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It's the show 27 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: that she has the secrets of success experience firsthand by 28 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: marketing a Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I will know he's 29 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: given me advice on many occasions. In the case you 30 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: didn't notice, I'm not broke, you know he'll be interviewing 31 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: celebrity CEO, entrepreneurs and industry decision make because it's what 32 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: he likes to do, it's what he likes to share. 33 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: Now it's time to hear from my man, Rashan McDon 34 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: money Making Conversations. Here we go. Welcome to Money Making Conversation. 35 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: I am your host, Rashan McDonald. Like I tell everybody 36 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: every week, it's time to stop reading other people's success 37 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: stories and actually start writing your own. And I always 38 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: tell people to leave with your gifts. Here people talk 39 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: about their gifts and talk about their passions. Well, stop 40 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: talking about it, lead with it, and don't let your age, friends, family, 41 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: or coworkers stop you from planning or living your dreams. 42 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: My interviews I bring on money making conversations are for you. 43 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: I give you access to celebrity ceo, entrepreneurs, and what 44 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: I like to call industry decision makers. My next guest 45 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: is a dear friend, Bill Duke. Bill Duke is an 46 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: actor director of producing Hollywood. More than forty years of 47 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: experience on screen and behind the camera. Duke has currently 48 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: started in Steven Sarderbergh's new crime drama No Sudden Mood, 49 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: Debating July one on HBO Max, which I do have 50 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: that I will be watching him July one. His acting 51 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,239 Speaker 1: credits include reaching television and feature film roles and shows 52 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: like Black Lightning, I Love More Black Lightning, That's my 53 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: crew over there, The Oval, and the critically acclaimed film Mandy, 54 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,959 Speaker 1: and other movies like High Flying Bird. He also known 55 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: for roles and Predator. Y'all remember Predator. I've been Predator 56 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: now you know. I couldn't see nothing American jigging old 57 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 1: car car was come on Now Action Jackson Command though, 58 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: who ministers to side board ministers board that was hard, 59 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: that bird on the Y, Get Rich or Die, Tried, 60 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: X Man three, and many more film and TV projects. 61 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: He's on the show to talk about the movie which 62 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:31,679 Speaker 1: we had just said, Southern No Southern Move, the Duke 63 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: Media Foundation, which I really want to talk about, and 64 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: you unite network please working the money making conversation again. 65 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: He is a Sigma by trade. My man, Bill do 66 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: was good to see you, Bill. Dude, Bill, look, you 67 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: know what men you we junk off air because I 68 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: remember making side five and I always tell people this 69 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: mall on the real I tell people I pledged while 70 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: I was in college and it changed my life. It 71 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: changed my life and fraternitis in general. I talked about 72 00:03:59,920 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: for Turn Together. It's easy to signals. You're gonna pointed 73 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: signal like I can't see blue and white. But I 74 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: always tell people because a lot of people think that 75 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: fraternity row is about party and it's about it's about 76 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: having a good time, but really being in a fraternity 77 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: changed my perspective, gave me a clear understanding of the community, 78 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: and I just wanted to bring that up because you know, 79 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: we both are passionate about our fraternities and uh and 80 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 1: we always are telling people the value of fraternity. Talk 81 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 1: about being a member of the sigment of your of 82 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: your organization. For a second, Well, first of all, it's 83 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: a it's a very happy to be a part of it. 84 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 1: And as you say, many many people think about fraternities 85 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: as party. You know, people party from time to time, 86 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: but that's not the foundation of it. The foundation of 87 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: is a collaboration of brothers coming together to really discuss 88 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: and take action on issues that we face as a 89 00:04:56,600 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 1: culture in our community, from business to whatever politics. But 90 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: to have a discussion and we don't have to agree 91 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: on everything, but ye mutual respect for each other and 92 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: the fact that we can honestly say what we feel 93 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: without being judged, you know. And that's that's those those 94 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: statements that you say, I echo those statements, but in 95 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: because of again, you know, gives you a sense of balance. 96 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: And that's why I say, you know, when you want 97 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: to go out in the community, because you know, even 98 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: though you're an actor, your director, you produce many projects, 99 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: it's about your brand, and your brand is entertainment and 100 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: in entertainment it does allow you to capture people's attention. 101 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: And when you capture people attention, that can allow you 102 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: to go And I don't shape their minds, shape their experiences. 103 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 1: And I know we're gonta show to talk about. You know, 104 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: the movie that you're starting in the July first is 105 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: gonna be on HBO Max. But Bill, do when you 106 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: talk about your Deep Duke Media Foundation, tell us why 107 00:05:55,400 --> 00:06:00,040 Speaker 1: it's important and why did you started? Well, it's the 108 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: same reason I thought of my network. We our generations, 109 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: I think, have an obligation to leave something for our 110 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: children that is better than what we inherited and what 111 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: we are in today. We are in a day of 112 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: the vision um, from the COVID two politics to race um. 113 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 1: What are we leaving our children? And that is the 114 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 1: real question, because we have to leave them something that 115 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: gives them hope. And so I created my foundation. We 116 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: teach basically two things, media literacy for young people are 117 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: coming into the business and really want to understand with 118 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: the business of the industry really is and how it's changing. 119 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: You went from film and television to media when I 120 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 1: when I came up, and I say this all the time, 121 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 1: I had one of the first cell phones and I 122 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: think you did too, my brother. Remember the size of 123 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: it absolute, come on, come on? Am I exaggerating? I'm 124 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: holding next to my head. I had it used to 125 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: hangs and it had a box with re Remember the 126 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: boxing that was. That was like our first purse. Remember 127 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: it looked like a purse. They had to strap on shoulder. 128 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: You had to hold of day like a metal detector. Really, 129 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: and we thought we were cool man. We felt we 130 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: were the stuff right well. And there was no internet then, 131 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: And so I try to talk to him about the 132 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: evolution of things with young people from those times to 133 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: what they have now and how they can leverage it 134 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: to their benefit of their brands, not just being an 135 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: actor or director, but what do you believe in? What 136 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: is your brand? And how are you gonna fight for it? 137 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: Learn the technology, learned the disciplines that go along with that. 138 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: So we teach them financial literacy. Um, and we'll talk 139 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: about today, I'm sure. 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We know that the beauty of knowledge, 184 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: and that's what you're teaching to knowledge because without knowledge, 185 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: that you became to be either go backwards or your 186 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:04,839 Speaker 1: main station area. And that was always impacts the black 187 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:08,319 Speaker 1: community because we're always battling the fighting for education and 188 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: we're always battling the fight for an opportunity. Same thing 189 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: happened with the COVID nineteen when it hit. Who did 190 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: the effect African Americans and people of color? Why at 191 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: least educated? Uh, We're living in living conditions with mass 192 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:25,199 Speaker 1: transit situations and also naturally poor dieting situations, and so 193 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,599 Speaker 1: then that becomes why is that important? And why is 194 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: it important to note where the bank account is wise? 195 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: It't know what percentages are wise, you know, if you're 196 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 1: in the district, there's gonna you know, do unfair housing 197 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: on you. You know, we continually can't get ahead because 198 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: we're spending a different dollar. And that's what you're trying 199 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 1: to say right now in this interview, correct Bill, do yes, sir. 200 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: I'm trying to get us to understand what money is 201 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: and how we can use it to our benefit. And 202 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: that's what we teach the young people in our foundation. 203 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,559 Speaker 1: Because if I'm just saying we as a culture to 204 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 1: do it, the cells we can't depend upon others doing 205 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: it for us, and so the men and women in 206 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: our community have to pass on what we've learned from 207 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 1: our mistakes so that our young people don't make the 208 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: same mistakes. You know, I when you know, when I 209 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: look through my life, you know, I would say that 210 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: I have made mistakes, but I don't know if they 211 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,599 Speaker 1: are mistakes or the experiences. Because if you learn from it, 212 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 1: then it's not a mistake. But you continue to make 213 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: the same mistake, then there's a problem because you didn't learn. 214 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: And so I've advanced myself called politics. Politics, it's called 215 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: that's called being able to to to to negotiate the 216 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 1: right situation because you know yourself, Bill, your your career 217 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: has been tied to relationships. Your career has been tied 218 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: to people extending their hand, either by surprise or one 219 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: that you may sure you was in the position to shake. 220 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: And that's what also in the financial world that you're 221 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 1: teaching that you have to let black people understand and 222 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 1: that I'll talk about it all the time. We can 223 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,839 Speaker 1: talk a little Hollywood talk. It's like I've been in 224 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 1: Hollywood since n two. Okay, first writing job, I did 225 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: stand up comic pride to that. And I just always 226 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: see these white producers go on meetings while they were working. 227 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: They have a writer job, they go looking for another 228 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,719 Speaker 1: job establish the relationships. We don't think like that. And 229 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: if they got terminated or the contract they get to 230 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:27,959 Speaker 1: extent they shook their hands that thank you for the 231 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: opportunity and said the traditionally African American people of color 232 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:37,199 Speaker 1: get mad, frustrated, pointing fingers. Okay, guess what you're blowing 233 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: that relationship. The relationship is that things don't always go 234 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: the way you play. Act like it. Okay, understand the 235 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: value of your money. Am I wrong in these assessments 236 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: that I'm making the build? Do you are brilliantly putting 237 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:56,319 Speaker 1: it together? Um? Malcolm X said something. He said two 238 00:13:56,440 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: things that I learned a lot from. First he said, 239 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: don't be playing checkers in the chess game. And number two, 240 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: he said, no matter how good a football player you are, 241 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:14,439 Speaker 1: at the name of the game is baseball. You but 242 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: to get yourself a damn back, absolutely, because your competition 243 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: is gonna say you're a good You're a good, good, 244 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: good little football player. Keep running them out of that basics. 245 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: You're good, right, right, and they were they were they 246 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: hitting home runs with bats. We have to be again 247 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: to understand the game, how it's played, what the rules are. 248 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: We can make our own game also, but the fact 249 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: of the matter is is that we have to study 250 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: the knowledgeable, take the time to learn and understand the business. 251 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: You know, uh, I know you're on my show here today. 252 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: Money makes Bill Duke talk about no sudden mood just 253 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: debate in July one on hb OLD Actually you know 254 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: the brilliant producer, director Stephen Salderberg. But prior to all 255 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: going on the air, you mentioned the word bid with 256 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: you know, like like that, like did did you not 257 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: mention that to me? Yes? I mentioned with uh. And 258 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: and they send people to Boston on trains when they lose. 259 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: And when people play me, they learn from me. I teach, 260 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: So so you know, anytime you're ready, I'm gonna teach. 261 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: I love my young students. Anytime let me know. Okay, 262 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: I'll fly it Bill. What you're gonna do with me? Man, 263 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: see what you are doing, fly me in, whoop my butt, 264 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: and then fly me back. And that didn't happen like 265 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: that because that gives you more smack brown. Okay, I'm 266 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: gonna fly myself. And you see, people don't know Bill 267 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: like I know Bill. They just see that little dark character. 268 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: You know, sinister, you know, don't ever smile you walking around. 269 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: He might shoot you, knife you, you know, to send 270 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: you to hell burn. That's the Bill, y'all know, or 271 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: moving to TV. This the Bill I know right here? 272 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: You know Smack talk off a laughing all the time. 273 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: Uh go go tell me. I come from filth war 274 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: in Texas. I grew up with nuneber black people. He 275 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: gonna ask me off. Have you ever heard of Bill 276 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: with just only asking me to have no dominoes? See, 277 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: you can't insult me like that, no mobile, dude. Men, 278 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: You're gonna have problems personally. I'm just I'm I was 279 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: just exploring, you know, I was asking you a question 280 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: of right right right? But he was a brother brother 281 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: the brother right there was the brother of the brother conversation. Okay, cool, okay. 282 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: I just had to bring that up in the middle 283 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: of this very important interview about our relationship. And it's 284 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: still intact, it's still strong, and we'll keep winning. Now 285 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: we're gathered here today to join Mike and Jail and 286 00:16:56,520 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: Holy matrimony so they may file jointly this TA season 287 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: and you are April from Tax Act. The tax filing 288 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: software with the expert guidance to help you file for 289 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 1: less and get more works for me. So, Mike, do 290 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 1: you take this woman to love honor and get her 291 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: a maximum refund? I do Jill now pronounce you married? 292 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: Filing jointly, I always cry at filing status updates. Switched 293 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 1: to Tax Act today and start for free striction supply 294 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: prices at filing subject to James the Tax Act dot 295 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 1: comfer details. Hi everyone, i'l roker here as a guy 296 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: with his own catchphrase. I appreciate that Smokey's only said 297 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 1: only you can prevent wildfires, but I'm filling in because 298 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: there's a lot more to report, like when they're parched 299 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: or windy conditions out there. You gotta be extra careful 300 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:43,239 Speaker 1: with things like burning yard waist. After all, wildfires can 301 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: start anywhere, even in your neck of the woods. Go 302 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: to Smokey Bear dot com to learn more about wildfire 303 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 1: prevention brought to you by the U. S. Forest Service, 304 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 1: your state Forrester, and the ad Council. And we're live 305 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: here outside the Perez family home, just waiting for the 306 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,880 Speaker 1: and there they go, almost on time. This morning, Mom 307 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 1: is coming out the front door, strong with a double 308 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: arm kid carry. Looks like Dad has the bags. Daughter 309 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: is bringing up the rear. Oh but the diaper bag 310 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 1: wasn't closed. Diapers and toys are everywhere. Oh but mom 311 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: has just nailed the perfect car seat buckle for the toddler. 312 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: And now the eldest daughter, who looks to be about 313 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: nine or ten, has secured herself in the booster seat. 314 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 1: Dad zips the bag clothes and they're off. But looks 315 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: like Mom doesn't realize her coffee cup is still on 316 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: the roof of the car and there it goes. Oh, 317 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: that's a shame that mug was a fan favorite. Don't 318 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: sweat the small stuff. Just nailed the big stuff, like 319 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 1: making sure your kids are buckled correctly in the right 320 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 1: seat for their agent's eyes. Learn more n h t 321 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 1: s A dot gov slash the Right Seat visits n 322 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 1: h s A dot gov slash the Right Seat brought 323 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 1: to you by Mizza and the ad Council. Let's get 324 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 1: back to the movie. That's why you brought don che 325 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 1: didn't they I see what talk to you? I know 326 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: straight up gonna be serious. Talk about the movie. Talk 327 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: about your involvement. You work with Stephen before and other 328 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:11,479 Speaker 1: movie projects, so it's a relationship there. Talk about your 329 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: involvement in this movie. First of all, I'm wanna thank 330 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: Stephen for putting me in the movie. I've worked with 331 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 1: him mom, you know, the Lining High Flying Bird, and 332 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: this is my third film. Working with him and working 333 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: with Matt Damon and Don Schetto was a blessing, a 334 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: gift with a great time. Don Cheto, as you said, 335 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: serious films, but he is one of on set, one 336 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: of the funniest people I've ever met in my life. 337 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 1: He has an incredible sense of humor, a great heart, 338 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: just great people, you know, and making the movie. We're 339 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 1: in Detroit. By the way, I said this before, Detroit 340 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: is changing. I mean they're really cleaning the city up. 341 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 1: They're restoring the old, like, you know, the older historical 342 00:19:56,280 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 1: buildings like churches, et cetera. And it was great to 343 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,959 Speaker 1: see the city come back to life and then move 344 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: beyond that. It's like really some good things absolutely besides 345 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: great food. Now we just said Don Cheetle and Matt 346 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: David got really older than there. John Hamm Brendan Fraser, 347 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 1: David Arbor. But you see what their toro? Come on now, man, 348 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: that's a who's who, A great acting a lot of people. 349 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: And you know when you're get in the room like 350 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: that build because you know it's all like a good 351 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: basketball team. You know, you could you see all these 352 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 1: good basketball players. You want to make sure your free 353 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: throws are right, your job shot right, you're grabbing the rebound. 354 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 1: How do you approach that when you're in the scene 355 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 1: with talented other people? Does A does a I gotta 356 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: get my act together, I gotta make sure I'm on porn? 357 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 1: Or do you do? You do? You do? You talk 358 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,239 Speaker 1: to him? But prior to a scene, how does want 359 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: to approach that? If you're a young person breaking into 360 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 1: the business, Well, if you're a young person making into 361 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: the business, it's called show business. Business part is about 362 00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 1: relationships and so used to put your you know, Wayne 363 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: Dyre says, every day we have one of two choices. 364 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 1: If we can be a host to God or a 365 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 1: hostage to our ego. Uh in this business, if you're 366 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: hostage to your egos, some people get away with it, 367 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: But for us as a culture, I think that's a 368 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: bad idea. I think establishing relationships, uh, and honing your craft, 369 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: because acting directing a craft, so it's writing le other 370 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: people are out partying, you should be home studying, learning 371 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: because when you party, you've accomplished something that's called the celebration. 372 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: So the thing is is that we have to really 373 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: start taking it seriously. Today we're saying before life came 374 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: into business, there was no internet, there was no social media. 375 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 1: Young people today, Yeah, pictures are important. But if you're 376 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: an acting class that you all should be in it, 377 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: and you're working on two or three scenes with other 378 00:21:55,920 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: actors for the class, then what you should do is 379 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: if you want to picture plus a reel film with 380 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 1: your cell phone the scene that you're rehearsing, right, you 381 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 1: can cut that scene on your computer right and edit 382 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: so you don't have to wait to be discovered. You 383 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: can you can discover your look a look at Easter 384 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: for example, she started off with like you know, podcast 385 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 1: and a web series that's well wepisodes and so did 386 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: uh it's always sending in Philadelphia start off with webisodes, 387 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 1: been on the air for nine years, so those people 388 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 1: they stopped waiting to make any sense absolutely well. I 389 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: think that when you when you look at about a 390 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 1: lot of people do wait too long? They want that 391 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: that I always tell people wait on a lottery. You 392 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: know they were doing that opportunity. They really do. Think 393 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 1: it works in Hollywood. You're gonna walk down the street 394 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: and somebody gonna tap you on the shoulder. That is 395 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 1: not high work. That's you may have heard that story, 396 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 1: but that's what that's what that's like winning a lottery. 397 00:22:56,080 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 1: There are people who tapping on the shoulder. Know that, 398 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: you know who's going to tapping on the shoulder person 399 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: to tell you get out the way because they want 400 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 1: to get in front of you. Yeah, absolutely that gets 401 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,400 Speaker 1: tapped a lot That's a lot of people understand about entertainment, 402 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: you know, because you know this for a factor are 403 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,400 Speaker 1: going in in in a movie like this. And let's 404 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: give you a little bit more background on No Sudden Mood. 405 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: It's a British story which takes place in nineteen fifty 406 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: four and the racially charged Detroit. And we know Detroit 407 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 1: has always been a community where where where the police 408 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 1: has an issue it was black you know moretown. Was 409 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: there a group of small time criminals who are hired 410 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 1: on the mysterious circumstances to steal what they think is 411 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: a simple document. They file up the master plan and 412 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: guess what it all goes as they say, to hell 413 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 1: and you include all these situations. So you have black 414 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: people and white people try to work together in nineteen 415 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 1: fifty four. Right there, that tells you it's gonna be 416 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 1: intense because you know, you dealing with high levels of 417 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 1: racial prejudice. And also a black people just came around 418 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: like white people came back then. It's right, So how 419 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 1: does what role do you play in all of this? 420 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: Bill Douke, Well, you you so brilliantly and accurately described 421 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: the conditions of the time. Uh and um. In those days, 422 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: you had confrontations based upon race and social positions. So 423 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: if you were black, you had to be able, as 424 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 1: I said before, to be able to play chess in 425 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: the chess games. So if they you know, had negotiators 426 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 1: with them, you have to negotiate. If the negotiations didn't 427 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 1: go well and they had guns, you had to have guns. 428 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: So you know, you you could not negotiate with with 429 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 1: someone who felt you were weak and unprepared. The only 430 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: way you could negotiate with them, it's to look him 431 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: in the eye and they understood the consequences of disrespecting you. Hm. 432 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: So I played the head of the Black Game and 433 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 1: we negotiate over some issues that I don't want to 434 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:18,479 Speaker 1: give away. Now give a movie away, but we are 435 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: negotiators and they don't expect us to be that and 436 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: they're surprised by it, but they do negotiate with us. Now, 437 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: let let me know when you look at movies, because 438 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 1: we've seen how covid has changed the game, and also 439 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: streaming networks Netflix, Amazon, you know, Hulu, Disney Plus have 440 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: changed the game. They opened in movies that were opening 441 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: the theater, opening online and streaming and all they're doing 442 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:46,880 Speaker 1: the simul simulcast. They simulcastically, they like they were Cruella 443 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: Crewella opening in the theater as well as our Disney 444 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: Plus and in the premium network. Have you seen a 445 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: change in the quality or it doesn't matter. They still 446 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: producing the high quality movies even for streaming as well 447 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 1: as for the big theaters. Some of them are high 448 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,239 Speaker 1: quality and some of them are not. Some people are 449 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: giving cameras to make movies and they they've never studied directing, 450 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 1: they've never studied writing or anything. Because of relationship they 451 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 1: have with a relative, somebody who has money. But I 452 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: I I still believe in people who take the time 453 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: to study their discipline. But I'm not gonna say it's easy. 454 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: It's not. But you have to know, you know, you 455 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 1: have to read books. You know you have to you know, 456 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: you you have to be able to understand structure, not 457 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: only the structure of the movie, but what is character structure? 458 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: You know, what is the beginning, middle, and end of 459 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 1: a movie? What is the storyline? What is the character line? 460 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: How do you hook people in emotionally to what you're 461 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: talking about? Those are crafts and skills that should be studied, 462 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: you know. And there are books at schools you can 463 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: go to. UM. You know that. You know that. One 464 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 1: of the great books Joseph Campbell's a Hero with a 465 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:12,199 Speaker 1: Thousand Faces. Even Steelberg, all those people use a hero 466 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: of a thousand faces, and so do I. Another great 467 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: book is a Machili The Five Season Cinematography. It's another 468 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: It's another great book, you know. UM. Another great UH 469 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 1: book is you know, Sun Super Wrothy Art of War. 470 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: The The The War of Art is another great book. 471 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: Talks about how we procrastinate and Nick excuses for not 472 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 1: doing what we know we should be doing, and what 473 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,919 Speaker 1: are the patterns of that and how to get out 474 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,719 Speaker 1: of that. So studying our craft, studying things. I think 475 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 1: it's very important for young people of company. Uh No 476 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,880 Speaker 1: sudden moves of talking to Bill Duke about the movie 477 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 1: that premiers July one on HBO Max. Uh it's a 478 00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 1: great movie. We said in nineteen fifty four. It's about 479 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 1: black people white people. You know they will know of 480 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 1: video phones back there. You know, police violence still existed. 481 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,479 Speaker 1: It has existed all our lives as an African American. 482 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 1: We know that. But when you look at what you've done. 483 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 1: I talked about the Duke Media Foundation. I talked about that, 484 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 1: but I always want to ship before we get off 485 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 1: the air and talk about you unite Unite network that 486 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 1: I believe starts July twenty one, but you say there's 487 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: up and running June Tent. Talk about the purpose of 488 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 1: that and why the importance of the Unite network. That's 489 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: why unite. First of all, you will have the the 490 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 1: page of the um of our of our efforts up 491 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: in the mount June Tent, and in the first week 492 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: in July we will have a really serious soft launch. 493 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 1: And I'm putting a network together because I have children 494 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: in my life. I have a god daughter, I have 495 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: children that I love, god son sons, and I think 496 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 1: we have responsibility to leave them something called hope. Right now, 497 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: when you turn the news on, it's all bad. I mean, 498 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 1: we're being divided in ways that We've always been a 499 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: divided country racially et such a but now taking a 500 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: whole other level with the COVID, with racism, with the 501 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: politics we're being divided in. Division is only going to 502 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: leave chaos for our children. So I in my network 503 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: instead of the bad news on the negativity, but we 504 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: report are all the good things that are happening in 505 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: this world. There are people around the world that are 506 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: doing great. There's a program and I wish people watch 507 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 1: it once a year on CNN called CNN Heroes. If 508 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 1: you're it's a show about individuals who are doing good 509 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: and that's what should be reported. So I have a 510 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 1: network that really is devoted to leave hope for our children, 511 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: to give them a historical context of all the sacrifices 512 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: that have been made so they could be here today 513 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 1: and do what they do. And so we have a 514 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: number of different programs on the network. I have the 515 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: support from people that Anthony Anderson, centric, the Entertainer Um, 516 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 1: a lot of good folks, and so we're launching it 517 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: and hope people check it out. Well, you know that 518 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: uh you know that was that was a cue and 519 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: a cap of right there. You know that with no 520 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 1: stigma and the sigmas happened you out and you're nearly 521 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you know that was some other fraternity 522 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: members there that that you just mentioned that, Mr Bill, 523 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: do you know just let you know that you know 524 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 1: there are some sigmas that okay, okay, but you just 525 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: didn't mention them there though, Bill. You didn't mention him though, Bill, No, 526 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, I'm just saying, told her respect. 527 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: I understand your pope position, very told position. Position that 528 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 1: are that are good. I love you, man, I love 529 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,719 Speaker 1: it man kid to laugh, first Man, HBO, Max Uh, 530 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: Steve Soderberg, casting, the amazing cast, Don Cheetle, Matt Damon, 531 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 1: Ray Leona, John Hambern, the Fraser and most important Nicio 532 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: del Toro, most important my man Bill to do back 533 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: on the screen, big screen, small screen. I love him always, man, 534 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: because that smiles amazing this personalities dynamic and I will 535 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 1: be flying myself into Los Angeles cally to beat you 536 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 1: and being with young man hear me on that. Okay, 537 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: guess what, sir, I'm gonna send you a bus to 538 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 1: bus from l A. I love you man. You still strong, 539 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 1: Bill Duke. Okay, thank you so much. Man, I appreciate it. 540 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 1: We talked soon. If you want to hear see any 541 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 1: of my incredibly funny or entertaining interviews with people like Bill, 542 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: do please go to Money Man comes from laughing so 543 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 1: much Money and Conversation dot com. 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