Speaker 1: Also media, Welcome back to a jacktoral dysfunction.
Speaker 2: Wait, that's the worst one yet. That's the worst one yet. Folks,
Speaker 2: we did not think it could get worse, and yet
Speaker 2: here we are.
Speaker 1: I knew it could get.
Speaker 3: Worse and always get worse.
Speaker 2: Old quitting my jobs today, This is it could happen here.
Speaker 2: Executive Disorder, our weekly newscast covering what's happening in the
Speaker 2: White House, the crumbling world, and what it means for you.
Speaker 2: I'm Garrison Davis today, joined by Ejaculator in Jesus right.
Speaker 1: Wow, garis Garrison. That's much worse. You made it way worse.
Speaker 2: How many of those videos have you not watched?
Speaker 1: Get I think we're all pretty behind on the required trainings.
Speaker 3: Labor conditions are intolerable.
Speaker 2: Robert Evans, James Stout, and Mio Wong. This episode, we
Speaker 2: are covering the week of October fifteenth to October twenty second,
Speaker 2: and a little bit of the week before because we
Speaker 2: were off in honor of the government shutdown. We ourselves
Speaker 2: took a week off because the CIA stopped paying us.
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. I've always considered us a branch
Speaker 1: of the US government.
Speaker 4: You know, yeah, you and half of the anime people
Speaker 4: on Twitter robots.
Speaker 2: We're back. I don't know, it feels a little bit
Speaker 2: weird to be doing this White House Weekly episode knowing
Speaker 2: that there's actually less White House than usual there is.
Speaker 2: Trump has begun demolishing the East wing of the White
Speaker 2: House to build a privately fund a two hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty million dollar ballroom, and I think we should all
Speaker 2: have a moment of silence for the East Wing.
Speaker 4: Oh.
Speaker 1: I was going to say a moment of celebration because
Speaker 1: now James's people can finally shake hands with the United
Speaker 1: States government and destroying large portions of the White House.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I saw it was a Volvo excavator today, so we
Speaker 4: also got the Swedes on board. I guess sure couldn't
Speaker 4: even find an American excavator. Sad we don't make things
Speaker 4: in this anymore.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's because we're still waiting for the tariffs to
Speaker 2: get fully fully enacted.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, once we get that Swedish tariff on. We are
Speaker 2: almost four weeks now into the government shutdown and there's
Speaker 2: not really a clear end in sight, and Snap Benefits
Speaker 2: food stamps are set to run out in a little
Speaker 2: over a week on November first, Mia, did you want
Speaker 2: to say something on this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So we've been seeing sort of tech start to
Speaker 3: go out to people who are on food assistants in
Speaker 3: various states. There's one circulating from Minnesota that is saying
Speaker 3: that the food part of SNAP Benefits are going to
Speaker 3: shut down in a few days on November first, when
Speaker 3: the funding shuts down. This is a critical lifeline for
Speaker 3: food for an extremely large number of people. And this
Speaker 3: is also coming in a period where food banks are
Speaker 3: already being stressed by just the other cuts to SNAP
Speaker 3: and other food assistants programs that have already taken place. So, yeah,
Speaker 3: we're coming to a very very critical moment in terms
Speaker 3: of wide scale food insecurity in this country for a
Speaker 3: whole bunch of the most vulnerable people in the country.
Speaker 3: And yeah, this is a good moment for if you
Speaker 3: have actual access to food, which is a very very
Speaker 3: bleak thing to be saying, but you know, something is
Speaker 3: going to have to try to pick up the slack
Speaker 3: or a bunch of people aren't going to eat right,
Speaker 3: and that's probably going to have to be us, because
Speaker 3: it's first fuck not going to be the government.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, and yeah, it's just the people's need to
Speaker 1: eat is inelastic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: Just to put some numbers on it, like SNAP in
Speaker 4: twenty four was forty one point seven million people, which
Speaker 4: is about twelve percent of the US population.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a massive cliff.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's particularly bad in certain states. For example, Oregon,
Speaker 1: you know where I live, is set to lose about
Speaker 1: three quarters of a million people's SNAP benefits. There are
Speaker 1: like four million people in the state.
Speaker 2: Yep, yep.
Speaker 3: And it's also like those people are also disproportionately non
Speaker 3: white and disapportionate clearly and very disapportionately trans Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And this is something that if straight up the shutdown
Speaker 3: continues and we don't see not benefits payout, this could
Speaker 3: also be a major source of instability because you know,
Speaker 3: the thing that happens very quickly when suddenly forty million
Speaker 3: people don't have food is bread riots. What is going
Speaker 3: to happen with that is deeply unclear, but yeah, we're
Speaker 3: heading into an extremely bleak time.
Speaker 1: If you're looking at predictors of violent instability in countries, yeah,
Speaker 1: mass starvation is about top of the list.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yep.
Speaker 3: Particularly bread riots usually are in sort of modern era,
Speaker 3: happens with two or three hundred percent increases in food prices,
Speaker 3: usually as a result of sort of im mass structural adjustments.
Speaker 3: But if there was going to be another one, this
Speaker 3: would be it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's worth sort of being prepared on both
Speaker 3: ends in terms of feeding people and also yeah, with
Speaker 3: whatever was going to happen with this cuts out.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Meanwhile, during during all of this, during the shutdown
Speaker 2: and during snaps taking clock, Trump wants his Justice Department
Speaker 2: to pay himself two hundred and thirty million dollars in
Speaker 2: compensation for damages coming from past investigations into him.
Speaker 1: Seems fair.
Speaker 2: Trump claims that he will give this money to quote
Speaker 2: unquote charity. Seems real clear what that means, what charity
Speaker 2: that will be, how that will really qualify as a
Speaker 2: charitable donation. But he is currently seeking two hundred and
Speaker 2: thirty million dollars of government money to be paid back
Speaker 2: to himself. In the end, it will be him making
Speaker 2: the final call on this, which he says he feels
Speaker 2: strange about.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, it's good.
Speaker 2: You know, he's an honest man, you know, it's great.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we we just fully entered the looting. The
Speaker 3: storehouse is part of the regime.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're taking a very British approach.
Speaker 1: Looting is is putting this too mildly?
Speaker 2: Yeah, And if you.
Speaker 3: See the article about the plans to let AI companies
Speaker 3: apply to get old weapons grade plutonium to fuel the
Speaker 3: nuclear reactors.
Speaker 1: That seems fine. That's what I trust Sam Altman weapons
Speaker 1: grade plutonium. Yeah, he's gonna use that safely.
Speaker 3: Yeah, hopefully the air bubble collapses before they get.
Speaker 1: You know what a great attitude to approach having weapons
Speaker 1: grade plutonium is move fast and break rain.
Speaker 4: Oh god, this is great. It's this week. We're announcing
Speaker 4: the start of Kood's Force AI.
Speaker 1: There we go, bring it on, God.
Speaker 2: Break breaking news. US sanction has been placed against two
Speaker 2: of Russia's largest oil companies in an effort to pressure
Speaker 2: the Ukraine Russia piece deal, which Putin just backed out
Speaker 2: of negotiations from as there was plans for him and
Speaker 2: Trump to meet. So that just happened.
Speaker 1: Sexy not sexy. So I think one of the first
Speaker 1: things we want to cover right now, just because this
Speaker 1: is maybe the number one thing I'm seeing people talk
Speaker 1: about on social media right now, is there have been
Speaker 1: articles written about ICE's new weapons budget. Famously their budget
Speaker 1: is increased by seeing like seven hundred percent. A huge
Speaker 1: amount of that's being spent on bonuses in order to
Speaker 1: get people to join, cash payments and whatnot, as well
Speaker 1: as retention bonuses, but a lot more of it's being
Speaker 1: spent on weapons. And right now, the number one thing
Speaker 1: I'm seeing people freak out about is the supposed idea
Speaker 1: from these documents that ICE is purchasing guided missiles and
Speaker 1: chemical weapons. I have heard people say this is ICE,
Speaker 1: which is obviously Trump's SS, you know, making their own
Speaker 1: vafen SS, which were the armed units of the SS.
Speaker 1: I'm seeing a lot of shit like this spread, and
Speaker 1: as James is going to tell you, none of that's true. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, the fact that ICE has a massive increase
Speaker 1: in budget and is buying a shit little weapons is true.
Speaker 1: But they're not guided missiles.
Speaker 2: I doesn't matter what heat guided missiles. Yeah, we're not
Speaker 2: getting a deathhead ICE ICE unit. Come on at the
Speaker 2: next Canal Street ICE rate, they're going to be launching
Speaker 2: heat seeking missiles into Chinatown.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying this isn't a problem, but it's not
Speaker 1: what people are saying it is. Yeah, sorry, James, all right.
Speaker 4: The source of its claim is a substack page called
Speaker 4: popular Information run by a guy called Juddlygum, and he
Speaker 4: has claimed in this piece, I'm just going to quote
Speaker 4: the ICE post purchase quote chemical weapons, and quote guided
Speaker 4: missile warheads and explosive components. I guess the main thrust
Speaker 4: of the piece was looking at the fact that ICE
Speaker 4: spent nine million dollars on geistly ar pattern rifles Patrol
Speaker 4: spent more than twice that he appears to have missed
Speaker 4: that in his reporting. This reporting is extremely dishonest. To
Speaker 4: put it mildly, it's either deliberately misleading or massively incompetent.
Speaker 4: The piece in question doesn't link to the individual contracts, which,
Speaker 4: like on the face of its bad form, right, if
Speaker 4: you're going to be talking about contracts, your contracts are
Speaker 4: in the public domain, just linked to them. The piece
Speaker 4: doesn't do that. I went on USA spending dot gov
Speaker 4: and a filtered by contracts that have been awarded by ICE.
Speaker 2: I gave date range.
Speaker 4: The date range are pertained to the things being discussed
Speaker 4: in the article, and then I filtered by the product
Speaker 4: or service code for chemical weapons and guided missile warheads. Right,
Speaker 4: two different products or service codes. Product or service codes
Speaker 4: are like these, these four digit codes that exist in
Speaker 4: federal procurement right to put things into buckets basically, and
Speaker 4: I found the contracts. The contract very clearly states the
Speaker 4: guided missile quote unquote contract. The contract with the guided
Speaker 4: missis cell product or service code very clearly states it
Speaker 4: is for multiple distraction devices. Yeah, it's a contract with
Speaker 4: a company called Quantico Tactical. I did call them yesterday,
Speaker 4: something that again any competent reporter should do before publishing
Speaker 4: a piece that does not appear to have been done
Speaker 4: by the substat guy. They gave me an email. I
Speaker 4: sent it email more than twenty four hours ago, requesting
Speaker 4: comment or clarification. I didn't receive a response at the
Speaker 4: time of us going to press. If I hit back
Speaker 4: from them before we release this, I will let you
Speaker 4: all know the chemical weapons. It was OC spray, it
Speaker 4: WASAB spray, right, And a distraction device.
Speaker 1: By the way, folks, this is something like like a
Speaker 1: sonic grenade, which sounds crazy, but it's a grenade that
Speaker 1: makes a loud noise to distract.
Speaker 3: To bang.
Speaker 1: A flash bang is also a distraction device when you
Speaker 1: used the way that they're use in riots. You know,
Speaker 1: it's a little bit of a different thing when you're
Speaker 1: using one to like breach bang and clear a door
Speaker 1: or something. But like when you're throwing a flash bang
Speaker 1: at a riot, it's a distraction device because the is
Speaker 1: you've got a bunch of people moving towards an area
Speaker 1: you want to stop them from You distract them by an.
Speaker 2: Explosion, you know. Yeah, and it's distracting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's also and this is you know, one of
Speaker 3: the one of the frustrating elements about this is that
Speaker 3: Ice has been using a whole bunch of these to
Speaker 3: blow down people's doors. It's really horrible.
Speaker 1: There are problems. It's problems that they're buying all.
Speaker 3: This and no one is talking about it because everyone's
Speaker 3: focused on this.
Speaker 1: When James put up their initial research just on a
Speaker 1: Blue Sky and Twitter, I shared it and people were like,
Speaker 1: it's still a problem they've got that they're getting all
Speaker 1: buying all these new weapons. Do you not care about? Yes?
Speaker 1: I care about that. You're not talking about that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we care about They're talking about a fantasy like and like.
Speaker 4: It is bad that Ice has flash bangs and pepper spray, right,
Speaker 4: I have personally broadcasts how they exists like you can
Speaker 4: go back only a few months and here ice flash
Speaker 4: bangs on this podcast, like recorded by me in person.
Speaker 4: We know they fucking have them because they were throwing
Speaker 4: them at me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've lost count of how many have hit me directly.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we've got to at least seventy five percent fucking federal
Speaker 4: government flashbang impact, you know. Like I want to take
Speaker 4: second guess to talk about incentives here because this really
Speaker 4: pisses me off. Yeah, And I think that the way
Speaker 4: we build trust in the media is through openness, and
Speaker 4: I think that we do that better than most and
Speaker 4: I'm going to try and do that here, just so
Speaker 4: you know, none of us make any extra money if
Speaker 4: more people download this podcast, at least not directly. Right,
Speaker 4: we do not have a direct incentive to make fantastical
Speaker 4: claims that will lead to people downloading our podcast and
Speaker 4: being afraid that is not true for people who have
Speaker 4: these substick outlets, right Like, Like.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll let me clarify, we do have a
Speaker 1: direct financial interest in there being traffic, right, because that
Speaker 1: is that's how we make our money, right like, and
Speaker 1: that's how we justify getting raisers and stuff. So, like
Speaker 1: everyone in media if more people listen to our stuff,
Speaker 1: like we do have a financial interest in that over time,
Speaker 1: not checking week to week to see if we're getting
Speaker 1: if what we're doing is bringing us in more direct money, right, Like,
Speaker 1: that's just not the way our thing works.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and when people are on their own, they're doing
Speaker 4: these subs a catet there, there is a very real
Speaker 4: incentive to do that, right.
Speaker 2: We also have a team here, We fact check each other.
Speaker 1: We do our best. We fuck up sometimes, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we fuck up sometimes, so we're honest about it when
Speaker 1: we do right, we acknowledge it. Yeah, we acknowledge when
Speaker 1: James makes mistakes.
Speaker 4: Thank you, guys, you're the least You're the least mistake
Speaker 4: person here's extremely careful about that ship. Well, I've stood
Speaker 4: on my fucking pedestal enough about this. But yeah, it's
Speaker 4: bad right that things that I saw buying that Ice
Speaker 4: is really buying are semi automatic rs, more clocks, a
Speaker 4: lot of soft body armor, red dot sites quote unquote
Speaker 4: crowd control munitions. Right, sort of spending you see from
Speaker 4: a special forces unit that are very not special like
Speaker 4: like police agency, right, Like like that's just spending, Like
Speaker 4: they have an open checkbook.
Speaker 1: Like Ice is continuing to buy the same weapons with
Speaker 1: which they have been hurting people the entirety almost of
Speaker 1: the twenty first century, and they're hurting more people now
Speaker 1: and will be hurting even more people in the future
Speaker 1: because they will have even more money. And that's bad.
Speaker 1: And you don't, like, what would they even do with
Speaker 1: a guided missiles?
Speaker 4: It doesn't make sense on the face for it's sixty
Speaker 4: one grand. Yeah, the fuck do you think you're getting
Speaker 4: for sixty one grand from a company in quantic? You
Speaker 4: tried buying guided missiles in this economy? People, It's just ludicrous, man,
Speaker 4: What the fuck they think they're going like like Tomahawk,
Speaker 4: I know, like a strawberry picking facility, Like it's ludicrous,
Speaker 4: it's fucking ridiculous, a chemical weapon.
Speaker 1: I mean, you can talk about Substack and they're being
Speaker 1: fucked up things about the company. But like, honestly, I
Speaker 1: think that it's overstated. But I think people focus on
Speaker 1: that extent of like, well, yeah, which of them aren't
Speaker 1: What where is the non Nazi social media company that
Speaker 1: has any kind of reach?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 1: But that's really not even the point I care to make.
Speaker 1: What I will say, the problem here is not even
Speaker 1: just that like when people are working for an audience
Speaker 1: like that, we're week to week, however, many people are
Speaker 1: donating and whatnot kind of can incentivize you to follow
Speaker 1: certain rabbit holes and push certain things. I think one
Speaker 1: of the bigger problems is that what you have is
Speaker 1: a generation very of the most talented and successful journalists
Speaker 1: in terms of their skill of like writing and their
Speaker 1: ability to build an audience that follows them. Those people
Speaker 1: have all moved to a platform where they by default
Speaker 1: don't have an editor, and like every journalist worth they're solved.
Speaker 1: I've had my fights and frustrations with editors at a
Speaker 1: variety of publications, and sometimes they're knowing, and sometimes editors suck,
Speaker 1: and sometimes publications a big part of what they're doing
Speaker 1: is just trying to water down your shit. But that's
Speaker 1: not the only thing editors do. A major thing editors
Speaker 1: do is point out, Hey, I get that you're really
Speaker 1: into this, and I get that you find this compelling,
Speaker 1: but as an objective observer, I'm seeing this hole in
Speaker 1: this hole in this hole, and you need to, for example,
Speaker 1: haul these people and make sure that this because it
Speaker 1: doesn't look like this is actually a guided missile it
Speaker 1: looks like somebody just fucked up putting in a code.
Speaker 1: We need to check on this so we can state
Speaker 1: it to a point of certainty. That's what an editor
Speaker 1: should be doing, right, Yeah.
Speaker 4: Even if they're responsible journalist, Like I wouldn't have submitted
Speaker 4: that piece to an editor without having checked that first. Like, sure,
Speaker 4: it took me five minutes to cool them. I should
Speaker 4: add that the PFCs in question for grenades and warheads
Speaker 4: are one digit different, right again.
Speaker 1: Right, which is which is what happened here?
Speaker 2: It certainly looks that way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and again this is why part of how
Speaker 1: responsible journalism is supposed to work is that you never
Speaker 1: have just one eye on a story, because every journalist
Speaker 1: will inevitably miss things if you're doing that, right, That's
Speaker 1: why you are supposed to The idea is to have
Speaker 1: multiple eyes on a thing so that oh, hey it
Speaker 1: looks like you skipped over this, or hey it just
Speaker 1: occurred to me. I have this question that is not
Speaker 1: being answered, and you make a couple of phone calls,
Speaker 1: throw in another sentence, and then that's a thing that
Speaker 1: we're answering, a thing we're accounting for. And if you
Speaker 1: don't have that the work isn't as good.
Speaker 4: Yeah. No, Look, I'm not saying there were not things to.
Speaker 1: Be afraid of that are No one's saying that yet.
Speaker 4: But I want people to be afraid of the right thing,
Speaker 4: so like they're not gonna lob you people.
Speaker 2: I don't think we're really going to be safe until
Speaker 2: there's an iron dome over every Home Depot.
Speaker 1: Garrettson. I've been saying that for years. But that's also
Speaker 1: because I would like to start a limited missile war
Speaker 1: against the Home Depot Corporation. But I've been taking Low's
Speaker 1: money for years.
Speaker 4: Yeah, on behalf of flows. Yeah, I'm on teammates Hadways.
Speaker 4: I'll see you on the battlefield, Robert.
Speaker 1: At least we don't have any Harbor Freight people.
Speaker 4: Actually actually a massive Harbor Freight guy James says, have
Speaker 4: Harbor Fray like literally behind me.
Speaker 1: I mean, then I think about Harbor Freight is buying
Speaker 1: one thing and then returning it exactly eleven months after
Speaker 1: buying it once you've broken it, and just having a
Speaker 1: perpetual whatever.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, everything that I bought from Harbor Freight has started smoking.
Speaker 1: Everything breaks that you buy from Harbor Freight. But the
Speaker 1: return policy is amazing.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: The question is will it break before or after you've
Speaker 4: used it enough to justify buying something more expensive.
Speaker 2: And the answer is yes, James, can you do a
Speaker 2: product and service code ad break kids based on your
Speaker 2: investigation here and Adam, you can keep this in you
Speaker 2: can you can show them how the sauce is made here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just in terms of honesty here we go. Okay, right,
Speaker 4: give me give me a second here. I got to
Speaker 4: think of something good.
Speaker 2: You fucked it.
Speaker 4: I was just gonna do talking products and services and
Speaker 4: you ruined it. Garrison, if you are in the market
Speaker 4: for a distraction ad vice, guided warhead or chemical weapon,
Speaker 4: let's hope that you get an advert for one of
Speaker 4: those in this commercial break. That's right, people, welcome back
Speaker 4: to the Iranian regime. I hope you got what you wanted.
Speaker 1: Yes, this podcast is the only podcast entirely supported by
Speaker 1: the Ayatola and yeah, praise him.
Speaker 2: The CIA and the Iotola have finally unique.
Speaker 4: I had the clasping hands menimo from Robert Evans. Legally speaking,
Speaker 4: that is a joke. We are not funded by the
Speaker 4: Iranian regime. We're all monarchs.
Speaker 2: Think for yourself there, talk about let's talk about the
Speaker 2: national card.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Sure.
Speaker 2: On Monday, his past Monday, the Ninth circond Quarter of
Speaker 2: Appeals have ruled in favor of the Trump administration, halting
Speaker 2: a court order denying the federalization and deployment of the
Speaker 2: Oregon National Guard. Had two to one ruling on a
Speaker 2: three panel hearing with two trumpetpointed judges. They called Trump's
Speaker 2: plan to deploy troops to the ice Building in Portland
Speaker 2: a quote unquote measured response. Now there is a second
Speaker 2: tro preventing out of state National Guard from deploying to Portland,
Speaker 2: and this appears to still be in effect, but its
Speaker 2: fate is unknown. The Justice Department has requested the original
Speaker 2: judge suspend the order, though the Ninth Circuit itself is
Speaker 2: considering whether a larger panel should rehear this entire case. Currently,
Speaker 2: there is no immediate plans for Oregon National Guard to
Speaker 2: be deployed, but they do now have the go ahead.
Speaker 2: But this is still a developing situation. But that's an
Speaker 2: important update there. Let's talk about the two fifty celebration
Speaker 2: treel seeing Happy birthday no worthy to the Marines, Yes, yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh god, yeah, Happy Birthday of the Marine Corps. I
Speaker 1: hope today you guys get to eat a lot of crayons.
Speaker 2: Have a cake which is shaped like a giant crown. No,
Speaker 2: it just is made out of giant crown and we
Speaker 2: all remove our tote CoV tattoos. That's going to be
Speaker 2: the Marine party.
Speaker 1: Get get rid of those Scout snipers. It's jet sawst.
Speaker 2: But no, there was the Marines two hundred and fifty
Speaker 2: a celebration with JD Vance last week where they did
Speaker 2: play Hell Diver to music during the celebration. Was a
Speaker 2: happy birthday, And I'm still not clear what hell Diver is.
Speaker 2: Hell divers is a satirical video game, et cetera. Is
Speaker 2: a fascist military that fights for quote unquote democracy against
Speaker 2: others so called fascists.
Speaker 3: Sorry, managed democracy very important, that's true.
Speaker 1: It's true, yes, managed demand.
Speaker 2: I have heard of it from the news headlines such
Speaker 2: as Charlie Kirk shot. But yeah, it's basically like playing
Speaker 2: Starship Troopers music over the Marine Corps celebration party. That's
Speaker 2: kind of the caliber we're operating in here. Yeah, thank
Speaker 2: you for bringing that to my generational understanding. There you go. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I appreciate it.
Speaker 4: Talking to the Marine Corps two undred fiftieth birthday. On Saturday,
Speaker 4: a one to fifty five shells one hundred and fifty
Speaker 4: five minuimeter Howitzer shell prematurely detonated over the five Freeway
Speaker 4: outside of Pendleton.
Speaker 1: Right, not stuff, crazy shit.
Speaker 4: Damaging a COPCA that was assigned to JD. Vance's security detail.
Speaker 1: It was literally as soon as they started talking about
Speaker 1: how Trump wanted to shoot a missile into fucking Camp
Speaker 1: Pendleton and like immediately, yeah, they fuck up and blow
Speaker 1: up a car attached to fucking the Vice president's security detail.
Speaker 2: Amazing stuff.
Speaker 4: They did a dress rehearsal on Friday in which they
Speaker 4: managed not to detonate any shells over to five. Gavin
Speaker 4: Newsom decided to shut the frive on Saturday.
Speaker 1: Probaly good call.
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably complaining about things shaking.
Speaker 4: Just if you're like, if you're not familiar with the
Speaker 4: layout there, I would say that in most places you go,
Speaker 4: Camp Pendleton is a large area that's used by the
Speaker 4: Marine Corps for training. It has artillery ranges within it.
Speaker 1: The five is the big highway in California. It's the
Speaker 1: highway that goes the whole length of the state.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you would call it the I five if you
Speaker 4: weren't from here, and then we would know that you
Speaker 4: weren't from here, So we call it the five. There's
Speaker 4: less than a mile of land to the west of
Speaker 4: the five, right, so shooting go over to five like
Speaker 4: pretty much shooting from the beach or near the beach,
Speaker 4: as opposed to the whole rest of Camp Pendleton right
Speaker 4: where they have artillery ranges. But they wanted to do
Speaker 4: it over the five. I think they were doing some
Speaker 4: kind of simulated landing drill. Not quite sure what the
Speaker 4: landing drill they were doing, but this get resulted in
Speaker 4: the damage done to a HP car and really fucked
Speaker 4: up traffic in probably the entirety of southern California. Yeah,
Speaker 4: from most of last Saturday.
Speaker 3: I do you just want to mention here that there
Speaker 3: is historical precedent in the United States for US accidentally
Speaker 3: killing the Secretary of State because a gun they were
Speaker 3: firing on a pleasure cruise on a boat, on a
Speaker 3: Navy boat blew up. So wow in the eighteen forties,
Speaker 3: but we did kill the Secretary of the Navy and
Speaker 3: the Secretary of State.
Speaker 2: If any Secretary of War could pull this off, it
Speaker 2: would be pa I believe him. Here is a decent
Speaker 2: chance he will throw one of those actes straight into JD.
Speaker 2: Vans's leg. Oh yeah, I forgot about his accident.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, Vansifolmer Marine. Oh yeah that is wait, yeah
Speaker 4: yeah yeah, I totally forgot lance corporal in the Marine Corps.
Speaker 4: I believe he was a PAO public affairs. Yeah, I
Speaker 4: want to address DHS has claimed about deportation numbers. DHS
Speaker 4: has been throwing out some really big numbers for deportation,
Speaker 4: claiming over half a million removed and one point six
Speaker 4: million quote unquote self deported.
Speaker 2: These are inflated numbers.
Speaker 4: These include things like people turned away airports and Coastguard
Speaker 4: into dictions.
Speaker 2: Right that they are not removals of people from the
Speaker 2: interior of the United States who were residing here. They're
Speaker 2: like if someone maybe if someone came with a visa
Speaker 2: and was turned around the airport, they're including that as
Speaker 2: a deportation.
Speaker 7: Right.
Speaker 4: DHS has stopped publishing a lot of the data that
Speaker 4: we previously got under this administration, so we don't have
Speaker 4: a lot of hard numbers, but at one point six
Speaker 4: million number. This comes from CIS right, the Center for
Speaker 4: Immigration Studies. We talked about them before this is a
Speaker 4: Tanton funded quote unquote think tank, which the SPLC has
Speaker 4: adjudicated as a hate group. The CIS Data DHS has
Speaker 4: been like sharing this since it came out. But it
Speaker 4: also so it seems to be weighing very heavily into
Speaker 4: whatever algorithm Musk has put into Grok recently. If you
Speaker 4: look for mentions on x the Everything website of the
Speaker 4: one point six million number, nearly all of them are
Speaker 4: Groq repeating it. God, I don't know if they straight
Speaker 4: up just said like, yeah, the CIS is your source
Speaker 4: for information when they were, you know, programming it to
Speaker 4: be less woke but slightly more woke than when it
Speaker 4: called itself Mecha Hitler, But it seems to be the
Speaker 4: CIS seems to be heavily weighed in the Grock algorithm
Speaker 4: these days, which I thought was interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they did get that GROC contract approved a few
Speaker 2: months ago.
Speaker 4: I think the DHS didn't get the number from GROK.
Speaker 4: I think they got it from CIS, but nonetheless like
Speaker 4: the reason that that number is still in the side guy.
Speaker 4: So I think it's partially because Grok keeps repeating it. Well,
Speaker 4: you know it is. It is gro October as I've
Speaker 4: been saying, Garrison, we have fucking spoken about this. It's
Speaker 4: not Groctober angry.
Speaker 2: The other thing I do want to mention on a
Speaker 2: I guess not deportations, but the Department of State has
Speaker 2: announced a series of people who have had their visas
Speaker 2: revoked for posts surrounding the death of Charlie Kirk. The
Speaker 2: State Department Twitter account posted a whole thread on x
Speaker 2: the Everything app listing various sentences and sentiments that resulted
Speaker 2: in visas being revoked. Quote Charlie Kirk was a son
Speaker 2: of a bitch and he died by his own rules.
Speaker 2: Visa revoked. When fascists die, Democrats don't complain, VISO revoked.
Speaker 2: It from a German national Resilient National said that quote
Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk was the reason for a Nazi rally where
Speaker 2: they marched in homage to him, and that Kirk died
Speaker 2: too late. Visa revoked. There's like four other of these
Speaker 2: people making statements of that nature.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think people get the idea.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Following Kirkstath Rubio to announce he would be looking
Speaker 2: for visa holders who made statements following Kirk's death, and
Speaker 2: he has followed through on that promise in some other
Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk news. A few weeks ago, Turning Point USA
Speaker 2: officially announced that they would be producing an alternative halftime
Speaker 2: show after it was announced that the Puerto Rican artist
Speaker 2: Bad Bunny would be performing at the twenty twenty six
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. The TPUSA show will be called a Quote
Speaker 2: All American Halftime Show, celebrating faith, family, and freedom. The
Speaker 2: website has a submission form where it asks which genres
Speaker 2: should be featured during the show. The options include quote
Speaker 2: anything in English, American classic rock, country, hip hop, pop,
Speaker 2: and worship.
Speaker 1: I love anything in English as a genre.
Speaker 4: Yeah. When I get to Spotify, that's what I put in.
Speaker 1: The crowd's gonna riot when someone does Hotel California.
Speaker 2: We can really push anything at English. Frankly, we could
Speaker 2: go to some pretty he places.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I didn't think they've already considered the breadth
Speaker 4: of that genre.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I will say. How they could get me back on
Speaker 1: board is in if in addition to a separate halftime show,
Speaker 1: they had a separate super Bowl in which Ben Shapiro
Speaker 1: faces off alone against the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 3: Oh that would be so fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would let Ben Shapiro bring some friends.
Speaker 3: No, No, I want to see Jalen Hurts physically pick
Speaker 3: up Ben Shapiro and see how far he can pass him,
Speaker 3: because I'm pretty, I'm.
Speaker 1: Pretty sud at least at least sixty year.
Speaker 3: That guy Benches. That guy could like bench a small
Speaker 3: motor vehicle like benches Shapiro. Yeah.
Speaker 2: More details and performers will be announced later, including how
Speaker 2: this will be broadcast, will be streamed online? Are they
Speaker 2: don't trying to make a TV deal with someone like,
Speaker 2: you know, Fox? You know, unclear how this will be broadcast,
Speaker 2: but it is something they're going to go through. On
Speaker 2: last thing we should probably talk about before the break
Speaker 2: or I don't know, maybe maybe we could combine this
Speaker 2: with the section you wanted to talk about Robert on
Speaker 2: the Infiltrations. But right after our Executive Disorder episode from
Speaker 2: two weeks ago, literally like like hours after, on October eighth,
Speaker 2: right wing influencers gathered at the White House to discuss
Speaker 2: with Trump and cabinet members their theories and carrowing stories
Speaker 2: of Antifa at this big Antifa roundtable. Yeah, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: play a short clip like a few seconds from Jack
Speaker 2: Pasoba get in there noted far.
Speaker 3: Right extremist and poster Jack.
Speaker 1: Pasobic certainly noted poster it's a great guy. Yeah, Antifa
Speaker 1: is real.
Speaker 8: Antifa has been around in various iterations for almost one
Speaker 8: hundred years, in some instances, going back to the Weimar
Speaker 8: Republic in Germany.
Speaker 2: Huh, I wonder, I wonder why it went back to
Speaker 2: the Wymar republican German? What what? What else was happening
Speaker 2: at that time in Germany. It's very interesting you say that, Jack,
Speaker 2: Very interesting, Jack. What other opinions do you have on
Speaker 2: Fimar Republic?
Speaker 4: Jack?
Speaker 1: Yeah, So this is worrisome, right, the fact that these
Speaker 1: idiots are getting to speak this close to power about
Speaker 1: their theory, which is basically that everyone they don't like
Speaker 1: or who has said anything they don't like as part
Speaker 1: of a terrorist organization and should be put in prisoner executed.
Speaker 1: Like that's the gist of what all of the people
Speaker 1: at that roundtable believe.
Speaker 2: A whole bunch of like, you know, post millennial people,
Speaker 2: and you know that that that whole that whole right,
Speaker 2: like a genre of like you know, right wing antifa journalists, journalistic.
Speaker 1: Yes, everyone I don't like equals terrorists. Yes, So that's
Speaker 1: really worrisome, and I just I kind of wanted to
Speaker 1: make a note here to people that as a result
Speaker 1: of stuff like this, in case you somehow have not
Speaker 1: been aware of this, we're going to be seeing a
Speaker 1: massive ramp up in not just attempts at prosecution, but
Speaker 1: at attempts to infiltrate and get gotcha footage and audio
Speaker 1: of different left wing and anarchist groups that are going
Speaker 1: to be used as pretexts for further crackdowns. I would
Speaker 1: say it's just a time to be aware of that
Speaker 1: and be aware of the fact that anytime you are
Speaker 1: speaking or at a public event where other people are speaking,
Speaker 1: you should assume that that's being recorded and that people
Speaker 1: will be pulling out the worst parts they can from
Speaker 1: it and trying to use that to destroy people's lives.
Speaker 1: And I bring that up because there's been a couple
Speaker 1: that just really broke today, some potentially pretty high profile
Speaker 1: examples of this. One of them is that at a
Speaker 1: panel for Firestorm Books, they had a speaker, guy named
Speaker 1: Eric King, who was convicted of a firebombing. He's a
Speaker 1: left wing activist. He spent almost ten years in prison,
Speaker 1: at a horrific time in prison. I mean just abused
Speaker 1: by the system and some of the worst playways possible
Speaker 1: and is finally out. And Eric did a talk at
Speaker 1: Firestorm Books and he made basically his statement that activists
Speaker 1: need to hurt them where it counts, saying we can
Speaker 1: force them to shut the fuck up when it hurts
Speaker 1: their wallilet enough, or you can find other ways to
Speaker 1: hurt them. Now that's not saying anything inherently illegal. Again,
Speaker 1: he starts it by saying we can force them to
Speaker 1: shut up when it hurts their wallet enough. That's talking
Speaker 1: about like boycotts and stuff. But the phrase other ways
Speaker 1: to hurt them is vague enough. That's pretty easy for
Speaker 1: these guys to cut stuff out. And I'm looking at
Speaker 1: a post by quote end quote investigated analysts for the
Speaker 1: Manhattan STU Smith. He's framing this as known ANTIFA firebomber
Speaker 1: calls for escalation, and again that's not necessarily inaccurate look
Speaker 1: at what Eric was saying. But it's easy to pull
Speaker 1: stuff out like this from something like what appears to
Speaker 1: have been a fairly open zoom call that is not
Speaker 1: hard for someone to get in to and record and
Speaker 1: pull something out of to try and make the case
Speaker 1: that someone like Eric should be back in prison, or
Speaker 1: that Firestorm Books is a party, you know, providing material
Speaker 1: support to an extremist organization. And what I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to do is say like and so people should not
Speaker 1: talk and gather in public because they're going to be
Speaker 1: doing this. But you need to be aware that anything
Speaker 1: said it's something like this that's in any way open,
Speaker 1: and even if you try to make it kind of
Speaker 1: more closed than this, they will try to get people in.
Speaker 1: This is something that is increasingly going to happen, and
Speaker 1: so people just need to be You can't you can't
Speaker 1: just kind of hope that they're not paying attention. You
Speaker 1: have to be aware of the fact that they're out
Speaker 1: there and they're going to be trying to infiltrate any
Speaker 1: sort of thing like this they can to get pretexts
Speaker 1: for further crackdowns. And another recent example of this Frontlines
Speaker 1: tp USA, which is Turning Point ussays, I mean, it's
Speaker 1: their version of the actual front line journalism show. But
Speaker 1: they did an investigation where they went undercover to the
Speaker 1: Oakland in Seattle anarchist book fairs, right, and again, there's
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with doing those book fairs, I'm sure what
Speaker 1: they're doing here is pulling whatever quotes they could grab
Speaker 1: from people that sound bad out of context and using
Speaker 1: them to try to make the case that again, these
Speaker 1: are violent extremist events that need to be cracked down on.
Speaker 1: And I will reiterate I'm not saying don't do book fares.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying don't show up at events like this.
Speaker 1: I'm saying if you show up, be aware that stuff
Speaker 1: like this is going to be happening, that they're going
Speaker 1: to be people recording, that they're going to be people
Speaker 1: trying to find what they can to destroy people who
Speaker 1: are at these events, and that that's something that needs
Speaker 1: to be in your threat model, right in terms of
Speaker 1: how you dress when you go there, how visible you are,
Speaker 1: and what you're willing to say around people, right, among
Speaker 1: other things. I guess what I'm saying is there's some
Speaker 1: jokes you shouldn't be making in public at events like
Speaker 1: this unless you want there to be a high risk
Speaker 1: of it coming back to bite you in the ass.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think that's that's perfectly reasonable.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: During the ANTIFA roundtable panel, this guy named Seamus Brunners. Seamus,
Speaker 2: It says, seamss guys Jesus. It says seems that that
Speaker 2: is does We're gonna have to stop you right that
Speaker 2: that's that's a shame, but it says Seamus the director
Speaker 2: of research at the Government Accountability Institute, discussed his theory
Speaker 2: of how a network of NGOs are funding Antifa. This
Speaker 2: is a this is a longer clip, but I think
Speaker 2: it's important to look at how they are approaching this,
Speaker 2: like how they are approaching this Antifa as an organization.
Speaker 5: This is not just a story about violence and chaos,
Speaker 5: as you alluded to, mister President. This is a money story.
Speaker 5: And at the Government Accountability Institute, my colleague and I,
Speaker 5: Peter schoy I and our team we follow the money
Speaker 5: and we followed it to the top of what we
Speaker 5: call the protest industrial complex riot Inc. And we found
Speaker 5: a network of NGOs. It's not just the Soros network,
Speaker 5: the Open Society network, it's other funding networks, the Arabella
Speaker 5: funding network, the Tides funding network, Neville Roy Singham and
Speaker 5: his network, Foreign Cash, and it's also big left wing
Speaker 5: funder Some of them are not citizens of this country,
Speaker 5: mister Hans jorg Vis of Switzerland. They're pouring money into
Speaker 5: this entire ecosystem. And so I want to share three
Speaker 5: money facts with you about what we call Riot Inc.
Speaker 5: Number One, like any corporation, Riot Inc. Has many divisions.
Speaker 5: It doesn't just have the Antifa boots on the ground division.
Speaker 5: It has pr divisions, it has marketing divisions, It has
Speaker 5: a very well funded legal division to get these boots
Speaker 5: on the ground back on the streets as quickly as possible.
Speaker 5: But it does have those investors that I mentioned. Number two,
Speaker 5: we have identified dozens of radical organizations, not just the
Speaker 5: decentralized Antifa organizations, but dozens of radical organizations that have
Speaker 5: received more than one hundred million dollars from the riot
Speaker 5: Ink investors. These would be the lawyer groups, These would
Speaker 5: be the groups that advocate for calling good, honest Americans fascists,
Speaker 5: et cetera. And then three, I think the most shocking
Speaker 5: thing is that we have found that more than one
Speaker 5: hundred million dollars in US taxpayer funding has flowed into
Speaker 5: these funding networks, including at least four million dollars to
Speaker 5: these very groups themselves, not just Antifa types. But there
Speaker 5: was an event in Atlanta called stopcop City. Over sixty
Speaker 5: rioters were charged with domestic terrorism. These groups received money
Speaker 5: for that from both the billionaire class as well as
Speaker 5: taxpayer money.
Speaker 2: Unclear what he's talking about in terms of taxpayer money
Speaker 2: going to the sixty RICO defendants in Atlanta, But the
Speaker 2: structure's talking about, how is riot Inc Includes not just
Speaker 2: like Antifa as in you know, people wearing black hoodies
Speaker 2: on the streets at a protest, but like, you know,
Speaker 2: legal support organizations, even like like research organizations that you
Speaker 2: know advocate calling you know, good honest American's fascists, right
Speaker 2: this this could refer to groups like Media Matters or
Speaker 2: like Southern Poverty Law Center who do research into extremist organizations.
Speaker 2: They could be framing the people like that as a
Speaker 2: part of this this whole ecosystem, and that's that's where
Speaker 2: they could be looking at for sources of money and
Speaker 2: funding and like tracking where that money goes is in
Speaker 2: groups like that, not obviously you know, your average black
Speaker 2: claud Antifa protesters, not it's not receiving payment for their
Speaker 2: presence at these at these events. But this guy went
Speaker 2: on to claim that quote unquote, Riot Inc. Funding network
Speaker 2: also supports decentralized crowdfunding platforms which fund organizations like the
Speaker 2: ELM for John Brown gun club and these Socialist Rifles Association.
Speaker 2: After he went on this like three minute long speech,
Speaker 2: Trump asked him and other attendees that if they knew
Speaker 2: anything about like ANTIFA members, funders, or the organizational structure,
Speaker 2: to hand over that information to Pam Bondie or Cash
Speaker 2: Patel and Trump reiterated this multiple times during the roundtable,
Speaker 2: asking these you know, policy guys or quote unquote independent
Speaker 2: journalists to hand over their information to the authorities. Here's
Speaker 2: one version of him making this request.
Speaker 7: Do you know the name of any of the funders?
Speaker 7: Do you know the names? Because if you do, I'd
Speaker 7: like you to give them to Cash or Pam.
Speaker 5: Absolutely well, Christy, yeah, we'll do as soon as you can.
Speaker 7: That's all of you, because you probably know the names.
Speaker 7: After a certain period of time, you tend to find out.
Speaker 7: But these are people that do not have good intention
Speaker 7: for the country, and that's uh creasiness probably, So if
Speaker 7: you could, if you very important, if you could do that,
Speaker 7: it would be a great Nobody would know better than you.
Speaker 7: You'll figure it out.
Speaker 1: Share man cool.
Speaker 2: During this roundtable, Pam Bondi, the Attorney General, reiterated how
Speaker 2: Antifa should be treated like an organized criminal gang and
Speaker 2: that law enforcement are going to quote unquote take the
Speaker 2: same approach as it does handling foreign drug cartels. It's
Speaker 2: a side note the United States has maybe that's what
Speaker 2: those guided missions repeatedly lodged missiles at what it claims
Speaker 2: are boats associated with foreign drug cartels.
Speaker 4: I'll just say we have an episode next week about
Speaker 4: the ongoing drone campaign in the Caribbean.
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Speaker 3: So literally within twelve hours I think of the of
Speaker 3: the release at night of our last episode of this show,
Speaker 3: we got the resumption of the trade war, so specifically,
Speaker 3: Trump has announced effectively the full scale resumption of the
Speaker 3: trade will which China. This started kind of out of
Speaker 3: nowhere with Trump administration doing something that I think they
Speaker 3: didn't think was very provocative, because I don't quite think
Speaker 3: they understood the magnitude of what they were doing. This
Speaker 3: basically started with a Trump administration massively increasing export restrictions
Speaker 3: to China by changing the rules of what companies are
Speaker 3: covered by what's called the Entity List, which is a
Speaker 3: list of companies that American companies are not allowed to
Speaker 3: sell goods and services to. The administration moved this to
Speaker 3: include any company that is fifty percent or more owned
Speaker 3: by a company on the export list. We've discussed on
Speaker 3: the show before that a significant part of the structure
Speaker 3: of Chinese corporate conglomerates are held together by a bunch
Speaker 3: of different companies, you know, having partial ownership by the
Speaker 3: same holding companies, which is what sort of binds companies
Speaker 3: and conglomerates together into race them into the management structure
Speaker 3: of the conglomerates. This is how Chinese state owned enterprises work.
Speaker 3: Being state owned enterprise literally means that you are partly
Speaker 3: or completely owned by a holding company run by SASSAK,
Speaker 3: which is the state owned Asset Supervision and Administration Commission
Speaker 3: of the State Council, because every name of the CCP
Speaker 3: is like that. So this shift to anything that's fifty
Speaker 3: percent or more owned by a company on this list
Speaker 3: is actually a massive export restriction, and the Chinese government
Speaker 3: took this as okay, we're starting the trade war again,
Speaker 3: so very quickly. There's a whole bunch of different tat
Speaker 3: things that we're not going to track the order of
Speaker 3: because they kind of don't matter. But on October tenth,
Speaker 3: Trump made a Twitter post where he said that he
Speaker 3: was going to implement a one hundred percent tariff and
Speaker 3: also a software restriction thing we'll talk about later. Those
Speaker 3: are supposed to go into effect on the first. He's
Speaker 3: also been talking in the last week about bringing tariffs
Speaker 3: up to one hundred and fifty percent. We don't have
Speaker 3: any kind of formal executive order on that. This was
Speaker 3: to some extent in response to China implementing massive restrictions
Speaker 3: on the export of rare earth metals. These are crucial
Speaker 3: to basically any kind of advanced manufacturing, industrial manufacturing, applications
Speaker 3: everything from chips, electric cars that jet fighters. These are
Speaker 3: set to take effect on December first. I'm going to
Speaker 3: read this from the New York Times to get an
Speaker 3: understanding of how large these moves are. China refines ninety
Speaker 3: nine percent of the world's prosium, a kind of rare
Speaker 3: earth metal that is used in chips to preserve magnetic
Speaker 3: stability even when they become hot. In the last few years,
Speaker 3: Nvidia and other semi conductor manufacturers have changed the materials
Speaker 3: used in electricity management devices called capacitors, which is a
Speaker 3: really funny way to describe a capacitor, by the way,
Speaker 3: but on chips to make them more heat resistant. The
Speaker 3: capacitors are made from ultra pure dysprosium, which is extremely
Speaker 3: difficult to refine. A single refinery in Wushi, near Shanghai
Speaker 3: produces the entire world's supply, so prove New York Times.
Speaker 3: These support restrictions include any good that is produced with
Speaker 3: these rare earth metals, and require foreign companies operating in China,
Speaker 3: like for example, Samsung or any of the sort of
Speaker 3: South Korean or Taiwanese chip manufacturers to acquire export licenses
Speaker 3: to you know, like sell them to any other country
Speaker 3: that's not China. That is a absolutely massive restriction on
Speaker 3: export goods. And also again a whole bunch of critical
Speaker 3: minerals that both the American military apparatus relies on and
Speaker 3: the American tech apparatus relies on. AI chips need a
Speaker 3: whole bunch of these things. So you know, in the
Speaker 3: middle of this process, the US also started charging Chinese
Speaker 3: built ships for docking at US ports, which China retaliated
Speaker 3: by imposing docking fees for American ships. I'm going to
Speaker 3: go and read from New York Times here. The new
Speaker 3: rules are the most stringent for Chinese shipping companies, which
Speaker 3: for the most part, cannot avoid the levies. HSBC, an
Speaker 3: investment bank, estimated that Costco not that Costco different one,
Speaker 3: a large Chinese shipping line, could pay one point five
Speaker 3: billion dollars in fees next year, which the bank said
Speaker 3: could reduce Costco's operating earnings by nearly three fourths in
Speaker 3: twenty twenty six. And again, it's it's worth it's worth
Speaker 3: noting that these shipping, these shipping companies are the backbone
Speaker 3: of global trade. They also their margins are not very
Speaker 3: good and a significant number of them basically only didn't
Speaker 3: go under dream lock during the lockdowns because they effectively
Speaker 3: lied on their loan applications and we're just sort of
Speaker 3: putting in their revenue as if the lockdowns weren't happening.
Speaker 3: So this is all very very fragile infrastructure that is
Speaker 3: being you know, attacked, and these these port fees are
Speaker 3: already in.
Speaker 2: Effect me doing gay cruising on my European trip. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I like global trade, all right, I continue.
Speaker 3: Oh god, okay, So we also got to report today.
Speaker 3: This is Wednesday, the twenty seconds this is being reported,
Speaker 3: so who fucking knows what will be happening by the
Speaker 3: time this episode comes out. But on Wednesday, we've got
Speaker 3: to report from Reuters about the other one of the
Speaker 3: other options that Trump administration is considering for these massive
Speaker 3: sort of trade attacks on China. So I said, I
Speaker 3: said earlier when I talked about the one hundred percent tariff,
Speaker 3: Trump also mentioned a software export ban. So perb Reuters,
Speaker 3: what's being considered here, and again we have note we
Speaker 3: have very few concrete details about this. This hasn't been
Speaker 3: formally announced, my guests, is that it's being leaked to
Speaker 3: routers by the administration, but I just don't know. But
Speaker 3: what they're considering basically is a version of the sanctions
Speaker 3: that effectively Biden applied to Russia after the invasion of Ukraine,
Speaker 3: which restricts the export of any product made with US software.
Speaker 3: This would be probably the most significant developments of the
Speaker 3: entire trade war. And so these are all incredibly significant escalations.
Speaker 3: A bunch of the stuff is set to go into
Speaker 3: effect on November first, which is very very soon now.
Speaker 3: In theory, Trump and Chi Jianping are supposed to meet
Speaker 3: at the meeting of the Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation Forum
Speaker 3: in South Korea, but there's been no formal announcements of
Speaker 3: their meeting. Trumps that he was going to go to
Speaker 3: China and early next year, but that's again next year.
Speaker 3: The American one hundred percent tariff again November first. The
Speaker 3: Chinese export restrictions on rare earth metals again December first.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The other issue here is that the actual event starts
Speaker 3: on October thirty first, and the first terrorists was supposed
Speaker 3: to going to affect the next day.
Speaker 2: Very spooky, very spooky, indeed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so Trump is mad also about China refusing
Speaker 3: to buy American soybeans story we've been covering. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: you know, he's complaining about the rare earth metal soft
Speaker 3: and he's complaining about he's still yelling about fence and all.
Speaker 3: But it's also worth mentioning one of the fascinating things
Speaker 3: is Trump is continuing to piss off even more parts
Speaker 3: of his base with this stuff. So soybean farmers, which
Speaker 3: is again a huge portion of American farmers, are really
Speaker 3: mad at him. He's also pissing off cattle ranchers, So
Speaker 3: both the soybean farmers and the cattle ranchers are mad
Speaker 3: at Trump for giving a bunch of money to Argentina
Speaker 3: and not giving them a bunch of money and cutting
Speaker 3: off their ACKs to Chinese markets because Argentina again is
Speaker 3: selling a whole bunch of stuff to China. One of
Speaker 3: the things that they sell to China is beef, because
Speaker 3: Argentina is a major beef exporter. So they're all really
Speaker 3: mad at him for giving Argentina a giant bailout in
Speaker 3: order to try to save they're failing economy under their
Speaker 3: unhinged an arco capitalist and president who has annihilated the
Speaker 3: economy even more than it was before. And then Trump's
Speaker 3: response to the cattle ranchers being mad at him was
Speaker 3: telling them to lower their prices, which means they're even
Speaker 3: more mad at him. So he is systematically alienating too
Speaker 3: of what should be his most important basis of support.
Speaker 3: And like the cattle industry has been a based Republican
Speaker 3: support for I mean since time of Memorial. Effectively, the
Speaker 3: lumber and vanity tariffs that we mentioned last week have
Speaker 3: taken effect now there's been no rollback of them. And finally,
Speaker 3: I want to close on a story that we're going
Speaker 3: to be covering more on Monday, which is the continuing
Speaker 3: escalation of a sort of conflict between Colombia and the
Speaker 3: US after the US murders about full of what appeared
Speaker 3: to be Columbian fishermen. Yes, Columbia has recalled its ambassador,
Speaker 3: and the US has said that it is going to
Speaker 3: eliminate all foreign aid and impose a tariff the size
Speaker 3: of which they haven't given a consistent number. Four And
Speaker 3: this is, you know, very much could look like a
Speaker 3: pretty massive reorientation of American policy around Columbia, which has
Speaker 3: traditionally been an American ally And we've ran desk squads
Speaker 3: out of there for a very very long time. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and that has been the lightning round rapid fire trade
Speaker 3: war coverage because oh boy, yeah, yay, we've tariff talked.
Speaker 2: All right. Before we close, I do want to talk
Speaker 2: a little bit about one of the news stories this
Speaker 2: week about US political figures being like Nazism. No, not
Speaker 2: the main candidate, and no, not that other Republican staffer
Speaker 2: who had a swastika in his cubicle. The political story
Speaker 2: that reported leaked messages from the New York Young Republican
Speaker 2: telegram chat, which already tells you that it's going to
Speaker 2: be problematic, the fact that they have a telegram chat. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but the Political reported that this chat contain messages about
Speaker 2: putting political opponents in gas chambers, loving Hitler, as well
Speaker 2: as plenty of anti semitism, talking about raping their enemies,
Speaker 2: and hundreds of uses of homophonebic and raycistlers. The chair
Speaker 2: of the New York State Young Republicans, Bobby Walker, allegedly
Speaker 2: called rape epic and wrote in the chat quote if
Speaker 2: we ever had a leak of this chat, we would
Speaker 2: be cooked unquote. New York Republican Elise Stephanic first denounced
Speaker 2: this chat after the report, though later called the Politico
Speaker 2: piece a quote unquote hit job. The Matt Walsh side
Speaker 2: of the online right condemned those who leaked the chats,
Speaker 2: neglecting to discuss the substance of the chat itself, while
Speaker 2: Vance largely dismissed the affair, writing on X the Everything
Speaker 2: App quote I refused to join the pearl clutching when
Speaker 2: powerful people call for political violence unquote. Vance falsely referred
Speaker 2: to this as a college group chat when team members
Speaker 2: were as old as forty years old. A day later,
Speaker 2: while guesting on the Charlie Kirk Show, JD. Vance continue
Speaker 2: to push back on the seriousness of this story and
Speaker 2: play defense by repeatedly referring to the grown that involved
Speaker 2: to our in their twenties and forties as kids and
Speaker 2: young boys.
Speaker 9: Somehow they got their hands on something like twenty eight
Speaker 9: thousand messages in some group chat group chat of I
Speaker 9: think twelve people that nobody's ever heard of. But they
Speaker 9: decided to just publish every single thing in this chat,
Speaker 9: whatever they found that they thought was the most salacious,
Speaker 9: and I think ten years ago there would have been
Speaker 9: a very different response to it. But people are starting
Speaker 9: to learn from this and the vice president.
Speaker 8: Is one of the reasons why I'm sorry. Focus on
Speaker 8: the real issues, don't focus on what kids say in
Speaker 8: group chats. But there's another angle to this that I
Speaker 8: just have to be honest about. I mean, I'm like
Speaker 8: an old guy at this one. I'm forty one years old.
Speaker 8: I have three kids. You know, I grew up in
Speaker 8: a different world, right where not most of what the
Speaker 8: stupid things that I did when I was a teenager
Speaker 8: and a young adult, they're not on the internet. Like
Speaker 8: I'm going to tell my kids, especially my boys, don't
Speaker 8: put things on the end, Like, be careful with what
Speaker 8: you post. If you put something in a group chat,
Speaker 8: assume that some scumbag is going to leak it in
Speaker 8: an effort to try to cause you harm or cause
Speaker 8: your family harm. But the reality is that kids do
Speaker 8: stupid things, especially young boys. They tell edgy, offensive jokes,
Speaker 8: like that's what kids do. And I really don't want
Speaker 8: us to grow up in a country where a kid
Speaker 8: telling a stupid joke, telling a very offensive, stupid joke
Speaker 8: is caused to ruin their lives. And at some point
Speaker 8: we're all going to have to say enough of this. Bs.
Speaker 8: We're not going to allow the worst moment and a
Speaker 8: twenty one year old's group chat to ruin a kid's
Speaker 8: life for the rest of time.
Speaker 1: That's just not okay.
Speaker 8: Like, we live in a digital world. This stuff is
Speaker 8: now etchtin stone online. We're all going to have to say,
Speaker 8: you know what, no, no, no, we're not doing this.
Speaker 8: We're not canceling kids because they do something stupid in
Speaker 8: a group chat. And if I have to be the
Speaker 8: person who carries that message forward, I'm fine with him.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 2: Once again, most of these guys are like in their thirties.
Speaker 2: These guys are adults. You know, the New York Young
Speaker 2: Republicans is not a whole bunch of kids. These are young,
Speaker 2: like political in political years, because everyone who runs the
Speaker 2: country is quasi geriatric. Self proclaimed theocratic fascist Matt Walsh said, quote,
Speaker 2: the right doesn't stick together. That's our biggest problem. By far,
Speaker 2: Conservatives are quick to denounce each other, jump on dog piles,
Speaker 2: disavow attack their allies. I said a few weeks ago
Speaker 2: that we all need to band together in the wake
Speaker 2: of Charlie's death, and the answer I got back from
Speaker 2: a lot of people on the right was basically no, Well, okay,
Speaker 2: then guys, we'll just lose. Instead, the left will keep
Speaker 2: up the United Front and defend their guys no matter what. Well,
Speaker 2: we keep throwing each other to the wolves at every opportunity.
Speaker 2: Great plan. Unquote. Shapiro did beef a bit with Walsh
Speaker 2: on one of their daily wire group podcasts regarding the
Speaker 2: substance of these chats. Shapiro did seem more concerned at
Speaker 2: the growing anti Semitic and not the fascistic element of
Speaker 2: the Republican Party, whereas Walsh is does not care about
Speaker 2: that at all. Yeah, yeah, yeah, not not a problem
Speaker 2: for self proclaimed theocratic fascist Matt Walsh. Yeah, so that's
Speaker 2: one side of this whole political story that I wanted
Speaker 2: to talk about. You should just read the political piece.
Speaker 2: I'm sure lots people have. It got pretty popular a
Speaker 2: few days ago. But I find the sort of I mean,
Speaker 2: I would have called it like the dissident right reaction,
Speaker 2: But when you have the vice president as like, yep,
Speaker 2: the guy leading the charge on this type of stuff,
Speaker 2: it's not really distanct Like there is a large number
Speaker 2: of Republicans who are condemning the contents of this chat,
Speaker 2: but you do have the vice president of the country
Speaker 2: playing defense for it, Yeah, and for the people involved.
Speaker 3: And I think this is actually a very important thing
Speaker 3: about what the structure of the Republican Party is right now,
Speaker 3: which is these kind of low levels like staffers, right
Speaker 3: the young Republican people, and these are a bunch of
Speaker 3: people who are from making White House policy. You know,
Speaker 3: Stephen Miller is, you know, the guy who's doing a
Speaker 3: whole bunch of a whole bunch of the sort of
Speaker 3: ethnic cleansing deportation policy right now. Are just Nazis. They're
Speaker 3: just Nazis. And every time one of these group jets
Speaker 3: comes out, it looks like this. And that's a really
Speaker 3: significant factor in why American politics looks like this, which
Speaker 3: is that like the people who are entering the Republican
Speaker 3: Party right now, who are like their sort of youth
Speaker 3: wing quote unquote, are these people and we're seeing their
Speaker 3: policies get enacted. It fucking sucks.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's often baked in this like post ironic,
Speaker 2: like like a joking way, where you know, obviously the Nazis,
Speaker 2: some people in these circles say, obviously the Nazis themselves
Speaker 2: are bad, but we're using this as like a a
Speaker 2: medic signifier Yeah, for like nationalism and for all of
Speaker 2: these things. Now there is a fair number of people
Speaker 2: who just will straight up defend the Nazis, absolutely, but
Speaker 2: I think it's it's it goes beyond, like like this
Speaker 2: isn't German national socialism, Like it goes, it goes, it
Speaker 2: goes beyond to like they're using Nazism as a meme
Speaker 2: for their political project, and memes get used a lot
Speaker 2: in these types of safe spaces where people can joke around.
Speaker 2: So you see that very clearly here, But you also
Speaker 2: see it on like the DHS Twitter account you use,
Speaker 2: you see the same kind of like post ironic stuff
Speaker 2: like a few weeks ago they were fucking moon Man posting.
Speaker 2: You can google that one if you want to. You
Speaker 2: don't have time to explain, but that's a very old
Speaker 2: like internet nazi dog whistle. And you know, we've I've
Speaker 2: talked a decent bit about my feelings on like focusing
Speaker 2: a lot on like the DHS Twitter dog whistles. But yeah,
Speaker 2: it is it is in invoking of this stuff for
Speaker 2: this like mimetic like archetypal context that they surround themselves in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you know, doing the actual thing, which
Speaker 3: is going out and rounding up a whole bunch of
Speaker 3: doing these ice rights now white people and like the ice.
Speaker 2: Recruiting ads are like the clearest exac sample of using
Speaker 2: this type of memetic imagery for their actual political project
Speaker 2: and then to act the thing physically. And it's very
Speaker 2: clear there because there's very little disconnected in immediate transference. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's a very straight line. Yeah, James, want to close
Speaker 2: us up on the great state of Alaska.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm talking about something not so great in Alaska.
Speaker 2: But we normally do a fundraiser at the end.
Speaker 4: So I wanted to put this here for those of
Speaker 4: you who are not aware, because this has really got
Speaker 4: enough coverage, in my opinion, A massive storm, in fact,
Speaker 4: the remnants of a typhoon slammed into the west coast
Speaker 4: of Alaska, leaving more than a thousand people without shelter
Speaker 4: along the Yukon Coskoquim River. These are Alaska Native villages,
Speaker 4: and their inhabitants are now climate refugees at the very
Speaker 4: start of winter, right in the coldest place in the
Speaker 4: United States. These villages are very remote. I spent some
Speaker 4: time earlier this year in Alaska Native village not here
Speaker 4: in the interior, just in the in territories. But these
Speaker 4: guys are really only accessible by small planes or by boats,
Speaker 4: which will make their recovery even harder.
Speaker 2: Right. They're people who have lived by the.
Speaker 4: Ocean or by the river for as long as people
Speaker 4: have lived in the Americas, tens of thousands of years. Right.
Speaker 4: A few months ago, the Trump EPA canceled a twenty
Speaker 4: million dollar ground for flood protection which would have covered Kipnook,
Speaker 4: one of these villages. Kipnook now and functioning doesn't exist.
Speaker 4: Houses were torn off their foundations.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 4: There are multiple videos of people's whole houses floating away.
Speaker 4: It's not just an instance of neglect or even a
Speaker 4: single failure here, it's an example of decades of ignoring
Speaker 4: the voices of indigenous people, especially Alaska Natives, when they
Speaker 4: tell us that the climate crisis is real and that
Speaker 4: it's already here.
Speaker 2: Right. When the media looks at.
Speaker 4: Climate change, they tend to want to look at data
Speaker 4: they can measure in terms of numbers according to the
Speaker 4: model of Western science. But I would argue that the
Speaker 4: experience of Indigenous people who have lived on the land
Speaker 4: for as long as human beings have lived anywhere on
Speaker 4: this continent and have watched the changes and seen this
Speaker 4: disaster unfold. Should be a warning to all of us
Speaker 4: that the climate crisis is already here. I reached out
Speaker 4: to some Alaska Native friends to ask where to donate,
Speaker 4: and they shared a page which will be in the
Speaker 4: show notes that the shows if you're able to help,
Speaker 4: I think that's very important thing to do. Recovery for
Speaker 4: these people with this federal government, with being as remote
Speaker 4: as they are, will be horrifically difficult right now. Many
Speaker 4: of them are living in Anchorage right Like I said,
Speaker 4: they're going into the winter and then they don't have
Speaker 4: a place to live. It's an unmitigated disaster. So if
Speaker 4: you're able to help, I think it would be very
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