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Speaker 1: One of the reasons that George liked me when we

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Speaker 2: Hello, Rebels family, Welcome to Rebels Talk, our conversation sub

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Speaker 2: series here at the Potter Rebellion, where we of course

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Speaker 2: talk all thinks star wars, rebels and star Wars in general,

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Speaker 2: but also things life in general, and where we really

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Speaker 2: course I'm not alone today and this is where this

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Speaker 2: is where my intros usually come in. But today feel

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Speaker 2: little different and channel the great Nicholas Cage to introduce everybody.

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Speaker 2: So just give me a moment. So first up, she's

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Speaker 2: our leader. She's really cool. She's also my ghost rider,

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Speaker 2: the voice of Hairs Duelove Vanessa Marshall. And then next

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Speaker 2: she's a real national treasure. She's kick ass the voices

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Speaker 2: Air so good at leaves me moonstruck, the voice of

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Speaker 2: Ezra Bridge or Taylor Gray. And then this guy, our producer,

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Speaker 2: lights cameras, microphones, suspitching technology and you'll fact check your

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Speaker 2: face off, Jacy Riefenberg. And then our special guests who

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Speaker 2: you know what they say about about cays keys are good.

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Speaker 2: And he holds the case of the Star Wars Rebels Kingdom.

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Speaker 2: He's a real Star Wars family man, Henry Gilroy And

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Speaker 1: Wow, fantastic.

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Speaker 3: That's the best number one so far, thirty episodes of

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Speaker 1: That's the best one.

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Speaker 4: I couldn't say hello, I was crying.

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Speaker 1: So good.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, John, You're welcome.

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Speaker 2: It was either that or was going to be panic

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Speaker 2: Because you know Mark Wahlberg when he gets panicked in

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Speaker 2: I'll see any really funny, you know, So that's that's

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Speaker 2: that's Mark Wahlberg and everything.

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Speaker 5: Henry, I think you know who to cast in your

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Speaker 1: Nicholas Cage.

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Speaker 2: Well, Henry, thanks for coming back and joining us, and

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Speaker 2: thank you to Cage for for letting me channel your

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I was born and raised in La, you know.

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Speaker 1: It sounded very correct to me. So you have there

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Speaker 1: Nine, Henry.

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Speaker 1: What would you change? Wow? My god? Wow, Okay, this

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Speaker 1: is easy. Oh so take that and Rebels season five,

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Speaker 1: stuff we've seen before, and it's fan service, but also

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Speaker 1: it's the fan and the filmmaker. That fan filmmaker wants

436
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Speaker 1: to kind of do stuff and people are like, Oh, yeah,

437
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Speaker 1: that's that's a Star Wars like the rank Ord, that's

438
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Speaker 1: a Star Wars flavor that people like, we know, we

439
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 1: can like license that and put it in the commercial

440
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,240
Speaker 1: and all that stuff. Same thing with you know, quote

441
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Speaker 1: unquote grog Baby Yoda, right, Like, that's they It's definitely

442
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,840
Speaker 1: part of how you sell the series. You know, it's

443
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Speaker 1: by putting in those elements that people like. And So,

444
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 1: but I think what probably realized with and Or Which

445
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:04,400
Speaker 1: is like, oh, he's going to tell a completely different

446
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Speaker 1: kind of Star Wars story. It doesn't have Jedi and

447
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,120
Speaker 1: it doesn't have the Force, and oh my gosh, it's

448
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 1: the best thing we've seen because it's fresh, it's new.

449
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,720
Speaker 1: It's not the same flavor again, you know what I mean. So,

450
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Speaker 1: that's that's key to I don't think anyone ever wants

451
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Speaker 1: to tell a bad Star Wars story. I just think

452
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Speaker 1: that they put a lot of stuff out that maybe

453
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Speaker 1: wasn't the Star Wars were used to, right, So you know,

454
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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want to talk bad about anybody's

455
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Speaker 1: work on Stars and I think it's really hard and

456
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 1: so much effort goes in it by so many people.

457
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Speaker 1: I think anything you know that you make at this

458
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Speaker 1: quality is to be applauded. It's just do I do

459
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Speaker 1: think that people lose sight of what it is. They forget.

460
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Speaker 6: Yeah, in a light note of like where star Like,

461
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Speaker 6: you've created great Star Wars already, so that's it. But like,

462
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Speaker 6: if you were to do something new, what is your

463
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Speaker 6: favorite time outside of Clone Wars and Rebels? Because you

464
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Speaker 6: wrote that that you would create something. I just I

465
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Speaker 6: think fans often I always hear that at conventions, like

466
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Speaker 6: I love this part of Star Wars or this part

467
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Speaker 6: of the timeline for you, what is that? I'm just

468
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Speaker 6: trying to think, so boy.

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Speaker 1: I I yeah, I mean, I have a special affinity

470
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Speaker 1: to the original characters. But you know the fact that

471
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Speaker 1: I was fortunate enough to work with you guys on Rebels.

472
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Speaker 1: I could totally do Rebel steal in six, you know

473
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Speaker 1: what I mean?

474
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Speaker 4: Well, what about a prequel? What about a prequel?

475
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Speaker 1: Like a prequel Rebels. Yeah, that's cool, that'd be a

476
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Speaker 1: great idea.

477
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Speaker 4: Yeah, how do we all?

478
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Speaker 9: I mean, I know we have a new Dawn John

479
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Speaker 9: Jackson Miller's look, which was helpful for me to understand

480
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Speaker 9: how Canaan happened. But people have said to us that

481
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Speaker 9: they would love a prequel thing. I'm just so curious.

482
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Speaker 9: I think it would be really cool to know.

483
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Speaker 1: Could we do a radio drama? Right? Just like, that's great.

484
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Speaker 3: Right right now, whole story and just like if we

485
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Speaker 3: wanted to run parallel. We just never refer to like

486
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Speaker 3: Ezra as Ezra. He's like Jenny Joy.

487
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Speaker 1: Ezra and we have carn like we do.

488
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Speaker 3: It's almost like Zack Snyder did with Rebel Dawn where

489
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Speaker 3: he was like, I want to make a Star Wars

490
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Speaker 3: movie and Lucas films like no we saw Super Members,

491
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Speaker 3: Batman in no way, and then he did Star Wars

492
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Speaker 3: movie anyway and just called it Rebel Dawn.

493
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Speaker 1: Could we do that with with this and just be

494
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Speaker 1: like not to check you.

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Speaker 2: JC was rebel Moon, But Moon, I don't want people

496
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Speaker 2: add adding you in fact checker obvious.

497
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Speaker 3: Really, I'm a much bigger fan of rebels than I

498
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Speaker 3: am of Zack Snyder.

499
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Speaker 1: Would you care to elaborate and watch the comment section

500
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Speaker 1: go nuts? Anyway?

501
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Speaker 2: Just like what we're doing here. I like where we're

502
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,919
Speaker 2: going here. We're kind of breaking story on this, Henry.

503
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Speaker 2: Do you think maybe, and maybe it's probably not good

504
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Speaker 2: for me to blow your cover here? But what if

505
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Speaker 2: you pulled like a Stephen King, like Richard Bachman, you

506
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 2: don't write as Henry Gilroy, and we can just kind

507
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,119
Speaker 2: of like you can be quietly in the shadows, be consulting,

508
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 2: not under Henry Gilroy.

509
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Speaker 10: Again, I know, like on think I'm a pitch meeting,

510
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Speaker 10: write something, No I I yeah, I would buy my

511
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Speaker 10: pleasure to work on something like that, you know, especially

512
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Speaker 10: with you guys.

513
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Speaker 1: You know, I guess John You're gonna be Hondo for us.

514
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 8: Oh right, right, Marky Mark as Hondo is going to

515
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Speaker 8: pay you more.

516
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Speaker 1: Ryan Reynolds will be Honda.

517
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Speaker 2: He'll be like, oh hey there, yeah, I'm just gonna

518
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Speaker 2: be in a peris in the galaxy and maybe see Deadpool.

519
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,360
Speaker 1: What's going on? Here, yeah, something like that.

520
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Speaker 4: Speaking of Hondos.

521
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Speaker 5: Sorry this is maybe a leading question, but Henry, I

522
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 5: was curious, I don't recall ever improvising as Sabine, Like,

523
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 5: I just thought, I don't know, you guys, like, do

524
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Speaker 5: you remember I don't recall like and I, you know,

525
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,400
Speaker 5: do a lot of comedy a live action where there's

526
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 5: tons of improvisation going on, but we never I mean

527
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Speaker 5: I never a I didn't feel like I could, but

528
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Speaker 5: I also don't never felt like I needed to. I mean,

529
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Speaker 5: there was the writing was all all there, but I

530
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Speaker 5: was watching I forget which episode I was watching, but

531
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Speaker 5: I was like, I feel like a lot of Hondo's

532
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Speaker 5: nines are improvised, and I was curious if that's true.

533
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Speaker 4: Or did Jim Cummings just.

534
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Speaker 5: Like go to town or did you Was it all of

535
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 5: that scripted?

536
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Jim totally with improvise as needed. We get

537
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Speaker 1: three different takes from him where he would put in

538
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 1: some funny stuff. Yeah, so she's so funny generally speaking.

539
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,679
Speaker 1: The thing that would hurt us why we are so

540
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 1: like kind of strict with your lines was because we'd

541
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Speaker 1: already cut the animatic to time. We knew we had

542
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Speaker 1: twenty two thirty whatever, because at that point we're still

543
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Speaker 1: on you know, like Disney XD or whatever, right, so

544
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 1: we we couldn't go over It isn't like you know,

545
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Speaker 1: Netflix or whatever where you can kind of have like

546
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Speaker 1: a you know, fluid running time. It was very strict,

547
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Speaker 1: so we kind of had to hit that. And if anything,

548
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 1: we've noticed that your deliveries were slightly faster than the scratch.

549
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Speaker 4: Really wow, Fish, that's good.

550
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess I remember more intense Gin.

551
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Speaker 6: We would have to improvise. We would have to improvise

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Speaker 6: with Gin. That's like when I remember is when Jim

553
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Speaker 6: would be there then being like, yeah, I mean I

554
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Speaker 6: guess we have to say something new because he just yeah.

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Speaker 1: Those were the.

556
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Speaker 6: Times I remember like, all right, well, I mean we're

557
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Speaker 6: gonna have to say.

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Speaker 1: Something to Well.

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Speaker 5: For the for the record, I wasn't I don't mind

560
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Speaker 5: that we didn't improvise. I I was happy to just

561
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Speaker 5: perform what was scripted because it was so great. But

562
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Speaker 5: I just meant, when I have been as we've been

563
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Speaker 5: rewatching these episodes, when I see Hondo, I'm like, surely

564
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Speaker 5: they did not script that. That was just him off

565
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Speaker 5: the cuff, just hilarious. You know, all of these like

566
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Speaker 5: just the like just the flavor, you know, his his

567
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Speaker 5: like additional I don't know, buttons and kind of asides

568
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Speaker 5: and things are so funny.

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Speaker 4: But I was I just was.

570
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Speaker 5: Sure that a lot of that must have been improvised.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think Also to give Jim a hint,

572
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Speaker 1: I would put in the scene description, not like a

573
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Speaker 1: parent that in the scene description Hondo like tap dancing

574
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Speaker 1: for his life, you know, like when he's trying to

575
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Speaker 1: I get out of like you know the thing with

576
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Speaker 1: So even though I have a line written, we'd let

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Speaker 1: We'd let him. Yeah, I go.

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Speaker 5: I'm glad because it's so it's so good. He's he's

579
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Speaker 5: one of maybe I don't remember feeling this way necessarily before,

580
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Speaker 5: but now I'm like, is he my favorite characters show?

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Speaker 4: Do you remember him with his drumsticks in between two?

582
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Speaker 3: Yeah?

583
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, ironically right in.

584
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Speaker 5: The middle, sitting on his like throne, not thrown just

585
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Speaker 5: like a high chair, with his drumstick like.

586
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Speaker 9: A jazz musician, scattering between like get it back at it.

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Speaker 4: You know, he he was really in the moment.

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Speaker 1: His name originally was Honda Onaka. I named him after

589
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Speaker 1: to the two creators of Godzilla, Honda, Anka and then George.

590
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 1: Basically he would do this all the time. He saw

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Speaker 1: the name of Hono Knaka, he just turned the the

592
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Speaker 1: the a into ah to may be came a Honda,

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Speaker 1: which I always stop was funny.

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Speaker 5: Hey, Henry, maybe you can tell us this so well,

595
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 5: no discussing Ahsoka's name. A few episodes ago and we

596
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 5: were talking about Shoka, the Indian emperor.

597
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, so yeah, you want to know the secret

598
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: history of so We. I had named her Ashla, which

599
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: was like the name of the force or whatever. And

600
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: George saw the name and he's like, he's carving that book.

601
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: We're in his office and I said what book and

602
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: he's like, it's a book on history right behind you.

603
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I pullo shelf and it's basically famous

604
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: personalities from history. So he opened it and went down

605
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Speaker 1: a until he saw a Shoka and he said, that's it,

606
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: a Shoka. And I was like, you want to name

607
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: her after the Indian prince? Are you sure? Is that confusing?

608
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 1: And he's like, no, I like it. I like it,

609
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: We'll keep it. So but I didn't like it, so

610
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 1: I kept misspelling it. To Ahska so it wouldn't just

611
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 1: be a shoka. And he corrected it with a pencil

612
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: a few times, and finally he's like, oh, you know,

613
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: I kind of like a soca.

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00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 5: You you you've sort of like bamboozled him a little.

615
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 1: Bit, a little bit, Yeah, yeah, yeah, but you know,

616
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Speaker 1: I remember I created a rugosa I think was the

617
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: name of some planet. He's like, who's making up the

618
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: names of these planets? Now? On only I make up

619
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Speaker 1: names of the planets.

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Speaker 4: That's incredible.

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Speaker 1: I asked a.

622
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Speaker 3: Question about that, names of planets and things and and

623
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Speaker 3: this may be so far to left field that and

624
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 3: you may have no idea, but I had heard that

625
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 3: on the prequels, and I'm assuming clone that the way

626
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 3: that George went about developing a planet name and species

627
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 3: and technology is that he would pick people who were

628
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 3: like technology people and botany and you know, it's kind

629
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Speaker 3: of great at each of the different things that would

630
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 3: go into creating a civilization and put them in a

631
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 3: room and ask them to come up with stuff collaboratively.

632
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 3: So like on Uda Paw, you know, the sinkholes the

633
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:40,959
Speaker 3: species that were from Utapaw reflected living in sinkholes, and

634
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 3: the alien life forms and the technology and all of

635
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 3: that was very cohesive, and that after George specifically, which

636
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 3: you probably can't talk to like the seven, eight, and nine,

637
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 3: but that it was they tried to like it in

638
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 3: order to keep the secrets. So it would be like,

639
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 3: come up with eight planet names, come up with eight

640
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 3: planet geographies, come up with eight this, and then the

641
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 3: head people would kind of like pick and choose their favorite.

642
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 3: Was your experience with George that he would kind of

643
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 3: more holistically design these things from the ground up.

644
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that I've never heard that theory before. It

645
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 1: definitely wasn't part of what we did on Clone Wars.

646
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: You know, it would be like you know, Jaba's like

647
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 1: sign wrote it right of the hut, like they named him.

648
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 1: But he created the Ahsoka's nickname Punky Muffin because his

649
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 1: daughter's dog was named Punky Muffin. So that's like and

650
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,359
Speaker 1: that's kind of like been a thing like Indiana was

651
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 1: George's dog's name for Indiana Jones, So that whole thing

652
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 1: is Yeah, I never heard that. I think that he

653
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: probably did do research. He had research people do what

654
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: exactly what you're talking about, jac when it came to

655
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: stuff but I think the names he would just go

656
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: with what you know sounds cool. I always tried to

657
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: put in like making up names that kind of somehow

658
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 1: reflected the geography or like you were saying to people,

659
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: you know, the species, or the mood. Most often it

660
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,280
Speaker 1: was like, what's the mood of this world? Right?

661
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:30,800
Speaker 5: Well, two things.

662
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 8: One one is that.

663
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 5: I think one of the greatest Star Wars names of

664
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 5: all time is Killian Plunkett. Is his actual name, the

665
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,879
Speaker 5: actual name of real life person I wonder is a

666
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 5: young person did Killian Plunket go?

667
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,280
Speaker 4: Well, I have to work for Star Wars.

668
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:52,879
Speaker 1: Killian Plunkett. Actually I'm responsible for getting Killing into the show.

669
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: He was artist. Yeah, yeah, and I did name. There

670
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,800
Speaker 1: is a plunk Droid that I did name.

671
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 4: After him, that's right, that's right, as you show.

672
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,399
Speaker 1: Yes's and that's Clone Wars. I think the plunk Droy

673
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: is in Clone. I think that it's even a faction figure,

674
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 1: which is probably a dream come true for Killing.

675
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 5: And also I just wanted to as a last thing

676
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 5: on the Yohsoka thing, thank you for sharing that, by

677
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 5: the way, because we were really trying to dig deep

678
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 5: and figure it out, and here you are and it's you,

679
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 5: You're the answer. But I, as an Indian person, I

680
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 5: think it's I think you gaslighting. Gas Lighting George into

681
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 5: ah Soca rather than a Shoka was the move because

682
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 5: it's a very very obviously famous historical figure but a

683
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:44,919
Speaker 5: very common Indian man's name, so you know that would

684
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 5: have been I think the Soka is brilliant genius.

685
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: Oh, thank you?

686
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,879
Speaker 6: And do you have I'm thinking of conventions too, And

687
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 6: like people listening to this, what they're probably like screaming.

688
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 6: I hear often people saying they want to get into

689
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 6: acting on you and voicing, but also like they want

690
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 6: to get into creating Star Wars and they always have

691
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 6: bears and stuff. And I don't even mean this to

692
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 6: pertain to Star Wars in general, but just like young writers,

693
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 6: what advice would you give to young writers today, just

694
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 6: in a sort of holistic.

695
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 1: Sense, Yeah, just right, write what you want. I mean,

696
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: I think that there's a lot of people who are

697
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: creating a really awesome fan fiction. You know. Actually a

698
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: project that you and I collaborated on, Taylor and hopefully

699
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: we'll get it off the ground is this web series

700
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 1: called Mother of Learning. And there was this guy who's

701
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: an accountant there's in Eastern Europe. He just started writing

702
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: a fantasy book and he wrote like it took a

703
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 1: nine years, but people love it. They turn it in

704
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 1: an audio book and it's also like a kindle and

705
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: people read it online. So I think it had like

706
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: seventeen million reads. And we developed it as an anime

707
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 1: and Taylor kind of did a test for us, but

708
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 1: he just wrote it because he wanted to it. You know.

709
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 1: He filled you know, three three and a half thousand

710
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:08,399
Speaker 1: pages full of fantasy, you know, over nine you know,

711
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,439
Speaker 1: years of this thing, you know, and the spare time,

712
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: and people love it and it's a great story and

713
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 1: kind of Harry Potter meet. It's like a time loop,

714
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: that's sure. But yeah, my advice is just to write,

715
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 1: you know, because I think a lot of people say,

716
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 1: I want to write, we'll do it. No, just just

717
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 1: start doing it. And it's you know, I think with

718
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: technology now and animation, you want to do something animated,

719
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 1: you kind of have all the tools in your laptop

720
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 1: now to make something. You just have to be be

721
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,839
Speaker 1: ready and be willing and be able to fail all

722
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 1: the time. Like you know, you know, the ideas that

723
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: I slipped under the door of the Batman producers, like

724
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,800
Speaker 1: I did it for weeks and before they finally said okay, fine,

725
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 1: so yeah, don't give up, but just keep writing, you

726
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 1: know if and the same thing with that and everything else.

727
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, I love that, just going.

728
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 2: And under you know, the under the common denominated there.

729
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,760
Speaker 2: What I hear from you just talking about your craft,

730
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 2: Henry's is you know, they say the secret ingredients love,

731
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 2: but it is like you got to have a passion

732
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 2: for it. I think anyone who's ever been elite at anything. Look,

733
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 2: we bring up Kobe and Jordan all the time, but

734
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 2: they love basketball. They would still play basketball even if

735
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 2: they weren't Kobe and Jordan because they love it so much.

736
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 2: They just happen to be the best to ever do it.

737
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 2: But anyone who reaches that elite level, when you look

738
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 2: at people who are successful versus the ones who are

739
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 2: like elite all time, I always say the secret ingredients

740
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,800
Speaker 2: because they were passionate about it. They've really had a

741
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 2: true love for it. They weren't in it for the

742
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 2: external sort of accolades or what have you. And we

743
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 2: gotta get I know, we were almost at the end

744
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 2: of the hour. But first of all, when I ask, like, WI,

745
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 2: will you come back another time? Because like I feel

746
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 2: like we should have like a segment called like Henry's

747
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 2: Corner and we can just like pick your brain and

748
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 2: like make that a mainstay of the podcast. I think

749
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 2: I know we would love it. I know our listeners

750
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 2: would love it, and so I'm just throwing that out there.

751
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,359
Speaker 2: But I want to ask you and this could it

752
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,800
Speaker 2: pertained a Taylor Vanessa and Tea as well, because I

753
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 2: had never had this really firsthand other than the handful

754
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:12,720
Speaker 2: of movies I've done. But when you end up production,

755
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 2: it's like it's bittersweet you did it. But then you know,

756
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 2: let alone like a long running show like Rebels, and

757
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,240
Speaker 2: it's I call it sounds my cob, but it's almost

758
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 2: like it's a type of grief, like you're grieving the

759
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 2: end of a show. So I'm wondering for you and

760
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 2: Taylor Vanessa, Tea please chime in as well, like what

761
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 2: was your adjustment post Rebels?

762
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 1: Like how do you take care of yourself?

763
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 2: You know, like and especially with as actors, you're putting

764
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 2: everything into the performance. Henry has a writer, You're putting

765
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 2: everything into the words on the page. So how do

766
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 2: you make sure that you're okay when a lot of

767
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 2: times you're writing about characters or being characters that are

768
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,320
Speaker 2: not okay? And I think as the holidays approach, I

769
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:51,919
Speaker 2: think that would be a nice note to go on

770
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 2: on in terms of self care and all that good stuff.

771
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: Starting all right, good talk. Yeah, Actually it's always bittersweet.

772
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: And I've worked on shows were oh my gosh, like

773
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 1: I only have to do to one more episode or whatever,

774
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: but this one one of those is where I think

775
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 1: we all felt like, oh, we're going to probably do

776
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: more stuff together and we know it'll be awesome because

777
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: everybody feels it. So but I think we've all made

778
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:29,720
Speaker 1: an effort to stay in touch. And you know, whenever

779
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: I am working on a new show or whatever, the

780
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: people that are on this are always like in my

781
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: cast list, you know, on every project. So and by

782
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 1: the way, I needed to ask you about that, like

783
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 1: do I call you directly or do I go to

784
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: your agent because some some agents are like a little

785
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 1: like this guy's kind of slumming. I don't know about

786
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 1: this guy. So I feel like we're family. Yeah, I

787
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: feel like we're family, and I you know, it's you know,

788
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 1: I think about like, oh, the Henry Gil with players right,

789
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 1: like you know, it's it's you guys are definitely there.

790
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 1: So that's part of it, I think. But when you

791
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: say goodbye to the show, yeah, especially when it's been

792
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 1: something that's really like enduring and it's emotional and people

793
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 1: love it, Yeah, you can kind of look back fondly

794
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 1: on it. So I can't think of, you know, any

795
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 1: you know, negatives experience. We just had a we had

796
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:29,240
Speaker 1: we had a blast.

797
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 6: Yeah. I mean, I want to say thank you for

798
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 6: writing such great dialogue, giving us such cool stories to

799
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 6: bring to life, and for creating amazing characters that we

800
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:43,240
Speaker 6: got to sort of embody.

801
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 1: It's it's a real treat. So thank you for that.

802
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 1: There's one other thing I'm gonna tell you that I

803
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:54,800
Speaker 1: would change and to season three. I had Sato last

804
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: through the the Imperial forces by using like jumping the

805
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 1: light speed he blasted through to clear the way for

806
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 1: the rebels to escape. And I kept pitching it, and

807
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: they wouldn't tell me no, and they wouldn't say yes,

808
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 1: and then finally I said, no, you can't do that.

809
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, why not. They wouldn't tell me until I

810
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: saw the Last Jedi. I'm always wondering, Okay, did I

811
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: pitch that and then did it get used or I'd

812
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 1: never got an explanation from it because I was I

813
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 1: wasn't able to read the Last Jedi script, but I

814
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 1: was like, oh, now I understand why they wouldn't let

815
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,399
Speaker 1: me do it, but or was it already in.

816
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 5: The script or it was already in the works, and

817
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 5: then you kind of came up with the same ideas,

818
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 5: we can't do that exactly exactly.

819
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so that's that's the one thing he

820
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 1: would have lived. No, no, no, he would have it

821
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:53,479
Speaker 1: basically how they call it the Holdo maneuver or whatever. Yeah, yeah,

822
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 1: I sacrifice exactly. You just would have seen Sato do

823
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 1: it a year and a half earlier than it appeared

824
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: on screen. That would have been earned.

825
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 3: Really well yes, sorry, sorry, Can I ask a follow

826
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 3: up question because Vanessa a few episodes back mentioned that

827
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 3: when she and all of the casts were hired and

828
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 3: she held up her Bible that she got, she said

829
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:25,800
Speaker 3: that there was or she remembered there being a seven

830
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 3: year plan and she wasn't sure if it was seven

831
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 3: years of rebels or seven years of Star Wars, and

832
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 3: I'm wondering, can you provide some clarification on that. Was

833
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 3: Rebels always intended to be four animated seasons within this

834
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 3: larger Disney seven year arc or was there plans for

835
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:52,760
Speaker 3: seven seasons of Rebels? Vanessa didn't really remember. It was ambiguous.

836
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 4: It was never seven. It was that ten year plan.

837
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:56,919
Speaker 1: Or ten year plan.

838
00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 9: I'm sorry, yeah, but I mean but that that included

839
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 9: many narratives beyond I didn't.

840
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 1: I didn't.

841
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 9: I was not confused that Rebels was not supposed to

842
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 9: go ten years, but it was part of a ten

843
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 9: year overall plan.

844
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 4: But anyway, I don't know if you remember differently, Henry.

845
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 1: No, I never saw that, and I never I never

846
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 1: saw that there was some compartmentalization, kind of like the

847
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 1: government where you know, games are getting made, and like

848
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: the movies that were so worried that people were going

849
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: to find out what they were doing. For the movies,

850
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 1: you couldn't. They didn't even send out a script. You

851
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 1: had to go into a room with a kindle, you know,

852
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 1: oh wow, and sign your name of when you read it,

853
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 1: and then you would read it in a room and

854
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 1: then you would hand the kindle back. So there was

855
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 1: like no way, Yeah, totally, there was, like it was

856
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 1: it was very strict just because of the leaks. They

857
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 1: had a huge problems with the leaks anyway. So but yeah,

858
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,800
Speaker 1: I never heard that. I never heard the tenure plan.

859
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 1: I do know when they kind of like Disney took over,

860
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:55,879
Speaker 1: they said we're gonna put it out a Star Wars

861
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 1: movie every year, and that was their their you know

862
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,240
Speaker 1: plan until Han Solo kind of you know, but also

863
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 1: trying to make them that fast definitely like kind of

864
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: hurt the quality too. Yeah, and on that note, no,

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Speaker 1: so many questions, but I feel like we should save

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Speaker 1: them for write them down, you know, and and you know,

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Speaker 1: and if you want to send them so that we

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Speaker 1: have like discussion areas that you guys want to talk,

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Speaker 1: I'd love to come back. Thank you again for the invitation.

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Speaker 1: You know, I love you people, you know.

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Speaker 2: So I'm telling you Henry's corner on Potter Rebellion would

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Speaker 2: be such a hit. And also we did break story

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Speaker 2: in a prequel story, so we're we'll open that writer's

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Speaker 2: room up really soon, which I like that story. On

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Speaker 2: Taylor's new podcast, Call you Guys, if you're paying attention,

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Speaker 2: it's going to be premiering on Pandora and Vimeo soon,

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Speaker 2: so just keep your eyes out for that. But Henry,

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Speaker 2: thank you so much for joining us, and thank you

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Speaker 2: for being willing to you know, come back. We can't

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Speaker 2: wait to have you back as we, you know, continue

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Speaker 2: this journey through Star Wars Rebels and look, as you've

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Speaker 2: been aware on our show, Taylor has our little outro

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Speaker 2: and he says, cute the music, but we like to

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Speaker 2: bestow that onto you today. So will you do this

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Speaker 2: the honor mister Henry Gilroy and tell JC to cue

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Speaker 2: the music and get us out of here.

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Speaker 1: JC, cue the music.

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Speaker 2: Potter Rebellion is produced in partnership with iHeart Podcasts, Producing,

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Speaker 2: hosted by Vanessa Marshall, Tia Surkar, Taylor Gray, and John

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Speaker 2: Lee Brody Executive producer and in house Star Wars guru

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Speaker 2: slash backchecker j C. Reifenberg. Our music was composed by

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Speaker 2: Mikey Flash. Our cover art was created by Neil Fraser

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Speaker 2: of Neil Fraser Designs. Special thanks to Holly Frean, Aaron

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Speaker 2: Kauffman over at iHeart, Evan Krasglorie Willie Morrisondevor Tresa Canobio

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Speaker 2: George Lucas for creating this universe we love so much,

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Speaker 2: and of course all of our amazing listeners. Follow us

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Speaker 2: on Instagram at Potter Rebellion and email ust at Potter

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Speaker 2: Rebellion Podcasts at gmail dot com