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He 0:02:36.400 --> 0:02:38.560 was one off the lead with ten holes to play, 0:02:38.720 --> 0:02:41.520 so he was in the mix. He shed some light 0:02:41.600 --> 0:02:44.440 on how Tory Pines plays different in the summer, you know, 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:48.520 much different. And then we go through my five things 0:02:48.560 --> 0:02:51.120 I'm watching, just a lot of odds of ads. We 0:02:51.240 --> 0:02:52.560 touched on a lot of things. It's been a while 0:02:52.560 --> 0:02:54.480 since I talked to Jeff, so we talked about just 0:02:54.639 --> 0:02:57.800 tons of stuff beyond the US Open. Before we go 0:02:57.840 --> 0:02:59.840 to Jeff, check out the website. We'll have a bunch 0:02:59.880 --> 0:03:02.560 of stuff up there. If you don't already, please subscribe 0:03:02.600 --> 0:03:05.160 the newsletter. 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For example, I'm already 0:03:28.760 --> 0:03:30.799 upset when I find my ball in the bunker, I'm 0:03:30.800 --> 0:03:31.520 really upset. 0:03:31.600 --> 0:03:33.560 And when I find my ball in a brid Egg 0:03:33.800 --> 0:03:37.680 Friday Egg, the dreaded Frida Egg Friday, Frida Frida Egg 0:03:37.760 --> 0:03:40.680 Bride Egg Lie, I'm about ready to run off of these. 0:04:02.920 --> 0:04:08.760 You're the Tory Fight, Stefandrew, the Ultimate Tory Fights. You 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:12.440 love it, obviously you played great Noid, But why is 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:16.560 it a great as you've said, an awesome US Open venue? 0:04:17.000 --> 0:04:20.720 Well, I never loved it in January or February when 0:04:20.760 --> 0:04:23.440 we play the Buick or what is it now, the Farmers, 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:25.919 I disliked it a lot. I mean, you play the 0:04:25.920 --> 0:04:28.640 whole West Coast and the desert courses. I love like 0:04:28.680 --> 0:04:31.160 the Hope was always a good warm up tournament. Phoenix 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:37.520 is a great tournament? Or else is there? We have? Yeah, 0:04:37.600 --> 0:04:41.039 and the California Ones. I always I love Pebble for 0:04:41.080 --> 0:04:43.320 what it is, but it's a frustrating tournament because of 0:04:43.320 --> 0:04:46.520 the greens. If you're really trying to get into form 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:48.280 for the start of the year, Riviera is brilliant because 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:48.880 it's Riviera. 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:51.559 The Tory was just such a long slog. 0:04:51.640 --> 0:04:53.520 You play Phoenix and you'd be in like eighty five 0:04:53.520 --> 0:04:55.160 degrees and to be sunny, and you'd be hitting the 0:04:55.200 --> 0:04:57.919 ball three twenty. And then you get to Tory and 0:04:57.920 --> 0:05:00.839 you're driving two forty up a first ago so short 0:05:01.200 --> 0:05:03.240 and it's so long, and you're just for hitting out 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:06.600 of this dewey wet raff all week and I just 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:09.240 I found it brutal and then so I wasn't looking 0:05:09.279 --> 0:05:10.880 forward to two thousand and eight at all. And then 0:05:10.880 --> 0:05:13.479 when we got there, it might be my favorite US 0:05:13.520 --> 0:05:15.599 Open that I ever played to be fair outside of 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:18.839 wing foot. Maybe it helped the tiger ion and helped 0:05:18.839 --> 0:05:21.800 that I kind of played well, but all of a sudden, 0:05:21.960 --> 0:05:23.240 like there was a bit of a bounce on the 0:05:23.240 --> 0:05:26.880 course and the cucuou gets in the raf, so the 0:05:26.960 --> 0:05:28.040 ball doesn't go all the way. 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:28.560 To the bottom. 0:05:28.680 --> 0:05:31.679 It sort of you could get lucky in the raff 0:05:31.839 --> 0:05:33.560 and it could kind of hover because it's such a 0:05:33.600 --> 0:05:34.640 thick grass, you know. 0:05:35.480 --> 0:05:37.040 And I don't know, I just found it like. 0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:40.000 If if you had the recovery skill, you could actually 0:05:40.040 --> 0:05:42.200 do it, whereas in January Febry. 0:05:42.200 --> 0:05:44.320 You just couldn't. So it was funny. 0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:46.520 It was the most surprising US Open over play going 0:05:46.560 --> 0:05:47.960 there and thinking, oh my god, this is going to 0:05:48.000 --> 0:05:48.919 be eight thousand yards of. 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:52.400 Just brutal to Ah, this is actually all right. 0:05:52.480 --> 0:05:55.360 Like it played a lot shorter at that time of year, 0:05:55.960 --> 0:05:58.000 and I was obviously playing really well, and then the 0:05:58.040 --> 0:05:58.559 way it finished. 0:05:58.600 --> 0:06:01.120 I played with Roco on Sunday and he was having 0:06:01.160 --> 0:06:01.640 the best day. 0:06:01.680 --> 0:06:03.840 I was kind of in it till after till about 0:06:04.040 --> 0:06:06.239 nine to play and then had two or three bogies 0:06:06.240 --> 0:06:08.560 on the back and maybe finished seventh or eighth or 0:06:08.600 --> 0:06:10.560 something I think in the end, but I was on 0:06:10.640 --> 0:06:12.719 the Rocco bandwagon in the last few holes. It was 0:06:12.720 --> 0:06:15.200 fantastic and the hold that part it was. It was 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:15.960 a great tournament. 0:06:17.160 --> 0:06:20.880 Yeah, we had the superintendent on and he talked about 0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:23.960 how the cokuya in it is going to give it 0:06:24.040 --> 0:06:28.600 a little bit more unpredictable nature the rough. Would you 0:06:28.640 --> 0:06:31.120 say that's a fair a fair way to describe it. 0:06:31.880 --> 0:06:33.799 Yeah, at least last time. And I know I feel 0:06:33.800 --> 0:06:37.800 like they've been I just read yesterday. I think they're 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:40.240 trying to accentuate they've been trying to bring out the 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:43.080 kokoo you like, actually feet to have it as a 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:45.680 feature and have less rye grass than the rough, which 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:47.440 is kind of the normal US open ruff the rye 0:06:47.480 --> 0:06:48.400 grass or the blue grass. 0:06:48.400 --> 0:06:50.320 The cocuo is really different, like it's a bit more 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:51.000 like Zoysier. 0:06:51.040 --> 0:06:54.240 It's it's awful really when you get you can get 0:06:54.279 --> 0:06:56.039 there's really bad lies in it, and it can be 0:06:56.120 --> 0:06:58.479 so thick and it's like sort of wrist hurting rough. 0:06:58.600 --> 0:07:01.400 But it doesn't always go to the bottom, I mean 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:02.800 quite sometimes it can kind of. 0:07:02.720 --> 0:07:03.760 Hover quite up the top. 0:07:03.839 --> 0:07:05.679 So you've got these lines where the ball is sitting 0:07:05.760 --> 0:07:08.880 like a couple of inches in the air, like just floating. 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:09.000 On the grass. 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:12.720 Because it's such a strong grass velcrope, so it's very 0:07:12.800 --> 0:07:15.960 random what you'll get. But it's a great grass when 0:07:16.000 --> 0:07:18.880 it's like short, like it's fantastic at Riviera, such a 0:07:18.920 --> 0:07:20.960 great grass to playoff, Like the ball just sits up 0:07:21.000 --> 0:07:22.240 and you can get a lot of spin off it. 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:26.440 But when it gets longer, it's progressively anything from a 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:28.640 really good line in the rough to like the worst 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:30.720 lie I've ever seen, So it's going to be sort 0:07:30.720 --> 0:07:31.560 of randomness. 0:07:32.080 --> 0:07:34.480 Does the ball fly a lot when it sits up, like, 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:37.960 how does it? You know, I'm thinking, I'm not. I'm 0:07:37.960 --> 0:07:41.920 a Midwesterner, so my grasses are are pretty just boring, 0:07:41.960 --> 0:07:44.800 the rye and bent, you know everywhere in blue grass. 0:07:45.240 --> 0:07:48.320 And is it more like is it like Bermuda where 0:07:48.400 --> 0:07:52.080 you get that like you get serious jumpers and then 0:07:52.280 --> 0:07:54.960 sometimes the ball just comes out dead as it can be. 0:07:55.920 --> 0:07:59.200 It's not really crazy hot like Bermuda is like Bermuda. 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:02.840 Ruff is like super flyer as you say, I wouldn't 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:05.720 think of cocoas a really sort of flyer rough, but 0:08:05.840 --> 0:08:09.320 it does sit above the level of the dirt, if 0:08:09.360 --> 0:08:11.080 you know what I mean, Like it can sit halfway 0:08:11.120 --> 0:08:13.720 down the rough because it's such a strong grass. So 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:16.040 your real issues are hitting the ball off the middle 0:08:16.040 --> 0:08:17.720 and not hitting it high on the club face. I 0:08:17.720 --> 0:08:20.280 feel like usually yet those ones that hit high like 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:24.480 the top groove and the ball just goes nowhere. That really, 0:08:24.520 --> 0:08:26.760 I think is more the problem because you try it, 0:08:26.840 --> 0:08:29.040 it's sort of it's still down in the raf, but 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:30.800 it's not all the way down, so you go down 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:32.120 to get it and you end up hitting on the 0:08:32.160 --> 0:08:34.280 top of the club and the ball goes nowhere. It's 0:08:34.280 --> 0:08:35.840 probably more the challenge. 0:08:35.679 --> 0:08:39.000 Really like if you tee and higher and up too high. 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:41.760 Yeah, exactly, it's exactly like teening an iron up too 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:46.640 high and you're almost roofing it. Yeah, it's it's a 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:48.640 brutal grass, but it's I don't know, it's interesting. 0:08:48.640 --> 0:08:51.559 It's an a quiet taste. I mean South Africa, that's 0:08:51.600 --> 0:08:52.240 all they play on. 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:55.440 And in Sydney and Australia there's actually a lot of 0:08:55.640 --> 0:08:58.760 cocuar grass and then obviously Riviera and some California stuff, 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:01.160 so it's quite unique. I think might be an African grass, 0:09:01.160 --> 0:09:05.520 I'm not sure. But it's very hearty and it's very tough, 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:08.920 but it's it's uh tricky winning as long. 0:09:10.040 --> 0:09:13.480 Uh speaking of eight, right, you're you're one back. You're 0:09:13.480 --> 0:09:16.800 really in it at like on the eighth hole, ninth 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:21.559 hole on Sunday, you're one back of Westy who it's 0:09:21.600 --> 0:09:24.600 always the lost story of this of this championship. He's 0:09:24.600 --> 0:09:27.720 the one that kind of gave it all away that 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:32.400 led to the epic Tiger Rocko story. But you know, 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:36.840 what's the difference having most people that been there, Like 0:09:37.120 --> 0:09:39.680 you're in like a really similar position to oh six, 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:43.480 And what's the difference between the back nine and eight 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:47.800 versus six, Like, is it how narrow is that line 0:09:47.840 --> 0:09:51.440 between you winning and you finishing seventh, like when you're 0:09:51.520 --> 0:09:53.840 in the mix on a back nine like that in 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:54.320 a major? 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:57.560 Pretty narrow. I mean I felt really good about it. 0:09:57.559 --> 0:10:01.320 I felt probably more comfortable there because it's two I'd 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:04.160 won two years ago. I was probably playing better. I 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:07.400 think I felt better about my game, and I don't 0:10:07.400 --> 0:10:08.840 know it just it was one of those ones where 0:10:08.840 --> 0:10:10.520 I don't feel like I did much wrong. I hit 0:10:10.559 --> 0:10:13.719 it the bunker on nine off the tee. The par 0:10:13.920 --> 0:10:18.400 five and the bunkers that week were the one complaint 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:20.400 point I think from the boys, and that it was 0:10:20.440 --> 0:10:21.480 an instant plug. 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:25.479 Anything that went that means Friday towel compowder. 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:28.840 Yeah, thout Friday eggs. Everywhere they were like towel compounder, 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:31.920 you know, moondust. The borders went straight down in it, 0:10:32.320 --> 0:10:35.760 and I plugged one on nine in the Fairway bunker 0:10:35.920 --> 0:10:38.439 like it bounced and plugged. It was like a five 0:10:39.240 --> 0:10:41.080 five hundred and eighty oh part five or something. So 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:42.560 it was like I hit it out twenty and now 0:10:42.600 --> 0:10:44.840 I've got my third shot. As the layup and said 0:10:44.880 --> 0:10:47.360 my fourth, So I make bogie there, and I drive 0:10:47.400 --> 0:10:49.679 at the Bunker on ten and get an awful lie 0:10:50.040 --> 0:10:51.959 and make bogie bogey and I went from one back 0:10:52.000 --> 0:10:53.360 to three back and then I kind of have it 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:54.000 there the rest. 0:10:53.840 --> 0:10:54.200 Of the time. 0:10:54.240 --> 0:10:56.360 So I was like a couple of loose t shots. 0:10:56.360 --> 0:10:58.240 But if they'd just gone on normal lives, I would 0:10:58.240 --> 0:11:01.160 have been fine, you know. So it's a fine line. 0:11:01.400 --> 0:11:04.120 It is a very fine line. I mean that week 0:11:04.160 --> 0:11:07.520 had a feeling of inevitability about it from Saturday night 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:10.400 and Tiger chips in on seventeen and then makes a 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:13.400 bomb on eighteen, right, I think to kind of go 0:11:13.480 --> 0:11:15.800 from third last group to last group, like he used 0:11:15.880 --> 0:11:17.480 just a freak show at getting in the last group 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:20.600 on Sunday, and it's like, wow, this is this has 0:11:20.640 --> 0:11:23.320 got the Tiger feel about it. And West he played great, 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:25.880 I think my memory did He's try to drive off 0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:28.319 the deck on thirteen and I think he went left 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:29.920 and he kind of made six or something from a 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:30.600 really good drive. 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:34.440 Yeah, a couple of point a couple of bad putts too, 0:11:34.960 --> 0:11:36.160 you know, a couple. 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:39.679 Of I'd never begrudge anyone a bad part, like deep 0:11:40.360 --> 0:11:44.200 Deep on Sunday, Saturday Sunday the greens in California, like 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:47.200 on the coast. Just the nature of paragraphs. It's just 0:11:47.280 --> 0:11:49.160 going to be ropy. And when we see you've seen 0:11:49.200 --> 0:11:51.360 Tiger's worm's eye view a lot of times if it 0:11:51.559 --> 0:11:55.360 doesn't stay on the ground very much. Yeah, putting stuff 0:11:55.360 --> 0:11:57.679 on Sundays. Yeah, but it's such a fine line between 0:11:57.960 --> 0:11:59.600 winning and top it's. 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:03.120 Really like a matter of good breaks or good bounces, 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:06.120 Like you get a good bounce here or there, especially 0:12:06.160 --> 0:12:08.160 with the way the bunkers are oriented, Like I mean, 0:12:08.520 --> 0:12:11.440 I think this is like something that when you play 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:14.760 a course that's really well bunkered and the bunkers are 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:19.000 all like right in your driving zone. It's just over 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:21.440 seventy two old. You're going to hit it into a 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:22.319 couple of them. 0:12:22.360 --> 0:12:24.880 You are, and look normally in the us Open, and 0:12:24.960 --> 0:12:27.040 I know this is one of Mike Davis's things, and 0:12:27.080 --> 0:12:29.679 I'm sure it's just a general USGA thing. They don't 0:12:29.679 --> 0:12:32.560 want people to be looked after when they're in the bunker. 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:34.640 They want the bunker to be as bad as the 0:12:34.760 --> 0:12:37.760 rough or worse. It's just, yeah, Tori's got bunkers on 0:12:37.800 --> 0:12:39.560 both sides of every hole. It feels like you're driving 0:12:39.600 --> 0:12:45.320 distance very regularly, that farsier sort of style, and it's just, yeah, 0:12:45.360 --> 0:12:47.199 you're going to miss some, you just are. They're only 0:12:47.240 --> 0:12:49.400 twenty yards wide. You're going to miss some. So there's 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:51.280 a bit of fortune in it. I mean, generally, I 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:53.080 would have said, at the end of the week, the 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:55.400 best player, the guy who's playing the best wins. But 0:12:55.440 --> 0:12:57.880 there's out of the top bunch of guys, there's a 0:12:57.880 --> 0:12:59.760 lot of guys who had great wiks just been like 0:12:59.800 --> 0:13:03.200 so unride, just unrailed by two or three bad lies. 0:13:03.280 --> 0:13:04.679 You know, you can hit three balls in the rough 0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:06.560 and get three different results, right, one you can hit 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:08.320 a five on out of one you can hit a 0:13:08.400 --> 0:13:09.600 nine on out of and the other one you can 0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:12.400 only move at twenty meters, you know, Like, and that's 0:13:12.440 --> 0:13:14.520 sort of the randomness of what us opens are like. 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:16.040 But you know that, and that's what does your head 0:13:16.080 --> 0:13:16.559 in when you. 0:13:16.520 --> 0:13:19.440 Play them, like every you start Thursday morning, and you 0:13:19.559 --> 0:13:22.240 just know you're just going to get unlucky a lot, 0:13:22.480 --> 0:13:24.000 you know, But you know the whole field's gonna get 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:24.520 unlucky a lot. 0:13:24.520 --> 0:13:26.840 And I'll tell you handily out the sort of misfortune 0:13:26.840 --> 0:13:27.280 I get. 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:31.160 Yeah, that's uh so. I don't know if you saw this, 0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:34.240 if anybody sent you this. Justin Ray, the great statistician, 0:13:34.440 --> 0:13:38.240 put together put together the stat entering the two thousand 0:13:38.280 --> 0:13:41.080 and eight US Open at Tory. They're they're here were 0:13:41.080 --> 0:13:43.480 the best scores of par and majors by players with 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:47.480 fifty plus rounds played since nineteen ninety seven. So there 0:13:47.480 --> 0:13:49.920 are one hundred and eleven players in this group. Tiger 0:13:50.160 --> 0:13:55.240 is negative minus one, twenty five, Ernie's plus seventy three, 0:13:55.440 --> 0:13:59.160 Phils plus seventy four, and there you are plus seventy seven. 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:02.559 Next club players nic O hern at plus one or two. 0:14:02.840 --> 0:14:04.079 Oh well, pretty good group. 0:14:04.559 --> 0:14:08.600 Yeah, it's funny that Tory Open. I shot like one 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:11.319 or two under I think in the first round on Thursday, 0:14:12.280 --> 0:14:14.760 and Doug Ferguson was very excited running up to me. 0:14:14.840 --> 0:14:16.560 He says, did you know that's the first time you've 0:14:16.600 --> 0:14:19.080 ever broken par in a round in a US Open. 0:14:19.600 --> 0:14:22.200 You're the first, you're the first US Open champion whoever 0:14:22.240 --> 0:14:24.520 won He was open never having a round under par 0:14:24.640 --> 0:14:25.360 in the US Open. 0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:30.520 But I didn't even know that. And then he was 0:14:30.600 --> 0:14:32.040 very excited on that. 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:36.160 That's a wild stats crazy stat. Yeah, Trevino was like 0:14:36.200 --> 0:14:38.760 the first guy to win one with four rounds under 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:42.400 par and when he wanted a both or O kill. 0:14:42.760 --> 0:14:45.360 Really wow, Yeah, I'm not surprised. I mean, it's just 0:14:45.440 --> 0:14:46.880 impossible to shoot under par. 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:47.120 There. 0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:49.920 It was a funny stat though. Yeah, yeah, I played them. 0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:51.040 I used to love the US. 0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:54.200 I just loved the toughness of it. It's just such 0:14:54.240 --> 0:14:57.160 a I don't know, it's just some people. Yeah, I 0:14:57.240 --> 0:14:59.240 kind of got off on the how do I make 0:14:59.280 --> 0:15:01.280 par on this whole Just find a way, you know, 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:03.680 Like it's just something about it. And if you get 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:05.320 in that right hit space, that's when you do well 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:07.480 in US opens. There was plenty of US opens later 0:15:07.520 --> 0:15:09.920 on that I wasn't in that hit space, and. 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:11.720 It wasn't quite as much fun. 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:16.080 But there's something about that beating the impossible, you know, 0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:17.960 that's really satisfying. 0:15:18.200 --> 0:15:22.400 You know. It's interesting how there are just certain players 0:15:22.480 --> 0:15:26.040 that are like major players, right, you know, like you 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:28.560 they're almost it's almost inevitable for them to be on 0:15:28.600 --> 0:15:30.640 the leaderboard, whether they win a ton of them or not, 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:34.520 like like Xanderschoffley appears to be like this this era 0:15:34.640 --> 0:15:38.480 is like just major player, Like every major just almost 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:41.200 in the bank top ten, and it started when he 0:15:41.240 --> 0:15:44.160 was a local qualifier at Aarren Hills. But like, is 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:45.880 it do you think it's just when when it just 0:15:45.960 --> 0:15:47.920 gets ramped up. It's the guys that are just a 0:15:47.960 --> 0:15:50.800 little have a little bit of you know, a mental 0:15:50.920 --> 0:15:53.360 edge or you know, what is it that makes the 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:56.000 just a constant major presence. 0:15:57.240 --> 0:15:59.040 I mean, I think Brooks actually hit on it the 0:15:59.080 --> 0:16:02.480 other day a little bit that it just captures. I 0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:05.360 think you play your best when you're paying the most 0:16:05.360 --> 0:16:08.280 attention and you're the most into it, you know, and 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:10.440 most guys who have you get on tour and you 0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:13.520 become a good player, you've played so much golf even 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:16.120 by the time you're twenty five, it's just out and 0:16:16.160 --> 0:16:18.400 more golf than anyone else in the world. Right, It's outrageous, 0:16:18.800 --> 0:16:21.240 And it just takes a bit more, I think to 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:23.920 get you fully into it. And I think the guys 0:16:23.960 --> 0:16:27.600 who do best in majors one are great and they're 0:16:27.960 --> 0:16:30.800 they're just physically great players and mentally great players. But two, 0:16:30.880 --> 0:16:33.040 it's they're all in in a major where they might 0:16:33.080 --> 0:16:37.960 not be all in in Greensboro or like Riviera or something. 0:16:38.040 --> 0:16:40.360 They're like they're all in, you know. And I think 0:16:40.880 --> 0:16:42.520 I was a bit like that that I thought I 0:16:42.600 --> 0:16:45.960 was all in on the Thursday of the Phoenix Open, 0:16:46.040 --> 0:16:47.800 you know what I mean. But it's different, you know 0:16:48.040 --> 0:16:49.680 than the first that the Masters are the first that 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:52.880 you was open. And I just think some people, I think, 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:57.240 really thrive and enjoy the like that every hole feels 0:16:57.240 --> 0:16:58.800 like the last hole kind of in a major, you know, 0:16:58.880 --> 0:16:59.960 that real stress. 0:17:00.000 --> 0:17:02.200 I think some guys like that on some guys don't. 0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:03.720 And I think I don't think there's a right or 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:06.640 wrong or anything you can do about that. I think 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:09.560 some guys a lot that some guys aren't. And Brooks 0:17:09.600 --> 0:17:12.400 is clearly he's the most like that we've ever seen, 0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:12.760 isn't he? 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:15.640 I think? And Louis too. Louie's outrageous. 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:19.560 I mean, Louis, He's obviously an unbelievable player, and he's 0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:22.120 top fifty in the world for the last fifteen years, 0:17:22.160 --> 0:17:25.160 but he is absolutely at his best in the mages. 0:17:25.320 --> 0:17:26.600 He's almost always there. 0:17:27.359 --> 0:17:29.880 Yeah for him too, I think it's just like he's 0:17:29.960 --> 0:17:34.000 so uber talented when it comes to striking the ball 0:17:34.119 --> 0:17:37.439 that it becomes so clear when the conditions get tougher 0:17:37.440 --> 0:17:41.800 and tougher, how much, how extraordinarily talented he is from 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:45.600 Tea Green, Like you know Atqua, he was like, I 0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:51.359 mean Saturday or Sunday, it's Saturday. It was very ugly 0:17:52.080 --> 0:17:54.639 watching him. He was hitting like little like heel cuts 0:17:54.640 --> 0:17:57.760 out there, but you know he's still getting the ball around. 0:17:57.760 --> 0:18:00.560 It's still like in the mix. For say, like it 0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:03.320 was not like your your typical Louis Eustace and golf 0:18:03.359 --> 0:18:06.240 where it's just like, you know, dead center of the 0:18:06.280 --> 0:18:10.800 face every every shot. I think any everybody should be 0:18:10.840 --> 0:18:13.600 able to relate to this. And you know, I don't 0:18:13.600 --> 0:18:15.840 think it's it's ready for Brooks to get a heat 0:18:15.880 --> 0:18:18.680 from people about this because just think of like if 0:18:18.760 --> 0:18:22.760 as a golf end, like golf fans watching Greensboro versus 0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:27.080 golf fans watching a major, Like there's so much, so much, Yeah, 0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:30.640 you're so much more locked in like Greaceborough. You might 0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:33.000 it might be Saturday afternoon and you might you know, 0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:35.080 be laying on the couch and you doze off for 0:18:35.080 --> 0:18:35.840 forty minutes. 0:18:37.080 --> 0:18:40.480 And also it's like you've got thirty as a pro 0:18:40.520 --> 0:18:42.600 as a golfer, you've got thirty tournaments a year, and 0:18:42.640 --> 0:18:44.760 say you're four or five years into your career. 0:18:44.840 --> 0:18:48.680 You've had thirty tournaments a year for five years. There 0:18:48.680 --> 0:18:51.160 are gonna be some that you're into more than others. 0:18:51.160 --> 0:18:53.200 It's just the nature of it. It's like people who 0:18:53.200 --> 0:18:55.240