are you kidding me what

571
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh, these guys, Well, you're gonna pay Mario Christoval

572
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: eighty million dollars? What the funk am I worth? Because

573
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Speaker 1: that's what I'd be thinking now. Football coaches or football guys,

574
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: they're not obsessed with money, but their agents are, and

575
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,239
Speaker 1: their agents are constantly you know, they understand how much

576
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Speaker 1: money is getting thrown around, and especially how much money

577
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: the NFL is making. But Joe Brady wrote a hype

578
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: train and this happens a lot during the draft, and

579
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Speaker 1: it happens, and I was thinking about it. I remember

580
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Speaker 1: the first time that I experienced it on the media side,

581
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Speaker 1: because we used to always make fun of when I

582
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Speaker 1: was working with the team then how the media would

583
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: hype up players and how it would just create a

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Speaker 1: life of its own. And then all of a sudden,

585
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Speaker 1: you start questioning yourself inside the building. You're like, I've

586
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 1: been watching this guy for eight months. He sucks. But

587
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: now everyone, you know, you got Peter King and Albert

588
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: Breer and Coward and all these people are saying he's

589
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: you know, people are coming on their show saying he's

590
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Speaker 1: a first round pick, Like I this guy in the

591
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: fourth and things can take on a life of their own.

592
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: Nothing's more evident than several years ago with TA writers

593
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 1: like Tua can't Miss Tank for Tuah turns out he's

594
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Speaker 1: easily the third best quarterback in his draft, and it's

595
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Speaker 1: really not even that close, and he's even playing well.

596
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Speaker 1: But I vividly remember it with Marks Mariota, and when

597
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Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota was coming out and I went that year

598
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Speaker 1: to the Pact twelfth Championship, I'd seen him play live

599
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Speaker 1: a couple of times. I like Marcus Mariota and I

600
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 1: knew people for the Oregon staff at the time. His

601
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: character was impeccable, high level guy. And if you meet him,

602
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Speaker 1: Marcus is always taller than I think most people would

603
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Speaker 1: think he is, Like he's like six four. It's a

604
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Speaker 1: big dude. But yeah, he didn't throw the ball that well.

605
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Speaker 1: And if you really watched him in Oregon, he was

606
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Speaker 1: kind of inaccurate. Yet all these guys and listen, I

607
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Speaker 1: like Joe Klatt and I like Rick new Heisel. At

608
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Speaker 1: the time, I had a radio show we had him

609
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Speaker 1: both on, and they both compared him to Steve Young.

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Speaker 1: And I think sometimes college analysts they have now college

611
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: college football is the second biggest sport in America, so

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00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: their platform is massive. So when Joel Klatt talks Rick

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Speaker 1: new heisl who does the secs off, they get traction.

614
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: And I think sometimes and I didn't know this until

615
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,719
Speaker 1: I worked in the NFL, until you immerse yourself was

616
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 1: studying pro football. It's hard to make some of these

617
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: comparisons because most of these college guys are living in

618
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: Diane with college football. They're not watching NFL football Sunday

619
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: and all Monday and really then studying it Monday through Saturday.

620
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: They're doing college football stuff. So when you throw a

621
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 1: comparison like that out sounds good, people eat it up.

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00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: People like Damn Mariotta, Steve Young. It wasn't even close

623
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Speaker 1: to Steve Young. And as his careers played out, he's

624
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Speaker 1: a backup, good backup. I'd want him as my backup quarterback,

625
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Speaker 1: especially if I can get him, like the Raiders is

626
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 1: here for two or three million dollars, but he if

627
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 1: he starts like you're not gonna make the playoffs, he's

628
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: just incapable of doing that now. But the hype on

629
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: him was just so strong, right it was. It was incredible,

630
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: and it happens every single year. It will happen with

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Speaker 1: several players this year because the hype train, there's no

632
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 1: stopping it. It happened with Joe Brady, like Joe Brady

633
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 1: is the next, he wars Jordan's. He's got this necklace.

634
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: He's thirty years old. He's like the next Sean McVeigh

635
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 1: actually lasted the lead a year and a half. He

636
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: got fired, And from what I've heard, I asked a

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Speaker 1: lot of people because I just wondered, like I wonder

638
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Speaker 1: if Joe tried to jump off the seeking ship. And

639
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: from what I heard and Albert Brier wrote about this,

640
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: their offense was going the wrong way fast and listen,

641
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: it's not all Joe Brady's fault, right, They've had several

642
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: different quarterbacks, the Sam Donald decisions and disaster. He's not

643
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 1: the general manager, but he couldn't figure out how to

644
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: score points. Their offense is atrocious and it might be

645
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 1: just simple. He was a little over his head and

646
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: he shouldn't have been in that position. Now, I don't

647
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 1: blame him for taking that job. He just became a

648
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: multi millionaire. But in as Albert Brier wrote today in

649
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 1: the MMQB, like he actually interviewed last year for head

650
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 1: coaching jobs, and executives were impressed when he interviewed. I'm

651
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 1: sure he's an impressive guy. And a lot of guys

652
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: like academia. Everyone has these theories that should work. Get

653
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: the trenches of society right. You can talk to me

654
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: about supplying demand all you want, actually run the business.

655
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 1: See how it actually works. Right. It's always easy to

656
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: go in the classroom and be told like, this is

657
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: how you gotta do it. This is how you gotta

658
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 1: do it. I was like, okay, come follow me on

659
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: ten sales calls for the next month. See how fun really,

660
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 1: see how it really works. You gotta pay some guys

661
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: under the table to do something depending on your industry. Right,

662
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 1: It's that's the way the real There's a big difference

663
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: between the real world and the classroom. Just no different.

664
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Speaker 1: There's a difference between the interview and actually getting the

665
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: job and actually doing it. Because I can interview and

666
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: be really impressive, be well spoken, be articulate, look the

667
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: part drop Sean Payton and Joe Burrow and some of

668
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 1: these names have some incredible references. And then I get

669
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: the job, and then you know, and that rule. Listen,

670
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 1: he bought into the hype because he didn't know this guy,

671
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: and then he hires some kind of out of nowhere

672
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: just because that was the sexy guy to hire. And

673
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: then you get in there, well, eventually you have to

674
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: start scheming things up. You're no longer just the passing

675
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 1: game coordinator. The entire offense falls on you because your

676
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: head coach just Ceo Gay. It's all on you, buddy.

677
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 1: So when she's not working, can you fix it? Do

678
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: you have any other pitches, do you have any other schemes,

679
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: or just can you just reiterate everything Sean Payton said

680
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 1: to you. And I'm not trying to talk about this guy,

681
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 1: but it happens all the time, and then we're shocked

682
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 1: when something like he gets fired, you know, halfway through

683
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 1: the second year, which again he is not the general manager,

684
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: but you I would be shocked if he didn't be like, yeah,

685
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: I want to you know, I'll coach Sam Donald. Hell, yeah,

686
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 1: let's go trade for him. Matt Roles like okay, let's

687
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 1: do it. And then it doesn't work. And listen, I

688
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 1: had been on record of saying I would have made

689
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: that trade. The difference is I get paid to talk

690
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: for a living. I'm an entertainer. Those guys, I say

691
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 1: it all the time, like it doesn't matter what I say,

692
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 1: or what coward says, or what anyone says. It doesn't matter.

693
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 1: That is not our job. The Miami Dolphins job was

694
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,800
Speaker 1: not to figure out what hype was. It was to

695
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 1: pick the right player. And they drafted the wrong quarterback, period,

696
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: point blanket of story. It's not even arguable at this

697
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: point they would rather have Justin Herbert than to Now,

698
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that to A can't be serviceable, like

699
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: he's become somehow. Jalen Waddle is EIGHTI six catches, pretty remarkable,

700
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 1: But like it's not their job to worry about what

701
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: the the people on the outside say is kind of irrelevant.

702
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 1: It's your job to figure it out. Just like it

703
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: was Matt Rule's job to hire the right offensive coordinator.

704
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 1: He just went with a sexy, big name, right and

705
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: it's utterly failed them. And they're five and seven. They're

706
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: trending in the wrong direction. They have no uh, they

707
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 1: really don't have that many options to get quarterbacks moving

708
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: forward because they're on the hook for Sam Donald. So

709
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 1: maybe this guy will get a job, you know, as

710
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,760
Speaker 1: some big offensive coordinator uh, you know, with Mario Cristo

711
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: ball or something. But he's been on record saying he

712
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,720
Speaker 1: doesn't like to recruit. So if you don't like to recruit,

713
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: how are these big time programs gonna hire you? Because

714
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 1: you've already proven like well, when you actually had to

715
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: call the entire offense, you didn't do as well. And

716
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: things change very very fast. And let's talk about Mario

717
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: a little bit, who officially, uh told the players in

718
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: Oregon he's gone and he accepted the University of Miami job.

719
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 1: And I I have had this philosophy for a long time,

720
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 1: and I said it the other day. I guess on

721
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,760
Speaker 1: Monday's pod. I'm gonna hammer it at home again today

722
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 1: with even more than to really try to describe it,

723
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: because I am a big believer where you're from matters

724
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,879
Speaker 1: in college football. And now Oregon has lost its last

725
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 1: two coaches and really three of its last four coaches

726
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 1: to other jobs. Now granted, Chip left to the Eagles.

727
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 1: I don't think that's that crazy. But Chip Kelly was

728
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 1: not a West Coast guy, even though he's still at

729
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 1: U c l A. Just because that was it was

730
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: either U c l A or Florida and he picked

731
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 1: the you know, less pressure job. Let's just be frank

732
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,439
Speaker 1: about it. But Chip left, Helfords got fired. They hire

733
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Speaker 1: Willie Taggert. He went back to Florida State, and then Mario.

734
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,879
Speaker 1: He went back to the South. And where you're from

735
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:35,879
Speaker 1: really matters in college football, and I think where you're

736
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 1: from really matters in life. The difference is Andy Reid's

737
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 1: a California guy. He's worked down in Philly, in Kansas

738
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: City in pro football. Just do you have a star quarterback?

739
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 1: Can you win there? They'll pay you a premium? And

740
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: you're good in college football because you have to recruit

741
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: there is you have to understand, especially like on the

742
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: West Coast, your most frutal uh, you know, recruiting ground

743
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,240
Speaker 1: is gonna be California. So when you look at Oregon

744
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: when they had their longest ten year coach before Chip Kelly,

745
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: it was Mike Vladi who went to school at U C. Davis,

746
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,879
Speaker 1: who was from Sacramento, and he was there from two eight.

747
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: And I think about it all the time I've been

748
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 1: I've lived in Philadelphia, I lived for six months in

749
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 1: Kansas City, but the majority of my life I've lived

750
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: in California. It's why I say, when these when these

751
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: programs in the Pac twelve are going to hire hire

752
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: someone from the West Coast. I worked for a guy,

753
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: Pat Hill from l A worked at Fresno State for

754
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 1: like fifteen years. Pete Carroll most successful college coach out

755
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: here the last twenty years? Where is he from California?

756
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: Where'd he coach USC? Chris Peterson wheready crushed at Boise

757
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 1: State University of Washington. Who should Oregon probably hire Chris Peterson?

758
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: Jeff Tedford, California guy. I would feel comfortable if you

759
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: put me in a situation. You could put me in

760
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: the hood, or you could put me at the country

761
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:53,240
Speaker 1: club in l A, in the Bay Area, in the valley,

762
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,959
Speaker 1: in Sacramento, and I think i'd have a fighting chance

763
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 1: to spark a conversation with someone. Now doesn't mean if

764
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: you put me in the wrong hood, I might get shot,

765
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: or at the right wrong country club, I might get

766
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 1: thrown out. But if those places were in California, I'd

767
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: feel pretty good about myself. Now, I talked for a living,

768
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: so maybe I could pull it off. You did the

769
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: same thing in Texas or Florida, but I would be

770
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 1: way less comfortable. And when I was at Fresno State.

771
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: Coach Hill used to we used to recruit a lot

772
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 1: of guys from southern California, and I remember vivid this

773
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 1: guy played in the NFL for a while. He we're

774
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 1: recruiting this one guy who was a star player in

775
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 1: South central l A. Uh. It was like Compton Watts

776
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: kind of area, kind of right by USC and you know,

777
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 1: it's kind of like, uh the movie Training Day when

778
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 1: Denzel was just walking down the street at night, a

779
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 1: little like that. But he's he walks down the street

780
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,439
Speaker 1: and they're supposed to send out a guy to walk

781
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: him like three blocks because it's not safe. Well, Coach

782
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: Hill doesn't wait for him. He breaks dride and just

783
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 1: walks right down the right down the street and goes

784
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,479
Speaker 1: right knocks on the guy's door and goes it, shows

785
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: up for dinner. They're like, damn, we were supposed to

786
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: send someone for you. This guy ended up going to

787
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: a much bigger school and played in the league, actually

788
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 1: still in the league. But the point is he's he

789
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: was very comfortable he could go South Central l A.

790
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 1: Just like he could go to Monterey at the country

791
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 1: Club and recruit a player. Pete Carroll was the same way.

792
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: They're very comfortable in California. There's an ethos to our

793
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: people out here. No different than Mario when uh, when

794
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:19,399
Speaker 1: uh Miami came calling, he felt very, very comfortable going

795
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 1: home because those are his people. He is most comfortable

796
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,399
Speaker 1: around those people. You just understand them. It doesn't mean

797
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 1: you can't leave home, you don't ever come back, but

798
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,879
Speaker 1: whenever you do, you do relate to those people that

799
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: does not leave you. And in college football, when you

800
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 1: were sitting in people's homes, especially in a place like

801
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 1: Florida or in the Pact twelve where you're gonna recruit

802
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: a ton in California, being comfortable in this environment matters.

803
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: So I don't blame him at all for leaving. And

804
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 1: I think the biggest mistake Oregan has been making is

805
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: hiring these people outside Uh. Maybe the last two guys

806
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 1: have hired from South So you got the guy that

807
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: wants Florida say it was like his dream job. The

808
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: other guy's dream job was Miami. So are they using

809
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 1: you as a epping stone or they just going home?

810
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 1: If you hire a Jeff Tedford, a Chris Peterson, a

811
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll type, the only people they're gonna leave you

812
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 1: for if they're from the West coast is the NFL.

813
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 1: And the reality is with Oregon, they have Phil Knight,

814
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: who has unlimited amount of money. There is no amount

815
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 1: of money they can't spend. If they want to sign

816
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,280
Speaker 1: a guy to ten year contract, a hundred fifty million dollars,

817
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,839
Speaker 1: they can do it. But if you sign that guy

818
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 1: from Alabama's program or l s U S program or

819
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 1: Oklahoma's program, he might leave you. Why because they just listen.

820
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 1: I don't agree with everyone in state of California, but

821
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 1: I relate to the people. I just do no different

822
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 1: than like I said, listed all those guys. So if

823
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 1: you get a guy who's from this region, he's more

824
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,760
Speaker 1: likely to stay. I E. Mike Bladi, I E. Mario

825
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 1: is probably gonna be in Miami for a long freaking

826
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 1: time if he has success and they'll keep him there.

827
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: It'll be his dream job. He will not need to

828
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 1: leave because he'll be compensated. He just got eighty million

829
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:59,280
Speaker 1: dollars and uh, he'll feel very comfortable in the area.

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Speaker 1: And I think when I look at Venables, who Oklahoma

831
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 1: just hired, he's from Kansas, He's from that region. This

832
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 1: was this is a guy that has been at you know,

833
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: Clemson now for a decade making huge money. He was

834
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 1: the highest paid defensive coordinator in college football, and I

835
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 1: think even if you factored in the NFL, he'd be

836
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 1: one of the highest paid coordinators in UH in the

837
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 1: entire sport. But he kept turning down these jobs. He

838
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: kept turning down these jobs, and he finally accepted this one.

839
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 1: Now granted he'd worked there. He's lived a pretty charmed

840
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,479
Speaker 1: football life. He's worked for two people in twenty years.

841
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 1: He worked for Bob Stoop's starting until about two thousand

842
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 1: and twelve, and then the Sooner fans listening, I think

843
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 1: he got fired, forced out, went to Clemson. He's been

844
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 1: with dabbl ever since, and he came home to go

845
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 1: to Oklahoma right to become the head coach because I

846
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: think he's very comfortable with that. It's his ethos, these

847
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,399
Speaker 1: are his people. He feels very at home in this program. Also,

848
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: he's already worked there, just like Mario, he's already worked there.

849
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Speaker 1: And I think that really really matters in ledge football.

850
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 1: Where in the pros, like where's Joe Judge from? I

851
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 1: have no clue. It doesn't matter if he wins with

852
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,879
Speaker 1: the Giants. He would never leave the New York Giants. Right,

853
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 1: Belichick has happened to work in the Northeast the majority

854
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: of his career. Right worked for the Giants, work at

855
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 1: the Patriots, and worked for worked for the Jets for

856
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 1: a minute, and it feels very normal. He just kind

857
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: of just happens to be there. But like I said,

858
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 1: like Pete Carroll, he worked for the Jets and the Patriots.

859
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 1: It didn't matter if he would have had success and

860
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:26,919
Speaker 1: I got fired, he would have kept it. He would

861
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 1: have stayed. Right. Sean Payton, where is he from? I

862
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: don't know. Bruce Arians, I don't know. He went to

863
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: Virginia Tech coach the Temple. Who who cares in the

864
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 1: pro football is a completely different animal. The difference now, though,

865
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: is there so much money on the line in college football.

866
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 1: The amount of money that's getting thrown out is pretty outrageous,

867
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 1: And if you're a coach is a good thing. You

868
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: can make a tony billion. Napier just signed a five

869
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 1: year or like a fifty million dollar deal. He's I

870
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,800
Speaker 1: think a seven year contract making seven million dollars a

871
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: year to live in Gainesville, Florida. Do you know how

872
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: much money seven million dollars is to be a head

873
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 1: football coach in Florida. I mean no state income tax.

874
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: These guys are printing cash. I've been saying for a while.

875
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 1: Football coaching is the new Wall Street. You see these

876
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 1: contracts getting thrown around, like is JP Morgan paying like

877
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 1: just random people ten million dollars a year? Their CEO

878
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 1: makes a lot and a couple of executives. But they

879
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: got many football coaches now making six seven, eight, and

880
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,879
Speaker 1: then all the NFL guys people will making a ton

881
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 1: of money. Scouting community, it's not quite as lucrative, so

882
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 1: I would, uh, I would push all my scouts that

883
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 1: are listening. Maybe you should transition into coaching because there's

884
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: a lot more cash into it. Okay, let's get into

885
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 1: the middle Cooff mail bag at John Middlecoff is the

886
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: Instagram account at John Middlecoff. Uh, fire in those d

887
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 1: m s, get your question answered here on the show

888
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: and listen of the pod for a while. Despite being

889
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: a loyal listener, I am a Cardinals fan and have

890
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 1: had to listen to you pretty much bash bashed them

891
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 1: for a few years. All are worshiping the Niners and

892
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 1: the Rams, but you said recently, you fundamentally disagree with

893
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: the air raid offense, and that is why you can't

894
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 1: get behind the cards. I know I said the cards.

895
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 1: I gave them some their flowers a couple of weeks ago.

896
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: I think you need to go back to your fundamentals

897
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: because that is not what they run. Evidence can be

898
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 1: as simple as one stat rushing yards. Why don't you

899
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 1: look at your Niners? Apparently God's gift to all of us.

900
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,240
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've listened to my other podcast.

901
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 1: I talk a lot of ship about the Niners. Homie, Uh,

902
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: why don't you? Uh so don no No No, Like Collins says,

903
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 1: it's better to get it right than be right. I

904
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 1: will accept your apology on your next mail back. Honestly, though, Man,

905
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 1: your podcast awesome. Listen. They they run a spread offense.

906
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 1: It's not debatable now they've had success this year running

907
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 1: the ball. The reason they've been really good, obviously is

908
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 1: their quarterback uh and Cliffs done a good job. Again,

909
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,879
Speaker 1: I gave them their flowers a couple of weeks ago.

910
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,720
Speaker 1: They've had a fantastic season. Their defense has been awesome.

911
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: Their defense has been fantastic, it really has. They are

912
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 1: a throwing team who have it can gash in the

913
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 1: run when you're when you can spread them out, and

914
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: you have Hopkins I know he's been hurt in a

915
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: j green and they get Art's after Max Williams goes down,

916
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: you have enormous lanes, especially when the quarterback and run

917
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: to gash him in the gun runs. That they run

918
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 1: a collegiate offense and it's it's worked because they've had

919
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:19,800
Speaker 1: fantastic players, but their defense has been awesome. Maybe that

920
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: mean the Bears are a joke. And then they killed

921
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 1: him as they should. They're really good. I will not

922
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 1: take anything away from the two thousand twenty one Cardinals.

923
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 1: Like I said, I fundamentally disagree with just the softness,

924
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: Like if you're running game is completely out of gun runs,

925
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 1: it's just not really my thing. It's just not I

926
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 1: I am a traditionalist who likes my quarterback to be

927
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 1: under center in the run game. Now we can have

928
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: runs out of the gun. I have no problem with that,

929
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,919
Speaker 1: but I like to be able to do both. When

930
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,800
Speaker 1: Kingsbury last year was on a podcast with McVeigh and

931
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 1: Traeger and said, you know, Sean, some of the stuff

932
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 1: you do, I love it, that's just not what we do.

933
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 1: I I just can't get behind that line of thinking,

934
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 1: it's not what we do. I like my coach to

935
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:11,399
Speaker 1: be like, we can do anything right. Kyle can get

936
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 1: under center, he's gotta tell him to do it, to

937
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 1: take the snap and then you can do it. Now,

938
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: it's clearly working. But to be sustained winning, to do

939
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 1: it for a long period of time, you gotta be

940
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: able to do everything. Belichick's grade is attribute think that

941
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,280
Speaker 1: there's not a play that the Patriots over two decades

942
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 1: couldn't do. Peyton Manning could run out of the shotgun

943
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 1: or under center. Hell, he was doing the pistol stuff

944
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 1: in Denver. That's my point. So it's like, I'm not

945
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 1: gonna change and be like, you know, I love the

946
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: spread offense. The thing I appreciate most about Lincoln Riley

947
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 1: was his physical run game. Like I don't. I don't

948
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 1: look at the Cardinals and think they have a physical

949
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 1: run game. I think because of their success throwing the

950
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 1: ball with all their outside weapons, they are able to

951
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 1: gash people at a gun runs. It works. You know,

952
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:58,320
Speaker 1: It's just that's simple. They've had a great season. I'm

953
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 1: not taking anything away from them and might have picked

954
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 1: him in the playoffs. No, and I'm not in the

955
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 1: right or wrong business, as Cowards says forever. I'm in

956
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 1: the entertainment business. I'm gonna be wrong. It doesn't matter.

957
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 1: I'm not paid to get it right or wrong. I'm

958
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 1: just giving you my opinion and I listen. I I

959
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 1: know some people around Cliff I I've always said the

960
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: thing with Kingsbury, Marine Son people, but the scout in

961
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 1: community people. I know that it went through Texas Tech

962
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 1: loved him. Uh. I like the guy, and you know

963
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 1: he's doing a good job. But I just I don't

964
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 1: that's not really my offense. He's not gonna change right. Hell,

965
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 1: you know, BMW might be a nice car. I ain't

966
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 1: gonna drive it. That's not type car I like. Right,

967
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 1: It's just it's fine. Watching the Red Zone channel as

968
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 1: they were showing the Lions game, it occurred to me,

969
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 1: do you think the Lions would have won more games

970
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 1: with somebody like Colt McCoy, Minshew or Nick Foles. I

971
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 1: know goth had a winning drive at the end, but

972
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 1: it seems like he's not a very good quarterback. Uh, yeah,

973
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 1: I do. He can't move, he cannot move, and I

974
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: heard Coward comparing to Matt Ryan. I think Matt Ryan's

975
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 1: a lot better player than that Jared Ever was. You know,

976
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 1: Jared is very unathletic, again relative to NFL players. And

977
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 1: I like Jared too just because I naturally root for

978
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: He's from California. I'm a cal Berkeley Bears fan. But

979
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 1: he just has some major physical flaws. Now. I think

980
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: his his in terms of arm strength, very similar to

981
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,959
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan. But I even think Matt Ryan, actually younger,

982
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 1: was a better athlete that than Jared Ever was. So

983
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,240
Speaker 1: their offensive line, like, he can't really move. I would

984
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 1: rather have Gardner Minshew than than Jared Goff. Now, but

985
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: here's the other thing. Lions don't care about winning, so

986
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 1: it's like it doesn't matter. They're trying to get the

987
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 1: number one overall pick, as they should took my boys.

988
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:55,760
Speaker 1: The Packed Wolf Championship game in Vegas incredible experience. Couldn't

989
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: believe how big the game felt. Wanted to know how

990
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:02,280
Speaker 1: it looked on television beside the whipping. Oregan's asked, also,

991
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: do you think the Pack the game changes the narrative

992
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 1: around the Pack twelve or does Utah still need to

993
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 1: win the rose Ball to validate the conference. I thought

994
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:14,280
Speaker 1: the game look fantastic, absolute huge win for the conference

995
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 1: to get the Vegas stadium. Because if people are just

996
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,439
Speaker 1: more likely to go to Vegas than come to Silicon Valley,

997
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do, Like, I'm gonna go to

998
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 1: San Jose. It sucks you go to Vegas like three

999
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: days now, perfect storm, Utah right up the road. I

1000
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: mean it's three or four hours away, maybe four and

1001
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 1: a half hours. I made that drive a bunch of times.

1002
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 1: I haven't done it in a decade, but that maybe

1003
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 1: less than that. But you can make the drive straight

1004
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 1: from Vegas to Salt Lake City, so it's an easy

1005
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 1: thing for their fans, and Oregon travels well. But it

1006
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 1: felt like a Utah home game, and which makes sense.

1007
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 1: It's not very far away, just like if USCS in

1008
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 1: that game, it will be a usc home game. Uh

1009
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 1: those and obviously Oregan. It's just you gotta have the

1010
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: certain right teams and that place will be awesome. So yeah,

1011
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 1: I think if Utah were to upset Ohio State, now

1012
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: let's face it is Ohio State gonna try that hard

1013
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: to rose ball, I don't know, like they were trying

1014
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 1: to make the playoffs in Michigan was their super Bowl

1015
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 1: and they lost. So I could see Utah winning that game.

1016
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean Utah is a better program than Ohio State,

1017
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 1: but it would be a sweet win, just like when

1018
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 1: Utah beat Alabama did the Alabama that year getting knocked

1019
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 1: out in the SEC championship game. Like ball games, not

1020
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 1: everyone has the same level of you know, skin in

1021
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 1: the game, right unless you're looking at the playoffs. When

1022
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 1: you look at the ball games, when you're gonna gamble

1023
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: on the ball games, try to figure out what team

1024
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 1: wants to be there on what team does not want

1025
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 1: to be there. That that's a huge key, that's a

1026
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 1: huge factor in success. Like I wouldn't mess with the

1027
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 1: University Oregon in the ball game. I could see Oklahoma

1028
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 1: being much more fired up in the ball game. I

1029
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 1: would bet on Oklahoma in that game over Oregon. Now

1030
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 1: it's harder depending on some of the smaller schools, but yeah,

1031
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 1: it was. It looked awesome on TV. Kyle Wittie Ham

1032
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 1: kick their ass. Uh. I know you haven't addressed that

1033
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 1: the league doesn't care or an you have addressed that

1034
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 1: the league doesn't care about how bad referees are Is

1035
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 1: there anything that can players can do to fix the problem.

1036
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 1: I know players get fined if they talk or complain

1037
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 1: about the refs, but it has gotten to the point

1038
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 1: of insanity. Fire the refs. Yeah, I mean, I'm just

1039
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,839
Speaker 1: saying it's not gonna change. Man. We just gotta get

1040
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 1: used to it. They're terrible. They're bad. Now there's a

1041
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 1: human element. It's hard. Would I struggle at it? I'm

1042
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,439
Speaker 1: sure I would. It's it's a very very difficult job.

1043
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,879
Speaker 1: But the people they have doing it are not very good.

1044
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,320
Speaker 1: But it's clearly not gonna change. You talked about the

1045
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:35,800
Speaker 1: potential teams that would trade for Russ and mentioned Giants, Eagles, Dolphins.

1046
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 1: Would in Pittsburgh or the Saints make more sense in

1047
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 1: terms of his chances of winning. Better coaches, better ownership,

1048
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 1: better defense, more weapons. I get they might have cap issues,

1049
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: but the Bucks and the Rams have shown their ways

1050
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 1: to get around it. The only upper hand New York,

1051
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 1: Philly in Miami have is draft capital. But I can't

1052
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 1: see Russ waves no trade clause for any of them.

1053
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 1: But didn't he say he wanted to go to some

1054
00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:00,359
Speaker 1: of the bigger markets like I I think is gonna

1055
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:03,720
Speaker 1: be very difficult because, under no circumstances, am I John Schneider.

1056
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 1: Even if Russell says I want to get traded, am

1057
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 1: I just trading him to the Steelers for pick four? Like?

1058
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 1: What then does that do for me? That doesn't make

1059
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 1: any sense. The best player in the history of the

1060
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 1: franchise by a mile, I'm gonna trade him for a

1061
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 1: pick in the twenties. I saw what happened when the

1062
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,799
Speaker 1: Raiders did that with Khalil Mckenamari Cooper. It failed. It's

1063
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 1: a disaster. It would definitely fail when you're talking about

1064
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 1: a quarterback. So yeah, I guess he's got a no

1065
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 1: trade clause. But it's like, well, hey, Russell, I don't

1066
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: have to trade you. So it's like, hey, you want

1067
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 1: to meet in the middle. We gotta work together. We'll

1068
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 1: find you a destination. But it's gotta be a win win,

1069
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 1: because this ain't the NBA. I know you think you're

1070
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 1: like an NBA player in your brand matters, which is fine,

1071
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,479
Speaker 1: but you ain't dictating the terms here. We we're gonna

1072
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 1: work together. If you want to get traded and you're

1073
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:51,360
Speaker 1: forcing your way out from Southern Illinois. Big fan of

1074
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:53,760
Speaker 1: the show. It's time for Jerry to swallow his pride

1075
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 1: and given Zeke the bag and feature Pollar the rest

1076
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 1: of the year. He clearly made it public that Zeke

1077
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 1: will be the feature back in recent press conferences, trying

1078
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 1: to save face. Owners need to own and higher gms

1079
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,720
Speaker 1: to make decisions on the pot. I agree, there's nothing

1080
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 1: wrong with admitting a mistake in football. It happens all

1081
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 1: the time. Help mistakes happen all the time in life.

1082
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just if you don't make mistakes on

1083
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:22,399
Speaker 1: a weekly, monthly, yearly basis, you're not living life if

1084
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:25,320
Speaker 1: you're not making professional mistakes. And when I say mistakes,

1085
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 1: just like it didn't work, Just move on, just pivot now. Obviously,

1086
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 1: in the sport of football, when you give someone fifty

1087
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 1: sixty seventy million dollars, you're very financially uh obligated the

1088
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:39,800
Speaker 1: wrong word, but I think sometimes you do feel financially

1089
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 1: obligated to see it out when this is Belichick's best quality,

1090
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:45,359
Speaker 1: Like he can draft a guy in the second round

1091
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 1: and two years later he's like, for get this guy

1092
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:50,359
Speaker 1: out of here. He doesn't matter. He's very unemotional. Where

1093
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 1: I would say the one knock on Jerry Is. He

1094
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 1: gets very, very emotional with his players and coaches because he,

1095
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:58,320
Speaker 1: you know, for a guy who's worth billions of dollars,

1096
00:53:58,360 --> 00:53:59,879
Speaker 1: does kind of run it like a mom and pop shop.

1097
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 1: His family is there, right, they run it all. It's

1098
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,359
Speaker 1: pretty clear Paulard's a much better player now. Zeke does

1099
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:07,720
Speaker 1: have value, is a great blocker. He still catch the football.

1100
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: But to give him carries NonStop over a guy like Paullard, yeah,

1101
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 1: it is a mistake. Paulard is just much faster. Zeke's

1102
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 1: just lost speed. Which happens. Is the Cowboys defense good

1103
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 1: enough to carry Dack's mediocre at best quarterback play in

1104
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 1: and through the playoffs. Watching him against the Saints right now,

1105
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 1: and it just seems off. I can't put my finger

1106
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:32,319
Speaker 1: on it, but he's very inconsistent. I agree watching him,

1107
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 1: it's not like it's easy to pinpoint why he's struggling.

1108
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:37,439
Speaker 1: But you can just watch him play the last month,

1109
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 1: he's just like God, he doesn't look as good as

1110
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 1: he did the first two months. And I've been saying

1111
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 1: for a while it might just be as simple as

1112
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 1: he had the calf injury. He battled the injuries and

1113
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:48,399
Speaker 1: training camp. Maybe he's just not feeling now. He still

1114
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:50,800
Speaker 1: should be able to complete some basic passes, because sometimes

1115
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 1: he'll just have like a layup throw and I'll miss it.

1116
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 1: And one thing you think when Zac when Dac is on,

1117
00:54:56,760 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 1: is he's a reliable, consistent, accurate pastor. But when he's off,

1118
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:03,800
Speaker 1: it just feels like, God, we're missing something here, Something

1119
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:07,760
Speaker 1: isn't right right. It's like I talked about the quarterback value.

1120
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 1: When you pay a guy part of what makes Minshew

1121
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 1: such a great deal. You're paying him seven eight grand,

1122
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 1: part of what makes Cousins so maddening, even though his

1123
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 1: stats look good when you watch him and you go, yeah,

1124
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 1: I just I don't think this guy's worth thirty five

1125
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 1: million dollars. And the Vikings gave the guy a hundred

1126
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 1: and fifty million dollars, right, They gave him eighty five

1127
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 1: million dollars on his first contract, and then they gave

1128
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 1: him extension to like sixty five million dollars. They gave

1129
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 1: him a ton of money. And you watch him for

1130
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 1: a hundred and fifty million dollar quarterback, you go, I

1131
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 1: just think there should be more to this. Right, We've

1132
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 1: seen what Russell looks like we've seen my homes, We've

1133
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:48,800
Speaker 1: seen rogers, Like, that's what thirty five million dollars looks like, Brady,

1134
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,399
Speaker 1: what's up with this? At eight Cousins? And I think

1135
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 1: sometimes with Dak he has moments where he looks better

1136
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 1: than Cousins, but he also has moments where the same thing.

1137
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:00,399
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, this is not a forty million dollar back.

1138
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 1: That's why my gut instinct when they signed the contract

1139
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 1: was like, God, it just feels like a lot. And

1140
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 1: I'm not I don't count other people's pockets and I

1141
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,839
Speaker 1: don't care how much any person makes. Honestly, I root

1142
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 1: for everyone listening to make money. I I am pro

1143
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 1: everyone making cash. I'm not one of those miserable media

1144
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:20,280
Speaker 1: fox who roots for everyone to fail and all businesses

1145
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 1: go under. I'm the opposite. I want everyone to crush.

1146
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 1: But when we do talk about football, there is a

1147
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:29,239
Speaker 1: salary cap. If there was a salary cap, I wouldn't care.

1148
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:31,919
Speaker 1: But it's like, you know, to Medas, probably like twenty

1149
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: eight million dollar guy who's getting forty cousins, probably like

1150
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 1: a two million dollar guy who's getting thirty five. And

1151
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 1: that's a big deal when you're paying a guy a

1152
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 1: lot of money because of how you build your team.

1153
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 1: I mean, it's honestly the biggest, uh, you know, most

1154
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 1: underrated part about Brady. This guy never makes that much

1155
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 1: money ever. It's crazy. I'm a logger here in the

1156
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 1: Pacific Northwest, thirty minutes from Coward, went to high school.

1157
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 1: I love the show. I'm watching the Cowboys versus Saints

1158
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 1: and think it's and saying that Kellen Moore didn't get

1159
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 1: the nod for the head coach sit in tonight. I'm

1160
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 1: a Seattle fan and think it's time to move on

1161
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 1: from Pete, John and Russ. It was a good run,

1162
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,879
Speaker 1: but it's over. Is there a chance that Seattle could

1163
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:15,879
Speaker 1: get Kellen Moore next year as their head coach? He's

1164
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 1: from eastern Washington and it just makes sense. Yeah. I

1165
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 1: would imagine if Russ is gonna stay, and if John

1166
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 1: Schneider stays, he one million percent interviews Kellen Moore. I

1167
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 1: would also think he would try to interview Chris Peterson,

1168
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 1: assuming Chris Peterson doesn't take the Oregon job. And I

1169
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 1: know Chris Peterson said he's over coaching football, but he's

1170
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 1: too good of a coach to not have the interest

1171
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 1: of football. Guys, because ultimately a GM or a star quarterback,

1172
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 1: you want the best coach humanly possible. And like, I mean,

1173
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore is pretty risky, right, it would be a

1174
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 1: sexy higher. He's young, He's from the state of Washington.

1175
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 1: Like you said, I think his dad's a long time

1176
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 1: high school coach there. I don't know if he's still coaching,

1177
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 1: but he was when Kellen was in college. Um, I

1178
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 1: think he was Kelly on his coach. Actually, Kellen's brother,

1179
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 1: Kirby is on the Friends of State staff. Everyone tells

1180
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:07,919
Speaker 1: me he's a fantastic wide receiver coach. I mean, Friend

1181
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 1: States wide receivers were awesome. But yeah, I mean, I

1182
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 1: just it is risky anytime you hire a guy in

1183
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 1: his mid thirties, you know, who's only been coaching now

1184
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 1: a couple of years. It's just you just never know.

1185
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean I would. I say it all

1186
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 1: the time. He's one of the best players any level,

1187
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 1: any sport I've ever seen live. Now, granted it was

1188
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 1: him at Boise State, right, I'm not comparing him to

1189
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:31,919
Speaker 1: pro guys. I'm saying when he was at Boise State,

1190
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 1: he was incredible. The guy was a football genius as

1191
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 1: a player. He played for Pete. His dad's a high

1192
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 1: school coach. I think he's a really good coach, So yeah,

1193
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:43,439
Speaker 1: I mean I think that they would interview him for sure.

1194
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 1: Appreciate everyone listening, Have a great week, and I'll see

1195
00:58:47,520 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 1: you Friday. The Volume