WEBVTT - Making It Weird with Sue Bird 0:00:00.920 --> 0:00:03.280 Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where we just 0:00:03.320 --> 0:00:05.960 bought a gallon of sunscreen and three portable fans in 0:00:06.000 --> 0:00:07.880 preparation for WNBA. 0:00:07.440 --> 0:00:09.200 All Star weekend in Phoenix. 0:00:09.720 --> 0:00:11.840 On today's show, we're going to talk all things hoops 0:00:11.880 --> 0:00:15.000 and the joys of retirement with four time WNBA champ 0:00:15.040 --> 0:00:18.280 and five time Olympic gold medalist Sue Byrd. But first, 0:00:18.560 --> 0:00:19.520 here's what you need to know. 0:00:19.600 --> 0:00:23.200 Today. It's All Star Friday. 0:00:23.320 --> 0:00:26.479 The skills competition and the three point contest are today 0:00:26.960 --> 0:00:30.880 the big news. No Sabrina Ynescu or Kitlin Clark in 0:00:30.880 --> 0:00:33.320 the three point contest. Now, multiple outlets reported that the 0:00:33.400 --> 0:00:37.680 WNBA invited both of them, but they declined. Sabrina of 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:39.960 course getting ready for the Olympics, and Kaitlin Clark has 0:00:39.960 --> 0:00:43.600 been playing basketball pretty much every day since well really 0:00:43.640 --> 0:00:46.720 since she was born, but especially all season long for 0:00:46.800 --> 0:00:49.840 college straight into the WNBA. So I guess I understand 0:00:49.880 --> 0:00:53.959 needing a break, but this is so disappointing, especially after 0:00:54.040 --> 0:00:57.240 we saw what Sabrina did in the men's All Star 0:00:57.440 --> 0:01:00.680 competition with Steph Curry. I want to see her come 0:01:00.720 --> 0:01:02.360 back and try to beat her own record from the 0:01:02.360 --> 0:01:05.039 women's three point line, and I really wanted to see 0:01:05.080 --> 0:01:07.440 Caitlin Clark do what she does best. In fact, I 0:01:07.440 --> 0:01:10.160 would love for them to create a second three point 0:01:10.200 --> 0:01:13.520 line near half court logo threes only, Like, can we 0:01:13.600 --> 0:01:16.600 just get a Caitlin Clark logo threes competing against herself? 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:20.800 Three point contest? Augh, I'm just very disappointed. I get it, 0:01:20.920 --> 0:01:23.640 I get it, they need some rest. It's up to them. 0:01:23.680 --> 0:01:24.959 They don't owe us anything. 0:01:25.360 --> 0:01:28.520 And yet that was a huge opportunity for both the 0:01:28.600 --> 0:01:30.360 league and for both of those players. 0:01:30.720 --> 0:01:32.240 So I'm really bummed we're not going to get to 0:01:32.240 --> 0:01:32.919 see them tonight. 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:36.399 We are going to get some great three point competitors though, 0:01:36.400 --> 0:01:39.080 the Liberties jhon Qwell Jones taken on the Washington Mystic 0:01:39.160 --> 0:01:42.280 Stephanie Dolson, who is a center. Yes, that's right, a 0:01:42.400 --> 0:01:44.559 center in the three point contest and as a former 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:46.560 big you know I'm going to be rooting for steph 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:49.600 She also used to be a proud Chicago Sky member. 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:52.840 Dolson actually currently the WNBA leader in three point field 0:01:52.840 --> 0:01:55.480 goal percentage this season, so we love to see it. 0:01:55.600 --> 0:01:58.720 They'll be shooting against the Minnesota Links. Kayla McBride, Atlanta Dreams, 0:01:58.800 --> 0:02:04.120 Alicia Gray and the get Sons. Marina Maybury also super 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:06.400 pumped for the Skills Challenge because we got Britney Griner 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:09.440 representing her home team, the Phoenix Mercury, and she's going 0:02:09.520 --> 0:02:11.600 to compete against a bunch of guards including her Mercury 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:14.480 teammate Sophie Cunningham again Gray and Maybury. 0:02:14.520 --> 0:02:15.320 And then the twenty. 0:02:15.240 --> 0:02:19.560 Nineteen WNBA All Star MVP Erica Wheeler of the Indiana Fever. 0:02:19.720 --> 0:02:23.240 So overall bummed about Sabrina and CC, but lots of 0:02:23.280 --> 0:02:26.519 fun tonight in the skills competition and the three point contest. 0:02:27.520 --> 0:02:29.800 Tomorrow night, we got the All Star Game, Team USA 0:02:29.960 --> 0:02:33.360 versus Team WNBA, and it's the Battle of the Cheryls. 0:02:33.960 --> 0:02:36.320 Cheryl Reeve, head coach of the Minnesota Lynx, who is 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:38.480 also serving as head coach of the US Olympic team, 0:02:38.800 --> 0:02:40.960 is going to lead Team USA in the All Star Game, 0:02:41.320 --> 0:02:44.000 taking on Team WNBA and their head coach. 0:02:44.040 --> 0:02:45.120 Cheryl Miller. 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:49.440 Miller, a women's basketball pioneer, also was the Mercury's first 0:02:49.440 --> 0:02:52.760 ever head coach back in nineteen ninety seven. Pumped for 0:02:52.840 --> 0:02:54.960 the Battle of the Cheryls. I hope they're both miked 0:02:55.000 --> 0:02:57.240 up too. There could be some good trash talk in 0:02:57.240 --> 0:03:00.919 that one. The Phoenix Mercury unveiled their new practice facility 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:04.800 on Thursday, fifty eight thousand square foot performance center. The 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:07.360 organization said it cost one hundred million dollars to build 0:03:07.720 --> 0:03:09.880 and it includes everything from a full kitchen with a 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:13.480 team chef, to an underwater treadmill to two practice courts 0:03:13.560 --> 0:03:17.080 dedicated to Diana Tarassi. Tarassi has played her entire twenty 0:03:17.200 --> 0:03:20.640 season WNBA career with the Mercury. Very cool move to 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:24.400 name those courts after her. Also pretty cool move by 0:03:24.440 --> 0:03:27.400 the Mercury to try to appeal to free agents because 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:31.120 practice facilities have become a massive selling point during WNBA 0:03:31.160 --> 0:03:33.760 free agency. In the last year, both the Las Vegas 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:38.080 Aces and the Seattle Storm built brand new dedicated practice centers, 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:40.840 and those facilities have clearly had a big influence in 0:03:40.880 --> 0:03:44.920 attracting some of the league's biggest names. While the Olympic 0:03:44.960 --> 0:03:49.080 Girlies are away, the Club Girlies will play. That's right, 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:52.440 there's still soccer to watch, not just Olympic soccer. NWSL 0:03:52.560 --> 0:03:56.040 times Leaga MX Feminil Summer Cup kicks off today. It's 0:03:56.040 --> 0:03:58.080 a first of its kind tournament featuring clubs from the 0:03:58.200 --> 0:04:02.400 NWSL of the US and League MXFEMINIL of Mexico. Tonight's 0:04:02.400 --> 0:04:05.440 Seattle Rain versus Utah Royals at nine Eastern on CBS 0:04:05.480 --> 0:04:09.960 Sportsnet and Paramount Plus. Then Tigras UANL versus Pachuca at 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:13.720 ten pm Eastern on Paramount Plus and CBS Sports Golazo Network. 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:18.800 Athletes Unlimited Lacrosse started last night. If you're not familiar, 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:21.359 AU Lacrosse is a four week fifty six player league 0:04:21.360 --> 0:04:24.120 held in Sparks, Maryland, with twenty four games scheduled through 0:04:24.160 --> 0:04:27.640 the August eleventh Grand Finale. It's a short form, fast 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:31.000 paced format with ten minute quarters, ten v ten gameplay, 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:33.560 a sixty second shot clock, and it's all housed on 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:36.320 a ninety yard by sixty yard playing field. Now AU 0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:39.800 uses a special scoring system that sort of rewards individual 0:04:39.839 --> 0:04:42.479 players as well as teams, so every player can lose 0:04:42.640 --> 0:04:45.560 or win points during every game. Athletes score points as 0:04:45.600 --> 0:04:48.080 individuals and as a team to go on to an 0:04:48.200 --> 0:04:52.039 MVP titles and get cash bonuses. Each week, players and 0:04:52.200 --> 0:04:54.800 fans get a chance to vote for their MVP, and 0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:57.159 then the top four players become new captains. Each week 0:04:57.320 --> 0:05:00.000 draft their teams from scratch for the next week's games. 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:02.359 It's a little confusing at first, but then it becomes 0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:04.479 such a cool way to root for players and see 0:05:04.480 --> 0:05:06.480 different matchups in different team dynamics. 0:05:06.680 --> 0:05:08.240 So just watch it for a bit and you'll get 0:05:08.240 --> 0:05:08.880 the feel for it. 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:12.120 You can go to auprosports dot com slash lacrosse to 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:17.680 check out the schedules and TV times. We are hurtling 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:20.240 into the All Star weekend and then we're crashing into 0:05:20.279 --> 0:05:22.279 the Olympic break, but we got to put the brakes 0:05:22.279 --> 0:05:27.360 on real quick and take a breath. We can't put 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:29.599 the first half of the WNBA season to bed without 0:05:29.640 --> 0:05:33.919 first acknowledging yet another milestone for Kaitlin Clark. The Indiana 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:37.400 Fever rookie broke the WNBA single game assist record on 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:40.919 Wednesday night, recording nineteen assists in the team's loss to 0:05:40.920 --> 0:05:44.720 the Dallas Wings. This amazing accomplishment brings us to a 0:05:44.760 --> 0:05:46.159 great yes and moment. 0:05:46.760 --> 0:05:47.640 Yes and. 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:54.719 Yes, Kaitlin Clark's dimes are a wonder and the league 0:05:54.720 --> 0:05:57.240 has seen some pretty good passers in the past two 0:05:58.000 --> 0:06:00.159 Some are still dishing it out every night. Actually, like 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:02.839 the woman Caitlyn passed in the record books, the Liberty's 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:05.840 Courtney Vanderslute. Now Slute had the record with eighteen assists 0:06:05.839 --> 0:06:08.000 in a game set in August of twenty twenty, and 0:06:08.040 --> 0:06:10.279 she's also tied for third most assists in a game 0:06:10.400 --> 0:06:13.960 with sixteen, alongside current players Alyssa Thomas of Connecticut and 0:06:13.960 --> 0:06:16.880 Salutes teammate in New York Sabrina and Escu, plus the 0:06:16.960 --> 0:06:20.400 great t Scha Pennchero, who dished out sixteen assists twice 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:23.080 in her career back in ninety eight and two for 0:06:23.120 --> 0:06:27.760 the Sacramento Monarchs Rip Monarchs, Google them Pennachero sixteen and 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:31.000 ninety eight was the rookie single game record before Caitlyn's 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:33.960 big nights, So there's another record for Caitlin. CC has 0:06:34.000 --> 0:06:37.440 also now set the Fevers single season franchise assist record. 0:06:37.480 --> 0:06:40.239 She's got two hundred and two in twenty six games 0:06:40.440 --> 0:06:43.719 with plenty more games to go. So yes, Caitlin Clark 0:06:44.160 --> 0:06:49.000 and go google t Chapennachero highlights when we come back. 0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:52.400 Her job is basketball. At least it was. 0:06:52.760 --> 0:06:56.120 It's Sue Berd aka Barbie the Legend drops by to 0:06:56.160 --> 0:06:57.840 dish on the WNBA. 0:06:57.440 --> 0:07:03.680 Reality TV and more joining us. 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:07.360 Now we've got one of the greatest players in WNBA history, 0:07:07.440 --> 0:07:08.880 and you better take a. 0:07:08.800 --> 0:07:10.040 Seat, because it's gonna take a while. 0:07:10.360 --> 0:07:13.680 She's a four time WNBA champ, a thirteen time WNBA 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:15.680 All Star, a five time Olympic gold medal. It's a 0:07:15.720 --> 0:07:19.480 two time NCAA champion, and a multi hyphenate post retirement, 0:07:19.800 --> 0:07:22.920 already well into securing an equally powerful legacy in media, 0:07:23.000 --> 0:07:26.360 team ownership and business. She has broken her nose exactly 0:07:26.360 --> 0:07:29.080 the same number of times she's one Olympic gold. It's 0:07:29.120 --> 0:07:32.160 super bird unless you've broken your nose more recently when 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:34.040 you weren't on TV and we didn't get to witness it. 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:36.680 No, No, I think the next time I break my 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:38.200 nose is when I'm getting a nose job. 0:07:39.200 --> 0:07:42.320 I broke my nose in field hockey in high school, 0:07:42.400 --> 0:07:44.600 and I'm like, all these years later, still every once 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:45.760 so WHI, I'll catch sight of it and be like, 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:47.520 I should have just I should have gotten that fixed. 0:07:48.160 --> 0:07:50.960 Oh, it's it's actually it's my I have a deviated 0:07:50.960 --> 0:07:54.000 septum like a lot of people. Yeah, it's the breeding issues. 0:07:54.160 --> 0:07:57.400 It's less vanity, more breathing. I might just claim five 0:07:57.440 --> 0:07:58.040 times is no good. 0:07:58.120 --> 0:08:03.000 I might claim a deviated septum order to fix it. 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:05.360 No one's gonna know no, So I have to start 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:08.360 with something really important, which is, I think you're kind 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:13.480 of my boss now, because you're the chief strategy officer 0:08:13.560 --> 0:08:15.840 for Deep Blue Sports Entertainment, which is one half of 0:08:15.880 --> 0:08:18.720 the partnership along with iHeart that launched this show, that 0:08:18.800 --> 0:08:20.760 launched this women's sports audio network. 0:08:20.800 --> 0:08:21.520 I'm just a plead. 0:08:22.080 --> 0:08:25.240 I'm just the talent here, and I'm trying to figure out, like, 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:26.400 what kind of boss are you? 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:32.400 Good question. I've never been a boss before, so we're 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:34.000 just gonna have to learn together here. 0:08:34.240 --> 0:08:36.560 Oh that sounds terrifying. I mean I think a point 0:08:36.559 --> 0:08:37.880 guard is basically a boss. 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:41.960 Yeah, I'm like, I'm definitely nobody's boss. Even when I 0:08:42.000 --> 0:08:43.880 played you know, we're gonna get serious on it. Even 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:46.960 when I play the point guard position, which is you know, 0:08:47.040 --> 0:08:49.800 the leader and all the things. You know, you're not 0:08:49.840 --> 0:08:51.920 going to actually act like a boss. 0:08:51.960 --> 0:08:52.560 That's no fun. 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:54.120 I don't think you get the best out of people 0:08:54.160 --> 0:08:54.600 on that way. 0:08:54.679 --> 0:08:57.079 You're not firing anybody, that's for sure. That's still absolutely 0:08:57.080 --> 0:09:00.520 good now, definitely not. It is very difficul to keep 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:02.120 up with you these days. In fact, I had to 0:09:02.120 --> 0:09:03.559 go all the way to the south of France to 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:06.640 hang out with you at Sport Beach at can But 0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:08.360 I do spot you on social a lot so I 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:10.480 can keep tabs of what you're doing. You're sitting court 0:09:10.520 --> 0:09:14.360 side at Seattle Storm Games, You're attending Gotham f C Games. 0:09:14.400 --> 0:09:17.040 You're a co owner over there. You're launching new content 0:09:17.080 --> 0:09:20.480 for Together and a touch more new deals with Box. 0:09:21.080 --> 0:09:24.079 You co produced a documentary, So let's pause there. Power 0:09:24.120 --> 0:09:26.640 of the Dream. It's streaming now in prime video. It's 0:09:26.679 --> 0:09:30.400 this incredible look at the true power of the WNBA 0:09:30.559 --> 0:09:32.840 off the court at a moment in time that really 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:37.559 blew people's minds. Tell me about making that and tell 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:38.679 folks why they should watch it. 0:09:38.880 --> 0:09:42.960 Yeah, well I'll start. I'll start with the ladder. So 0:09:43.920 --> 0:09:46.920 this is just the story of you know, all of 0:09:47.000 --> 0:09:49.960 us when we were in the bubble season we arrived there. 0:09:50.120 --> 0:09:52.440 Obviously it's in the middle of a pandemic. It's also 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:54.760 in the middle of the social uprising, and we really 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:56.640 wanted the season to stand for something. We wanted to 0:09:56.640 --> 0:09:59.960 stand for social justice. We wanted to have black live 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:01.760 matter on the court. We wanted to have say her 0:10:01.880 --> 0:10:05.559 name on our warm up shirts, Brianna Taylor's name on 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:07.720 our jerseys. So it was really, you know, we wanted 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:12.280 to have impact, only to be met with resistance by 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:15.120 a Republican sitting senator who was also the owner of 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:17.520 the Atlanta Dream and Kelly Loffler. And it's really the 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:21.280 story of you know, her essentially telling us that we're 0:10:21.440 --> 0:10:24.560 trying to be too political, you know, trying that Black 0:10:24.600 --> 0:10:28.079 Lives Matter is a political movement, a device, and a 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:30.400 divisive one at that. And it's really about it's a 0:10:30.440 --> 0:10:33.000 story about the history of w B activism and how 0:10:33.040 --> 0:10:35.200 we got to twenty twenty and why we had the 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:37.840 backbones that we had, if you will. And then it's 0:10:37.880 --> 0:10:40.200 also about what we did and the strategy that we 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:43.880 took and how we were able to kind of defend 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:47.760 ourselves while also helping American democracy. And that's not like 0:10:47.800 --> 0:10:50.559 a that's not like a loose statement. It's like very 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:53.760 fastial the Senate. Yeah, no, it's pretty crazy when you 0:10:53.760 --> 0:10:56.679 think about it. So it's really just a story of that. 0:10:56.760 --> 0:10:58.360 And I think so it's important to watch it to 0:10:58.679 --> 0:11:02.080 see just I think how the WNBA rolls and really 0:11:03.200 --> 0:11:08.040 how anyone and any you know, I don't know at 0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:10.600 any workplace, at any moment in their lives, in any community. 0:11:10.640 --> 0:11:13.720 When you come together and you get strategic good things 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:16.079 can happen. Good things can happen. So I was really 0:11:16.120 --> 0:11:17.880 excited to be a part of that. The co producing 0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:21.360 part is really just more kind of like, you know, 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:24.280 making sure the dots are connecting, you know, making sure 0:11:24.320 --> 0:11:27.000 we have enough photo, enough video. Luckily, you know, it 0:11:27.040 --> 0:11:28.880 was the bubble, so a lot of people were taking 0:11:28.880 --> 0:11:30.520 pictures of videos who were able to use a lot 0:11:30.520 --> 0:11:33.120 of the archival there, so putting it to putting it 0:11:33.160 --> 0:11:35.200 all together was great. But don Porter, the director, is 0:11:35.200 --> 0:11:37.679 the one that she's incredible all that she noted it. Yeah, 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:38.920 she was one of. 0:11:38.840 --> 0:11:42.920 The directors of the incredible Title nine documentary the ESPN did, 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:46.480 and that was just fantastic. I love how you were 0:11:46.679 --> 0:11:48.360 just one of the co producers of the doc but 0:11:48.400 --> 0:11:51.320 also like basically a co producer of the movement because 0:11:51.320 --> 0:11:53.200 you were such a huge part of making it happen. 0:11:53.360 --> 0:11:57.160 So it's multifaceted that role for you. Where else are 0:11:57.160 --> 0:11:59.800 you spending most of your time these days? How do 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:01.760 you just side which projects to say yes to? And 0:12:01.880 --> 0:12:03.960 how hard is it to say no when everyone's like, 0:12:04.000 --> 0:12:06.120 but it's women's sports and you're super birds, so you 0:12:06.120 --> 0:12:07.280 should be involved with all of it. 0:12:08.480 --> 0:12:11.720 Yeah, I've never been good at saying no, Like my 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:14.320 whole life. It's that whole you know, that old people 0:12:14.320 --> 0:12:20.480 pleasing thing. So I'm definitely navigating that. I do feel like, 0:12:20.559 --> 0:12:23.000 honestly similar to you, Sarah, why the show is so important. 0:12:24.160 --> 0:12:26.160 We're kind we're on the same age and so we 0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:29.720 have similar experience, and that we've been in women's sports 0:12:29.720 --> 0:12:33.360 for so long, so we're uniquely positioned our voices, our experience, 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:36.040 all of that, understanding the nuance. I mean, we've talked 0:12:36.080 --> 0:12:39.400 about this at nauseum at times, so it's hard to 0:12:39.440 --> 0:12:41.800 say no because we are at such a pivotal moment. 0:12:41.840 --> 0:12:44.520 It's so exciting. There's so much coverage, or so much 0:12:44.520 --> 0:12:48.120 more coverage. So you want to have those voices a 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:49.640 part of it. You want to have your you know, 0:12:50.840 --> 0:12:53.559 your fingerprints all over it. But you have to learn 0:12:53.600 --> 0:12:55.000 how to say no too. So that's kind of what 0:12:55.000 --> 0:12:58.640 I'm navigating, trying to keep the main thing, the main thing, 0:12:58.679 --> 0:13:01.280 which at this point is really just not you know, 0:13:01.360 --> 0:13:02.680 overdoing it for myself. 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:04.680 I like how you tried to find a main thing, 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:07.640 and you still were like, it's still all the things, 0:13:08.520 --> 0:13:11.040 but like just doing only so many of all the things. 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:13.760 Yeah, basically, I've never had a main thing. 0:13:14.040 --> 0:13:16.080 I was to have athlete. I didn't even have a 0:13:16.200 --> 0:13:17.960 main thing in sports. 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:20.520 I've literally never said no, not even to an event 0:13:20.640 --> 0:13:23.760 other than like the mile plus anything longer than a mile. 0:13:23.960 --> 0:13:25.040 It was easy to say no to. 0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:28.000 I'm out. You didn't have like one that you were 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:28.520 better at. 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:31.679 I mean, my best was probably that gaveling, and then 0:13:31.760 --> 0:13:34.360 hurdles and triple and long jump. Yeah, I mean I 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:36.120 didn't really have one that was so much better than 0:13:36.120 --> 0:13:37.680 the others. 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:38.920 Never been good at the main thing. 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:43.920 You did finally say no to basketball, and by that 0:13:43.960 --> 0:13:48.320 I mean you were retired finally, which is like, I'm 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:50.720 still sad, you know this, because I was such an 0:13:50.720 --> 0:13:53.400 asshole the entire time, every time you were like I'm 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:53.880 not sure. 0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:57.200 I'm like one more year, You're not allowed all of us. 0:13:57.400 --> 0:13:59.120 You're the only thing I have left when I'm like, oh, 0:13:59.160 --> 0:14:00.840 there's people my age still doing stuff. 0:14:01.559 --> 0:14:05.480 OK, what's been the best part about being retired? 0:14:09.920 --> 0:14:15.200 Probably just making my own schedule. You know, obviously, listen, 0:14:15.240 --> 0:14:17.160 you play sports. Everybody knows it when you're an athlete, 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:19.480 like you're in season, you've got games, you're traveling. If 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:21.160 you don't have games, you have practice, and the off 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:24.160 season you work out. But I don't think the part 0:14:24.200 --> 0:14:27.400 that people don't understand is just how it's constantly running 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:30.480 in the backdrop. There's just this thing that is just 0:14:31.080 --> 0:14:34.200 always there, and it's either providing a little bit of guilt, 0:14:34.360 --> 0:14:36.240 like crap, I gotta fucking get up and work out. 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:38.280 How am I going to set this in? Or it's 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:42.240 providing a ton of other emotions. But it's just always there. 0:14:42.280 --> 0:14:45.320 It's always guiding you. And so once that was gone, 0:14:45.440 --> 0:14:48.000 there's definitely moments of like what the fuck do I 0:14:48.000 --> 0:14:52.440 do now? But now I'm almost two years, Like once 0:14:52.480 --> 0:14:55.400 this WNB season ends, it'll be two years. So I'm 0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:57.640 starting to get into a flow and I really like 0:14:57.720 --> 0:15:01.080 that I can. I I have my own time. I 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:03.560 get to make the decisions I want with my own 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:07.120 time now outside of work stuff that still exists. But 0:15:07.280 --> 0:15:10.920 that's really nice. Like Megan and I can I don't know, 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:13.120 go to Mexico for a weekend if we want it, 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:15.480 you know, we can take a trip, we can see friends, 0:15:15.520 --> 0:15:17.920 we can make these decisions where before that was just 0:15:18.000 --> 0:15:20.680 not on the table. So it's been really cool to 0:15:20.840 --> 0:15:24.600 kind of add those days back into like my consciousness. 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:26.360 They were just not there, they didn't exist. 0:15:26.560 --> 0:15:29.160 Yeah, it's pretty wild. I think the non athlete doesn't 0:15:29.200 --> 0:15:31.920 really get. It's kind of like I think about being 0:15:31.960 --> 0:15:34.280 like an actor and actress, where it's like, no, no, you 0:15:34.320 --> 0:15:37.520 can't cut your hair. You can't like accidentally get a 0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:39.360 bruise because that's not going to match the time we 0:15:39.360 --> 0:15:41.840 were recording this scene the last time, and now we 0:15:41.880 --> 0:15:45.160 have to make it. You know, like your body and 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:48.160 you are not entirely yours in a way that's very 0:15:48.160 --> 0:15:49.600 different from a lot of other jobs. 0:15:50.480 --> 0:15:51.600 What's been the toughest. 0:15:51.280 --> 0:15:54.320 Part probably like the same thing. 0:15:55.840 --> 0:15:58.520 No structure. No one's telling me like what the hell 0:15:58.560 --> 0:15:59.040 am I spying? 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:02.400 I know my dad. My dad has through through my 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:05.320 professional career, has joked that I've just been in like 0:16:05.360 --> 0:16:09.040 this extended version of kindergarten. You know. It's like people 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:11.120 telling me where to go when I have a booboo, 0:16:11.160 --> 0:16:13.880 they fix it. And I think all of those Yeah, exactly, 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:16.440 make sure you your snack, make sure that's that, make 0:16:16.480 --> 0:16:18.320 sure you nap, don't miss your nap time. 0:16:18.440 --> 0:16:19.560 You have literal timeouts. 0:16:19.680 --> 0:16:24.360 So yeah, yeah, so that part has been tough too. 0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:28.160 I think the hardest part is just I guess, like 0:16:28.200 --> 0:16:30.920 the identity piece of it. You know, it's even it 0:16:31.200 --> 0:16:34.240 still doesn't roll off my tongue when if I introduce, 0:16:34.320 --> 0:16:36.760 if I'm getting introduced or I'm introducing myself, like oh, 0:16:37.080 --> 0:16:41.280 retired athlete, former athlete, it still doesn't come naturally. I 0:16:41.320 --> 0:16:43.200 still speak in the wing when I talk about the 0:16:43.320 --> 0:16:48.320 w NBA, So that part is still slowly I'm still 0:16:48.320 --> 0:16:50.680 slowly letting go of it. So it's been a process 0:16:50.800 --> 0:16:53.600 getting better, but it's been that's probably the hardest part. 0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:56.760 I'm gonna say forever athlete retired is fine if we 0:16:56.840 --> 0:16:59.720 never say fur I like that. You mentioned Megan your 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:04.080 full fiance still unless you secretly got married. 0:17:04.160 --> 0:17:07.520 Okay, it's been a long engagement, so just checking. 0:17:07.320 --> 0:17:09.320 To make sure a little bit we didn't make use 0:17:09.359 --> 0:17:12.440 of our free time that way. You and Meghan Rapino 0:17:13.080 --> 0:17:16.680 this incredible power couple, and you've done a lot separately 0:17:16.680 --> 0:17:19.600 and a lot together. I'm wondering the weirdest pitch or 0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:22.080 invitation that you've gotten. You don't necessarily have to share 0:17:22.160 --> 0:17:24.600 names or specifics of a company or a person, but like, 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:27.120 did you ever get like a prince in Dubai that's 0:17:27.160 --> 0:17:29.440 like okay, five million dollars to be at my party 0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:32.520 or some company that you're like, this is the worst. 0:17:32.720 --> 0:17:34.560 This is like not a fit. 0:17:36.000 --> 0:17:38.960 Nothing is nothing's collen to the top of my head. 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:41.800 And this isn't This isn't a plug, I promise, but 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:44.399 we are. We recently announced we're going to do like 0:17:44.440 --> 0:17:48.840 a reality show around the dating lives of women's athletes. 0:17:49.000 --> 0:17:52.159 No way, where did you announce it? 0:17:52.200 --> 0:17:53.040 How do I gus this? 0:17:54.160 --> 0:17:56.199 It's like a touch more which is me and Megan's 0:17:56.200 --> 0:17:58.960 production company in partnership with Together but also a partnership 0:17:59.000 --> 0:18:01.560 with Bunna Murray. It does. I mean, they're like the 0:18:01.600 --> 0:18:02.560 wizards of this. 0:18:02.880 --> 0:18:07.600 Oh my wait wait wait wait wait more details all 0:18:07.640 --> 0:18:08.119 the details. 0:18:08.160 --> 0:18:12.080 Basically, yeah, I mean we're going to follow you know, 0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:14.399 any female athlete that wants to be a part of it. 0:18:14.400 --> 0:18:16.320 We're going to follow their dating lives. So whether it's 0:18:16.359 --> 0:18:19.720 people who are in relationships mary, partner, husband, white, doesn't matter, 0:18:19.720 --> 0:18:24.200 all the above, everything in between, single dating, you knowing 0:18:24.480 --> 0:18:27.199 mingled and just like yeah, we don't want it to 0:18:27.240 --> 0:18:29.320 be it's not gonna it's not gonna start out as 0:18:29.359 --> 0:18:30.360 like some salacious thing. 0:18:30.440 --> 0:18:34.840 No, it's gonna turn into fantasy. It's gonna turn Remember 0:18:34.880 --> 0:18:36.439 that show, wasn't it Fantasy Island? 0:18:37.480 --> 0:18:41.360 Discover Way America can't stop talking about Temptation Island. 0:18:41.600 --> 0:18:42.520 I never watched it. 0:18:42.760 --> 0:18:46.560 I never literally watched it with my dad. I don't 0:18:46.600 --> 0:18:46.760 know that. 0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:49.159 What weird that was when we were growing up, it 0:18:49.240 --> 0:18:51.399 was like they sent couples to a place and they 0:18:51.400 --> 0:18:53.639 were like, either this will bring you closer together, or 0:18:53.640 --> 0:18:55.840 you'll all start having sex with each other instead. 0:18:57.080 --> 0:18:59.240 Like I feel like that's like that. I feel like 0:18:59.280 --> 0:19:01.399 that could be this. It's like, hey, we have a 0:19:01.400 --> 0:19:01.760 bunch of it. 0:19:01.960 --> 0:19:04.960 I might have teammates, you might have teammates dating. It 0:19:05.080 --> 0:19:09.960 might have you know, like inter league dating, Yeah, different sports, 0:19:09.960 --> 0:19:13.520 you name it. So we're in the process right now. Obviously, 0:19:14.320 --> 0:19:15.679