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Speaker 1: that's when all bets are off. Welcome to Money Making

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Speaker 1: Conversation master Class. I'm your host, Rashaan McDonald. Our theme

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Speaker 1: is there's no perfect time to start following your dreams.

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Speaker 1: I recognize that we all have different definitions of success.

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Speaker 1: For you and maybe decide to your HM, it's time

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Speaker 1: I just Rashond McDonald welcomed the Money Making Conversation master

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Speaker 1: Class last week. I was just talking about age. I

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Speaker 1: was talking about people who didn't believe there was a

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Speaker 1: you know, because the system told me I was supposed

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out where long in the process

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Speaker 1: dying at sixty three So guess what, So security works.

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Speaker 1: So security works, well, it does not work because what

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Speaker 1: that's why you always hear these politicians talking about we

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Speaker 1: gotta change the system. We gotta change the system. Systems

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Speaker 1: I'm not going anywhere. So when I tell people, do

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Speaker 1: you facts. If you're sitting around here talking about I'm

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Speaker 1: too old to work, you in trouble. You in trouble.

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Speaker 1: If you sitting around talking about that you don't want

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Speaker 2: You in trouble.

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Speaker 1: You're because the government is not designed to let you

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Speaker 1: maintain a lifestyle that you're going to be happy with,

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Speaker 1: don't have a spouse that's working, because guess what, I

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Speaker 1: a great life. And you should live a great life too,

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Speaker 1: because guess what, there's nothing wrong with double income in

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Speaker 1: this life. Because you listening to Money Making Conversation master Class.

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Speaker 1: I'm Rushan MacDonald. As you know, I host the weekly

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Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations Master Class show. The interviews and information

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Speaker 1: My guest is a former NBA and NFL agent. I

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Speaker 1: love this guy. He's an attorney in Charlotte, North Carolina.

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Speaker 1: If you've never been to Charlotte, great food in that city.

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Speaker 1: He is handling a litigated personal entry and the author

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Speaker 1: of a very popular novel, Dark Matters. Let me tell

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Speaker 1: you why I've read this book. What what? What is

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Speaker 1: Dark Matters? What if the South had won the Civil War?

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Speaker 1: Conversations Master Class. Attorney Ken Harris.

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Speaker 3: Sean, how were you doing, my friend, Ken?

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Speaker 2: How did you? Okay? Now you're busy. We're gonna get

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Speaker 1: But I got to I got to jump in this

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Speaker 2: What if the South just give me a dark trade? Excuse me?

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Speaker 1: Uh, I apologize dark trades? What if the South had

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Speaker 3: You know, Rashaan, as you know, I have a long

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Speaker 3: You know, my mentor is my big brother, Urban Magic Johnson.

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Speaker 3: And I always thought, hey, do you know how close

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Speaker 3: And if it still existed, would there be something inside

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Speaker 3: We're in Baltimore, and the story is about a slave

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Speaker 1: If you if you go see the Battle of Gettysburg,

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Speaker 1: A couple of little mistakes, a couple of level degrees

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Speaker 3: It was so close to the South winning the Civil War.

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Speaker 3: It could have happened. The book Dark Trades assumes that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because you really it does. It's everything's a timeline.

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Speaker 1: So wow, we're talking to Attorney Ken Harris. He's based

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Speaker 1: Got to talk to you about this because you know

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Speaker 3: No, that's true. And the problem is you could.

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Speaker 1: My guess Attorney Ken Harris is probably one of the

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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan. We all know Michael Jorge, a billionaire, billionaire.

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Speaker 2: Every Magic Johnson.

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Speaker 1: We all know here, bellion There, Bellionaire, other notables in

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Speaker 3: You know that's why I love and respect you so much,

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Speaker 3: But you know the key for me, and I'm glad

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Speaker 3: Many people don't know Rushan that mister Knowles was a

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Speaker 1: Let me just tell you everybody something about Magic Johnson.

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Speaker 1: Attorney Ken Harrison, back this up. I've never seen the

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Speaker 1: It has nothing to do with security, and it's a

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Speaker 1: And that's the type of thing that you're referencing these individuals,

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Speaker 3: Man. I'm ready for it, man, and we can talk

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Speaker 3: did give this is one secret about Magic jumps. Yes, sir,

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Speaker 3: I believe that is one of his secrets.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I believe that.

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Speaker 1: I believe that. And like I tell, I've seen him

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Speaker 1: I always tell this thing to everybody about Magic. John's

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Speaker 2: But I want to just tell.

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Speaker 1: You, Attorney Ken Harris, thank you for coming on Money

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