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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

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Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I am Dale LOLLI he is the Matt

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Speaker 2: Williamson and it is time for the Fantasy Football Focus.

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Speaker 2: Here we'll talk about injuries as we do on Thursdays.

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Speaker 2: Here see who is trending in the right or wrong

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Speaker 2: direction I play this weekend. We mentioned Rashaw Bateman a

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Speaker 2: full participant on Thursday. That's two days in a row

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Speaker 2: for him. I would expect him to play this weekend

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Speaker 2: against the Steelers unless he has a setback. But he

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Speaker 2: really hasn't been fantasy relevant this year.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm sure he's on a lot of waiver wires.

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Speaker 3: If I was hit at the end, if my roster's

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Speaker 3: you know, got a couple guys at the bottom of

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Speaker 3: it that are banged up or not real valuable, maybe

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Speaker 3: I'd grab him now before his first big game. But

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Speaker 3: I'm not even saying the big games coming. Who knows,

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Speaker 3: you know?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, same thing, Justice Hill limited. He probably suits up

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Speaker 2: this week, but I'm not real fired up to.

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Speaker 3: He's like a six touch of game type guy. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: in fantasy. He's not real worthy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so their running game is pretty much Gus Edwards.

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Speaker 3: And and Lamar that's it, even Gordon here and there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Elijah Mitchell did not practice on Thursday. Again, that's

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Speaker 2: two days in a row for him. So full McCaffrey

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Speaker 2: this week.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they got Dallas, but that doesn't matter who

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Speaker 3: McCaffrey's playing, and it helps him a little.

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Speaker 2: It helps him because he's gonna get all the touches.

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Speaker 2: I mean maybe a couple of Jordan Mason touches.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, they like him. But I mean McCaffrey's shown

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Speaker 3: already this year he could be type of guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just you wonder worry about the long term

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Speaker 2: because he's never really been no no that you know,

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Speaker 2: but somebody you won't get, you know, he's not somebody

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Speaker 2: you want getting three hundred touches in the run game

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Speaker 2: because he's going to catch a hundred passes as well.

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Speaker 2: And that's been that's kind of been the balance that

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Speaker 2: they've had. They haven't thrown it to him quite as

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Speaker 2: much as they have in previous years because he's running

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Speaker 2: the ball.

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Speaker 3: More more than more than I'd be a little comfortable

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Speaker 3: with being honest with you. From a Niner perspective, this

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Speaker 3: is a big game. He's gonna get a ton of touches.

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Speaker 2: Deebo Samuels with the rib and knee issues, practiced on Thursday.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well yeah he started him though, you got a

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Speaker 3: bad taste in your mouth because he ran around like

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Speaker 3: a decoy.

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Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, Javonte Williams, if you picked up Julio McLaughlin,

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Speaker 2: this is not good news for you. Because Javonte Williams

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Speaker 2: returned to practice on Thursday, I.

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Speaker 3: Guess that's good news. I mean, p Ryan seems like

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Speaker 3: he's in the doghouse.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think McLachlin will have value moving

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Speaker 2: forward because he did some stuff. But Javonte Williams is

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Speaker 2: gonna be there.

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Speaker 3: Guy, I assume it'll be their top dude. I mean,

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Speaker 3: Williams a bad matchup this week though the Jets, Right. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Williams still doesn't look the same to me, and rarely

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Speaker 3: do they a year after such a bad injury. I

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Speaker 3: might want none of the above.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, now, I hear you. Tyrone Smith was a full

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Speaker 2: participant in Thursday's practice for the Dallas Cowboys. They need

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Speaker 2: him to be yeah, they need him to be out there.

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Speaker 2: Ramandrie Stevenson was limited again in Thursday's practice for the Patriots.

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Speaker 3: I was super confident in him in the preseason that

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Speaker 3: he'd be I know Zeke was there, but the Stevenson

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Speaker 3: would be their best offensive player, maybe a seventy touch guy.

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Speaker 3: He's let everybody down.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he has sixty carries for one hundred What he

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Speaker 2: has that many carries for one hundred and sixty four

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Speaker 2: sixty four yards. That's what he has this season.

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Speaker 3: That sounds right to make. Wow. I mean he hasn't

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Speaker 3: getting used, and not as much as a receiver as

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Speaker 3: I expected, but he hasn't getten used. Yeah, they just

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Speaker 3: don't ever move the ball.

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Speaker 2: Dawson Knox limited in Thursday's practice with that quad injury

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Speaker 3: Okay, I mean I guess that effects Kincaid, but yeah, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, Damian Harris with the neck injury was upgraded to

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Speaker 2: a full participant on the Thursday for Buffalo. They're flying

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Speaker 2: today tonight to go to London.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, boy, that seems risky. I would have done that

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Speaker 3: a couple of days ago, right, Yeah, it's a norm,

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Speaker 3: So I don't like the sound of that, especially when

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Speaker 2: I would lean towards jackson Not maybe not to win

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Speaker 3: By no means am I excusing what the Steelers did

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Speaker 3: in Houston. But the travel stuff messages it does, it

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Speaker 3: does saying it messes with people. Yeah, it couldn't have

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Speaker 3: been a positive for the Steelers. It's not the reason

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Speaker 3: they lost, folks. I'm not saying that.

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Speaker 2: Jay Jones with the knee was limited in Thursday's practice.

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Speaker 2: That's two straight days limited for Jay Jones. So it

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Speaker 2: looks like he's trending in the right direction.

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Speaker 3: It's good for Lawrence. I don't know if I'm like

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Speaker 3: starting Jones all the way, but it's not great for Carr.

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Speaker 2: He gets targeted a lot the first night.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, I'm not starting them though.

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Speaker 2: Uh. Tevin Jenkins was activated from injured reserve for the

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Speaker 2: bearss He'll play, Yeah, it looks like it.

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Speaker 3: Thero line has not been great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh to make room for him, the Bears release

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Speaker 2: quarterback Nathan Peterman. He well traveled. UH Miles Sanders with

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Speaker 2: that groin injury, limited again in Thursday's practice.

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Speaker 3: Not sounded great. Yeah, I mean he's a hard guy

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Speaker 3: to start anyway. I mean, just if you have him

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Speaker 3: stand alone, I might even talking about Cuba, I'm siding

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Speaker 3: on if he plays. Is he even a flex.

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Speaker 2: Maybe maybe he's not catching balls down there though, like

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Speaker 2: he I thought he'd be more productive. Yeah, just it's

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Speaker 2: not not great. You know, you would expect him to

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Speaker 2: have to kind of if they're going to win that game,

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Speaker 2: or at least stay in that game, they're gonna have

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Speaker 2: to probably get into a shootout with Minnesota.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they don't have the weapons.

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Speaker 2: Are they playing Minnesota this week?

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Speaker 3: I think?

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Speaker 2: Oh no, he missed the Week four game against the

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Speaker 2: Like they played a lot.

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Speaker 3: They played a lot of lion in Detroit. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: knew they had to be set up to score a

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Speaker 3: lot of points. I think they're in for a long day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that could be bad.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Titans wide receiver Kyle Phillips practiced on Thursday.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't he's Yeah. I mean it's valuable if you were

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Speaker 2: Von Miller joined the team on their flight to London

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Speaker 2: for Week five matchup against the Jaguars.

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Speaker 3: He's been talking for ten days or so. Hey, I'm playing,

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Speaker 3: I'm playing. Yeah, I mean I wouldn't think it's every snap,

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Speaker 3: but he's an unbelievable player. That's great for the Bills,

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Speaker 2: Wandell Robinson practiced on Thursday. For the Giants. They need him, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they need him. Daniel Jones says it's important to make

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Speaker 2: Darren Waller a bigger part of the offense, and he

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Speaker 2: has to do a better job of finding him and

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Speaker 2: getting him the ball.

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Speaker 3: Couldn't agree more.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's no degree.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, protections obviously they're problem. You take ten or eleven sacks.

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Speaker 3: I mean, fantasy production is not going to be there

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Speaker 2: Even if that he's got, he's averaging five point eight

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Speaker 3: That's not so bad.

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Speaker 2: That's not so bad.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I guess for fourth or fifth tight

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Speaker 2: But I think everybody, even we talked about in the preseason,

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Speaker 2: I thought he might be like tight end three by

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Speaker 2: the end of the season, just because he's the best

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Speaker 2: receiver that they have.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought he'd lead the team in receptions. I

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Speaker 3: mean maybe he still will.

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Speaker 2: And he might.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so we'll see. That doesn't mean he's tight

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Speaker 3: end three. Unfortunately, No, Unfortunately, I was. That's the tight

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Speaker 3: end position now even three for twenty one, like even

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Speaker 3: like Dallas Goddard, it's been really bad. Yeah, a lot

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Speaker 3: of these guys are highly kittled.

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Speaker 2: You know. It is tough. Taekwon Thornton not practicing for

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Speaker 2: the Patriots, not that I think that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, but the need every weapon they can get.

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Speaker 2: Luke Musgrave has cleared concussion protocol and will be active

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Speaker 2: in Week five against the Raiders. For the Green Bay Packers, He's.

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Speaker 3: A sneaky tight end that I'm not sure I would

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Speaker 3: ignore him. If he was on the waiver wire, I

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Speaker 3: might want to grab him. I'm not saying start him

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Speaker 2: Start them over Kyle Pitts. Probably start anybody different Cowpits

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Speaker 3: I picked up Jake Ferguson in the league with you,

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Speaker 3: and I'm gonna start him over Pits. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 2: T Higgins with the rib injury, remains sidelined for Thursday's

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Speaker 3: The way I thought that, there's little chance.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he plays this man, he's broken ribs.

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Speaker 2: Rico Daldell uh returned to practice on Thursday. He's the

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Speaker 2: he's the handcuff.

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Speaker 3: He's the two.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's the two.

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Speaker 3: He should probably be in every league.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because he's one heart beat away from being the

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Speaker 2: waiver wire pick up from being Yeah, everybody's rushing to

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Speaker 2: the waiver wire to pick up Rico Dowdell.

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Speaker 3: And just because no one's heard of him, they don't

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Speaker 3: look at it that way. But it really doesn't matter. He

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Speaker 3: wouldn't get a lot of opportunities in a good offense.

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Speaker 2: He's already I mean he doesn't. He's going one hundred

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Speaker 2: and thirty yards from scrimmage in a touchdown on twenty

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Speaker 2: five touches. So it's not like he stinks.

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Speaker 3: No, I bet he has a ton of fourth quarter

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Speaker 3: touches when a couple of blowout games. Yeah, you know

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Speaker 3: that's fine, but so what.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's out there, he's showing, he's showing he can

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Speaker 2: do it, and he's showing that he's he is clearly the.

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Speaker 3: Two I mean, and nobody else and nobody else.

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Speaker 2: They're not going to give it to Vaughan Deuce.

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Speaker 3: Vaughn Is He's going to get five touches a game.

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Speaker 3: And I'm not rooting for this, but Paulard's never shown

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Speaker 3: that he's a belcow. Yeah, in terms of three hundred touches.

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Speaker 2: Jimmy Garoppolo remains in concussion protocol, but is practicing Thursday,

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Speaker 2: when we know what that means, and this is a

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Speaker 2: big step to him getting cleared perhaps tomorrow or Saturday.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it would be a second week in

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Speaker 3: concussion protocol. So that's good.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's good news for DeVante Adams owners because

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Speaker 2: Green Bay at home. I think Devanta Adams wants to

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Speaker 3: He could be very attractive. Yeah yeah yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, as you know, and they're all shooting up

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Speaker 3: I think they're saving everybody for this game.

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Speaker 2: He was held out of Thursday's practice with a shoulder injury.

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Speaker 2: not happening. Wouldn't be too worried. Uh. Sae Kwon Barkley

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Speaker 3: Was expected to be Yeah, he is that before the.

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Speaker 3: never know. Yeah, they didn't call it.

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Speaker 2: That, but need him out there among the ross. Saint

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not good. Uh. Damian Pierce with a knee

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Speaker 2: he didn't play. He didn't practice on Wednesday. He didn't

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Speaker 3: Maybe I missed it, but I don't remember him hobbling

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he must have taken maybe a helmet to something.

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Speaker 3: Iterly.

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Speaker 2: You never know. When speaking with the media to yesterday

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing to remember.

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Speaker 3: He has a weird situation.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he hasn't been officially activated activated yet.

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Speaker 3: Sure, well he was, he was. I'm not sure what

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to think. If he was on the pump,

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Speaker 3: he was on the pup on injury reserve, he was.

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Speaker 2: On the pump. Okay, Yeah, so the injured reserve rules

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Speaker 2: Be interesting to see him.

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Speaker 3: He's acting like nothing ever happened and he's just going

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Speaker 2: I would be very cautious about playing him this week.

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Speaker 3: I think you probably have to, though, I.

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Speaker 2: Wouldn't just play. I'm not against Tennessee. I'm not plugging

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Speaker 3: I forgot that that's an awful team.

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Speaker 2: It could be. I mean, it could be a split

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Speaker 3: For I mean, you're starting ahead of Moss thirty five yards.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't start either one of them.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I'm just saying if it could be such.

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Speaker 3: Would be that's possible. Neither one's a great receiver. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Moss is the better receiver. I it's a hard team

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they were very good. Austin Ekeler he's off this week.

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Speaker 2: The Chargers are off this week, but he said he

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Speaker 3: Great. Great, but man, if that went any longer, I'd

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Speaker 3: been petrified if I was an Yeah. Now that at

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Speaker 2: Rams head coach Sean McVay said that Cooper Cup with

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Speaker 2: the hamstring, is going through a normal practice. This was

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Speaker 3: I think there's a really good chance he plays.

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Speaker 2: There's a chance he plays. And if he does, boy.

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Speaker 3: Stafford's attractive. Yeah, he's playing phenomenal and I just gave

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Speaker 2: What do you do with Pooka Nakula?

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Speaker 3: Start him? I mean, I can't leave.

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Speaker 2: It's there's only one football. Do they hurt each other?

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Speaker 2: Does Cup go back to his former you know, fifteen

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Speaker 3: Still?

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Speaker 2: Does Nikua keep the fifteen targets a game? Like? That's?

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Speaker 2: I know one thing Nicoua with Cooper Cup back on

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Speaker 3: Agreed, But if he gets eight or nine, I'm happy

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Speaker 2: But he goes from being at what what has been

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Speaker 2: a wide receiver one. They're probably more of a wide

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Speaker 3: But if I have them both, I'm starting to both. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: assuming Cup's active, and I'm real happy about Stafford.

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Speaker 2: Oh, Stafford's a big winner. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The Higbees of the world and Atlas of the world

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Speaker 3: will become obsolete. Yeah, I mean that's just a McVay thing.

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Speaker 3: He gets the ball to his best. Dudes, Now he's

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Speaker 2: Or really three, what about two?

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Speaker 3: Two at Well, why, I don't think. I think it

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Speaker 2: I think it hurts Higbee like Atwell was still getting I.

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Speaker 3: Mean, he'll get the shot plays.

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Speaker 2: Here's the problem with this is is Kieran Williams is

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Speaker 2: Kien Williams He's going to catch the ball out of

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Speaker 2: the backfield. He's probably gonna five times a game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's been.

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Speaker 3: That's been pretty consistent.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if Cup's getting let's say, let's say twelve targets

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Speaker 3: Per Cup, Yeah, which is a nice workload.

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Speaker 2: All right, now you're up to seventeen catches. Well, you're

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Speaker 2: not sets or seventeen targets. I should say, now you throw.

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Speaker 3: In who goods another tennis.

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Speaker 2: Okay, now you're now you're what twenty seven targets. At

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Speaker 2: Well gets his.

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Speaker 3: Well gets like cutting half and Higbee gets like cutting half.

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Speaker 3: I think that Well becomes your your splash guy. You

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Speaker 3: know his targets are deep.

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Speaker 2: I think it hurts everybody.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I think, yes, it does hurt. Don't expect me

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Speaker 3: so is not going to stay at the same leve.

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Speaker 2: No, he's not going to be catching fifteen passes a game.

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Speaker 2: That's my that's my point. That's not happening.

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Speaker 3: On that right, But he's still a fantasy star. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and Cop, like I'm firing them both up.

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Speaker 2: I guess I just I'm one of these guys. I'd

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Speaker 2: rather just like to see it in reality, because we

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Speaker 2: haven't seen it. We didn't see you know, Cup, but

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Speaker 2: didn't do anything. Put Pooka Nakua is like an emergence

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Speaker 2: during you know, in season.

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Speaker 3: Here.

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Speaker 2: It's not like we've we've we've got anything to fall

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Speaker 3: So if let's say it's a strange situation, you drafted

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Speaker 3: Cup High goes on Ir, you were the first one

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Speaker 3: to put in on Puoka, you got both of them

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Speaker 3: for the two, Well.

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Speaker 2: Then I'm starting Cup, I'm starting Cop.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, But if I've got I think would be

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Speaker 2: But I might have better options maybe maybe, you know,

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Speaker 2: I may have if I if I've drafted, let's say

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Speaker 2: you know, Let's say let's say I got Cup and

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Speaker 2: A J.

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Speaker 2: I can only start two of them. Well, I'm not starting.

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Speaker 2: I'm not starting pooking Akua. I hope that he hits,

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Speaker 2: he ends up with let's say seven catch just because

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Speaker 2: then I trade him.

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Speaker 3: The trade him right, right, But I'm thinking of bigger

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Speaker 3: leagues with flexes and things like that. Like I'm I

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Speaker 3: can promise you Nikou would be in my top twenty

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Speaker 2: Would you try to trade Nikua now? Hm? Because his

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Speaker 2: because his value is not going to be any higher

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Speaker 3: Well, everyone in the world knows cups back and they're

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Speaker 3: having the same conversation. But I think his val What I.

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Speaker 2: Would do is I would look for somebody who's really

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Speaker 2: weak it with their second wide receiver, and I say, here,

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Speaker 2: I'll give you a pook in the kupa for Aaron Jones,

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Speaker 2: Damian Pierce, Aaron Jones, one of like a good RB

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Speaker 2: an RB two that's kind of been in that case.

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Speaker 3: Sure, but I think I think his stock dipped from

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's still high. It's still high now, but

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Speaker 2: it can it could bought him out. He's not gonna

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Speaker 2: it's not going to go higher than it is now.

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Speaker 3: See, I think it will if he gets ten, if

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Speaker 3: he shows that he gets eight to ten targets this week,

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Speaker 3: and they can coexist together.

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Speaker 2: But it's not the it's not the fifteen catches he

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Speaker 3: He's never he's never gonna point That's what I mean.

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Speaker 2: His his point total is only going to eat like he's.

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Speaker 3: His production one.

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Speaker 2: Let's say he's wide receiver three right now. Yeah, he's

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Speaker 2: not going to finish at wide receiver three.

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Speaker 3: No, but you can't get wide receiver compensation back for

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Speaker 3: wide receiver three compensation back for him.

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Speaker 2: No, but I could get an RB two back for him,

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Speaker 2: right and I would be perfectly okay with that for

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Speaker 3: My point, if you and I are talking trade and

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Speaker 3: but I'm going to give you less today than I

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Speaker 3: would a week from today. If he gets ten targets.

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Speaker 2: Less today than a week. See, I don't know that

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Speaker 2: I would, because he's I can't see them co exist.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that. I don't know that they can

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Speaker 2: because they run a lot of the same stuff. Is

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Speaker 2: Nika now? Is Nikua now bumped outside because cups cups

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Speaker 2: of slot?

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Speaker 3: I think is Robert Woods when they were humming? You know, Okay,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like, that's a good player,

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Speaker 3: that's a fantasy.

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Speaker 2: Robert Woods, Robert Woods and Robert Woods typical typical Gold

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Speaker 2: State line was like six for eighty five.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, that's wide receiver twenty five to thirty.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. That doesn't excite me.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's not going to be wide receiver three

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Speaker 3: like you said, right. I don't know the cup can

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Speaker 3: be either now, but I think they're both in your

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Speaker 3: top twenty four ish. I mean it's it's not wonderful

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Speaker 3: of them. But Stafford, Yeah, I'd want to get rid

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Speaker 3: of him. I just oh, I'm not saying keep them right.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you can turn him in a running

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Speaker 3: back two, yes, do that immediately? Or would you? I

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Speaker 3: might trade him straight up for Samuel Porta.

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Speaker 2: That would be you know what I mean, a tight

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Speaker 2: end that you know, a tight end that you can start.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, or you know the sixth best quarterback yeah,

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Speaker 3: Anthy Richardson. Maybe you know there's somebody you know.

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Speaker 2: He's quarterback twelve right now.

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Speaker 3: But I'm sure he is. But I mean somebody that's

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Speaker 3: there's a doubt or two about.

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Speaker 2: But I saw a stat on it, like if you

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Speaker 2: took Anthony Richardson's running out of his numbers, out of

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Speaker 2: his out of if you just took the rushing touchdowns

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Speaker 2: that he has out of the equation, yeah, which you're

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Speaker 2: kind of he falls from like QB twelve. Now I

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Speaker 2: did miss a game, but he goes he goes from.

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Speaker 3: QB twelve and he also left mid game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but he goes from QB twelve down the QB

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Speaker 2: twenty eight or twenty nine something like that. That's how

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Speaker 2: much the rushing touchdowns are affecting his score right now,

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Speaker 2: and they're kind of you know, are those going to

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Speaker 2: hold up if if Jonathan Taylor comes back, I don't.

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Speaker 3: Know they'll be hot. I mean, he's going to score

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Speaker 3: more than most quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: The most quarter but he's not gonna he's not going

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Speaker 2: to score like he has been. He's still he's still

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Speaker 2: a very unrefined passers to kind of the point where

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Speaker 2: he's completing fifty eight percent of his past I.

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Speaker 3: Would I would be buying him more than I would

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Speaker 3: be selling him. If I owned him, he would not

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Speaker 3: be on the market for me. He loved him to

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Speaker 3: begin with, and you hated him. Speaking of our league,

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Speaker 3: I's got to note that Christian Watson been downgraded to

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Speaker 3: questionable just when he's starting to play. Yeah, well that's

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Speaker 3: maybe that's what his season is gonna be.

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Speaker 2: Like, that might very well be the case. That's gonna

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Speaker 2: do it for the Fantasy Football focus. Do you like

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Speaker 2: anybody tonight?

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Speaker 3: A lot? I can see points tonight. I mean both.

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Speaker 2: Defenses stay that the Bears have given up. I think

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Speaker 2: it's like fourteen straight games with twenty five or more points.

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Speaker 2: It's a NFL record, NFL record. They're just awful.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I'm starting Robinson. I mean, How's not terrible.

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Speaker 3: Fields isn't terrible. I mean, if you if you're number

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Speaker 3: one guys on by or something like that, if you've Herbert,

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Speaker 3: you can live with Howe this week.

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Speaker 2: What about Washington defense.

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Speaker 3: It's not horrible. Not the Bears defense ever.

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Speaker 2: No, no, you know something the Bears defense.

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Speaker 3: But but I think Fields might be back to producing

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Speaker 3: for fans.

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Speaker 2: He still gets sacked, though tons sacked and throws throws picks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's good. That's what I was thinking with the

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Speaker 3: Washington d that front Foward is still legit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, so they'll get to him a little bit.

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Speaker 2: But I'm not gonna say that it's gonna be an

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Speaker 2: interesting game, because I don't think it is.

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Speaker 3: But I just like watching the young quarterbacks, not as much.

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Speaker 2: As like watching hot young tight ends. Anyways, we're gonna

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Speaker 2: Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio and Matt I thought

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Speaker 2: it'd be a good time here as we're about halfway

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Speaker 2: into the college football season as well. Oh yeah, take

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Speaker 2: a look here at our friend, the friend of the show,

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Speaker 2: Ryan Wilson from CBS Sports. We have him Ryan on

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Speaker 3: We're not talking a lot of draft regularly. A month

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Speaker 3: or two from the let's let's let's see about that

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Speaker 3: spot thing.

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Speaker 2: So right now he has at number one, Caleb will Williams,

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Speaker 2: the quarterback from USC. I think that's everybody's consensus number one.

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Speaker 2: Number two though he has Marvin Harrison Junior.

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Speaker 3: The one plugging them in with teams or not he is.

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Speaker 2: Right now he has the Cardinals at one.

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Speaker 3: And I think if it had ended right now, the

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Speaker 3: Bears would have.

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Speaker 2: The Bears would have the top two. That's the interesting

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Speaker 2: thing about this. So the Cardinals have two picks. They stink,

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Speaker 2: and the Bears have two picks and they stink.

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Speaker 3: They can the Cardinals of Houston, who looks good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the top the top four picks could end up

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Speaker 2: being well, maybe not the top four Houston will be Yeah,

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Speaker 2: the Houston might be Okay, it's changing that, but they're

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Speaker 2: not going to be twenty right, you know. And Chicago, Chicago,

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Speaker 2: as Carolina's first round.

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Speaker 3: Pick, Chicago could have easily two of the top three.

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Speaker 2: So here's the interesting thing about this. So at three

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Speaker 2: has the Bears taking Drake May, the quarterback out of

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Speaker 2: North Carolina.

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Speaker 3: And so he didn't he had the Cardinals picking one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, one and two just kind of again it's okay, right,

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Speaker 2: but this could end up being kind of the way

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Speaker 2: this thing goes. Let's see, because if the Bears had

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Speaker 2: the number one pick, well, either way they would take

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Speaker 2: quarterback and then probably Marvin Harrison, right, I mean, in

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Speaker 2: which case, then if you're the Cardinals, do you take

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Speaker 2: Drake May Or if you're the Bears, do you take

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Speaker 2: the you know, Drake May?

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Speaker 3: And then what happens the fields and Kylo Right, that's

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Speaker 3: the that's the big the next thing to fall. They

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Speaker 3: end up in Minnesota or Tampa or who knows you're

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Speaker 3: gonna get something for them?

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Speaker 2: Which which one would you if you're if you're a GM,

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Speaker 2: you've got the opportunity to take Kyler Murray where Justin

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Speaker 2: Field's in a trade, which one are you trying more

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Speaker 2: to acquire.

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Speaker 3: The so expensive?

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Speaker 2: That's the problem, apples and apples apples here.

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Speaker 3: But he's the better football player, yeah, I mean he's

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Speaker 3: He's an NFL starter.

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Speaker 2: You may look at this and say, we really liked

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Speaker 2: Fields coming out a couple of years ago, and we

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Speaker 2: think the Bears have mismanaged him. I'd like to get

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Speaker 2: him in here for a year or two and see

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Speaker 2: what we can do with them.

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Speaker 3: Like, it would shock me if Fields is value got

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Speaker 3: the Trey Lance neighborhood.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that can't happen, although.

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Speaker 3: He would have to get benched this. I mean, I

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Speaker 3: saw first pick in the draft. It might.

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Speaker 2: His starting His record is a starter, And I even

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Speaker 2: realized the quarterback record is a it's five and twenty five,

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Speaker 2: five and twenty five.

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Speaker 3: They and people forget they earned the first overall pick

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Speaker 3: last year. Yeah, decision with and he's a lot of

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Speaker 3: people told me if Bryce Young was six to three,

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Speaker 3: he would be the better starting quarterback right now.

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Speaker 2: I like Fields. I liked Fields coming out.

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Speaker 3: I think he has to turn it around now.

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Speaker 2: I think he throws the ball well, I don't know

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Speaker 2: if he you know, does he process as well as

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Speaker 2: he should? That's what I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's not on time, and then he takes

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Speaker 3: a million sacks. The running is not enough.

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Speaker 2: Because if you put him in an offense like with

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Speaker 2: the Ravens, if yeah, I think would be awesome if

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Speaker 2: you brought a Greg Roman and say, Greg design the

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Speaker 2: same offense we had he had in Baltimore for Justin Fields.

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Speaker 3: Right, I mean, like I think Atlanta could do that,

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Speaker 3: you know, getting on the cheap. I'd rather have than

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Speaker 3: ridd There's yeah. The other thing about Fields though, and

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Speaker 3: I hate to say this, but Kenny's just one year away.

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Speaker 3: You you can pick up fifth year option. You can

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Speaker 3: pick up a fifty year off right now you're saying no, right,

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Speaker 3: I mean the Steters have this decision really soon too.

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Speaker 3: It happens quick, yep, for sure. So after if you're Minnesota,

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Speaker 3: I don't think Kyler Murray. I mean, I don't know

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Speaker 3: if i'd give you a first form if I'm picking high,

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Speaker 3: but I'll give you a future first or two. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I don't know if he's a good leader and all

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Speaker 3: that stuff too, But.

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Speaker 2: I've heard some stuff about that that that's not.

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Speaker 3: Right, of course, but it's gonna be really fun if

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Speaker 3: the teams we think are bad stay bad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. At four, last.

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Speaker 3: Thing, Marvin Harrison's awesome. So if you are Drake may

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Speaker 3: or Caleb Williams and I get to come in the

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Speaker 3: league with that.

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Speaker 2: Guy, Yeah, that's not bad, right right right? For Shanu

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Speaker 2: the offensive tackle from Penn State's number four on.

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Speaker 3: Here, he's gonna go really high.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: This is a really good draft. And I know people

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Speaker 3: say that every year, but I'm telling you, tackles and

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Speaker 3: quarterbacks is really good this year.

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Speaker 2: It picked five Jared Versy, the defensive end edge rusher

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Speaker 2: from Florida State.

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Speaker 3: I'm shocked he didn't come out last year. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: what I don't know is I just don't have time.

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Speaker 3: Is these guys having great years. I mean he was

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Speaker 3: considered a top ten pick a year ago. Yeah, and

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Speaker 3: at Florida State. Seven doing well.

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Speaker 2: At six, Jerson Newton, defensive line from Illinois.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's I know that he is having a very

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Speaker 3: good year. Yeah, it's not about defense tackle class either.

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Speaker 2: At seven, Joe alt the offensive tackle from Notre Dame Today.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, McGlinchey ish, you know, I think he's a better

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Speaker 3: prospect than mcglinche was.

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Speaker 2: At eight, Dallas Turner, the edge rusher from Alabama.

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Speaker 3: He's lighter, he's like two thirty five to forty, kind

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Speaker 3: of looks like a basketball player. Yes, I mean he

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Speaker 3: influenced Will Anderson a lot.

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Speaker 2: At nine, Emika Egbuka, the other wide receiver from Ohio State.

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Speaker 3: Wow, that's a that's the highest I've seen him, but

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Speaker 3: I've consistently seen him mocked in the first Yeah, what

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Speaker 3: they're doing a receiver is nuts. Yeah. And look how

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Speaker 3: good at Lave and Wilson are in the pros. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and they won't even know about Smith and Jigbi yet.

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Speaker 2: At ten, j C. Latham, offensive tackle from Alabama. He's

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Speaker 2: the big, massivettacks of three fifty ish. With the way

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Speaker 2: the Alabama tackles have been hit and miss in the

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Speaker 2: in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: I know, you hate to scout the helmet, but you

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Speaker 3: wonder how they being coached or you know, they're highly recruited,

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Speaker 3: right if they went to Bama. But are they soft

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Speaker 3: on them? I bet not that it's probably not, but

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Speaker 3: it is opposite.

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Speaker 2: Is it a situation because there's so many other good

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Speaker 2: guys around them? Do they look better than what they are.

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Speaker 3: I think that's tough. H would he look? Of course

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Speaker 3: you dominated Akroan, you know, but you know, still the

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Speaker 3: other thing about the Obama dudes, and I think this

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Speaker 3: is true for Georgia. Their practices take more out of you.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you know. Uh. At eleven, Nate Wiggins, cornerback

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Speaker 2: out of Clemson. That's the first cornerback on.

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Speaker 3: The lease here. That's the highest I've seen him. He

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Speaker 3: must be having a good year. I mean I've seen

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Speaker 3: his name before.

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Speaker 2: At twelve, Malik Neighbors, wide receiver out of LSU.

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Speaker 3: Okay, there's I think there's a big race right now

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Speaker 3: for who's wide receiver.

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Speaker 2: Two Yeah, At thirteen a Marius MIM's offensive tackle out

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Speaker 2: of Georgia and another forty pounder our board.

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00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 3: Dame Brugler loves this guy that he's multible clay and

659
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 3: you're stuck behind like Roderick Jones. And I mean he's

660
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 3: have a lot of tape, but he's really really talented.

661
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 2: This kid has really come on this year. At fourteen,

662
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 2: Patrick Paul, offensive tackle out of Houston. A lot of tackles, yeah,

663
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 2: a lot of tackles.

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Speaker 3: And there's several more they'll probably be in the first

665
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 3: round mix, and you know they're not gonna.

666
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 2: Fall at fifteen. He has Schuder Sanders quarterback out of Colorado.

667
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 2: Of course, he's Deion Sanders' kid.

668
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 3: So I was listening to a podcast today about the

669
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Speaker 3: quarterbacks that Nate Tice does for the Athletic and Kiper

670
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 3: has him as the third quarterback. Apparently Wilson does too,

671
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 3: or being told that there's a lot of whose quarterback

672
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 3: three is very very much up in the air. But

673
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 3: because of his name and how much people are talking

674
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 3: about him, they suggested on this podcast, I don't know,

675
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 3: he might not come out. He could get like five

676
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 3: million next year to go back to Colorado and like

677
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 3: advertisements galore, you know, like that's not a bad game.

678
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 2: You know, by the way, I mean it's not like dad,

679
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 2: you know, the family's not hurting for money exactly.

680
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 3: I mean, he's a unique prospect.

681
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 2: Come back and play for his dad again.

682
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 3: Help help him recruit. Yeah, right, there's a lot of

683
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 3: benefit from going back at sixteen.

684
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 2: Kingsley sue my, I have no idea, Sue, Yeah, tackle

685
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 2: from byu.

686
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, again, there's a lot of first round tackles.

687
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 2: I'd be interested, Like, I wonder if he is. He's

688
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 2: a sophomore. He's Richard, he's super young.

689
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 3: I don't think he has done the mission or anything stuff. Yeah.

690
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 2: At seventeen, light to lay two Edge Guy, Edge Guy

691
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 2: from UCLA six five Pact twelve this year is actually

692
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 2: they got some dude. They got some dudes and good

693
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 2: teams just in time for the conference to get blown up.

694
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 3: Washington had some receivers. Quarterback yeah.

695
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 2: Uh. At eighteen, Chop Robinson edge rusher out of Penn State.

696
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 3: Penn State could have three first rounders. They have a

697
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 3: quality group.

698
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 2: At nineteen Michael Pennix, junior, he's the quarterback out of Washington.

699
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, real unorthodox throwing style, real quick on Chop from

700
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 3: Penn State. I don't know if there's a consensus number

701
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 3: one edge, you know, like Will Anderson kind of controlled that.

702
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 3: I think vers is aversity probably is. Yeah, Turner from

703
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 3: Bamas was second on this list, but I'm not sure

704
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 3: that that's set in stone.

705
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 2: At twenty, kool Aid McKinstry out of Alabama, the cornerback.

706
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 3: I have no idea what kind of year he's having,

707
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 3: but mostly going into the year he was cornered.

708
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 2: He was number one. Yeah, at twenty one. This guy

709
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 2: has kind of reinvented himself here a little bit this year.

710
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 2: Spencer Rattler out of South Carolina.

711
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 3: I think it's his seventh year and he's been in

712
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 3: college forever yet forever, but he's doing well. And I

713
00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 3: guess he had some mimaturity questions that he's answered. He's

714
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 3: because he's forty years old.

715
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 2: At twenty two. I'm surprised he's just far down the list.

716
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 3: Brock Bowers, that's insane to me. I mean, I'll bet

717
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 3: every I'll bet anyone that wants to listen he goes

718
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 3: in the top ten and maybe four, Like I don't.

719
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 2: He might be actually be wide receiver two.

720
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 3: Yes, he's pass catcher two.

721
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 2: Pass catcher too, I think be a better way to

722
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 2: put it.

723
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 3: I think he'll be pass catcher two on draft day too,

724
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 3: unless he blows out a knee or something crazy. Yeah,

725
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 3: he's a special dude.

726
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 2: I mean they run jets, sweeps and stuff with him.

727
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean he's a better prospect than Pitts was.

728
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 3: And that's easy to say now because Pitts hasn't done great.

729
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 3: But he's a better prospect than Pitts was.

730
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 2: H At twenty three, Brayln Trice ed rusher out of Washington.

731
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 2: He's more of a true four to three and I.

732
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 3: Think he's a two sixty five to seventy ishue.

733
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. At twenty four, Keon Coleman wide receiver out of

734
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 2: Florida State, he's a he's.

735
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 3: A huge one, yeah, big, But if that's pursued about him,

736
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 3: I think he's a Michigan State trans.

737
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 2: He was a Michigan State transfer. At twenty five, Kaylan

738
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 2: King cornerback out of Penn State.

739
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, he played opposite porter and he's been mocked in

740
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 3: the first round ever since. At twenty people picked on

741
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 3: him when they didn't thrown a porter and it didn't

742
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 3: go well for either, to be honest.

743
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 2: At twenty six, j t Toamalo edge rusher out of

744
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 2: Ohio State, another he's a five star yeah, four to

745
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 2: three n type though.

746
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think he's been a little inconsistent. Don't

747
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 3: quote me on that, but I think he's super talented.

748
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 2: Probably test really well. Yeah.

749
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 3: Yeah.

750
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 2: At twenty seven, Josh Newton cornerback out of TCU.

751
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 3: Okay, I think he was their best corner Well, I

752
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 3: don't say that because Tomlinson was really good for them,

753
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 3: but he's a small.

754
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 2: At twenty eight Leonard Taylor junior or the third I

755
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 2: should say, a defensive lineman from Miami.

756
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I don't think it's a great dtackle group.

757
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 2: At twenty nine is Jechavian Sanders, the tight end out

758
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 2: of Texas. He is super ethol, Yes he is. He's

759
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 2: another big, tall receiver type power forward.

760
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.

761
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 2: At thirty is Barrett Carter, linebacker at A Clemson.

762
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 3: They have two that are in the first round. Man, Yeah,

763
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 3: he's the better athlete. Thirty one Trotter's kid.

764
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,280
Speaker 2: Yeah. Thirty one is Tyler Neuban safety at A Minnesota.

765
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 3: He's having a phenomenal year from what I understand. I

766
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 3: watched a lot of them, but Minnesota's pretty good this year.

767
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:25,439
Speaker 3: And then at.

768
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 2: Thirty two is Rome odor Donze, wide receiver aut of Washington.

769
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:30,879
Speaker 3: I think they have two.

770
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 2: They get a couple of guys. Yeah, and so that's

771
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 2: your first round as right now. Again, halfway through the season,

772
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 2: we're starting to get a better grasp on sure where

773
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 2: guys are going to end up at.

774
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean the college seasons further along in

775
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 3: the NFL season too. I mean, I don't know how

776
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 3: many games most teams have. I mean, obviously quite a few.

777
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,479
Speaker 3: But you got a lot of games under your belt

778
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 3: too for draftnicks.

779
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's Ryan Wilson's mock draft in the order.

780
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 2: I didn't really read the teams there. Yeah, that's that's

781
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 2: kind of the order.

782
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 3: Ryan Ala has joined us for the combine too, and

783
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 3: good dude, Yeah.

784
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 2: Does a good job with that. Always appreciate that when

785
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 2: he does that. We're gonna get to another break. He

786
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Speaker 2: is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to

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Speaker 2: the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back

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00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 2: to finish up the show right after this.

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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

790
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 1: and Gold in Steelers Nation Radio.

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00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 2: Welcome back. I'm Dale LOLLI he is the Matt Williamson

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00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 2: and this is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio. And

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00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 2: Matt one to just a couple of housekeeping items here,

795
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 2: things being said done, whatever in the media stuff. So

796
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 2: Raven's linebacker Patrick Queen, we spoke to reporters this week.

797
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,919
Speaker 2: He said he's he hates the Steelers and the reason

798
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 2: hit for he hates us. Why he hates the Steeler,

799
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 2: He says, Mike Tomlin made some disrespectful comments to him

800
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Speaker 2: in his rookie year.

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00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 3: Oh did he yeah, like to him directly or to the.

802
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 2: Apparently he said, when I was on the side, I

803
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 2: was on the sideline, their sideline my rookie year, Mike

804
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,280
Speaker 2: Tomlin was looking at me yelling, You're not a raven.

805
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 2: You're not a raven. You're not supposed to be there.

806
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 2: You're not one of them. So every time I play them,

807
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,720
Speaker 2: there's something personal. Uh. Queen was asked if Tomlin was joking.

808
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 2: I said, I don't care if he was joking. I

809
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 2: don't care if he was serious. At the end of

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00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 2: the day, I'm on your sideline and you're telling me

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Speaker 2: I'm not a raven. That's kind of disrespectful Mike tom

812
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,959
Speaker 2: First of all, Mike Tomlan does talk to players.

813
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 3: Like you hear them. I mean, you see him, guys,

814
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 3: He's taking.

815
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 2: To dinner and stuff like that. He has a little

816
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 2: bit of a relationship. Here's the thing, Patrick, if you're

817
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 2: that ticked off about it, why is are the Ravens

818
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:41,280
Speaker 2: one in five in your career since you joined the Ravens.

819
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 2: It's that it's that disrespectful and it meant that much

820
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,240
Speaker 2: to you that you've won one time at a six meetings.

821
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 3: I mean, I assume if that's true, and the way

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00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 3: Tomlin phrased it was, you're not good enough to be

823
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,280
Speaker 3: a Rave. He's given the organization respect.

824
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,399
Speaker 2: No, what he's I think what he is saying there

825
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 2: is he's, hey, we wanted you here. You shouldn't be

826
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 2: a Raven. That kind of stuff. When he talked to

827
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 2: Chase Young a couple of years ago, so I.

828
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 3: Thought he meant like he's not worthy of being No.

829
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 2: No, no, I think it was like, yeah, man, come on,

830
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 2: you're not a Raven. You can't be like I like.

831
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 2: I like you too much, you can't be a Raven.

832
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 3: The Ravens didn't pick up.

833
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 2: They don't like him either. Yeah, he may not be

834
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 2: a Raven after this year.

835
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 3: Maybe get a crack at him after this year if

836
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 3: you like to Chase Young stuff.

837
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:21,839
Speaker 2: When he says, man, I'd love to have a shot

838
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 2: to draft you, but we're never in that position, it.

839
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 3: Means it's a compliment. That's different than I thought. He

840
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 3: was given the organization.

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00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 2: I don't think, No, I don't think Tom Win ever

842
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,439
Speaker 2: ever would talk to a player like that, just knowing

843
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 2: you know, how he interacts with you. No, that I

844
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 2: don't think when he talks to players on this Yeah,

845
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,800
Speaker 2: when he talks to players on the sideline, it's always

846
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 2: good natured. It's never you know, yeah nasty.

847
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 3: Yeah that that well, I don't know. I mean, I'm

848
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,760
Speaker 3: not an athlete, but a lot of athletes need whatever

849
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 3: motivation they can.

850
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 2: You need to get you need to get motivated to

851
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 2: play a football game by stuff like that, and you're

852
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 2: probably once a yeah, you're probably not. I don't know.

853
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 2: I have to I have to kind of question your

854
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 2: mental fortitude.

855
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 3: I'm surprised to even say it. The media like, who cares?

856
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 2: Keep that to yourself? Which brings me to speaking of

857
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 2: who looks good in the situation. I wasn't even aware

858
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,320
Speaker 2: of this until last night. I'm kind of torn around you,

859
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,760
Speaker 2: and I was. You know, when you're traveling and stuff,

860
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 2: you get kind of caught up, and that you're getting

861
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 2: catching up on sleep and things of that nature. Matt

862
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 2: the Matt Canada Burner accounts is the most ridiculous, childish

863
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 2: thing that some fan out there could do.

864
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 3: That. I said the headline for it and never even

865
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 3: thought twice about it.

866
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 2: People people were picking up on this like this was

867
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Speaker 2: a real thing. I hope whatever moron out there created

868
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 2: this thing and and tried to pass it off as like,

869
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 2: come on, First of all, nobody's getting caught with a

870
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 2: burner in twenty twenty three.

871
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 3: See, I don't even know.

872
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 2: A second account. Too many people over the last decade

873
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,800
Speaker 2: have gotten caught doing stuff like that that you have

874
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 2: to believe nobody's nobody's going to be stupid enough to

875
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 2: do it, let alone that the person who did it

876
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:25,919
Speaker 2: then put in an email address there's one hundred percent

877
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 2: not what the Steelers use.

878
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 3: Every NFL team has, like the every NFL employee kind

879
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 3: of has the same emails.

880
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 2: The same email address.

881
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's there's you could figure it out. Doesn't

882
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 3: mean it took me.

883
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 2: Like I saw it. Somebody mentioned somebody said something about

884
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 2: Canada burner account. So I'll google, I'll bite, I'll google

885
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 2: and see what this is. And I look at it

886
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 2: and I'm like, well, that's obviously fake. People picked up

887
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 2: on this stuff and ram with it like it was

888
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 2: something that was true. I just don't get it. And

889
00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 2: it got to the point where newspapers and websites are

890
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 2: writing story you know, Matt Canada might have a burner account.

891
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 2: It's not true, true, it's ridiculous. And he was asked

892
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,320
Speaker 2: about the he was and he was asked about his

893
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 2: press conference today. You have to be a moron to

894
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 2: believe that this was the case.

895
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, so this year, as you know, I go to

896
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 3: the facility every Thursday. That's a new thing in twenty

897
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 3: twenty three. And I guess because the offensive coordinator press

898
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 3: conference had just happened. This was topical when we're all

899
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 3: eating lunch and afterwards, and it came up with a

900
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 3: couple of the video folks were with and they're like,

901
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 3: I work for the Steelers, I work for the NFL.

902
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 3: I know my email address. I can tell you what

903
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 3: his is. And it's not the same. It's not that

904
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 3: it's not that I tell you what they are, but

905
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 3: it's not the same. It's somebody thought they were cute.

906
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 2: That it's devolved into this, and like, if I even

907
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 2: write the words Matt Canada or say something, write a

908
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 2: story about Matt Cannon something.

909
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 3: He said, we don't even have to bring the name up,

910
00:40:59,200 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 3: the stuff that like.

911
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 2: You know, call him a scumbag, called you don't know anything.

912
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 3: Hey, you don't know what.

913
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 2: You can disagree with what he's doing on the field,

914
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 2: that right as a fan, But to make it personal

915
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 2: and go after the guy and you're being counterproductive over

916
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 2: about what you want to see happen here.

917
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 3: That kind of stuff in sports makes me crazy, like

918
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 3: drives me crazy. I think I mentioned this earlier in

919
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 3: the week. My kids or my son is the same

920
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 3: age as Todd Hayley's son at USC there was a

921
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 3: stretch where he couldn't go to go to school.

922
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,919
Speaker 2: He was like seven, Yeah, you know, come on, because

923
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 2: these guys have families, they have people that they care

924
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 2: about them.

925
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 3: Your dad's terrible blah blah blah blah blah.

926
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 2: Yeah to the vitriol and the anguish. And we're four

927
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:50,359
Speaker 2: games into a season. Uh you heard what. I don't

928
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 2: know if you saw what Najia Harris came out and

929
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 2: said yesterday, but he said, look, it's not it's not

930
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,760
Speaker 2: on the coaching staff here, it's the players we're not playing.

931
00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, it's on everybody.

932
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 2: It's on There's no if there was one person that

933
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 2: that would fix what's going on with the Steelers offerends

934
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 2: right now. It would get fixed. But it's not just

935
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 2: one thing.

936
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 3: If it was we need a new left guard or

937
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 3: a new tight end or whatever, or a new coordinator

938
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 3: or a new.

939
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 2: You know whatever, it would get fixed.

940
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 3: So I adore my job, but this has not been

941
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 3: my favorite week of doing my job.

942
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 2: No.

943
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 3: You know. For example, yesterday I put out a tweet

944
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 3: that I just cut and pasted from my stat packet

945
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,760
Speaker 3: that is just a fact. Boom, here is something about

946
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 3: the offense how it matches up with the Ravens defense.

947
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 3: I get like three tweets. One of them is just

948
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 3: in all caps, why can't you admit that that Canada

949
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 3: is the problem. I didn't even mention his name, you know,

950
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 3: Like that's how the whole week.

951
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 2: Is just three replies because I honestly i've had anything.

952
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 2: I've had to basically shut off my social media this

953
00:42:53,760 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 2: week because the vitriol right if if again, as I

954
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 2: wrote after the game, somehow the defense gets a complete

955
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 2: and utter pass for what happened in that game on Sunday,

956
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 2: It's all about the It's all the offense's fault. Somebody's

957
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,359
Speaker 2: like people. People actually came out and said to me, well,

958
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 2: how's the defense supposed to do that? When they're on

959
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 2: the field doing the entire game. They give up a

960
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 2: twelve play touchdown drive on the opening series of the game.

961
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 2: The offense hadn't even been on the field yet. Were

962
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:25,760
Speaker 2: they tired?

963
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 3: Then?

964
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 2: Then the offense goes out and gets two first downs,

965
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 2: and the defense goes out and gives up another scoring drive.

966
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 2: Were they tired?

967
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 3: And I don't think all those backup offensive linemen are

968
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 3: going to turn into future Pro Bowl I just I

969
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 3: don't know what.

970
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 2: I get it. We latch onto one thing and it

971
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 2: becomes that that that that that, Yeah, it's nuts. But

972
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 2: here's the thing, folks, I don't want to have to

973
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 2: hear about it all the time. I can't do anything

974
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 2: about it. You can't do anything about it. It's not

975
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 2: our decisions to make it. To think that, to think

976
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 2: that it is to think that we have any kind

977
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,879
Speaker 2: of say over what happens. We're we held, we asked

978
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 2: to question more.

979
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 3: Than it would happen.

980
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 2: That's not how it works.

981
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 3: Right, every minute of my day and every dollar and

982
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 3: every resource I own, and it wouldn't change change that thing.

983
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 2: Nothing right.

984
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 3: If if if my whole goal was to get Boswell

985
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 3: cut or I couldn't do it, please stop asking me to.

986
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,320
Speaker 2: I just you know, why can't you admit this or

987
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 2: why can't you admit that? If I thought that was

988
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:27,839
Speaker 2: the case, if I thought it was just one thing,

989
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 2: I would say it. But it's not just one thing.

990
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 3: With this team right now, they need one corner to

991
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 3: make this defense the seventy Steelers, I'd say, go get

992
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 3: a corner.

993
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 2: You know, But that's not the case.

994
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 3: There's a lot of problems.

995
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 2: It's not all on it's not all on that Canada. Yeah,

996
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 2: there are problems beyond that, and we've talked about them.

997
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 2: The quarterback is not playing well. The offensive line is

998
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 2: not playing well. The quarter you know, the coordinator, who

999
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 2: who's calling the plays right now doesn't matter a hill

1000
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 2: of beans because right now, the guys they are the

1001
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 2: product on the field, The guys who go out and

1002
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 2: try to execute the plays are not playing up to standard.

1003
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 3: Not to mention, please at least think it through. If

1004
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 3: it were to happen, if you folks out there that

1005
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 3: want this to happen, became king of the world and

1006
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 3: you we were one wish and you could have it,

1007
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 3: then what would happen? Then?

1008
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:16,839
Speaker 2: What? Then?

1009
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 3: What I mean? I don't think you're going to hire

1010
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 3: Vince Lombardi tomorrow, you know what I mean? Like? Then?

1011
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 2: What?

1012
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 3: Okay? You know, like they're gonna play Sunday, right, I

1013
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 3: just like I wish I wasn't on Twitter. I shouldn't

1014
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:33,479
Speaker 3: tweet anything.

1015
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 2: I get it. I mean, the Steelers played poorly on Sunday,

1016
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 2: and I get it. You didn't come on to this

1017
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,439
Speaker 2: show on Steelers Nation Radio and you're, well, they played

1018
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 2: really well on Sunday, but they lost. No, right they didn't.

1019
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 3: And frankly, I adore your guy's passion. We have it

1020
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 3: and fandom. And when I was a teenager, I would

1021
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 3: call them the Stan Savern Show and I had this

1022
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 3: big plan how they could trade for Marcus Allen. You

1023
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 3: know what if they trade this first pick and Meriweather

1024
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 3: and blah blah blah and you know, stand flatter me

1025
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 3: and that guy. I know what it's like.

1026
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 2: But yeah, come on, yeah, anyways, that's gonna do it

1027
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 2: for today's show. This is our chance to vent a

1028
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 2: little bit, because I don't want to vent on social

1029
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 2: media because that just turns into.

1030
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 3: A bad thing. I gotta listen to responses.

1031
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, or I guess I don't.

1032
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 3: Response.

1033
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 2: There will be responses, but we're gonna tell you that's

1034
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 2: gonna do it for today's show. For my partner Matt Williamson,

1035
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 2: for Justin Miller here keeping us on on the air, uh,

1036
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,720
Speaker 2: and well getting Bob Labriola on the air. We appreciate

1037
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,800
Speaker 2: Bob stopping by. I'm Dale, Allie. We also appreciate you

1038
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 2: listening to this edition of the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio.