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Speaker 1: He is Drinks Chants, motherfucking podcast. Man, he's a legendary

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Speaker 1: queen's rapper. He ain't agreed. That's your boy in O

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Speaker 1: R E. He's a Miami hip hop pioneer.

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Speaker 2: What up, It's d J E f N.

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Speaker 1: Together they drink it up with some of the biggest players,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And the most professional, unprofessional

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Speaker 1: podcast and your number one source for drunk drinks Chans

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Speaker 1: Mo day is New Year's CST.

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Speaker 2: It's time for drink Champs.

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Speaker 1: Drink up, mother, would it gonna be hopinges with? This

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Speaker 1: is your boy in O R E. What Up?

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Speaker 2: It's DJ E f N And this.

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Speaker 1: Is drink Champs. Happy hour makes now.

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Speaker 3: Now when we talk about this brother right here, we

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Speaker 3: talk about icon. We talk about a legend. This is

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Speaker 3: has had three or four or five careers.

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Speaker 1: It was a part of one of the most legendary

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Speaker 1: groups of all times.

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Speaker 3: Classic album after classic album, then he went on for

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Speaker 3: his own career, classic after classic. At the classic then

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Speaker 3: he can turn off his producer hat and produce the

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Speaker 3: ship out of you and had you sounding right on

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Speaker 3: the streets. The people are still sampling him and his being.

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Speaker 3: My checks are crazy to this day to this day.

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Speaker 3: In case you don't know who we're talking about, we

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Speaker 3: talking about the one only we was on one of

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Speaker 3: the most one of my favorite flights that was legendary,

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Speaker 3: like it was rock excuse me, Big Daddy came to

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Speaker 3: the left y'ah ruh in front of you.

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Speaker 1: Me and you Red Man.

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Speaker 2: Should have had. That was a real.

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Speaker 3: Version of soul plane like in my opinion, Leo called

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Speaker 3: me like, how do you like the plane?

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Speaker 2: The plane is the hotel.

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Speaker 4: That's people was. They thought we was really like on

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Speaker 4: something crazy, like what are you on? Everybody can asked me.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, it's a plane. But again it was big

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Speaker 4: though what I'm saying so, but slick Wick was in.

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Speaker 1: The back slick house.

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Speaker 2: Let's be clear. Slickick bullies us.

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Speaker 1: All.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he came in there and he cleaned.

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Speaker 3: His bed like like a foul, like like like.

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Speaker 1: You in jail, like you walk in jail.

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Speaker 3: You're like this man, Peter, And nobody said no, this

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Speaker 3: sick Everybody, like.

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Speaker 4: I told you, he's from London, which is also raalty.

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Speaker 4: So his eyes from the beginning, we all the crumbs

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Speaker 4: ship here, He's like crumbs.

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Speaker 2: So the talking was minimum.

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Speaker 4: It was worse when he was younger, like no type

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Speaker 4: of vision, like not looking whatever. Because again, the coolest

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Speaker 4: nigga you ever. You know, Mitch Slipper one of my

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Speaker 4: favorite albums, know what I'm saying when you listen to

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Speaker 4: the records like that. But Rick's mentality was like that,

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Speaker 4: He's way friendlier now but then not really packed the weapon.

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Speaker 3: Stories about Slipper around. Yeah, did you see him now?

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Speaker 3: He's like cool, calm. I feel like he always has

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Speaker 3: a cane in his hand.

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Speaker 4: He's just He's just one of those. But you're right,

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Speaker 4: you see, he had the whole back of the the

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Speaker 4: whole back of the plane.

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Speaker 3: He did share what But Redman was on the camera.

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Speaker 3: I'm sitting back and I'm looking at these pictures and

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Speaker 3: I'm like, these shits are really really dope. You think

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Speaker 3: from the experience of us being in front of the

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Speaker 3: camera's easy for us to turn over and flip like that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe I think that. Reggie Listen, when I first

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Speaker 4: met him, When I first met him, he was always

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Speaker 4: a person where remember being an apartment with sunglasses on

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Speaker 4: when I first when Redmen first came here in a

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Speaker 4: yellow suit, yellowed two pieces, some shades Okay, I'm like, yo,

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Speaker 4: the two piece ill like too, like the the you know,

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Speaker 4: the jacket with the pants but yellow though you know,

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Speaker 4: the Iller ship though crazy. But Ressie was always always

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Speaker 4: like a person that even now with technology, whatever the

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Speaker 4: had it, he bought his mind whatever he was so

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Speaker 4: whatever he put his mind to, he can do it.

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Speaker 4: So I wasn't even shocked about him doing cameras and

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Speaker 4: So I wasn't shocked by it, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: And that's the part that's really ill though to the

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Speaker 4: sky driving part, the sky diving which which we asked

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Speaker 4: him and he says, like the freedom that he gets,

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Speaker 4: which is crazy because is if you know, to jump

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Speaker 4: they hold now it's just him rocket the freedom that

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Speaker 4: he got to do that because Dougie Fresh asked him

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Speaker 4: like is it a fifty to fifty chance? You know

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Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like you know, are you gonna make it?

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. But you see, he sees

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Speaker 4: soulas and that whole ship.

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Speaker 2: The older red man gets kind of whiter.

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Speaker 3: He's becomes become a white guy.

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Speaker 5: You're crazy about that, yo, But you know what, when

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Speaker 5: you speak to him, his mind is just another thing

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Speaker 5: that whatever he found, he found something else, you know

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Speaker 5: what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Like I said, I don't.

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Speaker 4: Know what type of piece that he got, but he

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Speaker 4: found it, right, So I you know, people look for that.

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Speaker 3: But let's talk about why we was all on that

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Speaker 3: plane anyway. Uh, Leo kom Yes, who has been a.

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Speaker 2: Great I was a great interview with Leo Cohmen, Oh.

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Speaker 3: That's my man. But he's been a great guy to me. Right,

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Speaker 3: But I want to address something, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, Dame Dash.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to say it's picking on him. Dame

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Speaker 3: Dash has an issue with right. Right. I chose not

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Speaker 3: I wanted to keep it possible, right, But you know,

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Speaker 3: it's something you can't avoid. Like, I don't look at

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Speaker 3: Leo as a coach of not me personal personally. He's

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Speaker 3: he's personally came to me and made me a better artist.

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Speaker 3: He told me I had a little bit more money,

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Speaker 3: and he said, if you stick with me, I'm going

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Speaker 3: to give you a career.

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Speaker 2: So I stuck with Leo, and I got a career.

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Speaker 1: I had a career.

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Speaker 3: But Dame famously calls him a coach of WoT do

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Speaker 3: you think he's is that such thing?

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Speaker 1: Can you be that when you off the culture?

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Speaker 4: One thing that I know about Leo Cohen is the

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Speaker 2: That he managed run.

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Speaker 4: He managed Russian management, but he managed running him. See

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Speaker 4: first happened. So when rush management there, he's there from

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Speaker 4: the beginning. That's the part. It's kind of get confusing

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Speaker 4: when you hear it. See, Dame had a different experience

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Speaker 4: with him, right, because Dame is powerful. Don't think a

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Speaker 4: rocketfeller didn't really need them except for distribution. Right, So

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Speaker 4: when when start taking credit, that's when I think it

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Speaker 4: got ugly. But I'm like, you know, to Leo Kellen,

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Speaker 4: he helped me. You know again, he was the person

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Speaker 4: that showed me what it was and and but again

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Speaker 4: you can't take the hip hop from him. I watched him.

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Speaker 4: I watched him be like that shit swack. That's not

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Speaker 4: that's not fly, it's not dope like to like not

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Speaker 4: you how you know this ship? So around Russell. That's

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Speaker 4: why Russell was the man in the back. Leo was

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Speaker 4: the up front. You can't be the up front of

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Speaker 4: you on those ship. But for him to be like

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Speaker 4: that ship is horrible. I don't know what that shit is.

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Speaker 4: Get that bull shit out of it. And that's how

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Speaker 4: he how he was no hesitation, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: So we did coss Before I had coss Over, I

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Speaker 4: had the last the fourth album done right Gold think

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Speaker 4: I had did with it Dad. It was number one

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Speaker 4: the whole nine. So we had the song on the

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Speaker 4: fourth album called don't play Me play the next Man,

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Speaker 4: trying to do a course over part I mean go

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Speaker 4: to ther part two. Him and Russell. If he dropped

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Speaker 4: that record, your career was sobo. I never so imagine this.

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Speaker 4: So I'm like me and parais Is amped on the record.

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Speaker 4: So when I was in La, when I got the

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Speaker 4: tip of Silvers cassette tape, you hear b will tell

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Speaker 4: bring the cassette, I said, Cube, I got some shit

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Speaker 4: called type of Sills. I want you to listened to it.

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Speaker 4: So I brung it to Cube, by some but another

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Speaker 4: story though. But Roger Trautman had just came out, so

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Speaker 4: I took his new album and I went through it wow,

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Speaker 4: and then I heard whatever you want. I heard it, so.

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Speaker 2: I went home and sampled it.

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Speaker 4: So then I went back to them and they said

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Speaker 2: And then the night after that.

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Speaker 4: Wesed in the studio all of us and I played

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Speaker 4: the head Banger beat and that's when Reggie was like negros.

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Speaker 4: We started wilding out. I started doing the honest ship

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Speaker 4: you know. That wasn't really our style with the with

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Speaker 4: the you know behind it that was that was us.

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Speaker 4: But again it felt like the record. I made the

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Speaker 4: record for Cube. I never got it to him. Head

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Speaker 4: bang yes, head bang ye m hm. That would have

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Speaker 4: been after America's most wanting yes right because because what happened, No,

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Speaker 4: you can, because.

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Speaker 1: What happened was there. I could hear them.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, the hook wasn't.

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Speaker 4: Just the beat was loud, like if it sounds like

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Speaker 4: some Lynch exactly Lynch mob also too, with keep hang

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Speaker 4: shotting them, I felt like, you know, something like loud

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Speaker 4: I made that for him. I never got it to him.

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Speaker 4: So the last two songs, Course Over and Headbang was

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Speaker 4: the last two songs that was made on that, Course

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Speaker 4: on on that, But it's never personal.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's crazy. I'm bouncing around a little bit.

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Speaker 4: You go ahead.

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Speaker 3: Did you ever get caught up in the East Coast

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Speaker 3: West Coast? Because I remember listening to our record with

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Speaker 3: you and Too Short? Remember too Short actually saying that?

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Speaker 3: He says, No, that's coach West Coast stuff to the

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Speaker 3: East Coast, West Coast stuff.

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Speaker 2: Have you ever got caught in him?

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Speaker 4: And I know, I'll tell you what. Yeah, your Puerto

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Speaker 4: Ricans that came out of fixedling. Sometimes you nigga niggas

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Speaker 4: porty vecan like, Yo, what's up?

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Speaker 1: Nigga?

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Speaker 4: NI say hold on, nigga, the too Short he wrung

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Speaker 4: it to me, like, yo, you know why this is

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Speaker 4: going on?

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Speaker 2: Me and you're the only one that's doing this.

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Speaker 4: I didn't even peep that while the world was was

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Speaker 4: going what they was doing, Me and Short was just

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Speaker 4: friends because we're in a landa so weren't you know

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Speaker 4: what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: We in Georgia, New York guys, right.

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Speaker 1: West coast.

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Speaker 2: We just enjoying Georgia.

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Speaker 4: Not realizing what's going on with that, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 4: we know, but we ain't tripping on that because we

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Speaker 4: another whole place.

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Speaker 3: I remember at one point death Jam would not allow

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Speaker 3: us to wear white shirts.

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, to tell them.

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Speaker 3: Because I think that was like trying to be neutral.

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Speaker 3: Because you know they you know, I get inducted into

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Speaker 4: But yeah, no, but that for real, that people got

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Speaker 3: So how did you get Marvin gated clear?

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Speaker 4: That said let's let's stop because you be at crime

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Speaker 3: How did you get Marvin Gaye to clear the sample?

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Speaker 3: Because Wuma has it is if you get Marvin Gaye's

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Speaker 2: I was number one in Miami.

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Speaker 4: You know when when that spring break the May twenty eight,

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Speaker 2: That stuck me up like big time dame too. They

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Speaker 4: But but Marvin Gaye as state, I met White, the wife,

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Speaker 2: B had something to do with it.

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Speaker 4: Eric had short arms ship gage lord. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: He made fifty thousand dollars up of that too.

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Speaker 4: Crazy right, I'm like, whatever we got to do with

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Speaker 4: We had so Jimmy I Bean had that movie. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it was where that can happen. That's what Daddy DeVito

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Speaker 4: to implement that whatever could, for Clive to sign me.

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Speaker 4: So we had to wait. But it's again, you know,

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Speaker 4: Yes, because again, but but nod had told Tim Matola

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Speaker 4: So once we told that to Clive, Clive was like, Okay,

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Speaker 4: I get four million dollars. And then Clive said, I'm

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Speaker 2: Fifty, So not only four million dollars, but we're gonna

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Speaker 4: The only one straight partnership with that partnership, not hy cleft,

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Speaker 4: Now your levee no to me because again he does

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Speaker 4: he again they found out though I don't know why,

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Speaker 4: you know, in the day you like me like, I

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Speaker 3: We got to go back to that that's going around.

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Speaker 4: I'm saying like yo, because I'm like, why you you

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Speaker 4: know what I'm saying that, I don't understand what's making

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Speaker 4: on when you hold up nigga, but that was that

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Speaker 4: was a label deal, right, or imprint deal or just

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Speaker 4: it wasn't that it wasn't my regular production. Like with

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Speaker 4: That means when he made records sold, I made money.

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Speaker 1: But for you as an artist, yes, oh, it wasn't

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Speaker 4: This was when I got music solo right, Okay, okay,

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Speaker 2: This nigga was I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Why, but if you had a.

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Speaker 2: A beat maker your producer.

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Speaker 4: Really the reason why is because if you know, E

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Speaker 4: The next tour was LJ. Slick Rick came epm D Legends.

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Speaker 4: Dosa is one Reggie e pm D K solo, So

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Speaker 4: now we're doing that. So that came with the with

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Speaker 4: the whole ship, you got to tour, but that wasn't

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Speaker 4: my thing, like the road wasn't really you know, something

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Speaker 4: I like to do. That's why when you see me

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Speaker 4: now my whole solo career, I ain't tour like I didn't.

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Speaker 4: I made money off the production production, you know what

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Speaker 4: I'm saying. So even now EPMD, we probably did like

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Speaker 4: you know, ten shows a year, eleven shows a year.

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Speaker 4: I'm the only one in one of my my colleagues

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Speaker 4: who we don't do like you got Caine to do ninety,

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Speaker 4: Dougie do two hundred and something, God rest of death.

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Speaker 4: Bismal Key was one eighty. And this money to be

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Speaker 4: made there too. But before I leave my sofa, no

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Speaker 4: my college, I want. I need thirty down dollars. So

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Speaker 4: if you can do that, then I might even make

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Speaker 4: a suggestion to go do it, you know, if if

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Speaker 4: I if you want.

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Speaker 3: Me to go do that.

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Speaker 2: But other than that, though, I'm not coming off my sofa.

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Speaker 4: Because again it's not beneficial to me because I'm already

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of words tear on the body too

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Speaker 4: See what met the man said when he was on here,

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Speaker 4: when he said about overseas, he said whatever like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how I felt too.

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Speaker 3: It's not easy. I can't say this artist's name. But

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Speaker 3: a face like you know one of them?

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Speaker 2: Oh like, and I can.

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Speaker 3: Tell like he had he had bills to pay, like

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Speaker 4: It's not for everybody. That's the majority, though it's not.

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Speaker 4: You think it's the majority that's the majority. The majority.

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Speaker 4: Aw not everybody's a showmanship. Like I said, came like it. No, no, no, no,

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Speaker 4: hundred shows a million dollars. I don't know a doctor,

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Speaker 4: a lawyer, no, no surgeent, nobody. So don't you ever

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Speaker 4: look at one of us and be like, yo, numbers

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Speaker 4: don't lie.

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Speaker 3: You don't.

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Speaker 4: Don't ever look at one of them and be like,

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Speaker 4: I wonder what they're doing now, No, nigga, at the minimum,

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Speaker 4: I'm only giving the minimum of what they make. It

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Speaker 4: is eight hundred grand. So this is how you look

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Speaker 4: at Caine, Rock, Cam Dougie. Those people are the ones

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Speaker 1: Basis, I don't know they got a tour right now?

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Speaker 1: Piece of easy rock. Oh now that that nineties tour

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Speaker 1: MC breathe that whole Excuse me that it makes bread.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what they make it. But that's why

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Speaker 4: get that judge or are you judging that? And I

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Speaker 4: I was at bottom and selling over seventy million records.

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Speaker 1: That means.

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Speaker 4: Whatever albums that was out, I was on them, right,

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Speaker 4: so you can. And then my publishing, I own it.

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Speaker 4: That's why I tell the story about too about young kids,

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Speaker 4: about having the publishing, that how important it is to

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Speaker 4: we gotta name them. That that was in here fighting.

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00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

440
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 4: Just for metro booming and the weekend sampling you a

441
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,480
Speaker 4: customer for I don't want to know overg and I

442
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:50,160
Speaker 4: get four percent in that record, right, I bring home

443
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,399
Speaker 4: two hundred and forty thousand dollars every four months. That's

444
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:57,639
Speaker 4: passive incomfort one, not from the whole only four percent.

445
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 4: I'most about one record, it right, And there's no cappening. This,

446
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 4: This is how this ship works. So so when people

447
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,199
Speaker 4: look at certain things and see people out there, especially

448
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 4: people with the publishing that ship can feature, you'll.

449
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:11,920
Speaker 2: Know when it's gonna come.

450
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 4: But every time I look around, But no, friend, Big Tank,

451
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 4: he's the one that do all the picty ship power.

452
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,680
Speaker 4: You know, you know, being up the whole nine ship,

453
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:24,119
Speaker 4: stay on there, you know you It just comes when you,

454
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 4: when you're able to have it. And I sput it

455
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:31,359
Speaker 4: with parish wow wow because the EP and d stuff.

456
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, is there a reason why you decided when

457
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 1: he said producer, you said beat maker instead of going along.

458
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:42,719
Speaker 2: I am not one of them.

459
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 1: Oat maker, don't know what happened.

460
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 4: And the beat maker right, A producer tells you that

461
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,119
Speaker 4: beat is dope, and that beats not for you. That

462
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,160
Speaker 4: paragraph is dope, but it should go third. That chorus

463
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 4: is ill, but it does as those paragraphs. Put that

464
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 4: second verse first, put that one third. I got to

465
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:08,919
Speaker 4: create the record. A producer creates the record for the artists.

466
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 4: So I never claimed to be the best beat maker.

467
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 4: I know how to make a record. So I'm not

468
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 4: in that category of niggas saying yo, the nigga I

469
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 4: ain't never claimed to be that.

470
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 2: I know how to make a song.

471
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 1: Though, right, Christy Jones a't gonna say he's a beat maker, right.

472
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,400
Speaker 4: I don't know where that came from. I must sow

473
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 4: must to happen. You did something, blaze, you said, just blaze. Okay,

474
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:37,360
Speaker 4: this is for React. That beat went around had to beat.

475
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,639
Speaker 1: This is a rumor I was supposed to be on React.

476
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,919
Speaker 1: Is that a rum yes, not a room, that's yo.

477
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 2: So because it fit you.

478
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 4: What happened was we couldn't I really couldn't find nobody

479
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 4: to be able to understand where I was coming from.

480
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 4: Brether Meth had to be. But since since that that

481
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 4: lady was saying the sample, what do you say on

482
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 4: top of that? So my ship was like whatever she

483
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 4: said that, I'm that. So that's what what made it

484
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 4: able to be a record, because I found a way

485
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:16,439
Speaker 4: to use it. They all had to be. But again, Reggie,

486
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 4: I took an old verse of Reggie's like I kind

487
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 4: of like, you know, like devoted it gosh. And then

488
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 4: I played it for the label and I said, Reggie,

489
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 4: they like it whatever, So he did it over.

490
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 2: Wow, But but he wasn't there. I just made ith do.

491
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:34,120
Speaker 1: We ever find out what she was saying.

492
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 4: Somebody was saying that she was talking about, you know,

493
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 4: the rumors like she was talking about suicide, and you

494
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 4: know that's the rumors.

495
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 2: You know people they were trying to kill me out there.

496
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 2: So we never found out officially what she said.

497
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 4: Somebody, one of the somebody said something that she said.

498
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:52,639
Speaker 4: But that was one of the main things. She was

499
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 4: talking about, suicide.

500
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 3: Because when you perform it, do you let the crowd

501
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:56,360
Speaker 3: say that work?

502
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 4: Okay, they do that too, They do the whatever said

503
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 4: they do again at the end of the day. It

504
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,439
Speaker 4: was so crazy because me having Marvin Gaye and then

505
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 4: they then again You're looking like, okay, well damn, I'm

506
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,399
Speaker 4: this record is too big. I can't come behind that.

507
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,879
Speaker 4: But I was able to come right behind it with that.

508
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 4: That's the part too. Had his hands on me like,

509
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 4: oh shit, you give me another career, you know. So

510
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,120
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, so you know, again,

511
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 4: I think just blazed two because they was hot, right,

512
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 4: and I heard the rumors that that they was mad

513
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 4: that he gave me the beat. They was upset, Wow,

514
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:34,479
Speaker 4: because they give records away, you the beat. They can

515
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,199
Speaker 4: all say that. But you don't know if it's going

516
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 4: to be a hit because you had the record.

517
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 2: This happened to hit.

518
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 4: And now you're saying, okay, what sixty thousand that was

519
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 4: just places. That's the most money he ever got for

520
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:45,880
Speaker 4: a record in his life.

521
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 3: Wow.

522
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 1: And did he stay there?

523
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 2: No, that's he never got that no more, never again. Okay, gee, Louise, geez.

524
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 1: Did you did going back to the beginning of EPMD,

525
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 1: did you ever see yourself as a so orders from bag?

526
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: Then nah, this is listen. Man.

527
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 2: Parish was the one that.

528
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 4: Had experience because his brother was in the business, and

529
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 4: Paris was in a cool called the Rock Squad. He

530
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 4: just didn't rhyme. He was a DJ. But when he

531
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 4: heard when I went to his neighborhood, moved my grandmother,

532
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 4: I used, I was already had two rhymes. I had

533
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 4: the bunad Get story and I had Jane. So I

534
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 4: used to spit those for his friends and him. So

535
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 4: he was like, you know, one day we're gonna go

536
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,919
Speaker 4: to the studio. So I'm like, this can't be happening.

537
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like, you know, you don't kid,

538
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 4: you don't know. So he went to college because he

539
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 4: played football, So we skipped eighty five. Eighty six we

540
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,439
Speaker 4: kind of went in, but we skipped that too. Then

541
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 4: eighty seven we went in and made the first demo

542
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,399
Speaker 4: and that's when November of eighty seven, it's my Thing

543
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 4: and your customer came out. Now, you guys wasn't on

544
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 4: depth jam then, No, we was on teating back records

545
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 4: are independent sleep Yeah, first record, so team Bank Records,

546
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:06,679
Speaker 4: right man Tron. That was the group that they had.

547
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 4: And they had Joyce Simms, a lady that was you

548
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 4: know you oh my ole, they really do. You had

549
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 4: that the press was kind of crazy. And then they

550
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 4: signed Nicer Smooth and then they had Craig Matt with

551
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 4: the zoom zoom zoom. So again we they was moving,

552
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 4: you know. But but I walked in the in the

553
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 4: in the spot one day, I saw a new computers,

554
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 4: a new desks, new cars outside, and we broke figure.

555
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 4: I signed for fifteen hundred dollars. That means seven hundred

556
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 4: feet dollars for Paris, seven hundred dollars for me. But

557
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 4: I was I was a minor. So when Russell went

558
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 4: in for the audit, he was able to get it.

559
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 4: So and then because they was in an illegal contract

560
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 4: with you that too, and they were just robbing you know,

561
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 4: this wasn't right. So Russell came with it was like

562
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 4: one point six million dollars and after that was on

563
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 4: definitely by the whole third album is I'm mad Man

564
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 4: slaughter fucking you know the old type.

565
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 2: Of you know this, you know, angry titles.

566
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 4: You know, when you signed the Depth cham because of

567
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 4: what was going on with Seambag, you.

568
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 3: Know, and the rumor was like, which I didn't really

569
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 3: know to so recently the rumor or the rumor was like,

570
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 3: uh that you thought it was Parish at first because

571
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 3: he had the cars and he had the houses and

572
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 3: you didn't. Oh that's just as far as the e PMD.

573
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 3: How it got sour. Yeah, that was everybody.

574
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 4: I mean we watched it and everybody was saying, you know,

575
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 4: the neighborhood talking. Same with the EPMD Rock and Beef.

576
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 4: It's the neighborhood that talks, you know what I'm saying.

577
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 4: So at the end of the day, again, I wasn't

578
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 4: on my business, you know, That's what it boils down to.

579
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 4: You know, you I did think that that count Bow

580
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 4: and Bert had all of us everybody so but the

581
00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 4: end of the day, bird kind of helped me to right,

582
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 4: you know, after a while, like when I started seeing things,

583
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 4: I started learning ship too. But again, at the end

584
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 4: of the day, when you're young or you're thinking, is

585
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 4: the negative part, like you know, it's somebody getting me,

586
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.

587
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 3: So why do you think that's mentality? Like I got

588
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 3: drunk my first contract too. I got I think five

589
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 3: grand when the Avera Rex and the cowboy hat and

590
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 3: gor text books, I thought I was rich, so I was.

591
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: I went to the tunnel.

592
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 3: You couldn't tell me ship five grand magic? But but

593
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 3: why do you think And I'm gonna tell you something.

594
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 3: I knew my contract was shipped, right, but I was.

595
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 3: I was under the impression. I was like, yo, let

596
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 3: me just get into this game and I'm gonna make

597
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 3: it work. When when do that generation stop and say

598
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 3: fuck that. I'm gonna get a good contract first, not

599
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 3: get into this bad ship.

600
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 1: Because I listened to your.

601
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 2: Story and.

602
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 3: That was research and research and researching, and it was

603
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 3: like you learned the business. After that you kind of

604
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 3: got and I'm like, damn, that's that's fucking my story.

605
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 3: Like I had to learn publishing after I sold it,

606
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 3: You know what I mean. I had to learn about

607
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 3: points after I gave it away.

608
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: That everybody, you know what I mean.

609
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 3: What I'm saying is like your experience, from your experience.

610
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 3: I shouldn't have went through it. From my experience, the

611
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 3: next person shouldn't google.

612
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: When do we stop this ship? When do we tell

613
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 1: these artists that what they were?

614
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 4: This is what Kiss was just talking about the last interview.

615
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 4: I just heard him saying. He's saying that again, is

616
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 4: he said? Him signing the contract? These days it's like

617
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 4: for him Robin the bank. You know what I mean,

618
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 4: it's you know, it's just a stupid to do. At

619
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 4: the end of the day, you have to learn that

620
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 4: all of us who went through it and saw what

621
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 4: it was, why would you do that? But the fame

622
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 4: and that checked they dingle in front of you for

623
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 4: that to be sixty deals. It's hard for a kid

624
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 4: to be like what you say about points and all

625
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 4: that type of stuff that you know.

626
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 1: They which is coated all that stuff is complicing publishing.

627
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 1: They should learn they should teach a course before you

628
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: get to.

629
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 3: The merchandising all of that, like they control their merchandise.

630
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 4: That's the whole thing there too, which is crazy. The

631
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 4: major r is that you know about you haven't seen

632
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 4: a T shirt or nothing that they shows. They don't

633
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 4: own that part. And that's also all that money from

634
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 4: that three sixty is gone, So that's part was kind

635
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 4: of crazy for you to be at your own show

636
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 4: and your own concert and you got no merchandise.

637
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: Even owning your likeness.

638
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 4: That's what it's like right right then, and then.

639
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: In the language saying in perpetuity throughout the universe, like

640
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: these things are what's the crazy city?

641
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 3: It's so fucked up right now that they can they

642
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 3: can take your image and put you in a video

643
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 3: game that you don't even owe.

644
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was that's like.

645
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, like like at least when we did Depth

646
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 3: Jam Fight for the New York we had to actually

647
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 3: go in there.

648
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you're.

649
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:01,959
Speaker 3: So right now if you was just signed a three

650
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 3: sixty deal, your label can put you in Mortal Kombat

651
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 3: right seven and just had you there and you know what,

652
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 3: you had a good move on that.

653
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: Oh yeah I had it call Yeah it was dead

654
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 1: all nor yeah life Eric, I do it.

655
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 4: You know, the fucking the move was nice. I don't

656
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 4: know who he got though, but somebody the ship was crazy.

657
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: If there's anything probably positive of this generation of artists,

658
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 1: they do have more power to dictate the type of

659
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: deals because they're self sufficient in what they're doing, at

660
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: least on yes, creating their own.

661
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 2: Doing that revenue. If they're doing that there, if they're

662
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 2: doing that.

663
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 4: But the majority of them too, see all that money

664
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 4: they generated from from them shows, right, that's why they

665
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 4: so rich. Either they got they got the two million

666
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 4: dollars for the three sixty, but the shows that you

667
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 4: see they.

668
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 2: Torn like crazy.

669
00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 4: They out there in the arenas like early all is

670
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 4: the reasons all of them is in out there, you

671
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like, I don't know how many.

672
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 4: He's not a whole bunch, but they but they on them, right,

673
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 4: But they they that money that you see they got

674
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 4: is real. But I always tell them, I'm not hating

675
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 4: on you. Nobody's coming to watch you in the future.

676
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 3: Right.

677
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 4: And the scary part they don't understand that when they

678
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 4: hear it, that means that you see how we can

679
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 4: rock or the people from the seventies and sixties make

680
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 4: Jack's one hundred and thirty six years old. This is still.

681
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: You know.

682
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 4: You can perform the four hundred and forty million dollars

683
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 4: when you step on the on that stage for that

684
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 4: year that tour, meaning that he made records, that's going

685
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 4: to always be able to people for this show up.

686
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 4: So when when this error has to go to work,

687
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 4: how we can go to work if you want to

688
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:54,399
Speaker 4: go to work and you can go get some money

689
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 4: whatever they can because when I when I knew when

690
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 4: they or get forty and they're gonna be talking about

691
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 4: dick fuck suck pus. See whatever, it.

692
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 2: Won't match, right, it won't match. No longevity in that right,

693
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 2: it won't.

694
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 4: Match is no longer you won't. So I want to

695
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 4: figure out, how are you going to be able to

696
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 4: earn money? Nigga? If you didn't save or have some

697
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 4: type of situation, you won't be able to do what we.

698
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 1: Do past virality, past going viral.

699
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 4: Right, this is this quote, and this is what I'm

700
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:28,399
Speaker 4: saying is so fucking letho, and I wish they could

701
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 4: hear this, like the fact that when that time comes, right,

702
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 4: are you going to You're not going to be able

703
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 4: to work?

704
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 3: Right, It's real. You remember what I always say, like

705
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 3: That's why I love Europe because like you just said,

706
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 3: there's a time, well, you just can't book a show

707
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 3: in America, right, Europe don't get to see you like that.

708
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 2: Europe That's kind of saved my life. You know what

709
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 2: I'm saying.

710
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 3: I always say, I always say dudef Germany, he always

711
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,800
Speaker 3: last at me. But I was frequenting dudes in Germany.

712
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 3: I was like, fuck that they paying my quote. I'm

713
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 3: going That's how I learned about miles and all that.

714
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 3: I started sucking with the plane tickets because you can't

715
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 3: be paying that first cast flight and then and they

716
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 3: get it all in all, if it's all in so

717
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 3: I would use my points still get that first class

718
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 3: flight and you put me onto that.

719
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: But Europe, Europe, Europe, you know.

720
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 3: Part Russia at times, Japan they held me down, They

721
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 3: helped me down where I didn't have to like take

722
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 3: these little.

723
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:37,879
Speaker 1: Because you know that's how they start doing. You didn't

724
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 1: he go twenty.

725
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 3: Five, You want me at twenty five, and then you're

726
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 3: just like, yo, how you doing sh Let me let

727
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 3: me go, let me go, grab, let me grab that.

728
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: But Europe hold us down, and it almost feels.

729
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 4: Like they held this they still holding, They still still

730
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,439
Speaker 4: in Europe, getting ready. I see the resund there, said,

731
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 4: I just saw it fucking goes underd just alcoholic.

732
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 2: I've seen it right there out there.

733
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 3: Do you think hip hop lives in Europe more than

734
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 3: it lives in.

735
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 4: The well now it does, even though the new stuff

736
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 4: did infiltrate. I never thought it was going to infistrate.

737
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:16,320
Speaker 4: But again, kids, come now, you know whatever, whatever you know,

738
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 4: let me flash back to you, because you flashed back

739
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 4: a while ago, but you got a mate back outside.

740
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 2: So I don't know what.

741
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 4: Year you're talking about. You know what I'm saying, What

742
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 4: year was that overseas? Because that's a long time.

743
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 2: That was in the early two thousands, early two thousands.

744
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 3: This is this is like right before we do, Right

745
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 3: before we did, I was what I called let me,

746
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,320
Speaker 3: I was what I call a hip hop purgatory. Like

747
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 3: I wasn't dead, but I damn sure it wasn't a lie.

748
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 3: Well like I was in that tough, tough space. And

749
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 3: you know, Joe was there with me, you know what

750
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 3: I mean. I had lunch with Joe yesterday, right and

751
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 3: he said something very interesting to me. You know, we

752
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 3: always say when we in the studio. This is this

753
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 3: is our best look, right, it's our best fight. So

754
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 3: you know, we all think like that. I don't give

755
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 3: a what you say. So Joe looks at me and goes,

756
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,760
Speaker 3: I think I'm making the best music of my life.

757
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,439
Speaker 3: And I somewhat laugh because I'm like, Nigga, you say

758
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 3: that every year, right, And he says to me, it's

759
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 3: because I don't have no pressure no more. And I

760
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 3: was like, and it's like, so what he's saying is

761
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 3: when it's no pressure to me, the record label standing

762
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 3: to me. To me, they are what is that ship

763
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:36,399
Speaker 3: schedule or whatever?

764
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: And you just make the music.

765
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 2: And I was like, holy shit, I had.

766
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 1: Never looked at it like and it goes against our

767
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 1: argument of indie versus major too, oh, because.

768
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 2: The major puts that pressure to Okay, good lue.

769
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 3: We always argue the verse. I said, I'm a major guy,

770
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 3: he's an indie guy. But does that take the offer

771
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 3: of you when you're in the studio and you're making

772
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 3: records and you're just like, yo, I'm doing it.

773
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 1: I'm doing it because of course.

774
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 3: It's gonna be eventually lucrative, but right now I'm just

775
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 3: gonna have some fun. I'm to go on.

776
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what my thing was annoying. It was

777
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 4: on my album too when I made Brunier. That was

778
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:20,439
Speaker 4: what my feeling was because I didn't have nobody telling

779
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 4: me about no radio record or what to make. I'm

780
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 4: doing it because I'm doing it for the culture and

781
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 4: people that want to hear hip hop. And when I

782
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:34,399
Speaker 4: did it that way, my colleague showed up. Now I've

783
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 4: talked about Yo, I wish I made that three hundred record,

784
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 4: you know, shocking them. Everybody was just snooping them. Was

785
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 4: just down the line saying, yo, did you get Eeric

786
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 4: Summon's album? So usually I would hear what the company

787
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 4: wanted to say. That's how we do. Sometimes they write,

788
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 4: sometimes we fall into it. It's been a couple of

789
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,320
Speaker 4: times where I made songs. No, I didn't want to

790
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 4: make them records, but I'll try to depress them to

791
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 4: get it. But they can go out there and do

792
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 4: the right thing. But again, when it's no pressure at

793
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,399
Speaker 4: this moment, That's why j just talking about that being

794
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 4: independent and being the controlled. Joe doesn't care what happens

795
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 4: because this is what he feels and he ain't worried

796
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:15,720
Speaker 4: about you know what somebody else is saying if cooland

797
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 4: Dre says dope or no, say it's dope, and I

798
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 4: think it's dope. I'm coming out with it, you know.

799
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 4: So that's how I think that a lot of us feel.

800
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 4: Who's independent?

801
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 1: Right?

802
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 4: You know?

803
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 1: Do you think a rapper ever, ever really retires.

804
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 4: Maybe for not making records, but as far as them

805
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 4: him doing this and still you know, writing rhymes and

806
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 4: still now, I think you're going to keep doing it.

807
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 2: But listen, okay, listen, you keep that to yourself.

808
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:50,359
Speaker 4: Because don't be busting niggas all that, because because because

809
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 4: I don't feel that way all that niggas that like

810
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 4: hip hop and like and like it's like Quincy Jones

811
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 4: at his age still loves loves this. You know people

812
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 4: who still loves this. I see Jermaine Dupre and see

813
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 4: Brian Michael Brian.

814
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 3: Pre socks right now, to take them guide right them

815
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 3: socks is crazy, you see, don't it's Louie.

816
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 1: No, I don't care. Those socks look like slave socks.

817
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 4: Okay, listen, but I went too far. Yeah, but we

818
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 4: still like doing it as far as the music is

819
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 4: being made. And then I think that the question you

820
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 4: ask is real because again, how many people to be

821
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:28,839
Speaker 4: tired and came back?

822
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,439
Speaker 3: Yes, like every now and then you see whole doing

823
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 3: Carcer pop up or something. He's been retired for twenty

824
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 3: years now. Uh, Joe said he's retired. He told me

825
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 3: he's in the studio.

826
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 4: You have to again, Yeah, think about one hundred two

827
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 4: thousand two kills me too, because again you're not doing

828
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 4: no runs, but you want to kill him Mike's album.

829
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 4: But that's the part that bugs out all of every

830
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 4: other you hear the sound.

831
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 1: So he did the Flu album. No, it's kind of hard.

832
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 4: For people to say but that he's still rhymed and

833
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 4: he's still righting the top level. But he comes and

834
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 4: does it, so you can't say you're not rhyming, like

835
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Like, so, so imagine if

836
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 4: you got something to say on that, you got something

837
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 4: to say. I'm just doing being biased because I wanted

838
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 4: to come out. You know what I'm saying. I want

839
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:21,879
Speaker 4: he got something to say. I think he got something

840
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 4: to say out there.

841
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 2: I can't help it. Like this was a while ago.

842
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 3: Well I'm in Carbone and I'm just sitting there and

843
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 3: I just start writing, just start writing. And no one

844
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 3: could read my handwriting. No one, not my wife, not

845
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 3: even my mom.

846
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 1: You're not handwriting, bro, I mean though, still you just

847
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: went like this, Yeah, no one could read it, like

848
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:46,479
Speaker 1: put it together.

849
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,399
Speaker 3: The only person who read my mind word I've read

850
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,959
Speaker 3: my rhyme word for words that Kanye West.

851
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: I knew it from him so fast. He was like,

852
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: I looked, I said, holy ship. He spit it out,

853
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: said you wrote it?

854
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 2: You was like to write it.

855
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 3: It was creepy. I grab my phones, give me ship.

856
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 3: What are y'all in carbones? Okay, so you're Kanye what's

857
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 3: your relationship?

858
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 1: Yeah?

859
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 4: I mean, man, that's a good sea listen at the

860
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 4: end of the day. I never seen nobody excited about

861
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 4: music like that. A few people that I've been in

862
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 4: the lab with, you know, that's like feel the same

863
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 4: way when the beat come on, in the momentum, the

864
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 4: whole non same way. Because again, when I started with him,

865
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,399
Speaker 4: we was doing like a lot of hip hop music.

866
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 4: And there's a room out there saying Eric says that

867
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,439
Speaker 4: the album's coming. I never said nothing like that. I said,

868
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:51,879
Speaker 4: I was working on the album. We was doing hip

869
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 4: hop music. Pink Polo Kanye right. Well, the fact that

870
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 4: it was the beats and stuff, it was like, you know,

871
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 4: because again you come to get me. You know what

872
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 4: I'm going to get ready to make You know what

873
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 4: I'm saying. You come to get me, you know what

874
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 4: I'm saying. So, and we had a vibe, we were

875
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 4: the momentum was going crazy, and we had mad ideas

876
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 4: the whole down with or whatever. So but as far

877
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 4: as him and music, he don't need nobody. I just

878
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 4: heard consequence saying too, he don't get people to write

879
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 4: rhymes because he can't rhyme. Is the fact that maybe

880
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 4: somebody else might have something that might be illa or

881
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 4: your mind might not go there. People think that because

882
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 4: the people that are sitting there giving you ideas the

883
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 4: whole not meaning that you need.

884
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: To do it. He don't.

885
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 4: There was records that his man played me from twenty

886
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 4: thirteen that would shake this whole ground up, you know,

887
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 4: his production, whatever, his rhyme, all that shit his way out.

888
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 4: So I kind of was bugging out, like what are

889
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 4: we doing here? But I understand now because this is

890
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 4: what it is. It's the other idea that you might have.

891
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 4: So I did the whole lay thing. They went to Japan.

892
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 4: I didn't go, and then I went to Italy and

893
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 4: we was, you know, oh there that vibe was dope too.

894
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 4: When that's when I walked in, I saw Todd dallas

895
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 4: Sign and him and Dallas Sign had created something else,

896
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 4: you know that that I wasn't doing when I was there.

897
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 4: It wasn't mad, but still was you know, you don't

898
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 4: play with drums, so the whole time it's like, Yo,

899
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 4: make sure the drums is crazy whatever like that. Make

900
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 4: sure it's like that, you know. So I was trying

901
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 4: to do what I could do at that moment. But

902
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 4: in the beginning, we was making you know, you was

903
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:44,879
Speaker 4: part of Vulture's one.

904
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 2: There wasn't.

905
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 4: I don't know if that was the name, you would

906
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 4: make it with no name. This is the beginning. This

907
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 4: is you know, we're just trying to set the vibe

908
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 4: up and see what we get ready to make. But

909
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 4: we had something going, you know what I'm saying. But

910
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 4: I guess and I saw my couple of songs on

911
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 4: the list when I was in Italy, I saw two

912
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:05,839
Speaker 4: of my songs on there.

913
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 2: When it came to my song was known that But

914
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 2: how did.

915
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,839
Speaker 1: You guys How did that relationship for you to come

916
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 1: and work with him?

917
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 2: How did that start?

918
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 4: He called, He called, He called for me, He called again,

919
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 4: eighty eight keys, called Bernard again and told me, yo

920
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 4: that oh Kanye summons you.

921
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 3: Is how he said it.

922
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 2: That's where I heard it like that, So it was

923
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 2: like crumbs.

924
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 4: Well, but again it was the experience that I, you know,

925
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 4: being around again, the antics, all that stuff that people.

926
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 4: I know that fact that when it came down to

927
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 4: the music, this motherfucker is what you know of a

928
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 4: pure genius or he needs no one right, but he

929
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 4: just chooses to do that. You like to collaborate exactly

930
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 4: the ideas and see what you see where your mind

931
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 4: is at. Same with Dre, though, because yeah, you did

932
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 4: that too, Because Dre. When I first got to Dre's

933
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 4: I did and one night he did three records of

934
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 4: mine this rhyme, one after the other.

935
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, damn this nigga.

936
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 4: Dre just did three songs back to back by two

937
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 4: thirty three in the morning. I come back. The next

938
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 4: two days, he we do another record. But you call Snooping,

939
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 4: So Snoop is doing the jay. I'm like, damn, this

940
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 4: is four songs. Now full of your production. Right the

941
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 4: next couple of days, he's doing this song, so I

942
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 4: rhyme on that. Oh my god, nobody's never going to

943
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 4: hear this is.

944
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 1: It's not you don't think it's a part of this

945
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 1: joint Snoop drap project.

946
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 4: Not me and his no no, And when I mean,

947
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 4: I can't even tell you the record.

948
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 1: This is is how many records somebody got to kidnap Dre.

949
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 3: I'm just somebody got to kidnap him and let him

950
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 3: hear his own ship. But yo, man, this song was

951
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 3: exciting and this belongs to the world in the fact

952
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 3: of yours. That the the nw A e pm D thing,

953
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 3: the Eric Simons Dre thing like it would have been

954
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 3: something to talk about. It's just like when the ship

955
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 3: went viral without I was there, you know. But this

956
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 3: record was fantastic. You take us back the epmdnw A thing.

957
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 2: That's what people saw us as.

958
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 4: It was always a comparison, not rivals, though not just

959
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 4: the caparison of of what we did and the music

960
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 4: they made was almost the same.

961
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 1: Because they wasn't you was working with y'all were doing

962
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 1: funk before them the same time, same time.

963
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was because when you go back to easy,

964
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 4: he was already on Parliament and I was doing the same,

965
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 4: doing that too, would doing it right, well exactly, but

966
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 4: again not knowing though, you know what I'm saying. But

967
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 4: when you go back you can hear the similarities. So

968
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 4: it's very close. Yeah, well no, you're saying, it's the

969
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 4: same time, yes, right, So I can't really say who

970
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 4: had what? You know, I know that in nineteen eighty seven,

971
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 4: it's my thing. You A customer came out cubas me

972
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 4: and Cuba was tight. That's why you hear Cuban when

973
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 4: he's speaking about me too. I used to he used to,

974
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,320
Speaker 4: you know, I used to pick him up, take him around.

975
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

976
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 4: It's crazy because again he's to check in with you.

977
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 4: He can't you know. Cube came to records. Can't make

978
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 4: it up. Cube came to my house one time, right Atlanta,

979
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 4: New York, New York. Okay, I ain't have no ac

980
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 4: in my new home. I just got it.

981
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 3: He got to Jerry Crow, Jerry Curl, Jerry Kruk, continue

982
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 3: the a C Jerry Carroll take it him there.

983
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 4: He goes to the backyard, jumps in the pool, fully

984
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 4: clothed because he was hot.

985
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 1: He was hot.

986
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 4: What happens to the to the Jerry curR I'm saying,

987
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 4: I'm telling you what figureways now, I ain't look at

988
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:58,720
Speaker 4: all that the fact that he jumped in the pool

989
00:49:58,840 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 4: fully clothed.

990
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 2: Okay, what happens after that?

991
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 4: Back because we were shooting the sat na's commercial winding?

992
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 4: Oh okay, so you know he just again came over.

993
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:16,320
Speaker 4: But he must have been hot because you know, you know,

994
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 4: when you see a pool looking quenching the Knights to

995
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:20,399
Speaker 4: blue like, it makes you you know what I'm saying,

996
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 4: when you see it. So that's he jumped in.

997
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 1: What kind of money is you getting back then you

998
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 1: had a pool? Yeah?

999
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 2: Your money?

1000
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 4: Fact that Jesus nineteen ninety one, that's.

1001
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 3: That long money, yo, that's that longevity. You gotta understand.

1002
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 4: Though we was we didn't know he was producers, So

1003
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 4: don't forget we making the records. We don't know that

1004
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 4: we produce this. So again we already a step aheaded game.

1005
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,320
Speaker 4: So so whatever royalties that you was getting over the

1006
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 4: advanceage you was getting, it was still more than somebody

1007
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 4: who was just doing this, you.

1008
00:50:58,280 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying.

1009
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,240
Speaker 2: So but how did you not know you were producers already?

1010
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 4: I thought that the records you heard, the people made them.

1011
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 1: That they were already making their own records.

1012
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,280
Speaker 4: Everybody who I heard, I thought they made their records.

1013
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 4: So me and Paris went in and did what we

1014
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 4: thought everybody did not knowing, well, then god, you didn't know.

1015
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 4: And then Will Smith was like, stop the show on

1016
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 4: stage one night and said, yo, e pmgs number one

1017
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 4: and Billboard, we'll know what Billboard was neither never forget

1018
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 4: we children. He's like number one in Billboard?

1019
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 3: What is that?

1020
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 6: You know?

1021
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 4: Afterwards Leo told me, oh, yeah, this is the Billboard charts.

1022
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 2: They're number one.

1023
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:36,840
Speaker 6: You know.

1024
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 2: So Will been fucking up the stage for a long time.

1025
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:48,320
Speaker 4: Will yeah, said Will was already run DMC talk. But

1026
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 4: the most the seller is fresh Prince theys two point

1027
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 4: five million records. So they but they just don't understand

1028
00:51:56,920 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 4: that's it. Will used to be backstage saying, yo, I'm

1029
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 4: about to be famous. It's like you're already famous. He

1030
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 4: was talking about being on TV way before it happened. Wow,

1031
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,800
Speaker 4: this nigga's so strong, you know. Me, I'm about fifty

1032
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 4: pounds bigger now. But I was still two hundred. Then

1033
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 4: Nigga picked me up and turned me upside down at eighteen.

1034
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 4: At eighteen, all right, I never and I'm like, I'm like,

1035
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 4: first of all, I'm kind of confused, but why are

1036
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 4: you doing this? That's what we were doing it because

1037
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 4: because we're boy you know. But for some reason that

1038
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 4: must something must have happened. And Nigga just you know whatever,

1039
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 4: like it was nothing snatched me whatever eighteen.

1040
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 2: Have you ever been starstruck?

1041
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 4: Jewish serving Julius Irvy doctor J I saw him at

1042
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 4: the Cleveland All Star Awards back in ninety five or

1043
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:00,840
Speaker 4: whatever like that, and I shook a hand, but nothing was.

1044
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 4: I couldn't speak, nothing came out because my whole time,

1045
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 4: all I was thinking about when I was a kid

1046
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 4: was was Irving. When I play basketball, when I shoot

1047
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 4: up like Irving all the time. My family number is

1048
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 4: number six, my lucky number. To me, it's number six.

1049
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,359
Speaker 3: The time when you just did like that, you look

1050
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 3: like you you can't play ball at all. Okay, now

1051
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 3: that's the myth. You just did that, you know, embarrassed

1052
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 3: a little bit.

1053
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 4: My boys in there they're telling you.

1054
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 1: That's not.

1055
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 2: Might not any time when you want to shoot. Yeah

1056
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:37,320
Speaker 2: at this age.

1057
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 3: Okay, we got the weekend. We got to have a

1058
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:44,280
Speaker 3: back game and we have a handball. Nice and handball.

1059
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 3: That's awesome, water we can side awesome.

1060
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 2: You just selling the truth.

1061
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:48,959
Speaker 4: He was hot and ship.

1062
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 3: You sid trying to.

1063
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 1: Make a handball off national sport in the Olympics.

1064
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 4: I seen your golf outfit, Nigga with the strikes, with

1065
00:53:56,800 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 4: the fucking I seen you play golf. I don't play golf.

1066
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 4: You have to go off outfit nigga with not the

1067
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 4: handball outfit. Okay, we'll make.

1068
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm trying to bring handball back. Is the time, Thomas,

1069
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 3: let's do it. Okay, you want to play him in

1070
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 3: the game.

1071
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 4: You're not asking enough question because again you're gonna edd

1072
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 4: this for two hours.

1073
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 1: You don't.

1074
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 4: Okay, so what so where's the stuff that I read

1075
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 4: the drama that you can drama drama? No, you're not

1076
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 4: acting the whole you know, you ask everything.

1077
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 1: We this is this is just the middle of the

1078
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 1: we get this is the part. This is everybody. Then

1079
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 1: we go off. By the way, I love this, but

1080
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:42,720
Speaker 1: you gotta pick a designated drinker for yourself.

1081
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 4: Nobody drinks.

1082
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can pick Sonny D.

1083
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:47,839
Speaker 1: B T right here.

1084
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 4: Okay, Sonny, you got it.

1085
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 2: Okay, he got a E P M D shirt on. Hey, Sonny,

1086
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 2: you know what.

1087
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 4: Time is right so so so if you go out

1088
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 4: there drunk right now? Oh yeah, he's gonna go my drunk.

1089
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 4: He's already drun two at two pm? Who's driving? Who's

1090
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:12,439
Speaker 4: driving you? Okay, he got it. He got a horse

1091
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 4: and carriage because it's two pms. Okay, yeah, so the

1092
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 4: little guys twelve and thirty, well, he's gonna be fucked up.

1093
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 2: The rules is this is the rules. We're gonna give

1094
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 2: you to two different things.

1095
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 1: I got from Yes, you say you picked one that,

1096
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 1: we're good if you say both or neither.

1097
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 2: Do you know that everybody named mother this show?

1098
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 3: You saw I got to argue. Someone on Twitter was mad, You're.

1099
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 1: Like, why nor we gotta keep saying the same start

1100
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 1: I said, he's.

1101
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:41,359
Speaker 2: Not talking to you, talking to the guests.

1102
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:46,319
Speaker 3: Yea, all right, this is a good one. You want

1103
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 3: this one, I'll take this.

1104
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 2: One now, I'm gonna do it.

1105
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 4: Okay, we're a drink at.

1106
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:50,799
Speaker 1: I'm get another one.

1107
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 2: Get my mama, Juan and uh the.

1108
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 1: Shots to him.

1109
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 2: Make sure you just you can't move in here.

1110
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,879
Speaker 1: That's alright ready, du Parker, d MX, how to get.

1111
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 3: Another drinks, DMX and if you got any stories.

1112
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, stop And this is the part where we

1113
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 2: get into things. You got it?

1114
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you know DMX and Solo, Oh that's right.

1115
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 1: Case his first record is no.

1116
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:22,439
Speaker 4: But as far as them jail together, so I don't

1117
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 4: know who had spellbound first. I know Solo was nice

1118
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 4: as fuck, but DMX for him to argue.

1119
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 1: Like that for twenty years, to be like, yo, I

1120
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 1: did it.

1121
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 4: Like you niggas A're gonna argue like that the whole time.

1122
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 4: But again, either way, we don't know. We don't know

1123
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 4: to prove it. But DMX was he was adam adam

1124
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 4: in about his so too. But Solo was so dope

1125
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 4: at DMX.

1126
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 2: And he didn't do it.

1127
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:47,919
Speaker 4: He need to because X is so nice. He said,

1128
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 4: fuck it, I't got to do that ship right whatever,

1129
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 4: but anyway, get out me. Dog was being made right

1130
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 4: and they they called me and said, yo, you know

1131
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:02,800
Speaker 4: we this in your man, you know, no irv Gotti

1132
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 4: and DMX like you know you want me to take

1133
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 4: it out. I'm like, you gotta do what you gotta do.

1134
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 3: That's not what I got.

1135
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 6: You know.

1136
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 2: What I'm saying was whatever, So I've.

1137
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:14,399
Speaker 4: Never heard so so when it came out, they still

1138
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 4: bleeped it.

1139
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 2: Oh that's the bleep. But everyone knew that's what he said.

1140
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 4: Though I'm not gonna lie. I didn't know that case

1141
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 4: the concept, but whatever, whatever, they bleep it. Even though

1142
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 4: I said to them, do what you gotta do, they

1143
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 4: still bleeped it. So that was the DMX little story.

1144
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 3: Oh wow, that's that's you ever met ta? Yeah, I

1145
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 3: got picture to be in my rim shot. Man, it's

1146
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 3: the New York Tupac Atlanta, Atlanta, Atlanta. Okay, because everybody

1147
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 3: was they always did.

1148
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 4: Man, you gotta watch the you gotta watch the Freaknick movies.

1149
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 4: That's a h right, yeah, okay, I'm telling the story

1150
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 4: in there.

1151
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay, that's right.

1152
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 4: I'm gonna start now, man.

1153
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 3: Doing what I can see the Magic City tear it

1154
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:04,439
Speaker 3: up original Magic City short.

1155
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 4: It's another nigga with some bread that yeah, he hold it. Okay, good,

1156
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 4: go ahead.

1157
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 2: Next one big pun or big L not or big

1158
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 2: pun big L. See that's man, you wild now shot.

1159
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 4: See you take a shot because that's sasse. Two different dynamics,

1160
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 4: but both of them lyrically is lyrically nobody never seen

1161
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 4: heard before. See mefore that you can't do that. You

1162
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 4: gotta take you gotta get jokes resting piece of both

1163
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 4: of them.

1164
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 1: And imagine if both of them would have been here today,

1165
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 1: And the same with Pocket and next.

1166
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 3: You always always wanted to see what Big Pun would

1167
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 3: be like with a Twitter account.

1168
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 4: What made you say that?

1169
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 1: Or easy, he says Instagram they would have been sucking

1170
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 1: up because an extension of personality.

1171
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I'm gonna be honest.

1172
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 3: The first time I kind of like really really knew

1173
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 3: that Fab was a real funny person was when he

1174
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 3: when he ranked on the ray J When he did that,

1175
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 3: I was like, fabist funny, like you get around Fab.

1176
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 2: Like if social media helped Fab in.

1177
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 3: My opinion, like like it helped him because people started

1178
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 3: to say, holy shit, he's kind of funny, Like you know,

1179
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 3: because he didn't talk much. He didn't talk, office would

1180
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 3: speak for him. It wouldn't be him, you know what

1181
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 3: I mean. So, but then he didn't have to do

1182
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 3: a dope interview or nothing. Fab would just be funny

1183
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 3: on on the ground and then everybody, and then people

1184
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 3: started to gravitate to us. Yeah, so okay, so we

1185
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 3: want the next one. L L or Kane, Oh.

1186
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 4: You got again, you gotta you gotta look at ship man.

1187
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 4: This is elo coolja whatever the criteria for lyrically, this

1188
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 4: is you gotta take a shot.

1189
00:59:57,800 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 3: You gotta take a shot. I thought you was gonna

1190
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 3: now I was, But the dynamics is, you know, because

1191
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 3: I did have cuts in my eyebrows trying to be

1192
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 3: like that.

1193
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 2: He can't.

1194
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 4: Those are friends and people are this mad sensitive now

1195
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 4: too when you're just like, you know, you say my name,

1196
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 4: you know, Oh, niggas be acting like that, they like you.

1197
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 4: Niggas you mad at that Primo or Pete Rock? Oh

1198
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 4: what's warm with shoes man Dominican in the Columbian Man,

1199
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 4: it's twelve thirty. Niggas like, right, we drinking. You gotta

1200
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 4: drink that. You gotta drink that Mano Sip Sippy sip.

1201
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 1: Who have you worked with more out of those two

1202
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 1: who Premore or Pete Rock?

1203
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 3: Pete Okay, me and.

1204
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 4: Pete got records from nineteen ninety one and heavy these

1205
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 4: basement wow wow peace because his historia wasn't heavy these

1206
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 4: basement because Heavy had the records. This stuff is down

1207
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 4: there at Heavy de Scrip.

1208
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:04,439
Speaker 1: Rest of Peace.

1209
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 3: That's another when we lost it.

1210
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 2: Uh, slick Rick or Biggie Smalls, Yeah.

1211
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 1: What is it? Yo?

1212
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 4: On purpose?

1213
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 2: Biggie Smaller, slick Rick.

1214
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:21,960
Speaker 4: It doesn't Yo, just these sister has never been this

1215
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 4: hard for nobody. I watched this ship. Just ain't you

1216
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 4: put these shows together?

1217
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:29,440
Speaker 3: But they making it personally for you.

1218
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 1: That's why they want.

1219
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 4: But you know the storytellers like the biggest small than

1220
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:38,480
Speaker 4: one too, boy, where they come from. This nigga want

1221
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 4: to junk. Okay, I feel sorry for you.

1222
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 2: You finished.

1223
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 4: They fucking you up.

1224
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 2: Any any stories with Biggie, Yeah, tell us.

1225
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what. I gotta go again, Okay, but

1226
01:01:56,440 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 4: not brung Biggie Smaller to a barber shop right, No,

1227
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 4: this is in Brooklyn to meet me.

1228
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 2: But I don't remember that was getting.

1229
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:09,479
Speaker 1: Your haircut in Brooklyn. I'm getting all that money.

1230
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 4: I'm a Pink Houses nigga Niggs New York. Yeah, okay,

1231
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 4: so I didn't never, I never. I don't remember that story.

1232
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 4: But but he's adamant and people are confirming the story anyway.

1233
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 4: E P. D Breakup. I do Hitting Switches my first single.

1234
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 4: It's directed by Puffy and Hight Williams. First, whatever on

1235
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 4: the set is Notrri's b I g the whole entire time, right,

1236
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 4: So when when I go do a set, I see him,

1237
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 4: you know, he was like, you know, just following now.

1238
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 4: I don't know why he in the video because Puppy

1239
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 4: had the whole mont Vern in my video, you know.

1240
01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 4: At the time, So Biggie Small's tells Tracy Waples, I

1241
01:02:55,880 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 4: need to be on Eric Sermmon's album, right, But me wild,

1242
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 4: I had my own crew, you know. Then I had

1243
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 4: met this regally talking about this kid named Joe Sinister,

1244
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 4: which Je Mester j had and I heard him. So

1245
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 4: that was the only special guests I had on the

1246
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 4: CD at the time. But I never heard in the

1247
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 4: tories big you know, I want to I can shoot

1248
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 4: myself now at at the end of the day. But

1249
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 4: again that's my story of somebody who was looking at

1250
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 4: me in the way, like, yo, was this nigga? I

1251
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 4: needed to be on this nigga's album CD and he

1252
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:32,240
Speaker 4: was brought to me, I don't remember.

1253
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 1: And that's before he had any records, no record party, bullshit.

1254
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 1: Before he was onvd's Blue Funk Nowhere.

1255
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:41,080
Speaker 2: He wasn't No, he didn't do nothing yet.

1256
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:46,240
Speaker 4: Wow, but he was signing the Puff but I don't

1257
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:46,440
Speaker 4: know that.

1258
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 2: I don't know that he was around.

1259
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 3: But yeah, he's with him because Puff the video. You said, yes,

1260
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:55,920
Speaker 3: but wild of Diamond D.

1261
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 4: I gotta go with Diamond because again I played the

1262
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 4: first album and the tour bus. We put that every day.

1263
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 4: That was dos the FIXT player with the album though too,

1264
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:16,840
Speaker 4: but we heard that every day. So I say, like

1265
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:20,680
Speaker 4: that first LP, that's the stump Blunts, no Salary, one

1266
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 4: track mind album, that whole ship.

1267
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:27,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, Leo Cohns and Russell Simmons, they're both same people.

1268
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:30,800
Speaker 3: So they're taking a shot for that. You do.

1269
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:32,600
Speaker 4: You have to because they're both the same people.

1270
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:38,120
Speaker 1: You're saying that one person saying saying bothoth Oh yeah, okay.

1271
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 4: I'm not Maybe that smokers get me because I'm not

1272
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 4: even doing anything.

1273
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:48,280
Speaker 3: It's just crazy n w A or Wu tang Klan,

1274
01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:50,720
Speaker 3: God damn.

1275
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 1: Yo.

1276
01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 4: Are you sure nigga you're gonna be cool?

1277
01:04:58,840 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 3: Gonna be cool?

1278
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:03,080
Speaker 2: Are sipping? Okay? So that he said sane?

1279
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 3: Right?

1280
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 2: He said both?

1281
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 1: Right?

1282
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 4: Both because you know man because n W A Man

1283
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 4: was just like you to about Q Wren Dre and

1284
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:17,080
Speaker 4: and then you're looking at the Wo Tang clan and

1285
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 4: all nine of them came and shocked the planet.

1286
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:23,160
Speaker 2: You cannot they both those both of those crews shocked

1287
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:23,480
Speaker 2: the plant.

1288
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:24,280
Speaker 3: Don't forget the DC.

1289
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 4: And that would have been if he didn't imagine what

1290
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:30,960
Speaker 4: he would have been had.

1291
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:34,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's coming out.

1292
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 4: People realize when you play and hear the lyrically what

1293
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:42,720
Speaker 4: he was. He was incredible because he sold a million records,

1294
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:44,360
Speaker 4: though they like he didn't come out and do whatever.

1295
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 4: This of the lyrics Texas lyrically insane.

1296
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 3: It was similar to like you guys, you had Doc Effects,

1297
01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 3: you had E P M D and you had I

1298
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:58,320
Speaker 3: forget who else I forgetting waste red man and they

1299
01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 3: had n W A Easy E and d O CEO

1300
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 3: same time, H D O C.

1301
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 4: Very dangerous, very like even though I come beget He

1302
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 4: wrote the chronic though.

1303
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:12,840
Speaker 1: To his paying game was crazy. He was that near

1304
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 1: like the Nods of the West Coast before now he was.

1305
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:17,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right, you got to give him that. People

1306
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:18,000
Speaker 4: don't talk about, not.

1307
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:19,320
Speaker 3: Even West Coast because he's from Texas.

1308
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 4: But I mean he made give it to him because

1309
01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 4: they don't know him and he only had the one situation.

1310
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:27,160
Speaker 4: But again, if you go back and you play it

1311
01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:28,680
Speaker 4: or watch the video, his.

1312
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:32,280
Speaker 2: His his delivery, all of it. Like he knew his

1313
01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:38,080
Speaker 2: game was wild, right, And you know we asked him.

1314
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 4: He was yeah.

1315
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:41,720
Speaker 2: We said him, you know, how how fucking for?

1316
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:44,920
Speaker 3: What is uh? What name of the hit?

1317
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 6: No?

1318
01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:50,120
Speaker 1: No, no, no, We were asking him, Yo, where did

1319
01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 1: the patchwak come from? He said he just made it up?

1320
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 1: Like we thought, you know, maybe he had some Caribbean background.

1321
01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 1: He's like, no, he just said he's one of the

1322
01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:59,160
Speaker 1: shock you wanted to shock dra Studio.

1323
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:00,440
Speaker 2: Did you see his documentary?

1324
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:02,120
Speaker 3: You got to see this documentary because when they talk

1325
01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 3: about it, right, they all everyone's like and then doctor

1326
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 3: Dre looks up and goes, I still to this day

1327
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:14,360
Speaker 3: don't know what the fun He says over really he's

1328
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:15,120
Speaker 3: not that ship.

1329
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:18,640
Speaker 1: No, that's such an ill record and the whole album

1330
01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 1: album's crazy.

1331
01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:20,720
Speaker 3: Get the next one.

1332
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 2: Biz mark here o dB uh bis monkey.

1333
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:36,200
Speaker 4: Digital or analog analog all fucking day, analogm analog all day.

1334
01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:41,680
Speaker 2: To Cuba scar face. This is a highly debate debatable

1335
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:44,880
Speaker 2: one here. Yeah you can go on that though too.

1336
01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:47,800
Speaker 4: You can say whatever to but I feel they're the

1337
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:49,120
Speaker 4: same from different parts.

1338
01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 3: They are the same.

1339
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:54,480
Speaker 4: But you got one person that is radical and one

1340
01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:59,000
Speaker 4: dude who tells stories that's insane radical. Yes, whatever, like,

1341
01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:02,680
Speaker 4: but when you play America's most Wanted Nigga, like this

1342
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:05,760
Speaker 4: is life changing. And the certificate too, I think that's

1343
01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:09,480
Speaker 4: certificate too. You playing record and you're playing funking and

1344
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:12,439
Speaker 4: and and jack and for beats to fucking.

1345
01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:13,440
Speaker 1: The e P.

1346
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:15,560
Speaker 2: He said, God your record.

1347
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:22,800
Speaker 4: I'm saying my back to back to back and when

1348
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:24,640
Speaker 4: I'm saying that, run and I don't want to do

1349
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:27,800
Speaker 4: that because niggas is for real?

1350
01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:29,040
Speaker 2: Can you say my name?

1351
01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:29,479
Speaker 6: Like?

1352
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:32,479
Speaker 2: But Face is one of them.

1353
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:38,599
Speaker 4: He's listen man, but listen you. Face is my friend

1354
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 4: because I produced this nigga, so he's my that's my boy.

1355
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:48,120
Speaker 4: But when you go back to n w A in

1356
01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:52,479
Speaker 4: the writing America's most Wanted, the certificate and the.

1357
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:52,960
Speaker 3: And the.

1358
01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 4: Just that with you that I want to say it,

1359
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:00,000
Speaker 4: but you got to drink.

1360
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:03,719
Speaker 2: That's what that was. What argument was that run is crazy?

1361
01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:07,639
Speaker 1: I know, okay, I had it built.

1362
01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 4: Up, getting ready to say give me that I was

1363
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:10,920
Speaker 4: going ready to go.

1364
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:13,280
Speaker 2: There, but you guys are while for this one.

1365
01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:16,760
Speaker 3: You got to say that, I guess Puerto Rican food

1366
01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:21,840
Speaker 3: or Jamaican food Spanish, Like how you said Spanish instead

1367
01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:22,439
Speaker 3: of Puerto Ricans.

1368
01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:24,080
Speaker 4: Is a Puerto Rican.

1369
01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:30,360
Speaker 1: I don't know why I thought recipes of Hurricane g

1370
01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:32,240
Speaker 1: but I thought she was Cuban at one point for

1371
01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:33,320
Speaker 1: some reason, because you was out.

1372
01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:37,760
Speaker 4: Of line that twin that you CARDI b got. She

1373
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:43,160
Speaker 4: had it first card Dominican, but the strong Puerto Rican sat.

1374
01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:48,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, Hurricane Dominican, though, listen.

1375
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:53,280
Speaker 4: Got you right about that, because that's because I'm Dominican. Listen,

1376
01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:03,479
Speaker 4: you know what, because I listen because because the green Eyes, right,

1377
01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:08,439
Speaker 4: I could pull it listening listen.

1378
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:15,679
Speaker 2: Hey wait, wait wait, let me put my story my story.

1379
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:18,680
Speaker 4: I had a rapp named team Hot Up and watch Heights, right.

1380
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:24,080
Speaker 4: They look just like us, So I'm like, damn, I

1381
01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:30,280
Speaker 4: look like y'all. You know, maybe I can pass through, right,

1382
01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 4: Because again, Dominicans go up that that bus on seventy

1383
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:40,040
Speaker 4: second Street. All anybody said, I'm parked outside, it's gonna

1384
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:40,320
Speaker 4: come with.

1385
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 1: And be like I'm here, I'm looking.

1386
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:45,040
Speaker 2: For now English.

1387
01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:48,200
Speaker 4: But she's bad as I'm just waiting to see what

1388
01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:51,840
Speaker 4: I can fix that. You know that bust that come

1389
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:58,639
Speaker 4: up on broad Wait they busted come up English call

1390
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:02,560
Speaker 4: anybody go get her. I'm gonna talk to her, and

1391
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:07,680
Speaker 4: my boy gonna translate. I got money for you. I'm

1392
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:09,720
Speaker 4: gonna give your apartment papers, say, and some food and

1393
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:15,000
Speaker 4: some clothes and a visa. What they was doing.

1394
01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:18,600
Speaker 2: I mean, look, you're not saying I.

1395
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:23,920
Speaker 4: Didn't know about the culture to whatever. I'm just here

1396
01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:26,720
Speaker 4: trying to see what's going on. Washed Heights was was

1397
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:29,760
Speaker 4: new to me, and Dominicans was was heavy. Now Washed

1398
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:33,000
Speaker 4: Heights is fire with restaurants in the hold off all that.

1399
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:34,920
Speaker 4: But at that time is what they did. We parked

1400
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:38,280
Speaker 4: outside seventy first seventy sixth Street, Mida.

1401
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:43,560
Speaker 1: And listen, mister, need to get your Starburst for you.

1402
01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:49,840
Speaker 4: You left, you know, but the good back to the

1403
01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:53,280
Speaker 4: Dominican with the CARDI b You're right, Dominicans and Puerto

1404
01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:55,160
Speaker 4: Ricans wants you to know they're not that.

1405
01:11:55,479 --> 01:11:58,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody's at the Cubans Puerto Ricans like we all.

1406
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:01,000
Speaker 4: I don't unders stay in the same way.

1407
01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:03,720
Speaker 3: If I said you from Brooklyn and you was like, nah,

1408
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:06,639
Speaker 3: I'm from Long Island because you have their own.

1409
01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:08,840
Speaker 2: But that's the difference.

1410
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:11,760
Speaker 4: Though, Why is this? Why are they saying that to

1411
01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:14,320
Speaker 4: knowing that they it's stupid to me. It seems like

1412
01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:15,720
Speaker 4: they're close, but I don't know that.

1413
01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:18,240
Speaker 1: No, it's not right, it's not, but it is the

1414
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:21,240
Speaker 1: thing is, that's colonial bullshit in all of our minds.

1415
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:26,080
Speaker 3: You're correct, that's what it is a difference. Not eat

1416
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:29,800
Speaker 3: my fu from my portoy, different land, different But what's

1417
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:32,320
Speaker 3: funked up about that? You can't even base it on

1418
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:34,919
Speaker 3: the food. I went to my favorite Porto Rican restaurant

1419
01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:38,760
Speaker 3: for damn there six months actually meet the goddamn chefs

1420
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:39,759
Speaker 3: and the chefs was Dominican.

1421
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 1: I was, I was, this is not But what different

1422
01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:47,080
Speaker 1: is my fungal from Mongoul? How difference? It's the same ship.

1423
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:50,880
Speaker 2: But we have the same ship too, It's all, you know.

1424
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:53,640
Speaker 3: But but there's certain people might say Coca cola, and

1425
01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:56,840
Speaker 3: also all of that comes from that.

1426
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 2: It's all a mix. Huh, Why why not mister?

1427
01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:10,640
Speaker 3: One is Puerto Rican and one is Dominican When you

1428
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:10,920
Speaker 3: eat it?

1429
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:19,400
Speaker 1: What wait, it's all based on planting, bro Relax man.

1430
01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:23,760
Speaker 4: This is the part too. It's because argument because because

1431
01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:27,400
Speaker 4: I don't do they is again different with Puerto Ricans

1432
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:30,920
Speaker 4: and Dominicans. Some of them put olives in there in

1433
01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:36,479
Speaker 4: it right and what and what and yeah, I don't

1434
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:39,880
Speaker 4: do that the rice and beans.

1435
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:41,720
Speaker 1: And some people put in right all of in the

1436
01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:43,640
Speaker 1: the ground beef to.

1437
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:47,640
Speaker 4: Some people I went that to Dominicans don't do the

1438
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:49,600
Speaker 4: same way that Puerto Ricans do.

1439
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:52,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's there's there's the differences. That's why they that's

1440
01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:54,400
Speaker 1: their it's the same name.

1441
01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:57,920
Speaker 2: No, that was just not that.

1442
01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:02,800
Speaker 3: That's no. And then you don't understand. This is called

1443
01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:04,559
Speaker 3: what exactly?

1444
01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:04,880
Speaker 6: So that.

1445
01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:07,240
Speaker 1: Congree.

1446
01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:10,640
Speaker 2: But then this is the thing to be hungry. The

1447
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:12,560
Speaker 2: difference is shoes divine.

1448
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:18,360
Speaker 1: And then the South American and Central American those start

1449
01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:21,760
Speaker 1: to change, you know, because then it's colonialism. How long

1450
01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:24,320
Speaker 1: Spain was there? How long this was here? Like main

1451
01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:26,799
Speaker 1: not a part of us. Spain is the reason why.

1452
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:27,759
Speaker 2: We talk Spanish guy Spain.

1453
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:29,679
Speaker 3: Let me just tell you some bro then that Spain

1454
01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:31,760
Speaker 3: is the whitest You're not a Titano, you are not

1455
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:35,640
Speaker 3: a Spain is the whitest Latino country, the.

1456
01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:36,400
Speaker 2: Color in the world.

1457
01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:40,960
Speaker 1: They are the reason why we are Latinos. Unfortunately, colonialism, bro,

1458
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:46,200
Speaker 1: and we all gonna take that ship all the same question. Yeah,

1459
01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:48,680
Speaker 1: we're sucking up right now. You picked, you picked, you

1460
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:58,000
Speaker 1: picked port Weekond pick colonially to forty sure, Hammer over them.

1461
01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:00,320
Speaker 1: We got to talk about you was on that tour. Yeah,

1462
01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:02,880
Speaker 1: so how did you feel what everybody like? Was it

1463
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:05,759
Speaker 1: around ever the time when third base was dising Hammer,

1464
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:08,040
Speaker 1: when when people were disinhammered.

1465
01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:09,120
Speaker 4: Their base in come they came at ninety one, but

1466
01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:11,760
Speaker 4: they wasn't out yet. They was probably they copy came.

1467
01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:13,439
Speaker 1: When we got But how did you feel about people

1468
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:15,640
Speaker 1: disin hammered being that you was not?

1469
01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:18,560
Speaker 4: Because because I had don't forget, we had to. We

1470
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:20,880
Speaker 4: had beef with Hammer, so we it wasn't so you

1471
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:23,280
Speaker 4: guys started that then what you mean you had beef

1472
01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:23,679
Speaker 4: for Hammer?

1473
01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:28,160
Speaker 2: E PMD on the tour? Yeah, oh remind us listen.

1474
01:15:28,240 --> 01:15:30,320
Speaker 4: Me and Paris put it to We gave it to everybody,

1475
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:33,479
Speaker 4: like I said, for I was like I said, six

1476
01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:35,760
Speaker 4: two and a half, heavy set, chocolate brown, hell of

1477
01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:38,880
Speaker 4: a jab gift together. It didn't matter. People thought they

1478
01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:41,679
Speaker 4: was they was like that and we had to show

1479
01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:43,519
Speaker 4: them that you wasn't like that. So you open your

1480
01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:45,680
Speaker 4: mouth up, you're catching it. That's what Keith Murray was

1481
01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:49,280
Speaker 4: a problem though too. Everybody was trying to calm Keith

1482
01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:52,559
Speaker 4: Murray down, but you they was fucking the fire on him.

1483
01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:55,080
Speaker 4: So he couldn't sit back and just say whatever he

1484
01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:56,840
Speaker 4: had to go. He was gonna cut you.

1485
01:15:57,080 --> 01:15:59,120
Speaker 2: So the same thing too, when you on this road,

1486
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:00,720
Speaker 2: you on this thing.

1487
01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:03,719
Speaker 4: Always artists, you know, they want to get the certain

1488
01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:05,960
Speaker 4: position I want to go on before you, or this

1489
01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:08,280
Speaker 4: and that or take your spot, the whole nine. And

1490
01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:10,519
Speaker 4: anybody that was trying to get that, they had it coming.

1491
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:13,840
Speaker 2: So I'd never heard about the EPM DMC.

1492
01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:16,719
Speaker 4: I mean I think I I vaguely remember I said

1493
01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:18,960
Speaker 4: on somebody else's thing, but you know you want to

1494
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:22,559
Speaker 4: hear that. You want to hear what happened. Yes, okay,

1495
01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:24,880
Speaker 4: So we had the dancer called Findy. Findy was a

1496
01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:31,160
Speaker 4: good dancer. He's from the Brooklyn No, he's from the

1497
01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:38,040
Speaker 4: Rockaway right, so he's he was He was all over

1498
01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:41,200
Speaker 4: the stage. Hammer comes out to speakers and riders, so

1499
01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:43,400
Speaker 4: you know you want to be like, stay off the speakers.

1500
01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:47,960
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. Because the Hammer's people told

1501
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:54,559
Speaker 4: EPMDS dancers stay off the speaker, right, So so okay,

1502
01:16:54,760 --> 01:16:57,040
Speaker 4: so we on tour whatever like that and that, that

1503
01:16:57,160 --> 01:16:59,840
Speaker 4: and this. But when you and the when the mow

1504
01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:02,560
Speaker 4: and the crowds hype, you get amped. So maybe in

1505
01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:06,760
Speaker 4: my dance's mind he remembered, but he probably didn't remember it.

1506
01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:12,479
Speaker 4: So that one night Vanila Ice opens up matter of fact,

1507
01:17:12,479 --> 01:17:13,960
Speaker 4: when the lights wanted to go on tour and dance

1508
01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:18,680
Speaker 4: with Findy be on toy EPMD. It's crazy, but he

1509
01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:24,519
Speaker 4: that night got on the speaker dancing. So we get

1510
01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:28,599
Speaker 4: off the stage. I think it was Hammer's brother, not Lou,

1511
01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:33,040
Speaker 4: but another one came and was barking at Findy, so

1512
01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:36,080
Speaker 4: we don't know this is going on hammer pants, I

1513
01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:38,240
Speaker 4: don't know. I didn't look at all that everybody in

1514
01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:44,519
Speaker 4: his crew maybe maybe the his the stat I mean

1515
01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:48,439
Speaker 4: everybody that was on stay. But anyway, they was talking right,

1516
01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:51,920
Speaker 4: so we here like yelling. We see the dancer going

1517
01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:54,600
Speaker 4: back and forth. So Paris comes over. Here is it

1518
01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:59,599
Speaker 4: and then boom busts this nigga glasses and everything, yes,

1519
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:03,200
Speaker 4: all of it, all of us, the practice, cook, the blow,

1520
01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:08,240
Speaker 4: then the door punt first quickly, so once he hit him,

1521
01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:14,759
Speaker 4: we see like a whole fucking sea of people.

1522
01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:19,040
Speaker 2: Can you imagine him? And got thirty on stage. Anyway, so.

1523
01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:24,240
Speaker 4: The people started coming and there was police officers. You know,

1524
01:18:24,320 --> 01:18:26,640
Speaker 4: I can't make this up. So after a while we

1525
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:30,960
Speaker 4: ended ended up moving towards the wrong way. So now

1526
01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:34,000
Speaker 4: we're in this corridor where you go backstage and change.

1527
01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:38,000
Speaker 4: Now it's me, Solo, Alvin God by the Dead, and

1528
01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:43,160
Speaker 4: I and some other person against all these people and

1529
01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:46,400
Speaker 4: we're like, oh, Ship, And one of the god was like, yo,

1530
01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:48,080
Speaker 4: I want him to chubby one.

1531
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:51,920
Speaker 2: So I'm like God, damn, I'm like Ship.

1532
01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:56,719
Speaker 4: So now I get to him karate.

1533
01:18:57,320 --> 01:18:59,040
Speaker 2: I don't know, no comfortable.

1534
01:19:10,040 --> 01:19:13,920
Speaker 4: Dance, nothing whatever. So Solo is a golden glove boxer,

1535
01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:16,200
Speaker 4: so at least I know maybe he can be able to.

1536
01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:20,840
Speaker 2: Take two or three one on one. But I know

1537
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:22,879
Speaker 2: Alvin is he's dangerous.

1538
01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:28,640
Speaker 4: But again, it too many people for some reason, the

1539
01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:33,080
Speaker 4: police were the sheriffs had it didn't get to that point,

1540
01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:36,519
Speaker 4: but it almost got there. So then the next day

1541
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:41,160
Speaker 4: we get a call from Leo and Russell because they

1542
01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:43,479
Speaker 4: had called him and said we want no parts with E. P. M. D.

1543
01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:47,200
Speaker 4: We want no parts of them. And that's that's how

1544
01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:48,760
Speaker 4: it it ended.

1545
01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:53,759
Speaker 3: The tour ended, It's like, wow, did you ever connect

1546
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:54,439
Speaker 3: with Hammer? After that?

1547
01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:57,840
Speaker 2: He didn't even show up to the next show. This

1548
01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:00,320
Speaker 2: in his hometown. He didn't show up. Ok because of

1549
01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:04,200
Speaker 2: that if and he didn't come.

1550
01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:06,559
Speaker 1: To Oakland.

1551
01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:07,880
Speaker 2: No, that's crazy.

1552
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:10,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, mister fab where you'll ave.

1553
01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:13,000
Speaker 3: Too Short?

1554
01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:16,200
Speaker 4: Nobody Short came Short, came Short was my that's still

1555
01:20:16,240 --> 01:20:19,640
Speaker 4: my boy? Like Short was like like really kind of

1556
01:20:19,680 --> 01:20:20,559
Speaker 4: like holding me down.

1557
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:24,840
Speaker 1: Kind of Oh okay, you know, because they all cool now.

1558
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:26,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they was cool with him and now too.

1559
01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:29,680
Speaker 4: I was cool with him him then, Like so for

1560
01:20:30,040 --> 01:20:31,680
Speaker 4: when people talk about him, I'm like, man, you got

1561
01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:34,439
Speaker 4: to be crazy. Motherfucker sold ten million record You cannot

1562
01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:36,360
Speaker 4: take nothing from him. And I was and I was

1563
01:20:36,520 --> 01:20:39,160
Speaker 4: also an advocate to to like where was he at

1564
01:20:39,240 --> 01:20:42,720
Speaker 4: for Hip hop fifty? You cannot do that. He was

1565
01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:45,280
Speaker 4: like the big quart of it, like whatever, that's why

1566
01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:45,920
Speaker 4: he never came.

1567
01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:47,599
Speaker 2: You'd be like, yo, what happened to him?

1568
01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:51,400
Speaker 4: But again the time whatever, everybody, listen, you're young, norry

1569
01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:54,639
Speaker 4: out there in the nineties. Ain't know none of these phones,

1570
01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:56,599
Speaker 4: none of the other ship this and that whatever. They

1571
01:20:56,720 --> 01:20:58,320
Speaker 4: just got busy, you know, many these shootouts. We was

1572
01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:03,400
Speaker 4: in Jesus like apartments, you know, North Carolina, fucking Callium,

1573
01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:09,080
Speaker 4: fucking Rochester, upstate. I mean, these these people didn't play

1574
01:21:09,160 --> 01:21:11,479
Speaker 4: you coming to their town, right, because don't forget you

1575
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:13,760
Speaker 4: you in the town. The girls is you look at

1576
01:21:14,040 --> 01:21:16,160
Speaker 4: the whole Nimes and now whatever like that, and they're

1577
01:21:16,200 --> 01:21:18,160
Speaker 4: doing the shit that happened the puppy at the club. Yo,

1578
01:21:18,520 --> 01:21:21,240
Speaker 4: I got money too, you know that's the type of

1579
01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:24,439
Speaker 4: shit that that was going on back then. Man, we

1580
01:21:24,640 --> 01:21:31,360
Speaker 4: in fucking Ohio, right, we in one of them shits whatever,

1581
01:21:32,040 --> 01:21:35,479
Speaker 4: one of arenas, and I put I have my EPMD jacket,

1582
01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:38,800
Speaker 4: put my jacket down. Somebody stole my jacket. So somebody said, yo,

1583
01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:41,760
Speaker 4: I got Eric Simmon's jacket, right, making a whole big deal.

1584
01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:44,439
Speaker 4: I'm like, damn man, the niggas got my jacket, so

1585
01:21:45,080 --> 01:21:47,120
Speaker 4: we know you all know who has it. But anyway,

1586
01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:51,280
Speaker 4: twelve Detroit niggas, it's eight thousand people in there, they

1587
01:21:51,439 --> 01:21:57,640
Speaker 4: tearing this areena the fuck up? Right now with me

1588
01:21:58,240 --> 01:22:03,519
Speaker 4: is Jalen Rose, no ship right, I'm the only one

1589
01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:06,160
Speaker 4: with a pistol. So now it's like, okay, we got

1590
01:22:06,280 --> 01:22:09,920
Speaker 4: to get because these niggas are now as shooting so

1591
01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:12,439
Speaker 4: I'm telling you right now, kim My mother died eight

1592
01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:18,280
Speaker 4: months ago. Jalen Roses outside in the moving van. He

1593
01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:22,680
Speaker 4: had to jump in because it was that hectic out

1594
01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:25,479
Speaker 4: in that part. But we got this basketball niggas. We

1595
01:22:25,560 --> 01:22:26,920
Speaker 4: gotta make sure that he's safe.

1596
01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:27,880
Speaker 3: Wow.

1597
01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:29,400
Speaker 1: And this is when he's in the NBA or winning.

1598
01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:34,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is this is this is Maybe it might

1599
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:37,479
Speaker 4: you know, maybe because this is this is ninety ninety,

1600
01:22:37,720 --> 01:22:39,400
Speaker 4: ninety or nineteen ninety.

1601
01:22:39,479 --> 01:22:42,760
Speaker 1: Because isn't at the time five isn't that the Fab five?

1602
01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:45,760
Speaker 1: It might be five?

1603
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:47,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, it might be because don't forget if you watch

1604
01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:50,439
Speaker 4: some of his documentaries, you see on the sofa with

1605
01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:53,120
Speaker 4: pirates like him and Harry Paris had got cool. But

1606
01:22:53,320 --> 01:22:55,599
Speaker 4: but again the Fat five had to because it's ninety

1607
01:22:56,200 --> 01:23:01,639
Speaker 4: so so had to moving banduck crazy and I'm like, yeah,

1608
01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:03,120
Speaker 4: imagine that ship didn't go right?

1609
01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:09,640
Speaker 1: Thank got it? Okay, Cypress Hills on the Fuji's.

1610
01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:13,920
Speaker 4: They got to go with withis because it was my boys,

1611
01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:17,840
Speaker 4: even though it's people too, because I was mad cool

1612
01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:20,120
Speaker 4: with Lauren in the beginning of me. People don't know

1613
01:23:20,200 --> 01:23:22,000
Speaker 4: that about law. Lauren used to call the studio. We

1614
01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:24,800
Speaker 4: used to talk a lot, like talk a lot on

1615
01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:27,320
Speaker 4: the phone, you know what I mean. But but again,

1616
01:23:27,400 --> 01:23:30,960
Speaker 4: but you know Cyper Stills, they changed the whole fusih

1617
01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:31,640
Speaker 4: ain't escape too.

1618
01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:35,719
Speaker 2: But for niggas like that Hardcourt ship. That was problem

1619
01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:36,080
Speaker 2: with them.

1620
01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:38,840
Speaker 4: That's the word.

1621
01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:41,000
Speaker 2: The first video.

1622
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:42,400
Speaker 4: I was like, but you got to talk about you

1623
01:23:42,439 --> 01:23:45,640
Speaker 4: said you got the tape to Cyprus. We had the

1624
01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:47,760
Speaker 4: same Sony rap. So when I when I got up

1625
01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:49,519
Speaker 4: the playing me and past in the car with the

1626
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:52,960
Speaker 4: Sony rap, he had the Cyper Skills tape. Whatever I heard,

1627
01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:54,880
Speaker 4: I'm like, this is crazy. I just happened to call

1628
01:23:55,040 --> 01:23:57,080
Speaker 4: Cube because I wanted Cube to hear it. I don't

1629
01:23:57,160 --> 01:23:59,240
Speaker 4: know why I called them, but I said, yo, meet

1630
01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:01,160
Speaker 4: me at He said, no, me me such and such.

1631
01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:03,599
Speaker 4: So I brought him to tape when I came home.

1632
01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:07,800
Speaker 4: He in the video. Yeah, so you really like the

1633
01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:10,160
Speaker 4: you know cyber steals when he when he heard him

1634
01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:12,760
Speaker 4: and he's in the video in New York. That's what

1635
01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:15,240
Speaker 4: I'm saying in New York. That's the ill part. And

1636
01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:17,840
Speaker 4: he will says when he looked up and saw him, like,

1637
01:24:17,920 --> 01:24:19,200
Speaker 4: ohly ship, that's cute.

1638
01:24:19,439 --> 01:24:22,760
Speaker 1: That video has mad cameos. Yeah, that's a crazy A

1639
01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:23,639
Speaker 1: lot of New York cameo.

1640
01:24:23,800 --> 01:24:26,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he said that they did label. The

1641
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:29,200
Speaker 4: label wanted him to. They wanted them to shoot that

1642
01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:31,680
Speaker 4: to get the New York because again not knowing that

1643
01:24:31,840 --> 01:24:33,600
Speaker 4: LA was going to play the record. But it's a

1644
01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:35,439
Speaker 4: New York sounds, it's a jam, so they're like, yo,

1645
01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:36,400
Speaker 4: let's shoot it there.

1646
01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:42,519
Speaker 3: Except got me, got me? You're still going with that? Yeah, yeah,

1647
01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:45,400
Speaker 3: We've got another one. A deaf squad or his squad

1648
01:24:46,680 --> 01:24:53,120
Speaker 3: his squad. Okay, Metro Boomer or Murder Beats, metro Keith

1649
01:24:53,240 --> 01:24:54,240
Speaker 3: Mary or Redman.

1650
01:24:55,880 --> 01:24:57,840
Speaker 2: The way are you doing that? Drink Man?

1651
01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:04,040
Speaker 4: Look that's said, got to take a super peepiece in

1652
01:25:04,120 --> 01:25:04,519
Speaker 4: a second.

1653
01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:09,559
Speaker 3: Just Blaze or bank they hate each other by the way,

1654
01:25:09,680 --> 01:25:13,600
Speaker 3: f y Yeah no, see from what.

1655
01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:15,960
Speaker 4: I guys see, I say it's just because he did

1656
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:19,160
Speaker 4: the record for me too. But but bank Dog style

1657
01:25:19,439 --> 01:25:22,200
Speaker 4: is just insane. I think that I think that people,

1658
01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:25,080
Speaker 4: I think he might be the father of it. You

1659
01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:27,840
Speaker 4: know of a couple of people's styles on on the

1660
01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:32,800
Speaker 4: on the low because if you play the songs that

1661
01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:35,560
Speaker 4: don't because he was there first. So you play the

1662
01:25:35,640 --> 01:25:37,880
Speaker 4: records and see some of the technique of it.

1663
01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:42,320
Speaker 3: You said he was there first, my Rockefeller, the style.

1664
01:25:42,160 --> 01:25:44,519
Speaker 4: Of the style of the beat. When you hear people

1665
01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:47,599
Speaker 4: that came after him, you know, I'm just hey, man,

1666
01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:49,200
Speaker 4: God damn it.

1667
01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:52,320
Speaker 2: That's big coming for you. So you say, I'm just

1668
01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:53,320
Speaker 2: giving the father.

1669
01:25:53,360 --> 01:25:56,160
Speaker 4: The factual, the timing history of the history of it,

1670
01:25:56,280 --> 01:25:58,599
Speaker 4: like when you see the stuff that he was doing.

1671
01:25:59,240 --> 01:26:01,640
Speaker 4: And you know, you gotta put Rockbill in there too,

1672
01:26:01,640 --> 01:26:05,760
Speaker 4: because again some of the styles are similar, but he

1673
01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:11,960
Speaker 4: was first before the other one, you know. And but

1674
01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:15,519
Speaker 4: again we all take from ship, you know what I mean.

1675
01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:20,320
Speaker 4: But you know, just Blase is incredible. You gotta you

1676
01:26:20,360 --> 01:26:23,040
Speaker 4: gotta sit man, because because both of them is ill

1677
01:26:23,240 --> 01:26:34,439
Speaker 4: at what they do. I know, I'm sorry, order youngsters illegal.

1678
01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:35,840
Speaker 4: Come on, Both those groups are dope.

1679
01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:38,240
Speaker 2: Though rock him okay, restaurant.

1680
01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:42,559
Speaker 4: Rockim is my mentor Chris is my man doing too.

1681
01:26:42,640 --> 01:26:44,920
Speaker 4: But I gotta go for my partner who's down the

1682
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:47,680
Speaker 4: block from me, you know, Long Island. I'm gonna have

1683
01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:50,320
Speaker 4: to take a people got you gotta take a dookie.

1684
01:26:55,240 --> 01:26:56,200
Speaker 3: So he picked him.

1685
01:26:58,200 --> 01:26:59,320
Speaker 2: M j Or Prince.

1686
01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:03,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, Michael Jackson. Even though Prinson is still

1687
01:27:03,439 --> 01:27:05,240
Speaker 4: a genius because he produced his own music.

1688
01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:05,880
Speaker 2: And the whole one.

1689
01:27:05,880 --> 01:27:09,519
Speaker 4: But I just watched him Michael Jackson just before about

1690
01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:15,600
Speaker 4: what they said that Michael Jackson when he did the

1691
01:27:15,680 --> 01:27:21,600
Speaker 4: Oprah Winfrey interview, right, it was one billion people that

1692
01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:22,120
Speaker 4: watched it.

1693
01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:24,320
Speaker 2: No, five hundred, five hundred million.

1694
01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:32,479
Speaker 4: Right then when he did oh no, when when he

1695
01:27:33,320 --> 01:27:38,880
Speaker 4: passed away, it was one billion people that watched it. Yes.

1696
01:27:39,200 --> 01:27:39,400
Speaker 1: Wow.

1697
01:27:39,800 --> 01:27:41,240
Speaker 4: So when you talk about the people like I'm the

1698
01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:43,559
Speaker 4: next Michael, none of y'all, no way in the world

1699
01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:49,479
Speaker 4: his whole ship about him. Chris don't have that neither.

1700
01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:51,560
Speaker 4: But you have to give it to Michael. He was

1701
01:27:52,200 --> 01:27:56,160
Speaker 4: something that we never ever, ever ever seen before.

1702
01:27:57,360 --> 01:28:01,960
Speaker 3: You heard you ever hear the stories of the beefing No, yeah,

1703
01:28:03,120 --> 01:28:05,719
Speaker 3: like the more and more interview people.

1704
01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:08,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't think they like each other.

1705
01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:08,960
Speaker 4: Mike said.

1706
01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:11,960
Speaker 3: He showed up to a couple of the shows, but

1707
01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:14,280
Speaker 3: he was there to shut him down. He wasn't there

1708
01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:18,400
Speaker 3: like okay, he wasn't there to like he like. Mike

1709
01:28:18,439 --> 01:28:20,800
Speaker 3: would come up to some Prince shows and know that

1710
01:28:21,160 --> 01:28:23,960
Speaker 3: these people ain't gonna tell him, no, he's fucking Michael Jackson.

1711
01:28:24,200 --> 01:28:26,280
Speaker 3: And he would go on and try to perform before

1712
01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:29,760
Speaker 3: prints from certain things and real, Yeah, like this is

1713
01:28:29,880 --> 01:28:33,040
Speaker 3: this is like we have multiple stories from different people,

1714
01:28:33,479 --> 01:28:35,840
Speaker 3: and Mike was Mike was kind of the more and

1715
01:28:35,960 --> 01:28:37,800
Speaker 3: more you kind of see it and you like kind

1716
01:28:37,840 --> 01:28:38,439
Speaker 3: of see him like.

1717
01:28:38,479 --> 01:28:39,280
Speaker 2: With gang members.

1718
01:28:39,320 --> 01:28:43,320
Speaker 3: You're like, that didn't make sense, Like he I almost

1719
01:28:43,360 --> 01:28:44,960
Speaker 3: thought I saw him throw up a side but I did,

1720
01:28:46,320 --> 01:28:48,720
Speaker 3: I did, and I did but and beat it. No, no, no,

1721
01:28:50,000 --> 01:28:53,479
Speaker 3: like all that. It was always like certain things and

1722
01:28:53,560 --> 01:28:58,000
Speaker 3: then you hear like his affiliation, like it's different.

1723
01:28:58,080 --> 01:28:58,200
Speaker 1: Man.

1724
01:28:58,280 --> 01:29:00,760
Speaker 3: So I always said, or those stories. This is my

1725
01:29:00,800 --> 01:29:03,840
Speaker 3: favorite stories. Michael Jackson and Prince stories. Have you ever

1726
01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:04,320
Speaker 3: met Mike.

1727
01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:09,920
Speaker 4: Let me tell you a story with Mike. So I

1728
01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:12,960
Speaker 4: got a call to go do Black Street Teddy Rally.

1729
01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:17,599
Speaker 4: So me and my cousin ride down to Virginia again.

1730
01:29:18,520 --> 01:29:24,599
Speaker 4: N all right, cool, well yo, you you're mentioning there

1731
01:29:24,640 --> 01:29:28,080
Speaker 4: one more time when I'm stopping. I know, but this

1732
01:29:28,240 --> 01:29:28,720
Speaker 4: is too much.

1733
01:29:29,320 --> 01:29:32,360
Speaker 1: Let's go. Let's go because let's take this to this.

1734
01:29:32,439 --> 01:29:34,920
Speaker 4: I'm already in every he's already in every interview. He's like,

1735
01:29:35,960 --> 01:29:36,920
Speaker 4: did you say my name again?

1736
01:29:38,160 --> 01:29:40,600
Speaker 1: We're talking about So I.

1737
01:29:40,640 --> 01:29:44,519
Speaker 3: Go to Virginia and and I see you're speaking to

1738
01:29:44,560 --> 01:29:45,240
Speaker 3: see Teddy Rally.

1739
01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:47,600
Speaker 4: No I go see he called me okay, so so

1740
01:29:47,680 --> 01:29:49,960
Speaker 4: because don't beginut, I did Booty Call the first single

1741
01:29:49,960 --> 01:29:53,639
Speaker 4: when they first something right, that's right? So after I whatever,

1742
01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:59,200
Speaker 4: I walk inside for real. So I walk inside there

1743
01:29:59,760 --> 01:30:04,040
Speaker 4: the first person I meet is Pharrell Wow right. It

1744
01:30:04,120 --> 01:30:08,160
Speaker 4: is a producer there him Chad and a singer named Mike.

1745
01:30:09,320 --> 01:30:12,439
Speaker 4: So he's like, yo, I wrap like you do?

1746
01:30:12,640 --> 01:30:16,439
Speaker 1: Yes, it's his shirt tight? What's what's true?

1747
01:30:16,760 --> 01:30:17,880
Speaker 6: What like?

1748
01:30:17,920 --> 01:30:20,280
Speaker 4: I'm not looking at people like that I do.

1749
01:30:20,400 --> 01:30:22,360
Speaker 3: I have to describe the situation ahead continued.

1750
01:30:22,560 --> 01:30:26,880
Speaker 4: So if you go on the internet, there's a song

1751
01:30:26,960 --> 01:30:30,599
Speaker 4: with me and Pharrell called boot Monocalization that we made

1752
01:30:30,640 --> 01:30:33,240
Speaker 4: in nineteen ninety three. Boot what I know?

1753
01:30:33,320 --> 01:30:35,080
Speaker 3: It's crazy ninety three?

1754
01:30:35,280 --> 01:30:37,599
Speaker 4: Yes, because I put them on two records.

1755
01:30:37,800 --> 01:30:39,599
Speaker 1: Are trying to say you discovered the Neptunes before?

1756
01:30:39,640 --> 01:30:40,400
Speaker 4: No, I justspect that.

1757
01:30:44,479 --> 01:30:45,200
Speaker 3: Tell you had them.

1758
01:30:45,600 --> 01:30:46,200
Speaker 1: It's very true.

1759
01:30:46,479 --> 01:30:52,000
Speaker 4: He had in the studio. That was the producers. I

1760
01:30:52,200 --> 01:30:54,679
Speaker 4: let him rhyme on the records that I was doing.

1761
01:30:55,479 --> 01:30:58,280
Speaker 1: You let Pharrell run before anybody else, let him ryme right.

1762
01:30:58,760 --> 01:31:03,960
Speaker 2: I always take those prospects. Fuck you, Eric, I din't

1763
01:31:03,960 --> 01:31:05,479
Speaker 2: know that. You gotta go on the YouTube and you

1764
01:31:05,600 --> 01:31:05,800
Speaker 2: go that.

1765
01:31:05,880 --> 01:31:09,360
Speaker 4: I didn't know that. Anyway, I'm already amp up because

1766
01:31:09,360 --> 01:31:13,120
Speaker 4: I'm there with Teddy outside of the tour bus, right,

1767
01:31:14,600 --> 01:31:21,599
Speaker 4: Michael Jackson on tour bus. So Mike goes to the bathroom.

1768
01:31:21,760 --> 01:31:25,240
Speaker 4: I miss him, right, So I don't know that part.

1769
01:31:25,680 --> 01:31:29,000
Speaker 4: Teddy says, Eric, Yo, you want to be Michael. I

1770
01:31:29,080 --> 01:31:32,000
Speaker 4: was like, not now you said not? Now, I know

1771
01:31:32,240 --> 01:31:36,679
Speaker 4: what's wrong with you? Were you nervous?

1772
01:31:37,320 --> 01:31:37,599
Speaker 2: Michael?

1773
01:31:37,960 --> 01:31:40,479
Speaker 4: I was there with Teddy? No, I was there with Teddy.

1774
01:31:40,640 --> 01:31:43,000
Speaker 4: Wasn't like this is what I was here doing for

1775
01:31:43,160 --> 01:31:46,479
Speaker 4: some reason that was that wasn't more important than what

1776
01:31:46,640 --> 01:31:51,000
Speaker 4: I was doing. I know that's the illly ship. I

1777
01:31:51,240 --> 01:31:56,640
Speaker 4: told Teddy. Not now crazy. I could have walked on

1778
01:31:56,720 --> 01:32:00,479
Speaker 4: that bus, shook hands, maybe, could have building a record, anything, anything.

1779
01:32:00,600 --> 01:32:02,000
Speaker 4: My mind was someplace else.

1780
01:32:02,400 --> 01:32:04,439
Speaker 2: And let me guess that Michael float out of there.

1781
01:32:05,160 --> 01:32:05,960
Speaker 1: No, he he is.

1782
01:32:07,840 --> 01:32:13,040
Speaker 3: You've never seen I never saw. So your one chance

1783
01:32:13,120 --> 01:32:14,439
Speaker 3: to be one chance you blew it.

1784
01:32:14,560 --> 01:32:15,920
Speaker 4: Take a pictures the whole that I could have had,

1785
01:32:15,960 --> 01:32:16,400
Speaker 4: all that ship.

1786
01:32:16,800 --> 01:32:19,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, you ain't even take a flick for the ground.

1787
01:32:20,840 --> 01:32:24,160
Speaker 4: Tell you to collaborate, Tell you would collaborate the story, nigga,

1788
01:32:24,280 --> 01:32:26,280
Speaker 4: Like yo, the bus is sitting out there.

1789
01:32:26,320 --> 01:32:27,200
Speaker 2: He said, you want to meet him?

1790
01:32:27,240 --> 01:32:32,040
Speaker 4: I said not. Now he must have thought Teddy must

1791
01:32:32,040 --> 01:32:34,200
Speaker 4: have thought he was was I don't know what he's doing.

1792
01:32:34,600 --> 01:32:37,360
Speaker 1: Well, I know Michael thinking he was told, oh, yeah,

1793
01:32:37,360 --> 01:32:37,519
Speaker 1: if he.

1794
01:32:37,520 --> 01:32:42,719
Speaker 2: Were Teddy, yeah, Michael, he would have been like crumbs.

1795
01:32:44,439 --> 01:32:46,360
Speaker 3: And then Teddy went back and say, man, he'll be

1796
01:32:46,560 --> 01:32:47,559
Speaker 3: He'll be a little while.

1797
01:32:48,400 --> 01:32:50,160
Speaker 4: Yeah. But but but at the end of the day,

1798
01:32:50,240 --> 01:32:52,080
Speaker 4: Michael Jackson, nobody was bigger than him.

1799
01:32:52,160 --> 01:32:55,240
Speaker 2: Nobody, nobody. I'm not gonna lie Chris Brown right now.

1800
01:32:55,680 --> 01:32:58,800
Speaker 4: Very close what I told you, nigga, very close though,

1801
01:32:59,160 --> 01:33:04,760
Speaker 4: five hundred millions, Michael's one billion international. He goes to

1802
01:33:05,080 --> 01:33:08,560
Speaker 4: the shows, there's one hundred thousand people a shot, no

1803
01:33:08,680 --> 01:33:09,920
Speaker 4: matter what outside.

1804
01:33:10,040 --> 01:33:12,280
Speaker 2: When he goes somewhere, he got to shut down.

1805
01:33:12,160 --> 01:33:15,439
Speaker 4: The whole Christmas would tell you neighborhood everything. We never

1806
01:33:15,560 --> 01:33:19,320
Speaker 4: seen that from no individual that that that was it.

1807
01:33:22,520 --> 01:33:27,320
Speaker 1: That's why I said close, like damn shape, political everything internationally,

1808
01:33:27,400 --> 01:33:28,880
Speaker 1: probably helped the Cold War everything.

1809
01:33:28,920 --> 01:33:30,840
Speaker 4: People that have stopped to see it. When he show

1810
01:33:30,960 --> 01:33:32,320
Speaker 4: up somewhere, what they got to do. They have to

1811
01:33:32,360 --> 01:33:36,439
Speaker 4: shut down the neighborhood. This is just proof of the

1812
01:33:36,560 --> 01:33:39,240
Speaker 4: millions and millions of millions of people. You never but

1813
01:33:39,320 --> 01:33:41,559
Speaker 4: no individual. He's bigger than anything we have ever seen.

1814
01:33:43,400 --> 01:33:46,439
Speaker 2: Who come on, you just left field right now to

1815
01:33:46,640 --> 01:33:49,400
Speaker 2: this question? Is crazy? A couple of those.

1816
01:33:51,600 --> 01:33:53,840
Speaker 1: Ahead? Yay? Or for real?

1817
01:33:55,600 --> 01:33:55,960
Speaker 2: Kanye?

1818
01:33:56,760 --> 01:33:59,120
Speaker 1: We did that already. No, no, no, we just brought

1819
01:33:59,200 --> 01:34:01,080
Speaker 1: up for we just brought mom. You said who you say?

1820
01:34:01,080 --> 01:34:06,840
Speaker 4: You said Kanye even though Parrell's ill, but Kanye again,

1821
01:34:07,000 --> 01:34:09,760
Speaker 4: when he came he kind of whatever. I know when

1822
01:34:09,800 --> 01:34:12,280
Speaker 4: I was, like you said, from when you sit there,

1823
01:34:12,320 --> 01:34:14,920
Speaker 4: you kind of dormant. But when he when I heard

1824
01:34:15,200 --> 01:34:17,519
Speaker 4: the ship that when he came out, it kind of

1825
01:34:17,560 --> 01:34:19,280
Speaker 4: woke me up as a producer.

1826
01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:22,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, that's that's that's that's a compliment.

1827
01:34:22,840 --> 01:34:27,320
Speaker 4: Radio podcast. Oh it's podcast.

1828
01:34:27,920 --> 01:34:38,120
Speaker 1: Good Cam or Mace, you.

1829
01:34:38,160 --> 01:34:38,760
Speaker 4: Gotta sip it.

1830
01:34:39,080 --> 01:34:42,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, big up to Cam and makes too man very

1831
01:34:42,040 --> 01:34:42,360
Speaker 1: proud of.

1832
01:34:44,560 --> 01:34:47,439
Speaker 4: Because they both to me, is almost kind of the same.

1833
01:34:47,479 --> 01:34:50,000
Speaker 4: Though kind of though too because because they both spit

1834
01:34:50,080 --> 01:34:54,920
Speaker 4: the that that that dollar that they both what they're doing.

1835
01:34:55,280 --> 01:34:56,400
Speaker 3: Cheers love what they're doing.

1836
01:34:56,840 --> 01:35:00,719
Speaker 4: Uh, Chris Rock or Dave Chappelle, I got the biggest

1837
01:35:00,760 --> 01:35:06,040
Speaker 4: list ever. Yeah, it's your niggas wold out with that. Yeah,

1838
01:35:09,840 --> 01:35:11,760
Speaker 4: so Chris Rockert, Dave Chappelle.

1839
01:35:12,840 --> 01:35:13,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1840
01:35:17,640 --> 01:35:21,160
Speaker 4: No, because I know Chris One, I know Dave Funny.

1841
01:35:21,439 --> 01:35:23,479
Speaker 4: Now I'm just saying that just Chris say PMD fan.

1842
01:35:23,600 --> 01:35:27,679
Speaker 4: So I'm saying I don't you know. And I watched

1843
01:35:27,720 --> 01:35:30,280
Speaker 4: everything he did, and I watched anything Dave did too, And.

1844
01:35:30,320 --> 01:35:33,639
Speaker 2: They're both just hip hop heads, like heavy hip hop,

1845
01:35:33,920 --> 01:35:35,759
Speaker 2: bolt of them. Yeah, and both of them legends.

1846
01:35:36,000 --> 01:35:41,000
Speaker 4: And yeah, yeah, gotta drink almost you know you too, man,

1847
01:35:41,000 --> 01:35:43,560
Speaker 4: you gotta drink I don't know, but you got to

1848
01:35:43,680 --> 01:35:47,120
Speaker 4: cool out too, like you gotta cool out this ship

1849
01:35:47,240 --> 01:35:48,240
Speaker 4: right here is a question.

1850
01:35:48,320 --> 01:35:51,760
Speaker 2: They sucked it up and got your good No, yeah,

1851
01:35:51,800 --> 01:35:52,439
Speaker 2: we're not good.

1852
01:35:54,560 --> 01:35:56,519
Speaker 3: Man, oh man.

1853
01:35:58,439 --> 01:36:06,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, way point is ill, but I'm gonna give it

1854
01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:10,120
Speaker 4: to him to method man. Okay, kick a pri or

1855
01:36:10,160 --> 01:36:16,880
Speaker 4: DJ red Alert, Yeah, but they they do different things.

1856
01:36:17,120 --> 01:36:18,800
Speaker 2: Kick a pre is like that's the point.

1857
01:36:19,200 --> 01:36:23,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's whatever, it's whatever your category, whatever whatever, you could.

1858
01:36:23,840 --> 01:36:27,200
Speaker 4: I guess say both, yes, both they both because they

1859
01:36:27,280 --> 01:36:32,400
Speaker 4: both impacted, hugely impacted, usually because that mixtape game was

1860
01:36:33,320 --> 01:36:34,000
Speaker 4: something insane.

1861
01:36:34,840 --> 01:36:37,920
Speaker 3: Doctor Drake or Puff Daddy, Well you stop, go ahead

1862
01:36:38,400 --> 01:36:39,240
Speaker 3: because it's Dre.

1863
01:36:41,680 --> 01:36:47,240
Speaker 2: You said, Yeah, Molly, Ma or large professor, but Molly Ma,

1864
01:36:48,040 --> 01:36:50,080
Speaker 2: he would be he's invented sampling.

1865
01:36:50,200 --> 01:36:52,640
Speaker 4: You got to give it. There's nothing to say about that.

1866
01:36:55,560 --> 01:36:56,320
Speaker 4: You're still going.

1867
01:36:56,640 --> 01:36:58,800
Speaker 3: You got only a couple more, a couple more your

1868
01:36:58,800 --> 01:37:00,599
Speaker 3: own TV raps or video music box?

1869
01:37:01,439 --> 01:37:05,160
Speaker 2: Rough me, Daniels, I like that kiss or fabulous?

1870
01:37:06,040 --> 01:37:06,519
Speaker 3: What did you say?

1871
01:37:08,600 --> 01:37:09,360
Speaker 2: Why did he say?

1872
01:37:10,200 --> 01:37:15,720
Speaker 4: He wrote it in Spanish sweak fluent speak fluent, mister Lee.

1873
01:37:17,040 --> 01:37:22,519
Speaker 4: They knew that you was not represented. They put that

1874
01:37:22,640 --> 01:37:22,880
Speaker 4: in there.

1875
01:37:22,920 --> 01:37:23,240
Speaker 1: You put that.

1876
01:37:28,200 --> 01:37:30,280
Speaker 4: Have him say it because he because he's gonna say nothing,

1877
01:37:30,640 --> 01:37:47,760
Speaker 4: have him saying, yeah, wow, fab turned out to be dangerous.

1878
01:37:48,040 --> 01:37:50,599
Speaker 4: He did yeah, man, kiss was always dangerous.

1879
01:37:52,800 --> 01:37:54,439
Speaker 2: Yes, you know you gotta you gotta sick.

1880
01:37:54,439 --> 01:37:56,479
Speaker 4: You know why? Because again, because fab turned out to

1881
01:37:56,520 --> 01:37:58,080
Speaker 4: be something dangerous.

1882
01:37:58,120 --> 01:37:59,680
Speaker 2: I mean, we don't have to know.

1883
01:38:00,800 --> 01:38:05,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, you got it, Sonny, New Jack City or King

1884
01:38:05,640 --> 01:38:16,559
Speaker 4: of New York if a nickel baggers throw in the park.

1885
01:38:18,320 --> 01:38:27,040
Speaker 3: M Frank White, but you know brown, you know Brown

1886
01:38:27,280 --> 01:38:28,960
Speaker 3: brung thus skin niggas back to life?

1887
01:38:30,720 --> 01:38:31,400
Speaker 2: What was Homegirl?

1888
01:38:31,520 --> 01:38:32,320
Speaker 1: Rock saved me?

1889
01:38:32,439 --> 01:38:35,439
Speaker 4: That was the New Jack City? Yes, but even though

1890
01:38:35,520 --> 01:38:38,200
Speaker 4: King of New York was fucking crazy.

1891
01:38:38,840 --> 01:38:44,719
Speaker 3: The what's my man name and Chris. He was Wessey Snipes.

1892
01:38:45,360 --> 01:38:47,560
Speaker 3: Wessey Snipes did such a good job that when I

1893
01:38:47,640 --> 01:38:49,599
Speaker 3: met him in real life I was still scared of him.

1894
01:38:50,680 --> 01:38:52,880
Speaker 1: And Bro, he was a cop.

1895
01:38:52,960 --> 01:38:54,320
Speaker 2: He did such a good job.

1896
01:38:56,320 --> 01:38:58,880
Speaker 1: I knew he wouldn't have Copper.

1897
01:38:59,160 --> 01:39:00,679
Speaker 2: This is the first time he's him as a cop.

1898
01:39:00,760 --> 01:39:01,040
Speaker 4: It was.

1899
01:39:02,760 --> 01:39:04,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a fact. That's the fact.

1900
01:39:04,720 --> 01:39:07,280
Speaker 3: What I'm saying is my first time encountering I see

1901
01:39:07,680 --> 01:39:10,200
Speaker 3: course of that role. I wasn't him, but when I

1902
01:39:10,840 --> 01:39:14,599
Speaker 3: you were scared him as yeah West, I saw Nino.

1903
01:39:15,439 --> 01:39:17,599
Speaker 4: Yeah look at your funky black ass.

1904
01:39:17,800 --> 01:39:24,280
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, Chris, you picked blue Jack City. This is

1905
01:39:24,520 --> 01:39:26,040
Speaker 3: the last one that we could get back to the interview.

1906
01:39:27,560 --> 01:39:29,480
Speaker 3: Loyalty or respect.

1907
01:39:31,200 --> 01:39:33,360
Speaker 4: I got to go on with was it was?

1908
01:39:33,439 --> 01:39:34,200
Speaker 3: It was it.

1909
01:39:36,520 --> 01:39:37,160
Speaker 4: Holy Ship?

1910
01:39:37,280 --> 01:39:38,360
Speaker 2: Who would you have up here?

1911
01:39:38,520 --> 01:39:40,160
Speaker 3: Snoop no said love.

1912
01:39:40,280 --> 01:39:44,280
Speaker 4: I know, yes, Snoop Stead though too, but also I

1913
01:39:44,360 --> 01:39:46,759
Speaker 4: think it was bleak Memphis.

1914
01:39:46,920 --> 01:39:49,320
Speaker 1: Everybody has a different take. I think they kind of

1915
01:39:49,600 --> 01:39:51,840
Speaker 1: they kind of you need both of them. I think

1916
01:39:51,920 --> 01:39:53,400
Speaker 1: both is the most logical answer.

1917
01:39:53,600 --> 01:39:53,800
Speaker 4: Both.

1918
01:39:53,920 --> 01:39:56,240
Speaker 3: It's the only question that we've both people.

1919
01:39:56,160 --> 01:39:58,360
Speaker 1: Come in with one and they going with this crazy

1920
01:39:59,160 --> 01:39:59,840
Speaker 1: dire tribe.

1921
01:40:00,800 --> 01:40:11,960
Speaker 4: So respect and loyalty right, yes, me, respect might be

1922
01:40:12,040 --> 01:40:14,920
Speaker 4: a little bit more bigger though, because the reason why

1923
01:40:15,080 --> 01:40:18,040
Speaker 4: is like the loyal is dead too. But I feel

1924
01:40:18,080 --> 01:40:19,880
Speaker 4: like you if you don't got to respect, you can't

1925
01:40:19,920 --> 01:40:22,919
Speaker 4: get that. You don't want both, you do, but respect

1926
01:40:23,120 --> 01:40:26,040
Speaker 4: is a big one. So you rather that than both.

1927
01:40:27,320 --> 01:40:29,320
Speaker 4: That's the thing I'm going to respect because the nigga

1928
01:40:29,360 --> 01:40:32,479
Speaker 4: ca you catch because that's goes a long way because

1929
01:40:32,640 --> 01:40:35,600
Speaker 4: I can see what's what's happening. Loyal for me is

1930
01:40:35,720 --> 01:40:38,840
Speaker 4: not how I'm still here. Respect is how I'm still here.

1931
01:40:39,120 --> 01:40:41,680
Speaker 4: Niggas respect me. So this is why I'm saying that

1932
01:40:42,040 --> 01:40:43,680
Speaker 4: to the loyalty, I don't really have to be lord

1933
01:40:43,760 --> 01:40:45,960
Speaker 4: and nobody like that. You know that I know about it.

1934
01:40:46,080 --> 01:40:48,519
Speaker 4: Be like yo, damn you niggasayer a nigga no but respect.

1935
01:40:49,080 --> 01:40:50,960
Speaker 4: No to respect got me where I'm at.

1936
01:40:51,479 --> 01:40:56,040
Speaker 3: So you're going respect, yes, But let me just I'm explaining.

1937
01:40:55,720 --> 01:40:58,960
Speaker 4: The way niggas didn't play it that way. Like respect

1938
01:40:59,120 --> 01:41:01,799
Speaker 4: you can't buy it. Your niggas can't get it. If

1939
01:41:01,800 --> 01:41:04,800
Speaker 4: you respect is it's always earned, exactly always.

1940
01:41:05,640 --> 01:41:09,120
Speaker 1: But let me just chatting on you. You not only

1941
01:41:09,240 --> 01:41:11,240
Speaker 1: have respect, you have love.

1942
01:41:12,000 --> 01:41:14,800
Speaker 3: That's the beautiful thing about you, like you don't just

1943
01:41:14,880 --> 01:41:18,720
Speaker 3: have features because people, you know, are looking to get

1944
01:41:18,760 --> 01:41:19,600
Speaker 3: a check or looking to know.

1945
01:41:19,720 --> 01:41:20,720
Speaker 2: People respect you.

1946
01:41:21,280 --> 01:41:22,920
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. That's that's why I'm here.

1947
01:41:23,439 --> 01:41:24,240
Speaker 1: It respect is you.

1948
01:41:24,439 --> 01:41:26,000
Speaker 2: But love is loyal too.

1949
01:41:26,120 --> 01:41:28,800
Speaker 3: Loved though right and to me love, love is loyalty and.

1950
01:41:28,880 --> 01:41:29,400
Speaker 2: Love is Lord.

1951
01:41:29,400 --> 01:41:32,120
Speaker 4: You're putting three together, you gotta. I'm trying to choose

1952
01:41:32,200 --> 01:41:34,799
Speaker 4: love the Lord to you? Have you said loyalty and respect?

1953
01:41:34,840 --> 01:41:36,000
Speaker 4: The love is something different.

1954
01:41:36,160 --> 01:41:38,360
Speaker 1: You can't just add the love is loyalty in my

1955
01:41:39,120 --> 01:41:39,920
Speaker 1: add another word.

1956
01:41:40,720 --> 01:41:43,280
Speaker 3: I know he said loyalty, and say.

1957
01:41:43,200 --> 01:41:47,080
Speaker 4: Love, loyalty and respect. Love he's added another word. You

1958
01:41:47,120 --> 01:41:47,519
Speaker 4: can't do that.

1959
01:41:48,040 --> 01:41:51,360
Speaker 3: I think love loyalty is the same, not not really,

1960
01:41:51,439 --> 01:41:53,800
Speaker 3: not really someone can love you. Take a shot for

1961
01:41:53,880 --> 01:41:54,280
Speaker 3: that anyway.

1962
01:41:55,280 --> 01:41:57,559
Speaker 4: For me getting it wrong, You trying to add something

1963
01:41:57,600 --> 01:41:58,719
Speaker 4: into the new contest.

1964
01:41:58,760 --> 01:42:02,879
Speaker 1: This is love you I do you dirty? That's facts exactly.

1965
01:42:04,400 --> 01:42:08,519
Speaker 1: We don't want you to say ship just playing. You've

1966
01:42:08,520 --> 01:42:12,120
Speaker 1: been drinking from you deserve. Ain't no camera on you

1967
01:42:12,200 --> 01:42:14,960
Speaker 1: or not. I ain't got no love for you. Bad

1968
01:42:15,200 --> 01:42:15,720
Speaker 1: bad Huh.

1969
01:42:17,960 --> 01:42:24,600
Speaker 2: Everyone's road is your you know this nigga drunk some

1970
01:42:24,680 --> 01:42:25,920
Speaker 2: people might go on a dirt road.

1971
01:42:26,000 --> 01:42:27,320
Speaker 4: Wait wait wait wait wait, you.

1972
01:42:30,040 --> 01:42:31,280
Speaker 3: Know your role.

1973
01:42:31,920 --> 01:42:33,639
Speaker 1: Everybody started off with loyalty.

1974
01:42:33,880 --> 01:42:36,519
Speaker 2: Because you're still here too.

1975
01:42:36,680 --> 01:42:41,439
Speaker 4: Respect And that's why I'm saying that exactly.

1976
01:42:45,040 --> 01:42:46,320
Speaker 3: I don't understand what you takes.

1977
01:42:47,240 --> 01:42:52,000
Speaker 7: I just told you you did not understand what inspect

1978
01:42:52,400 --> 01:42:57,720
Speaker 7: comes first. He said like this, He said, like broad

1979
01:42:59,080 --> 01:42:59,680
Speaker 7: you come back to me.

1980
01:43:00,240 --> 01:43:01,759
Speaker 1: Well, let me tell you something, Eric Sherman.

1981
01:43:03,240 --> 01:43:04,400
Speaker 2: It's just about giving people.

1982
01:43:04,479 --> 01:43:06,800
Speaker 3: They flowers where they could smell them, they thought where

1983
01:43:06,800 --> 01:43:07,280
Speaker 3: they could tell it.

1984
01:43:07,360 --> 01:43:07,920
Speaker 2: We didn't get it.

1985
01:43:08,160 --> 01:43:10,240
Speaker 3: They drink, get drinking, they thoughts when they could think

1986
01:43:10,240 --> 01:43:13,200
Speaker 3: of them. And we need to give you your flying away.

1987
01:43:16,479 --> 01:43:18,760
Speaker 1: We need to get you up. We wound up doing

1988
01:43:18,800 --> 01:43:20,439
Speaker 1: this back then when the first time he came up.

1989
01:43:20,880 --> 01:43:22,680
Speaker 1: The first time was hold on, let me say so.

1990
01:43:22,800 --> 01:43:25,240
Speaker 4: Let me say so, y'all mad bows that was empty on.

1991
01:43:27,240 --> 01:43:30,519
Speaker 4: We drank them because there was twenty sixteen though, y'all

1992
01:43:30,600 --> 01:43:34,880
Speaker 4: in the hotel with a bootleg and the whole type

1993
01:43:34,880 --> 01:43:35,160
Speaker 4: of ship.

1994
01:43:36,400 --> 01:43:39,280
Speaker 2: It was different times. Man, Well, listen.

1995
01:43:40,880 --> 01:43:42,759
Speaker 3: Ya dance.

1996
01:43:45,800 --> 01:43:49,719
Speaker 2: We will figured that out. We figured it out exactly,

1997
01:43:49,840 --> 01:43:51,799
Speaker 2: said this is right here is yeah, nope.

1998
01:43:51,680 --> 01:43:53,880
Speaker 1: This is figuring it out. So so let me just

1999
01:43:53,960 --> 01:43:57,960
Speaker 1: say something. They're real would this be if it wasn't

2000
01:43:58,000 --> 01:43:58,680
Speaker 1: an E P M D.

2001
01:43:59,760 --> 01:44:02,000
Speaker 3: They wouldn't be a component oriega, It wouldn't be a

2002
01:44:02,040 --> 01:44:02,839
Speaker 3: component in oreega.

2003
01:44:02,880 --> 01:44:04,360
Speaker 2: It wouldn't be a drink. Absolutely.

2004
01:44:04,920 --> 01:44:08,400
Speaker 4: So did you watch the the fucking Ship with with

2005
01:44:08,600 --> 01:44:12,920
Speaker 4: with Mark Wilbourne talking in the addition say it won't

2006
01:44:12,960 --> 01:44:15,760
Speaker 4: be a Backstreet Boys or in sync. You got to say,

2007
01:44:22,720 --> 01:44:26,639
Speaker 4: it's the truth. It's the truth, the evolution.

2008
01:44:26,800 --> 01:44:28,640
Speaker 3: And we all got to the two men, to the

2009
01:44:28,720 --> 01:44:31,840
Speaker 3: two man groups, from Smith and Wesson, to mob Deep

2010
01:44:31,880 --> 01:44:33,519
Speaker 3: to m O P to.

2011
01:44:33,800 --> 01:44:36,599
Speaker 1: All of us. We all owe it to y'all.

2012
01:44:36,880 --> 01:44:38,360
Speaker 4: I appreciate that that two men.

2013
01:44:39,240 --> 01:44:40,760
Speaker 2: And I know I always say this word wrong.

2014
01:44:40,880 --> 01:44:41,480
Speaker 1: Camarerie.

2015
01:44:42,960 --> 01:44:44,120
Speaker 2: That's the Spanish coming out of me.

2016
01:44:44,800 --> 01:44:49,560
Speaker 1: Camarerie, camaraderie. You know what I mean? The Commodore's you

2017
01:44:49,640 --> 01:44:50,800
Speaker 1: motherfucker's invented that.

2018
01:44:51,200 --> 01:44:54,519
Speaker 4: Well, we robbed run DMC for it for it.

2019
01:44:55,880 --> 01:44:58,640
Speaker 1: See the three people though, still so why y'all say that?

2020
01:44:58,960 --> 01:45:01,719
Speaker 2: I understand that though, but too, but it's still two rappers.

2021
01:45:02,080 --> 01:45:04,479
Speaker 4: They had a d J too, Yeah, but no, no,

2022
01:45:04,560 --> 01:45:09,719
Speaker 4: no jams J is the two rappers back and forth.

2023
01:45:10,040 --> 01:45:11,840
Speaker 4: We listen when you look at the E P M

2024
01:45:11,880 --> 01:45:17,920
Speaker 4: D logo. Oh LEO, did that? Russell said, did this? Russell?

2025
01:45:18,080 --> 01:45:20,840
Speaker 4: I said, E P D was E P E E

2026
01:45:21,600 --> 01:45:25,680
Speaker 4: M D E E is long. Russell was like, do

2027
01:45:25,800 --> 01:45:26,240
Speaker 4: it this way.

2028
01:45:26,240 --> 01:45:28,600
Speaker 2: I said, Russell, you can't take your because the.

2029
01:45:30,200 --> 01:45:33,600
Speaker 4: Red. You can't take run DMC's logo because all it

2030
01:45:33,760 --> 01:45:36,479
Speaker 4: is is just chopped up line. Run DMC is.

2031
01:45:36,479 --> 01:45:38,120
Speaker 3: Well, y'all had the same motherfucking logo.

2032
01:45:38,600 --> 01:45:39,880
Speaker 1: Look at it now. I never.

2033
01:45:41,280 --> 01:45:43,320
Speaker 4: And we told Russell. He said, don't take care, don'torry

2034
01:45:43,320 --> 01:45:44,640
Speaker 4: about that. I take care of that.

2035
01:45:53,160 --> 01:45:53,519
Speaker 2: Secret.

2036
01:45:53,600 --> 01:45:54,479
Speaker 4: You look right at it.

2037
01:45:55,640 --> 01:45:57,200
Speaker 2: Not a secret, not a secret.

2038
01:45:57,760 --> 01:45:59,200
Speaker 1: But if you didn't know, you didn't know.

2039
01:45:59,360 --> 01:46:01,479
Speaker 2: I know, I didn't know today. I mean I just

2040
01:46:01,520 --> 01:46:02,479
Speaker 2: thought the death cham we.

2041
01:46:02,560 --> 01:46:04,720
Speaker 4: Had different colors, and then they had the nerve to

2042
01:46:04,760 --> 01:46:05,519
Speaker 4: put the red.

2043
01:46:05,560 --> 01:46:06,720
Speaker 2: And the white like them on.

2044
01:46:06,800 --> 01:46:11,200
Speaker 3: This one because these were the color right right, and

2045
01:46:11,280 --> 01:46:19,000
Speaker 3: god damn it, it worked. And because of that from

2046
01:46:19,280 --> 01:46:21,200
Speaker 3: if you're going to give it to run to you.

2047
01:46:21,280 --> 01:46:25,280
Speaker 4: Guys that you guys, well the style, change rock him,

2048
01:46:25,360 --> 01:46:28,120
Speaker 4: change the style. Then our new style came in. So

2049
01:46:28,280 --> 01:46:30,800
Speaker 4: that's when we started doing the gun talking. So that's

2050
01:46:30,840 --> 01:46:33,560
Speaker 4: where again the mob's coming. Mattha let me get a

2051
01:46:33,560 --> 01:46:36,200
Speaker 4: plug real quick, because I called you though to you

2052
01:46:36,840 --> 01:46:39,200
Speaker 4: you he was busy. I don't say that your why

2053
01:46:39,439 --> 01:46:43,200
Speaker 4: on the projects not called okay two man's right. So

2054
01:46:43,240 --> 01:46:48,519
Speaker 4: when you're bringing that up and you said less dynamic duels, right, you.

2055
01:46:48,600 --> 01:46:50,640
Speaker 2: Did the whole album. Capon't even called me for that.

2056
01:46:51,000 --> 01:46:54,639
Speaker 4: Dynamic duels is something that I did because the way

2057
01:46:54,680 --> 01:46:57,840
Speaker 4: y'all did drink champs like okay, well, which I heard

2058
01:46:57,880 --> 01:46:59,880
Speaker 4: the story I off is true that y'all did the

2059
01:47:00,200 --> 01:47:02,840
Speaker 4: because to interview people like us.

2060
01:47:05,680 --> 01:47:08,400
Speaker 2: So when COVID was going on, even.

2061
01:47:08,200 --> 01:47:10,360
Speaker 4: Though they had the idea before, I was like, you

2062
01:47:10,400 --> 01:47:13,320
Speaker 4: know what, I got to do this for hip hop

2063
01:47:13,479 --> 01:47:17,040
Speaker 4: and for these for my colleagues who feel they can't

2064
01:47:17,080 --> 01:47:19,960
Speaker 4: make records no more. Who told you to stop making records?

2065
01:47:20,000 --> 01:47:22,880
Speaker 4: Like how you doing this? I'm like, fuck all that.

2066
01:47:23,439 --> 01:47:27,800
Speaker 4: So I called the people you know, DM them. I

2067
01:47:27,840 --> 01:47:31,160
Speaker 4: mean I ain't really called nobody, but I d M

2068
01:47:31,320 --> 01:47:35,000
Speaker 4: them and I made records on them. So when I

2069
01:47:35,120 --> 01:47:37,760
Speaker 4: have Run came to the studios, but the Run DMC

2070
01:47:37,920 --> 01:47:40,960
Speaker 4: dynamic because they wasn't making no ship. Both of them

2071
01:47:41,000 --> 01:47:45,599
Speaker 4: was this adamant it ain't happening. So then I made

2072
01:47:45,880 --> 01:47:47,960
Speaker 4: I called storm Pepper because I didn't have no girls.

2073
01:47:48,520 --> 01:47:50,320
Speaker 4: So that's why the sworn Pepper's on the now though two.

2074
01:47:50,760 --> 01:47:55,120
Speaker 4: But on the album who you Have Pepper mab D

2075
01:47:58,520 --> 01:48:02,519
Speaker 4: from Heaven No, probably I got vocals. I got you

2076
01:48:02,600 --> 01:48:06,519
Speaker 4: got vocals, okay, Hell the Skelter he got vocals. Dog

2077
01:48:06,640 --> 01:48:12,519
Speaker 4: Pound okay, m O p mm hmm brdan F not

2078
01:48:12,680 --> 01:48:19,920
Speaker 4: cnn E P M D bum B and U g K.

2079
01:48:20,040 --> 01:48:22,519
Speaker 4: But you can't say you gotta say bumb petureman pimp

2080
01:48:22,600 --> 01:48:25,320
Speaker 4: c Okay, you have to say it leally. You can't

2081
01:48:25,320 --> 01:48:28,720
Speaker 4: say U g K that some iss like some in

2082
01:48:28,800 --> 01:48:36,760
Speaker 4: the medical So that's some ship, okay, right, Snoop Dogg

2083
01:48:36,840 --> 01:48:42,920
Speaker 4: and Nate Dog okay. And Biggie Smalls and Biggie Biggie

2084
01:48:42,920 --> 01:48:48,519
Speaker 4: Smells and Biggie Yes. And when you hear yeah, I know.

2085
01:48:50,680 --> 01:48:52,320
Speaker 2: What is Biggs and Biggie.

2086
01:48:52,520 --> 01:48:54,320
Speaker 1: Early, Biggie Smalls is in notorious.

2087
01:48:54,560 --> 01:48:56,680
Speaker 4: All of it is early, but it's not something that

2088
01:48:56,920 --> 01:49:00,800
Speaker 4: was like vaguely familiar. And the way that I did it,

2089
01:49:00,920 --> 01:49:02,840
Speaker 4: it's fucked up because a I came out right, so

2090
01:49:03,240 --> 01:49:06,120
Speaker 4: people ain't gonna look at me and be like yo, nah, Eric,

2091
01:49:06,280 --> 01:49:09,160
Speaker 4: but no, it's me This is how I made it

2092
01:49:09,520 --> 01:49:12,200
Speaker 4: if I the biggest small than Tupac was together. This

2093
01:49:12,280 --> 01:49:14,640
Speaker 4: is how we hit them together rocking. So I was

2094
01:49:14,920 --> 01:49:17,200
Speaker 4: doing my ship to make it seem like they was together.

2095
01:49:17,560 --> 01:49:19,439
Speaker 4: How I said with me and Marvin was like I

2096
01:49:19,600 --> 01:49:21,439
Speaker 4: was answering back and forth with him like he was

2097
01:49:21,520 --> 01:49:23,519
Speaker 4: with me. I made a song like that too, to

2098
01:49:23,640 --> 01:49:25,839
Speaker 4: make it seem like those two were together.

2099
01:49:26,560 --> 01:49:27,280
Speaker 2: Which two.

2100
01:49:29,120 --> 01:49:34,040
Speaker 4: The biggest moll in PC. You didn't say that, he said, big?

2101
01:49:34,439 --> 01:49:34,920
Speaker 4: Oh yeah I did.

2102
01:49:35,840 --> 01:49:37,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know there was that guy that suited him.

2103
01:49:37,680 --> 01:49:40,160
Speaker 2: That's why he changed biggie small. That's what you meant.

2104
01:49:45,520 --> 01:49:48,840
Speaker 4: Yo, I said, biggest, small than bigger. You're looking at

2105
01:49:48,920 --> 01:50:00,080
Speaker 4: my confusion. I said, I'm like, no, that's all, and

2106
01:50:00,120 --> 01:50:04,280
Speaker 4: you got clearance. Well, I guess Puppy cleared his quicker.

2107
01:50:04,680 --> 01:50:07,040
Speaker 4: The two pacing stage is kind of again. They're taking

2108
01:50:07,080 --> 01:50:10,080
Speaker 4: a long time, but nobody said no so to me

2109
01:50:11,360 --> 01:50:11,800
Speaker 4: to let go.

2110
01:50:12,640 --> 01:50:15,240
Speaker 3: I don't think anybody's gonna tell you no. You know,

2111
01:50:16,240 --> 01:50:18,200
Speaker 3: I think that's you're one of those let me get

2112
01:50:18,200 --> 01:50:20,200
Speaker 3: your flowers. Please don't cut me off because you don't

2113
01:50:20,320 --> 01:50:24,720
Speaker 3: guess to be coming. He deserves to. No, no, no, no,

2114
01:50:24,840 --> 01:50:30,240
Speaker 3: it's cool. You are one of those people that no

2115
01:50:30,360 --> 01:50:32,280
Speaker 3: one can actually say no no.

2116
01:50:32,320 --> 01:50:33,280
Speaker 4: It says that all the time.

2117
01:50:33,680 --> 01:50:34,519
Speaker 1: I'm just being honest.

2118
01:50:34,600 --> 01:50:39,560
Speaker 3: You you, your genuineness, your humbleness and your realness and

2119
01:50:39,680 --> 01:50:43,599
Speaker 3: his legacy. I'm not even the legacy is like number seven,

2120
01:50:44,120 --> 01:50:46,880
Speaker 3: but the realness and how you you you are as

2121
01:50:46,960 --> 01:50:49,920
Speaker 3: a person. I don't think there's anybody on this earth.

2122
01:50:50,000 --> 01:50:53,560
Speaker 3: There's certain people who have that you. I see it.

2123
01:50:53,640 --> 01:50:55,600
Speaker 3: In fact, Joe I can't tell Fat Joe no, and

2124
01:50:55,680 --> 01:50:57,519
Speaker 3: I can't tell DJ Collin no, even though I be

2125
01:50:57,640 --> 01:51:03,280
Speaker 3: knowing it's wrong, I'd be like, damn, I don't know

2126
01:51:04,000 --> 01:51:05,200
Speaker 3: Colin asked me to do anything.

2127
01:51:05,200 --> 01:51:06,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, what the I do it?

2128
01:51:06,960 --> 01:51:09,760
Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't know why where like?

2129
01:51:09,960 --> 01:51:12,080
Speaker 1: But but it's real.

2130
01:51:12,200 --> 01:51:16,920
Speaker 4: It's so crazy because now realness ship, it's the.

2131
01:51:16,960 --> 01:51:19,600
Speaker 3: Realness who you are. It's the humbleness and like you

2132
01:51:20,200 --> 01:51:23,479
Speaker 3: just all said, the legacy. You're a super super legend.

2133
01:51:23,479 --> 01:51:27,600
Speaker 3: You're an icon. And I don't think there's anybody on

2134
01:51:27,680 --> 01:51:31,200
Speaker 3: this planet that, if you call yourself, is going to

2135
01:51:31,280 --> 01:51:32,160
Speaker 3: say no to you.

2136
01:51:32,320 --> 01:51:34,600
Speaker 4: Why you say that, because now he gonna look like

2137
01:51:34,720 --> 01:51:36,040
Speaker 4: he's a fucking genius.

2138
01:51:36,160 --> 01:51:41,400
Speaker 2: He is a genius. You're honest with you, man.

2139
01:51:41,479 --> 01:51:43,000
Speaker 4: But how do you know that that's not something that

2140
01:51:43,080 --> 01:51:45,639
Speaker 4: you wouldn't I can see him saying, but you're saying

2141
01:51:45,720 --> 01:51:46,040
Speaker 4: that too.

2142
01:51:46,280 --> 01:51:48,639
Speaker 2: I don't listen, man, I don't know no other ways.

2143
01:51:48,640 --> 01:51:49,960
Speaker 2: You're never going to see that in yourself.

2144
01:51:50,479 --> 01:51:52,640
Speaker 4: That's right about that. And my mother used to be

2145
01:51:52,920 --> 01:51:56,320
Speaker 4: so upset, like, yo, what's wrong with you? Because I'd

2146
01:51:56,320 --> 01:51:57,960
Speaker 4: be like, I guess what I saw last night? He

2147
01:51:58,040 --> 01:52:01,320
Speaker 4: was like, so, like, you know again, but this is

2148
01:52:01,439 --> 01:52:04,200
Speaker 4: just me. I just I know that the humblest I'm

2149
01:52:04,240 --> 01:52:07,200
Speaker 4: humble to a fault. So that's why I mean, like,

2150
01:52:07,360 --> 01:52:08,920
Speaker 4: I really can't say it's the position that I'm in.

2151
01:52:09,280 --> 01:52:13,040
Speaker 4: I never was able to even though I got the status,

2152
01:52:13,160 --> 01:52:17,679
Speaker 4: I never was able to get to you know that part.

2153
01:52:18,200 --> 01:52:20,479
Speaker 1: But it's the long game, and you are reaching that part.

2154
01:52:21,520 --> 01:52:21,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2155
01:52:21,840 --> 01:52:23,719
Speaker 1: Maybe the people that you at one point saw.

2156
01:52:23,760 --> 01:52:25,679
Speaker 2: That part, they're not here anymore.

2157
01:52:25,720 --> 01:52:28,280
Speaker 4: And that's the part that's that's that I'm gonna go

2158
01:52:28,400 --> 01:52:30,840
Speaker 4: on that as far as still being here after thirty

2159
01:52:30,880 --> 01:52:32,519
Speaker 4: six years, to be able to still be.

2160
01:52:36,080 --> 01:52:37,760
Speaker 2: And then to be able to say, okay, you know

2161
01:52:37,840 --> 01:52:40,040
Speaker 2: what a I went.

2162
01:52:39,920 --> 01:52:42,120
Speaker 4: To a party doing the Grammys, and I went to

2163
01:52:42,240 --> 01:52:44,880
Speaker 4: the warning party because I'm on Warner right and I

2164
01:52:44,960 --> 01:52:46,800
Speaker 4: walked in there. I was feign because it was all

2165
01:52:46,920 --> 01:52:50,160
Speaker 4: young people and I'm the old head in there, you know.

2166
01:52:51,320 --> 01:52:58,040
Speaker 4: But I'm like, I'm here with a project getting ready

2167
01:52:58,080 --> 01:53:02,479
Speaker 4: to come out in them like three hundred with all

2168
01:53:02,560 --> 01:53:05,439
Speaker 4: that shit they got over there, and and I'm over

2169
01:53:05,439 --> 01:53:06,840
Speaker 4: there getting ready to come out. So it kind of

2170
01:53:06,880 --> 01:53:09,760
Speaker 4: bugged me out a little bit that how the fuck

2171
01:53:09,800 --> 01:53:13,720
Speaker 4: I'm doing this this long and still be able to

2172
01:53:13,880 --> 01:53:17,560
Speaker 4: And then like like I gotta I got announcement. I

2173
01:53:17,600 --> 01:53:20,160
Speaker 4: can't make it right now though too. But about the

2174
01:53:20,280 --> 01:53:24,360
Speaker 4: about the shock the world because because because my label

2175
01:53:25,400 --> 01:53:28,759
Speaker 4: is going to be with somebody who did this before,

2176
01:53:30,000 --> 01:53:35,479
Speaker 4: and we are getting ready to make another impact. You know,

2177
01:53:35,560 --> 01:53:40,559
Speaker 4: as far as this, somebody's missing the boat with talent.

2178
01:53:41,920 --> 01:53:45,080
Speaker 4: When we signed Nori, we knew he had ten years.

2179
01:53:46,320 --> 01:53:49,640
Speaker 4: We're not signing that. Now we signing what's popular. So

2180
01:53:49,840 --> 01:53:52,000
Speaker 4: now you see why the music business is not doing

2181
01:53:52,080 --> 01:53:54,080
Speaker 4: so well. Seeing why you see the mirage of what

2182
01:53:54,200 --> 01:53:57,800
Speaker 4: you think is doing well. Nobody's signing no talent. And

2183
01:53:57,880 --> 01:54:01,759
Speaker 4: I'm not saying that these everybody that's out it's not talented,

2184
01:54:02,840 --> 01:54:08,240
Speaker 4: but the talented people that don't have to worry about you.

2185
01:54:08,400 --> 01:54:12,160
Speaker 4: Was there, no you hosted this ship. Leo was like,

2186
01:54:12,280 --> 01:54:14,920
Speaker 4: fuck the algorithm, f the fucking likes. You come in

2187
01:54:14,960 --> 01:54:17,599
Speaker 4: front of me with this bullshit, smeaging shit, all this ship,

2188
01:54:17,840 --> 01:54:21,760
Speaker 4: It don't matter. He told every major person in there,

2189
01:54:22,280 --> 01:54:26,400
Speaker 4: sign some fucking talent. All right, he did so, So

2190
01:54:26,560 --> 01:54:30,080
Speaker 4: this is where we're at at this particular moment. Can

2191
01:54:30,120 --> 01:54:33,200
Speaker 4: you rap nigga save says some bars? Okay, now rhyme

2192
01:54:33,480 --> 01:54:35,920
Speaker 4: regular but not behind that record? Okay?

2193
01:54:35,960 --> 01:54:39,080
Speaker 2: Can you sing sing regular? Sing sing now?

2194
01:54:39,080 --> 01:54:43,680
Speaker 1: A lovedes in the computer as far as talented people,

2195
01:54:44,120 --> 01:54:47,720
Speaker 1: and that's what somebody just said that the major label killed.

2196
01:54:47,520 --> 01:54:51,600
Speaker 2: The superstar damn used to be the radio kill.

2197
01:54:52,200 --> 01:54:54,800
Speaker 4: So we don't have that. So where is the fifty?

2198
01:54:54,880 --> 01:54:57,560
Speaker 4: Where's the where's fucking all these people that you see

2199
01:54:57,600 --> 01:54:59,960
Speaker 4: that came out every five years? That was youmongous? Where

2200
01:55:00,080 --> 01:55:01,600
Speaker 4: where's them? Where's the snoop?

2201
01:55:01,600 --> 01:55:01,760
Speaker 1: Where?

2202
01:55:01,800 --> 01:55:04,640
Speaker 4: Where are they? We got the same people circling like.

2203
01:55:04,720 --> 01:55:05,960
Speaker 2: This and they're there though.

2204
01:55:06,600 --> 01:55:09,040
Speaker 1: There's droves of talent, but nobody, nobody doing that.

2205
01:55:09,120 --> 01:55:12,320
Speaker 4: That's what Leo was saying. He told the people know

2206
01:55:12,840 --> 01:55:16,360
Speaker 4: they said, he said, sign some fucking talent and for

2207
01:55:16,440 --> 01:55:19,240
Speaker 4: the only labels. He said, Look at hip hop did

2208
01:55:19,360 --> 01:55:22,240
Speaker 4: made on y'all motherfucking millionaires. Leo was wild on that day.

2209
01:55:22,520 --> 01:55:24,680
Speaker 4: Oh y'all sitting down there. Hip hop did this for

2210
01:55:24,840 --> 01:55:28,720
Speaker 4: y'all very well. So that's what I'm saying. I got

2211
01:55:28,800 --> 01:55:31,680
Speaker 4: that part. Damn, I forgot that far. Yeah, you were

2212
01:55:31,680 --> 01:55:33,880
Speaker 4: talking about that ship because because the only way he

2213
01:55:33,920 --> 01:55:35,040
Speaker 4: don't call him don't fuck with him.

2214
01:55:39,280 --> 01:55:39,879
Speaker 1: That dame.

2215
01:55:44,040 --> 01:55:47,280
Speaker 3: Me because I was like branking the crowd and ship.

2216
01:55:47,560 --> 01:55:50,320
Speaker 3: Jay didn't want to be pranked, and I did not

2217
01:55:50,440 --> 01:55:52,840
Speaker 3: break him either, but they told him to do it.

2218
01:55:55,680 --> 01:55:56,840
Speaker 1: Break everyone around.

2219
01:55:56,600 --> 01:55:59,920
Speaker 4: Him, but not that table was crazy though, Swiss Beads,

2220
01:56:00,400 --> 01:56:03,160
Speaker 4: Jermaine Duprex, Jay and and Puppy.

2221
01:56:03,960 --> 01:56:05,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was wrong.

2222
01:56:06,200 --> 01:56:08,200
Speaker 2: Are you following what's happening with Wendy Williams?

2223
01:56:10,360 --> 01:56:11,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, of course I watched it.

2224
01:56:12,120 --> 01:56:15,240
Speaker 2: You know what, what the what are they putting cameras

2225
01:56:15,240 --> 01:56:15,720
Speaker 2: in her face?

2226
01:56:17,360 --> 01:56:22,520
Speaker 8: She did a series, No nor that ship was supposed

2227
01:56:22,560 --> 01:56:26,720
Speaker 8: to be her reintroduction, like she was saying about coming

2228
01:56:26,800 --> 01:56:29,160
Speaker 8: back to TV, and then it went left.

2229
01:56:29,280 --> 01:56:29,920
Speaker 1: That's what happened.

2230
01:56:29,920 --> 01:56:32,200
Speaker 2: And then in that natural thing that.

2231
01:56:32,280 --> 01:56:37,080
Speaker 4: Was there right, well, she wasn't suposed to shoot that right,

2232
01:56:37,880 --> 01:56:41,440
Speaker 4: but somebody signed, shouldn't I think that to me, like

2233
01:56:41,800 --> 01:56:46,240
Speaker 4: that dude that was talking, I think that they got paid. Wow,

2234
01:56:47,000 --> 01:56:49,200
Speaker 4: you know because again she wasn't supposed to be seen.

2235
01:56:49,680 --> 01:56:50,680
Speaker 4: That wasn't supposed to be seen.

2236
01:56:51,080 --> 01:56:54,400
Speaker 2: Do you think that's karma coming back because annoy wanted

2237
01:56:54,400 --> 01:56:55,040
Speaker 2: to be aggressive?

2238
01:56:56,120 --> 01:56:59,200
Speaker 4: I'm asking, like you think so because that question you

2239
01:56:59,240 --> 01:57:02,080
Speaker 4: already answered that that's what that's what everybody else is

2240
01:57:02,120 --> 01:57:05,480
Speaker 4: saying that too, too, like but people do it, you know.

2241
01:57:05,600 --> 01:57:08,520
Speaker 4: But again, when you had that magnitude and that all that,

2242
01:57:09,040 --> 01:57:13,320
Speaker 4: what are you doing? Oh for you to take home?

2243
01:57:13,720 --> 01:57:21,640
Speaker 3: Yeah? Real, and that ship has because I didn't I

2244
01:57:21,720 --> 01:57:24,360
Speaker 3: didn't think when these people would let that go down.

2245
01:57:25,200 --> 01:57:28,680
Speaker 1: Who's the people's I don't know, but I'm just them

2246
01:57:28,800 --> 01:57:30,080
Speaker 1: that that was people.

2247
01:57:29,920 --> 01:57:32,680
Speaker 4: That know, not not the family fam. You're right, You're right, nobody.

2248
01:57:33,280 --> 01:57:33,840
Speaker 2: I didn't think that.

2249
01:57:34,160 --> 01:57:37,280
Speaker 4: That's why you got to be like, yo, who benefited?

2250
01:57:38,640 --> 01:57:40,640
Speaker 4: And you said, I think it's like the manager and

2251
01:57:40,800 --> 01:57:44,200
Speaker 4: that guy that was you know, to me, did they

2252
01:57:44,320 --> 01:57:44,960
Speaker 4: kept showing them?

2253
01:57:46,200 --> 01:57:46,360
Speaker 6: You know?

2254
01:57:47,440 --> 01:57:47,680
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2255
01:57:47,960 --> 01:57:51,160
Speaker 2: You said the karma karma is the motherfucker though, man.

2256
01:57:51,160 --> 01:57:54,520
Speaker 3: I mean because he made a living putting people in

2257
01:57:54,640 --> 01:57:57,960
Speaker 3: the vulnerable positions, and now it's like she's going out

2258
01:57:58,760 --> 01:58:01,360
Speaker 3: at that same vulnerable visit position that she tried to

2259
01:58:01,400 --> 01:58:01,880
Speaker 3: like put.

2260
01:58:01,800 --> 01:58:02,480
Speaker 2: Everyone else on.

2261
01:58:02,600 --> 01:58:06,360
Speaker 3: And I'm like, I'm just I'm just curious, because I mean,

2262
01:58:07,440 --> 01:58:09,120
Speaker 3: she's the queen of black media.

2263
01:58:10,520 --> 01:58:12,600
Speaker 4: That's one thing you can't take from it. After Oprah Rumphrey,

2264
01:58:12,680 --> 01:58:14,600
Speaker 4: that was it was her. I didn't know how big

2265
01:58:14,640 --> 01:58:17,240
Speaker 4: she wasn't even that all those years she was on Like,

2266
01:58:17,360 --> 01:58:18,960
Speaker 4: I'm like, god, damn, she was that crazy.

2267
01:58:19,040 --> 01:58:20,840
Speaker 3: She was big like that, Like I remember at one

2268
01:58:20,880 --> 01:58:24,520
Speaker 3: point I wish she dissed me like sweater, yeah, because

2269
01:58:24,560 --> 01:58:28,480
Speaker 3: it was like you you like got somewhere if she

2270
01:58:28,600 --> 01:58:29,160
Speaker 3: had beef with.

2271
01:58:29,200 --> 01:58:32,240
Speaker 4: You, like and if you see, what does this say

2272
01:58:32,280 --> 01:58:34,240
Speaker 4: about somebody not saying your name recently?

2273
01:58:34,400 --> 01:58:37,280
Speaker 2: Of Tupac, I always wish, yes.

2274
01:58:37,240 --> 01:58:40,120
Speaker 1: I wanted to want to be kind of did this you,

2275
01:58:40,200 --> 01:58:44,000
Speaker 1: but he just didn't say your name when he did

2276
01:58:44,080 --> 01:58:44,320
Speaker 1: see it.

2277
01:58:44,440 --> 01:58:47,360
Speaker 3: When he did mob Deep, he said, and those other motherfuckers.

2278
01:58:48,920 --> 01:58:52,520
Speaker 4: Okay, right, okay, remember.

2279
01:58:54,480 --> 01:58:54,800
Speaker 1: What you.

2280
01:58:57,080 --> 01:59:01,560
Speaker 2: He was talking about? Because because I was, I never

2281
01:59:01,600 --> 01:59:03,360
Speaker 2: even peeked that when he said the motherucker.

2282
01:59:03,760 --> 01:59:04,880
Speaker 4: I gotta go back to out.

2283
01:59:05,320 --> 01:59:06,440
Speaker 1: Because it never came out of fish.

2284
01:59:06,560 --> 01:59:07,560
Speaker 2: It was those those mixtapes.

2285
01:59:08,560 --> 01:59:10,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was that was hilarious.

2286
01:59:10,960 --> 01:59:12,520
Speaker 4: He said, I wish he said my name.

2287
01:59:12,560 --> 01:59:13,960
Speaker 2: I would have been ill. I would have been.

2288
01:59:16,240 --> 01:59:20,920
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, Tyler said this and a funny

2289
01:59:20,960 --> 01:59:23,680
Speaker 3: way to us on our show, and he said, even

2290
01:59:23,720 --> 01:59:27,360
Speaker 3: when Kanye West diss you, he picked you up because

2291
01:59:27,400 --> 01:59:29,440
Speaker 3: if he diss you, it's like you have a new

2292
01:59:29,560 --> 01:59:32,080
Speaker 3: single out, everyone wants.

2293
01:59:31,960 --> 01:59:35,200
Speaker 1: To talk to you. And I, oh, no, that, Like,

2294
01:59:35,440 --> 01:59:37,480
Speaker 1: what what did I thought about it? He was like,

2295
01:59:38,040 --> 01:59:40,920
Speaker 1: I got fifteen interviews over the drink chat and I

2296
01:59:41,040 --> 01:59:41,400
Speaker 1: was just like.

2297
01:59:41,440 --> 01:59:45,480
Speaker 4: What, You're right, but the certain way say it like

2298
01:59:45,600 --> 01:59:47,920
Speaker 4: that the two parts you write about that because if

2299
01:59:47,960 --> 01:59:51,840
Speaker 4: your name, that means everybody heard it. Anybody who's normy.

2300
01:59:51,920 --> 01:59:55,960
Speaker 1: Right, remember Tino Excel, like who was? Yeah?

2301
01:59:56,120 --> 02:00:00,800
Speaker 3: But I remember everyone inquiring about Gino Excel because Tupac

2302
02:00:00,960 --> 02:00:03,480
Speaker 3: disst them, and Tupac was like show and you know

2303
02:00:03,560 --> 02:00:07,080
Speaker 3: it's like Xcel fuck you too, who fucks you know ourselves?

2304
02:00:07,240 --> 02:00:09,040
Speaker 3: And everybody went and I don't know if she and

2305
02:00:09,200 --> 02:00:14,240
Speaker 3: Xcel nigga for a week and I love but I

2306
02:00:14,360 --> 02:00:17,040
Speaker 3: remember people who didn't know about hip hop was like

2307
02:00:17,720 --> 02:00:20,440
Speaker 3: Google was at that time, it wasn't Google back then.

2308
02:00:20,560 --> 02:00:21,640
Speaker 1: Whatever Google wasn't the time.

2309
02:00:21,680 --> 02:00:23,640
Speaker 2: It was like, yeah, but it doesn't.

2310
02:00:23,360 --> 02:00:25,320
Speaker 1: Always end that well, so we got to be honest

2311
02:00:25,320 --> 02:00:27,440
Speaker 1: about that point. It doesn't always. Yes, it's true.

2312
02:00:27,920 --> 02:00:31,440
Speaker 4: In sidebar, I got the runs. You know what I was.

2313
02:00:32,200 --> 02:00:36,360
Speaker 4: I was shipping from six o'clock to like eight thirty. Seriously,

2314
02:00:36,400 --> 02:00:38,960
Speaker 4: this is crazy, and I got the bummer gus now

2315
02:00:40,120 --> 02:00:42,120
Speaker 4: all another I got to b g and I don't

2316
02:00:42,160 --> 02:00:45,480
Speaker 4: know what what part that would get up because you

2317
02:00:45,520 --> 02:00:48,640
Speaker 4: went up whatever, I know, but my other ship is

2318
02:00:48,680 --> 02:00:50,240
Speaker 4: coming here trying to put it on me was like,

2319
02:00:50,280 --> 02:00:50,920
Speaker 4: you gotta take.

2320
02:00:52,320 --> 02:00:54,280
Speaker 2: I was just letting I know this avoided because.

2321
02:00:54,160 --> 02:00:54,480
Speaker 1: You want to.

2322
02:00:56,400 --> 02:00:58,800
Speaker 4: K got a great victice like, no, I get it.

2323
02:00:58,960 --> 02:01:02,280
Speaker 4: I'm not scared to do that shop in public. I'm

2324
02:01:02,320 --> 02:01:06,400
Speaker 4: not saying the bag that I was since six thirty

2325
02:01:07,440 --> 02:01:09,200
Speaker 4: and I figured that, you know what, damn, I get

2326
02:01:09,240 --> 02:01:14,240
Speaker 4: to drink Champs and Champs. What happened was that I

2327
02:01:14,320 --> 02:01:17,360
Speaker 4: hate some watermelon and because if you eat something else

2328
02:01:18,800 --> 02:01:20,840
Speaker 4: is come and you gotta be careful. You got to

2329
02:01:20,880 --> 02:01:21,360
Speaker 4: be careful with.

2330
02:01:21,400 --> 02:01:23,080
Speaker 2: That before you go to the back of Actally, just

2331
02:01:23,160 --> 02:01:23,480
Speaker 2: one question.

2332
02:01:23,600 --> 02:01:24,400
Speaker 4: I'm not going to go right now.

2333
02:01:24,440 --> 02:01:25,560
Speaker 3: But business.

2334
02:01:26,160 --> 02:01:27,880
Speaker 2: I got to say a second too. It could be.

2335
02:01:29,400 --> 02:01:32,160
Speaker 3: We don't want to record hostile. There's always been that part.

2336
02:01:32,480 --> 02:01:36,920
Speaker 3: He's I got a right to be hostile, right, Who

2337
02:01:37,000 --> 02:01:37,600
Speaker 3: the fuck was that?

2338
02:01:37,680 --> 02:01:42,600
Speaker 4: That's from the public Enemy album at play? But somebody

2339
02:01:42,680 --> 02:01:46,480
Speaker 4: from that that's on that lawn. No, that's from the

2340
02:01:46,520 --> 02:01:51,160
Speaker 4: public Y albums right when it comes on from from

2341
02:01:51,240 --> 02:01:53,160
Speaker 4: Taking Taking? What's that?

2342
02:01:55,160 --> 02:01:55,400
Speaker 3: Damn?

2343
02:01:55,600 --> 02:01:57,680
Speaker 4: It's not without a pause. It's one of them records

2344
02:01:57,800 --> 02:02:02,680
Speaker 4: before that. I got it from there, not mar Lauren. No,

2345
02:02:03,040 --> 02:02:08,560
Speaker 4: not Flavor you know Flavors boys, you would I thought

2346
02:02:08,600 --> 02:02:13,720
Speaker 4: it could have been could have been Grie right, yeah,

2347
02:02:13,920 --> 02:02:16,080
Speaker 4: I wasn't fall Who was.

2348
02:02:16,200 --> 02:02:20,320
Speaker 1: Who was your biggest influence in hip hop before you.

2349
02:02:20,400 --> 02:02:21,560
Speaker 3: Got on run?

2350
02:02:23,080 --> 02:02:25,040
Speaker 2: And then the number one number.

2351
02:02:24,800 --> 02:02:26,600
Speaker 4: One and the niggas and the niggas around the way,

2352
02:02:26,800 --> 02:02:29,240
Speaker 4: like from the Nigga on the way, Yeah, some dude

2353
02:02:29,320 --> 02:02:33,240
Speaker 4: named Burgermeister and some dude named Amazing these guys. Was

2354
02:02:33,600 --> 02:02:35,240
Speaker 4: was the one that was in the neighborhood. But this

2355
02:02:35,360 --> 02:02:36,600
Speaker 4: kid named Frankie.

2356
02:02:37,800 --> 02:02:40,760
Speaker 2: It was done Ellen. I remember these.

2357
02:02:40,640 --> 02:02:42,520
Speaker 4: People, man, like when when I'm coming back with my names,

2358
02:02:42,720 --> 02:02:43,280
Speaker 4: these guys.

2359
02:02:43,240 --> 02:02:44,920
Speaker 2: Was somebody's special, you know.

2360
02:02:45,360 --> 02:02:45,480
Speaker 1: Uh.

2361
02:02:46,160 --> 02:02:46,600
Speaker 2: One c.

2362
02:02:48,400 --> 02:02:54,360
Speaker 4: H my boy Patrick, Like, this is where I was

2363
02:02:54,440 --> 02:02:57,680
Speaker 4: able to get my ship from from the neighborhood. First,

2364
02:02:58,200 --> 02:03:01,200
Speaker 4: before Rappers of Light came out, like he writes the

2365
02:03:01,280 --> 02:03:05,000
Speaker 4: music right, rappers like came out and turned my whole

2366
02:03:05,000 --> 02:03:05,560
Speaker 4: ship around.

2367
02:03:05,680 --> 02:03:08,840
Speaker 2: But before that, it was these niggas, you know, just

2368
02:03:08,920 --> 02:03:10,000
Speaker 2: around the way to fit right.

2369
02:03:10,240 --> 02:03:10,600
Speaker 3: M hm.

2370
02:03:11,520 --> 02:03:13,120
Speaker 2: Did you ever think hip hop and make it this far?

2371
02:03:14,440 --> 02:03:15,160
Speaker 2: I know it's a cliche.

2372
02:03:15,560 --> 02:03:20,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, you sound like the record. Listen, all I want

2373
02:03:20,440 --> 02:03:22,400
Speaker 4: to do is go on the radio, so nothing else

2374
02:03:22,440 --> 02:03:25,040
Speaker 4: really matter. Nobody don't think about that. That's crazy a

2375
02:03:25,120 --> 02:03:26,040
Speaker 4: song called crossover.

2376
02:03:26,800 --> 02:03:27,800
Speaker 2: No, this is before that.

2377
02:03:29,120 --> 02:03:30,960
Speaker 4: When you first start, you don't care about the That's

2378
02:03:30,960 --> 02:03:33,720
Speaker 4: why seventh thing didn't matter. I got some feet that

2379
02:03:33,760 --> 02:03:36,080
Speaker 4: I went to Marshalls and went to King Collen. I

2380
02:03:36,160 --> 02:03:37,880
Speaker 4: got groceries from my moms and went to Marshals.

2381
02:03:37,880 --> 02:03:44,480
Speaker 2: And you can get your best gear at Marshall's. See

2382
02:03:44,560 --> 02:03:45,720
Speaker 2: that's that's Queen's.

2383
02:03:46,040 --> 02:03:48,600
Speaker 4: You know. Nig tried to get me your left back mall.

2384
02:03:48,960 --> 02:03:52,320
Speaker 2: Oh queens and them all, Yeah, what happened, yo?

2385
02:03:52,480 --> 02:03:53,920
Speaker 4: Niggas tried to get me. I went to go see

2386
02:03:53,960 --> 02:03:56,560
Speaker 4: this this chick. They try to rob you and She's like, Yo,

2387
02:03:56,800 --> 02:03:58,320
Speaker 4: you gotta leave them all. I said, what say, niggas

2388
02:03:58,320 --> 02:03:59,200
Speaker 4: gonna be just trying to get you.

2389
02:04:00,040 --> 02:04:00,200
Speaker 3: Damn.

2390
02:04:00,440 --> 02:04:05,520
Speaker 4: That's why queens like that, like not like that, na

2391
02:04:05,880 --> 02:04:07,880
Speaker 4: far as me. Like when I was when I was

2392
02:04:07,960 --> 02:04:12,200
Speaker 4: doing my rounds, it was mostly Brooklyn, Manhattan and the Bronx.

2393
02:04:12,840 --> 02:04:14,440
Speaker 4: But since that shit happened to me, nigga tried to

2394
02:04:14,440 --> 02:04:15,800
Speaker 4: get me going back there.

2395
02:04:17,280 --> 02:04:20,040
Speaker 2: Jesus Man left Racklet's make.

2396
02:04:22,440 --> 02:04:25,160
Speaker 4: Because crazy because when you get off right from the

2397
02:04:25,360 --> 02:04:28,840
Speaker 4: l A, you go down there whatever whatever, and I'm like,

2398
02:04:29,040 --> 02:04:30,600
Speaker 4: the girls said you got to get out of here.

2399
02:04:31,000 --> 02:04:31,920
Speaker 4: I'm like, what do you mean?

2400
02:04:32,440 --> 02:04:33,200
Speaker 2: Did they come to get you?

2401
02:04:33,360 --> 02:04:36,800
Speaker 3: The malls gentified now? Yeah, the malls gentified now yeah,

2402
02:04:37,280 --> 02:04:43,440
Speaker 3: it wasn't. Just So, what is your favorite part of

2403
02:04:43,480 --> 02:04:45,840
Speaker 3: the game? Is it making the record or performing the record?

2404
02:04:46,520 --> 02:04:47,000
Speaker 3: What do you mean?

2405
02:04:47,800 --> 02:04:50,360
Speaker 2: Like is it you you put in the studio? Like

2406
02:04:51,640 --> 02:04:52,720
Speaker 2: making the songs is better?

2407
02:04:52,920 --> 02:04:53,040
Speaker 3: You know?

2408
02:04:53,800 --> 02:04:53,960
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2409
02:04:54,000 --> 02:04:57,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, like I said, for I I enjoy

2410
02:04:57,880 --> 02:05:00,960
Speaker 4: hearing what this record sounds like when when I'm producing

2411
02:05:01,400 --> 02:05:04,520
Speaker 4: an artist. So you know, making those Redman records is fun.

2412
02:05:04,960 --> 02:05:07,680
Speaker 4: Making Meth records was fun. Making Keep Merry Records fun

2413
02:05:07,880 --> 02:05:10,320
Speaker 4: making EPM D Ship was fun though, too, But they

2414
02:05:10,360 --> 02:05:12,560
Speaker 4: don't forget I you know, I don't. Did you know

2415
02:05:12,800 --> 02:05:17,040
Speaker 4: the jay Z's the fucking the scarfaces, you know, having

2416
02:05:17,120 --> 02:05:19,720
Speaker 4: four three two one and having these type of stuff,

2417
02:05:19,760 --> 02:05:22,080
Speaker 4: you know, these records that's out there was fun.

2418
02:05:22,280 --> 02:05:22,440
Speaker 8: You know.

2419
02:05:23,000 --> 02:05:26,040
Speaker 4: Doing R and B was fun. You know, I did

2420
02:05:26,160 --> 02:05:27,920
Speaker 4: much R and B and I did hip hop music.

2421
02:05:28,360 --> 02:05:30,520
Speaker 4: But don't you know, you don't people don't see me

2422
02:05:30,600 --> 02:05:32,320
Speaker 4: and be like, oh, yeah, I did the Angelo, I

2423
02:05:32,400 --> 02:05:35,880
Speaker 4: did Chicle, the Barge, I did these people. You know,

2424
02:05:35,960 --> 02:05:38,800
Speaker 4: you look at all these groups that people it's like,

2425
02:05:39,080 --> 02:05:41,560
Speaker 4: wa have to say, google me. But at the end

2426
02:05:41,600 --> 02:05:43,040
Speaker 4: of the day, it's like you could say that you

2427
02:05:43,200 --> 02:05:46,280
Speaker 4: did this, but like like know you're saying, I can't

2428
02:05:46,320 --> 02:05:49,440
Speaker 4: say it a nigga. You ain't me, right, Like the

2429
02:05:49,560 --> 02:05:51,320
Speaker 4: niggas ain't me this. Niggas ain't do what I did

2430
02:05:51,840 --> 02:05:55,720
Speaker 4: now not what I did. But again there's nobody. I

2431
02:05:55,800 --> 02:05:58,680
Speaker 4: don't bark, so there's no vocals, no vocals to be

2432
02:05:58,800 --> 02:06:02,560
Speaker 4: able to say, yo. You know, I'm like the underrated nigga,

2433
02:06:02,920 --> 02:06:04,400
Speaker 4: but not the underrated nigga, you know.

2434
02:06:04,400 --> 02:06:04,800
Speaker 2: What I'm saying.

2435
02:06:04,840 --> 02:06:08,280
Speaker 4: But when it comes down to me doing rap, music,

2436
02:06:08,360 --> 02:06:11,600
Speaker 4: but doing R and B two right because they had

2437
02:06:11,680 --> 02:06:17,080
Speaker 4: the opportunities of groups that came to me for your

2438
02:06:17,160 --> 02:06:19,720
Speaker 4: your era of producing R and B. I'm talking about

2439
02:06:19,720 --> 02:06:21,880
Speaker 4: the ones, the groups that I would have had that

2440
02:06:22,000 --> 02:06:24,800
Speaker 4: you could have been behind one hundred percent. Ray Korn,

2441
02:06:24,880 --> 02:06:26,360
Speaker 4: I could have had that. I could have had the

2442
02:06:26,400 --> 02:06:30,000
Speaker 4: Wu Tang clan. What wait, wait, wait, go back, I

2443
02:06:30,040 --> 02:06:33,880
Speaker 4: could have had game. You're going too fast, way too fast.

2444
02:06:34,440 --> 02:06:37,200
Speaker 4: Go back to Ray What do you mean you could

2445
02:06:37,200 --> 02:06:39,920
Speaker 4: have had? Could have had on They showed the show

2446
02:06:39,960 --> 02:06:41,840
Speaker 4: he's this all this stuff and that this is all

2447
02:06:42,040 --> 02:06:45,680
Speaker 4: documented forget. But again, had his father had a church,

2448
02:06:45,880 --> 02:06:46,880
Speaker 4: you should be sitting here, bro.

2449
02:06:47,800 --> 02:06:48,120
Speaker 1: We don't.

2450
02:06:49,160 --> 02:06:52,640
Speaker 4: As far as he drunk without drinking, he had a

2451
02:06:52,720 --> 02:06:55,040
Speaker 4: church of Staaten Allen. But now it took me to

2452
02:06:55,400 --> 02:06:59,760
Speaker 4: an apartment in park Hill and the Wu Tang clan

2453
02:06:59,800 --> 02:07:03,280
Speaker 4: before day was Wu Tang clan was out there. I

2454
02:07:03,360 --> 02:07:05,840
Speaker 4: got a picture that's going over that we can't find

2455
02:07:06,200 --> 02:07:08,560
Speaker 4: me on my eye rock with all them in the

2456
02:07:09,040 --> 02:07:13,040
Speaker 4: on the irack and me before the Wu Tang Clan.

2457
02:07:13,480 --> 02:07:16,760
Speaker 4: Now I take a walk to Ray Korn steps of

2458
02:07:16,920 --> 02:07:19,480
Speaker 4: his apartment. His name was Sha Lah at the time.

2459
02:07:19,560 --> 02:07:22,160
Speaker 4: Whatever he sit down there. He tells them the interview

2460
02:07:22,360 --> 02:07:23,480
Speaker 4: I almost signed with Eric.

2461
02:07:25,200 --> 02:07:28,000
Speaker 2: Oh, so before Wu Tang launches, yes this, they ain't

2462
02:07:28,040 --> 02:07:30,880
Speaker 2: even know they know Wu Tang clan.

2463
02:07:31,000 --> 02:07:31,760
Speaker 4: Yes eighty nine.

2464
02:07:33,040 --> 02:07:36,000
Speaker 1: So this is your same thing with Biggie. Biggie's around you.

2465
02:07:36,400 --> 02:07:39,760
Speaker 1: You don't know Ray none.

2466
02:07:39,840 --> 02:07:45,400
Speaker 4: Ludicris the game, all of them fifty You saw Coury

2467
02:07:45,440 --> 02:07:48,360
Speaker 4: when he tells that niggas coming fifty centers like how

2468
02:07:48,440 --> 02:07:50,800
Speaker 4: to rob is out whatever, such and such and now

2469
02:07:50,880 --> 02:07:52,320
Speaker 4: he got to figure out what to do with him.

2470
02:07:52,320 --> 02:07:54,040
Speaker 4: And he knocked on my door because he looked next

2471
02:07:54,040 --> 02:07:56,640
Speaker 4: door to me, and he says, Yo, Eric, and you

2472
02:07:56,720 --> 02:07:58,400
Speaker 4: know need to take care of this for me. You

2473
02:07:58,480 --> 02:08:01,320
Speaker 4: gotta take care of him. That's why I did. You

2474
02:08:01,400 --> 02:08:04,200
Speaker 4: don't do it like we do. You on the goddamn record,

2475
02:08:04,480 --> 02:08:05,600
Speaker 4: God damn.

2476
02:08:07,080 --> 02:08:10,040
Speaker 2: This this soilber drunk. Eric Sermon's out of control.

2477
02:08:12,200 --> 02:08:12,320
Speaker 1: Yo.

2478
02:08:12,960 --> 02:08:15,320
Speaker 2: So let me ask you, does that make you paranoid?

2479
02:08:16,560 --> 02:08:19,480
Speaker 4: Niggas out like we do? Next thing? You know, he

2480
02:08:19,600 --> 02:08:20,680
Speaker 4: gets shot, But.

2481
02:08:20,760 --> 02:08:23,120
Speaker 1: Does that make you paranoid that any artists you come

2482
02:08:23,160 --> 02:08:25,600
Speaker 1: across might be the next one but you're not seeing it.

2483
02:08:26,720 --> 02:08:29,960
Speaker 4: I turned down nas, I turned down the Fujis. I

2484
02:08:30,080 --> 02:08:32,920
Speaker 4: turned down. Fucking this this Olban's artists.

2485
02:08:33,120 --> 02:08:35,120
Speaker 2: Don't turn down. Looks sunny, he's about to give you

2486
02:08:35,160 --> 02:08:35,560
Speaker 2: a demo.

2487
02:08:36,920 --> 02:08:37,680
Speaker 1: Turn down.

2488
02:08:40,960 --> 02:08:42,080
Speaker 2: Look he's got the jewels.

2489
02:08:43,680 --> 02:08:45,280
Speaker 1: Yo, I'm gonna take a break.

2490
02:08:46,480 --> 02:08:47,240
Speaker 2: I got his next.

2491
02:08:47,800 --> 02:08:50,600
Speaker 4: It's a part to where like some parts of mistakes

2492
02:08:50,680 --> 02:08:52,720
Speaker 4: I made in my life, the mistakes I wish I

2493
02:08:52,760 --> 02:08:56,000
Speaker 4: would have been able to to know that, to hear

2494
02:08:56,080 --> 02:08:59,120
Speaker 4: what Nas was saying, because again, that was the Illmatic

2495
02:08:59,200 --> 02:08:59,880
Speaker 4: album and I had.

2496
02:08:59,840 --> 02:09:03,320
Speaker 1: No idea prior to him doing So okay, wait, what

2497
02:09:03,600 --> 02:09:05,920
Speaker 1: what part of NAS do you meet him?

2498
02:09:06,000 --> 02:09:06,320
Speaker 6: Is it like?

2499
02:09:07,160 --> 02:09:09,840
Speaker 4: This is this is producing ill madic, I'm coming for

2500
02:09:09,920 --> 02:09:12,200
Speaker 4: you to be a producer, right and you just didn't

2501
02:09:12,800 --> 02:09:15,320
Speaker 4: I did, But I did. I did see less records.

2502
02:09:15,600 --> 02:09:18,080
Speaker 4: I wasn't paying attention to him, like, oh you didn't

2503
02:09:18,080 --> 02:09:18,640
Speaker 4: give them you all?

2504
02:09:18,920 --> 02:09:18,960
Speaker 6: No?

2505
02:09:19,600 --> 02:09:19,880
Speaker 1: Wow?

2506
02:09:20,520 --> 02:09:20,560
Speaker 6: No?

2507
02:09:22,800 --> 02:09:24,400
Speaker 4: And after he left me, but no, I took him

2508
02:09:24,400 --> 02:09:37,160
Speaker 4: to Pete Rock at least his job, Yo. I did.

2509
02:09:37,360 --> 02:09:39,600
Speaker 4: I did records with him, like like three songs, you know,

2510
02:09:39,880 --> 02:09:42,160
Speaker 4: So you were just being what argant at the time,

2511
02:09:42,600 --> 02:09:46,160
Speaker 4: It wasn't that, don't because I had my own artists, right,

2512
02:09:46,640 --> 02:09:49,000
Speaker 4: and my head squad's already happening at that time.

2513
02:09:49,280 --> 02:09:53,200
Speaker 2: Yes, so I don't. I can't hear what queens.

2514
02:09:53,320 --> 02:09:55,680
Speaker 4: I'm from Long Island, so I don't know about Queen's

2515
02:09:55,760 --> 02:09:58,440
Speaker 4: Bridge and the type of struggle when the whole that

2516
02:09:58,480 --> 02:10:02,920
Speaker 4: shit my niggas obvious about get bound and you know,

2517
02:10:03,960 --> 02:10:09,480
Speaker 4: then uh yes, bump, and then Reggie got as bitch,

2518
02:10:09,560 --> 02:10:11,880
Speaker 4: and then Murray's over here, like you know, so all

2519
02:10:11,960 --> 02:10:13,240
Speaker 4: this is too much.

2520
02:10:13,280 --> 02:10:16,080
Speaker 1: Right right now, we're all looking in retrospects, so it's

2521
02:10:16,080 --> 02:10:17,120
Speaker 1: easy to say that now.

2522
02:10:17,320 --> 02:10:18,360
Speaker 2: But I get it now.

2523
02:10:18,400 --> 02:10:21,240
Speaker 1: In that landscape, you had the top tier artist already.

2524
02:10:21,560 --> 02:10:22,120
Speaker 1: It wasn't.

2525
02:10:23,480 --> 02:10:26,640
Speaker 2: If I would like if I if he had this,

2526
02:10:27,000 --> 02:10:29,720
Speaker 2: the same type of stuff that you.

2527
02:10:29,760 --> 02:10:32,240
Speaker 1: Know, he turned out. I heard that he said he

2528
02:10:32,320 --> 02:10:34,440
Speaker 1: gave He gave me seedless beats.

2529
02:10:34,520 --> 02:10:36,280
Speaker 2: He said, hey, you can just throw away.

2530
02:10:36,480 --> 02:10:37,080
Speaker 3: He didn't believe.

2531
02:10:38,120 --> 02:10:40,800
Speaker 2: He just he just rhymed on what I gave him.

2532
02:10:40,840 --> 02:10:42,680
Speaker 4: But I knew it. It wasn't strong. He didn't give

2533
02:10:42,720 --> 02:10:52,120
Speaker 4: him his best, Yeah, because I didn't understand it. But

2534
02:10:52,240 --> 02:10:56,480
Speaker 4: the coolest nigga in the planet, Oh my god, we again,

2535
02:10:56,760 --> 02:10:58,680
Speaker 4: it was so long ago. I don't even know if

2536
02:10:58,720 --> 02:11:03,120
Speaker 4: he if he would remember how the sessions went, but again, whatever,

2537
02:11:03,640 --> 02:11:05,600
Speaker 4: he just he rocked on what I gave him.

2538
02:11:06,000 --> 02:11:08,240
Speaker 1: But you weren't ad the sessions, were you what you

2539
02:11:08,320 --> 02:11:10,320
Speaker 1: weren't being a dick in the session. No, hell no,

2540
02:11:10,560 --> 02:11:12,560
Speaker 1: you just to give him your best. I just wasn't

2541
02:11:12,560 --> 02:11:12,960
Speaker 1: pay attient.

2542
02:11:13,160 --> 02:11:15,560
Speaker 4: I didn't like do the natural thing that you do

2543
02:11:15,680 --> 02:11:17,840
Speaker 4: in the studio where you're making records and you like

2544
02:11:18,400 --> 02:11:19,120
Speaker 4: it happened like that.

2545
02:11:20,080 --> 02:11:22,160
Speaker 1: It was lost pro, it was you. It was you

2546
02:11:22,520 --> 02:11:23,560
Speaker 1: was lost pro.

2547
02:11:24,120 --> 02:11:26,320
Speaker 3: He took him to Rock after him, he took him

2548
02:11:26,320 --> 02:11:26,840
Speaker 3: to pe Rock.

2549
02:11:31,200 --> 02:11:35,520
Speaker 4: I love this story and then then again again but no,

2550
02:11:35,840 --> 02:11:36,720
Speaker 4: I mean the Foojie is.

2551
02:11:36,680 --> 02:11:39,680
Speaker 1: And I was like, you're like Jersey, I don't know

2552
02:11:39,680 --> 02:11:40,360
Speaker 1: about Jersey's.

2553
02:11:40,800 --> 02:11:42,920
Speaker 3: No, this this wasn't right because it was Haitians with

2554
02:11:43,000 --> 02:11:43,720
Speaker 3: Jamaica accents.

2555
02:11:43,800 --> 02:11:51,880
Speaker 4: No, if it wasn't, If it wasn't for I think

2556
02:11:51,960 --> 02:11:55,640
Speaker 4: Salon Remy bro that changed the game.

2557
02:11:55,760 --> 02:12:00,440
Speaker 1: If I would have had but that REMI no, no, no,

2558
02:12:00,520 --> 02:12:01,640
Speaker 1: that was boom back.

2559
02:12:01,800 --> 02:12:01,920
Speaker 6: Was it?

2560
02:12:02,440 --> 02:12:04,400
Speaker 4: How many mics? Right? How many mics?

2561
02:12:04,920 --> 02:12:06,560
Speaker 2: How many many man that one?

2562
02:12:06,680 --> 02:12:08,840
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah? That whatever that remix was, it changed the

2563
02:12:08,880 --> 02:12:11,640
Speaker 1: game for DJ Buddy, It changed everybody's.

2564
02:12:11,480 --> 02:12:18,000
Speaker 2: Because again, in the beginning of it wasn't Wow, Oh

2565
02:12:18,080 --> 02:12:19,200
Speaker 2: so you had Salon do it?

2566
02:12:25,960 --> 02:12:28,160
Speaker 6: What k.

2567
02:12:29,880 --> 02:12:33,080
Speaker 1: Oh, Yeah he did just so sorry, Yeah that's here

2568
02:12:33,120 --> 02:12:34,520
Speaker 1: he's he's right here in the backyard.

2569
02:12:34,600 --> 02:12:36,879
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, there.

2570
02:12:38,800 --> 02:12:38,840
Speaker 1: Not.

2571
02:12:38,960 --> 02:12:41,760
Speaker 2: But my boy brought me game to the to the

2572
02:12:42,120 --> 02:12:43,440
Speaker 2: to the Fox Hills.

2573
02:12:43,240 --> 02:12:46,960
Speaker 3: Mall, and and and in l A. You shopping in

2574
02:12:47,000 --> 02:12:47,680
Speaker 3: fox Hills Mall.

2575
02:12:47,720 --> 02:12:48,400
Speaker 1: That's the hood mall?

2576
02:12:48,920 --> 02:12:50,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, but no, he was in New York.

2577
02:12:50,840 --> 02:12:51,160
Speaker 1: Is coming.

2578
02:12:51,200 --> 02:12:52,960
Speaker 4: I stopped, all right, so.

2579
02:12:54,720 --> 02:12:59,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, that's your next sortist. Remember, don't don't

2580
02:12:59,560 --> 02:13:03,080
Speaker 2: skip out. You're gonna regret that. You regret this guy.

2581
02:13:03,520 --> 02:13:07,720
Speaker 2: So he comes, he comes in right. I talked to him.

2582
02:13:07,880 --> 02:13:10,600
Speaker 4: I said, yo, spinning sixteen real quick. He didn't know

2583
02:13:10,640 --> 02:13:15,920
Speaker 4: what the sixteen ball was game? Right, So when he

2584
02:13:15,960 --> 02:13:17,520
Speaker 4: told the story, he says that I was gonna sound

2585
02:13:17,560 --> 02:13:19,800
Speaker 4: with Eric, but he wasn't ready, so I sound with fifth.

2586
02:13:23,440 --> 02:13:24,080
Speaker 3: So what happened?

2587
02:13:24,200 --> 02:13:26,120
Speaker 2: He spit to sixteen? He didn't do it?

2588
02:13:26,280 --> 02:13:26,480
Speaker 3: He did.

2589
02:13:26,560 --> 02:13:28,200
Speaker 4: I know, he spent Ryan, but he didn't know.

2590
02:13:28,240 --> 02:13:32,600
Speaker 2: What You didn't see the talent?

2591
02:13:32,920 --> 02:13:34,720
Speaker 4: Oh yeah he was. The game was a game, So

2592
02:13:34,840 --> 02:13:37,120
Speaker 4: that was your game. That was the game changing for you.

2593
02:13:37,200 --> 02:13:39,720
Speaker 4: That he didn't know the sixteen No, I just didn't.

2594
02:13:39,720 --> 02:13:42,360
Speaker 4: I just wasn't like I said, poor. I just told you, man,

2595
02:13:42,400 --> 02:13:43,280
Speaker 4: I'm already doing me.

2596
02:13:43,640 --> 02:13:44,840
Speaker 2: You just was not into it.

2597
02:13:45,160 --> 02:13:48,560
Speaker 4: It wasn't that I'm already doing like I'm out there,

2598
02:13:49,320 --> 02:13:52,240
Speaker 4: you're stretched in. No, just the fact that my mine's not.

2599
02:13:52,640 --> 02:13:55,200
Speaker 4: I'm already like you said, be poor, not that niggas

2600
02:13:55,280 --> 02:13:58,760
Speaker 4: wasn't ill. I just wasn't. I was doing some other ship.

2601
02:13:59,080 --> 02:14:00,000
Speaker 4: My mom was someplace else.

2602
02:14:00,080 --> 02:14:00,200
Speaker 8: Us.

2603
02:14:01,160 --> 02:14:01,800
Speaker 1: It had to be.

2604
02:14:04,560 --> 02:14:10,480
Speaker 4: The mississ the Missus Murray, the Missus Keith Murray.

2605
02:14:11,000 --> 02:14:15,120
Speaker 3: I'm ready for it, come back, sir.

2606
02:14:16,480 --> 02:14:20,040
Speaker 4: When we come back Murray at the end, at the

2607
02:14:20,120 --> 02:14:22,240
Speaker 4: end of the day, at the end of.

2608
02:14:22,200 --> 02:14:22,920
Speaker 2: The day too.

2609
02:14:24,680 --> 02:14:27,040
Speaker 4: And then when that nigga came, it was really a

2610
02:14:27,160 --> 02:14:31,200
Speaker 4: problem because again it was like, holy ship, who are you?

2611
02:14:32,000 --> 02:14:36,640
Speaker 4: Because don't forget I heard one line on Keith Murray.

2612
02:14:36,800 --> 02:14:38,320
Speaker 4: I heard one line on Red Man put them on

2613
02:14:38,400 --> 02:14:40,760
Speaker 4: stage that night. Don't forget. If niggas don't know about

2614
02:14:40,880 --> 02:14:43,280
Speaker 4: New New Jersey and Cluss Sensations.

2615
02:14:42,760 --> 02:14:44,280
Speaker 1: That's how you discover.

2616
02:14:45,160 --> 02:14:47,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to go do a show at Cosensations E.

2617
02:14:47,720 --> 02:14:51,760
Speaker 4: P and D and New York Brick City. A nine

2618
02:14:53,000 --> 02:14:55,960
Speaker 4: ninety smells like a lot of crack. No, but it

2619
02:14:56,120 --> 02:14:59,440
Speaker 4: was wall to wall, but they will rob you. Yeah,

2620
02:15:00,120 --> 02:15:02,160
Speaker 4: but again the respect lever coming part come in. So

2621
02:15:02,280 --> 02:15:05,000
Speaker 4: Reggie is brought in by do it All from those

2622
02:15:05,040 --> 02:15:07,960
Speaker 4: of undergrounds. He's not those underground yet, so do it

2623
02:15:08,000 --> 02:15:11,200
Speaker 4: All rhymes and he says, yo, my man rap, And

2624
02:15:11,280 --> 02:15:11,960
Speaker 4: then Reggie was.

2625
02:15:11,920 --> 02:15:14,960
Speaker 2: Like, that's not the mayor now right, do it all? Yeah? Yeah,

2626
02:15:15,080 --> 02:15:18,200
Speaker 2: he's the mayor now, not the mayor, he's an a councilman.

2627
02:15:19,160 --> 02:15:20,080
Speaker 2: I feel like that's the mayor.

2628
02:15:20,440 --> 02:15:24,320
Speaker 4: No, So Reggie said the rhyme like I felt like

2629
02:15:24,360 --> 02:15:27,680
Speaker 4: a butterfly stinging like the rock group. So he already

2630
02:15:27,760 --> 02:15:30,960
Speaker 4: had me because you're going to say like a be

2631
02:15:31,640 --> 02:15:34,000
Speaker 4: he didn't say that metaphor. So I put them on

2632
02:15:34,120 --> 02:15:36,840
Speaker 4: stage that night, didn't even know. I'm just freshly like whatever.

2633
02:15:36,840 --> 02:15:39,400
Speaker 4: It's like like, yo, what's Reggily doing? What's workman doing

2634
02:15:39,400 --> 02:15:41,400
Speaker 4: on the stage? But how you up there? But I

2635
02:15:41,440 --> 02:15:43,360
Speaker 4: already knew from the door that I was going to

2636
02:15:43,440 --> 02:15:46,600
Speaker 4: fuck with him because of the rhyme. Same thing with

2637
02:15:46,760 --> 02:15:50,240
Speaker 4: Keith Murray. I heard one line. He just says, let's

2638
02:15:50,240 --> 02:15:52,600
Speaker 4: squash the beef, cook it and we all can get fat.

2639
02:15:52,720 --> 02:15:55,280
Speaker 4: So now in my head, all I'm seeing is a

2640
02:15:55,320 --> 02:15:58,400
Speaker 4: hamburger inside of the firing passion.

2641
02:15:59,480 --> 02:15:59,920
Speaker 1: Raising the.

2642
02:16:01,680 --> 02:16:02,480
Speaker 2: To a hamburger.

2643
02:16:03,400 --> 02:16:05,840
Speaker 4: Let's squash the beef cooked, we all can get fat. Now,

2644
02:16:05,920 --> 02:16:09,280
Speaker 4: who the fuck is metaphorm like that? So again right,

2645
02:16:09,680 --> 02:16:13,040
Speaker 4: it's too far at fetched. So I knew what it was,

2646
02:16:13,280 --> 02:16:14,840
Speaker 4: you know, I knew from the door what it was.

2647
02:16:15,040 --> 02:16:17,720
Speaker 4: And I never you ever get demos or you play

2648
02:16:17,760 --> 02:16:19,760
Speaker 4: somebody who's somebody around for you and you hear about

2649
02:16:20,000 --> 02:16:21,640
Speaker 4: a couple of bars, and you know off the bat

2650
02:16:21,760 --> 02:16:25,280
Speaker 4: like yo, no he's not ill you know that they

2651
02:16:25,280 --> 02:16:26,560
Speaker 4: ain't gotta pay you off. But they put you the

2652
02:16:26,600 --> 02:16:29,040
Speaker 4: whole record because you gotta listen to it.

2653
02:16:29,120 --> 02:16:32,360
Speaker 3: Play the whole record, not with them, not with Red

2654
02:16:32,440 --> 02:16:36,480
Speaker 3: and Keep and dost Effects. We didn't get into dostap

2655
02:16:36,520 --> 02:16:38,320
Speaker 3: facts too much. Let's talk about.

2656
02:16:42,040 --> 02:16:44,600
Speaker 4: Well, we met them at a at their school at

2657
02:16:44,879 --> 02:16:47,959
Speaker 4: a rap contest Brooklyn. No, Virginia.

2658
02:16:48,840 --> 02:16:50,160
Speaker 3: Dost Effect is not from Brooklyn.

2659
02:16:50,680 --> 02:16:51,680
Speaker 2: You know, they went to college.

2660
02:16:52,800 --> 02:16:57,400
Speaker 1: That's the childhood Brooklyn from bookly one from Jersey.

2661
02:16:57,959 --> 02:16:59,200
Speaker 2: But they met in college.

2662
02:16:59,640 --> 02:17:01,480
Speaker 4: In college. They met in college and there was a

2663
02:17:01,560 --> 02:17:05,840
Speaker 4: rap contest and we let these other guys win because

2664
02:17:05,879 --> 02:17:08,880
Speaker 4: we knew that were going to fuck with them. Oh

2665
02:17:09,000 --> 02:17:13,560
Speaker 4: ship one hundred dollars. You let the other guys win. Yeah, okay,

2666
02:17:14,080 --> 02:17:16,600
Speaker 4: because we knew that they were going to eventually fuck

2667
02:17:16,680 --> 02:17:21,039
Speaker 4: with these guys, because the day was already to advance. Yes, wow,

2668
02:17:21,640 --> 02:17:24,080
Speaker 4: there was advanced that did that that. You see what happened?

2669
02:17:25,240 --> 02:17:27,280
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, they was

2670
02:17:28,080 --> 02:17:30,680
Speaker 4: they was ready, you know, for some reason, they were

2671
02:17:30,760 --> 02:17:34,680
Speaker 4: just ready, you know. And and Sylvia Romes. So Sylvias

2672
02:17:34,720 --> 02:17:38,680
Speaker 4: signed all those people that's different, you know, Buster Rhymes,

2673
02:17:38,800 --> 02:17:43,000
Speaker 4: Missy Elliott's Effects case Solo, like everybody that was different.

2674
02:17:43,240 --> 02:17:46,400
Speaker 4: Sylvia signed all those people who were just like different

2675
02:17:46,440 --> 02:17:49,560
Speaker 4: that people would be like, yeah, yeah she did.

2676
02:17:49,720 --> 02:17:57,160
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah for Sylvia wrong. Yeah, woman, strong black women

2677
02:17:57,240 --> 02:17:59,680
Speaker 3: out there still getting it too, still getting it still

2678
02:18:01,040 --> 02:18:02,160
Speaker 3: hold on, let me get to my notes.

2679
02:18:03,240 --> 02:18:05,680
Speaker 2: So y'all discuss Keith Murray already? No, man?

2680
02:18:06,160 --> 02:18:06,600
Speaker 6: What what?

2681
02:18:06,959 --> 02:18:07,760
Speaker 4: What? What is it?

2682
02:18:07,840 --> 02:18:07,960
Speaker 6: You know?

2683
02:18:08,160 --> 02:18:10,920
Speaker 1: I want to just talk about just how you just

2684
02:18:11,080 --> 02:18:13,920
Speaker 1: talking about do effects the meeting Keith Murray because he

2685
02:18:14,040 --> 02:18:16,640
Speaker 1: was post uh his squad.

2686
02:18:17,040 --> 02:18:19,680
Speaker 2: He wasn't in his squad. No, he wasn't death squad, right,

2687
02:18:20,320 --> 02:18:21,240
Speaker 2: So what was that?

2688
02:18:21,520 --> 02:18:22,080
Speaker 1: How did that beg?

2689
02:18:22,240 --> 02:18:24,040
Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean of course it was like in the beginning,

2690
02:18:24,120 --> 02:18:28,039
Speaker 4: nobody wanted to listen. Nobody wanted to sign Dos Effects again,

2691
02:18:28,120 --> 02:18:30,240
Speaker 4: but no, I went out there and that's why nobody

2692
02:18:30,280 --> 02:18:33,040
Speaker 4: wanted to sign them because nobody definitely didn't like him

2693
02:18:33,920 --> 02:18:35,359
Speaker 4: deaf like red Man either.

2694
02:18:36,680 --> 02:18:37,840
Speaker 1: That's crazy man.

2695
02:18:38,440 --> 02:18:39,880
Speaker 2: He's like a death jam child.

2696
02:18:40,480 --> 02:18:42,800
Speaker 4: And then Leo called in like then like Keith Murray.

2697
02:18:43,200 --> 02:18:45,760
Speaker 4: So that's why Keith Murray was no on death sham job.

2698
02:18:45,879 --> 02:18:46,840
Speaker 1: He was on job y.

2699
02:18:47,560 --> 02:18:51,200
Speaker 4: But Russell was pissed because Russell didn't know that Leo

2700
02:18:51,400 --> 02:18:52,600
Speaker 4: had turned down Keith Murray.

2701
02:18:52,680 --> 02:18:55,760
Speaker 2: So they're not always right. Let's be honest, we've.

2702
02:18:55,560 --> 02:18:57,840
Speaker 1: Been I'm just saying you guys were.

2703
02:18:57,840 --> 02:18:58,920
Speaker 2: Saying how much how right there?

2704
02:18:59,320 --> 02:19:00,039
Speaker 1: They're not all.

2705
02:19:01,959 --> 02:19:05,080
Speaker 4: But when Keith Murray was in prison and it came home,

2706
02:19:05,480 --> 02:19:08,039
Speaker 4: they gave him two point eight million dollars job or.

2707
02:19:08,480 --> 02:19:09,039
Speaker 1: A death jam.

2708
02:19:09,120 --> 02:19:10,879
Speaker 3: I was on that, I was, I was on tour.

2709
02:19:10,959 --> 02:19:12,160
Speaker 2: I was on tour with Keith Murray.

2710
02:19:12,480 --> 02:19:16,280
Speaker 4: So I don't forget that. The can you imagine Jay?

2711
02:19:16,480 --> 02:19:18,640
Speaker 4: None of them got no no deal like that. Nobody

2712
02:19:18,800 --> 02:19:21,680
Speaker 4: made no he's got no deal like Murray got coming

2713
02:19:21,720 --> 02:19:25,400
Speaker 4: home from prison three years from prison two point seven

2714
02:19:25,520 --> 02:19:28,600
Speaker 4: million dollars at that time. Right, that's crazy, And they

2715
02:19:28,680 --> 02:19:31,280
Speaker 4: gave job the six hundred and Murray kept the rest.

2716
02:19:31,840 --> 02:19:35,880
Speaker 4: Wow the contract. Get him out of the Contray, I

2717
02:19:35,879 --> 02:19:38,800
Speaker 4: don't forget. So now you got fatty girl coming special

2718
02:19:38,920 --> 02:19:42,600
Speaker 4: delivery like this is this niggas you expect she's about

2719
02:19:42,640 --> 02:19:45,960
Speaker 4: to be He's back to back like this, Leil like, YO,

2720
02:19:46,520 --> 02:19:49,040
Speaker 4: give him that. So he ended up being that death

2721
02:19:49,120 --> 02:19:53,640
Speaker 4: jam later on two thousand and three. Later, but you

2722
02:19:53,720 --> 02:19:57,680
Speaker 4: know it happened. But in the beginning, Leo didn't tell

2723
02:19:58,040 --> 02:20:01,680
Speaker 4: Russell that he turned to start WOW.

2724
02:20:02,879 --> 02:20:07,000
Speaker 2: So suggests Keith, married, I got to you. You said

2725
02:20:07,000 --> 02:20:08,640
Speaker 2: you wanted to use You want him to come.

2726
02:20:09,000 --> 02:20:12,520
Speaker 3: I love to come on the show.

2727
02:20:13,320 --> 02:20:13,520
Speaker 4: We do.

2728
02:20:14,400 --> 02:20:16,119
Speaker 2: But wait, but I understand your point of view.

2729
02:20:19,240 --> 02:20:24,360
Speaker 3: Keith seeing me at El's rock the balls right sitting outside,

2730
02:20:24,480 --> 02:20:27,200
Speaker 3: what the one that just passed two years ago?

2731
02:20:27,280 --> 02:20:28,039
Speaker 1: This is two years ago.

2732
02:20:29,760 --> 02:20:34,880
Speaker 3: This is like post pandemic. I see Keith. Keith sees me,

2733
02:20:37,200 --> 02:20:39,560
Speaker 3: say what's up? But I'm waiting for my people to

2734
02:20:39,600 --> 02:20:43,000
Speaker 3: come in. So I'm waiting for my people to come in,

2735
02:20:43,040 --> 02:20:45,440
Speaker 3: and security stop me and they say, yo, see what

2736
02:20:45,640 --> 02:20:48,080
Speaker 3: you because I'm waiting for my people. So I'm like no,

2737
02:20:49,560 --> 02:20:52,520
Speaker 3: because I'm my people is coming down. Keith must have

2738
02:20:52,560 --> 02:20:55,800
Speaker 3: took it like I was saying, no, he's not with me.

2739
02:20:57,520 --> 02:21:00,320
Speaker 3: I kind of didn't say it like that. And I'm

2740
02:21:00,320 --> 02:21:06,400
Speaker 3: gonna tell you why I was in queensed. If I

2741
02:21:06,480 --> 02:21:09,760
Speaker 3: was anywhere else in the world and if Keith needed

2742
02:21:10,600 --> 02:21:13,680
Speaker 3: to get in, I'm obligated to get a fellow rapper.

2743
02:21:13,800 --> 02:21:16,560
Speaker 3: And I'm obligated. But I know he's from Long Island.

2744
02:21:16,560 --> 02:21:18,680
Speaker 3: He's going right down the flot He's good. I was

2745
02:21:18,720 --> 02:21:21,320
Speaker 3: gonna come get him eventually. I was gonna come get

2746
02:21:21,320 --> 02:21:25,560
Speaker 3: an event. But I got these people that waited months

2747
02:21:26,080 --> 02:21:28,880
Speaker 3: to see me. I'm to wait it months to see me.

2748
02:21:29,640 --> 02:21:33,000
Speaker 3: So I did kind of pick my people over seeing

2749
02:21:33,240 --> 02:21:34,040
Speaker 3: where Keith was.

2750
02:21:34,360 --> 02:21:35,440
Speaker 4: It was a misunderstanding.

2751
02:21:35,520 --> 02:21:36,680
Speaker 1: Man, he's a misunderstanding.

2752
02:21:36,720 --> 02:21:38,280
Speaker 3: I want to dress it like a man. I want

2753
02:21:38,320 --> 02:21:40,560
Speaker 3: to dress it like a man because how he took it,

2754
02:21:40,760 --> 02:21:42,920
Speaker 3: how he took it could have been that way. It

2755
02:21:42,959 --> 02:21:45,240
Speaker 3: could have been because it was just a spirit moment

2756
02:21:45,640 --> 02:21:47,440
Speaker 3: like me, like I died him and that's not me.

2757
02:21:47,879 --> 02:21:50,200
Speaker 3: That's what this whole show is about. It's give him flowers.

2758
02:21:50,440 --> 02:21:52,400
Speaker 3: When I see a fellow legend, I want to salute

2759
02:21:52,400 --> 02:21:55,200
Speaker 3: a legend. But at the same time, I don't do

2760
02:21:55,360 --> 02:21:57,320
Speaker 3: shows no more. Eric, you said you don't leave the couch.

2761
02:21:57,360 --> 02:21:58,760
Speaker 3: I don't leave the motherfucking couch.

2762
02:21:58,879 --> 02:22:05,920
Speaker 4: You've come. He'll couch outside up.

2763
02:22:07,560 --> 02:22:08,800
Speaker 1: These places.

2764
02:22:09,879 --> 02:22:13,520
Speaker 3: Spot to be there. So when I'm there and I'm

2765
02:22:13,560 --> 02:22:18,400
Speaker 3: seeing a fellow person clear these restaurants, I don't, I don't.

2766
02:22:18,879 --> 02:22:19,640
Speaker 1: Let's be clear.

2767
02:22:24,560 --> 02:22:25,120
Speaker 5: We all know.

2768
02:22:25,800 --> 02:22:29,880
Speaker 3: We all know to a certain extent, Keith is a

2769
02:22:30,000 --> 02:22:34,840
Speaker 3: liability to a certain extent, I did not want to

2770
02:22:34,879 --> 02:22:38,640
Speaker 3: be responsible for the person that let Keith, and knowing

2771
02:22:38,720 --> 02:22:40,160
Speaker 3: that he has relationship.

2772
02:22:39,720 --> 02:22:40,120
Speaker 4: With l L.

2773
02:22:40,200 --> 02:22:42,480
Speaker 3: We're all here for l L, regardless of your check

2774
02:22:42,560 --> 02:22:44,800
Speaker 3: is involved or not, be a dire for l L.

2775
02:22:45,640 --> 02:22:48,320
Speaker 3: I didn't want to be the guy, the snick Keith

2776
02:22:48,440 --> 02:22:52,840
Speaker 3: marry Inn and he do some great He fought on

2777
02:22:52,920 --> 02:22:55,520
Speaker 3: the mic. We've seen him far on the mic and

2778
02:22:55,560 --> 02:22:58,240
Speaker 3: Big Face Gary Show. We see him standing in front

2779
02:22:58,240 --> 02:23:03,680
Speaker 3: of the the streets stopping cars. We seen him jump

2780
02:23:03,760 --> 02:23:09,160
Speaker 3: on top of a girl's back. It's all documented, guys,

2781
02:23:09,720 --> 02:23:11,920
Speaker 3: this is all on the internet. So I felt at

2782
02:23:11,959 --> 02:23:15,000
Speaker 3: that time I didn't want to be responsible. But did

2783
02:23:15,080 --> 02:23:17,240
Speaker 3: I just Keith? Hell no, that's not what I meant

2784
02:23:17,280 --> 02:23:18,040
Speaker 3: that was not my intention.

2785
02:23:18,680 --> 02:23:20,760
Speaker 1: That was not my intentions. But my intention was to

2786
02:23:20,800 --> 02:23:22,119
Speaker 1: protect myself though as well.

2787
02:23:22,160 --> 02:23:23,400
Speaker 2: I got you, yeah, you know what.

2788
02:23:24,640 --> 02:23:26,119
Speaker 1: So he went, so, this is why I was mad.

2789
02:23:26,160 --> 02:23:27,119
Speaker 1: This is the reason why I was mad.

2790
02:23:28,080 --> 02:23:29,880
Speaker 2: He told the story on Big Face Gary Show.

2791
02:23:31,320 --> 02:23:34,080
Speaker 1: I laughed at it. It was cool. I seen him

2792
02:23:34,200 --> 02:23:37,560
Speaker 1: with you after that. Do you know where we see

2793
02:23:37,600 --> 02:23:37,920
Speaker 1: each other?

2794
02:23:39,600 --> 02:23:39,960
Speaker 3: Once?

2795
02:23:40,440 --> 02:23:41,400
Speaker 4: I seen him.

2796
02:23:43,120 --> 02:23:45,560
Speaker 1: Be to you once, I I can't right to want

2797
02:23:45,560 --> 02:23:48,600
Speaker 1: to say, Keith, I said, I didn't mean it like that.

2798
02:23:48,879 --> 02:23:51,960
Speaker 1: He said, Yo, are we good? And he said we're good.

2799
02:23:52,400 --> 02:23:54,880
Speaker 1: He smiled at me, and we actually have it on

2800
02:23:55,240 --> 02:23:57,520
Speaker 1: foot of me, in front.

2801
02:23:57,320 --> 02:23:58,800
Speaker 3: Of the knock, in front of him because I didn't

2802
02:23:58,800 --> 02:23:59,280
Speaker 3: step to him.

2803
02:23:59,280 --> 02:24:01,440
Speaker 1: It wasn't like I was like, what you now. I

2804
02:24:01,520 --> 02:24:04,640
Speaker 1: was just like, yo, broderstand.

2805
02:24:05,320 --> 02:24:06,560
Speaker 3: Me red Man.

2806
02:24:07,000 --> 02:24:08,160
Speaker 2: We shook hands.

2807
02:24:09,040 --> 02:24:11,560
Speaker 3: We have it on tape. Then he goes on Willie

2808
02:24:11,600 --> 02:24:14,840
Speaker 3: d Show and he goes, I heard Nordy got five

2809
02:24:14,879 --> 02:24:17,960
Speaker 3: million dollars and he turned he's by the way, I

2810
02:24:17,959 --> 02:24:21,040
Speaker 3: don't know what this fucking rumor about, and he's like, yeah,

2811
02:24:21,440 --> 02:24:24,240
Speaker 3: so soon as Noory, you know, got money, he started

2812
02:24:24,360 --> 02:24:26,920
Speaker 3: changing on me and I'm like that I've never changed.

2813
02:24:27,040 --> 02:24:29,760
Speaker 3: There's one incident, is that rock the Bells you have

2814
02:24:30,000 --> 02:24:30,879
Speaker 3: records with LL.

2815
02:24:30,959 --> 02:24:32,880
Speaker 1: I think I feel like l L is obligated to

2816
02:24:32,920 --> 02:24:36,160
Speaker 1: get you in more than me, more than me. I'm

2817
02:24:36,200 --> 02:24:37,199
Speaker 1: here for our job.

2818
02:24:39,400 --> 02:24:42,080
Speaker 4: I mean, oh, I know the fact that this man, yeah,

2819
02:24:42,320 --> 02:24:47,000
Speaker 4: if you know, keep from every story and he never

2820
02:24:47,120 --> 02:24:50,520
Speaker 4: told that story. You know, like no parents, the way

2821
02:24:50,560 --> 02:24:53,120
Speaker 4: that his parents died, the where his sistant them died,

2822
02:24:53,240 --> 02:24:55,840
Speaker 4: oh bless the way that he had to help stuff

2823
02:24:55,959 --> 02:24:58,680
Speaker 4: down as a young eighteen year old kids on the block.

2824
02:24:58,840 --> 02:25:03,800
Speaker 4: Who funded who funded everybody? People? We had biggest, small

2825
02:25:03,840 --> 02:25:06,360
Speaker 4: than the hood people. We had noads in the hood

2826
02:25:06,959 --> 02:25:08,320
Speaker 4: like these people they fuck.

2827
02:25:08,400 --> 02:25:13,360
Speaker 1: That's the reason why you know he's loved so so like.

2828
02:25:13,400 --> 02:25:18,640
Speaker 4: Anybody else who has you know, something that's conflicted right again,

2829
02:25:19,760 --> 02:25:21,920
Speaker 4: this is the things you know. Things happened, and.

2830
02:25:21,920 --> 02:25:23,640
Speaker 3: It was two things. Let me just tell you what else.

2831
02:25:24,480 --> 02:25:30,080
Speaker 3: So as we see each other, I get my people in.

2832
02:25:30,200 --> 02:25:32,800
Speaker 3: Who was waiting for thirty minutes, I get them in.

2833
02:25:33,000 --> 02:25:35,320
Speaker 3: He was waiting for his time. But then we both

2834
02:25:35,400 --> 02:25:38,000
Speaker 3: go to the bathroom. We both come out in the

2835
02:25:38,080 --> 02:25:40,320
Speaker 3: bathroom and we were like, he's on one side of

2836
02:25:40,320 --> 02:25:42,240
Speaker 3: the bathroom and on the other side of the bathroom

2837
02:25:42,320 --> 02:25:43,480
Speaker 3: and we both come out to the bath.

2838
02:25:43,440 --> 02:25:48,279
Speaker 1: I don't like giving you know, five after the bathroom,

2839
02:25:48,440 --> 02:25:53,120
Speaker 1: it's just thing. Go to the stage.

2840
02:25:53,760 --> 02:25:58,039
Speaker 3: I go to the stage, I perform, and Keith says,

2841
02:25:58,120 --> 02:26:00,440
Speaker 3: and I have to address this part. He goes, he didn't.

2842
02:26:00,600 --> 02:26:03,520
Speaker 3: He didn't stay there when Tragedy performed. Well, I just

2843
02:26:03,600 --> 02:26:05,560
Speaker 3: want to explain something to because I gotta address him,

2844
02:26:05,560 --> 02:26:07,360
Speaker 3: because he addressed me twice. He did it on Big

2845
02:26:07,360 --> 02:26:09,160
Speaker 3: Face Gary Show and did it on Really Defus.

2846
02:26:08,879 --> 02:26:12,360
Speaker 1: What you Gotta do with me though, exactly exactly set

2847
02:26:12,400 --> 02:26:17,440
Speaker 1: your ass up. So so look, so this is I'm

2848
02:26:17,440 --> 02:26:18,879
Speaker 1: not I'm not negative at all though.

2849
02:26:19,560 --> 02:26:21,680
Speaker 3: So what happened was, he says, Yo, Normy got on

2850
02:26:21,760 --> 02:26:25,080
Speaker 3: stage and when Trag performed, he walked to the side.

2851
02:26:25,920 --> 02:26:27,200
Speaker 2: That's called taking a break.

2852
02:26:27,480 --> 02:26:29,920
Speaker 1: It's called getting the water break, and it's called that.

2853
02:26:30,120 --> 02:26:33,320
Speaker 3: This was my show. I was trying to let Trag shine.

2854
02:26:34,440 --> 02:26:36,360
Speaker 1: How could you take that in any other way?

2855
02:26:36,879 --> 02:26:41,480
Speaker 2: So I don't watch nobody good things in my class.

2856
02:26:41,480 --> 02:26:45,560
Speaker 4: When when I'm done my work, I'm funking out of there.

2857
02:26:46,720 --> 02:26:48,240
Speaker 4: And to just be like that too, because I used

2858
02:26:48,240 --> 02:26:50,280
Speaker 4: to be like, damn, why niggas going home because I

2859
02:26:50,280 --> 02:26:52,680
Speaker 4: didn't understand that when I was younger, Like niggas ain't

2860
02:26:52,680 --> 02:26:56,960
Speaker 4: watching my show. I don't give a funk who out there.

2861
02:26:57,040 --> 02:26:59,240
Speaker 3: So let me just finish just saying that the fuck home,

2862
02:26:59,480 --> 02:27:04,520
Speaker 3: keithver you the only reason why. And by the way

2863
02:27:04,840 --> 02:27:07,640
Speaker 3: he said that he turned us down. I don't ever

2864
02:27:07,800 --> 02:27:10,440
Speaker 3: remember that. I don't ever remember that. But let me

2865
02:27:10,480 --> 02:27:13,000
Speaker 3: just tell you something, Keith. The only reason why we

2866
02:27:13,160 --> 02:27:16,080
Speaker 3: didn't take that interview at that time was because of

2867
02:27:16,280 --> 02:27:19,360
Speaker 3: us seeing that footage and us being concerned. Yes, do

2868
02:27:19,440 --> 02:27:21,720
Speaker 3: we have other people that's on here out of control.

2869
02:27:23,080 --> 02:27:26,320
Speaker 3: We have, but we didn't know better and now we do.

2870
02:27:27,000 --> 02:27:27,240
Speaker 6: So the.

2871
02:27:28,720 --> 02:27:31,160
Speaker 2: One thing that I don't want to do is help.

2872
02:27:31,240 --> 02:27:33,800
Speaker 4: Ruin some a legends. But one thing that you you

2873
02:27:33,879 --> 02:27:35,640
Speaker 4: got to know though, too, is the fact that so

2874
02:27:35,879 --> 02:27:39,320
Speaker 4: Be hereward was right. Yep, fantastic, fantastic. The whole thing

2875
02:27:39,320 --> 02:27:39,959
Speaker 4: about it, too is the.

2876
02:27:39,959 --> 02:27:42,640
Speaker 1: Fact that once you but they say they good with

2877
02:27:42,840 --> 02:27:43,240
Speaker 1: around you.

2878
02:27:44,280 --> 02:27:46,440
Speaker 4: But still but still you have to you have to

2879
02:27:46,800 --> 02:27:50,360
Speaker 4: all this stuff that could put you in the situation. Yep,

2880
02:27:51,240 --> 02:27:54,160
Speaker 4: this is what you can, but it takes away from

2881
02:27:54,280 --> 02:27:55,600
Speaker 4: the show. It's called.

2882
02:27:57,680 --> 02:28:04,560
Speaker 3: By the way, I'm still me, Yeah, conversations. Your conversation

2883
02:28:04,720 --> 02:28:06,400
Speaker 3: is still dope. So that's he's a fake Puerto Rican

2884
02:28:06,480 --> 02:28:11,760
Speaker 3: listening and I still find the way it don't.

2885
02:28:11,640 --> 02:28:15,840
Speaker 4: Matter without it. So again, the fact that I know

2886
02:28:16,640 --> 02:28:19,920
Speaker 4: the conversation would be and that's why I wanted to say, yeah,

2887
02:28:23,040 --> 02:28:29,560
Speaker 4: not like every every chance. Is the fact like when

2888
02:28:29,600 --> 02:28:33,040
Speaker 4: you when somebody's alone and you know, and they going down,

2889
02:28:33,160 --> 02:28:33,680
Speaker 4: and then.

2890
02:28:34,120 --> 02:28:36,680
Speaker 3: You know, like because between me and you, like big

2891
02:28:36,760 --> 02:28:38,480
Speaker 3: Face Gary told me I had a conversation with Big

2892
02:28:38,480 --> 02:28:40,000
Speaker 3: Face Gary, Big Face Gary. I was like, yo, did

2893
02:28:40,080 --> 02:28:43,520
Speaker 3: did he drink? And He's like yeah, and I'm like,

2894
02:28:43,600 --> 02:28:46,360
Speaker 3: wait a minute. So I didn't want that because I'm like,

2895
02:28:46,360 --> 02:28:48,760
Speaker 3: all right, cool, just like how you not drinking? We

2896
02:28:48,840 --> 02:28:51,160
Speaker 3: can still do that. But the last thing I want

2897
02:28:51,200 --> 02:28:53,320
Speaker 3: to do is he drink. Is someone laughing, he'd take

2898
02:28:53,360 --> 02:28:55,600
Speaker 3: a joke the wrong way and try to get physical,

2899
02:28:58,920 --> 02:29:00,560
Speaker 3: so something that's like, we don't need that.

2900
02:29:00,879 --> 02:29:03,040
Speaker 2: What we need is give you your flowers.

2901
02:29:04,440 --> 02:29:08,400
Speaker 4: But I think that the convo that he would give

2902
02:29:08,440 --> 02:29:12,680
Speaker 4: you would be fantastic. I think it's gonna happen at

2903
02:29:12,680 --> 02:29:14,440
Speaker 4: the end of the day too, which is like, listen

2904
02:29:14,440 --> 02:29:18,000
Speaker 4: to the memo I was on drugs for fifteen years. Right,

2905
02:29:19,080 --> 02:29:21,920
Speaker 4: I was doing purgocept for from two thousand and eight

2906
02:29:22,000 --> 02:29:25,560
Speaker 4: to twenty twenty two. All right, June second to be

2907
02:29:25,680 --> 02:29:30,560
Speaker 4: my second will be my two years of me being sober.

2908
02:29:30,879 --> 02:29:32,560
Speaker 2: Right, Well, congrats, congrats.

2909
02:29:32,600 --> 02:29:33,360
Speaker 3: I just made them money.

2910
02:29:37,280 --> 02:29:39,920
Speaker 4: I understand about that substance abuse.

2911
02:29:40,200 --> 02:29:44,240
Speaker 2: This is what somebody hass you know, serious and to.

2912
02:29:45,720 --> 02:29:48,560
Speaker 4: Anybody that's just They taught me this in the in

2913
02:29:48,600 --> 02:29:51,560
Speaker 4: the rehab, I can tell f Intwo he blew in

2914
02:29:51,600 --> 02:29:54,440
Speaker 4: the face to go get help. It ain't gonna matter.

2915
02:29:54,840 --> 02:29:59,360
Speaker 4: You're so intervendens right before with people. You gotta be ready.

2916
02:30:00,520 --> 02:30:03,080
Speaker 4: Everybody needs to start with like, go and talk to

2917
02:30:03,240 --> 02:30:06,199
Speaker 4: each other. And who's talking to him, It doesn't matter.

2918
02:30:07,400 --> 02:30:11,400
Speaker 4: The individual itself passed the change. I had to say

2919
02:30:11,959 --> 02:30:16,119
Speaker 4: two to myself. I got to go inside, even though

2920
02:30:16,240 --> 02:30:19,280
Speaker 4: I let all that time go by to where at

2921
02:30:19,360 --> 02:30:24,640
Speaker 4: the end, I'm taking these thirties that are mixed with fetnol.

2922
02:30:24,720 --> 02:30:27,080
Speaker 4: So when I go in there and take my piss tests,

2923
02:30:27,520 --> 02:30:28,120
Speaker 4: they said, oh, you.

2924
02:30:28,160 --> 02:30:31,080
Speaker 2: Do fetnol too, don't you. I'm like, I don't do fetanol.

2925
02:30:31,640 --> 02:30:34,360
Speaker 4: So that means that the fetnah and the press pills

2926
02:30:34,400 --> 02:30:37,640
Speaker 4: I was getting because again the street is provided me. Now,

2927
02:30:37,760 --> 02:30:40,920
Speaker 4: now the doctors, I'm on the street getting pills. Of course,

2928
02:30:40,959 --> 02:30:44,320
Speaker 4: you know, people, I never went back to them. You know,

2929
02:30:44,400 --> 02:30:46,520
Speaker 4: you can't go back and they ain't gonna be giving

2930
02:30:46,560 --> 02:30:48,800
Speaker 4: you pills. You gotta go to the street. But again,

2931
02:30:48,840 --> 02:30:50,680
Speaker 4: the nigga who I was dealing with, I didn't know

2932
02:30:50,800 --> 02:30:53,760
Speaker 4: that he was dirty. But again, if I'm spending eight

2933
02:30:53,800 --> 02:30:55,560
Speaker 4: thousand dollars a month, of course he don't give a

2934
02:30:55,640 --> 02:30:58,160
Speaker 4: fucking If the pills is fucked up, I'm gonna go

2935
02:30:58,200 --> 02:31:01,080
Speaker 4: with the value of them eight thousand dollars.

2936
02:31:02,000 --> 02:31:04,800
Speaker 2: Look at this face looking like, I will hold your custoiner.

2937
02:31:05,680 --> 02:31:09,400
Speaker 4: So so of course, people who I thought that was

2938
02:31:09,520 --> 02:31:13,040
Speaker 4: my friend's damn, I could have died. But towards the end,

2939
02:31:13,120 --> 02:31:15,800
Speaker 4: I kept throwing up. So every time I would pop,

2940
02:31:15,879 --> 02:31:16,560
Speaker 4: I would throw up.

2941
02:31:16,600 --> 02:31:17,520
Speaker 2: You get rid of the talks.

2942
02:31:17,840 --> 02:31:21,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it wasn't happening until that time. Wow, So

2943
02:31:21,760 --> 02:31:24,400
Speaker 4: whatever happened, that guard was like, hey know what, Hey,

2944
02:31:25,000 --> 02:31:27,640
Speaker 4: all right, I'm gonna keep saving you, but the next

2945
02:31:27,720 --> 02:31:28,720
Speaker 4: time you might not make it.

2946
02:31:29,120 --> 02:31:32,600
Speaker 2: So I went to rehab, went upstate, stayed there.

2947
02:31:33,400 --> 02:31:36,520
Speaker 4: Mad. People talked the whole nine because the most part

2948
02:31:36,640 --> 02:31:39,520
Speaker 4: is that I was worried about the withdrawal part. So

2949
02:31:39,640 --> 02:31:42,600
Speaker 4: the withdraw part make years go by it because is

2950
02:31:42,640 --> 02:31:45,480
Speaker 4: technically heroin, right, it's the synthetic heroin. The heroin is

2951
02:31:45,520 --> 02:31:47,800
Speaker 4: what you're addicted to. So at the end of the day,

2952
02:31:49,840 --> 02:31:52,520
Speaker 4: people that was in there, it was one dude named Smiley.

2953
02:31:52,600 --> 02:31:55,280
Speaker 4: He had tracks all on this arm up and he

2954
02:31:55,440 --> 02:31:57,560
Speaker 4: did tell him to put a shirt on because he

2955
02:31:58,000 --> 02:32:01,000
Speaker 4: again you could see everything he was. His whole arms

2956
02:32:01,120 --> 02:32:02,000
Speaker 4: was filled.

2957
02:32:02,280 --> 02:32:02,400
Speaker 6: Right.

2958
02:32:02,840 --> 02:32:06,120
Speaker 4: People that was doing fetanal to regularly. Crack was still

2959
02:32:06,200 --> 02:32:08,480
Speaker 4: heavy in there, you know, and people was there because.

2960
02:32:08,600 --> 02:32:10,560
Speaker 2: What you mean people were doing fitting all No, no.

2961
02:32:10,680 --> 02:32:12,960
Speaker 4: No, that's about fault, is that. Yeah, when you hit

2962
02:32:13,000 --> 02:32:19,800
Speaker 4: that story, yeah yeah yeah, yeah, yeah right because the

2963
02:32:20,120 --> 02:32:24,320
Speaker 4: hospital uses it, so it's fitting on something that. Yeah,

2964
02:32:24,320 --> 02:32:25,880
Speaker 4: but it don't have to be the bad ship, the

2965
02:32:26,000 --> 02:32:29,080
Speaker 4: bad and killing people. But they still use it in

2966
02:32:29,160 --> 02:32:31,600
Speaker 4: the hospital, of the street, the streets ships this bad

2967
02:32:32,959 --> 02:32:38,840
Speaker 4: so but but again this stuff again, you can go

2968
02:32:38,959 --> 02:32:42,680
Speaker 4: to heroin because once you can't afford the bill, you shoot,

2969
02:32:43,520 --> 02:32:46,000
Speaker 4: don't forget. You have to have money. So it was

2970
02:32:46,120 --> 02:32:48,680
Speaker 4: never gonna stop for me. That's the flex a little

2971
02:32:48,680 --> 02:32:56,080
Speaker 4: bit around. So if you got the bread you're gonna

2972
02:32:56,080 --> 02:32:58,800
Speaker 4: always be doing it. But the sad part of the

2973
02:32:58,920 --> 02:33:02,160
Speaker 4: fact that magic fin that money towards the end unit

2974
02:33:02,200 --> 02:33:06,959
Speaker 4: getting high. So for the last two years I'm doing

2975
02:33:07,000 --> 02:33:11,120
Speaker 4: it so I won't get with durls. So that's the

2976
02:33:11,160 --> 02:33:14,080
Speaker 4: part that's fucked up. So when people see when your

2977
02:33:14,200 --> 02:33:18,280
Speaker 4: talents comes now, Luckily, if I would have said, fuck it,

2978
02:33:18,400 --> 02:33:20,360
Speaker 4: I need to get that feeling and then I would

2979
02:33:20,400 --> 02:33:22,440
Speaker 4: have started shooting, that's the next step.

2980
02:33:22,480 --> 02:33:23,320
Speaker 2: That's what people go to.

2981
02:33:23,680 --> 02:33:26,440
Speaker 4: They go to the needle, you know, because the heroin

2982
02:33:26,560 --> 02:33:29,160
Speaker 4: part whatever ain't doing it for you no more. So

2983
02:33:29,280 --> 02:33:31,160
Speaker 4: that's what the whole part was with me. I'm like

2984
02:33:31,480 --> 02:33:33,880
Speaker 4: so like when you talk like when I did that,

2985
02:33:34,040 --> 02:33:38,080
Speaker 4: Timmelin left a big paragraph under my ship like Eric,

2986
02:33:38,320 --> 02:33:41,520
Speaker 4: he right, these are niggas. That was uses him meek

2987
02:33:42,080 --> 02:33:45,040
Speaker 4: fucking the bow, wows the waynes all these niggas sudden

2988
02:33:45,040 --> 02:33:48,480
Speaker 4: study they call it lean, but hydro code on is

2989
02:33:48,560 --> 02:33:53,480
Speaker 4: this liquid form of heroin exactly. So all this opio

2990
02:33:53,640 --> 02:33:56,680
Speaker 4: that was at that time, you know me, it came

2991
02:33:56,720 --> 02:33:59,920
Speaker 4: from the doctor I had back surgery. He gave me

2992
02:34:00,000 --> 02:34:03,320
Speaker 4: one hundred and twenty pills. It stands this tall inside

2993
02:34:03,320 --> 02:34:06,040
Speaker 4: of the and a thing with one twenty so after

2994
02:34:06,120 --> 02:34:08,560
Speaker 4: while you take the one, you take the two, and

2995
02:34:08,680 --> 02:34:10,960
Speaker 4: now your back pain is gone. And then you're like,

2996
02:34:11,040 --> 02:34:12,960
Speaker 4: then that shit feel good. The next you know, the

2997
02:34:13,040 --> 02:34:14,800
Speaker 4: next time you look up at twenty two days, all

2998
02:34:14,840 --> 02:34:15,959
Speaker 4: that the whole bottle is gone.

2999
02:34:16,200 --> 02:34:16,800
Speaker 3: You're addicted.

3000
02:34:17,800 --> 02:34:19,959
Speaker 4: It takes seven days for addiction.

3001
02:34:20,240 --> 02:34:24,199
Speaker 3: Wow, you know what's the crazy shit? I really appreciate

3002
02:34:24,280 --> 02:34:28,520
Speaker 3: you sharing that story because most people have never seen

3003
02:34:28,600 --> 02:34:32,080
Speaker 3: that version of you, Like, no, you got to be outsider.

3004
02:34:32,240 --> 02:34:34,200
Speaker 4: Look, you got to you got to be put together,

3005
02:34:34,200 --> 02:34:35,880
Speaker 4: you got to be not in and leading, and you

3006
02:34:35,959 --> 02:34:37,959
Speaker 4: got to have no money. She's the part you got

3007
02:34:38,080 --> 02:34:40,959
Speaker 4: to show. I'm still gonna raise my son, so I'm

3008
02:34:40,959 --> 02:34:43,280
Speaker 4: still taking them to school, watching them, feeding them the

3009
02:34:43,280 --> 02:34:45,960
Speaker 4: whole none cooking whatever, taking them to practice. The whole

3010
02:34:46,000 --> 02:34:49,680
Speaker 4: ship is the function and crackhead, right wow, right, what

3011
02:34:49,760 --> 02:34:51,800
Speaker 4: that is? The real street, the whole night is still

3012
02:34:51,879 --> 02:34:54,360
Speaker 4: doing them. The only time you don't do it is

3013
02:34:54,400 --> 02:34:57,440
Speaker 4: because you don't have any bread, and so now you're

3014
02:34:57,520 --> 02:34:58,120
Speaker 4: falling off.

3015
02:34:58,320 --> 02:34:59,720
Speaker 1: And then you got to go to the street and

3016
02:34:59,800 --> 02:35:03,480
Speaker 1: that and you're looking like you're looking the part.

3017
02:35:03,400 --> 02:35:05,000
Speaker 4: So you're doing it. But if you got this ship

3018
02:35:05,120 --> 02:35:09,360
Speaker 4: going you straight. Yeah, So I'm not gonna give that

3019
02:35:09,520 --> 02:35:12,800
Speaker 4: off and then whatever, I can't let you see me

3020
02:35:12,959 --> 02:35:16,920
Speaker 4: like that. So the kids didn't even understand. They were

3021
02:35:16,959 --> 02:35:19,480
Speaker 4: shocked as too. When I'm in read, they don't know

3022
02:35:19,640 --> 02:35:25,160
Speaker 4: that you can't you can't physically see that person, you know,

3023
02:35:26,000 --> 02:35:27,640
Speaker 4: unless they sucked up.

3024
02:35:28,560 --> 02:35:31,520
Speaker 3: And that's that's that's what makes it very very unique

3025
02:35:31,520 --> 02:35:35,520
Speaker 3: about you. Is I forget who I told today. I

3026
02:35:35,680 --> 02:35:38,200
Speaker 3: was like and I was like, I'm mad excited to

3027
02:35:38,360 --> 02:35:40,920
Speaker 3: interview told but no Eric Sherman, right, I was like,

3028
02:35:41,080 --> 02:35:42,160
Speaker 3: I'm mad exciting, right.

3029
02:35:42,840 --> 02:35:42,920
Speaker 6: And.

3030
02:35:44,879 --> 02:35:45,959
Speaker 2: You told me and.

3031
02:35:49,160 --> 02:35:51,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like a mad

3032
02:35:51,120 --> 02:35:52,800
Speaker 1: man because I was just like just hype.

3033
02:35:52,800 --> 02:35:54,360
Speaker 3: You know, even though you're my friend, I can say

3034
02:35:54,360 --> 02:35:56,320
Speaker 3: to you my friend, but I'm still like, it doesn't

3035
02:35:56,360 --> 02:35:58,840
Speaker 3: take away from me being your fan. It can't, it can't,

3036
02:35:59,200 --> 02:36:02,600
Speaker 3: And I'm mad excited it And I never that question

3037
02:36:02,640 --> 02:36:05,440
Speaker 3: would have never came up, like because I never I

3038
02:36:05,640 --> 02:36:09,400
Speaker 3: always seen you put together. I've never seen you out

3039
02:36:09,440 --> 02:36:12,000
Speaker 3: of line. Now people say that about d m X

3040
02:36:12,280 --> 02:36:16,080
Speaker 3: to me, right, say that I never seen DMX. How Ever,

3041
02:36:16,840 --> 02:36:19,200
Speaker 3: because they say that when d m A you, they

3042
02:36:19,240 --> 02:36:22,480
Speaker 3: said that I never they said no, I said, because

3043
02:36:22,520 --> 02:36:26,920
Speaker 3: when he actually got high, he stayed inside. So you

3044
02:36:27,040 --> 02:36:33,760
Speaker 3: were seeing him on on alcohol, you seeing him on the.

3045
02:36:36,920 --> 02:36:38,640
Speaker 1: So so that was shocking to me.

3046
02:36:38,760 --> 02:36:42,119
Speaker 3: But with you, that's kind of like the total opposite

3047
02:36:42,160 --> 02:36:44,360
Speaker 3: because I've kind of never seen you slipping like I

3048
02:36:44,520 --> 02:36:46,640
Speaker 3: kind of always seen you put together for every time.

3049
02:36:46,760 --> 02:36:48,840
Speaker 3: And that's one thing I said that somebody asked me,

3050
02:36:48,879 --> 02:36:51,039
Speaker 3: and I was like, I like, you know, I since

3051
02:36:51,040 --> 02:36:54,600
Speaker 3: silly love Eric Sherman as a person, not only his

3052
02:36:54,760 --> 02:36:57,160
Speaker 3: music and not only you know, if it was for

3053
02:36:57,240 --> 02:37:00,840
Speaker 3: ep M D with me a CNN. But you've always

3054
02:37:00,920 --> 02:37:05,359
Speaker 3: been the same. So you you got an excellent version.

3055
02:37:05,120 --> 02:37:09,720
Speaker 1: Of hot than that you have ecstasy at he was

3056
02:37:09,760 --> 02:37:12,320
Speaker 1: the dealer. I can see.

3057
02:37:12,360 --> 02:37:12,640
Speaker 4: It's the.

3058
02:37:17,640 --> 02:37:18,760
Speaker 1: It's a deal.

3059
02:37:18,920 --> 02:37:19,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, now.

3060
02:37:22,320 --> 02:37:25,560
Speaker 4: Okay, yes, yes now that you for you?

3061
02:37:25,680 --> 02:37:30,440
Speaker 2: You get I mean I never got. Just help let

3062
02:37:30,440 --> 02:37:31,040
Speaker 2: me get you.

3063
02:37:31,680 --> 02:37:33,600
Speaker 4: I tell you the ecstasy story.

3064
02:37:33,680 --> 02:37:34,520
Speaker 1: We want to get into it.

3065
02:37:34,600 --> 02:37:34,920
Speaker 3: Let's go.

3066
02:37:37,120 --> 02:37:40,080
Speaker 2: The Century Club in l A. Right, that sounds like

3067
02:37:40,120 --> 02:37:41,000
Speaker 2: a place for ecstasy.

3068
02:37:41,640 --> 02:37:44,800
Speaker 4: So now I don't know nothing about this. It's me

3069
02:37:45,040 --> 02:37:48,080
Speaker 4: dre exhibit A few other people get mad, go out right.

3070
02:37:48,640 --> 02:37:50,800
Speaker 3: It's a girl who introduced it to you know, doctor

3071
02:37:50,879 --> 02:37:52,959
Speaker 3: Dre did. Doctor Dre is the first person who gave

3072
02:37:52,959 --> 02:37:55,000
Speaker 3: you ecstasy. Let's talk some noise about the Dre.

3073
02:37:55,920 --> 02:38:00,080
Speaker 2: I don't make it do. I could have died, so

3074
02:38:00,200 --> 02:38:00,840
Speaker 2: the cronic.

3075
02:38:04,440 --> 02:38:07,840
Speaker 4: Crazy because again I don't even know if he if

3076
02:38:07,920 --> 02:38:09,359
Speaker 4: he remembered this story.

3077
02:38:09,520 --> 02:38:10,800
Speaker 2: But they're about to remember it.

3078
02:38:11,240 --> 02:38:14,600
Speaker 4: But anyway, this is what Sun Section Shouldtree club. We're

3079
02:38:14,600 --> 02:38:19,080
Speaker 4: going to. He pops the trunk, going net Pataya passed

3080
02:38:19,080 --> 02:38:23,920
Speaker 4: out appeals to everybody. Look, I got, I got no instructions.

3081
02:38:23,320 --> 02:38:24,600
Speaker 2: By the way, I want to be at this party

3082
02:38:24,680 --> 02:38:25,000
Speaker 2: so bad.

3083
02:38:25,120 --> 02:38:26,160
Speaker 1: Continue should club?

3084
02:38:26,200 --> 02:38:27,120
Speaker 3: I got so.

3085
02:38:27,240 --> 02:38:29,880
Speaker 4: Now we're in the Sphery Club right, like the record

3086
02:38:29,920 --> 02:38:36,520
Speaker 4: says city clubs. Now my homegirl Alisha's there, Barby Brown's wife. Right,

3087
02:38:38,280 --> 02:38:40,480
Speaker 4: this is wow ninety.

3088
02:38:42,440 --> 02:38:42,680
Speaker 3: Wow.

3089
02:38:42,840 --> 02:38:44,480
Speaker 4: Let me see what I was because I was doing

3090
02:38:44,560 --> 02:38:45,920
Speaker 4: exhibits album, so I.

3091
02:38:45,920 --> 02:38:48,720
Speaker 1: Would say ninety six first exhibit album, the first one

3092
02:38:48,840 --> 02:38:51,000
Speaker 1: that's ninety four five ninety five.

3093
02:38:52,760 --> 02:38:56,160
Speaker 4: I did the call the was shoe on the the

3094
02:38:56,200 --> 02:38:57,199
Speaker 4: one that had Pross.

3095
02:38:59,400 --> 02:39:02,000
Speaker 1: First man is a two thousand drugs.

3096
02:39:03,240 --> 02:39:07,160
Speaker 2: So I had to be like nty six exceed no nigga.

3097
02:39:07,240 --> 02:39:10,360
Speaker 2: He was out ninety five no in Miami for sure.

3098
02:39:11,480 --> 02:39:14,680
Speaker 1: You know it's like it's like ninety you're talking about

3099
02:39:14,760 --> 02:39:15,160
Speaker 1: ninety six.

3100
02:39:15,760 --> 02:39:17,879
Speaker 4: No camp, nigga, it's no reason.

3101
02:39:18,920 --> 02:39:21,160
Speaker 2: Ninety eight the second album, Someone was.

3102
02:39:23,280 --> 02:39:23,959
Speaker 4: So ninety eight.

3103
02:39:24,800 --> 02:39:25,400
Speaker 1: Second album.

3104
02:39:25,680 --> 02:39:26,879
Speaker 2: I do the sense.

3105
02:39:30,040 --> 02:39:30,200
Speaker 8: Right.

3106
02:39:31,440 --> 02:39:34,920
Speaker 4: So I go to your club, Alicia. We lost our

3107
02:39:34,959 --> 02:39:38,720
Speaker 4: friend Tiffany. She just had died. So she starts crying.

3108
02:39:39,360 --> 02:39:42,800
Speaker 4: So now I'm in the club boo hooing, crying with us.

3109
02:39:43,480 --> 02:39:48,480
Speaker 4: You're rolling, You're under no instructions with extasy. I'm crying

3110
02:39:48,600 --> 02:39:48,920
Speaker 4: with u.

3111
02:39:49,560 --> 02:39:50,720
Speaker 2: I mean boo hooing.

3112
02:39:51,600 --> 02:39:54,320
Speaker 4: Right after done.

3113
02:39:55,040 --> 02:40:01,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, we can't laugh that. No, someone passed. After I'm done,

3114
02:40:01,480 --> 02:40:03,640
Speaker 2: we go to the what's that hotel?

3115
02:40:03,680 --> 02:40:09,800
Speaker 4: Would tell the MDIO nothing on the other one, the manchos, no,

3116
02:40:09,959 --> 02:40:14,760
Speaker 4: not in montals need a deco hotel. No the other one, no,

3117
02:40:14,959 --> 02:40:19,160
Speaker 4: not not that one's hotel. Let's go Let's hotel, right,

3118
02:40:20,000 --> 02:40:24,320
Speaker 4: because always do he is the w then am always

3119
02:40:24,320 --> 02:40:29,160
Speaker 4: part to go whatever. So I go Lormitage. So the

3120
02:40:29,400 --> 02:40:32,000
Speaker 4: l was first would lie and there the m come

3121
02:40:32,040 --> 02:40:37,080
Speaker 4: out for that Dan. So so the Lamitage is the

3122
02:40:37,160 --> 02:40:37,520
Speaker 4: drug is.

3123
02:40:37,560 --> 02:40:40,640
Speaker 1: So drunk.

3124
02:40:44,720 --> 02:40:45,880
Speaker 3: Slumber champs gone.

3125
02:40:45,959 --> 02:40:49,400
Speaker 4: Well, the Lormitage. I ain't gonna tell you who famous

3126
02:40:49,440 --> 02:40:51,920
Speaker 4: wife this is. But somebody that's real famous, that's yous

3127
02:40:52,000 --> 02:40:54,800
Speaker 4: I got his wife in the room, right, I want

3128
02:40:54,840 --> 02:40:57,879
Speaker 4: to know, but she wouldn't she wasn't married then, Oh man,

3129
02:40:57,879 --> 02:41:00,400
Speaker 4: I don't even work marry with people like that ever

3130
02:41:00,480 --> 02:41:03,680
Speaker 4: in my life. So now I don't got no instructions.

3131
02:41:04,680 --> 02:41:07,280
Speaker 4: So now I'm in there buggering the fuck. I'm like, yo,

3132
02:41:07,920 --> 02:41:10,600
Speaker 4: now my mouth is driving my ship. Everything is dry,

3133
02:41:10,640 --> 02:41:13,360
Speaker 4: and I'm sitting there tripping. She come in there with

3134
02:41:13,440 --> 02:41:17,640
Speaker 4: the robe on nothing. I'm like, get out. I'm like,

3135
02:41:18,280 --> 02:41:21,120
Speaker 4: so now I'm sitting there. They forgot to tell me

3136
02:41:21,200 --> 02:41:21,800
Speaker 4: to drink water.

3137
02:41:21,920 --> 02:41:22,600
Speaker 2: You know, you gotta do.

3138
02:41:24,320 --> 02:41:24,760
Speaker 1: So now?

3139
02:41:25,959 --> 02:41:32,520
Speaker 4: And like this, no na, after I kicked I kicked

3140
02:41:32,520 --> 02:41:36,640
Speaker 4: the girl out. I'm in the bed, but time is

3141
02:41:36,760 --> 02:41:41,920
Speaker 4: moving slow. It's still maybe like in the morning. I'm like, damn,

3142
02:41:41,959 --> 02:41:43,760
Speaker 4: I ain't gonna be able to get through this. But again,

3143
02:41:44,040 --> 02:41:46,560
Speaker 4: if they were told me about to have somebody with

3144
02:41:46,720 --> 02:41:49,760
Speaker 4: you drink water the whole night, I got no instruction

3145
02:41:50,560 --> 02:41:53,600
Speaker 4: because I'm already booing. I'm already boohooing in the club

3146
02:41:54,320 --> 02:41:58,800
Speaker 4: draga ecstasy and said you take on the emotions of

3147
02:41:59,000 --> 02:42:01,080
Speaker 4: I took the emotions on that, but got to the

3148
02:42:01,200 --> 02:42:04,520
Speaker 4: room and whatever like that. But again that's that's whatever

3149
02:42:04,720 --> 02:42:07,560
Speaker 4: the experience. I never took that ever again in my

3150
02:42:07,680 --> 02:42:10,400
Speaker 4: life ever, and people rock with that. The whole time

3151
02:42:12,640 --> 02:42:16,320
Speaker 4: about walking about ecstasy is because the same effraial yous

3152
02:42:16,440 --> 02:42:21,039
Speaker 4: you get from that euphoria, that's what percoset does. That's

3153
02:42:21,080 --> 02:42:23,200
Speaker 4: why the people in the records speak about it so much.

3154
02:42:24,560 --> 02:42:27,760
Speaker 4: They shouldn't. But nobody's gonna speak about something that don't

3155
02:42:27,760 --> 02:42:32,959
Speaker 4: make them hot. That ecstasy feel you get. Pergoset give

3156
02:42:32,959 --> 02:42:35,320
Speaker 4: you that too. But does the percoset make you sleepy? No,

3157
02:42:35,480 --> 02:42:38,920
Speaker 4: that's certain people. Everything that every drug works lean. And

3158
02:42:39,000 --> 02:42:41,120
Speaker 4: the thing is is that it's the time before you

3159
02:42:41,240 --> 02:42:45,640
Speaker 4: fall asleep. There's that euphoria. That's the euphoria. But it

3160
02:42:45,760 --> 02:42:50,480
Speaker 4: can make you create and make records and be as

3161
02:42:50,600 --> 02:42:53,600
Speaker 4: ill as you possibly can while niggas smoke weed. That's

3162
02:42:53,600 --> 02:42:56,080
Speaker 4: why niggas did held when that's why you got people

3163
02:42:56,080 --> 02:42:58,120
Speaker 4: who over those. So you got the Kirk Coke Burns

3164
02:42:58,320 --> 02:42:59,959
Speaker 4: or the Marvin Gaye or that donnia have the way

3165
02:43:00,040 --> 02:43:00,320
Speaker 4: you can.

3166
02:43:00,280 --> 02:43:01,359
Speaker 2: Get create.

3167
02:43:03,280 --> 02:43:07,440
Speaker 4: In there fucking beating that piano all night five of

3168
02:43:07,520 --> 02:43:07,879
Speaker 4: the morning.

3169
02:43:08,959 --> 02:43:11,000
Speaker 3: You know, are you.

3170
02:43:12,800 --> 02:43:14,560
Speaker 4: No will? I'm just giving you what.

3171
02:43:14,959 --> 02:43:18,280
Speaker 1: It'll make you do you're recreating a way too real, bro.

3172
02:43:18,480 --> 02:43:20,840
Speaker 4: No, but because know when you when you up there

3173
02:43:20,840 --> 02:43:23,640
Speaker 4: and you hide the creative part of it makes you

3174
02:43:23,720 --> 02:43:25,960
Speaker 4: feel good. You just thought you'd be in there.

3175
02:43:26,040 --> 02:43:30,000
Speaker 2: You know, you ever worked an Electric Lady. No, I

3176
02:43:30,080 --> 02:43:32,760
Speaker 2: wish I would have you. That's with the cat.

3177
02:43:33,920 --> 02:43:34,959
Speaker 4: No, no, no, that's that's something.

3178
02:43:36,520 --> 02:43:39,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, the cat was a cat there in Dangelo. Yeah,

3179
02:43:39,879 --> 02:43:40,800
Speaker 1: d Angela had something to do.

3180
02:43:40,879 --> 02:43:43,200
Speaker 2: No, you have to know he ended up working there afterwards.

3181
02:43:43,800 --> 02:43:44,000
Speaker 5: Yeah.

3182
02:43:44,080 --> 02:43:46,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's Jimmy.

3183
02:43:47,040 --> 02:43:48,680
Speaker 1: And there was to be a white cat there.

3184
02:43:48,920 --> 02:43:52,000
Speaker 3: And I'm allergic to cats like anywhere, Like, if a

3185
02:43:52,080 --> 02:43:54,119
Speaker 3: cat is down the block, I will break out. That's

3186
02:43:54,160 --> 02:43:56,240
Speaker 3: the only cat in the world that I didn't break

3187
02:43:56,280 --> 02:43:58,600
Speaker 3: out for. And I swore to God that was Jimmy

3188
02:43:58,640 --> 02:44:03,000
Speaker 3: Hens what a real cat. Yeah, like a cat that

3189
02:44:03,200 --> 02:44:07,520
Speaker 3: was not the homie cat. Yeah, that's why I thought you.

3190
02:44:08,200 --> 02:44:09,800
Speaker 3: I swore you would have worked at an Electric lad

3191
02:44:09,920 --> 02:44:10,080
Speaker 3: I was.

3192
02:44:10,480 --> 02:44:12,560
Speaker 4: You know what, you get to this, to this, to

3193
02:44:12,720 --> 02:44:15,360
Speaker 4: this thing, and you tell stories and you keep it

3194
02:44:15,400 --> 02:44:16,960
Speaker 4: getting how sensitive people are.

3195
02:44:17,080 --> 02:44:17,200
Speaker 8: Man.

3196
02:44:17,200 --> 02:44:19,560
Speaker 2: I just told people like, don't call me, tell me yo,

3197
02:44:20,440 --> 02:44:21,520
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm just talking.

3198
02:44:21,360 --> 02:44:23,880
Speaker 4: In my head. About people that don't worry. Yeah, I know,

3199
02:44:24,000 --> 02:44:24,600
Speaker 4: but people.

3200
02:44:26,040 --> 02:44:28,880
Speaker 2: Don't worry. They blame us anyways, you know. But I

3201
02:44:28,879 --> 02:44:31,000
Speaker 2: don't want to bring up the story though, But again.

3202
02:44:31,080 --> 02:44:34,640
Speaker 1: Bring the story what you do, right, because this is history,

3203
02:44:34,720 --> 02:44:38,000
Speaker 1: no real, we're documenting history. That's the problem that hip

3204
02:44:38,040 --> 02:44:41,199
Speaker 1: hop hasn't done a very good job of documenting itself properly.

3205
02:44:41,400 --> 02:44:43,680
Speaker 3: That's right, Yeah, that's right.

3206
02:44:47,000 --> 02:44:48,160
Speaker 2: You know, we gotta be told.

3207
02:44:48,240 --> 02:44:48,680
Speaker 3: God damn it.

3208
02:44:49,480 --> 02:44:51,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got some I got some ship though, man

3209
02:44:51,360 --> 02:44:56,760
Speaker 4: with some other niggas. So you had a story or

3210
02:44:56,800 --> 02:45:00,520
Speaker 4: no I got I mean, that's that's yeah, buget fuck out, man,

3211
02:45:01,400 --> 02:45:02,960
Speaker 4: you got understand. This is why I tell people was

3212
02:45:03,480 --> 02:45:06,800
Speaker 4: see how everybody is famous. Now imagine that eighty eight.

3213
02:45:08,440 --> 02:45:11,400
Speaker 4: It's only like twelve of us, right, there's a small

3214
02:45:11,440 --> 02:45:12,480
Speaker 4: group with the whole world.

3215
02:45:12,640 --> 02:45:13,240
Speaker 2: It's crazy.

3216
02:45:13,360 --> 02:45:16,840
Speaker 4: And the poem we told about, man David talk about

3217
02:45:16,840 --> 02:45:19,680
Speaker 4: the other day. I'm in Philadelphia, I'm Michael Jackson. I

3218
02:45:19,760 --> 02:45:23,200
Speaker 4: gotta jump over the gate. I got ten thousand kids

3219
02:45:23,959 --> 02:45:24,480
Speaker 4: chasing me.

3220
02:45:24,959 --> 02:45:27,039
Speaker 2: Use finger popping everything I'm gonna.

3221
02:45:26,840 --> 02:45:29,360
Speaker 4: Say, because how it was like the same type of

3222
02:45:29,520 --> 02:45:32,200
Speaker 4: that's what you see, what you see talking about whatever

3223
02:45:32,320 --> 02:45:35,600
Speaker 4: you see. The fucking people talk about they're all famous now,

3224
02:45:35,640 --> 02:45:37,560
Speaker 4: but back then it was only twelve of us, and

3225
02:45:37,720 --> 02:45:40,760
Speaker 4: I was one of them, like e pmd Rahim Rock, Caim,

3226
02:45:40,879 --> 02:45:44,360
Speaker 4: Dougie Hammered Short. But it's only name you could name

3227
02:45:44,640 --> 02:45:47,600
Speaker 4: fifteen people. Can you imagine that with the whole world?

3228
02:45:48,680 --> 02:45:50,560
Speaker 4: I think, and this is the thing I know. I

3229
02:45:51,080 --> 02:45:56,440
Speaker 4: think the culture takes RANDI hold, hold, hold it. But

3230
02:45:56,560 --> 02:45:59,120
Speaker 4: I think I think the culture takes for granted that

3231
02:45:59,320 --> 02:46:04,560
Speaker 4: reality that it was a small thing day grew. I

3232
02:46:04,879 --> 02:46:08,320
Speaker 4: like to say when the iPod came to play and

3233
02:46:08,480 --> 02:46:11,480
Speaker 4: it made hip hop a thing beyond hip hop where

3234
02:46:11,520 --> 02:46:14,240
Speaker 4: you have a playlist, But we did that well, Apple

3235
02:46:14,280 --> 02:46:15,520
Speaker 4: and all these jobs.

3236
02:46:15,800 --> 02:46:19,160
Speaker 2: But that's what that's what explained it was in the culture.

3237
02:46:19,320 --> 02:46:23,400
Speaker 4: Remember Eminem had one commercial, Remember that, right, because don't

3238
02:46:23,400 --> 02:46:25,800
Speaker 4: forget Steve went to Jimmy Iveen and said, Yo, I

3239
02:46:25,840 --> 02:46:29,120
Speaker 4: got this ship called Apple, called it the iPod, want

3240
02:46:29,160 --> 02:46:31,160
Speaker 4: you suck with it? Jimmy Iveen is making a hundred

3241
02:46:31,200 --> 02:46:33,680
Speaker 4: million dollars in this call. He gets the funk about

3242
02:46:33,720 --> 02:46:36,440
Speaker 4: what Steve is talking about. So but in the beginning,

3243
02:46:36,600 --> 02:46:38,600
Speaker 4: Eminem does one commercial for Apple.

3244
02:46:38,879 --> 02:46:45,680
Speaker 2: We never saw the game. Really, he did one commercial

3245
02:46:45,920 --> 02:46:46,360
Speaker 2: for Apple.

3246
02:46:47,520 --> 02:46:47,879
Speaker 1: You two.

3247
02:46:49,280 --> 02:46:52,400
Speaker 4: He didn't nobody, Jimmy Iveen, nobody believed in it. They

3248
02:46:52,400 --> 02:46:54,800
Speaker 4: didn't believe that, so they didn't let it happen. What

3249
02:46:54,920 --> 02:46:59,800
Speaker 4: Steve was playing with like, he changed that. That ship

3250
02:47:00,080 --> 02:47:01,920
Speaker 4: changed the game. That fucking iPod.

3251
02:47:02,040 --> 02:47:05,440
Speaker 1: That's what changed everything, but also changed Apple. But that's

3252
02:47:05,480 --> 02:47:08,880
Speaker 1: what changed hip hop in terms of it being just culturally,

3253
02:47:09,400 --> 02:47:12,000
Speaker 1: because I tell people all till I'm like from Miami

3254
02:47:12,080 --> 02:47:15,080
Speaker 1: hip hop standpoint, I'm like, I remember going around and

3255
02:47:15,200 --> 02:47:17,600
Speaker 1: it was a few thousand hip hops.

3256
02:47:17,920 --> 02:47:21,720
Speaker 4: You said that because that's what happened. Steve went to

3257
02:47:21,879 --> 02:47:25,960
Speaker 4: him whatever, and Jimmy is like, look at me, Nigga

3258
02:47:26,440 --> 02:47:29,560
Speaker 4: in the scope, I'm fucking h you coming to me

3259
02:47:29,680 --> 02:47:29,920
Speaker 4: with this.

3260
02:47:30,959 --> 02:47:34,600
Speaker 2: Didn't believe it. And it changed the game. It changed everything.

3261
02:47:34,720 --> 02:47:38,000
Speaker 1: It changed everything because it crossed genre and everything and

3262
02:47:38,120 --> 02:47:39,760
Speaker 1: made everybody be into everything.

3263
02:47:39,879 --> 02:47:42,280
Speaker 2: And then it just good and bad.

3264
02:47:42,959 --> 02:47:45,920
Speaker 4: There's good and I wish though, oh my God, to

3265
02:47:46,000 --> 02:47:49,600
Speaker 4: be able to Tuesday comes and the CDs coming out.

3266
02:47:49,680 --> 02:47:51,840
Speaker 4: Nigga's on the line of Tower Records and be a

3267
02:47:52,080 --> 02:47:53,880
Speaker 4: soul opened up and read the back and the whole,

3268
02:47:53,920 --> 02:47:54,440
Speaker 4: and that's that.

3269
02:47:54,680 --> 02:47:59,680
Speaker 2: That was Sam Goodie and the Mixtape errow, Like.

3270
02:48:00,120 --> 02:48:03,320
Speaker 4: Can you imagine if that still existed, that we waited

3271
02:48:03,400 --> 02:48:05,360
Speaker 4: for Tuesday and we waited for that and all of

3272
02:48:05,400 --> 02:48:08,600
Speaker 4: a sudden, niggas dropping, Like yo, what can you imagine

3273
02:48:08,640 --> 02:48:11,200
Speaker 4: we still had that type of ship Like I understand

3274
02:48:11,240 --> 02:48:13,840
Speaker 4: about technology though, but to be able to you as

3275
02:48:13,879 --> 02:48:20,880
Speaker 4: a fan to open up the package and it was

3276
02:48:20,959 --> 02:48:24,080
Speaker 4: recording but but but then but then play the sequence right,

3277
02:48:24,360 --> 02:48:28,359
Speaker 4: But to care the sequence was important shuffle.

3278
02:48:28,120 --> 02:48:30,720
Speaker 1: To care about it, guys, this is a shuffle available

3279
02:48:30,760 --> 02:48:33,959
Speaker 1: we're talking about to care about even wanting to read

3280
02:48:34,000 --> 02:48:34,560
Speaker 1: those credits.

3281
02:48:34,600 --> 02:48:36,880
Speaker 3: But that's what I'm saying that when it changed, like

3282
02:48:37,480 --> 02:48:39,959
Speaker 3: there's the positivity of the audience growing.

3283
02:48:39,760 --> 02:48:43,240
Speaker 4: Actually was important because then when that interlude came, the

3284
02:48:43,360 --> 02:48:45,800
Speaker 4: inter it's a red down on your head. It's a

3285
02:48:45,879 --> 02:48:48,560
Speaker 4: red down on your head too. Oh Ship, then the

3286
02:48:48,600 --> 02:48:53,240
Speaker 4: record coming like that was nothing like that, Like I

3287
02:48:53,320 --> 02:48:56,280
Speaker 4: know it's a dream though, but damn man, Ship.

3288
02:48:56,440 --> 02:48:57,920
Speaker 3: You was one of the first people that I heard

3289
02:48:58,040 --> 02:49:04,240
Speaker 3: speak about streaming. Do you think in retrospect it's a

3290
02:49:04,280 --> 02:49:05,200
Speaker 3: good thing or a bad thing?

3291
02:49:06,680 --> 02:49:12,720
Speaker 4: Streaming right now is quadjupling. The contracts we got when

3292
02:49:12,720 --> 02:49:15,240
Speaker 4: we got contract meaning when we.

3293
02:49:15,280 --> 02:49:21,960
Speaker 3: Signed our contracts, the Perpetuity did and that was involved.

3294
02:49:22,120 --> 02:49:26,000
Speaker 4: Is even with the less than one penny, it is

3295
02:49:26,080 --> 02:49:27,280
Speaker 4: better than the contracts we got.

3296
02:49:28,640 --> 02:49:31,480
Speaker 1: Wait, because of how much exponentially.

3297
02:49:31,200 --> 02:49:35,720
Speaker 4: Money that's being made is way way more than the

3298
02:49:35,800 --> 02:49:36,879
Speaker 4: contract that we got.

3299
02:49:37,640 --> 02:49:40,680
Speaker 2: But the money being made for the label. Yeah, but

3300
02:49:40,920 --> 02:49:41,240
Speaker 2: if you.

3301
02:49:42,760 --> 02:49:48,640
Speaker 4: Have, if you independent and you got the name and

3302
02:49:48,760 --> 02:49:51,200
Speaker 4: it goes to you, I'm just going to pause what's

3303
02:49:51,240 --> 02:49:53,560
Speaker 4: happening with me and when you talk to baby. When

3304
02:49:53,640 --> 02:49:55,960
Speaker 4: Baby says, if you think there's no money in the

3305
02:49:56,040 --> 02:49:59,480
Speaker 4: music business, union in the music business because people like him.

3306
02:50:00,520 --> 02:50:02,920
Speaker 4: But the contract, this is what I'm saying. The contract

3307
02:50:02,920 --> 02:50:07,480
Speaker 4: that we got that you signed from every artist doesn't

3308
02:50:07,480 --> 02:50:09,760
Speaker 4: compare to the one less than one pinion that we get.

3309
02:50:09,840 --> 02:50:14,720
Speaker 4: The streaming now, I don't know about what everybody else

3310
02:50:14,879 --> 02:50:18,640
Speaker 4: thinks is doing, but I've seen it happen for people

3311
02:50:19,040 --> 02:50:21,879
Speaker 4: and what it's doing for other people who are benefiting

3312
02:50:22,040 --> 02:50:25,080
Speaker 4: off streaming. But the ill part of the fact that

3313
02:50:25,320 --> 02:50:26,720
Speaker 4: it's supposed to be going up.

3314
02:50:27,480 --> 02:50:30,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Congress is supposed to pas it to one penny,

3315
02:50:30,240 --> 02:50:33,800
Speaker 1: to a penny to a penny, which everybody's like, that's ridiculous, buddy.

3316
02:50:33,520 --> 02:50:35,400
Speaker 2: But you're can imagine what a penny. Oh my god,

3317
02:50:35,680 --> 02:50:37,000
Speaker 2: is way big difference.

3318
02:50:37,360 --> 02:50:39,880
Speaker 1: But then when Snoop goes out and says this needs

3319
02:50:39,920 --> 02:50:42,119
Speaker 1: to change, I believe do you feel like the legacy

3320
02:50:42,240 --> 02:50:43,080
Speaker 1: artists should deserve?

3321
02:50:43,160 --> 02:50:45,960
Speaker 4: Noop is the one that made that thing happen? Oh

3322
02:50:46,040 --> 02:50:50,560
Speaker 4: really because him vocalizing one billion of streams only made systance.

3323
02:50:52,400 --> 02:50:55,199
Speaker 4: But see I could get on him. It is different

3324
02:50:55,320 --> 02:51:00,120
Speaker 4: for the producer, got you. The producer is not the

3325
02:51:00,360 --> 02:51:05,920
Speaker 4: artists or the writer like we we It's always been

3326
02:51:06,040 --> 02:51:10,640
Speaker 4: different for the producer. If we if we are the

3327
02:51:10,680 --> 02:51:11,760
Speaker 4: whole thing, we get the whole tea.

3328
02:51:13,120 --> 02:51:14,279
Speaker 2: As a producer.

3329
02:51:13,959 --> 02:51:16,040
Speaker 4: Producer, we just we get that. I just showed you

3330
02:51:16,120 --> 02:51:21,720
Speaker 4: on publishing and then on it right. But the artist,

3331
02:51:21,840 --> 02:51:25,920
Speaker 4: the producer period is going to be because again you

3332
02:51:26,120 --> 02:51:29,040
Speaker 4: get you get all that publishing, you get role, you

3333
02:51:29,120 --> 02:51:31,120
Speaker 4: get all of that that come with it. The writer

3334
02:51:31,320 --> 02:51:33,720
Speaker 4: doesn't get. The artist doesn't get it that contract GT

3335
02:51:33,720 --> 02:51:37,880
Speaker 4: made for him and her unless you you're big artist.

3336
02:51:37,920 --> 02:51:38,879
Speaker 2: You sell those millions of.

3337
02:51:38,920 --> 02:51:40,959
Speaker 4: Records and then you look for your advance to come

3338
02:51:41,040 --> 02:51:45,840
Speaker 4: back big, not the other mechanical stuff that the next

3339
02:51:45,879 --> 02:51:48,680
Speaker 4: advanced the label side exactly, and then they be like

3340
02:51:48,680 --> 02:51:50,800
Speaker 4: you know what you owe me five in thousands because

3341
02:51:50,800 --> 02:51:51,600
Speaker 4: I pay for that this way.

3342
02:51:51,760 --> 02:51:54,320
Speaker 2: Whatever, So you never the label, You'll never be cooped.

3343
02:51:55,000 --> 02:51:59,959
Speaker 4: You're gonna always owe them there, gonna always owe them always.

3344
02:52:00,280 --> 02:52:04,160
Speaker 3: I remember seeing charges as a young young and they

3345
02:52:04,200 --> 02:52:06,840
Speaker 3: would tell me, you know, we didn't have Instagram back then,

3346
02:52:07,120 --> 02:52:09,120
Speaker 3: we didn't have Twitter, and they would tell me, you know,

3347
02:52:09,200 --> 02:52:11,920
Speaker 3: we spent one hundred and fifty thousand in Japan for

3348
02:52:12,000 --> 02:52:14,560
Speaker 3: you here, and we spent such and such, and I

3349
02:52:14,680 --> 02:52:17,360
Speaker 3: didn't have access to Japan back then, so I would

3350
02:52:17,440 --> 02:52:20,160
Speaker 3: just take their word. Do you think they was lying

3351
02:52:20,240 --> 02:52:22,400
Speaker 3: to us? But you could always audit them though.

3352
02:52:23,600 --> 02:52:25,600
Speaker 4: Certain labels though too, And I can say it now

3353
02:52:25,760 --> 02:52:29,800
Speaker 4: that death Sham or whatever. They whole thing is to

3354
02:52:29,879 --> 02:52:33,879
Speaker 4: come under budget. So as long as I don't spend

3355
02:52:33,959 --> 02:52:36,520
Speaker 4: that money on you and I could pocket it, it's cool.

3356
02:52:37,000 --> 02:52:41,280
Speaker 4: Labels just did that period. They were some labels they

3357
02:52:41,440 --> 02:52:44,760
Speaker 4: do what would put money behind you, and not saying

3358
02:52:44,800 --> 02:52:47,240
Speaker 4: they didn't, but they go off for you having a

3359
02:52:47,320 --> 02:52:49,600
Speaker 4: hit record and then that shit exploded, you know what

3360
02:52:49,640 --> 02:52:52,160
Speaker 4: I'm saying. But the but, but the thing is to

3361
02:52:52,240 --> 02:52:54,680
Speaker 4: come under budget and for niggas to pocket money.

3362
02:52:55,240 --> 02:52:58,640
Speaker 1: Right, you know, you recorded albums under the budget.

3363
02:53:00,080 --> 02:53:02,600
Speaker 2: You mean he's saying that deaf Jam as a whole.

3364
02:53:02,680 --> 02:53:06,360
Speaker 2: The budget goal is the.

3365
02:53:06,600 --> 02:53:09,560
Speaker 1: Nuts that could be recording, that could be marketing. I

3366
02:53:09,640 --> 02:53:11,680
Speaker 1: get money from from from from what was it called

3367
02:53:11,760 --> 02:53:13,600
Speaker 1: reforcastcop no recoop.

3368
02:53:14,480 --> 02:53:19,200
Speaker 2: I never did that recoup or not refork. I never

3369
02:53:19,280 --> 02:53:21,480
Speaker 2: took I never took extra money from them.

3370
02:53:22,200 --> 02:53:24,880
Speaker 4: That's why I'm I think that that the respect I

3371
02:53:25,080 --> 02:53:29,000
Speaker 4: gain respecting I get from from Leon and from because

3372
02:53:29,000 --> 02:53:31,000
Speaker 4: I was one of the only clients who never asked

3373
02:53:31,040 --> 02:53:31,720
Speaker 4: for extra money.

3374
02:53:32,040 --> 02:53:34,080
Speaker 2: I used what they gave me.

3375
02:53:35,120 --> 02:53:38,680
Speaker 3: But what I did my thing was I bought my

3376
02:53:38,760 --> 02:53:43,360
Speaker 3: own studio. When I bought my own stood love early yeah,

3377
02:53:43,440 --> 02:53:48,280
Speaker 3: and I named something thirty second in Madison, US in

3378
02:53:48,360 --> 02:53:52,000
Speaker 3: Manhattan to yes, Wow, totally different.

3379
02:53:52,360 --> 02:53:55,640
Speaker 2: I think it's something totally different. And I it didn't

3380
02:53:55,680 --> 02:53:56,400
Speaker 2: seem like a man.

3381
02:53:57,440 --> 02:54:00,320
Speaker 3: It was called the hood laugh but uh, but it

3382
02:54:00,360 --> 02:54:04,080
Speaker 3: was a thirty second in Madison. And I would charge

3383
02:54:04,440 --> 02:54:07,680
Speaker 3: Depth Jam, Tommy boy, everybody who is doing business, but

3384
02:54:07,720 --> 02:54:08,520
Speaker 3: I charge him.

3385
02:54:08,400 --> 02:54:10,880
Speaker 2: On a different entity. And they never knew that I

3386
02:54:11,000 --> 02:54:12,440
Speaker 2: actually owned the students dope.

3387
02:54:17,200 --> 02:54:22,080
Speaker 3: And then then like other other clients started to catch on,

3388
02:54:22,280 --> 02:54:24,160
Speaker 3: like men League, you know, other people.

3389
02:54:24,160 --> 02:54:25,920
Speaker 2: It was like wait a minute. So I was like, Yo,

3390
02:54:26,000 --> 02:54:27,760
Speaker 2: what is quads charging you?

3391
02:54:27,800 --> 02:54:28,360
Speaker 1: What is sound on?

3392
02:54:28,480 --> 02:54:30,640
Speaker 3: Sound charge you with his daddy's house charging? They charge

3393
02:54:30,680 --> 02:54:32,520
Speaker 3: you this. I'll charge you this and I'll give you

3394
02:54:32,680 --> 02:54:33,240
Speaker 3: back half.

3395
02:54:34,080 --> 02:54:35,720
Speaker 1: So I just I had a whole.

3396
02:54:36,600 --> 02:54:37,520
Speaker 4: But that's the game.

3397
02:54:37,680 --> 02:54:41,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had old had kick. Yeah, that's what was

3398
02:54:41,680 --> 02:54:45,200
Speaker 2: going on in the labels, you know, I.

3399
02:54:45,200 --> 02:54:45,800
Speaker 4: Mean we got.

3400
02:54:47,640 --> 02:54:48,160
Speaker 1: What we did.

3401
02:54:48,360 --> 02:54:54,000
Speaker 4: Everybody made money that way. Everybody. You you the money is,

3402
02:54:54,240 --> 02:54:56,600
Speaker 4: don't forget it's coming from somebody else anyway. But I

3403
02:54:56,680 --> 02:54:59,440
Speaker 4: can get this for you, you know. Just I need

3404
02:54:59,520 --> 02:55:01,080
Speaker 4: this to get half of this back. That's what he

3405
02:55:01,640 --> 02:55:06,120
Speaker 4: was doing. Everybody was making money, is what happened. Put

3406
02:55:06,160 --> 02:55:10,480
Speaker 4: a hole on blast. But everybody did that, everybody and

3407
02:55:10,520 --> 02:55:13,960
Speaker 4: they still do it now. Everybody this is doing this.

3408
02:55:14,920 --> 02:55:18,320
Speaker 4: And the radio game was even crazier. Oh my god,

3409
02:55:18,520 --> 02:55:19,320
Speaker 4: it was disrespectful.

3410
02:55:19,320 --> 02:55:20,280
Speaker 3: It was dispectful back then.

3411
02:55:20,520 --> 02:55:21,640
Speaker 2: Charging on that got damn money.

3412
02:55:21,680 --> 02:55:24,680
Speaker 4: I was. I gave somebody thirty five thousand dollars. My

3413
02:55:24,760 --> 02:55:30,120
Speaker 4: ship came on a three A game in the morning. Yo,

3414
02:55:30,160 --> 02:55:33,040
Speaker 4: you got some spinds wet nigga, that buddy hurting none.

3415
02:55:39,920 --> 02:55:43,039
Speaker 4: I wasn't ready, but that's the game.

3416
02:55:44,040 --> 02:55:47,400
Speaker 3: Let me ask you, is to be all these like

3417
02:55:48,240 --> 02:55:51,879
Speaker 3: uh stories about hip hop, like what is it though?

3418
02:55:52,400 --> 02:55:53,160
Speaker 1: On Fox?

3419
02:55:53,920 --> 02:56:01,879
Speaker 3: Oh, Empire and all this seventy one sixty Varrak yeah,

3420
02:56:03,280 --> 02:56:03,720
Speaker 3: definit jam.

3421
02:56:03,840 --> 02:56:08,040
Speaker 2: That office was single handedly saved my life.

3422
02:56:09,080 --> 02:56:15,039
Speaker 4: Grand Grand Grand Green Studio, you know the cor service

3423
02:56:15,080 --> 02:56:18,800
Speaker 4: Grand Yes and X y Z when you spent on

3424
02:56:19,080 --> 02:56:19,800
Speaker 4: two months, I know.

3425
02:56:20,120 --> 02:56:21,840
Speaker 3: But let me just tell you something. I used to

3426
02:56:21,920 --> 02:56:24,280
Speaker 3: go there because the rush management was there. And this

3427
02:56:24,360 --> 02:56:26,080
Speaker 3: is how I got introduced to Chris Lightdy.

3428
02:56:26,879 --> 02:56:28,840
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you was was on the I was on Vio.

3429
02:56:29,800 --> 02:56:31,879
Speaker 1: He was there, and I wasn't on Death Jamber at

3430
02:56:31,920 --> 02:56:32,200
Speaker 1: that time.

3431
02:56:32,400 --> 02:56:34,520
Speaker 2: I was on Penalty. But I used to go to

3432
02:56:34,640 --> 02:56:35,640
Speaker 2: that office.

3433
02:56:37,080 --> 02:56:40,280
Speaker 3: I can get a haircut there, I could roll dice there,

3434
02:56:40,840 --> 02:56:42,120
Speaker 3: and I could buy weed there.

3435
02:56:43,520 --> 02:56:44,360
Speaker 2: I stopped hanging in.

3436
02:56:44,600 --> 02:56:48,440
Speaker 3: At Barrack, Yes, at Varick. I used to see Redman there.

3437
02:56:49,000 --> 02:56:54,680
Speaker 3: I used to see rush management there. To me, that

3438
02:56:54,879 --> 02:56:58,320
Speaker 3: is the quick essential hip hop story that should be told.

3439
02:56:59,400 --> 02:56:59,960
Speaker 3: What do you think?

3440
02:57:02,680 --> 02:57:05,560
Speaker 2: What about all the sex that was going on a

3441
02:57:05,600 --> 02:57:07,320
Speaker 2: minute out of control?

3442
02:57:07,920 --> 02:57:09,240
Speaker 3: Come on, what are you talking about?

3443
02:57:10,720 --> 02:57:14,199
Speaker 4: Because you're not mentioning that. Oh yeah you can't because

3444
02:57:14,200 --> 02:57:16,680
Speaker 4: you you know you you really beloved right now.

3445
02:57:16,680 --> 02:57:17,000
Speaker 6: But but.

3446
02:57:19,160 --> 02:57:29,520
Speaker 4: But but at the end of the day with the Staines, Wow.

3447
02:57:30,040 --> 02:57:31,480
Speaker 1: Yeah it was bad.

3448
02:57:32,160 --> 02:57:36,040
Speaker 4: But again, the story could be told on that block,

3449
02:57:37,320 --> 02:57:39,760
Speaker 4: but it could be told on Elizabeth Avenue. He was

3450
02:57:39,840 --> 02:57:43,879
Speaker 4: before you wasn't here. You probably was like, yeah, Elizabeth

3451
02:57:44,040 --> 02:57:50,120
Speaker 4: is where us started. At Elizabeth Elizabeth Street. Okay, any

3452
02:57:50,280 --> 02:57:52,160
Speaker 4: time you would go outside, you would see one d

3453
02:57:52,280 --> 02:57:54,879
Speaker 4: M c rock him e PM. You would see all

3454
02:57:54,920 --> 02:58:00,560
Speaker 4: of us outside ran everywhere. This is chilling.

3455
02:58:01,400 --> 02:58:05,480
Speaker 2: But Barrick was a whole dynamic of interns.

3456
02:58:07,120 --> 02:58:08,600
Speaker 4: Why you act like you shocked niggas?

3457
02:58:08,600 --> 02:58:12,199
Speaker 2: No, I didn't know. To me, this was like he's saying.

3458
02:58:12,520 --> 02:58:14,560
Speaker 1: This was like, you don't want to stay.

3459
02:58:14,560 --> 02:58:16,480
Speaker 4: I got the same one when you got there that

3460
02:58:16,640 --> 02:58:18,119
Speaker 4: was this was like great evinure.

3461
02:58:18,160 --> 02:58:20,920
Speaker 3: To me, I was like, wait a minute, I could

3462
02:58:20,959 --> 02:58:21,200
Speaker 3: get my.

3463
02:58:21,280 --> 02:58:24,440
Speaker 1: Hair cut, roll dice and buy weed at the same

3464
02:58:24,520 --> 02:58:26,560
Speaker 1: place as the hood. Fuck the hood.

3465
02:58:27,000 --> 02:58:28,880
Speaker 2: And and and it's safe, it's safe.

3466
02:58:29,200 --> 02:58:30,960
Speaker 4: I think that part. I think it's rough riders. There's

3467
02:58:31,240 --> 02:58:36,320
Speaker 4: there's there's murder Ink and then Randfather, and there's the

3468
02:58:36,400 --> 02:58:39,199
Speaker 4: Depth Squad, and there's and at that time that ship

3469
02:58:39,360 --> 02:58:42,760
Speaker 4: was on fire on so so you came. When did

3470
02:58:42,800 --> 02:58:43,760
Speaker 4: you get signed there?

3471
02:58:43,800 --> 02:58:43,959
Speaker 1: Then?

3472
02:58:44,480 --> 02:58:49,280
Speaker 3: Well, remember Chris Lidy picked me up nineteen ninety eight

3473
02:58:50,360 --> 02:58:56,960
Speaker 3: or ninety seven seven because because he he got me

3474
02:58:57,080 --> 02:58:58,840
Speaker 3: into the n R album, which was.

3475
02:58:58,840 --> 02:58:59,640
Speaker 2: My ninety nine.

3476
02:59:00,480 --> 02:59:02,960
Speaker 4: Hey, let's go for the real quick. This is I

3477
02:59:03,040 --> 02:59:05,920
Speaker 4: gotta tell you this, this is really you won't do

3478
02:59:06,000 --> 02:59:15,400
Speaker 4: this at all. Death Sham has me, the Death Squad

3479
02:59:15,480 --> 02:59:20,680
Speaker 4: and Oriega Right now, t R L was was big, right,

3480
02:59:20,920 --> 02:59:23,800
Speaker 4: m t V, m TV and Peter Gun's Lord, we

3481
02:59:23,879 --> 02:59:27,600
Speaker 4: got that ship out uptown right, so it's uptown Anthem,

3482
02:59:28,600 --> 02:59:32,000
Speaker 4: you know, it's what what uptown Anthem and sugar and

3483
02:59:32,360 --> 02:59:33,040
Speaker 4: it raps the light?

3484
02:59:33,680 --> 02:59:37,320
Speaker 2: Right, So we're in the meeting, so I don't care

3485
02:59:37,360 --> 02:59:37,920
Speaker 2: about that too.

3486
02:59:37,959 --> 02:59:41,560
Speaker 4: They're like, yeah, so yeah, we gotta make sure we

3487
02:59:41,640 --> 02:59:45,680
Speaker 4: have a little dilemma the Death Squad and Oreegle record

3488
02:59:45,720 --> 02:59:48,520
Speaker 4: and what what record? And and and we gotta see

3489
02:59:48,640 --> 02:59:51,240
Speaker 4: which one that we're gonna put to number one?

3490
02:59:51,640 --> 02:59:51,800
Speaker 1: Right.

3491
02:59:52,040 --> 02:59:57,960
Speaker 4: But I'm sitting there, you know, so they're talking talking

3492
02:59:58,280 --> 03:00:03,640
Speaker 4: there too. I'm like, okay, tell you what, we're gonna

3493
03:00:03,720 --> 03:00:07,280
Speaker 4: make NOIB number one. And then on the next couple

3494
03:00:07,360 --> 03:00:10,800
Speaker 4: of weeks when he comes starts coming down, we'll put

3495
03:00:10,879 --> 03:00:12,960
Speaker 4: y'all up there whatever that we never got a chance

3496
03:00:14,320 --> 03:00:17,320
Speaker 4: the direct it came down so nor we stayed up

3497
03:00:17,400 --> 03:00:20,039
Speaker 4: then at number one. And then when when he when

3498
03:00:20,080 --> 03:00:22,440
Speaker 4: he came down to number two, did they put Peter

3499
03:00:22,520 --> 03:00:23,440
Speaker 4: Gunns and the Lord Trek on it?

3500
03:00:23,520 --> 03:00:24,959
Speaker 2: So I never got a chance to be number one spot.

3501
03:00:25,480 --> 03:00:26,080
Speaker 1: Owe you lunch.

3502
03:00:29,360 --> 03:00:32,080
Speaker 2: Wait, this is c r L making those decisions. No

3503
03:00:32,280 --> 03:00:32,800
Speaker 2: depth share.

3504
03:00:33,240 --> 03:00:37,920
Speaker 4: Yes, I'll tell you what though, I ended up having

3505
03:00:37,920 --> 03:00:40,640
Speaker 4: a number one album in the country though, that's right,

3506
03:00:42,400 --> 03:00:43,320
Speaker 4: the album number one.

3507
03:00:43,560 --> 03:00:44,400
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie to you.

3508
03:00:44,680 --> 03:00:45,720
Speaker 2: Let me just tell you something.

3509
03:00:46,040 --> 03:00:49,160
Speaker 4: I don't think you remember that day though, sitting outside

3510
03:00:49,480 --> 03:00:54,320
Speaker 4: to at that whatever that outside. I think it was

3511
03:00:54,360 --> 03:00:56,920
Speaker 4: one of the spring breaks and we was all out

3512
03:00:56,959 --> 03:01:00,400
Speaker 4: there like doing the show. But I knew in my

3513
03:01:00,520 --> 03:01:02,920
Speaker 4: head like, yo, damn, okay, well in two weeks he's

3514
03:01:02,959 --> 03:01:06,000
Speaker 4: coming down. Now'm gonna get the spot. But it never happened.

3515
03:01:06,120 --> 03:01:06,680
Speaker 3: God damn, it.

3516
03:01:07,240 --> 03:01:07,960
Speaker 2: Makes no noise to me.

3517
03:01:08,040 --> 03:01:13,680
Speaker 3: Once again, I'm gonna be honest with you. Like that

3518
03:01:14,000 --> 03:01:20,760
Speaker 3: run that we keep talking about you dots effects red Man,

3519
03:01:20,920 --> 03:01:28,320
Speaker 3: red Man, Like how did that feel? Because I believe

3520
03:01:28,400 --> 03:01:35,040
Speaker 3: cash money no limit, even bad Boy rough Riders rocket

3521
03:01:35,120 --> 03:01:38,760
Speaker 3: for the kind of like based their murdering kind of

3522
03:01:38,840 --> 03:01:40,000
Speaker 3: base theate thing off of that.

3523
03:01:40,160 --> 03:01:42,840
Speaker 1: I think his squad was a big like example for

3524
03:01:42,879 --> 03:01:43,640
Speaker 1: a lot of crews.

3525
03:01:43,879 --> 03:01:46,600
Speaker 4: And we'll definitely put the Wu Tang clan because cause

3526
03:01:46,600 --> 03:01:47,520
Speaker 4: they show it in like in.

3527
03:01:47,520 --> 03:01:52,880
Speaker 1: The series, not just everybody's like like, I was influenced

3528
03:01:52,879 --> 03:01:53,800
Speaker 1: by even more.

3529
03:01:55,080 --> 03:01:58,320
Speaker 3: And I asked people this all the time while you

3530
03:01:58,480 --> 03:02:00,160
Speaker 3: was making history, did you know you.

3531
03:02:00,240 --> 03:02:00,959
Speaker 2: Was making history?

3532
03:02:02,680 --> 03:02:05,320
Speaker 4: Nah? I just knew that. The other question you asked,

3533
03:02:05,440 --> 03:02:08,400
Speaker 4: did we know that it was ill like when it

3534
03:02:08,520 --> 03:02:09,959
Speaker 4: was going on, I'm like, hell, yeah.

3535
03:02:09,840 --> 03:02:10,040
Speaker 3: We did.

3536
03:02:10,200 --> 03:02:11,840
Speaker 4: Like yo, we did look at this because we all

3537
03:02:11,879 --> 03:02:14,280
Speaker 4: because again to be on the billboard charts at the

3538
03:02:14,360 --> 03:02:16,880
Speaker 4: same time you go to do something, you see through

3539
03:02:17,040 --> 03:02:17,560
Speaker 4: your groups.

3540
03:02:18,080 --> 03:02:21,280
Speaker 1: Did anybody else influence that type of structure? I mean,

3541
03:02:21,320 --> 03:02:24,800
Speaker 1: I know, I see, I see had Ryan syndicate. That

3542
03:02:24,959 --> 03:02:25,720
Speaker 1: was the closest thing.

3543
03:02:25,800 --> 03:02:30,480
Speaker 4: Maybe yeah, But what we did was yeah, not say yeah,

3544
03:02:30,760 --> 03:02:31,280
Speaker 4: we didn't you.

3545
03:02:31,360 --> 03:02:33,200
Speaker 2: Know, like anybody else in No.

3546
03:02:33,360 --> 03:02:37,000
Speaker 4: And then EPMD had three consecutive number one albums in

3547
03:02:37,040 --> 03:02:43,880
Speaker 4: a row. You know, That's what I said before. My

3548
03:02:44,000 --> 03:02:47,440
Speaker 4: colleagues can talk about what they did, though, but consistency.

3549
03:02:47,480 --> 03:02:50,240
Speaker 4: Don't forget we broke up. So imagine that five years,

3550
03:02:50,400 --> 03:02:54,560
Speaker 4: gred Man, imagine from nineteen ninety two to ninety seven,

3551
03:02:54,640 --> 03:02:55,800
Speaker 4: that we had them five years.

3552
03:02:55,840 --> 03:02:58,760
Speaker 1: Do you think do you think the breakup fucked up

3553
03:02:58,800 --> 03:02:59,680
Speaker 1: a lot of business?

3554
03:02:59,720 --> 03:03:01,920
Speaker 2: That the his squad and the crews come in.

3555
03:03:03,120 --> 03:03:05,760
Speaker 4: You gotta understand niggas can say that they was they

3556
03:03:05,800 --> 03:03:07,360
Speaker 4: were going to come in all types of ship. But

3557
03:03:07,760 --> 03:03:10,000
Speaker 4: now when when his squad was there, that you had

3558
03:03:10,040 --> 03:03:13,240
Speaker 4: to be very careful about what you was making and

3559
03:03:13,400 --> 03:03:14,960
Speaker 4: what you're going to be able to make to come

3560
03:03:15,040 --> 03:03:16,959
Speaker 4: in there because we was not going to.

3561
03:03:17,000 --> 03:03:18,280
Speaker 3: Stop m.

3562
03:03:20,720 --> 03:03:22,200
Speaker 2: And I don't know who I would have signed then.

3563
03:03:22,240 --> 03:03:23,760
Speaker 2: My ear was I had I was.

3564
03:03:23,840 --> 03:03:26,160
Speaker 4: I don't know who I could have had because because

3565
03:03:26,200 --> 03:03:28,520
Speaker 4: I was looking at we was looking to keep building.

3566
03:03:29,000 --> 03:03:32,400
Speaker 4: You know, it could have been it could have been somebody,

3567
03:03:34,879 --> 03:03:37,520
Speaker 4: but we don't know who it could have been. I

3568
03:03:37,640 --> 03:03:40,120
Speaker 4: was trying to because at that time I could have been.

3569
03:03:40,200 --> 03:03:43,160
Speaker 4: We was making I was making music every fucking day,

3570
03:03:43,520 --> 03:03:45,280
Speaker 4: so so the production was going to be there.

3571
03:03:45,520 --> 03:03:47,360
Speaker 2: I had it, so I don't know who I was

3572
03:03:47,360 --> 03:03:48,240
Speaker 2: going to be able to put down.

3573
03:03:48,320 --> 03:03:51,640
Speaker 1: And it was a highly respected crew. Highly respected.

3574
03:03:51,840 --> 03:03:55,160
Speaker 2: Again, like I told, there was nobody it's only a

3575
03:03:55,240 --> 03:03:55,800
Speaker 2: few of us.

3576
03:03:56,520 --> 03:03:59,879
Speaker 4: Nobody was around it for any competition that I saw

3577
03:04:00,080 --> 03:04:03,320
Speaker 4: that was going to make me because now I've done

3578
03:04:03,400 --> 03:04:07,800
Speaker 4: some past my clients, I mean my my colleagues. Because

3579
03:04:07,879 --> 03:04:11,040
Speaker 4: then because we're consistent and now we number one and

3580
03:04:11,360 --> 03:04:14,120
Speaker 4: that and then that Crossover came out. You know, that

3581
03:04:14,240 --> 03:04:16,200
Speaker 4: was our biggest record. You know, then all of a

3582
03:04:16,240 --> 03:04:19,760
Speaker 4: sudden we got some niggas over here, the Dots effects

3583
03:04:19,840 --> 03:04:20,880
Speaker 4: kids and then the Red Man come.

3584
03:04:20,959 --> 03:04:24,040
Speaker 2: He was like it was it was bad. It was

3585
03:04:24,160 --> 03:04:25,800
Speaker 2: bad in a good way.

3586
03:04:25,959 --> 03:04:29,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, in a good way. Okay, we are we done

3587
03:04:29,280 --> 03:04:31,320
Speaker 4: now because we gotta take you gotta take a ship.

3588
03:04:31,360 --> 03:04:35,360
Speaker 2: We gotta take more. I got no no, let me,

3589
03:04:35,480 --> 03:04:39,560
Speaker 2: we got some going. Let's let's talk about Stay Real

3590
03:04:41,040 --> 03:04:41,440
Speaker 2: the record.

3591
03:04:41,480 --> 03:04:41,680
Speaker 6: But what.

3592
03:04:44,360 --> 03:04:45,760
Speaker 2: I'm trying to see what you guys, where are you

3593
03:04:45,760 --> 03:04:47,320
Speaker 2: going with that talking about the record Stay Real?

3594
03:04:48,160 --> 03:04:48,440
Speaker 4: Okay?

3595
03:04:48,600 --> 03:04:49,440
Speaker 6: What? What?

3596
03:04:50,320 --> 03:04:51,400
Speaker 2: How did you make that record?

3597
03:04:51,840 --> 03:05:01,640
Speaker 3: The want to motivation behind that Stay realm.

3598
03:04:59,200 --> 03:05:01,160
Speaker 4: It was a continue racing the course over That's what

3599
03:05:01,480 --> 03:05:06,199
Speaker 4: the lyrics showing you that mother everybody who wasn't keeping

3600
03:05:06,240 --> 03:05:08,080
Speaker 4: a will, that was because you know, a getting people

3601
03:05:08,280 --> 03:05:11,640
Speaker 4: was hip hop was changing. And my version because again

3602
03:05:11,720 --> 03:05:14,480
Speaker 4: you had the license coming people with whatever, people start

3603
03:05:14,520 --> 03:05:16,720
Speaker 4: wearing suit's getting sexy, the whole nine whatever it's and that.

3604
03:05:17,160 --> 03:05:18,920
Speaker 4: So I just felt like, you know, I got to

3605
03:05:19,040 --> 03:05:21,120
Speaker 4: say something because it was like it was getting ready

3606
03:05:21,120 --> 03:05:23,840
Speaker 4: to change, you know. But it really was a continuation

3607
03:05:23,959 --> 03:05:26,000
Speaker 4: of that right there period, and I did. I was

3608
03:05:26,040 --> 03:05:28,760
Speaker 4: in Georgia then, so I was calling myself, I was

3609
03:05:28,800 --> 03:05:29,720
Speaker 4: in Georgian.

3610
03:05:29,360 --> 03:05:33,040
Speaker 2: And I was, I tell you what, this is.

3611
03:05:33,040 --> 03:05:36,880
Speaker 4: The illly shit Redman kind of kind of woke me

3612
03:05:37,000 --> 03:05:41,360
Speaker 4: up in Georgia because I had got to a point

3613
03:05:41,400 --> 03:05:44,600
Speaker 4: where I got so comfortable, I started getting real happy

3614
03:05:45,280 --> 03:05:48,680
Speaker 4: and I was playing them some happy ship and I

3615
03:05:48,879 --> 03:05:52,280
Speaker 4: was I was going left because because I was, I

3616
03:05:52,400 --> 03:05:54,360
Speaker 4: was with left eye. So I was like, you know,

3617
03:05:55,440 --> 03:06:00,680
Speaker 4: it was day left eye. I lived with her, don't begause,

3618
03:06:00,680 --> 03:06:04,000
Speaker 4: I'm broke. So I had to find some something place

3619
03:06:04,080 --> 03:06:08,880
Speaker 4: to sleep. I slept. I stayed in her. She had

3620
03:06:08,920 --> 03:06:12,280
Speaker 4: a hotel. Hey, but y'all was dating right right, Okay,

3621
03:06:13,800 --> 03:06:18,440
Speaker 4: she had when I moved to Georgia. That's how I

3622
03:06:18,560 --> 03:06:22,879
Speaker 4: met Illegal. Illegal was signed to her. So now I'm

3623
03:06:23,000 --> 03:06:28,000
Speaker 4: uncle Eric. So I go to the place she lives

3624
03:06:28,040 --> 03:06:31,160
Speaker 4: in the in the in the like a hotel type

3625
03:06:31,160 --> 03:06:31,520
Speaker 4: of sweet.

3626
03:06:31,560 --> 03:06:33,840
Speaker 1: Wait, didn't you think the youngsters when we said illegal

3627
03:06:34,080 --> 03:06:34,520
Speaker 1: the youngsters.

3628
03:06:35,120 --> 03:06:41,240
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say the youngsters to mom was death squad.

3629
03:06:42,600 --> 03:06:47,120
Speaker 4: So so what where I'm at with that? You?

3630
03:06:47,840 --> 03:06:48,000
Speaker 3: Yeah?

3631
03:06:48,440 --> 03:06:49,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I was getting solved.

3632
03:06:50,440 --> 03:06:53,400
Speaker 2: My whole ship was different because the LESSI.

3633
03:06:55,000 --> 03:06:57,000
Speaker 4: If you, if you go back to my first album,

3634
03:06:57,040 --> 03:06:59,480
Speaker 4: I had a song called every now and then I

3635
03:06:59,600 --> 03:07:01,760
Speaker 4: get crazy is it in the chorus?

3636
03:07:02,840 --> 03:07:05,840
Speaker 2: I couldn't hear my sound like that, even sounds like TLC.

3637
03:07:06,200 --> 03:07:10,920
Speaker 4: It wasn't the line. But but I was doing this

3638
03:07:11,120 --> 03:07:15,120
Speaker 4: not knowing. And then I had one of my other

3639
03:07:15,480 --> 03:07:18,120
Speaker 4: rhymes on the song. I was like, I got my

3640
03:07:18,200 --> 03:07:20,760
Speaker 4: hat to the back, but my pants down below whatever

3641
03:07:20,879 --> 03:07:25,360
Speaker 4: I was, I didn't know I was doing this. I

3642
03:07:25,520 --> 03:07:27,320
Speaker 4: was just like a getting getting soft.

3643
03:07:27,920 --> 03:07:29,000
Speaker 2: You put condom like this?

3644
03:07:29,320 --> 03:07:34,440
Speaker 3: No, So Ressie was like, yot, she must have had

3645
03:07:34,520 --> 03:07:34,880
Speaker 3: that thing.

3646
03:07:35,320 --> 03:07:42,039
Speaker 2: So Ressie was like Recidia. So Reggie was like, had

3647
03:07:42,120 --> 03:07:42,720
Speaker 2: you turns?

3648
03:07:43,400 --> 03:07:45,040
Speaker 4: Nobody knew it? To A two show with on Hot

3649
03:07:45,160 --> 03:07:47,280
Speaker 4: ninety seven says oh yeah, that's the time when every

3650
03:07:47,320 --> 03:07:50,680
Speaker 4: someone was left out, like niggas already know the story

3651
03:07:50,680 --> 03:07:53,320
Speaker 4: because two shorts and said it out loud already but

3652
03:07:54,440 --> 03:07:57,560
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, I was not I

3653
03:07:57,600 --> 03:08:00,240
Speaker 4: didn't have Hitt Switches. I didn't have Stayed Real, didn't

3654
03:08:00,240 --> 03:08:02,680
Speaker 4: have none of that ship. All my ship was kind

3655
03:08:02,680 --> 03:08:09,320
Speaker 4: of pretty Reggie real Low not wanting to be assertive

3656
03:08:09,520 --> 03:08:12,840
Speaker 4: to me, like yo, He's like, yo, you know those

3657
03:08:12,879 --> 03:08:15,760
Speaker 4: are cool though, man, but you know that type of ship,

3658
03:08:15,879 --> 03:08:19,360
Speaker 4: you know it's cool. I would never thought that he

3659
03:08:19,360 --> 03:08:22,879
Speaker 4: would say that to me. You know, I'm producing you and.

3660
03:08:25,480 --> 03:08:26,879
Speaker 2: That's dope. That's a good friend.

3661
03:08:28,040 --> 03:08:33,760
Speaker 4: And next thing, you know, hitting switches that's in my notes,

3662
03:08:33,800 --> 03:08:36,640
Speaker 4: by the way, and then Stay Real then Hostile I was.

3663
03:08:37,440 --> 03:08:39,480
Speaker 4: I got back hitting switches in my notes.

3664
03:08:40,480 --> 03:08:42,080
Speaker 1: I got it.

3665
03:08:42,959 --> 03:08:46,440
Speaker 4: But if he didn't do that, I would have had

3666
03:08:46,480 --> 03:08:50,600
Speaker 4: a soft album on my debut I would have had

3667
03:08:50,760 --> 03:08:52,680
Speaker 4: I wouldn't have hitt Switches. I wouldn't have had Stay,

3668
03:08:52,840 --> 03:08:56,840
Speaker 4: I would have had Hostile because my mind was someplace

3669
03:08:56,920 --> 03:08:59,920
Speaker 4: I was. I was making the kid.

3670
03:09:00,160 --> 03:09:00,480
Speaker 1: I don't know.

3671
03:09:00,959 --> 03:09:06,280
Speaker 2: Maybe it was man U was t l seed, which

3672
03:09:06,400 --> 03:09:11,480
Speaker 2: is good. It looks good kind. He was living and

3673
03:09:11,640 --> 03:09:13,720
Speaker 2: left out. I don't think I've ever met left eye.

3674
03:09:14,400 --> 03:09:15,320
Speaker 4: This was mad cool.

3675
03:09:15,400 --> 03:09:18,440
Speaker 2: She seemed like she was mad cool, crazy, crazy cool.

3676
03:09:18,920 --> 03:09:21,280
Speaker 4: All of them is cool to see how they all

3677
03:09:21,480 --> 03:09:24,800
Speaker 4: was mad cool, like, don't forget I'm new to the city,

3678
03:09:25,280 --> 03:09:26,720
Speaker 4: you know, Like I said, for I got a thousand

3679
03:09:26,720 --> 03:09:29,880
Speaker 4: dollars in the credit and the America Spress card trying

3680
03:09:29,879 --> 03:09:30,400
Speaker 4: to get through.

3681
03:09:30,480 --> 03:09:32,440
Speaker 2: See how'm making you know what I'm saying. Where were

3682
03:09:32,520 --> 03:09:35,320
Speaker 2: they in their career when you mets, Oh, they were

3683
03:09:35,320 --> 03:09:37,760
Speaker 2: already huge waterfalls.

3684
03:09:37,240 --> 03:09:40,959
Speaker 4: And look this is this isus.

3685
03:09:42,560 --> 03:09:43,959
Speaker 2: I'm go chasing the waterfalls.

3686
03:09:44,120 --> 03:09:49,480
Speaker 4: This is nineteen ninety three. Oh yeah it is they

3687
03:09:49,480 --> 03:09:54,119
Speaker 4: are you mongous? And again at the end of the day,

3688
03:09:54,760 --> 03:09:56,800
Speaker 4: everybody was going through what they was going through, So

3689
03:09:57,080 --> 03:09:59,920
Speaker 4: I just happened to be again illegal was her.

3690
03:10:01,200 --> 03:10:07,160
Speaker 3: Wow, we talked about El scar Face record. We talked

3691
03:10:07,160 --> 03:10:09,240
Speaker 3: about that already, right or did we not? Ll scar

3692
03:10:09,360 --> 03:10:09,880
Speaker 3: Face record?

3693
03:10:10,000 --> 03:10:10,200
Speaker 2: Yeah?

3694
03:10:11,600 --> 03:10:12,080
Speaker 3: Do ray me?

3695
03:10:13,080 --> 03:10:15,560
Speaker 4: Oh, doray me. Yeah that was what does that mean?

3696
03:10:16,280 --> 03:10:20,720
Speaker 4: That's the chorus? That was the old school do Yeah,

3697
03:10:20,760 --> 03:10:22,160
Speaker 4: that's what he was. That's opera ship.

3698
03:10:22,280 --> 03:10:23,320
Speaker 3: I don't know that means?

3699
03:10:24,920 --> 03:10:26,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know that in school?

3700
03:10:27,160 --> 03:10:27,840
Speaker 2: Come on, bro.

3701
03:10:29,560 --> 03:10:34,440
Speaker 4: Oh he knows it in Spanish. No, you're right, yeah,

3702
03:10:34,959 --> 03:10:38,000
Speaker 4: that's what that was. That was cool saying that that

3703
03:10:38,120 --> 03:10:39,560
Speaker 4: was something that anybody.

3704
03:10:39,280 --> 03:10:41,400
Speaker 3: Know but you yeah, I mean I don't know. I

3705
03:10:41,440 --> 03:10:44,640
Speaker 3: ain't going to that school. I was in a special school,

3706
03:10:45,520 --> 03:10:47,000
Speaker 3: the Yellow Bus, And I don't mind.

3707
03:10:47,600 --> 03:10:48,920
Speaker 2: I don't know you an artist?

3708
03:10:49,000 --> 03:10:52,480
Speaker 4: You never heard Doray met Yeah, that's what he was doing.

3709
03:10:52,560 --> 03:10:55,840
Speaker 4: He was like making dog get this bread. It's the infrared. Hey,

3710
03:10:56,280 --> 03:10:58,680
Speaker 4: he was just doing it as a routine, trying to

3711
03:10:58,959 --> 03:11:01,320
Speaker 4: trying to make something up, was being being slick with

3712
03:11:01,400 --> 03:11:01,880
Speaker 4: the word play.

3713
03:11:02,360 --> 03:11:04,879
Speaker 1: So that was that's fire.

3714
03:11:06,120 --> 03:11:09,640
Speaker 4: Street you made. You bring that up because I love it?

3715
03:11:10,040 --> 03:11:12,480
Speaker 4: So oh, I got a chance to go work with

3716
03:11:12,600 --> 03:11:13,080
Speaker 4: NAS again.

3717
03:11:13,160 --> 03:11:13,800
Speaker 1: So I go to L. E.

3718
03:11:13,959 --> 03:11:16,320
Speaker 2: S Studio, I bring the Street Hot there to play

3719
03:11:16,400 --> 03:11:19,000
Speaker 2: for Virginia No the one I see that.

3720
03:11:19,040 --> 03:11:20,720
Speaker 4: That was here in New York and Long Island, Okay,

3721
03:11:20,800 --> 03:11:23,200
Speaker 4: okay whatever. I played that song for m because I

3722
03:11:23,240 --> 03:11:25,720
Speaker 4: wanted him to hear it. He didn't give a funk

3723
03:11:25,720 --> 03:11:27,480
Speaker 4: about what I was saying. He's like, can I get

3724
03:11:27,520 --> 03:11:30,879
Speaker 4: that record or naves?

3725
03:11:30,959 --> 03:11:31,240
Speaker 1: Okay?

3726
03:11:31,440 --> 03:11:32,560
Speaker 4: And I didn't give it to him.

3727
03:11:33,040 --> 03:11:33,320
Speaker 2: Again.

3728
03:11:33,440 --> 03:11:35,520
Speaker 1: You've been front of the NAS your whole career.

3729
03:11:38,560 --> 03:11:40,480
Speaker 4: You just bring back memories of that because I played

3730
03:11:40,520 --> 03:11:42,560
Speaker 4: it for him, and you did. And all I do

3731
03:11:42,720 --> 03:11:44,360
Speaker 4: is give to because I ain't really need it, and

3732
03:11:44,440 --> 03:11:47,039
Speaker 4: my shit didn't go away anyway, but he came.

3733
03:11:48,760 --> 03:11:50,320
Speaker 3: Came back into the ap M D album.

3734
03:11:53,640 --> 03:11:54,360
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.

3735
03:11:55,560 --> 03:11:58,760
Speaker 4: But yeah, you know what, that's right. So he came

3736
03:11:58,840 --> 03:11:59,760
Speaker 4: back and got me anyway.

3737
03:12:02,120 --> 03:12:03,440
Speaker 2: I feel like we should make no noise of that.

3738
03:12:07,560 --> 03:12:09,160
Speaker 3: But you run on nas twice.

3739
03:12:09,840 --> 03:12:10,080
Speaker 1: Damn.

3740
03:12:11,040 --> 03:12:12,920
Speaker 4: I ain't really fun him. I just the fact that

3741
03:12:14,040 --> 03:12:15,920
Speaker 4: he might maybe he was serious, maybe he wasn't. But

3742
03:12:15,959 --> 03:12:17,840
Speaker 4: I played the record for him because I had to

3743
03:12:17,920 --> 03:12:20,200
Speaker 4: sample him, and he's like, what's up with that?

3744
03:12:24,600 --> 03:12:25,480
Speaker 2: I was going to ask you.

3745
03:12:27,520 --> 03:12:30,000
Speaker 3: I think you already answered this, but maybe this one

3746
03:12:30,120 --> 03:12:34,200
Speaker 3: that we didn't speak about. I remember I did a

3747
03:12:34,600 --> 03:12:41,039
Speaker 3: KANDU which is and come up to me and said,

3748
03:12:41,240 --> 03:12:43,480
Speaker 3: I got this girl that wanted to do the West

3749
03:12:43,560 --> 03:12:47,680
Speaker 3: Indian version of it. All right, cool whatever, whatever, and

3750
03:12:48,360 --> 03:12:51,760
Speaker 3: it was there was it was gonna say Barbados, you know,

3751
03:12:52,720 --> 03:12:55,240
Speaker 3: like Turan k Goos, like ship like that, you know,

3752
03:12:55,360 --> 03:12:56,640
Speaker 3: trinidadad Jamaica.

3753
03:12:57,360 --> 03:13:01,920
Speaker 2: Right, it was Rihanna. What she wasn't even at the time.

3754
03:13:01,959 --> 03:13:04,040
Speaker 4: I know that, I know, I know, I know, I know,

3755
03:13:05,320 --> 03:13:07,039
Speaker 4: so so I was like, yeah, no problem.

3756
03:13:07,360 --> 03:13:07,800
Speaker 1: And then.

3757
03:13:09,760 --> 03:13:11,760
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, she just wants fifteen grand and

3758
03:13:11,840 --> 03:13:13,800
Speaker 3: I was just like at the time I had what

3759
03:13:14,000 --> 03:13:14,600
Speaker 3: she Wants?

3760
03:13:15,040 --> 03:13:16,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, what was she famous?

3761
03:13:17,240 --> 03:13:19,800
Speaker 1: She had the song part of the Yeah, okay, that

3762
03:13:20,200 --> 03:13:21,800
Speaker 1: song replay.

3763
03:13:22,360 --> 03:13:26,760
Speaker 9: That said part of the river, Yeah, yeah on the river.

3764
03:13:26,920 --> 03:13:30,680
Speaker 9: You know, no, I said part of the river Regga

3765
03:13:30,800 --> 03:13:33,959
Speaker 9: joins me. So biggest mistake of my career.

3766
03:13:34,959 --> 03:13:37,960
Speaker 3: So you got one of those. That's the biggest. That's

3767
03:13:38,240 --> 03:13:41,040
Speaker 3: one of my biggest stakes. You named some, But is

3768
03:13:41,080 --> 03:13:45,520
Speaker 3: there one that you didn't name to night that you think.

3769
03:13:46,840 --> 03:13:48,199
Speaker 4: It's like, No, this is the biggest.

3770
03:13:48,440 --> 03:13:49,280
Speaker 2: Nahs is the biggest.

3771
03:13:49,280 --> 03:13:52,720
Speaker 4: Okay, to this day, I still again, I can't believe

3772
03:13:52,720 --> 03:13:56,240
Speaker 4: that that EPMD record happened, you know, because but again

3773
03:13:56,800 --> 03:13:59,920
Speaker 4: me not working and doing any produced records on him.

3774
03:14:00,720 --> 03:14:02,880
Speaker 4: That's one thing I wish I had inside my road,

3775
03:14:03,120 --> 03:14:09,280
Speaker 4: inside my catalogue is him is Yeah, It's gonna happen.

3776
03:14:09,280 --> 03:14:10,640
Speaker 4: I ain't the only one that said it though, but

3777
03:14:11,240 --> 03:14:13,279
Speaker 4: mad people say about him.

3778
03:14:13,560 --> 03:14:15,800
Speaker 1: Like meaning meaning like they presented him.

3779
03:14:16,360 --> 03:14:18,640
Speaker 4: No just to work with him, you know, I have

3780
03:14:18,720 --> 03:14:20,600
Speaker 4: to be able to say but I work with but

3781
03:14:21,480 --> 03:14:23,000
Speaker 4: we just say I have a record.

3782
03:14:23,000 --> 03:14:26,680
Speaker 2: That I made for him, right, well, let's speak it

3783
03:14:26,720 --> 03:14:27,960
Speaker 2: into existence now.

3784
03:14:28,080 --> 03:14:31,880
Speaker 4: Hell yeah on my album, I don't think Wow he

3785
03:14:32,160 --> 03:14:33,560
Speaker 4: made all the albums he made.

3786
03:14:33,840 --> 03:14:36,080
Speaker 2: Nah, he's still got so much music. I feel.

3787
03:14:36,080 --> 03:14:37,280
Speaker 4: I don't think. I don't think he coming up. I

3788
03:14:37,280 --> 03:14:38,960
Speaker 4: don't think he's coming up for a while. And he

3789
03:14:39,040 --> 03:14:41,000
Speaker 4: did four or five back to back.

3790
03:14:41,080 --> 03:14:43,800
Speaker 2: I think he's I think he's gonna go even further.

3791
03:14:44,080 --> 03:14:44,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he is.

3792
03:14:45,280 --> 03:14:48,120
Speaker 2: You can be honest. I think I think you know

3793
03:14:48,240 --> 03:14:49,000
Speaker 2: what I think.

3794
03:14:49,080 --> 03:14:53,200
Speaker 1: So, I think he's enjoying he's he's on a streak too.

3795
03:14:53,320 --> 03:14:53,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

3796
03:14:53,560 --> 03:14:56,720
Speaker 3: I think he's enjoying that independency and he's enjoying what

3797
03:14:57,000 --> 03:14:58,360
Speaker 3: me and you spoke about earlier.

3798
03:14:58,640 --> 03:15:01,520
Speaker 2: We spoke about earlier. Excuse me with Fad Joe, he.

3799
03:15:01,600 --> 03:15:04,080
Speaker 4: Said that, he said, he said, I'm making records because

3800
03:15:04,120 --> 03:15:04,520
Speaker 4: I want to.

3801
03:15:04,640 --> 03:15:06,200
Speaker 3: He want to. Yeah, yeah, you don't know. I think

3802
03:15:06,280 --> 03:15:08,680
Speaker 3: that was giving Nas that freedom right now.

3803
03:15:09,040 --> 03:15:11,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think that he's doing a thing because again,

3804
03:15:11,520 --> 03:15:14,280
Speaker 4: Nas got so much dope ship for you know, the

3805
03:15:14,520 --> 03:15:16,360
Speaker 4: money that he making, the dimensions that he makes. I

3806
03:15:16,400 --> 03:15:17,640
Speaker 4: don't know he wanted to be.

3807
03:15:17,760 --> 03:15:19,240
Speaker 1: He got a casino in Queens.

3808
03:15:19,280 --> 03:15:25,160
Speaker 2: He about to bill God damn it. He's not such

3809
03:15:25,160 --> 03:15:29,920
Speaker 2: a great exactly. But I'm gonna be honest.

3810
03:15:32,080 --> 03:15:35,200
Speaker 3: With Fad Joe said to me yesterday, made sense to

3811
03:15:35,320 --> 03:15:39,760
Speaker 3: what NAS has been doing, doing something because you want

3812
03:15:39,800 --> 03:15:43,920
Speaker 3: to do Because we gotta remember a part of us,

3813
03:15:44,400 --> 03:15:48,440
Speaker 3: all of us real artists, probably would have still rapped

3814
03:15:48,440 --> 03:15:51,560
Speaker 3: if we didn't make money, like we probably would have

3815
03:15:51,600 --> 03:15:53,080
Speaker 3: still like did it as a hobby.

3816
03:15:53,160 --> 03:15:55,119
Speaker 1: Maybe it wouldn't have been you know what I mean.

3817
03:15:55,240 --> 03:16:00,280
Speaker 3: But my first like you just said, you had signed

3818
03:16:00,280 --> 03:16:02,840
Speaker 3: for seven hundred and fifty dollars, I got signed five thousand.

3819
03:16:03,360 --> 03:16:06,480
Speaker 3: But we basically was doing it for the love then, right.

3820
03:16:06,720 --> 03:16:09,280
Speaker 3: We didn't make money then, and then we made it

3821
03:16:09,360 --> 03:16:15,800
Speaker 3: into a business. So uh, I love.

3822
03:16:17,400 --> 03:16:24,080
Speaker 1: Yah, I love it. I really shure me. I love

3823
03:16:26,160 --> 03:16:26,600
Speaker 1: so bat.

3824
03:16:26,840 --> 03:16:34,240
Speaker 4: I'm hot, No, I'm hot as this again. Having the

3825
03:16:34,360 --> 03:16:37,960
Speaker 4: Marvin Gaye try to you know what's bugged out? People said,

3826
03:16:38,000 --> 03:16:41,680
Speaker 4: I tried to strike lightning twice. I just happened to

3827
03:16:41,720 --> 03:16:43,960
Speaker 4: have the record on there. Of course the label let's

3828
03:16:44,000 --> 03:16:47,800
Speaker 4: go with that One's what I'm hot. Oh. I did

3829
03:16:47,840 --> 03:16:50,000
Speaker 4: the Marvin Gary Body, but since I fucked around and

3830
03:16:50,480 --> 03:16:51,959
Speaker 4: had another one, it worked.

3831
03:16:53,360 --> 03:16:56,320
Speaker 2: It didn't work work, but again it did what need

3832
03:16:56,360 --> 03:16:57,360
Speaker 2: to do. It didn't need to do.

3833
03:16:57,520 --> 03:17:02,480
Speaker 4: But that's I'm walking around with the samples making records,

3834
03:17:02,520 --> 03:17:05,280
Speaker 4: don't know that I want to actually use it, right,

3835
03:17:05,560 --> 03:17:07,880
Speaker 4: And I just had the acapellas. If it's fun to

3836
03:17:07,959 --> 03:17:09,200
Speaker 4: fuck with to be chopping them, you.

3837
03:17:09,240 --> 03:17:15,960
Speaker 3: Know, that's a that's a question for me. Is we

3838
03:17:16,080 --> 03:17:22,800
Speaker 3: talked about you getting you're publishing right, but you also

3839
03:17:22,959 --> 03:17:26,160
Speaker 3: sample a lot of times when you sample, people want

3840
03:17:26,240 --> 03:17:28,160
Speaker 3: one hundred percent that published.

3841
03:17:28,320 --> 03:17:28,920
Speaker 4: Did they take it?

3842
03:17:29,600 --> 03:17:29,640
Speaker 1: So?

3843
03:17:31,200 --> 03:17:33,360
Speaker 3: How many times have you sampled and they asked for

3844
03:17:33,400 --> 03:17:34,240
Speaker 3: one hundred percent of that?

3845
03:17:34,520 --> 03:17:42,160
Speaker 4: Publisher who asks epm D got real blessed back then

3846
03:17:42,200 --> 03:17:45,400
Speaker 4: because we got we didn't clear Roger, we didn't clear

3847
03:17:45,440 --> 03:17:49,320
Speaker 4: every early and before sampling. But yeah, but they still

3848
03:17:49,800 --> 03:17:51,920
Speaker 4: came at us. But just like for ten thousand dollars

3849
03:17:52,600 --> 03:17:55,200
Speaker 4: the small ship, you know what I'm saying. But the

3850
03:17:55,280 --> 03:17:57,920
Speaker 4: people that take the one hundred percent, you have to

3851
03:17:58,000 --> 03:18:01,160
Speaker 4: really want it. Like the RESU bought dogs to me right,

3852
03:18:01,200 --> 03:18:03,359
Speaker 4: Well that was one hundred.

3853
03:18:03,080 --> 03:18:03,760
Speaker 2: Percent by.

3854
03:18:05,160 --> 03:18:06,000
Speaker 4: By Isaac Hayes.

3855
03:18:06,280 --> 03:18:07,440
Speaker 3: Wow wow.

3856
03:18:08,000 --> 03:18:10,520
Speaker 4: But Jay liked it. He wanted so bad he said,

3857
03:18:10,520 --> 03:18:13,280
Speaker 4: go ahead and take it, you know, because sometimes people

3858
03:18:13,480 --> 03:18:16,080
Speaker 4: take that one hundred funds out how bad you want

3859
03:18:16,120 --> 03:18:20,960
Speaker 4: that record, you know, hmhmm, But they'll take it.

3860
03:18:21,480 --> 03:18:23,960
Speaker 2: But again like like, like, that's what me.

3861
03:18:24,280 --> 03:18:27,520
Speaker 4: You know that we offered to Tupaca estate, go ahead

3862
03:18:27,520 --> 03:18:29,160
Speaker 4: and take it because because.

3863
03:18:28,879 --> 03:18:33,320
Speaker 3: The hype are it lasts longer for me, the importance

3864
03:18:33,360 --> 03:18:35,280
Speaker 3: of the record for you. Yeah, but you said you

3865
03:18:35,360 --> 03:18:38,000
Speaker 3: had Tupac am Biggie, is that fear the biggiest of state.

3866
03:18:38,440 --> 03:18:43,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, bigg state cleared, Okay, same as the mob

3867
03:18:43,080 --> 03:18:46,360
Speaker 4: deepest state clear. The the Sean price is state clear,

3868
03:18:46,720 --> 03:18:49,240
Speaker 4: their dog estate clear. Like you said before, niggas they

3869
03:18:49,360 --> 03:18:49,920
Speaker 4: clear and ship.

3870
03:18:50,240 --> 03:18:50,760
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

3871
03:18:50,800 --> 03:18:52,960
Speaker 4: But then sometimes you know you got that ship like

3872
03:18:53,120 --> 03:18:53,760
Speaker 4: like because.

3873
03:18:53,480 --> 03:18:55,640
Speaker 2: You motherfucker Eric Sherman, that's what you got.

3874
03:18:59,520 --> 03:18:59,680
Speaker 4: I know.

3875
03:19:00,400 --> 03:19:01,600
Speaker 1: I told you I'm being cocky for you.

3876
03:19:01,959 --> 03:19:04,960
Speaker 4: But but but the two Pockets, it does. You heard

3877
03:19:05,000 --> 03:19:07,200
Speaker 4: stories about it taking long. But again, at the end

3878
03:19:07,240 --> 03:19:09,000
Speaker 4: of the day, I tell you can have it. I

3879
03:19:09,080 --> 03:19:13,959
Speaker 4: just want the nostalgia the record, right, But I'll play

3880
03:19:14,000 --> 03:19:18,320
Speaker 4: it for y'all again. You everybody who hears the record,

3881
03:19:18,360 --> 03:19:20,800
Speaker 4: they always their faces.

3882
03:19:21,040 --> 03:19:23,039
Speaker 2: I love to watch them because they be like, nah.

3883
03:19:23,320 --> 03:19:25,240
Speaker 1: I can't wait. There's no way you can play for

3884
03:19:25,480 --> 03:19:27,840
Speaker 1: when we're done right here, No way you can play

3885
03:19:27,840 --> 03:19:28,440
Speaker 1: it today when we do.

3886
03:19:28,640 --> 03:19:34,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, have you been to Ballet to see Russell the bally.

3887
03:19:35,879 --> 03:19:40,120
Speaker 4: He'd be like, he told you to come down to

3888
03:19:40,440 --> 03:19:42,200
Speaker 4: health right the whole Now you're gonna love it.

3889
03:19:42,400 --> 03:19:45,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, never went Yeah, of course for you too.

3890
03:19:46,160 --> 03:19:46,800
Speaker 4: He said you got a.

3891
03:19:46,760 --> 03:19:49,080
Speaker 1: Snoop dogg Sweet sat Snoop Dog Sweet.

3892
03:19:49,560 --> 03:19:53,720
Speaker 2: Right in the hotel tax Haven over there. Yeah he

3893
03:19:53,920 --> 03:19:57,039
Speaker 2: just he went. Russell went and just did this thing.

3894
03:19:57,280 --> 03:19:57,879
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

3895
03:19:59,080 --> 03:20:06,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, And so this is one time. No, we said

3896
03:20:07,000 --> 03:20:08,480
Speaker 4: this is your last one time, like this is just

3897
03:20:08,600 --> 03:20:09,039
Speaker 4: go now.

3898
03:20:11,600 --> 03:20:13,119
Speaker 1: You take a picture.

3899
03:20:14,280 --> 03:20:17,560
Speaker 3: Signed to Depth jam right, we signed as.

3900
03:20:19,720 --> 03:20:20,720
Speaker 2: Component Orega.

3901
03:20:20,920 --> 03:20:24,680
Speaker 3: Yes, but then they was like, yo, we're not gonna

3902
03:20:24,680 --> 03:20:30,320
Speaker 3: sign a Norri solo and a Compone solo, so you.

3903
03:20:30,400 --> 03:20:31,600
Speaker 2: Gotta make a pick right now.

3904
03:20:32,320 --> 03:20:34,480
Speaker 3: I felt like I already got mynt off Components just

3905
03:20:34,560 --> 03:20:35,959
Speaker 3: coming home from from jail.

3906
03:20:37,000 --> 03:20:40,039
Speaker 2: So I said, you know what, I let Compone.

3907
03:20:41,800 --> 03:20:42,440
Speaker 4: Whining before you.

3908
03:20:43,120 --> 03:20:45,800
Speaker 3: Uh, this is after this is this.

3909
03:20:45,959 --> 03:20:47,560
Speaker 2: Is when we signed to Death jam I.

3910
03:20:48,280 --> 03:20:50,840
Speaker 3: So they had a choice to sign Component Oriega and

3911
03:20:50,959 --> 03:20:54,320
Speaker 3: one solo. So they signed Compona Oreega and I said,

3912
03:20:54,360 --> 03:20:57,040
Speaker 3: you know what, Coone was just coming home from jail,

3913
03:20:57,120 --> 03:21:06,320
Speaker 3: I said, sign Components solo. They did, and then I

3914
03:21:06,440 --> 03:21:08,880
Speaker 3: remember me going in because Copone was working on his

3915
03:21:09,000 --> 03:21:12,680
Speaker 3: solo before he worked on a Copon on Noriega. And

3916
03:21:12,760 --> 03:21:15,440
Speaker 3: I remember me just going in spending my own money.

3917
03:21:15,680 --> 03:21:19,400
Speaker 3: Dev Jam would not pay for me to go in

3918
03:21:20,520 --> 03:21:23,040
Speaker 3: and record my solo. While I'm waiting for Copone to

3919
03:21:23,080 --> 03:21:31,120
Speaker 3: finish his solo, Kevin lows come seize me, and he

3920
03:21:31,240 --> 03:21:35,680
Speaker 3: says to me, man and y'all never told you the story.

3921
03:21:35,720 --> 03:21:38,680
Speaker 3: I should have told you the story years ago. And

3922
03:21:38,720 --> 03:21:44,160
Speaker 3: he goes, you're Eric Sherman right now, and I say, tuned,

3923
03:21:45,360 --> 03:21:46,560
Speaker 3: what do you mean?

3924
03:21:47,440 --> 03:21:50,360
Speaker 1: He said, that's crazy.

3925
03:21:50,600 --> 03:21:53,440
Speaker 3: You feel like Kevin tell you. Kevin llowed to tell

3926
03:21:53,440 --> 03:21:55,640
Speaker 3: you this. You know what you said earlier, no capping.

3927
03:21:55,760 --> 03:22:00,200
Speaker 3: He's like, Yo, you feel like you you hold than

3928
03:22:00,240 --> 03:22:04,240
Speaker 3: the burden of the group. You're holding it down and

3929
03:22:04,360 --> 03:22:06,800
Speaker 3: you feel like you're not being compensated the same way

3930
03:22:08,640 --> 03:22:09,160
Speaker 3: you will be.

3931
03:22:10,240 --> 03:22:12,720
Speaker 2: It's gonna come or of pause.

3932
03:22:13,520 --> 03:22:17,880
Speaker 3: And I remember me saying I didn't know what he

3933
03:22:18,080 --> 03:22:24,320
Speaker 3: meant by that, and years later I did and don't

3934
03:22:24,959 --> 03:22:30,480
Speaker 3: what he meant by that was making a group album

3935
03:22:30,560 --> 03:22:33,760
Speaker 3: for me at that time was harder than making a

3936
03:22:33,879 --> 03:22:34,840
Speaker 3: solo album for me.

3937
03:22:35,000 --> 03:22:37,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, because a.

3938
03:22:37,080 --> 03:22:39,760
Speaker 1: Group album I had to collap.

3939
03:22:40,160 --> 03:22:43,280
Speaker 3: I had to actually, but then after I made that

3940
03:22:43,400 --> 03:22:47,320
Speaker 3: solo album, it was just like, yo, it's so much easier.

3941
03:22:48,440 --> 03:22:51,280
Speaker 3: It's way easier. And I remember him telling me that

3942
03:22:51,680 --> 03:22:55,480
Speaker 3: I remember me knowing you, but remember me not like saying, damn,

3943
03:22:55,560 --> 03:22:59,160
Speaker 3: what does he mean by that? And years later I

3944
03:22:59,280 --> 03:23:02,199
Speaker 3: got to know what he meant by that. And sometimes

3945
03:23:03,000 --> 03:23:07,920
Speaker 3: you hold the verdict of being.

3946
03:23:09,560 --> 03:23:10,240
Speaker 1: That guy.

3947
03:23:12,400 --> 03:23:15,680
Speaker 2: Not feeling like it and then applying it.

3948
03:23:19,000 --> 03:23:24,000
Speaker 3: And to this day, I always say that my relationship

3949
03:23:24,040 --> 03:23:28,360
Speaker 3: with EFN is so much better because of my relationship

3950
03:23:28,400 --> 03:23:28,920
Speaker 3: with Compone.

3951
03:23:30,640 --> 03:23:32,439
Speaker 2: My relationship with Compone.

3952
03:23:37,959 --> 03:23:40,640
Speaker 3: Makes me say I don't ever want to push EFN

3953
03:23:40,760 --> 03:23:43,240
Speaker 3: to anything that he doesn't want to do, because I

3954
03:23:43,320 --> 03:23:46,040
Speaker 3: did that with Compone and it pushed him away for

3955
03:23:46,120 --> 03:23:49,320
Speaker 3: a while, Like I want a compone to be on time.

3956
03:23:51,600 --> 03:23:53,480
Speaker 2: My motherfucker's still ain't on time.

3957
03:23:53,600 --> 03:23:55,800
Speaker 3: Bro here, yo, who.

3958
03:23:57,600 --> 03:24:00,400
Speaker 2: Still ain't on top? But when I pushed him to.

3959
03:24:00,480 --> 03:24:04,760
Speaker 1: Be like me, that was not the move, right, you

3960
03:24:04,840 --> 03:24:05,280
Speaker 1: know what I mean?

3961
03:24:05,360 --> 03:24:08,040
Speaker 3: That's not that was not the move. I should have

3962
03:24:08,120 --> 03:24:10,240
Speaker 3: let him be here how he is. And that's the

3963
03:24:10,280 --> 03:24:12,320
Speaker 3: reason why I feel like me and f En relationship

3964
03:24:12,400 --> 03:24:16,880
Speaker 3: works judgement. He doesn't give a fuck about and we're

3965
03:24:16,879 --> 03:24:19,280
Speaker 3: both on time. We kind of try to beat each

3966
03:24:19,280 --> 03:24:20,920
Speaker 3: other and see who's on time.

3967
03:24:21,920 --> 03:24:26,160
Speaker 4: But so I'm not such time. I'm saying this because

3968
03:24:26,200 --> 03:24:30,160
Speaker 4: nobody always nobody knew that, nobody really knew the dynamics

3969
03:24:30,200 --> 03:24:35,640
Speaker 4: and will you what really happened between y'all two? Yeah,

3970
03:24:36,840 --> 03:24:38,440
Speaker 4: my brother said this. I'm not saying that. I'm just

3971
03:24:38,520 --> 03:24:41,880
Speaker 4: saying the fact that even though you went solo, like

3972
03:24:42,440 --> 03:24:44,800
Speaker 4: the album didn't come. See, he wasn't like my dynamic

3973
03:24:44,920 --> 03:24:47,480
Speaker 4: ship was different. Why did y'all stop.

3974
03:24:47,360 --> 03:24:50,760
Speaker 1: Making always thought my dynamic was compared to yours.

3975
03:24:50,920 --> 03:24:53,440
Speaker 2: I never knew that they.

3976
03:24:53,440 --> 03:24:56,119
Speaker 3: Had a more good had a breakupe.

3977
03:24:56,280 --> 03:24:58,800
Speaker 1: He went to jail, so I would have never been

3978
03:24:58,840 --> 03:25:01,400
Speaker 1: a solo arm if he didn't go to jail.

3979
03:25:01,480 --> 03:25:04,080
Speaker 2: Got you, I got you, I got you like I met.

3980
03:25:04,040 --> 03:25:07,240
Speaker 1: No aready doing the promo tour for CNN. That's how

3981
03:25:07,320 --> 03:25:09,320
Speaker 1: me and him met. He was the only he was

3982
03:25:09,400 --> 03:25:10,560
Speaker 1: doing the run by himself.

3983
03:25:11,040 --> 03:25:14,040
Speaker 3: But in my mind, we didn't have the internet back then,

3984
03:25:14,120 --> 03:25:16,119
Speaker 3: so we didn't know that you were in parish. If

3985
03:25:16,160 --> 03:25:19,240
Speaker 3: that was the case, was I thought I was based

3986
03:25:19,240 --> 03:25:21,800
Speaker 3: in my career of for you okay, like you went

3987
03:25:21,920 --> 03:25:27,400
Speaker 3: solo that based off a Cube damn you know because.

3988
03:25:29,000 --> 03:25:32,760
Speaker 4: Corre, Yeah, these are we're in major groups.

3989
03:25:33,320 --> 03:25:36,720
Speaker 1: But that's crazy comparison to what happened there.

3990
03:25:37,560 --> 03:25:40,640
Speaker 4: But still he still went solo. Yeah, but it was

3991
03:25:41,120 --> 03:25:43,600
Speaker 4: it was crazy. It doesn't matter you still leaving the

3992
03:25:43,800 --> 03:25:44,640
Speaker 4: major group.

3993
03:25:45,680 --> 03:25:48,920
Speaker 1: But you felt the same like energy that that you saw.

3994
03:25:49,120 --> 03:25:51,360
Speaker 1: We all SAWQ go through with no vassaline.

3995
03:25:51,560 --> 03:25:54,240
Speaker 4: No, just the fact that you the part of leaving

3996
03:25:54,280 --> 03:25:57,120
Speaker 4: the major group, being in the major group and then

3997
03:25:57,240 --> 03:25:59,359
Speaker 4: going your own separate ways.

3998
03:25:59,480 --> 03:26:02,480
Speaker 1: And then how to create your own identity, creating that.

3999
03:26:02,640 --> 03:26:05,080
Speaker 4: And then and then seeing if it's gonna if people

4000
03:26:05,080 --> 03:26:07,720
Speaker 4: are gonna accept it as that Cuba tell your old

4001
03:26:07,760 --> 03:26:11,640
Speaker 4: time too with so and so about not knowing you

4002
03:26:12,040 --> 03:26:14,000
Speaker 4: skart of depth, you know whatever, you know, how people

4003
03:26:14,040 --> 03:26:16,320
Speaker 4: are you tell you that you know yo, yo, you

4004
03:26:16,400 --> 03:26:17,080
Speaker 4: better with the group.

4005
03:26:17,280 --> 03:26:19,160
Speaker 1: I mean if you if you look at it. It

4006
03:26:19,320 --> 03:26:21,760
Speaker 1: was crazy for Cube to leave n W at its height.

4007
03:26:21,959 --> 03:26:24,560
Speaker 1: They come from such a hit and that's when he

4008
03:26:24,680 --> 03:26:26,560
Speaker 1: left the hours with the break and people didn't.

4009
03:26:27,000 --> 03:26:29,320
Speaker 4: It still was people still like there's no way epm

4010
03:26:29,360 --> 03:26:31,520
Speaker 4: d Brook and you know how big that that was

4011
03:26:31,680 --> 03:26:34,680
Speaker 4: huge for people, you know, But again things happened, but

4012
03:26:34,720 --> 03:26:35,920
Speaker 4: you don't know it's gonna work for you.

4013
03:26:37,800 --> 03:26:41,840
Speaker 1: Wow, but you but you were the primary producer in

4014
03:26:41,959 --> 03:26:42,360
Speaker 1: e PM.

4015
03:26:42,400 --> 03:26:44,720
Speaker 4: You know, in the beginning it was Paris did the

4016
03:26:44,800 --> 03:26:48,920
Speaker 4: first album. People don't know really because people, you know,

4017
03:26:48,959 --> 03:26:52,760
Speaker 4: they always might think that it's me because he stopped working.

4018
03:26:54,720 --> 03:26:58,880
Speaker 4: But again, don't forget he knew about this stuff before

4019
03:26:58,920 --> 03:26:59,240
Speaker 4: I did.

4020
03:26:59,600 --> 03:27:00,320
Speaker 2: Is the older than you.

4021
03:27:00,480 --> 03:27:03,760
Speaker 4: But yeah, by the year or so. But at the

4022
03:27:03,840 --> 03:27:09,600
Speaker 4: end of the day, you know, I just learned how

4023
03:27:09,680 --> 03:27:12,760
Speaker 4: to do it by the second album.

4024
03:27:13,680 --> 03:27:14,039
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

4025
03:27:14,280 --> 03:27:17,440
Speaker 2: You know, I'm glad you did.

4026
03:27:17,879 --> 03:27:22,080
Speaker 4: You know. So when when someone so when it's what

4027
03:27:22,200 --> 03:27:26,080
Speaker 4: you're saying came, you know, it was it was you know,

4028
03:27:26,200 --> 03:27:29,880
Speaker 4: that was the beginning of where I was starting at.

4029
03:27:30,560 --> 03:27:32,280
Speaker 2: You know, shout out to both of y'all.

4030
03:27:32,320 --> 03:27:32,480
Speaker 3: Man.

4031
03:27:33,120 --> 03:27:38,760
Speaker 2: So, so let me ask you, right, like I love

4032
03:27:38,840 --> 03:27:42,480
Speaker 2: to ask artist this question. What's on your rider?

4033
03:27:44,040 --> 03:27:46,440
Speaker 4: I don't get it. I don't when you when you're the.

4034
03:27:46,440 --> 03:27:48,880
Speaker 3: Show, no trow like if somebody is a book you

4035
03:27:49,080 --> 03:27:50,280
Speaker 3: to the show.

4036
03:27:50,320 --> 03:27:54,440
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, damn. I I didn't even do all that.

4037
03:27:54,720 --> 03:27:57,240
Speaker 4: I wasn't even in it. Like that. Whatever food that

4038
03:27:57,400 --> 03:28:04,080
Speaker 4: came with you had chicken, salmon, rice vegetables. But people

4039
03:28:04,200 --> 03:28:10,440
Speaker 4: had rolling paper, fucking alcohol whatever. I don't and I

4040
03:28:10,480 --> 03:28:15,360
Speaker 4: didn't care. I never cared. Yeah, I ain't, that's it.

4041
03:28:15,760 --> 03:28:19,640
Speaker 4: I never looked at no, right, I never did that.

4042
03:28:19,840 --> 03:28:23,400
Speaker 3: I know you ain't asked for missus Chiles as ship,

4043
03:28:23,640 --> 03:28:26,600
Speaker 3: little Roy Rogers nothing and ms.

4044
03:28:28,600 --> 03:28:34,039
Speaker 4: The Blue Ones. That's my I'm not making fun of people.

4045
03:28:34,280 --> 03:28:35,960
Speaker 4: They just take all the others. Just ket the Blue

4046
03:28:36,000 --> 03:28:36,520
Speaker 4: Ones in there.

4047
03:28:37,000 --> 03:28:38,200
Speaker 2: I that was ever real.

4048
03:28:38,640 --> 03:28:43,160
Speaker 4: It's real, yeah, people, that's deepest ship people. See if

4049
03:28:43,200 --> 03:28:45,400
Speaker 4: people would do it though, yeah, they would do it.

4050
03:28:45,560 --> 03:28:47,160
Speaker 4: But I'm saying, do you think they said it just

4051
03:28:47,240 --> 03:28:48,880
Speaker 4: to see if it would get done? No, that's what

4052
03:28:48,959 --> 03:28:49,360
Speaker 4: they want.

4053
03:28:50,240 --> 03:28:53,879
Speaker 2: That's wild. Who didn't live opus.

4054
03:28:57,120 --> 03:28:57,560
Speaker 1: Madonna?

4055
03:28:57,879 --> 03:29:00,560
Speaker 4: I want the water that's from from BALI get it

4056
03:29:00,600 --> 03:29:01,280
Speaker 4: shipped over here.

4057
03:29:01,760 --> 03:29:03,000
Speaker 2: How would she know it's from Bali?

4058
03:29:03,080 --> 03:29:03,160
Speaker 1: Bro?

4059
03:29:03,240 --> 03:29:05,640
Speaker 3: I would I would have gotten water put Polly on that.

4060
03:29:06,240 --> 03:29:08,680
Speaker 2: No, she knew because they got it in that dressing room.

4061
03:29:09,440 --> 03:29:12,640
Speaker 3: Have you ever met somebody that that you were disappointed

4062
03:29:13,200 --> 03:29:15,760
Speaker 3: after meeting him and he was like, fuck, Scott was

4063
03:29:15,760 --> 03:29:16,279
Speaker 3: an asshole?

4064
03:29:17,840 --> 03:29:18,040
Speaker 1: Wow?

4065
03:29:18,080 --> 03:29:18,720
Speaker 6: Who was that?

4066
03:29:20,480 --> 03:29:20,920
Speaker 3: Mister Lee?

4067
03:29:21,840 --> 03:29:23,600
Speaker 4: I don't know, not off the off the bat, but

4068
03:29:23,680 --> 03:29:26,879
Speaker 4: it happened though I can't. I can't remember, but yeah,

4069
03:29:26,879 --> 03:29:30,920
Speaker 4: I just wanted somebody, holy ship. I wish I could

4070
03:29:30,959 --> 03:29:31,640
Speaker 4: even name, right, I.

4071
03:29:31,680 --> 03:29:36,000
Speaker 3: Wish you could name the name too, think about it, Gota,

4072
03:29:39,080 --> 03:29:44,360
Speaker 3: no tell me, Denzel Washington.

4073
03:29:44,480 --> 03:29:46,040
Speaker 4: Somebody gave me the side, you know when you could

4074
03:29:46,040 --> 03:29:48,879
Speaker 4: decide like that, Yeah, one of those.

4075
03:29:50,640 --> 03:29:52,760
Speaker 2: Who's that? Somebody? I don't remember.

4076
03:29:54,280 --> 03:29:58,359
Speaker 3: We don't got to talk about it, right, Well.

4077
03:29:59,200 --> 03:30:01,680
Speaker 2: We did it. We did it, Eric, sir.

4078
03:30:02,120 --> 03:30:07,080
Speaker 4: So that's your whole your phone, it's my phone, it's

4079
03:30:07,120 --> 03:30:09,840
Speaker 4: my phone. No, there's fucking questions, man, that's the phones,

4080
03:30:09,920 --> 03:30:14,520
Speaker 4: the phones and ship. You answered, you can ask about

4081
03:30:14,560 --> 03:30:17,080
Speaker 4: the fucking doory me. And then here's which is you

4082
03:30:17,120 --> 03:30:18,400
Speaker 4: went off the whole script with.

4083
03:30:18,440 --> 03:30:19,039
Speaker 2: Some other ship.

4084
03:30:21,120 --> 03:30:23,560
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm a special education student. I went to

4085
03:30:23,600 --> 03:30:26,360
Speaker 3: the resource room in case you didn't know. Listen, man,

4086
03:30:26,400 --> 03:30:28,400
Speaker 3: you got notes. Man, it works out, it works out,

4087
03:30:28,440 --> 03:30:31,800
Speaker 3: it works out. Okay, you asked every one of my questions,

4088
03:30:32,200 --> 03:30:34,440
Speaker 3: all step ups, bomb Diggy.

4089
03:30:35,760 --> 03:30:36,959
Speaker 4: What's up with the records though?

4090
03:30:37,040 --> 03:30:39,039
Speaker 6: What you just.

4091
03:30:42,440 --> 03:30:44,840
Speaker 4: Pick out my records? The bomb Diggy. We never talked

4092
03:30:44,840 --> 03:30:47,600
Speaker 4: about bomb Diggy. Wasn't it wasn't it wasn't. All the

4093
03:30:47,640 --> 03:30:49,520
Speaker 4: ways done by me that's when I had tie Fife

4094
03:30:49,560 --> 03:30:54,680
Speaker 4: with me. We'll do so right, So Queen's niggas so hey,

4095
03:30:54,959 --> 03:30:58,680
Speaker 4: the chopping queen, the boom the boom to see that

4096
03:30:58,840 --> 03:31:02,039
Speaker 4: wasn't I ain't had that technique yet, but time Fife did,

4097
03:31:03,120 --> 03:31:04,119
Speaker 4: it sounded.

4098
03:31:03,840 --> 03:31:05,560
Speaker 2: Like me because the defunk part of it.

4099
03:31:06,280 --> 03:31:07,400
Speaker 1: So I added some.

4100
03:31:07,440 --> 03:31:11,240
Speaker 4: Stuff in there too, But that's mostly tie Fife at

4101
03:31:11,280 --> 03:31:13,640
Speaker 4: the time. It's ninety five tip fight. Matter of fact,

4102
03:31:13,680 --> 03:31:17,000
Speaker 4: on that second album, was doing like maybe three or

4103
03:31:17,000 --> 03:31:19,160
Speaker 4: four records on that because he was my new producer.

4104
03:31:19,560 --> 03:31:20,120
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

4105
03:31:20,200 --> 03:31:25,240
Speaker 4: He was He had a dope style, you know. So,

4106
03:31:25,640 --> 03:31:29,720
Speaker 4: But that's about about that story about on that on

4107
03:31:29,879 --> 03:31:32,640
Speaker 4: that record. But I think that I think that again,

4108
03:31:32,760 --> 03:31:37,120
Speaker 4: that was a record that too, that LA took off with.

4109
03:31:37,600 --> 03:31:40,120
Speaker 4: You know, New York didn't really fuck with it too

4110
03:31:40,240 --> 03:31:43,480
Speaker 4: tough then you people loved the second album, that second

4111
03:31:43,480 --> 03:31:45,680
Speaker 4: albu of Day, but that single didn't go It didn't

4112
03:31:45,720 --> 03:31:48,240
Speaker 4: do nothing except for California.

4113
03:31:48,720 --> 03:31:49,000
Speaker 1: Didn't you.

4114
03:31:50,040 --> 03:31:52,520
Speaker 3: That's with Derek Angeletti for a while. Wasn't he under

4115
03:31:52,560 --> 03:31:56,600
Speaker 3: your prot No? No, no, yeah.

4116
03:31:58,800 --> 03:32:01,520
Speaker 4: Only the only ones I can't was fighting rock Waller

4117
03:32:01,560 --> 03:32:06,040
Speaker 4: and I can't rock wall with we Gotta get and

4118
03:32:06,160 --> 03:32:09,200
Speaker 4: died don't want to come through. Yes, rock Wall is

4119
03:32:09,200 --> 03:32:12,320
Speaker 4: one person though to that people again doesn't know, like

4120
03:32:12,400 --> 03:32:15,400
Speaker 4: again you know already did the Big Pun, the jay Z,

4121
03:32:15,760 --> 03:32:20,320
Speaker 4: the Di the Christian Aguilera's his child, the fucking you know,

4122
03:32:20,440 --> 03:32:21,240
Speaker 4: he got his own.

4123
03:32:21,120 --> 03:32:22,240
Speaker 2: Record called the rock Waller.

4124
03:32:22,320 --> 03:32:25,720
Speaker 4: Whether than people look at them, Jennet Jackson, this nigga

4125
03:32:25,800 --> 03:32:29,800
Speaker 4: is fucking one of those, you know, and people don't

4126
03:32:29,840 --> 03:32:31,920
Speaker 4: look at it and look at him at all, you know,

4127
03:32:32,040 --> 03:32:34,680
Speaker 4: as far as to really as one of those people

4128
03:32:34,920 --> 03:32:37,400
Speaker 4: you know, dangerous because I ain't know he did the

4129
03:32:37,400 --> 03:32:41,520
Speaker 4: Big Pun record Blue. I had no idea he did

4130
03:32:41,560 --> 03:32:51,800
Speaker 4: that song, which one the dude one of the uh man,

4131
03:32:53,640 --> 03:32:56,720
Speaker 4: that's rock Wall though, mister Lee, you're not helping at all, bro,

4132
03:32:57,200 --> 03:32:58,160
Speaker 4: you're on that record.

4133
03:32:58,400 --> 03:32:59,320
Speaker 1: He came up, what.

4134
03:33:03,240 --> 03:33:06,240
Speaker 4: Rock Wall did that? Yes, you don't even know this?

4135
03:33:06,560 --> 03:33:11,199
Speaker 1: No, no, I was also high mister head of the Sounds.

4136
03:33:11,240 --> 03:33:12,280
Speaker 1: Can you google that please?

4137
03:33:12,959 --> 03:33:13,360
Speaker 2: You got it?

4138
03:33:14,320 --> 03:33:21,640
Speaker 4: Come on, man, this is my camp nigga. Holy shit,

4139
03:33:22,840 --> 03:33:25,360
Speaker 4: this is crazy. Two records, no reason to know nothing

4140
03:33:25,400 --> 03:33:30,280
Speaker 4: about it. He waved and this he's on both cool

4141
03:33:30,320 --> 03:33:34,640
Speaker 4: about none of them. I credit that having a dope life.

4142
03:33:37,480 --> 03:33:39,400
Speaker 4: But yo, every sermon, I'm gonna be honest with you.

4143
03:33:39,560 --> 03:33:39,720
Speaker 1: Man.

4144
03:33:41,000 --> 03:33:43,680
Speaker 3: Last time I saw you, we were on the private

4145
03:33:44,080 --> 03:33:47,440
Speaker 3: right Jack, and then the next day I went to

4146
03:33:48,240 --> 03:33:53,640
Speaker 3: Nice and I went to Paris. I'm seeing you today

4147
03:33:54,480 --> 03:33:56,840
Speaker 3: and tomorrow I am going to Paris.

4148
03:33:57,080 --> 03:33:58,760
Speaker 1: Stop lying your good luck.

4149
03:34:00,480 --> 03:34:03,680
Speaker 4: Like you travel a lot, nigga. You don't want me

4150
03:34:03,680 --> 03:34:05,480
Speaker 4: to drive, but I'm saying the fact that you was

4151
03:34:05,520 --> 03:34:08,360
Speaker 4: like you really really be out there enjoying life for real,

4152
03:34:08,640 --> 03:34:10,280
Speaker 4: because tomorrow is not promised. I like to.

4153
03:34:15,120 --> 03:34:15,400
Speaker 3: See you.

4154
03:34:16,879 --> 03:34:17,199
Speaker 2: Niggas.

4155
03:34:17,200 --> 03:34:22,080
Speaker 4: You got money and it's not and and and the

4156
03:34:22,800 --> 03:34:25,959
Speaker 4: side poss niggas live out here and day County over

4157
03:34:26,000 --> 03:34:30,840
Speaker 4: there in Coral keep around. He's gonna be able to joy.

4158
03:34:31,400 --> 03:34:33,760
Speaker 4: I mean, how about you, real quick list, you got

4159
03:34:33,840 --> 03:34:37,080
Speaker 4: to be you got to be capful. I'm not gonna be.

4160
03:34:37,160 --> 03:34:41,880
Speaker 4: I can't be the protect them like that. You know

4161
03:34:42,400 --> 03:34:46,560
Speaker 4: you didn't drink bro Listen, My first Wednesday is not

4162
03:34:46,680 --> 03:34:50,080
Speaker 4: a coincidence because again, you know, this is my second

4163
03:34:50,160 --> 03:34:53,000
Speaker 4: day living in Miami, but you're living in Miami now.

4164
03:34:53,320 --> 03:35:00,960
Speaker 4: I just moved yesterday and I can see the water

4165
03:35:01,040 --> 03:35:05,400
Speaker 4: and ship. I'm just another I'm just Japan because I'm

4166
03:35:05,440 --> 03:35:08,160
Speaker 4: forced and listening, but listen, and my g wagons being

4167
03:35:08,400 --> 03:35:09,880
Speaker 4: being sent right now. Listen, but listen to some of

4168
03:35:11,240 --> 03:35:13,600
Speaker 4: this place. I'm trying to find out if this is

4169
03:35:13,680 --> 03:35:17,040
Speaker 4: me or not right because you because my man. Once

4170
03:35:17,120 --> 03:35:20,960
Speaker 4: this nigga left California, I'm like, damn, so La might

4171
03:35:21,040 --> 03:35:23,800
Speaker 4: not be the place, will.

4172
03:35:23,640 --> 03:35:24,120
Speaker 3: You stop it?

4173
03:35:25,720 --> 03:35:28,160
Speaker 4: And so in New York was making me comfortable, like

4174
03:35:28,200 --> 03:35:29,800
Speaker 4: you know how you get a comfortability and when you

4175
03:35:29,840 --> 03:35:31,880
Speaker 4: get too comfortable, you know, you got to be careful

4176
03:35:31,920 --> 03:35:34,840
Speaker 4: with that because you can fall into a comfort zone.

4177
03:35:35,160 --> 03:35:38,640
Speaker 4: So I was doing that, and you know, I've always

4178
03:35:38,640 --> 03:35:40,640
Speaker 4: been in Atlanta, you know what I'm saying, But I

4179
03:35:40,760 --> 03:35:44,400
Speaker 4: knew that that wasn't where I wanted to go now too.

4180
03:35:44,760 --> 03:35:45,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, freaking nigga is over.

4181
03:35:46,120 --> 03:35:46,879
Speaker 3: You gotta go leave.

4182
03:35:48,520 --> 03:35:59,080
Speaker 4: So so my colleagues are here, nor Fat Joe's Hallong

4183
03:36:00,400 --> 03:36:04,160
Speaker 4: d like the age group with Ross, make these all

4184
03:36:04,240 --> 03:36:05,680
Speaker 4: these people that I know.

4185
03:36:07,320 --> 03:36:08,920
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, don't forget.

4186
03:36:08,920 --> 03:36:09,360
Speaker 3: D J E.

4187
03:36:09,560 --> 03:36:09,720
Speaker 1: F N.

4188
03:36:11,440 --> 03:36:15,720
Speaker 4: Young Bird, but he was with me right right.

4189
03:36:16,680 --> 03:36:21,120
Speaker 1: We got to unreleased ahead, right, so you gotta understand, great,

4190
03:36:21,160 --> 03:36:24,800
Speaker 1: young We're going to release that mother.

4191
03:36:26,320 --> 03:36:28,200
Speaker 4: With Ross left on my basement floor.

4192
03:36:29,040 --> 03:36:30,360
Speaker 2: Wow, like this is.

4193
03:36:31,920 --> 03:36:35,000
Speaker 4: This niggas ain't maybe all I know the fact that

4194
03:36:35,160 --> 03:36:40,119
Speaker 4: this is what I I want to see for myself,

4195
03:36:40,800 --> 03:36:42,960
Speaker 4: if this is where I, you know, supposed to be at.

4196
03:36:43,240 --> 03:36:47,840
Speaker 4: Because again, the motivation is what people need to keep,

4197
03:36:47,920 --> 03:36:50,360
Speaker 4: you know, just to keep it, keep it fresh.

4198
03:36:50,800 --> 03:36:53,560
Speaker 2: You know, I can make music anyway anywhere.

4199
03:36:53,640 --> 03:36:57,480
Speaker 4: But the motivation of people doing what I love to

4200
03:36:57,600 --> 03:37:01,200
Speaker 4: do makes you do what you love to do and

4201
03:37:01,400 --> 03:37:04,279
Speaker 4: at a higher level. So when you out here, dolo

4202
03:37:04,680 --> 03:37:07,520
Speaker 4: and you over there by yourself with it and nobody's

4203
03:37:07,560 --> 03:37:09,560
Speaker 4: doing that now it's just you. You're still making it.

4204
03:37:09,640 --> 03:37:10,080
Speaker 3: But it ain't.

4205
03:37:10,280 --> 03:37:12,600
Speaker 4: It ain't the same type of motivation. That's what Atlanta

4206
03:37:12,640 --> 03:37:15,320
Speaker 4: had gave me. That's what La had gave me. New

4207
03:37:15,400 --> 03:37:16,560
Speaker 4: York had gave me for a while.

4208
03:37:16,720 --> 03:37:18,720
Speaker 2: Now, I mean, let me give it to you. Yeah,

4209
03:37:18,800 --> 03:37:20,920
Speaker 2: but don't I'm the fuck out of here. Don't really matter.

4210
03:37:21,440 --> 03:37:25,120
Speaker 3: Get yourself a public sandwich, a public's public's not a

4211
03:37:25,160 --> 03:37:26,199
Speaker 3: public one, but a public.

4212
03:37:27,040 --> 03:37:30,920
Speaker 4: And then to the part of the part of the

4213
03:37:32,959 --> 03:37:36,520
Speaker 4: of the the the weather part, the part of this

4214
03:37:36,640 --> 03:37:38,480
Speaker 4: being like you know, you wake up at seven every

4215
03:37:38,560 --> 03:37:41,320
Speaker 4: day right now, be hurricanes. This nigga is this nigga

4216
03:37:41,400 --> 03:37:45,160
Speaker 4: right here much jogging five or ten miles. I don't

4217
03:37:45,240 --> 03:37:47,360
Speaker 4: know if you lyne that they picking the camera up like,

4218
03:37:47,480 --> 03:37:49,520
Speaker 4: He's like, no, you're picking the camera. You're like, okay,

4219
03:37:50,200 --> 03:37:53,320
Speaker 4: and now I'm at seven now, nigga the camera. I

4220
03:37:53,440 --> 03:37:54,160
Speaker 4: watched the edit.

4221
03:37:54,680 --> 03:37:56,680
Speaker 2: I watched the editor here on different sneakers.

4222
03:38:01,320 --> 03:38:03,560
Speaker 4: He had on some new bads and they switched to this.

4223
03:38:06,240 --> 03:38:06,640
Speaker 2: Only way.

4224
03:38:06,959 --> 03:38:17,040
Speaker 6: You're putting one run day a week's worth of running.

4225
03:38:17,360 --> 03:38:20,520
Speaker 4: You can skip, man, like you skip to number ten.

4226
03:38:21,200 --> 03:38:25,760
Speaker 4: But they're doing the movie. Okay, cut the movie. Oh

4227
03:38:25,879 --> 03:38:27,680
Speaker 4: ship that the ice melted?

4228
03:38:29,360 --> 03:38:31,800
Speaker 1: Well, well, listen, wet, this is your home now now

4229
03:38:32,000 --> 03:38:34,680
Speaker 1: we know you live here. Yes, please come sober drunk

4230
03:38:34,800 --> 03:38:37,199
Speaker 1: every time we love it. Man, you are the soberest

4231
03:38:37,280 --> 03:38:40,720
Speaker 1: drunk person. I feel I feel like we've been you

4232
03:38:40,959 --> 03:38:42,200
Speaker 1: drinking everything we drinking.

4233
03:38:42,600 --> 03:38:44,880
Speaker 4: I feel like every time, this right here is the

4234
03:38:44,959 --> 03:38:47,240
Speaker 4: dope ship. Though now people get this and this is

4235
03:38:47,280 --> 03:38:47,760
Speaker 4: dope and ship.

4236
03:38:48,160 --> 03:38:50,040
Speaker 2: But but but but can I can I give you

4237
03:38:50,120 --> 03:38:51,280
Speaker 2: a prosper two minutes? Please?

4238
03:38:52,240 --> 03:38:56,200
Speaker 3: You a legend. You're an icon in many ways. If

4239
03:38:56,280 --> 03:38:59,080
Speaker 3: you weren't here, I wouldn't be here the FM. I

4240
03:38:59,120 --> 03:39:04,760
Speaker 3: don't know if you even notice, he didn't go on eBay,

4241
03:39:06,320 --> 03:39:09,320
Speaker 3: that's the original. Like, but he has tennis balls from

4242
03:39:09,360 --> 03:39:12,560
Speaker 3: carras one, he got he got your he got your

4243
03:39:12,840 --> 03:39:13,800
Speaker 3: your tapes on.

4244
03:39:13,920 --> 03:39:17,560
Speaker 4: A tape, but the shirt I don't know how many

4245
03:39:17,680 --> 03:39:22,320
Speaker 4: times you wore were interviews with other people. I'm like, damn,

4246
03:39:22,360 --> 03:39:25,680
Speaker 4: it feels like that, like I saw him before, but

4247
03:39:25,800 --> 03:39:29,880
Speaker 4: he never act like like how I see you with

4248
03:39:30,040 --> 03:39:31,880
Speaker 4: the path and there and the stuff that you doing

4249
03:39:31,920 --> 03:39:34,480
Speaker 4: as far as like, damn, represent I like.

4250
03:39:34,520 --> 03:39:38,360
Speaker 3: That called the power for that. That's illegal ship. Let's go.

4251
03:39:40,240 --> 03:39:51,800
Speaker 4: Because I didn't make that ship. I can get you

4252
03:39:51,879 --> 03:39:52,680
Speaker 4: off that right now.

4253
03:39:54,400 --> 03:39:55,080
Speaker 2: He couldn't get.

4254
03:39:56,760 --> 03:39:59,520
Speaker 4: Like, that's my life. So at the end of the day,

4255
03:39:59,600 --> 03:40:03,160
Speaker 4: But again I realized that now too, at the end

4256
03:40:03,160 --> 03:40:04,640
Speaker 4: of the day, I'd be like, damn, these niggas be

4257
03:40:04,720 --> 03:40:06,560
Speaker 4: repping and then for y'all to do that, like y'all

4258
03:40:06,680 --> 03:40:09,640
Speaker 4: rep for real, like your niggas rep for real, like

4259
03:40:09,760 --> 03:40:13,000
Speaker 4: for real for real EPMD repings. So that right there,

4260
03:40:13,040 --> 03:40:14,720
Speaker 4: I appreciated that too. But again at the end of

4261
03:40:14,760 --> 03:40:18,920
Speaker 4: the day, we was kids not knowing. I was just

4262
03:40:19,040 --> 03:40:21,360
Speaker 4: making what we thought it was dope, period, And that's

4263
03:40:21,400 --> 03:40:22,760
Speaker 4: what we did. We made what we thought it was

4264
03:40:22,800 --> 03:40:27,280
Speaker 4: Dope and the world Man and and and again, don't forget.

4265
03:40:27,320 --> 03:40:30,600
Speaker 4: We had the I couldn't come whack? Can you imagine

4266
03:40:30,600 --> 03:40:34,000
Speaker 4: you at home? And then Crammed the Crammed understand came

4267
03:40:34,080 --> 03:40:39,879
Speaker 4: on first. Yes, that was Red Alert playing that right.

4268
03:40:40,560 --> 03:40:41,520
Speaker 1: So the next.

4269
03:40:43,840 --> 03:40:46,000
Speaker 4: You know, Craig mac came to my house because Craig

4270
03:40:46,040 --> 03:40:47,320
Speaker 4: makes come to my house all the time at my

4271
03:40:47,320 --> 03:40:51,560
Speaker 4: grandma's house. Yes, we used to Me and Craig Matt

4272
03:40:51,640 --> 03:40:53,160
Speaker 4: used to listen to the radio and see what's coming

4273
03:40:53,200 --> 03:40:56,960
Speaker 4: on next. So we heard publicking number one together and

4274
03:40:57,080 --> 03:41:03,360
Speaker 4: we heard nobody beats the Biz. So now right, and

4275
03:41:03,480 --> 03:41:08,360
Speaker 4: then then the next week I came in the door.

4276
03:41:08,840 --> 03:41:10,040
Speaker 1: That was for me.

4277
03:41:10,520 --> 03:41:14,080
Speaker 2: So so now don't forget. Then you have question.

4278
03:41:14,120 --> 03:41:16,560
Speaker 4: You had KOs one with the bridge and and and

4279
03:41:17,000 --> 03:41:20,560
Speaker 4: all that, so we have I got all these people

4280
03:41:20,640 --> 03:41:23,320
Speaker 4: to watch. Don't forget me and Paris is the last

4281
03:41:23,400 --> 03:41:28,760
Speaker 4: one out from the era. Don't forget you got Robin

4282
03:41:28,800 --> 03:41:29,800
Speaker 4: with canes out, you.

4283
03:41:29,800 --> 03:41:32,080
Speaker 3: Know, so we know school the last one.

4284
03:41:32,120 --> 03:41:37,200
Speaker 4: Now that's the next era. Some of as far as

4285
03:41:38,200 --> 03:41:41,880
Speaker 4: me and Paris listening, you hear what we heard. We

4286
03:41:42,040 --> 03:41:45,480
Speaker 4: heard kaos one, we heard light, we heard biz, We

4287
03:41:45,600 --> 03:41:47,800
Speaker 4: heard rock Him and we heard Public Enemy.

4288
03:41:48,240 --> 03:41:50,640
Speaker 2: So imagine you sitting there, so how do we have

4289
03:41:50,840 --> 03:41:52,480
Speaker 2: to have to come when you hear that?

4290
03:41:52,800 --> 03:41:55,320
Speaker 1: And it's crazy because you guys sounded nothing like anybody

4291
03:41:55,440 --> 03:41:57,000
Speaker 1: you was inspired by.

4292
03:41:57,480 --> 03:41:58,240
Speaker 4: Well rock him.

4293
03:41:59,120 --> 03:42:00,640
Speaker 2: You felt like you sounded like rock Him.

4294
03:42:01,280 --> 03:42:06,440
Speaker 4: Because I interview Paris said it into what you're saying.

4295
03:42:06,760 --> 03:42:08,960
Speaker 4: Niggas said, we signed the music was black. We have

4296
03:42:09,000 --> 03:42:12,880
Speaker 4: to the album strictly business. Help him, you don't sign it.

4297
03:42:12,959 --> 03:42:15,440
Speaker 4: But this is what they were saying. Okay, then don't

4298
03:42:15,480 --> 03:42:17,959
Speaker 4: forget though, when that e pm D ship was going

4299
03:42:18,000 --> 03:42:20,240
Speaker 4: on in rock Him from the next town. Whatever that shit,

4300
03:42:20,280 --> 03:42:22,520
Speaker 4: I ain't no joke. Whatever. You can get a smack

4301
03:42:22,600 --> 03:42:25,320
Speaker 4: for this. Then EPMD came out like a Digham smack.

4302
03:42:25,360 --> 03:42:27,400
Speaker 4: You smacked me and I smack you back. So niggas

4303
03:42:27,600 --> 03:42:30,480
Speaker 4: thought that that was the disc again that if you

4304
03:42:30,560 --> 03:42:33,440
Speaker 4: don't know that, the hood took that. So now rock

4305
03:42:33,520 --> 03:42:36,800
Speaker 4: Him is pissed. I'm like, damn no way. It was

4306
03:42:36,959 --> 03:42:39,320
Speaker 4: no way you want beef with him. We can't beat him.

4307
03:42:39,480 --> 03:42:42,440
Speaker 4: It came so so Denny says a brother said, diggum,

4308
03:42:42,480 --> 03:42:44,280
Speaker 4: I never dug and he couldn't have. Finally enough, so

4309
03:42:44,400 --> 03:42:46,680
Speaker 4: I drug him and the dangers on the curve. I'm like, oh,

4310
03:42:46,760 --> 03:42:52,720
Speaker 4: we in trouble, were in trouble. All of a sudden

4311
03:42:52,720 --> 03:42:55,240
Speaker 4: we saw about the place called the building, and Paris

4312
03:42:55,240 --> 03:42:58,640
Speaker 4: saw him in Paris squats the beef. What did parents do?

4313
03:42:59,080 --> 03:43:01,120
Speaker 4: What are you saying about these at the bar? And

4314
03:43:01,240 --> 03:43:03,600
Speaker 4: like you talked to him and the ship was squashed.

4315
03:43:03,640 --> 03:43:07,800
Speaker 4: But again the Hood made that beef just because of

4316
03:43:07,879 --> 03:43:10,200
Speaker 4: what you thought you might have heard. So I'm forgeting

4317
03:43:10,560 --> 03:43:12,440
Speaker 4: if your man gashed up said you heard him say

4318
03:43:12,480 --> 03:43:15,000
Speaker 4: that ship smack me or smack you back? So it

4319
03:43:15,080 --> 03:43:18,600
Speaker 4: went crazy. So now you're going we only two towns

4320
03:43:18,680 --> 03:43:26,920
Speaker 4: over Brentwood then wine dance right here. Wow, that's my

4321
03:43:27,120 --> 03:43:29,959
Speaker 4: mentor who I'm watching who I wouldn't even be going

4322
03:43:30,040 --> 03:43:32,680
Speaker 4: that far if I never heard him. My melody and

4323
03:43:32,800 --> 03:43:36,440
Speaker 4: fucking every president was the ship. That's what I based

4324
03:43:36,480 --> 03:43:39,520
Speaker 4: my shoe off of him. You don't know that, but

4325
03:43:39,560 --> 03:43:42,160
Speaker 4: I'm telling you that's incredible.

4326
03:43:42,400 --> 03:43:45,760
Speaker 1: And he thinks you dissed them. You don't think that's

4327
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Speaker 1: the Hood did it? So they so you ain't had

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Speaker 1: no d M back then we'd be like it was.

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Speaker 2: No, it was the bar when parasaw him it was

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Speaker 2: too late for that.

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Speaker 4: It's too late because once that came whatever and then

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Speaker 4: we said sounding like the all we said, the virus

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Speaker 4: said the all like nigga, you.

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Speaker 1: Can said this the awe and the music was wet, worse,

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Speaker 1: and he said, did not follow.

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Speaker 4: Leather came out, but it's the dig that I never

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Speaker 4: dug it. You couldn't follow that. I'm like, oh my god,

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Speaker 4: we in trouble, and he twitched it up.

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Speaker 2: I was so young.

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Speaker 1: I didn't even all of that went over my head.

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Speaker 4: Ya No, I said it. That's what all this ship?

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Speaker 3: You heard? No say that.

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Speaker 4: But the rock record came from me with the autobiography,

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Speaker 4: that all that ship he said. He said the same

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Speaker 4: thing I told him. He said it in the rhyme Wow, Jesus.

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Speaker 4: That day when I went with the street, we talked

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Speaker 4: about that story.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 4: And the next thing, you know, he wrote it in

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Speaker 4: the rhyme.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's That's how motherfucking good artist is. You

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Speaker 3: sit around, we talked, and then we're writing about that

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Speaker 3: ship that you just talked about.

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Speaker 4: Right, drink, we did it.

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Speaker 1: Let's do it.

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