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Speaker 3: With your Home Jordan Clemper.
Speaker 4: Welcome to Daily John, George Flemmer got so much to
Speaker 4: talk about tonight. Vladimir Putin somehow wins reelection. New Yorkers
Speaker 4: are getting paid to snitch, and we find out if
Speaker 4: Donald Trump is good at sex.
Speaker 5: He's not.
Speaker 4: So let's get into headlines. Let's kick things off. Last
Speaker 4: night's met Gala. Now the magical night when the world's
Speaker 4: most fast sable cultural icons try to figure out how
Speaker 4: the fuck they're gonna fit their spiky headdress into an
Speaker 4: uber pool On fashion's biggest night.
Speaker 6: Gordon inspired looks on full display right in Bloom with
Speaker 6: this year's dress code the Garden of Times.
Speaker 7: Fans tried to figure out which star was fully covered
Speaker 7: head to toe in a floor length beij umbrella.
Speaker 8: Now this is a water singer Tyla. So many people
Speaker 8: talking about this. She had to be carried up the
Speaker 8: stairs of the net. The dress, which was made of sand,
Speaker 8: was simply too heavy.
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, a dress made of sand is super impressive.
Speaker 4: Who are you wearing Coney Island? Thank you very much.
Speaker 4: I like how she had four people carry her up
Speaker 4: the stairs. I bet Joe Biden saw that and turned
Speaker 4: to the Secret Service, like, let's just do that from
Speaker 4: now on. But the true glam heads weren't paying attention
Speaker 4: to the met gala because the real action last night
Speaker 4: was in Moscow. Or Vladimir Putin held an opulent inauguration
Speaker 4: that just screamed definitely not a dictator for life.
Speaker 9: We continue to watch live pictures from Moscow, where Vladimir
Speaker 9: Putin begins his fifth term as Russian president. The strong
Speaker 9: Man has already been in office for nearly a quarter century.
Speaker 9: Putin's new term doesn't end until twenty thirty in At
Speaker 9: that point he'll be eligible to.
Speaker 4: Run for another six years if he wants.
Speaker 9: It has been a lavish and opulent ceremony there in Moscow.
Speaker 4: Come on, lad you can't show up to all this
Speaker 4: in a suit a lot. They got the wizards and
Speaker 4: the golden walls. You're walking in like you're late from
Speaker 4: the office. Man, how do you think Merlin over here feels? Huh?
Speaker 4: He's like I went full Hogwarts over here. Now I
Speaker 4: feel like a dig Flad. You act like you don't
Speaker 4: even want to be here, but this is your whole thing.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not criticizing you. You're the one with
Speaker 4: the poison, but still have done this over zoom. Let's
Speaker 4: move on to America's Vladimir Putin Donald Trump. It's now
Speaker 4: week before of the Trump trial, and boy, time flies
Speaker 4: when you're constantly falling asleep in court, doesn't it. But
Speaker 4: I can guarantee you Trump didn't nap dr in today's testimony,
Speaker 4: which brings us to our latest installment of America's most
Speaker 4: tremendously wanted.
Speaker 1: The whole thing is a scam.
Speaker 4: Today was the biggest day yet in the trial of
Speaker 4: Donald Trump because today Stormy Daniels herself took the stand,
Speaker 4: and you could tell from the start that the coverage
Speaker 4: was going to be delicate.
Speaker 10: Right now in the courtroom, our reporters in there are
Speaker 10: sending us notes updates every second that they can, and
Speaker 10: mister Trump's defense attorney, Susan Nichols is saying, quote, we're
Speaker 10: informed to the second witness today will be Stormy Daniels.
Speaker 10: We want to renew our objection to her testifying, particularly
Speaker 10: about any details of any sexual acts that is mister
Speaker 10: Trump's attorney the prosecutors is also saying, quote, in terms
Speaker 10: of the sexual act, it will be very basic. I
Speaker 10: can't believe I have to read this on television. It's
Speaker 10: not going to involve any discription. It's not going to
Speaker 10: involve any descriptions of anything in particular.
Speaker 1: So read it.
Speaker 4: Oh, come on, Jake Tapper and Dana Bash acting like
Speaker 4: you're too good for this, like you've never seen genitalia before.
Speaker 4: All right, they're very prudish for people whose names sound
Speaker 4: like poor names. Jake Tapper and Dana Bash and State
Speaker 4: of the Union. Yeah, oh, they're gonna smear Kanish all
Speaker 4: over your wolf Blitzer, you know. Now. The crux of
Speaker 4: this this case is that Trump allegedly paid Stormy Daniels
Speaker 4: hush money to cover up their affair just before the
Speaker 4: twenty sixteen election, And today Stormy Daniels told us exactly
Speaker 4: what all that money was hushing, starting from the very
Speaker 4: beginning of the night Donald Trump invited her for dinner
Speaker 4: in his hotel room.
Speaker 11: Daniels testified that when she first entered Trump's hotel suite,
Speaker 11: he greeted her wearing silk pajamas. She says she joked
Speaker 11: that he stole Hugh Hefner's pajamas and asked him to change,
Speaker 11: which he did. According to Daniels, when she asked Trump
Speaker 11: about his wife, he admitted that he and Malania sleep
Speaker 11: in separate beds. After speaking with Trump for a while,
Speaker 11: Daniels told Trump he was rude and didn't know how
Speaker 11: to have a conversation. Someone should spank you with that magazine,
Speaker 11: she told him. She says, Trump then rolled up the
Speaker 11: magazine and quote gave me a look, so she took
Speaker 11: it from him, told him to turn around, and swatted
Speaker 11: him on the butt.
Speaker 4: At poor poor Maggie has in print media suffered enough spanking,
Speaker 4: silk pajamas, separate beds. These revelations are so uncomfortably personal
Speaker 4: that even Drake is like, oh, sucks to be that guy.
Speaker 4: But if that stuff made you uncomfortable, hold on, it
Speaker 4: gets worse.
Speaker 1: Daniels testified that at one point, prior to them having sex,
Speaker 1: Trump told her she reminded him of his daughter of Vodka,
Speaker 1: saying they were both smart, blonde, beautiful women who people underestimated.
Speaker 5: Hashtag girl dad Louck.
Speaker 4: I know it's old news to us that Donald Trump
Speaker 4: wants to mercanish his daughter. But remember, the court worked
Speaker 4: hard to find an unbiased jury, which means there's at
Speaker 4: least one person on there who was in a coma
Speaker 4: for the last ten years. And I bet that guy
Speaker 4: is losing his mind. There are you hearing this? Are
Speaker 4: you hearing this? That's the president and his daughter and
Speaker 4: a port star. Oh wait, all, my friend Prince hears
Speaker 4: about this. You know what, maybe the actually damning part
Speaker 4: of all of this is how Trump got Stormy to
Speaker 4: have sex with him. According to Daniels, he suggested that
Speaker 4: she could be on the Apprentice. Later, he stripped her his
Speaker 4: underwear and told her a quote, this is the only
Speaker 4: way you're getting out.
Speaker 5: Of the trailer park. Yikes.
Speaker 4: So from isn't just a bad lover who thinks talking
Speaker 4: about his daughter is an acceptable form of foreplay. He's
Speaker 4: a creep who dangles career advancement over women to get
Speaker 4: them to have sex with him, because lord knows they're
Speaker 4: not in it for the two minutes of thrusting. Personally,
Speaker 4: I find it disappointing. I mean, who would have thought
Speaker 4: a man found liable for sexual assault would coerce a
Speaker 4: woman into sex? I mean, honestly, It's like you can't
Speaker 4: even trust sex offenders these days. We're on today's testimony.
Speaker 4: Let's go live to the courthouse with our own Troy Awata. Troy,
Speaker 4: what what's the what's the mood down at the courthouse today?
Speaker 12: I would say the mood is uncomfy. Like I was
Speaker 12: so perturbed. I made myself feel better by remembering that
Speaker 12: time I watched Saltburn with my parents.
Speaker 4: That's how bad it was today.
Speaker 3: But I got to tell.
Speaker 12: You, it's pretty brutal hearing someone's dumb horny man moves
Speaker 12: read aloud in the cold light of a courtroom.
Speaker 4: I'm I'm sorry, dumb horny man moves.
Speaker 12: You know the things that you say and do right
Speaker 12: before you have sex with someone for the first time,
Speaker 12: The sexy stuff that you do in the moment that
Speaker 12: no one should ever rehash. You know, the faces and
Speaker 12: phrases like your lips look like two big worms.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, Well, I mean some Babel's man moves are
Speaker 4: pretty solid. I bet you.
Speaker 12: Keep telling yourself that big guy, like, what's your go
Speaker 12: to move when you get to the bedroom.
Speaker 4: Well, I don't know if this is the time or
Speaker 4: the plan. One time, uh, one time, I said, oh,
Speaker 4: alrighty then just like a Spentura. But it was it
Speaker 4: was a good reference because we had both just seen
Speaker 4: a Spentura. I mean she hadn't, but I had explained
Speaker 4: the movie to her.
Speaker 5: And it was.
Speaker 4: It's kind of a sexy moment for both of us.
Speaker 13: Cool.
Speaker 4: Try, what's your point that that testifying about people's man
Speaker 4: moves should have no place in the legal system.
Speaker 12: No, No, I actually I think the opposite. I think
Speaker 12: every trial should have it. You know, imagine if every
Speaker 12: time you committed a crime, the prosecutors could put your
Speaker 12: X on the stand and describe your most mediocre hookup
Speaker 12: in grave detail, and then a stenographer and a cardigan.
Speaker 4: Wrote it all down, and then.
Speaker 12: Jake Tapper broadcasted on national television.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Frankly, okay, I see you. That is a cliff point.
Speaker 4: I mean, you put it that way, I would be
Speaker 4: the most law abiding citizen in history, exactly.
Speaker 12: Yeah, right now, I'm about fifty to fifty on committing crimes,
Speaker 12: like I can see myself counterfeiting stamps.
Speaker 3: But if it meant I'd have to sit through a.
Speaker 12: Retelling of how one night I got on all fours
Speaker 12: and I said, tell me you're proud of me. I
Speaker 12: wouldn't even get a parking ticket. I wouldn't even own
Speaker 12: a car. This might be the greatest crime deterrent in history.
Speaker 4: So you're saying we should just air all of Trump's
Speaker 4: dirty details in an attempt to lower crime rates.
Speaker 12: No, Jordan, I am asking you to tell me you're
Speaker 12: proud of me.
Speaker 4: Oh right, then, Troy, what everybody? We come back, We'll
Speaker 4: find out how to make money by snitches.
Speaker 5: We'll go away.
Speaker 4: Welcome back to the Daily Show. There are a lot
Speaker 4: of annoying problems with living in New York City. But
Speaker 4: does he Laidak found some heroes. We're trying to solve
Speaker 4: one of them. Take a look in New York.
Speaker 7: You've got to have a side hustle, whether it's being
Speaker 7: a naked cowgirl or being an older naked cowgirl. But
Speaker 7: I recently learned about a new hustle that's actually helping
Speaker 7: the planet.
Speaker 1: The way to make some easy money. Get some video
Speaker 1: of a trucker idling in New York City.
Speaker 2: There are heavy fines for dirtying the air, and so
Speaker 2: called idoh warriors get a share To learn.
Speaker 7: More, I met up with the idle Warriors, a group
Speaker 7: of citizen vigilantes who are cashing in on this green gig.
Speaker 7: They say, idle hands are the devil's workshop. What made
Speaker 7: you decide to use your idle hands to stop idling?
Speaker 6: Over seven million people die every year on this planet
Speaker 6: due to air.
Speaker 4: Pollution, and we can change this if we just turned
Speaker 4: our engines off. The anti idling law was created nineteen
Speaker 4: seventy one by City of New York, but it wasn't.
Speaker 7: Being enforced at all, So it's kind of like when
Speaker 7: white people do drugs.
Speaker 3: I thought that if citizens got an opportunity, they would
Speaker 3: do it.
Speaker 7: As an environmental attorney, Samara Swanston wrote a law allowing
Speaker 7: any Nark Yorker to report an idling vehicle and collect
Speaker 7: twenty five percent of the city fine. That's almost eighty
Speaker 7: eight bucks a pop. But what if I don't want
Speaker 7: a Karen on my Amazon driver?
Speaker 14: The companies are the ones who pay the fine. The
Speaker 14: drivers themselves do not pay the fine. It's the the commercial.
Speaker 7: Vehicle, So you're actually snitching on the companies.
Speaker 14: What we're actually doing is holding big companies like Amazon, Khan, Ed,
Speaker 14: and Verizon accountable for polluting our air and literally killing
Speaker 14: people In New York.
Speaker 4: Yes, so cool.
Speaker 7: See in elementary school, I was always wearing as a tattletale.
Speaker 7: But now I'm saying that that was just good training
Speaker 7: to be an environmentalist. Okay, so we're taking down the man,
Speaker 7: not my actual mailman. Clearly this isn't about the money, but.
Speaker 13: We're all friends here.
Speaker 7: How much how much do you make?
Speaker 4: I know gentlemen that have made over one hundred thousand
Speaker 4: dollars a year.
Speaker 7: What wow. I'm not a mathematician, but if I take
Speaker 7: the sum of my credit card debt added to the
Speaker 7: cost of being a woman in America, multiplyed by eighty
Speaker 7: four percent of what a man makes, and subtract the
Speaker 7: earnings from reporting on a dozen idling vehicles.
Speaker 14: I'm rich.
Speaker 7: How many people know about this? Am I getting in
Speaker 7: on the ground floor? Or is this like Bitcoin where
Speaker 7: I'm going to have to cut my losses by selling
Speaker 7: my beanie babies.
Speaker 14: It's only about maybe twenty to thirty of us who
Speaker 14: are submitting the bulk of the complaints.
Speaker 7: I think we should just keep it between us. It's
Speaker 7: like an orgy.
Speaker 13: You don't want to advertise it to everybody.
Speaker 7: You want a small, dedicated group and hopefully Jake Jillen.
Speaker 6: Hall with an orgy, you would think the more than
Speaker 6: marry I think, you know. We hope that everybody participates.
Speaker 14: Our ultimate goal is for an idling to end. The
Speaker 14: best pain that we can get is clean.
Speaker 1: Air, money, clean air, actually clean air.
Speaker 6: There's so much island going on that as long as
Speaker 6: you're in the right place, you can really get.
Speaker 5: One after another.
Speaker 13: Let's snitch.
Speaker 4: We are a group of vigilant workers looking out for
Speaker 4: the best pictures of our neighbors.
Speaker 3: I wrote the bill because I wanted to see a
Speaker 3: change in the future.
Speaker 7: I have a Nordstrom credit card that hasn't been paid
Speaker 7: off in seven years.
Speaker 11: Are they even in business anymore?
Speaker 4: What do I do?
Speaker 7: I'm ready to make some money a difference, make a
Speaker 7: difference to keep.
Speaker 4: Your ears tuned to the sound of engines listening ears yep.
Speaker 4: Then you use your iPhone to capture the headquarters address
Speaker 4: and the license plate. See these blinking lights here, I'm
Speaker 4: this truck man. Yes, that's a good signal that they're idly.
Speaker 7: So you're so when I see these blinking lights, there's
Speaker 7: good here.
Speaker 5: Just like that.
Speaker 7: And then how long do we do this for?
Speaker 4: With three minutes and ten seconds.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a long period of time.
Speaker 13: But then I do this for three minutes.
Speaker 5: If you want to get paid, you have to do
Speaker 5: it right.
Speaker 7: Turns out activism is really boring, Andy hydrating. I'm just
Speaker 7: gonna pop in for a quick mark Mark Confronting truckers
Speaker 7: takes balls. Luckily, George and I have those balls.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go and tell that driver that he's breaking
Speaker 4: the law.
Speaker 13: George.
Speaker 7: Yes, I just want you to know, Yes, I'm right
Speaker 7: here with you. I am right behind you.
Speaker 13: I got your back.
Speaker 4: Do you know why why? Because we're partners for life.
Speaker 13: Love it right behind you?
Speaker 4: Can we shut the engine off so you compliant with
Speaker 4: the law.
Speaker 13: I'm not with him?
Speaker 9: What a great?
Speaker 4: So you think you've learned enough to go out on
Speaker 4: your own totally all right. I'm going to welcome you
Speaker 4: to become an idle warrior, George.
Speaker 7: You can count on me. After a full day of
Speaker 7: saving the Earth, it was time to celebrate with my
Speaker 7: fellow warriors. This rounds on me here to the real
Speaker 7: superheroes protecting this planet.
Speaker 13: So when do we get paid?
Speaker 14: It takes about two years.
Speaker 7: Okay, I'm out.
Speaker 4: Thank you, Devid, we come back. Novelist Lexi free Bad,
Speaker 4: We'll be joining me on the show Don't Go Away.
Speaker 4: Welcome back to the Daily Show.
Speaker 1: Guest today is an author who's laid.
Speaker 4: This book is the Book of Iron. Please welcome Lexi Freeman.
Speaker 3: Welcome, Welcome, Thank you, Thank you so.
Speaker 4: Much, Lexi. Yes, I love this book. This book is
Speaker 4: so funny and searing. Do you like Syring?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 13: I love Sirius. You love Syring?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: You want a seering novel. It gets into the ship.
Speaker 4: It makes fun of a little bit of everything and
Speaker 4: reveals something about yourself. I mean, it reveals nothing about me.
Speaker 4: I don't see myself at any kind of literature. But
Speaker 4: I love this book. I think this book starts it
Speaker 4: follows somebody who gets canceled. Yes, and then one of
Speaker 4: her first moves is she finds the writings of ein Rand.
Speaker 13: Yes, and you.
Speaker 4: Describe her initial her initial thoughts about Iran as the
Speaker 4: character says and the main characters, I had always considered
Speaker 4: her the gateway drug for bad husbands to quit their
Speaker 4: jobs and start online stock trading.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so true.
Speaker 4: What is a compelling about iinran for you and starting
Speaker 4: a novel like this?
Speaker 15: I mean, to me, she was you know, basically the
Speaker 15: worst person I could write a book about, which really
Speaker 15: appealed to me. She's so contentious within the culture. But
Speaker 15: I had recently watched a documentary about her when I
Speaker 15: started thinking about this, and to be honest, I mean,
Speaker 15: her ideas are provocative and difficult, but she also just
Speaker 15: had like a crazy sex life, which I found.
Speaker 13: You know, she was essentially in an open relationship at.
Speaker 15: The end of her you know, in her sixties, she
Speaker 15: was having an affair with like a man twenty five
Speaker 15: years younger than her. So like Inrand was basically a polyamorous,
Speaker 15: Like she had a polycule, which I think people sort
Speaker 15: of like don't know about her, and it kind of
Speaker 15: destroyed her in the end. She ended up sort of
Speaker 15: like having a nervous breakdown when he was cheating on her.
Speaker 15: It kind of undermined her whole philosophy of selfishness in
Speaker 15: a way, and I found that incredibly interesting and funny.
Speaker 13: She's just funny funny.
Speaker 4: If there's one thing that's gonna take Iran down, who
Speaker 4: thought it was going to be polyamorous.
Speaker 3: It was polyamory.
Speaker 15: It was polyamoring that did it in the end, which
Speaker 15: I just find delicious.
Speaker 4: I think it's fount I think your book sort of
Speaker 4: looks at what it means to be selfish. It sort
Speaker 4: of examines narcissism, Like what to you is interesting about
Speaker 4: the idea of narcissism and if you can make it
Speaker 4: about me, well.
Speaker 13: Yes exactly.
Speaker 15: I mean, you know, I'm not the first person to
Speaker 15: say this, but the culture is pretty narcissistic, and so
Speaker 15: you know, wanting to write a satire about the culture,
Speaker 15: you know, you want to write something that's going to
Speaker 15: speak to all sides. And I kind of felt, like,
Speaker 15: you know, narcissism is also, uh, something that speaks to
Speaker 15: the nature of the artist, which this book is about
Speaker 15: someone who's grappling with this idea of selfishness and wanting
Speaker 15: to be the best and wanting to be interesting and
Speaker 15: special and have, you know, contrarian opinions. But then there's
Speaker 15: also this desire to be empathetic and to do good
Speaker 15: in the world. And it's it's the kind of the
Speaker 15: conflict between selfishness and altruism that is ain Rand's whole
Speaker 15: philosophy that I feel is kind of distilled in the
Speaker 15: artistic temperament and in the artist's personality that feels like
Speaker 15: this really interesting kind of paradox to me, and narcissism
Speaker 15: plays into that really beautifully is and is also funny.
Speaker 4: It starts, it starts to unpack, start to unpack this
Speaker 4: idea of cancel culture, Like, how do you see that?
Speaker 4: Is there an upside to cancel culture?
Speaker 15: I mean, yes, sure, there's you know things, it moves
Speaker 15: the needle, there's cultural change in a way that can
Speaker 15: be good. And then there's also just you know, I
Speaker 15: had a conversation about this with a canceled person, and
Speaker 15: the conversation when in the sort of direction of you know,
Speaker 15: what being canceled kind of affords you the opportunity to
Speaker 15: do is to kind of kill your ego and not
Speaker 15: give a shit anymore about like what people think, and
Speaker 15: because the ego is all about reputation and trying to succeed,
Speaker 15: and when that's not a possibility for you anymore, then
Speaker 15: you get to pursue enlightenment, which I think is the
Speaker 15: other thing we could all be doing with our lives
Speaker 15: if we want.
Speaker 4: So, you're saying, in order for me to get enlightened,
Speaker 4: I have to first get canceled. Is that what I
Speaker 4: need to do Tonight tonight maybe. Yeah, Yeah, yeah, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna hold off. I want to hold on to that
Speaker 4: ego just a little bit longer. Yeah.
Speaker 15: I think enlightenment is good for you know, as you
Speaker 15: get older, and you know, we are all supposed to
Speaker 15: be sort of shedding our egos and not caring about
Speaker 15: these things that preoccupy us.
Speaker 13: In our youth. So I feel like getting enlightened is.
Speaker 15: Something you could put off time, you know, retirement slash
Speaker 15: enlightenment and that that seems like a thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, working at Walmart, Mart, go go go work at enlightenment, right,
Speaker 4: that's the time.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yes, Now this is a sattire. I think it's I
Speaker 4: think it's it's fascinating how you're so specific in this
Speaker 4: book and you're able to satirize the left and the
Speaker 4: right as you move this character through these spaces. I
Speaker 4: guess I'm curious. I always view satire and the Daily Show.
Speaker 4: We dabble in it here and there, but more other
Speaker 4: than me, it seems like satire is a broad sword.
Speaker 4: It's rarely uh, it's scalpel.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: It seems as if you find complexity in it. How
Speaker 4: do you find complexity and satire?
Speaker 13: I think you just have to be really specific.
Speaker 15: You have to be really generous, like the reader is smart.
Speaker 15: You can't try to trick them with easy kind of
Speaker 15: ideas and jokes.
Speaker 4: I can. I mean sometimes it can be very rewarding.
Speaker 13: Yes, and a lot of people will fall for it.
Speaker 15: But if you want to kind of if you want
Speaker 15: the reader to really come on side with you, and
Speaker 15: especially with your most transgressive material, then you've got to
Speaker 15: really not take them for granted, and you've really.
Speaker 13: I edit the crap out of my books.
Speaker 15: I go in there, I try to see it from
Speaker 15: all different sides, and I really try to get as
Speaker 15: specific as possible, you know, so that the reader feels
Speaker 15: like I respect their intelligence and I you know, I'm
Speaker 15: thinking of the thing they might argue back with me about,
Speaker 15: and I get specific. You know, there's a scene in
Speaker 15: the book, a sex scene where the character is pretending
Speaker 15: to do the locker room scene from Jerry Maguire.
Speaker 13: Do you remember that bit? Yeah?
Speaker 15: So you know, I watched that scene a lot, and
Speaker 15: I really got very specific about how you might perform
Speaker 15: form certain sexual acts while doing the Jerry Maguire lock
Speaker 15: a scene. So you know, you just you do it,
Speaker 15: You just you you commit and you and you really
Speaker 15: go all the way with it.
Speaker 4: If obsessing and thinking about sex scenes from movies could
Speaker 4: make you a great author, I think I would be
Speaker 4: a great author. I'm curious. I'm curious what you say
Speaker 4: about the editor. That's all it is, right, I'm curious
Speaker 4: when you talk about editing too, like are you are
Speaker 4: you having a conversation with yourself as you're writing that
Speaker 4: with like more extreme points of view than you don't
Speaker 4: know if you fully believe and you're writing that thing out,
Speaker 4: and then your editing process is a chance to essentially
Speaker 4: see if it if it holds water exactly.
Speaker 13: That's it.
Speaker 15: I'm always, in a sense trying to cancel myself as
Speaker 15: I'm writing. I'm thinking of like what would someone who
Speaker 15: thinks the opposite of this say? And then what would
Speaker 15: the counter argument be? And like how would I destroy
Speaker 15: myself if I wanted to?
Speaker 13: That's how I write.
Speaker 15: I'm just constantly thinking of of these other arguments, and
Speaker 15: in a sense, it just makes your writing better and better,
Speaker 15: and in a weird, corny way, it makes you better
Speaker 15: because the more you think about what the other side
Speaker 15: might think and try to make your argument better, you know,
Speaker 15: the smarter and the more kind of compassionate you become.
Speaker 15: And I think that's why I get away with saying
Speaker 15: some of the things I say in the book, because
Speaker 15: because it's done with, you know, I'm not I think
Speaker 15: I'm respecting these characters and their complexity and their wholeness
Speaker 15: and understanding why they think what they think, and and
Speaker 15: looking for the funny, funny parts really and the absurd parts, which,
Speaker 15: you know.
Speaker 4: Who do you imagine your audiences when you're writing?
Speaker 13: Oh God, I.
Speaker 15: Mean I think it's just like this mean voice in
Speaker 15: my own quiet. Yeah, it's literally just me being as
Speaker 15: mean as I can to myself.
Speaker 13: I don't know, there's probably a few.
Speaker 15: I think there's a couple of critics I think about
Speaker 15: a little bit. Ones I respect and ones I don't.
Speaker 15: They're in my head, some of my friends who are
Speaker 15: writers that are kind of in my head. But yeah,
Speaker 15: and yes, definitely like these people I imagine holding really
Speaker 15: different opinions to me. I feel like there's like an
Speaker 15: avatar of that person that's sort of they're saying, but
Speaker 15: what about you know this? And why aren't you thinking
Speaker 15: about this? And I'm like okay, okay, And then you know,
Speaker 15: you go back in so, I don't know.
Speaker 13: It's a whole there's a whole.
Speaker 15: Parliament of people in there telling me that I'm getting
Speaker 15: it wrong.
Speaker 4: Well, I would say, I think you got to write
Speaker 4: that. I find this book hilarious, fantastic. Congratulations. I hope at
Speaker 4: least one of those voices in your head is happy
Speaker 4: with the product. The bulk of ID is available now,
Speaker 4: Lexi Freeman, We're going to take a quick break right
Speaker 4: back after that.
Speaker 3: That's our show for tonight.
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Speaker 16: Who directed you to the bathroom? How's that question? Hoffinger
Speaker 16: to Stormy Daniels. I went out of the dining area,
Speaker 16: through a room, through a bedroom to the master bathroom.
Speaker 16: Did notice that someone had used the restroom because there
Speaker 16: was a leather looking toiletry bag on the counter with
Speaker 16: products in it, and there was old Spice.
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