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Speaker 2: Now please blow the wishle Please let's me go. Uh.

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Speaker 2: The game last night was very interesting, and I'll talk

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Speaker 2: about my betting situation in a second. Not that you

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Speaker 2: just care about my bets, but it's just I was cooked.

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Speaker 2: My goose was cooked immediately, and then I had to

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Speaker 2: walk slowly wade out of the cooked water. Oh my god,

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Speaker 2: it was just nuts. So that being said, Joe Burrow

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Speaker 2: and the Bengals, I guess are done. Yeah, because we

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Speaker 2: were recording this Friday morning before we do the radio show,

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Speaker 2: so it's butt crack early. I don't know. I haven't

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Speaker 2: seen anything at risk. His finger was last week. I

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Speaker 2: think his risk was last night. He couldn't hold onto

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Speaker 2: the ball I saw him play. I changed the channel

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Speaker 2: because my wife and I were watching a couple shows

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Speaker 2: last night too, and I kind of I can't. I'm

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Speaker 2: on the road tonight, and then I want to watch

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Speaker 2: college football Saturday, watch NFL Sunday. So if she wants

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Speaker 2: to watch something on Thursday, I don't fight that. You

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Speaker 2: gotta do what you gotta do. I don't. I don't.

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Speaker 2: I used to, or I used to put up not

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Speaker 2: a fight, but I'd be like, I need to watch

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Speaker 2: it from my job. But then I realize, I'm slowly

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Speaker 2: realizing that I'm not gonna use the word compromise. But

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Speaker 2: marriage is about knowing that you will win some battles.

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Speaker 2: You will lose some battles, but it's better for the

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Speaker 2: ones that you win, just fully win on having any guilt. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't. I could I have said i'm watching the game, yep.

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Speaker 3: And you probably would have won that one, and I would.

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Speaker 2: Have won it and she wouldn't have held it against me.

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Speaker 2: But I wouldn't have felt good about it, and then

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Speaker 2: I felt like I would have ordered something else on

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Speaker 2: like Saturday, which I wouldn't have. But so it's just

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Speaker 2: not worth it. Smart dude, good job, I'm kind of

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Speaker 2: getting there. You're early in marriage. I've been single for

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Speaker 2: way too long, right, I mean I was single for

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Speaker 2: forty years. Man, that I was two years old in

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Speaker 2: the dating scene. I never thought this was going to happen,

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Speaker 2: that you were that that street was a baby as

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Speaker 2: a baby, Like I was a two year old just

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Speaker 2: picking up chicks. It was like, I'll always be single

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Speaker 2: for everyone. Yeah. Uh So a couple things about the game.

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Speaker 2: Number One, I guess Cincinnati's done. I can't imagine because

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Speaker 2: they fell behind so quick this year, h that they

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Speaker 2: that division. Yeah. Secondly, man, the Ravens are good. They're

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Speaker 2: real good except for they are so when they're hot,

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Speaker 2: Fully loaded, they give San Francisco a real, real great

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Speaker 2: matchup because offensively well Mark Andrews out for the year. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that sucks. That's brutal. And I only saw Hiss out

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Speaker 2: H That sucks for them, But I still feel extremely confident.

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Speaker 2: But even Odell Beckham left the game last night, he

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Speaker 2: his shoulder. Yes, so, as I say, they're so hot

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Speaker 2: He kept falling on his ankle.

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Speaker 3: He was tripping on turf.

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Speaker 2: But at the same time he would go around the corner,

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Speaker 2: design runs with them. What I did like about it though,

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Speaker 2: I thought he tripped again, he did some, yes, but

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Speaker 4: Well, what's crazy is Logan Wilson, the linebacker for the Bengals,

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Speaker 2: That's wild, so that I want to mention that before

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Speaker 2: my mind the Mark Andrews things sucks. Baltimore has the

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Speaker 2: the first round. Like they're the highest ceiling, lowest floor

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Speaker 2: And either way we're like, oh yeah, not super surprised.

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Speaker 3: And now Hardball probably wants to win it for his brother.

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't know that that's the thing, Eddie

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Speaker 2: he's wearing. They're wearing a decal in the helmets Michigan. Yeah, Michigan.

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Speaker 2: Dat guy on the sidelines of the Glasses. He's hired

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Speaker 2: the post game, he's cursing like the other coach. So

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Speaker 2: how he communicates, how he arrives at games, kind of

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Speaker 2: that Cincinnati program program. It's out of college that organization

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Speaker 2: from just a joke to somebody that was competitive enough

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Speaker 2: more in their team. Yeah, which is what we've seen.

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Speaker 2: It really sucks.

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Speaker 3: It does suck. It doesn't They need to stop calling

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Speaker 3: him Joe Cool though. That's that's that's Montana. That's a cigarette,

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Speaker 6: I think when they had the yeah the AD's going.

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Speaker 2: I think Joe Cool initially was the camp Like when

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Speaker 3: Because that's what they called Joe Montana.

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Speaker 2: I know. But I think Joe Cool was the Campbell

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Speaker 6: And that's where the name then went to Montana.

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Speaker 2: Didn't you guys smokers? No, it's the name of the Campbell.

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Speaker 2: What I thought that was Joe Campbell. I think I

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Speaker 2: I know it from that. It's also listed as a

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Speaker 2: Mendela effect that he was never called Joe Cool who Montana.

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Speaker 2: No Joe Campbell. Oh, but I feel like he was,

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Speaker 2: so I feel like I live in an alternate timeline.

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Speaker 2: I might be right on this one. Boys. Well no,

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Speaker 2: if it's listed, though, it means a lot of people

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Speaker 3: Hey, on that same note too, just a random fact

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Speaker 3: Do you know Yogi Bearra was No, Yogi Bear was

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Speaker 3: Sure, like my parents don't probably don't know who.

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Speaker 2: That is Yogi Berra. Yeah probably they probably, Oh because

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Speaker 2: Yogi Bear is the catcher. Yeah, the bear he just

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Speaker 2: hurt No, okay, saying look, this is the thing coming up.

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Speaker 2: We got Doug Gottlieb. Doug Gollib's awesome Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: He played basketball at Oklahoma State, and we talk about

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Speaker 2: and I listened to him a lot. I think Doug

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Speaker 2: Gotlib's awesome. But the fact that he's still top ten

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Speaker 2: I'd be leading off the show with that every show,

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Speaker 2: the show, top ten assists in the n C Double A,

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Speaker 2: Doug Gottlieb, it's a big deal. So we talk about that,

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Speaker 2: but we also get into the Michigan scandal and more,

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Speaker 2: and then also ESPN betting expert Joe Forton balls On

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Speaker 2: to Vegas to be like a gambler. That's crazy, that's crazy,

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Speaker 2: and how to end up losing streak and how Taylor

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Speaker 2: Glad you guys are here, Why don't we go over

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Speaker 2: and do the tit tat go his name?

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Speaker 4: What do you think is more likely to happen after

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Speaker 4: this season? Jim Harbaugh going to the NFL or Dan

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Speaker 2: I don't think either. What happened now I think less

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Speaker 2: and less the Harball is going to go to the NFL,

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Speaker 2: mostly because I don't think that Michigan would have just

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Speaker 2: that he did. You know, he said, okay, i'll take

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Speaker 2: the three games. Well one of them he already did,

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Speaker 2: so I'll take it too. It's like a judge, go, yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's going you get credited for time served. I don't

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Speaker 2: I now don't think he's gonna go to the NFL.

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Speaker 6: That had to be like a hey, just take this

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Speaker 6: gym and let's move on, right.

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Speaker 2: You know. My theory, My theory is it was worked

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Speaker 2: out to where they've agreed up on I'm gonna just

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Speaker 2: be a lot worse. But if we look like we're

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Speaker 2: being proactive, maybe we'll get less type thing. Because remember,

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Speaker 2: they were gonna like go and file a restraining order

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Speaker 2: and make it not happen. Well they're not doing that now,

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Speaker 2: I wonder why. But they needed to raise a stink

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Speaker 2: That's still my theory. I've not heard that anywhere else,

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Speaker 2: so that's why it's probably really stupid, but that's still

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Speaker 2: my theory that they were in on making that punishment.

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Speaker 2: Because the Big ten's also like, we're good. Now you

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Speaker 2: see him. Yeah, we're all good. Now you did three,

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Speaker 2: we're all good.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he's not involved, but we're good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. So my theory is it benefits

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Speaker 2: the Big ten for them to win games obviously, and

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Speaker 2: for him to not be sitting out, But how can

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Speaker 2: most and make everybody go it's a good punishment that's suitable.

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Speaker 2: I feel like that happened. I don't feel like he'll

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Speaker 2: to tex Who interviewed for it? Guy interviewed, interviewed? Or

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Speaker 3: That's cool. That'd be a huge jump in me texting yeah, coach,

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Speaker 2: Just say that? What do you think? Do you think

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Speaker 2: His name? Yeah, it's just a trailer coach. Don't have

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Speaker 4: Okay, they talked to Jeff trailer is what it says.

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Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna text him a coach. He was

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Speaker 5: Uh, next time we're around Central Texas, we should we.

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Speaker 2: Want to come by. Uh was in Austin.

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Speaker 5: The charity show and almost called to see if you

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Speaker 2: But not too much. Right a paragraph there? Hey, man,

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Speaker 2: In conclusion? Next time? But you uh? Nah? You do

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Speaker 3: I mean you talked to him. I don't talk to him.

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Speaker 6: Hey, this worked for Jerry last year, isn't it true?

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Speaker 3: You're like, san Antonio is cool when we whimby's awesome.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is cool though, this is an inside look

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's good. So there was a part in them

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Speaker 2: It wouldn't be in my best interest, and I wouldn't.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't know. I mean, he doesn't even know I'm

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Speaker 2: All right, but yes, that's so. I'm gonna say Harball

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Speaker 4: Okay, playing in the third straight rank matchup this I

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Speaker 3: Got come on, let's go.

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Speaker 2: Uh, you're the best.

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Speaker 3: We'd love to see you holler whenever you're clothes. You're

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Speaker 2: Not doing that. I'm just establishing, Oh, you haven't asked

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Speaker 2: him to respond to got you, just to know got you?

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Speaker 2: Dang he get he's a quick texture. Well yeah, when

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Speaker 4: And they're playing in their third straight rank matchup this weekend.

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Speaker 4: Do you think this is the weekend that Washington loses

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Speaker 2: Nope, And I'll tell you why. They're Oregon State. They're good,

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Speaker 2: I think Washington maybe just looking ahead. And when people

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Speaker 2: not a trap game. No. I think they win and

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Speaker 2: whatever amount of points, what was it a two point?

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Speaker 2: But I think Washington probably runs it. I'm gonna bet

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Speaker 2: I know c J. Straud is like the dude, but

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Speaker 2: Those are two things you can't fully shake. It's funny.

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Speaker 2: It takes a long time. It's like it's like I

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Speaker 2: got sprayed by a skunk when I was like eight

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Speaker 2: grandma would like put me in tomato juice to wash

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Speaker 2: but it just for like four days, it just slowly

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Speaker 2: That's crazy. That's what being a rookie in a Texan is.

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Speaker 2: You gotta it's gonna take a long time for that

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Speaker 2: the Vikings, even though they have a much harder schedule.

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Speaker 2: hasn't looked rookie like. But rookies usually revert back to

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Speaker 3: I mean, to me, I think that's the story right there.

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Speaker 3: Right Josh Dobbs goes like he's gonna be a legit

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Speaker 2: Uh. But CJ.

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Speaker 3: Stroud, Man, I mean, he hasn't showed rookie. He did

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Speaker 2: They show Texan that's what I well, you know, because

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Speaker 2: But he has a guy named Tank. But but he's hurt, now,

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Speaker 3: And I think Robert Woods comes back. What Dalton Schultz

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Speaker 2: Damian Pierce, I think he's back this week too. These

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Speaker 4: Do you think the NFC and AFC have something to

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Speaker 2: Maybe I feel like I think I feel like it's

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Speaker 3: I think the Eagles and the Cowboys kind of even

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Speaker 6: Yeah, to get the Cowboys and somehow here.

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Speaker 2: I think it's legit. I give you one more.

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Speaker 4: I think it's the season that door's almost shut.

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Speaker 2: They have to win. They can. There's still enough game

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Speaker 2: Do you think the door's still opening a little bit?

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Speaker 2: I think the door is not locked, but it's closed.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think you're at Okay, so you're at a hotel

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Speaker 2: I do feel like they'll win that game. I think

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Speaker 2: not going to be in the way when you're talking

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Speaker 2: about all those in the hunt teams that go up

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Speaker 2: on the screen, the teams that made it. But then

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Speaker 2: also in the hunt, Buffalo is gonna be there. I

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Speaker 2: think they're going too. Out of three, they got it.

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Speaker 2: They have a chance to actually do it all right,

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Speaker 2: there you go. That's the title title. Thanks the title

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Speaker 2: in on the action. We are, oh for our last

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Speaker 2: I don't know we've hit one all year, have we? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I think week two early of this whole whole show.

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Speaker 2: Like last year, there was a point where I was

446
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Speaker 2: ten weeks in a row is unbelieved. I'm getting average out. Yeah,

447
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Speaker 2: some years are better than others. Man, It's just that

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Speaker 2: that's a terrible Michelobs slogan. Rice Is it better than

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Speaker 2: some days some day? So No, I don't know. I

450
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Speaker 2: just think that I looked over it. We're all going

451
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Speaker 2: to pick one game. Yeah, don't be the weak link.

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Speaker 2: That's the goal. I'm saying it to myself too. Don't

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Speaker 2: be the week link. Allright, Kevin, we're doing three games here.

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Speaker 2: What is your game?

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Speaker 4: My game is Michigan the Hardballs going out there against

456
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Speaker 4: Maryland at Maryland minus nineteen.

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Speaker 3: Man, that's the game of the week. That's a tough one.

458
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Speaker 3: I just hate I hate gambling on the game of

459
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Speaker 3: the week because why is it the game of the

460
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Speaker 3: game of the week. Is it Michigan Michigan Maryland? Oh,

461
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Speaker 3: that's not the game of the week. I'm one week behind.

462
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Speaker 2: I thought next week, I'm gonna that's crazy. Yeah, so

463
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Speaker 2: Michigan minus nineteen, Yes, Maryland, I'm gonna go Kansas State

464
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Speaker 2: in that point five, which we've learned is a massive deal.

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Speaker 2: They're minus seven and a half at Kansas, and Kansas

466
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Speaker 2: is pretty good. However, we've been there. Kansas just lost

467
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Speaker 2: our coach. What the Michigan State is he doing it?

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Speaker 2: I think, oh, yeah, you're right that actually you're right,

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Speaker 2: so smart. Kansas State really good team. Anyway, rivalry game,

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Speaker 2: Kansas doesn't have their coach. If I were Kansas, no,

471
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Speaker 2: he's still our coach. We suspended a priestill and science.

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Speaker 2: Come on, guys, get mad, That's what I would do.

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Speaker 2: But I got Kansastate minus seven and a half at Kansas.

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Speaker 3: Eddie, I'm gonna go Oklahoma State money line over Houston.

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Speaker 3: For some reason, I think it was Oklahoma State my

476
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Speaker 3: minus seven over Houston. I thought that was, like, I

477
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Speaker 3: don't know, it's a little weird because Houston's not that

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Speaker 3: good of a team. They did what they beat Texas?

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Speaker 3: They almost beat Texas. How did that go?

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Speaker 2: I think that almost be they played they played Texas close. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's something like that. So I think that drives

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Speaker 3: the line a little bit. But I mean, I'm not

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Speaker 3: worried about it.

484
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Speaker 2: Let's just go. Well, you bet you're betting the money

485
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Speaker 2: line on a seven point game?

486
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Speaker 3: Yeahah yeah, yeah, I think that helps us a little

487
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Speaker 3: be the weaklink. Yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 2: Right, I gotta win some here, right, I.

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Speaker 3: Mean, we could go crazy and do the minus seven,

490
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Speaker 3: but I think we should do money line.

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Speaker 2: All right, So there we go, Kansas state minus seven

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Speaker 2: and a half, Michigan minus minus nineteen, and Oklahoma State

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Speaker 2: Now let's get to our interview with Fox Sports Radios

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Speaker 2: Doug Gottlieb Great Show, Great Podcast. He played point guard

503
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Speaker 2: at Oklahoma State. He holds all of Oklahoma State's assist records.

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Speaker 2: He's top ten in the NC double A still and assists.

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Speaker 2: You can listen to a show daily on Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Here is Doug Gottlieb. Doug, what's up? Man?

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Speaker 8: All good man?

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Speaker 7: Hey?

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Speaker 2: I was looking at the Wikipedia for all time assists leaders,

511
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Speaker 2: and I had known that you were one of the

512
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Speaker 2: top ten NC double assist leaders of all time. I

513
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Speaker 2: would just be obsessed with making sure that nobody was

514
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Speaker 2: coming up on me. Do you look and see who's

515
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Speaker 2: approaching so you don't get knocked off the top of

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Speaker 2: the list.

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Speaker 8: It's like the guys that are good enough usually go pro.

518
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Speaker 8: You know these COVID year guys. You're worried about guys

519
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Speaker 8: getting fifth in six years coming up beating you. Oh yeah,

520
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Speaker 8: last year, Noel whatever from Kansas State. Huh Marquis Nowell, Yeah,

521
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Speaker 8: he was getting really close to my single season in

522
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Speaker 8: the Big twelve, and had they won in the Elite eight,

523
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Speaker 8: I was cooked and he was like really close. I

524
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Speaker 8: think he finished like three short of me. So I

525
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Speaker 8: hadn't been in that position before. But I was like, yeah, dude,

526
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Speaker 8: like anybody who says they don't give it about their

527
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Speaker 8: records is fully you know, like you want something for posterity.

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Speaker 8: I used to be seventh, and the guy who's sixth

529
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Speaker 8: is Greg Anthony. I was literally three short of him.

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Speaker 8: He played a whole bunch more games than I did

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Speaker 8: because they went to they won a national championship, and

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Speaker 8: they went to the national semi finals. Right, But like,

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Speaker 8: I'm still bitter because my junior year, when I led

534
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Speaker 8: the country and assist, I was in the doghouse for

535
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Speaker 8: eight games. So I actually, in overall average, that was

536
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Speaker 8: the fewest minutes per game I played in my career.

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Speaker 8: And so obviously had I not been the doghouse, or

538
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Speaker 8: my coach just like benched me for a game or

539
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Speaker 8: not played me for a game like you mentioned me

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Speaker 8: just like one game, Hey, you don't play, it wouldn't

541
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Speaker 8: have hurt my average, but it would hurt my average

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Speaker 8: but when or my average, but my overall total would

543
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Speaker 8: have been lower. But I went through a stretch for

544
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Speaker 8: I was playing like eight or ten minutes anyway, So

545
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Speaker 8: then you're like, if he hadn't done that to me,

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Speaker 8: I would have been like third or fourth all the time,

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Speaker 8: you know, so there's a yes, I definitely pay attention

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Speaker 8: to it. I'm not gonna lie to you.

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Speaker 2: I saw Gary Payton as below. That's pretty cool. You're

550
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Speaker 2: above Gary Payton.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, but he did all kinds of others.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. I just see a list and Gary.

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Speaker 8: Payton that's true.

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Speaker 2: Who yeah, who cares? So a big fan. Been listening

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Speaker 2: to you forever. Obviously we've established kind of a personal

556
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Speaker 2: relationship as well, so I really appreciate you coming on here.

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Speaker 2: A couple of things I wanted to talk with you about.

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Speaker 2: First of all, as being an assist guy, did you

559
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Speaker 2: ever feel like teams knew you wouldn't shoot, like they're like, yes,

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Speaker 2: it was just back off. And do you feel like

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Speaker 2: you had to then have games where you would prove

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Speaker 2: you could still put up fifteen to.

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Speaker 8: Twenty Yeah, but I couldn't. There was like three games,

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Speaker 8: So I mean, it's really interesting because like forever in

565
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Speaker 8: the Big Twelve, all being known as a guy that

566
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Speaker 8: could make every pass, but you know, couldn't throw it

567
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Speaker 8: in the ocean. And my last Big Twelve tournament game

568
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Speaker 8: we played Iowa State. That Iowa State team was probably

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Speaker 8: the second best team in the country that year. They

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Speaker 8: lost to Michigan State in the Elite Eight, who ultimately

571
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Speaker 8: won the national championship, and Iowa State AIRYU. Stacey was

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Speaker 8: the coach and he tells everybody to this day, and

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Speaker 8: there's other guys that are head coaches who are assistants

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Speaker 8: on that staff. But I'll tell you that their whole

575
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Speaker 8: game plan was not just to let me shoot, but

576
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Speaker 8: also when I drive, they'd fake and then make me finish.

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Speaker 8: Because I got to this point where like all I

578
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Speaker 8: did was pass, you know. It was like it was

579
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Speaker 8: like the Yipps at first, and then it just kind

580
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Speaker 8: of took over my game and it was it was

581
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Speaker 8: literally playing without a jump shot. It was really hard,

582
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Speaker 8: and there were a couple of games where it went away,

583
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Speaker 8: where the like anxiety of it went away, and like

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Speaker 8: I had nineteen against Southern Miss. I had my last

585
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Speaker 8: home gome against Oklahoma. I had two big threes. We

586
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 8: played at Kansasite a couple of big threes, but generally

587
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,719
Speaker 8: I just mentally, emotionally couldn't get myself to relax shooting,

588
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Speaker 8: and everybody in the league knew it. So it was

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Speaker 8: really it's actually like you ask people like what I

590
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Speaker 8: was able to accomplish, especially like my senior year is

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Speaker 8: kind of gratifying, because literally played without a jump shot,

592
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Speaker 8: and that's hard. It's like living without one of your senses.

593
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 8: So all the rest of your senses become heightened, but

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Speaker 8: that one sense is really really hard to play without.

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Speaker 2: Do you feel like you lost your shot as you

596
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Speaker 2: got older and specialized more meeting in high school? Could

597
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Speaker 2: you fill it out better?

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Speaker 8: Oh? Yeah, yeah. I mean I wouldn't have been recruited

599
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Speaker 8: and been rated as highly as I was if I

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Speaker 8: couldn't shoot. I mean I was never step Curry, but

601
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Speaker 8: I pattered my game after Bobby Hurly, and you know,

602
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Speaker 8: he got to be a better, better shooter. In college,

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Speaker 8: I was a I scored, I was the ultimately scored

604
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Speaker 8: in my high school. I had forty four in a game.

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Speaker 8: I could shoot and score well enough, but I'm ultimately

606
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 8: a bit of, I think, a control freak. And so

607
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Speaker 8: part of what happened early in my career and then

608
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Speaker 8: at Notre Dame and then at Oklahoma State was, you know,

609
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Speaker 8: I wanted to control who got the shots and kind

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Speaker 8: of be the hero by creating opportunities for my teammates.

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Speaker 8: And I also I got big and strong, and I

612
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Speaker 8: think I lost some of my touch. And then when

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Speaker 8: I lost some of my touch and I was trying

614
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Speaker 8: to control things, you know, then your shooting percentages go

615
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Speaker 8: down and down and down, and then you just kind

616
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Speaker 8: of get in this mentality of Okay, if I just

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Speaker 8: do what I can do best, and if I don't

618
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Speaker 8: miss a shot, I'll never come out of the game.

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Speaker 8: I hated coming out of games, and it worked against

620
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Speaker 8: me because I figured if I don't miss, well, you

621
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Speaker 8: can't take me out. So if I don't shoot, I

622
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 8: can't miss. So I just wouldn't shoot, and then ultimately

623
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Speaker 8: people would dare me to shoot, and then it became

624
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Speaker 8: really difficult.

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Speaker 2: If I'm making sense, would they ever talk trash and

626
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Speaker 2: be like you can't shoot? He hey, you can't shoot

627
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 2: shoot it? Shoot it every game?

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Speaker 8: Really every game, every game, and it's you know, you

629
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Speaker 8: sit there and literally the hardest thing to do, I

630
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 8: think is you're wide open every time you get It's

631
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Speaker 8: like Ben Simmons, how they is like, you're open. You

632
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 8: can shoot the ball anytime you want, and it's technically

633
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 8: an open shot, you know. And again this is also

634
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Speaker 8: remember this is in like ninety nine, two thousand. So

635
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Speaker 8: what my so, like my coach at the time, like

636
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Speaker 8: taken in a good better shot, Like it's actually a

637
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Speaker 8: better shot to shoot a three where you can make

638
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,479
Speaker 8: if you make you know, three out of ten, it's

639
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 8: it's equally as good as making you know, four out

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Speaker 8: of ten or five out of ten two's. And so I,

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Speaker 8: you know, if I can go back and do it,

642
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 8: I would have sat down my coach and be like, look, man,

643
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Speaker 8: you gotta let me. Just let me do. Let me

644
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Speaker 8: shoot what I'm open, don't take me out out take

645
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Speaker 8: me out when I turned down open shots, and if

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Speaker 8: I make a couple, everything else will open up. But

647
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Speaker 8: I didn't, you know, I was intimidated, and I was

648
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 8: in my own head, and you know it, it became

649
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 8: really really hard, and I take a personal sort of

650
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 8: pride from it. You know. The way I tried to

651
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 8: work it in my mind was if I sucked athletically,

652
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 8: or if I sucked at others, they wouldn't they wouldn't

653
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 8: play off me, right, There'd be no fear of me, period.

654
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 8: But the reality is it's hard for me even to

655
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 8: go back and watch or show my kids my kid

656
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 8: that the way I played, because it's kind of embarrassing

657
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 8: when guys playing five feet offee and you don't shoot.

658
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 2: Could you go back and take tape and appeal and

659
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 2: be like, no, this was an assist. You guys did

660
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 2: not count it. I need to move up the layers

661
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 2: two assists from this game because I'll be doing that crap.

662
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 8: It's a great question and the answer is one time.

663
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 8: So we played against UNLB and a really a guy

664
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 8: who's become a really good friend of mine's thing is

665
00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 8: Mark Dipple. Mark is Australia and Mark was there point guard.

666
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 8: And so we played them my junior year when we

667
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 8: stomped them, and that was when I came out of

668
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 8: the dog. I was in the doghouse. I was going

669
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 8: to leave the team. And I had a great game

670
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 8: in Vegas, and as as chance would happen, we played

671
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 8: them again my senior year, also in Vegas, and so

672
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:21,239
Speaker 8: we get down. We mollywomped them, and I remember I'd

673
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 8: always gotten a statue half time and after the game and

674
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 8: I grabbed a statute and I had like four assists,

675
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 8: and I was like, what the you know, this is

676
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 8: some bowl and our other our assistant coach was my

677
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 8: coach's son, his named Sean Sutton, who was also point guard.

678
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 8: And he's like, oh, there's some you know. Like so

679
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 8: we actually went back and I was and I know

680
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 8: in my mind about how many I had, Like I

681
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,959
Speaker 8: was like, I think I had thirteen or fourteen. And

682
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 8: we went back and like literally by definition of assist

683
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 8: it was like twelve. And I was trying to you know,

684
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 8: I was trying to lead the country again. I was

685
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 8: trying to get the all time mark, which is Bobby

686
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 8: Hurley's mark, which is probably out of reach. So we

687
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 8: sent it BA, We sent it to the NCAA and

688
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 8: they get I think they gave me nine gave me

689
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 8: nine A sists. So that was the only time we

690
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 8: ever did that. And really, like here's here's how crazy

691
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 8: in what a small world Oklahoma State is. And you

692
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 8: know this from your time with your TV show and

693
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 8: go into all these small college towns. Right is the

694
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 8: guy who kept stats at Oklahoma State is named Lee Manser.

695
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 8: Lee's son Brendon, played there. Lee was my marketing professors.

696
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 8: Matter of fact, my last course that I had to take,

697
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 8: I took correspondence my senior year. I had three hours

698
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 8: left and it took me four years to complete it.

699
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 8: But like he was a hard ass, not just like

700
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 8: literally correspondence courses. He could have just gave me a

701
00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 8: CEA or whatever. I had to do all the work.

702
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 8: But it's the same way with statting. Like I my

703
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 8: stats weren't great at home all the time they weren't.

704
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 8: It wasn't like they pumped up my stats. I had

705
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 8: my marketing professor who was screwing me with my stats.

706
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 8: So I know one would you get screwed on the road,

707
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 8: but at home, like lead Manser was, buy the book

708
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 8: an assist and assist. I'm not giving you extras. And

709
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 8: so if you go back and watch tape, there'd be

710
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 8: passes where I turn and I point to my marketing

711
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 8: professor who's keeping the stats for our team. That's a

712
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:27,280
Speaker 8: real story.

713
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 2: Just to remind him, Hey, leap, don't miss that.

714
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:33,800
Speaker 8: That's exactly what I do. That's an assist. He'd be like, like,

715
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 8: that's an assist.

716
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 7: Doug Gottlieb show directly.

717
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 8: To a basket.

718
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 2: That's the definition of the podcast is really good. It's

719
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 2: all ball with Doug Gottlieb, and you can listen to

720
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 2: it on iHeartRadio wherever you listen to your podcasts, or

721
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 2: the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio three to

722
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 2: five Eastern. So a couple of things I wanted to talk.

723
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Speaker 8: I ask you a question, you know, Okay, come on,

724
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 8: let me just ask you one question.

725
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm ready.

726
00:34:55,840 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 8: Okay. So I've said this like voy Seat is the

727
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,399
Speaker 8: best city that you'll never visit? Yes to a lot

728
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:02,720
Speaker 8: of people.

729
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 2: Yes, okay.

730
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 8: And there's Charleston's like that. There's a lot of places

731
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 8: like that. And you traveled this entire country. Heck, I

732
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 8: know you traveled the book. So here's here's a legit question.

733
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 8: All these college towns you've been, you've been to? Where's

734
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 8: the place you're like? I kind of wish I would

735
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 8: have gone here. This is if I could go back

736
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 8: and pick a place, this would be the past.

737
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 2: It's funny you bring up Boise because Eddie, what do

738
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 2: I say about Boise? Boise, Man, it's wonderful. What do

739
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 2: I say? It's better than Oh, it's.

740
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 3: Another country, which is no Hawaii, Hawaii.

741
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 2: That's right, that's right, it's another country.

742
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 8: I said, if I got to pick you feels like

743
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:38,800
Speaker 8: another country.

744
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 2: I when I spent time there when I was doing

745
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:45,800
Speaker 2: my that Geo show. I had no idea how versatile

746
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 2: that city is. It doesn't matter what you want to do.

747
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 2: There's some cosmopolitan part of it, there's the outdoors part

748
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 2: of it, there's the traditional sports part. Boise was awesome,

749
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 2: a little too cold for me, But I often am like,

750
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 2: Boise is better than Hawaii to me, cause I've been

751
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 2: to Hawaii a bunch and I don't even like the beach.

752
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 2: I know you're from California. I like, I grew up

753
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 2: in Arkansas. We didn't have beach. I don't like the beach.

754
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 2: I don't even know what you do. You sit there

755
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,879
Speaker 2: in the sand. Okay, what do I do now?

756
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:09,919
Speaker 7: Yeah?

757
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 8: I mean Lake, Honestly, Lake in many ways to be

758
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 8: better than beach. I'm not gonna lie to you there.

759
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 8: Yeah it's warmer. Yeah, there's there's a a lot of

760
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,959
Speaker 8: these plus like super fear of dying for me in

761
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 8: like waves. So I'm the guy who grew up in

762
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 8: Orange County and I suck at surfing. My son laughs

763
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 8: at me and says I'm the worst, But I'm kind

764
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 8: of with you. I mean, Hawaii does have incredible hikes.

765
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 8: You know, and and different topography than than we.

766
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 2: Have times out of time zones off in Hawaii can't

767
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 2: work there.

768
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, the time zone is really hard.

769
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 2: So Boys is good. I think Madison was. Content's awesome

770
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 2: if it just wasn't so cold.

771
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 8: I think it's it's it's so freaking cold there.

772
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 2: I mean, we went really did a show at the

773
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 2: or Film there once and it was winter, and we

774
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 2: had winter in Arkansas. We had seasons. However, we didn't

775
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,879
Speaker 2: have lakes that froze over and jeeps would drive on them.

776
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 2: We pulled over the car and Eddie wanted to go

777
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,280
Speaker 2: walk out on the lake because it was just frozen.

778
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 3: I'm from South Texas, man, I've never seen anything like that.

779
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 2: That to me was bizarre. It was awesome. So Madison

780
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 2: is a really cool town. I like passion. I like

781
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 2: almost rabid passion Athens, Georgia, and I'm not saying it

782
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 2: because Georgia is good. I like the climate and I

783
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 2: like the music scene. I think Athens, Georgia obviously is

784
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 2: my favorite, but Athens, Georgia is probably number one with Boise.

785
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 8: You and I've been so many places urban ones. The

786
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 8: most underrated urban one I think is the University of

787
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 8: Washington because Seattle feels like a different country land. You're like, man,

788
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 8: this is really far from the rest of the country,

789
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 8: but it's close enough to the city. You have the

790
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 8: water right there. It's a cool look in campus. That's

791
00:37:56,360 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 8: I think my most underrated urban one in terms of

792
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 8: like college town or place that I could I could

793
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 8: totally dig. Like I love Austin. I don't think I

794
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 8: could go to school in Austin. I just feel like,

795
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 8: I don't know if there's so much other stuff going on.

796
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 8: I love at Oklahoma State how it was just all

797
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 8: about the school. New Mexico's kind of underrated. To be

798
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 8: totally honest with you, I like Utah State in Logan,

799
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 8: Utah that that's actually a super the Cash Valley again,

800
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 8: I know you don't like cold, actually very hot, warm

801
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 8: in the summer, and kind of smoggy. It's like, I

802
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 8: think it's the smoggiest place in the country.

803
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 2: Warm me up, let's go global warming baby.

804
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 8: It's it's really But if I was gonna pick one

805
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 8: and I was like, man, if I could do it

806
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 8: all over again, I think it would probably be Tuscaloosa.

807
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 2: No way, You're out of your mind. You're out of

808
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 2: your mind.

809
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 8: Well, I took a visit to Tuscal Lusa when this

810
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 8: is before they were really good in football. I had

811
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 8: I trained for from Notre Dame and I was sitting

812
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 8: out of junior college and I went there and uh,

813
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 8: they had I'm Jewish and they have the Jewish training.

814
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 8: The Sammy's through me a party just for me. I

815
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 8: have my own female escort to the party. It was.

816
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 8: It was so cool, like just the South. I don't

817
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 8: know how they do it in the South is really cool.

818
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 8: The only issue I have with schools in the South

819
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,760
Speaker 8: is that they care about basketball and the big games,

820
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 8: but they kind of don't give a crap most of

821
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 8: the year, Whereas when I was at Oklahoma State, like

822
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 8: we kind of ran the school and that was very

823
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 8: very cool.

824
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 2: Maybe Tuscaloosa for both of us, is just associated with

825
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 2: an emotion. I just associated with getting the crap kicked

826
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 2: out of me every time we go down and play football,

827
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 2: Like I have to go stand within amongst the statues

828
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 2: here the place.

829
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 8: Wait wait, wait, wait wait, I'm gonna switch. I want

830
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 8: to switch full miss.

831
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, all miss is awesome. Boxer is awesome.

832
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 8: I just because like you go. It's like going back

833
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 8: in time when you go to their little town square.

834
00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:58,439
Speaker 7: It's so cool.

835
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 2: It's a little rich. It's a little rich for me,

836
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 2: not like cake, like money, and like I didn't have

837
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 2: money for most of my life and it was like

838
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 2: all rich people and like fraternities and sororities. But yeah,

839
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 2: it is.

840
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,399
Speaker 8: It definitely is. I will point out, Bobby, I don't

841
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 8: know if you know this, but you are rich now.

842
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 2: Now, yes, But I still I still feel like I'm

843
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 2: not for the most part.

844
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 3: He's not talking about cake either, No, right, yeah, no.

845
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 7: No, Look, I get it.

846
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 8: Like I remember when I was to Notre Dame my

847
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 8: freshman year, and you know, people can google. It's not

848
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 8: hard to find like I screwed up, but it's stupid,

849
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 8: stupid stuff. But I loved some of the spirit of it.

850
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 8: But I did feel like obviously I had never been

851
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,760
Speaker 8: to a private school, I wasn't Catholic. But more than anything,

852
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 8: there was a lot of affluence there and I was

853
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 8: just a kid from Orange, California, and it was I'm

854
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 8: not I'm not saying like I walked uphill to school barefoot,

855
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 8: but naked in the snow. You know, it's up both ways,

856
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 8: but I didn't come from a ton and I just

857
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 8: felt like, I remember they had j Crew catalogs that

858
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 8: got delivered to our entire dorm, and dudes who get

859
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 8: the jqu getalog and the others go through and they

860
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 8: this is what I want, and they would tell their

861
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 8: mom whatever and they ordered, and it's like, I didn't

862
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 8: even know what Jake Crew was. Like literally had one

863
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:19,359
Speaker 8: pair of jeans and had my mom got me this

864
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 8: horrendous LLBean parka green Llllbean parka, and that was like

865
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 8: my warm my winter coat, and I anytime it was

866
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 8: below fifty. You talked about Madison and weather. What people

867
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 8: don't know about being by the lake, especially on the

868
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 8: other side of Lake Michigan, is it's not just lake

869
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 8: effects snow. You get lake effect overcast weather. So I mean,

870
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 8: I remember not seeing the sun for the entire month

871
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:51,359
Speaker 8: of November, like literally the sun never came out late

872
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 8: October November and in December and then it got cold

873
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,720
Speaker 8: and snowy and it really kind of affected you mentally.

874
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 8: So that's that's the part of that, that side of it.

875
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 2: That's why I didn't play football in the Big Ten. Oh,

876
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,359
Speaker 2: that's it, because it was just too cold for me.

877
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 2: I just didn't feel like for me, that was you know,

878
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 2: the ingredients weren't there. So, speaking of football, a couple

879
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 2: of things here, because I listened to you, and you

880
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 2: have no fear, which I admire in just giving your

881
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 2: opinion and if you're wrong, going hey, you know way

882
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 2: back then, that's kind of wrong. But so I like

883
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 2: that because sometimes I struggle with saying I'm wrong. I

884
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 2: just forget ever said it. I'm like, no, never heard

885
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 2: of it. So let's talk for a second about c J. Stroud. Now,

886
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 2: what did you think of c J. Stroud when he

887
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 2: when he was drafted by the Texans, and then what

888
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 2: do you think of him now? And what's the difference

889
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 2: in your mind on what he can do his ceiling?

890
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 8: Okay, so we all carry like biases right against guys,

891
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 8: and the problem is you went to a high state

892
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 8: and how many O high state quarterbacks have we seen

893
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 8: that they're throwing the guys thro are wide open?

894
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 7: You know?

895
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 8: So like how much skill does it take when you

896
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 8: have It's like the back when USC was rolling and

897
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 8: Carson Palmer was great, Matt Lioner wasn't a good college,

898
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 8: wasn't a great pro quarterback. Why because like in the pros,

899
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:11,879
Speaker 8: you've got to throw guys open. You don't have better

900
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 8: players than everybody else. So I think part of the CJ.

901
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 8: Stroud thing was like the quarterback. The two quarterbacks before

902
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 8: him had both put up ridiculous numbers and weren't good pros,

903
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 8: And you're watching a guy he didn't move around a

904
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 8: ton and he was just kind of okay, again based

905
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 8: upon the billing last year. Meanwhile, Bryce Young I saw

906
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 8: playing high school. I live close to modern day at

907
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 8: friends that are there, and he's always been seen as

908
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 8: this like quarterbacks savant, can read defenses, can move around

909
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 8: and throw, and he's tiny. He's he's by NFL standards,

910
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 8: he's an oompalloomba. You know, he's not part of the

911
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 8: lollipop lollipop game. And I thought, okay, well, outside of

912
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 8: him being small, and there's been small guys Russell Wilson, Kyler, Murray,

913
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 8: Drew Brees, maybe he can do it because he has

914
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 8: all these other things. C J. Stroud is bigger, stronger,

915
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 8: But like, does he move that well? Is he really

916
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 8: that good? Is it just that Ohio State has way

917
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 8: better players than everybody else's Ohio State has this like

918
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 8: it's like Alabama. They have all these great wide receivers

919
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 8: and they're just better than nine of the ten opponents

920
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,839
Speaker 8: they play. So I carried that against him and I

921
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 8: was like, I don't get it. I don't see him

922
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 8: being star. And then you kind of watch and look.

923
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 8: Last week is the is the perfect example. They had

924
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 8: a big lead, he did throw a big pick, and

925
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 8: they did nearly give away a ten point lead on

926
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 8: the road. But this is I think two weeks in

927
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 8: a row that he's led him on a gigantic drive

928
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 8: and made big plays. What's his ceiling? I mean, I

929
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 8: don't know if he can be a superstar, but you

930
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 8: can't do anything in the NFL unless you have a

931
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 8: dude back there, a guy you can count on, a

932
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 8: guy that can play, can deliver the mail. He doesn't

933
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 8: have to be Aaron Rodgers, he doesn't have to be

934
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 8: Pat Mahomes. But he can't be one of these guys

935
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 8: that stinks. He can't be Zack Wilson. He can't be

936
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 8: a guy that in the real magic to building a

937
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 8: team in the NFL is you got to do it.

938
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,760
Speaker 8: During years two, three, and four of their rookie contract

939
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 8: because they don't make much money, and then you can

940
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 8: build a whole roster around them. Houston has that. So

941
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 8: that's where I I do two things, though, Bobby, I

942
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 8: want to make sure I point this out. I will

943
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 8: say that I'm wrong, But I also don't hate saying

944
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 8: when I was right. You know, everybody was like, you know,

945
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 8: I don't want to be that guy.

946
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 7: No.

947
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 8: I like being that guy. I really like being that

948
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 8: guy that says yet no, I like to say I

949
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 8: told you so, what about that? That's why it works

950
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 8: for me.

951
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 2: The situation in Michigan right now, is this going to

952
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 2: get worse before it gets better? Or will we just

953
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 2: look back at this and laugh in three years.

954
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 8: I think we'll look back and laugh three years. It's stupid, stupid,

955
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 8: you know, I mean, look, was there Hubris? Is that

956
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 8: why they sent some ex marine out on the road

957
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 8: to go? And yeah, and like he put everything under

958
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 8: his own name, like they weren't even trying to hide it.

959
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 8: But like this idea of a dance scouting, I mean,

960
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 8: I don't know if you know this story. Mike Leach,

961
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,919
Speaker 8: the late Mike Leech, who of course was at Mississippi State,

962
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 8: Washington State and Texas Tech, and there's a story you

963
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,760
Speaker 8: can google and see it online. He was the offensive

964
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 8: coordinator at Oklahoma Bob Stoops's first year nineteen ninety nine

965
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 8: two thousand and they beat Texas and the famous story

966
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 8: was they left a scatter report mistakenly on the field

967
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 8: at the Cotton Bowl before the game, and then they

968
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 8: knew Texas thought things were coming and they did the opposite. Right,

969
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 8: this stuff's been happening. Like I played football growing up,

970
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 8: and I remember like we used to line up with

971
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 8: our backs to the other team in case they were

972
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 8: spying on us. High school football teams think somebody's spying that.

973
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 8: So everybody assumes somebody's looking and trying to find your signals.

974
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 8: You know, basketball teams they used copy or they go

975
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 8: to a tournament and they find your hand signals and

976
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 8: your calls. They wouldn't have three different signs and guys

977
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 8: you know, you know, doing the Larry Moe and Curly

978
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 8: if they didn't think somebody was saying I just I

979
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 8: think part of it is people don't really like harball.

980
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 8: Part of it is there is some a ton of

981
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 8: arrogance there with Michigan, and part of it is like

982
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 8: we've crept in this era now where everybody has a

983
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:22,839
Speaker 8: cell phone, so there's no real secrets, right, and we

984
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 8: knew this was going on, and there's counterintelligence going on

985
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 8: as well. It looks bad they're holding harball out and

986
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,399
Speaker 8: I'm only interested in what happens against Ohio State if

987
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 8: that somehow changes the tenor of the game. I don't

988
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 8: think he makes play calls. I don't think he does

989
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 8: a ton game day outside of that one decision. Do

990
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 8: we go for it, do we not go for it?

991
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 8: Do we punt here? Do we go for it? You know,

992
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 8: like the last and final word you're missing and the

993
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,760
Speaker 8: adjustments at halftime for a guy who you know played

994
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 8: at every level and played well and then has coached

995
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 8: at every level and coached well. So I think those

996
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 8: things you are missing. But yeah, we're gonna look back

997
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 8: and go really, you know, it's like you know this,

998
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 8: the SEC was buying kids long before nil, like that's

999
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,839
Speaker 8: the best advantage you can have have better players than

1000
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 8: the other team, whereas the Big Ten like this is cheating.

1001
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 8: The SEC has to be laughing at the Big Ten.

1002
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 2: Speaking of the SEC, my final question here is Texas

1003
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 2: A and M who I understand who would take the job,

1004
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,280
Speaker 2: somebody that wants to get paid. But I mean the

1005
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:29,800
Speaker 2: expectations for that program seem now to have outgrown actually

1006
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 2: what that program can do. Your thoughts on that job,

1007
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:35,919
Speaker 2: who who will? Who would be good there? And why

1008
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 2: in the world would they take it?

1009
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:42,280
Speaker 8: Nothing says college football more than Texas A and M. Okay,

1010
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 8: Because if you were to write down what you need

1011
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 8: to be successful in college football, right, Okay, you need

1012
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 8: to be in a location close to proximity where players are.

1013
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 8: Can you get any better than an hour and a

1014
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 8: half from Houston? You cannot. You need to have resources.

1015
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 8: They got everything, got money. They're paying a dude's seventy

1016
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 8: six million to not coach. Oh what what you know?

1017
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 8: You need resources, financial resists, you need facilities, You need

1018
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 8: a passionate fan base. You need some history. They don't

1019
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,839
Speaker 8: have much recent history, but I mean they had Manziella, Hell,

1020
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 8: they had Kyler Murray, like they had dudes there. You

1021
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 8: need all these things, and yet they still are the

1022
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,359
Speaker 8: exact same program they were in the decade plus they

1023
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 8: were in the Big twelve. Right, they're like eight and

1024
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,760
Speaker 8: five every year. And it's one of those things where

1025
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 8: it feels like the more they want it, the tighter

1026
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 8: they grip it. And look, let's also be honest, that

1027
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 8: place is it may not be a cult, but it

1028
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 8: feels a little like a cult, right, it just does.

1029
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 8: Like am I am I an alternate universe? And you

1030
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 8: asked about places that you would go, Like, that's kind

1031
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 8: of a place where it's not really my jam, but

1032
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 8: I can understand if it was your jam. Like, no

1033
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 8: one loves their school and loves their thing more than Agris,

1034
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 8: but they just have two many meddlers. You know, they're

1035
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 8: like the high school. They like the youth football team

1036
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 8: that has all the players, but all the parents are

1037
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 8: trying to coach from the stands. That's the only explanation

1038
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 8: for why they can't get it right is they have

1039
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 8: so many people meddling that the second they lose, it's,

1040
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 8: you know, the world is crashing down on us. Who

1041
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 8: wants that job? I mean, look, it's a you can

1042
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 8: you can retire on that money. But it feels like

1043
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 8: in every sport there's a job like this. In the NBA,

1044
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 8: it's the New York Knicks. How many guys have taken

1045
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 8: that job? Like I can fix the New York Knicks.

1046
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 8: If I win, They're going to have a ticker tape parade.

1047
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,359
Speaker 8: You know, in the Valley of champions everybody thinks they

1048
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,839
Speaker 8: can do it, and no one's done it, you know,

1049
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 8: And that's college. This is the college football program that

1050
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 8: there's no reason that they can't have their moment to shine,

1051
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 8: you know, because they have everything everything. There's zero reason.

1052
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 8: And they've hired like that's a guy that's won a

1053
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 8: national championship and won a national championship when he was

1054
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 8: at LSU as well on saban staff, Like he's not

1055
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 8: an idiot. Like his ego might be out of control,

1056
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 8: but he's not an idiot. Dennis Francioni he won everywhere

1057
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 8: when he got there, couldn't win there, and they had

1058
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 8: dudes when someone was there, they could never figure it out.

1059
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 8: I just think it's one of those jobs where it

1060
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 8: looks really really good because it checks all these boxes,

1061
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 8: but when you kind of get down to it, you're

1062
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 8: like kind of a cult. Everybody's got an opinion. The

1063
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 8: second things go bad, people bail on you. I don't know,

1064
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 8: I get why. And here's one other thing. Nil has

1065
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 8: changed one thing in college sports. It used to be

1066
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 8: about location, location, location. You can't win a national championship

1067
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 8: at Oregon because there's no in state players. Well, now

1068
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:54,439
Speaker 8: doesn't matter because players can fly their family in, fly

1069
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 8: their girls in whatever. And the Big Ten is a

1070
00:51:56,960 --> 00:52:00,120
Speaker 8: national conference. Every game's on TV, and as long as

1071
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Speaker 8: you play, you know they'll probably find a way to

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Speaker 8: play a game of year. In the state of Texas,

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Speaker 8: I think you'll be okay. So it's look around the sport.

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Speaker 8: Location matters less than it ever has before. And so

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Speaker 8: a lot of these other coaches are like, I don't

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Speaker 8: know what I like to get paid, sure, but do

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Speaker 8: I want to put up with all that crap where

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Speaker 8: I have to worry? Because remember, you're not just dealing

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Speaker 8: with boosters. Now with nil you have to deal with agents, parents, players,

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Speaker 8: transfer portal stuff. As the second you see a kid,

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Speaker 8: he wants to leave administrators. And it's even political. In

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Speaker 8: the state of Texas, you got governors that want to

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Speaker 8: meddle with what you're doing in football. So it's a

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Speaker 8: complicated gig. That's why it makes a lot, and somebody's

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Speaker 8: going to take it. But I don't know if anybody's

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Speaker 8: found that kind of cure for football cancer, because that's

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Speaker 2: The Doug Gotlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio Monday through

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Speaker 8: I want in studio. I want to be one of

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Speaker 2: All right, that's all deal, Dundee.

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Speaker 8: I'm fan as well. I want to reach out of

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Speaker 2: was known as Daily Wager. He's also a co host

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Speaker 2: he is Joe Fortenbaugh. Hey Joe, how's it.

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Speaker 7: Going, Bobby? I'm well today? How are you?

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Speaker 2: Hey? Good? I was, I've been following you for a while.

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Speaker 2: But what's to me to move to Vegas and live

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Speaker 2: the lifestyle in Vegas and tried to learn from others

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Speaker 2: that are our sports better people in the know? Is

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Speaker 2: there actually an in the no in Vegas? Like what

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Speaker 2: is the in the know?

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Speaker 7: Sports betting wise? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Like no, like sports betting? Like who how when they're

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Speaker 2: set in these lines? And I'm sure when you're living

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Speaker 2: there and you're in the mix, who's set in the

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Speaker 2: lines and who? And how do they know?

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Speaker 7: So you've got well, it depends on what type of

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Speaker 7: sports book you're talking about, right, Like you go to

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Speaker 7: a sharp book with smart guys, the Westgates one of them,

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Speaker 7: Circus one of them. Those are two examples. They've got

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Speaker 7: teams of guys there that talk these lines out, they

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Speaker 7: originate the lines. They'll say, this is what we make

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Speaker 7: it they'll post it and they'll go from there. Other

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Speaker 7: places will just copy what they do and they'll let

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Speaker 7: that number get beat up a little bit by professional

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Speaker 7: betters and all that, and when it rounds in the form,

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Speaker 7: then they'll post it so that they won't have as

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Speaker 7: much liability. But the guys who do it are very

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Speaker 7: very bright. They sit in a room, they have their algorithms,

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Speaker 7: their models, their opinions, and they talk it out and

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Speaker 7: they post. Sometimes they get hit, but for the most part,

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Speaker 7: like with the guys that work at the Westgate, those

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Speaker 7: guys are very very bright.

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Speaker 2: I always feel like they know somebody they call like

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Speaker 2: the backup center and they're like, Yo, how's Joe's ankle?

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Speaker 2: Like is that part of the process too, like actually

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Speaker 2: knowing stuff?

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Speaker 7: I mean they Okay, here's an example. Right the Deshaun

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Speaker 7: Watson news breaks. Now that point spread is sitting everywhere

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Speaker 7: at about four and a half. The Steelers are four

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Speaker 7: and a half point underdog Browns are four and a

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Speaker 7: half point favorite. Totals around thirty seven and a half.

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Speaker 7: The second that happens, there's two ways you can go.

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Speaker 7: Some places pull the line off the board so nobody

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Speaker 7: can bet it. Some places adjust their numbers, and we

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Speaker 7: saw it move all the way through three down to

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Speaker 7: about two or two and a half. Total comes down

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Speaker 7: from about thirty seven and a half to thirty four.

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Speaker 7: That moved through three is a very key number. Three

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Speaker 7: is the most important number in all of football betting

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Speaker 7: because more games end on a differential of three than

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Speaker 7: any other number, like twenty four to twenty one, twenty

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Speaker 7: seven to twenty four. So you want to make sure

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Speaker 7: you're on the right side of three when a game

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Speaker 7: is dancing around that key number.

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Speaker 2: So, oh is it important? Because I just picture it

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Speaker 2: like TMZ or Harvey Elevan's got people everywhere he has,

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00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 2: you know, he's like given a valet a few bucks

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Speaker 2: here to always watch. He's got a nurse somewhere. So

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Speaker 2: I pictured like they're inside people not doing anything nefarious,

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Speaker 2: but are just in the know that you can call

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Speaker 2: and be like, hey, you're close to the situation because

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Speaker 2: they're not making the bets, but they're just trying to

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Speaker 2: set it up to where it basically it's even on

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Speaker 2: both sides. So theoretically they would just get the big

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Speaker 2: the betting money, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 7: The Jews if you look ideally for a lot of

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Speaker 7: these places. If you could hang a number at seven

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Speaker 7: and a half and take a million dollars on the

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00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 7: favorite and a million dollars on the dog, you take

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Speaker 7: your ten percent, which is one hundred k, and you

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Speaker 7: walk away risk free. That's a great spot. Some books

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Speaker 7: like to take a position. They might offer a different

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Speaker 7: price than everyone else, and they'll say, look, if you

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Speaker 7: like this side, come bet it here. We'll give you

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Speaker 7: the best price because we believe it's going to go

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Speaker 7: the other way. But it's the professionals that are the

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Speaker 7: ones that have ties to you know, perhaps teams, trainers,

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Speaker 7: doc guys of that nature are very valuable in terms

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Speaker 7: of whether or not a guy is gonna play, or

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Speaker 7: if he is going to play, how healthy he's actually

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Speaker 7: gonna be.

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Speaker 2: I know a guy in college ended up being a

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Speaker 2: weather man, I guess a meteorologist, and people will get

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Speaker 2: so mad at him when he wouldn't be right about

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Speaker 2: the weather. And he's like, listen, it's not an exact

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Speaker 2: I can't tell you exactly what's going to happen, but

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Speaker 2: I can give you based on all the indicators, all

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Speaker 2: the knowledge, all the so I would imagine here you

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Speaker 2: are and now it's ESPN bet Live. You guys have

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Speaker 2: changed in like five or six days ago. Guys changed it, right,

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Speaker 2: like rebranded it.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, we launched the book. Yeah on Tuesday, So ESPN

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00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 7: bet now you can go to the app and you

1218
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Speaker 7: can make bets. The TV show rebranded last Friday. It

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Speaker 7: went from ES it went from Daily Wager to ESPN

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Speaker 7: bet Live. So that's all rolling out this month. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I love Daily Wager, but now it's ESPN bet Live.

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Speaker 2: So to make sure audience knows that's that. But are

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Speaker 2: people ever mad at you if you're like, I feel

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Speaker 2: pretty good about this game and then maybe it doesn't

1225
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 2: happen like you think. Are your buddies like Joe that

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00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 2: you're this freaking specialist?

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Speaker 7: Oh oh, are you kidding me? First of all, if

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Speaker 7: you get it right general, everyone goes, well, yeah, of

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00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 7: course you got it right. I knew that too. If

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Speaker 7: you get it wrong, that's where it's all on you.

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Speaker 7: Last night, it's a perfect example. Maction college football really

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Speaker 7: liked Western Michigan plus the four and a half. They

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Speaker 7: lost twenty four to nothing. Terrible result, and you wake

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Speaker 7: up and the mentions let you know it. The thing is,

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Speaker 7: what are you gonna do. Are you gonna dwell in that?

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00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 7: Are you gonna let that stuff bother you? No? You

1237
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 7: got to sit there and realize, Look what went wrong

1238
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 7: with this game. Was it my process that was flawed?

1239
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 7: Or did I have a good process? Did I get

1240
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Speaker 7: a good number and I just ended up getting a

1241
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 7: bad result? You work through it, You constantly strive to

1242
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 7: get better with it. You got to understand you're not

1243
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 7: gonna go one hundred percent. That's the one thing a

1244
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 7: lot of people they might see you're making six picks,

1245
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 7: they jump on one of them, it loses, they get mad.

1246
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 7: But if you went four and two, what are you

1247
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 7: supposed to do there?

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Speaker 1: Right?

1249
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:49,920
Speaker 7: Like, long term, you're just trying to focus on getting

1250
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 7: the best numbers and putting yourself in the best possible

1251
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 7: position to win.

1252
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Speaker 2: So here's what I'll do. If I'm gonna a losing streak,

1253
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 2: and that happens from time to time, I'll be honest

1254
00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 2: with you. I will bet but a heavy just to

1255
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Speaker 2: break the streak. I will bet a heavy favorite money line,

1256
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 2: and I really won't make much money, but I'll be

1257
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Speaker 2: able to flip that momentum. In my mind, right, I

1258
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 2: believe this is a momentum based sport betting. Yes. And

1259
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Speaker 2: so the problem is I did this this last week

1260
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Speaker 2: where I bet Buffalo. I bet pretty heavy on Buffalo

1261
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Speaker 2: just to win, just to win, cause they were the

1262
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Speaker 2: heavy favorite. They freaking lost. When that garbage happens there,

1263
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Speaker 2: it makes me not want to bet for a whole

1264
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Speaker 2: other Like six hours.

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Speaker 7: Had you thought so when you're looking for the old slumpbuster,

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Speaker 7: it's only gonna be a favorite, right, You're just gonna

1267
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Speaker 7: play the money line favor.

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Speaker 2: I'm just trying to get a W. I've had so

1269
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Speaker 2: many l's. I just need a W. And that's what

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Speaker 2: I was doing with Buffalo this past week. And I

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Speaker 2: was like, you know what, because I was like, I'll

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Speaker 2: put a hundred on it, and then I'm like, you

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Speaker 2: screw it, the Buffalo's gonna win that. I'm also put

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Speaker 2: way more up so I can at least make a

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Speaker 2: little bit. Oh my god, what an.

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Speaker 7: Ugly, stupid game.

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Speaker 2: They end up firing the offensive coordinator Dorsey afterward, But

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Speaker 2: that to me was a sure bet. There's no such

1279
01:00:57,920 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 2: thing as a sure bet. You have any sure bets

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Speaker 2: that you were so sure about that didn't work out

1281
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 2: for you?

1282
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean most recently. It's probably it might not

1283
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:06,440
Speaker 7: be the it's probably not the worst one, but it's

1284
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 7: the most recent one was Tyson Fury and Francis and Ganu.

1285
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 7: Right like Tyson Fury is supposed to be the biggest,

1286
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:16,440
Speaker 7: baddest boxer on the planet, Francis and gan who is

1287
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 7: not a boxer. My mindset is saying, well, I've got

1288
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:21,960
Speaker 7: a great boxer against a guy who doesn't box. I

1289
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 7: think the great boxer should win that fight. So I

1290
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 7: go out there and I'm not gonna lay, you know,

1291
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 7: minus eighteen hundred because it's boxing. One shot goes the

1292
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 7: wrong way and I'm gonna be in a tough spot

1293
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 7: like we're just talking about. But I did go heavy

1294
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:36,959
Speaker 7: on Fury to win that fight by a stoppage. Whether

1295
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 7: it's Kotko or DQ, that's a prop you can play.

1296
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 7: So I end up betting that he gets knocked on

1297
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 7: his ass early in that in that fight, and then

1298
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 7: you can tell very quickly he didn't take it seriously

1299
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 7: and he wasn't in great shape, and I just watched

1300
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 7: that money go bye bye. So I thought that knockout

1301
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 7: was as close to a shirt thing as you're gonna find,

1302
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 7: and it was anything but.

1303
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 2: And that was a decision, right, you know the decision.

1304
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 7: He wont a very tight this yeah contested decision.

1305
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, it looked like to me lost the fight, But

1306
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:07,440
Speaker 2: I get it. Listen, boxing protects their jewels for sure, Eddie.

1307
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:10,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, so Joe, So do you hear about these sharks

1308
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 3: that live in Vegas? Is it possible to have a

1309
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 3: long career as a gambling shark or is it just

1310
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 3: short lived?

1311
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 7: Yeah? No, there's I moved there in twenty eleven. I

1312
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 7: was living in Allentown, Pennsylvania, which is where I'm from,

1313
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 7: and I was writing for a football website and I

1314
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 7: wanted to write about sports betting. I had been doing it.

1315
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 7: I always love betting. I didn't know anything about it

1316
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 7: anything at all. So I decided, you know what, I'm

1317
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 7: packing up. I had no life, no girlfriend, nothing, I'm

1318
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 7: living at home. I had virtually no money. I had

1319
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 7: a two thousand dollars credit card that was maxed out.

1320
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 7: I said, I'm going to move to Vegas. I'm going

1321
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 7: to get to know all the bookmakers in town. I'm

1322
01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 7: going to get to know all the professional betters in town.

1323
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 7: I'm going to learn how this works. And one day.

1324
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 7: If it gets legalized, maybe I'll have a shot at

1325
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 7: working for a bigger network. A lot of things happen

1326
01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 7: in between, but it eventually does lead to that. But

1327
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 7: the point is when I out there, I was meeting

1328
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:03,960
Speaker 7: as many of these guys as I possibly could. Some

1329
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:06,440
Speaker 7: of them you can obviously find on Twitter social media.

1330
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 7: They're also out there promoting their stuff. They're making money

1331
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 7: that way. Some of them love to operate in the shadows.

1332
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:14,480
Speaker 7: But the thing is they do this for a living.

1333
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 7: I was in a meeting once. I don't think they

1334
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 7: do it anymore, but it was called the Tuesday Meeting.

1335
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 7: During football season, every Tuesday, at a specific restaurant, fifteen

1336
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 7: guys in the industry would get together and they'd go

1337
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 7: around the table for three hours talking about every college

1338
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:31,480
Speaker 7: football game and every pro football game, and they'd be

1339
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 7: sharing notes. And I remember a guy in that meeting

1340
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 7: when it was done, going to the airport, getting on

1341
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:40,800
Speaker 7: a plane flying an hour and a half north to Reno,

1342
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 7: specifically to bet one game. Because the point spread at

1343
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:48,280
Speaker 7: a sportsbook in Reno was half a point better than

1344
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 7: any sports book in Vegas, it was worth it to

1345
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 7: him to get on a plane fly to Reno and

1346
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 7: bet up there for that half point. That's the type

1347
01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 7: of mindset and discipline you have to have if you're

1348
01:03:58,520 --> 01:03:59,440
Speaker 7: gonna win long term.

1349
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 2: That's crazy. Yeah, before social media and the ability to

1350
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 2: sell or have people subscribe to you, I think it'd

1351
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 2: be really hard to make money because you're only actually

1352
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 2: making money by well betting or beating people up.

1353
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:16,520
Speaker 7: Ah with the betting. It's there's a couple things that

1354
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:18,960
Speaker 7: come into it. There are guys that are really good

1355
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 7: at understanding that the point spreads are off. Whether it's

1356
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 7: golf is becoming very popular, whether it's football point spreads,

1357
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:31,240
Speaker 7: hockey money lines, whatever it may be. There are guys

1358
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 7: that are really good with their models in terms of

1359
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 7: finding that the numbers that are off. The thing is

1360
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 7: they also need outs and they need to be able

1361
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 7: to get down large amounts of money, and that's a

1362
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:44,640
Speaker 7: game within a game. You know a lot of these guys.

1363
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 7: Once you get good at this, sports books will either

1364
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 7: ban you or limit you. Not all of them, but

1365
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 7: a lot of sports books will say, you know what,

1366
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 7: you're too good for us. We don't want you playing here.

1367
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 7: It's like guys that know how to count cards as

1368
01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 7: soon as a casino understands you're gonna beat them at blackjack,

1369
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 7: They're going to ask to leave, They're not gonna let

1370
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:03,439
Speaker 7: you play, so you need to be able to get

1371
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 7: that action down. Billy Walters, who just released a book,

1372
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:09,439
Speaker 7: one of the most famous sports betters of all time.

1373
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 7: There was a whole network of beards, individuals who would

1374
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 7: never be looked at or second guest placing a two

1375
01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:19,640
Speaker 7: hundred and fifty thousand dollars wager because they might be

1376
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 7: a celebrity, they might be a famous movie star, something

1377
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 7: of that nature. So the sportsbooks would allow it. Billy

1378
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 7: would partner with these individuals. You know, there's a book,

1379
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:30,680
Speaker 7: Michael Koenik wrote the book, The Smart Money. It's basically

1380
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 7: about that, and there are rumors as to who some

1381
01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 7: of the individuals were, but Hollywood stars that would come

1382
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:38,240
Speaker 7: in that befriended Billy and they would place bets on

1383
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:41,080
Speaker 7: his behalf because he wasn't allowed to he was too good.

1384
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:43,400
Speaker 7: But he needed to get, you know, f one hundred

1385
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 7: thousand dollars down, so he'd used people like that.

1386
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:48,480
Speaker 2: That's crazy. Final two questions for Joe, which, by the way,

1387
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:50,840
Speaker 2: ESPN bet Live, that's what it's called now. If you

1388
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 2: guys used to watch Daily Wager, which I did, it's

1389
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:56,560
Speaker 2: now ESPN bet Live. Also Carlon and Joe on ESPN

1390
01:05:56,640 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 2: Radio Midday. Okay, final two questions. If someone like Taylor

1391
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 2: Swift or specifically Taylor is at a game, and I

1392
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:05,080
Speaker 2: know there probably aren't a lot of betters who are

1393
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 2: Taylor fans, I don't think that vin diagram is a

1394
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:09,240
Speaker 2: massive circle coverage.

1395
01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:10,080
Speaker 7: Could that ever.

1396
01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 2: Change a line though, because everybody's like, let's go bet

1397
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:13,640
Speaker 2: for Taylor. Where it would actually move it a half

1398
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 2: point or a point.

1399
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 7: Points spreads highly unlikely. Props, Yes, and we've seen this

1400
01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:24,520
Speaker 7: with Travis Kelce. Props. His number says receiving your yardage total.

1401
01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 7: I mean, don't quote me on this, but it might

1402
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:27,920
Speaker 7: be in the neighborhood of seventy four and a half

1403
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:30,560
Speaker 7: something like that for a specific game. Once you start

1404
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:33,600
Speaker 7: hearing that Taylor Swift might be there, you'll see that

1405
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:36,439
Speaker 7: number generally go up. Whether it's Travis Kelce to score

1406
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:40,400
Speaker 7: a touchdown, over receptions, over receiving arts, all the positive stuff.

1407
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:42,400
Speaker 7: You won't see it going the negative. You won't see

1408
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 7: it going the other way. You'll see it going up

1409
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 7: for a couple of reasons. Number one, I think sports

1410
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 7: books know they're going to take more Kelsey money, so

1411
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:51,000
Speaker 7: they might try to get ahead of it, or they

1412
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:52,960
Speaker 7: do end up taking a lot of money and they

1413
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:55,280
Speaker 7: have to adjust as a result. But she's not I

1414
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 7: haven't seen her effect the point spread, but I have

1415
01:06:57,480 --> 01:06:58,560
Speaker 7: seen her effect props.

1416
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 2: Hilarious. It's just funny, and I would think, based on

1417
01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 2: he really wants it, So let's go, let's bet the yards.

1418
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:07,640
Speaker 2: Final question for you, Joe, I.

1419
01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 7: Mean, imagine, imagine if the Chiefs get to the Super

1420
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 7: Bowl and they're still dating and she's there. Like we

1421
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:15,560
Speaker 7: already get thousands of prop bets, the amount of Taylor

1422
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:18,960
Speaker 7: Swift prop bets will have specifically pertaining to her. I

1423
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:20,760
Speaker 7: can't even imagine. It'll be outrageous.

1424
01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:23,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, that'll be annoying and awesome at the same time.

1425
01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:27,600
Speaker 2: Final question. I know you're a big ten guy, Penn

1426
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 2: State guy, but I do want to talk about Michigan

1427
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:33,480
Speaker 2: briefly in that in just the betting space. So Harbaugh

1428
01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:35,600
Speaker 2: is not able to be on the sidelines obviously and

1429
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:38,120
Speaker 2: be at these games. He can be there for practice.

1430
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:41,840
Speaker 2: First of all, does that affect the line Secondly, do

1431
01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:43,840
Speaker 2: they ever go like, well, they're probably really mad, so

1432
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:46,640
Speaker 2: let's make the line even bigger, like emotional points spread.

1433
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:49,960
Speaker 7: That'll affect the public betters, I think more than it'll

1434
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:52,720
Speaker 7: affect the sports books. So sportsbooks have their number and

1435
01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:53,520
Speaker 7: then they adjust.

1436
01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:53,760
Speaker 2: You know.

1437
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:56,240
Speaker 7: The Penn State game came out somewhere around five. They

1438
01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:58,600
Speaker 7: were a five point favorite at Penn State. It went

1439
01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:01,920
Speaker 7: down to four and a half four, but that was

1440
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:04,479
Speaker 7: more short money coming in because they like Penn State

1441
01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 7: to begin with. It wasn't so much the Harba all

1442
01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:10,040
Speaker 7: news because there were two factors working at play there

1443
01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:13,040
Speaker 7: that favored Michigan. Number one, Harball was there all week

1444
01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 7: to help install the game plan, so it's not as

1445
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:17,640
Speaker 7: if he wasn't around the team. And number two, he

1446
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:19,960
Speaker 7: had a self and post suspension the first three games

1447
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:22,760
Speaker 7: of the season, so they've already been through this. I mean,

1448
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:25,320
Speaker 7: if there was ever a team that was uniquely qualified

1449
01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:27,720
Speaker 7: to handle playing a game without their coach, it was

1450
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:29,640
Speaker 7: them because they had done that three times at the

1451
01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:32,240
Speaker 7: beginning of the season. So as it moves forward, I

1452
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:34,400
Speaker 7: think now that they've proven it against Penn State, you

1453
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:37,400
Speaker 7: won't see it affect them in Maryland. The Ohio State

1454
01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:39,559
Speaker 7: game is interesting. We have a look aheadline right now,

1455
01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:42,720
Speaker 7: Michigan minus five and a half against Ohio State. Mark

1456
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:45,240
Speaker 7: that down and then let's see what happens a week

1457
01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:47,320
Speaker 7: from now as the betters get involved in that.

1458
01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:49,920
Speaker 2: But they're never like they're extra mad. Let's make it

1459
01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:52,760
Speaker 2: a little they're so upset.

1460
01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:55,880
Speaker 7: That affected petters, Like like I, as a Penn State grad,

1461
01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:57,960
Speaker 7: knew Penn State was not going to win that game.

1462
01:08:58,000 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 7: They just don't win big games. They don't beat all

1463
01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:03,160
Speaker 7: they don't beat Michigan. That's just the jaded Nitney lion

1464
01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:05,439
Speaker 7: in me, and that's my angle on that game. But

1465
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:09,120
Speaker 7: when you saw that plane land and all the kids

1466
01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:11,640
Speaker 7: on that team started tweeting the word bet yeah, and

1467
01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 7: Tom Brady Bettett, you know that, it's galvanized them. So

1468
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 7: I don't think the books have taken that into account,

1469
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:19,000
Speaker 7: but I think a lot of betters like betting Michigan

1470
01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:19,880
Speaker 7: because of that.

1471
01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:23,320
Speaker 2: You guys followed Joe at Joe Fortenbaugh on Twitter. Hey

1472
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:26,000
Speaker 2: love what you do. You're your great personality. I don't

1473
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 2: know what you off camera, but you're the best on

1474
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:32,280
Speaker 2: So congratulations and everything. At ESPN bet Live in ESPN

1475
01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:33,559
Speaker 2: bet and thank you for the time. Joe.

1476
01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:36,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, I appreciate you guys having me. Thanks so much, all.

1477
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:41,640
Speaker 2: Right, Joe, see you buddy, all right, thanks to Joe

1478
01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:45,599
Speaker 2: Fordenball appreciate that. Let's talk about some odds and stuff

1479
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:50,479
Speaker 2: real quick, guys. MVP odds ready, yep, do you know them? Ati?

1480
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:53,479
Speaker 3: No, Who do you think is the favorite MVP in

1481
01:09:53,520 --> 01:10:06,040
Speaker 3: the NFL? The favorite would be probably Jalen Hurts. You're right, okay, Nice.

1482
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:07,920
Speaker 2: I did not. I wouldn't have gone Jalen Hurts. I

1483
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:11,200
Speaker 2: don't went Mahomes again. Just prove me, prove otherwise. First,

1484
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:15,479
Speaker 2: but it's Hurts Boom, Mahomes, second, Lamar third, two of four,

1485
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:18,040
Speaker 2: Borough five. That's gonna drop significantly. Now you didn't put

1486
01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:19,720
Speaker 2: that on that shut out about Dak.

1487
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:21,360
Speaker 3: Now just move him up to that spot because I mean,

1488
01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:23,759
Speaker 3: you're Christian McCaffrey plus eighteen hundred?

1489
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:27,080
Speaker 2: Which team wins? So where's that he didn't make the touchdowns?

1490
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:30,200
Speaker 2: Which team wins the Super Bowl? Odds? Eddie?

1491
01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:32,519
Speaker 3: Who is the favorite the favorite to win the Super Bowl?

1492
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:38,800
Speaker 2: Let's go Eagles. Eagles are not the forty nine Ers

1493
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:40,800
Speaker 2: and the Chiefs are both plus five hundred. Oh wow.

1494
01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 2: The Eagles are plus five fifty, so their second. The

1495
01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:46,679
Speaker 2: Dolphins and Ravens come in third. The Lions and Cowboys

1496
01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:49,559
Speaker 2: of plus one thousand like that that would be two

1497
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:53,880
Speaker 2: three so six. That's good money. Cinnati plus fifteen hundred,

1498
01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:57,560
Speaker 2: that's gonna drop significantly, and the Jaguars plus two thousand.

1499
01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:01,560
Speaker 2: There you go. Patriots are around there. We didn't have

1500
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:02,639
Speaker 2: enough room for all the zeros.

1501
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:07,760
Speaker 3: It's a million dollars to one. That's crazy. I mean,

1502
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:08,679
Speaker 3: I haven't seen the Browns.

1503
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:10,880
Speaker 2: What happened since Deshan you know, his shoulders out for

1504
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:14,920
Speaker 2: the year. Like, what a terrible, terrible, terrible decision they made.

1505
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:18,519
Speaker 6: And you see they're starting a DTR not PJ.

1506
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:23,400
Speaker 2: Walker, Yeah, TR down to what do you think that means?

1507
01:11:23,439 --> 01:11:29,400
Speaker 2: Eddie down to run? D TF? Is that where that's

1508
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:30,640
Speaker 2: going from? Who do you think? Who do you think

1509
01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:35,599
Speaker 2: d TR is? Give him Give them the T, Kevin Thompson,

1510
01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:42,840
Speaker 2: Thompson as a quarterback, Give him the D. Kevin Dorian, Oh,

1511
01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:45,240
Speaker 2: I don't know who is that. Give him the R.

1512
01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:49,639
Speaker 2: Kevin Robinson. I don't know my dad, all the other

1513
01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:56,000
Speaker 2: Thompson Robinson been there all day last night I was

1514
01:11:56,040 --> 01:12:00,000
Speaker 2: watching the Bengals and Ravens and bet anything on the game,

1515
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:02,080
Speaker 2: watching shows my wife. I don't need to bet just

1516
01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:04,120
Speaker 2: for the sake of betting. But so I stopped watching

1517
01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:06,200
Speaker 2: the games and then I saw that it was going

1518
01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:09,719
Speaker 2: into halftime. I did not see Burrow leave the game.

1519
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:13,639
Speaker 2: I changed it before he changed it, like I changed

1520
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:17,040
Speaker 2: a channel. I switched off of Amazon, and we started

1521
01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:21,200
Speaker 2: watching some show called Spy Best Friend or something I

1522
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:24,559
Speaker 2: don't know, and I look over and the Bengals are

1523
01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:27,880
Speaker 2: plus fourteen and a half at halftime, and they're only

1524
01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:30,000
Speaker 2: down fourteen points, and I'm like, wait, how in the world.

1525
01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:32,719
Speaker 2: So I'm like, oh, I caught it at the right time.

1526
01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:34,320
Speaker 2: Burrow's not gonna lose by this many points.

1527
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 3: You're like, I'm getting a deal.

1528
01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 2: Let's go. So I throw a thousand dollars on Cincinnati

1529
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:41,880
Speaker 2: with the points and I'm like, let's go. And then

1530
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:43,519
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, if I feel like they're going to

1531
01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 2: score these points, they're easily going to cover the fifty

1532
01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 2: and a half. So I'm like, let's go. I'm all in.

1533
01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:53,920
Speaker 2: I'm putting another thousand bucks on the over. We finished

1534
01:12:53,960 --> 01:12:56,519
Speaker 2: the show, I turn it on it ain't Joel Burrow.

1535
01:12:57,000 --> 01:13:01,160
Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh my god, what did I do?

1536
01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:05,439
Speaker 2: And so I text Eddy and I'm like, I'm done.

1537
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:07,960
Speaker 2: You said I'm an idiot. I didn't even look. I

1538
01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:11,520
Speaker 2: blindly jumped on because I thought Burrow was the quarterback

1539
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:14,880
Speaker 2: and I would have lost both bets had they not

1540
01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:18,640
Speaker 2: had a miraculous junk touchdown at the very end that

1541
01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:22,200
Speaker 2: allowed me to cover and then allowed me to hit

1542
01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:25,559
Speaker 2: the over. So I won both thousand dollar bets.

1543
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:29,160
Speaker 3: It's crazy. All on the last drive. This a junk drive.

1544
01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:34,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, a meaningless like a back door junk drive, garbage.

1545
01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:39,280
Speaker 2: Two thousand dollars. That's crazy, dude, it's pretty good. I'm like,

1546
01:13:40,120 --> 01:13:41,720
Speaker 2: it never works out for me that way. And you

1547
01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:44,160
Speaker 2: never bet for the sake of betting. No, it was

1548
01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:48,439
Speaker 2: just random. I just saw I thought, well, these are

1549
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:49,960
Speaker 2: just great. Let me jump on real quick because Burrow.

1550
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:51,840
Speaker 2: There's no way Burrow is gonna lose. Then I then

1551
01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:53,840
Speaker 2: I go, oh, that's why I am, because he's not

1552
01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:57,160
Speaker 2: even in the game. Of a couple other things. I

1553
01:13:57,200 --> 01:14:02,559
Speaker 2: have one team in myminator that's left. There were ten

1554
01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:05,320
Speaker 2: thousand entries. It's like a million dollar prize. They're only

1555
01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:07,719
Speaker 2: eight hundred and forty two left right now. Wow, started

1556
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:10,400
Speaker 2: with ten thousand, over ten thousand. Now they're eight hundred

1557
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:16,920
Speaker 2: and forty two left. So I have five favorites this

1558
01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:18,760
Speaker 2: week that I can pick from that I haven't used.

1559
01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:22,120
Speaker 2: There are a bunch of underdogs as well. But of

1560
01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:25,960
Speaker 2: the favorites, I can have Washington, who's playing the Giants,

1561
01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:33,920
Speaker 2: I haven't used them yet, Detroit or I find I'm on

1562
01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:36,040
Speaker 2: the list here, Detroit who's playing Chicago. Nine and a

1563
01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:40,599
Speaker 2: half point favorites, Houston, which we talked about earlier. No,

1564
01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:45,160
Speaker 2: the Chargers, which god dang, I don't think they I

1565
01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:49,680
Speaker 2: never have many Packers, or Denver, which they're better, but

1566
01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:53,240
Speaker 2: they're playing Minnesota, right So those are the five favorites,

1567
01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:54,599
Speaker 2: like there are all the other games, all the other

1568
01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:56,200
Speaker 2: teams because also on my list that I could pick

1569
01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:59,200
Speaker 2: any time if I stay live, the Rams, Minnesota, Philadelphia,

1570
01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:01,360
Speaker 2: Green Bay Sincin Now which I didn't pick them now

1571
01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:07,719
Speaker 2: they're dead, Arizona, Pittsburgh, Tennessee, the Jets, Chicago, Carolina, Tampa,

1572
01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:08,519
Speaker 2: Bay Vegas.

1573
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:09,679
Speaker 3: You saved Philly, huh?

1574
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:12,120
Speaker 2: I still have Philly left. Yeah, So I'm not gonna

1575
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:14,320
Speaker 2: pick them this week though, because Philly is they're a

1576
01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:16,360
Speaker 2: dog of the Chiefs and they're playing the Chiefs and

1577
01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:21,519
Speaker 2: I just yeah, so who would you take Lions?

1578
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:27,080
Speaker 4: Really yeah against the Bears, but Justin Field is back. Yeah,

1579
01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:29,519
Speaker 4: but still they just gotta win, right, not cover, just win, just.

1580
01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:33,080
Speaker 2: Win, Yeah, just win, just win, baby Eddie. Commanders.

1581
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:36,720
Speaker 3: I think that's what I'm taking Commanders because against the Giants.

1582
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:39,040
Speaker 3: They're against the Giants, and Commanders, I mean, you don't

1583
01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:41,439
Speaker 3: know how they're gonna I don't know, and they're all

1584
01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:43,000
Speaker 3: all season they're just like all no.

1585
01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:44,559
Speaker 2: But it's a giant I know.

1586
01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:47,400
Speaker 3: But this this week I can say I know, got.

1587
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:50,760
Speaker 2: It, got it all right. Let's let's walk through them

1588
01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:55,400
Speaker 2: real quick. Weekend preview and c double A. Michigan at Maryland.

1589
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:58,120
Speaker 2: We feel like Michigan's gonna run with that one. Yeah,

1590
01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:01,719
Speaker 2: we won't do spread. Chattanooga at Alabama, that's an easy

1591
01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:04,280
Speaker 2: game for Alabama. I don't know, might pull going on.

1592
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:07,080
Speaker 2: The Louisville Miami game is interesting. Miami is a one

1593
01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:11,160
Speaker 2: point favorite. Louisville's a top ten team, super interesting. I

1594
01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:12,880
Speaker 2: haven't seen him after that Notre Dame game, so I

1595
01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:15,439
Speaker 2: don't know. But just they're a top ten team. Yeah,

1596
01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:19,479
Speaker 2: and they're a point underdog. Yeah, the team with four

1597
01:16:19,720 --> 01:16:20,720
Speaker 2: team Yeah.

1598
01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:22,880
Speaker 3: And but we've talked about this, like when when the

1599
01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:25,479
Speaker 3: odds are like that, like, yes, they know something's up.

1600
01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:28,759
Speaker 2: Florida State playing North Alabama, there'll be nothing there. Georgia

1601
01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:30,720
Speaker 2: and Tennessee is an interesting game that might be the

1602
01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:32,880
Speaker 2: one of the games of the week here, although I

1603
01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:35,680
Speaker 2: think that Georgia will probably hand elite put it to them.

1604
01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:37,920
Speaker 2: But Tennessee got embarrassed last week. Yeah, so that would

1605
01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:39,400
Speaker 2: be a reason. I think they could come out. They're

1606
01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:43,519
Speaker 2: gonna get mad. Maybe you see drink witz uh half

1607
01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:46,559
Speaker 2: after the game, shaking hands. Yeah, like we're staying on business. Yeah.

1608
01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:48,960
Speaker 2: I liked it. I wouldn't have liked it as my team,

1609
01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:52,320
Speaker 2: but I liked it. It's fun. Yeah, Ohio State's gonna

1610
01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:54,800
Speaker 2: what Minnesota Oregan's gonna whoop bearers on a state that's

1611
01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:56,679
Speaker 2: not a game. The Washington Oregon State game is probably

1612
01:16:56,720 --> 01:16:58,719
Speaker 2: the other contender for the game of the week, which

1613
01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:00,960
Speaker 2: I think right now it looks like it's two point five.

1614
01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:03,280
Speaker 2: I think Washington runs with it. I'm taking Washington, even

1615
01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:06,200
Speaker 2: though there's supposedly a dog Texas Iowa State, Texas should

1616
01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:08,760
Speaker 2: win that. Missouri and Florida, that's one of those games

1617
01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:12,040
Speaker 2: that I could definitely see Florida winning, even though they're

1618
01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:12,479
Speaker 2: not that good.

1619
01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:15,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm surprised Missouri's eleven point favorites. Now, it's like

1620
01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:16,000
Speaker 4: everyone's on that train.

1621
01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:18,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then Kansas State and Kansas is a good game.

1622
01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:20,320
Speaker 2: They're both top twenty five teams. They're in Kansas. I

1623
01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:24,400
Speaker 2: feel like Kansas State hopefully win's that. Let's go baby

1624
01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 2: and covers Ema. Thank you NFL preview. You guys want

1625
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:29,720
Speaker 2: to pick the games, let me did last time real quick?

1626
01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:32,719
Speaker 2: All right? Yeah, we talked about the losing the one. Yeah,

1627
01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:35,280
Speaker 2: last bib did we paid up? He paid up? Last person?

1628
01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:37,200
Speaker 2: Who are finished? Last? Gotta pay an extra ten dollars?

1629
01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:43,639
Speaker 2: Good to go Steelers and Browns. I go first. God,

1630
01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:47,360
Speaker 2: the Steelers suck and they keep winning. I'm gonna even

1631
01:17:47,439 --> 01:17:49,960
Speaker 2: the Browns are the favorite. That's crazy. I'm still gonna

1632
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:50,680
Speaker 2: go with the Steelers.

1633
01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:54,320
Speaker 3: Steelers terrible tell Steelers, Yep, Steelers, Okay.

1634
01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:56,640
Speaker 2: So no, nothing lost the man, all right? Bears and

1635
01:17:56,720 --> 01:18:02,360
Speaker 2: Lions read h I'm gonna go Lions. Lions on Lions.

1636
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:05,400
Speaker 3: We just picked the same team, so nobody loses.

1637
01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:06,040
Speaker 2: I like it.

1638
01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:09,960
Speaker 3: I'll go with the Bears, oh, even though they're big,

1639
01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:11,320
Speaker 3: dog getting cute.

1640
01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:19,520
Speaker 2: I hear you. Chargers and Packers Eddie, Oh gosh.

1641
01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:21,080
Speaker 3: I don't know why I keep believing in Jordan Love.

1642
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:23,599
Speaker 3: But give me the Chargers. I'm done with that. Oh

1643
01:18:23,640 --> 01:18:25,640
Speaker 3: you're done with it? Okay, Packers for me?

1644
01:18:25,800 --> 01:18:36,720
Speaker 2: Chargers Packers, Raiders and Dolphins Yahn, Dolphins read Dolphins, Eddie, Dolphins.

1645
01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:40,479
Speaker 2: Giants and commanders want commanders, commanders come in. Everybody on

1646
01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:44,839
Speaker 2: that one. Okay, Cowboys and Panthers, anybody not a cowboy.

1647
01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:46,639
Speaker 2: We're all staying on that one.

1648
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 3: I mean we're all fans now, so Titans and Jaguars,

1649
01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:52,719
Speaker 3: Jags for meag all Jags Yep.

1650
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:54,679
Speaker 2: Okay, we'll see. There's only a few games you gotta

1651
01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:57,000
Speaker 2: keep track of here. Yeah, I know. Bucks and forty

1652
01:18:57,080 --> 01:19:02,840
Speaker 2: nine Ers read. I'm gonna go forty nine Ers. Niners. Yeah.

1653
01:19:02,439 --> 01:19:05,360
Speaker 2: J What are you doing? Oh man, you're a bigger

1654
01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:16,639
Speaker 2: guy though. The Jets and Bills. Anybody going Jets? No, Hey,

1655
01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:18,799
Speaker 2: I'll go Jets. Okay, I'm going Bill gonna.

1656
01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:21,000
Speaker 6: Be cute, I'll go I'll go Jets.

1657
01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:23,920
Speaker 2: Okay, let's go. Let's go Seahawks and Rams Seahawks at

1658
01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:27,479
Speaker 2: one point, favorite Seahawks and Rams. I're going Seahawks. That

1659
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:30,080
Speaker 2: Stafford's back though, Yeah, I know where are they playing

1660
01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:33,120
Speaker 2: La Ram? There'll be more Seahawks fans.

1661
01:19:33,280 --> 01:19:33,519
Speaker 1: I know.

1662
01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:36,080
Speaker 2: I'm Seahawks, Rams, Eddie.

1663
01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:37,960
Speaker 3: Let's go Seahawks.

1664
01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:41,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, give me Seahawks. And then finally Vikings and Broncos.

1665
01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:48,080
Speaker 2: Josh Dobbs, Baby, Yeah, Vikings, Viking, Vikings, Vikings. I'll go

1666
01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:49,640
Speaker 2: Bikings too. It's only a few games to keep up

1667
01:19:49,640 --> 01:19:54,960
Speaker 2: with there, Okay? Cool? And our final segment, we call

1668
01:19:55,000 --> 01:20:00,320
Speaker 2: this by the numbers. Number one the jersey number of Tua, who,

1669
01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:01,920
Speaker 2: by the way, debut a new hairstyle this week. Have

1670
01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:05,120
Speaker 2: you seen it? He's rocking the braids? Oh? People say

1671
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:06,920
Speaker 2: it looks like Drake. I thought to myself, what if

1672
01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:09,400
Speaker 2: I come back after Thanksgiving in my hair is in braids?

1673
01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:12,840
Speaker 2: Think please do that? I would love that. Here you go.

1674
01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:16,160
Speaker 2: Number two touchdown score by Gus Edwards last night as

1675
01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:18,560
Speaker 2: the Ravens beat the Bengals, Are they the AFC favorite?

1676
01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:22,479
Speaker 2: In your mind? I still go? Kansas City? Is you

1677
01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:24,040
Speaker 2: got to be the man? You gotta beat the man.

1678
01:20:25,400 --> 01:20:27,360
Speaker 2: But I do think they can win it. But I

1679
01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:29,479
Speaker 2: don't think they're the favorite. But they're running three running

1680
01:20:29,479 --> 01:20:32,800
Speaker 2: backs now Baltimore is, yeah, which is pretty Gus Dwars

1681
01:20:32,880 --> 01:20:36,519
Speaker 2: is basically the goal line back. But are they the favorite?

1682
01:20:36,520 --> 01:20:39,120
Speaker 2: Anybody think that Baltimore is the favorite in their mind? Okay,

1683
01:20:39,160 --> 01:20:42,439
Speaker 2: are they close? Yeah? Yeah, they're right there. Number three

1684
01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:44,760
Speaker 2: games that Jim Harball will officially be suspended from the

1685
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:47,799
Speaker 2: sideline of Michigan because he's accepted as punishment, he'll miss

1686
01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:50,439
Speaker 2: Maryland and Ohio State. But I also feel like he

1687
01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:53,640
Speaker 2: was involved in both doing it and the punishment, Like

1688
01:20:53,680 --> 01:20:55,200
Speaker 2: you got to kind of pick as punishment. It's like

1689
01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:56,800
Speaker 2: go pick your switch and you go pick it and

1690
01:20:56,840 --> 01:20:58,240
Speaker 2: you get what buy it. I feel like you got

1691
01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:01,080
Speaker 2: to pick a switch in that. The number four the

1692
01:21:01,160 --> 01:21:04,760
Speaker 2: current Saints seed. If the playoffs started today, they'd be

1693
01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:07,960
Speaker 2: a four seed in the playoffs. Wow. Five and five shocking.

1694
01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:14,320
Speaker 2: What's the Saints ceiling first round loss? Yeah, oh they're out,

1695
01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:16,960
Speaker 2: So your their ceiling is getting there? Getting there? Yeah? Yeah,

1696
01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:20,120
Speaker 2: I think their ceiling could be winning one game really well.

1697
01:21:20,160 --> 01:21:21,840
Speaker 6: The good thing is they will get it at home

1698
01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:23,040
Speaker 6: because they're gonna win the division.

1699
01:21:23,080 --> 01:21:25,599
Speaker 2: I agree. If they win the division, so I say

1700
01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:27,360
Speaker 2: they can win one game. So what's the ceiling, Eddie.

1701
01:21:27,400 --> 01:21:29,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you, guys. I think they get in,

1702
01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:30,439
Speaker 3: but they lose the first game.

1703
01:21:31,320 --> 01:21:33,519
Speaker 2: The number five the max number of games Arkansas can

1704
01:21:33,560 --> 01:21:37,240
Speaker 2: win if they win out, which sucks. I f IU

1705
01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:40,400
Speaker 2: this week and Mazoo after that question is well they

1706
01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:42,559
Speaker 2: have a new coach. I'm thinking no, now that they're

1707
01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:45,920
Speaker 2: not gonna fire them. This really my intel says he'll

1708
01:21:45,960 --> 01:21:48,760
Speaker 2: get another one more year, okay, and I'm good with that.

1709
01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:51,840
Speaker 2: It's not like they're signing him a new five year deal.

1710
01:21:52,160 --> 01:21:54,080
Speaker 2: I'm good with one. I'm fine with either way. I

1711
01:21:54,240 --> 01:21:56,120
Speaker 2: don't want to see him fired. Honestly, I think we

1712
01:21:56,120 --> 01:21:58,320
Speaker 2: need a little stability, even if it has not been

1713
01:21:58,360 --> 01:22:02,280
Speaker 2: fortunate fortunate for us last couple years. Is kJ a senior,

1714
01:22:02,760 --> 01:22:04,519
Speaker 2: he could play another year if he wanted to, Okay,

1715
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:06,320
Speaker 2: because of COVID, I don't know if he's going to,

1716
01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:09,760
Speaker 2: but I'm going to say now, I don't think they're

1717
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:11,280
Speaker 2: going to hire a new coach from what I'm hearing,

1718
01:22:11,479 --> 01:22:14,400
Speaker 2: but I heard differently earlier in the week. So the

1719
01:22:14,479 --> 01:22:18,080
Speaker 2: number six six months from now, the PGA Championship at Valhalla.

1720
01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:21,240
Speaker 3: We played there, we did, and they talked about that

1721
01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:22,200
Speaker 3: the whole time we were there.

1722
01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:25,400
Speaker 2: The number seven Texas ranking in the latest College Football Poll.

1723
01:22:26,080 --> 01:22:27,879
Speaker 2: Will this be their best chance to make the playoff

1724
01:22:28,160 --> 01:22:33,120
Speaker 2: since they're gonna head the SEC next year? I say yes, yes,

1725
01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:35,200
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think it's a lot harder next

1726
01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:37,479
Speaker 2: year for them. Sure. Big twelve is where you got

1727
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:39,639
Speaker 2: to be right now, be perfect, Beau. It's the hard

1728
01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:44,519
Speaker 2: our our team could win that. The bybone show, suit

1729
01:22:44,600 --> 01:22:46,800
Speaker 2: up and win the Big twelve. Number eight the number

1730
01:22:46,840 --> 01:22:49,000
Speaker 2: of losses the Patriots have heading into their bye week

1731
01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:51,479
Speaker 2: on a scale of one to eight. Eight being the hottest,

1732
01:22:51,479 --> 01:22:54,519
Speaker 2: How hottest Bill Belichick's seat right now? Kevinnar, the Patriots fan, go.

1733
01:22:54,640 --> 01:22:58,680
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with the six. It's hot, but it's

1734
01:22:58,680 --> 01:22:59,439
Speaker 4: still Bill Belichick.

1735
01:22:59,439 --> 01:23:02,360
Speaker 2: Everybody's act like he's already going to like Washington next year. Yeah,

1736
01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:04,599
Speaker 2: I go, I like Alex six. Yeah, you're the expert there.

1737
01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:07,439
Speaker 2: We'll go with that. Over under The number is nine

1738
01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:09,920
Speaker 2: for the amount of times Taylor will be shown during

1739
01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:14,120
Speaker 2: the Eagles at Chiefs. Ooh over over overnight. I'm gonna

1740
01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:16,400
Speaker 2: go under under nine. Yeah, I think she'll be mentioned

1741
01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:17,600
Speaker 2: a bunch, but I don't think she'll be shown. I

1742
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:19,559
Speaker 2: think she'd be shown probably like one and a half

1743
01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:22,400
Speaker 2: times a quarter. What did I read?

1744
01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:26,519
Speaker 3: I read that she that Oh, Kelsey's meeting her family

1745
01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:27,320
Speaker 3: now like parents?

1746
01:23:27,439 --> 01:23:30,040
Speaker 2: Yeah? Is that it? The parents are meeting their parents.

1747
01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:32,360
Speaker 3: Oh, the both parents are meeting each other.

1748
01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:34,800
Speaker 2: Hey, that's a big step. And then number ten the

1749
01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:37,040
Speaker 2: Jersey number of the best players in soccer. Who's the

1750
01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:39,400
Speaker 2: best wide receiver to wear number ten the last ten years?

1751
01:23:39,439 --> 01:23:45,240
Speaker 2: Tyreek Cooper Cupp or de Andre Hopkins Tyreek Hill? I

1752
01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:48,240
Speaker 2: want to say Tyreek, but DeAndre. Man, I'm gonna go

1753
01:23:48,280 --> 01:23:51,160
Speaker 2: Cooper Cup. I like it just from production. Sure when

1754
01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:54,200
Speaker 2: they won a Super Bowl with his production. So I'm

1755
01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:56,920
Speaker 2: gonna go with that. All right, there you go. Do

1756
01:23:56,960 --> 01:23:58,479
Speaker 2: we need to do our promise? Yes?

1757
01:23:58,720 --> 01:23:59,639
Speaker 7: Promise is promm?

1758
01:23:59,720 --> 01:24:03,000
Speaker 2: Does mine in already? No? Okay? Cool? All right, that's

1759
01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:04,280
Speaker 2: so our promises them. We'll get the heck out of here.

1760
01:24:04,360 --> 01:24:05,960
Speaker 2: Read us to pay for one. But you have a

1761
01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:09,760
Speaker 2: broken promise? Now, okay, all right, let's get it. How

1762
01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:11,240
Speaker 2: about Eddie go first?

1763
01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:11,599
Speaker 1: Oh?

1764
01:24:11,720 --> 01:24:12,320
Speaker 2: Man, you know me?

1765
01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:16,280
Speaker 3: The Cowboys ten and minus ten and a half at Carolina.

1766
01:24:16,520 --> 01:24:19,240
Speaker 3: I promise you, guys, we're on a roll. Just keep

1767
01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:20,400
Speaker 3: rolling with the Cowboys.

1768
01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:21,840
Speaker 2: Reid promise you something.

1769
01:24:21,960 --> 01:24:22,800
Speaker 6: Yep, that's the same one.

1770
01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:27,080
Speaker 2: I'm going with somebody. It's been me for like a

1771
01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:30,599
Speaker 2: few weeks. Okay, so that's that's reads. Okay, go ahead, Kevin.

1772
01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:32,559
Speaker 4: This one scares me. We've talked about it. But I'm

1773
01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:35,759
Speaker 4: gonna go with the Steelers plus one against the Browns.

1774
01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:38,280
Speaker 4: That's that defense is gonna tear up DTR.

1775
01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:42,160
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna go with because you are, oh got

1776
01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:47,840
Speaker 2: Eddie DTF and I'm gonna go only because texting buddy.

1777
01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:50,640
Speaker 2: I'm gonna g and the game is today tonight, but

1778
01:24:51,280 --> 01:24:52,640
Speaker 2: it's not gonna be our parlay, so we can I'm

1779
01:24:52,640 --> 01:24:55,040
Speaker 2: just gonna pick it for fun uts A minus sixteen

1780
01:24:56,000 --> 01:24:59,800
Speaker 2: Verst South Florida, my boy trailer. Okay, let's go.

1781
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,840
Speaker 3: Oh hey, did you come into this episode already picking that?

1782
01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:05,400
Speaker 2: Or is it changed? I changed? Interesting? Can't? The state

1783
01:25:05,439 --> 01:25:08,240
Speaker 2: was gonna be my deal because I but I gotta

1784
01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:09,800
Speaker 2: you know. He texted back so quick. I was like,

1785
01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:10,880
Speaker 2: how can I not like it?

1786
01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:11,479
Speaker 6: I love it?

1787
01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:13,320
Speaker 2: All right? Thank you guys, we'll see you have a

1788
01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:15,760
Speaker 2: great weekend. You too. Man. Please follow us at twenty

1789
01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:17,840
Speaker 2: five whistles and we'll see you. See you soon.

1790
01:25:18,240 --> 01:25:20,320
Speaker 3: Any blood whistle, Oh yeah, I got you along here,

1791
01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:20,800
Speaker 3: Here you go.

1792
01:25:22,160 --> 01:25:23,479
Speaker 2: Bye body,