WEBVTT - Executive Disorder: White House Weekly #38

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<v Speaker 1>Also media, Welcome back to a jacktoral dysfunction.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, that's the worst one yet. That's the worst one yet. Folks,

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<v Speaker 2>we did not think it could get worse, and yet

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<v Speaker 2>here we are.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew it could get.

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<v Speaker 3>Worse and always get worse.

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<v Speaker 2>Old quitting my jobs today, This is it could happen here.

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<v Speaker 2>Executive Disorder, our weekly newscast covering what's happening in the

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<v Speaker 2>White House, the crumbling world, and what it means for you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Garrison Davis today, joined by Ejaculator in Jesus right.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, garis Garrison. That's much worse. You made it way worse.

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<v Speaker 2>How many of those videos have you not watched?

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<v Speaker 1>Get I think we're all pretty behind on the required trainings.

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<v Speaker 3>Labor conditions are intolerable.

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<v Speaker 2>Robert Evans, James Stout, and Mio Wong. This episode, we

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<v Speaker 2>are covering the week of October fifteenth to October twenty second,

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<v Speaker 2>and a little bit of the week before because we

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<v Speaker 2>were off in honor of the government shutdown. We ourselves

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<v Speaker 2>took a week off because the CIA stopped paying us.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, that's right. I've always considered us a branch

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<v Speaker 1>of the US government.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, yeah, you and half of the anime people

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<v Speaker 4>on Twitter robots.

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<v Speaker 2>We're back. I don't know, it feels a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>weird to be doing this White House Weekly episode knowing

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<v Speaker 2>that there's actually less White House than usual there is.

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<v Speaker 2>Trump has begun demolishing the East wing of the White

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<v Speaker 2>House to build a privately fund a two hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>fifty million dollar ballroom, and I think we should all

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<v Speaker 2>have a moment of silence for the East Wing.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to say a moment of celebration because

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<v Speaker 1>now James's people can finally shake hands with the United

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<v Speaker 1>States government and destroying large portions of the White House.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I saw it was a Volvo excavator today, so we

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<v Speaker 4>also got the Swedes on board. I guess sure couldn't

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<v Speaker 4>even find an American excavator. Sad we don't make things

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<v Speaker 4>in this anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's because we're still waiting for the tariffs to

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<v Speaker 2>get fully fully enacted.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, once we get that Swedish tariff on. We are

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<v Speaker 2>almost four weeks now into the government shutdown and there's

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<v Speaker 2>not really a clear end in sight, and Snap Benefits

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<v Speaker 2>food stamps are set to run out in a little

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<v Speaker 2>over a week on November first, Mia, did you want

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<v Speaker 2>to say something on this.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So we've been seeing sort of tech start to

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<v Speaker 3>go out to people who are on food assistants in

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<v Speaker 3>various states. There's one circulating from Minnesota that is saying

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<v Speaker 3>that the food part of SNAP Benefits are going to

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<v Speaker 3>shut down in a few days on November first, when

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<v Speaker 3>the funding shuts down. This is a critical lifeline for

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<v Speaker 3>food for an extremely large number of people. And this

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<v Speaker 3>is also coming in a period where food banks are

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<v Speaker 3>already being stressed by just the other cuts to SNAP

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<v Speaker 3>and other food assistants programs that have already taken place. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>we're coming to a very very critical moment in terms

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<v Speaker 3>of wide scale food insecurity in this country for a

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<v Speaker 3>whole bunch of the most vulnerable people in the country.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, this is a good moment for if you

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<v Speaker 3>have actual access to food, which is a very very

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<v Speaker 3>bleak thing to be saying, but you know, something is

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<v Speaker 3>going to have to try to pick up the slack

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<v Speaker 3>or a bunch of people aren't going to eat right,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's probably going to have to be us, because

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<v Speaker 3>it's first fuck not going to be the government.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, and yeah, it's just the people's need to

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<v Speaker 1>eat is inelastic.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Just to put some numbers on it, like SNAP in

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<v Speaker 4>twenty four was forty one point seven million people, which

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<v Speaker 4>is about twelve percent of the US population.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is a massive cliff.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's particularly bad in certain states. For example, Oregon,

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<v Speaker 1>you know where I live, is set to lose about

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<v Speaker 1>three quarters of a million people's SNAP benefits. There are

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<v Speaker 1>like four million people in the state.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, yep.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's also like those people are also disproportionately non

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<v Speaker 3>white and disapportionate clearly and very disapportionately trans Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is something that if straight up the shutdown

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<v Speaker 3>continues and we don't see not benefits payout, this could

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<v Speaker 3>also be a major source of instability because you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the thing that happens very quickly when suddenly forty million

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<v Speaker 3>people don't have food is bread riots. What is going

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<v Speaker 3>to happen with that is deeply unclear, but yeah, we're

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<v Speaker 3>heading into an extremely bleak time.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're looking at predictors of violent instability in countries, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>mass starvation is about top of the list.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yep.

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<v Speaker 3>Particularly bread riots usually are in sort of modern era,

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<v Speaker 3>happens with two or three hundred percent increases in food prices,

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<v Speaker 3>usually as a result of sort of im mass structural adjustments.

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<v Speaker 3>But if there was going to be another one, this

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<v Speaker 3>would be it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So it's worth sort of being prepared on both

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<v Speaker 3>ends in terms of feeding people and also yeah, with

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<v Speaker 3>whatever was going to happen with this cuts out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Meanwhile, during during all of this, during the shutdown

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<v Speaker 2>and during snaps taking clock, Trump wants his Justice Department

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<v Speaker 2>to pay himself two hundred and thirty million dollars in

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<v Speaker 2>compensation for damages coming from past investigations into him.

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<v Speaker 1>Seems fair.

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<v Speaker 2>Trump claims that he will give this money to quote

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<v Speaker 2>unquote charity. Seems real clear what that means, what charity

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<v Speaker 2>that will be, how that will really qualify as a

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<v Speaker 2>charitable donation. But he is currently seeking two hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>thirty million dollars of government money to be paid back

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<v Speaker 2>to himself. In the end, it will be him making

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<v Speaker 2>the final call on this, which he says he feels

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<v Speaker 2>strange about.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well, it's good.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, he's an honest man, you know, it's great.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, we we just fully entered the looting. The

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<v Speaker 3>storehouse is part of the regime.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they're taking a very British approach.

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<v Speaker 1>Looting is is putting this too mildly?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And if you.

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<v Speaker 3>See the article about the plans to let AI companies

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<v Speaker 3>apply to get old weapons grade plutonium to fuel the

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<v Speaker 3>nuclear reactors.

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<v Speaker 1>That seems fine. That's what I trust Sam Altman weapons

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<v Speaker 1>grade plutonium. Yeah, he's gonna use that safely.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, hopefully the air bubble collapses before they get.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what a great attitude to approach having weapons

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<v Speaker 1>grade plutonium is move fast and break rain.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh god, this is great. It's this week. We're announcing

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<v Speaker 4>the start of Kood's Force AI.

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<v Speaker 1>There we go, bring it on, God.

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<v Speaker 2>Break breaking news. US sanction has been placed against two

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<v Speaker 2>of Russia's largest oil companies in an effort to pressure

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<v Speaker 2>the Ukraine Russia piece deal, which Putin just backed out

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<v Speaker 2>of negotiations from as there was plans for him and

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<v Speaker 2>Trump to meet. So that just happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Sexy not sexy. So I think one of the first

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<v Speaker 1>things we want to cover right now, just because this

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<v Speaker 1>is maybe the number one thing I'm seeing people talk

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<v Speaker 1>about on social media right now, is there have been

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<v Speaker 1>articles written about ICE's new weapons budget. Famously their budget

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<v Speaker 1>is increased by seeing like seven hundred percent. A huge

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<v Speaker 1>amount of that's being spent on bonuses in order to

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<v Speaker 1>get people to join, cash payments and whatnot, as well

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<v Speaker 1>as retention bonuses, but a lot more of it's being

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<v Speaker 1>spent on weapons. And right now, the number one thing

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<v Speaker 1>I'm seeing people freak out about is the supposed idea

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<v Speaker 1>from these documents that ICE is purchasing guided missiles and

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<v Speaker 1>chemical weapons. I have heard people say this is ICE,

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<v Speaker 1>which is obviously Trump's SS, you know, making their own

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<v Speaker 1>vafen SS, which were the armed units of the SS.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm seeing a lot of shit like this spread, and

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<v Speaker 1>as James is going to tell you, none of that's true. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the fact that ICE has a massive increase

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<v Speaker 1>in budget and is buying a shit little weapons is true.

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<v Speaker 1>But they're not guided missiles.

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<v Speaker 2>I doesn't matter what heat guided missiles. Yeah, we're not

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<v Speaker 2>getting a deathhead ICE ICE unit. Come on at the

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<v Speaker 2>next Canal Street ICE rate, they're going to be launching

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<v Speaker 2>heat seeking missiles into Chinatown.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying this isn't a problem, but it's not

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<v Speaker 1>what people are saying it is. Yeah, sorry, James, all right.

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<v Speaker 4>The source of its claim is a substack page called

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<v Speaker 4>popular Information run by a guy called Juddlygum, and he

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<v Speaker 4>has claimed in this piece, I'm just going to quote

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<v Speaker 4>the ICE post purchase quote chemical weapons, and quote guided

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<v Speaker 4>missile warheads and explosive components. I guess the main thrust

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<v Speaker 4>of the piece was looking at the fact that ICE

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<v Speaker 4>spent nine million dollars on geistly ar pattern rifles Patrol

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<v Speaker 4>spent more than twice that he appears to have missed

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<v Speaker 4>that in his reporting. This reporting is extremely dishonest. To

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<v Speaker 4>put it mildly, it's either deliberately misleading or massively incompetent.

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<v Speaker 4>The piece in question doesn't link to the individual contracts, which,

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<v Speaker 4>like on the face of its bad form, right, if

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<v Speaker 4>you're going to be talking about contracts, your contracts are

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<v Speaker 4>in the public domain, just linked to them. The piece

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't do that. I went on USA spending dot gov

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<v Speaker 4>and a filtered by contracts that have been awarded by ICE.

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<v Speaker 2>I gave date range.

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<v Speaker 4>The date range are pertained to the things being discussed

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<v Speaker 4>in the article, and then I filtered by the product

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<v Speaker 4>or service code for chemical weapons and guided missile warheads. Right,

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<v Speaker 4>two different products or service codes. Product or service codes

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<v Speaker 4>are like these, these four digit codes that exist in

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<v Speaker 4>federal procurement right to put things into buckets basically, and

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<v Speaker 4>I found the contracts. The contract very clearly states the

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<v Speaker 4>guided missile quote unquote contract. The contract with the guided

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<v Speaker 4>missis cell product or service code very clearly states it

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<v Speaker 4>is for multiple distraction devices. Yeah, it's a contract with

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<v Speaker 4>a company called Quantico Tactical. I did call them yesterday,

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<v Speaker 4>something that again any competent reporter should do before publishing

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<v Speaker 4>a piece that does not appear to have been done

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<v Speaker 4>by the substat guy. They gave me an email. I

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<v Speaker 4>sent it email more than twenty four hours ago, requesting

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<v Speaker 4>comment or clarification. I didn't receive a response at the

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<v Speaker 4>time of us going to press. If I hit back

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<v Speaker 4>from them before we release this, I will let you

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<v Speaker 4>all know the chemical weapons. It was OC spray, it

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<v Speaker 4>WASAB spray, right, And a distraction device.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, folks, this is something like like a

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<v Speaker 1>sonic grenade, which sounds crazy, but it's a grenade that

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<v Speaker 1>makes a loud noise to distract.

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<v Speaker 3>To bang.

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<v Speaker 1>A flash bang is also a distraction device when you

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<v Speaker 1>used the way that they're use in riots. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a little bit of a different thing when you're

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<v Speaker 1>using one to like breach bang and clear a door

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<v Speaker 1>or something. But like when you're throwing a flash bang

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<v Speaker 1>at a riot, it's a distraction device because the is

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<v Speaker 1>you've got a bunch of people moving towards an area

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<v Speaker 1>you want to stop them from You distract them by an.

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<v Speaker 2>Explosion, you know. Yeah, and it's distracting.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's also and this is you know, one of

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<v Speaker 3>the one of the frustrating elements about this is that

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<v Speaker 3>Ice has been using a whole bunch of these to

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<v Speaker 3>blow down people's doors. It's really horrible.

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<v Speaker 1>There are problems. It's problems that they're buying all.

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<v Speaker 3>This and no one is talking about it because everyone's

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<v Speaker 3>focused on this.

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<v Speaker 1>When James put up their initial research just on a

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<v Speaker 1>Blue Sky and Twitter, I shared it and people were like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's still a problem they've got that they're getting all

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<v Speaker 1>buying all these new weapons. Do you not care about? Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>I care about that. You're not talking about that, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we care about They're talking about a fantasy like and like.

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<v Speaker 4>It is bad that Ice has flash bangs and pepper spray, right,

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<v Speaker 4>I have personally broadcasts how they exists like you can

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<v Speaker 4>go back only a few months and here ice flash

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<v Speaker 4>bangs on this podcast, like recorded by me in person.

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<v Speaker 4>We know they fucking have them because they were throwing

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<v Speaker 4>them at me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've lost count of how many have hit me directly.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we've got to at least seventy five percent fucking federal

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<v Speaker 4>government flashbang impact, you know. Like I want to take

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<v Speaker 4>second guess to talk about incentives here because this really

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<v Speaker 4>pisses me off. Yeah, And I think that the way

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<v Speaker 4>we build trust in the media is through openness, and

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<v Speaker 4>I think that we do that better than most and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to try and do that here, just so

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<v Speaker 4>you know, none of us make any extra money if

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<v Speaker 4>more people download this podcast, at least not directly. Right,

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<v Speaker 4>we do not have a direct incentive to make fantastical

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<v Speaker 4>claims that will lead to people downloading our podcast and

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<v Speaker 4>being afraid that is not true for people who have

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<v Speaker 4>these substick outlets, right Like, Like.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'll let me clarify, we do have a

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<v Speaker 1>direct financial interest in there being traffic, right, because that

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<v Speaker 1>is that's how we make our money, right like, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's how we justify getting raisers and stuff. So, like

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<v Speaker 1>everyone in media if more people listen to our stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>like we do have a financial interest in that over time,

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<v Speaker 1>not checking week to week to see if we're getting

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<v Speaker 1>if what we're doing is bringing us in more direct money, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's just not the way our thing works.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and when people are on their own, they're doing

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<v Speaker 4>these subs a catet there, there is a very real

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<v Speaker 4>incentive to do that, right.

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<v Speaker 2>We also have a team here, We fact check each other.

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<v Speaker 1>We do our best. We fuck up sometimes, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we fuck up sometimes, so we're honest about it when

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<v Speaker 1>we do right, we acknowledge it. Yeah, we acknowledge when

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<v Speaker 1>James makes mistakes.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you, guys, you're the least You're the least mistake

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<v Speaker 4>person here's extremely careful about that ship. Well, I've stood

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<v Speaker 4>on my fucking pedestal enough about this. But yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 4>bad right that things that I saw buying that Ice

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<v Speaker 4>is really buying are semi automatic rs, more clocks, a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of soft body armor, red dot sites quote unquote

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<v Speaker 4>crowd control munitions. Right, sort of spending you see from

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<v Speaker 4>a special forces unit that are very not special like

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<v Speaker 4>like police agency, right, Like like that's just spending, Like

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<v Speaker 4>they have an open checkbook.

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<v Speaker 1>Like Ice is continuing to buy the same weapons with

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<v Speaker 1>which they have been hurting people the entirety almost of

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty first century, and they're hurting more people now

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<v Speaker 1>and will be hurting even more people in the future

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<v Speaker 1>because they will have even more money. And that's bad.

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<v Speaker 1>And you don't, like, what would they even do with

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<v Speaker 1>a guided missiles?

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<v Speaker 4>It doesn't make sense on the face for it's sixty

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<v Speaker 4>one grand. Yeah, the fuck do you think you're getting

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<v Speaker 4>for sixty one grand from a company in quantic? You

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<v Speaker 4>tried buying guided missiles in this economy? People, It's just ludicrous, man,

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<v Speaker 4>What the fuck they think they're going like like Tomahawk,

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<v Speaker 4>I know, like a strawberry picking facility, Like it's ludicrous,

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<v Speaker 4>it's fucking ridiculous, a chemical weapon.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you can talk about Substack and they're being

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<v Speaker 1>fucked up things about the company. But like, honestly, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that it's overstated. But I think people focus on

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<v Speaker 1>that extent of like, well, yeah, which of them aren't

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<v Speaker 1>What where is the non Nazi social media company that

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<v Speaker 1>has any kind of reach?

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<v Speaker 4>You know?

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<v Speaker 1>But that's really not even the point I care to make.

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<v Speaker 1>What I will say, the problem here is not even

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<v Speaker 1>just that like when people are working for an audience

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<v Speaker 1>like that, we're week to week, however, many people are

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<v Speaker 1>donating and whatnot kind of can incentivize you to follow

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<v Speaker 1>certain rabbit holes and push certain things. I think one

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<v Speaker 1>of the bigger problems is that what you have is

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<v Speaker 1>a generation very of the most talented and successful journalists

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of their skill of like writing and their

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<v Speaker 1>ability to build an audience that follows them. Those people

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<v Speaker 1>have all moved to a platform where they by default

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<v Speaker 1>don't have an editor, and like every journalist worth they're solved.

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<v Speaker 1>I've had my fights and frustrations with editors at a

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<v Speaker 1>variety of publications, and sometimes they're knowing, and sometimes editors suck,

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<v Speaker 1>and sometimes publications a big part of what they're doing

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<v Speaker 1>is just trying to water down your shit. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>not the only thing editors do. A major thing editors

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<v Speaker 1>do is point out, Hey, I get that you're really

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<v Speaker 1>into this, and I get that you find this compelling,

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<v Speaker 1>but as an objective observer, I'm seeing this hole in

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<v Speaker 1>this hole in this hole, and you need to, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>haul these people and make sure that this because it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't look like this is actually a guided missile it

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<v Speaker 1>looks like somebody just fucked up putting in a code.

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<v Speaker 1>We need to check on this so we can state

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<v Speaker 1>it to a point of certainty. That's what an editor

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<v Speaker 1>should be doing, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Even if they're responsible journalist, Like I wouldn't have submitted

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<v Speaker 4>that piece to an editor without having checked that first. Like, sure,

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<v Speaker 4>it took me five minutes to cool them. I should

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<v Speaker 4>add that the PFCs in question for grenades and warheads

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<v Speaker 4>are one digit different, right again.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, which is which is what happened here?

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<v Speaker 2>It certainly looks that way.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, and again this is why part of how

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<v Speaker 1>responsible journalism is supposed to work is that you never

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<v Speaker 1>have just one eye on a story, because every journalist

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<v Speaker 1>will inevitably miss things if you're doing that, right, That's

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<v Speaker 1>why you are supposed to The idea is to have

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<v Speaker 1>multiple eyes on a thing so that oh, hey it

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<v Speaker 1>looks like you skipped over this, or hey it just

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<v Speaker 1>occurred to me. I have this question that is not

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<v Speaker 1>being answered, and you make a couple of phone calls,

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<v Speaker 1>throw in another sentence, and then that's a thing that

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<v Speaker 1>we're answering, a thing we're accounting for. And if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have that the work isn't as good.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. No, Look, I'm not saying there were not things to.

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<v Speaker 1>Be afraid of that are No one's saying that yet.

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<v Speaker 4>But I want people to be afraid of the right thing,

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<v Speaker 4>so like they're not gonna lob you people.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think we're really going to be safe until

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<v Speaker 2>there's an iron dome over every Home Depot.

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<v Speaker 1>Garrettson. I've been saying that for years. But that's also

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<v Speaker 1>because I would like to start a limited missile war

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<v Speaker 1>against the Home Depot Corporation. But I've been taking Low's

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<v Speaker 1>money for years.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, on behalf of flows. Yeah, I'm on teammates Hadways.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll see you on the battlefield, Robert.

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<v Speaker 1>At least we don't have any Harbor Freight people.

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<v Speaker 4>Actually actually a massive Harbor Freight guy James says, have

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<v Speaker 4>Harbor Fray like literally behind me.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, then I think about Harbor Freight is buying

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<v Speaker 1>one thing and then returning it exactly eleven months after

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<v Speaker 1>buying it once you've broken it, and just having a

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<v Speaker 1>perpetual whatever.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, everything that I bought from Harbor Freight has started smoking.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything breaks that you buy from Harbor Freight. But the

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<v Speaker 1>return policy is amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>The question is will it break before or after you've

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<v Speaker 4>used it enough to justify buying something more expensive.

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<v Speaker 2>And the answer is yes, James, can you do a

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<v Speaker 2>product and service code ad break kids based on your

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<v Speaker 2>investigation here and Adam, you can keep this in you

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<v Speaker 2>can you can show them how the sauce is made here.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's just in terms of honesty here we go. Okay, right,

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<v Speaker 4>give me give me a second here. I got to

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<v Speaker 4>think of something good.

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<v Speaker 2>You fucked it.

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<v Speaker 4>I was just gonna do talking products and services and

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<v Speaker 4>you ruined it. Garrison, if you are in the market

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<v Speaker 4>for a distraction ad vice, guided warhead or chemical weapon,

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<v Speaker 4>let's hope that you get an advert for one of

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<v Speaker 4>those in this commercial break. That's right, people, welcome back

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<v Speaker 4>to the Iranian regime. I hope you got what you wanted.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, this podcast is the only podcast entirely supported by

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<v Speaker 1>the Ayatola and yeah, praise him.

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<v Speaker 2>The CIA and the Iotola have finally unique.

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<v Speaker 4>I had the clasping hands menimo from Robert Evans. Legally speaking,

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<v Speaker 4>that is a joke. We are not funded by the

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<v Speaker 4>Iranian regime. We're all monarchs.

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<v Speaker 2>Think for yourself there, talk about let's talk about the

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<v Speaker 2>national card.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure.

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<v Speaker 2>On Monday, his past Monday, the Ninth circond Quarter of

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<v Speaker 2>Appeals have ruled in favor of the Trump administration, halting

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<v Speaker 2>a court order denying the federalization and deployment of the

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<v Speaker 2>Oregon National Guard. Had two to one ruling on a

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<v Speaker 2>three panel hearing with two trumpetpointed judges. They called Trump's

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<v Speaker 2>plan to deploy troops to the ice Building in Portland

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<v Speaker 2>a quote unquote measured response. Now there is a second

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<v Speaker 2>tro preventing out of state National Guard from deploying to Portland,

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<v Speaker 2>and this appears to still be in effect, but its

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<v Speaker 2>fate is unknown. The Justice Department has requested the original

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<v Speaker 2>judge suspend the order, though the Ninth Circuit itself is

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<v Speaker 2>considering whether a larger panel should rehear this entire case. Currently,

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<v Speaker 2>there is no immediate plans for Oregon National Guard to

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<v Speaker 2>be deployed, but they do now have the go ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is still a developing situation. But that's an

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<v Speaker 2>important update there. Let's talk about the two fifty celebration

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<v Speaker 2>treel seeing Happy birthday no worthy to the Marines, Yes, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh god, yeah, Happy Birthday of the Marine Corps. I

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<v Speaker 1>hope today you guys get to eat a lot of crayons.

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<v Speaker 2>Have a cake which is shaped like a giant crown. No,

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<v Speaker 2>it just is made out of giant crown and we

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<v Speaker 2>all remove our tote CoV tattoos. That's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>the Marine party.

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<v Speaker 1>Get get rid of those Scout snipers. It's jet sawst.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, there was the Marines two hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 2>a celebration with JD Vance last week where they did

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<v Speaker 2>play Hell Diver to music during the celebration. Was a

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<v Speaker 2>happy birthday, And I'm still not clear what hell Diver is.

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<v Speaker 2>Hell divers is a satirical video game, et cetera. Is

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<v Speaker 2>a fascist military that fights for quote unquote democracy against

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<v Speaker 2>others so called fascists.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry, managed democracy very important, that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>It's true, yes, managed demand.

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<v Speaker 2>I have heard of it from the news headlines such

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<v Speaker 2>as Charlie Kirk shot. But yeah, it's basically like playing

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<v Speaker 2>Starship Troopers music over the Marine Corps celebration party. That's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of the caliber we're operating in here. Yeah, thank

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<v Speaker 2>you for bringing that to my generational understanding. There you go. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 4>Talking to the Marine Corps two undred fiftieth birthday. On Saturday,

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<v Speaker 4>a one to fifty five shells one hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 4>five minuimeter Howitzer shell prematurely detonated over the five Freeway

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<v Speaker 4>outside of Pendleton.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, not stuff, crazy shit.

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<v Speaker 4>Damaging a COPCA that was assigned to JD. Vance's security detail.

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<v Speaker 1>It was literally as soon as they started talking about

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<v Speaker 1>how Trump wanted to shoot a missile into fucking Camp

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<v Speaker 1>Pendleton and like immediately, yeah, they fuck up and blow

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<v Speaker 1>up a car attached to fucking the Vice president's security detail.

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<v Speaker 2>Amazing stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>They did a dress rehearsal on Friday in which they

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<v Speaker 4>managed not to detonate any shells over to five. Gavin

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<v Speaker 4>Newsom decided to shut the frive on Saturday.

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<v Speaker 1>Probaly good call.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, probably complaining about things shaking.

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<v Speaker 4>Just if you're like, if you're not familiar with the

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<v Speaker 4>layout there, I would say that in most places you go,

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<v Speaker 4>Camp Pendleton is a large area that's used by the

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<v Speaker 4>Marine Corps for training. It has artillery ranges within it.

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<v Speaker 1>The five is the big highway in California. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>highway that goes the whole length of the state.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you would call it the I five if you

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<v Speaker 4>weren't from here, and then we would know that you

0:23:42.960 --> 0:23:45.480
<v Speaker 4>weren't from here, So we call it the five. There's

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<v Speaker 4>less than a mile of land to the west of

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<v Speaker 4>the five, right, so shooting go over to five like

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<v Speaker 4>pretty much shooting from the beach or near the beach,

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<v Speaker 4>as opposed to the whole rest of Camp Pendleton right

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<v Speaker 4>where they have artillery ranges. But they wanted to do

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<v Speaker 4>it over the five. I think they were doing some

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<v Speaker 4>kind of simulated landing drill. Not quite sure what the

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<v Speaker 4>landing drill they were doing, but this get resulted in

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<v Speaker 4>the damage done to a HP car and really fucked

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<v Speaker 4>up traffic in probably the entirety of southern California. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>from most of last Saturday.

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<v Speaker 3>I do you just want to mention here that there

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<v Speaker 3>is historical precedent in the United States for US accidentally

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<v Speaker 3>killing the Secretary of State because a gun they were

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<v Speaker 3>firing on a pleasure cruise on a boat, on a

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<v Speaker 3>Navy boat blew up. So wow in the eighteen forties,

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<v Speaker 3>but we did kill the Secretary of the Navy and

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<v Speaker 3>the Secretary of State.

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<v Speaker 2>If any Secretary of War could pull this off, it

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<v Speaker 2>would be pa I believe him. Here is a decent

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<v Speaker 2>chance he will throw one of those actes straight into JD.

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<v Speaker 2>Vans's leg. Oh yeah, I forgot about his accident.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, Vansifolmer Marine. Oh yeah that is wait, yeah

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<v Speaker 4>yeah yeah, I totally forgot lance corporal in the Marine Corps.

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<v Speaker 4>I believe he was a PAO public affairs. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 4>want to address DHS has claimed about deportation numbers. DHS

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<v Speaker 4>has been throwing out some really big numbers for deportation,

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<v Speaker 4>claiming over half a million removed and one point six

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<v Speaker 4>million quote unquote self deported.

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<v Speaker 2>These are inflated numbers.

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<v Speaker 4>These include things like people turned away airports and Coastguard

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<v Speaker 4>into dictions.

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<v Speaker 2>Right that they are not removals of people from the

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<v Speaker 2>interior of the United States who were residing here. They're

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<v Speaker 2>like if someone maybe if someone came with a visa

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<v Speaker 2>and was turned around the airport, they're including that as

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<v Speaker 2>a deportation.

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<v Speaker 7>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>DHS has stopped publishing a lot of the data that

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<v Speaker 4>we previously got under this administration, so we don't have

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of hard numbers, but at one point six

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<v Speaker 4>million number. This comes from CIS right, the Center for

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<v Speaker 4>Immigration Studies. We talked about them before this is a

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<v Speaker 4>Tanton funded quote unquote think tank, which the SPLC has

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<v Speaker 4>adjudicated as a hate group. The CIS Data DHS has

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<v Speaker 4>been like sharing this since it came out. But it

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<v Speaker 4>also so it seems to be weighing very heavily into

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<v Speaker 4>whatever algorithm Musk has put into Grok recently. If you

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<v Speaker 4>look for mentions on x the Everything website of the

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<v Speaker 4>one point six million number, nearly all of them are

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<v Speaker 4>Groq repeating it. God, I don't know if they straight

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<v Speaker 4>up just said like, yeah, the CIS is your source

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<v Speaker 4>for information when they were, you know, programming it to

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<v Speaker 4>be less woke but slightly more woke than when it

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<v Speaker 4>called itself Mecha Hitler, But it seems to be the

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<v Speaker 4>CIS seems to be heavily weighed in the Grock algorithm

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<v Speaker 4>these days, which I thought was interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they did get that GROC contract approved a few

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<v Speaker 2>months ago.

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<v Speaker 4>I think the DHS didn't get the number from GROK.

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<v Speaker 4>I think they got it from CIS, but nonetheless like

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<v Speaker 4>the reason that that number is still in the side guy.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think it's partially because Grok keeps repeating it. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>you know it is. It is gro October as I've

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<v Speaker 4>been saying, Garrison, we have fucking spoken about this. It's

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<v Speaker 4>not Groctober angry.

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<v Speaker 2>The other thing I do want to mention on a

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<v Speaker 2>I guess not deportations, but the Department of State has

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<v Speaker 2>announced a series of people who have had their visas

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<v Speaker 2>revoked for posts surrounding the death of Charlie Kirk. The

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<v Speaker 2>State Department Twitter account posted a whole thread on x

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<v Speaker 2>the Everything app listing various sentences and sentiments that resulted

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<v Speaker 2>in visas being revoked. Quote Charlie Kirk was a son

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<v Speaker 2>of a bitch and he died by his own rules.

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<v Speaker 2>Visa revoked. When fascists die, Democrats don't complain, VISO revoked.

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<v Speaker 2>It from a German national Resilient National said that quote

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<v Speaker 2>Charlie Kirk was the reason for a Nazi rally where

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<v Speaker 2>they marched in homage to him, and that Kirk died

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<v Speaker 2>too late. Visa revoked. There's like four other of these

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<v Speaker 2>people making statements of that nature.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I think people get the idea.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Following Kirkstath Rubio to announce he would be looking

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<v Speaker 2>for visa holders who made statements following Kirk's death, and

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<v Speaker 2>he has followed through on that promise in some other

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<v Speaker 2>Charlie Kirk news. A few weeks ago, Turning Point USA

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<v Speaker 2>officially announced that they would be producing an alternative halftime

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<v Speaker 2>show after it was announced that the Puerto Rican artist

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<v Speaker 2>Bad Bunny would be performing at the twenty twenty six

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<v Speaker 2>Super Bowl. The TPUSA show will be called a Quote

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<v Speaker 2>All American Halftime Show, celebrating faith, family, and freedom. The

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<v Speaker 2>website has a submission form where it asks which genres

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<v Speaker 2>should be featured during the show. The options include quote

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<v Speaker 2>anything in English, American classic rock, country, hip hop, pop,

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<v Speaker 2>and worship.

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<v Speaker 1>I love anything in English as a genre.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. When I get to Spotify, that's what I put in.

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<v Speaker 1>The crowd's gonna riot when someone does Hotel California.

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<v Speaker 2>We can really push anything at English. Frankly, we could

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<v Speaker 2>go to some pretty he places.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I didn't think they've already considered the breadth

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<v Speaker 4>of that genre.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say. How they could get me back on

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<v Speaker 1>board is in if in addition to a separate halftime show,

0:29:10.760 --> 0:29:14.480
<v Speaker 1>they had a separate super Bowl in which Ben Shapiro

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<v Speaker 1>faces off alone against the Philadelphia Eagles.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that would be so fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I would let Ben Shapiro bring some friends.

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<v Speaker 3>No, No, I want to see Jalen Hurts physically pick

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<v Speaker 3>up Ben Shapiro and see how far he can pass him,

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<v Speaker 3>because I'm pretty, I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty sud at least at least sixty year.

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<v Speaker 3>That guy Benches. That guy could like bench a small

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<v Speaker 3>motor vehicle like benches Shapiro. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>More details and performers will be announced later, including how

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<v Speaker 2>this will be broadcast, will be streamed online? Are they

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<v Speaker 2>don't trying to make a TV deal with someone like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Fox? You know, unclear how this will be broadcast,

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<v Speaker 2>but it is something they're going to go through. On

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<v Speaker 2>last thing we should probably talk about before the break

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<v Speaker 2>or I don't know, maybe maybe we could combine this

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<v Speaker 2>with the section you wanted to talk about Robert on

0:30:09.120 --> 0:30:13.920
<v Speaker 2>the Infiltrations. But right after our Executive Disorder episode from

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<v Speaker 2>two weeks ago, literally like like hours after, on October eighth,

0:30:18.440 --> 0:30:20.960
<v Speaker 2>right wing influencers gathered at the White House to discuss

0:30:21.080 --> 0:30:26.400
<v Speaker 2>with Trump and cabinet members their theories and carrowing stories

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<v Speaker 2>of Antifa at this big Antifa roundtable. Yeah, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>play a short clip like a few seconds from Jack

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<v Speaker 2>Pasoba get in there noted far.

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<v Speaker 3>Right extremist and poster Jack.

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<v Speaker 1>Pasobic certainly noted poster it's a great guy. Yeah, Antifa

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<v Speaker 1>is real.

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<v Speaker 8>Antifa has been around in various iterations for almost one

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<v Speaker 8>hundred years, in some instances, going back to the Weimar

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<v Speaker 8>Republic in Germany.

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<v Speaker 2>Huh, I wonder, I wonder why it went back to

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<v Speaker 2>the Wymar republican German? What what? What else was happening

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<v Speaker 2>at that time in Germany. It's very interesting you say that, Jack,

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<v Speaker 2>Very interesting, Jack. What other opinions do you have on

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<v Speaker 2>Fimar Republic?

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<v Speaker 4>Jack?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So this is worrisome, right, the fact that these

0:31:19.200 --> 0:31:23.040
<v Speaker 1>idiots are getting to speak this close to power about

0:31:23.040 --> 0:31:25.320
<v Speaker 1>their theory, which is basically that everyone they don't like

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<v Speaker 1>or who has said anything they don't like as part

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<v Speaker 1>of a terrorist organization and should be put in prisoner executed.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's the gist of what all of the people

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<v Speaker 1>at that roundtable believe.

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<v Speaker 2>A whole bunch of like, you know, post millennial people,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know that that that whole that whole right,

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<v Speaker 2>like a genre of like you know, right wing antifa journalists, journalistic.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, everyone I don't like equals terrorists. Yes, So that's

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<v Speaker 1>really worrisome, and I just I kind of wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>make a note here to people that as a result

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff like this, in case you somehow have not

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<v Speaker 1>been aware of this, we're going to be seeing a

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<v Speaker 1>massive ramp up in not just attempts at prosecution, but

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<v Speaker 1>at attempts to infiltrate and get gotcha footage and audio

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<v Speaker 1>of different left wing and anarchist groups that are going

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<v Speaker 1>to be used as pretexts for further crackdowns. I would

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<v Speaker 1>say it's just a time to be aware of that

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<v Speaker 1>and be aware of the fact that anytime you are

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<v Speaker 1>speaking or at a public event where other people are speaking,

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<v Speaker 1>you should assume that that's being recorded and that people

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<v Speaker 1>will be pulling out the worst parts they can from

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<v Speaker 1>it and trying to use that to destroy people's lives.

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<v Speaker 1>And I bring that up because there's been a couple

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<v Speaker 1>that just really broke today, some potentially pretty high profile

0:32:45.520 --> 0:32:48.520
<v Speaker 1>examples of this. One of them is that at a

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<v Speaker 1>panel for Firestorm Books, they had a speaker, guy named

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<v Speaker 1>Eric King, who was convicted of a firebombing. He's a

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<v Speaker 1>left wing activist. He spent almost ten years in prison,

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<v Speaker 1>at a horrific time in prison. I mean just abused

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<v Speaker 1>by the system and some of the worst playways possible

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<v Speaker 1>and is finally out. And Eric did a talk at

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<v Speaker 1>Firestorm Books and he made basically his statement that activists

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<v Speaker 1>need to hurt them where it counts, saying we can

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<v Speaker 1>force them to shut the fuck up when it hurts

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<v Speaker 1>their wallilet enough, or you can find other ways to

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<v Speaker 1>hurt them. Now that's not saying anything inherently illegal. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>he starts it by saying we can force them to

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<v Speaker 1>shut up when it hurts their wallet enough. That's talking

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<v Speaker 1>about like boycotts and stuff. But the phrase other ways

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<v Speaker 1>to hurt them is vague enough. That's pretty easy for

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<v Speaker 1>these guys to cut stuff out. And I'm looking at

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<v Speaker 1>a post by quote end quote investigated analysts for the

0:33:39.560 --> 0:33:43.840
<v Speaker 1>Manhattan STU Smith. He's framing this as known ANTIFA firebomber

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<v Speaker 1>calls for escalation, and again that's not necessarily inaccurate look

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<v Speaker 1>at what Eric was saying. But it's easy to pull

0:33:52.200 --> 0:33:55.080
<v Speaker 1>stuff out like this from something like what appears to

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<v Speaker 1>have been a fairly open zoom call that is not

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<v Speaker 1>hard for someone to get in to and record and

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<v Speaker 1>pull something out of to try and make the case

0:34:04.960 --> 0:34:07.320
<v Speaker 1>that someone like Eric should be back in prison, or

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<v Speaker 1>that Firestorm Books is a party, you know, providing material

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<v Speaker 1>support to an extremist organization. And what I'm not trying

0:34:15.800 --> 0:34:17.600
<v Speaker 1>to do is say like and so people should not

0:34:17.719 --> 0:34:19.960
<v Speaker 1>talk and gather in public because they're going to be

0:34:20.000 --> 0:34:22.800
<v Speaker 1>doing this. But you need to be aware that anything

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<v Speaker 1>said it's something like this that's in any way open,

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<v Speaker 1>and even if you try to make it kind of

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<v Speaker 1>more closed than this, they will try to get people in.

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<v Speaker 1>This is something that is increasingly going to happen, and

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<v Speaker 1>so people just need to be You can't you can't

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of hope that they're not paying attention. You

0:34:41.160 --> 0:34:43.560
<v Speaker 1>have to be aware of the fact that they're out

0:34:43.560 --> 0:34:46.439
<v Speaker 1>there and they're going to be trying to infiltrate any

0:34:46.480 --> 0:34:49.320
<v Speaker 1>sort of thing like this they can to get pretexts

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<v Speaker 1>for further crackdowns. And another recent example of this Frontlines

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<v Speaker 1>tp USA, which is Turning Point ussays, I mean, it's

0:34:58.360 --> 0:35:02.000
<v Speaker 1>their version of the actual front line journalism show. But

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<v Speaker 1>they did an investigation where they went undercover to the

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<v Speaker 1>Oakland in Seattle anarchist book fairs, right, and again, there's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing wrong with doing those book fairs, I'm sure what

0:35:14.920 --> 0:35:18.280
<v Speaker 1>they're doing here is pulling whatever quotes they could grab

0:35:18.320 --> 0:35:21.759
<v Speaker 1>from people that sound bad out of context and using

0:35:21.760 --> 0:35:23.239
<v Speaker 1>them to try to make the case that again, these

0:35:23.280 --> 0:35:25.759
<v Speaker 1>are violent extremist events that need to be cracked down on.

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<v Speaker 1>And I will reiterate I'm not saying don't do book fares.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying don't show up at events like this.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying if you show up, be aware that stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like this is going to be happening, that they're going

0:35:37.000 --> 0:35:39.040
<v Speaker 1>to be people recording, that they're going to be people

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<v Speaker 1>trying to find what they can to destroy people who

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<v Speaker 1>are at these events, and that that's something that needs

0:35:46.600 --> 0:35:48.799
<v Speaker 1>to be in your threat model, right in terms of

0:35:49.239 --> 0:35:51.799
<v Speaker 1>how you dress when you go there, how visible you are,

0:35:51.840 --> 0:35:54.920
<v Speaker 1>and what you're willing to say around people, right, among

0:35:55.000 --> 0:35:58.000
<v Speaker 1>other things. I guess what I'm saying is there's some

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<v Speaker 1>jokes you shouldn't be making in public at events like

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<v Speaker 1>this unless you want there to be a high risk

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<v Speaker 1>of it coming back to bite you in the ass.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's that's perfectly reasonable.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>During the ANTIFA roundtable panel, this guy named Seamus Brunners. Seamus,

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<v Speaker 2>It says, seamss guys Jesus. It says seems that that

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<v Speaker 2>is does We're gonna have to stop you right that

0:36:24.600 --> 0:36:27.720
<v Speaker 2>that's that's a shame, but it says Seamus the director

0:36:27.800 --> 0:36:32.680
<v Speaker 2>of research at the Government Accountability Institute, discussed his theory

0:36:33.200 --> 0:36:38.239
<v Speaker 2>of how a network of NGOs are funding Antifa. This

0:36:38.320 --> 0:36:40.480
<v Speaker 2>is a this is a longer clip, but I think

0:36:40.520 --> 0:36:45.040
<v Speaker 2>it's important to look at how they are approaching this,

0:36:45.719 --> 0:36:48.600
<v Speaker 2>like how they are approaching this Antifa as an organization.

0:36:49.400 --> 0:36:52.240
<v Speaker 5>This is not just a story about violence and chaos,

0:36:52.320 --> 0:36:55.640
<v Speaker 5>as you alluded to, mister President. This is a money story.

0:36:56.160 --> 0:36:59.360
<v Speaker 5>And at the Government Accountability Institute, my colleague and I,

0:36:59.440 --> 0:37:03.040
<v Speaker 5>Peter schoy I and our team we follow the money

0:37:03.080 --> 0:37:04.840
<v Speaker 5>and we followed it to the top of what we

0:37:04.960 --> 0:37:10.800
<v Speaker 5>call the protest industrial complex riot Inc. And we found

0:37:10.800 --> 0:37:14.000
<v Speaker 5>a network of NGOs. It's not just the Soros network,

0:37:14.120 --> 0:37:17.760
<v Speaker 5>the Open Society network, it's other funding networks, the Arabella

0:37:17.800 --> 0:37:21.799
<v Speaker 5>funding network, the Tides funding network, Neville Roy Singham and

0:37:21.880 --> 0:37:26.120
<v Speaker 5>his network, Foreign Cash, and it's also big left wing

0:37:26.160 --> 0:37:28.240
<v Speaker 5>funder Some of them are not citizens of this country,

0:37:29.200 --> 0:37:33.000
<v Speaker 5>mister Hans jorg Vis of Switzerland. They're pouring money into

0:37:33.040 --> 0:37:35.399
<v Speaker 5>this entire ecosystem. And so I want to share three

0:37:35.480 --> 0:37:37.920
<v Speaker 5>money facts with you about what we call Riot Inc.

0:37:38.000 --> 0:37:42.400
<v Speaker 5>Number One, like any corporation, Riot Inc. Has many divisions.

0:37:42.440 --> 0:37:45.280
<v Speaker 5>It doesn't just have the Antifa boots on the ground division.

0:37:45.320 --> 0:37:48.080
<v Speaker 5>It has pr divisions, it has marketing divisions, It has

0:37:48.600 --> 0:37:51.560
<v Speaker 5>a very well funded legal division to get these boots

0:37:51.600 --> 0:37:54.240
<v Speaker 5>on the ground back on the streets as quickly as possible.

0:37:55.120 --> 0:37:58.160
<v Speaker 5>But it does have those investors that I mentioned. Number two,

0:37:59.000 --> 0:38:02.799
<v Speaker 5>we have identified dozens of radical organizations, not just the

0:38:02.840 --> 0:38:07.319
<v Speaker 5>decentralized Antifa organizations, but dozens of radical organizations that have

0:38:07.480 --> 0:38:12.000
<v Speaker 5>received more than one hundred million dollars from the riot

0:38:12.040 --> 0:38:14.359
<v Speaker 5>Ink investors. These would be the lawyer groups, These would

0:38:14.400 --> 0:38:18.880
<v Speaker 5>be the groups that advocate for calling good, honest Americans fascists,

0:38:18.880 --> 0:38:21.920
<v Speaker 5>et cetera. And then three, I think the most shocking

0:38:21.960 --> 0:38:24.080
<v Speaker 5>thing is that we have found that more than one

0:38:24.160 --> 0:38:29.280
<v Speaker 5>hundred million dollars in US taxpayer funding has flowed into

0:38:29.520 --> 0:38:32.480
<v Speaker 5>these funding networks, including at least four million dollars to

0:38:32.600 --> 0:38:37.279
<v Speaker 5>these very groups themselves, not just Antifa types. But there

0:38:37.320 --> 0:38:41.160
<v Speaker 5>was an event in Atlanta called stopcop City. Over sixty

0:38:41.680 --> 0:38:46.280
<v Speaker 5>rioters were charged with domestic terrorism. These groups received money

0:38:46.320 --> 0:38:49.319
<v Speaker 5>for that from both the billionaire class as well as

0:38:49.440 --> 0:38:50.200
<v Speaker 5>taxpayer money.

0:38:50.680 --> 0:38:53.000
<v Speaker 2>Unclear what he's talking about in terms of taxpayer money

0:38:53.400 --> 0:38:58.080
<v Speaker 2>going to the sixty RICO defendants in Atlanta, But the

0:38:58.120 --> 0:39:01.480
<v Speaker 2>structure's talking about, how is riot Inc Includes not just

0:39:01.520 --> 0:39:04.360
<v Speaker 2>like Antifa as in you know, people wearing black hoodies

0:39:04.360 --> 0:39:06.799
<v Speaker 2>on the streets at a protest, but like, you know,

0:39:07.160 --> 0:39:12.160
<v Speaker 2>legal support organizations, even like like research organizations that you

0:39:12.200 --> 0:39:15.560
<v Speaker 2>know advocate calling you know, good honest American's fascists, right

0:39:15.640 --> 0:39:17.920
<v Speaker 2>this this could refer to groups like Media Matters or

0:39:17.960 --> 0:39:22.719
<v Speaker 2>like Southern Poverty Law Center who do research into extremist organizations.

0:39:22.880 --> 0:39:25.160
<v Speaker 2>They could be framing the people like that as a

0:39:25.200 --> 0:39:28.439
<v Speaker 2>part of this this whole ecosystem, and that's that's where

0:39:28.440 --> 0:39:31.239
<v Speaker 2>they could be looking at for sources of money and

0:39:31.280 --> 0:39:34.520
<v Speaker 2>funding and like tracking where that money goes is in

0:39:34.560 --> 0:39:38.759
<v Speaker 2>groups like that, not obviously you know, your average black

0:39:38.800 --> 0:39:43.359
<v Speaker 2>claud Antifa protesters, not it's not receiving payment for their

0:39:43.400 --> 0:39:47.120
<v Speaker 2>presence at these at these events. But this guy went

0:39:47.160 --> 0:39:50.640
<v Speaker 2>on to claim that quote unquote, Riot Inc. Funding network

0:39:50.920 --> 0:39:56.000
<v Speaker 2>also supports decentralized crowdfunding platforms which fund organizations like the

0:39:56.080 --> 0:40:00.520
<v Speaker 2>ELM for John Brown gun club and these Socialist Rifles Association.

0:40:01.520 --> 0:40:04.480
<v Speaker 2>After he went on this like three minute long speech,

0:40:05.040 --> 0:40:08.279
<v Speaker 2>Trump asked him and other attendees that if they knew

0:40:08.320 --> 0:40:13.160
<v Speaker 2>anything about like ANTIFA members, funders, or the organizational structure,

0:40:13.520 --> 0:40:17.000
<v Speaker 2>to hand over that information to Pam Bondie or Cash

0:40:17.040 --> 0:40:21.239
<v Speaker 2>Patel and Trump reiterated this multiple times during the roundtable,

0:40:21.400 --> 0:40:24.720
<v Speaker 2>asking these you know, policy guys or quote unquote independent

0:40:24.760 --> 0:40:28.919
<v Speaker 2>journalists to hand over their information to the authorities. Here's

0:40:28.920 --> 0:40:31.160
<v Speaker 2>one version of him making this request.

0:40:31.640 --> 0:40:34.000
<v Speaker 7>Do you know the name of any of the funders?

0:40:34.200 --> 0:40:36.160
<v Speaker 7>Do you know the names? Because if you do, I'd

0:40:36.239 --> 0:40:38.120
<v Speaker 7>like you to give them to Cash or Pam.

0:40:38.440 --> 0:40:41.400
<v Speaker 5>Absolutely well, Christy, yeah, we'll do as soon as you can.

0:40:41.480 --> 0:40:44.840
<v Speaker 7>That's all of you, because you probably know the names.

0:40:44.880 --> 0:40:47.160
<v Speaker 7>After a certain period of time, you tend to find out.

0:40:47.680 --> 0:40:49.920
<v Speaker 7>But these are people that do not have good intention

0:40:50.040 --> 0:40:55.319
<v Speaker 7>for the country, and that's uh creasiness probably, So if

0:40:55.360 --> 0:40:58.080
<v Speaker 7>you could, if you very important, if you could do that,

0:40:58.719 --> 0:41:01.200
<v Speaker 7>it would be a great Nobody would know better than you.

0:41:01.200 --> 0:41:02.040
<v Speaker 7>You'll figure it out.

0:41:04.239 --> 0:41:05.440
<v Speaker 1>Share man cool.

0:41:06.440 --> 0:41:10.359
<v Speaker 2>During this roundtable, Pam Bondi, the Attorney General, reiterated how

0:41:10.360 --> 0:41:14.359
<v Speaker 2>Antifa should be treated like an organized criminal gang and

0:41:14.400 --> 0:41:17.120
<v Speaker 2>that law enforcement are going to quote unquote take the

0:41:17.160 --> 0:41:21.960
<v Speaker 2>same approach as it does handling foreign drug cartels. It's

0:41:22.000 --> 0:41:24.799
<v Speaker 2>a side note the United States has maybe that's what

0:41:24.840 --> 0:41:29.600
<v Speaker 2>those guided missions repeatedly lodged missiles at what it claims

0:41:29.760 --> 0:41:33.920
<v Speaker 2>are boats associated with foreign drug cartels.

0:41:34.360 --> 0:41:36.400
<v Speaker 4>I'll just say we have an episode next week about

0:41:36.440 --> 0:41:39.759
<v Speaker 4>the ongoing drone campaign in the Caribbean.

0:41:39.920 --> 0:41:46.440
<v Speaker 2>Speaking of funders, here's some of ours for the central

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<v Speaker 2>It's tariff talk. We're back baby, yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So literally within twelve hours I think of the of

0:42:56.560 --> 0:43:00.320
<v Speaker 3>the release at night of our last episode of this show,

0:43:01.760 --> 0:43:06.920
<v Speaker 3>we got the resumption of the trade war, so specifically,

0:43:06.920 --> 0:43:09.920
<v Speaker 3>Trump has announced effectively the full scale resumption of the

0:43:09.920 --> 0:43:14.200
<v Speaker 3>trade will which China. This started kind of out of

0:43:14.280 --> 0:43:18.160
<v Speaker 3>nowhere with Trump administration doing something that I think they

0:43:18.200 --> 0:43:21.839
<v Speaker 3>didn't think was very provocative, because I don't quite think

0:43:21.880 --> 0:43:25.080
<v Speaker 3>they understood the magnitude of what they were doing. This

0:43:25.200 --> 0:43:29.800
<v Speaker 3>basically started with a Trump administration massively increasing export restrictions

0:43:29.800 --> 0:43:33.400
<v Speaker 3>to China by changing the rules of what companies are

0:43:33.400 --> 0:43:35.480
<v Speaker 3>covered by what's called the Entity List, which is a

0:43:35.520 --> 0:43:37.840
<v Speaker 3>list of companies that American companies are not allowed to

0:43:37.880 --> 0:43:42.120
<v Speaker 3>sell goods and services to. The administration moved this to

0:43:42.200 --> 0:43:45.080
<v Speaker 3>include any company that is fifty percent or more owned

0:43:45.080 --> 0:43:48.000
<v Speaker 3>by a company on the export list. We've discussed on

0:43:48.040 --> 0:43:50.080
<v Speaker 3>the show before that a significant part of the structure

0:43:50.120 --> 0:43:53.439
<v Speaker 3>of Chinese corporate conglomerates are held together by a bunch

0:43:53.480 --> 0:43:55.880
<v Speaker 3>of different companies, you know, having partial ownership by the

0:43:55.920 --> 0:43:58.640
<v Speaker 3>same holding companies, which is what sort of binds companies

0:43:58.640 --> 0:44:01.440
<v Speaker 3>and conglomerates together into race them into the management structure

0:44:01.440 --> 0:44:04.920
<v Speaker 3>of the conglomerates. This is how Chinese state owned enterprises work.

0:44:05.200 --> 0:44:08.200
<v Speaker 3>Being state owned enterprise literally means that you are partly

0:44:08.360 --> 0:44:11.080
<v Speaker 3>or completely owned by a holding company run by SASSAK,

0:44:11.160 --> 0:44:14.880
<v Speaker 3>which is the state owned Asset Supervision and Administration Commission

0:44:14.880 --> 0:44:16.960
<v Speaker 3>of the State Council, because every name of the CCP

0:44:17.120 --> 0:44:20.239
<v Speaker 3>is like that. So this shift to anything that's fifty

0:44:20.280 --> 0:44:22.360
<v Speaker 3>percent or more owned by a company on this list

0:44:22.520 --> 0:44:26.800
<v Speaker 3>is actually a massive export restriction, and the Chinese government

0:44:26.880 --> 0:44:30.160
<v Speaker 3>took this as okay, we're starting the trade war again,

0:44:30.520 --> 0:44:33.040
<v Speaker 3>so very quickly. There's a whole bunch of different tat

0:44:33.080 --> 0:44:34.960
<v Speaker 3>things that we're not going to track the order of

0:44:35.080 --> 0:44:38.320
<v Speaker 3>because they kind of don't matter. But on October tenth,

0:44:38.360 --> 0:44:41.520
<v Speaker 3>Trump made a Twitter post where he said that he

0:44:41.600 --> 0:44:43.480
<v Speaker 3>was going to implement a one hundred percent tariff and

0:44:43.480 --> 0:44:46.239
<v Speaker 3>also a software restriction thing we'll talk about later. Those

0:44:46.280 --> 0:44:48.759
<v Speaker 3>are supposed to go into effect on the first. He's

0:44:48.800 --> 0:44:52.280
<v Speaker 3>also been talking in the last week about bringing tariffs

0:44:52.320 --> 0:44:55.480
<v Speaker 3>up to one hundred and fifty percent. We don't have

0:44:55.640 --> 0:44:58.880
<v Speaker 3>any kind of formal executive order on that. This was

0:44:59.400 --> 0:45:03.840
<v Speaker 3>to some extent in response to China implementing massive restrictions

0:45:03.520 --> 0:45:07.080
<v Speaker 3>on the export of rare earth metals. These are crucial

0:45:07.160 --> 0:45:13.439
<v Speaker 3>to basically any kind of advanced manufacturing, industrial manufacturing, applications

0:45:13.480 --> 0:45:16.600
<v Speaker 3>everything from chips, electric cars that jet fighters. These are

0:45:16.640 --> 0:45:18.880
<v Speaker 3>set to take effect on December first. I'm going to

0:45:18.960 --> 0:45:21.359
<v Speaker 3>read this from the New York Times to get an

0:45:21.400 --> 0:45:25.439
<v Speaker 3>understanding of how large these moves are. China refines ninety

0:45:25.520 --> 0:45:28.680
<v Speaker 3>nine percent of the world's prosium, a kind of rare

0:45:28.680 --> 0:45:30.960
<v Speaker 3>earth metal that is used in chips to preserve magnetic

0:45:31.000 --> 0:45:34.200
<v Speaker 3>stability even when they become hot. In the last few years,

0:45:34.560 --> 0:45:38.040
<v Speaker 3>Nvidia and other semi conductor manufacturers have changed the materials

0:45:38.120 --> 0:45:41.840
<v Speaker 3>used in electricity management devices called capacitors, which is a

0:45:41.840 --> 0:45:43.799
<v Speaker 3>really funny way to describe a capacitor, by the way,

0:45:43.840 --> 0:45:47.600
<v Speaker 3>but on chips to make them more heat resistant. The

0:45:47.640 --> 0:45:51.400
<v Speaker 3>capacitors are made from ultra pure dysprosium, which is extremely

0:45:51.440 --> 0:45:55.440
<v Speaker 3>difficult to refine. A single refinery in Wushi, near Shanghai

0:45:55.480 --> 0:45:59.680
<v Speaker 3>produces the entire world's supply, so prove New York Times.

0:45:59.680 --> 0:46:03.920
<v Speaker 3>These support restrictions include any good that is produced with

0:46:04.040 --> 0:46:07.680
<v Speaker 3>these rare earth metals, and require foreign companies operating in China,

0:46:07.760 --> 0:46:10.759
<v Speaker 3>like for example, Samsung or any of the sort of

0:46:10.760 --> 0:46:14.440
<v Speaker 3>South Korean or Taiwanese chip manufacturers to acquire export licenses

0:46:15.040 --> 0:46:18.120
<v Speaker 3>to you know, like sell them to any other country

0:46:18.120 --> 0:46:24.600
<v Speaker 3>that's not China. That is a absolutely massive restriction on

0:46:25.239 --> 0:46:28.120
<v Speaker 3>export goods. And also again a whole bunch of critical

0:46:28.120 --> 0:46:33.920
<v Speaker 3>minerals that both the American military apparatus relies on and

0:46:34.080 --> 0:46:38.120
<v Speaker 3>the American tech apparatus relies on. AI chips need a

0:46:38.120 --> 0:46:41.640
<v Speaker 3>whole bunch of these things. So you know, in the

0:46:41.640 --> 0:46:45.440
<v Speaker 3>middle of this process, the US also started charging Chinese

0:46:45.480 --> 0:46:49.120
<v Speaker 3>built ships for docking at US ports, which China retaliated

0:46:49.120 --> 0:46:52.360
<v Speaker 3>by imposing docking fees for American ships. I'm going to

0:46:52.440 --> 0:46:54.719
<v Speaker 3>go and read from New York Times here. The new

0:46:54.800 --> 0:46:57.919
<v Speaker 3>rules are the most stringent for Chinese shipping companies, which

0:46:57.920 --> 0:47:01.040
<v Speaker 3>for the most part, cannot avoid the levies. HSBC, an

0:47:01.040 --> 0:47:05.920
<v Speaker 3>investment bank, estimated that Costco not that Costco different one,

0:47:06.120 --> 0:47:08.520
<v Speaker 3>a large Chinese shipping line, could pay one point five

0:47:08.560 --> 0:47:11.080
<v Speaker 3>billion dollars in fees next year, which the bank said

0:47:11.080 --> 0:47:14.640
<v Speaker 3>could reduce Costco's operating earnings by nearly three fourths in

0:47:14.719 --> 0:47:17.960
<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty six. And again, it's it's worth it's worth

0:47:18.000 --> 0:47:21.640
<v Speaker 3>noting that these shipping, these shipping companies are the backbone

0:47:21.640 --> 0:47:24.719
<v Speaker 3>of global trade. They also their margins are not very

0:47:24.719 --> 0:47:27.520
<v Speaker 3>good and a significant number of them basically only didn't

0:47:27.880 --> 0:47:33.720
<v Speaker 3>go under dream lock during the lockdowns because they effectively

0:47:34.040 --> 0:47:37.960
<v Speaker 3>lied on their loan applications and we're just sort of

0:47:38.000 --> 0:47:41.200
<v Speaker 3>putting in their revenue as if the lockdowns weren't happening.

0:47:41.640 --> 0:47:44.640
<v Speaker 3>So this is all very very fragile infrastructure that is

0:47:45.160 --> 0:47:49.040
<v Speaker 3>being you know, attacked, and these these port fees are

0:47:49.040 --> 0:47:49.600
<v Speaker 3>already in.

0:47:49.520 --> 0:47:53.600
<v Speaker 2>Effect me doing gay cruising on my European trip. Yeah,

0:47:53.640 --> 0:47:56.719
<v Speaker 2>I like global trade, all right, I continue.

0:47:57.000 --> 0:48:01.520
<v Speaker 3>Oh god, okay, So we also got to report today.

0:48:01.640 --> 0:48:04.920
<v Speaker 3>This is Wednesday, the twenty seconds this is being reported,

0:48:04.960 --> 0:48:07.239
<v Speaker 3>so who fucking knows what will be happening by the

0:48:07.239 --> 0:48:09.600
<v Speaker 3>time this episode comes out. But on Wednesday, we've got

0:48:09.640 --> 0:48:12.880
<v Speaker 3>to report from Reuters about the other one of the

0:48:12.880 --> 0:48:17.320
<v Speaker 3>other options that Trump administration is considering for these massive

0:48:17.360 --> 0:48:21.000
<v Speaker 3>sort of trade attacks on China. So I said, I

0:48:21.040 --> 0:48:23.960
<v Speaker 3>said earlier when I talked about the one hundred percent tariff,

0:48:24.680 --> 0:48:30.160
<v Speaker 3>Trump also mentioned a software export ban. So perb Reuters,

0:48:31.200 --> 0:48:34.080
<v Speaker 3>what's being considered here, and again we have note we

0:48:34.120 --> 0:48:37.719
<v Speaker 3>have very few concrete details about this. This hasn't been

0:48:37.800 --> 0:48:41.120
<v Speaker 3>formally announced, my guests, is that it's being leaked to

0:48:41.200 --> 0:48:44.440
<v Speaker 3>routers by the administration, but I just don't know. But

0:48:44.640 --> 0:48:48.880
<v Speaker 3>what they're considering basically is a version of the sanctions

0:48:48.880 --> 0:48:52.760
<v Speaker 3>that effectively Biden applied to Russia after the invasion of Ukraine,

0:48:53.200 --> 0:48:56.800
<v Speaker 3>which restricts the export of any product made with US software.

0:48:57.480 --> 0:49:01.000
<v Speaker 3>This would be probably the most significant developments of the

0:49:01.120 --> 0:49:05.759
<v Speaker 3>entire trade war. And so these are all incredibly significant escalations.

0:49:06.080 --> 0:49:07.680
<v Speaker 3>A bunch of the stuff is set to go into

0:49:07.680 --> 0:49:12.840
<v Speaker 3>effect on November first, which is very very soon now.

0:49:13.160 --> 0:49:15.839
<v Speaker 3>In theory, Trump and Chi Jianping are supposed to meet

0:49:16.400 --> 0:49:20.000
<v Speaker 3>at the meeting of the Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation Forum

0:49:20.080 --> 0:49:22.719
<v Speaker 3>in South Korea, but there's been no formal announcements of

0:49:22.760 --> 0:49:25.600
<v Speaker 3>their meeting. Trumps that he was going to go to

0:49:25.680 --> 0:49:29.160
<v Speaker 3>China and early next year, but that's again next year.

0:49:29.440 --> 0:49:32.080
<v Speaker 3>The American one hundred percent tariff again November first. The

0:49:32.160 --> 0:49:35.880
<v Speaker 3>Chinese export restrictions on rare earth metals again December first.

0:49:36.120 --> 0:49:36.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:49:37.400 --> 0:49:41.080
<v Speaker 3>The other issue here is that the actual event starts

0:49:41.160 --> 0:49:43.400
<v Speaker 3>on October thirty first, and the first terrorists was supposed

0:49:43.400 --> 0:49:44.879
<v Speaker 3>to going to affect the next day.

0:49:45.360 --> 0:49:47.000
<v Speaker 2>Very spooky, very spooky, indeed.

0:49:48.000 --> 0:49:51.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and so Trump is mad also about China refusing

0:49:51.880 --> 0:49:56.120
<v Speaker 3>to buy American soybeans story we've been covering. Yeah, and

0:49:56.280 --> 0:49:59.239
<v Speaker 3>you know, he's complaining about the rare earth metal soft

0:49:59.239 --> 0:50:02.879
<v Speaker 3>and he's complaining about he's still yelling about fence and all.

0:50:03.400 --> 0:50:05.799
<v Speaker 3>But it's also worth mentioning one of the fascinating things

0:50:05.880 --> 0:50:09.600
<v Speaker 3>is Trump is continuing to piss off even more parts

0:50:09.600 --> 0:50:12.439
<v Speaker 3>of his base with this stuff. So soybean farmers, which

0:50:12.480 --> 0:50:15.960
<v Speaker 3>is again a huge portion of American farmers, are really

0:50:15.960 --> 0:50:19.279
<v Speaker 3>mad at him. He's also pissing off cattle ranchers, So

0:50:19.440 --> 0:50:21.640
<v Speaker 3>both the soybean farmers and the cattle ranchers are mad

0:50:21.680 --> 0:50:23.600
<v Speaker 3>at Trump for giving a bunch of money to Argentina

0:50:23.640 --> 0:50:25.440
<v Speaker 3>and not giving them a bunch of money and cutting

0:50:25.440 --> 0:50:27.960
<v Speaker 3>off their ACKs to Chinese markets because Argentina again is

0:50:28.000 --> 0:50:30.040
<v Speaker 3>selling a whole bunch of stuff to China. One of

0:50:30.080 --> 0:50:32.160
<v Speaker 3>the things that they sell to China is beef, because

0:50:32.239 --> 0:50:35.360
<v Speaker 3>Argentina is a major beef exporter. So they're all really

0:50:35.400 --> 0:50:39.319
<v Speaker 3>mad at him for giving Argentina a giant bailout in

0:50:39.400 --> 0:50:41.839
<v Speaker 3>order to try to save they're failing economy under their

0:50:42.560 --> 0:50:47.160
<v Speaker 3>unhinged an arco capitalist and president who has annihilated the

0:50:47.239 --> 0:50:51.000
<v Speaker 3>economy even more than it was before. And then Trump's

0:50:51.000 --> 0:50:53.200
<v Speaker 3>response to the cattle ranchers being mad at him was

0:50:53.280 --> 0:50:55.839
<v Speaker 3>telling them to lower their prices, which means they're even

0:50:55.880 --> 0:50:59.759
<v Speaker 3>more mad at him. So he is systematically alienating too

0:51:00.160 --> 0:51:02.600
<v Speaker 3>of what should be his most important basis of support.

0:51:02.640 --> 0:51:05.320
<v Speaker 3>And like the cattle industry has been a based Republican

0:51:05.360 --> 0:51:09.160
<v Speaker 3>support for I mean since time of Memorial. Effectively, the

0:51:09.239 --> 0:51:12.520
<v Speaker 3>lumber and vanity tariffs that we mentioned last week have

0:51:12.760 --> 0:51:17.280
<v Speaker 3>taken effect now there's been no rollback of them. And finally,

0:51:17.320 --> 0:51:19.520
<v Speaker 3>I want to close on a story that we're going

0:51:19.560 --> 0:51:23.840
<v Speaker 3>to be covering more on Monday, which is the continuing

0:51:23.960 --> 0:51:27.880
<v Speaker 3>escalation of a sort of conflict between Colombia and the

0:51:28.040 --> 0:51:33.640
<v Speaker 3>US after the US murders about full of what appeared

0:51:33.640 --> 0:51:37.400
<v Speaker 3>to be Columbian fishermen. Yes, Columbia has recalled its ambassador,

0:51:37.440 --> 0:51:40.759
<v Speaker 3>and the US has said that it is going to

0:51:41.239 --> 0:51:44.800
<v Speaker 3>eliminate all foreign aid and impose a tariff the size

0:51:44.800 --> 0:51:49.200
<v Speaker 3>of which they haven't given a consistent number. Four And

0:51:49.719 --> 0:51:53.560
<v Speaker 3>this is, you know, very much could look like a

0:51:53.600 --> 0:51:57.040
<v Speaker 3>pretty massive reorientation of American policy around Columbia, which has

0:51:57.040 --> 0:51:59.360
<v Speaker 3>traditionally been an American ally And we've ran desk squads

0:51:59.360 --> 0:52:03.439
<v Speaker 3>out of there for a very very long time. Yeah,

0:52:03.480 --> 0:52:06.640
<v Speaker 3>and that has been the lightning round rapid fire trade

0:52:06.680 --> 0:52:14.359
<v Speaker 3>war coverage because oh boy, yeah, yay, we've tariff talked.

0:52:14.680 --> 0:52:17.720
<v Speaker 2>All right. Before we close, I do want to talk

0:52:17.800 --> 0:52:21.040
<v Speaker 2>a little bit about one of the news stories this

0:52:21.080 --> 0:52:24.960
<v Speaker 2>week about US political figures being like Nazism. No, not

0:52:25.160 --> 0:52:31.320
<v Speaker 2>the main candidate, and no, not that other Republican staffer

0:52:31.320 --> 0:52:35.400
<v Speaker 2>who had a swastika in his cubicle. The political story

0:52:35.480 --> 0:52:40.799
<v Speaker 2>that reported leaked messages from the New York Young Republican

0:52:41.239 --> 0:52:44.600
<v Speaker 2>telegram chat, which already tells you that it's going to

0:52:44.640 --> 0:52:47.279
<v Speaker 2>be problematic, the fact that they have a telegram chat. Yeah,

0:52:47.520 --> 0:52:50.480
<v Speaker 2>but the Political reported that this chat contain messages about

0:52:50.520 --> 0:52:54.480
<v Speaker 2>putting political opponents in gas chambers, loving Hitler, as well

0:52:54.520 --> 0:52:57.640
<v Speaker 2>as plenty of anti semitism, talking about raping their enemies,

0:52:58.000 --> 0:53:02.040
<v Speaker 2>and hundreds of uses of homophonebic and raycistlers. The chair

0:53:02.080 --> 0:53:05.560
<v Speaker 2>of the New York State Young Republicans, Bobby Walker, allegedly

0:53:05.640 --> 0:53:09.160
<v Speaker 2>called rape epic and wrote in the chat quote if

0:53:09.160 --> 0:53:11.520
<v Speaker 2>we ever had a leak of this chat, we would

0:53:11.800 --> 0:53:19.319
<v Speaker 2>be cooked unquote. New York Republican Elise Stephanic first denounced

0:53:19.440 --> 0:53:23.840
<v Speaker 2>this chat after the report, though later called the Politico

0:53:23.960 --> 0:53:27.840
<v Speaker 2>piece a quote unquote hit job. The Matt Walsh side

0:53:27.880 --> 0:53:32.520
<v Speaker 2>of the online right condemned those who leaked the chats,

0:53:33.040 --> 0:53:37.279
<v Speaker 2>neglecting to discuss the substance of the chat itself, while

0:53:37.400 --> 0:53:41.360
<v Speaker 2>Vance largely dismissed the affair, writing on X the Everything

0:53:41.360 --> 0:53:44.560
<v Speaker 2>App quote I refused to join the pearl clutching when

0:53:44.760 --> 0:53:49.200
<v Speaker 2>powerful people call for political violence unquote. Vance falsely referred

0:53:49.200 --> 0:53:52.560
<v Speaker 2>to this as a college group chat when team members

0:53:52.560 --> 0:53:56.239
<v Speaker 2>were as old as forty years old. A day later,

0:53:56.320 --> 0:54:00.000
<v Speaker 2>while guesting on the Charlie Kirk Show, JD. Vance continue

0:54:00.239 --> 0:54:03.400
<v Speaker 2>to push back on the seriousness of this story and

0:54:03.440 --> 0:54:06.200
<v Speaker 2>play defense by repeatedly referring to the grown that involved

0:54:06.200 --> 0:54:09.279
<v Speaker 2>to our in their twenties and forties as kids and

0:54:09.480 --> 0:54:10.280
<v Speaker 2>young boys.

0:54:10.960 --> 0:54:13.359
<v Speaker 9>Somehow they got their hands on something like twenty eight

0:54:13.360 --> 0:54:17.160
<v Speaker 9>thousand messages in some group chat group chat of I

0:54:17.160 --> 0:54:19.600
<v Speaker 9>think twelve people that nobody's ever heard of. But they

0:54:19.640 --> 0:54:22.279
<v Speaker 9>decided to just publish every single thing in this chat,

0:54:22.320 --> 0:54:24.560
<v Speaker 9>whatever they found that they thought was the most salacious,

0:54:25.200 --> 0:54:28.319
<v Speaker 9>and I think ten years ago there would have been

0:54:28.360 --> 0:54:31.240
<v Speaker 9>a very different response to it. But people are starting

0:54:31.280 --> 0:54:33.680
<v Speaker 9>to learn from this and the vice president.

0:54:33.719 --> 0:54:36.040
<v Speaker 8>Is one of the reasons why I'm sorry. Focus on

0:54:36.080 --> 0:54:38.520
<v Speaker 8>the real issues, don't focus on what kids say in

0:54:38.520 --> 0:54:41.040
<v Speaker 8>group chats. But there's another angle to this that I

0:54:41.120 --> 0:54:42.960
<v Speaker 8>just have to be honest about. I mean, I'm like

0:54:43.000 --> 0:54:44.680
<v Speaker 8>an old guy at this one. I'm forty one years old.

0:54:44.680 --> 0:54:48.279
<v Speaker 8>I have three kids. You know, I grew up in

0:54:48.280 --> 0:54:51.040
<v Speaker 8>a different world, right where not most of what the

0:54:51.080 --> 0:54:52.960
<v Speaker 8>stupid things that I did when I was a teenager

0:54:53.000 --> 0:54:55.880
<v Speaker 8>and a young adult, they're not on the internet. Like

0:54:55.960 --> 0:54:59.120
<v Speaker 8>I'm going to tell my kids, especially my boys, don't

0:54:59.160 --> 0:55:01.759
<v Speaker 8>put things on the end, Like, be careful with what

0:55:01.800 --> 0:55:04.200
<v Speaker 8>you post. If you put something in a group chat,

0:55:04.320 --> 0:55:06.480
<v Speaker 8>assume that some scumbag is going to leak it in

0:55:06.480 --> 0:55:08.359
<v Speaker 8>an effort to try to cause you harm or cause

0:55:08.360 --> 0:55:11.759
<v Speaker 8>your family harm. But the reality is that kids do

0:55:11.880 --> 0:55:16.800
<v Speaker 8>stupid things, especially young boys. They tell edgy, offensive jokes,

0:55:16.840 --> 0:55:19.640
<v Speaker 8>like that's what kids do. And I really don't want

0:55:19.719 --> 0:55:21.759
<v Speaker 8>us to grow up in a country where a kid

0:55:21.840 --> 0:55:25.520
<v Speaker 8>telling a stupid joke, telling a very offensive, stupid joke

0:55:26.000 --> 0:55:28.320
<v Speaker 8>is caused to ruin their lives. And at some point

0:55:28.360 --> 0:55:31.520
<v Speaker 8>we're all going to have to say enough of this. Bs.

0:55:31.840 --> 0:55:35.160
<v Speaker 8>We're not going to allow the worst moment and a

0:55:35.320 --> 0:55:38.120
<v Speaker 8>twenty one year old's group chat to ruin a kid's

0:55:38.160 --> 0:55:39.279
<v Speaker 8>life for the rest of time.

0:55:39.520 --> 0:55:40.680
<v Speaker 1>That's just not okay.

0:55:40.960 --> 0:55:43.040
<v Speaker 8>Like, we live in a digital world. This stuff is

0:55:43.080 --> 0:55:46.200
<v Speaker 8>now etchtin stone online. We're all going to have to say,

0:55:46.200 --> 0:55:48.200
<v Speaker 8>you know what, no, no, no, we're not doing this.

0:55:48.280 --> 0:55:51.520
<v Speaker 8>We're not canceling kids because they do something stupid in

0:55:51.560 --> 0:55:53.799
<v Speaker 8>a group chat. And if I have to be the

0:55:53.800 --> 0:55:56.160
<v Speaker 8>person who carries that message forward, I'm fine with him.

0:55:56.480 --> 0:55:56.600
<v Speaker 5>Right.

0:55:56.680 --> 0:55:59.840
<v Speaker 2>Once again, most of these guys are like in their thirties.

0:55:59.880 --> 0:56:02.960
<v Speaker 2>These guys are adults. You know, the New York Young

0:56:03.000 --> 0:56:06.120
<v Speaker 2>Republicans is not a whole bunch of kids. These are young,

0:56:06.840 --> 0:56:10.640
<v Speaker 2>like political in political years, because everyone who runs the

0:56:10.680 --> 0:56:16.920
<v Speaker 2>country is quasi geriatric. Self proclaimed theocratic fascist Matt Walsh said, quote,

0:56:17.239 --> 0:56:20.919
<v Speaker 2>the right doesn't stick together. That's our biggest problem. By far,

0:56:21.280 --> 0:56:24.440
<v Speaker 2>Conservatives are quick to denounce each other, jump on dog piles,

0:56:24.480 --> 0:56:27.439
<v Speaker 2>disavow attack their allies. I said a few weeks ago

0:56:27.520 --> 0:56:30.239
<v Speaker 2>that we all need to band together in the wake

0:56:30.280 --> 0:56:32.799
<v Speaker 2>of Charlie's death, and the answer I got back from

0:56:32.800 --> 0:56:36.520
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people on the right was basically no, Well, okay,

0:56:36.520 --> 0:56:40.160
<v Speaker 2>then guys, we'll just lose. Instead, the left will keep

0:56:40.440 --> 0:56:45.080
<v Speaker 2>up the United Front and defend their guys no matter what. Well,

0:56:45.080 --> 0:56:48.640
<v Speaker 2>we keep throwing each other to the wolves at every opportunity.

0:56:48.760 --> 0:56:54.840
<v Speaker 2>Great plan. Unquote. Shapiro did beef a bit with Walsh

0:56:54.960 --> 0:56:59.440
<v Speaker 2>on one of their daily wire group podcasts regarding the

0:56:59.480 --> 0:57:03.160
<v Speaker 2>substance of these chats. Shapiro did seem more concerned at

0:57:03.200 --> 0:57:07.239
<v Speaker 2>the growing anti Semitic and not the fascistic element of

0:57:07.239 --> 0:57:11.640
<v Speaker 2>the Republican Party, whereas Walsh is does not care about

0:57:11.640 --> 0:57:14.720
<v Speaker 2>that at all. Yeah, yeah, yeah, not not a problem

0:57:14.719 --> 0:57:19.120
<v Speaker 2>for self proclaimed theocratic fascist Matt Walsh. Yeah, so that's

0:57:19.160 --> 0:57:21.680
<v Speaker 2>one side of this whole political story that I wanted

0:57:21.720 --> 0:57:23.959
<v Speaker 2>to talk about. You should just read the political piece.

0:57:24.040 --> 0:57:26.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure lots people have. It got pretty popular a

0:57:26.200 --> 0:57:29.880
<v Speaker 2>few days ago. But I find the sort of I mean,

0:57:30.000 --> 0:57:31.880
<v Speaker 2>I would have called it like the dissident right reaction,

0:57:32.000 --> 0:57:34.080
<v Speaker 2>But when you have the vice president as like, yep,

0:57:34.400 --> 0:57:36.600
<v Speaker 2>the guy leading the charge on this type of stuff,

0:57:36.640 --> 0:57:39.560
<v Speaker 2>it's not really distanct Like there is a large number

0:57:39.600 --> 0:57:43.600
<v Speaker 2>of Republicans who are condemning the contents of this chat,

0:57:44.080 --> 0:57:46.160
<v Speaker 2>but you do have the vice president of the country

0:57:46.760 --> 0:57:49.320
<v Speaker 2>playing defense for it, Yeah, and for the people involved.

0:57:49.400 --> 0:57:51.200
<v Speaker 3>And I think this is actually a very important thing

0:57:51.240 --> 0:57:54.360
<v Speaker 3>about what the structure of the Republican Party is right now,

0:57:54.400 --> 0:57:57.520
<v Speaker 3>which is these kind of low levels like staffers, right

0:57:57.880 --> 0:57:59.560
<v Speaker 3>the young Republican people, and these are a bunch of

0:57:59.560 --> 0:58:01.560
<v Speaker 3>people who are from making White House policy. You know,

0:58:01.600 --> 0:58:05.040
<v Speaker 3>Stephen Miller is, you know, the guy who's doing a

0:58:05.040 --> 0:58:07.480
<v Speaker 3>whole bunch of a whole bunch of the sort of

0:58:07.480 --> 0:58:12.280
<v Speaker 3>ethnic cleansing deportation policy right now. Are just Nazis. They're

0:58:12.480 --> 0:58:14.800
<v Speaker 3>just Nazis. And every time one of these group jets

0:58:14.800 --> 0:58:17.600
<v Speaker 3>comes out, it looks like this. And that's a really

0:58:17.640 --> 0:58:20.919
<v Speaker 3>significant factor in why American politics looks like this, which

0:58:20.920 --> 0:58:23.920
<v Speaker 3>is that like the people who are entering the Republican

0:58:23.960 --> 0:58:26.920
<v Speaker 3>Party right now, who are like their sort of youth

0:58:27.000 --> 0:58:30.880
<v Speaker 3>wing quote unquote, are these people and we're seeing their

0:58:30.920 --> 0:58:33.480
<v Speaker 3>policies get enacted. It fucking sucks.

0:58:34.160 --> 0:58:36.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's often baked in this like post ironic,

0:58:36.880 --> 0:58:40.480
<v Speaker 2>like like a joking way, where you know, obviously the Nazis,

0:58:41.600 --> 0:58:44.040
<v Speaker 2>some people in these circles say, obviously the Nazis themselves

0:58:44.040 --> 0:58:46.160
<v Speaker 2>are bad, but we're using this as like a a

0:58:46.240 --> 0:58:50.120
<v Speaker 2>medic signifier Yeah, for like nationalism and for all of

0:58:50.120 --> 0:58:51.880
<v Speaker 2>these things. Now there is a fair number of people

0:58:51.880 --> 0:58:54.960
<v Speaker 2>who just will straight up defend the Nazis, absolutely, but

0:58:55.120 --> 0:58:57.720
<v Speaker 2>I think it's it's it goes beyond, like like this

0:58:58.160 --> 0:59:01.880
<v Speaker 2>isn't German national socialism, Like it goes, it goes, it

0:59:01.920 --> 0:59:05.760
<v Speaker 2>goes beyond to like they're using Nazism as a meme

0:59:05.920 --> 0:59:09.360
<v Speaker 2>for their political project, and memes get used a lot

0:59:09.440 --> 0:59:12.400
<v Speaker 2>in these types of safe spaces where people can joke around.

0:59:12.440 --> 0:59:15.479
<v Speaker 2>So you see that very clearly here, But you also

0:59:15.480 --> 0:59:18.480
<v Speaker 2>see it on like the DHS Twitter account you use,

0:59:18.640 --> 0:59:20.680
<v Speaker 2>you see the same kind of like post ironic stuff

0:59:20.720 --> 0:59:23.880
<v Speaker 2>like a few weeks ago they were fucking moon Man posting.

0:59:24.240 --> 0:59:26.200
<v Speaker 2>You can google that one if you want to. You

0:59:26.200 --> 0:59:29.240
<v Speaker 2>don't have time to explain, but that's a very old

0:59:29.440 --> 0:59:33.800
<v Speaker 2>like internet nazi dog whistle. And you know, we've I've

0:59:33.920 --> 0:59:37.600
<v Speaker 2>talked a decent bit about my feelings on like focusing

0:59:37.640 --> 0:59:41.320
<v Speaker 2>a lot on like the DHS Twitter dog whistles. But yeah,

0:59:41.360 --> 0:59:44.240
<v Speaker 2>it is it is in invoking of this stuff for

0:59:44.360 --> 0:59:48.080
<v Speaker 2>this like mimetic like archetypal context that they surround themselves in.

0:59:48.560 --> 0:59:51.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and then you know, doing the actual thing, which

0:59:51.200 --> 0:59:53.440
<v Speaker 3>is going out and rounding up a whole bunch of

0:59:53.760 --> 0:59:57.640
<v Speaker 3>doing these ice rights now white people and like the ice.

0:59:57.440 --> 1:00:00.880
<v Speaker 2>Recruiting ads are like the clearest exac sample of using

1:00:00.920 --> 1:00:04.400
<v Speaker 2>this type of memetic imagery for their actual political project

1:00:04.440 --> 1:00:07.280
<v Speaker 2>and then to act the thing physically. And it's very

1:00:07.320 --> 1:00:12.080
<v Speaker 2>clear there because there's very little disconnected in immediate transference. Yeah,

1:00:12.120 --> 1:00:15.480
<v Speaker 2>it's a very straight line. Yeah, James, want to close

1:00:15.520 --> 1:00:17.680
<v Speaker 2>us up on the great state of Alaska.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm talking about something not so great in Alaska.

1:00:22.200 --> 1:00:23.600
<v Speaker 2>But we normally do a fundraiser at the end.

1:00:23.600 --> 1:00:25.200
<v Speaker 4>So I wanted to put this here for those of

1:00:25.200 --> 1:00:27.160
<v Speaker 4>you who are not aware, because this has really got

1:00:28.040 --> 1:00:31.720
<v Speaker 4>enough coverage, in my opinion, A massive storm, in fact,

1:00:31.760 --> 1:00:34.400
<v Speaker 4>the remnants of a typhoon slammed into the west coast

1:00:34.440 --> 1:00:38.080
<v Speaker 4>of Alaska, leaving more than a thousand people without shelter

1:00:38.200 --> 1:00:42.960
<v Speaker 4>along the Yukon Coskoquim River. These are Alaska Native villages,

1:00:43.120 --> 1:00:46.200
<v Speaker 4>and their inhabitants are now climate refugees at the very

1:00:46.240 --> 1:00:49.320
<v Speaker 4>start of winter, right in the coldest place in the

1:00:49.440 --> 1:00:54.240
<v Speaker 4>United States. These villages are very remote. I spent some

1:00:54.320 --> 1:00:57.160
<v Speaker 4>time earlier this year in Alaska Native village not here

1:00:57.200 --> 1:01:02.120
<v Speaker 4>in the interior, just in the in territories. But these

1:01:02.160 --> 1:01:07.320
<v Speaker 4>guys are really only accessible by small planes or by boats,

1:01:07.560 --> 1:01:10.760
<v Speaker 4>which will make their recovery even harder.

1:01:11.040 --> 1:01:12.880
<v Speaker 2>Right. They're people who have lived by the.

1:01:12.840 --> 1:01:15.640
<v Speaker 4>Ocean or by the river for as long as people

1:01:15.680 --> 1:01:19.520
<v Speaker 4>have lived in the Americas, tens of thousands of years. Right.

1:01:20.200 --> 1:01:23.240
<v Speaker 4>A few months ago, the Trump EPA canceled a twenty

1:01:23.360 --> 1:01:27.920
<v Speaker 4>million dollar ground for flood protection which would have covered Kipnook,

1:01:27.960 --> 1:01:31.240
<v Speaker 4>one of these villages. Kipnook now and functioning doesn't exist.

1:01:31.360 --> 1:01:33.280
<v Speaker 4>Houses were torn off their foundations.

1:01:33.360 --> 1:01:33.480
<v Speaker 6>Right.

1:01:33.640 --> 1:01:38.440
<v Speaker 4>There are multiple videos of people's whole houses floating away.

1:01:38.920 --> 1:01:41.880
<v Speaker 4>It's not just an instance of neglect or even a

1:01:41.920 --> 1:01:45.400
<v Speaker 4>single failure here, it's an example of decades of ignoring

1:01:45.400 --> 1:01:48.680
<v Speaker 4>the voices of indigenous people, especially Alaska Natives, when they

1:01:48.680 --> 1:01:50.800
<v Speaker 4>tell us that the climate crisis is real and that

1:01:50.880 --> 1:01:51.680
<v Speaker 4>it's already here.

1:01:51.960 --> 1:01:55.800
<v Speaker 2>Right. When the media looks at.

1:01:55.640 --> 1:01:59.120
<v Speaker 4>Climate change, they tend to want to look at data

1:01:59.160 --> 1:02:01.480
<v Speaker 4>they can measure in terms of numbers according to the

1:02:01.520 --> 1:02:04.600
<v Speaker 4>model of Western science. But I would argue that the

1:02:04.600 --> 1:02:06.640
<v Speaker 4>experience of Indigenous people who have lived on the land

1:02:06.680 --> 1:02:09.680
<v Speaker 4>for as long as human beings have lived anywhere on

1:02:09.680 --> 1:02:13.200
<v Speaker 4>this continent and have watched the changes and seen this

1:02:13.280 --> 1:02:16.320
<v Speaker 4>disaster unfold. Should be a warning to all of us

1:02:16.520 --> 1:02:20.160
<v Speaker 4>that the climate crisis is already here. I reached out

1:02:20.200 --> 1:02:23.160
<v Speaker 4>to some Alaska Native friends to ask where to donate,

1:02:23.440 --> 1:02:27.400
<v Speaker 4>and they shared a page which will be in the

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<v Speaker 4>show notes that the shows if you're able to help,

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's very important thing to do. Recovery for

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<v Speaker 4>these people with this federal government, with being as remote

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<v Speaker 4>as they are, will be horrifically difficult right now. Many

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<v Speaker 4>of them are living in Anchorage right Like I said,

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<v Speaker 4>they're going into the winter and then they don't have

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<v Speaker 4>a place to live. It's an unmitigated disaster. So if

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<v Speaker 4>you're able to help, I think it would be very

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