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Speaker 1: It's once again time for an episode of Danielle with

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Speaker 1: I am your host, Danielle Fischel, a podcaster, TV director,

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Speaker 1: mother of two, and one time Kushling spokesperson to Panga

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Speaker 1: Lawrence of Boy Meets World fame. But for those of

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Speaker 1: you who know what a passa doble is, you probably

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Speaker 1: recognize me as a recent competitor on season thirty four

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Speaker 1: of Dancing with the Stars. In experience I consider to

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Speaker 1: be one of the most meaningful of my life, and

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Speaker 1: keep in mind, I only finished eighth Imagine if I won,

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Speaker 1: I do every night anyway. Here I am days away

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Speaker 1: from the final show where I will dance once again,

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Speaker 1: still recording this podcast, keeping you up to date on

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Speaker 1: my ballroom adventures, just as excited as you are to

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Speaker 1: find out who will hold that Len Goodman Mirror Ball

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Speaker 1: Trophy above his or her head. And I continue to

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Speaker 1: talk to experts, former contestants, incredibly gifted pros, and instrumental

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Speaker 1: it takes to produce a show as fun as Dancing

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Speaker 1: with the Stars. And today I have the honor of

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Speaker 1: sitting with someone who has become synonymous with the program.

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Speaker 1: A sitcom star who began his Hollywood career as a

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Speaker 1: child on shows like Silver Spoons and The Fresh Prince

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Speaker 1: of bel Air, then began his own Dancing with the

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Speaker 1: Stars journey in season nineteen, where he became one of

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Speaker 1: the show's most iconic participants, taking home first place and

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Speaker 1: forever reminding the world who exactly created the Carlton dance,

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Speaker 1: now known as the Alfonso. He would leverage his lovable

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Speaker 1: ever make its way back into his life, And then,

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two, for season thirty one, Alfonso is

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Speaker 1: named co host of Dancing with the Stars, a position

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Speaker 1: he still holds today, becoming a face of not only

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Speaker 1: the network, but proof of what Dancing with the Stars

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Speaker 1: can do for not only your career but also your spirit.

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Speaker 1: He's the man who sees it all and isn't afraid

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Speaker 1: to talk about it. It's my fellow Team Chicago member,

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Speaker 1: the great Alfonso Ribero. He knows hello. So good to

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Speaker 1: see you, Alfonso. I do want to start with a

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Speaker 1: story I have never told publicly, which is this extremely

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Speaker 1: odd coincidence of when my husband and I noticed that

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Speaker 1: we were walking right next to you at Disneyland. So

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Speaker 1: nobody would even know that this had happened, but I

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Speaker 1: had just started thinking, I wonder, I wonder if this

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Speaker 1: is the year I do Dancing with the Stars. I wonder,

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Speaker 1: Like it was just kind of on my brain a

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Speaker 1: little bit, and I knew I've wanted to do it

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Speaker 1: for so many years, and I you know, it's summer,

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Speaker 1: I are walking out of the Grand Californian and I

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Speaker 1: hear this beautiful voice and I go, is that a

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Speaker 1: fond so? And sure enough, directly in front of me,

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Speaker 1: there with some of the pro dancers from Dancing with

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Speaker 1: We hadn't seen each other in ages, and the first

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Speaker 1: thing out of your mouth to me was, why haven't

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Speaker 1: you done Dancing with the Stars yet.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yes, yes it was. It was supposed to happen.

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Speaker 1: It was supposed to happen.

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Speaker 2: Yes, the universe finds ways to tell us our inner

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Speaker 1: Yes, to let you know you're on the right path.

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Speaker 2: You're on that path, like, hey, just just in case

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Speaker 1: And you really were that thing for me. You you

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Speaker 1: like it was intervention. It was a divine It was

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Speaker 1: There was an interview this week with Dina Katz where

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Speaker 2: You know, I felt like this minute I saw the

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Speaker 2: this was the concept, right, and it wasn't It was popular,

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Speaker 2: and this would be perfect for me. This is something

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Speaker 2: because you know, I had wanted to do it, they

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Speaker 2: It's like, you know, it's like a divorce where you

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Speaker 2: So I knew Karina through Mario, and I knew you know,

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Speaker 1: That's amazing. I mean, I totally understand the love hate

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Speaker 2: I was like, Oh, this this dance that everybody knows

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Speaker 2: Like I wasn't this bel air kid that everybody thought

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Speaker 2: once again, like you know, saying, like your situation, the

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Speaker 1: Oh what a great distinction.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, while you're there, I'm sure you never imagine

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Speaker 1: that Tom Bergeron is going anywhere. But while you're dancing

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Speaker 2: like many years later, right that. Obviously things came into play,

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Speaker 2: And it's it's a it's a hard job with the

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Speaker 2: let them know that this is my feeling. Not that

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Speaker 2: obviously people are always like offonsin you keep taking Tom

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Speaker 1: Exactly. You keep saying you're the person.

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Speaker 1: So I love that you. You took this upon yourself,

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Speaker 2: We want to do this.

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Speaker 2: it's always about go get what you want, Go at

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Really smart, really smart. I love that. I love that.

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Speaker 2: Some might say it's the.

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Speaker 1: Twenty year anniversary, and everyone keeps saying it's one of

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Speaker 2: Okay, where are we at? Well, if we were writing

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's hear let's hear it.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, obviously, you know, being incredible friends with

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Speaker 2: But could never have guessed that Andy Richter would have

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Speaker 2: Never when we did our dance, our team dance, that

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Speaker 1: Yes, I think.

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Speaker 2: That this season is remarkable because you can take let's

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Speaker 2: be Charlie Demilio season right just stacked, yep. Right, But

435
00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say that that that last season, which was

436
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 2: very good, yeah, could even prepare to the quality of

437
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 2: dance the quality of growth that this season has had. Right.

438
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 2: The social media impact has thrown the show on its head, yep.

439
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 2: Because it isn't about what you do on the stage

440
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 2: anymore fully, it is a lot of how you handle

441
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:36,479
Speaker 2: and guide your season online. Yes, and that's a whole

442
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:41,440
Speaker 2: new can of worms that no one ever really had

443
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:45,679
Speaker 2: to deal with until this. Right, there's little bits of

444
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 2: it last season, like you saw it with Alana mar

445
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 2: and you saw it with Stephen and Aerozak, Right, you

446
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 2: saw that their social media campaign created a little bitz

447
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 2: and got them further along than they might have otherwise.

448
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 2: This year, it's everything.

449
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, it makes such a difference.

450
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 2: It's it's everything, Like you can't say you know, And

451
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 2: I'll say this because I believe this, and I would

452
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 2: say this in every world but Whitney Levitt was the

453
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 2: best celebrity dancer on.

454
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 1: The show, agreed, se Yeah, I said it too, like.

455
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 2: You can't deny like Alex Earl and Robert have gotten

456
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 2: they're close, They're very close.

457
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 1: They're yep.

458
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 2: And and we could discuss other aspects of why some

459
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 2: of those might even be above her in different ways,

460
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 2: but in terms of pure on the floor dance, not

461
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 2: even close? Correct could part that no one gets to

462
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 2: actually understand and see what's the difference in the choreography,

463
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 2: what is the level of choreography? That's right? You know,

464
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 2: there are moves that look that are easy, and then

465
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 2: there are moves that don't look great that are really hard.

466
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 2: And the professionals can see the difference, but regular eyes can't.

467
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 2: And you question whether, well the choreography almost so hard

468
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 2: that they couldn't show more flair in their routines. Right now,

469
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 2: That's that's a lot of insight, right, But at the

470
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,439
Speaker 2: end of the day, you could never imagine that she

471
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:38,439
Speaker 2: doesn't make the finale, No, I know, right, So the

472
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 2: report card is man a tough one, right, I shee

473
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:52,120
Speaker 2: as the host, I can't criticize certain things, but consistency, right,

474
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 2: being a little all over the place in terms of

475
00:27:55,000 --> 00:28:00,439
Speaker 2: scoring and numbers and theories. Right, So the theory of judging,

476
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 2: not the not them actually judging the theory. Right. Are

477
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 2: we all being judged on the same scale or are

478
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 2: there different scales for different people?

479
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 1: Right?

480
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 2: And I don't think I don't know the answer, right,

481
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,439
Speaker 2: the world doesn't know the answer. Only the judges know

482
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 2: that answer. Right. But that kind of consistency is difficult

483
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 2: for the show. So doing a report card, I say,

484
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 2: execution of dance a plus, A plus plus Right, execution

485
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 2: of the show a plus plus. The things that Conrad

486
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 2: Green has implemented this season with the celebrities and the

487
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 2: host being part of the team dance, and that all

488
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 2: of the different things bringing a past championing back to

489
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 2: dance belong with the celebrity only mind blowing that we

490
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 2: accomplish this and it was.

491
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: Fantastic, exactly and it was so great.

492
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 2: Right, like wow, you know, I think that there are

493
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 2: some things that the show still needs to look at,

494
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 2: elevated even further. And I think, and I've pitched some

495
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 2: ideas to Conrad. I won't get into all of those things,

496
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 2: but like things that will I think help tell the

497
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 2: story from the beginning to the end even better. But

498
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 2: I got to give the show an a plus plus

499
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 2: on this season. It really has been a phenomenal show.

500
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 2: I think, I think you're all laugh at it. But

501
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 2: there's only one real negative so far, and that was

502
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 2: our Rock and Roll Night, Hall of my rock and

503
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 2: Roll Hall of Fame night judged that was kind of

504
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 2: all over the place, right right, Those things have happened,

505
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 2: those things have happened before, and technically it was better

506
00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 2: than the season before.

507
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 4: The person I heard I heard saying names for themselves, right,

508
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 4: But I really think the show this season has been

509
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 4: It's been absolutely phenomenal.

510
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 2: I think that the relationship with Julianne and I hosting

511
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 2: the show together has grown to a really wonderful level

512
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 2: of consistency and connection. And I think all I think,

513
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 2: you know, our celebrities, you and and and the others

514
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 2: like brought so much to this season. People have asked me,

515
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 2: you know, why is this show so successful right now?

516
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 2: And I think many reasons, but one of the main

517
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 2: reasons is obviously, we have an incredible cast and tells

518
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 2: an incredible story and engaging and so many of you

519
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 2: guys opened your heart up, you know, to the world.

520
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 2: To be vulnerable, to go through this journey, you know,

521
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 2: purely has been amazing. And I think that there's there's

522
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 2: no way to script it. There's no way to write it,

523
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 2: to to put the pieces together, to manipulate it, right, Yeah,

524
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 2: it just has to happen organically, and that just comes

525
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 2: down to people really opening themselves up. I think one

526
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 2: of the most amazing things is to watch someone like

527
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 2: Alex Earl, who at the very beginning was yep, there

528
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 2: was no entrance, right, not allowed in here.

529
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, there were a lot of walls, a lot of

530
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: walls came across as.

531
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 2: Cold, right, but those were security right.

532
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: Correct, masks, yeah, protection, those.

533
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 2: Were protection for herself. Right. She lives in the social

534
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 2: media world where you know one wrong word and they're

535
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 2: coming after you, right, So those walls are up. But

536
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 2: to see where she's at now, yeah, it's beautiful.

537
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: I said the exact same thing. Her journey has been

538
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: maybe my favorite of the people left in the finale.

539
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 1: Her journey has been my favorite for exactly that reason.

540
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 1: And even behind the scenes, it was very similar.

541
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 3: You know.

542
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 1: It wasn't just the persona she was representing to people

543
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: in the first couple of weeks was very guarded. Behind

544
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 1: the scenes, she was very guarded, and over the weeks

545
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: there has just been a thawing and a defrosting and

546
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: her personality is oozing out of her now and she

547
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: it's just it's beautiful to see.

548
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 2: So I now why she has the followers that she has. Yes,

549
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 2: even though she doesn't really give them this that we've

550
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 2: been so blessed to see. You know, when I first

551
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 2: met her at that party in New York, and she

552
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 2: just came and hung out with me, she just stood

553
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 2: with me for like almost an hour, right, But it

554
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 2: was like, I'm not getting.

555
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: In here, Yeah, why do I what do we like?

556
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 2: We're talking, but I'm not I'm not getting in now.

557
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 2: When I have a conversation with her, I'm like, there

558
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 2: she is, yeah, right, And those kinds of journeys are

559
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 2: are what makes this show special. And when people give

560
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 2: of themselves and go through it and we get to

561
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 2: witness it, that's that's that's TV brilliance.

562
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, you mentioned the party in New York and I

563
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: saw you there as well, and actually you told me

564
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 1: that there was one piece of advice you give to

565
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: all of the contestants when they start the show. Are

566
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: you comfortable sharing that with our audience?

567
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean the advice that I give is literally

568
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 2: I kind of give a lot of advice.

569
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 1: But you give good advice.

570
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 2: I sometimes say the one thing and then like the

571
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 2: next day, I say another one thing. Here's one thing,

572
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 2: but there's tomorrow, there'll be another. One thing is to

573
00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 2: truly give of yourself, yourself up, go through the journey,

574
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 2: let people truly see who you are. And I've always

575
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 2: described this show as a reality show encased in a

576
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 2: dance competition, but not a reality show that we're used

577
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 2: to seeing. Right, It's not the fake reality where we're

578
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 2: going to create drama on It's true reality, where we're

579
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 2: going to see you live on air in your most

580
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 2: vulnerable state. Give the audience, give of yourself, and we

581
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 2: will be with you on that ride. Yeah, that was

582
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 2: the one thing that I said.

583
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: That was the thing you said. My piece of advice

584
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 1: is this is a reality show, and therefore you have

585
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 1: to be your most real Yes, and and that Yeah,

586
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: I mean it isn't you know? That is the thing

587
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: I loved about it is you know, in all the

588
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 1: otfs and in the master interviews, there are prompts. You know,

589
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 1: they want they're trying to they're trying to weave a story.

590
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 1: They don't want the story to be false, but there

591
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:06,399
Speaker 1: has to be a story. And I would regularly go, well, no,

592
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say that, because that's that's not that's

593
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: not resonating for me.

594
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 2: They sometimes hated me on my season because I was like,

595
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 2: I ain't saying that, right, I'm not, I'm not doing that,

596
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 2: but never coming out of my mouth right like badly

597
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 2: do you want to win? You want to win this?

598
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 2: Like I'm never saying that. I'm not. I'm not doing

599
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 2: that because now I'm creating expectation, and that expectation can

600
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,919
Speaker 2: come off cocky, yes, come off arrogant. That there's all

601
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 2: kinds of layers underneath those words that I'm like, nah,

602
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 2: I'm too smart to know about how this all works.

603
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 2: So I was guarded but open.

604
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

605
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 2: Right. The other thing that I always that I said

606
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 2: to everybody, and I didn't know whether it was going

607
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 2: to be one of the two things, right, was when

608
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 2: you get up to the skybox, you have this is

609
00:35:55,960 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 2: the only moment in the show that no one has

610
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 2: control over you, right, right, No other moment Everything in

611
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 2: the package is edited, everything on the floor is choreographed,

612
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 2: Every every moment of the show that you're scene is

613
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 2: produced correct. Yeah, that's the moment that you get to

614
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 2: say to America, why me? Why are you voting for

615
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,800
Speaker 2: me and not someone else? This is your moment?

616
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: Yep.

617
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 2: And I love that. I love that, and I love

618
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 2: that Julianne has gotten you know, over the last couple

619
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 2: of seasons, so good at making that connection, right, Like,

620
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 2: I don't think in the beginning it was truly understood

621
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 2: how important that moment was the celebrities journeys. But now

622
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,399
Speaker 2: it's like she gets it, and that's why I think

623
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 2: even it's the elevation of the show. The show is

624
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 2: that much better because everything has been elevated and the

625
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 2: understanding of the importance of these moments. And you know,

626
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 2: the other night, like yeah, I don't you know, the

627
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 2: judges didn't recognize it, but Jordan and Ezra had a

628
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 2: crash in the routine where he got hit on one

629
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 2: of the lifts and she came over to me and

630
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 2: it's like I'm off mic at this point, like I

631
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 2: didn't put them up to my mouth, and I'm like,

632
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 2: are you okay? Right, I'm seeing her eyes well up

633
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 2: and right. So I'm holding her hand in that moment,

634
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 2: and those are the moments for me that I truly

635
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 2: enjoy the most, where I'm making this human connection. Yeah,

636
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 2: there's a TV show happening, and we know, and it's

637
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 2: the lights and the glamour and you know, Bruno jumping up,

638
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 2: and you know, all of the judging and all of

639
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 2: the theatrics. But at the end of the day, like

640
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,240
Speaker 2: and I said this to every one of you guys

641
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 2: coming in, I got you. Yeah, I'm there with you.

642
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 2: My heart is connected to yours when you come to me,

643
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,080
Speaker 2: and I'm like, are you okay? And she was like,

644
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 2: and she had like a kind of but not really

645
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 2: moment that I thought was like, wow, okay, I got you.

646
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 2: Whatever they say right now, whatever energy's coming, like, I'm

647
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 2: putting my protective bubble around you, I got you. And

648
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 2: then they stood up and they were like, I was like, well,

649
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 2: and I looked out in my hand. I looked at her.

650
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 2: We both looked at each other and we just let

651
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 2: go of each other's hands. Like they just went off.

652
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: Right, It's no big deal, nothing happened. I didn't make

653
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 1: a face nobody even knows.

654
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's those beautiful moments for me on a

655
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 3: personal level that is, like, I love it when I

656
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 3: come over and I get like a moment with you guys,

657
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 3: even if it's just a look, just like making eye

658
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 3: contact of just saying how proud I am of what

659
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:47,879
Speaker 3: you guys have accomplished.

660
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 2: That's the part that makes it so special for me

661
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 2: on a personal level. Not the job. Right do the job,

662
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 2: We do the thing. I come up with a line,

663
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 2: I might say something funny, I might be whatever it is.

664
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 2: But for me, it's that moment because no one else

665
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:07,399
Speaker 2: on that stage knows that moment unlike like we all do, yes,

666
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 2: know what it's like to stand over there and have

667
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 2: given our heart, worked our butts off. This is the

668
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 2: last time we'll do that dance. It's all it's all

669
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,879
Speaker 2: that work, all that work, every hour, every moment, all

670
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 2: the pain, all the suffering that we go through to

671
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 2: deliver that one moment, that minute and twenty seconds on

672
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 2: that stage. Yep, now it's done. Yeah, nobody else can

673
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:33,760
Speaker 2: understand that moment like us.

674
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:34,280
Speaker 1: Yep.

675
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 2: That's a special moment for me on a personal level

676
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 2: that I get to share with all of our incredible

677
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 2: celebrities like yourself every week.

678
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And it is a special moment because I

679
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 1: always look forward to knowing that at the end of

680
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: that dance, I get to go stand next to you

681
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: and have that moment with you. And having you stand there,

682
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 1: you know, it's like you're with your pro partner, who's

683
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:03,720
Speaker 1: the person you have own the closest to and you trust.

684
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 1: I mean, assuming you have a good partnership most people do,

685
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: you trust them as if they are a member of

686
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 1: your family like you have you have learned to just

687
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 1: totally trust them. And then having you on the other side,

688
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 1: I always felt like I am I am sandwiched between

689
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 1: a fortress of goodness and so no matter what happens

690
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,879
Speaker 1: from this moment on, at least right here I feel good.

691
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 1: So thank you for making that such a safe space.

692
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 1: Robert has had such an incredible journey on the show,

693
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: and it is no secret that he is the Veguus

694
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 1: favorite to win his partner, Whitney, she has won her

695
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: only mirror Ball with you. What do you think makes

696
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: Whitney such an amazing partner?

697
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 2: Well, you know we talk behind the scenes a lot, right,

698
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 2: I am a life mentor to her in many ways,

699
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 2: and my wife Angela is even more of a of

700
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 2: a life mentor for her. On a personal level, It's

701
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 2: incredible to watch the growth of that little girl that

702
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 2: I met twelve years ago. Yeah, right, like she was

703
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 2: a baby.

704
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:16,439
Speaker 1: Wow?

705
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 2: Literally, yeah, how old is she?

706
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: How old is she?

707
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 2: Thirty?

708
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: Oh?

709
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 2: My gosh, thanks, thirty.

710
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe thirty two? Wow, So she was like twenty.

711
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 2: Yeah she was. She was twenty when when we when

712
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 2: we work together, she's twenty, she's either thirty thirty one.

713
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 2: To see who she's become is incredible. What I'm able

714
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 2: to look at is her brilliance on the floor. She's

715
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 2: able to create weekly with her contestants. You know, sometimes

716
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 2: it's a battle, right for her, sometimes it's easy. Mi

717
00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 2: low with her was the season that she should have

718
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 2: gotten her second one. They were incredible together, and I

719
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,399
Speaker 2: actually believe, and I think I'm saying something that I've

720
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 2: never really said to her, but I believe that season

721
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 2: broke her slightly because I believe that she put everything

722
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 2: into that season and was still so young that to

723
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 2: have not come home with the win created different emotions

724
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 2: in her and a bit of separation between herself. The

725
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 2: pro and the show or Celebrity and the show. Right,

726
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 2: it's coming back, coming back with Robert, and I'm watching

727
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 2: her give in a different way that she's done over

728
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 2: the last several years of herself right and open up

729
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 2: and allow people in. This is a funny story about

730
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:06,280
Speaker 2: about who Whitney is. She'll kill me, but it's true.

731
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 2: Our season, we win, We go to New York, we

732
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 2: do GMA, we do the View, and that's it. Right,

733
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 2: it's over, and it's done. There are no more obligations.

734
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 2: It's over. And Whitney picks up her bag and says

735
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 2: bye with her back to me as she's walking out

736
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:29,879
Speaker 2: the door.

737
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I'm.

738
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 2: Like, hey, hey, come here. It's like what I was like,

739
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 2: come here. She's like no, I'm like, Whitney.

740
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 1: Now we're going to have a proper goodbye.

741
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 2: Come here. This is you are gonna give me a hug,

742
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:53,280
Speaker 2: You are gonna we are gonna say goodbye. We're gonna

743
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 2: share and have this moment. You don't want it, I

744
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 2: get it.

745
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 1: She doesn't like I don't like goodbyes.

746
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 2: Yeh, nope. We are doing this and that is Whitney.

747
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 2: She is a ball of beautiful love. Yeah, she's a competitor,

748
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 2: tough young woman. She is a go getter. She is

749
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 2: incredibly talented, but there's always a little nah, you're not

750
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 2: a little out right, a little in the beginning, not

751
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 2: letting in. I think the Milo season kind of cemented

752
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:35,760
Speaker 2: that slowly.

753
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 1: I reinforced that wall a bit right and.

754
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 2: And I think she's recognizing we had a conversation, but

755
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,760
Speaker 2: I think she's recognizing that that has to go away

756
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 2: for this to happen. And it was beautiful to watch

757
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 2: the difference this last week with Prince Knight sent my

758
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 2: final week as it happened after our conversation, there was

759
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 2: a difference and what she's able to accomplish with Robert

760
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 2: never being a dancer, I know, I mean he's an

761
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 2: athlete right like he is. It was funny. There was

762
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,240
Speaker 2: a video I was standing behind it when it happened

763
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 2: of Robert and Alan burst in doing like seeing how

764
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 2: high like the box jumps. Right, they were doing it

765
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:27,320
Speaker 2: based on the judge's desk, and Alan would have busted

766
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 2: his head on the desk. Robert would have jumped up

767
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 2: on the desk like from a like literally straight up.

768
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 2: His feet were well above the desk.

769
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.

770
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 2: She's an athlete, right, you know you wrestle in alligators

771
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:44,320
Speaker 2: and crocodiles and stuff. You know you're going to be

772
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 2: an athlete. But to see his his texture start to

773
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 2: come to life is and Whitney is the perfect person

774
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 2: to do that. Whitney knows how to make a coy,

775
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 2: make a number, choreograph a number to be memorable.

776
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, she definitely does that. The trick that they

777
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 1: just did this past week where she flips him over

778
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 1: her back. I thought it was so much fun. I

779
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:14,240
Speaker 1: was like, that's just you know, stand up in apploud, like, yes.

780
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 2: They didn't show it at all on Monday, really never

781
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 2: showed it on Monday.

782
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 1: Wow. So they only did it during dress rehearsal.

783
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 2: They did onss rehearsal and then the show and we

784
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 2: were like, what was that?

785
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that's so cool.

786
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 2: We ain't got to show everything exactly, We've got to

787
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 2: be prepared to do it. And it was incredible. It

788
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 2: was an incredible move. And like she barely does anything.

789
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:44,359
Speaker 2: He just basically like.

790
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, some resaults over her, yeah, backflips over her, whatever

791
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 1: you want to. I know, it's pretty incredible.

792
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 2: How how are you doing that so an incredible partnership.

793
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 2: And yeah, I think at the end of the day,

794
00:46:55,760 --> 00:47:00,720
Speaker 2: I think that depending on what happens this week, mm hmmm,

795
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 2: they're the favorites. But I think Alex is right there.

796
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, right there.

797
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 2: We'll see. Now three hour finale going to be amazing,

798
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 2: It really is.

799
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 1: It's gonna be. It's gonna those last few minutes, as

800
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,280
Speaker 1: per usual, are going to be nail biers.

801
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

802
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,720
Speaker 1: Can we talk for a minute about Team Chicago because

803
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 1: it for me is a major life moment. Really, that

804
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: performance and the work we put into it and then

805
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: pulling it off that night and all of us crashing

806
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: to the floor and then standing up and celebrating like

807
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 1: we had just won a Mirror Ball or won the

808
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 1: Super Bowl is my I have so many favorite memories

809
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 1: for the show, and it's not even hard for me

810
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 1: to say that's my favorite moment, that's my favorite memory,

811
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 1: and my favorite moment from my entire time on Dancing

812
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,760
Speaker 1: with the Stars. It will be that moment that really

813
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 1: sticks with me. So why do you think that week

814
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 1: and that and that group of people blended so well together.

815
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 2: Well, I think that a lot of it has to

816
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:26,359
Speaker 2: do with your your ability to pick the right team.

817
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,439
Speaker 2: You and Dylan coming up with that. You know, I

818
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 2: saw your your podcast on that one and like devising

819
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 2: a plan on how you're going to get these members together. Yeah,

820
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:45,399
Speaker 2: was brilliant because really that was the right group. Yeah right,

821
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 2: everybody in that group was going to work well together. Right,

822
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 2: And I'll go into the whys. Obviously Danielle and Pasha, right,

823
00:48:56,160 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 2: so you guys are a foursome that were together, and

824
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 2: and so that team had to be together, right. So

825
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 2: obviously Ezra and Jordan, Whitney and Mark were the outliers

826
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:15,760
Speaker 2: in that. But Daniella and Pasha used to take from

827
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 2: Mark's mom, Yep, they know each other incredibly well. Right,

828
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 2: Jordan and and Ezra were kind of the outliers, right.

829
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 2: But the beauty of having Ezra was Ezra was actually

830
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 2: had great ideas but never had the wait a minute,

831
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 2: I believe the seniority thing, the competitive He just would

832
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:47,919
Speaker 2: be like what about and everybody would go, that's even better,

833
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 2: that's good. And so what what was great about our group?

834
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,320
Speaker 2: And this I think really brings it down to the core,

835
00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 2: is there's a there's a improv thing that people do.

836
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 2: If you do improv. One thing that you have to

837
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:12,799
Speaker 2: do in improv, and that is yes. And and our

838
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 2: group was yes. And all the time. It was never no,

839
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 2: but ye. And that brought everyone together. They felt like

840
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:28,800
Speaker 2: their voices were heard, even if it wasn't what was chosen.

841
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 2: It was always about improving for the team. You can't

842
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 2: ever understand from the outside how important teamwork is when

843
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 2: you're trying to accomplish something as a group.

844
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 1: Yep.

845
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 2: And and I'd heard stories from the other group that

846
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 2: that was not the case, that there was a lot

847
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 2: of well, I think it should go like this, and

848
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 2: I think it should go like that. And we were

849
00:50:56,760 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 2: working together and we were always improving. Can I tell

850
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 2: the audience something that happened with you that that I

851
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 2: think is a beautiful thing. So obviously the whole week

852
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 2: it was great. We get to the video is playing, we're.

853
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 1: On site before we're about right before.

854
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 2: We're ready to go, right, and it's a minute and

855
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 2: a half, right, and we go over the celebrity only section, right,

856
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 2: and you were struggling.

857
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 1: I called it a meltdown. I did. I talked about

858
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 1: it on my I did. I called it a melt down.

859
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: I had a foo blown melt down.

860
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 2: I was like, it was a full, full moment of

861
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, this is I can't. I don't have it,

862
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 2: and I will. And you no longer were breathing. I

863
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:53,919
Speaker 2: was like shaking, right, and you were shaking, and this

864
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 2: was the most beautiful thing I have seen in all

865
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 2: my time on the show. MARKRK turning to you, who's

866
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 2: not your partner, no right, turning to you, looked you

867
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 2: in the eye and said, breathe, yeah, breathe, take a breath.

868
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:15,720
Speaker 2: And you couldn't get your breath. You couldn't just breathe,

869
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 2: just breathe.

870
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 1: And he put his hands on my shoulders and he

871
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 1: grabbed me into a tight hug.

872
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 2: And hugged you. And when he hugged you, I was

873
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:31,760
Speaker 2: standing behind you, right, and I watched your body melt

874
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:39,439
Speaker 2: into his body like full, you're right too, I will

875
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 2: do my best. I will try to give in here,

876
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 2: stop the demon from running. Correct, And you melted into

877
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 2: his body and you and you took a breath, your

878
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 2: body melted, your hands stopped shaking, and he was like,

879
00:52:56,520 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 2: you got this, You've got this. Just breathe into it. Relax,

880
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 2: We've got you. We're here. And I walked around to

881
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 2: you and I looked you and I said, we got this.

882
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 2: And then you guys separated and we did it one

883
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 2: more time. I think there was like fifteen seconds left

884
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 2: on the top right, and you did it. You did

885
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 2: it perfect, right. We got in two hour circle, the

886
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,919
Speaker 2: music started, you're supposed to You're right behind me when

887
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 2: we started, and like it was like because we were

888
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 2: counting out our eight so you were in the third

889
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 2: count of eight and I turned around and I said

890
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 2: to you. I looked in your eye and I went

891
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 2: and I smiled and you smiled back. We got this

892
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 2: and yeah, yeah, and then we went out it and

893
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 2: we did it. Killed it, I mean killed it. It

894
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,839
Speaker 2: was literally there was nothing looking back at it. There

895
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 2: was nothing that I could find. No I would go

896
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 2: it should be this, or it could be It was

897
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 2: perfect and it was the most beautiful moment of taking

898
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 2: where we were from the beginning, yes, right walking in

899
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 2: there as a team, figuring it out the pros, having

900
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:17,839
Speaker 2: an idea, but like working through it after the first day,

901
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 2: feeling like we only got halfway through this and we

902
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 2: only got one more rehearsal, how are we even going

903
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 2: to do this to that moment was one of my

904
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 2: greatest moments on this show from my season and any

905
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:36,359
Speaker 2: other season. Was really seeing that moment and I even

906
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 2: just like I said it to Mark later that next week,

907
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:41,799
Speaker 2: and I was like, that was the most beautiful thing. Yeah,

908
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 2: we really we really cared for one another so much

909
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 2: that it was like, what do we need to do

910
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 2: for all of us to be together and succeed? Yeah,

911
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 2: it was beautiful.

912
00:54:56,840 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 1: I have that is why that That's why that dance,

913
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 1: that's why that week of it's very easy for me

914
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 1: to go favorite moment. I know exactly what it is.

915
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 1: I know exactly what it is, and it's because of

916
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:11,840
Speaker 1: all of those it's because of all of those things

917
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 1: that like, no one would ever know that no and

918
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 1: no one would ever know or even imagine how much

919
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:24,839
Speaker 1: we put into every second that we are out there.

920
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 1: It is truly a complete giving of yourself. And and

921
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 1: you know, if you think about thirty four seasons of

922
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 1: this show, if we were to we could figure it

923
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 1: out easily. How many people in total have done the show.

924
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 1: Let's say it's a thousand, whatever fight a thousand people.

925
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 1: Do you know how small it is to have a

926
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 1: thousand people who truly know what this experience means.

927
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 2: And I would say a lot less than that because

928
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:56,240
Speaker 2: most don't ever get to that point in the show.

929
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 1: You're right, most are you know, a lot of them

930
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,080
Speaker 1: are gone. Whoever's gone week one, we do.

931
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,280
Speaker 2: Right to all of those you got thirty four.

932
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:04,360
Speaker 1: Weeks gone right, right, And.

933
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:08,400
Speaker 2: More than likely the first three or four never really

934
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 2: get to that place of full connection and they're starting

935
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 2: to like go from I'm absolutely terrified walk on the

936
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:20,840
Speaker 2: floor to let's go perform this. Yeah, you know what

937
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 2: I mean. And so it's a very small number of

938
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:29,720
Speaker 2: people that really get to understand and feel what this journey,

939
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:31,840
Speaker 2: this experience.

940
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 1: Really Yeah, yeah, you're right. I want to talk to you.

941
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 1: You mentioned it a little bit, and I want to

942
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 1: talk to you about some of the judging because I

943
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 1: think if it would be remiss for us to not

944
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 1: touch on the idea that and maybe it's especially after

945
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:51,280
Speaker 1: this last week, it feels like maybe all three judges

946
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 1: have a totally different approach to their job. And in

947
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 1: a lot of ways, that's great. Who wants three of

948
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 1: the same person up there? You want three different approaches.

949
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 1: But with that said, when you've got different approaches, sometimes

950
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 1: that means there can be some tension. Yeah, what is

951
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 1: your overall I know you said you had made you

952
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 1: have some thoughts and some suggestions. You don't have to

953
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 1: tell us your ideas that you've pitched to Conrad, But

954
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 1: what do you think about how difficult it is to

955
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 1: explain how and why you are giving a score that

956
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 1: you are giving week to week, person to person, and

957
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 1: how is there a way to make it a little

958
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 1: more straightforward for the audience to understand it?

959
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 2: Well, I think that's a very difficult question. Yeah, first

960
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 2: I would say, you know, I've guess judged on the show.

961
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 2: I've done it several times on Strictly Come Dancing, which

962
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 2: is the UK the parent of the original show, and

963
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 2: judging is incredibly hard. The reasons why it's hard is

964
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 2: because you're you're having to try to come up with

965
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 2: something to say to starting with fourteen contestants for weeks

966
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 2: and now add thirty four seasons for Bruno and Carrie,

967
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 2: how do you stay fresh? How do you stay relevant?

968
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 2: How do you stay sometimes self important? And that is

969
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 2: that creates a really difficult thing for each one of them.

970
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 2: When Len was on the show, everyone understood their roles

971
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 2: right it was very clear, right. Len was the technique

972
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 2: right stickler, right, Carrie Anne was the emotion right judge,

973
00:58:56,200 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 2: and Bruno was the show right. So it's very clear

974
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 2: with Len being gone, no one has filled that role.

975
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 2: So because that role is not being filled now, it's

976
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:20,440
Speaker 2: kind of everywhere everyone feels as if they need to

977
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 2: cover the Len, but no one's doing Len. Right. Yeah, that,

978
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 2: but they're all kind of but not. And so there

979
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 2: have been inconsistencies because on one hand, you're saying, oh,

980
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 2: I love the story, but I'm giving it a seven

981
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 2: because you had a hop or you had a and

982
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 2: you're like, well, wait a minute, then why are you

983
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 2: telling me it's the problem, isn't the scores? The problem

984
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 2: for me would be the explanation because now this is

985
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 2: the bigger view we have social media, and social media

986
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 2: is creating a difficulty for them to express themselves because

987
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 2: they're getting hammered on social media. Yeah right, So now

988
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 2: no one wants to actually say they're trying to They're

989
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 2: trying to say it, but not say it because they

990
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 2: don't want to get killed in social media, and that

991
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 2: to me is the problem. Every one of those judges

992
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 2: have a right to decide what they want to give

993
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 2: and what they want to say. That's their right, that's

994
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 2: their job, whether we agree with it or disagree with it.

995
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 2: Plenty of times I'm like, what you know, what are

996
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:47,439
Speaker 2: you talking about? Like, I don't know what you saw,

997
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 2: but I saw. But that's why. That's why they're people

998
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 2: and not mission right, and that is it is what

999
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 2: it is. And a lot of us could sit there

1000
01:00:57,640 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 2: and say that we would be better at it, or

1001
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 2: some people can say that be better at it and

1002
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 2: do this. I guarantee you after two shows, you'd be

1003
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 2: really a lot of people be real quick to be like, I'm.

1004
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 1: Good, I'm good, I'm good. I don't want this job.

1005
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 2: I want this job.

1006
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 1: I agree with you.

1007
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 2: It's it's the job that only brings hate. Right. No

1008
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 2: one sits there and says, we love.

1009
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 1: You, we love you so much.

1010
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I told this person that you didn't like their

1011
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 2: full week of work. Right, So it's a thankless job.

1012
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 2: I call it parenting. Right. It's just no one tells

1013
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 2: you that you're a good parent. You just happen to

1014
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:35,440
Speaker 2: find out later when they're adults, right, whether they go

1015
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 2: off and do something special. Yeah, So to me, it's

1016
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 2: there are I think there are ways to create growth

1017
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 2: so that you can show the growth of contestants, but

1018
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:55,320
Speaker 2: there's also a way for the show to explain what

1019
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 2: they're judging the world of Dan's tried to do it

1020
01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 2: and it was way too complicated. They have like it was, yes,

1021
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 2: it was like what is this right, Like, just give

1022
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 2: us a score. The biggest problem is, in my opinion,

1023
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 2: is we start on week one and someone gets eights.

1024
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 1: I know, right, yeah now, but.

1025
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 2: Let me backtrack for a seconds. The problem is is

1026
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 2: that it's not about the journey. It's actually not about

1027
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:38,440
Speaker 2: the journey. It's eleven individual weeks. Yes, now Robert has

1028
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:40,439
Speaker 2: done the jive three times, so that's a little creek.

1029
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 2: But when you do that routine, you're not doing it again,

1030
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 2: right right, So yes, it's possible that you on week

1031
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:54,080
Speaker 2: one could actually deliver a.

1032
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 1: Ten exactly, and then the next week you might get

1033
01:02:57,880 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 1: a six.

1034
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 2: Absolutely, you can do the jive week one and get

1035
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:04,920
Speaker 2: a ten, and then do week two and do the

1036
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:08,080
Speaker 2: do the samba and be horrible. Or you could do

1037
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 2: a fox trot and you have no rise and fall

1038
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 2: and you're fish and you got heal leads when it's

1039
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 2: total leads in it, or it's the other way around,

1040
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 2: but right like, it's there. You can you can go

1041
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 2: up and down and that's okay, but no one is

1042
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 2: explaining that. I know, no one is saying that, and

1043
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 2: everybody thinks of it as the arc of a season, and.

1044
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and I mean I know I felt it

1045
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 1: because I you know, I would sometimes see dances and

1046
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:39,560
Speaker 1: the one dance would be seven seven seven, and then

1047
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:42,959
Speaker 1: another dance would be eight eight eight, and I'd go, wait,

1048
01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 1: are you telling me that those two dances are only

1049
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:49,600
Speaker 1: three points apart?

1050
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 2: How?

1051
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 1: How could that be right? And so in that would

1052
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 1: be that well, because really that one shouldn't have been

1053
01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:59,440
Speaker 1: a seven, it should have been something else. But because

1054
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 1: the week before, for it was a seven seven seven,

1055
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 1: there's nowhere to go, but there is somewhere to go.

1056
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 1: But that isn't what we're used to seeing as the audience,

1057
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 1: and maybe it's not what the judges are used to doing.

1058
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:16,480
Speaker 1: So there is a feeling that you cannot go backwards, right,

1059
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 1: But like you said that that isn't true. And I

1060
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:25,640
Speaker 1: do think although painful for maybe the fan base and

1061
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:29,000
Speaker 1: the celebrity to go wow, it really hurts to get

1062
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:31,120
Speaker 1: nine to nine to nine, and then the following week

1063
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:35,640
Speaker 1: see six sixty six. But they are individual dances. You

1064
01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:37,440
Speaker 1: would walk away from that and go, you know what,

1065
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 1: the the Argentine tangos not for me with the three sixes,

1066
01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:43,439
Speaker 1: but I love the one where I got the three nines.

1067
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 1: And that's just how it is. Some were cut out

1068
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 1: for some dances more than others.

1069
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:53,480
Speaker 2: That's okay, but that is unfortunately that is an emotional Yeah,

1070
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 2: and the audience will literally kill the judges. Yeah, if

1071
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 2: they did that. So now we're in this very difficult

1072
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:08,000
Speaker 2: arena of what do they do, what.

1073
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:08,440
Speaker 1: Can they do?

1074
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:09,920
Speaker 2: What should they do?

1075
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 1: Right?

1076
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:14,360
Speaker 2: Right? Well, they're doing the best they can, yep, exactly,

1077
01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:18,880
Speaker 2: and they will forever be criticized.

1078
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 1: Because that is the job. Yeah, that's the job.

1079
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:26,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so you know, I think it's been interesting

1080
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:29,960
Speaker 2: to watch on social media people doing their own judging

1081
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 2: and you know, but it's been quite interesting to watch that.

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Speaker 2: But you always have to remember, as I started this interview,

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Speaker 2: it's a reality show exactly in case in a dance competition,

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Speaker 2: and so the reality show still has to exist. It

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Speaker 2: has to be a human experience and you have judges,

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Speaker 2: like I remember Len would sometimes he'd be in a

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01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:57,640
Speaker 2: good mood and something would tick him off, and Len

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Speaker 2: was not going to give anybody more a four, right,

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01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:04,000
Speaker 2: And you'd be like that one no four gave last

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01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 2: week you gave a six four and it was first

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01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 2: and the last week better. And it would be like,

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Speaker 2: I'm in a bad mood than I can right, all right,

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01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:15,120
Speaker 2: all right, you know what I mean.

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01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:17,480
Speaker 1: That's a reality TV show. If you want something other

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01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:19,400
Speaker 1: than that, go to a ballroom competition, you know.

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01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 2: Absolutely, And that's what this is. And and by the way,

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01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 2: it's the best that anyone has ever done it.

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01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 1: You're exactly right, exactly right. It is so well done,

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01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:31,560
Speaker 1: it's it's the.

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01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:36,080
Speaker 2: Best Conrad Green coming back to this show understanding what

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01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:38,479
Speaker 2: the core of this show is but still being able

1102
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 2: to bring it into this new generation and this new

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01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 2: the show has been phenomenal and he's truly one of

1104
01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:47,720
Speaker 2: the best execs I've ever had a chance to work with.

1105
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:51,800
Speaker 2: But brilliant, brilliant and knows this show. He's done an

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01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:56,080
Speaker 2: incredible job of developing this into into the number one

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01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:59,480
Speaker 2: show on TV. The ratings this week was through the roof,

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Speaker 2: through the one.

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Speaker 1: That's amazing. It's amazing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: My final question for you, and I know you get

1112
01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:09,960
Speaker 1: asked this all the time, but with all the new

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Speaker 1: online discourse, I think it's worth asking again, who is

1114
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:19,000
Speaker 1: one celebrity you would love to see on the show?

1115
01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 1: You never know you may run into them at Disneyland.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, that's such a hard thing because I

1117
01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:35,400
Speaker 2: recognize the reality of where the celebrities are at point

1118
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:39,360
Speaker 2: doing the show, right, Like, there's been such a change

1119
01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:43,520
Speaker 2: in what is a celebrity uh huh days, you know,

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01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:48,480
Speaker 2: getting you know, getting that a list movie star that

1121
01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:51,400
Speaker 2: you see people you know this would be my dream partnerships,

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01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:53,480
Speaker 2: and you go, that person ain't doing this.

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Speaker 1: Tom Cruise is not going to do Dancing with the Stars.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:57,920
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're thinking.

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01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:00,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mess around and say, will Smith stud do it?

1127
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 2: Do it as lessons real? Right, So it's been really difficult.

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01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:09,480
Speaker 2: I think Dina has such a hard job, especially thirty

1129
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Speaker 2: four seasons in. I have said Jennifer love Hewett.

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01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:16,120
Speaker 1: Oh you know I just ran into her. I ran

1131
01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:19,840
Speaker 1: into her at Halloween Fest and she was watching and

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Speaker 1: she was a fan. I think that's a possibility.

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01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:25,320
Speaker 2: Well, the problem is she's her show is still going

1134
01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:28,559
Speaker 2: at the same time, so I know it until that

1135
01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:30,880
Speaker 2: show ends, and we never want shows to end.

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01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:34,000
Speaker 1: So exactly, she can't do it for a while.

1137
01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:37,400
Speaker 2: You know, we're looking at many seasons down the road. Yeah,

1138
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Speaker 2: I think she'd be fun. I think she'd be fun

1139
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:44,759
Speaker 2: to do. I think people the nostalgia, the talent, the joy.

1140
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:47,200
Speaker 2: She is a fan. I've mentioned it to her in person.

1141
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Speaker 1: Good.

1142
01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:50,280
Speaker 2: I think she'd be really fun to do.

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Speaker 1: That's a great answer. I think you're absolutely right. She

1144
01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:55,840
Speaker 1: would be fantastic for the show.

1145
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:58,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and then and then, I you know, I

1146
01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:04,280
Speaker 2: keep working hard on getting Ava's godfather to come do

1147
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:08,600
Speaker 2: the show, which is Steve Young, oh forty nine or quarterback.

1148
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:11,679
Speaker 2: So I keep working on, yeah, saying all right, next year,

1149
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 2: next year, next year, next year, next next, next year.

1150
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:18,599
Speaker 2: We're gonna next year. This has been four years now,

1151
01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:21,800
Speaker 2: so so when he watches this, we gotta put I

1152
01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 2: gotta put him put him on, put him out there again.

1153
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:29,320
Speaker 1: Well, I I just sat behind Justin Turner at the

1154
01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:32,640
Speaker 1: last week's taping, and I am friendly with Justin and

1155
01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:36,920
Speaker 1: his wife Courtney, and I think he would be an

1156
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:42,680
Speaker 1: incredible booking, a great get. Yeah, absolutely, Alfonso, thank you

1157
01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:45,720
Speaker 1: so much for taking the time I talk. I could

1158
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:49,360
Speaker 1: talk to you forever, honestly, I I so enjoy your perspective.

1159
01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:52,519
Speaker 1: I just think you're one of the most lovely, smart,

1160
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:57,680
Speaker 1: uh driven, considerate, wonderful people. I mean, you're such a

1161
01:09:57,680 --> 01:09:59,640
Speaker 1: family man. There's I could say so many wonderful things

1162
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:01,479
Speaker 1: about you, and I hope everyone knows. I think they do.

1163
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:07,519
Speaker 1: You're also one of the most inspiring individuals in career

1164
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 1: wise that I have ever met, and I so admire you.

1165
01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:13,200
Speaker 1: I look up to you. I hope to do a

1166
01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 1: fraction of the things that you have done. So thank

1167
01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:18,880
Speaker 1: you for being here with me today, and I will

1168
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:22,280
Speaker 1: I'll see you next week for the finale.

1169
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:23,759
Speaker 2: Finale, the finale.

1170
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Speaker 1: We're here.

1171
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:29,040
Speaker 2: Those incredibly kind words. Obviously, we've known each other for decades,

1172
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:32,799
Speaker 2: long time. Yeah, and it was it was such amazing.

1173
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:35,360
Speaker 2: It's so amazing to have you on the show. And

1174
01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:39,600
Speaker 2: I'm so happy that we ran into each other at Disneyland.

1175
01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:40,120
Speaker 1: Me too.

1176
01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:44,120
Speaker 2: I think this happened because you brought a lot of

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01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:47,599
Speaker 2: joy to a lot of people this season and it

1178
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:48,639
Speaker 2: was very special.

1179
01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:51,280
Speaker 1: Thank you, Alfonso, so good to see you. I'll see

1180
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Speaker 1: you in a couple of days.

1181
01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:52,800
Speaker 2: A couple days.

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Speaker 1: Danielle with the Stars Produced and hosted by Danielle Fischl.

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01:10:57,680 --> 01:11:01,439
Speaker 1: Executive Producers Jensen Carpenemy Sugarman Executive in charge of production,

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01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 1: Danielle Romo, Producer, editor and engineer Tara Sudbasch. Theme song

1185
01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 1: by Justin Siegel. Follow us on Instagram at Danielle with

1186
01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:11,439
Speaker 1: Stars and vote for me