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Speaker 1: Also media, Welcome back to a jacktoral dysfunction.

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Speaker 2: Wait, that's the worst one yet. That's the worst one yet. Folks,

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Speaker 2: we did not think it could get worse, and yet

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Speaker 2: here we are.

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Speaker 1: I knew it could get.

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Speaker 3: Worse and always get worse.

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Speaker 2: Old quitting my jobs today, This is it could happen here.

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Speaker 2: Executive Disorder, our weekly newscast covering what's happening in the

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Speaker 2: White House, the crumbling world, and what it means for you.

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Speaker 2: I'm Garrison Davis today, joined by Ejaculator in Jesus right.

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Speaker 1: Wow, garis Garrison. That's much worse. You made it way worse.

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Speaker 2: How many of those videos have you not watched?

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Speaker 1: Get I think we're all pretty behind on the required trainings.

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Speaker 3: Labor conditions are intolerable.

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Speaker 2: Robert Evans, James Stout, and Mio Wong. This episode, we

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Speaker 2: are covering the week of October fifteenth to October twenty second,

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Speaker 2: and a little bit of the week before because we

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Speaker 2: were off in honor of the government shutdown. We ourselves

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Speaker 2: took a week off because the CIA stopped paying us.

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Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. I've always considered us a branch

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Speaker 1: of the US government.

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Speaker 4: You know, yeah, you and half of the anime people

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Speaker 4: on Twitter robots.

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Speaker 2: We're back. I don't know, it feels a little bit

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Speaker 2: weird to be doing this White House Weekly episode knowing

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Speaker 2: that there's actually less White House than usual there is.

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Speaker 2: Trump has begun demolishing the East wing of the White

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Speaker 2: House to build a privately fund a two hundred and

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Speaker 2: fifty million dollar ballroom, and I think we should all

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Speaker 2: have a moment of silence for the East Wing.

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Speaker 4: Oh.

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Speaker 1: I was going to say a moment of celebration because

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Speaker 1: now James's people can finally shake hands with the United

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Speaker 1: States government and destroying large portions of the White House.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I saw it was a Volvo excavator today, so we

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Speaker 4: also got the Swedes on board. I guess sure couldn't

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Speaker 4: even find an American excavator. Sad we don't make things

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's because we're still waiting for the tariffs to

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Speaker 2: get fully fully enacted.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, once we get that Swedish tariff on. We are

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Speaker 2: almost four weeks now into the government shutdown and there's

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Speaker 2: not really a clear end in sight, and Snap Benefits

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Speaker 2: food stamps are set to run out in a little

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Speaker 2: over a week on November first, Mia, did you want

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Speaker 2: to say something on this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So we've been seeing sort of tech start to

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Speaker 3: go out to people who are on food assistants in

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Speaker 3: various states. There's one circulating from Minnesota that is saying

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Speaker 3: that the food part of SNAP Benefits are going to

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Speaker 3: shut down in a few days on November first, when

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Speaker 3: the funding shuts down. This is a critical lifeline for

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Speaker 3: food for an extremely large number of people. And this

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Speaker 3: is also coming in a period where food banks are

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Speaker 3: we're coming to a very very critical moment in terms

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Speaker 3: And yeah, this is a good moment for if you

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Speaker 3: and that's probably going to have to be us, because

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Speaker 3: it's first fuck not going to be the government.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, and yeah, it's just the people's need to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 4: Just to put some numbers on it, like SNAP in

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Speaker 4: twenty four was forty one point seven million people, which

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a massive cliff.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's particularly bad in certain states. For example, Oregon,

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Speaker 3: And it's also like those people are also disproportionately non

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Speaker 3: And this is something that if straight up the shutdown

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Speaker 1: If you're looking at predictors of violent instability in countries, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Particularly bread riots usually are in sort of modern era,

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Speaker 3: But if there was going to be another one, this

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Meanwhile, during during all of this, during the shutdown

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Speaker 2: and during snaps taking clock, Trump wants his Justice Department

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Speaker 2: to pay himself two hundred and thirty million dollars in

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Speaker 1: Seems fair.

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Speaker 2: Trump claims that he will give this money to quote

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Speaker 2: unquote charity. Seems real clear what that means, what charity

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Speaker 2: thirty million dollars of government money to be paid back

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Speaker 2: to himself. In the end, it will be him making

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, it's good.

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Speaker 2: You know, he's an honest man, you know, it's great.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we we just fully entered the looting. The

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're taking a very British approach.

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Speaker 1: Looting is is putting this too mildly?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And if you.

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Speaker 3: See the article about the plans to let AI companies

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Speaker 3: apply to get old weapons grade plutonium to fuel the

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Speaker 1: That seems fine. That's what I trust Sam Altman weapons

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Speaker 1: grade plutonium. Yeah, he's gonna use that safely.

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Speaker 1: You know what a great attitude to approach having weapons

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Speaker 1: grade plutonium is move fast and break rain.

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Speaker 4: Oh god, this is great. It's this week. We're announcing

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Speaker 4: the start of Kood's Force AI.

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Speaker 1: There we go, bring it on, God.

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Speaker 2: Break breaking news. US sanction has been placed against two

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Speaker 1: Sexy not sexy. So I think one of the first

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Speaker 1: articles written about ICE's new weapons budget. Famously their budget

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Speaker 1: is increased by seeing like seven hundred percent. A huge

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Speaker 1: I'm seeing people freak out about is the supposed idea

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Speaker 1: chemical weapons. I have heard people say this is ICE,

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Speaker 1: which is obviously Trump's SS, you know, making their own

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Speaker 1: I'm seeing a lot of shit like this spread, and

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Speaker 1: as James is going to tell you, none of that's true. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, the fact that ICE has a massive increase

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Speaker 1: But they're not guided missiles.

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Speaker 2: I doesn't matter what heat guided missiles. Yeah, we're not

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Speaker 2: getting a deathhead ICE ICE unit. Come on at the

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying this isn't a problem, but it's not

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Speaker 1: what people are saying it is. Yeah, sorry, James, all right.

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Speaker 4: The source of its claim is a substack page called

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Speaker 4: popular Information run by a guy called Juddlygum, and he

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Speaker 4: has claimed in this piece, I'm just going to quote

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Speaker 4: the ICE post purchase quote chemical weapons, and quote guided

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Speaker 4: missile warheads and explosive components. I guess the main thrust

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Speaker 4: that in his reporting. This reporting is extremely dishonest. To

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Speaker 4: The piece in question doesn't link to the individual contracts, which,

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Speaker 4: like on the face of its bad form, right, if

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Speaker 4: The date range are pertained to the things being discussed

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Speaker 4: or service code for chemical weapons and guided missile warheads. Right,

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Speaker 4: two different products or service codes. Product or service codes

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Speaker 4: I found the contracts. The contract very clearly states the

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Speaker 4: is for multiple distraction devices. Yeah, it's a contract with

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Speaker 4: something that again any competent reporter should do before publishing

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Speaker 4: sent it email more than twenty four hours ago, requesting

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Speaker 4: all know the chemical weapons. It was OC spray, it

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Speaker 4: WASAB spray, right, And a distraction device.

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Speaker 1: By the way, folks, this is something like like a

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Speaker 1: A flash bang is also a distraction device when you

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Speaker 1: used the way that they're use in riots. You know,

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Speaker 1: or something. But like when you're throwing a flash bang

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Speaker 1: at a riot, it's a distraction device because the is

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Speaker 1: you want to stop them from You distract them by an.

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Speaker 2: Explosion, you know. Yeah, and it's distracting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's also and this is you know, one of

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Speaker 3: Ice has been using a whole bunch of these to

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Speaker 1: There are problems. It's problems that they're buying all.

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Speaker 3: This and no one is talking about it because everyone's

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Speaker 1: When James put up their initial research just on a

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Speaker 2: But no, there was the Marines two hundred and fifty

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Speaker 1: up a car attached to fucking the Vice president's security detail.

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Speaker 2: Amazing stuff.

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Speaker 4: They did a dress rehearsal on Friday in which they

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Speaker 4: managed not to detonate any shells over to five. Gavin

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Speaker 4: Newsom decided to shut the frive on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Probaly good call.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, probably complaining about things shaking.

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Speaker 4: Just if you're like, if you're not familiar with the

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Speaker 4: layout there, I would say that in most places you go,

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Speaker 4: Camp Pendleton is a large area that's used by the

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Speaker 4: Marine Corps for training. It has artillery ranges within it.

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Speaker 1: The five is the big highway in California. It's the

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Speaker 1: highway that goes the whole length of the state.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you would call it the I five if you

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Speaker 4: weren't from here, and then we would know that you

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Speaker 4: weren't from here, So we call it the five. There's

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Speaker 4: less than a mile of land to the west of

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Speaker 4: the five, right, so shooting go over to five like

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Speaker 4: pretty much shooting from the beach or near the beach,

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Speaker 4: as opposed to the whole rest of Camp Pendleton right

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Speaker 4: where they have artillery ranges. But they wanted to do

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Speaker 4: it over the five. I think they were doing some

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Speaker 4: kind of simulated landing drill. Not quite sure what the

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Speaker 4: landing drill they were doing, but this get resulted in

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Speaker 4: the damage done to a HP car and really fucked

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Speaker 4: up traffic in probably the entirety of southern California. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: from most of last Saturday.

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Speaker 3: I do you just want to mention here that there

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Speaker 3: is historical precedent in the United States for US accidentally

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Speaker 3: killing the Secretary of State because a gun they were

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Speaker 3: firing on a pleasure cruise on a boat, on a

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Speaker 3: Navy boat blew up. So wow in the eighteen forties,

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Speaker 3: but we did kill the Secretary of the Navy and

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Speaker 3: the Secretary of State.

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Speaker 2: If any Secretary of War could pull this off, it

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Speaker 2: would be pa I believe him. Here is a decent

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Speaker 2: chance he will throw one of those actes straight into JD.

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Speaker 2: Vans's leg. Oh yeah, I forgot about his accident.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, Vansifolmer Marine. Oh yeah that is wait, yeah

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Speaker 4: yeah yeah, I totally forgot lance corporal in the Marine Corps.

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Speaker 4: I believe he was a PAO public affairs. Yeah, I

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Speaker 4: want to address DHS has claimed about deportation numbers. DHS

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Speaker 4: has been throwing out some really big numbers for deportation,

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Speaker 4: claiming over half a million removed and one point six

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Speaker 4: million quote unquote self deported.

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Speaker 2: These are inflated numbers.

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Speaker 4: These include things like people turned away airports and Coastguard

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Speaker 4: into dictions.

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Speaker 2: Right that they are not removals of people from the

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Speaker 2: interior of the United States who were residing here. They're

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Speaker 2: like if someone maybe if someone came with a visa

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Speaker 2: and was turned around the airport, they're including that as

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Speaker 2: a deportation.

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 4: DHS has stopped publishing a lot of the data that

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Speaker 4: we previously got under this administration, so we don't have

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Speaker 4: a lot of hard numbers, but at one point six

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Speaker 4: million number. This comes from CIS right, the Center for

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Speaker 4: Immigration Studies. We talked about them before this is a

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Speaker 4: Tanton funded quote unquote think tank, which the SPLC has

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Speaker 4: adjudicated as a hate group. The CIS Data DHS has

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Speaker 4: been like sharing this since it came out. But it

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Speaker 4: also so it seems to be weighing very heavily into

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Speaker 4: whatever algorithm Musk has put into Grok recently. If you

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Speaker 4: look for mentions on x the Everything website of the

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Speaker 4: one point six million number, nearly all of them are

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Speaker 4: Groq repeating it. God, I don't know if they straight

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Speaker 4: up just said like, yeah, the CIS is your source

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Speaker 4: for information when they were, you know, programming it to

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Speaker 4: be less woke but slightly more woke than when it

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Speaker 4: called itself Mecha Hitler, But it seems to be the

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Speaker 4: CIS seems to be heavily weighed in the Grock algorithm

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Speaker 4: these days, which I thought was interesting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they did get that GROC contract approved a few

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Speaker 2: months ago.

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Speaker 4: I think the DHS didn't get the number from GROK.

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Speaker 4: I think they got it from CIS, but nonetheless like

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Speaker 4: the reason that that number is still in the side guy.

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Speaker 4: So I think it's partially because Grok keeps repeating it. Well,

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Speaker 4: you know it is. It is gro October as I've

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Speaker 4: been saying, Garrison, we have fucking spoken about this. It's

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Speaker 4: not Groctober angry.

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Speaker 2: The other thing I do want to mention on a

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Speaker 2: I guess not deportations, but the Department of State has

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Speaker 2: announced a series of people who have had their visas

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Speaker 2: revoked for posts surrounding the death of Charlie Kirk. The

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Speaker 2: State Department Twitter account posted a whole thread on x

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Speaker 2: the Everything app listing various sentences and sentiments that resulted

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Speaker 2: in visas being revoked. Quote Charlie Kirk was a son

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Speaker 2: of a bitch and he died by his own rules.

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Speaker 2: Visa revoked. When fascists die, Democrats don't complain, VISO revoked.

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Speaker 2: It from a German national Resilient National said that quote

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Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk was the reason for a Nazi rally where

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Speaker 2: they marched in homage to him, and that Kirk died

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Speaker 2: too late. Visa revoked. There's like four other of these

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Speaker 2: people making statements of that nature.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think people get the idea.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Following Kirkstath Rubio to announce he would be looking

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Speaker 2: for visa holders who made statements following Kirk's death, and

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Speaker 2: he has followed through on that promise in some other

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Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk news. A few weeks ago, Turning Point USA

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Speaker 2: officially announced that they would be producing an alternative halftime

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Speaker 2: show after it was announced that the Puerto Rican artist

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Speaker 2: Bad Bunny would be performing at the twenty twenty six

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl. The TPUSA show will be called a Quote

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Speaker 2: All American Halftime Show, celebrating faith, family, and freedom. The

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Speaker 2: website has a submission form where it asks which genres

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Speaker 2: should be featured during the show. The options include quote

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Speaker 2: anything in English, American classic rock, country, hip hop, pop,

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Speaker 2: and worship.

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Speaker 1: I love anything in English as a genre.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. When I get to Spotify, that's what I put in.

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Speaker 1: The crowd's gonna riot when someone does Hotel California.

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Speaker 2: We can really push anything at English. Frankly, we could

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Speaker 2: go to some pretty he places.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I didn't think they've already considered the breadth

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Speaker 4: of that genre.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: I will say. How they could get me back on

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Speaker 1: board is in if in addition to a separate halftime show,

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Speaker 1: they had a separate super Bowl in which Ben Shapiro

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Speaker 1: faces off alone against the Philadelphia Eagles.

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Speaker 3: Oh that would be so fun.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would let Ben Shapiro bring some friends.

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Speaker 3: No, No, I want to see Jalen Hurts physically pick

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Speaker 3: up Ben Shapiro and see how far he can pass him,

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Speaker 3: because I'm pretty, I'm.

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Speaker 1: Pretty sud at least at least sixty year.

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Speaker 3: That guy Benches. That guy could like bench a small

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Speaker 3: motor vehicle like benches Shapiro. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: More details and performers will be announced later, including how

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Speaker 2: this will be broadcast, will be streamed online? Are they

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Speaker 2: don't trying to make a TV deal with someone like,

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Speaker 2: you know, Fox? You know, unclear how this will be broadcast,

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Speaker 2: but it is something they're going to go through. On

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Speaker 2: last thing we should probably talk about before the break

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Speaker 2: or I don't know, maybe maybe we could combine this

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Speaker 2: with the section you wanted to talk about Robert on

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Speaker 2: the Infiltrations. But right after our Executive Disorder episode from

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Speaker 2: two weeks ago, literally like like hours after, on October eighth,

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Speaker 2: right wing influencers gathered at the White House to discuss

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Speaker 2: with Trump and cabinet members their theories and carrowing stories

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Speaker 2: of Antifa at this big Antifa roundtable. Yeah, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: play a short clip like a few seconds from Jack

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Speaker 2: Pasoba get in there noted far.

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Speaker 3: Right extremist and poster Jack.

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Speaker 1: Pasobic certainly noted poster it's a great guy. Yeah, Antifa

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Speaker 1: is real.

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Speaker 8: Antifa has been around in various iterations for almost one

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Speaker 8: hundred years, in some instances, going back to the Weimar

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Speaker 8: Republic in Germany.

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Speaker 2: Huh, I wonder, I wonder why it went back to

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Speaker 2: the Wymar republican German? What what? What else was happening

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Speaker 2: at that time in Germany. It's very interesting you say that, Jack,

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Speaker 2: Very interesting, Jack. What other opinions do you have on

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Speaker 2: Fimar Republic?

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Speaker 4: Jack?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So this is worrisome, right, the fact that these

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Speaker 1: idiots are getting to speak this close to power about

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Speaker 1: their theory, which is basically that everyone they don't like

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Speaker 1: or who has said anything they don't like as part

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Speaker 1: of a terrorist organization and should be put in prisoner executed.

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Speaker 1: Like that's the gist of what all of the people

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Speaker 1: at that roundtable believe.

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Speaker 2: A whole bunch of like, you know, post millennial people,

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Speaker 2: and you know that that that whole that whole right,

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Speaker 2: like a genre of like you know, right wing antifa journalists, journalistic.

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Speaker 1: Yes, everyone I don't like equals terrorists. Yes, So that's

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Speaker 1: really worrisome, and I just I kind of wanted to

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Speaker 1: make a note here to people that as a result

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Speaker 1: of stuff like this, in case you somehow have not

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Speaker 1: been aware of this, we're going to be seeing a

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Speaker 1: massive ramp up in not just attempts at prosecution, but

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Speaker 1: at attempts to infiltrate and get gotcha footage and audio

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Speaker 1: of different left wing and anarchist groups that are going

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Speaker 1: to be used as pretexts for further crackdowns. I would

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Speaker 1: say it's just a time to be aware of that

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Speaker 1: and be aware of the fact that anytime you are

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Speaker 1: speaking or at a public event where other people are speaking,

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Speaker 1: you should assume that that's being recorded and that people

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Speaker 1: will be pulling out the worst parts they can from

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Speaker 1: it and trying to use that to destroy people's lives.

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Speaker 1: And I bring that up because there's been a couple

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Speaker 1: that just really broke today, some potentially pretty high profile

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Speaker 1: examples of this. One of them is that at a

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Speaker 1: panel for Firestorm Books, they had a speaker, guy named

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Speaker 1: Eric King, who was convicted of a firebombing. He's a

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Speaker 1: left wing activist. He spent almost ten years in prison,

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Speaker 1: at a horrific time in prison. I mean just abused

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Speaker 1: by the system and some of the worst playways possible

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Speaker 1: and is finally out. And Eric did a talk at

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Speaker 1: Firestorm Books and he made basically his statement that activists

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Speaker 1: need to hurt them where it counts, saying we can

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Speaker 1: force them to shut the fuck up when it hurts

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Speaker 1: their wallilet enough, or you can find other ways to

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Speaker 1: hurt them. Now that's not saying anything inherently illegal. Again,

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Speaker 1: he starts it by saying we can force them to

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Speaker 1: shut up when it hurts their wallet enough. That's talking

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Speaker 1: about like boycotts and stuff. But the phrase other ways

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Speaker 1: to hurt them is vague enough. That's pretty easy for

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Speaker 1: these guys to cut stuff out. And I'm looking at

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Speaker 1: a post by quote end quote investigated analysts for the

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Speaker 1: Manhattan STU Smith. He's framing this as known ANTIFA firebomber

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Speaker 1: calls for escalation, and again that's not necessarily inaccurate look

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Speaker 1: at what Eric was saying. But it's easy to pull

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Speaker 1: stuff out like this from something like what appears to

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Speaker 1: have been a fairly open zoom call that is not

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Speaker 1: hard for someone to get in to and record and

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Speaker 1: pull something out of to try and make the case

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Speaker 1: that someone like Eric should be back in prison, or

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Speaker 1: that Firestorm Books is a party, you know, providing material

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Speaker 1: support to an extremist organization. And what I'm not trying

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Speaker 1: to do is say like and so people should not

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Speaker 1: talk and gather in public because they're going to be

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Speaker 1: doing this. But you need to be aware that anything

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Speaker 1: said it's something like this that's in any way open,

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Speaker 1: and even if you try to make it kind of

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Speaker 1: more closed than this, they will try to get people in.

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Speaker 1: This is something that is increasingly going to happen, and

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Speaker 1: so people just need to be You can't you can't

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Speaker 1: just kind of hope that they're not paying attention. You

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Speaker 1: have to be aware of the fact that they're out

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Speaker 1: there and they're going to be trying to infiltrate any

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Speaker 1: sort of thing like this they can to get pretexts

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Speaker 1: for further crackdowns. And another recent example of this Frontlines

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Speaker 1: tp USA, which is Turning Point ussays, I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: their version of the actual front line journalism show. But

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Speaker 1: they did an investigation where they went undercover to the

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Speaker 1: Oakland in Seattle anarchist book fairs, right, and again, there's

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Speaker 1: nothing wrong with doing those book fairs, I'm sure what

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Speaker 1: they're doing here is pulling whatever quotes they could grab

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Speaker 1: from people that sound bad out of context and using

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Speaker 1: them to try to make the case that again, these

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Speaker 1: are violent extremist events that need to be cracked down on.

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Speaker 1: And I will reiterate I'm not saying don't do book fares.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying don't show up at events like this.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying if you show up, be aware that stuff

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Speaker 1: like this is going to be happening, that they're going

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Speaker 1: to be people recording, that they're going to be people

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Speaker 1: trying to find what they can to destroy people who

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Speaker 1: are at these events, and that that's something that needs

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Speaker 1: to be in your threat model, right in terms of

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Speaker 1: how you dress when you go there, how visible you are,

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Speaker 1: and what you're willing to say around people, right, among

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Speaker 1: other things. I guess what I'm saying is there's some

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Speaker 1: jokes you shouldn't be making in public at events like

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Speaker 1: this unless you want there to be a high risk

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Speaker 1: of it coming back to bite you in the ass.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think that's that's perfectly reasonable.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 2: During the ANTIFA roundtable panel, this guy named Seamus Brunners. Seamus,

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Speaker 2: It says, seamss guys Jesus. It says seems that that

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Speaker 2: is does We're gonna have to stop you right that

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Speaker 2: that's that's a shame, but it says Seamus the director

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Speaker 2: of research at the Government Accountability Institute, discussed his theory

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Speaker 2: of how a network of NGOs are funding Antifa. This

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Speaker 2: is a this is a longer clip, but I think

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Speaker 2: it's important to look at how they are approaching this,

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Speaker 2: like how they are approaching this Antifa as an organization.

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Speaker 5: This is not just a story about violence and chaos,

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Speaker 5: as you alluded to, mister President. This is a money story.

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Speaker 5: And at the Government Accountability Institute, my colleague and I,

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Speaker 5: Peter schoy I and our team we follow the money

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Speaker 5: and we followed it to the top of what we

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Speaker 5: call the protest industrial complex riot Inc. And we found

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Speaker 5: a network of NGOs. It's not just the Soros network,

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Speaker 5: the Open Society network, it's other funding networks, the Arabella

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Speaker 5: funding network, the Tides funding network, Neville Roy Singham and

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Speaker 5: his network, Foreign Cash, and it's also big left wing

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Speaker 5: funder Some of them are not citizens of this country,

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Speaker 5: mister Hans jorg Vis of Switzerland. They're pouring money into

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Speaker 5: this entire ecosystem. And so I want to share three

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Speaker 5: money facts with you about what we call Riot Inc.

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Speaker 5: Number One, like any corporation, Riot Inc. Has many divisions.

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Speaker 5: It doesn't just have the Antifa boots on the ground division.

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Speaker 5: It has pr divisions, it has marketing divisions, It has

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Speaker 5: a very well funded legal division to get these boots

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Speaker 5: on the ground back on the streets as quickly as possible.

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Speaker 5: But it does have those investors that I mentioned. Number two,

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Speaker 5: we have identified dozens of radical organizations, not just the

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Speaker 5: decentralized Antifa organizations, but dozens of radical organizations that have

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Speaker 5: received more than one hundred million dollars from the riot

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Speaker 5: Ink investors. These would be the lawyer groups, These would

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Speaker 5: be the groups that advocate for calling good, honest Americans fascists,

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Speaker 5: et cetera. And then three, I think the most shocking

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Speaker 5: thing is that we have found that more than one

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Speaker 5: hundred million dollars in US taxpayer funding has flowed into

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Speaker 5: these funding networks, including at least four million dollars to

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Speaker 5: these very groups themselves, not just Antifa types. But there

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Speaker 5: was an event in Atlanta called stopcop City. Over sixty

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Speaker 5: rioters were charged with domestic terrorism. These groups received money

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Speaker 5: for that from both the billionaire class as well as

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Speaker 5: taxpayer money.

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Speaker 2: Unclear what he's talking about in terms of taxpayer money

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Speaker 2: going to the sixty RICO defendants in Atlanta, But the

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Speaker 2: structure's talking about, how is riot Inc Includes not just

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Speaker 2: like Antifa as in you know, people wearing black hoodies

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Speaker 2: on the streets at a protest, but like, you know,

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Speaker 2: legal support organizations, even like like research organizations that you

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Speaker 2: know advocate calling you know, good honest American's fascists, right

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Speaker 2: this this could refer to groups like Media Matters or

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Speaker 2: like Southern Poverty Law Center who do research into extremist organizations.

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Speaker 2: They could be framing the people like that as a

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Speaker 2: part of this this whole ecosystem, and that's that's where

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Speaker 2: they could be looking at for sources of money and

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Speaker 2: funding and like tracking where that money goes is in

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Speaker 2: groups like that, not obviously you know, your average black

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Speaker 2: claud Antifa protesters, not it's not receiving payment for their

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Speaker 2: presence at these at these events. But this guy went

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Speaker 2: on to claim that quote unquote, Riot Inc. Funding network

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Speaker 2: also supports decentralized crowdfunding platforms which fund organizations like the

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Speaker 2: ELM for John Brown gun club and these Socialist Rifles Association.

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Speaker 2: After he went on this like three minute long speech,

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Speaker 2: Trump asked him and other attendees that if they knew

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Speaker 2: anything about like ANTIFA members, funders, or the organizational structure,

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Speaker 2: to hand over that information to Pam Bondie or Cash

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Speaker 2: Patel and Trump reiterated this multiple times during the roundtable,

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Speaker 2: asking these you know, policy guys or quote unquote independent

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Speaker 2: journalists to hand over their information to the authorities. Here's

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Speaker 2: one version of him making this request.

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Speaker 7: Do you know the name of any of the funders?

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Speaker 7: Do you know the names? Because if you do, I'd

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Speaker 7: like you to give them to Cash or Pam.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely well, Christy, yeah, we'll do as soon as you can.

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Speaker 7: That's all of you, because you probably know the names.

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Speaker 7: After a certain period of time, you tend to find out.

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Speaker 7: But these are people that do not have good intention

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Speaker 7: for the country, and that's uh creasiness probably, So if

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Speaker 7: you could, if you very important, if you could do that,

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Speaker 7: it would be a great Nobody would know better than you.

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Speaker 7: You'll figure it out.

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Speaker 1: Share man cool.

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Speaker 2: During this roundtable, Pam Bondi, the Attorney General, reiterated how

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Speaker 2: Antifa should be treated like an organized criminal gang and

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Speaker 2: that law enforcement are going to quote unquote take the

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Speaker 2: same approach as it does handling foreign drug cartels. It's

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Speaker 2: a side note the United States has maybe that's what

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Speaker 2: those guided missions repeatedly lodged missiles at what it claims

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Speaker 2: are boats associated with foreign drug cartels.

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Speaker 4: I'll just say we have an episode next week about

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Speaker 4: the ongoing drone campaign in the Caribbean.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of funders, here's some of ours for the central

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Speaker 2: all Right, we are back.

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Speaker 4: Great so nice to hear from the products and services

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Speaker 2: It's tariff talk. We're back baby, yeah yeah.

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Speaker 3: So literally within twelve hours I think of the of

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Speaker 3: the release at night of our last episode of this show,

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Speaker 3: we got the resumption of the trade war, so specifically,

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Speaker 3: Trump has announced effectively the full scale resumption of the

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Speaker 3: trade will which China. This started kind of out of

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Speaker 3: nowhere with Trump administration doing something that I think they

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Speaker 3: didn't think was very provocative, because I don't quite think

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Speaker 3: they understood the magnitude of what they were doing. This

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Speaker 3: basically started with a Trump administration massively increasing export restrictions

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Speaker 3: to China by changing the rules of what companies are

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Speaker 3: covered by what's called the Entity List, which is a

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Speaker 3: list of companies that American companies are not allowed to

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Speaker 3: sell goods and services to. The administration moved this to

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Speaker 3: include any company that is fifty percent or more owned

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Speaker 3: by a company on the export list. We've discussed on

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Speaker 3: the show before that a significant part of the structure

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Speaker 3: of Chinese corporate conglomerates are held together by a bunch

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Speaker 3: of different companies, you know, having partial ownership by the

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Speaker 3: same holding companies, which is what sort of binds companies

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Speaker 3: and conglomerates together into race them into the management structure

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Speaker 3: of the conglomerates. This is how Chinese state owned enterprises work.

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Speaker 3: Being state owned enterprise literally means that you are partly

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Speaker 3: or completely owned by a holding company run by SASSAK,

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Speaker 3: which is the state owned Asset Supervision and Administration Commission

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Speaker 3: of the State Council, because every name of the CCP

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Speaker 3: is like that. So this shift to anything that's fifty

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Speaker 3: percent or more owned by a company on this list

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Speaker 3: is actually a massive export restriction, and the Chinese government

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Speaker 3: took this as okay, we're starting the trade war again,

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Speaker 3: so very quickly. There's a whole bunch of different tat

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Speaker 3: things that we're not going to track the order of

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Speaker 3: because they kind of don't matter. But on October tenth,

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Speaker 3: Trump made a Twitter post where he said that he

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Speaker 3: was going to implement a one hundred percent tariff and

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Speaker 3: also a software restriction thing we'll talk about later. Those

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Speaker 3: are supposed to go into effect on the first. He's

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Speaker 3: also been talking in the last week about bringing tariffs

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Speaker 3: up to one hundred and fifty percent. We don't have

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Speaker 3: any kind of formal executive order on that. This was

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Speaker 3: to some extent in response to China implementing massive restrictions

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Speaker 3: on the export of rare earth metals. These are crucial

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Speaker 3: to basically any kind of advanced manufacturing, industrial manufacturing, applications

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Speaker 3: everything from chips, electric cars that jet fighters. These are

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Speaker 3: set to take effect on December first. I'm going to

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Speaker 3: read this from the New York Times to get an

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Speaker 3: understanding of how large these moves are. China refines ninety

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Speaker 3: nine percent of the world's prosium, a kind of rare

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Speaker 3: earth metal that is used in chips to preserve magnetic

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Speaker 3: stability even when they become hot. In the last few years,

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Speaker 3: Nvidia and other semi conductor manufacturers have changed the materials

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Speaker 3: used in electricity management devices called capacitors, which is a

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Speaker 3: really funny way to describe a capacitor, by the way,

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Speaker 3: but on chips to make them more heat resistant. The

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Speaker 3: capacitors are made from ultra pure dysprosium, which is extremely

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Speaker 3: difficult to refine. A single refinery in Wushi, near Shanghai

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Speaker 3: produces the entire world's supply, so prove New York Times.

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Speaker 3: These support restrictions include any good that is produced with

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Speaker 3: these rare earth metals, and require foreign companies operating in China,

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Speaker 3: like for example, Samsung or any of the sort of

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Speaker 3: South Korean or Taiwanese chip manufacturers to acquire export licenses

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Speaker 3: to you know, like sell them to any other country

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Speaker 3: that's not China. That is a absolutely massive restriction on

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Speaker 3: export goods. And also again a whole bunch of critical

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Speaker 3: minerals that both the American military apparatus relies on and

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Speaker 3: whole bunch of these things. So you know, in the

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Speaker 3: middle of this process, the US also started charging Chinese

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Speaker 3: built ships for docking at US ports, which China retaliated

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Speaker 3: by imposing docking fees for American ships. I'm going to

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Speaker 3: go and read from New York Times here. The new

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Speaker 3: rules are the most stringent for Chinese shipping companies, which

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Speaker 3: for the most part, cannot avoid the levies. HSBC, an

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Speaker 3: investment bank, estimated that Costco not that Costco different one,

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Speaker 3: a large Chinese shipping line, could pay one point five

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Speaker 3: billion dollars in fees next year, which the bank said

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Speaker 3: could reduce Costco's operating earnings by nearly three fourths in

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty six. And again, it's it's worth it's worth

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Speaker 3: noting that these shipping, these shipping companies are the backbone

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Speaker 3: of global trade. They also their margins are not very

876
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 3: good and a significant number of them basically only didn't

877
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:33,720
Speaker 3: go under dream lock during the lockdowns because they effectively

878
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 3: lied on their loan applications and we're just sort of

879
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 3: putting in their revenue as if the lockdowns weren't happening.

880
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 3: So this is all very very fragile infrastructure that is

881
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 3: being you know, attacked, and these these port fees are

882
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 3: already in.

883
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 2: Effect me doing gay cruising on my European trip. Yeah,

884
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 2: I like global trade, all right, I continue.

885
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 3: Oh god, okay, So we also got to report today.

886
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 3: This is Wednesday, the twenty seconds this is being reported,

887
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 3: so who fucking knows what will be happening by the

888
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 3: time this episode comes out. But on Wednesday, we've got

889
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 3: to report from Reuters about the other one of the

890
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:17,320
Speaker 3: other options that Trump administration is considering for these massive

891
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 3: sort of trade attacks on China. So I said, I

892
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 3: said earlier when I talked about the one hundred percent tariff,

893
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 3: Trump also mentioned a software export ban. So perb Reuters,

894
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 3: what's being considered here, and again we have note we

895
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 3: have very few concrete details about this. This hasn't been

896
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 3: formally announced, my guests, is that it's being leaked to

897
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 3: routers by the administration, but I just don't know. But

898
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 3: what they're considering basically is a version of the sanctions

899
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:52,760
Speaker 3: that effectively Biden applied to Russia after the invasion of Ukraine,

900
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,800
Speaker 3: which restricts the export of any product made with US software.

901
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 3: This would be probably the most significant developments of the

902
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 3: entire trade war. And so these are all incredibly significant escalations.

903
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 3: A bunch of the stuff is set to go into

904
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 3: effect on November first, which is very very soon now.

905
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,839
Speaker 3: In theory, Trump and Chi Jianping are supposed to meet

906
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 3: at the meeting of the Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation Forum

907
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 3: in South Korea, but there's been no formal announcements of

908
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 3: their meeting. Trumps that he was going to go to

909
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 3: China and early next year, but that's again next year.

910
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 3: The American one hundred percent tariff again November first. The

911
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 3: Chinese export restrictions on rare earth metals again December first.

912
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

913
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 3: The other issue here is that the actual event starts

914
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 3: on October thirty first, and the first terrorists was supposed

915
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:44,879
Speaker 3: to going to affect the next day.

916
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 2: Very spooky, very spooky, indeed.

917
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so Trump is mad also about China refusing

918
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 3: to buy American soybeans story we've been covering. Yeah, and

919
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 3: you know, he's complaining about the rare earth metal soft

920
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,879
Speaker 3: and he's complaining about he's still yelling about fence and all.

921
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 3: But it's also worth mentioning one of the fascinating things

922
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 3: is Trump is continuing to piss off even more parts

923
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,439
Speaker 3: of his base with this stuff. So soybean farmers, which

924
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 3: is again a huge portion of American farmers, are really

925
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 3: mad at him. He's also pissing off cattle ranchers, So

926
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 3: both the soybean farmers and the cattle ranchers are mad

927
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 3: at Trump for giving a bunch of money to Argentina

928
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 3: and not giving them a bunch of money and cutting

929
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 3: off their ACKs to Chinese markets because Argentina again is

930
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 3: selling a whole bunch of stuff to China. One of

931
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 3: the things that they sell to China is beef, because

932
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 3: Argentina is a major beef exporter. So they're all really

933
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:39,319
Speaker 3: mad at him for giving Argentina a giant bailout in

934
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,839
Speaker 3: order to try to save they're failing economy under their

935
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 3: unhinged an arco capitalist and president who has annihilated the

936
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 3: economy even more than it was before. And then Trump's

937
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 3: response to the cattle ranchers being mad at him was

938
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,839
Speaker 3: telling them to lower their prices, which means they're even

939
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 3: more mad at him. So he is systematically alienating too

940
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 3: of what should be his most important basis of support.

941
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:05,320
Speaker 3: And like the cattle industry has been a based Republican

942
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 3: support for I mean since time of Memorial. Effectively, the

943
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 3: lumber and vanity tariffs that we mentioned last week have

944
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:17,280
Speaker 3: taken effect now there's been no rollback of them. And finally,

945
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 3: I want to close on a story that we're going

946
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 3: to be covering more on Monday, which is the continuing

947
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 3: escalation of a sort of conflict between Colombia and the

948
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 3: US after the US murders about full of what appeared

949
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 3: to be Columbian fishermen. Yes, Columbia has recalled its ambassador,

950
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 3: and the US has said that it is going to

951
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:44,800
Speaker 3: eliminate all foreign aid and impose a tariff the size

952
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 3: of which they haven't given a consistent number. Four And

953
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 3: this is, you know, very much could look like a

954
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 3: pretty massive reorientation of American policy around Columbia, which has

955
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 3: traditionally been an American ally And we've ran desk squads

956
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:03,439
Speaker 3: out of there for a very very long time. Yeah,

957
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 3: and that has been the lightning round rapid fire trade

958
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:14,359
Speaker 3: war coverage because oh boy, yeah, yay, we've tariff talked.

959
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:17,720
Speaker 2: All right. Before we close, I do want to talk

960
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 2: a little bit about one of the news stories this

961
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 2: week about US political figures being like Nazism. No, not

962
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:31,320
Speaker 2: the main candidate, and no, not that other Republican staffer

963
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:35,400
Speaker 2: who had a swastika in his cubicle. The political story

964
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 2: that reported leaked messages from the New York Young Republican

965
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 2: telegram chat, which already tells you that it's going to

966
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 2: be problematic, the fact that they have a telegram chat. Yeah,

967
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 2: but the Political reported that this chat contain messages about

968
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 2: putting political opponents in gas chambers, loving Hitler, as well

969
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 2: as plenty of anti semitism, talking about raping their enemies,

970
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 2: and hundreds of uses of homophonebic and raycistlers. The chair

971
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 2: of the New York State Young Republicans, Bobby Walker, allegedly

972
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 2: called rape epic and wrote in the chat quote if

973
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 2: we ever had a leak of this chat, we would

974
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 2: be cooked unquote. New York Republican Elise Stephanic first denounced

975
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:23,840
Speaker 2: this chat after the report, though later called the Politico

976
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 2: piece a quote unquote hit job. The Matt Walsh side

977
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 2: of the online right condemned those who leaked the chats,

978
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 2: neglecting to discuss the substance of the chat itself, while

979
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 2: Vance largely dismissed the affair, writing on X the Everything

980
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 2: App quote I refused to join the pearl clutching when

981
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 2: powerful people call for political violence unquote. Vance falsely referred

982
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 2: to this as a college group chat when team members

983
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 2: were as old as forty years old. A day later,

984
00:53:56,320 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 2: while guesting on the Charlie Kirk Show, JD. Vance continue

985
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 2: to push back on the seriousness of this story and

986
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 2: play defense by repeatedly referring to the grown that involved

987
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 2: to our in their twenties and forties as kids and

988
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:10,280
Speaker 2: young boys.

989
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,359
Speaker 9: Somehow they got their hands on something like twenty eight

990
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 9: thousand messages in some group chat group chat of I

991
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 9: think twelve people that nobody's ever heard of. But they

992
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 9: decided to just publish every single thing in this chat,

993
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 9: whatever they found that they thought was the most salacious,

994
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 9: and I think ten years ago there would have been

995
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,240
Speaker 9: a very different response to it. But people are starting

996
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 9: to learn from this and the vice president.

997
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 8: Is one of the reasons why I'm sorry. Focus on

998
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 8: the real issues, don't focus on what kids say in

999
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 8: group chats. But there's another angle to this that I

1000
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 8: just have to be honest about. I mean, I'm like

1001
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 8: an old guy at this one. I'm forty one years old.

1002
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 8: I have three kids. You know, I grew up in

1003
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 8: a different world, right where not most of what the

1004
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 8: stupid things that I did when I was a teenager

1005
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 8: and a young adult, they're not on the internet. Like

1006
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 8: I'm going to tell my kids, especially my boys, don't

1007
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 8: put things on the end, Like, be careful with what

1008
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 8: you post. If you put something in a group chat,

1009
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 8: assume that some scumbag is going to leak it in

1010
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:08,359
Speaker 8: an effort to try to cause you harm or cause

1011
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 8: your family harm. But the reality is that kids do

1012
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:16,800
Speaker 8: stupid things, especially young boys. They tell edgy, offensive jokes,

1013
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 8: like that's what kids do. And I really don't want

1014
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 8: us to grow up in a country where a kid

1015
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 8: telling a stupid joke, telling a very offensive, stupid joke

1016
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,320
Speaker 8: is caused to ruin their lives. And at some point

1017
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 8: we're all going to have to say enough of this. Bs.

1018
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 8: We're not going to allow the worst moment and a

1019
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 8: twenty one year old's group chat to ruin a kid's

1020
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 8: life for the rest of time.

1021
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 1: That's just not okay.

1022
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 8: Like, we live in a digital world. This stuff is

1023
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 8: now etchtin stone online. We're all going to have to say,

1024
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 8: you know what, no, no, no, we're not doing this.

1025
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 8: We're not canceling kids because they do something stupid in

1026
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:53,799
Speaker 8: a group chat. And if I have to be the

1027
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 8: person who carries that message forward, I'm fine with him.

1028
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 5: Right.

1029
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:59,840
Speaker 2: Once again, most of these guys are like in their thirties.

1030
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 2: These guys are adults. You know, the New York Young

1031
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 2: Republicans is not a whole bunch of kids. These are young,

1032
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 2: like political in political years, because everyone who runs the

1033
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 2: country is quasi geriatric. Self proclaimed theocratic fascist Matt Walsh said, quote,

1034
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:20,919
Speaker 2: the right doesn't stick together. That's our biggest problem. By far,

1035
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 2: Conservatives are quick to denounce each other, jump on dog piles,

1036
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:27,439
Speaker 2: disavow attack their allies. I said a few weeks ago

1037
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:30,239
Speaker 2: that we all need to band together in the wake

1038
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:32,799
Speaker 2: of Charlie's death, and the answer I got back from

1039
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 2: a lot of people on the right was basically no, Well, okay,

1040
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 2: then guys, we'll just lose. Instead, the left will keep

1041
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 2: up the United Front and defend their guys no matter what. Well,

1042
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 2: we keep throwing each other to the wolves at every opportunity.

1043
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:54,840
Speaker 2: Great plan. Unquote. Shapiro did beef a bit with Walsh

1044
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 2: on one of their daily wire group podcasts regarding the

1045
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 2: substance of these chats. Shapiro did seem more concerned at

1046
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 2: the growing anti Semitic and not the fascistic element of

1047
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 2: the Republican Party, whereas Walsh is does not care about

1048
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:14,720
Speaker 2: that at all. Yeah, yeah, yeah, not not a problem

1049
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 2: for self proclaimed theocratic fascist Matt Walsh. Yeah, so that's

1050
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 2: one side of this whole political story that I wanted

1051
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:23,959
Speaker 2: to talk about. You should just read the political piece.

1052
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 2: I'm sure lots people have. It got pretty popular a

1053
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 2: few days ago. But I find the sort of I mean,

1054
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 2: I would have called it like the dissident right reaction,

1055
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 2: But when you have the vice president as like, yep,

1056
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 2: the guy leading the charge on this type of stuff,

1057
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 2: it's not really distanct Like there is a large number

1058
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 2: of Republicans who are condemning the contents of this chat,

1059
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 2: but you do have the vice president of the country

1060
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 2: playing defense for it, Yeah, and for the people involved.

1061
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 3: And I think this is actually a very important thing

1062
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 3: about what the structure of the Republican Party is right now,

1063
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 3: which is these kind of low levels like staffers, right

1064
00:57:57,880 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 3: the young Republican people, and these are a bunch of

1065
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 3: people who are from making White House policy. You know,

1066
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 3: Stephen Miller is, you know, the guy who's doing a

1067
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 3: whole bunch of a whole bunch of the sort of

1068
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 3: ethnic cleansing deportation policy right now. Are just Nazis. They're

1069
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 3: just Nazis. And every time one of these group jets

1070
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 3: comes out, it looks like this. And that's a really

1071
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,919
Speaker 3: significant factor in why American politics looks like this, which

1072
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 3: is that like the people who are entering the Republican

1073
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 3: Party right now, who are like their sort of youth

1074
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 3: wing quote unquote, are these people and we're seeing their

1075
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 3: policies get enacted. It fucking sucks.

1076
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 2: I mean, it's often baked in this like post ironic,

1077
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 2: like like a joking way, where you know, obviously the Nazis,

1078
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 2: some people in these circles say, obviously the Nazis themselves

1079
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 2: are bad, but we're using this as like a a

1080
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 2: medic signifier Yeah, for like nationalism and for all of

1081
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 2: these things. Now there is a fair number of people

1082
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 2: who just will straight up defend the Nazis, absolutely, but

1083
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 2: I think it's it's it goes beyond, like like this

1084
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 2: isn't German national socialism, Like it goes, it goes, it

1085
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 2: goes beyond to like they're using Nazism as a meme

1086
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 2: for their political project, and memes get used a lot

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Speaker 2: in these types of safe spaces where people can joke around.

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Speaker 2: So you see that very clearly here, But you also

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Speaker 2: see it on like the DHS Twitter account you use,

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Speaker 2: you see the same kind of like post ironic stuff

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Speaker 2: like a few weeks ago they were fucking moon Man posting.

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Speaker 2: You can google that one if you want to. You

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Speaker 2: don't have time to explain, but that's a very old

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Speaker 2: like internet nazi dog whistle. And you know, we've I've

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Speaker 2: talked a decent bit about my feelings on like focusing

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Speaker 2: a lot on like the DHS Twitter dog whistles. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: it is it is in invoking of this stuff for

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Speaker 2: this like mimetic like archetypal context that they surround themselves in.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you know, doing the actual thing, which

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Speaker 3: is going out and rounding up a whole bunch of

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Speaker 3: doing these ice rights now white people and like the ice.

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Speaker 2: Recruiting ads are like the clearest exac sample of using

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Speaker 2: this type of memetic imagery for their actual political project

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Speaker 2: and then to act the thing physically. And it's very

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Speaker 2: clear there because there's very little disconnected in immediate transference. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's a very straight line. Yeah, James, want to close

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Speaker 2: us up on the great state of Alaska.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm talking about something not so great in Alaska.

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Speaker 2: But we normally do a fundraiser at the end.

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Speaker 4: So I wanted to put this here for those of

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Speaker 4: you who are not aware, because this has really got

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Speaker 4: enough coverage, in my opinion, A massive storm, in fact,

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Speaker 4: the remnants of a typhoon slammed into the west coast

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Speaker 4: of Alaska, leaving more than a thousand people without shelter

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Speaker 4: along the Yukon Coskoquim River. These are Alaska Native villages,

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Speaker 4: and their inhabitants are now climate refugees at the very

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Speaker 4: start of winter, right in the coldest place in the

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Speaker 4: United States. These villages are very remote. I spent some

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Speaker 4: time earlier this year in Alaska Native village not here

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Speaker 4: in the interior, just in the in territories. But these

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Speaker 4: guys are really only accessible by small planes or by boats,

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Speaker 4: which will make their recovery even harder.

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Speaker 2: Right. They're people who have lived by the.

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Speaker 4: Ocean or by the river for as long as people

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Speaker 4: have lived in the Americas, tens of thousands of years. Right.

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Speaker 4: A few months ago, the Trump EPA canceled a twenty

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Speaker 4: million dollar ground for flood protection which would have covered Kipnook,

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Speaker 4: one of these villages. Kipnook now and functioning doesn't exist.

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Speaker 4: Houses were torn off their foundations.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 4: There are multiple videos of people's whole houses floating away.

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Speaker 4: It's not just an instance of neglect or even a

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Speaker 4: single failure here, it's an example of decades of ignoring

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Speaker 4: the voices of indigenous people, especially Alaska Natives, when they

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Speaker 4: tell us that the climate crisis is real and that

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Speaker 4: it's already here.

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Speaker 2: Right. When the media looks at.

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Speaker 4: Climate change, they tend to want to look at data

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Speaker 4: they can measure in terms of numbers according to the

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Speaker 4: model of Western science. But I would argue that the

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Speaker 4: experience of Indigenous people who have lived on the land

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Speaker 4: for as long as human beings have lived anywhere on

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Speaker 4: this continent and have watched the changes and seen this

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Speaker 4: disaster unfold. Should be a warning to all of us

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Speaker 4: that the climate crisis is already here. I reached out

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Speaker 4: to some Alaska Native friends to ask where to donate,

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Speaker 4: and they shared a page which will be in the

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Speaker 4: show notes that the shows if you're able to help,

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Speaker 4: I think that's very important thing to do. Recovery for

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Speaker 4: these people with this federal government, with being as remote

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Speaker 4: as they are, will be horrifically difficult right now. Many

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Speaker 4: of them are living in Anchorage right Like I said,

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Speaker 4: they're going into the winter and then they don't have

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Speaker 4: a place to live. It's an unmitigated disaster. So if

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Speaker 4: you're able to help, I think it would be very

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Speaker 4: much appreciated. Before I go, I will say that if

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Speaker 2: We reported the news, We reported the news.

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Speaker 3: It could happen.

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