WEBVTT - Player’s Lounge: Unhinged with Hitchens 0:00:02.720 --> 0:00:05.160 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.200 --> 0:00:06.760 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:09.119 --> 0:00:11.600 Cowboys. 0:00:11.640 --> 0:00:16.919 This is the Players Lounge, broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys 0:00:17.000 --> 0:00:22.400 World headquarters at the Star. Now your hosts Darry Church, 0:00:22.760 --> 0:00:25.759 Heckma Harrison, and Newie Scruggs. 0:00:30.120 --> 0:00:33.880 Here we are Players loude time two pm right here 0:00:34.600 --> 0:00:38.080 from the SWBC podcast studio in the building here. 0:00:37.880 --> 0:00:40.200 In Frisco, Texas. 0:00:40.920 --> 0:00:44.519 Forty five minutes of Dallas Cowboys talk as we recap 0:00:44.720 --> 0:00:48.680 Week two Cowboys first home game of the year, the 0:00:48.720 --> 0:00:49.400 New Orleans. 0:00:49.200 --> 0:00:51.600 Saints coming here and score forty four points. 0:00:51.600 --> 0:00:55.000 The Cowboys scored nineteen plays out by you by Aristocrat Gaming. 0:00:55.080 --> 0:00:56.920 We have a special. 0:00:56.440 --> 0:01:02.360 Guest, former Dallas Cowboy and Super Champions Sir. He is 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:05.200 Anthony Hitchings in the building, former linebacker. 0:01:05.280 --> 0:01:06.520 Sir, you didn't bring the ring. 0:01:06.840 --> 0:01:08.880 No, nah, it's just sucked up. It's locked up. 0:01:09.360 --> 0:01:10.399 He was bringing a ring. 0:01:11.000 --> 0:01:12.200 We came for the ring. 0:01:12.840 --> 0:01:15.280 I ain't trying to lose it dropping in the car. 0:01:15.560 --> 0:01:18.000 It's locked up in the safe. I've seen it probably twice. 0:01:21.640 --> 0:01:27.039 Down right, every day. How y'all doing. Let me show 0:01:27.080 --> 0:01:29.160 you that. 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:30.760 I mean, yeah, that's how he came in here blinging enough, 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:35.440 Anthony Hitchins here in the house, Bury Church, former Cowboys safety. 0:01:35.480 --> 0:01:37.760 Here in the house we got Heckma Harrison, I am 0:01:37.800 --> 0:01:39.479 here all up here in the house. 0:01:39.520 --> 0:01:42.720 Something new struggs, and let's get to it. 0:01:44.120 --> 0:01:46.640 I'm just gonna eat this popcorn heap. Let you go 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:50.320 ahead start look at that. You see that, We gotta 0:01:50.440 --> 0:01:53.040 see that. So I came in the studio today and 0:01:53.080 --> 0:01:55.200 I said, man, I needed the twenty four hour rule, 0:01:55.240 --> 0:01:57.640 twenty four hour ruling full effect. I needed y'all to 0:01:57.640 --> 0:02:00.000 give me a little grace today because I'm touching, all right. 0:02:00.560 --> 0:02:03.680 I'm sensitive right now about my cowboys, and I can't 0:02:03.720 --> 0:02:05.000 believe what I saw yesterday. 0:02:05.200 --> 0:02:05.639 I can't. 0:02:05.880 --> 0:02:07.680 I mean a lot of things that happened yesterday that 0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:10.120 I couldn't have planned for. And I asked myself, was 0:02:10.160 --> 0:02:13.160 it just that the Carolina Panthers were that bad? Or 0:02:13.200 --> 0:02:16.920 did we overestimate the Cowboys on the Cleveland victory? And 0:02:17.000 --> 0:02:20.160 somewhere in between there's the truth, right somewhere in between, 0:02:20.560 --> 0:02:21.960 there is the truth, all right? 0:02:22.160 --> 0:02:25.000 And in that yeah, yeah, And in that and in that. 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:28.080 Truth we discovered a fatal flaw that we still have 0:02:29.040 --> 0:02:35.160 this run defense has not been fixed, and it was 0:02:35.200 --> 0:02:37.480 the worst and to me and to me when I 0:02:37.520 --> 0:02:40.000 look at New Orleans, say what you want to about 0:02:40.000 --> 0:02:42.800 Alvin Camorrow had a wonderful game. All the guys that 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:44.440 we talked about all week long that were going to 0:02:44.480 --> 0:02:47.840 have a good game. That offensive line for the New 0:02:47.960 --> 0:02:51.160 Orleans Saints. Quite honestly, at this point after two weeks 0:02:51.160 --> 0:02:53.840 and just evaluating everybody in the NFL, that might be 0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:56.839 one of the best offensive lines in the NFL right 0:02:56.880 --> 0:03:00.880 now with the way they are maneuvering and b act system, 0:03:01.240 --> 0:03:03.919 I mean, get into the second level. These guys were 0:03:04.000 --> 0:03:08.480 completely demolishing our defensive tackles and I mean iron this 0:03:08.560 --> 0:03:11.600 guy don't lie. And when you play the tape back, 0:03:12.440 --> 0:03:16.400 it looked just as worse as watching the game yesterday. So, man, 0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:19.120 one of my things is that defensive line. They are 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:20.880 sore this morning. 0:03:20.960 --> 0:03:22.840 Y'all. Y'all know about the soreness. 0:03:22.480 --> 0:03:25.680 Right, They are sore, and they may not be able 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:28.280 to practice till Wednesday, but it was It was probably 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:33.040 one of the most embarrassing and dismantling losses that I've 0:03:33.040 --> 0:03:35.000 seen the Cowboys have at home in a long time. 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:39.440 So the seventeen regular season game we were. 0:03:39.280 --> 0:03:42.600 Talking about you know, yeah, yeah, what about it? 0:03:42.720 --> 0:03:43.240 Yeah? 0:03:43.280 --> 0:03:46.680 I mean, look, neui be humble, right, be humble, be humble, 0:03:46.960 --> 0:03:49.160 Be humble, be humble, be humble. 0:03:48.960 --> 0:03:52.120 Because look, look, you're the only one that went out 0:03:52.120 --> 0:03:53.400 on the limb and picked New Orleans. 0:03:53.400 --> 0:03:53.800 I didn't. 0:03:54.320 --> 0:03:57.240 What do you mean everybody picked out? 0:03:57.720 --> 0:04:01.160 Then what you're talking about with what you're talking about willis? 0:04:01.720 --> 0:04:04.200 What are you talking about willis? If you picked them too? 0:04:04.520 --> 0:04:06.760 Then what are you looking overhead me for? 0:04:08.280 --> 0:04:10.880 I didn't. I didn't take are you wait a minute? 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:12.000 Shout? 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:14.880 Hold me out here last Monday? 0:04:15.760 --> 0:04:18.280 I wasn't here Monday. I wasn't here Monday. Yeah, but 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:21.320 he told me on Monday, you know you came was full. 0:04:21.480 --> 0:04:23.280 But wait a minute, Wait a minute. 0:04:23.600 --> 0:04:24.679 Was that twenty five room Monday? 0:04:24.720 --> 0:04:25.200 Wait a minute? 0:04:25.240 --> 0:04:29.600 What did I say on Monday? I said, humble yourself? 0:04:29.600 --> 0:04:31.680 Didn't I humble myself for Monday. 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:37.080 Twenty four hour rule? On Monday? There was a was bean? 0:04:37.200 --> 0:04:38.520 Was it a twenty four room? Chris? 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:42.960 We haven't, No, No, it was a twenty four on Monday. 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:45.840 But I need one of today, man, I'm sensitive right now. 0:04:45.920 --> 0:04:48.719 Man, hitch, hitch, you tell us what you saw in 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:51.359 this forty four the nineteen by Burger. 0:04:51.839 --> 0:04:53.839 Yeah, I mean that's a lot of points that's just 0:04:53.839 --> 0:04:54.320 sat there. 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:58.040 That's a lot of points forty five first, I mean, 0:04:58.080 --> 0:04:59.400 it's all correctable stuff. 0:04:59.400 --> 0:04:59.640 Though. 0:05:01.000 --> 0:05:03.960 I like seeing it, uh in a positive way or not. 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:06.880 Just you know, I've been in that situation before when 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:09.000 we gave up a lot of rushing yards and everybody's 0:05:09.000 --> 0:05:11.640 gonna be walking around trying to stop the run this week, guaranteed. 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:16.320 But I mean, you got to give credit to the Saints. Yeah, 0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:19.479 I mean, I mean they're a good ball club. And 0:05:19.520 --> 0:05:22.919 then they got healthy players their card, playing good tomorrow, 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:25.599 running the ball hard. So you gotta give credit to them. 0:05:25.720 --> 0:05:27.440 But I mean they I think they'll see them again 0:05:27.480 --> 0:05:29.200 about the end of the season and it'll be a different, 0:05:29.400 --> 0:05:30.040 different outcome. 0:05:30.200 --> 0:05:30.760 How about that. 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:36.080 Come about that new that's coming from you know, talk to. 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:39.320 Me, Okay, I'm talking to you right now. I love Hitch, Yeah, 0:05:39.440 --> 0:05:42.720 I love him. Hitch is coming in here being looking 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:44.800 at the positive. He look at the glass half full. 0:05:45.160 --> 0:05:47.000 I love it. You love it coming here to the 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:51.240 players lound being. Give me a nice account, a nice account. 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:53.640 We know what we saw yesterday. 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:56.279 Barry, you and I know what have we been saying 0:05:56.720 --> 0:05:58.240 all off season long? 0:05:59.200 --> 0:05:59.599 Think this? 0:06:00.240 --> 0:06:03.000 You had to fix this. That run deeds a problem. 0:06:03.200 --> 0:06:05.080 If you want to beat the Cowboys, run on them. 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:07.560 I said I had issues. What else did I say? 0:06:07.839 --> 0:06:09.919 Can you not only study? You can't stop the running, 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:11.480 you can't run the ball. What do we see yesterday? 0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:12.120 Good team? 0:06:12.240 --> 0:06:16.000 Good team? Right Cleveland compromise a little bit? 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:19.039 What we see us at thirty nine rushes one hundred 0:06:19.080 --> 0:06:20.920 nine of yards street touching, and then you got Comara 0:06:21.000 --> 0:06:22.719 not just going in so he lost in. 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:30.159 It was tough. It was tough. God, it embarrassing, embarrassing. 0:06:30.279 --> 0:06:33.599 So the things that we said, can you be a 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:36.400 good team when they've got it going? And right now 0:06:36.480 --> 0:06:40.760 we're back to where we were last time. And Kubiak, 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:45.640 shannonhan Tree and bro they got the book on the Cowboys. Man, 0:06:46.040 --> 0:06:49.000 it's bad. It's bad. But Hitch Hitch came in here 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:51.640 being kind and nice, messing super Bowl champions. 0:06:51.640 --> 0:06:52.599 That's what he's been. 0:06:53.320 --> 0:06:55.160 I think that's how you got a viewer, at least 0:06:55.200 --> 0:06:57.760 in the player's eyes, like you can't come in down, 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:00.640 or we gave up one hundred and yards or I'm 0:07:00.720 --> 0:07:03.680 thinking about all that you gotta set it like it's 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:06.360 a new week now, like that stuff is gone. Like 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:08.760 they say, twenty four hours, you win, twenty four hours, 0:07:08.760 --> 0:07:09.800 you lose, twenty that's over with. 0:07:10.120 --> 0:07:11.240 You got to go to the next week. 0:07:11.280 --> 0:07:16.600 It's it's seventeen games now, so they got time, honestly speaking, 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:18.280 and you can't count no one out in week two. 0:07:18.880 --> 0:07:21.200 Do not counting anybody out. But we just talked about 0:07:21.200 --> 0:07:24.840 what we saw. Yeah, like it is about what we saw, fast. 0:07:24.600 --> 0:07:25.760 Go ahead, church jumping. Yeah. 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:28.320 So you know, I like hitches approach on, you know, 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:31.480 with the positivity. You know, I went to the over 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:32.720 the war with this guy a couple. 0:07:32.560 --> 0:07:33.240 Of times out there. 0:07:33.240 --> 0:07:36.160 He understands what it is. So I love the positivity. 0:07:36.200 --> 0:07:38.560 But what shocked me in this game because we all 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:41.720 understood going into this game that they have some issues 0:07:41.720 --> 0:07:43.440 in the run defense. And I talked about it in 0:07:43.480 --> 0:07:46.200 the off season, you know, relying on you know guys 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:49.720 that you know maybe in year fourteen or fifteen may 0:07:49.800 --> 0:07:52.160 not be the biggest or the best way to go 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:52.520 about it. 0:07:52.560 --> 0:07:54.000 When you sign those two defensive tackles. 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:56.280 I'm talking about Limbo, Joseph and Phillips as well on 0:07:56.320 --> 0:07:57.000 the inside. 0:07:57.080 --> 0:07:58.600 You know, they struggled a lot. 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:00.280 In that game versus the New Orleans saying, I mean, 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:01.720 if you look at that run, the way they were 0:08:01.720 --> 0:08:03.560 able to gash his team up the middle where those 0:08:03.600 --> 0:08:06.880 guys were, that's something that you They left a lot out. 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:08.440 There to be desired. It's what I should say in there. 0:08:08.480 --> 0:08:10.680 But to me, that wasn't the shocking part about it, 0:08:10.720 --> 0:08:13.080 because we understand this run defense, you know, hasn't been 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:15.320 one of the best in the past couple of years. 0:08:15.320 --> 0:08:17.840 I understand that, you know, there's work in progress, all 0:08:17.880 --> 0:08:20.720 that great stuff. But what shocked me was the explosive plays. 0:08:20.880 --> 0:08:21.440 I mean, when you. 0:08:21.400 --> 0:08:23.880 Look at it, that's something that we haven't seen from 0:08:23.880 --> 0:08:27.240 this defense in that multitude of years. I mean, when 0:08:27.280 --> 0:08:30.520 you look at this game, you saw balls going over 0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:33.400 top of this defense, over top of the safeties, and 0:08:33.440 --> 0:08:37.040 that's something that we have not seen. Usually when this 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:39.920 Dallas Cowboys team works at its best defensively is when 0:08:39.960 --> 0:08:42.760 they're getting after the quarterback and they're forcing turnovers. What 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:45.280 we didn't see in that game was Derek Carr under 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:47.679 the rest, and that to me was shocking. It was 0:08:47.679 --> 0:08:50.640 shocked because no matter how the game goes, usually with 0:08:50.760 --> 0:08:52.400 Dallas Cowboys. They're gonna find a way to get after 0:08:52.400 --> 0:08:53.880 the quarterback. They're gonna find a way to get some 0:08:53.920 --> 0:08:56.679 sacks out there with that tief. That team did, and 0:08:56.760 --> 0:08:58.680 like you said, kudos to the Saints, you know, because 0:08:58.679 --> 0:09:00.480 that Kbak and what he was able to get through 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:03.200 out there was remarkable. They kept them in twelve and 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:06.000 twenty one person in people, big people, so they weren't 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:08.760 able to get all that speed that the Cowboys usually had. 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:10.760 They weren't able to get it on the field, and 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:14.720 they blocked up max protection two man routes and that 0:09:14.800 --> 0:09:17.160 gave you know, car a lot of time back there 0:09:17.160 --> 0:09:19.680 to step up in the pocket and cork some big 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:22.400 time bombs. And to me, I was surprised by that 0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:24.200 because there was some one on ones out there for 0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:26.520 some of the best pass rushers the Cowboys have, which 0:09:26.559 --> 0:09:30.000 is you know d Law Parsons, Odigizua. They had a 0:09:30.040 --> 0:09:31.720 lot of one on ones out there, but they weren't 0:09:31.760 --> 0:09:33.080 able to win those one on ones that we were 0:09:33.080 --> 0:09:35.760 accustomed to see. And that gave Derek Cardi ability to 0:09:35.800 --> 0:09:38.319 push the ball down the field and that's something that 0:09:38.559 --> 0:09:40.840 we haven't seen from this Dallas Cowboys defense in a 0:09:40.840 --> 0:09:41.240 long time. 0:09:41.280 --> 0:09:42.319 So that was a shocking part to me. 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:44.920 How many touchdown I mean, do you know how many 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:46.280 attempts he took in the game. 0:09:46.679 --> 0:09:48.360 I think it was low. It was like fourteen, right, 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:50.160 sixteen sixteen. 0:09:49.800 --> 0:09:54.320 Yeah, I was that was sixteen and that's that's pretty wild. 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:58.080 Eleven of sixteen, two hundred and forty two yards, two touchdown. 0:09:57.679 --> 0:09:58.760 To one pick man. 0:10:00.320 --> 0:10:02.679 And and and one play that really stock out of me. 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:04.240 You know, we talked, we talked. We saw that screen 0:10:04.320 --> 0:10:06.240 to Alba Camarda when he took sixty five yards for 0:10:06.280 --> 0:10:09.880 the end zone. If you look at that copy, Mariy 0:10:09.920 --> 0:10:11.640 Nelly would be unbelievably. 0:10:11.679 --> 0:10:12.840 Man. You you played under. 0:10:12.640 --> 0:10:16.959 Meredith the Marcus Lawrence handed out so many loafs on 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:19.480 that play. He passed up guys on the second level. 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:22.960 He was passing up defensive backs. You gotta everybody got 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:24.880 to have that mentality when you when you talk about 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:25.600 chasing after the ball. 0:10:25.600 --> 0:10:26.520 We understand it's an. 0:10:26.400 --> 0:10:29.160 Explosive play, we get it, but you gotta have some 0:10:29.200 --> 0:10:30.160 type of hustle out there. 0:10:30.240 --> 0:10:30.840 That played to me. 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:32.600 I was like, man, that's the first time I saw 0:10:32.679 --> 0:10:34.960 that defense looked defeated. All right, when you got the 0:10:35.000 --> 0:10:37.360 Marcus Lawrence, who was rushing the passer at the time, 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:39.720 turned back around and was passing guys up to get 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:41.400 to Kamorrow before he got to the end zone. 0:10:41.679 --> 0:10:43.440 That's something you can't have you on your defense. 0:10:43.480 --> 0:10:44.839 What's weird to me is what part of the game 0:10:44.880 --> 0:10:47.760 that happened, And that's early. That's the game that's not 0:10:47.800 --> 0:10:50.920 the games out of control? Are any of that? I mean, guys, 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:52.960 as y'all know, man, when you get the play, when 0:10:53.000 --> 0:10:56.719 it's play action and you are convinced that it's going, 0:10:57.040 --> 0:11:00.000 that the run is coming, guy's got to keep their eyes. 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:01.199 In the backfield. 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:04.120 And even if Jim made an adjustment from zone to man, 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:06.800 once you get once you hit the situation, as you know, 0:11:06.840 --> 0:11:09.560 the zone, the man killer is screens. If I can 0:11:09.640 --> 0:11:11.600 hit you with the screen, what's the difference. You got 0:11:11.640 --> 0:11:13.800 your back turn, you can't see what's going on. And 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:15.640 that's the thing with Alvin Kamara. By the time he 0:11:15.679 --> 0:11:17.680 caught the ball, he was one on one up with 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:20.199 the linebacker with Fredericks and it was over. 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:23.800 It was over. There was nothing you could do in 0:11:23.840 --> 0:11:24.440 that situation. 0:11:24.559 --> 0:11:26.280 So, I mean a lot of questions I've been hearing 0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:29.280 all this has Jim made in the adjustments. Even when 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:31.800 you made the adjustment, they beat you. 0:11:31.960 --> 0:11:32.680 Yeah. 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:35.000 Yeah, I think that the game plan was great man, 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:37.640 because now I'm looking at the twelve personalities. Can you 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:40.640 imagine being a d N and getting chip chip chip 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:43.800 and then they got the one on ones was dead tired, 0:11:44.559 --> 0:11:47.199 So like you're bringing out big people and you running 0:11:47.240 --> 0:11:49.120 it and then you chipping them two man routes. That 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:52.800 means they're with nine people, a lot of people blocking 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:55.360 chipping d n's and stuff. So I mean that could 0:11:55.400 --> 0:11:58.600 take away on your body. And then that opens up 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:00.760 to run. Nobody wants to be beat up all day 0:12:00.760 --> 0:12:02.839 and then line up and running ice so at you 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:05.440 like you know what I'm saying. So playing at that 0:12:05.559 --> 0:12:09.120 second level, uh, with with the play action, with the runs, 0:12:09.320 --> 0:12:10.559 I mean it could get difficult. 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:12.760 Like you got to look at the whole picture. I 0:12:12.760 --> 0:12:13.120 think the. 0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:17.199 Game plan was well thought of and uh and as 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:20.480 they continue to run, the bolly just just tired. After 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:23.400 after a certain point in the game, your body just 0:12:23.679 --> 0:12:26.200 you still mentally fighting like you're gonna keep going, but 0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:28.400 your body eventually you know, well, let. 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:29.920 Me let me ask you a question, because you know 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:31.920 when you were all those Super Bowl runs with the 0:12:32.000 --> 0:12:34.360 Kansas City Chiefs. You know you had to go against 0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:39.240 Shanahan and that and that difficult offensive system that basically 0:12:39.240 --> 0:12:39.920 they ran you. 0:12:39.920 --> 0:12:41.440 You played against them in the Super Bowl. 0:12:41.880 --> 0:12:44.920 Gary qb At, the offensive coordinator for the New Orleans Saints, 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:47.880 he's underneath that Shanahan tree, so he understands, you know 0:12:47.960 --> 0:12:51.640 what makes it so difficult playing against one of those 0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:54.360 type of coordinators that make you see a lot with 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:55.040 your eyes. 0:12:54.920 --> 0:12:59.760 Especially on that second level. Yeah, see, please tell us. 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:02.600 I think it's very tricky because they, like you said, 0:13:02.640 --> 0:13:04.400 they come out and big people, but you can get 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:06.880 to any information in it. So you got to have 0:13:06.960 --> 0:13:08.960 linebackers that can be able to walk out the box 0:13:09.000 --> 0:13:11.480 and make like they made. Linebackers make tackles in space 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:14.480 like the screens and stuff like that. 0:13:14.600 --> 0:13:15.880 So they do a good job. 0:13:15.880 --> 0:13:18.840 But like we call it eye candy, jet motion, somebody 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:21.040 this way, but the screen's going back. So it's like, 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:24.200 you gotta be disciplined. You can't be greedy like the 0:13:24.240 --> 0:13:26.720 guys that want the sacks or TFLs. It's probably going 0:13:26.760 --> 0:13:27.880 to show up in a negative way. 0:13:28.559 --> 0:13:29.360 You got everybody. 0:13:29.400 --> 0:13:33.480 You gotta be detailed and just know that if they 0:13:33.640 --> 0:13:36.400 ran the zone, they probably got to play action off 0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:38.360 of it, you know, or if they got the play 0:13:38.360 --> 0:13:40.720 action drop back, then they just dumped the screen. So 0:13:40.800 --> 0:13:42.920 you gotta think just be a step ahead of the 0:13:42.960 --> 0:13:44.200 coordinator and things like that. 0:13:44.240 --> 0:13:45.160 And they shift a lot. 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:49.200 They move guys, So it's tough, but you should know 0:13:49.280 --> 0:13:51.560 that tree. You should have been practicing in that tree 0:13:51.600 --> 0:13:52.600 like all week long. 0:13:52.760 --> 0:13:57.000 Like the mentality that you're talking about, like when they 0:13:57.200 --> 0:14:00.160 stretch those stretch runs, those zone runs, and they have 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:02.440 all those big bodies coming out at you, you have 0:14:02.520 --> 0:14:04.480 to pick those guys off one by one. So the 0:14:04.520 --> 0:14:07.120 mentality of that, I'm seeing them on first down pick 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:10.240 up seven eight yards on first down, Like, how did 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:12.440 you guys in Kansas City because y'all stop the run, 0:14:12.600 --> 0:14:14.520 then y'all had to load up to stop the run. 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:17.040 What was the mentality of that, because y'all didn't get tired. 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:20.120 Yeah, yeah, I just think that you got to just 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:21.680 go eight man football eight man spacing. 0:14:22.040 --> 0:14:23.200 That means you gap out. 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:28.520 Everyone has responsibility for ABC or the outside gaps. So 0:14:28.600 --> 0:14:30.800 like if you play against Gas, you can just go 0:14:30.880 --> 0:14:32.760 right to the thing and they're gonna show you. Nobody 0:14:32.800 --> 0:14:37.160 wants to get that little iPad ye little see where 0:14:37.160 --> 0:14:39.240 the ball went. So I think in Kansas City we 0:14:39.280 --> 0:14:42.280 made it real simple. Uh this line up, we had 0:14:42.280 --> 0:14:45.520 a really good offense. So it's like defense not just 0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:47.160 you don't go out there and give up thirty points, 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:48.640 like you know what I mean, You're gonna give up 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:51.840 some points, but like you you know, our big bucks 0:14:51.880 --> 0:14:54.440 are on this officer side. So what we did was 0:14:54.520 --> 0:14:58.480 we just play man and gapped out and it worked. 0:14:58.800 --> 0:15:02.000 And to this day, I mean, uh, spags are switching 0:15:02.040 --> 0:15:03.640 it up a little bit now because people starting to 0:15:03.640 --> 0:15:05.720 catch on a little bit. But when I was there 0:15:05.720 --> 0:15:07.600 in his first couple of years, man we gap out, 0:15:08.000 --> 0:15:10.320 uh eight mass pakes and even and cover three or. 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:12.120 Cover one and we just play ball. 0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:14.880 And I mean here got to go offense too, I 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:18.040 mean yeah, so it's like you can. You don't got 0:15:18.160 --> 0:15:19.960 to get the sack, you know, you don't have to 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:22.400 get the TfL. You just make them, let them mess up. 0:15:22.400 --> 0:15:24.240 They're gonna mess up, you know what I mean. Make 0:15:24.280 --> 0:15:26.040 them go eighty yards. You don't make them go two 0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:29.520 plays eighty yards. So it's like you gotta make them 0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:32.520 try not a handoff and he's gone. 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:35.080 Let's get our first break in here when we come back. 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:37.280 Let's talk about some key Cowboy players here. 0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:40.840 Dak Prescott catch a lot of heat today, Michael Parsons 0:15:40.880 --> 0:15:44.680 catch some heat today, Mazzie Smith. People are disappointed in 0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:46.520 the d line. Let's dive into some of the players 0:15:46.520 --> 0:15:49.480 here with Anthony Hitchins our special guests. Super Bowl Champion 0:15:49.480 --> 0:15:52.800 four Dallas Cowboys got Barry Churches, the Toledo Rocket. 0:15:52.800 --> 0:15:55.040 Hec Ma Harrison Emo gotta win on Friday night. 0:15:55.160 --> 0:16:01.720 You see what Toledo did to the SEC right jump saying, 0:16:05.720 --> 0:16:07.800 I don't know, I don't know. Y'all see what it is. 0:16:08.680 --> 0:16:10.640 They tore up Mississippi State. 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:12.560 Up that chick? 0:16:12.760 --> 0:16:13.160 Was that check? 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:15.320 Y'all give the game one point two. I want to 0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:18.080 go down there to get the beat down. 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:20.120 I mean, my boys on the stad of Mississippi State. 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:23.880 I hate to see it. I might have to pay 0:16:23.880 --> 0:16:30.440 my dudes. Now there it is. Yeah, that's it, that's true. 0:16:30.440 --> 0:16:31.480 I'm good for the next couple years. 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:34.480 Em I got it done. No door text, it didn't. 0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:38.960 Champ wore chaming wars do two picks in ten seconds 0:16:38.960 --> 0:16:39.840 and one of was a pick. 0:16:39.760 --> 0:16:44.120 Six, said god, I would do anything I was yes 0:16:45.200 --> 0:16:48.360 last week. Disappointed me. Man the Iowa State game, that's 0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:51.240 the big one that's right to that trophy. 0:16:51.280 --> 0:16:54.040 Boy came back and took it. Man came back and 0:16:54.120 --> 0:16:54.760 took it there. 0:16:55.760 --> 0:16:58.000 That Yeah, this is run across the field. 0:16:58.040 --> 0:17:02.280 It's just like the words feeling ever, the whole team 0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:03.640 just spreading towards your. 0:17:03.600 --> 0:17:06.639 Sideline to grab that on your side, we take that. 0:17:06.720 --> 0:17:09.800 Who everyone whoever wins it gets it on a sideline 0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:12.520 for the whole game. So it's like you win and 0:17:12.560 --> 0:17:14.000 you keep it, you just keep it. But the other 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:15.639 team they beat you, they run all the way across 0:17:15.640 --> 0:17:17.720 the field. Take it off your sideline, take it back 0:17:17.760 --> 0:17:21.720 to the cat's getting bumped on the way, still standing 0:17:21.720 --> 0:17:26.160 in a way, give them a little Chubu. 0:17:24.720 --> 0:17:27.880 Excuse in the way. 0:17:28.720 --> 0:17:29.879 But I would beat Troy. 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:34.399 Yeah, thirty eight twenty one there it is. 0:17:34.480 --> 0:17:37.000 Yeah, glad they got that twenty that's an issue right there. 0:17:36.800 --> 0:17:38.440 They're two and one. 0:17:39.000 --> 0:17:41.119