1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: noon to three Eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 8 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: Here we go, Cowboys playing a night against the Detroit Lions. 9 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: Greg Cosell one hour from now to break it all down. 10 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: What's wrong with Detroit? One is right with Dallas. Maybe 11 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: in La next week, in Chicago today, It's the Herd. 12 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 1: Wherever you may be, however you may be listening. Thanks 13 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 1: for making us part of your day. I and Jmac 14 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 1: both like Dallas tonight. I think Dallas wins by a 15 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: touchdown or more tonight. I think a lot of the 16 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,319 Speaker 1: NFL is trends and which way you're headed. I think 17 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: Dallas is in the right direction, playing with a ton 18 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: of confidence now healthier than they've been all season. So 19 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 1: you and I agree on that, and let's just start 20 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: with them. So the Cowboys over under win total to 21 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: start the year was seven and a half. I said, 22 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: bet the under Detroit's was ten and a half. Ten 23 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: and a half, I said bet the under, and here 24 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 1: we are week fourteen. They're pretty much the same. But 25 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: I think I'd rather be Dallas. I do. I like 26 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: where they're trending. And everybody's telling me it's injuries, or 27 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: it's the Frank Ragnow retirement, or it's Jared Goff. You 28 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: want to know why Detroit's not as good? They lost 29 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: Ben Johnson, the offensive coordinator. Now he's the coach of 30 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: the Bears, and the Bears are looking down at the Lions. 31 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: That's it. It's almost impossible. It's not hard. It's really 32 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: impossible to replace brilliance. I remember Nike two thousand and four, 33 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: Phil Knight step down as CEO. Nike, one of one, 34 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: a powerhouse, immediately starts losing market share to Adidas. Here 35 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: comes Phil, he comes back. We all know the story 36 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: of Steve Jobs left Apple. Apple was a powerhouse. They 37 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: begged to have him back ten years later. It's hard 38 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: to replace excellent people. I think Ben Johnson's different. I mean, 39 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 1: what a shock. Suddenly the Bears are as good as 40 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: any team in the league running the football. They weren't 41 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: last year, and suddenly now The Lions are horrible on 42 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: third down? How with that offensive line? How would Jamir 43 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: Gibbs with a veteran quarterback? How they're good at tight end, 44 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: wide receiver? How because I lost Ben Johnson. That's it. 45 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: I remember when Washington you remember this, had Sean McVay, 46 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan, and Matt Lafleur in the building with Washington, 47 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: they were making the playoffs. Those guys left. I mean, 48 00:02:55,320 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 1: it wasn't until last year, for one year, that the 49 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 1: regression stop. Now they're bad again. You just can't replace 50 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 1: McVeigh and Shanahan on his staff, arguably the two best 51 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: coaches in the league after Andy Reid and I I'll 52 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: die on this hill. The greater the talent you lose, 53 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: the wider the search has to be. You lose Jim 54 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: Harbaugh Michigan. You can't go in house. You lose Ben Johnson. 55 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: You can't go in house. The bigger the shoes I 56 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: have to fill, the more feet I need to see. 57 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: And when I watched the Lions, it's not Frank rag Now, 58 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: it's not omar On Saint Brown is banged up. It's 59 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: not Jared Goff doesn't have mobility. He didn't have it 60 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: the previous three years. They're just not quite as clever 61 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: and not quite as unique, even among really good people. 62 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: Jerry Jones said, Dak is irreplaceable, Mike is great, but replaceable, 63 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: and Mike is were to go, but he leaves. Dallas 64 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: is now second in the NFL in pressures. It's like, 65 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: we're actually better without my Ka because we got some 66 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: draft picks and made some deals. But I mean, Miami 67 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: still looking to find the next Marino. How many quarterbacks 68 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 1: they had forty? I mean literally, Denver to replace Elway 69 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 1: had to go get an old Peyton Manning. So it's 70 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: just it's the Lions lost an all time offensive coordinator, 71 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: an all time guy, and I love Dallas tonight nothing 72 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: quite feels the same when I watch them. The players 73 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: are great. It's not injuries. They've been injury plague previous years. 74 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: It's not the GM he's great. They just lost an 75 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: all timer who's now with the Bears. So I saw 76 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: a story this morning and it said the Broncos are 77 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: the second NFL team in history to win four straight 78 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: games by three points or less. People are basically saying 79 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 1: what Denver is doing is not sustainable. You can't keep 80 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 1: winning in the fourth quarter like Denver's and I would say, no, 81 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: that's absolutely sustainable. What's not sustainable is when the Patriots 82 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: went ten years without winning a Super Bowl, and those 83 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: Randy Moss years when you're scoring fifty and winning by 84 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 1: three touchdowns, they didn't win a super Bowl that year. 85 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: Every other Super Bowl Belichick and Brady were in in 86 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: New England all but one were one possession games. Further record, 87 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: Tom Brady is the greatest quarterback ever in one possession 88 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: games sixty eight percent of games, sixty eight percent in 89 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: one score game, by the way, highest winning percentage when 90 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: trailing in the fourth quarter of the last two seasons, 91 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: Andy Reid and Sean Payton. So don't tell me it's 92 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: Mahomes because none of you like Bo Nicks. It's the coach. 93 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: Football has always been a game of inches. I go 94 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 1: back to the New England dynasty. Winning close is totally sustainable. 95 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: The New England dynasty. The two things that I would 96 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,799 Speaker 1: jump out beyond Belichick and Brady art they never fumbled. 97 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: Honest to God, I was in New England at the time. 98 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: They never fumbled, and they were always way above average 99 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 1: on special teams. They didn't lead the league in sacks 100 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: very often. They didn't lead the league in touchdowns very often. 101 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 1: When I look at Denver, it's absolutely coaching and details. 102 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: For instance, fewest sacks allowed, that's coaching. How do I 103 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: know that's coaching because Caleb Williams last year was the 104 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: most sacked quarterback. This year, he's one of the least sacks. 105 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 1: They changed coaches, right, So like it is coaching and demanding, 106 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: not pandering. Bo Nicks not a big, strong guy breaking 107 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: tackles from defensive ends. He didn't get sacked. His dad 108 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: was a coach. He takes to coaching. Sean Payton. They're 109 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:55,239 Speaker 1: also great on third down defense. Why that's situational coaching. 110 00:06:55,760 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: Red zone defense, situational coaching. And so when I look 111 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: at New England's dynasty, it was all about details. I 112 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: don't know how many times they led the NFL in 113 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: total offense. I would wager it wasn't as many as 114 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: you think. I don't know how many times that led 115 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: the league in touchdowns. By the Randy marsh years, they 116 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: didn't win Super Bowls. So I've always thought, like Andy Reid, 117 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: Sean Payton. In fact, I looked this morning at the 118 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: top five last two years, the top five winning percentages, 119 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: winning its coaches in one score games. It's all offensive coaches. 120 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: No Mike Tomblin up there. It's all offensive coaches. So 121 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: to me, this idea that what Denver's doing is not sustainable. 122 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: I love NBA teams and baseball teams and Pro football 123 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: teams that win close. I think it builds character, it 124 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: builds unity. Winn by blowouts, that's not sustainable. If you're 125 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: doing that in the NFL, you're probably doing it because 126 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: you have a really good rookie quarterback on a rookie deal, 127 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: and then when you have to eventually pay him and 128 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: have to get rid of stars. You're not winning by that. 129 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: That's not sustainable. You don't see NFL teams going four 130 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: years blowing people out. You'll rarely get a year like that. 131 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: But winning close, Andy Reid, Sean Payton, Tom Brady totally 132 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: sustainable to me. Being good on third down offensively, not 133 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: getting sacked a lot, that's coaching. That's sustainable. Here's Sean 134 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: Payton on the way Denver's winning. 135 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 3: I hate losing more than anything like in the world, 136 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 3: and so I think fear of failure is a very 137 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 3: significant motivating factor from a detail standpoint, and you know, 138 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 3: there's nothing that's too small, that's not significant, that has 139 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 3: to exist outside the lines as well. 140 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think highly organized people don't need 141 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: wide margins, right, highly organized people don't need wide margins margins. 142 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 1: I can read about a pro athlete that can't retire 143 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: in one hundred million dollars, and I'm like, well, I 144 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: know school teachers that are retired on one and live 145 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 1: very comfortable, great lives. If you need one hundred million 146 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: dollars to retire comfortably, you're not great in the details. 147 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: You're not very efficient. There's a quality of life at 148 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: one or two million dollars in retirement. Jmak, we both 149 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: like the Dallas Cowboys to night, Greg Cosell. In one hour, I. 150 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 4: Was just looking at your Broncos, Colin. So, not only 151 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 4: do they struggle on the road this season, winning a 152 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 4: bunch of close games, but they faced four backup quarterbacks 153 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 4: this season, and guess who they got this week the Raiders, 154 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 4: and they are huge favorites in a dangerous game. 155 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: But you know the last two years who's led the 156 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: NFL in point differential? Lions Ravens. How they do in 157 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: the playoffs, they're not ready for it. Denver and Chicago 158 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: are like, yeah, we've been in close games. Denver's trailed 159 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: every game this year at one point, so the Lion, 160 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: the Ravens the last two years before this year, but 161 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: last year and the year before we saw this all 162 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:18,599 Speaker 1: the time. NFC teams that played Baltimore just got destroyed. 163 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: It does you no value in the playoffs winning close. 164 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: To me, it builds a confidence in close games. I mean, 165 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 1: if you go back to Michael Jordan's great highlights, the 166 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: first one you think about that Cleveland series, it's a 167 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: game winning shot because they trailed, or the Utah shot, 168 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: game winning shot because they trailed. Michael Jordan's highlights with 169 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: the against the Knicks. You know, even Michael Jordan and 170 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,719 Speaker 1: the greatest team ever and the greatest player ever. Do 171 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: you know how many like grueling six game series they 172 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: were in, how many times they actually lost at home? 173 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: You gotta win close, and I think it builds stuff 174 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 1: beyond just a w. 175 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 4: The only thing is they're beating bad teams in close games. 176 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 4: Those Michael Jordan are epic playoff games. This is like 177 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 4: Davis Mills, Okay, this is the Raiders ten to seven 178 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 4: at home. I will just cast you after this Raiders 179 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 4: game this week, Packers, Jags, Chiefs, Chargers, that will be 180 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 4: the truth serum. For the Broncos, they'll probably go one 181 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 4: in three or two and two down the street. 182 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,959 Speaker 1: What are you laughing at? Come on, here's all playoff teams. 183 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 1: I have been hearing this now for weeks about the 184 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: Chicago Bears. Oh, this game's true serum. Yeah, they just 185 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 1: went to Philly. That was a great win and knocked 186 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: the barn door over. You know, like guys, they keep winning, 187 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 1: like Denver, Well this one, this next one. I saw 188 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: them play Kansas City and I was told, oh, this 189 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,719 Speaker 1: game against the Chiefs, they'll be true serum. They won 190 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: that one. 191 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 4: Now by me, I was on the Broncos that one. 192 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 4: But by the way, do you have Broncos Super Bowl futures? 193 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 4: Are you gonna put Towns a couple of don't? I 194 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 4: don't divulge all my super Bowl future. Put your money 195 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 4: where your mouth this big guy. I picked Denver to 196 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 4: win the division. I think their roster is great. 197 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 5: Yeah. 198 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:00,559 Speaker 1: I like bo Nicks and Sean Payton's history is bumpy. 199 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: September better every month. 200 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 201 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 2: in noon eastern nine am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 202 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 2: FS one and the iHeartRadio app. 203 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,839 Speaker 1: Hey, it's Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington from The Odd 204 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: Couple on Fox Sports Radio. 205 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 6: And in addition to hearing us live weeknights from seven 206 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 6: to ten pm Eastern on Fox Sports Radio, we are 207 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 6: excited to announce brand new YouTube channel for the show. 208 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: That's right, you can now watch The Odd Couple live 209 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: on YouTube every day. 210 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 6: All you gotta do search Odd Couple FSR on YouTube. 211 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 6: Again YouTube, Just search Odd Couple FSR. 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And so I'm reading a story 222 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: this morning that old Miss Players, an old Miss Athletic 223 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: Director dispute Lane Kiffen's version of what was said as 224 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: he left folks different angles. Where are you sitting? I 225 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: mean movie critics Gene Siskel, one of the great movie 226 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 1: critics of all time, didn't like Silence of the Lambs. Sorry, 227 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: you know they rarely agreed on movies. I mean he 228 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: and Ebert. So the bottom line is there's three sides 229 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: to every story. Your side, my side, and the truth. 230 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: As they say, so Old Miss ad Old missus players. 231 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:54,719 Speaker 1: They're bitter, they're angry, they got dumped. They're emotional, they're scorned. 232 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:59,559 Speaker 1: They're gonna hear things one way. Lane Kiffen leaving Old 233 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: Miss to LSU is hyped, optimistic, energized, can't wait. Maybe 234 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: maybe a little guilt, but he's hungry and aggressive and things. 235 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: He needed his job the right way at Old Miss. 236 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: And there's a reason we need divorce attorneys, somebody, somebody 237 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: to come in without emotion and make a decision. Old 238 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: Miss got dumped and they're angry, and you could argue 239 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: they have a right to be angry, But I don't 240 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: suddenly believe everything Old Miss players and the athletic director 241 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: and the boosters and the donors are saying all of us, 242 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: when dumped, are overly emotional, or at least emotional. So 243 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: I've argued from the beginning, you knew what you were 244 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: getting when you hired him and Old Miss. Maybe not 245 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: for all programs, but for Old Miss, it was better 246 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: to have had Lane Kiffin and lost him than to 247 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: have not had Lane Kiffen at all and Old Miss. 248 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: The college football playoffs starts in two weeks. Everybody's been 249 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: against you. Why because you go to the airport, flip 250 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: people off and scream ugly things, and you're not concentrating 251 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: on your players and your game plan and your team. 252 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: I understand being angry, but I'm less inclined to listen 253 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: to people who are highly emotional. I'm really if you're 254 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: highly emotional as a coach, a little league dad, a 255 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: soccer or pageant mom, I'm not really interested in your opinion. Okay, 256 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: So this idea that Lane Lane is just you know, 257 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: he's just embellishing it. He's hungry, he's excited. It's signing day. 258 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: It's a new job. I've had four new jobs in 259 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: my life. You can't see straight. You're so happy, got 260 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: a new challenge. You're putting together a staff at signing day, 261 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: you can't wait. I couldn't even get my hair right. 262 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: The bottom line is the faster Ole Miss gets over it, 263 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: the better chance I have to win in the college 264 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: football playoff. Now, Joel Klatt and I but just here's 265 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: Joel Klatt's opinion on Lane leaving the way Lane left. 266 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 7: I don't begrudge this man his movement, and he's going 267 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 7: to go, and he thought LSU was going to be 268 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 7: a better opportunity for he and his family, you know, 269 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 7: more power to him, But that doesn't mean that there 270 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 7: are not consequences to those decisions. And he did leave 271 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 7: a team high and dry, and he left those players 272 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 7: high and dry. That's going to hurt his credibility moving forward. 273 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 7: And he also went to a place that, let's face it, 274 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 7: is not as sound foundationally. They might have more resources, 275 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 7: but it's certainly a lot more crazy at LSU. It's like, listen, 276 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 7: you know you can go with a six to prom 277 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 7: and that six is going to be committed to you. 278 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 7: You take the nine. She might be crazy. 279 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: I think LSU and Lane Kiffin both are a little crazy. 280 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: It's not a thirty year marriage. It's going to be 281 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: like a three or four year relationship, and I can't 282 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: wait to watch Hollywood. Divorces are far more interesting than 283 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 1: stable thirty year marriages. Not saying they're better for society, 284 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:12,479 Speaker 1: you're better for the kids. Yeah, Lane's a little crazy. 285 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 1: LSU's a little crazy. Okay, there is a reason eyewitness 286 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: testimony is the least reliable evidence. People are highly emotional. 287 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: Take a deep breath, ale, miss, concentrate on you keep 288 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 1: the thing the thing. Bitterness doesn't win playoff games. J 289 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: Mack with the news. 290 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 2: No, no, turn on the news. This is the herdline news. 291 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: All right, let's bust right into it. 292 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 4: She'd dore Sanders versus cam Ward on Sunday. 293 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 1: Feel the excitement, Colin. 294 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 4: Two big names from the twenty twenty five NFL draft, 295 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,959 Speaker 4: Ward win one shed her kind of tumble down draft boards. 296 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:57,199 Speaker 4: Shuder obviously said there's no added motivation here, saying he 297 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 4: just wants to win the game and play well. Your thoughts, 298 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 4: Colin on these hugely important matchup, Well. 299 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 1: I think cam Ward's a much greater talent. I think 300 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 1: Shadu or Sanders is a more fascinating story. I think 301 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: Cleveland at Home is gonna win this football game. I 302 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: have strongly considered it for the Blazing five inclusion. I 303 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:19,439 Speaker 1: got to get back in my winning ways. 304 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 4: I think you bet you're backing Shader Sanders laying four. 305 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: And a half. My take is anything between four and 306 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:31,120 Speaker 1: five points. I generally like the favorites because Vegas doesn't 307 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 1: want to make anybody minus four minus five. They want 308 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 1: to make you minus three. And I think it tells 309 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 1: you that Cleveland's a much better football team. There are 310 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:41,199 Speaker 1: things Cleveland does every single week that they're exceptional. In 311 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 1: Tennessee doesn't do anything consistently at an exceptional level. And 312 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: I get the home team with the significantly better defense. 313 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: I like Cleveland. Yeah if you don't. 314 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,360 Speaker 4: If you play fantasy, you have to start the Browns 315 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 4: defense this week. They probably could score twenty points on 316 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 4: their own. I just can't, you know, fundamentally, put my 317 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 4: after tax dollar on the Browns with Shader Sanders needed 318 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,120 Speaker 4: to cover a spread. I mean, come on, like that, 319 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 4: that's a bridge too far from I will say Cleveland 320 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 4: now is interesting to watch. I find myself tuning into 321 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 4: Cleveland game. 322 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 1: You gotta watch Miles Garrett. Is he gonna set the record. 323 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 4: He may do it this week. Honestly, he may break 324 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 4: the sack record this week. He might have another five bagger. 325 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,679 Speaker 4: All right, let's move on to Josh Allen, an actually 326 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 4: good quarterback. Sorry, rookies, how about this wacky stat that 327 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 4: our guys found. 328 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 1: This is crazy. 329 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 4: So he scored a rushing touchdown Sunday. He's seventy sixth. 330 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:33,679 Speaker 4: It's now, he's now the number one rushing touchdowns for quarterbacks. 331 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: But here's what's crazy. 332 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 4: He's scored more rushing touchdowns than a lot of Hall 333 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 4: of Fame running backs. Alan's total ranks twenty fifth in 334 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 4: NFL history among all players. 335 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 1: That's crally, that's crazy. I mean, so our guy had. 336 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 4: A list here, Okay, Gail Sayers or Josh Allen. 337 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: Who do you think has more rushing with Josh Allen? 338 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: Gale Sayers had a short career. Okay, let's go o. 339 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: J Simpson or Josh Allen. I don't know whatever happened 340 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: to Ojay, but I'd say Josh Allen, Thurman Thomas or 341 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 1: Josh Allen. Now that's closer. I would say Thurman. 342 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 4: Thomas, Josh Allen, Earl Campbell or Josh Allen. 343 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: I mean it's a theme here, yeah, yeah, No, I 344 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: would say Josh Allen Derman Thomas, it was it close. 345 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 1: It was close. 346 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, Thurman Thomas had sixty five and Josh Allen's had 347 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 4: seventy six. But Thrman Thomas was integral and all those gres. Yeah, 348 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 4: and this just goes to show Josh Allen is the man. 349 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,360 Speaker 4: I won't ask the question sometimes they put questions here for. 350 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 1: Me to ask. Colin. Are the bills wasting Josh Allen 351 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: but not wasting it? But he is now moving toward 352 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: the middle of his prime. The early years of it 353 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: are done. Now he's in the middle of it, and 354 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: you're getting to a point in three years he could 355 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 1: be like moving out of the prime. 356 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 2: When you run and. 357 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: Get hit, you get about eight years. He's still good 358 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 1: in the pocket. No, yeah, but Camon big Band got 359 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: old really fast. I mean Stafford's age quick. Stafford now 360 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: has held the year that it felt like when he 361 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: first got to LA And I mean I feel like 362 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: Stafford's getting great protection this year. Stafford all of a 363 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: sudden is not getting hit. 364 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 4: It's he's releasing the ball quickly. But like, yeah, Cam 365 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 4: Newton couldn't win from the pocket like Josh Allen, No way, Now, 366 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 4: Cam did take a bunch of hits, but he also 367 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 4: had some off field stuff that didn't endear teams. I'll 368 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,959 Speaker 4: just say this about Josh Allen Colin. He can stay healthy, 369 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 4: unlike Lamar Jackson and unlike Joe Burrow. 370 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 1: I mean, like, I'm sorry. 371 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 4: I know those guys are all going to be lumped together, 372 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 4: but Mahomes and Allen don't get hurt. 373 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,439 Speaker 1: I've said this about Kayleb Williams and bow Nicks. They 374 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: don't take a lot of sacks now, and they're durable. 375 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 1: And I mean, durability is a huge thing. Eli Manning, 376 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: Brett Farv, Tom Brady. Durability is a huge thing, all right. 377 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 4: Final story Collins Marcus Freeman, one of the best coaches 378 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 4: in college football. He's a little upset that Alabama leapt 379 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 4: ahead of the Irish and the latest college football playoff rankings. 380 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: Freeman said he disagreed. 381 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 4: We have sound of Marcus Freeman a little ticked off 382 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 4: about Alabama. 383 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:07,959 Speaker 5: Obviously, you're disappointed, but more so because a little bit 384 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 5: of confusion. You're confused in terms of what we could 385 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:18,439 Speaker 5: have done differently right and why we fell when we 386 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 5: won forty nine to twenty. I think we were up 387 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 5: forty forty two to six going in the fourth quarter. 388 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 5: You always look for calls and effect. You look for 389 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 5: a reason and why. You know, you go up or 390 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,199 Speaker 5: you fall. 391 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 4: This is one of the problems calling Chris Feldman. I'm 392 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 4: sure you read his column. I think he's coming on 393 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 4: the show later. Like there's no rhyme or reason to 394 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 4: what they're doing. It's goofy, it's embarrassing. 395 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: Well, you know, the print media, certainly not talk radio, 396 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 1: but print media has always had a soft spot for 397 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 1: the little guy. I do not I would take Miami 398 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,679 Speaker 1: and Notre Dame and Texas and put him in. I 399 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: think when you get to the final twelve teams, nobody 400 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: went to national championship. That doesn't recruit at an elite level. 401 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 1: So why are we trying to fool ourselves, including like 402 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: the second best team here or the third bet like 403 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: last year we had SMU in good program, shouldn't be 404 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: in a playoff. But if we're gonna do this and 405 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 1: kind of make exceptions so the little guy can play along, 406 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: all right, that's fine. But we don't have the twelve 407 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 1: best teams in. We just don't what we should do. 408 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: I think the better way to do it is do 409 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: the four four to two two thing they talked about, 410 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 1: which is SEC gets for Big ten gets four, Big 411 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: twelve gets four, ACC gets two. I mean that way, 412 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 1: at least you take the committee out of it. I 413 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 1: would have no problem doing the five five two. Well, wait, 414 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 1: we'll hold on. Hold on. 415 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 4: Four to four two is goofy because the fifth best 416 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 4: team in the Big ten could be better than the 417 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 4: fourth best team in the SEC, which would you know, 418 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 4: or vice versa. I think you got to toss that out. 419 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 4: I don't understand why they can't use logic and data 420 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 4: and numbers, which all show Notre Dame is a playoff team. 421 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 4: Everything you want to look at strength, the schedule, sager 422 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 4: and some of these sp plus some of these advanced stats, 423 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 4: like why can't they just do that? 424 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: Well they did. We used to have computers do it. 425 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 1: Nobody liked it. Well, that was only two teams, right, Well, 426 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 1: I mean you need more media to the computers, and 427 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 1: now it's a committee. I don't think any of those 428 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: aren't necessary. I don't think the NFL used computers. I 429 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: don't think the NFL uses an arbitrary ca Well that's 430 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: a pro league. 431 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:25,679 Speaker 5: Come on. 432 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: Well, college football now has never been more pro. You 433 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 1: have a free agency period, coaches make ten million plus. Yeah, 434 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: there's a salary cap. Come on, and no, no. 435 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 4: In college basketball, there's beef about who makes the NCAA tournament. 436 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 4: The problem is it seemed like sixty eight, right, you know, 437 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 4: nobody cares. But when it's like big brands, listen, if. 438 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: Notre Dame, Miami and Alabama all happened to miss, that's 439 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 1: terrible for college football. You got admit that. Oh again, 440 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 1: I don't have this soft spot for the little guy. 441 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that Utah shouldn't get in. I don't 442 00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: consider them a little guy or like B I don't 443 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: consider BYU with their huge nil money to be a 444 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: little guy. They're a very solid program and if they 445 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: go undefeated or only have one close loft. I watched 446 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: BYU play Texas Tech. It wasn't competitive. That was to me. 447 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,199 Speaker 1: That was their moment and it was not couldn't move 448 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: the ball. All right, you're not a playoff team. And 449 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: I don't lose a niche sleep over that. So J 450 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: mckle the news, Well that's the news, and thanks for 451 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: stopping by the Heard Line news. So there is this story. 452 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 1: Chums is reporting that Jannis Milwaukee buck Star and his 453 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: agent are now having conversations about his future and will 454 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 1: know more in the next couple of weeks. So, I mean, listen, 455 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,120 Speaker 1: Milwaukee's not even a legitimate team a big time threat 456 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 1: to win the East to in the East, not the West, 457 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 1: which may have like seven of the top eight teams 458 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 1: the East. One of the reasons I have so much 459 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 1: respect for the Green Bay Packers they have moved off icons, 460 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 1: Brett Aaron Rodgers far still had a lot in the tank. 461 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 1: So Milwaukee's five times as big as Green Bay. It's 462 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: the big city right next to Green Bay. I mean 463 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: they even have in Milwaukee, they even have a Costco. 464 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 1: And yet they act like Green Bay. Like the Packers 465 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 1: act like a big city team. You know, they move 466 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: off guys, they move off icons. They're like a They're 467 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 1: run like a big city team. And Milwaukee now it's like, 468 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:39,120 Speaker 1: come on, man, they're terrified to acknowledge that. Listen. They 469 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: don't control any of their first round picks until I 470 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 1: think it's twenty thirty one, and they're going to be 471 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 1: paying Damian Lillard twenty million a year for the next 472 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 1: four or five years. They're in a bad spot in Milwaukee. 473 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: They're not relevant in the East. The West has okay 474 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:04,719 Speaker 1: see in Denver, and I mean, go look at the West. 475 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 1: Go look at the standings in the West. I mean, 476 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: look how good the Lakers are. And we're like, yeah, 477 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 1: they couldn't win the West. So OKC, the Green Bay 478 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: Packers of the NBA OKC. Sam Presty moved off, James 479 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: Harden moved off, Paul George traded Russell Westbrook. Those are 480 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:27,360 Speaker 1: wildly popular players. So it's just interesting to me. I 481 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,199 Speaker 1: think the Milwaukee Bucks need to kind of reset their 482 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,919 Speaker 1: draft picks. I mean, they don't control any of their 483 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 1: first round picks. And the other thing that's scary about 484 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: that is that for a long time, for about a 485 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: twenty year period, first round NBA draft picks weren't that 486 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 1: valuable because you know, you were getting guys that were 487 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 1: nineteen years old. What's happened because of the nil college basketball. Now, 488 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: the next three picks next year are superstar level players, 489 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 1: and then the following ten after that could be all stars. 490 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: Over the last two to three years, if you noticed 491 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: how good the NBA drafts getting, why because guys like 492 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 1: Zach Edie are staying one more year in college because 493 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: of Nil and the American colleges are poaching the top 494 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: twelve to fifteen European young guys. So college basketball is 495 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: now incredibly watchable, packed with talent load. The best teams 496 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 1: have multiple NBA players. You want your draft picks, Yeah, 497 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: Milwaukee didn't control any of them for like twenty thirty one. 498 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 1: So right now Jannis is out for a couple of weeks. 499 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: Five of the top six teams records are in the West, 500 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: and Milwaukee's not viable in the East. Make a move. 501 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 1: I mean, the last three seasons with Yannis, who there's 502 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: an argument he's been the first or second best player 503 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: in the league. Last three years in the East first 504 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: round exits, So they're they're acting the packers down the 505 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: road or up the road. I mean, they're moving on Farv. 506 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: It's hard to explain how below Farv was in Green 507 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: Bay more, I mean, which is amazing. Farv was more beloved, 508 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: moved off him, moved off him, and he was still 509 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 1: really good. Remember that Minnesota year or two he was 510 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 1: still a pro bowler. So I think the smartest people 511 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: I've ever met, ever met in any industry. They have 512 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: one thing in common. It's not where they went to college. 513 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 1: It's not it really isn't flexibility. They crave flexibility. That's 514 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 1: what Jerry Jones did. Like Cowboy fans did not want 515 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 1: Jerry Jones to trade Micah, and Jerry's like, I have 516 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: to to get flexibility. The Bucks are bad in the East. 517 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: They have no flexibility, don't control their draft picks, paying 518 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: Damian Lillard. They got to take a big swing. They 519 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: are stuck. You got to get out of being stuck. 520 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: That's what Jerry Jones didn't sign Mike. He's like, I 521 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 1: gotta get unstuck. So it's almost like I'm telling Milwaukee, 522 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 1: like diversify your portfolio. And I love Yannis, but this 523 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: is it's not working. And I'm not being a hypocrite. 524 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: I said this three years ago when they got really old, 525 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: really fast, Like, guys, you gotta title out of it, 526 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 1: restock the cupboard, get five. I mean, I think with 527 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: Yannis and j Mack. You may disagree. I think with 528 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 1: Yannis you could get four first round picks, and in 529 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: an improved draft, for I would give up four first 530 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: round picks. 531 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 4: The problem is nobody really has that except really okayc 532 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 4: which is scary. 533 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 1: And I don't think will happen. That's the problem. 534 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 4: So Colin, let's say there's nobody with four first round picks. 535 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 4: Would you want to would you want to clean up 536 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 4: the books and just get like salary dust and you. 537 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: Go to ok see, give us chet Holmgren. We'll give 538 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: you y Honis four first round picks, and like a 539 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: lou Dort or another really good you give me, I'll 540 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,959 Speaker 1: give you Yannis. I get because okay, so you can 541 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 1: do it. Four first round picks. I need a big 542 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: give me chet Holmgren who's younger. It may be a 543 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 1: more natural and and uh fight offensive player, can shoot threes, 544 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: can handle the ball. Well, you give me home Grin, 545 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 1: you give me another starter. I need another good starter 546 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: and a bench player. Well, they might want a round picks. 547 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 4: They might want to move off Caruso or one of 548 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 4: these guys that they got to pay again in a 549 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 4: year or two. But that's interesting. Con let me ask you. 550 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 4: The thunder just won the title. They are I believe, 551 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 4: twenty one and one on pace to win seventy four games, 552 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 4: and you're gonna break that up and bring on Yiannis. 553 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 1: I'm not giving up Sga. I'm not giving up Jalen Williams. 554 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: I'm not giving up Sam Presty. I'm not giving up 555 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 1: the GM. I'd be giving up a starter who's not 556 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 1: as good as Giannis, another starter and four picks. Well, 557 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 1: I might take more than just one. They might take 558 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: Russo and Caseon r Ask you this, what is ok 559 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: C gonna do with all these first round picks. Well, 560 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: that's the thing. 561 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 4: They can move off like they're players like five, six, seven, 562 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 4: eight are good. They're gonna have to pay them. Just 563 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 4: let them walk, don't pay them and bring on they might. 564 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 4: As of right now, okay See has two top ten 565 00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 4: picks in the draft next year. 566 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: That's terrifying for them. League. Now, Giannis makes what is 567 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 1: it fifty a year, chet Holmgren makes thirteen, So you 568 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: have to get the salaries to match. You may need 569 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 1: a third you may need a third team like Houston, Fine. 570 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 4: But yeah, salaries connext now, that would be one of 571 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 4: the best dynastys in NBA history. If you bring giannest 572 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 4: okay See that arrival the Warriors and Durant and Curry 573 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 4: that arrival Jordan's Bulls. 574 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: Would it it'll be it'd be great to this idea. Ooh, 575 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: you can't break stuff up. Remember when the I always 576 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 1: say you need to break stuff up, like every couple 577 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: of years because like maybe maybe you don't. But at 578 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 1: the trade deadline, because okay, so he's the best team 579 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 1: in the league, and you're like, why should we take 580 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 1: a chance on it to get Yannis, lose Holmegren, lou 581 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: Dort four picks. You can't just say howe Rossman can 582 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 1: win a super Bowl? You know what? How he does 583 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,479 Speaker 1: in the offseason trades people. 584 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, but he's not trading Jalen Hurts, sa Quon Barkley, 585 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 4: AJ Brown. He's not trading his core guys. You could 586 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 4: do stuff around the edges. I mean, Chet's their third 587 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 4: best player. He was their second best player in certain 588 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 4: games last year. I would trade my third best player 589 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 4: for Giannis. 590 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 1: Third and four picks and two other guys. 591 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a whole I mean, if you're the Bucks, 592 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 4: that that's a good you. 593 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 1: It's a great get. If you get four picks. Well, 594 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: they're trying to get unstuck. Yeah, got to take a 595 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 1: big swing on I'm just throwing it out there. You 596 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: got to get salaries to match. But I'm curious with 597 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 1: the OKC fan. 598 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 4: We have a lot of OKC fans, at least a 599 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 4: dozen listen to this show, so I'm really curious what 600 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 4: they're thought. 601 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: Sorry, guys, I had to Greg Cosell. Top of next hour, 602 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 1: It's The Herd. 603 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,719 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 604 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 2: and noon eastern non a em Pacific Saturday. 605 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 4: For the first time in conference history, number one and 606 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 4: number two. 607 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 1: Collide in the Big Ten title game. 608 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 4: Heisman front runners collide as Julian Sayan leads Number one 609 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 4: Ohio State against Fernando Mendoza and number two Indiana. Coverage 610 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 4: begins saturd at six thirty eastern non Fox. 611 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 1: I'll take Ohio State by a touchdown ish, I think 612 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 1: Georgia struggles with Bama. I would probably take Georgia to 613 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 1: beat Alabama. Yeah, Texas Tech Big twelve and nobody cares 614 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,360 Speaker 1: too much about the ACC, although I think it's ridiculous 615 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 1: that if Duke wins over Virginia then nobody from the 616 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 1: ACC goes Bruce Feldman later on the show. So football's 617 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 1: got a salary cap, Hockey's got one, NBA has one 618 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:44,320 Speaker 1: MLS has, you know, tight screws on their salaries. Baseball 619 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 1: does not have a salary cap. I'm pretty okay with it. 620 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 1: I think there should be a floor where a billionaire 621 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 1: should have to spend a certain amount of money to 622 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 1: be viable. But I don't like taking money from the 623 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 1: richest owners and the the smartest gms and owners and 624 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 1: giving it to the guys that aren't as well run. 625 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 1: Dave Roberts was asked this week about a Major League 626 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 1: Baseball salary cap. The Dodgers manager said this. 627 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 8: You know what, I'm alright with that. I think the 628 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 8: NBA has done a nice job of kind of revenue 629 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 8: sharing with the players and the owners. But if you're 630 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 8: going to kind of suppress spending at the top, I 631 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:27,799 Speaker 8: think that you got to raise the floor to make 632 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 8: those bottom feed or spend money too. 633 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 1: So far, the Dylan Ceize just made two hundred and 634 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,360 Speaker 1: ten million dollars. He was acquired by a team. It 635 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 1: was not the Yankees or the Dodgers, or the Cubs, 636 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,439 Speaker 1: or the Mets or the Phillies. It was a team 637 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 1: in Canada. Toronto's like, we got a rich owner, We're 638 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 1: gonna spend money. By the way, richest owner in baseball 639 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 1: is Steve Cohen. How the Mets do They've missed the 640 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:58,320 Speaker 1: playoffs three times. By the way, the Washington Nationals owner 641 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,399 Speaker 1: third or fourth richest, they were the third worst team 642 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 1: in baseball. Major League Baseball is on fire. The TV ratings, 643 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 1: the attendance, the vibe. And there's two reasons it's on fire. 644 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 1: Number one, they've done a really smart job to speed 645 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 1: the game up. Rob Manfred deserves a lot of credit, 646 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,240 Speaker 1: and it also helps that the big brands are on fire. 647 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,879 Speaker 1: But you know what else made the playoffs really great? 648 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:25,279 Speaker 1: The underdog stories. The well run Cleveland Guardians, the well 649 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 1: run Seattle Mariners. They're really well run Milwaukee Brewers. So 650 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,920 Speaker 1: you had a lot of David and Goliath. Now Goliath 651 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 1: may win those in the end, but it made for 652 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 1: fascinating storytelling. So again, Steve Cohen Ilich family in Detroit, 653 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:45,399 Speaker 1: I think second richest the Nationals owners, So I don't 654 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 1: think those guys should have to give money to the 655 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Pirates billionaire. The Pirates are bad, not because of 656 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 1: Major League Baseball or because of revenue sharing. The Pirates 657 00:36:55,080 --> 00:37:01,359 Speaker 1: owners cheap cause small market Seattle, the mall market Milwaukee 658 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:05,319 Speaker 1: is doing just fine. Milwaukee is really well run. Does 659 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:09,239 Speaker 1: Milwaukee have that much more money than Pittsburgh? Aren't they 660 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,920 Speaker 1: kind of the same size as a market. So I 661 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,720 Speaker 1: think baseball's on fire because of Rob Manfred's changes, because 662 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,759 Speaker 1: the big markets are crushing, and because it's not as 663 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 1: lobsided as you want to believe it is. There's a 664 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 1: lot of small market stories doing really well. At one point, 665 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 1: I don't know what it ended up being in the 666 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 1: regular season. Didn't the Brewers sweep the Dodgers six to 667 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 1: oz in the regular season? Now by the time the 668 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 1: postseason came around and the Dodgers solved their bullpen, it 669 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 1: was a different story. But I mean, to me, the 670 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:47,279 Speaker 1: sport's in an incredible spot, an absolutely incredible spot. We 671 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:52,960 Speaker 1: do have ourselves a dynasty going on because the Dodgers 672 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 1: have done one thing that is available to other owners, 673 00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 1: but they haven't done it. They have deferred payments, and 674 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:05,280 Speaker 1: so by getting Yoshi and Otani, these are unbelievable, transcendent players. 675 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:10,320 Speaker 1: I mean, Yoshi was unbelievable, and the Dodgers out bit everybody, 676 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:14,240 Speaker 1: and no question. But I've said this before about the Dodgers, 677 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 1: is they have so many guys Max Munsey, the A's 678 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,320 Speaker 1: got rid of him. I mean, you look at Tommy Edmond. 679 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,280 Speaker 1: It was a two to sixty hitter, a good defensive 680 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,759 Speaker 1: player for the Cardinals. They moved off him. The Dodgers 681 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 1: are not just about Otani. Otani mostly could not hit 682 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:34,359 Speaker 1: in the postseason. Mookie Bett struggled hit it. A lot 683 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,359 Speaker 1: of their stars struggled. It was a lot of other 684 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 1: guys in the bullpen starting finally getting healthy. So I 685 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 1: think baseball is in an incredible place. If you're gonna 686 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 1: put anything in force teams at the bottom to have 687 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,839 Speaker 1: to spend their billionaire owner to have to spend. Because 688 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,279 Speaker 1: I do think the bottom of baseball right now. I 689 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,279 Speaker 1: mean the A's feel like a Triple A team, and 690 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,719 Speaker 1: I think that bad for the sport. But the NFL's 691 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:05,719 Speaker 1: got nine to ten unwatchable teams, NBA alas does so 692 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:10,319 Speaker 1: the bottom of these leagues has never been great. All Right, 693 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,880 Speaker 1: Greg Cosel is showing up. I did I want to 694 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 1: throw this out there. I mean maybe you noticed, but 695 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 1: I predicted when the nil happened in college football, I said, 696 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 1: the SEC will still be very good, but it won't 697 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 1: be as dominant. There's a lot more money at Notre 698 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:34,800 Speaker 1: Dame phil Knight in Oregon, USC California's economy, Michigan, Michigan 699 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 1: and Notre Dame have top ten endowments in the country. 700 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 1: The other eight are mostly Ivy League schools. And did 701 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 1: you notice now that you can pay players, did you 702 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,440 Speaker 1: notice who had the best recruiting class USC at A 703 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:52,280 Speaker 1: Los Angeles number two, Oregon, Phil Knight, Notre Dame depending 704 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 1: on the service, number three? First time in eighteen years, 705 00:39:55,640 --> 00:40:01,560 Speaker 1: wasn't an SEC team. Now George's got money. But you know, 706 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 1: we were joking around this morning in SEC, and this 707 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 1: is this is true in the SEC Alabama territory. Your 708 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,400 Speaker 1: number two or three booster can be a car dealer. 709 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,799 Speaker 1: In the Big tenets a car maker, and that's there 710 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,600 Speaker 1: is a difference. And that doesn't mean Georgia can't be 711 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:23,320 Speaker 1: really good. But when the NIL got created and college 712 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:27,040 Speaker 1: football went from purely college football to about thirty thirty 713 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 1: five percent NFL free agency scheduling was going to be 714 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 1: more even. Pay all your players that can transfer it 715 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:39,200 Speaker 1: any time. And so you know, when I watched, did 716 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:43,160 Speaker 1: you notice who signed a five star quarterback in the 717 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:49,440 Speaker 1: South Vandy? Why would that be why what probably to 718 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:49,839 Speaker 1: pay him? 719 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:50,080 Speaker 4: Right? 720 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 1: The New York Times in twenty seventeen did a study 721 00:40:53,960 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 1: on economic outcomes. Economic outcomes, how much people that go 722 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:05,239 Speaker 1: to all the SEC schools make. Vandy over two hundred 723 00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,840 Speaker 1: thousand dollars the median family income Banna closer to ninety 724 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,840 Speaker 1: That's still pretty good, right. But in the end, NIL 725 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:17,000 Speaker 1: didn't squish the little guy. Indiana is now a power. 726 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 1: Vanderbilt is outbidding everywhere. Vandy is the heady school in 727 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:26,160 Speaker 1: the South two Lane by the way, another heady school. 728 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:30,960 Speaker 1: They're pretty good. Everybody thought the NIL would squish the 729 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 1: little guy. It's hurt the big guy. It is seems 730 00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:40,279 Speaker 1: to me if Bandy's rolling, that wasn't happening ten years ago.