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Speaker 1: Yeah, Hardened to me is the most obvious one. I

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Speaker 4: And if Harden gets one, that means Westbrook gets one

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Speaker 2: And six, don't I don't have it up up the

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Speaker 2: And people are cheering for Vince to get traded here

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Speaker 4: brandon Ingram out there, Jannis, Zion, and Eric Bledsoe, who

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's great, and they're running gate walking gate didn't

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Speaker 3: So just keep it sped up a little bit. I

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Speaker 1: This was an he weird, weird email. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: get the idea that maybe Lillard should be starting over Luca. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, Luca's good. I mean, let's just live

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Speaker 2: I actually, I guess it just throws people off because

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Speaker 1: You see flashes of it, Yeah, but you see a

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Speaker 5: A couple of weeks ago. He said there's flashes of

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Speaker 5: so you know it's tough. Though it's certainly tough. He's

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Speaker 5: now next time. You never had that in New York

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Speaker 5: really not certainly, not in Luca's position anyway. So he's

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Speaker 5: he's adjusting, and he's he's been in and out of

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Speaker 1: Is there anyone else, though, you'd have on this list.

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Speaker 4: I've got a couple of guys who are similar quality,

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Speaker 4: I would say to Porzingis. Porzingis has an All Star

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Speaker 4: But I just have a hard time telling if Warren

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I guess the weird part with those guys

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Speaker 1: But that's why you're right, they're always sort of in

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Speaker 1: I actually had TJ down there until I took him

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Speaker 5: I don't know, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Whenever your team trades for Tobias Harris, similar to TJ. Warren,

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Speaker 5: Give me some more in that contract he's got. I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he just never he never has felt like a

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Speaker 1: obviously you can help a team win some games. Anyone

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Speaker 2: People think that Trey Young is not all that good,

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Speaker 1: It does happen next one dinks. My stupid Wizards look

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Speaker 1: Thanks for keeping me company on my long runs. That's

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't say that I was rooting against them and

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Speaker 1: for that.

430
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Speaker 4: It made like two hundred and thirty episodes and now

431
00:18:58,520 --> 00:18:59,520
Speaker 4: they're making a movie.

432
00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,080
Speaker 3: How do you make a movie out of the Impractical Jokers?

433
00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:03,400
Speaker 1: Probably just the exact same thing.

434
00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:05,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's it's just like an hour and a

435
00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,000
Speaker 4: half long episode, I guess, with a little bit of

436
00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:08,720
Speaker 4: a plot to it, like they have to travel.

437
00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:10,840
Speaker 3: Around doing their impractical jokes.

438
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Speaker 6: Dude, they need a plant. I mean, Jackass made three movies.

439
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Speaker 3: It's a good point. Yeah, that's a good point, and

440
00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:17,640
Speaker 3: they're great.

441
00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:19,359
Speaker 6: I love them, but.

442
00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,240
Speaker 1: The Jackass movies. Yeah, do you watch Practical Practical Jokers? No?

443
00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:23,080
Speaker 3: Yeah?

444
00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:27,879
Speaker 1: I mean, okay, our buddy Jared he loves them, Like

445
00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:29,880
Speaker 1: anytime I ever go over to he has them all

446
00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:34,080
Speaker 1: on his DVR, every single episode. Really, yeah, he loves them.

447
00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:35,360
Speaker 6: And he's a company man.

448
00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:37,200
Speaker 1: He's a bit of a company man, but he actually

449
00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,399
Speaker 1: really believes in this product, in The Impractical Jokers, and

450
00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,600
Speaker 1: he was there from day one. They are, I mean,

451
00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:43,600
Speaker 1: so I've seen a lot of them because whenever I'm

452
00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,200
Speaker 1: at Jared's he puts them on and you can't help

453
00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,880
Speaker 1: it but watch them. Sometimes I've been at cottages with Jared.

454
00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:50,720
Speaker 1: He's got it on DVD or something like that. He's

455
00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:52,440
Speaker 1: throwing it on. Anyway, I've seen a lot of them.

456
00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:56,160
Speaker 1: It's fine. I definitely don't seek it out. But man, yeah,

457
00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,159
Speaker 1: these guys like go on cruise ship, sell out like

458
00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,800
Speaker 1: they sell live shows, like they're big time. I mean,

459
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Speaker 1: I think they're making a ton of money, the four

460
00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,159
Speaker 1: of these guys. There might there may have been some

461
00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,640
Speaker 1: friction at times between some of them. Yeah, I think

462
00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:10,200
Speaker 1: you know, you look like us. You know, you work

463
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Speaker 1: a lot of hours together, get tired.

464
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Speaker 3: Of buddies from like high school.

465
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they are like that. They are a lot of

466
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Speaker 1: time friends, I believe, but I think they've all you know, look,

467
00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,879
Speaker 1: they're getting paid enough. They patch it all up and

468
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Speaker 1: move on to the next cruise.

469
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Speaker 4: I saw there was like one season where the guy

470
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Speaker 4: who lost had to wear a wig made out of

471
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Speaker 4: the other guy's hair for an entire season.

472
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a get.

473
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Speaker 1: They do do some crazy streams. Yeah, they do, indeed.

474
00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:37,680
Speaker 1: So that is a good answer though.

475
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Speaker 6: But we're the original in practical jokers. Didn't we do

476
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Speaker 6: a pick them payoff? Where task was in your ear

477
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Speaker 6: skeets and you were out on the streets Toronto. I've

478
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Speaker 6: been eating everything that he said.

479
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Speaker 1: That's a that's a majority of what they do. You're right,

480
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Speaker 1: they'll send one of the guys into a grocery store

481
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Speaker 1: and then feed them lines and stuff like that. Yeah,

482
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Speaker 1: I guess we were in a weird way.

483
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Speaker 6: I should have ran with that.

484
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Speaker 2: And whenever you're flicking through and you see True TV,

485
00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:09,119
Speaker 2: they're always on. It's twenty four sure, twenty four hours

486
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Speaker 2: of the Jokesters. They're coming to uh, rural Georgia, not

487
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Speaker 2: rural suburban Georgia's Juluth. Okay, let's go see in August eighth.

488
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Speaker 1: I'm sure Jared already bought us a box.

489
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Speaker 2: On DVD too.

490
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Speaker 4: No.

491
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Speaker 1: I may have been kicking.

492
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Speaker 3: With but I wasn't.

493
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Speaker 1: You're originals, and I think I think we were just

494
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Speaker 1: out of cottage that had obviously whatever True TV is

495
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Speaker 1: on cable.

496
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's like one of the things he searches for

497
00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,640
Speaker 4: on the Airbnb. He's like, must have impractical jokers.

498
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Speaker 3: Yeah, why not?

499
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Speaker 1: Any uh the hot tub impractical jokers?

500
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Speaker 2: Well what point?

501
00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:46,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, barbecue, it's a he know you can like you

502
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,199
Speaker 1: can put it on though, Like let's just say you

503
00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,000
Speaker 1: threw it on TV and he knows, like that episode

504
00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:55,280
Speaker 1: who wins it? Like he knows the whole thing against

505
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Speaker 1: wild Man. He just loves it that much.

506
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Speaker 2: But anyway, I was I was in the Bahama this

507
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 2: and we're leaving our resort and one of the impractical

508
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:07,119
Speaker 2: jokers was kissing his loved one goodbye. It was a

509
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,040
Speaker 2: bit of a celebrity set. Like where would you rank

510
00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:13,159
Speaker 2: that on a celebrity setting? Was that a well, it depends.

511
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Speaker 5: Was it Murr?

512
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Speaker 1: Was it sal Was it Joe or was it Q?

513
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:22,600
Speaker 2: Yeah? It was was it James Murmurray? There is a Yeah,

514
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,199
Speaker 2: there was a bran Q Quinn.

515
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Speaker 1: Yeah, jeez, you don't know which one it was?

516
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Speaker 2: Well, it wasn't sal It wasn't Salvatory volcano. I'll tell

517
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Speaker 2: you that. Who is who has?

518
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, don't I don't even know. I can't

519
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 1: even help us out. And I appear to know the

520
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 1: most about them. I do have an answer for this.

521
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 1: I'm going to Raptors final game of the twenty eleven

522
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Speaker 1: twelve season tasts. You might remember this. This is the

523
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker 1: infamous ben Uzzo triple double game versus the Nets. The

524
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 1: Raps played seven guys in this game and they beat

525
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Speaker 1: the Nets by thirty one points. Now why is this

526
00:22:56,600 --> 00:23:01,720
Speaker 1: important Because that was the shortened season and that victory

527
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 1: tied them with the Warriors for the exact same record

528
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Speaker 1: twenty three and forty three on the year. So then

529
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Speaker 1: they had to go to the coin flip and the

530
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Speaker 1: Raptors lost it. So, you know, the Raptors just lose

531
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Speaker 1: that game. Ben Huzo doesn't go off, They'll pound the

532
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 1: Nets by thirty one. Then they would have got the

533
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Speaker 1: seventh pick. Instead, it went to the coin flip and

534
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Speaker 1: they got the eighth pick. Now ultimately didn't matter. Yes,

535
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 1: the Raptors missed out on Harrison Barnes instead got Terrence Ross.

536
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,400
Speaker 1: But you know, it's a funny little what if if

537
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 1: they win that coin to us or if they lose

538
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,399
Speaker 1: that game. But it was one of those classical like

539
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 1: what are you guys doing? Don't lose or don't win?

540
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,680
Speaker 1: Excuse me? This these final games. It happened all the

541
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Speaker 1: time they had lost, they'd done good job. I think

542
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 1: they had lost like three or four prior to that,

543
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Speaker 1: and then they finish off the season with the bank

544
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Speaker 1: getting that win. But Ben, who's at least he got a

545
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Speaker 1: triuble dobe? Nice one of the greatest names to get

546
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Speaker 1: a trible dobe for sure.

547
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Speaker 2: I got a quick answer as well. Since we love

548
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 2: talking light bulbs on this show, I'm waiting for light

549
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 2: bulbs to fail in my house because I desperately want

550
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Speaker 2: to change them. But I'm too cheap slash lazy to

551
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Speaker 2: go change a bullb that's working, right. I want to

552
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:04,879
Speaker 2: change it to a different colored light bulb, but I

553
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 2: just just don't care enough.

554
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 5: To You have to, you have to buy the bullet

555
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 5: on this one, because I was the same. I was like,

556
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:11,400
Speaker 5: I'm just going to wait for them all to blow

557
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,959
Speaker 5: and then replace them all. But you can't because some

558
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,119
Speaker 5: of them do last the nine years that they claim on.

559
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Speaker 5: The buttons last like three months, and so you're sort

560
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Speaker 5: of like, I've got half, you know, discolored bulbs, and

561
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Speaker 5: then I've got a couple of slots empty. I'm like,

562
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Speaker 5: all right, so one day, I just went and replace

563
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Speaker 5: them all.

564
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Speaker 2: Must have felt good.

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Speaker 5: It did, Actually it did. I didn't even care how

566
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 5: much it costs. Give me the eight pack of those,

567
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Speaker 5: give me the six pack of those. Shut them all

568
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Speaker 5: in there.

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Speaker 3: Wow, throwing around.

570
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Speaker 5: It feels great there. When you have consistent lighting in

571
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Speaker 5: your house?

572
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Speaker 2: Does lighting is everything? I've heard?

573
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Speaker 1: It feels great when you have consistent.

574
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Speaker 2: Lad Okay, next one here, unless anybody wants to add

575
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Speaker 2: to that. I loved all to talk about the All

576
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 2: Boost team. It's the all butts team, the All Kabooz team.

577
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 2: But what about skinny guys? I guess it must be

578
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,640
Speaker 2: pretty difficult to play in the NBA while being that thin. Nevertheless,

579
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,159
Speaker 2: the All time skin and Bones team looks good Man

580
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:17,360
Speaker 2: New Bowl, Kevin Durant, Tayshawn Prince, Reggie Miller, and Rip Hamilton.

581
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Speaker 2: Would the skinny guys beat the All boos squad? And

582
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Speaker 2: who is your favorite skinny guy in the league, retired

583
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Speaker 2: or active?

584
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Speaker 1: Big?

585
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Speaker 2: Thanks, Congress Tatassia, that's me, Thank you. Adam, who is

586
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Speaker 2: a pole as he puts it, living in Switzerland.

587
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Speaker 5: Yeah?

588
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Speaker 1: Would that? Well? I can't remember who we had on

589
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Speaker 1: the All Boost team, so it's tough to compare the

590
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Speaker 1: two squads. But you got Kevin Durant, yeah, Kahn and

591
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Speaker 1: Reggie and Rip for crying out loud on the Skin

592
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Speaker 1: and Bones team. That's a pretty good squad, especially again

593
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Speaker 1: Katie being one of the best players of all time,

594
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Speaker 1: and he's definitely on this team.

595
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Speaker 5: And you got the youngster in Brandon Ingram.

596
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Stretch, Yeah, he's got to be in the mix.

597
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Speaker 1: He is very skinny.

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Speaker 4: Do you think Kevin Garnett as a skinny guy.

599
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Speaker 5: Like as a player, Yes, but when we saw him

600
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 5: in person around the Turner studios, he was way bigger.

601
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Speaker 5: I thought, yeah, but he kind of was finished playing

602
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 5: as well, so he, you know, naturally put on a

603
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Speaker 5: little bit.

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Speaker 1: But as when he went young, young Kevin gart Kevin

605
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Speaker 1: Garnett for sure, Yeah, I guess in my mind he

606
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 1: got a little bigger and stronger as strong Yeah, and

607
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 1: got to the Celtics and won a championship. So maybe,

608
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Speaker 1: just like I said, younger KG, he's on my team,

609
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 1: but probably had to get bumped. I don't know who else.

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Speaker 5: I've got Jamal Crawford on there. I think he's always

611
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 5: been a thin guy.

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Speaker 1: I mean Williams is pretty pretty damp then too.

613
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Speaker 3: Corey Brewer, he's on the pack.

614
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Speaker 4: He had like there was no gradient to the size

615
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Speaker 4: of his leg from ankle to stick, just a stick,

616
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Speaker 4: a smiley stick.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. That is the weirdness when there's it's just the

618
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 1: exact same of the ankle all the way up to

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Speaker 1: the groin. It's like, oh my god, it's weird even

620
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Speaker 1: for me who basically has that changes a little bit

621
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Speaker 1: on me.

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Speaker 3: You got a strong cat.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the calf.

624
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:08,160
Speaker 1: Helps me out running, but otherwise it's pretty stick like. Yeah,

625
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 1: Corty Brewer, he's got to be on there. Anyone else

626
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 1: On skin and bones, Well, Brent Perry bones bones was

627
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 1: pretty skinny back of the day. Yeah, bunked up a

628
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 1: little bit.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well he wore the jacket in the don Con test.

630
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 5: He wanted to puff himself out a little bit, all right, next.

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Speaker 1: One, good hey, fellas. I got into the NBA when

632
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 1: I was around fifteen, Lebron was always my guy. After

633
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 1: a few years of following, I found a love affair

634
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 1: for Steph Curry. In the twenty eleven season, I told

635
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 1: all my friends that Steph Curry was the next big thing.

636
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 1: Often saying he would surpass Lebron. Went down to my

637
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,919
Speaker 1: local tab every year and bet on him for MVP.

638
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 1: In twenty fifteen, Curry was fifty one to one odds.

639
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 1: Great payout. I purchased a sign ball for two hundred

640
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: and fifty dollars now worth one thousand dollars. This is

641
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: from Curry. Things were great, and I was certain I

642
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 1: was a great talent scout. Anyway, I got way ahead

643
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 1: of myself, and in twenty sixteen I declared I was

644
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: now a Timberwolves fan. I bought a Wiggans ball, a

645
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 1: Towns ball, and way too much Wolves merchandise. Now I

646
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 1: sit here in a room full of cat and wigs

647
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: merch really regretting my decision. I constantly cop smack from

648
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Speaker 1: my friends and they send me the Timberwolves score every game.

649
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 1: My question, though, of you guys, is when is the

650
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 1: time you got ahead of yourself basketball wise and you

651
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: were unable to live it down. That's from Dylan r.

652
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:36,959
Speaker 5: Well sticking with the Minnesota Timberwolves. When Brandon Roy had

653
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 5: to kind of retire due to injury, we thought he

654
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 5: was done, and then he came back for the Timberwolves,

655
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 5: and I thought he could still be an All Star

656
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 5: because I thought, you know, he's lost the athleticism, sure,

657
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 5: but I still thought he was a smart player and

658
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 5: he would adjust his game, he'd round out his game,

659
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 5: and he would still be able to deliver. But unfortunately,

660
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 5: those knees and that meniscus was just gone right, and

661
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 5: he was never able to get even close to back

662
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 5: to being that star player. But I was confident. I

663
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 5: thought he's such a good player that he'll he'll just

664
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 5: figure out a way to still be effective hitting those three.

665
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 5: He's running the point just being a smart player. But sadly,

666
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 5: never it never came to fruition. And I've heard about

667
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 5: that one a few times over the years. Le Brandon

668
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 5: Right's fine, Yeah, are you.

669
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Speaker 1: Still You're still in Kevin Knox's corner? He's still going

670
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 1: about for an Ox because you were high.

671
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, it hasn't been a great season for cav That's

672
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 5: that's true. I like I like his shooting style, I

673
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 5: like his mechanics. I think he's going to be a

674
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 5: good shooter. But it's that situation in New York.

675
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 1: I was wondering because I see some Knicks fans they

676
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: want to still believe, but then there are others that

677
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: are like, yeah, the ship is sailed already to get

678
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 1: him out of here. The people are torn, But I

679
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: just want to know where you were.

680
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 5: I mean, that's the thing he needs. It's just a

681
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 5: new new team, I think. But yeah, I like, I

682
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 5: like the good things about him, but it's hard to

683
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 5: succeed in that environment.

684
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Speaker 2: Well.

685
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Speaker 1: I was getting excited on Tuesday night, being one of

686
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Speaker 1: of the lone inhabitants of Wiggins Island, and I was

687
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 1: excited because you guys were seeing the rumors just like

688
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: I was on Twitter, the possibility of like whoa, whoa,

689
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 1: whoa is this happening? Is Wiggans going to the Warriors?

690
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 1: Is there some sort of mood to be made? Is

691
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: Russell go into the Wolves? Oh my goodness, I was

692
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 1: getting excited. I was tweeting out that beachfront property was

693
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 1: still available on Wiggans Island. If you're still interested, we

694
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: would include a flight for you to come and check

695
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: out the island in advance, private pools, free Wi Fi,

696
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 1: we would wave, we would wave your subway franchise fees

697
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 1: if you're still interested in opening a subway. But yeah,

698
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 1: nothing has happened as of recording this one, So I'm there,

699
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 1: though I'm not buying a Wigans sign Bolt. I'll tell

700
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: you that that's next level a waste, a waste of

701
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 1: money doing that for any player in my mind. But uh, yeah,

702
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: you got to do you they're doing.

703
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 2: I would love to see the Warriors give it a shot.

704
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 2: I think there they've got enough pride, enough hubris to

705
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 2: believe they could turn Wingans into a champ. They believe it.

706
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 2: I mean, why shouldn't they in.

707
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 1: The right situation. Yeah, heinitely definitely could contribute that. You

708
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: can't tell me he couldn't. It's not it's just never

709
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: gonna now happen in Minnesota.

710
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 3: We just won't.

711
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 1: I don't think with the with meeting of the expectations

712
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: and and all of that. But yeah, if he's the

713
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 1: third or fourth guy on a on a really.

714
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 5: Good team, send him to Camp Popovitch for for a

715
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 5: year or two and see if Pop can get in.

716
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: You want to, you want to rooty game him up?

717
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 5: Why not?

718
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 1: Why not?

719
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 5: Let's see let's see what Pop can do?

720
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: All right, I'm still a whole note some hope. My

721
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 1: answer for this is Jason Maxial obviously, right. I mean,

722
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: we've said this millions of times. Now, I was high

723
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: on Jason Maxil early and he let me down. Anyone

724
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: else got pretty excited about somebody that ultimately disappointed.

725
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 4: I don't know if you would say disappointed, but Drew

726
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 4: Holiday after he dominated Damian Lillard in the eighteen playoffs,

727
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 4: I would have thought that guy's going to go to

728
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 4: an All Star Game at some point. And he was

729
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,719
Speaker 4: on the All Defensive team and he's still have been

730
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 4: a solid player for the Pelicans, but those games against Lillard,

731
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 4: he looked like the best player in the league. He

732
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 4: looked like Kawhi Leonard playing as a point guard and

733
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 4: he I mean, the size was just overwhelming for Lillard.

734
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 4: And then you know, Drew was motivated offensively and aggressive offensively,

735
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 4: and that was a problem for Lillard as well. But

736
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Speaker 4: I think basically since that moment, Lillard has rosen even

737
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 4: higher as a star and has kind of solidified himself

738
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 4: amongst the best point guards in the game. Where Drew

739
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 4: is a guy that we're always saying, in the right situation,

740
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 4: he could be perfect.

741
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 3: In the playoffs, he could be perfect.

742
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 4: And maybe that's the thing is that if he gets

743
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 4: back to the playoffs and has to play some meaningful

744
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 4: games we're seeing playoff Drew, but I don't know if

745
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 4: it's if it's an every night thing for him.

746
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: It didn't help when GM David Griffin came out and

747
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 1: said Drew Holiday could be in the MVP conversation at

748
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 1: the start of the season, and that gets you really

749
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 1: excited too. You're like, oh God, I believe Griff. This

750
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: guy knows what's up. He's telling me Drew Halidy might

751
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 1: be an nfright. Hell yeah, all right, let's see it.

752
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 1: And then you know, look, injury's always hurt him as well.

753
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: That's good one, Drew Holiday task, you got one.

754
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 2: I kind of thought Alex lenn out of Maryland was

755
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 2: going to be great, but he stole my sunshine. Yeah,

756
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 2: not too many times, not too many more opportunities to

757
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 2: use that joke, I'm not. Hopefully, hopefully Alex lenn will

758
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 2: provide some opportunities to tell that joke.

759
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 3: Hopefully you're getting another one.

760
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 4: I heard his name pop up a couple of times

761
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 4: when people are talking about buyout centers that are possible,

762
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 4: So somebody, somebody's going to take a chance.

763
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 2: People believe in Alex lennz Oh what yeah, Okay, yeah,

764
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 2: you think if there was any time he would be

765
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 2: get getting some burned right now with the Atlanta Hawks,

766
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 2: and he's had an opportunity with the Atlanta.

767
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 1: Hawks, buddies, he had a fine, good game or two.

768
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 2: It's fine here or there.

769
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, though, not a good sign when he's

770
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 1: on the worst team in the league and we're still

771
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: barely talking about him.

772
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 7: Yeah.

773
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, well you you actually skeets. You just sent

774
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 2: me something on Instagram which which is sort of relevant

775
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 2: to this email or talking about purchasing a ball. It

776
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 2: went up in value from two hundred and fifty bucks

777
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 2: to one thousand dollars. You sent me a profile that

778
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 2: sells old wrestling Action figures. Correct now, And when I

779
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 2: was in college, a friend of mine said that her

780
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:20,760
Speaker 2: boyfriend wanted to purchase my Action figures at five dollars

781
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 2: a pop because I had them. I don't know how

782
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 2: she knew that I had these Action figures because I

783
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 2: wasn't playing with them as a as a as a

784
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,479
Speaker 2: college boy. But I did have thirty in my bag,

785
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 2: and I said five not in my backpack, but in

786
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 2: my bag. I said five bucks pop. No way, no

787
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 2: way you can tell Craig that they're not for sale.

788
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 2: He didn't come back with another offer, he didn't come

789
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 2: to the negotiation. Negotiation. Yeah, but I'm fine with it

790
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 2: now because this Instagram account that Skeet sent over, they're

791
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 2: selling them for like fifty bucks a pop.

792
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. We're talking about like those old sort of harder

793
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 1: class stick that you really couldn't bend all that much,

794
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,439
Speaker 1: like maybe what six seven inches high something like that,

795
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 1: like those the classic wrestling figures that we all grew

796
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: up back in the late eighties, early nineties. Fifty so

797
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 1: you still have yours?

798
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not in men condition, and these Instagram because

799
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 2: I played with them.

800
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: Yeah oh yeah, the paint comes off.

801
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're in my backpack so they're rumbling around.

802
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 2: But hopefully one day, one day I'll sell them for

803
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 2: fifty bucks.

804
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 1: Did you have the ring and everything? I did? Yeah?

805
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:31,720
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness.

806
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 5: Wow.

807
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 1: Decals still on really decals?

808
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 2: Yeah for sure.

809
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm interested.

810
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,879
Speaker 2: Maybe we can get some decals from our neighbors.

811
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 6: But you're interested?

812
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 5: How much?

813
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 3: How much?

814
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 5: You?

815
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 3: How much?

816
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 5: How much?

817
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 1: I mean, well, i'd like to see your collection, I guess,

818
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: I mean, what are we talking about? You got to

819
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 1: me and gen in there. I don't know I had

820
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 1: that one. I do remember. MI all gone now unfortunately,

821
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:55,280
Speaker 1: or we could have done some trades.

822
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 2: I got the brain rest in peace. I got a

823
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 2: multiple haulk Hogans.

824
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 1: You got Matra Man. Yeah, yeah, okay, you got ultimate ware.

825
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 2: I'm not a modern day all right, Well, good luck.

826
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: I hope you can sell those. Yeah, I hope that

827
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 1: page page helped you out there make some money.

828
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:21,399
Speaker 2: Let me hit him on next one here. Some episodes ago,

829
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 2: someone wrote in about how he tried to explain the

830
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 2: funny origins of stepping on the beach to someone who

831
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 2: didn't appreciate it. After a moment, it dawned on me that,

832
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 2: despite enjoying beach steppin and the music that goes with it,

833
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 2: I have no idea where that originated anyway. Now that

834
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 2: you guys have been going for so long, I'm sure

835
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 2: there are plenty of fans like myself who've been listening

836
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 2: for a long time, but not quite long enough to

837
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 2: know some of the origins of the inside jokes we

838
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 2: all love. So what are the origins of beach steppin?

839
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 2: That's from alex ps. I'm stoked to see you guys

840
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 2: at All Story weekend in Chicago. My girlfriend and I

841
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 2: are going to be coming up to the live show

842
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 2: from Nashville, Tennessee.

843
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, good stuff, Alex. Excited to see you. I keep

844
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,359
Speaker 1: forgetting we're doing a live I think it's because we

845
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:04,839
Speaker 1: posted that we were doing it and it sold out

846
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 1: so quickly. They were like, oh, okay, that was cool,

847
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: and I keep forgetting we are doing that. But yeah,

848
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: that's happening on Saturday, February fifteenth, the Unfortunately, if you

849
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: didn't get tickets, sorry, maybe get them on the get

850
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 1: them on the black market if you can trade a

851
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 1: couple wrestling figures for the I don't know what the

852
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 1: going rate is for no dungs ticket. What are the origins?

853
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, great question.

854
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't I don't know.

855
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 6: Really, I mean we used to take breaks in the show,

856
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 6: I guess. And then that song. I just played it

857
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 6: randomly when we're coming into a mail bag segment and

858
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 6: it just struck a nerve. I guess the lyrics which

859
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 6: aren't stepping on the beach, I don't think, but it

860
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 6: sort of sounds like it kind of sounds like yeah,

861
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 6: and then it just kind of stuck. I don't know.

862
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, The only reason why the lyrics are there is

863
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 2: because someone started saying, as the beats come in beach, beach,

864
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 2: step the beach. Yeah, that's the only reason. Yeah, that's it.

865
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:09,760
Speaker 2: Shouldn't have told that story.

866
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: What is the song called? Again?

867
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 6: It's called dirty Talk, Yes, like that on an album

868
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 6: called This is Porn. You can search it if you

869
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:26,240
Speaker 6: if you're not careful. It's actually on Spotify with seventy

870
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 6: five songs on that album, and they're all similar, so

871
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 6: you can have a have a great old dance party.

872
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,399
Speaker 2: It's on YouTube as well if you search dirty Talk.

873
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 6: So some of some some of the track titles Feeling Filthy,

874
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 6: Riding the Bass, body Heat. I love the titles grind Low.

875
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 1: I do wonder like were we talking about something beach

876
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 1: related and then the song was played and then it

877
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: sort of tied into as we had just been talking

878
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 1: about it or was it? Yeah, just simply someone was like,

879
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,959
Speaker 1: does that sound like they're saying stepping on the beach?

880
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 6: Like it's very positive, very possible.

881
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 4: I don't know.

882
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 1: Maybe Mati Mattio's listening. Let us know th he remember?

883
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 1: Is this type of stuff? All?

884
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 5: Right?

885
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: Next one here, good morning, sweet World and welcome to

886
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 1: my email. Ryan from Sacramento here, big fan of you

887
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 1: guys and a big Kings fan. After Marvin Bagley went

888
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 1: down in the first game of the season, I was

889
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 1: asked by this older guy what the Kings would do

890
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 1: without Bagley. I told him they should give him some

891
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: minutes to Wenyan Gabriel. Wenyan Gabriel. Yes, he somehow had

892
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: never heard of the Stockton King's legend. When I was

893
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: explaining his game to him, I called him a poor

894
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: man's Pascal Siaka. I don't think he knew who Siakam was,

895
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 1: this guy that Ryan was talking to. Anyway, what are

896
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: some other weird poor man's examples you've used of lesser

897
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: known players. Again, that's from Ryan. Shout out to Ryan

898
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: being a Kings fan.

899
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 4: I think it was just yesterday that I called Andrew

900
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 4: Wiggins the rich man's Glenn Robinson the Third, which then

901
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,720
Speaker 4: makes Glenn Rabinson the Third the poor man's Andrew Wiggins.

902
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, you're right, that's a that's a weird one.

903
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,439
Speaker 4: So yeah, I think that's fair. You know, the book

904
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 4: can run around and dunk, but I don't know. I

905
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 4: mean Wiggins at this point, you would think he averages

906
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 4: one point per game.

907
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the guy's still like yeah, and can have

908
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 1: games where he takes over You're right.

909
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 5: A couple for me. Early on, John Henson, I had

910
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 5: a poor man's Tyson Chandler because he was kind of

911
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 5: long and thin shot blocker, could grab those oops and

912
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 5: dunk it down. And I had high expectations for John

913
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 5: John not John Collins, John Henson, John Henson, John Yeah. Yeah.

914
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 5: Is he even still in the leak? Yeah, yeah, he's

915
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 5: a CAV that's right.

916
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:42,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, just in trade talks.

917
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:43,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, what the next?

918
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 5: And then another guy early on in his career. I

919
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,240
Speaker 5: had Gore and Draga as a poor man's Manu because

920
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 5: of the way he played lefty foreigner. He had that

921
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 5: one breakout game against the Spurs in the playoffs too,

922
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 5: had twenty three and the fourth quarter. Yep, I thought, man,

923
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 5: this is Manu, this is Mano two point zero and

924
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 5: you know he's had a dacent Creek run. But he's

925
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 5: not Mena.

926
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,439
Speaker 1: No, it's a good, good one though. I could see

927
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: that at the time for sure. I remember talking about

928
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 1: that game about how he looked like that. Absolutely has he.

929
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 2: Got any I think Alan Ray is a poor man's

930
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:22,240
Speaker 2: Ray Allen. Terence Davis is a poor man's Terrell Davis.

931
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 2: Lennis Claza is a poor man's Lennis Claza. What do

932
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 2: I mean by that? Yeah, he's more often than not

933
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 2: a bad version of himself because he's a real altizo

934
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 2: type dude. But in all seriousness, I think Alfonsa McKinney

935
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 2: also poor man's Andrew Wiggins. There remind me a lot

936
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 2: of each other. I think if Andrew Wigans got traded

937
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 2: to the Warriors, I'd see Alfonsea McKinney out there in

938
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 2: a Warriors jersey.

939
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:54,320
Speaker 1: Okay, And then, uh, for me, it's I caught a

940
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,879
Speaker 1: lot of flak for this. I remember when he made

941
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 1: his way to the Bulls. But Otto Porter has always

942
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: been a poor man's Jeff Green to me, always, always, always, always,

943
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: And some people disagree with that, but I see a

944
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 1: lot of similarities because you're like, hey, this guy could

945
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: be good. He's got all the tools. Sometimes he is

946
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 1: a lot of times you don't even know he's out

947
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 1: there playing basketball. Happens a lot with both those guys

948
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 1: over their career, with Jeff Green and even more recently

949
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 1: with out A Porter. But that's that's that's my poor Man's.

950
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 2: They're similar, Yeah, dope, next one here Hano dunks. Growing

951
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 2: up in an era before League Pass, it was hard

952
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 2: to see a lot of NBA players actually play in games.

953
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 2: Now we can easily watch as many games as we

954
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 2: want and have a good feel for every team, Which

955
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 2: leads me to my question, what's an example of an

956
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 2: NBA player that you became a fan of before ever

957
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 2: seeing them play in an actual game. For example, my

958
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 2: younger brother became a big fan of Todd Day because

959
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 2: he had a basketball card with him dunking on it. Personally,

960
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 2: I decided I really like Donielle Marshall because there was

961
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 2: a cool artistic rendition of him in an issue of

962
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 2: Beckett Basketball Monthly, and around our house, Pete Chilcutt was

963
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 2: allegend because he was from three and Tecmo Super NBA

964
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 2: Basketball for the Super Nintendo. I love having the daily

965
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 2: podcast that's from Jesse in Michigan.

966
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 1: I would say for this, a majority of guys from

967
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 1: like the ninety five, ninety six or ninety six ninety

968
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 1: seven seasons would be my answer to this. Guys that

969
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 1: I was fans of, Guys that I was a fan

970
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 1: of before ever seeing actually play because I've said this

971
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 1: before in the show. I was playing fantasy basketball with

972
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 1: my friends. This was pre internet, so we were doing it,

973
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,879
Speaker 1: and you know, you know, outside of watching the big

974
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 1: games on whatever NBC or stuff like that, I'm not

975
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:37,320
Speaker 1: being able to see Terrell Brandon play, or Vin Baker play,

976
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 1: or Tom Googliata play, or Kendall Gill play, like not

977
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,760
Speaker 1: a whole lot by any means, you know, barely even highlights.

978
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: I mean like maybe they're in a top ten on

979
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 1: you know, inside stuff. But I knew all these guys

980
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,399
Speaker 1: and I knew all their stats in those particular years

981
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: because we played fantasy basketball. So I became like, you know,

982
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, this guy's good. I remember, I remember

983
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 1: Tom Googliatta was the top of the town for a

984
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 1: year in fantasy ball and so and i'd probably I

985
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 1: barely had probably ever seen him play. I knew what

986
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,439
Speaker 1: he looked like, but I rarely had seen him play.

987
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: So any of those sort of Danty five, ninety six,

988
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: ninety seven, you know, Mookie Blaylock, like those at that

989
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: era guys that put up numbers, for sure, is my answer.

990
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 4: I became a Corliss Williamson fan because he was like

991
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 4: dominant in college basketball games, like in college basketball video games.

992
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,879
Speaker 4: For whatever reason, Corlus Williamson had ranged to half court

993
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 4: and I was like, oh, this is sweet. This guy's

994
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 4: gonna be the.

995
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 3: Next Charles Barkley.

996
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 4: Corless Williamson what a name. Yeah, this guy's gonna dominate.

997
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 4: And you know he was fine. He did okay in

998
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,320
Speaker 4: the NBA but nothing special, but uh who he was

999
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 4: unstoppable in video games.

1000
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 5: I was a big fan of Brandon Jennings hearing that

1001
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 5: he was drafted to the NBA and he said, I

1002
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 5: want to go and playing Toronto and earn some money.

1003
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 5: And then when he came to the NBA he had

1004
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,439
Speaker 5: that fifty five point game like ten games into his career.

1005
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 5: I remember saying with you for I told you what

1006
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 5: you have for Brandon Jennings, He's gonna be great, honey.

1007
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:02,320
Speaker 5: Well he was like, guy, but actually my answers it.

1008
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 5: So in nineteen eighty seven, there was this really weird

1009
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 5: basketball series that happened in Australia. Australia played the Soviet

1010
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 5: Union in six games in like eight nights across Australia,

1011
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 5: and two players on that team were Sarunas Marshall Loonas

1012
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 5: and Alexander Volkov who also had a cup of coffee

1013
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 5: in the NBA. But I don't even know why they played.

1014
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 5: It was just these games. They just crammed them into

1015
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 5: like a week and played. Alvita Sabonis was supposed to

1016
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 5: play because the old Soviet Union, so it wasn't just Russia,

1017
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 5: it was all those countries that make up the Soviet Union.

1018
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 5: But I still remember at the time this Marshal Loners

1019
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 5: was amazing. And then after that, I think he played

1020
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 5: in the Olympics for the Soviet Union and then I

1021
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 5: was like, Oh, what's happened to him? And then he

1022
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 5: turned up in the NBA just as I started really

1023
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 5: getting into the NBA Warrior Yeah, and I was like,

1024
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 5: I remember Marshall owners he killed us and he had

1025
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 5: a pretty good career in the end, So it was

1026
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 5: weird to have seen him just for that series. Is

1027
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 5: one off series that that happened.

1028
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 1: Did you go to the games?

1029
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 7: No?

1030
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 5: I didn't know, No, But I found I found the

1031
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 5: last game on YouTube. Yesterda. You should see the uniforms

1032
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 5: that these guys are wearing. It's unbelievable. Andrew Gays has

1033
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,760
Speaker 5: forty four points in the last game two goes to overtime,

1034
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 5: but they get swept. Australia lose six oz. Because there's

1035
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 5: a couple of monsters on that Soviet team. To Shenko,

1036
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 5: this one guy, he must have been at least seven

1037
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 5: to two seven three. So and again that this is

1038
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 5: without Sabonus, who would have been almost in his prime

1039
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 5: back then. So yeah, it was great.

1040
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 1: But hold on back to the uniforms. Yeah, it's all

1041
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 1: crazy about them.

1042
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 5: I'll show you. I'll show you them because they're just

1043
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 5: like they're basically like the skinniest single you've ever seen,

1044
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,720
Speaker 5: and they got pinny Yeah, and then these tiny, tiny

1045
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 5: shorts as well.

1046
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:35,760
Speaker 1: The picture.

1047
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's awesome.

1048
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 3: For me.

1049
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 2: It was Anthony Parker because in two thousand and six

1050
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 2: the Raptors signed him from Israela where he was playing

1051
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 2: for six seasons. I hadn't watched his late nineties brief

1052
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 2: career in the NBA when he had a couple of

1053
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 2: coffee with the Nets and I think the Sixers as well,

1054
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 2: and I was buying it.

1055
00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 3: I was a Raptors fan back then.

1056
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 2: I was buying two two thousand and six, buying this

1057
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 2: juice and I was actually abroad, so I read about

1058
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 2: his signing in an Internet cafe and Brian Colangelo was

1059
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 2: a goodness bringing every euro slash person playing abroad to Toronto.

1060
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 2: So I was buying that juice. And hey, I liked

1061
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 2: Anthony Parker's game at six six. I love the way

1062
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 2: you could play, but uh yeah, ap had some skill.

1063
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: Yeah alright, excellent. Hello guys, I missed the quarterly market

1064
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: report you guys have done in the past, so I

1065
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:36,240
Speaker 1: wanted to ask which teams do you see running overvalued

1066
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 1: and undervalued while we are moving towards the All Star

1067
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: break here, best wishes from the Basketball land Lithuania, that

1068
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: is from Povolos. Yes, quarterly report, YEP. Used to do it,

1069
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 1: I've done it in a while here, but we one

1070
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 1: of the things was overvalued and undervalued teams that you

1071
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 1: either should be you know, bye bye bye right now

1072
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 1: or sell sell sell cutting an answer.

1073
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 5: Is it worth buying into the Indiana paces right now?

1074
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 5: Especially with all the depot back the Sixers in a

1075
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:09,800
Speaker 5: little bit of turmoil there. They could be the surprise

1076
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 5: team in the Eastern Conference, but I sort of feel

1077
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 5: like we felt that way about them in years gone by.

1078
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 5: Where you know, they're obviously going to make the playoffs.

1079
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 5: They're going to be a tough opponent whoever they face.

1080
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 5: But are they Are they actually capable of beating say

1081
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 5: the Raptors and the Celtics and the Heat couple of

1082
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 5: teams two of those teams. Could they beat those two teams?

1083
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 5: I'd say they probably could, but they need everything to

1084
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 5: go right for them. But you know, great defense, well

1085
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 5: coached again, with all the depot coming back giving their

1086
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 5: offense a boost, they could be they could be a

1087
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 5: real tough team in the playoffs. But but then again,

1088
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 5: last year they got swept by the Celtics. So who

1089
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 5: knows really with the Pacers is what I'm saying there,

1090
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 5: But I think I think they're Of all those teams,

1091
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:53,439
Speaker 5: they're the one that's a bit of a dark horse

1092
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 5: threat I.

1093
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 4: Think out of the East, even more so than my

1094
00:48:56,280 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 4: undervalued team, The Boston Celtics feth on offense third and defense.

1095
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 4: It's third in margin of victory. That adds up to

1096
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 4: a top five team, and I don't think anybody really

1097
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 4: considers the Celtics a top five team. They got three

1098
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 4: guys who are averaging twenty points a game. The chemistry

1099
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 4: is great, the pieces seem to fit. They've got a

1100
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 4: whole bunch of options. They got a lot of guys

1101
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 4: who can pass the ball, a lot of guys who

1102
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 4: can make plays. And you know, in the next day

1103
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:18,479
Speaker 4: and a half, they.

1104
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 3: Could still get better.

1105
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 4: They could still upgrade a little bit over Daniel Tice

1106
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 4: or you know, just bringing a little bit more depth

1107
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 4: to the big man position, something like that. The Celtics

1108
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 4: are good, and I would wouldn't want to see them

1109
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 4: in the playoffs.

1110
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 1: I don't think I'll stick with an undervalued team in

1111
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 1: the East. I think it's Milwaukee Bucks. I think it's

1112
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 1: the number one team in the NBA. I think they're

1113
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 1: undervalued because they're forty three and seven. I mean, they

1114
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 1: are on a seventy win pace and we're just sort

1115
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: of now starting to see the graphics on T and

1116
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,280
Speaker 1: T about it's starting to see the graphics on ESPN's

1117
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 1: Twitter page about it. But that is amazing. If this

1118
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 1: is any other team or a lot of other teams,

1119
00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 1: this is huge dues. You're starting every podcas every show

1120
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 1: with their latest win and domination and stuff like that.

1121
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 1: But we're not doing it with the Bucks. They're the

1122
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:09,399
Speaker 1: number one team defensively, they're number three offensively. They play

1123
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 1: the fastest game in the league. Obviously, they got the

1124
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 1: MVP and the honest They've got another All Star in

1125
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 1: Middleton Bledsoe is right there in the mix. All these

1126
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: pieces are working. If they're healthy, they're juggnat. But here's

1127
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 1: why they're undervalued. Somehow Vegas does not have them as

1128
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 1: the favorites to win the title, which is crazy. Again,

1129
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 1: this could be a seventy win team to not even

1130
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 1: be the favorites with the Lakers still ahead of them. Technically,

1131
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 1: that seems weird, and I get it. None of this

1132
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 1: really matters until they can put together a run to

1133
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 1: the finals and put up a fight. But that's strange

1134
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 1: to me. Any other seventy win paced team would be

1135
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:46,319
Speaker 1: the favorite with the MVP. I mean, so, I still

1136
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:48,839
Speaker 1: think they're actually undervalued, even though I'm happy we are

1137
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:51,359
Speaker 1: starting to see people talk about them a little bit

1138
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,399
Speaker 1: more as we near the l Starry.

1139
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 2: I didn't like the one tiny, teeny tiny thing about

1140
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:00,439
Speaker 2: the Bucks season. Mark Laswie, one of their own, said

1141
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 2: that they are focused on getting seventy wins, don't focus

1142
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 2: on that. Yeah, it didn't work. For the Warriors, just

1143
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 2: chill if you got a chill, right. I don't think

1144
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 2: that should I don't think that really has an impact

1145
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 2: on the way Mike Budenholzer will play guys or their

1146
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 2: athletic staff will play guys. Throw guys out there. But

1147
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 2: the Warriors did go for it. They went for the

1148
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 2: seventy three and nine anyway for the all time best record,

1149
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 2: and that didn't help, you know, in the playoffs. It

1150
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 2: sort of wore them down a little bit. So I

1151
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 2: could definitely see them getting seventy wins and they're on

1152
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 2: pace for that though. They could definitely get there. I

1153
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:38,760
Speaker 2: got the Wizards as an underrated team because they're getting

1154
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 2: healthy or Rui is back. Bradley Beal extremely confident. He

1155
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 2: was asked, do you like your chances of making the playoffs?

1156
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 2: He said, no, no, no, no, I love our chances.

1157
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 2: And they're not that far back. No, they're not that

1158
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 2: far back. So getting back healthy, an, it's the Eastern Conference.

1159
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:00,720
Speaker 2: What a selugfest it's going to be for that eighth spot.

1160
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a battle and the seventh spot because

1161
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 2: the nets are falling fast.

1162
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's just exactly what I was just gonna say

1163
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,840
Speaker 1: there's two spots there for the taken from all of

1164
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 1: these teams. I think as far as overvalued, the Sixers

1165
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 1: have to be overvalued too. And I know people are

1166
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 1: questioning with their makeup of the team, and we just

1167
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 1: talked about Tobias Harris and then there's the whole embat

1168
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:21,879
Speaker 1: and simmonsing and can you make this work? And what

1169
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 1: about coach Brown? Does he maybe they have to shake

1170
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 1: it up and find someone else to see if they

1171
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 1: can make this work as the head coach. But like again,

1172
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:31,760
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe to go back to Vegas. They're fourteen

1173
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 1: to one favorites to win the title. That's like fourth

1174
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:36,839
Speaker 1: or fifth best odds. How the hell do you watch

1175
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 1: the Sixers team and say they're like, oh, they got

1176
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 1: like the fourth or fifth best chance to go all

1177
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 1: the way to the finals. They might lose in the

1178
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 1: first round for crying out loud. So that just to

1179
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: me is like that still is a little perplexing. I

1180
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 1: get it. I mean, if any team I believe in

1181
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 1: beating the Bucks in a seven game series, I actually

1182
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 1: still think it might be the Sixers just in terms

1183
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 1: of matchups that it might be them. But they may

1184
00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 1: not even play them, right, I mean, so, yeah, I

1185
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 1: think the Sixers are still overvalued at those odds. I

1186
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:04,799
Speaker 1: don't I don't get. I don't get how like a

1187
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 1: team like even like the Raptors is lower, you know,

1188
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: worse chances to go all the way and win another title.

1189
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 5: Do you have the best home record if that comes

1190
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:15,919
Speaker 5: into play it all? You know, if they can get that, well.

1191
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 1: I'll tell you it's not gonna matter too much when

1192
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 1: you got to go on the road for.

1193
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,879
Speaker 4: Basically every series here, eight and nineteen on the road

1194
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 4: right now, Yeah, terrible, But that the sixth seed, and

1195
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 4: they would play right now the Boston Celtics.

1196
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 3: Their lead the season series three one against the Celtics.

1197
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I know. I guess that's the They're a

1198
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 1: perplexing team in the sense like, yeah, you could convince

1199
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 1: yourself they could beat anybody on any given night, or

1200
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 1: win a playoff series on any you know, any given series,

1201
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 1: but you also can flip it around and go they

1202
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 1: could just implode and for sure and at times have

1203
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:47,359
Speaker 1: and Ben Simmons calling the team soft and stuff like that.

1204
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 1: I mean, it could go south real real quick. And

1205
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 1: it even has sort of bad times and they just

1206
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: sort of keep scraping by. But will they run this, well,

1207
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 1: they see this through the end of this year, and

1208
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 1: then will you know, let's say they lose in a

1209
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 1: first or second round, Brown would be gone. I think

1210
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:05,800
Speaker 1: I just unless there's a drastic change with an embeater Simmons,

1211
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 1: I think they'd have to bring in somebody else to

1212
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 1: see if they could A new coach couldn't make it

1213
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 1: work a little smoother, right, I think that would have

1214
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 1: to be the move, and then then we'll go from there.

1215
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 1: Any other overvalue, undervalue? No? No, keep going next one.

1216
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 2: Hey, dink a ruse. I've been thinking about this for

1217
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 2: a while and finally decided to ask the question, is

1218
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:27,360
Speaker 2: Rudy Gobert really a good defender or is he just

1219
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:28,840
Speaker 2: good at being tall?

1220
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 1: We get some weird emails. Is Luca Doncic's really that good?

1221
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 1: Is Rudy Gobert really good?

1222
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1223
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,840
Speaker 2: His point is, OK, it's not valid, But his point

1224
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 2: is he gets he gets cooked when he has to

1225
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 2: switch and guard out on the perimeter and is only

1226
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 2: really effective around the rim. Very easy to do when

1227
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:47,799
Speaker 2: you're a man of his stature. So I don't know,

1228
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 2: maybe he's just good at being a seven footer and

1229
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:53,319
Speaker 2: is not actually a great defender. That's from Nick and

1230
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 2: adelaide that this.

1231
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 1: Doesn't really make any sense because that by this sort

1232
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,359
Speaker 1: of definition that Nick is saying, like Boba and should

1233
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 1: be the greatest defender in the league, he's a big dude,

1234
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 1: he's one of the worst. He's one of the worst

1235
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 1: defenders position.

1236
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 5: Oh, you could say a good on bold defender like

1237
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 5: a Patrick Beverley's not good at protecting the rim because

1238
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 5: he's not big enough.

1239
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't really get I wanted to

1240
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 2: include this just because on Twitter Rudy Gobert does get

1241
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 2: cooked as the email it rights for getting blown by

1242
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 2: on the perimeter, for not being a guy who can

1243
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 2: defend guards. But he's actually decent at it. And you've

1244
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 2: even his his fellow countryman. Going back to the World Cup,

1245
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 2: if Nick was watching when he blocked his fellow teammate

1246
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 2: Donovan Mitchell chasing him from behind because he had the

1247
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 2: guard mount on the perimeter. He does that to a

1248
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 2: lot of guys and yeah, he's not as fast as

1249
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 2: Donovan Mitchell or guards, but he's okay at it, and

1250
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 2: it's tough to find a Giannistet Koopa or Draymond Green

1251
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 2: who can guard one through five. There's not many of

1252
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 2: those guys, but he's he's pretty good at it, and

1253
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 2: he definitely alls and scares a lot of people when

1254
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:04,479
Speaker 2: they get anywhere close to the rim, even if he's

1255
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 2: had to chase them from the three point line.

1256
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:08,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, Quinn Snyder or Jazz fans or whoever, they don't

1257
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 1: want Rudy Gobert switched on to a Chris Paul or

1258
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 1: James Harden or whoever. But nobody wants that. Nobody wants

1259
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 1: their big to be exploited by these guys that have

1260
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:20,319
Speaker 1: unbelievable handles and are super fast. But I'm with you

1261
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 1: task even when that does happen, I'm not like, well,

1262
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 1: wave the white flag, this possession is over. I mean,

1263
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 1: he's still going to be if they blow by him,

1264
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 1: he's going to be able to with his length, still

1265
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 1: challenge them at the rim and be a to terrent

1266
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 1: or it be in the back of their minds that

1267
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 1: he's could be there and he doesn't all right for

1268
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 1: a seven foot or to just try and move his

1269
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 1: feet and try and stay in front of the guy.

1270
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, game saving block against the Mavericks a couple of

1271
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 5: weeks ago, when I think it was Delann Roy beat

1272
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 5: him at the end off the dribble, and he recovered

1273
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 5: and wiped it away at the rim, so he can.

1274
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 5: It's just often now you say a lot of big

1275
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 5: guys out on the perimeter that they look out of

1276
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:56,319
Speaker 5: their depth because the smaller guys can you cross them

1277
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 5: up and blow you right past them. It's not uncommon

1278
00:56:59,200 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 5: to see.

1279
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 3: You can't teach it.

1280
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 4: That's why there's a saying, yeah, you need tall guys,

1281
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 4: you need tall guys by the rim.

1282
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:05,320
Speaker 3: It definitely helps.

1283
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 1: But Houston Rockets say that's incorrect.

1284
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 4: And honestly, the Houston Rockets have had their way with

1285
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 4: Rudy Gobert, so I think that's probably part of why

1286
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 4: this sure factors in here, is that if you get

1287
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 4: him on a switch, that's exactly where you want Rudy.

1288
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 4: But the Jazz do a great job of keeping him

1289
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 4: by the rim because that's where he's one of the

1290
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 4: best in the league at it.

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00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 1: A couple more hey NDC. I was watching the Hawks

1292
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 1: play my Celtics on Monday night and Trey Young repeatedly

1293
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 1: pulled up with his feet on the yes, very large

1294
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 1: logo with young Lillard and stuff seeming to push out

1295
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 1: the length of a regular shot every year. Will there

1296
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 1: come a time in the not too two distant future

1297
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 1: when shots from half court or from the back court

1298
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 1: become a normal part of a player's arsenal. My brother

1299
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 1: quickly said no, on the thinking that the precision part

1300
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 1: of shooting is the limiting factor. I think the limit

1301
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 1: is the strength, slash, the shooting form, which should only improve,

1302
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 1: akin to driving a golf ball or the escalation of

1303
00:57:56,640 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 1: tricks that gymnasts perform off the vault. Like this email, Sean,

1304
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 1: that was a well crafted email, you know, asking this

1305
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 1: idea of like are we are we going to see

1306
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 1: more and more of these deep bombs because Sean thinks,

1307
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 1: you know, with the strength and the shooting form, why not.

1308
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 1: Brother says no, man, it's a precition. Precision further you

1309
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 1: get away, that's precision you're gonna have.

1310
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think so. What is funny though, sometimes

1311
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 5: when you see the guy like a Rubio throw a

1312
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 5: full court pass to someone right at the rim and

1313
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 5: it's perfect, it's on point, people say why didn't you

1314
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 5: shoot that? Then? Man, you get three points, you know,

1315
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 5: so people can put it very very close, but to

1316
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 5: actually then shoot it, it's still very difficult. So I

1317
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 5: can't imagine too many coaches going, let's run the three

1318
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 5: court of court bomb for someone here, you know, yeah,

1319
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 5: because little Yeah, I mean he was joking about it

1320
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 5: the other day. I mean, can you imagine a coach

1321
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 5: if a player just decided to pull up from half

1322
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 5: court and start bombing away.

1323
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 4: See, I think it could happen. Imagine you're in a

1324
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 4: two for one scenario. You can try and get a

1325
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 4: twenty seven footer, but why not just take a forty

1326
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 4: five footer? If you're good enough shooter, it's gonna happen eventually.

1327
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 4: I mean, you would never thought the guys are gonna

1328
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 4: be pulling multiple shots from logos during a game. Ten

1329
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 4: years ago. Nobody would have thought that. But it started

1330
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 4: with Steph Curry. Damian Lillard does it now. But it's

1331
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 4: even guys who you're never thinking about. Chandler Parsons was

1332
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 4: an early deep shooter. He was stationed a couple of

1333
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 4: steps outside of the three point line. Ryan Anderson as well.

1334
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 4: These are big guys, so they got the strength to

1335
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:24,439
Speaker 4: get it there. But sooner or later it's gonna happen.

1336
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 4: I mean, a good shot will be a good shot

1337
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 4: if you can make it. So I don't know, if

1338
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 4: you got thirty seconds left, let it fly, you're gonna

1339
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 4: be back in good position for defense.

1340
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 5: Anyways.

1341
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 1: I mean, we'll really get to that. If the NBA

1342
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 1: were to add like a four point line, oh for sure,

1343
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 1: a five point line over half like whatever, If that

1344
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 1: the value of that shot actually went up, then oh

1345
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 1: my god, one hundred percent. But yeah, until then, I mean,

1346
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 1: it's still it really is sort of comes down to, well,

1347
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:51,439
Speaker 1: your chances are still gonna be better five more feet

1348
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 1: closer to the rim. So are we talking forty feet

1349
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 1: to thirty five feet? I mean, or thirty five feet

1350
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 1: then to thirty feet then whatever you're you're always you're

1351
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:00,479
Speaker 1: always gonna help you chances of hitting it a little

1352
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 1: closer you are. But look, it's it's pretty wild these

1353
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 1: guys do. They definitely pull up naturally. It's it's they're

1354
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:08,920
Speaker 1: not forcing it. They're not like chucking it like you

1355
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 1: or I would. You know, it's it's a shot for them,

1356
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 1: It really is, Which is the crazy part. That's strength part.

1357
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 4: I guess, well, and look at Lebron like every game

1358
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 4: we see. It's sort of the least point we see

1359
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 4: Lebron almost every game. Get a rebound underneath the opposite

1360
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 4: side of the hoop and chuck the ball eighty feet

1361
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 4: down the court to within two feet of Anthony Davis

1362
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 4: standing right underneath the hoop. You don't think with a

1363
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:30,479
Speaker 4: little bit of practice, guys are strong enough to shoot

1364
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 4: it from forty feet?

1365
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 3: For sure they are.

1366
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's look a big difference between putting

1367
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 1: it in a two foot radius to a guy who

1368
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 1: can also move around to catch it than putting it

1369
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 1: in the little tiny hoop and you're the window. Yeah,

1370
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 1: what do you think that's?

1371
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 2: I think I mean regular part of guys games? I think, yeah, Like,

1372
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 2: what does regularly mean? How many guys? How many times

1373
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 2: are they shooting a game? I think I think a

1374
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 2: time or two. Yeah, I think guys can do that.

1375
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know if it's like Trey said

1376
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:04,560
Speaker 2: about the two for one. Sure I don't. I don't

1377
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 2: see why not. But how much in a half court set?

1378
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 2: Like I think I think everybody will have it in

1379
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 2: their quote unquote back like more regular Yeah, yeah, logo,

1380
01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 2: A guy a guy per team. Maybe, I don't know

1381
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:19,840
Speaker 2: how many guys per team, how many guys in their bag?

1382
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1383
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:22,439
Speaker 1: And the whole thing with driving a golf ball. Wait,

1384
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 1: has that only? Like, so are people driving the golf

1385
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 1: ball further than normal than thirty years ago forty two?

1386
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 1: I imagine the answer is yes, probably without checking, I'm

1387
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 1: sure it's yes. But how much of that is a

1388
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:34,919
Speaker 1: part of the technology.

1389
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 5: The club?

1390
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the club and the wall. Yeah, compared to

1391
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 1: what was going on four years ago, I don't.

1392
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 5: Know, right, You gotta same with tennis rackets as well,

1393
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 5: the path I get because I didn't have wooden rackets anymore.

1394
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 2: Right, just just like you and your marathon running skits,

1395
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 2: the shoes.

1396
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 1: That's all right? Yeah, the vapor flies, oh controversial, right,

1397
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 1: give me that energy right back into it. Yeah, they

1398
01:01:57,880 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 1: like are they're gonna at some point You're right, that

1399
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 1: is actually interesting comparison with the technology. At some point

1400
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 1: you they have to be like, okay, well that's enough,

1401
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 1: Like like what we're gonna literally put you like little

1402
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:11,480
Speaker 1: wheels on that you can just like cruise on them.

1403
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 1: You know, at some point you gotta call the you know,

1404
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 1: sort of make the line.

1405
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:15,920
Speaker 5: But that's up running.

1406
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 1: If that happened, little jets on the back, Yeah, it'd

1407
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 1: be fun.

1408
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 2: This controversy actually is making me want to watch the

1409
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 2: marathon at the twenty twenty Olympics.

1410
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 1: Oh, come on, let's go out. Let's go out. Here

1411
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 1: in Atlanta is the Olympic trials, so we got to

1412
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah soon, Yeah, let's go watch it. It's very soon. Actually,

1413
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:34,800
Speaker 1: you're right, it's it's right around the corner.

1414
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:37,880
Speaker 2: Speaking of the twenty twenty Olympic shun and you talked

1415
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 2: about gymnastics. Have you seen Simone bios new trick. Yes,

1416
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is. I don't call it.

1417
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 2: It's a vault. It's on the vault. But it's like,

1418
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 2: you know, the issue flipping five times four and a

1419
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 2: half six. I can't tell.

1420
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 1: I have never Okay, I'm glad you bring that up.

1421
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 1: I've never been able to tell. Be it gymnastics, skateboarders.

1422
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 2: Divers, figure skate How the hell do.

1423
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 1: Judges like actually keep track of what they're doing?

1424
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:10,760
Speaker 5: They don't like I think we do.

1425
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 1: Is a triple? Is it a claw? Is it five?

1426
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 1: Did they do this? Did they talk? I mean, I

1427
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 1: guess you're just an expert in that field and you

1428
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 1: can immediately see it. But like I have tried to

1429
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 1: figure out, especially with skateboarding and like snowboarding at the Olympics,

1430
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 1: I was like, just looked, it looked cool, it looked amazing.

1431
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 1: But I can't tell you there was a difference between

1432
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:30,439
Speaker 1: two of those, but apparently there are. Yeah.

1433
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 4: I have a feeling there's like a like a preclearance

1434
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 4: sort of scenario here where you're kind of telling the

1435
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 4: judges here's what I'm going to be doing this trick,

1436
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 4: watch and see if I do it, because it always

1437
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:42,560
Speaker 4: feels like, you know, at least in the figure skating world,

1438
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:44,960
Speaker 4: they're like, on this routine, you're gonna see the triple LUTs.

1439
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:46,480
Speaker 3: So they haven't planned out.

1440
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 4: So I imagine that the judges have some sort of

1441
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 4: access to that, so they're like, Okay, now I got

1442
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 4: to be watching. How many spins was that?

1443
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 1: Yeah? But my point is like if Pooci says I'm

1444
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 1: going to do a ten eighty on this cool halfpipe,

1445
01:03:57,480 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 1: I'm watching it going I mean, he only went three

1446
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 1: of us, Like, I guess I'm being able to pick

1447
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 1: that up. But there's no way. As as a casual fan,

1448
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:06,240
Speaker 1: I can I can pick that up at all?

1449
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:07,160
Speaker 3: There's no way.

1450
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 2: I totally agree.

1451
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1452
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:11,440
Speaker 1: Sorry, you got me thinking of that though with that Biles,

1453
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 1: because I saw it and I'm like, oh my god,

1454
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:15,440
Speaker 1: that was incredible and I'm like, wait, was it? Does

1455
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 1: she always do that? Or no, that's something new.

1456
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 6: I don't know what's new in vault technology, that's the question.

1457
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 1: Geez. Yeah, it's probably the vapor fly carbon plates are.

1458
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:29,000
Speaker 2: In the vault now, okay, last email here. I know Dunkers.

1459
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 2: I had the privilege of participating in the first in

1460
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 2: the nation Democratic caucuses Monday in Iowa. During it, I

1461
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 2: told a joke until it died. At the start of

1462
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 2: the caucus, people counted off by ones to get a

1463
01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 2: total number of possible voters. When the person next to

1464
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:46,680
Speaker 2: me said sixty nine, I yelled out nice and got

1465
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:49,120
Speaker 2: quite a few chuckles. Later in the evening, we counted

1466
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 2: off again to see if the candidate of our choosing

1467
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 2: was viable. When another person said sixty nine, I yelled

1468
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 2: out nice once again. This time I was joined by

1469
01:04:56,440 --> 01:05:00,040
Speaker 2: several others saying nice. Laughter all around. During the the

1470
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:01,920
Speaker 2: last realignment of the night, we had to count off

1471
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:04,360
Speaker 2: again when one person said sixty nine. I held out

1472
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 2: nice once again. This time no laughs, not even a chuckle.

1473
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 2: My question is when have you ever told the joke

1474
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 2: repeatedly until it died? Former tweet of the weak Army member,

1475
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 2: Well he's sort of dead as well, Sean Sean who

1476
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:25,640
Speaker 2: dat chuck from Iowa City. Thank Sean for the great

1477
01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:26,920
Speaker 2: email at the caucus.

1478
01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:28,760
Speaker 6: Well that explains the debacle.

1479
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, we can't keep track and so get yelling out nice. Uh,

1480
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 1: I mean the truth is that, well, yeah is it?

1481
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:43,320
Speaker 1: I don't know. I do this with every joke. Yeah,

1482
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 1: running into the ground, you know one that came to

1483
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:47,600
Speaker 1: mind though, that I used to do all the time

1484
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 1: on this podcast, and I feel like I don't do anymore.

1485
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 1: Anytime tasks would mention getting married or like Danny or

1486
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 1: something like that, I'd always be like, I don't know

1487
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 1: how it started. I'd be like you're married, and you'd

1488
01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:00,360
Speaker 1: be like, yeah, like congrats, you know, like we played

1489
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 1: it up, like I was finding out for the first

1490
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 1: time that you were always just got married.

1491
01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 6: One had a good long life that wouldn't.

1492
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:08,880
Speaker 1: Lasted a long time. But I've stopped doing it. I'm

1493
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:11,760
Speaker 1: bringing it back nice. I like that too.

1494
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 4: Because mine's one that tasks sometimes brings back. I used

1495
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 4: to say bag of beans all the time, and now

1496
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:20,720
Speaker 4: you never hear it. Unfortunately until trade season, when tass

1497
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 4: will mention, yeah, maybe they'll trade them for a bag

1498
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:22,720
Speaker 4: of beans.

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01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:26,040
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, oh, my heart, my heart.

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01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:28,040
Speaker 4: So I hope we see some minor trades in the

1501
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 4: next couple of days to get get the beans flowing.

1502
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:34,120
Speaker 5: Last summer, I traveled a lot until I caught up

1503
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:35,919
Speaker 5: with some friends and family hadn't seen for a while.

1504
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:38,400
Speaker 5: So it gives me a great opportunity to work My

1505
01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 5: favorite joke in when you see people and you haven't

1506
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 5: seen for a couple of years and they say, you

1507
01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:45,320
Speaker 5: go to a bar, so what are you having? I said, no, no,

1508
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 5: I don't drink anymore. They look at you, funny, I

1509
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 5: didn't drink any leslie. They go and get me again.

1510
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 5: That's you gotta be careful that you can't work it.

1511
01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:58,439
Speaker 5: I'm the same person two nights in a row because

1512
01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 5: they're on to you. So woking to a bar like

1513
01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:05,320
Speaker 5: work these choke around. Oh I did it on him,

1514
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:07,240
Speaker 5: but not on him, So what do I do. It's

1515
01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:09,840
Speaker 5: a tough one. It's great, it's great. I love it.

1516
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:10,400
Speaker 5: I love it.

1517
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:13,920
Speaker 2: J do you go on?

1518
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:18,720
Speaker 6: You know, well, it's it's we're at peak sixty nine

1519
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:20,640
Speaker 6: joke in my house because I have a thirteen year

1520
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 6: old so literally anytime that sixty nine comes up, he

1521
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 6: has to point it out. And it's always funny. It's

1522
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:32,080
Speaker 6: always funny. So Sean, keep doing what you're doing. Democracy

1523
01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:32,640
Speaker 6: be damn.

1524
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:37,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, you would have chuckled at that third sixty nine.

1525
01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:40,120
Speaker 2: So what you're saying, of course say of course, of

1526
01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:43,000
Speaker 2: course I don't have a good one. I mean I

1527
01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:46,480
Speaker 2: definitely do the same. I definitely tell a joke until

1528
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:50,000
Speaker 2: it's dead as many times as possible. Nothing really ringing

1529
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:50,480
Speaker 2: in my head.

1530
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 3: I was.

1531
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 2: I was trying to make a conversation out of Tim

1532
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:57,960
Speaker 2: Hortons though. One time, a long time ago, walking trying

1533
01:07:57,960 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 2: to make a conversation with a young lady, was late

1534
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:01,840
Speaker 2: at night, and I said she was eating a bagel.

1535
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:12,240
Speaker 2: I said that bagel's life is pretty crummy. Huh, all right, nothing,

1536
01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:14,440
Speaker 2: It died right there for.

1537
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:17,960
Speaker 1: Beech stepping guys. Keep those questions coming. Wow, you can't

1538
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 1: love it.

1539
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 7: Honestly, I like this set than ever. I was trying

1540
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:31,840
Speaker 7: to make conversation. Keep the questions coming.

1541
01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 1: No dunks at the Athletic dot com, tweet at us

1542
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:37,720
Speaker 1: hashtag no dunks, or at no dunks Ink. Hopefully we

1543
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:40,520
Speaker 1: get some more trays. We'll see you guys on Thursday.

1544
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:41,800
Speaker 3: You heard it here first.

1545
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:44,799
Speaker 6: Have a great time, turn up, love you guys awesome.

1546
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:47,400
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, and remember Lee doesn't drink anymore

1547
01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:49,920
Speaker 2: or any less.

1548
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:57,639
Speaker 1: Lea's literally out the door. Embrace the day.

1549
01:08:57,479 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 2: People every day, and you happy every minute.

1550
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:12,160
Speaker 6: It's been so long that you're the one a.

1551
01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:13,040
Speaker 7: Way for.

1552
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:29,719
Speaker 2: It's happened already. It's gonna be grivy.