1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: Welcome to Haunted Road, a production of iHeartRadio and Grimm 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: and Mild from Aaron Manky. 3 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 2: Listener Discretion is advised. Florida's most haunted home has seen 4 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 2: more than its fair share of tragedies. Inside the walls 5 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 2: of the May Stringer House have been sickness and suffering, 6 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 2: untimely deaths of spouses, the enslavement of more than fifty people, 7 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 2: and the tragic loss of children who died so young 8 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 2: they barely even knew their parents. Some say the spirit 9 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 2: of a little girl wanders the house to this day, 10 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 2: looking for the mother who died bringing her into the world. 11 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 2: But Brooksville, Florida, has seen more tragic events than just 12 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 2: at the May Stringer House. The city was founded largely 13 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 2: by slaveholders, who established plantations there on land taken from 14 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 2: the Native Seminole tribe under the Indian Removal Act. After 15 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 2: the Civil War and the abolition of slavery, the county 16 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 2: that Brooksville is a part of became known for its 17 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 2: klu Klux Klan activity. A minister was killed by white 18 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 2: supremacists for marrying an interracial couple, and the couple was 19 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 2: run out of town after a woman testified against local 20 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 2: men for the crimes. The courthouse was burned down. Today, 21 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 2: the Queen Anne's style May Stringer House is a museum 22 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 2: of the city and its residents, both the good people 23 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 2: who lived happy lives there and those whose legacies are 24 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 2: darkened with contemptible actions in the city block the house occupies. 25 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 2: Its walls hold about eleven thousand artifacts representing local history, 26 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 2: and those artifacts have stories to tell. Some it's even believed, 27 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 2: have menacing spirits attached to them. One people say curses 28 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 2: those with whom it comes in contact. I'm Amy Bruney, 29 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 2: and this is haunted road. Before the pandemic, Brooksville, about 30 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 2: forty five miles north of Tampa, was home to Florida's 31 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 2: the largest Civil War reenactment for more than forty years. 32 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 2: Fifteen hundred reenactors and their families traveled to the city 33 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 2: to recreate the Brooksville Raid, when Union forces arrived in 34 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 2: Brooksville to disrupt Confederate supply and communication lines. The city 35 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 2: of nine thousand has strong Civil War ties. While white 36 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 2: people began settling the area in the eighteen forties, building 37 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 2: homes and establishing plantations with slave labor, Brooksville wasn't established 38 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 2: officially until eighteen fifty six, in years marked by extreme 39 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 2: tension over ownership of enslaved people leading up to the war. 40 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 2: The city is named after Senator Preston Brooks, who was 41 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 2: infamous for beating Charles Sumner with a cane on the 42 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 2: Senate floor after the latter gave an anti slavery speech. 43 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 2: According to Tampa Bay History, in the post Civil War years, 44 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:58,239 Speaker 2: Hernando County, which includes Brooksville, was known as a hotbed 45 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 2: of clan activity. Richard Wiggins settled in the land where 46 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 2: the Mainstreamer House now sits in eighteen forty two. He 47 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 2: settled there under the Armed Occupation Act, which stated that 48 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 2: any settler who came to Florida, lived on the land 49 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 2: for five years, cultivated five acres, and built a dwelling 50 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 2: would be granted one hundred sixty acres. The aim of 51 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 2: the act was to populate Florida with men who could, 52 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 2: if necessary, take up arms against the Seminole people who 53 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 2: lived there. From eighteen thirty five to eighteen forty two, 54 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 2: the Second Seminole War raged throughout the area, while President 55 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 2: Andrew Jackson was demanding all the Native peoples leave Florida 56 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 2: and relocate to Indian Territory. The Seminoles, having already lost 57 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 2: much of their land in Florida, fought for what they 58 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 2: had left. In eighteen fifty five, John May built a 59 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 2: home on the land. The two story, four room wood 60 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 2: frame house had a parlor and dining room on the 61 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 2: first floor and two bedrooms on the second floor, connected 62 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 2: by an outside staircase. It's believed May constructed the home 63 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 2: in an unusual way to avoid taxes. A two story 64 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 2: house was taxed more heavily than a one story home 65 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 2: with a loft, which is what the house technically was, 66 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 2: because the staircase was on the home's exterior. May lived 67 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 2: on the family plantation with his wife, Marina, and daughters 68 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 2: Matilda and Anne. According to the city, they're considered one 69 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 2: of the four pioneer families of Brooksville. John May was 70 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 2: the second largest slave owner in the Brooksville area. According 71 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 2: to eighteen sixty tax records, there were fifty six enslaved 72 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 2: people on that plantation that year. After the Emancipation Proclamation, 73 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 2: many of the people enslaved by the family continued to 74 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 2: work on the property as paid laborers. John L. May 75 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 2: died of tuberculosis in the house in eighteen fifty eight, 76 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 2: and his funeral took place in the parlor of the home. 77 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 2: Marina May, then only twenty five, remained in the home 78 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 2: with daughters Matilda and Anne, running the plantation by herself. 79 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 2: Marina eventually remarried on Christmas Day of eighteen sixty six 80 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 2: to Frank Saxon. They married in the parlor, the same 81 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 2: room John May's funeral had been held eight years earlier. 82 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 2: Saxon is described by the Hernando Historic Museum Association as 83 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 2: a Confederate hero who fought in the Confederate Army's Florida 84 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 2: Third Regiment, in a unit called the Hernando Wildcats. He 85 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 2: was the first soldier wounded in the Battle of Honeymoon 86 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 2: near Jacksonville. Altogether, he was wounded five times during the 87 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 2: war and captured twice. According to saxon manners history, his 88 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 2: major wound was received in the Battle of Terryville, where 89 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 2: he was left for dead but recovered in a Union hospital. 90 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 2: At the war's surrender, he secretly carried his unit's battle 91 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 2: flag back to Brooksville, walking the seven hundred eighty seven 92 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 2: miles from the hospital to Brooksville. He later donated the 93 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 2: flag to the Museum of the Confederacy in Richmond, Virginia, 94 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 2: where it is conserved and on displace. Frank and Marina's 95 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 2: infant son, Franklin Schmid Saxon, died at the age of 96 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 2: five weeks in eighteen sixty seven. Two years later, Marina 97 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 2: died shortly after giving birth to a daughter named jesse May. 98 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 2: The cause was given as child bed fever, a post 99 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 2: birth infection. The Saxon family wasn't done with its string 100 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,919 Speaker 2: of terrible losses. Jesse May died at only three years old, 101 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 2: in the same room where her mother and her brother 102 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 2: had passed away. In eighteen seventy seven, Frank was implicated, 103 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 2: although never charged, in the murder of a local reverend, 104 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 2: a man who was formerly enslaved by the May family. 105 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 2: Reverend Arthur Saint Clair, rose to local prominence in his freedom. 106 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 2: According to the Tampa Bay Times, he was a Baptist minister, 107 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 2: community activist, and three time Republican candidate for the state legislature. 108 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 2: He also served as a voter registrar, deputy sheriff, county commissioner, 109 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 2: captain in the state militia, and delegate to the eighteen 110 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 2: seventy six Republican State Conveyed on May sixth, eighteen seventy seven, 111 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 2: Saint Clair officiated a marriage between an interracial couple, David James, 112 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 2: who was black, and Lizzie Day, who was white. The 113 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 2: next day, The Tampa Bay Times reported a group of 114 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 2: white men that included Frank Saxon and the county judge 115 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 2: went to the home of the couple to warn them 116 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 2: of impending danger. Believing the visitors intended to harm the couple, 117 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 2: neighbors opened fire. As a result, James was wounded and 118 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 2: neighbor Coles Feaster was killed. Three of the four white 119 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 2: men were wounded. The social climate of the day has 120 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 2: been characterized by the newspaper as lawless because of actions 121 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 2: like city Judge William Center reinforcing the message of what 122 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 2: was almost certainly not intended as a harmless visit when 123 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 2: he returned to the couple the next day, telling them 124 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 2: that the visit of the previous evening had been strictly 125 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 2: out of concern for their safety. Center also told them 126 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 2: that they would be safe until James's wounds healed and 127 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 2: they could leave town. They moved to Tampa about six 128 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 2: weeks later. On June twenty sixth, eighteen seventy seven, Reverend 129 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 2: Saint Clair and several others were returning from a political 130 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 2: meeting when they were surrounded by a group of twenty men, 131 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 2: which included Saxon. The men shot and killed Saint Clair 132 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 2: along with another man a woman who was traveling with them. 133 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 2: Mary Turner, afraid for her safety, initially told an inquest 134 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 2: that she could not identify any of the twenty men 135 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 2: who accosted them. However, she later recanted this testimony, stating 136 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 2: that she had feared for her life at the inquest 137 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 2: because many of those on the jury had been perpetrators 138 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 2: of the crime. At that time, she did identify many 139 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 2: of the men at the murder and testified that George 140 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 2: Cross was the shooter. Among the men she named was 141 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 2: Frank Saxon. As The Tampa Bay Times wrote, a resolution 142 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 2: passed later at a meeting in Brooksville chiding the editors 143 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 2: of the Sunland Tribune and the Ocala Banner for p 144 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 2: hnting the false statements of Mary Turner. The Tampa Guardian, 145 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 2: edited by James T. Magbie, had refused to publish the resolution, 146 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 2: claiming that it was full of damn lies. Many of 147 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 2: the signers of the resolution were either related to or 148 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 2: business partners of those thought to be implicated in the shooting. 149 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 2: Early in the morning of September twenty ninth, eighteen seventy seven, 150 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 2: the courthouse, containing Mary Turner's sworn statements and other documents 151 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 2: relating to the trial, burned down. One contemporary newspaper reported 152 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 2: that the walls of the building had been doused in kerosene, 153 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 2: as The Hernando Sun reported, there were at least ten 154 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 2: Florida courthouse fires around the time of the Hernando Courthouse fire, 155 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 2: most of these fires directly attributable to arson. Because of 156 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 2: the fire, no one was ever indicted for the murder 157 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 2: of Arthur Saint Clair. This fire, which incinerated most of 158 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 2: the county records, also destroyed many records related to the 159 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 2: May Stringer House, including any record of why Jesse May 160 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:09,079 Speaker 2: Saxon died. Saxon sold the house, and in eighteen eighty 161 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 2: five it was purchased by doctor Sheldon Stringer Senior. He 162 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 2: turned the home into the Grand manner it is today, 163 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 2: adding ten rooms across four stories and a tower and 164 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 2: wrap around porch. The house is gray with white trim 165 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 2: and green and white accents on gingerbread trim. An example 166 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 2: of late eighteen hundred s painted lady Victorian architecture. Stringer 167 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 2: was a fan of Nathaniel Hawthorne's novel House of the 168 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 2: Seven Gables, adding four more to the home to give 169 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 2: it a total of seven. The doctor lived in the 170 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 2: home and also used it for his medical practice. During 171 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 2: this time. Some say that it functioned as something of 172 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 2: a sanatorium to patients suffering yellow fever and smallpox, although 173 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 2: this claim appears to be unsubstantiated by the historical records. 174 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 2: Doctor Stringer died in April nineteen o three at age 175 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 2: six after an unidentified illness. His son, doctor Sheldon Stringer, Junior, 176 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 2: took over and ran the practice for several years. Frank 177 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 2: Saxon died in February nineteen twenty two at the age 178 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 2: of eighty one. Saxon isn't buried on the property of 179 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 2: the May Stringer House, but many other members of the 180 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 2: May and Saxon families are, including John el May, Marina 181 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 2: Jesse May, and an infant son of John and Marina. 182 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 2: There are also an unknown number of enslaved people buried 183 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 2: on the property. In nineteen fifty, doctor Stringer's granddaughter Betty, 184 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 2: sold the home and it became a rental property that, 185 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 2: as David Lapam wrote in Ghost Hunting Florida, then was 186 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 2: abandoned and suffered heavy damage from vagrants. The house became 187 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 2: a museum in the early nineteen eighties. After it was condemned, 188 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:54,319 Speaker 2: the community raised money to restore it. The May Stringer 189 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 2: House was added to the National Register of Historic Places 190 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety seven. The first of the home has 191 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:04,199 Speaker 2: doctor Stringer's office, as well as the parlor, dining room, 192 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 2: and kitchen. A post mortem photograph of Jesse May Saxon 193 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 2: hangs on the wall in the parlor, the only known 194 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 2: photograph of the child, showing her in a crib surrounded 195 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 2: by a floral wreath. On the second floor, there are 196 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 2: bedrooms on either side of a central hallway and another 197 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 2: wraparound porch. The museum also has an attic, which is 198 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 2: currently used as storage for items not on display in 199 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 2: the museum. According to the Hernando Historic Museum Association, the 200 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 2: museum comprises exhibit rooms with a Victorian look, with rooms 201 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 2: devoted to specific themes such as elegant dining room, Victorian bedrooms, 202 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 2: military room, an eighteen eighties doctor's office, and a nineteen 203 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 2: hundreds communication room which features some of Florida's earliest telephones. 204 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 2: A lot of decommunication people report experiencing, though is from 205 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:01,559 Speaker 2: spirits of the departed. Diev Obbay Times says the May 206 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 2: Stringer House is said to be floored as most haunted home. 207 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 2: Over eighty ghost hunting groups have investigated the house over 208 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 2: the years. One museum Dosn't Bonnie Litorno describes the house 209 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 2: as being like grand central station for ghosts. Footsteps, cold spots, 210 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 2: and voices, including children's laughter, have been reported throughout the house. 211 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 2: People say they've seen a mysterious black mist at the home, 212 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,959 Speaker 2: and shadows have been said to move. Some say they 213 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 2: smell the scent of phantom food in the dining room 214 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 2: after the house is locked up for the night. Staffs 215 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 2: say they've seen lights go back on inside. Others have 216 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 2: seen what they describe as glowing orbs of light in 217 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:50,439 Speaker 2: the home. According to reports, there are at least eleven 218 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 2: separate spirits who have been reported at the May Stringer House. 219 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 2: Some say they've experienced the ghosts of Marina May Saxon. 220 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 2: Others believe they've heard Jesse May crying for her long 221 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 2: lost mother. As Greg Jenkins wrote in Florida's ghostly legends 222 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 2: and haunted folklore. Although she never knew her mother, jesse 223 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 2: May was said to have missed her so terribly that 224 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 2: she would wake up in the middle of the night 225 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 2: and walk around the house crying out for her. Some 226 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 2: believe that when she got sick, she willed herself to 227 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 2: die in order to find her lost mom. Many people 228 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 2: have reported a disembodied voice saying Mama, Mama. Jesse May 229 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 2: is said to be protective of her toys and dolls. 230 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 2: People say that if they've been moved by the Docins, 231 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 2: her toys will show up in odd places, especially a 232 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 2: baby doll in a crib, possibly jesse May or the 233 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 2: ghost of another little girl. Has been known to rearrange teacups. 234 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 2: One year, Docins were setting up for a Mother's Day 235 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 2: celebration and set out several teacups. When they returned to 236 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 2: the house the following day, another tea cup had been 237 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 2: added to the table. As TC. Cottrell described in Ghostly Encounters, 238 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 2: This is happened for several days before it was discovered 239 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 2: that the cups were being moved from the china cabinet 240 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 2: by unexplained hands each night. Some believe Jesse wanted to 241 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 2: add extra tea cups so perhaps her own mother would 242 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 2: have a place at the table. Another spirit, known as 243 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 2: mister Nasty, for his angry demeanor and bad behavior, is 244 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 2: said to curse visitors. He sometimes said to have been 245 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 2: a patient of doctor Stringer's who suffered a gunshot wound, 246 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 2: but some claim he hung himself in the attic of 247 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 2: the house after his wife was unfaithful. Mister Nasty is 248 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 2: most commonly reported in the attic and is said to 249 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 2: be especially hostile to women who enter the house. Women 250 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 2: report being touched and hit by him. Others say that 251 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 2: his spirit is attached to an old actor's trunk that 252 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 2: was donated to the museum and is located in the attic. 253 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 2: Another spirit, described as playful and protective, a World War 254 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 2: One soldier named James, is said to haunt the property. 255 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 2: Some say James was a guest at the hall at 256 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 2: some point in the past. He's most often encountered in 257 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 2: the bedroom above the doctor's office, where it's said that 258 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 2: he was staying. One woman who lived in that bedroom 259 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 2: when the main Stringer house was a rental property, is 260 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 2: said that she and her sister awoke one night and 261 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 2: saw a soldier in a World War One uniform standing 262 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 2: at the foot of their bed. James is believed to 263 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 2: have been distraught over his love marrying another man, and 264 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 2: because of this he gravitates towards younger women, sometimes even 265 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 2: pinching their behinds. It is said that a World War 266 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 2: Two soldier ghost is also present in the house. He 267 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 2: is believed to have been killed in action and is 268 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 2: looking for his dog, who survived. This man doesn't have 269 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 2: any particular connection to the house itself, but some of 270 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 2: his belongings are in the museum today, including his diary 271 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 2: of his time in the Canine Corps. A Confederate soldier 272 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 2: has also been seen sitting in the old wooden wheelchair 273 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 2: in the restored doctor's office. The ghosts of several of 274 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 2: doctor Stringer's patients, believed to have died of smallpox and 275 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 2: yellow fever, are also said to be present in the house. 276 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:06,880 Speaker 2: Another man is rumored to linger at the house, having 277 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 2: been shot and died on the porch before he could 278 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 2: reach the doctor. According to ghost encounters. Some say that 279 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 2: this was a drive by shooting that was committed on horseback, 280 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 2: and some say they have seen doctor Stringer himself in 281 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 2: the home who appears on the front stairs of the 282 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 2: house wearing a black coat. As ghost Hunting Florida describes, 283 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 2: he doesn't do anything, just stands right below the landing 284 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 2: like he was shocked seeing a badly injured patient down 285 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 2: in the waiting room. Now, if you watch the episode 286 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 2: of Kindred Spirits filmed the May Stringer House, you're very 287 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 2: familiar with our upcoming guest, Autumn Rush. She was visibly 288 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 2: emotional due to the paranormal activities she's encountered there over 289 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,719 Speaker 2: the years, and now is a great chance for an 290 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 2: update and to see what activity is going on there today. 291 00:17:52,720 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 2: So that is coming up after the break. I am 292 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 2: now joined by the lovely Autumn Resh, who is the 293 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 2: curator for the May Stringer House. And if you watched 294 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 2: the episode of my TV show Kindred Spirits that we 295 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 2: filmed there, you are familiar with Autumn. So thank you 296 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 2: for joining me. It's so nice to hear your voice. 297 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 2: Thank you for having me my pleasure. You know, it's 298 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 2: funny I would say that there are certain people that 299 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 2: have been featured on Kindred Spirits, so we get asked 300 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 2: about a lot, and you are one of them because 301 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:44,360 Speaker 2: you were very emotional during the investigation. Definitely very scared 302 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 2: to be there, which is hard to do when you're 303 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 2: at work, so everyone wants to know, how are you, Autumn. 304 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 2: I am doing really well. Probably one of the more 305 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 2: well known haunts there is that there is a gentleman 306 00:18:55,440 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 2: in the attic who is definitely grumpy, and it's seems 307 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 2: like he might be associated with a trunk that is there, 308 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:08,959 Speaker 2: and I think our ultimate plan was to kind of 309 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 2: infuse the trunk with more positive things, so people would 310 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:16,439 Speaker 2: write positive letters and happy things and put them in 311 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 2: the trunk. Do you think that's kind of alleviated it 312 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,439 Speaker 2: at all? I think so they do it every so often. 313 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 1: They'll come and they'll leave a note. He I believe 314 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: likes the attention. So I think he's much more much 315 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: less aggressive. Can we say, yeah, that's good? 316 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,919 Speaker 2: Yeah he was. I investigated up there and he was 317 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 2: very touchy. There was a lot of like pinching, you know. 318 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 2: I was doing the Esta's method with the blindfold, and 319 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 2: I remember Adam getting all like defensive, like he was 320 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 2: going to beat up this ghost fors for pinching us. 321 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 2: But now is that just kind of going back. I 322 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 2: actually learned a lot going through the history for this podcast. 323 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 2: Like I learned a lot about the history of the 324 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 2: house when we did the investigation, but I learned just 325 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 2: some other additional things, just like how heavily investigated the 326 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:14,919 Speaker 2: house is I didn't realize that like eighty plus groups 327 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 2: have been in there investigating, which I think is super impressive. 328 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 2: How do you think that's affected the activity there? 329 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: That's actually a great question. I have noticed that the 330 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: activity ramps up when we have a lot of people 331 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: at the house. We call him Dary, the one in 332 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 1: the attic that's associated with the trunk Gary. He gets 333 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: he gets a little show Offrey if a lot of 334 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 1: people are there, he believes if not a dog and 335 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 1: pony show. So sometimes sometimes he won't, but most of 336 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:43,360 Speaker 1: the time he will. 337 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 2: I think that. 338 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 1: Multiple groups investigating the house for as long as they 339 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 1: have been kind of intrigues our residents, so they'll they'll 340 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 1: come out and kind of interact, if you will. So 341 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: I think it really supports spiritual environment with all of 342 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: the investigation. 343 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 2: Right, And I feel like you guys are really good 344 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 2: about making sure people are super respectful as well as 345 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 2: they investigate, which I think kind of lends to. 346 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 1: The vibe there overall. Oh, absolutely absolutely, And we remember 347 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:18,479 Speaker 1: that it's a museum first and foremost, so everybody who 348 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:22,479 Speaker 1: comes in is really expected to maintain certain standards. They 349 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: have to be respectful to the spirits and they also 350 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: have to be respectful to the artifacts. 351 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and there are a lot of artifacts, something like 352 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 2: eleven thousand if I remember. Yes, Yes, we have a 353 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 2: lot of artifacts. So one of the neat things when 354 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 2: we're investigating is sometimes we're in these locations that are 355 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 2: just filled with really cool things, and it's very easy 356 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 2: to get distracted in the main streamer house because everywhere 357 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 2: you go there's something else really cool that you want 358 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 2: to look at and you want to tinker with. 359 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 1: Yep. 360 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 2: But I also thought it kind of made it hard 361 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 2: to investigate because you're like, any one of these items 362 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 2: could be associated with a haunting. Do you think there's 363 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 2: any anything else in the house besides the trunk that 364 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 2: seems to be that seems to have any energy attached 365 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 2: to it? 366 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: Oh? Absolutely absolutely. We have a handful of named spirits 367 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: and we occasionally get we call them the transient spirits 368 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 1: that come in and out, and we also get new 369 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 1: artifacts all the time, and with those artifacts, activity will 370 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:25,120 Speaker 1: ramp up. So our theory is that sometimes these artifacts 371 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: have attachments. The tank is a great example of that. 372 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: So we didn't have the issues when the issues in 373 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 1: the attic rather prior to having the trunk, and then 374 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,199 Speaker 1: once we got the trunk, we really really had some 375 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: ramped up activity. 376 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that was the way that kind of we 377 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 2: wanted to make sure it was actually the trunk, and 378 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 2: we actually dragged the trunk down stairs to see if 379 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 2: the activity followed it, and it did. And we've used 380 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 2: that quite a few times since, Like, it's seems so 381 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 2: obvious and I don't know why we didn't think of 382 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,679 Speaker 2: it before, to just if you want to see if 383 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 2: an object has some sort of haunting attached to it, 384 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 2: just move it somewhere else and see if that same 385 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 2: activity happens, which it did. They started When people come visit, 386 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 2: even during the day, what kind of activity do they encounter? 387 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 1: Most often, well, we do history tours during the day 388 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: and sometimes had some unanticipated bonuses. Should we say, some 389 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 1: people are more receptive to it, some people don't want 390 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 1: anything to do with it, Various things from footsteps to 391 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: knocking to people being touched. More recently, we have had 392 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: a phantom smell that seems to migrate all over the house. 393 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 2: It smells like a dead critter. 394 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: So yeah, so we had assumed that perhaps maybe a 395 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 1: squirrel had gotten into some part of the house and 396 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: passed away. However, it has been months and it is 397 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: moving around the house. So we really don't have an explanation. 398 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: But the day, the day shift, and a lot of 399 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 1: our daytime yests do get to experience that phenomenon. 400 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 2: That's unpleasant. Yes, Now, speaking of unpleasant phenomena, you sent 401 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:16,439 Speaker 2: me an EVP that you captured recently. Now I listened 402 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 2: to it and I hear the word bitch. Is someone 403 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 2: calling you a bitch? That? 404 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 1: Yes, we're not sure who it is. 405 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 2: Some think it might be. 406 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: The gentleman associated with the trunk. Others things it might 407 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 1: be one of our other spirits. 408 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 2: But yes, I was in the house moving. 409 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: Some artifacts for a plaster job that we were having done, 410 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 1: and I heard the door of the bathroom jiggling. I 411 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: was the only person in the house, and for some 412 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 1: reason I got brave and I went to film it, 413 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: and at the time I did not hear anything. 414 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 2: So the door stopped jiggling. 415 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: Everything stopped and I went back to my work. Well 416 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 1: that evening, I just happened to watch the video and 417 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: I had my headphones on and I heard it day 418 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 1: and I couldn't hear it a person, but he was 419 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 1: very prominent afterwards. 420 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I heard it, and so I'll go ahead and 421 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:09,199 Speaker 2: play that for everyone. 422 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: Now. 423 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 2: It's interesting that, Yeah, you were alone in the house, 424 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 2: he said, yep, okay, And so I'm very proud of 425 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 2: you for being alone in the house. You know that 426 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 2: was hard for you for a long time. Yeah, uh uh. 427 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 2: And so that's and you were you actually were experiencing phenomenon. 428 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:31,919 Speaker 2: So then you picked up and started recording, which I 429 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,199 Speaker 2: tell people to do this a lot, because sometimes you 430 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 2: will capture a voice. And like, you didn't hear this 431 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 2: at the time. So that's super interesting. And now, how 432 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 2: do you feel like now that when you heard that, 433 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 2: were you okay going back to the house after that? 434 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 2: Or you know, this seems like kind of could be 435 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 2: a new spirit of some sort because the other guy's 436 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 2: up in the attic and this is like broad daylight. Yes, 437 00:25:56,200 --> 00:26:00,120 Speaker 2: I don't know where you were, yeah, but downstairs. 438 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 1: And the doctor's office. 439 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. 440 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: So afterwards, after I heard it, I was a little sketchy. 441 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,679 Speaker 1: I didn't want to go in by myself, so I 442 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:14,199 Speaker 1: did have co workers and my husband and you know, 443 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: various friends. They usually come and set with me while 444 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: I'm doing my work. We're we're not sure if this 445 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: entity is affiliated with a shadow person that we've been 446 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:31,679 Speaker 1: saying frequently downstairs, so we're kind of just keeping our 447 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: eyes opening. But I don't, you know, I'm not in 448 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 1: any danger. I don't feel like I would be in 449 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 1: any danger. It's just more or less like somebody's watching 450 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 1: me and it's a little freaky, So I just want 451 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: somebody with me. 452 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that makes sense. So the shadow figure, how 453 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 2: often are you experiencing this? Now? 454 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: I have seen him personally twice, and other people other 455 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 1: dozents have also seen him around, and he's usually in 456 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 1: the evening time. When I saw him, he was after 457 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: aboard me and I had walked to the front door 458 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 1: to make sure it was locked, and I had my 459 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 1: cell phone light because we had already shut everything down. 460 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: And when I got to the foyer, I shined my 461 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: light towards the door and he was standing between myself 462 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: and the door, and immediate immediate shock, and of course 463 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 1: I turn around and go straight back to the gift shop. 464 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: And I got one of my co workers and we 465 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: both returned to the front door, and now he was 466 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: on the stairs. He was not standing between us anymore, 467 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:29,679 Speaker 1: so he had moved. 468 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 2: Wow. 469 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: Yes, and we both left. And it's very unusual that 470 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: this particular coworker that I was with gets unnerved like that. 471 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: But the minute she saw him and I saw him 472 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 1: at the same time, she said, let's get out of here. 473 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: And as we were heading back to the door, she 474 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,919 Speaker 1: did turn around and said that he was standing in 475 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 1: front of the stairs at that point, so he was moving. 476 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:58,439 Speaker 2: That is very creepy, yes, to say the least, you know, 477 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 2: and it's not often that you, you know, someone sees 478 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 2: his shadow and goes to get someone else and says, 479 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 2: this is what I saw, and then you both see 480 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 2: it again, you know, many times it's kind of like 481 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 2: it's gone at that point. Yeah, but not only did 482 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 2: you both see it at the same time, but he 483 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 2: definitely was trying to make himself known, Like as you 484 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 2: were leaving, he was coming down the stairs. So I 485 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 2: what was the energy like in the room at that time? 486 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 2: I obviously you feel kind of scared, like somebody's watching you. 487 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 2: What was the vibe overall? 488 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 1: Very heavy? He's when he's around, We find that it's 489 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: it's a little more heavy than usual. I have not 490 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: seen him upstairs, he's usually downstairs, but definitely a heavy 491 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: vibe to him. 492 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 2: That kind of activity almost seems like he really wants 493 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 2: you to know that he's there for some reason. 494 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 1: Absolutely. 495 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 2: Now, I was reading, and I don't remember if we 496 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 2: encountered this there or if we talked about it while 497 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 2: you were there. I was reading that sometimes people experience 498 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 2: a little girl in the house has Is that something 499 00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 2: you're familiar with? 500 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I have heard several guests tell me about 501 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 1: the little girl. 502 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 2: We think it could be Jesse May. 503 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: She was an infant at the time she passed, and 504 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: she would have passed in the late eighteen hundreds from. 505 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 2: An unknown cause. 506 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: That being said, there are several children in the house, 507 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: so it's hard to tell when the little girl is 508 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: speaking or if one of the other girls are speaking. 509 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,719 Speaker 1: There's also a little boy so and he sounds very 510 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: much like a little girl when he is audible when 511 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: you hear him. So the only time I have encountered 512 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 1: one of the little ones was again in the doctor's 513 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: office and I heard him laugh, and I thought it 514 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: was potentially a guest who had, you know, come in 515 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: the back door. But there was nobody besides myself and 516 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 1: my coworker who was another touring docent, and she also 517 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: heard it. So we looked around. We didn't find anything 518 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 1: out of place, but it was it was very clear 519 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 1: like he was standing probably a couple of feet away, 520 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 1: he or she. I wasn't sure if we could if 521 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: it was a little boy or little girl. 522 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I know, kids kind of tend to sound 523 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 2: the same at that age, and it's hard to discern. 524 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 2: You know, if you're talking to now, what would you say, 525 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 2: is are the hot spots in the house like obviously 526 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 2: the attic, but it sounds like the doctor's office is well. 527 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 2: Are there certain areas that seem to have more activity? 528 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 1: Absolutely, there is the second floor landing that is by far, 529 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: I'd have to say the second most active area in 530 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 1: the house, attic being the first. Jesse Maine's room is 531 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: right there, so we have a lot of activity there 532 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 1: in jesse May's room and next door in the communications room. 533 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: There are several different entities in some of the jocents 534 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 1: who have been there a longer time than me can 535 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: kind of shoell them apart when they make themselves known. 536 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 1: I'm only able to do it with a couple of them, 537 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: you know, of course, the spirit with the chunk Gary 538 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 1: and I can tell if there is another one James, 539 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: I can tell if he's there. But that's a very 540 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 1: active area. The doctor's office has actually been more active 541 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 1: as of late, and were not sure why. And it 542 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 1: was right after the time when I was called a rich. 543 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 2: Oh okay, did you guys get any new artifacts in there? Surprisingly? No, 544 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 2: because I was thinking he was maybe a tribute. 545 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: To an artifact. But we did not have any new 546 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: artifacts in the doctor's office at that time. We did 547 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 1: get a victrolla, okay victrolla around that time, but that 548 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: was I did place that in the parlor, so he 549 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 1: could possibly be associated with that, or it could just 550 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: be one of the grumpy ones upstairs that's coming down, 551 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 1: but we're not one hundred percent sure. 552 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 2: Now, is this the same victrola that you had before, 553 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 2: or did you get another one in addition to that? 554 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 1: It was it's another one in addition to that one. 555 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 2: Oh okay, I do remember that that caused activity when 556 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 2: we played that, that definitely changed the kind of feeling 557 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 2: of the house overall. There was something about that first 558 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 2: Victrola that just really triggered something. I think that just 559 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 2: goes for music overall, and a lot of investment stigations. 560 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 2: But we, uh, I think we were allowed to touch it. Yeah, 561 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 2: of course, I'm like, wait a minute, did we were 562 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,959 Speaker 2: we not supposed to mess with that? You're just fine? 563 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 2: Uh Yeah. So that definitely did kind of spike some activity. 564 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 2: I mean, that was one of those cases like if 565 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 2: people watch it on TV, that's great, but I don't 566 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 2: know that they we were able to kind of convey 567 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 2: just how much happened in forty three minutes on television. 568 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 2: That's one of the harder parts of being like doing 569 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 2: a televised investigation is you can't really get into it. 570 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 2: Like one of the most shocking moments for me was 571 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 2: when we arrived. You had a lot of trouble with 572 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 2: this attic entity you personally, and you were utterly terrified, 573 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 2: and we were going up the second floor to talk 574 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 2: about it, and I think we were trying to avoid 575 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 2: going in, but as soon as we got up there, 576 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 2: you were like visibly like nope, nope, I can feel him. 577 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 2: I can feel him, and like you knew he was there, 578 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 2: and we were like, how is this possible? And we 579 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 2: looked and someone like the crew or someone had left 580 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 2: the attic door open and you didn't know that, you 581 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 2: just felt him, which to me is one of the 582 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 2: most kind of wild moments that I've had during an 583 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 2: investigation that you were so in tune to this presence 584 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 2: you knew he was not in the attic at that point. 585 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 2: And so does do you think he moves around? Like 586 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 2: It's funny because when we close the door, he would, 587 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 2: but if you leave the door open, I felt like 588 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 2: he was kind of brave. Does he move around the house? 589 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 2: He does? 590 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 1: He does move around the house. There is something additional 591 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 1: up there. We're not exactly sure who he is, so 592 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: it's hard to tell when either one of them came 593 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 1: down which one it is. But yes, we do believe 594 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 1: that he does move around the house. And when he 595 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 1: does come down, he gets very close and I could 596 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 1: feel him because he almost. 597 00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 2: He touches me. 598 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 1: He's very touchy, very touchy feely. 599 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he enjoys that a little bit. And 600 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:09,799 Speaker 2: you know, and I is it's hard because you know 601 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 2: That's one of those things people ask, like, how do 602 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 2: you make someone like that move on? And how do 603 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 2: you make them leave? And uh, I wish, yeah, I 604 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 2: wish it was as simple as waving some sage and 605 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,959 Speaker 2: being like be gone. You know, Yeah, it doesn't work 606 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 2: that way. You just kind of have to stand your 607 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,760 Speaker 2: ground and try to kind of counteract them with different energy, 608 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:36,360 Speaker 2: which it sounds like you guys are. But so do 609 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 2: you think that was who that shadow was that you 610 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:39,439 Speaker 2: saw that night? 611 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 1: You know, I don't think so. And the only reason 612 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: being is I have never seen Gary. I've never seen 613 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:51,360 Speaker 1: him with my eyes. This one was very, very, very prominent. 614 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 1: So he made me weaken the knees. That's how much 615 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 1: you've garried me, right, I did not get the Gary feeling. 616 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:03,239 Speaker 1: Gary's almost I don't say that he's mischievous. 617 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 2: I don't think he's evil. I think he I think 618 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 2: him scaring me like. 619 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 1: He is entertained with that, right, And that's we're growing together, 620 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 1: him and I because he knows now at this point 621 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 1: that you know, he can be softy and I won't 622 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:21,240 Speaker 1: get one hundred percent scared. But yeah, this shadow entity 623 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 1: that was down there, he he definitely scared me to 624 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 1: the point of knowing that I think it would be 625 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 1: a little step further than what Gary would. 626 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 2: Do, right, I mean, there's just something to be said 627 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,919 Speaker 2: for the unknown in general. Like if you even saw 628 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 2: just a stranger, a live person, that would probably be scarier. 629 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 2: But like any like stranger standing there staring you down 630 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 2: in a dark foyer, Like, that's a scary moment, absolutely 631 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 2: you know, a shadow figure or not? 632 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 1: Absolutely? 633 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,840 Speaker 2: So, Now what about other just kind of things that 634 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 2: go on. I read a lot about lights going on 635 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 2: and off and doors opening and closing, Like are these 636 00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,360 Speaker 2: things you guys just deal with on the daily? 637 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,839 Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, yes. Sometimes we come in to open up 638 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 1: and we will find that artifacts have been moved. We 639 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 1: have an extensive alarm system, so it gets triggered from 640 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,240 Speaker 1: the inside all the time. Oh and there's nobody inside, 641 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 1: so we will find. A big one is jesse May's ball. 642 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 1: We have a plastic ball that lives under her bed 643 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,799 Speaker 1: and we use it for people who come to investigate 644 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 1: so they can bring it out. Sometimes we'll find that 645 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 1: out in the room. Sometimes we'll find the shoes that 646 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 1: are in the master's bedroom. They'll be moved to the 647 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,319 Speaker 1: middle of the room or move to a different area. 648 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:40,799 Speaker 1: So they're very they're very prominent there. They know that 649 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 1: they are the residents and it is their house, and 650 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 1: they pretty much do what they want. But yes, we'll 651 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 1: find lights on all the time, doors shut that weren't 652 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 1: shut before, things like that almost daily. 653 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 2: And now do you think that so I know that 654 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 2: the house kind of sat vacant for a while, and 655 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 2: do you think that coming in and kind of renovating 656 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 2: it and bringing all these things in, do you think 657 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 2: that that made them happy? Or I mean, I don't 658 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 2: know if you could even answer that question, but do 659 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 2: you think that that was kind of for the good 660 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 2: of them? Do you think they enjoy that? Yeah, if 661 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 2: I had to. 662 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,360 Speaker 1: Speculate, I would think that there are a good amount 663 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 1: of them that enjoyed that, because there are a handful 664 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 1: that seemed to enjoy just having people in the house. 665 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 1: I think the children are probably a big one on that. 666 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 1: They really seem to enjoy having a few of our 667 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 1: investigators in their one in particular, her name is Brooke. 668 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 1: But yeah, I feel like some of them it was 669 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:38,879 Speaker 1: for the better for them, and some of them are 670 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:39,800 Speaker 1: just grumpy altogether. 671 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's also a lot of speculation about 672 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 2: kind of unmarked graves on the property. Have you been 673 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,840 Speaker 2: able to kind of narrow down where those could be 674 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 2: or have you guys tried to find them in any way, 675 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:57,799 Speaker 2: we have tried to find them. 676 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,799 Speaker 1: At the time that they would have been buried, it 677 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 1: would have been one hundred and sixty acre parcel. So 678 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,799 Speaker 1: there's a very good chance that those graves, it would 679 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,880 Speaker 1: have been the little family plot for the May family. 680 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,479 Speaker 1: There's a very good chance that those graves are under 681 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 1: the street or under a local business, but we have 682 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 1: not been able to locate them yet. 683 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a tough one, you know. It's I live 684 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,880 Speaker 2: in a very old house, a three hundred year old house, 685 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 2: and there's a graveyard, a little cemetery family plot like 686 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,279 Speaker 2: kind of up in the front yard. And I imagine 687 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,759 Speaker 2: that if this place had not been saved by a 688 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:40,880 Speaker 2: local nonprofit, that entire family would probably be under someone's 689 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:41,799 Speaker 2: house at this point. 690 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. 691 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard to imagine, but you know, that's just 692 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 2: how they did things. Then there's I mean, especially where 693 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,400 Speaker 2: we where you are is very historic. Where I am 694 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 2: in New England's very historic, and it's so I grew 695 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 2: up in California, where this didn't really happen. I mean, 696 00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,719 Speaker 2: obviously we had some like gold Rush era graves here 697 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 2: and there, but like the fact that there were so 698 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 2: many family plots back then, it didn't really occur to 699 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 2: me how common that was until I started coming to 700 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 2: New England and going to the South a lot. Oh yes, definitely. 701 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,239 Speaker 2: Now have you has anyone ever just kind of had 702 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,400 Speaker 2: enough of the house and had to leave other than you, 703 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 2: which you are destly a success story. That's why I 704 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 2: love that you're like comfortable in the space because I 705 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,880 Speaker 2: felt so bad for you when I first met you. 706 00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,279 Speaker 2: And I've met a few people like that where I'm like, 707 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,320 Speaker 2: oh my gosh, this is I need them to be 708 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 2: able to go to work or be in their house 709 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:41,760 Speaker 2: and not be afraid. So yeah, but anyway, has anyone 710 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,799 Speaker 2: kind of just had had to leave, had enough, never 711 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:45,479 Speaker 2: coming back. 712 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 1: We have not had jocents per se that will do that. 713 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 1: But I have had two separate touring groups who who 714 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:55,359 Speaker 1: did leave. 715 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:56,399 Speaker 2: They didn't finish the tour. 716 00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,200 Speaker 3: One of them was present with me in the attic 717 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,879 Speaker 3: when my picked up, and I couldn't feel it because 718 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 3: it was an a bonytail that freaked them out to 719 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 3: the point where they did not finish the tour. 720 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:09,240 Speaker 2: And then a second guest. 721 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,319 Speaker 1: It was just her and I, and she was very 722 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 1: gung ho about hearing the spirits, and it was a 723 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,799 Speaker 1: history tour, so I was like, hey, listen, sister, let's 724 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,320 Speaker 1: not just it's just you and me, so let's yeah, 725 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 1: let's not call THEEF guys up. But we were up 726 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 1: on the step and floor landing and she was a 727 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 1: little disappointed that she had not had an experience. And 728 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 1: as she was telling me this, we heard a whistle 729 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,279 Speaker 1: plan as day, right behind her. Both of us jumped 730 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,879 Speaker 1: and she took off towards the stairs. So of course 731 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 1: I went behind her because we don't want to fall 732 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,520 Speaker 1: down those old stairs. No, and she did end up 733 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 1: leaving that day as well. 734 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:48,160 Speaker 2: I always wonder why they choose to whistle, like I 735 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 2: have encountered many a whistling ghost, and I, first of all, 736 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 2: I can barely understand how they can make voice like 737 00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:01,320 Speaker 2: a disembodied voice. How that can happen. Whistle is especially 738 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 2: kind of uh. It makes no sense to me how 739 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:08,879 Speaker 2: they do it, but they do, and so that's that's interesting. Yeah, 740 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:12,520 Speaker 2: I think sometimes say people that you know, be careful 741 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,719 Speaker 2: what you wish for, ye know exactly. She's just kind 742 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 2: of the perfect example of that. So well, I mean, 743 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 2: as always, I'm sorry I slag my Dower as always. Uh, 744 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,080 Speaker 2: I mean, you guys have just a ton of activity. 745 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,920 Speaker 2: It's it's kind of out of the way Brooksville, Florida. 746 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,799 Speaker 2: You know, it's not a place that I think a 747 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,600 Speaker 2: lot of people were familiar with until they saw this house, 748 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 2: this gorgeous home with all this crazy history. So if 749 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,799 Speaker 2: people do want to visit, like, what do they have 750 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 2: to do? 751 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,840 Speaker 1: Well, there are no reservations needed during the day for 752 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 1: the history tour right now. For the ghost tour, we're 753 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,279 Speaker 1: booked out well into next year, so that takes a 754 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,959 Speaker 1: little bit. But just come on down during our open 755 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,319 Speaker 1: hours and we will give you a tour. The day 756 00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 1: tour is totally totally guided by one of our docents, 757 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:02,640 Speaker 1: and it's a really good time. 758 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:06,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, there's a lot to see. I really 759 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,760 Speaker 2: enjoyed my time there, and you guys are all lovely. 760 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,839 Speaker 2: I love the care that you all have for that 761 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 2: house and how well you kind of look over your 762 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,440 Speaker 2: ghosts and your artifacts and make sure the history is 763 00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:21,239 Speaker 2: told so well done. Thank you so much. We just 764 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:25,000 Speaker 2: love it. Well. Thank you for chatting, and hopefully I 765 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,360 Speaker 2: will come visit you guys again soon. It's definitely on 766 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,279 Speaker 2: the list of one of my places I want to 767 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,799 Speaker 2: return to sooner rather than later. So a film, yeah, 768 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:34,839 Speaker 2: just let me know. On there all the time, all right, 769 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:36,520 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Autumn. I appreciate it. 770 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:37,880 Speaker 1: Oh, you are welcome. 771 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:47,239 Speaker 2: The main Stringer House is such a complicated haunting, one 772 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:51,400 Speaker 2: that has to be handled delicately and with utmost respect. 773 00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,279 Speaker 2: It's strange to look at a beautiful mansion and think 774 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:58,720 Speaker 2: about all the darkness it has seen. Everything that happened 775 00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:04,239 Speaker 2: inside its walls wonderful and terrible. But how fortunate are we, 776 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,719 Speaker 2: as lovers of history and those with the longing to 777 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:12,960 Speaker 2: never repeat it that those walls quite literally talk. I 778 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:18,440 Speaker 2: suppose it's up to us to listen and learn. I 779 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:22,680 Speaker 2: Amy Bruney and this was Haunted Road. 780 00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,760 Speaker 4: Haunted Road is hosted and written by me Amy Bruney, 781 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,800 Speaker 4: with additional research by Taylor Haggerdorn and Cassandra de Alba. 782 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,680 Speaker 4: This show is edited and produced by rema El Kali, 783 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:42,200 Speaker 4: with supervising producer Josh Thain and executive producers Aaron Manke, 784 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 4: Alex Williams, and Matt Frederick. Haunted Road is a production 785 00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:50,120 Speaker 4: of iHeartRadio and Grim and Mild from Aaron Manky. 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