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Speaker 2: Are we recording, We are recording. Thank you, mister. See.
Speaker 1: You don't drink coffee, no, sir, Never, never like me.
Speaker 3: I tried it several times, different ways, different shapes, colors, flavors, earlanging.
Speaker 1: It didn't like it, didn't like it.
Speaker 4: Never never.
Speaker 1: Never did tobacco.
Speaker 4: Yes, I did tobacco for a while.
Speaker 1: Oh does your mom.
Speaker 4: Know you have my mom name?
Speaker 1: You quit?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I quit?
Speaker 1: Uh? You never smoked.
Speaker 5: He doesn't drink coke, don't drink soda.
Speaker 4: Well, like I said, I don't drink very many, but
Speaker 4: I drink some once in a while. If we're somewhere
Speaker 4: and the water's.
Speaker 3: Bad, then I won't drink water. So but that's what
Speaker 3: I drank, mostly water.
Speaker 5: That's pretty good.
Speaker 1: So you said right before we started, you said that
Speaker 1: you used the term that I wasn't I mean, I
Speaker 1: was mildly familiar with it. I didn't know the exact context.
Speaker 1: You said your dad made stock racks id sassafras.
Speaker 4: Wood and cucumber wood.
Speaker 1: So tell us what a stock rack is.
Speaker 3: Well, a stock rack when I was growing up was
Speaker 3: hardly anybody had any stock trailers or anything. And so
Speaker 3: I grew up on the farm and Dad would build
Speaker 3: stock racks to fit his farm trucks. And you'd take
Speaker 3: you take the lumber, and he like lightweight lumber that
Speaker 3: was tough, and sasfras was one of them.
Speaker 4: Cucumber was another one.
Speaker 3: And he had saw it down and planed it out,
Speaker 3: and then he'd build a stock rat and he'd make
Speaker 3: four sections, one on each side of the bed that
Speaker 3: went in the post holes in the style of old trucks.
Speaker 3: Most trucks don't have that anymore, like a flatbed. No, no,
Speaker 3: like a bed truck, a truck with a bed. But
Speaker 3: they had the old trucks like his old sixty four
Speaker 3: ford I grew up riding around in had four had
Speaker 3: had six holes, and it had two up front behind
Speaker 3: a cab, two in the middle, and two of it
Speaker 3: back by the back tail.
Speaker 1: Game so have been like wooden like four before he
Speaker 1: would have made.
Speaker 3: I think they were like two batoos is what they were.
Speaker 3: But he made them and then he screwed the slats
Speaker 3: to it to have a high. He wanted to make
Speaker 3: the rack if it was you know.
Speaker 1: And what would he haul in there?
Speaker 3: He hauled everything that we raised out on the farm.
Speaker 3: He hauled hogs, he hauled cattle, you know, just anything
Speaker 3: that the animal we grew. That's how he hauled them
Speaker 3: to sell them, whether we took them to the stockyards
Speaker 3: or where they saw them.
Speaker 1: So we got on this subject because you asked Bear,
Speaker 1: how big a chunk of sassafras would it take to
Speaker 1: make a bow?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Do they?
Speaker 1: Are they making bows out of sassafras. I've seen some
Speaker 1: people make them out of sas fris. It's not like
Speaker 1: a real common wood to make them out of. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what I am curious about those. Cucumber wood. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like magnolia.
Speaker 4: I think it is a type of magnolia tree.
Speaker 1: Big leaf.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they got big leaves on them and cucumbers. No,
Speaker 4: that's the name of the tree though.
Speaker 1: That's that's all I carry. Is it the one that
Speaker 1: has the big old like long leaves or are we
Speaker 1: talking about.
Speaker 3: Something it's got big leaves on it. It's got big
Speaker 3: leaves on it, but it doesn't it what's the wood like?
Speaker 3: It's well, it's it's a light wood, but it's pretty
Speaker 3: tough wood. A lot of the old meal sets used
Speaker 3: to like to get it to make flat plane lumber
Speaker 3: out of and stuff that didn't.
Speaker 1: It was a big big it gets big, it gets
Speaker 1: you know big. That's not what I'm talking I'm talking
Speaker 1: about an umbrella magnolia, which is not a cute got it.
Speaker 4: Okay, they have blooms on them, the one you're talking about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the big long leaves. But okay, you're making
Speaker 1: an elmbow. Yeah, and it's kind of been our mission
Speaker 1: to degrade elm like campaign. I'm like almost done with
Speaker 1: the bow and like it is only getting worse the
Speaker 1: far into it.
Speaker 4: Yeah and more.
Speaker 1: Well, you know this is this this show is child
Speaker 1: friendly and ultimately it's Misty Nukem approved. So I can't
Speaker 1: say the word that people call that tree, but I
Speaker 1: will spell it. They call them p I S S elms. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I see, Yeah, I haven't heard say that in school.
Speaker 1: Can we well comb mm hmm so anyway, it's not
Speaker 1: a good tree. It's I mean, it makes a halfway
Speaker 1: decent bow, but it is just the most difficult wood
Speaker 1: to work with. I've been trying to heat the top
Speaker 1: limb into just like being straight for the last I mean,
Speaker 1: that's what I've been doing the last four days. I
Speaker 1: mean like for hours a day, because you gotta let
Speaker 1: it sit to cool. So it takes a really long
Speaker 1: time and I'll heat it just like smoking hot, let
Speaker 1: it sit, come back like three hours later, take it
Speaker 1: out of the jig, and it'll just snap right back
Speaker 1: to where it was. Man, and I mean, Elm it is.
Speaker 1: And the other thing that I don't understand about it
Speaker 1: is I had this like perfect tailor on it, like
Speaker 1: the limbs bended like perfectly even, and then I just
Speaker 1: put a little bit of recurve in it, and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, the top limb is like totally flat
Speaker 1: and the bottom limb is like real flexible. So that
Speaker 1: was probably on my end, but I'm gonna blame it
Speaker 1: on the ELM. Yeah might as well.
Speaker 4: Wood.
Speaker 1: It's a pretty pretty good topic to start off a
Speaker 1: bear greash render about, yep, So welcome to the beargeras render.
Speaker 1: We've got uh doctor, mister newcom here today. Pretty glad
Speaker 1: to see you. We got Mo Shepherd. Mo longtime friend
Speaker 1: of mine, biggest hillbilly I know. And so that's why
Speaker 1: he's you didn't know, Well, now now I actually learned
Speaker 1: a minute ago. You were. You were in the eighties.
Speaker 1: Tell me the story about your potential profession.
Speaker 3: Yeah, when I was twenty, in my early twenties. I
Speaker 3: don't remember the exact age, but it was in the
Speaker 3: early eighties. I had the opportunity. At the time, I
Speaker 3: was working with the US for Service, and I had
Speaker 3: the opportunity to to expand my career because I helped
Speaker 3: some game ball just with the Gaming Fish do some
Speaker 3: bear study on a bear den and stuff. And when
Speaker 3: we got through then I kind of became friends with
Speaker 3: her and they said you'd be good at this type
Speaker 3: of stuff. I said, work this kind of stuff. They
Speaker 3: working with the game Fish said you are to think
Speaker 3: about being a warden, and it got me interested. So
Speaker 3: I went through the whole process of.
Speaker 4: Doing it.
Speaker 3: I got in the process, I got letters of recommendation
Speaker 3: sent in for me, I got the paperwork all done,
Speaker 3: and I was accepted and I was supposed to go
Speaker 3: to the Mayflower Academy down in Arkansas down here to start.
Speaker 4: The police part of it, the candy part of law
Speaker 4: enforcement part of it.
Speaker 3: I was around two weeks of it and I got
Speaker 3: a call from the Game and Fish and they said,
Speaker 3: we've got bad news for you. And I said what
Speaker 3: And they said, well, said, our governor has just issue.
Speaker 4: To deal and he says that we was Bill Clinton?
Speaker 4: Who was Bill Clinton? And he said we will have it.
Speaker 3: Nobody working as a game warden or biologist or anything
Speaker 3: through the Game and Fish that doesn't have a four.
Speaker 4: Year college degree and I didn't have. I have a
Speaker 4: remotech degree. So that put a stop to it, and
Speaker 4: I never pursued it any far weak.
Speaker 1: All that Hill Billy prejudiced, as as doctor Brooks Levin
Speaker 1: said that part of you know, having a regional dialect,
Speaker 1: and specifically the dialect of the ozark and Appalachians typically
Speaker 1: is associated with lack of education. So here we have
Speaker 1: a man fully qualified that can't get a job after
Speaker 1: he applied for it to Bill the number one he'll
Speaker 1: Billy man, I told, I said, I don't know if
Speaker 1: me and you would could have been friends, if you'd
Speaker 1: have been a game Morton, it was a joke. We laughed.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we laughed about it.
Speaker 1: It was funny the first time said it Mo. Good
Speaker 1: to see it. Thanks for that was good. That was good.
Speaker 1: We've got Josh Spilmaker, who was on the Bear Grease
Speaker 1: podcast my crowning moment, yeah, account as a feature guest,
Speaker 1: and Bear John Newcomb also my debut on the Official
Speaker 1: Bear Was it for real?
Speaker 2: Hey?
Speaker 1: I never I've never been on the main podcast.
Speaker 4: He's been on several renders they hurt the most.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, now most been on there so many times
Speaker 1: he can't even count.
Speaker 4: I've only got fingers.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then we have Colby morehead of Bear Hunting Magazine,
Speaker 1: just so everybody knows a little bit of the backstory.
Speaker 1: I you know, it's only been four years, I guess
Speaker 1: since I was. I did Bear Hunting Magazine for for
Speaker 1: an eight year period and Kolbe worked for me. Moved
Speaker 1: up from Texas to Arkansas, and long before I had
Speaker 1: any knowledge of that I was gonna be working for
Speaker 1: Meat Eater. Kobe worked for Bear Hunting Magazine, and then
Speaker 1: when I left and went to Meat Eater, Colby completely
Speaker 1: took over the magazine. It's his business. So you've been
Speaker 1: running it now for three years years? Yeah, three years,
Speaker 1: wasn't it. Yeah, I turned to a dog kennel. I
Speaker 1: think that was my idea, the dog kentle Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: it turned out nice though.
Speaker 4: Look out, well Bear Hunt magazine is doing now.
Speaker 1: It's doing great. Yeah yeah, yeah under.
Speaker 5: The leadership, especially the last three years.
Speaker 6: It was crazy. I bought the magazine and I got
Speaker 6: married a week and a half later. Like big just
Speaker 6: kicked on all the changes.
Speaker 1: Picked up on it. Hey show us that bear, so
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna score a bear real quick. So
Speaker 1: this bear was a big bear. Yeah, you weren't able
Speaker 1: to weigh.
Speaker 6: We had to pack it out. But oh it was well.
Speaker 6: I was guessing four fifty. But after seeing a bear
Speaker 6: I got in Saskatchewan this year, he was a lot
Speaker 6: bigger than that one. Like the one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we need, uh, we need something to set this up,
Speaker 4: that saskatchwe bear.
Speaker 1: Wait, we'll put it on the saddle. We'll put it
Speaker 1: on the saddle. So when you score a bear, you're
Speaker 1: you're getting h You're getting you're getting two measurements. You're
Speaker 1: you're measuring the longest distance between the this occipital bone
Speaker 1: and then the usually the front teeth, Like if the
Speaker 1: bear didn't have teeth, you would just measure whatever's the
Speaker 1: furthest out front. So you're taking that measurement, and then
Speaker 1: you're measuring in between what they call the zygomatic arches.
Speaker 1: So it's just two measurements. And now what the reason
Speaker 1: we got I got interested in scoring this bear is
Speaker 1: that this was a huge bear. And I would if
Speaker 1: you'd have said cloud killed at four and fifty pounds bear,
Speaker 1: I would have said guaranteed over nineteen. Yeah, and we'll see.
Speaker 1: So this is what they use at Boon and Crockett
Speaker 1: to caliper measure bears. They also have a bear box
Speaker 1: that's actually better than these. Is that a Kansas bear? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I put it right. Get that stretched out for me, Kobe,
Speaker 1: so we can So we're we're we're just measuring the bear.
Speaker 1: I've got these big calipers and I'm getting them measured,
Speaker 1: getting them for those in the audience here.
Speaker 4: He's using calipers and then using an old war out
Speaker 4: tape measures.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Okay, we're gonna call that the length. So
Speaker 1: remember this number. We're gonna go by sixteenths, So it's
Speaker 1: eleven and oh goodness, gracious tough man, three little marks,
Speaker 1: eight ten, six, ten, sixteenths. And you don't you don't
Speaker 1: reduce the fraction? Am I? Right? Coby? Is that eleven
Speaker 1: and ten sixteen? I think so it's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven,
Speaker 1: eight nine ten. We're gonna call it eleven, eleven and
Speaker 1: eleven sixteenths. Okay. And then on the zygomatic arch bear skulls,
Speaker 1: there's there's a big debate in the bear scoring world
Speaker 1: of do bear skulls get bigger as a bear gets bigger?
Speaker 1: You know, like they definitely grow, like it takes them
Speaker 1: a long time to mature. But I've never found an
Speaker 1: academic source or just somebody that really knew that wasn't anecdotal.
Speaker 1: Like I've got an opinion, but I have nothing to
Speaker 1: back it. But like I think, once they get about
Speaker 1: six years old, the skull doesn't really get any bigger.
Speaker 1: It would be like does your head get bigger after
Speaker 1: you're twenty five years old? Like does your face get bigger?
Speaker 6: My forehead?
Speaker 1: So is your head gotten bigger?
Speaker 2: Big?
Speaker 1: Are you?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Because all the big bucks.
Speaker 4: You've killed or a big bears and everything.
Speaker 1: Okay, I thought for a minute, you're being serious, It's like,
Speaker 1: really your hat size has changed. Okay, there's the zygomatic
Speaker 1: arches because you might kill a really old bear. We're
Speaker 1: gonna call that six in eight sixteenths.
Speaker 4: So do the math eighteen and eleven and ten eight?
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 1: Really?
Speaker 4: That's just what I went through my head. See how
Speaker 4: close I was it was?
Speaker 1: It was what it was eleven and eleven sixteenths plus
Speaker 1: eight five eight, but I think it eight eighteen I
Speaker 1: think be eight and the a little over that eighteen?
Speaker 2: What was what was the second measurement?
Speaker 1: What was six eight sixteenths? Wait a minute, calculator. So wow,
Speaker 1: we're just like, I think this is rivating podcast material
Speaker 1: for all you adiout that sixteen eighteen and three sixteenth Okay,
Speaker 1: So that really surprises me. I think that that was
Speaker 1: a I mean a mature board. It's not like a juvenile,
Speaker 1: but not a real old one young and it didn't
Speaker 1: have a big skull and a lot of times too,
Speaker 1: we've not got the tooth age back on the spare,
Speaker 1: but the a unger bear has a real slick skull,
Speaker 1: and one that is older just has a lot of
Speaker 1: a lot of like it almost looks like a coral
Speaker 1: reef on its head. And yeah, it's got.
Speaker 5: Kind of like what it looks like inside.
Speaker 1: Sinuses. At least that's wild, that's cool.
Speaker 6: It was the bear that I'm working three.
Speaker 1: Sixteenths okay, eighteen three sixteen.
Speaker 2: Sharp on the top.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that he's nineteen a marker of some.
Speaker 1: Agent young and twenty good question. And twenty is the
Speaker 1: minimum for Boone and Crockett. Twenty one is the minimum
Speaker 1: for all time. So Boone and Crockett has when you
Speaker 1: hear somebody say that's a Boon and Crockett deer, that's
Speaker 1: a Boon and Crockett bear. That the story is actually
Speaker 1: a little bit more complex than that because Boone Crockett
Speaker 1: has two record books. They have the three year record Book,
Speaker 1: which the minimum is lower, and that means every three
Speaker 1: years they make a record book, they print a book.
Speaker 1: I've got one in here somewhere, and if you kill
Speaker 1: a bear over twenty inches during that three year period,
Speaker 1: your name will appear in the record books. Those who
Speaker 1: kill a bear that scores twenty one is in the
Speaker 1: all time record books, which means if you had killed
Speaker 1: a bear in the nineteen nineties that scored over twenty
Speaker 1: one inches, which would have just really been something. It
Speaker 1: would it would remain in every single record book. So
Speaker 1: I killed a bear in twenty fifteen that scored twenty
Speaker 1: and eight sixteenths. It was in that one book, but
Speaker 1: it won't be in all the rest of them. Does
Speaker 1: that make sense? So every animal, every Boon and Crockett animal,
Speaker 1: actually has a all time record and the minimum Boon
Speaker 1: and Crockett entry. And so you hear people throw around
Speaker 1: all the time one hundred and seventy inch typical white
Speaker 1: tail as a Boon and Crockett like guys constantly say, oh,
Speaker 1: that's a booner. One seventy. Actually one sixty is a
Speaker 1: booner because one sixty gets you in the three year
Speaker 1: period record book. But but but one seventy is what
Speaker 1: people picked up. Yeah, yes, and and with with white
Speaker 1: tailed deer. And this is another thing that you know,
Speaker 1: it's just like things change in the in kind of
Speaker 1: like the working vocabulary of all this stuff is that
Speaker 1: the Boon and Crockett like you might kill a non
Speaker 1: typical buck that scored one seventy and you'd be like, man,
Speaker 1: I killed a booner. People would say that like NonStop
Speaker 1: but the Boon and Crockett minimum for a non typical
Speaker 1: is actually I'm pretty sure it's one eighty five. It's
Speaker 1: been a long time since I've even looked at it.
Speaker 1: I thought, is it one five? Probably, you're right, I
Speaker 1: think in the in the that's all time. I think
Speaker 1: the other one is one eighty five. The other entry anyway,
Speaker 1: where you wild the Boon.
Speaker 5: And Crockett deer, No, no, no, no Boot and Crockett,
Speaker 5: No boot Crockett anything.
Speaker 1: The only the only animal I ever killed that scored
Speaker 1: Boon and Crocket minimum was a bear.
Speaker 5: So you have killed a boot and Crocket bear. I
Speaker 5: have minimum, but not all.
Speaker 1: Time twenty and eight sixteens.
Speaker 2: You would have needed twenty one to be able. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's a big bear.
Speaker 1: That's you could You could kill one hundred bears and
Speaker 1: not kill a boot and Crocket bear. Have you ever
Speaker 1: killed one over? You've killed one over?
Speaker 4: Twenty had No, That's why I was telling you.
Speaker 3: I've killed eleven bears and my base one was nineteen
Speaker 3: and fourteen sixteens.
Speaker 4: Yeah, to be precise on the measurement.
Speaker 1: So yeah, there's something about those high nineteens that I mean,
Speaker 1: that's a big bear. High in nineteens, and it's it's
Speaker 1: like when you get one over twenty, like you've got
Speaker 1: a big one anywhere in the any anywhere in the country.
Speaker 2: Booon and Crockett Brown trouts thirty inches.
Speaker 1: Brown is such a real thing. No, No, is there
Speaker 1: a scoring system for fish. No, And if there was,
Speaker 1: we wouldn't.
Speaker 6: Talk to you.
Speaker 1: It would just be way too boring.
Speaker 4: Poundage kind of like if you're overweight. So yeah, yeah, yep, yep.
Speaker 1: Well, uh so this week's episode was quite a bit different,
Speaker 1: quite a bit different. Were you surprised when you heard it?
Speaker 1: Crank up?
Speaker 2: Mo?
Speaker 1: Could you? Did you pick up that? Like, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: real quickly?
Speaker 5: Then?
Speaker 3: It was totally different from most anything that you had
Speaker 3: put out on the Bearers podcast.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, that makes sense kind of what we
Speaker 1: were doing though. Yeah, Like it was kind of like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be fun.
Speaker 6: Yeah, especially after the office references.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I was looking missing.
Speaker 1: I was proud of me. Yeah, I was mixing. You're
Speaker 1: mixing a lot online reality with like reality, so probably
Speaker 1: people are like really confused. Yeah, I actually know. Robert Morgan,
Speaker 1: the famous Boon biographer who actually is a professor at
Speaker 1: Cornell uh huh who. When I was with him, was
Speaker 1: very tempted to ask him if he knew and Bernard,
Speaker 1: which I think would.
Speaker 2: If he would have caught the reference at all.
Speaker 1: No, I don't think he would have, and I don't
Speaker 1: know he Maybe he may have been more like pop
Speaker 1: culture savvy than I thought, but I don't think so.
Speaker 1: Robert Morgan is pretty pretty He's pretty pretty dialed into
Speaker 1: what he does.
Speaker 2: I thought it was great. I really enjoyed it. I
Speaker 2: felt felt like it was I had the right amount
Speaker 2: of of content that was educational, but at the same
Speaker 2: time it was it was a pretty fun episode.
Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah, I don't think Cornell is going to be
Speaker 6: really sought after as a destination school now.
Speaker 1: I like, hey, Bear, Grease, don't mention our name anymore.
Speaker 6: They were a little rough on guy from Wisconsin Chester.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: I can't get off this this uh, this Office reference.
Speaker 1: I wonder if there you know, there's conspiracy theories about
Speaker 1: how all the underground channels of like big business, big government,
Speaker 1: Hollywood works. If I would have been the maker of
Speaker 1: the Office, I would have put out a bid to
Speaker 1: schools across the country and say we're going to use
Speaker 1: this the name of this school for the next ten
Speaker 1: years and ten seasons.
Speaker 2: That's right because there is no bad publicity. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's still publicity.
Speaker 1: Oh. I wouldn't even know what Cornell was if it
Speaker 1: wasn't for.
Speaker 5: The office was thinking. I don't think when they filmed
Speaker 5: that originally that the thought was this is going to
Speaker 5: be a huge success that can go on for ten seasons.
Speaker 5: I don't think that that was the the mindset. I
Speaker 5: do not think.
Speaker 1: Well, the reason I bring it up is, uh, I'm
Speaker 1: now putting out a bid for a fictitious college that
Speaker 1: we're going to use in all Burgers episodes.
Speaker 5: I think what you really want to do is put
Speaker 5: out a bid for it. Honorary doctorate.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, the first school to give you an honorary
Speaker 7: doctorate will be there what you're looking for.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure we'll have too many bites on that,
Speaker 1: but uh.
Speaker 5: Maybe, well shoot, I wish I wish rich Mountain. If
Speaker 5: there's a like I would like for it to be
Speaker 5: like uh.
Speaker 1: You know, I mean, for sure the Arkansas Razorbacks will
Speaker 1: be like number one pick, but it could be like
Speaker 1: the West Virginia Mountaineers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I was in Bozeman, Montana last week,
Speaker 2: and I talked to a bunch of students from Montana
Speaker 2: State University, the Bobcats. They've got it going on there,
Speaker 2: those guys.
Speaker 5: Really.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Well, we talked to school pride.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Surprisingly, they've got a pretty good football team.
Speaker 5: Coach.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know the answer to that,
Speaker 2: but we had a couple of young young ladies, students
Speaker 2: like trying to recruit our eighteen year old daughter to
Speaker 2: go to school there and be a be a ski instructor. Also,
Speaker 2: oh wow, yeah, but a lot of school probably they
Speaker 2: were really proud of their school.
Speaker 1: M hmm. Well, this is Brooks Blevins was on. In
Speaker 1: the first three or four Beargrease podcast, Brooks Blevins was
Speaker 1: on it. He was on the Death of a Bear
Speaker 1: Hunter podcast, which was which was really great. And since
Speaker 1: that time, Brooks has been on multiple times on bear
Speaker 1: Grease and it's kind of become a hero of the
Speaker 1: Bear Grease podcast. Misty, what what I think we're past
Speaker 1: the football coach?
Speaker 5: Okay, Okay, it definitely is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I mean it definitely just moved on.
Speaker 5: You should look them up.
Speaker 1: Famous coach for the Bozeman Montesgnet for his Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: a guy with all the one liners.
Speaker 5: Yeah, urrageous things he says in press conferences. And I
Speaker 5: almost had it. I was almost there and I got
Speaker 5: called out getting in class for this is the kind
Speaker 5: of suffactually happened to me all the time. I would
Speaker 5: get interested by something someone would say, and I would
Speaker 5: kind of go on a tangent with that, and then
Speaker 5: I would get called out. I don't like it when
Speaker 5: people do that. I don't like it when professors realize
Speaker 5: that you're not paying attention and then call you out
Speaker 5: to make you feel them. And it's like, and I
Speaker 5: know i'd do it too to students, like just to
Speaker 5: get there, I'd like to do to me when you
Speaker 5: were sleeping in my class.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Wow, Wow, this is getting a little
Speaker 1: too real here. Person will have a conversation afterwards.
Speaker 5: About I don't know that Bear ever actually slept in class,
Speaker 5: but he definitely, definitely sometimes would turn it. You knew
Speaker 5: if you had Bear's attention or not. If you didn't,
Speaker 5: he would be like a total space cadet, staring out
Speaker 5: the window like not even.
Speaker 2: Your dreaming of the outdoors.
Speaker 5: He probably was and I would say, hey, Bear, what
Speaker 5: do you think about that? He'd be like, he wouldn't
Speaker 5: even lie, he'd just be like, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I did that all the time when I was in school.
Speaker 4: And look at me now, look at Mo.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: If I could turn out like Mo, i'd be pretty.
Speaker 5: You'd be good, You'd be good. M m hmm.
Speaker 1: Okay, who what what what stood out to you in
Speaker 1: the podcast? Bear you go first?
Speaker 6: Like what?
Speaker 1: Just what part of it stood out? The biggest thing,
Speaker 1: The thing that I thought was most interesting was what
Speaker 1: he said at the beginning about how like our dialect
Speaker 1: and the way that we talk is influenced by like
Speaker 1: the media and the things that we consume. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: would have never really thought about that, but I mean,
Speaker 1: like it, you know, like just yeah, it makes sense
Speaker 1: just that like if you the people who are kind
Speaker 1: of like, you know, isolated from any of that will
Speaker 1: still have like really strong dialect and accents and stuff,
Speaker 1: but like now it's kind of becoming a little more neutralized,
Speaker 1: just because we all watched the same stuff here, the
Speaker 1: same voices. Yeah, but I thought that was one really
Speaker 1: interesting point. The other one I learned a lot of
Speaker 1: stuff that a lot of things that I say that
Speaker 1: I didn't really realize were like specific to where we live,
Speaker 1: Like like stob. I thought that was just something everyone
Speaker 1: would have said, like a stob. But you know, he
Speaker 1: said that was something that was kind of specific to
Speaker 1: I didn't understand that he was he was saying the
Speaker 1: stob was was it was like a stick that you
Speaker 1: would hold, right, Yep, he used it like the He
Speaker 1: talked about the stick. But he also talked about like
Speaker 1: you Mo over Field and you have.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I guess that's a question I would have was he's
Speaker 1: saying that other people don't say that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he would that. He did say that, and he's
Speaker 5: he he mentioned Billy Bob Thornton.
Speaker 2: Now I've got some questions.
Speaker 5: Hatfield. He went to second grade in Hatfield, Hatfield, Arkansas.
Speaker 1: Let's let Bear finish his statements. Well, that was pretty much.
Speaker 1: It just that our you know, dialect is kind of
Speaker 1: becoming a little more neutralized. I think it's becoming a
Speaker 1: lot more especially when you think about like television's hit
Speaker 1: American Homes in the nineteen fifties. Probably MO is that right.
Speaker 3: I remember when I was old enough to know what
Speaker 3: a TV was. We we just got one I know,
Speaker 3: we hadn't had it very long. I remember you were
Speaker 3: born in nineteen sixties sixty, but.
Speaker 4: We lived way out in the middle of Yonder.
Speaker 5: It really did.
Speaker 1: Here's an example. Whenever we went to Tennessee, there was
Speaker 1: like it was kind of this like really small pocket
Speaker 1: that I don't think they would have really like I
Speaker 1: don't think any of them would have been on like
Speaker 1: social media and or anything. I mean, they all had
Speaker 1: televisions in their houses, but like overall, it was kind
Speaker 1: of like a somewhat isolated pocket. And their accents were
Speaker 1: like extremely thick. Yeah, and they used all sorts of
Speaker 1: different words that like like I've growing up kind of
Speaker 1: you know here in a lot of hillbilly dialect. But
Speaker 1: they were on a completely different level. They were speaking
Speaker 1: a different language just about.
Speaker 2: Where as the locals say, you ever noticed someone from
Speaker 2: Tennessee always calls the state Tennessee Tennessee Tennessee have differentis
Speaker 2: just like Chester says Wisconsin Wisconsin. They don't say. They
Speaker 2: don't say Wisconsin. It's not w I s Hyphenson. They
Speaker 2: say w I s k O n C whisk onnsen Wisconsin.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I wonder I think about the speed
Speaker 5: you know over the last in one of our classes
Speaker 5: that we talk about language and dialects, and you think
Speaker 5: about like things people used to travel by horse, and
Speaker 5: then they traveled by train, and then they traveled by car,
Speaker 5: and they traveled by plane and all of that like
Speaker 5: cuts the distance between places. The time space distances is
Speaker 5: a lot smaller. And then and you see that same
Speaker 5: trend in social media because there was the radio and
Speaker 5: that kind of introduces neutralized tone to everyone, and then
Speaker 5: there was our dialect exposed people to different dialects TV.
Speaker 5: But then with social media, I mean that's like so
Speaker 5: fast and so things things have changed. I think it
Speaker 5: would be very interesting to look at at the difference.
Speaker 5: We give the kids at school. In one of our
Speaker 5: classes where we talk about dialect, they take this test
Speaker 5: that the New York Times does and you can take
Speaker 5: it for free as long as you create an account,
Speaker 5: like a free account, but it predicts it. It shows
Speaker 5: you like a heat met No, I don't, it's and
Speaker 5: it's a f I didn't just sell it. I was
Speaker 5: to say it was free, but well, I I know
Speaker 5: that you have to log in, you have to create
Speaker 5: an account. I mean that was the reason I said
Speaker 5: that because I used to. When I first started giving
Speaker 5: it to kids, they didn't have to have an account,
Speaker 5: and now they do, but it's free.
Speaker 4: And so anyway, such thing as log in something I know, yeah,
Speaker 4: build log rounds and then made a hog ban at it.
Speaker 5: So you take this test and it tells you it
Speaker 5: predicts where you're at based off of I think twenty
Speaker 5: one words, and so one of them is, what is
Speaker 5: a what is a dark carbonated beverage? What would you
Speaker 5: call that?
Speaker 1: Coke?
Speaker 5: I would call whether it's a doctor pepper or a
Speaker 5: diet coke, I would call it a coke. And Josh,
Speaker 5: what would you call it?
Speaker 2: I used to call it a coke, and I everybody
Speaker 2: would always you know, when I would go north, they'd
Speaker 2: say coke because they call it a north. They call
Speaker 2: it a pop, right, and I call it a soda
Speaker 2: now and.
Speaker 5: Some people call it soda, so soda pop and then
Speaker 5: and then and those are your offers.
Speaker 1: What would you call it?
Speaker 7: Mo?
Speaker 4: A dark something dark like a carb like a or
Speaker 4: you call it coke?
Speaker 2: What you call it coke?
Speaker 6: A soda? Water?
Speaker 5: What would you call it? If I said, do you
Speaker 5: want to drink? And I had a lot of stuff
Speaker 5: in the in the ice chest.
Speaker 1: Or if you said you can have tea milk, or
Speaker 1: and you.
Speaker 5: Had both doctor pepper and coke, what would you say.
Speaker 4: Well, I don't like it one the a whole lot,
Speaker 4: but I'd probably say just give me a coke.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, Yeah, he answered, yeah, I mean a coke.
Speaker 1: Would mean like, well, what kind of coke do you want? Well,
Speaker 1: I want a sprout?
Speaker 4: Yeah, give me a sprout. To give me a doctor pepper.
Speaker 2: Yea of those carbonators I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Growing up, we went down the old stoic combs down
Speaker 3: there and they had the old bottles you pulled out
Speaker 3: of the machines like a nickel in there and opened
Speaker 3: the door and pulled it out. And we when we
Speaker 3: was going to go down there, if Dad took us
Speaker 3: down there, we'd say, Dad, can we get a coke
Speaker 3: while we're down there?
Speaker 4: I got an orange grave. He just told me you
Speaker 4: want to come.
Speaker 5: And that's the way. That's what we would call it
Speaker 5: as well. On the test Okay, the big the large
Speaker 5: cargo vehicles that drive on the interstate that have eighteen wheels,
Speaker 5: what would you call that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of different words.
Speaker 5: What would you call it?
Speaker 1: Well, you know what I think.
Speaker 5: Wheeler eighteen wheeler. Would you even call it a big grig?
Speaker 6: Yep?
Speaker 2: Those would be tractor trailer.
Speaker 5: Attractor trailer. So those are your options or I have
Speaker 5: no words?
Speaker 4: Always heard him called semi.
Speaker 5: Yeah, a person who defends someone? Uh? Would you who
Speaker 5: who present someone in a legal proceeding? Would you call that?
Speaker 5: Would the way you pronounced that word? Would it rhyme
Speaker 5: with saw your are toy? Would it be a lawyer
Speaker 5: or lawyer?
Speaker 2: Lawyer, lawyer?
Speaker 5: So I would I would say lawyer, lawyer, lawyer, but
Speaker 5: a lawyer. Well, if there's not an answer, it just
Speaker 5: depends on where you're from. Did you hear what Josha said?
Speaker 2: A lawyer, lawyer, lawyer?
Speaker 5: He that's lloy like soy yeah, and I say raise
Speaker 5: he was raised by Yankee?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was raised by I was raised by Yankee
Speaker 2: in the South. That's what really messed me up.
Speaker 1: So what did this reveal?
Speaker 5: Just where you were from?
Speaker 1: Like, so, what where did the students show where they
Speaker 1: were from?
Speaker 5: Well, my students are from all over, so usually it
Speaker 5: shows from all over.
Speaker 2: It was pretty accurate.
Speaker 5: It was pretty accurate. But I've noticed over the last
Speaker 5: five years a big difference. It's not as accurate as
Speaker 5: it used to be, and it's more centralized. It's it's
Speaker 5: super interesting to me, and because used to the kids
Speaker 5: that were raised in the South like that, that hit
Speaker 5: pretty hard. And I think part of it is that
Speaker 5: people are getting married from further apart, you know, so
Speaker 5: you have a mom from one state and a dad
Speaker 5: from another. People aren't living as close to their grandparents.
Speaker 5: So a lot of people would say that's right for
Speaker 5: my grandparents, that's where they grew up, and that's where
Speaker 5: my mom grew up. But I was born in Dallas
Speaker 5: and that's not how we and I have taken on
Speaker 5: the Dallas So it's kind of interesting.
Speaker 1: Brooks said that linguists believe believe that dialects are going
Speaker 1: to continue, because there's been people that have said that
Speaker 1: they're going to die out. But it's hard for me
Speaker 1: to not believe that they're going to die out because
Speaker 1: there's so much going to Yeah, yeah, it's right, because
Speaker 1: now maybe they'll just change, But like it feels like
Speaker 1: dialects are dying off just because, like Bear said, YouTube
Speaker 1: and television and podcasts, and it's not a conscious decision.
Speaker 1: Very very little of it. I think it's conscious some
Speaker 1: of it is. But you know, like when Misty asked
Speaker 1: me what I guarantee you coming out of my hometown
Speaker 1: at age eighteen, if you would have asked me what
Speaker 1: a semi truck was, I would have had one answer, yeah,
Speaker 1: just like this is what it is. And I actually
Speaker 1: can't remember now. I would just equally call it a
Speaker 1: semi truck or eighteen wheeler, you know, And I don't point,
Speaker 1: being I'm so deep into the woods now, I don't
Speaker 1: really remember exactly probably what my grandpa would have called them.
Speaker 1: I think now Moe's giving me a tip off him
Speaker 1: saying semi Probably that's probably what I would have originally said.
Speaker 4: That's all I ever heard him call when I was
Speaker 4: growing up, semis.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 5: And I wonder too about like about where he's talking about.
Speaker 5: There's not great internet coverage there, so they don't have
Speaker 5: access to just scroll all the time as easy as
Speaker 5: maybe someone who has. I think there's some parts of
Speaker 5: the world that are kind of isolated, not just geographically,
Speaker 5: but to a certain extent still from not from the
Speaker 5: Internet as a whole, but from easy access to the
Speaker 5: Internet at all times.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Internet ruins everything.
Speaker 1: Well, and you know, the truth is dialect is not.
Speaker 1: I mean, Gary Nucom. We grew up in rural Arkansas,
Speaker 1: and my dad was adamant about us having good grammar.
Speaker 1: I mean, and I'm not saying I necessarily have good grammar,
Speaker 1: but I but if we we would come home and
Speaker 1: use double negatives or say, just use what might be
Speaker 1: typical of my peers in rural Arkansas. He I mean,
Speaker 1: from the time we were first graders, he was like, nope,
Speaker 1: because he wanted us to sound more educated, you know,
Speaker 1: And yeah he did because you know, he was born
Speaker 1: in rural Arkansas, became a banker, was in the professional world.
Speaker 1: And so I think that track happens quite a bit too,
Speaker 1: where people try to kind of mask, not mask because
Speaker 1: it's not like it was a moral question of this
Speaker 1: was good or bad. But you know, he kind of
Speaker 1: shaped the way that we that we spoken said stuff.
Speaker 5: And the truth is it's really hard to change that.
Speaker 5: Like when you're from a school's perspective, we test kids
Speaker 5: on spelling, we test kids on writing, on reading, on grammar,
Speaker 5: and I'll just be honest, if your grammar, I think
Speaker 5: is one of the hardest things to change. You can.
Speaker 5: You can teach kids to do algebra. Yeah, that's not
Speaker 5: something any of them have ever heard at home. Everybody's
Speaker 5: learning that at school, and you can teach that. Grammar
Speaker 5: is really tough to change because it's the voice in
Speaker 5: their head in those however they grew up in those
Speaker 5: first five years, that's the voice in their head. And
Speaker 5: you can be extremely intelligent, but just raised in an
Speaker 5: environment that did use non typical grammatical structures and come
Speaker 5: into a school and that's just those first five years.
Speaker 5: That's when you learn language, and it's it's tough. Yeah,
Speaker 5: it can be done, but it is super cool.
Speaker 1: There were well, Josh, I'm afraid I'm gonna get into
Speaker 1: your questions.
Speaker 2: I'm afraid you are too.
Speaker 1: Okay, well let's start. Let's start, let's do let's do
Speaker 1: our trivia. Okay, get your get your trivia behind there,
Speaker 1: all right, So this is bear Grease Trivia and I'll
Speaker 1: be playing.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't feel like I'm a subject matter expert on this.
Speaker 1: It's not like Osceola where I was the one doing
Speaker 1: all this stuff. This was kind of just doctor Brevin's talking.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: So I'm in it.
Speaker 2: Okay, is everyone ready? Keep score on your board. I
Speaker 2: will be the judge, jury, and executioner of whether or
Speaker 2: not you're your answer is correct?
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: Question number one, what European region is credited with the
Speaker 2: majority of influence of the Uplands South dialect? And there's
Speaker 2: a couple of different answers. I'm willing to to take.
Speaker 2: Take the general idea.
Speaker 1: Do you know what?
Speaker 4: Okay, you think?
Speaker 2: Everybody? Everybody ready? Okay, Clay are misty. We're gonna start
Speaker 2: with you. Scotland, Ireland. Okay, mo, what do you got?
Speaker 4: I put down Norway, Norway.
Speaker 2: Bear, Scott's Irish, turn your turn, Gaelic, Clay, Ulster, Scott Scotland.
Speaker 2: That is correct. Actually the Scotch Irish or Northern Ireland
Speaker 2: is where the majority of the Upland South dialect. Now
Speaker 2: there are.
Speaker 4: That words coming from north.
Speaker 2: They talk about some words coming from that.
Speaker 1: I'm curious to see what art you come up with
Speaker 1: this time.
Speaker 2: I'm working on it, okay, which to me, I had
Speaker 2: never really thought about that. I assumed that, like the
Speaker 2: the Upland South dialect, had just been something that had
Speaker 2: evolved in America. I don't think I had ever put
Speaker 2: together that it was actually had deeper roots than.
Speaker 4: That back boat.
Speaker 1: Do you know where your family came from, like the
Speaker 1: Shepherds came from when they originally Yeah, like what country?
Speaker 1: I bet they were Scottish?
Speaker 2: I'm not sure Scottish or Irish? I mean shepherd.
Speaker 4: I think there was some some Scottish that come from overseas.
Speaker 5: And and.
Speaker 3: Who was it one of my I think was my
Speaker 3: great great grandma. Maybe she come on a boat across
Speaker 3: the ocean from Europe. But I don't know which country
Speaker 3: it was.
Speaker 1: And and I bet money, I bet money it's it's
Speaker 1: Scottish or Scottish.
Speaker 4: I know it was Europe. I just don't know which
Speaker 4: country for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I had to guess he's probably Irish based on
Speaker 1: the hair color. Maybe. Well I've said this so many times,
Speaker 1: but what's cool about Mo? There's a few things cool
Speaker 1: about Mo. I mean not that many, but uh one
Speaker 1: or one of them. One of them is that his
Speaker 1: his family homesteaded over here in the Ozarks. And uh,
Speaker 1: you know, your fifth great grandfather.
Speaker 3: My great great grandfather and his brother came up rafts
Speaker 3: up the Mississippi from Alabama, came up the Arkansas River,
Speaker 3: got on the Frog Bayou on the rafts and and
Speaker 3: the winner probably three quarters of a mile or mile
Speaker 3: from where I live at now. And then one of
Speaker 3: them settled there and in that area, which is the
Speaker 3: Frog Bayou. And then they moved on up the Frog
Speaker 3: Byo just a little ways and found a spring up
Speaker 3: there which was called Shepherd Springs, he said there. Both
Speaker 3: of them settled there for a while and got their families.
Speaker 3: And then my great great grandfather moved on up into
Speaker 3: the mountains up up what's called Shepherd Mountain now, and
Speaker 3: that's where his home up there, and that's where I
Speaker 3: was born and settled there in the late eighteen forties,
Speaker 3: early eighteen fifties. Yeah, and then he was killed during
Speaker 3: the Civil War on that mountain.
Speaker 1: Oh well, yeah, that's really cool. So you can look
Speaker 1: on a map and find Shepherd Mountain up there.
Speaker 2: Okay. Question number two, this is a question about doctor
Speaker 2: Brooks Blevins. What county in Arkansas is doctor Blevins from?
Speaker 2: This is a multiple choice.
Speaker 6: Do I get double? If I get it right.
Speaker 2: Now, you don't Ozark, Newton, Izard or Baxter.
Speaker 5: That's what I think too.
Speaker 2: We're going to start with Bear on this one.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Newton.
Speaker 2: Okay, Colby Wizard, Hazards lizardzard. The correct answer is izard County.
Speaker 5: Can we pause right there and just acknowledge that there
Speaker 5: are probably far more words than you would think that
Speaker 5: rhyme with izard gizzard lizard wizard. One night we played
Speaker 5: a school called Izard County, and I was right by
Speaker 5: doctor Blevins and we were talking about they really missed
Speaker 5: it by not naming their mascot the lizards lizards, and
Speaker 5: I was like, wizards. It's incredible. So many names came
Speaker 5: up of optional mascots.
Speaker 2: Very good. You guys did excellent on that one.
Speaker 5: Oh look at me rocking and rolling today.
Speaker 1: Question number three, maybe we could have a few more
Speaker 1: questions relevant to the actual content. Go ahead.
Speaker 2: Question number three According to doctor Blevin's what is the
Speaker 2: meaning of peculiar grammatical features? What is the meaning of
Speaker 2: that term meaning? I can't even say that peculiar grammatical features?
Speaker 1: I remember?
Speaker 4: What does that?
Speaker 2: What does that mean? Just in general? Hold on, don't
Speaker 2: don't show everybody, I mean talking about it. Okay, We're
Speaker 2: gonna start with Colby Boom big question. Mark Clay says
Speaker 2: bad grammar. Missy says bad grammar would have bad language,
Speaker 2: bad language, bad bad grammar. The correct answer is.
Speaker 4: Bad bad language kind of just gets it right.
Speaker 2: That peculiar grammatical features literally just means you have bad.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 1: Coolby What stood out to you in the podcast was anything? What?
Speaker 5: What?
Speaker 6: Uh? Since you're yeah, you know, I uh that aspect
Speaker 6: of it disappearing, like the different dialects. I was just
Speaker 6: thinking I saw something the other day where there was
Speaker 6: a mom in England and her kid has been watching
Speaker 6: like Miss Rachel the like popular kids, you know, a
Speaker 6: thing on on YouTube, and uh, her kid has an
Speaker 6: English accent, you know, like an American accent. She's like,
Speaker 6: we're in England and she sounds like an American? What's
Speaker 6: the deal? And so I was like thinking about those
Speaker 6: types of extremes, And then I thought I was pretty
Speaker 6: country like until I heard some of the stuff that
Speaker 6: he was he was saying. I was like, I've heard it,
Speaker 6: but it didn't like yeah, yeah, okay, carry on.
Speaker 2: Question number four, what word did Doctor Blevin's grandparents use
Speaker 2: for a bag or sack?
Speaker 1: I never I'd never heard this one. Did you heard it?
Speaker 6: Mo?
Speaker 4: Yes, sir?
Speaker 1: For real?
Speaker 4: Yeah? When I was growing up.
Speaker 1: Really yeah, I've never heard it before.
Speaker 6: I don't know how to spell it.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna start with the sin to be doctor Clay
Speaker 2: nukem poke, poke, misty poke, the longer poke, that's poke,
Speaker 2: like what you eat in white. I'm just kidding, mo.
Speaker 4: I think we'll get those little pigs out of the pen.
Speaker 4: We're gonna put them in a poke and carry them
Speaker 4: over in another pan.
Speaker 2: All right, poke poke, and Kolby writes the French version.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, I wouldn't contact answers poke excellent poke.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I never heard that one either. Yeah, i'd never heard it.
Speaker 2: I had heard it, but I I don't think I
Speaker 2: knew what it meant. Like i'd heard someone say put
Speaker 2: that in a poke, and I was like, I don't
Speaker 2: know if that is. I think I think my my
Speaker 2: wife's grandmother used to say that, Yeah, poke, Grandpa Oklahoma.
Speaker 6: I wouldn't say. I think. I think we've used it
Speaker 6: whenever we're shooting. It's like going to give it a poke,
Speaker 6: but different context, different poke, different poke.
Speaker 2: Okay, this is something we've talked about already. But I'll
Speaker 2: give you credit for it if you know name one
Speaker 2: of the two words that doctor Blevin's references from the
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety six movie sling Blade starring Billy Bob Thornton.
Speaker 2: There were two words that he mentioned from.
Speaker 6: The US.
Speaker 1: Moe. Uh, I'm gonna ask you as soon as we
Speaker 1: get this one, what's your what you thought, what stood
Speaker 1: out to you most? And if there's any peculiar words
Speaker 1: that you would added to doctor Blevins. But let's go
Speaker 1: ahead and do this one.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, we're gonna again. Stob yep stop stob
Speaker 2: stop stop. Anybody remember the other one that he said.
Speaker 1: I couldn't remember.
Speaker 2: When he calls, when he picks up and calls nine
Speaker 2: to one one one, he says, to send send a hearst.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's it supposed to be?
Speaker 2: It's a hearse. Hearse is a is a type of vehicle.
Speaker 2: But what we primarily use for funerals now to carry
Speaker 2: a cast. They used to be they used to be
Speaker 2: used for ambulances. And it's h E A r s
Speaker 2: E hearse. That's the actual that's the actual word. Well
Speaker 2: award hirsh hirsh. Yeah, it's he says hurst. And that's
Speaker 2: one of the things that he mentioned that I thought,
Speaker 2: if you had asked me how to.
Speaker 1: Spell that, I would have spelled it h E r
Speaker 1: s t A t r.
Speaker 4: I've always heard h A r s e is the.
Speaker 1: That I'd like to hear from somebody up up somewhere
Speaker 1: else that.
Speaker 2: Say it hearst aharset.
Speaker 5: I feel like in the Spelling Bee we were asked
Speaker 5: to spell hurst.
Speaker 8: Maybe in like the half Field Spelling Bee. Don't is
Speaker 8: anything your grandparents said that you can a r c.
Speaker 2: According to the Almighty Wikipedia, the word is h A
Speaker 2: r s.
Speaker 1: E hearset urse.
Speaker 3: I don't know really about any particular word, but there's
Speaker 3: a lot of words that I probably say that I
Speaker 3: learned from them them, like learn, learned, learned, you know.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's just this way. I know a lot
Speaker 4: of words that had tea's on the end of them
Speaker 4: that don't have t's on the end of them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, did your family say let me learn you? Or
Speaker 2: did they say let me teach you?
Speaker 4: They didn't, They didn't learn me nothing.
Speaker 5: What about cleaning your hands? How would y'all if if
Speaker 5: someone said go take care of your hands? What would
Speaker 5: they say?
Speaker 4: Go worsh up?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I expected worsh yeah. Yeah. That that would be
Speaker 1: very common were down here.
Speaker 5: That's my great grandparents.
Speaker 1: See, and that's the way that Gary wouldn't have we
Speaker 1: would have been not allowed to.
Speaker 4: Allowed to say that.
Speaker 1: But like everybody went to school with said worsh hands.
Speaker 1: One thing, uh, we were talking about. So in the
Speaker 1: Burgreas Hall of Fame, one of the original members of
Speaker 1: the Burgers Hall of Fame Hall of Fame, Aura Lee
Speaker 1: Province Moe introduced me to our years and years ago
Speaker 1: and uh, because or had killed some big deer. And
Speaker 1: in his the way I was introduced to him was
Speaker 1: his name was or or as in the same the same.
Speaker 4: Or even spelled it O r e E when he
Speaker 4: had write it down, even though.
Speaker 2: Question typically done to the name to a name the
Speaker 2: ends in a question got any that will just make
Speaker 2: that for everybody.
Speaker 1: Okay, everybody would have know that. Well, let me tell
Speaker 1: a story about or.
Speaker 5: So.
Speaker 1: His name is Aura, and uh, he he told me
Speaker 1: he uh he called Oklahoma Oklahoma. He did it actually
Speaker 1: on on the podcast podcast. He called it Oklahoma because
Speaker 1: and it's just like his name, I mean, it's the same,
Speaker 1: the same thing that he was using his name for
Speaker 1: Oklahoma Oakrey Or. Now you said you had some ants
Speaker 1: that had the last name A.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I had had two aunts.
Speaker 3: One was that they had the same name, and we
Speaker 3: called them both Edney and Edney. Ain't Edney, you know,
Speaker 3: but they were two different ants. And their names were
Speaker 3: E d n A Edna. It was Edna, but we
Speaker 3: called them aunt Edney and Edney and Edney.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know that just dawn on me.
Speaker 2: My my wife's grandmother. Her name was oma O m
Speaker 2: A and they always called.
Speaker 1: Her Omi Omi.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Uh, I remember uh had a province and she went
Speaker 1: by was Omi. I heard ori province say that he
Speaker 1: clumb a tree. Clumb clumb. Now that's a pretty good word.
Speaker 1: I've heard that because climb climb, I mean there's a
Speaker 1: difference between.
Speaker 4: Make difference in climbing and climb up something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's a good word. I clumb a tree.
Speaker 1: But I'll tell you where I heard a young man
Speaker 1: say that. Was up in central Missouri. My my, uh,
Speaker 1: my buddy, Quentin Rambo is his name? Young guy like
Speaker 1: probably yeah, his name is Quentin Rambo and uh and
Speaker 1: he he was just in average conversation. One time I
Speaker 1: heard him say something clumb the fence or clumb a tree,
Speaker 1: can't remember. And I remember being keyed in and like, really, clumb.
Speaker 2: What do you call the states?
Speaker 4: What do I call?
Speaker 7: What?
Speaker 2: What do you call the state that's just north of US?
Speaker 4: Missouri?
Speaker 2: You say Missouri?
Speaker 1: Missouri?
Speaker 2: Yeah. I hear a lot of people call it Missouri.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I just always called it Missouri Missouri because I got
Speaker 4: a lot of kin folks live up there Missouri. When
Speaker 4: they get on to me, if I don't.
Speaker 2: Say, okay, all right, what was the name doctor Blevins
Speaker 2: used for a cicada?
Speaker 1: Mmmm?
Speaker 4: Same thing I call him.
Speaker 2: I'd never heard that before.
Speaker 4: I used to catch him as a kid.
Speaker 2: All right, doctor misty jarfly?
Speaker 6: Mo?
Speaker 1: So you called them a jar fly?
Speaker 4: Everybody did? Really what a cicada was? Somebody tell us
Speaker 4: the cicadas out in the yard. We said, we better
Speaker 4: run hide.
Speaker 1: Jarfly? Now did you ever equate jarfly? Is it the
Speaker 1: noise jarred your ears?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 1: Because surprised me, because I I would have thought a
Speaker 1: jarfly meant they caught him and put him in jars.
Speaker 6: He did that with lightning bugs, we would have thought
Speaker 6: somebody was talking about if I heard it.
Speaker 2: And if you're from up north, you call them, you
Speaker 2: call them not not lightning bugs. You call them fireflies.
Speaker 2: That's a that's another word that separates.
Speaker 4: You another Yankee.
Speaker 1: Yeah, call them fireflies.
Speaker 5: To go back and forth, because I call them lightning bugs,
Speaker 5: and your dad called them fireflies and Shepherd called themirees.
Speaker 6: This kind of stuff comes up in my house all
Speaker 6: the time because my wife was born up in Montana
Speaker 6: and then was in South Dakota.
Speaker 5: And they say, and she ridicules me.
Speaker 1: What does she what does she say that you like?
Speaker 1: What's the example?
Speaker 6: Like if you go if you go to the store
Speaker 6: and you get one of the carts, what do you
Speaker 6: call it?
Speaker 1: Buggy?
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what I call it. And she ridicules me.
Speaker 6: She's like, that's a cart.
Speaker 2: She also calls a poke a bag big.
Speaker 5: We've I've actually had some real fun conversations with with
Speaker 5: her and with others where we just stare at each
Speaker 5: other and try to figure out what they're what they're saying.
Speaker 4: I may have missed it, but we was talking about
Speaker 4: something made me think of something.
Speaker 3: Then doctors talked about a lot of words ending different
Speaker 3: than Actually the ray Leys bailed and I don't remember
Speaker 3: him saying it, but as I grew up in my
Speaker 3: whole family, Harley was hardly any of us put.
Speaker 1: A G on the end of our words, right, right.
Speaker 4: But I don't remember him.
Speaker 1: Saying anything about thinking, running, hunting.
Speaker 4: Yeah, did he say anything about that?
Speaker 1: You know he didn't, He didn't, he did, Yeah, he
Speaker 1: didn't talk about dropping.
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's peculiar to the to the
Speaker 2: Ozark Appalachian. I think that that that goes for a
Speaker 2: lot of the South in general.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean to properly to say it is running
Speaker 3: or walking, but running walking, yep, walking talking?
Speaker 2: Okay, what word did President Bill Clinton using a public
Speaker 2: speech in nineteen ninety nine that caused an article to
Speaker 2: be written about it in Slate magazine. I actually looked
Speaker 2: up the article.
Speaker 5: Is How I Spell It?
Speaker 2: It was an interesting story because they there was a
Speaker 2: big debate on how it was spelled.
Speaker 5: Oh oh really, yeah, it's pretty obvious.
Speaker 2: Okay, thank. I was bumfuzzled, fled?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he was.
Speaker 2: He was talking to Congress actually, and he was talking
Speaker 2: about the American people being bum fuzzled about uh, the
Speaker 2: surplus of Social Security being used for other things in
Speaker 2: the budget, bum fuzzled, and that the big the big
Speaker 2: debate was whether or not it was a dirty word.
Speaker 2: They were like, is this a is this a profanity
Speaker 2: that he's using? Or yeah, bum fuzzled. I might never
Speaker 2: heard it. No, no one had ever heard it before.
Speaker 2: The New York Times originally spelled it h b U,
Speaker 2: m f U s s l ed, bum fuzzled.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's one of those words that I would not
Speaker 5: have known that people did not know.
Speaker 2: I mean, it seems like you should be able to
Speaker 2: pick up on it by context clues.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I honestly will known that that was like a
Speaker 1: real word. I would have thought it was just like
Speaker 1: some random thing that like you said, like, yeah, mixing words.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you asked me, it's clay wall. I just thought
Speaker 4: of one my dad used to say, and I really
Speaker 4: don't know what it actually means. It's not profanity. But
Speaker 4: he'd say something about being barnswaggled with something, barn barnswaggled.
Speaker 2: Barnes swaggled.
Speaker 4: I don't know how you would spell it. Somebody looked up.
Speaker 4: He would say that about stuff. He'd say, you know,
Speaker 4: we we got barnswaggled by that.
Speaker 3: Or I think it meant tricked, that's what I kind
Speaker 3: of think, maybe tricked or overwhelmed, overwhelmed by something other
Speaker 3: or something done sort.
Speaker 6: Swaggled, overwhelmed, and trapped as well.
Speaker 2: We got a verb a verb that this According to
Speaker 2: Urban Dictionary, it means urban mhm.
Speaker 5: Is.
Speaker 2: It is a verb that means to be tricked or
Speaker 2: duped or taken advantage of or cheated.
Speaker 1: Barn swaggled. That's good barn swoggled.
Speaker 5: Okay, he used another phrase in there, al swan. My
Speaker 5: grandma said that at the time, and I've always when
Speaker 5: he was al swan a swan, That's what my grandma
Speaker 5: always used to say, and he used it on his
Speaker 5: Adam and Eve thing at the very end.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's talking about that.
Speaker 1: Hey, did y'all did uh? For those of you like
Speaker 1: me and Josh kind of helped create this. And sometimes
Speaker 1: when you're trying to make something funny, it's not nearly
Speaker 1: as funny as you thought it was. Did you think
Speaker 1: me ridiculed and all the other dialects was funny?
Speaker 5: I thought it was kind of mean.
Speaker 6: I figured I figured Josh heard something when Christy.
Speaker 2: Heard it, well, so no, I thought it was I
Speaker 2: thought it was hilarious.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, me and Josh thought it was funny.
Speaker 3: I thought it was funny. When you really when you
Speaker 3: criticize that voice. I heard it sounded like Josh biel
Speaker 3: Maker on it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2: Okay, what team.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to let America.
Speaker 6: I know.
Speaker 1: It was a joke. Okay, Like to understand bear grease,
Speaker 1: you have to you have to be a little complex.
Speaker 1: So we were, we were we were highlighting that we
Speaker 1: have this like like centric view of the world based
Speaker 1: upon where we're from, and we think it's right. And
Speaker 1: so clearly that's what I was. That's why I was
Speaker 1: making fun I got rid. I was so enamored with
Speaker 1: our own dialect. But really, there's you can't help it
Speaker 1: if the other dialects just aren't that interesting. That's not
Speaker 1: my fault.
Speaker 5: Weaker.
Speaker 2: There we go.
Speaker 1: That was that was a joke. That was funny.
Speaker 2: I think my wife has the most neutral accent in history.
Speaker 2: Like I'm like, it's nothing.
Speaker 1: Well, she's from Saint Louis. Well I grew up and grew.
Speaker 2: Up in Saint Louis. But but her mom and dad
Speaker 2: have Southern accent. You know, they're both from you know,
Speaker 2: her mom's from rural Oklahoma or dad's from Oklahoma, and
Speaker 2: like all her family has upland South you know speech,
Speaker 2: but she's just very neutral. It's interesting to me. What
Speaker 2: TV show did doctor Blevin say gave a good representation
Speaker 2: of the upland south dialect. If you don't get this
Speaker 2: TV show, TV show yep, not movie, not movie TV show.
Speaker 1: You Oh okay, I'm forgetting the name of the show.
Speaker 5: For you don't know the show. If you're forgetting the name, needs.
Speaker 2: To miss one anyway.
Speaker 1: I mean, uh, actually, okay, I got I got, I got.
Speaker 2: I got everybody show it once, Andy Griffith, Andy Griffith.
Speaker 5: Whistle, that show that was my mom's. I mean, we
Speaker 5: watched that every night.
Speaker 2: He and then last question, what is an archaic intensifying prefix?
Speaker 1: Whoa?
Speaker 2: This was mentioned? Think about that archaic intensifying prefix?
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. I did see, but you might have got it.
Speaker 5: I might have gotten it without it, but I can't
Speaker 5: in honesty say that.
Speaker 2: Chaic intensifying prefix.
Speaker 4: I ain't got a hanker?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: You got it? Almost? Okay?
Speaker 5: Almost?
Speaker 2: When you add an a to an action verb a
Speaker 2: hunting a.
Speaker 5: Go And we have most Shepherd's compliments on my drawing
Speaker 5: this week. This was a contribution with.
Speaker 1: What are you going to call this one?
Speaker 2: And as winner of that question.
Speaker 5: He's a winner of that question. But I think if
Speaker 5: you'll notice my score at the top, I think you
Speaker 5: beat me.
Speaker 2: That's a score has five six seven said seven. Misty
Speaker 2: and Bear are winners this week.
Speaker 1: Guys. Good job. Well we uh, I hope everybody has
Speaker 1: a great Christmas and uh, there'll be there'll be some more.
Speaker 1: There'll be another Beggars episode that comes out before Christmas.
Speaker 2: There will be a episode on Christmas, on Christmas.
Speaker 1: On Christmas Day.
Speaker 5: Oh wow, christ.
Speaker 1: Christmas.
Speaker 5: What's that Christmas miracle?
Speaker 1: A Christmas Miracle episode that's going to be Listen to
Speaker 1: it before you open your presence. Yeah, it'll be interesting.
Speaker 1: It's it's kind of a look back if you if
Speaker 1: you will, it should be good. It's it's uh, it's
Speaker 1: been it's been a good one. Keep the wild places wild,
Speaker 1: so it's where the squirrels live.
Speaker 6: H