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Speaker 1: So our thoughts and prayers. Who got the Marcus and

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Speaker 1: the Bengals. You know, I'd say this is a team

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Speaker 1: This guy's been in for eighteen years and knowing him personally,

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Speaker 1: best coaches in the National Football League. He's a tremendous

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Speaker 1: This is a very talented group of players. They play hard.

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