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Speaker 1: dot Com. Hello and welcome to this week's edition of

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Speaker 1: the Seahawks Insider podcast. I'm Jen Mueller, sideline reporter for

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Speaker 1: the Seahawks, joined by John Boyle from Seahawks dot Com.

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Speaker 1: Hello Jen, Hello John. I'm well and you know what,

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Speaker 1: it's just the two of us today because Aaron apparently

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Speaker 1: has better things to do. I am getting ready for

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Speaker 1: the holidays. I knowing with us, I know, especially when

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Speaker 1: we have such a fun podcast coming up. Yeah, there's

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Speaker 1: gonna be the best whatever. And he won't be here,

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Speaker 1: and you know what, he won't get to do answer

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Speaker 1: this question from me. Because it is the holiday time.

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Speaker 1: I am sure that the tree is up, the packages

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Speaker 1: are all wrapped, the Seahawks are playing on Christmas Eve.

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Speaker 1: You probably watched your favorite holiday movie at least I

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Speaker 1: don't know what five times by now, not yet. Well,

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Speaker 1: my wife loves are those Hallmark Channel really cheesy Christmas movies?

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Speaker 1: So we have those on a lot. The most like Predicab.

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Speaker 1: There's about five fought lines they all follow. It's like

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Speaker 1: it's like the businessman or woman who's too focused on

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Speaker 1: Or there's the saving a dying business jo some Christmas

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Speaker 1: it and finds love. Yeah, it always ends with finding

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Speaker 1: always Christmas joy and finding love. Right. They're kind of awful,

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Speaker 1: but they're easy to watch. Yeah, see the truth comes out.

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Speaker 1: this works. Fine. Well, then here's my question. What is

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Speaker 1: your favorite Christmas movie and what's your favorite line? Um?

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Speaker 1: to beat Christmas Vacation. Of course. I'm a big fan

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Speaker 1: of Elf. That has a lot of good quotable lines.

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Speaker 1: So give me one, because you're supposed to give me

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Speaker 1: your favorite. I like, it's not really it's kind of

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Speaker 1: The line that I love from Christmas Vacation, which I

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Speaker 1: Speaking of Christmas, interesting conversation with kJ Wright today, who

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Speaker 1: maybe a religious thing, right, you know, we want to

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Speaker 1: And he just doesn't want his son to be disappointed

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Speaker 1: I know that this is a bad idea. Yes it is.

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Speaker 1: And one thing Bobby talked about out yesterday is when

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Speaker 1: to do that. And then you know why these big storylines.

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Speaker 1: People are looking kind of for the good, juicy storyline.

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Speaker 1: Christmas the movie, but a good quote there you go, Well,

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Speaker 1: thank you for giving me credit for that one. While

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Speaker 1: it's not the end of the era for the Seahawks,

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Speaker 1: it is, in fact the end of our Seahawks Insider

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Speaker 1: podcast US We got another one coming your way next week,

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Speaker 1: and hopefully we'll be talking about some juicy storylines like

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Speaker 1: against the Cowboys. Until then, for John, I'm jed. Thanks

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