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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolli and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale Lolli. He is the

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson, and it's a Friday here and we're getting

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Speaker 2: ready to head on down to beautiful Orlando.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, tomorrow's our travel day and then you get to

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Speaker 3: drive Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: Sunday, Monday, Tuesday Wednesday from ten to twelve each day

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Speaker 2: and we'll have some guests on and I'm.

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Speaker 3: Pretty psyched by talking order and yeah, goodttle sun, perfect

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Speaker 3: time of year and it's.

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Speaker 2: Going to be colder here, so that's never bad.

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Speaker 3: And unfortunately not unfortunately, I mean we're kind of in

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Speaker 3: an NFL lull right now. Yeah, I mean we've kind

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Speaker 3: of hit a little bit of a drive period. And

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Speaker 3: when I say that, it's like a two or three

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Speaker 3: day drives period because then everyone goes to Orlando and

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Speaker 3: I'm sure things were picking.

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Speaker 2: Up, all kinds of stuff will be talking down there

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Speaker 2: for sure. But yeah, I wanted to kick off the

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Speaker 2: show today, Matty by kind of doing our look at

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Speaker 2: the top twenty guys who we would take at twenty.

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Speaker 2: And we do this every year for new listeners. We

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Speaker 2: typically we'll do our own list, but I thought this year,

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Speaker 2: let's just do it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a combined list because I don't think

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Speaker 2: there's gonna be a lot of difference on there.

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Speaker 3: No, I mean, we can rank them over the next

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Speaker 3: week or whatever, but I mean, like I think we

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Speaker 3: should kind of. We could do it a lot of

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Speaker 3: different ways, you know, like one category might be would

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Speaker 3: you trade the twentieth pick for this guy today? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: And then there may be there's another category of maybe,

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Speaker 3: you know, let's see how it goes, you know, like

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Speaker 3: and I bet we get more than twenty if we

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Speaker 3: do it that way.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, no doubt.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: We're going to eliminate the quarterbacks, okay, because they're not

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Speaker 2: taking a first round quarterback and they won't be available

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Speaker 2: at twenty anyways.

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Speaker 3: However, then we only need sixteen names or whatever.

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Speaker 2: But still we still take twenty because if that gives

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Speaker 2: you the names for trade downs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because because I mean it's a moot point of course.

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Speaker 3: But would I trade the twentieth pick for Caleb Williams

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Speaker 3: right now?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, you know, so that's that's one of the numbers.

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Speaker 4: I'm realistic.

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Speaker 3: So what do we do about Marvin Harrison then Neighbors?

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Speaker 2: I mean, like, well, I think you put the receivers

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Speaker 2: in there, so let's not because because they're not they're

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Speaker 2: not in the quarterback market. Okay, that's that's the difference.

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Speaker 2: They're not they're not in the running back market.

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Speaker 3: They're not in the you know, they're not gonna end

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Speaker 3: up Joe Alt either. Yeah, but he's gonna be in

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Speaker 3: our top twenty, right, Okay, that's fine by me. I'm

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Speaker 4: So at one is it Marvin Harrison?

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Speaker 3: Should we just build the guys we're considering and then

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Speaker 3: rank them, you know what I mean, Like, well, we'll

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Speaker 3: talk about all these guys. Okay, I think he's probably

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Speaker 3: one for me. Yeah, I think.

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Speaker 2: I mean I think if if he were available to them, yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think he's a better prospect than any

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Speaker 3: of the tackles. Yeah, I think Neighbors would be two, okay,

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Speaker 3: because I think they're pretty close, to be honest with you.

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Speaker 3: So it's not like there's a shortage of receivers, but

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Speaker 3: they're different. They're different. But I'm just saying those two

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Speaker 3: are really high end prospects even compared to the time.

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Speaker 2: Now the question becomes is the next guy on the

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Speaker 2: board Romadunzier, is it JC Latham?

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Speaker 3: Is it Joe Ault? Yeah? I think those are the

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Speaker 3: three options, and I'm gonna value positions here too. Powers

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Speaker 3: don't know they're the answer that They're not gonna be

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Speaker 3: Penn State due those guys aren't bad. So okay, anyway,

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Speaker 3: I think I go Rome, but there's a gap here. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think Latham was your number one tackle. I'm trying

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Speaker 4: He may now they're very close.

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Speaker 2: The only different the difference between the two is that

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to factor that in too much. I mean,

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Speaker 3: Jonathan Ogen played garb er year, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: Like they'll figure it out. I think it's a conversation

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Speaker 3: of Rome versus Alt, which, of course isn't good to

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Speaker 3: matter in the end, right, you know, I can trade up.

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Speaker 2: To I think I would put All first, just because

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Speaker 2: that's a He's a true left tackle and there aren't

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Speaker 2: many of those in.

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Speaker 3: This draft on the planet.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, most of these guys in this draft are right tackles.

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Speaker 3: Okay, for the for the most part, I'm fine with that.

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Speaker 3: I think he's very safe too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And then I think Roe Madunzia is third with me. Again,

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Speaker 2: these are probably guys that the Steelers aren't going to

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Speaker 2: be able to get right, right, but if something were

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Speaker 2: to happen, we're one of those guys started falling down

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Speaker 2: to say twelve, thirteen, fourteen to fifteen.

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Speaker 4: Now you consider a trade, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Like, that's my third best player on the board and

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Speaker 3: we can get them at a discount.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Latham's finish.

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Speaker 3: I would say Latham is my vote for fit. Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Who else is even in the conversation? No run backs,

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Speaker 3: no quarterbacks. No. I think brock bowers name will be

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Speaker 3: on this list somewhere.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean if he was.

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Speaker 2: Somebody asked me that on social media. They I saw

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Speaker 2: if brock Bowers is available at twenty, do the Steelers

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Speaker 2: take him. I'm like, yeah, I think yes, yeah, because

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Speaker 2: he's just a weapon.

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Speaker 3: Yeah right, Yeah, he'd be on the field a lot. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: so I think he's in the conversation.

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Speaker 2: The question we had, like, so for the edges, they're

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Speaker 2: not taking an edge in the first round.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of tackles I would take before these edges. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean, if Flores Taylor is in this draft, I

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Speaker 3: would take that's different. These guys don't move the needle

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Speaker 3: enough to do that. All the corners i'd take before edges. Well,

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Speaker 3: Bowers is the only tight end. We're not doing quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: I don't think there's any running backs speaking for you,

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Speaker 3: but I don't think there's any guards.

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Speaker 4: Depends on what you consider. Barton called center.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, okay, but what it's called offensive linemen. There's

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Speaker 3: no linebackers for me. I agree edges might make the

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Speaker 3: top twenty, but not for a while.

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Speaker 4: See, I think we can get to twenty without putting

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Speaker 4: any edges in.

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Speaker 3: A good chance we might get to the Guidons and

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Speaker 3: Cintons and those type of dudes before we take a.

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Speaker 2: Because folks, no matter what teams say when they talk

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Speaker 2: about best player available. Ninety nine point nine percent of

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Speaker 2: the time, the best player available taken is if they

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Speaker 2: take a player and say it's the best he just

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Speaker 2: happened to be the best player available at a position

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Speaker 2: of need.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, and I'm sure every team does this a

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Speaker 3: little bit differently. But when you put a final number

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Speaker 3: grade on Dallas Turner, I mean really good player, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it might be higher than Tyler Guiden's. Okay, doesn't mean

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Speaker 3: you take him ahead of them, right, you know, I

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Speaker 4: Mean because the position of need is I mean, you're

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Speaker 3: What would Dallas Turner do here?

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Speaker 2: You know, It's like what happened with the you know

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Speaker 2: what used to be the Pro Football Focus draft simulator,

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Speaker 2: when the one time I just said, I noticed they

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Speaker 2: give you an A plus every time you take a quarterback.

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Speaker 2: So I took a quarterback and every round got eight

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Speaker 2: pluses all the way down across the and that's not

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Speaker 2: half of them.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's not realistic, right.

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Speaker 3: Right, right, not at all? Okay, So I think there's

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Speaker 3: some positions we can eliminate. Who's our consensus top tackle

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Speaker 3: on the board.

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Speaker 2: I mean, whether it's al or what you mean offense

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Speaker 2: for defensive No remaining offensive.

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Speaker 4: For me, it's for Waga.

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Speaker 3: I think mine was. I think he was three for

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Speaker 3: me as well. Yeah. So do we like him more

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Speaker 3: than Brian Thomas? I think the answers give you yes. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think if that where they like him more than

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Speaker 3: powers Johnson. Yes, I like him more than all the corners.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 3: And the defensive lineman. I'm not sure any defensive lineman

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Speaker 4: Our not not these defensive ones, right right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean I think they might draft on them, but

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Speaker 3: not in top twenty. Okay, I'm cool with that.

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Speaker 4: Okay, seven is where it gets.

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Speaker 3: I think it's the Washington Tackle.

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Speaker 2: I think so too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought we wouldn't fight on that. Yeah, Now,

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Speaker 3: are you were considering a corner?

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Speaker 4: See, That's what I was gonna ask you.

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Speaker 2: We're starting to get into that range where.

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Speaker 3: Just to pull back the curtain we do our triple takes,

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Speaker 3: where we do our top five, and I'm gonna write

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Speaker 3: Corner as soon as we're done recording here. So I'm

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Speaker 3: not even sure what my top five is. I've been

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Speaker 3: one of the reasons I didn't write him last night.

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Speaker 4: I've been going back and forth between two guys.

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Speaker 3: There's three in consideration for me, but we could even

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Speaker 3: talk through that. Would you take any of them ahead

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Speaker 3: of Oh, I would take the Penn State tackle here?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he's uh yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think he goes ahead of any corner Yeah, there

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Speaker 4: Okay, uh And now we're now we're into cornerbacks.

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Speaker 2: And I think for this for the Steelers specifically, I

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Speaker 2: think Quenna Mitchell.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's certainly in my consideration and.

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Speaker 4: I didn't rank him first. I may change yet tonight.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I mean we're doing these generically for the people. Take

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Speaker 3: not speak for the Steelers.

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Speaker 4: But I think he has more traits.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, then you think they will like him a lot?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Would you take him over brock Bowers? Yes, I think

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Speaker 3: I would take Bowers. Not a need, but I can

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Speaker 3: get a corner in day two. I don't need a

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Speaker 3: tight end at all though.

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Speaker 2: Right to take him, that would give you four drafted

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Speaker 2: tight ends on your roster, which is really rare. Would

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Speaker 2: you take in the last four years too?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 4: Right, it's a lot of drafts.

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Speaker 3: But they need I mean, I just think he lessens

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Speaker 3: their need for wide receiver a great deal. True, you

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Speaker 3: know you'd play exclusively two receivers if you had brock

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Speaker 3: I might take all three of those corners ahead of hours.

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Speaker 2: Again, we're probably talking about something that has no chances,

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Speaker 2: of course.

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Speaker 3: So what about powers Johnson versus corner, versus corner.

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Speaker 2: One, versus corner one. I think I think he goes

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Speaker 3: It didn't work out this year, but you can find centers. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean, just position value. What about memes?

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Speaker 2: I like the corners better than mimes.

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Speaker 3: I think our next three guys corners as we talk

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Speaker 3: two will be who are your two you're considering.

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Speaker 4: When you Mitchell and Terry and Arnold?

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Speaker 3: Okay, I still have Degene in that conversation.

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Speaker 2: won't be one for me.

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Speaker 3: I mean he might be two. So maybe our next

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Speaker 3: three are Mitchell, Arnold Dejene. I don't have a problem

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Speaker 3: with Okay, I think that's fair. Now, do we have

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Speaker 3: a Georgia War between mimes?

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Speaker 2: And Bowers are gonna type I'm writing these down for us, Okay?

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Speaker 2: Who is Ted Arry and Arnold?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? And Cooper Dejean was the third one.

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Speaker 2: I like Mems better than I.

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Speaker 3: Would think Mems ahead of Guidon war Bowers.

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Speaker 2: But would you take Jackson Powers Johnson ahead of those guys,

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Speaker 2: not ahead of Mems?

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Speaker 3: I see, I would, Okay.

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Speaker 2: now is where whereas I think Mems comes in and

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Speaker 2: probably has the city here.

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Speaker 3: They would be my top two available though, Powers Johnson

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Speaker 3: and Memes. Yeah, I can live with Powers Johnson ahead

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Speaker 3: of them. So how many names do we have there?

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Speaker 2: That's twelve?

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Speaker 3: Is that including Mems? Mims is thirteen, Mems is thirteen? Okay?

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Speaker 3: Are we missing any tackles because there's so many? Uh?

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Speaker 2: One, two, three, four, five?

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Speaker 3: That's six of Washington and Oregon State damp Penn State. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Now I think you start to consider Brian Thomas.

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Speaker 2: Brian Thomas is in this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he considered Guy.

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Speaker 2: I would take Brian Thomas ahead of Guidon.

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Speaker 3: I would too, Yeah, Okay, so he's up. Would you

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Speaker 3: take any of the edges over guydon No? No, the

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Speaker 3: edges are or the fourth corner. Maybe maybe who's that?

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Speaker 3: Off the top of my head Old Aid for me,

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Speaker 3: it would be.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of who I had him.

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Speaker 4: He things bounce around so much. You're looking at maybe, uh,

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Speaker 4: Nate Wiggins.

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Speaker 3: I think Wiggins was my four.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's definitely going to be my four Wiggins. Ver

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Speaker 3: Geiton versus Barton versus Fraser.

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Speaker 2: That's what you're talking about here now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we already put Bowers down, right, No we haven't.

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Speaker 3: I think you put I think Bowers goes here then, okay, okay, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I would definitely take him over all those guys.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, I would too.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think he's more special than them.

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Speaker 2: If if Brock Bowers were there, it's twenty Now you're

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Speaker 2: trading down.

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Speaker 4: Because somebody, somebody probably wants to come up and get him.

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Speaker 3: I would think I would think, you know, chiefs might want.

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Speaker 2: To Yeah, yeah, all right, so that's that's fifteen.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I think that now the names are Wiggins, Dallas, Turner.

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Speaker 3: I'd probably say, no, Geiton, Barton, do we agree Barton

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Speaker 3: over Fraser. I think he's gonna go ahead of him.

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Speaker 3: But that doesn't answer what we're doing. Yeah, the Steelers.

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Speaker 4: We're not taking Fraser at twenty.

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Speaker 3: Though, No, but most I mean the point now, I

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Speaker 3: don't think I'm thinking any these guys at twenty because.

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Speaker 2: Well, these would be guys you would trade back.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah yeah, like to me, so like, I don't

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Speaker 2: The way I look at this is Brian Thomas would

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Speaker 2: be the last player I would take it twenty.

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Speaker 3: I think that's correct. I would include Bowers.

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Speaker 4: Well, Bowers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so those first fifteen of the guys, I would

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Speaker 2: take it twenty if they were still there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: If they're not there, then you prefer to trade back.

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Speaker 3: I like, but don't love this group? Yeah yeah yeah,

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Speaker 3: and you will because three quarterbacks at least are gone.

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Speaker 2: I mean well through three quarterbacks, a couple of edge rushers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's the guys now probably will.

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Speaker 4: It might be four quarterbacks yeah yeah.

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Speaker 3: I would say there could be seven guys were not

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Speaker 3: interested already gone. Yeah, three edges and four quarterbacks.

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Speaker 4: If you're maybe a defensive tackle.

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Speaker 3: Defensive tackle, yeah, if things go well, Okay, so let

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Speaker 3: me throw out more names. Eighty Mitchell or whoever your

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Speaker 3: wide receiver five is. Mine was Mitchell, but I have

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Speaker 3: some concerns about them.

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Speaker 2: I think mine was Maconkey.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Giton, this seems like the Guiton spot.

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Speaker 2: I think, I think, yeah, I think Giton is there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, and then I would think we're gonna be

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Speaker 4: Now we're down to seventeen.

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Speaker 3: What about Barton versus Wiggins, Well.

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Speaker 2: We still have uh Wiggins there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I take I think I take Wiggins.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would take Wiggans over Barton, but I think

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Speaker 3: i'd take Barton over corner five, which, yeah, he's probably

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Speaker 3: kool aid at this point. So Barton verse wide receiver

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Speaker 2: I think I go Barton.

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Speaker 3: I think Barton's kind of standing out there. Yeah. I

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Speaker 3: mean the fact that we call them waders year five

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Speaker 3: and corner five isn't a reindorsement for it would be.

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Speaker 4: Now we get nineteen, we need two more.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we could throw two edge rushers in there.

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Speaker 2: But I don't think I'm not taking I don't think

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Speaker 2: there's any I think that hurts. I think it might

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Speaker 2: end up being the final two cornerbacks unless you unless

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Speaker 2: you want to stand on the table for a wide

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Speaker 2: receiver here, what.

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Speaker 3: About b yu tackle? Trying to think outside the box

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Speaker 3: a little, is there any of the Arizona tackle wouldn't

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Speaker 3: do it for me? Now he might be a guard,

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Speaker 3: He might be a guard. I think he probably is.

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Speaker 3: It seems early for Sumataia. Definitely not another tight end.

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Speaker 3: A lot of receivers are appealing, but there's so many,

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Speaker 3: so many out of just wait, I think kool A

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Speaker 4: And then twenty might be Zach Frasier.

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Speaker 2: That's what I was thinking too, based on need.

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Speaker 3: None other tackle? Huh. I just wondering if we're forgetting

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Speaker 3: a tackle.

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Speaker 2: I think if it came down to it and you're

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Speaker 2: in let's let's say you do make a trade down.

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Speaker 2: In a trade up, I think that that that second

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Speaker 2: staring there at Fraser in Suemataia, I think they take Fraser.

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Speaker 3: Let's say, think a receiver in round one. Yeah, and

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Speaker 3: those are the two. That's the conversation. Yeah, I probably

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Speaker 3: agree with you, you know, like I think the way

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Speaker 3: that we should phrase it is our most desired players. Like,

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Speaker 3: I'm not considering Fraser at twenty, right, But you don't

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Speaker 3: have to, right. I mean, if if you traded that,

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Speaker 3: if you had an offer that blew your socks off

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Speaker 3: and it took you down to twenty.

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Speaker 2: The question would be if, yeah, if I, if I

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Speaker 2: moved down to twenty nine, would I be comfortable taking

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Speaker 3: It probably would, I probably would.

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Speaker 2: That's about the neighborhood, like, because yeah, after those first

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Speaker 2: twenty four to twenty five picks, those next thirty or

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Speaker 2: forty guys might all have the same grade on him

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Speaker 2: or very similar grades.

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Speaker 3: And he's a starter and he's a starter. Yeah, yeah, okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's cool.

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Speaker 2: He's twenty then, huh Yeah, So what we came up

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Speaker 2: with Marvin Harrison, Malik, Neighbors, Joe Alt, Roma Dunzier, j C. Latham, Talisi, Fluaga,

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Speaker 2: Troy Fetanu, Oulu Fashanu, Fetano and Fashanu right next to

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Speaker 3: Yes, those three I think it could be in any

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they could go off, They could go off in

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Speaker 2: any Ord's just going to depend on what the team wants.

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Speaker 2: At nine, as Quinyam Mitchell ten is, Terry and Arnold eleven, Cooper,

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Speaker 2: Dejene Okay twelve, Jackson, Powers, Johnson thirteen, Amarius Mims fourteen,

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Speaker 2: Brian Thomas. See, I think that might that group right

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Speaker 2: there might.

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Speaker 3: Be i'ld say, where do we draw the line.

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Speaker 2: When we when we when we end up doing our

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Speaker 3: Thomas versus Mems versus Powers, Johnson. Yeah, that we have

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Speaker 3: had that conversation a lot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, right, right, So this is kind of the

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Speaker 2: sweet spot here that Dejean, Arnold, Powers, Johnson, Mems, Thomas. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't think. Yeah, I don't think Bowers is going

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Speaker 2: to be there. No, Geydon probably is. So I think

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Speaker 2: Wiggins probably is good chance. I think there's a good

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Speaker 2: chance Barton probably is.

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Speaker 3: See. That's what I kind of like about it is

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Speaker 3: those four do we have them I'm not sure if

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Speaker 3: we even have them all right in a row, but

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Speaker 3: they're all very close Jean Thomas, mimes Powers, Johnson. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: of our drafts, they're all there.

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Speaker 4: Those are the guys we're looking at.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And if you can go to twenty three and

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Speaker 3: let them decide for you. We're go to twenty four,

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Speaker 3: you know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's the beauty of this, is why you

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Speaker 2: do a list like this, and the see, of course,

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Speaker 2: at least they always they haven't previous years have done

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Speaker 2: a list like this, these twenty guys, and when you

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Speaker 2: you say, okay, we can move back six spots.

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Speaker 4: We don't want to trade back to two.

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Speaker 2: Maybe maybe we don't want to trade back to twenty

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Speaker 2: nine or thirty, or because you don't have any of

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Speaker 2: the edge rushers on here, maybe you.

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Speaker 3: Do, maybe you do right, all right, or maybe you

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Speaker 3: add four or five more names. Can we leave this

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Speaker 3: draft with two of them? Yeah, you know, like trade

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Speaker 3: back in one trade up and two you know, or

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Speaker 3: you get this list right where we have it now

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Speaker 3: and say we are going to get one of these players. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean unless someone offers us the craziest trade that

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Speaker 3: we can't say no to.

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Speaker 2: I mean, ideally, it come out of this with two

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Speaker 2: of these guys on this on your list of twenty,

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Speaker 2: and then you're golden.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yea, yeah, which isn't crazy. No, Fraser might

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Speaker 2: Know, which I think is kind of what happened when

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Speaker 2: they got Pat Frearmouth exactly exactly.

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Speaker 4: They wanted Najie Harris.

443
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Speaker 2: He was high list, and then the Friarmouth they still

444
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Speaker 2: had a first round grade on in the second roulldy see,

445
00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:04,520
Speaker 2: we gotta take him.

446
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Speaker 3: They knew Pitts was gone. Yeah, he was tight end

447
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,399
Speaker 3: two and there wasn't a clear tight end three. Nipping

448
00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,680
Speaker 3: on his heels. Yeah, no, I think that's a good

449
00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,960
Speaker 3: way of putting it. Okay, and then like every Byron

450
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Speaker 3: Murphy or Verse or quarter, Yeah, they're.

451
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Speaker 4: Not going to be interested in those guys. You want

452
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Speaker 4: those guys to.

453
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Speaker 3: Go, want anyone to go that is not on them.

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Speaker 4: We went like seven or eight of those guys to go.

455
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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe an odd receiver. Someone has to have worthy speed,

456
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Speaker 3: you know. Yeah, Okay, well, okay, fine, it doesn't hurt you.

457
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Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, let's get through a break. He is

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Speaker 2: the Matt Williams and I'm Dale Lolly. That was our

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Speaker 2: list of twenty. We update that as we get closer

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Speaker 2: to the draft. Here, we're going to take a break

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Speaker 2: right now, we'll be back with more right after this.

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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back. I'm Dale Lallie.

466
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Speaker 2: He is the Matt Williamson and Matt mel Kuiper has

467
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Speaker 2: updated his first round projection here.

468
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Speaker 4: Let's take a look at what Mel has his look.

469
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Speaker 3: At it yet they haven't clicked on it. But I

470
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Speaker 3: was listening to their first draft podcast with him in

471
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Speaker 3: Field Yates and it implied to me that he has

472
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Speaker 3: some goofy names at the end, not not goofy, but

473
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Speaker 3: I'll die for the box stuff, which I've told you

474
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Speaker 3: it's guys this before. I have a lot of respect

475
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Speaker 3: for Mel. I think I have every one of his

476
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Speaker 3: blue books he ever wrote since I was like eight

477
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Speaker 3: years old and he stopped doing it, you know, five

478
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Speaker 3: or ten years ago. But he hears things. Yeah, And

479
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Speaker 3: whenever somebody pops into Round one that we oh, I've

480
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,160
Speaker 3: never seen him there, it's because he's hearing things.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So he has at one, no surprise, Caleb Williams. Two,

482
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Speaker 2: he has Jaden Daniels that's becoming more and more chocky.

483
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Speaker 3: Are yeah, yeah, more and more.

484
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Speaker 2: The way this goes at three, he has Drake May

485
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Speaker 2: and this is one I want to dig into this

486
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Speaker 2: when we get down to the owners meetings and we'll

487
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Speaker 2: have somebody on from the Patriots.

488
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Speaker 4: I'll see them if we can get some people there, because.

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Speaker 2: I want to talk to them and see are they

490
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Speaker 2: in on the quarterback this year or is this are

491
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Speaker 2: for them?

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Speaker 3: It's hard to like three quarterbacks yeah and be like, oh,

493
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Speaker 3: we're just happy with whatever third one we get. It's

494
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Speaker 3: different if you're like the Vikings and you love Drake

495
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Speaker 3: May and you want to get there, you know what

496
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Speaker 3: I mean.

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Speaker 2: Right, So that's kind of like you could trade that

498
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Speaker 2: third pick.

499
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Speaker 3: For so much, for so much more than most years.

500
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Speaker 2: And if you're the if you're the Patriots and all

501
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:31,440
Speaker 2: of a sudden you can get a couple of first

502
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Speaker 2: round picks in this draft and maybe something next year. Yeah,

503
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Speaker 2: that's you're not winning this year. So and you're a

504
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Speaker 2: new head coach. Ye with the new gm R, you

505
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:44,920
Speaker 2: got a little yeah, you got a leash there.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the the big guys out of the building,

507
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 3: you know, I mean, it's times, everything's changing, and I

508
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 3: didn't think the Steelers would get Fields for as cheap

509
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Speaker 3: as they did. But I thought long and hard, if

510
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Speaker 3: I were the Patriots, why don't you trade for Fields

511
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Speaker 3: and Brissett and draft Marvin Harrison there, or trade it

512
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Speaker 3: to the best whatever, you know, a guy like that

513
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Speaker 3: and see see where the chips fall, and you're probably

514
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Speaker 3: gonna be picking the top five next year anyway. So

515
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Speaker 3: I know he has Drake May going there, and that

516
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Speaker 3: very well could happen, or Daniels or whatever. Of course.

517
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Speaker 3: I mean they may take a quarterback of three, but

518
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 3: that poor guy is falling into.

519
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Speaker 2: A really bad You're not You're not doing him any

520
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Speaker 2: favors at all. I mean one of their big signings

521
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Speaker 2: of the off seasons Austin Hooper.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you're throwing Juju and Hooper and I

523
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Speaker 3: mean that's that's that's what you got.

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Speaker 4: Hooper might beat Juju in a race.

525
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Speaker 3: Yeah right, I mean it's Hunter Henry. I mean those

526
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Speaker 3: guys are okay players. There's nothing that scares anybody on

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Speaker 3: that offense.

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Speaker 2: And a bad line and a bad line yeah, so

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Speaker 2: I I uh, if I were them, I would say, well,

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Speaker 2: Greg Greg bidart On.

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Speaker 3: From Okay, Yeah, from the Vikings would give you both

532
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Speaker 3: those first round picks and something else. Yeah, I'm listening. Yeah, right,

533
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Speaker 3: you can get to use them all on offense. And

534
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Speaker 3: maybe you don't go and Brian Thomas.

535
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Speaker 2: Or maybe you don't love Drake May and yet Jacoby Brissette,

536
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Speaker 2: you'll be you'll be competitive.

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Speaker 3: Fine for this Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah at four he has Marvin Harrison junior.

539
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they came out and said, hey, we'll give

540
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Speaker 3: us a call I for you and to come up to.

541
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Speaker 3: But they need to start getting stars.

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Speaker 2: But that's the one that you know. So if you're

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Speaker 2: calling the you know, the Cardinals, or you're not gonna

544
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Speaker 2: make that trade early, no, because somebody can still jump

545
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Speaker 2: ahead of you. Like you're pretty sure if you're if

546
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Speaker 2: you're one of these teams. We're in the quarterback market

547
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Speaker 2: that the first two teams in a draft are going quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but you're.

549
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Speaker 2: Not going to trade up the four unless you really

550
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Speaker 2: love JJ McCarthy.

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Speaker 3: Say maybe the Vikings love McCarthy.

552
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be the only way that you do that,

553
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Speaker 2: because somebody else can still leapfrog you and get ahead of.

554
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Speaker 3: You, right, I mean you would have to love four quarterbacks. Yeah,

555
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Speaker 3: those teams aren't gonna love four quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: The same thing at five, because I know when we

557
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Speaker 2: did our mock draft that's up now on Steelers dot Com.

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Speaker 4: You can go check that out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I had I had Minnesota trading up to four

560
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Speaker 2: to get the quarterback.

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Speaker 4: You had them trading up with the Chargers to get

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Speaker 4: the quarterback. The those would have.

563
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Speaker 2: To be deals that are done like the day of

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Speaker 2: the draft.

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Speaker 3: Like, you don't want to get stuck with Marvin Harrison there, right,

566
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Speaker 3: you know which, he's a phenomenal player, but you you

567
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Speaker 3: don't want to.

568
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Speaker 2: Hey, I just gave up four draft picks to come

569
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Speaker 2: up and get Marvin Harrison and I don't have a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, those are draft you're right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, unless you get the two.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so he is Cardinals taking Harrison, The Chargers take

573
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Speaker 2: Malik Neighbors. Okay, Yeah, the Giants take Adunzie. Yeah, I

574
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Speaker 2: think that's the move. There anything any chance they go

575
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Speaker 2: McCarthy in your opinion? I keep seeing that, Yeah, more

576
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Speaker 2: and more.

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Speaker 3: That's the only wrinkle. Yeah, I mean I can see

578
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Speaker 3: that being a possibility. They did so much on their

579
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Speaker 3: own line though, it's they need to find pass catchers.

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Speaker 2: At seven, the Titans take Joe Alt.

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Speaker 3: It's like the chuckiest pick.

582
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Speaker 2: Yeah, brock Bauer is still available. At eight, the Falcons

583
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 2: take Dallas Turner. Okay, I mean the Falcons will be

584
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 2: a trade out spot.

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Speaker 3: I think so too. I mean the Bears at nine

586
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 3: if a Doonsday's gone is a trade out spot for

587
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,120
Speaker 3: me in Atlanta. Almost being forced to take the first

588
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 3: defensive player when they're probably not the best player on

589
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 3: the board is a trade out spot because I mean,

590
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 3: not even through the Steelers' eyes, I would have four

591
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,719
Speaker 3: or five tackles ranked over him. Yeah, you know, just

592
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 3: pure grades.

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Speaker 4: At nine, the Bears take Verse.

594
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 3: Okay, it's okay, Yeah, I mean there's nothing wrong with it.

595
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 3: It's it's not real exciting.

596
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 2: At ten, the Jets take brock Bowers. See, I don't

597
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 2: think brock Bauers makes it past the Jets.

598
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 3: I don't either. I mean now that they that's making.

599
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,439
Speaker 2: More and more sense. They get Tyler Conklin. He is

600
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,880
Speaker 2: there's nothing special there at all about Tyler Knan.

601
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Speaker 3: Mike Williams on a one year deal and it to

602
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,679
Speaker 3: win it this year, and win this year. As I say,

603
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Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers is almost forty years old.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, at eleven, the Viking state JJ McCarthy.

605
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 3: Okay, I guess this was a no trader, I guess. Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: At twelve, the Broncos take Bo Nicks.

607
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 3: We both did that too. Yeah. Yeah, I think the

608
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 3: fit's there.

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Speaker 4: I mean it makes a ton of sense.

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Speaker 3: I mean, a perfect world. If this was Broncos Nation Radio,

611
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Speaker 3: I'd be like, I wonder if we could get Nicks

612
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Speaker 3: at twenty two. Yeah, I mean, but then, if you

613
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Speaker 3: love a quarterback, you take.

614
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Speaker 2: A course, you take a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: At thirteen, the Raiders take jac Latham. Yeah, so he

617
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:14,719
Speaker 2: break my heart a little bit, but he's got him

618
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Speaker 2: as his number two. Yeah. Yeah. At fourteen for Shawn

619
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Speaker 2: who goes to the Saints.

620
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Speaker 3: Okay, this is tackle neighborhood a little here.

621
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Speaker 4: Fifteen Quinna Mitchell goes to the Colts.

622
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Speaker 3: He has to look big enough to ride the ride,

623
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Speaker 3: and he certainly does. Yeah.

624
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Speaker 2: At sixteen, the Seahawks take Troy Fatanu.

625
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 3: Huh. I bet they play mc guard right away probably, yeah,

626
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 3: and go from there.

627
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 2: The Jaguars take Terry and Arnold at seventeen.

628
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,239
Speaker 3: They need a corner. Yeah, they could go a lot

629
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 3: of directions too.

630
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Speaker 2: At eighteen, he has the Bengals taking to Lasi ful Waga.

631
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Speaker 3: But I wonder if they do that now. I listened

632
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 3: to the podcast only one. He turned it in before.

633
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, the draft, which is good news for the Steelers.

634
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 2: Like if Fuaga fell to them at twenty, you sprint

635
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 2: to the board with it. He sprinted the podium that one.

636
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 3: Agreed. Yeah, I think they're gonna take Brian Thomas.

637
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 4: I think they are too.

638
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 3: He's you guy, you know, Chase Burrow. I know they

639
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 3: didn't play together. Higgins is a one year rental at most, right,

640
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 3: they live in eleven.

641
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 2: Well, there's nothing that says too that you don't draft

642
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 2: Brian Thomas and then trade Higgins on drafted for like

643
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 2: a second round.

644
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 3: Draft exactly, Yeah, and draft another or sign yeah back

645
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 3: Tyler Boyd or whatever too, right, I mean he would.

646
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna be a bangal. Yeah.

647
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 2: I think I think I'm warming up to that as well.

648
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 2: Nineteen the Rams take Byron Murphy.

649
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 4: That's that's who I had him taking to.

650
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, lost Daron don at twenty.

651
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 2: He has the Steelers taking Brian Thomas. Okay, Well, I

652
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 2: think if you might be able to flip flop those two. Yeah,

653
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 2: the Bengals Steelers picks based on what's transpired here.

654
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 3: I think that's probably how it would go.

655
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 2: And I would sign up right now to Tea if

656
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 2: you get.

657
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, boom done, Yeah, get about it.

658
00:29:58,160 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll take care, I'll take him, I'll take the

659
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 2: any of those tackles that have gone thus far.

660
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 3: Great, sign you up. Yeah, yeah, I on that.

661
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 4: At twenty one, the Dolphins take Graham Barton.

662
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 3: He would play somewhere in that line.

663
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, they would figure that out.

664
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 3: That's a real good pick for this. Yeah, like I

665
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 3: might take Barton over powers Johnson for the Dolphin.

666
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 2: For them, just because they have so many holes.

667
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 3: And they signed the Titans center. Yeah, you know.

668
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 2: Twenty two the Eagles take Nate Wiggins.

669
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 3: That's an Eagles type pick too. Yeah, they're older corner.

670
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 2: Twenty three Minnesota with their second pick, they may not

671
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 2: have this picure. Yeah, they take Cooper Dejen Wow.

672
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, I mean I'm sure coach flora As we

673
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 3: not unhappy with that.

674
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 2: You know. Twenty four the Cowboys take Tyler Geydon. I

675
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 2: think that to me, even though I like Mims better.

676
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 2: Jerry Jones is in Oklahoma.

677
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,719
Speaker 3: I would say that that to me, I forget who

678
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 3: I was listened to. Oh it was Dane saying, Cowboys

679
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 3: love Geydon. They don't, you know. They can move Tyler

680
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 3: Smith around if they want, but why bother? He's a

681
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 3: stud guard. Yeah. I also think that's a potential Powers

682
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 3: Johnson landing spot too, you know, but I think that's

683
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 3: gonna be an.

684
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 2: All I think, all things considered, they take the Oklahoma guy.

685
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna end up there.

686
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 2: At twenty five, the Packers take Lay two, the outside linebacker.

687
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 3: I mean, this is a lot like van Ness, and

688
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 3: you know they use first round backs on defense.

689
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 2: Twenty six the Buccaneers take Xavier Worthy.

690
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 3: They're older receiver.

691
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 2: That would be one too. If the Buccaneers take Worthy,

692
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 2: because remember they took Palmer last year.

693
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 3: Yeah from Nebraska. Yea, and he did some he.

694
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 4: Flashed one, you know.

695
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, So then if that happens, I'm on the phone

696
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 2: with Tampa Bay saying, what will take you to get

697
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 2: Goblin off you?

698
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 3: That's what Mel said. He said their receivers are not young,

699
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 3: they're not burners. I mean, he's a much different style

700
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 3: and God only is one year on his left phones deal, right,

701
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 3: So maybe he's not long for Tampa.

702
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that would be something I would discuss with them, Like.

703
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 3: Okay, if it's not him, I mean, it could be

704
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 3: the other Texas guy, it could be Franklin, it could

705
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 3: be I mean, there's a lot of mconchy. You know.

706
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 2: At twenty seven, the Cardinals take Chop Robinson.

707
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 3: Okay, And what Mel said in his podcast was what

708
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 3: hurt me most about my mock is I think Chop

709
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 3: Robinson is going to be a top twenty pick, and

710
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 3: I just couldn't find a spot for That's.

711
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 4: Part of the problem in this draft.

712
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, which would be great for this Stealers if he's

713
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 3: a top twenty pick, that'd be one I think in

714
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 3: our mock draft.

715
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 2: I'm working my way through this thing, and I'm like,

716
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 2: I can't find a spot for Terry and Arnold. Like

717
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 2: if Terry Arnold, yeah, slipping down. I'm like, but these

718
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 2: big guys are gonna go. You know, all these offensive

719
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 2: linemen are probably going to go somewhere up here.

720
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 3: I've noticed it with the three of us doing these

721
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 3: mocks that when you look at the other two that

722
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 3: you didn't do for the first time, like how Arnold's

723
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 3: not going to get that far, but everyone's looking at

724
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 3: mind doing the same thing. Like top Robinson doesn't get

725
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 3: to the Ravens. Yeah, I mean it's and you're right,

726
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 3: it probably don won't be you know right.

727
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 2: It's twenty eight, Buffalo takes TJ.

728
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 4: Tampa.

729
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 2: There's one of this.

730
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 3: That was one of his names. He said, he said,

731
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 3: I think this guy is going to be a first

732
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 3: round pick and the fifth corner off.

733
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 2: He's got the size, he's got speed, he's you know,

734
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 2: he's tough.

735
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 3: No one seems to be talking about him, but yeah,

736
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 3: that was one of them. Uh.

737
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 2: Twenty nine he has the Lions taking Xavier Lagett mm hmm.

738
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 3: Again, could be wide receiver five.

739
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 2: A big wide receiver ran a four to three nine.

740
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 3: Tough guy. I mean Detroit likes take the top off guy.

741
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 4: That would be a little strange because they've got.

742
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 3: Wouldn't be a ring endorsement for James and William.

743
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 2: No, Like, yeah, if if they do that, like what

744
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 2: are they doing with James. He's already heading into year three.

745
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's not done much. Yeah, he hasn't on

746
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 3: the field much.

747
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 2: Uh. At thirty, the Ravens take Amarius Mims.

748
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 3: Wow, I don't think he gets the third.

749
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 2: I don't think he gets to thirty either, but I

750
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 2: don't see him getting past Baltimore.

751
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 4: If he done, they.

752
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 3: Would run a podium for that. Uh wow, I say

753
00:33:58,560 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 3: there's a couple of names I think here at the end.

754
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 4: Thirty one is a shocker. Yeah, it's thirty one.

755
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 2: He is San Francisco taking Roger Rosengarten, the offensive tackle

756
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:12,720
Speaker 2: from Washington. I can't get past with him the National

757
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 2: Championship game where Michigan guys were just running past him.

758
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 2: Willy nilly.

759
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm sure he's gaining steam or.

760
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 2: He's athletic, there's no doubt about that.

761
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 3: The right tackle. Yeah, like I consider him the second round.

762
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 4: I wouldn't.

763
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 3: I'm not.

764
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,439
Speaker 2: I don't like him. I don't like him at all.

765
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 3: But Mel's here and something. I mean, it doesn't mean

766
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 3: it's a good pick, no means, but yeah.

767
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 2: I mean their problem is Trent Williams is thirty six?

768
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 2: How much longer you got to play? Yeah, and you're

769
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 2: you're probably gonna end up picking down in this part

770
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 2: of part of the draft again next year.

771
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.

772
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 4: At thirty two, the Chiefs take of Donnie Mitchell.

773
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 3: Okay, I could see that too, But they're in pretty

774
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 3: decent shape of receiver. Now, yeah, Mark's Browns on a

775
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,720
Speaker 3: one year deal, but I could see them taking a tackle.

776
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, but who there's nobody unless you want

777
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 2: to take a chance on Suema Taie and yeah you

778
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 2: probably have. Donnie Mitchell is a higher prospect than su him.

779
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 3: Tie helps you win the Super Bowl more this year

780
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 3: than does Yeah, maybe Rosengarden if they think he's a

781
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 3: first round pick, I don't think he's.

782
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:15,919
Speaker 2: I don't think he is either.

783
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 3: And Mel even said something along lines of I just

784
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 3: wanted to plant that out there because I know a

785
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 3: lot of Yeah, he does that all the time, you know,

786
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 3: like I want to be the first one to get

787
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 3: that in print. Okay, okay, so when he goes.

788
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 4: I'll believe that one when I see it.

789
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, No, there's a lot of tackles I like

790
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 3: better than him. But he wouldn't break my heart if

791
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 3: he went between the two Steeler picks. Oh no, you

792
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 3: know that would be fine. Yeah, especially if you went

793
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 3: tackle early. Yeah, I like that. Yeah, that's my name though. Yeah,

794
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 3: Tampa was the one that I had never seen before,

795
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 3: and I can see why, Like I've never heard anything

796
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:50,879
Speaker 3: negative about the guy.

797
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 4: No, he's huge, he's hero, he's fast.

798
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, there's there's plenty of like.

799
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 3: There's plinny like well coached team, you know, like I

800
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 3: think there's he's gonna go in the top forty probably.

801
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, he might be my He never makes

802
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 2: it to our second round pick I know that.

803
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 3: Never We've never even brought his name up.

804
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,919
Speaker 2: Well maybe early in the process maybe, I think early

805
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 2: when we first started doing our first couple of walks,

806
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 2: he was there and then all of a sudden, he

807
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 2: just starts inching up.

808
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 4: So he's a guy that maybe does.

809
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 3: It's funny there's like fifteen names that almost have no

810
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 3: chance of being on our team that we might even like,

811
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 3: yeah that are can't take him around one, not take

812
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 3: I never get the round two, you know, unless you

813
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,760
Speaker 3: they're trading around weirdness, you know. Yeah, but he's definitely

814
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 3: one of those.

815
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 2: Absolutely, let's get to another break. He is the Matt Williamson.

816
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 2: I'm Dale Lolli And earlier this week, we promise you

817
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 2: that that interview with a new Steelers punter, Cameron Johnston.

818
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 2: We'll get to that when we return right after this.

819
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821
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822
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824
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Speaker 2: lot of people to run out and get these jerseys,

834
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 2: you might want who knows a Colin or Cameron Johnston.

835
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 2: I don't want to call them Colin Johnson. That's that's

836
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 2: a dude.

837
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 3: That's somebody.

838
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 4: That's somebody.

839
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 2: Cameron Johnston jersey. He wore number one in Philadelphia. Well

840
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 2: he's not gonna wear that one here, but he wore

841
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 2: number eleven the last three seasons so he could take

842
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 2: over Chase Claypool's old number. Take the Stink, Take the

843
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 2: Stink Off of that one. Yeah.

844
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, Claypoole yielded a nice result in the end.

845
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 4: Yeah nice good rookie year, rookie year.

846
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great that he's still he's still available in

847
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:06,879
Speaker 2: free agency, like it says a lot.

848
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean people are fed up with his routine.

849
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so, uh but I got I got the

850
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 2: chance to sit down, very cool catch up with Cameron

851
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:15,919
Speaker 2: Johnston a little bit earlier this week.

852
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 4: Let's hear what he had to say.

853
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 2: You've been in the league for a while then, so

854
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 2: what what a track you do to come in.

855
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 3: Here, sir?

856
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 2: That's right?

857
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean I think to be able to

858
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 5: play in this in the actually North, going to Ohio State,

859
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 5: watching all the games on TV, and then it was

860
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 5: like to be able to play in this, I mean

861
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 5: massive and then just watch from Columbus, Ohio. So if

862
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 5: you get back up north again too, I mean we

863
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 5: wanted to be here so well for you, worked out,

864
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 5: worked an incredible So that's.

865
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 4: Where you make your home out all your round.

866
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 5: Uh yeah, White family's there, okay, yeah, with little off

867
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 5: season stuff there. So but now we can't wait to

868
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:52,879
Speaker 5: move here.

869
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 2: So great, So is it making you've been kicking out

870
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 2: for a while, but just started out playing Australia rules it.

871
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 4: How would how would that transition?

872
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 2: How did that come around?

873
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 5: So I did a program called Potic Australia. So a

874
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 5: lot of the punners in college from that now. So

875
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 5: I did that when I was twenty one and then

876
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 5: got to offer from a higher state, so I was

877
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 5: able to go there for four years and lovely the

878
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 5: moment of that and then being in the NFL ever since.

879
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 5: But yeah, Nathan Chapman, the coach there, he did an

880
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 5: amazing job kind of coaching the guys up and then

881
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 5: getting them over here.

882
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,720
Speaker 2: So what is it about that that Australia or football

883
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,800
Speaker 2: that translates to seeing a lot of Australian punters Now.

884
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,439
Speaker 5: I'd say that just punning, like the way you pass

885
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 5: the ball and the sport is by punning it. So

886
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 5: the transition itself, especially as the college game, works really

887
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 5: really well because of the role at and the brand,

888
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 5: and now it's with more and more guys starting to

889
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 5: transition onto the NFL too. So it's just a skill

890
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 5: set you learn from such a young age that's you

891
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 5: could transfer that technique into the punning over here.

892
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, I assume you've already mete with Danny Smith. He's

893
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 2: a ball of energy, you think, I mean, is that

894
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 2: just kind of a naturally special teams coach thing? I

895
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 2: mean have you seen that?

896
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,919
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're all yeah, Yeah, he's incredible and I can't

897
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 5: wait to play for him. I spoke to Jordan Berry

898
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 5: who's played here, and he absolutely loves him as well.

899
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 5: Uh yeah, to be able to play for him, it's

900
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 5: going to be incredible.

901
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 2: In terms of the Obviously he kicked in Philadelphia, kicked

902
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 2: at Ohio State. Weather's not an issue for you, ay soon?

903
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,359
Speaker 5: No, Yeah, yeah, we played played in Philly for three years,

904
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 5: played at High State for four years. So yeah, we've

905
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 5: seen seen all the way that you can have in

906
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 5: those places. So yeah, I mean it will be, it'll be,

907
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:37,879
Speaker 5: It'll be good.

908
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 2: So that was a new Steelers punter, Carameron Johnson is

909
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 2: as you heard there, he's he's kicked in weather.

910
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:45,360
Speaker 3: That was the thing that stuck with me. Yeah, in

911
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 3: the accent, And.

912
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 4: Spoke to Jordan Berry there.

913
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 2: You know, there are buds at you know they about

914
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 2: joining the Steelers.

915
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, some insider information there too. Yeah, supposed to be

916
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 3: a punter in Pittsford.

917
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, how that's going to be for him?

918
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 2: And uh, I mean he's kicked the Super Bowls.

919
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you're spending money on a quality starter puffer,

920
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 3: you know, no more questions about it.

921
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 2: To me, Yeah, that makes more sense than than drafting

922
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 2: one and hoping, like a lot of people were, you know,

923
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 2: in Matta's area became available, Steelers need to sign him.

924
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 2: What I'm like, why you don't know if he can

925
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 2: kick in the NFL? And he's like drafting a guy

926
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 2: he's no different than Presley Harvim was coming out a

927
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 2: couple of years ago. They were both the punter of

928
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 2: the year. In the difference is is area kicked the

929
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 2: San Diego State?

930
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 4: How much weather did he kick in?

931
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 3: And we saw how that dealt with Harvey? Yeah, right, No,

932
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 3: in this case, I think you want the bird in

933
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 3: the hand. You know.

934
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:40,879
Speaker 4: You know what this guy is me A solid.

935
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:44,720
Speaker 3: Punter that's been around the block. That's I've seen wind, rain, snow,

936
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 3: et cetera. And it's fine, you know, and you know

937
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:47,760
Speaker 3: what you're getting.

938
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 2: I think and he played Australian rules football growing up.

939
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 3: I think he changed over when he was like eighteen.

940
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 3: I think he's a pretty good athlete.

941
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 2: Yeah. So he's a good athlete and he's not he's

942
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 2: not the biggest guy. Yeah, but he's tackled people before, yes, before,

943
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 2: and maybe he catches a you know, a fake punt

944
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:08,800
Speaker 2: type of situation or something.

945
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 3: You know, he's not going to embarrass himself out there

946
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 3: with that stuff. HARVD wasn't a very good athlete, come

947
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 3: to think of it. He wasn't fast, you know, or

948
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 3: you know, real fleet of foot, but he could boom it,

949
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 3: but wasn't a real athletic guy.

950
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is this is a guy who is athletic

951
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 2: and again his can take some of those things that

952
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,439
Speaker 2: he learned in the Australian rules football and and put

953
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 2: that to play here in the end. Again, if it's

954
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 2: a bad snap or something something happens there at these

955
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,479
Speaker 2: guys can catch the ball and still get a punt

956
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 2: off and you know he's done that.

957
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 3: Over his head and can adjust to or maybe he

958
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 3: can throw a pass if there's a you know, again,

959
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 3: some of the fake stuff and being a holder is

960
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 3: not as easy as you think either from a hand

961
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,919
Speaker 3: eye coordination and being consistent with it. And he screw

962
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 3: up once. Everyone hates you you know, get screw up

963
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:51,399
Speaker 3: ever zero.

964
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I think that's a good ad. And you know, again,

965
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 2: he's as he said, his you know, his his wife

966
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:04,399
Speaker 2: is from Columbus, right, he's watched the AFC North games. Yeah,

967
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 2: constantly since he's been in the country. Because that's you know,

968
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 2: when you're in Columbus, you're two hours you're basically an hour,

969
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 2: an hour and a half from from Cincinnati, an hour

970
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 2: and a half from Cleveland, in two hours from Pittsburgh. Yeah,

971
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 2: that's what you're saying. You're watching AFC North every Sunday.

972
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 3: And I'm sure that factored in. Like, Hey, my wife

973
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 3: and I don't think kids or not. I can go

974
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 3: home and see the grandparents or spend a week there

975
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 3: or whatever.

976
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 4: The grandparents can come here and.

977
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 3: Come here and spend as long as they want whatever.

978
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,280
Speaker 3: You're right. So it's nice to be close to homes,

979
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 3: nice to have big game experience as well, and kicking weather.

980
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think he'll be like that. I think

981
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 2: he'll be a nice addition. It's it's kind of an

982
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 2: under the radar thing, but for as much as the

983
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 2: Steelers like to play field position, in that field position game,

984
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 2: that's very critical.

985
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 3: I mean it had been if they had him last year,

986
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 3: things have been a little different. Yeah, there's no doubt

987
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 3: in my mind about that.

988
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 2: They might have pulled out another game that they you know,

989
00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 2: because I don't know what it was, but as soon

990
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,280
Speaker 2: as Presley Harvan was kicking from his own end zone

991
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 2: would be the time that he would hit one that

992
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 2: would go. It would go forty It would go forty

993
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 2: yards by forty yards. This is when you're in your

994
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 2: own end zone. That's the one time that you can

995
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 2: just boom it. Yeah, you get one hundred yards of

996
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 2: a field to work, kick it as far as you can.

997
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 3: That's his specialty. Yeah, you know, you would think just

998
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:22,720
Speaker 3: let a rip, get the driver out here.

999
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 2: And in those situations, more often than not, those are

1000
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,800
Speaker 2: the ones he'd kind of hit badly.

1001
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 3: I wonder if it's mental too, you know, like that's

1002
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 3: starting to get through weather. I remember at enough time,

1003
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 3: good time weather. Confidence. I don't know. I mean, I

1004
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 3: know very little about punting except for it's a lot

1005
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 3: of it's above the above the neck.

1006
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like golf.

1007
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's the swing is similar, just like placekicking.

1008
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 2: You know, those guys are finally tuned to do what

1009
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 2: they got to do and.

1010
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 3: You know Nicet Special Teams upgrade there. Yeah, I'll take it.

1011
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, that's going to do it for our number one, Matt.

1012
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 2: Matt and I will be back with our number two

1013
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 2: of the drive right after this. You're listening to Steelers

1014
00:44:58,560 --> 00:44:59,120
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