1
00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,720
Speaker 1: My next guest is an award winning civil rights attorney,

2
00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:08,480
Speaker 1: autism advocate, bestselling author, TV host, and a legal analyst

3
00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:12,119
Speaker 1: for CNN. Please welcome back to Money Making Conversations or

4
00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:19,640
Speaker 1: Riva Martin. Hello, Rashon, are you my friend? Good? Good? Ariva?

5
00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:23,640
Speaker 1: So you know the West coast? Correct? Yes, Angeles? What time?

6
00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:25,599
Speaker 1: Because you know I'm on the East coast and I

7
00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:28,520
Speaker 1: care what time I call a Riva or email her,

8
00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,280
Speaker 1: She responds, So what time do you get up on

9
00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:35,919
Speaker 1: the West coast? Riva? Well, I have a pretty strict

10
00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:40,559
Speaker 1: exercise regime that I follow, so in order to do

11
00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:42,600
Speaker 1: everything I need to do in the morning before I

12
00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:47,040
Speaker 1: hit the gym, I get up around five am Pacific

13
00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,159
Speaker 1: Standard time. Okay, get up at five am. Because you

14
00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:51,960
Speaker 1: respond back to you. That's what I love about it,

15
00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,520
Speaker 1: you know. So obviously the phone is always near you

16
00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:58,360
Speaker 1: because you are always making yourself available to breaking news

17
00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:03,280
Speaker 1: or breaking political news for seeing incorrect. Yes, and because

18
00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:07,240
Speaker 1: my job is breaking news, you know, and news breaks uh.

19
00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,800
Speaker 1: In this world we live in today twenty four seven,

20
00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:14,600
Speaker 1: I'm always checking my news site to see what's going on,

21
00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:18,759
Speaker 1: what's hot, what's you know, what's trending? Because I never

22
00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:21,280
Speaker 1: know when I'm going to have to show up and

23
00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,000
Speaker 1: start talking about what's happening that or get a call

24
00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:26,480
Speaker 1: or email saying did you see this story? Or what

25
00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,479
Speaker 1: are your thoughts? What are your you know, your your opinions.

26
00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,920
Speaker 1: And I'm a news junky. I love it, so I

27
00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,800
Speaker 1: don't feel like I'm working. I feel like I'm enriching

28
00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:39,399
Speaker 1: myself and it's what I love. I love news, so

29
00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,240
Speaker 1: I can't consume enough of it now you seeing it

30
00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,920
Speaker 1: being an analysts on CNN. You know everybody wants jobs,

31
00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,880
Speaker 1: and how did that opportunity come to you? And how

32
00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:50,720
Speaker 1: do you, Like I said, you always told me you

33
00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,840
Speaker 1: enjoy the news, you stay on top of it naturally. Anyway,

34
00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,520
Speaker 1: how did the opportunity to come to you? Well, that's

35
00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:59,440
Speaker 1: a good question. I get asked that question a lot,

36
00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,200
Speaker 1: and you're right, lots of people. As a lawyer friend

37
00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:04,600
Speaker 1: of mine in lossents every time he sees me, said

38
00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:09,639
Speaker 1: they I want your job. Uh. But I was very

39
00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:16,320
Speaker 1: fortunate I started guests appearing. You know, I made myself

40
00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,239
Speaker 1: available to some local news channels here in Los Angeles

41
00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,640
Speaker 1: to talk about a bunch of local topics and things

42
00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:24,959
Speaker 1: that were in the news. In the Los Angeles community

43
00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:29,000
Speaker 1: and starting out doing those vocal news segments led me

44
00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:33,239
Speaker 1: to getting some opportunities to talk on national TV. And

45
00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,320
Speaker 1: it wasn't just being n it was MSNBC, it was Spots,

46
00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:41,720
Speaker 1: it was UH, ABC News and other national news outlets.

47
00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,919
Speaker 1: Is where I actually started. And before I actually became

48
00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:50,520
Speaker 1: a paid contributor and a contracted with CNN, I wouldn't

49
00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:54,280
Speaker 1: frequently appear, sometimes in one day on four or five

50
00:02:54,320 --> 00:03:01,360
Speaker 1: different networks, UH, including UH, the BBC and Good Morning

51
00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,639
Speaker 1: Britain and some shows that only you know can be

52
00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:10,079
Speaker 1: UH shows that are aired outside the country. Now, let

53
00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,520
Speaker 1: measu you this. So what you do, I think is

54
00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:18,000
Speaker 1: is opinionated has to be fact driven. Do you feel

55
00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,679
Speaker 1: a pressure do you feel to get it right or

56
00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:23,880
Speaker 1: or because of the fact that it is an opinion

57
00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,880
Speaker 1: but it is fact based. How do how do you

58
00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:30,440
Speaker 1: deal with that? Yeah, that's a good question too, Rashan.

59
00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,320
Speaker 1: And yes, I do feel pressure to be accurate because

60
00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:37,600
Speaker 1: people follow me, people watching me, people UH quote me,

61
00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,520
Speaker 1: they recite what they hear me say. And I picked

62
00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:44,840
Speaker 1: that very seriously. And when I give my opinion or

63
00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,400
Speaker 1: I you know, way in on issues and I'm talking

64
00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,840
Speaker 1: you know, some of the biggest issues in this country,

65
00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:53,960
Speaker 1: from abortion rights to sexual harassment to you know, the

66
00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:58,839
Speaker 1: political debates that we just had with the Democratic candidates. Uh,

67
00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,760
Speaker 1: police boute out and police shooting. I mean, all of

68
00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:05,040
Speaker 1: the big issues that that are in the news every day.

69
00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:08,640
Speaker 1: I typically am weighing in on and I want the

70
00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,080
Speaker 1: information I provide to be active. I don't want it

71
00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,800
Speaker 1: to be quote unquote fake news. I don't want to

72
00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:17,479
Speaker 1: give the wrong statistics. I don't want to mislead people

73
00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,839
Speaker 1: about the facts. So I often tell people for a

74
00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:24,640
Speaker 1: three minute segment that I'm doing, I may spend three

75
00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:29,840
Speaker 1: to five hours researching and reading, and not just one

76
00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:33,960
Speaker 1: outlet or one opinion or one source, but reading and

77
00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,400
Speaker 1: listening to videos and getting as much factual background as

78
00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:41,760
Speaker 1: I can because unfortunately, so much there's a lot of

79
00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:46,120
Speaker 1: no wayse in the news. Uh, there's so many different sites,

80
00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:50,520
Speaker 1: there's so many different sources, and unfortunately, now you may

81
00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:54,080
Speaker 1: have a story and that's released and it will be

82
00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,599
Speaker 1: picked up by a hundred different outlets, and that story

83
00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:01,960
Speaker 1: may contain a bunch of inaccuracy, and everybody just picks

84
00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,440
Speaker 1: up on it and starts reciting it as if it

85
00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,599
Speaker 1: is accurate, but when you do your research and dig deeper,

86
00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,000
Speaker 1: you learned that maybe some of the facts, the facts

87
00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,960
Speaker 1: of information sited are actually inaccurate. So I think I

88
00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:17,520
Speaker 1: have a responsibility that someone who has a large platform

89
00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,400
Speaker 1: to make sure that I'm using that platform in a

90
00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,880
Speaker 1: responsible way. Well, you've always been responsible when I've spoken

91
00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:28,120
Speaker 1: to you. Your background out of St. Louis uh Initiative,

92
00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,840
Speaker 1: grew up in the inner city, and you went east

93
00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:34,040
Speaker 1: and that go with a Harvard grad and now you west.

94
00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,000
Speaker 1: You have a law firm with your husband based in

95
00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:40,240
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, Martin and Martin. How is that working? Working

96
00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,400
Speaker 1: in the environment of trying to maintain a balance, like

97
00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,680
Speaker 1: we're gonna get your kids, because that's that's a major

98
00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,440
Speaker 1: part of your balanced life. Because like you said, you're

99
00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,680
Speaker 1: up at five years a radial resume. I didn't know this.

100
00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:55,000
Speaker 1: You you you run five k races. Yeah, I became

101
00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,840
Speaker 1: an avid runner. I was doing half a marathons a

102
00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:02,880
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. Uh, and I kind of have

103
00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:07,360
Speaker 1: marathon Rishawn, not even close to have maybe trodden I'm

104
00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:12,480
Speaker 1: to have a friend as a marathon and she got

105
00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:16,440
Speaker 1: me excited and geeked about running. So I was that

106
00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,160
Speaker 1: was pretty hardcore for a while. I've kind of switched

107
00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,240
Speaker 1: up and I'm working out more in the gym now,

108
00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,479
Speaker 1: but I still I'm gonna do a five k on

109
00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,400
Speaker 1: the fourth of July here to celebrate the holiday. But

110
00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,400
Speaker 1: you know, you mentioned balance life, and it is so important,

111
00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,719
Speaker 1: whether you're a woman or a man, that you have

112
00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,800
Speaker 1: not only what you do professionally to earn a living,

113
00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,520
Speaker 1: but what you do socially, what you do for the community,

114
00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:42,200
Speaker 1: what you do to just even you know, gratify yourself

115
00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,719
Speaker 1: and and uh, you know, enrich your own soul. So

116
00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:50,680
Speaker 1: I'm all about self care, self love. Uh, I'm also

117
00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:54,679
Speaker 1: about you know, finding those opportunities to do those things

118
00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:58,280
Speaker 1: that that really helped, you know, keep you going, those

119
00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,680
Speaker 1: things that motivate you, that inspire are you, that gives

120
00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:05,080
Speaker 1: you a sense of renewal. And it's sometimes canna get lost.

121
00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,479
Speaker 1: And I hear a lot of women there a lot

122
00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:11,160
Speaker 1: of speaking around the country, particularly to women business owners

123
00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:17,280
Speaker 1: and professionals and aspiring entrepreneurs, And that's always the biggest question,

124
00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,200
Speaker 1: you know, can I have it all? Can I have

125
00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:21,440
Speaker 1: a family? Can I have a husband or a partner

126
00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:26,240
Speaker 1: or a spouse and children and you know, be successful

127
00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:30,120
Speaker 1: in whatever my career choices are. And I like to

128
00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,880
Speaker 1: tell people the myths of having it all, uh is

129
00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,800
Speaker 1: in some ways just that and not to get caught

130
00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:41,080
Speaker 1: up in how society defines what that all is. But

131
00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:45,200
Speaker 1: I think women have to redefine or define for themselves.

132
00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,120
Speaker 1: You know, what is a happy life of them that

133
00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,800
Speaker 1: for a lot of women. It doesn't mean having children.

134
00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:54,520
Speaker 1: That's not every woman's goal with or dream. Um. Not

135
00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:57,840
Speaker 1: every woman wants to be married, you know, not every

136
00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:01,080
Speaker 1: woman wants to be in the c suites. Know, I

137
00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,880
Speaker 1: think you have to define for yourself you know what

138
00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:12,280
Speaker 1: a happy balance life is, uh, you know, decided by

139
00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:17,640
Speaker 1: those in the media that would like to tell you.

140
00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:20,880
Speaker 1: You are talking to altorney Reva Martin. Area of legal

141
00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:25,040
Speaker 1: expertise encompasses civil rights, gender issues, politics and rates. We

142
00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,080
Speaker 1: come back, she's been honored. We want to talk about

143
00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:33,839
Speaker 1: a lots of our causes, particular autism advocacy. Um. Just what,

144
00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:37,280
Speaker 1: Sean McDonald, how are you going? You listening to money

145
00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,679
Speaker 1: making conversations on the phone. As an award winning civil

146
00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:43,320
Speaker 1: rights attorney, autism at advocate Best in the Author TV

147
00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:48,160
Speaker 1: hosts legal analysts at CNN area of legal expertise encompasses

148
00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:52,320
Speaker 1: civil rights, gender issues, politics and race. Uh please welcome

149
00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,800
Speaker 1: back or Reva Martin, Riva. Let me ask you this

150
00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:58,880
Speaker 1: question about your legal area expertise. How do you become

151
00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,680
Speaker 1: an expert? And say, I just just just a question.

152
00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,400
Speaker 1: I just need to know because sometimes we say these

153
00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:08,240
Speaker 1: things like civil rights, gender issues, we say politics and race.

154
00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,800
Speaker 1: How does one to become an authority and expertise in

155
00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:16,600
Speaker 1: those areas? It's primarily by the practice that you engage

156
00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:21,520
Speaker 1: in law school is uh more about general law. It

157
00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,960
Speaker 1: doesn't most of all, don't require you to major in

158
00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:29,480
Speaker 1: any particular area. You may take more classes in one

159
00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:34,520
Speaker 1: particular area, say corporate law or uh civil rights law.

160
00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:38,520
Speaker 1: You may load up on particular courses while in law school.

161
00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,920
Speaker 1: But but essentially we all graduate with a law degree

162
00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:46,720
Speaker 1: that gives us the ability to choose any practice area.

163
00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:51,160
Speaker 1: So your expertise comes from the practice that you uh

164
00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,840
Speaker 1: you know, start working in once you graduate. So for me,

165
00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,120
Speaker 1: I spent a very brief period of time at a

166
00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:03,080
Speaker 1: large Wall Street law arm where I was doing definitely

167
00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,160
Speaker 1: more corporate law. And I left that law firm and

168
00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:10,160
Speaker 1: went into a small private practice with a partner, and

169
00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,840
Speaker 1: it was there that partner had been that lawyer that

170
00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,480
Speaker 1: I started working with and built the business relationship which

171
00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:20,800
Speaker 1: had been working in the area of civil rights litigation.

172
00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:25,120
Speaker 1: And I learned the practice area primarily from my partner.

173
00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:28,800
Speaker 1: And a big part of my civil rights work involves

174
00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:33,640
Speaker 1: disability rights, and that was I incorporated disability rights into

175
00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:37,480
Speaker 1: my practice. After my son Marty was diagnosed autism. I

176
00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:41,080
Speaker 1: met so many families who had issues either in their

177
00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,840
Speaker 1: local schools or in their hoccal communities, and they were

178
00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:48,600
Speaker 1: hooking for representation. They want to file federal civil rights

179
00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:53,400
Speaker 1: of office because their kids had been discriminated against because

180
00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:57,600
Speaker 1: of their disabilities. Um. And that was what really helped

181
00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,880
Speaker 1: me expand my civil rights practice. And just naturally I

182
00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:05,360
Speaker 1: gravitated towards working with women who uh you know many

183
00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:09,560
Speaker 1: women who have been sexually assaulted, sexually abused, actually harassed

184
00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:13,640
Speaker 1: uh in the workplace, minorities who have been discriminated against

185
00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:18,640
Speaker 1: on the basis of their race, uh, gender biased gender discriminations.

186
00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,800
Speaker 1: So for me, it was about a personal with my

187
00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,960
Speaker 1: son and then just my own personal interest in the

188
00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:31,080
Speaker 1: areas of civil rights mediation. Now you know, legal commercials

189
00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:35,320
Speaker 1: or commercials, you know, are dominating everything there going I

190
00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,920
Speaker 1: see if I see him Morgan and Morgan, I see,

191
00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:43,120
Speaker 1: uh call now now more money, we get your five

192
00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,719
Speaker 1: thousand dollars a million dollars. Listen to this. I went that.

193
00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,560
Speaker 1: When I went, I went, what is going on with

194
00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:54,160
Speaker 1: the legal profession? Well, the legal profession. For many years

195
00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:58,080
Speaker 1: there were prohibitions against advertising. So if you think back

196
00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:01,960
Speaker 1: twenty years ago, you didn't see all those illegal law

197
00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:06,560
Speaker 1: firm ads on television. And over years those restrictions have

198
00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:11,320
Speaker 1: been you know, loosened, and the lawyers have started to

199
00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:15,400
Speaker 1: be treated by the profession like any other business. So

200
00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,080
Speaker 1: you turn on the television and you see all these

201
00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,880
Speaker 1: asks for these for profit colleges, you know, get your

202
00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:25,400
Speaker 1: degree in uh, you know, dentistry or become a dental system,

203
00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,000
Speaker 1: become a medical as system. So just like those colleges

204
00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:32,160
Speaker 1: advertised once I'd said, the handcuffs were taken off lawyers

205
00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:36,720
Speaker 1: and they were able to advertise. They realize that that,

206
00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,320
Speaker 1: you know, that's a lucrative business. And there are people

207
00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:44,200
Speaker 1: sitting at home watching television. You know, they don't have accents,

208
00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,000
Speaker 1: they don't know lawyers, they don't have funds for attorneys.

209
00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:52,120
Speaker 1: So they see those ads and they worked, because if

210
00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,640
Speaker 1: they didn't work, you wouldn't see so many on television.

211
00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:58,120
Speaker 1: So a lot of lawyers depend on that heavy television

212
00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:02,160
Speaker 1: advertising as a way to drive and business to their firms.

213
00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,600
Speaker 1: And it works obviously because like I said, every major

214
00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,360
Speaker 1: city I go into our not even major city because

215
00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,640
Speaker 1: a lot of these lawyerously they kind of like a

216
00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,160
Speaker 1: pair up with other law firms and different cities and

217
00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:14,360
Speaker 1: they kind of like umbrella like, so they've got three

218
00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:18,560
Speaker 1: hundred lawyers that can, uh, how do your case. A

219
00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,640
Speaker 1: lot of firms are you know, national firms, they have

220
00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:27,080
Speaker 1: local affiliates in different cities, and you know the lawyering.

221
00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:30,000
Speaker 1: And unfortunately law school they don't teach you about the

222
00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:33,160
Speaker 1: business of law. But lawyering, uh is no different than

223
00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:37,360
Speaker 1: running a sandwich shop, a coffee shop, or any other

224
00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,600
Speaker 1: kind of business. I have the same issues, personnel issues,

225
00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:45,800
Speaker 1: marketing issues, finance issues. You just provide a service called

226
00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:51,440
Speaker 1: legal services, but you could be providing orange use. It

227
00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,720
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. At the end of the day, it's a

228
00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:57,839
Speaker 1: for profit business. Now, hopefully, depending on the kind of

229
00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:59,880
Speaker 1: law that you practice, you might be doing some good

230
00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:03,520
Speaker 1: in the world. But to keep those doors open. You know,

231
00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:07,520
Speaker 1: you've got bringing revenue and deal with the same uh

232
00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:11,160
Speaker 1: you know, finance issues and any other business stuff. Uh. Weva.

233
00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:15,600
Speaker 1: We mentioned earlier about you being a autism advocacy advocate

234
00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,560
Speaker 1: and then your youngest son has autism and you started

235
00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:22,640
Speaker 1: the special needs networking. On July twenty seven, Holly Robinson

236
00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,360
Speaker 1: Pete and her husband will be honoring you and uh

237
00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,000
Speaker 1: tremendous program that I will be in attendance. I will

238
00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:31,000
Speaker 1: be there also long being honored that same night, to

239
00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,880
Speaker 1: be an Eva Longoria. When you're being honored because the

240
00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,320
Speaker 1: recognition have come to you on a regular basis, because

241
00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:39,480
Speaker 1: you're passionate about it, because this is a personal concern

242
00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,280
Speaker 1: with yours. To be honored on that event on July

243
00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,600
Speaker 1: twenty seven, what does that mean for your brand? What

244
00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:46,920
Speaker 1: it means to the attention you're trying to bring to

245
00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,800
Speaker 1: the cause of autism because also Holly Robinson Pete and

246
00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,840
Speaker 1: Rode Pete have a have a son who has autism

247
00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:56,960
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, I'm excited about it here. Rodney and

248
00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:00,320
Speaker 1: Holly and I have collaborated in the past at so

249
00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:04,800
Speaker 1: they have a foundation uh that works. They do a

250
00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:07,120
Speaker 1: lot of work with adults with artists, and they've opened

251
00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:11,160
Speaker 1: up a couple of centers that provide job training. Uh.

252
00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,240
Speaker 1: The work that my organization does it's different and that

253
00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:20,480
Speaker 1: we've really focused on underserved poor communities, early intervention, early detection,

254
00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:25,720
Speaker 1: and providing autism behavioral therapies for kids as well as

255
00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,520
Speaker 1: advocacy training for their parents. And we've also focused a

256
00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:33,320
Speaker 1: lot on legislation within really the drivers of some key

257
00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,160
Speaker 1: laws that have been passed in the state of California,

258
00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:40,800
Speaker 1: and the consultants at the national level on several federal

259
00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:45,960
Speaker 1: pieces of legislation. So it's great when you have organizations,

260
00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:49,680
Speaker 1: you know, whether it's save the wells or save the children,

261
00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:53,560
Speaker 1: that have common goals, common purposes for those organizations to

262
00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:57,040
Speaker 1: figure out ways to work together. When I first started

263
00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:59,840
Speaker 1: my organization, you know, people would always ask me about

264
00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:02,440
Speaker 1: how Holly, and you know, Holly tells me people always

265
00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:07,320
Speaker 1: ask her about me. But what I'm excited about it

266
00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,120
Speaker 1: is an opportunity to show her audience, which she has

267
00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:13,080
Speaker 1: this really at this event she gives every summer. She's

268
00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,880
Speaker 1: at twenty one or twenty third year. But it's it's

269
00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:20,280
Speaker 1: been going strong and autism and purposes these which her

270
00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:23,600
Speaker 1: dad had partisans, but now her brother has partisans. But

271
00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:27,280
Speaker 1: just like the opportunity for me to show the autism

272
00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:31,320
Speaker 1: and the broader social justice visability community that you know,

273
00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:36,200
Speaker 1: here to nonprofits run by African American families who have

274
00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,880
Speaker 1: been touched by this disorder, and you know, we're working

275
00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:43,480
Speaker 1: together for a common goal which is helping thousands, not

276
00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:48,080
Speaker 1: billions of other families and children are inductantly So I'm

277
00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:51,920
Speaker 1: excited about it. Excited to see you, Excited to see uh,

278
00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,880
Speaker 1: you know, the great group of people that Holly and

279
00:16:54,960 --> 00:17:02,320
Speaker 1: Rottney Green together every year, the star studded event. Yes, Malibu, California, Yeah,

280
00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:08,479
Speaker 1: beautiful state, amount overlooking the ocean or ever? Your focus

281
00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:15,960
Speaker 1: going in and out? Are you walking around or your phone? Okay? Cool?

282
00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,199
Speaker 1: Was it going in and out? Sometimes you're clear, sometimes

283
00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:19,680
Speaker 1: you're not clear, and I do want to make sure

284
00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,360
Speaker 1: that sorry, and I'm saying, you know, it's a big

285
00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:26,840
Speaker 1: party but with a really incredible purpose. Well, the thing

286
00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,000
Speaker 1: about it is that you know we've got two minutes,

287
00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,000
Speaker 1: less than two minutes left, and I know you're branching

288
00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:34,919
Speaker 1: out into uh doing your own productions, uh, you know,

289
00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:38,640
Speaker 1: executive producing your own shows and pitching your own ideas.

290
00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,200
Speaker 1: Why is that a desire? You're you know, you're a

291
00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:44,159
Speaker 1: successful lawyer, You're an advocate, and you have a voice

292
00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:48,720
Speaker 1: in social media. You've been recognized as a legal analyst

293
00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:50,359
Speaker 1: of seeing it. Why is it important for you to

294
00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:55,000
Speaker 1: produce your own projects? You know? I feel Sean, I've

295
00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:59,920
Speaker 1: always had lots of swords decided me and I told

296
00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:05,159
Speaker 1: those stories are different platforms via social media, contributed tons

297
00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:10,280
Speaker 1: of articles to online and print publications like Time, UH,

298
00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,719
Speaker 1: Motto dot com and CNN dot com. And I've just

299
00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:17,840
Speaker 1: I've been a writer pretty much throughout my career, and

300
00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:22,000
Speaker 1: TV is another medium through which I get to tell stories.

301
00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:25,240
Speaker 1: So I am excited about this new chapter. I get

302
00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:29,280
Speaker 1: to add producer title uh to my you know, long

303
00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:31,800
Speaker 1: list of things that I've been able to accomplish in

304
00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:34,520
Speaker 1: my life and and it this is another way that

305
00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:37,480
Speaker 1: I get to tell what I think are important stories.

306
00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,200
Speaker 1: What I think are stories that will not only informing

307
00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:44,040
Speaker 1: it and educate, but stories that will also inspire and

308
00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:47,159
Speaker 1: motivate it and and cause people to take action in

309
00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:51,920
Speaker 1: their own communities and in their own lives. As an advocate,

310
00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:55,159
Speaker 1: that's what my whole journey is about, is you know,

311
00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,879
Speaker 1: being the voice for the voice list, but also helping

312
00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:01,040
Speaker 1: other people find their voice. We wanna thank you for

313
00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,760
Speaker 1: calling my show. You are amazing. You know I'm a

314
00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:05,640
Speaker 1: big fan of yours and I would be seeing you

315
00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,120
Speaker 1: probably I would be seeing you before July twenty seven,

316
00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:12,159
Speaker 1: but definitely be there too. Uh. Wish you well keep winning, Okay,