1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,920 Speaker 1: The bullpen doesn't give you a choice, Like you show 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: up every day and you're going to be in there, 3 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: whether you want to be or not, whether your body 4 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: wants to be, whether you feel like you're in a 5 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:09,559 Speaker 1: good place mentally, whatever it is, you gotta go get out. 6 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 2: Eric Neander joining us right now. Eric, we appreciate the time. 7 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 2: Great to have you and you tell us how impressive 8 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 2: the arms look right now? And can't love the hat too, 9 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 2: by the. 10 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 3: Way, function over aesthetics here or ball. 11 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 4: Hooty and fluffy hat with the old school raised logo 12 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 4: on top. I mean we talked about Dana Brown styling. 13 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 4: He might be taking it for the Florida old Florida vibe. 14 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:42,919 Speaker 5: He's got it right there. 15 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 4: This is my salesman, looking for jobs, looking for jobs, 16 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 4: especially close to the home. 17 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 6: How's the staff? 18 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well, before we got to the awesome bucket hat, 19 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 2: which I'm sure you can get online somewhere, how is 20 00:00:58,160 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 2: the staff looking? 21 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 7: Because you know, we asked to cast about this as well. 22 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 2: I mean, guys that you know had some longer term 23 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,759 Speaker 2: injuries and it seems like everything's coming together where I mean, 24 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 2: are you gonna potentially have a six man rotation if 25 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 2: everyone's good to go for the season. 26 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're so far, so good, and we've we've had 27 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 3: some staffs in camp. We can go back to twenty 28 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 3: three that we were really excited about, and we never 29 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 3: saw the five take one turn together. So we're being 30 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 3: cautious here. Love our numbers, love what we seeen Adam McClanahan. Yesterday, 31 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 3: Rass was going back to the rotation, you know, like 32 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,479 Speaker 3: zacly Tells, like the forgotten man in this you know 33 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 3: who's the strike thrower. Has proven to be a really 34 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 3: good starter himself the last year and a half. Just 35 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 3: a really good group, and we'll give it time. I 36 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 3: don't think we're gonna go six man. I think just 37 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 3: with Cashy going through with Kyle Snyder, I think just 38 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 3: going seven man pen with the way we got to 39 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 3: manage mac Rass and the early going, probably not where 40 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 3: we go, but we're a few weeks away from good 41 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 3: health to having to make all those determinations. 42 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 8: What about offense, Yeah? 43 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 5: What about offensively? 44 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 8: Yeah? 45 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 4: I mean because you know there are names Yandi, Yeah, 46 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 4: Brandon Wowe obviously, Junior, Kevinara. There's names, But then you see, 47 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 4: like me and some other the young guys that are 48 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 4: starting to look like they're coming in. 49 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 5: How do you score runs that? 50 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,959 Speaker 8: As we ask, what do you say? 51 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:22,239 Speaker 6: Yeah? 52 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 3: You know we I last year, I think the last 53 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 3: two years we've seen. We've seen a couple of things. 54 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 3: Twenty three we saw. I think, what could happen if 55 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 3: a group clicks and everybody starts feeling it together and 56 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 3: as that snowball builds, you know, you're up at eight 57 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 3: hundred runs and a lot went our way in twenty three. 58 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 3: Last year we lived. I think the other extreme of that. 59 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 3: I think realistically, our expectations are that probably our pitching 60 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 3: staff is going to be what drives the competitiness of 61 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 3: this group. Our starters are bullpen the position player side, 62 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 3: we felt like our path to getting better offensively was 63 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 3: the junior Cameron Arow, Jonathan Aronda down the stretch, Curtis 64 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 3: me who this camp looks the way you know that's 65 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 3: coming together for him right A few years younger player. 66 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 8: I think he's in a really good spot. 67 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 3: We're counting on some of those guys taking a step 68 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 3: forward Yondy Diaz, returning Brandon law with they provide and 69 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 3: have for. 70 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:15,119 Speaker 8: Some time and then free agency. Danny Jansen, Huss and Kim. 71 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:21,519 Speaker 3: Last year, our offensive premium defensive positions was pretty well underwater, 72 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 3: you know, And and we thought our best path to 73 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 3: improving this club was likely going to be the essential 74 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 3: to some young guys on the corners of the field 75 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 3: and then up the middle. If we could, you know, 76 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 3: bring in a little more offense without losing our kind 77 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 3: of defensive identity, that'd be the way to go. And 78 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 3: I think Jansen behind the plate, he's been great nearly going. 79 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 3: He's healthy, that should give us a lyft Huss and 80 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 3: Kim once he's healthy, she give us a little bit 81 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 3: more up the middle. Johnny Delucn center field. We're believers 82 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 3: in Johnny and just the athlete continuing to. 83 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 8: Get better at his mental makeup. 84 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 5: On cars, it's just a j. 85 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 8: That's it. That's him. 86 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 3: So, you know, if we can, if we can get 87 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 3: a little bit stronger up the middle and not be juggernauts, 88 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 3: but just to have you know, more competitive bats up 89 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 3: the middle without giving back defense. Those guys in the 90 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 3: corners taking a step forward, I think we're going to 91 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 3: be in a place that will be competitive and we'll 92 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 3: see where goes. 93 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 8: Josh Loby and healthy against a huge two. 94 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 9: Talk a little bit about I know you're talking about 95 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 9: players here, let's shift gears to the new ballpark. We've 96 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 9: had a couple of conversations about that already, but I'm 97 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 9: intrigued to hear what you think about it, the new 98 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 9: amenities they have over there as well, and what are 99 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 9: you hearing from the players point of view? And you know, 100 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 9: there's a lot of obstacles, whether you know where everybody's 101 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 9: going to stay. So talk a little bit about, you know, 102 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 9: the whole organization going there, and you know the stadium 103 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 9: you know fell apart as we. 104 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 3: Know, yeah, yeah, and unfortunate, and you keep it in 105 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 3: perspective that the two storms, that's a lot for this 106 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 3: area to go through. Our players have been wonderful, absolutely 107 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 3: wonderful understanding support of this offseason. 108 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 8: They are patient as we were trying to figure. 109 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 3: Out what we were going to do, uh, you know, 110 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 3: how we were going to go about this season. Thankfully, 111 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 3: the Yankees' house Steinbrenner, they were great to give us 112 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 3: an early okay to get in there to start planning 113 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 3: about it. You know, look, it's a chance to play baseball. 114 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 3: Keep in perspective, it's a really nice facility. I don't 115 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 3: know if you guys have been up there yet, And yeah, 116 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 3: see it's uh, it's not a bad place. If there 117 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 3: are rain delays, there are worse places to spend them 118 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 3: than that clubhouse. 119 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 8: You know. 120 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 3: As it is, so uh, we just got to make 121 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 3: the most of it. You know, it is, it is 122 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 3: what it is. 123 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 8: We have expectations for the competitiveness of this group that 124 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 8: are that are high. 125 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 3: Want to get back to where we were the five 126 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 3: years prior to last year, and don't want this facility 127 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 3: to be a reason we can't get there. And I 128 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 3: think this group, the guys who brought in the guys 129 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 3: we have, they recognize that. Just trying to galvanize this 130 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 3: group around our circumstances. And so far in camp, the 131 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 3: energy has been great, the work's been great, and I 132 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 3: haven't heard a single complaint. How you guys are talking 133 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 3: to players, maybe they have a. 134 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 8: Clue, but they've been there. Actually they're wonderful. 135 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 3: Everything's been good, and you know, the players returning last 136 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 3: year was a disappointment in many respects. And I think 137 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 3: to get out there, Like I said, it doesn't really 138 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 3: matter where we're going to play. We just got to 139 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 3: go play and as long as we have a chance 140 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 3: to compete, we'll be okay. And it's so far, so good. 141 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 5: When is Kim back. 142 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 3: Working through it, going through the shoulder progression now hittings 143 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 3: as you'd expect with the throwing, shoulder much further along 144 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 3: than the throwing. A chance to see him sometime in May, 145 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 3: but really it's a day by day project progression on 146 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 3: the throwing, and want to want to take care of him, 147 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 3: want to do it right. You know, it's a it's 148 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 3: a two year deal. You know, he has the you know, 149 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 3: the opt in opt out decision after this year. You know, 150 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 3: we're gonna we're going to make sure we take care 151 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 3: of him and do it right. And but the hope 152 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 3: is sometime you know, middle of May, somewhere in there, 153 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 3: give or take. It really depends on, you know, the 154 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 3: shortstop part of it's obviously going to take longer. Maybe 155 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 3: he can fit in through the progression, not playing short 156 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 3: helping out of second elsewhere sooner, but uh, somewhere in 157 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 3: that mid May. You know, maybe it leaks into June 158 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 3: as we go. But he's doing all so far and 159 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 3: should be a big lift for us. 160 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 4: Speaking of shoulders, Junior, Camonaro. He had one of the 161 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 4: most epic home runs that we have ever seen. Were 162 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:10,679 Speaker 4: you worried that he was going to hurt his shoulder 163 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 4: when he bat flipped the ball the bat to the moon? 164 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 5: I mean that was was Have you ever seen a 165 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 5: crazy year? 166 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 4: I mean, he high five the concession stand workers, he 167 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 4: stopped and made barbecue at second base. 168 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 8: And then he you know, I when he hit it. 169 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 3: I watched the clip no less than five times trying 170 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 3: to figure out where the ball landed. And I kept 171 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 3: playing it back from the time the ball hit and 172 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 3: came down back to the pitch that over and over, 173 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 3: and I realized the clip was like two minutes long, 174 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 3: and then I watched the rest of it. Yeah, I'm 175 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 3: midding six seconds the batlands, you know, at two minutes 176 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 3: and eighteen seconds, he's crossed at home plate. You know, 177 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 3: it was it was something, but I you know, Junior, 178 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 3: it was important for us to get him up last 179 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 3: year to make sure and not just for a little bit, 180 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 3: but have enough time to take feedback into the offseason 181 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 3: about what the big leagues are about. 182 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 8: He's twenty one. 183 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 3: He has all the expectations in the world on him. 184 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 3: He has them on himself. He believes in himself, but 185 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 3: you got to live it right. You need real feedback, 186 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 3: I think to make this offseason purposeful, and he got 187 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 3: that last year. He went in this offseason where a 188 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 3: lot of it was about establishing work ethic, establishing routines, 189 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 3: not just for twenty twenty five, but if you want 190 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 3: to play in the big leagues for ten fifteen years, 191 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 3: taking care of yourself and putting the work. 192 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 8: It's now right and it's building those habits. He did 193 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 8: a great job of that. 194 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 3: Albert Pooles puts a little pressure on a play winner ball. 195 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 3: It's hard to say no to that great mentor that 196 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 3: Albert was to him. For him to get that positive 197 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 3: feedback to the work he put in, just that winner 198 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 3: was probably the best thing that could have happened for him, 199 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 3: from building those relationships with Albert, having that moment to 200 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 3: see the work he put in payoff that quickly. 201 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 8: We've seen him camp. You know, there's a lot of 202 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 8: days where he's the first one here. 203 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 3: He's getting in the weight room early, doing all the 204 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 3: things that when you have someone that talented, you want 205 00:08:57,720 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 3: to see that work ethic behind the scenes. 206 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 8: Match seen that. 207 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 3: We've seen that maturity and you want to temper expectations 208 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 3: for him. But he's a good one at the same time, and. 209 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 5: We're going to get him on. 210 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 4: Right after his home run, he wanted to know why 211 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 4: you guys wouldnt let him play in the Caribbean World Series. 212 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,839 Speaker 8: He's not wrong, he's not wrong. He hopefully he's got 213 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 8: a few more at him. 214 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 5: Okay, for sure, especially in Tampa. 215 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 4: There you go exactly right, exactly, Yandi, Diaz's kind of 216 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 4: become a leader of your team. Had some interesting comments 217 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 4: not long ago. Any thoughts on what he said. Because 218 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 4: a lot of guys come and go through the race organization, 219 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 4: you guys do a great job developing guys. 220 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 5: You know, you're in the situation you're in as the race, 221 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:36,959 Speaker 5: any thoughts on what he said. 222 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 4: I mean, from a players side, it's nice to your 223 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 4: players say this, yeah, But at the same time, I'm 224 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 4: sure from a president of baseball you're like, oh, man. 225 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 8: I wish you know, I don't. 226 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 3: I don't know anyone wants to say anything about anybody. 227 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 3: I'm kind of they it's up to you. You know, 228 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 3: you take what comes with it and whatever that might be. 229 00:09:55,800 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 3: That's fine, I think, Yandy, we've seen, unbelieve aivable growth 230 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 3: in Yandi from the time we acquired him at nineteen 231 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 3: to where he is now. Just the trust, the relationship 232 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 3: with the organization, with his teammates, his openness. You know, 233 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 3: I can't even beginning to put myself in Yondi's shoes 234 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 3: and his life experiences to that point. And you know, 235 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 3: he's as beloved of a teammate as we have here. 236 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 3: And each passing year there's more trust, there's more comfort, 237 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 3: there's more relationship, and look to us publicly ideally, you know, 238 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 3: most of the time things are private, but in this case, 239 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 3: you know, whatever I think, we want to know what our. 240 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 8: Players are thinking. 241 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 3: This is about players, you know, first and foremost, it's 242 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 3: you know, appreciate you having me on it. 243 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 6: I assume that the. 244 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 3: Viewership will go down for a little bit, now back 245 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 3: up when you get players back, but you know, it's 246 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 3: just look, it's about players. 247 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 8: It's trying to put them in the best environment to 248 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 8: be happy. 249 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 3: You know, our circumstances here, you you're. 250 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 8: Around each other every day. 251 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 3: You know, the relationships, the camaraderie is something that's really important. 252 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 3: I think, you know, we didn't have the year we 253 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 3: wanted to last year, and as you know, when that happens, 254 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 3: you know, there's less that people are happy about. But 255 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 3: we're okay, you know, but just trying to continue to 256 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 3: build that environment. 257 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 4: Is that the way though, what you said about we 258 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 4: want people to be themselves, say what they want, but 259 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 4: then you have to deal with the consequences, right, so 260 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 4: you can go out and play. And I played against 261 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 4: the Rais when Madden was there and even before that, 262 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 4: and there was always a little bit of chirpiness from 263 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 4: the race. 264 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 5: Were the underdog. 265 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:21,839 Speaker 8: We can't win. 266 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 5: You guys went out one. So is that the Rays 267 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 5: when we had Kevin Cash in here. And Kevin Cash 268 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 5: is a great communicator. 269 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 4: He lets people be Every player used to Cash is like, 270 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 4: oh Cash, lets us be ourselves. People come over here 271 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 4: from different Oh I thrive because I'm myself? Is that 272 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 4: kind of the Rais thing is, hey, go be yourself, 273 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 4: but listen, there's consequences when you make mistakes. But go 274 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 4: do yourself and figure this out as yourself. 275 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 8: Without without question. 276 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,199 Speaker 3: And Cash he is as good as it gets to 277 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 3: navigate that you give people say, look it with us. 278 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 3: Our teams are often younger, less experienced, or the players 279 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 3: if they're a little deep in their career, they're coming 280 00:11:57,840 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 3: off of. 281 00:11:58,080 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 8: An injury, they're coming. 282 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 3: Off being overlooks somewhere else, right, And you know, I 283 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 3: think for us to pair with that, you're trying to 284 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 3: create an environment where they so much of this is confidence, right, 285 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 3: it's trying to help them either if you're young and 286 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 3: you haven't done it yet, believe you belong you know, 287 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 3: and you can compete here and excel here. And if 288 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 3: you're a player that's been you know, showed up and 289 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 3: spit out somewhere else, that hey, no, I can do 290 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 3: this again, right, And you find the companies so much 291 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 3: is confidence, right. 292 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 8: You have to have the confidence you can go out 293 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:26,959 Speaker 8: and compete. 294 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 3: And everybody has different levels of that inside of them. 295 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 3: But I think cash is as good as I see it. 296 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 3: Just making sure if you're going out there and we 297 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 3: think you're part of our group. 298 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 8: One. We've been fortunate to win a lot of. 299 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 3: Games for a long time, you know, going back to 300 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 3: eight third most wins in baseball in the regular season, 301 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 3: So that's that's. 302 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 8: There, that's there, right. 303 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 3: And then and then with that it's like, all right, well, 304 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 3: if they've won that many games, and I'm here. They 305 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 3: must see something to me, and it's just working to 306 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,199 Speaker 3: make sure you find any way you can to bring 307 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 3: that out of them. But at the same time, you know, 308 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 3: there's got to be standards and you've got to go 309 00:12:57,920 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 3: about your work a certain way within that, but there 310 00:12:59,920 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 3: is a lot of freedom, and you just try to 311 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 3: get guys comfortable to what another. As long as they 312 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 3: take care of one another, you know, be a good teammate. 313 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:07,839 Speaker 8: We can go from there. 314 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 2: Okay, Eric, I want to ask about this because you know, 315 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 2: we have an ad you on to ask this question. 316 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 2: We get it all the time, and I'm sure you've 317 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 2: been asked it a million times. But for our crowd, 318 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 2: because we also have a lot of either you know, 319 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:21,319 Speaker 2: players that played in college or pros but didn't make 320 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 2: it and didn't make a full career out of it, 321 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 2: they want to know how to get involved in a 322 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 2: front office. You went from intern all the way to 323 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 2: your role obviously now for a long time. 324 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 7: How do you do it? What's the advice? 325 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 2: Because it's it's easier for you to tell the story 326 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,319 Speaker 2: then for you know, Chris Young, Craig Breslow, Etsextra. 327 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 7: They they played in the big leagues, you did not 328 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 7: what you got. 329 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 3: They played, and they, if I'm not mistaken, Princeton and 330 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 3: Yale is academically the perception is superior to a I 331 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 3: don't We'll call it Virginia Tech. 332 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 5: Perhaps you know it. 333 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 8: Is, but look I don't know. I yeah, I got 334 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 8: in this. I grew up. I loved the game. I 335 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 8: got hurt. I couldn't play any longer. It probably wouldn't 336 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 8: have gone my past college one way or the other. 337 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 8: So in a way it probably helped me out. You know. 338 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 3: I'd really wanted to coach, and that didn't open to 339 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 3: college level, you know. And then started to learn more 340 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 3: about the pro side, and really, for me, it was 341 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 3: I loved the game. As I learned more about the 342 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 3: major league side, front office, you know, that line of 343 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 3: work and what was behind it, the subject matter and 344 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 3: kind of the intellectual stimulation got me excited about the 345 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 3: possibility of it. 346 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 8: Then I just I chased it. You know, when I 347 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 8: was in my early twenties, I didn't have anything in 348 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 8: my resume that stood out. I just knocked on enough doors, 349 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 8: and after a few failed attempts, the race finally brought 350 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 8: me in. 351 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 3: And Andrew Freeman, I think five months after I was 352 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 3: on the job at an internity talked to me, and 353 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 3: thankfully a few months after that. 354 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 8: He hired me. But really I loved the game. 355 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 3: I didn't get too caught up in how other people 356 00:14:56,160 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 3: went about it. I just wanted to have the opportunity 357 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 3: to make a careerut of something I was really passionate about, 358 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 3: and then worked as hard as I could to make 359 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 3: it possible and do anything and everything with the raise 360 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 3: that how can I make someone else's job easier? 361 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 8: How can I make someone. 362 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 3: Else's life easier, a player, a staff member, whatever it 363 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 3: would be, And I think, really to this day, I 364 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 3: try to do it with the that same attitude. The 365 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 3: best advice I got you better love the game. And 366 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 3: it's not about a job, not about a title. You 367 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 3: do it because you love it. It's not about the 368 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 3: hours of the money. And you know some of us 369 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 3: are lucky enough where it turns into. 370 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 8: More than that, But you know, I don't know. 371 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 3: You gotta be yourself. I did it my own way, 372 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 3: and I couldn't be Breslow. He's way smart and I 373 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 3: am Chris young and more accomplish as a player, more 374 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 3: accomplished academically. 375 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 8: I had to be. 376 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 3: Okay with a science and nutrition food. I can't even 377 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 3: remember my degree out of Virginia Tech without playing experience 378 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 3: past high school and figure out how to show people 379 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 3: I could make their lives easier. 380 00:15:59,160 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 8: And thank you. 381 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 3: I've had one organization that's seen that, and I suppose 382 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 3: I fooled the right people ever since. 383 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 9: Interesting, very very nice, well said. Now my last question 384 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 9: is this. It's kind of different too as well. I'm 385 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 9: curious you see a big name like sho Heo Tani 386 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 9: or Juan Soto out on the free agent market. Now 387 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 9: you're president, You're in talks with some people. You're trying 388 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 9: to make your team as best as possible. What are 389 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 9: what are the talks are you? 390 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 6: Guys? 391 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 5: Like? 392 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 9: Are you always in on every single player? I know 393 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 9: the answer you might get, well, we're looking for a 394 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 9: particular player. But even at that point with a player 395 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 9: of that stature, don't you and I don't want to 396 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 9: speak for you, but don't you have to try and 397 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 9: put your best foot forward to get a guy like that? 398 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 8: Yeah, it's a great. 399 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 3: You kind of handicap where you have a chance for overlap. Right, 400 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 3: Danny Jansen, Hasse and Kim We're too early in the offseason, 401 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 3: we thought, all right, these are two that if things 402 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 3: break a certain way, if we show them some love 403 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 3: and appreciation. 404 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 8: And we keep knocking on the door, maybe we can 405 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 8: line up. 406 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 3: But to your point, if it's a you know, the 407 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 3: free agents, the you know, trades, whatever it may be, 408 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 3: I think, the way we operate, you got to you 409 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 3: got to try, right, like it's not. 410 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:16,479 Speaker 10: I don't know. 411 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 3: I think anytime we're transacting, anytime we're bringing players, you 412 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 3: have to, you know, to know what match makes the 413 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:26,719 Speaker 3: most sense to me. You've got to know the player 414 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 3: universe like an inside out, right. 415 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 8: You got to know players top to bottom. You got 416 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 8: to know how they line up. 417 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 3: And before you know this particular deal makes sense, you 418 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 3: got to know that there's fifteen over here that don't. 419 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 3: And a lot of our work ninety five percent of 420 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 3: the effort we put into two pursuits largely never becomes 421 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 3: public because it doesn't line up. But that's how you 422 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 3: figure out what lines up best. So you know, to 423 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 3: your point, yeah, there's there's probably a few that you 424 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 3: know are enough out of reach that you want to 425 00:17:57,920 --> 00:17:59,640 Speaker 3: work smarter, you know a little bit. 426 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,640 Speaker 4: But no, I don't know this but Freeman, a judge 427 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 4: or two names you guys were rumored. 428 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 6: To being old. 429 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 8: Look, you know, without getting any particular player, you got 430 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:09,239 Speaker 8: to you have to try it right. 431 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,199 Speaker 3: And if you think there's even a one percent chance 432 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:18,360 Speaker 3: of something happening to me, you know, it's my job description, 433 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 3: it's our duty to to explore it right and and 434 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 3: not assume anything is a know because you know, all 435 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 3: it takes is one yes somewhere amongst a thousand no's. 436 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 8: And that's how we got to do our job right. 437 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 3: And if our payroll, the disparities, the revenues, all that 438 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 3: stuff like, you can't you can't wait to raise the 439 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 3: white flag too early virtually anything, And yeah, that's how 440 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 3: we do it. And then you can't be lazy about it. 441 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 3: You just got to keep going and going and going, 442 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 3: and over time good things happen. 443 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 8: So that's that's our approach. 444 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 10: And yeah, I. 445 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 8: Don't I don't mind being told me a thousand times. 446 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 3: We can eventually get a yes in there at some 447 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 3: point and we'll keep going before. 448 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 5: We let you go. 449 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:02,679 Speaker 4: Last one here, all your guys left, Freedman, I mean 450 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 4: everyone wants to do it. Yeah, how Tampa, Every every 451 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,360 Speaker 4: team is like, we want to do it. So are 452 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 4: you going to be a right for life? 453 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 8: I'm trying. 454 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 3: I've been here a long time, two thousand and seven. 455 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 3: They've been They've been good to me, you know, I 456 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 3: talked about it earlier. To me, I love the game. 457 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 4: It's the jealous, know what, like Andrew Friedman has because 458 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 4: he's unlimited payroll. I just think if you had an 459 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 4: unlimited payroll in Tampa and you're like, oh, we want show, 460 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 4: oh Freddy Moki. 461 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 5: Sazaki just for fun. 462 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a different world. It's a different world. I 463 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 3: remind him of how much he's changed, you know. But 464 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 3: look the way I see it, Like I said, like, 465 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 3: love love the game. Couldn't be more grateful for the 466 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 3: way I've been treated here. I couldn't be more grateful for, 467 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 3: you know, the a ton of we have to go 468 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 3: out there and run this thing the way that we 469 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 3: think we need to run it to have a chance 470 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 3: to compete succeed, And sometimes you get a little weird 471 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 3: to do that. But somehow, some way, you got to 472 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 3: take some shots to figure out how to get ground. 473 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 3: That Kevin Cash, you know, his year was eleven. I 474 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 3: think he's been on this like couldn't have a better 475 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 3: partner from a manager standpoint, Like, the most important thing 476 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 3: is I believe we can win here, right Like, and 477 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 3: there is a stubborn belief. The payroll, you get it, 478 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:19,199 Speaker 3: talked about it like, yeah, it is what it is, 479 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 3: and they got us in the World Series and twenty 480 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 3: But I believe we can win here. And as long 481 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 3: as that stubborn belief is there, then yeah, what might 482 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 3: not be there in terms of the payroll and some 483 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 3: of the revenues and how that stuff goes, That is 484 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 3: what it is. 485 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 8: But I think there's a lot of other strengths to 486 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 8: work in here, and a lot. 487 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 3: Of it's the people, right, And we talk about people 488 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 3: that have come and gone from this organization. This if 489 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 3: I walked out this door and disappeared from this organization, 490 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 3: they'd still be good because there's so many great people 491 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 3: that are here and it's a blast to work with them. 492 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 3: And look, it's I don't know, I not all wins 493 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 3: are created equal in the sense, right. 494 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 5: Called Freeman and is like listen, I made for the 495 00:20:58,960 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 5: World Series with. 496 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 3: This and we almost like I said, he's changed, you know, yeah, 497 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 3: he's he's a very good friend of mine. But I 498 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 3: you know, it's winning here and finding a way and 499 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 3: I you. 500 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 8: Know, we've won a lot of regular season games. I 501 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 8: get it. We got to figure out a way to, 502 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 8: you know, to win that last game. 503 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 3: And as long as that beliefs here that we can 504 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 3: do that and the talent we have, the talent underneath, 505 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 3: both now and later, it feels very good about our chances. 506 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 8: To continue to be competitive. 507 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 3: I love nothing more than this is my family's home, 508 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 3: is our community, and I would love nothing more than 509 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 3: to find. 510 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 8: A way to to win that last game here. 511 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 3: And you know, each win the amount you told you 512 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 3: can't win here you can't do it, or it's over 513 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 3: this or that, each win along the way you'd ever 514 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 3: taken for granted, they're probably a little bit more satisfying. Andrew, 515 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 3: he's expected to win one hundred every year now, you know, 516 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,239 Speaker 3: and he's he's raised the bar, and good for him. 517 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 3: He's unbelievable at what he does, you know. But winning 518 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 3: it here, you. 519 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 8: Know, would mean more than winning it every anywhere else, 520 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 8: you know. 521 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 3: Because of the people I work for, people I work with, 522 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 3: and just the stubborn desire to try to see that 523 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 3: through as long as we can. 524 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 7: Eric This was awesome. 525 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 2: Thank you for the insight and obviously just for fans 526 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,239 Speaker 2: to be able to hear someone like you. I mean, 527 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 2: you guys do it right there, just talking like a person. 528 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 2: That's what people want to hear, you know, especially on 529 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 2: the show like this. So thanks for joining us, and 530 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 2: again compliments on the bucket hat. 531 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 7: People are going to check it out. It's going to 532 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 7: get some attention that we've. 533 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 2: Got one of the best interviews in baseball bag with 534 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 2: his live on foul Territory. Obviously the audience gets to 535 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 2: see him a lot too. The TV audience gets the 536 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 2: show all over the state. 537 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 7: What's wrong? What's wrong? Why? 538 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 5: Balls? 539 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 6: All over the place? 540 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 10: They were? They were closer than that. There was only one. 541 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 11: There was only one and it was above the plate. 542 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 10: It was just very above the play. 543 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 2: Your breakdowns after outings in general are always just spot on, 544 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 2: and as you know, Pete, super appreciated because people just 545 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 2: want to hear real human beings speaking after a game. 546 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 7: So what do you got for us? 547 00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,439 Speaker 11: Somebody told me I was terrible yesterday, so I gave 548 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 11: him a thumbs up up as I was walking off 549 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,679 Speaker 11: the mound. I'd like to see him get out there 550 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 11: and walk for that might be within his capabilities, because 551 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 11: it was. 552 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 10: Certainly with my mind. 553 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 5: It was chilly yesterday. 554 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, my hands in my hand were my 555 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 11: hand was good the strike zone, and I just. 556 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 5: Did you challenge it? 557 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 10: We challenged. We were one for one, and then I 558 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 10: went in and I asked, was I hate? Could I 559 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 10: have challenge anymore? 560 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 11: He was like, yeah, right, so probably probably should have 561 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 11: been tapping the head a little bit more than I was. 562 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 4: Closer again for the Rais this year, everyone, every player 563 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 4: that gets to your status and your service time, the 564 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 4: first question is are you going to finish the year 565 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 4: with the Rais? 566 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 10: I sure, hope. So I think based on uh, based 567 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 10: on what I'm hearing. 568 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 11: You know, let's win some ball games, and I think 569 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 11: everything will work out the way it's the way it's 570 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 11: meant to work out. 571 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 10: You know, whether that's me here or me elsewhere. You know. 572 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 11: I uh was trying to trying to go put some 573 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 11: put some counting stats into column and let the chips 574 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 11: fall where they do. 575 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 2: Pete, did you have any concerns about that last year 576 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 2: when the Raids were making moves that you might have 577 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 2: to be moving. 578 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 10: To Eric is? 579 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 11: Uh, He's fantastic. He is very, very transparent, so I wasn't. 580 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 10: I wasn't too worried. 581 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 11: There was a day that I came in from stretch 582 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 11: and my phone was kind of blowing up. I'm like, interesting, 583 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:27,959 Speaker 11: I've got a test from Aaron, my agent. He's like, 584 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 11: you are not getting traded. I'm like why and he's like, yeah, 585 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 11: somebody from some New Jersey paper is rolling with it 586 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 11: on Twitter. And I was like, great. Talk to Eric 587 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 11: when I saw him the clubs. He's like, hey, you're 588 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 11: not going anywhere. I will be sure to let you 589 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 11: know it will not be some beat guy from whatever 590 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 11: paper this is that does And I was like, perfect, 591 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:52,199 Speaker 11: how nice that though it's the best, right, yeah, I 592 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 11: mean it makes it makes it so easy on us 593 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 11: to just go do what we're supposed to do, right, 594 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:56,400 Speaker 11: go out there. 595 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 4: So if you I want to know, is what if 596 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 4: you what if he came to you said hey, in 597 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 4: the next week, you can be traded at any moment. 598 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 5: Do you go home and like pack up your stuff? 599 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,679 Speaker 11: Now I necessarily probably wouldn't be the one packing, but 600 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 11: my wife probably would start packing immediately. 601 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 4: Stress level through the room, stress level through the room 602 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,679 Speaker 4: that you're doing something wrong, Yeah, telling me I have 603 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,719 Speaker 4: too much stuff, et cetera, exactly. 604 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 11: You know, I think, honestly, I don't think that would 605 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 11: be my first I don't think our first thing would 606 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 11: be the pack. I think it would be to start 607 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,919 Speaker 11: calling schools in Saint Louis and be like, hey, we 608 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 11: got to get a spot for two kids coming up, 609 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 11: since that'll probably be where we end up when it's 610 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 11: all said and done. But yeah, you know, there'll be 611 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 11: there'll be some calls. But when you you know, I 612 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 11: think signing the extension with them and kind of understanding 613 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 11: how you know, Eric and Company has to operate and 614 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 11: given you know, everything that that goes on here, that's 615 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 11: something that I was very okay with, something that I had, 616 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,159 Speaker 11: you know, accepted and knew as part of you know, 617 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 11: signing the extension. 618 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 10: And so then it becomes something that I don't necessarily 619 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:06,479 Speaker 10: have to worry about in my day to day. It 620 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 10: becomes hey, I'm. 621 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:09,679 Speaker 11: Gonna go pitch. I'm gonna work on what I need 622 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 11: to work on. They'll be transparent, they'll let me know 623 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 11: if and when it happens, and we just go from there. 624 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,679 Speaker 11: It's not something that's you know, it's like what they 625 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 11: call it an economics like a sunk cost. It is 626 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 11: what it is, right, we don't have to go continue 627 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 11: to worry about it, you know, more so than just 628 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 11: accepting that it, you know, can happen. 629 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 5: As a veteran, now you're a raised veteran. 630 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 10: I'm very old in our clubhouse, yes, and I'm only 631 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 10: thirty one. 632 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 4: That is like ancient race. But you saw, you saw 633 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 4: Yandi's comments right about. You've seen a lot of turnover here. Yes, 634 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 4: in the rays, Yanni made some comments about some guys 635 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 4: your thoughts on I mean what he said, in the 636 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 4: fact that Yandi is speaking out and saying, hey, we're 637 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 4: going to try and do some stuff a little bit 638 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 4: different here. 639 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 11: Yeah, well good, I know the close there, because I 640 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 11: don't know if I've ever heard a good Yandi quote. 641 00:26:55,600 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 10: Besides those, Look, I think that there's there's an aspect to. 642 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 11: Allowing the freedom to be yourself but also operating within 643 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:11,439 Speaker 11: a greater hierarchy of structure. And I think you know, 644 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 11: when that pendulum swings right, you know, science says it 645 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 11: can't get past this certain point of whatever level of freedom, 646 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 11: but you know, somehow somebody gave it an extra boost 647 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:23,880 Speaker 11: in the middle. 648 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 10: We might have sworn too far in either way. 649 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,199 Speaker 11: And you know, I think that there's something to be 650 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 11: said for cohesion, you know, and feeling like you're part 651 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 11: of of the front as well as the back. 652 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 12: Okay, that was that was an interesting way to say 653 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 12: what I think we got out of what you said. Yeah, 654 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 12: I mean certain people need to kind of control I think, well, 655 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,959 Speaker 12: which is fine. It's everybody, right, It's not. It's not 656 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 12: certain people right. It's not like you can point fingers 657 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:51,199 Speaker 12: and be. 658 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,679 Speaker 11: Like, oh, well, you know you've done this, that and 659 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 11: the other without being like, oh well, you know, I 660 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,400 Speaker 11: do some pretty individual ship too. 661 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 10: Like it's not you know, it's just kind of the 662 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:06,199 Speaker 10: nature of the game face walked for. You know. If 663 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 10: I could blame cash for it, I would, but I can't. 664 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 7: All right, Pete, I got one for it. 665 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 2: You're on the executive sub committee now right with the 666 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 2: Players Association. 667 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 8: I was. 668 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 11: I ran a wonderful campaign and I am now a 669 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 11: subcommittee member. 670 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 7: Congratulations to you, mister, thank you. 671 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 2: All right, Well, then give me something good. 672 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 10: We did have a meeting today and. 673 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 11: To quote an iconic Matthew McConaughey line in which he 674 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 11: shows up for like six minutes and steals the movie. 675 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 11: It was very you know, above the years, acidic mustard 676 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 11: gas type ship. 677 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 5: You know, I don't know what you're talking about, but 678 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 5: just hear you say. 679 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 8: That was. 680 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 10: Before he starts thumping his chest. Oh yeah, he goes 681 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 10: up for five minutes and he steals it. He does 682 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 10: still right, you know, talked about the state of the Union. 683 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 6: It was. 684 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 11: For some it happens every four years, well every year, 685 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 11: but you only think about every four years. For us, 686 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 11: it's like spring training. 687 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 10: You know, President comes in, gives you the address, and 688 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 10: you know where you stand and what you gotta you know, 689 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 10: be mindful of coming up. 690 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 2: So Pete, just give me one thing that you want 691 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,959 Speaker 2: to see change or one thing that you're you know 692 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 2: you're working on being on that committee, Like why you're there? 693 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 7: Give me something? 694 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 10: None? 695 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 7: What is important? 696 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 10: I'm there because I think. 697 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 11: You know that we the people that you know, we're 698 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 11: fortunate enough to to be able to serve on player 699 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 11: leadership and attempt to you know, continue to better the 700 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 11: game and move it in the right direction. I think 701 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 11: that that, you know, is something that had kind of, 702 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 11: you know, been on my mind, and I think that 703 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 11: if we can it in whatever way, shape or form better. 704 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 10: Than we found it. I think that that's something that 705 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 10: you know, we we should do. And you know there's 706 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 10: been some some. 707 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 11: I won't call it in cyndiary, but it could be 708 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 11: in cndiary, you know, rhetoric surrounding twenty six and we 709 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 11: just started twenty five. So you know, I think that 710 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 11: you know where it's going to be a very interesting spot, 711 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 11: you know, in the coming years on both sides, and 712 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 11: hopefully you know, we can. 713 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 10: Move the game then the direction that needs to be moved. 714 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 9: What is one change that you personally like or has 715 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 9: always been on your mind, or something that you're like, Man, 716 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 9: you know this would make the game better. Oh, I 717 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 9: see you smiling already, So go ahead. I'll let you talk. 718 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 11: Yeah, if I, if I, I think we should just 719 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 11: accept a very very lax pitch clock, much like they 720 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 11: do in the NCAA, where it's like it's ticking in 721 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 11: the back but nobody ever pays attention to it. That's 722 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 11: would be if I could just there's a pitchlock, but 723 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 11: it's not a real pitchlock. 724 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 4: You know, he pictures, I tell you what pictures. Listen, 725 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 4: they get what you know? You're a closer, so you 726 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 4: have to pitch more. But starters and Zach and here 727 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 4: as I can tell, and he's like, oh man, I 728 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 4: got to pitch every fifth day. 729 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 10: It's real. 730 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 5: You guys are tired. Yeah, he's tired. 731 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 11: Well, if you're playing seventy two holes in between your. 732 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 5: Pitch nineteen, maybe once every third. 733 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:26,959 Speaker 10: Day, well hopefully more than that. 734 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 5: True, but sometimes you go a couple of days you 735 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 5: don't have to pitch. 736 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 11: Yeah, there was nineteen where I'm not complaining about the 737 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 11: cover first. 738 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 5: No, it's an important thing to do. I'm just saying, Yeah, complaining. 739 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 7: Doesn't always happen, but that's important. 740 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 4: Think about the poor catcher when you throw it off 741 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 4: the back stuff, I gotta go chase. 742 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 11: Hey, I'm not going to diminish the hard work and 743 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 11: effort that you guys are subjected to, especially when I'm 744 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 11: bouncing heaters. 745 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, if you spiking heater, that's your fault. You can't 746 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 5: help you with that one. 747 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 6: That's your ful. 748 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 7: Well, I'll say is this. We always love having you on. 749 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 2: Just keep being you because you know baseball needs more 750 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 2: attention and we want to hear about the good the 751 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 2: bad betweens. So thanks, Pete always for being one of 752 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 2: the best interviews in the game. So you've got Zach 753 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 2: lttel over at Race Camp Race Pitcher joining us right now. 754 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 7: Zach, you having fun of camp. 755 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's been good. It's been good. 756 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 10: It's fine. 757 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 2: By Yeah, thanks for churning pict bro, I don't do 758 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 2: anything that picture. 759 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 5: You picture every. 760 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 4: You're like, oh, I gotta play golf today, I get fishing. 761 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 4: Oh it's ten thirty, man. You know, Tom, you remember 762 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 4: those days time as a position player, You're like, oh, 763 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 4: it's ten o'clock. 764 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 5: I'm so I'm gonna go play golf at eleven. 765 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I'm just kidding. But no, I mean, 766 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 6: like I don't know. 767 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 1: For a picture, it's like, once I get to three innings, 768 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 1: I kind of feel like it's good to go, you 769 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, what's the differen between three and. 770 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 10: Six and I don't know. 771 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 5: Tell me. 772 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 6: No, I think, uh, you know, the build up, all 773 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 6: normal stuff. 774 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 1: I think early in campus, like getting your body back 775 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 1: into it, you know how it is the routine. 776 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 10: Of it all. 777 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: But yeah, I think once you get to that three inning, 778 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 1: four inning threshold for me, which I got, I have 779 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: four innings tomorrow. Sody four already kind of fine by 780 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: but yeah, after that, it's just you know, getting in 781 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 1: the routine of a five day and being ready to go. 782 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 4: Your first time, first time you started in spring. 783 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, the next day of how sore are you? 784 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 1: I think, like the first bullpen is the worst one, 785 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 1: but you throw you throw like ten or twelve bullpens 786 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 1: before you get here, right, But then it's like the 787 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 1: intensity picks up. 788 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 6: You know, you got people. 789 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 5: Around, what though your legs your arm sore? 790 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 1: I think it's my arm, you know, like you you 791 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 1: spend all season getting your body right, and then like 792 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, I'm in a good place and you 793 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 1: get here and you want to. 794 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 6: Like put on a little show. 795 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 1: I think that first one and you come out of it, 796 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: you're like, I don't know. 797 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 6: I don't think I'm supposed to be storing these spots, 798 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 6: you know, But. 799 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: No, that first one, I think the first bullpen, first 800 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 1: live live VP is kind of like you're pretty sore. 801 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 6: And then after that it's like the normal stuff. 802 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 7: Zach. 803 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 2: Last year was your first full season as a starter 804 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 2: right in the bigs. 805 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, so what did you learn. 806 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 2: I know you had a few issues late in the 807 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 2: year obviously, I think it was the shoulder, right, So 808 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 2: what did you learn from it? And how do you 809 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 2: feel like in year two you can thrive that way? 810 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you learn just about Like the routino 811 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 1: that like what those four days in between looks like, 812 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 1: you know, going out there and pitchings? Going out there 813 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: and pitching whether you're in the bullpen or or starting, 814 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 1: but being would like talk to the guys's been doing it. 815 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,919 Speaker 1: We had Jack Efflyn, even Aaron Sovali like those guys 816 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 1: like what what are those four days in between your 817 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: starts look like? 818 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 6: What are your eating? What are you looking at? 819 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 1: Looking like you're doing in the training room, in the 820 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 1: weight room, those types of things, because you know at 821 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: the bullpen you're just kind of ready every night. So 822 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,360 Speaker 1: that was a big adjustment, like knowing you're going to 823 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 1: get four days and what are you going to do 824 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 1: to put yourself in the best spot on that fifth day? 825 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: And now, like I think one thing that came out 826 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: of last year, especially after that late August early September 827 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 1: three weeks stretches, you know, saving some. 828 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 6: Bullets early on as far as what. 829 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 1: Are we doing in the weight room or are we 830 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 1: getting crushed in the training room where it's going to 831 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 1: have that effect in September. What are we putting in 832 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 1: our body early in the year. So this year I'm 833 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 1: just looking forward to kind of building on that stuff. 834 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 5: Okay, how much more prepared are you this year after 835 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:18,919 Speaker 5: doing it for a full year? 836 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 6: Yeah? 837 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 4: I made twenty nine starts Yeah last year, So how 838 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 4: much more prepared after doing it for twenty nine starts 839 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 4: for your second basically full year as a starter? 840 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 7: Yeah? 841 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 6: I think just like no one, what to expect more 842 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:30,880 Speaker 6: than anything. 843 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 1: Last year, I came into it like I starred in 844 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 1: the minor leagues, but I was twenty and twenty one 845 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:37,880 Speaker 1: years old and everything felt good every day, you know, 846 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,359 Speaker 1: So knowing what to expect coming out of stars, knowing 847 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 1: what to expect, and the confidence that goes with it 848 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 1: of like all my days when I don't feel great, 849 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 1: like no one, you can still go out there and 850 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:48,879 Speaker 1: get out. 851 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 6: So having a. 852 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,280 Speaker 1: Good plan of what I want to do and really 853 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 1: knowing you know what to expect, It's just the biggest thing. 854 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 1: I keep saying it. 855 00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 5: But are you a lifter? 856 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,399 Speaker 6: I am a Yeah. I like to lift two days. 857 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 4: Explain the people out there that don't know what a 858 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 4: starter does on their five day routine. Some guys throw 859 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 4: one bullpen, some guys so two bullpens. Some guys run 860 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 4: the day after they start. Some guys like to lift 861 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,760 Speaker 4: for multiple days after they start. What's your routine between, 862 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 4: say you start Monday and then you're starting Saturday or Sunday. 863 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's so many ways to do it too, and 864 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 1: so many guys, And that's kind of what I had 865 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 1: to nail down. But I'm a day three bullpen guy, 866 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 1: so like you get four days in between starts, you 867 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 1: build everything out around that bullpen day. Kind of you 868 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 1: obviously want to feel pretty good, especially if you're trying 869 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,319 Speaker 1: to get a good amount of work in. You're in 870 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,239 Speaker 1: a good place, you might throw ten pitches. If you're 871 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 1: not in a great place, you might throw thirty five. 872 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 1: But I build my workouts around that, so day after 873 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 1: I use my long running day, my big lift. 874 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,319 Speaker 6: Day, quote unquote flush day. 875 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,919 Speaker 1: There's a lot of treatment that goes on in that day, 876 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 1: So you come out of that one feeling pretty bad. 877 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 1: I would say that day is probably the worst of 878 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 1: the five days, really, and how you feel and the 879 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,839 Speaker 1: amount of the work that goes into it aside from 880 00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,799 Speaker 1: start day, I guess. But and then day two is 881 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 1: like a lighter lift day, kind of like a true flush, 882 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:04,879 Speaker 1: a movement day I like to call it, where you're 883 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 1: you're not necessarily moving heavyweights, but you're in there, you're 884 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 1: moving your body around, range, emotion stuff. And then ready 885 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,879 Speaker 1: for that third day bullpen where it's pretty light too. 886 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 1: You just come in and get prepped for that, throw 887 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 1: your bullpen, work on whatever you want to work on, 888 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 1: and then that day for is really just a full reset, 889 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 1: be ready to go for that fifth one. 890 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:28,280 Speaker 5: Lay on the table, yeah exactly. Yeah, that's ice cream. 891 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:29,239 Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know about that. 892 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:30,920 Speaker 5: Rough rough life is a picture. 893 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 6: My wife. Yeah, my wife wears me out. 894 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 1: She's like, you just give massages all day, Like they're 895 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 1: not the good kind of massages you get. 896 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 9: Hey, talk a little bit about your new ballpark. 897 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:43,279 Speaker 8: Now. 898 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 9: I heard a lot of different amenities going in there. 899 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 9: How excited are you or not excited? Talk a little 900 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 9: about the good and the bed there. It's gonna be 901 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 9: a little more of a hitter friendly park as well. 902 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,759 Speaker 9: Do you think about that a lot or you just 903 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,279 Speaker 9: go about your daily business and knowing, Hey, I'm gonna 904 00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 9: know who I'm gonna face today. I just got to 905 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:00,840 Speaker 9: you know, business as usual. 906 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I'm not. 907 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,360 Speaker 1: As excited as our position players are, but you know, 908 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,399 Speaker 1: there it'll be good. I mean, I've heard great things 909 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 1: about Steinbrenner. They just get a bigger innovation, so should 910 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 1: be really nice from a facility standpoint. 911 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,760 Speaker 6: But as far as like going out there, the games 912 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 6: are same. 913 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 1: You know, like you we've all played in so many 914 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 1: stadiums at this point that it's just another stadium and. 915 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:22,880 Speaker 6: It'll be a new normal once we get to it. 916 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:24,880 Speaker 1: I'm sure they're gonna be adjustments with the weather, with 917 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 1: the rain, the heat, But two weeks in the season, 918 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,400 Speaker 1: I think it's going to feel very normal. 919 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 10: I don't know what. 920 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,239 Speaker 4: Two months in the season when it's June and it's 921 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 4: one hundred and forty and it's one hundred percent ninety 922 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,319 Speaker 4: nine point nine humidity and it's not raining, but it 923 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,279 Speaker 4: looks like it's going to rain, and you're out there 924 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:44,360 Speaker 4: in the third inning, you're going. 925 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,759 Speaker 6: Where they arrange our schedule though you saw that. 926 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, you guys are like the whole heavy Yeah, it'd 927 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 5: be crazy, But. 928 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,800 Speaker 4: Because I think you guys have fifty two home games 929 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,240 Speaker 4: in the first half and twenty nine in the back. 930 00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,360 Speaker 6: Half or something like July and August. We only have 931 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 6: like seven at home. 932 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 4: You guys also have a todd think about this and 933 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 4: Scott they have a four city West Coast swing. They 934 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,319 Speaker 4: go to the West Coast for four cities. I think 935 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 4: they're there for fourteen days, two off days. 936 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's bad. 937 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:16,280 Speaker 1: It's like l A, Seattle, Oak or Sacramento and San Francisco. 938 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 6: So it'll be yeah, that'll be hot too. 939 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 1: But you think, I mean, like we're talking about you 940 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 1: think Tampa is hotter than Atlanta though Atlanta's been here 941 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:27,000 Speaker 1: in the summer. 942 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 6: I've been here in the summer. 943 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, there's the reason why the Rays and the Marlins 944 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 5: moved inside. 945 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:32,400 Speaker 10: That's right. 946 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 6: What about the old globelife? 947 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,879 Speaker 5: It was hot played for the Rangers for a four years. 948 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,919 Speaker 6: We take the field, that was a different field. 949 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 5: Did you take the. 950 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,719 Speaker 4: Field at seven o'clock and they have the thermometer out 951 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 4: there and left center it would say like one hundred 952 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:45,480 Speaker 4: and nineteen degrees. 953 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 6: You're like, wait, what I got Sunday that day game 954 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:51,400 Speaker 6: out in the bullpen? 955 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:52,359 Speaker 3: Just roast? 956 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 4: What are you gonna do about the range lays as 957 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 4: a starter that messes up your routine because there's gonna 958 00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 4: be Raine lays in Tampa. 959 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 6: I don't know, I man, I think Tampa. 960 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 1: One thing about like picking out of the bullpen, which 961 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 1: I did for a few years, is like, I'm pretty 962 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,959 Speaker 1: flexible overall. It doesn't take me much to get going, 963 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,799 Speaker 1: and I think for me personally, it'll be fine. But like, 964 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,520 Speaker 1: we definitely have some guys that like are really kind 965 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,360 Speaker 1: of stick on their routine. So for me adjustment, Like, 966 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't think anybody really knows what 967 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,440 Speaker 1: to expect, you know, Like well, like you said, it 968 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,359 Speaker 1: might rain at three thirty some days, it might rain 969 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,279 Speaker 1: at seven some days. It's just gonna be one of 970 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 1: those things where like we're just going to. 971 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 6: Figure it out. 972 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,720 Speaker 2: Zach, you mentioned obviously your bullpen time in the past. 973 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,960 Speaker 2: How has that helped you shape your career as a 974 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,560 Speaker 2: starter now? And on that topic, what do you think 975 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,919 Speaker 2: of the trend of some of these relievers saying all right, 976 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,880 Speaker 2: I got several pitches in the arsenal that are you know, 977 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:47,880 Speaker 2: above average or elite in the big leagues. Let me 978 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,279 Speaker 2: try this out. Clay Holmes obviously is given that a go. 979 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 2: Now with the Mets, we saw raynald at Lopez last 980 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,759 Speaker 2: year really really excel in a starting role after going 981 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 2: to the bullpen when originally being a starter, which I 982 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,720 Speaker 2: guess you kind of took us similar path there too. 983 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,919 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I mean I came up as a starter 984 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:05,920 Speaker 1: made to the big leagues. I guess tannically at the 985 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:09,160 Speaker 1: starter not a very good one, but yeah, moved to 986 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:13,000 Speaker 1: the bullpen. I think, like, honestly, the bullpen was a 987 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,160 Speaker 1: really good thing for me, just kind of not letting 988 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:16,480 Speaker 1: me be. 989 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,040 Speaker 6: Too married to a routine. 990 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,520 Speaker 1: You know, it's really important to have a routine obviously, 991 00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,359 Speaker 1: but no one can go out there and pitch if 992 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,959 Speaker 1: your routine isn't perfect or if you don't feel great 993 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 1: that day. Like the bullpen doesn't give you a choice, 994 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:29,759 Speaker 1: Like you show up every day and you're going to 995 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:31,160 Speaker 1: be in there, whether you want to be or not, 996 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 1: whether your body wants to be, whether you feel like 997 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 1: you're in a good place mentally, whatever it is, you 998 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:38,680 Speaker 1: got to go get out so and realizing that at 999 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,400 Speaker 1: the big league level was hard for me specifically, So 1000 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 1: I think the bullpen was really really good for my development. 1001 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 1: And then to get the opportunity to move back into 1002 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,400 Speaker 1: the rotation. Obviously, I think there's not many pictures that 1003 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,320 Speaker 1: you would find in the game that don't want to start, 1004 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:53,840 Speaker 1: so to get the opportunity to do it, for like, 1005 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 1: at the time in twenty three a major league a 1006 00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,400 Speaker 1: major League team that was contending, one of the best 1007 00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,440 Speaker 1: teams in the league at the time, was pretty cool. 1008 00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:05,319 Speaker 1: And the trend you're seeing, Like I said, I think 1009 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,520 Speaker 1: everybody kind of came up as a starter at some point, 1010 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 1: whether it was in college or the minor league. So 1011 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,719 Speaker 1: everyone can do it. It's just a matter of the 1012 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 1: opportunity in the big leagues. You know, you guys know 1013 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:17,839 Speaker 1: a lot of the time there's a lot of really 1014 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,080 Speaker 1: good players that don't ever get a shot because the 1015 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:21,279 Speaker 1: opportunity just wasn't there. 1016 00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:22,439 Speaker 6: It was no fault of their own. 1017 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,560 Speaker 1: It might have been the guy in front of them 1018 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,279 Speaker 1: was on a ten year contract, whatever the case may be. 1019 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:29,799 Speaker 1: So the opportunity has a lot to do with it, 1020 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:31,640 Speaker 1: and teams just can't afford to run you out there 1021 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,239 Speaker 1: for thirty starts and hope for the best, especially if 1022 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,399 Speaker 1: you're contending. So you see it every year and you're 1023 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,120 Speaker 1: you're kind of starting to see now that there have 1024 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:43,879 Speaker 1: been some successful transitions back into the rotation. Teams are like, hey, 1025 00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:45,960 Speaker 1: we've got some guys that we think might be able 1026 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,680 Speaker 1: to do this and it's been really cool to watch. 1027 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,920 Speaker 4: So you were drafted by the Mariners. This is like, 1028 00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:55,920 Speaker 4: this is like an aircraft. Yeah, this is an aircraft name. 1029 00:42:56,000 --> 00:43:01,600 Speaker 4: You're catching them. You go, Mariners, Yankees, Twins as rangerst Man. 1030 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:06,160 Speaker 4: This is like my career Twins, Giants, Rangers, Red Sox, right, 1031 00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:07,160 Speaker 4: and then now Tampa. 1032 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 5: So all those organizations that you've played for, Yeah, what 1033 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:13,840 Speaker 5: does Tampa do different that they say, Zach, we see this. 1034 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,120 Speaker 4: Where every other was it six other organizations where they're like, well, 1035 00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:18,759 Speaker 4: we don't really see you as a start of Tampa's like, 1036 00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:19,560 Speaker 4: we see you as a starter. 1037 00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,160 Speaker 5: If you do this, it can work out. 1038 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean a little bit was out of the necessity, right, 1039 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,879 Speaker 1: Like we had Drew Asmussen was like on the edge 1040 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:28,960 Speaker 1: of doesn't k need surgery? Does he not need surgery? 1041 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 1: And I think at this follow up they found out 1042 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:32,839 Speaker 1: he needed surgery. So it was like, oh, now we're 1043 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,200 Speaker 1: kind of scrambling. The deadline was coming up, and I 1044 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:36,719 Speaker 1: think honestly they were just kind of looking for a 1045 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:38,120 Speaker 1: stop gap to the deadline, like. 1046 00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:39,280 Speaker 6: Try and go out and get somebody. 1047 00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,520 Speaker 1: It was twenty three, and it just kind of like, 1048 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,680 Speaker 1: you know, you throw a lot of strikes, you've got 1049 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,880 Speaker 1: three pitches that we think can play, especially if you 1050 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,080 Speaker 1: fill it up. And I've added two pitches since too, 1051 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,480 Speaker 1: but those three primary attack pictures are what they kind 1052 00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,400 Speaker 1: of built the foundation on. I think Tampa really not 1053 00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,480 Speaker 1: that every organization doesn't find it important, but Tampa really 1054 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,719 Speaker 1: harps on that pound the zone, like get to O 1055 00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:05,960 Speaker 1: two as quick as you can get the guys out 1056 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,200 Speaker 1: of the box. Every guy on this staff has at 1057 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 1: least one, if not multiple, well above major league average pictures. 1058 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 1: So their belief is your stuff's going to play over 1059 00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:17,680 Speaker 1: the plate. And then when we get to two strikes, 1060 00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 1: we can expand you know, we talked about it a 1061 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,399 Speaker 1: lot hitter. Hitters are bad because they swing too much, right, 1062 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,120 Speaker 1: So if we can get them an account where they're 1063 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:27,759 Speaker 1: forced to swing and make them swing of what we 1064 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,800 Speaker 1: want to swing that, then we're in a good spot. 1065 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:31,400 Speaker 1: And I think Tampa does a really good job and 1066 00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:32,720 Speaker 1: like instilling that belief. 1067 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:35,920 Speaker 2: Okay, so I'm going to give the you know, dumber 1068 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:40,200 Speaker 2: fan follow up question here. That sounds so simple, right. 1069 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:43,080 Speaker 2: You hear about things with Tampa pound this zone catchers 1070 00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:47,280 Speaker 2: setting up middle of the plate. Why don't other organizations 1071 00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,600 Speaker 2: do that? And should they be doing that? 1072 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:52,680 Speaker 6: I don't think it's like they don't do it. 1073 00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,919 Speaker 1: I just think that they Tampa has found a way 1074 00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:59,760 Speaker 1: to like truly instill that confidence in you and your stuff. 1075 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,160 Speaker 1: I don't think it comes down to just the philosophy. 1076 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,680 Speaker 1: I think the people that you have implementing that philosophy matter. 1077 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:09,719 Speaker 1: Philosophy matter. I think the Kyle Snyders, the even down 1078 00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:13,360 Speaker 1: to our analyst Winston Doom, and they're so good at 1079 00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:16,000 Speaker 1: coming to you and saying, hey, this is why your 1080 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,839 Speaker 1: stuff is good, and when you throw at these locations, 1081 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:19,880 Speaker 1: good things happen. 1082 00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:22,080 Speaker 6: Other teams are going to do that. 1083 00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,160 Speaker 1: They're going to say, hey, if you can throw this 1084 00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,960 Speaker 1: pich here, you're going to have success. And everybody here 1085 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:30,520 Speaker 1: knows that hitters know that if they get a fastball 1086 00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,040 Speaker 1: in a certain location, they're going to be good. 1087 00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:33,960 Speaker 6: But it's a matter of executing that. 1088 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:37,880 Speaker 1: And I just think that the ability of the organization 1089 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,200 Speaker 1: to communicate and to truly make you believe it as well, 1090 00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,480 Speaker 1: because all of it's a moot point unless you believe it. 1091 00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:45,440 Speaker 7: Okay, so this is interesting to me. 1092 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,080 Speaker 2: You pointed out someone on the analytics side that I 1093 00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,799 Speaker 2: think is worth mentioning here because we don't get a 1094 00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,319 Speaker 2: ton behind the scenes. I think you said Winston Dune, right, 1095 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,360 Speaker 2: that's someone on the analytics team. Okay, So tell me 1096 00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,879 Speaker 2: how someone like that has found a really good way 1097 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,879 Speaker 2: to communicate and make it click with a big league 1098 00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,960 Speaker 2: or what's the personality, Like, what's the approach? Is he 1099 00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,560 Speaker 2: bringing you paper? Is he just starting with a conversation. 1100 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,480 Speaker 2: We are hearing this more often from pictures around the 1101 00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,960 Speaker 2: league where they'll be like, hey, I got a stat 1102 00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:14,759 Speaker 2: Nurder came up to me and said, if you use 1103 00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,560 Speaker 2: your sinker at discount against these types of hitters more often, 1104 00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:18,600 Speaker 2: it is going to work. 1105 00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:19,120 Speaker 7: I did it. 1106 00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,680 Speaker 2: It worked, But take me behind the scenes on how 1107 00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,280 Speaker 2: you get the buying because it's your arm, your career. 1108 00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:26,279 Speaker 6: Sure, yeah, I think. 1109 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,880 Speaker 1: I mean the biggest thing is, like the analyst is 1110 00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:31,840 Speaker 1: I've enjoyed working with and the guys that kind of 1111 00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:33,960 Speaker 1: resonate with you with the most are like the guys 1112 00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,680 Speaker 1: that kind of stay in their lane, right, they're not 1113 00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:38,640 Speaker 1: telling me how I need to throw the picks. They're 1114 00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,360 Speaker 1: not telling me like, oh, feel this with your body. 1115 00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,840 Speaker 1: They're saying, hey, strictly from a number standpoint, if you 1116 00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,120 Speaker 1: throw this sinker in this talent to this type of hitter, 1117 00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:47,719 Speaker 1: you're going. 1118 00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:48,320 Speaker 6: To have success. 1119 00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:52,879 Speaker 1: So I think Winston's really good at It's very black 1120 00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:54,239 Speaker 1: and white for Winston, which is a good thing and 1121 00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,440 Speaker 1: a bad thing. As you guys know, with analysts a 1122 00:46:56,480 --> 00:47:00,279 Speaker 1: lot of time, it's the game is sometimes easy in 1123 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:04,080 Speaker 1: their eyes. But I think when it comes down to it, 1124 00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:07,399 Speaker 1: Winston truly just wants you to be good, obviously because 1125 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,759 Speaker 1: he wants to raise to be good. But he's given 1126 00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,480 Speaker 1: you this information because it works and he's seen it 1127 00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:13,680 Speaker 1: years and years now. 1128 00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:15,919 Speaker 6: He watches more baseball than probably any of us. 1129 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:20,319 Speaker 1: And if he's coming to me with a data point 1130 00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,520 Speaker 1: or a statistic and he's saying, hey, if you can 1131 00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:27,680 Speaker 1: execute in discount with this pitch in this location consistently, 1132 00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:28,839 Speaker 1: you're going to be pretty good. 1133 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,840 Speaker 6: So I think that the. 1134 00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:36,279 Speaker 1: Communication with us is also nice because you have Kyle 1135 00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,359 Speaker 1: Snyder as that bridge as well, who can do both. 1136 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,040 Speaker 1: He can talk to you about the analytics, he can 1137 00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:41,960 Speaker 1: talk to you about pitching. Obviously he was pretty good. 1138 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:46,160 Speaker 1: So having like a team of guys not necessarily like 1139 00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,640 Speaker 1: an analyst, separated from the actual pitching department, where they're 1140 00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:51,800 Speaker 1: coming at you from two different directions, that matters. 1141 00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:53,880 Speaker 4: Agree all right, Before we let you go, I have 1142 00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:57,040 Speaker 4: to ask this because you guys got some dudes, especially starters. 1143 00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:58,000 Speaker 5: Who's the best stuff? 1144 00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,959 Speaker 6: That's a loaded question. Have It's incredible, It's gotta be one. 1145 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:02,200 Speaker 8: Is it? 1146 00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:04,400 Speaker 5: Shane is it? I mean, like Shane, Shane is it? 1147 00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:08,760 Speaker 6: Who's it's? I I'll scream from the rooftop. 1148 00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:12,480 Speaker 1: Tag Bradley has like top to bottom Cy Young colder stuff, 1149 00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,759 Speaker 1: but I mean Shane contends for. 1150 00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:16,240 Speaker 6: Young's every time he pitches. 1151 00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,640 Speaker 1: Shane Boss. We haven't got to see him much just 1152 00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:21,200 Speaker 1: because his workload has been so small, but. 1153 00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,239 Speaker 5: He'll be there. 1154 00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:25,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, he's he's insane. 1155 00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:27,600 Speaker 1: Hit one hundred the other day in his first spring 1156 00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:33,560 Speaker 1: Star I mean Ryan Pepio, Like he's intense on the mound, 1157 00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,120 Speaker 1: like his stuff is just here, it is, come get it, 1158 00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,399 Speaker 1: and all of it's hard, all of it's breaking hard. 1159 00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,560 Speaker 6: So they're all so good, and then the bullpens just 1160 00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:42,440 Speaker 6: equally as good. 1161 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,160 Speaker 1: I don't think that's one of the things, like no 1162 00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,879 Speaker 1: one every season it goes into it happened, You'll see 1163 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:47,279 Speaker 1: it every year. 1164 00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,040 Speaker 6: Is Tampa. No one talks about Tampa staff. It's because 1165 00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:51,480 Speaker 6: it's like the not. 1166 00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:56,480 Speaker 1: As Yeah, yeah, it's it's unbelievable. The guys they bring 1167 00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,919 Speaker 1: in and the I mean Edwin you said it kind. 1168 00:48:58,800 --> 00:48:59,640 Speaker 6: Of came out of nowhere. 1169 00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,520 Speaker 1: He's just incredible, and they all show up to free 1170 00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:03,719 Speaker 1: training to just getting miss a beat. 1171 00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:05,439 Speaker 6: So it should be really fun. 1172 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,120 Speaker 1: I mean the staff, top to bottom, all thirteen, all twelve, 1173 00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,399 Speaker 1: whatever we'd end up doing, are unbelievable. 1174 00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:11,920 Speaker 7: Zactly. 1175 00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,960 Speaker 2: This was awesome. Really enjoyed the conversation. Thanks for stopping by. 1176 00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:16,520 Speaker 2: Good luck the rest of the spring. Will catch you 1177 00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:17,200 Speaker 2: during the season.