WEBVTT - Patriots Unfiltered 8/18: Preseason Week 1 Breakdown, Burning Questions, Eagles Joint Practice Preview 0:00:00.760 --> 0:00:03.200 Some of the content of Patriots Unfiltered may not be 0:00:03.240 --> 0:00:04.760 suitable for all audiences. 0:00:05.160 --> 0:00:12.360 Listener discretion is advised. The world's of Bigeon podcasts. 0:00:15.120 --> 0:00:21.640 Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered, presented by Toyota dot Com. 0:00:21.720 --> 0:00:27.560 All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Tuesday here 0:00:27.560 --> 0:00:31.320 at Chelette Stadium. We're back to our regular noontime start, 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:34.640 but not for long. I've got a big week this week. 0:00:35.000 --> 0:00:38.960 The Eagles are coming to town, so that's gonna be 0:00:39.000 --> 0:00:42.720 really exciting. We're gonna have joint practices Tomorrow and Thursday 0:00:43.159 --> 0:00:48.280 we'll be doing live shows. But today we can recap 0:00:48.320 --> 0:00:50.560 everything we've seen since the last time we had a 0:00:50.600 --> 0:00:53.960 show last Thursday. Yeah, it's Evan, it's Paul, it's Me, 0:00:54.080 --> 0:00:58.640 it's Deuce, it's Matt and Na Booth and h Yeah. 0:00:58.520 --> 0:01:01.880 A couple padded practice, a couple of twelve o'clock show. 0:01:01.960 --> 0:01:04.160 I know, it feels like it's been a long time since. 0:01:04.200 --> 0:01:06.160 It feels like it's comfortable. 0:01:07.240 --> 0:01:09.560 In confends is what day it is. I'm losing track 0:01:09.560 --> 0:01:11.160 because I just I've. 0:01:11.040 --> 0:01:14.760 Had a handful of practices, but generally speaking, really only 0:01:14.920 --> 0:01:18.440 two of significant. They had Saturday and Monday in pads. 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:24.920 Sunday and Tuesday were both walked throughs, and I thought 0:01:25.319 --> 0:01:27.800 at times there was some interesting things, And I thought, 0:01:27.880 --> 0:01:31.960 especially so with Drake May on Monday, I'm getting a 0:01:32.000 --> 0:01:34.040 little like Verable losing track of the day is yesterday. 0:01:34.480 --> 0:01:36.640 I thought it was a pretty sharp day for the offense, 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:39.960 the passing game in general. I know, I want to 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:41.720 get into this a little bit later in the show, 0:01:41.760 --> 0:01:45.600 because not all members of the show were a lockstep 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:48.760 on the performance of the quarterbacks, So I do want 0:01:48.800 --> 0:01:50.880 to get into that when when we have his attention. 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:56.160 But I thought yesterday was a really good day, punctuated 0:01:56.200 --> 0:01:58.440 by a pretty impressive two minute drill at the end 0:01:58.480 --> 0:02:00.520 of of the practice. So I thought they got a 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:02.880 lot of good work done yesterday, dialed it back today 0:02:02.880 --> 0:02:04.960 with a walkthrough, and we're just grinding through. 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:08.320 Yeah, Romeo Dobbs coming on. I mean, I think we 0:02:08.320 --> 0:02:10.440 were all a little bit concerned early on, but now 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:14.240 with him and Brown, they're both stringing together some consistent practices. 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:16.800 The big play to A J. Brown yesterday that was 0:02:17.080 --> 0:02:19.440 nice to see, I said, I kept saying, I mean, 0:02:19.440 --> 0:02:21.040 I don't feel like Drake's like really lit it up. 0:02:21.080 --> 0:02:23.280 For a whole practice. Yet it was the one practice 0:02:23.320 --> 0:02:25.360 I missed that you guys, you know, had the reports 0:02:25.360 --> 0:02:27.560 that I wish I was there to see it. I'll 0:02:27.600 --> 0:02:30.440 take your word for it. But yesterday felt like a 0:02:30.440 --> 0:02:33.799 good Drake day and you know, consistent, That's what That's 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:35.320 what stood out to me. Just it feels like a 0:02:35.320 --> 0:02:37.120 lot of these practices he gets a little bit of 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:39.680 a slow start, or you know, maybe he has a 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:41.560 good run and then he has a slow finish. Like 0:02:42.280 --> 0:02:44.600 feels like these two practices, including yesterday's and the one 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:46.920 I missed, were his best two days oh camp. 0:02:47.320 --> 0:02:48.600 Yesterday I was thrilled. 0:02:48.840 --> 0:02:49.399 There we go. 0:02:49.520 --> 0:02:51.000 I was thrilled back, thank god. 0:02:51.160 --> 0:02:55.080 No, how much do you guys, how much do you 0:02:55.120 --> 0:02:57.240 owe me? There's no way he was bringing that to 0:02:57.280 --> 0:02:57.600 the air. 0:02:57.680 --> 0:02:58.160 I knew it. 0:02:58.400 --> 0:03:00.079 I knew it. 0:03:00.480 --> 0:03:02.320 Concert on Saturday, Fred, weren't you? 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:03.079 Yeah? 0:03:03.320 --> 0:03:06.680 Fred was some tough coaching in the quarterback training camp 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:07.320 and yeah. 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:09.800 No, listen, I think overall I'd love to see Drake 0:03:09.960 --> 0:03:12.560 just get it out just the second earlier, just a 0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:15.560 smidge earlier. Trust the receiver is going to be where 0:03:15.560 --> 0:03:17.799 it's going to be supposed to be, and just get 0:03:17.840 --> 0:03:20.160 it out. Of his hands just a second or two earlier. 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:24.720 But yesterday was like Patriots offense of the of old. 0:03:24.760 --> 0:03:27.480 You know, ball wasn't on the ground guys, you know, 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:33.040 guys hitting guys in stride, you know, all levels, short, medium, long. 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:37.960 It really looked like a great offense. Now you didn't 0:03:37.960 --> 0:03:42.560 have Gonzales out there. Carlton Davis is still probably not 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:46.960 one hundred percent, so you're not exactly going against Murderer's 0:03:47.040 --> 0:03:50.960 row of cornerbacks. But it looked great. I think I 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:53.880 thought it was the offense's best dayah and I haven't 0:03:53.880 --> 0:03:54.600 seen every product. 0:03:54.680 --> 0:03:56.160 It was a good day yesterday. It was a good 0:03:56.160 --> 0:03:57.640 offensive day, absolutely, yeah. 0:03:57.840 --> 0:04:00.360 I think big picture, the most exciting part is that 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:03.200 AJ Brown and Romeo Dobbs are starting to look more 0:04:03.280 --> 0:04:05.880 and more like the duo we thought when they brought 0:04:05.960 --> 0:04:08.400 him in the offseason. That's maybe been a little bit 0:04:08.400 --> 0:04:09.960 of a slow burn, Like I don't think that that's 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:13.320 happened overnight. That those two have been caught up to 0:04:13.360 --> 0:04:15.680 speed and on the same page as the quarterback and 0:04:16.240 --> 0:04:19.440 getting open and playing fast within the offense. We're starting 0:04:19.480 --> 0:04:23.400 to see that every single day more and more. Small picture, 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:27.000 the two minute drill yesterday that Drake May had was flawless, 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:29.200 and I think that that's not always the case with him. 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:31.560 Like I think sometimes the two minute drills can be 0:04:31.640 --> 0:04:35.240 a little bit clunky. The throw everybody's talking about is 0:04:35.279 --> 0:04:37.680 the deep one that we posted to AJ Brown earlier 0:04:37.680 --> 0:04:40.320 in the practice. The crossing route that he threw to 0:04:40.360 --> 0:04:42.039 AJ Brown in the two minute drill was an even 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:46.839 better throw. It was rolling to his right and he 0:04:46.960 --> 0:04:49.479 was running a crossing route right behind the second level, 0:04:49.600 --> 0:04:51.680 in between the second and third levels of the defense, 0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:54.360 and on the move, Drake May layered it right over 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:56.480 the second level and in front of the third level 0:04:56.480 --> 0:04:59.560 into AJ Brown for about a thirty yard completion to 0:04:59.600 --> 0:05:02.760 get that. Two minute drills started. Then the defense because 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:04.680 I think they were playing field goal, they started heating 0:05:04.760 --> 0:05:07.200 Drake May up to try to get a turnover or 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:09.960 a negative play, and he had answers like he was 0:05:10.000 --> 0:05:12.640 getting the ball out against the blitz quickly and hit 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:15.359 Remandre in the flat and a really nice play to 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:17.520 get them down at the chip shot field goal range. 0:05:17.920 --> 0:05:21.000 That was that was nice, Like that was a really 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:24.719 smooth two minute drill that, like I said, we've seen 0:05:24.760 --> 0:05:26.800 some clunky ones and that was not as good as 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:27.120 it gets. 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:30.920 And you mentioned Dobbs. He had a slow start to camp. Yep, 0:05:31.000 --> 0:05:34.520 but he's really come on, you know, like catches everything. 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:36.559 Yeah, I mean that's just I mean, that's what stood 0:05:36.600 --> 0:05:37.800 out to me when he's coming. I thought he had 0:05:37.839 --> 0:05:40.240 good hands, you know, not maybe not the biggest burner, 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:42.800 but a bigger guy. And you're just you're seeing him 0:05:42.839 --> 0:05:46.040 catch him low. You're seeing them moss people seeing him today, 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:47.559 I practice on the jugs machine. 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:50.119 We keep saying that, like that slant to aj Brown 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:52.080 looks like it's there any time they wanted. 0:05:52.120 --> 0:05:53.320 It's almost unstoppable. 0:05:53.360 --> 0:05:55.520 I would say, you know, the eight to ten yard 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:59.640 out to Romeo Dobbs is quickly approaching that level of 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:00.880 being unstoppable. 0:06:01.200 --> 0:06:02.839 Nave run it, you know. 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:05.039 I think Evan said this on our podcast yesterday, I 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:07.720 camp cast. You know, it's great to see him, you know, 0:06:07.839 --> 0:06:10.720 jumping over defensive backs and winning, contesting catches in the 0:06:10.800 --> 0:06:12.200 end zone and mossing guys. 0:06:12.000 --> 0:06:13.840 That that's great that he has that ability. 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:17.720 But much more valuable to me is his ability to 0:06:17.720 --> 0:06:20.680 just run a twelve yard out and be open, like 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:25.040 significantly open. We've seen so many outs where the defensive 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:27.320 back is right there, and Drake has to be precise 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:30.479 with the throw and it's off just a hair and 0:06:30.520 --> 0:06:33.440 it's a dangerous throat to the outside like that. Those 0:06:33.640 --> 0:06:36.080 have just been pitching catch with Romeo Dodds the last 0:06:36.080 --> 0:06:37.440 I would say three four practices. 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:42.400 I mean between between Dobbs, A J. Brown, Hollins, Hunter, Henry. 0:06:42.440 --> 0:06:44.240 I don't even throw Raritan in it. We've got some 0:06:44.360 --> 0:06:48.520 size that at the receiving at the targets, and not 0:06:48.640 --> 0:06:51.480 every team has cornerbacks and safeties that are six one, 0:06:51.560 --> 0:06:54.360 six two. I'm wondering, is there a particular team in 0:06:54.400 --> 0:06:58.160 our schedule that has a smaller secondary that going into 0:06:58.200 --> 0:07:01.840 that game like the will be in our favor. I'm 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:02.520 a size sure. 0:07:02.560 --> 0:07:04.680 We'll get into that. You know, we've talked a lot 0:07:04.720 --> 0:07:08.320 about Drake liking to throw to bigger receivers, and he's 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:10.440 talked about it a little bit with his brothers, like 0:07:10.560 --> 0:07:13.320 throwing with his brothers in the backyard and they're all 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:16.760 they're all six foot five, and so he's kind of 0:07:16.840 --> 0:07:19.560 used to that size and throwing to guys with big 0:07:19.600 --> 0:07:22.440 catch radiuses. And then you look at the way they 0:07:22.480 --> 0:07:24.920 moved and they trade for a J Brown and signed 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:27.360 Romeo Dobbs and draft a six foot six tight end 0:07:27.360 --> 0:07:30.320 and Eli Roaden, and clearly they want to make a 0:07:30.360 --> 0:07:33.400 team full of power forwards and centers. Now, my one 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:35.560 concern with that was the jump balls. Like I think 0:07:35.600 --> 0:07:37.480 a lot of the downfield stuff that we've seen in 0:07:37.520 --> 0:07:39.840 practice have been fifty to fifty balls, and I would 0:07:39.880 --> 0:07:43.680 prefer not to live that way down the field. But yesterday, 0:07:44.160 --> 0:07:45.720 you know, they started to hit some of those down 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:47.960 the field where guys were getting open, and so that 0:07:47.960 --> 0:07:49.960 that was encouraging. But there's no doubt that they want 0:07:49.960 --> 0:07:55.680 to build a physical, contested catch type of roster at 0:07:55.680 --> 0:07:58.720 the receiver positions, and I think that that's catering to 0:07:58.720 --> 0:08:00.520 the quarterback more than maybe schedule. 0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:02.680 Yeah, the emergence of those two guys too, just made 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:04.720 me think a whole lot less about the rest of 0:08:04.760 --> 0:08:06.880 the depth chart. It's you look at the top three 0:08:07.080 --> 0:08:10.120 Douglas and those two that's a that's a good offense. 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:12.440 And with Hunter, Henry and Ridan getting mixed in a 0:08:12.440 --> 0:08:14.960 little bit the rest, I don't really I'm not really 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:15.440 too concerned. 0:08:15.560 --> 0:08:17.800 He should have a really good passing game, and you know, 0:08:17.920 --> 0:08:19.600 I think on Sunday we got a chance to talk 0:08:19.600 --> 0:08:23.000 to the offensive coaches and Josh McDaniel spoke a little 0:08:23.040 --> 0:08:24.840 bit about it. He was asked about the stuff that 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:27.400 Evan was just talking about, just the size of the guys, 0:08:27.440 --> 0:08:29.240 and he and he started laughing. He goes, well, I 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:33.320 think Pop might take because he's the one guy that's different. 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:35.839 But I think this can be really valuable for Douglas 0:08:35.880 --> 0:08:39.359 because of the space that he's going to get afforded. 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:41.679 I just think these guys are going to require a 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:44.040 lot of attention from secondaries. 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:45.360 I don't you know. 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:49.920 I think Kasha on Booty spoke yesterday like if people 0:08:49.960 --> 0:08:51.800 want to one on one with aj Burn, they're gonna 0:08:51.800 --> 0:08:54.160 lose ten times out of ten, you know, And that's 0:08:54.200 --> 0:08:57.240 the kind of receiver you have now that again, Mike, 0:08:57.480 --> 0:08:58.040 Evan and I. 0:08:57.960 --> 0:08:59.680 Have been telling you that they're kind of lacked. 0:08:59.800 --> 0:09:01.679 Really it's interesting, and how did I see it on 0:09:01.720 --> 0:09:03.280 the field. It actually looks like it'll work. 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:05.600 So I do think it's like you can drow the 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:08.920 corner and the safety over the top they're. 0:09:08.800 --> 0:09:11.400 Talking about like, I'm not even gonna gonna geek out, 0:09:11.480 --> 0:09:13.600 like Evan, will you know and tell you all the 0:09:13.600 --> 0:09:15.679 things that it can create for the running game with 0:09:15.880 --> 0:09:17.600 lighter boxes and safety. 0:09:17.800 --> 0:09:20.520 Put the fall back in the backfield, running back in 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:20.920 the dot. 0:09:21.480 --> 0:09:23.000 I think Josh can have some fun with it. 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:24.839 Let's go, let's go it. 0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:27.720 Like they open up these team periods, it was like 0:09:28.120 --> 0:09:30.240 yesterday they had like they opened the first series was 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:33.320 all first down plays and you see, you know, the 0:09:33.360 --> 0:09:38.640 first play it's like three receivers, you know, you know, 0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:42.760 and then the next play it's like two tight ends 0:09:42.800 --> 0:09:45.720 and Gilliam you know, so you're going with a power group. 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:48.199 Then the next play just makes me feel like next 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:48.640 play it was. 0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:51.000 Like ten personnel, like you you know, they have no 0:09:51.080 --> 0:09:53.400 tight end on the field with four wide receivers. And 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:56.360 it's just I think there's a lot of possibilities that 0:09:56.440 --> 0:09:57.280 Josh can play with. 0:09:57.280 --> 0:10:00.400 Exactly power to go with a J. Brown as the 0:10:00.440 --> 0:10:02.400 loan receiver and then the two tight ends and the 0:10:02.400 --> 0:10:05.400 full back. I mean, now you're talking my language. That's 0:10:05.400 --> 0:10:07.960 my kind of party. Like you run the ball attention, 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:10.120 did a homework, You run the ball out of that 0:10:10.360 --> 0:10:13.840 and you run it effectively to play action present you know, 0:10:13.880 --> 0:10:16.040 the way that you're presenting to the defense. The play 0:10:16.080 --> 0:10:19.400 action opportunities are going to just be unbelievable. I mean, 0:10:20.080 --> 0:10:23.400 that's a really effective package. And I like goal line, 0:10:23.440 --> 0:10:27.000 short yardage situations, close out games, like, I really feel 0:10:27.000 --> 0:10:30.240 like that has a package opportunity to be really fun. 0:10:30.559 --> 0:10:32.600 And they've used Hollins a little bit in there too, 0:10:32.840 --> 0:10:35.079 and some of those looks. I mean, they can get big, 0:10:35.320 --> 0:10:37.640 like they they can really get big and play bullyball 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:38.840 and run some people over. 0:10:39.480 --> 0:10:41.960 Yeah, I was the point I was about to make, 0:10:42.000 --> 0:10:43.200 and yesterday that it was the one thing I was 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:44.960 just tracking. You know, what's the personnel? How are they 0:10:44.960 --> 0:10:48.240 matching it on on defense? And I mean, like you said, Paul, not, 0:10:48.360 --> 0:10:50.040 I'm not going to get into the specifics because I 0:10:50.040 --> 0:10:52.160 don't think they want. Yeah, but they have so many 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:54.120 different things that you're going to have to prepare for. 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:56.280 You're going to have to prepare for a spread offense 0:10:56.320 --> 0:10:58.360 with no tight ends. You're gonna have to prepare for 0:10:58.640 --> 0:11:02.240 two backs, one pony package with running backs, a full back. 0:11:02.280 --> 0:11:04.240 I mean, he's got so many different tools. But the 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:06.640 thing I found myself wondering is Seattle is a team 0:11:06.679 --> 0:11:09.400 that wants to basically just stay in nickel, right, So 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:11.920 is this going to be effective? Like and especially with 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:13.760 you know, we talked about Emon Worri. Maybe he's going 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:16.200 to be ready to go for week one. You know, 0:11:16.240 --> 0:11:18.400 do you like, how do you do this with is 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:22.320 like strategically we're running through all these different personnel. Is 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:24.960 that going to be effective if Seattle's just going to say, okay, 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:27.040 do all your changing, We're just gonna stay in this group. 0:11:27.080 --> 0:11:29.040 You know, I wonder what the game plan is. I 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:30.640 think in the perfect world, you want to get them 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:32.800 out of Nickel and have them play bass and so 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:34.280 you can get gilling him on the field and try 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:36.200 to run on them. But at the same time, are 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:37.800 they just gonna sit there watching you change all this 0:11:37.840 --> 0:11:39.719 personnel going like that's great, We're just gonna stay. 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:43.760 And maybe maybe his injury, maybe even worry is you know, status, 0:11:43.800 --> 0:11:46.880 even if he's ready to play, maybe his status will 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:48.600 not allow every what they want to do. 0:11:48.679 --> 0:11:51.160 You know, Yeah, you got to you gotta be able 0:11:51.200 --> 0:11:53.560 to run the ball on Seattle, and it's hard, Like 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:56.040 they have great run defenders and they play a man 0:11:56.080 --> 0:11:57.719 short in the box and they figure it out with 0:11:58.160 --> 0:12:00.520 the penetrations and the stunts that they run upfront and 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:03.120 all that kind of stuff. But like to answer your question, Duse, 0:12:03.160 --> 0:12:05.959 I don't think that it's hockey lines of like we're 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:07.560 gonna change all. I think that they want to go 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:10.000 big against Seattle. And I think if you're gonna play 0:12:10.040 --> 0:12:12.680 a nickel and even though it's not traditional nickel with Seattle, 0:12:12.720 --> 0:12:14.800 they play a lot of three safety nickel, if you're 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:17.240 gonna play nickel, like we're gonna put the full back 0:12:17.280 --> 0:12:19.120 on the field, You're going to have your two high 0:12:19.160 --> 0:12:21.600 safety shells and all your defensive backs and all your 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:24.680 fancy pressures and all that kind of stuff, and we're 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:26.439 just gonna stay out a third and long. And I 0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:28.160 think that top of the Drake may that was the 0:12:28.160 --> 0:12:30.160 biggest thing about the Super Bowl that he keeps going 0:12:30.200 --> 0:12:32.280 back on is that we were in third and ten 0:12:32.360 --> 0:12:34.559 the entire game. And when you're in third and ten 0:12:34.600 --> 0:12:36.680 against a defense like that and a coach like that, 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:39.920 he's just sending pressure at you from all different places 0:12:40.120 --> 0:12:42.160 and it becomes hard to diagnose, and that's when you 0:12:42.160 --> 0:12:44.840 get the negative plays. I think they want to be 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:47.439 better on first down this time around against Seattle, and 0:12:47.440 --> 0:12:51.560 I think they think going with a heavier offense and 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:54.840 heavier personnel will allow them to maybe run the ball 0:12:54.880 --> 0:12:58.720 more effectively against Seattle's nickel. Now, Seattle stopped the run 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:00.840 really well last year out of that look, So I 0:13:00.840 --> 0:13:03.319 don't know if it'll work, but you can see the 0:13:03.679 --> 0:13:06.600 method to it. I really feel like that was what 0:13:06.679 --> 0:13:09.640 was missing from their offense last year, was like truly 0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:13.000 being able to run the ball effectively and being able 0:13:13.040 --> 0:13:15.200 to play some bully ball. You know, they get into 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:18.720 the offense at last year it's three wide receivers eighty 0:13:18.760 --> 0:13:20.760 five percent of the time. Eighty percent of the time. 0:13:20.840 --> 0:13:24.240 It's not a very effective, efficient running game. So I 0:13:24.280 --> 0:13:26.840 think that they're trying to avoid that all over again 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:27.400 this season. 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:29.319 Yeah, i'd say the other thing too. I mean talk 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:32.600 a lot about Drake year two in this system, becoming 0:13:32.720 --> 0:13:35.560 you know, the pre snap mastermind and getting his team 0:13:35.600 --> 0:13:37.920 into the right position. I think that's been a work 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:41.040 in progress. I don't think that that's been a stunning 0:13:41.080 --> 0:13:43.800 success here so far. And it just made me pump 0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:46.760 the brakes a little bit on remembering Bill Belichick saying 0:13:46.760 --> 0:13:49.080 it really wasn't until two thousand and three where he 0:13:49.120 --> 0:13:51.480 really felt like Brady settled in and really was at 0:13:51.520 --> 0:13:53.720 full control of the offense. So you know, maybe my 0:13:53.840 --> 0:13:55.679 expectations were a little high for Drake. I mean, I 0:13:55.720 --> 0:13:57.440 think they need to be I think he needs to 0:13:57.440 --> 0:14:00.439 be better. But there's been a few instances throughout training 0:14:00.440 --> 0:14:03.480 camp consistently where it's like here they come and it 0:14:03.480 --> 0:14:05.839 didn't seem like they had answers for it. Yesterday was 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:08.240 a good example where you know, the ball Nober said 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:09.800 they didn't get there, but it looked close. With the 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:11.960 Remandre dump off, they brought a you know, a zero 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:13.880 blitz and he got it off to Romondre Quick and 0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:14.439 it was a good game. 0:14:14.520 --> 0:14:16.920 It was a great play. But but but Mike and 0:14:16.960 --> 0:14:19.200 I del Pettis came right up the middle and he 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:22.040 just kind of stopped once he got into sort of 0:14:22.040 --> 0:14:25.560 the pocket. And I do wonder was that because they 0:14:25.560 --> 0:14:27.200 had him snuffed out and they don't want to they 0:14:27.240 --> 0:14:29.520 want to make sure they're not, you know, pushing guys 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:32.160 back into Drake. There was a play earlier in the 0:14:32.640 --> 0:14:34.440 one of the sets. I think it was like the 0:14:34.520 --> 0:14:35.920 very last set. I think it might have been third 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:38.320 down plays, but they just ran the ball and he 0:14:38.400 --> 0:14:40.120 kind of got stepped on, and you know, I just 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:42.160 don't want anybody to around the quarterback. You've seen these 0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:44.760 clips and people around the league no piles, you know, 0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:48.160 so you just wonder did they have that snuffed out 0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:52.360 or did del Pettis wisely choose to pull back and 0:14:52.400 --> 0:14:55.240 not create sort of congestion. 0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:56.760 It's what I'm going to be looking for as we 0:14:56.760 --> 0:14:58.560 get into the season is how often do we see 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:00.880 Drake go to the line and go you know Brady 0:15:00.960 --> 0:15:03.920 used to do and be like who WHOA He pulls back, 0:15:04.200 --> 0:15:06.040 He motions these guys out there all of a sudden, 0:15:06.080 --> 0:15:08.920 they've they've gone from twenty one personnel to a spread offense. 0:15:09.160 --> 0:15:11.200 And he's going to run host juke because he knows 0:15:11.200 --> 0:15:13.240 that you know, like that kind of stuff. You know, 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:19.040 that was fore the coverage dictor right right, you know 0:15:19.080 --> 0:15:19.800 what I'm talking about. 0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:22.800 You know, Jason the other day they started cracking up. 0:15:23.760 --> 0:15:24.560 It's hard for us. 0:15:24.440 --> 0:15:26.920 To tell exactly when he's you know, having to be 0:15:26.960 --> 0:15:28.960 in his bag, and you know, I just think that, 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:31.560 to me is the biggest step for this offense is 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:34.000 if he fully becomes in control of that and just 0:15:34.080 --> 0:15:38.240 has that calm presence pre snap to understand. You know, 0:15:38.320 --> 0:15:40.080 sometimes I feel like he gets and I think this 0:15:40.200 --> 0:15:42.320 was kind of the super Bowl he gets rolling a 0:15:42.320 --> 0:15:45.360 little bit and he gets caught up instead of being patient, 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:48.160 calm each snap, identifying what they're doing and trying to counter. 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:50.720 No, we might get a little glimpse of that tomorrow 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:51.640 and Thursday. Yeah. 0:15:52.360 --> 0:15:55.080 Well, I thought Vrabel's comment was interesting too, of you 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:57.320 know yesterday saying that, you know, colesdon't do anything in 0:15:57.360 --> 0:15:58.920 the game, but in the joint practice they were, they 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:00.600 were throwing some stuff at him. So I think it's 0:16:00.760 --> 0:16:04.000 you know, just on us to watch that a little closer, because, 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:06.400 like you said, Fred, that'll be opportunities for him tomorrow, moving. 0:16:06.320 --> 0:16:07.880 To the other side of the ball. Good to see 0:16:07.960 --> 0:16:10.560 Christian Barmore back in the mix yesterday. 0:16:10.240 --> 0:16:11.120 Working his way back in. 0:16:11.320 --> 0:16:11.680 Yeah. 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:13.840 Yeah, he did some of the one on one stuff, 0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:16.400 the individual drills, position drills. 0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:17.720 Still no team for him. 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:18.640 He was out there for team. 0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:20.040 Yeah, he had like one or two snaps. 0:16:20.040 --> 0:16:21.280 Oh I missed him. I didn't see him. 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:22.040 It was very. 0:16:21.920 --> 0:16:24.160 Sparingly, but yeah, it was only for a few but 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:24.880 he came out there. 0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:27.880 Just I mean, at this point of the season, he's around. 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:29.800 He's not going to be gone. He'll probably be ready 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:31.160 for a week one. That's all I really care. 0:16:31.320 --> 0:16:34.040 It does make it a little hard to the defense though, 0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:37.880 you know, the joint practice you're missing Davis, Gonzalez and Barmore. 0:16:38.240 --> 0:16:42.040 Now you're missing Barmore and Gonzalez and Davis is kind 0:16:42.040 --> 0:16:44.160 of maybe a little bit behind and trying to get 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:46.480 back into shape and all that kind of stuff. So 0:16:46.560 --> 0:16:48.359 I don't think we've seen the full. 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:51.320 Even though, like Charles Woods has been banged up a 0:16:51.320 --> 0:16:53.760 little bit, just coming back off of something that caused 0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:55.880 him miss a couple of days. Yeah, and then he 0:16:55.920 --> 0:16:58.200 was in a red jersey for a day, So yeah, 0:16:58.240 --> 0:17:01.640 there's you know that the defense hasn't been at full strength. 0:17:01.640 --> 0:17:03.400 I would say that for the most part, the defense 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:05.320 has been better than the offense throughout camp. 0:17:05.720 --> 0:17:07.679 But I think they'll you know, you're starting to see a. 0:17:07.680 --> 0:17:10.680 Little bit of that turn, and I think it's probably 0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:12.360 has at least something to do with personnel. 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:15.880 Yeah, yeah, I think my small sea concern has pivoted 0:17:15.920 --> 0:17:18.879 to the pass rush now versus it was with Romeo 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:22.640 Dobbs and the new receivers. I Rabel mentioned it at 0:17:22.680 --> 0:17:24.760 about the joint practice that you know, he says they 0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:26.800 don't affect the quarterback enough. You know, they didn't put 0:17:26.880 --> 0:17:30.320 enough pressure on Daniel Jones and that joint practice, and 0:17:30.600 --> 0:17:33.040 I just they don't have a lot of one on 0:17:33.040 --> 0:17:35.720 one winners up front, especially on the edge. So they're 0:17:35.760 --> 0:17:37.679 gonna have to do it with scheme and they're going 0:17:37.760 --> 0:17:40.480 to have to get creative. And you know, if the 0:17:40.520 --> 0:17:43.720 corner of Gonzales isn't out there, then you don't have 0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:46.080 the corners to send the house, you know, you know, 0:17:46.080 --> 0:17:49.600 you don't have the corners to play that kind of right, 0:17:49.680 --> 0:17:52.040 So you have to have you know, that's a big 0:17:52.080 --> 0:17:54.480 part of it. And I do want to see against 0:17:54.480 --> 0:17:57.640 the Eagles. I think the pockets for the Patriots offensive 0:17:57.640 --> 0:18:00.440 line have actually been pretty good for most the camp. 0:18:01.240 --> 0:18:04.119 And how much of that is the offensive line has 0:18:04.160 --> 0:18:06.320 improved a lot, and how much of that is that 0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:08.399 the pass rush ain is so good? Right, And you 0:18:08.440 --> 0:18:10.400 know that will find out over the course of time. 0:18:10.440 --> 0:18:12.640 But you know, with the blitzes and stuff that they've 0:18:12.680 --> 0:18:16.840 been running, I wonder if they are pivoting their their 0:18:16.920 --> 0:18:19.239 way to solve those problems a little bit. And we 0:18:19.240 --> 0:18:21.720 were talking about this a little bit off offline. Duce 0:18:21.800 --> 0:18:25.840 like to expect any quarterback to be Brady to come 0:18:25.880 --> 0:18:28.600 to the line of scrimmage and sniff out a pressure 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:31.240 by the defense and know exactly how to move his 0:18:31.320 --> 0:18:34.639 pieces around to get the pressure blocked and all this. 0:18:35.119 --> 0:18:37.840 I wonder if maybe they are trying to simplify some 0:18:37.960 --> 0:18:40.440 of that type of stuff for May and just because 0:18:40.480 --> 0:18:42.879 he's kind of just a guy that wants to just play, 0:18:42.960 --> 0:18:44.560 you know, and to come to the line of scrimmage 0:18:44.560 --> 0:18:48.040 and have all these responsibilities on the quarterback. I feel 0:18:48.040 --> 0:18:49.880 like they might be throwing hot a little bit more 0:18:49.920 --> 0:18:52.439 this year versus like, well, they're gonna try to block it. 0:18:52.880 --> 0:18:56.359 So like the Remandre play yesterday, we know they're coming, 0:18:56.720 --> 0:18:58.480 but we're just gonna sneak the running back out of 0:18:58.520 --> 0:19:00.639 the backfield behind the blitz and and just dump it 0:19:00.680 --> 0:19:03.600 off to the back instead of you go over here, 0:19:03.680 --> 0:19:05.720 and you go over there, and you've got this guy 0:19:05.800 --> 0:19:08.200 and you're blocking that guy, and you know, it becomes 0:19:08.200 --> 0:19:10.359 a whole, you know sort of thing at pre snap 0:19:10.359 --> 0:19:13.040 where you're just deciding everything. But the pass rush, I 0:19:13.080 --> 0:19:15.680 think is one thing that we've all kind of had 0:19:15.720 --> 0:19:18.760 our turn being concerned about. And you know, I don't 0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:21.119 know if there's we got to see more of that. 0:19:21.800 --> 0:19:24.080 Are we allowed to report on that little kind of 0:19:24.080 --> 0:19:26.440 wrinkle that Rable threw into practice yesterday. 0:19:26.600 --> 0:19:27.960 Well, we did it in the in the in the 0:19:28.000 --> 0:19:28.800 camp cast I. 0:19:29.800 --> 0:19:32.639 Scheme, Like, I don't say that wasn't wasn't it was 0:19:32.720 --> 0:19:36.399 diff competitive, you know, it was, so describe what you saw. 0:19:36.560 --> 0:19:39.240 So it began, as I guess, within the structure of 0:19:39.240 --> 0:19:41.639 a special teams drill with you know, gunners and vices 0:19:41.680 --> 0:19:44.439 going against each other, and specifically you know, usually this 0:19:44.520 --> 0:19:46.880 drill happens on the side and everybody's kind of doing 0:19:46.920 --> 0:19:49.600 other things. This was where this drill took center stage 0:19:49.600 --> 0:19:52.560 for the whole team and you had specifically players who 0:19:52.600 --> 0:19:55.600 are I would call depth players competing for roles right now, 0:19:55.840 --> 0:19:57.800 Like you know, let's put them out there in front 0:19:57.800 --> 0:20:00.399 of the whole team and put that on on stage 0:20:00.480 --> 0:20:02.080 and let them go. And so you saw, you know, 0:20:02.119 --> 0:20:05.159 guys like Akis and you know, Tanner. 0:20:04.960 --> 0:20:07.600 Arcandes and just to set the scene, the whole team 0:20:08.000 --> 0:20:09.919 is behind the play on the field. They're not on 0:20:09.960 --> 0:20:14.280 the sideline. Defense isn't separated from offense. They're all together 0:20:14.440 --> 0:20:15.200 behind the play. 0:20:15.240 --> 0:20:17.520 Yeah, so you'll just you know, you'd see one gunner 0:20:17.560 --> 0:20:19.720 line up inside and you'd have two vice guys over 0:20:19.800 --> 0:20:22.000 him and he would try to get off those blocks 0:20:22.000 --> 0:20:23.920 and split them and get up field. And I think 0:20:23.920 --> 0:20:25.639 they had two cones too, so it seemed like, you know, 0:20:25.640 --> 0:20:28.399 they're trying to stay up the middle to get up 0:20:28.480 --> 0:20:32.600 and cover the punt. But just an overall really competitive 0:20:32.640 --> 0:20:35.040 drill that I thought it was almost reminded me of some 0:20:35.080 --> 0:20:36.720 of the field goal stuff that they've done at times 0:20:36.760 --> 0:20:38.679 where they gather everybody around to try to psych them 0:20:38.680 --> 0:20:41.280 out a little bit. It felt like that kind of pressure. 0:20:41.359 --> 0:20:43.720 But didn't it morphine to beyond special teams. 0:20:43.760 --> 0:20:43.960 Yeah? 0:20:44.040 --> 0:20:47.240 Yeah, So I would call it a deconstructed eleven on eleven, 0:20:47.359 --> 0:20:50.320 like you know how, and like cooking, like you have 0:20:50.359 --> 0:20:52.520 a deconstructed dish or it's the dish, but it's all 0:20:52.520 --> 0:20:55.280 in a million different parts. So like they put the 0:20:55.400 --> 0:20:59.280 eleven guys out there, but instead of running the drill 0:20:59.320 --> 0:21:02.200 in unison. At first, it started the wide receiver in 0:21:02.240 --> 0:21:04.639 the corner went, then the tight end and the and 0:21:04.720 --> 0:21:07.160 the edge rusher went, then the tackle and the edge 0:21:07.200 --> 0:21:09.720 rusher went, then the linebacker and the running back went, 0:21:09.960 --> 0:21:12.320 and then the tight end went against a linebacker, you know, 0:21:12.440 --> 0:21:14.760 running a route, and it was like like you were 0:21:14.800 --> 0:21:17.439 running a team drill, but each guy took their turn 0:21:17.760 --> 0:21:20.200 instead of it being run together, and so it was 0:21:20.280 --> 0:21:23.639 kind of like a way to spotlight each individual player 0:21:23.960 --> 0:21:26.359 right as it went along. And it was it was 0:21:26.400 --> 0:21:27.880 pretty cool. I'd never seen anything like that. 0:21:28.080 --> 0:21:30.080 And I think it added a lot of energy yes 0:21:30.400 --> 0:21:32.040 to the time and you know, you know, and talking 0:21:32.080 --> 0:21:34.520 to some of the guys. Corey Durton talked about it afterwards, 0:21:34.520 --> 0:21:36.800 and you know, he did say, it's just like and 0:21:36.840 --> 0:21:38.840 I think it's one of those things. It was, you know, 0:21:38.960 --> 0:21:41.840 date seventeen, right, they were in pads. I think for 0:21:41.920 --> 0:21:46.120 the tenth time yesterday, it can be a little bit 0:21:46.160 --> 0:21:48.280 of all right, you know, we've done this enough. There's 0:21:48.320 --> 0:21:51.080 like a monotonous, you know, element to what's going on. 0:21:51.160 --> 0:21:53.720 And I think Mike might have recognized that a little 0:21:53.760 --> 0:21:56.679 bit and threw a wrinkle in and I think it 0:21:56.720 --> 0:21:59.080 did pick people up. And then after that is when 0:21:59.080 --> 0:22:02.160 they got into they had a quick seven on seven 0:22:02.160 --> 0:22:04.399 and then they did like three full periods of eleven 0:22:04.440 --> 0:22:06.600 on the level. It was like first down work, third 0:22:06.640 --> 0:22:08.840 down work, and then the like the two minute drill. 0:22:08.960 --> 0:22:10.960 So it was there was a lot of stuff that 0:22:11.000 --> 0:22:13.440 happened after that, and I think that kind of raised everybody. 0:22:13.560 --> 0:22:14.320 Yeah, Durton said. 0:22:14.359 --> 0:22:17.359 It was great, like great opportunities for us young guys 0:22:17.359 --> 0:22:19.879 to get out there and in the spotlight with the 0:22:19.880 --> 0:22:22.119 whole team watching, and it added some juice. 0:22:22.200 --> 0:22:23.200 Yeah, it was fun to watch. 0:22:23.200 --> 0:22:25.840 The team became audience and they cheered. 0:22:25.480 --> 0:22:30.399 And yet strongly to like like Caleb Lomu did a 0:22:30.480 --> 0:22:33.560 nice job against Dakas and the offense was really whooping 0:22:33.600 --> 0:22:35.600 it up. Then the defense wins one I think it 0:22:35.720 --> 0:22:40.520 was Riley Wilson really got the better of land Larisson 0:22:40.600 --> 0:22:43.119 on a blitz and then the defense is going crazy. 0:22:43.160 --> 0:22:46.399 So I do think it added something, added some stakes 0:22:46.440 --> 0:22:46.679 to it. 0:22:46.680 --> 0:22:49.600 It was almost like a rap battle. Matt Morell would 0:22:49.640 --> 0:22:52.280 like that, you know. Yeah, like two guys to game 0:22:52.359 --> 0:22:54.840 and everyone's gathered around and they're cheered, you know, but 0:22:55.200 --> 0:22:55.720 you've been like. 0:22:55.640 --> 0:22:57.239 If you've been to even more of these camps than 0:22:57.280 --> 0:22:58.800 I have, do you ever remember seeing that? 0:22:58.920 --> 0:22:59.040 No. 0:22:59.480 --> 0:23:01.359 The only thing I recall that I. 0:23:01.560 --> 0:23:03.640 Was similar as they do it at the Senior Bowl. 0:23:03.920 --> 0:23:06.240 At the end of the practice. They pulled the whole 0:23:06.280 --> 0:23:08.159 team in the middle of the field and they do 0:23:08.240 --> 0:23:12.560 a wide receiver, corner, tight end, safety, pass rusher tackle 0:23:12.840 --> 0:23:15.919 and usually it's like guys projected to go in like 0:23:15.960 --> 0:23:19.960 the first two rounds, Like, yeah, the real like highly 0:23:20.040 --> 0:23:23.040 rated guys that are at the practice. I remember a 0:23:23.040 --> 0:23:24.600 couple of years ago, I want, I think I have 0:23:24.640 --> 0:23:27.119 it right. I think it was Quinnon Mitchell and Roman 0:23:27.160 --> 0:23:29.879 Wilson and it was like two guys that were just 0:23:29.960 --> 0:23:32.280 kind of the players of practice and two you know, 0:23:32.440 --> 0:23:35.080 players projected to go high. The whole team comes into 0:23:35.119 --> 0:23:36.879 the middle of the field and it is it's like 0:23:36.920 --> 0:23:39.280 a rap battle. It's like you your guy versus our 0:23:39.320 --> 0:23:42.679 guy type of thing, but not in a not in 0:23:42.720 --> 0:23:45.200 a training camp practice. Like that's the only other time 0:23:45.240 --> 0:23:45.760 I can think. 0:23:45.680 --> 0:23:47.760 Of it that happened to me. In high school. Oh, 0:23:47.800 --> 0:23:50.320 we were a rap battle and kind of. So I 0:23:50.359 --> 0:23:52.760 walked onto my high school team because I played soccer 0:23:52.840 --> 0:23:53.920 my first two years. 0:23:53.720 --> 0:23:55.840 And you didn't get a scholarship if you had a walk. 0:23:55.840 --> 0:23:58.280 I was walk on in high school, and uh and 0:23:58.680 --> 0:24:01.359 and so Billy Waylee and you know, I was going 0:24:01.400 --> 0:24:03.840 to be a running back and he was like, you 0:24:03.880 --> 0:24:07.040 can't play, blah blah blah. So after practice they set 0:24:07.080 --> 0:24:09.520 up pylons, they gave me the ball and I had 0:24:09.560 --> 0:24:12.920 to go run by him five times. And everyone gathered 0:24:12.960 --> 0:24:15.760 around and no, no problem. 0:24:16.480 --> 0:24:17.440 All five times. 0:24:17.600 --> 0:24:20.199 It got to the point where in time it was 0:24:20.280 --> 0:24:23.840 just like he was he was just so demoralized. I 0:24:23.880 --> 0:24:24.760 could do whatever I want. 0:24:24.760 --> 0:24:26.280 What was your Were you going around him? Were you 0:24:26.359 --> 0:24:27.000 jum out? 0:24:27.200 --> 0:24:29.479 I could do whatever I wanted as long as it 0:24:29.520 --> 0:24:31.320 was as long as they had the ball in my 0:24:31.440 --> 0:24:34.320 hand and I was between the pylons. So the first 0:24:34.320 --> 0:24:37.320 time I tried to go around him, he got a 0:24:37.320 --> 0:24:39.720 hold of me, but I got through by the then 0:24:39.880 --> 0:24:42.760 I try to power move once that work and then 0:24:43.080 --> 0:24:46.560 and then it was just like, Okay, I got this. 0:24:47.040 --> 0:24:50.879 I got They do that thrill almost every practice where 0:24:51.160 --> 0:24:54.560 it's you know, one defensive player one offensive player. They 0:24:54.600 --> 0:24:56.639 have the cone, so you have to stay within like 0:24:56.680 --> 0:25:00.600 a ten yard five yard box and it's just one 0:25:00.640 --> 0:25:02.760 on one and usually they don't tackle to the ground. 0:25:02.840 --> 0:25:05.600 It's just like angles and like taking the right set 0:25:05.680 --> 0:25:08.639 up into the tackle on the hip hop. Yeah, but 0:25:08.680 --> 0:25:10.760 I mean last year, like when we're out at practice 0:25:10.800 --> 0:25:13.880 during the regular season, that's the only drill we ever 0:25:13.880 --> 0:25:16.880 get to watch usually, and it's like every day they 0:25:16.920 --> 0:25:19.480 do it like that drill, you know, pursue drill. So 0:25:19.840 --> 0:25:20.960 it's pretty so he. 0:25:21.000 --> 0:25:24.400 Was so demoralized Matt Morrell after he became a marine, 0:25:25.119 --> 0:25:28.080 so he had enough. I pushed him into the Marines. 0:25:28.160 --> 0:25:29.159 A good thing. You didn't have to do it. 0:25:29.200 --> 0:25:30.399 I don't even know what to say about that. You 0:25:30.440 --> 0:25:31.600 probably ruined that guy's like. 0:25:32.640 --> 0:25:40.720 He's not tking that part of Matt's less. That's like 0:25:40.760 --> 0:25:42.159 he's got something so good to say, and he's got 0:25:42.200 --> 0:25:43.159 a big smile, and you don't know what. 0:25:43.200 --> 0:25:45.359 You probably ruined that guy's life. 0:25:47.320 --> 0:25:50.480 He's really growing in that beard though, big big beer. 0:25:51.000 --> 0:25:53.320 It really kind of like it. She doesn't like it. 0:25:53.720 --> 0:25:53.920 Fan. 0:25:54.920 --> 0:25:57.160 Did you ever see Matt's like to hear from Mats 0:25:57.200 --> 0:25:58.120 like Matt's picture on. 0:26:01.000 --> 0:26:02.359 The rest of the people can hear me? Just you 0:26:02.400 --> 0:26:02.800 guys in there? 0:26:02.880 --> 0:26:02.960 Ki? 0:26:03.359 --> 0:26:05.359 Okay, so you probably ruined that guy's like making them 0:26:05.440 --> 0:26:06.000 joined the Marines. 0:26:06.280 --> 0:26:09.080 Ah, I think I think it was all good. 0:26:10.160 --> 0:26:10.480 Okay. 0:26:10.760 --> 0:26:12.040 Also, the beer's going away this week. 0:26:12.119 --> 0:26:14.159 Yeah, So anyway to wrap it up, that was a 0:26:14.160 --> 0:26:16.119 cool thing to watch. I agree, I've never seen it 0:26:16.160 --> 0:26:18.920 before and over thirty years, at least at this level. 0:26:19.680 --> 0:26:21.480 Maybe they do it in college a lot, I don't know. 0:26:21.560 --> 0:26:24.800 And you know, as Evin said, he saw something similar 0:26:25.320 --> 0:26:27.560 at some of the All Star Games. 0:26:27.720 --> 0:26:29.200 I think we all kind of felt the same way, 0:26:29.200 --> 0:26:32.000 where you're getting to practice seventeen and you're seeing some 0:26:32.040 --> 0:26:34.040 of the same plays and you're seeing, you know, some 0:26:34.080 --> 0:26:35.880 of the now they're starting to counter off of those plays, 0:26:35.920 --> 0:26:38.480 but everybody, including those watching it or it's kind of 0:26:38.480 --> 0:26:41.040 like doldrums a little bit. That felt like it broke 0:26:41.080 --> 0:26:42.520 it up a little bit, and then you had pretty 0:26:42.520 --> 0:26:43.800 competitive end to the practice. 0:26:44.200 --> 0:26:47.280 We did have a transaction yesterday that we should talk about. Yeah, 0:26:47.480 --> 0:26:49.800 kind of tells you where Ben Brown is. 0:26:50.040 --> 0:26:53.080 Yeah, yeah, yeah, grate Van Rotten Rotin Roten. 0:26:53.119 --> 0:26:56.000 I'm interested to see if why is he available? He 0:26:56.040 --> 0:26:57.160 was a starter last so. 0:26:57.400 --> 0:26:59.800 He's an eleven year veteran and my guess is that 0:26:59.800 --> 0:27:02.320 he's had options but doesn't want to do training camp, 0:27:02.720 --> 0:27:06.360 so headed around and Keidan Allen did the same thing 0:27:06.400 --> 0:27:07.280 in Indianapolis. 0:27:07.480 --> 0:27:08.679 But why was he available? 0:27:09.720 --> 0:27:11.960 Why was he available? Well, I don't know if he 0:27:12.080 --> 0:27:15.280 was available, Like I think he probably had options and 0:27:15.359 --> 0:27:16.080 just waited. 0:27:15.760 --> 0:27:17.760 The Okay, so you think he had offers and he 0:27:17.840 --> 0:27:20.679 was just kind of rolling him over. Why do you 0:27:20.680 --> 0:27:21.520 think he took ours? 0:27:22.720 --> 0:27:23.440 It's a good team. 0:27:24.160 --> 0:27:26.240 Well, it's a good question. Because there's not an immediate 0:27:26.240 --> 0:27:30.560 hole in terms of starting. But you know, he's been 0:27:31.000 --> 0:27:33.920 a starter last year, two years really for the Giants, 0:27:33.920 --> 0:27:36.239 that started every game for the Giants last year at 0:27:36.280 --> 0:27:39.920 right guard. He's played mostly guard in the NFL. He 0:27:39.960 --> 0:27:42.720 did play center in the CFL, so he has played 0:27:42.720 --> 0:27:45.800 a little bit of center as well. But he's considered 0:27:45.840 --> 0:27:49.439 to be functional, you know, serviceable player, you know, not 0:27:49.760 --> 0:27:53.400 not a star or anything like that, obviously, but somebody 0:27:53.440 --> 0:27:57.040 that can be a lot reliable backup. Now. I haven't 0:27:57.200 --> 0:27:59.320 seen them play a ton of center in the NFL, 0:27:59.720 --> 0:28:03.000 so Ben Brown plays the center and guard. So see 0:28:03.000 --> 0:28:04.760 if you know, when they get him into practice, if 0:28:04.760 --> 0:28:08.280 he's snapping and things like that. But they definitely needed 0:28:08.480 --> 0:28:11.280 if they weren't going to kick Lomu inside and try 0:28:11.320 --> 0:28:13.639 that out at all, they needed somebody that was going 0:28:13.680 --> 0:28:15.000 to be a service Ben. 0:28:14.880 --> 0:28:16.840 Brown was your super sub inside. 0:28:17.119 --> 0:28:19.560 Yeah, and even here I thought it was having kind 0:28:19.600 --> 0:28:20.639 of an up and down camp. 0:28:20.800 --> 0:28:21.159 Yeah. 0:28:21.200 --> 0:28:24.280 So I think that this is a little bit of bolt. 0:28:24.320 --> 0:28:25.639 I think it's a little bit of a push for 0:28:25.720 --> 0:28:27.920 Ben Brown once he does get back, and I think 0:28:27.920 --> 0:28:31.000 it's also so that they can keep Lomu attack. 0:28:30.680 --> 0:28:33.639 And I do agree with you about the center element 0:28:33.680 --> 0:28:35.600 of it, because I think the value of Brown is, 0:28:35.640 --> 0:28:38.080 you know, he can play center, and I'm not sure 0:28:38.160 --> 0:28:40.320 that you know, like James Hudson's been playing a lot 0:28:40.320 --> 0:28:42.480 of guard, and I think they could probably get by 0:28:42.560 --> 0:28:44.800 with him as a reserve guard, although I don't think 0:28:44.800 --> 0:28:46.280 he played all that well against the Colts. 0:28:46.280 --> 0:28:47.480 I would say, I don't know about. 0:28:47.240 --> 0:28:51.280 That, but you know, he's never played center, so you 0:28:51.440 --> 0:28:54.440 do need someone to be able to be the center 0:28:54.480 --> 0:28:57.680 in case something happens to Jared Wilson and if Brown, 0:28:57.880 --> 0:28:59.920 you know, and I would say the way that my 0:29:00.200 --> 0:29:04.800 sounded on Mike Rabel sounded on Saturday, I wouldn't expect 0:29:04.840 --> 0:29:08.680 to see Ben Brown before the preseason's over, So there's 0:29:08.680 --> 0:29:13.560 probably an element of necessity. I mean that said, like 0:29:14.560 --> 0:29:16.840 I'm with Mike, Mike and I talk about this, I'm like, 0:29:16.920 --> 0:29:19.200 you know, just think about how far you've progressed where 0:29:19.800 --> 0:29:23.960 you know, your lack of depth, you know, at the 0:29:24.000 --> 0:29:27.680 guard position is like suddenly becoming an area of national concern, 0:29:27.840 --> 0:29:29.880 like you would have thought that they they signed like 0:29:31.240 --> 0:29:34.120 John Hannah yesterday. The way that people were reacting on Twitter, 0:29:34.240 --> 0:29:38.600 I think was reaction. I mean I'm like, is this. 0:29:38.520 --> 0:29:40.520 Really I thought he was being sarcastic. 0:29:40.560 --> 0:29:43.160 No, I don't know he was, I think and I 0:29:43.160 --> 0:29:46.280 don't think he was alone among the media corps. And again, 0:29:46.360 --> 0:29:49.360 I recognize everything that we're talking about, I recognize as 0:29:49.400 --> 0:29:53.520 being valid, Like Ben Brown was a valuable guy because 0:29:53.520 --> 0:29:55.760 he can back up those three spots on the inside, 0:29:55.760 --> 0:29:58.960 and you lost him, someone else will. 0:29:58.720 --> 0:30:01.720 Do it, Like it's if someone else will do. 0:30:03.360 --> 0:30:03.520 Well. 0:30:03.800 --> 0:30:06.320 I think the one thing that is, you know, it's 0:30:06.480 --> 0:30:09.840 my big deal is that Veritucker has an extensive injury history. 0:30:10.200 --> 0:30:12.080 So ver Tucker gets hurt. 0:30:11.960 --> 0:30:14.800 And do you feel like any better if he goes 0:30:15.000 --> 0:30:15.800 if he gets hurt? Not? 0:30:16.000 --> 0:30:19.000 Like, I don't I feel better about Van Roten than 0:30:19.160 --> 0:30:21.040 James Hudson or Andrew. 0:30:21.600 --> 0:30:26.000 Or okay now Andrews Makaie Butler. I feel better with 0:30:26.120 --> 0:30:27.000 the NFL guys. 0:30:27.480 --> 0:30:29.120 Like I'm not trying to better. 0:30:28.960 --> 0:30:30.440 Than Hudson, doesn't matter. 0:30:31.200 --> 0:30:36.479 I like Van Hudson was playing. Hudson was playing against 0:30:36.480 --> 0:30:38.880 backups in the preseason game on Thursday night and was 0:30:38.880 --> 0:30:39.440 getting torn. 0:30:39.800 --> 0:30:45.000 Road is the starter in this yeah, just just not 0:30:45.080 --> 0:30:45.959 a good one. 0:30:46.000 --> 0:30:49.240 So last year was is he a starter? Did he 0:30:49.320 --> 0:30:49.680 start game? 0:30:49.960 --> 0:30:53.720 He's a tackle is the different way, so then, but 0:30:53.760 --> 0:30:57.000 he's not even I would rather not do that. 0:30:57.080 --> 0:31:01.719 But I think the biggest question mark is the biggest 0:31:01.760 --> 0:31:04.840 question mark is is center? You know backup center that 0:31:05.720 --> 0:31:06.400 I would agree with. 0:31:06.480 --> 0:31:09.640 You have to have someone beyond Jacob Ritzzi. If something 0:31:09.680 --> 0:31:12.200 were to happen, I would expect that ven Ruin is 0:31:12.200 --> 0:31:12.520 going to be. 0:31:12.520 --> 0:31:15.880 So the real reason why he chose the Patriots is 0:31:15.920 --> 0:31:19.520 the new facility, and Brandon and Main writes in I 0:31:19.560 --> 0:31:23.680 watched the YouTube video introducing the new facility. Obviously, it 0:31:23.720 --> 0:31:26.920 looks incredible. It should be a huge improvement from what existed. 0:31:27.240 --> 0:31:30.800 My question is do each of you feel that having 0:31:30.840 --> 0:31:33.640 a state of the art facility, whether for the Patriots 0:31:33.720 --> 0:31:36.880 or any team, provides any level of competitive advantage? Of 0:31:36.960 --> 0:31:39.840 so how and of how much in a seventeen game season. 0:31:40.080 --> 0:31:41.640 I would think that any edge you can get as 0:31:41.680 --> 0:31:44.480 important and of having a top notch facility is worth 0:31:44.520 --> 0:31:47.080 one win over the season because of the improvement is 0:31:47.080 --> 0:31:49.960 an incredible advantage. I know that it may not be 0:31:50.120 --> 0:31:53.440 as quantifiable as being worth one extra win, but I 0:31:53.440 --> 0:31:55.480 think you can follow what I'm getting at. I appreciate 0:31:55.520 --> 0:31:58.160 your thoughts. I think it does make a difference. This 0:31:58.200 --> 0:32:02.400 is where these guys spend like more time than anywhere 0:32:02.440 --> 0:32:05.960 else during the football season. And if you can make 0:32:06.000 --> 0:32:09.720 it as meeting their needs as much as you can, 0:32:10.320 --> 0:32:14.240 I think that's an advantage. I really do. Does it 0:32:14.600 --> 0:32:20.320 equal wins maybe, but it really is just for the 0:32:20.360 --> 0:32:23.560 comfort of the player, meeting their needs in terms of training, 0:32:24.280 --> 0:32:29.000 you know, food, all that stuff. Having a facility like 0:32:29.040 --> 0:32:32.600 that is something that was we needed for a while here. 0:32:32.720 --> 0:32:35.160 Yeah. I mean just the weight room alone is such 0:32:35.200 --> 0:32:40.360 a stark improvement from what they had. But I like windows. 0:32:41.400 --> 0:32:44.160 It's bright and they have windows and they have exposure 0:32:44.520 --> 0:32:47.719 to the outside and they're not in like a you know, 0:32:47.960 --> 0:32:51.080 basement of you know, like, so I just think that 0:32:51.080 --> 0:32:53.720 that's going to be I don't know if it's quantifiable, 0:32:53.760 --> 0:32:54.880 Like I don't know if I would say they're going 0:32:54.920 --> 0:32:56.160 to win games because. 0:32:55.920 --> 0:32:56.400 Of it or not. 0:32:56.680 --> 0:32:59.040 It was needed in it's an improvement. 0:32:59.280 --> 0:33:01.120 I think it's a good selling point to like a 0:33:01.120 --> 0:33:03.600 potential free agent, like you should have a facility like 0:33:03.640 --> 0:33:06.400 everybody else. Yeah, I don't necessarily think it translates to 0:33:06.480 --> 0:33:07.040 wins and loss. 0:33:07.040 --> 0:33:09.120 Now, it's just so dramatic. I mean, you took the 0:33:09.160 --> 0:33:10.760 words out of my mouth have. I mean looking at 0:33:10.800 --> 0:33:13.920 the old kitchen that they used to have, which no windows, 0:33:13.960 --> 0:33:17.560 to this one now, which is bright and open and welcoming. 0:33:17.600 --> 0:33:20.200 So I mean, it's it's probably a psychological element to it, 0:33:20.200 --> 0:33:22.280 but it's hard to quantify. But I think the players 0:33:22.280 --> 0:33:25.320 are just gonna enjoy coming into work, parking under the sucker, 0:33:25.520 --> 0:33:28.640 you know, get walking right in. It's it's very conveniently 0:33:28.720 --> 0:33:29.040 laid out. 0:33:29.040 --> 0:33:29.320 I'd say. 0:33:29.360 --> 0:33:30.959 The only difference to me that kind of stood out 0:33:31.000 --> 0:33:32.760 is I finally went on my first tour last week 0:33:32.760 --> 0:33:36.040 when they opened. It was just how spread out everything is. 0:33:36.080 --> 0:33:38.720 It's very big, you know, And I only went through 0:33:38.760 --> 0:33:40.800 the other locker room maybe twice while I was here, 0:33:40.800 --> 0:33:43.280 but I was always taken by it just felt so 0:33:43.440 --> 0:33:45.560 condensed and everything is right here. So I don't know 0:33:45.640 --> 0:33:47.280 if that's a good or bad thing. But you know, 0:33:47.320 --> 0:33:49.120 this one, it seems like they have room to grow, 0:33:50.080 --> 0:33:51.680 but they have everything they need at their fingers. 0:33:51.680 --> 0:33:55.160 I mean, the hallways are really wide because there's big 0:33:55.200 --> 0:33:59.480 guys traveling in groups. Just yesterday, I was down in 0:33:59.520 --> 0:34:04.480 the old football area in the stadium and it literally 0:34:04.720 --> 0:34:08.880 is a mouse maze. It like there's no windows. You 0:34:08.920 --> 0:34:10.719 don't know where you're going. You take a right and 0:34:10.760 --> 0:34:17.160 you're lost. It's just little rooms. It's amazing. How like 0:34:17.960 --> 0:34:20.319 when this state, when this place was built in two 0:34:20.360 --> 0:34:22.520 thousand and one and opened up, like, oh boy, this 0:34:22.680 --> 0:34:26.399 was a big impro like, you know, huge improvement over 0:34:26.440 --> 0:34:28.520 the old piece of crap that we used to have. 0:34:28.920 --> 0:34:31.080 And now you look at the improvement that we had 0:34:31.440 --> 0:34:35.239 now over or over that thing. It's just amazing how 0:34:35.280 --> 0:34:37.480 we got away with that for so long. Yeah. 0:34:37.600 --> 0:34:40.439 Yeah, I mean, they do the players Survey every year 0:34:41.080 --> 0:34:43.759 and the Chiefs are always ranked at the bottom of 0:34:43.760 --> 0:34:46.680 the league in terms of facilities, and they win the Super. 0:34:46.440 --> 0:34:48.480 Bowl every other That's why it's hard for me to 0:34:48.520 --> 0:34:51.279 go to the next step, like I did, say, we're 0:34:51.360 --> 0:34:52.280 literals Wings. 0:34:52.840 --> 0:34:55.200 Defending Super Bowl champs and got ranked as the worst 0:34:55.239 --> 0:34:58.000 facility in the league. And so I don't know if 0:34:58.000 --> 0:35:01.839 that necessarily translates to and losses. The other thing. I mean, 0:35:01.880 --> 0:35:04.799 just as a football dork, the the virtual room is 0:35:04.840 --> 0:35:07.200 super cool. And we were in there and then they 0:35:07.239 --> 0:35:09.520 signed him, so I think we can say this. Hassan 0:35:09.600 --> 0:35:12.279 Haskins was in there with Tony Dues and they were 0:35:12.360 --> 0:35:16.000 running through plays, you know, walking through plays with Hassan 0:35:16.040 --> 0:35:19.160 Haskins to get him on boarded until get him out 0:35:19.160 --> 0:35:21.640 there and and practicing on the game on Thursday night, 0:35:22.200 --> 0:35:24.719 and they're they're able to just kind of put a 0:35:24.760 --> 0:35:27.799 defense up on the screen or an offense up on 0:35:27.840 --> 0:35:31.200 the screen and not like it's like a virtual game 0:35:31.239 --> 0:35:34.960 and they literally can play different pressures, different coverages, and 0:35:35.040 --> 0:35:38.239 like you can literally walk through these different things or 0:35:38.280 --> 0:35:40.640 you can use it the way that Tony Dues and 0:35:41.000 --> 0:35:43.879 Hassan Haskins were. So when I went in there, I 0:35:43.920 --> 0:35:46.080 was like, this is this is cool? Like he might 0:35:46.160 --> 0:35:47.280 I don't know if it mattered. 0:35:47.360 --> 0:35:50.080 Much needed cool, Yeah, much needed improvements and it's gotten 0:35:50.160 --> 0:35:53.279 rave reviews all around. I just wanted to close the 0:35:53.320 --> 0:35:55.319 door on that Van Rotent thing. I just looked and 0:35:55.360 --> 0:35:59.200 he I don't see any center not so games. 0:35:59.320 --> 0:36:01.480 So he played some in the CFL. 0:36:01.160 --> 0:36:04.400 Okay, so but he did. I mean, he is a 0:36:04.480 --> 0:36:06.719 much more experienced start. I mean he's been around a 0:36:06.800 --> 0:36:09.520 lot longer than Hudson in eleven years. But he's also 0:36:09.640 --> 0:36:11.799 started every game each of the last three years. So 0:36:12.440 --> 0:36:15.080 he is a much better option than Utson. He's he's 0:36:15.120 --> 0:36:17.640 a full time starter. Hudson really has never been a 0:36:17.640 --> 0:36:19.400 full time he started I think like twenty out of 0:36:19.440 --> 0:36:22.200 sixty games, whereas Van Rowden is more of a star. 0:36:22.320 --> 0:36:24.239 Yeah, I mean that's an upgrade. The point you were 0:36:24.239 --> 0:36:25.879 trying to make, though, Paul was like, this is where 0:36:25.880 --> 0:36:28.080 we're at with this. I think it's a positive and 0:36:28.160 --> 0:36:30.399 that to me is something we've talked a lot when 0:36:30.440 --> 0:36:33.480 we've all been watching practice of like it felt like 0:36:33.520 --> 0:36:35.480 there were certain training camps in the past where like 0:36:35.560 --> 0:36:37.480 this is a train wreck, or you know, it was 0:36:37.520 --> 0:36:40.239 so dramatic the twists and turns of camp, and this 0:36:40.360 --> 0:36:42.680 year it's there really hasn't been that. There has been 0:36:43.120 --> 0:36:45.320 good moments for both sides of the ball. I agree 0:36:45.360 --> 0:36:47.440 with Paul's point that the defense has probably had a 0:36:47.480 --> 0:36:49.440 slight edge to this point. It seems like the offense 0:36:49.520 --> 0:36:51.440 is picking up steam a little bit. But that's what 0:36:51.480 --> 0:36:53.040 I said to Paul, like, is this how it's supposed 0:36:53.040 --> 0:36:53.160 to be? 0:36:53.239 --> 0:36:53.440 Are you? 0:36:53.520 --> 0:36:54.920 Are you supposed to kind of come out of. 0:36:54.920 --> 0:36:56.200 Day like until yesterday? 0:36:56.280 --> 0:36:58.200 Yeah, Yeah, I know it's been a significant edge for 0:36:58.200 --> 0:37:00.000 the defense, and I think the coaches feel the same 0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:02.120 way based on some of the things. 0:37:01.840 --> 0:37:04.000 That that Rabel has talked about with sort of. 0:37:04.000 --> 0:37:07.040 The talking back and forth and hearing more about it 0:37:07.040 --> 0:37:08.120 from the defense and stuff. 0:37:08.120 --> 0:37:10.960 But with this more in line with what you guys 0:37:10.960 --> 0:37:13.000 saw when they were more really positive that you just 0:37:13.040 --> 0:37:15.000 like punch, you know, back and forth. 0:37:15.040 --> 0:37:17.600 I mean, well, when when Brady was here, they. 0:37:17.440 --> 0:37:20.040 Had I know, we had really good defenses and in 0:37:20.040 --> 0:37:20.680 the ball right. 0:37:23.040 --> 0:37:26.640 You don't even yeah, I mean everyone once in a 0:37:26.640 --> 0:37:29.359 while they'd have a good day and you know, you'd 0:37:29.360 --> 0:37:31.880 hear about it. But for the most part that was 0:37:31.960 --> 0:37:34.719 an efficient practice. Offensively, yeah, I. 0:37:34.640 --> 0:37:37.799 Think the turn though that it is slightly made maybe 0:37:37.800 --> 0:37:39.960 in favor of the offense. You know, they do have 0:37:40.280 --> 0:37:42.560 a lot of new pieces on offense that are playing 0:37:42.560 --> 0:37:45.440 prominent roles. So like the first week or so training 0:37:45.440 --> 0:37:48.120 camp when aj Brown and Romeo Dobbs are just kind 0:37:48.120 --> 0:37:50.320 of getting their feet wet and things. Even like Elijah 0:37:50.400 --> 0:37:52.759 Verratucker I thought was a little bit slow out of 0:37:52.760 --> 0:37:55.080 the gate too, and he hadn't played you know, he 0:37:55.160 --> 0:37:56.959 was hurt all of last year, so he hadn't played 0:37:56.960 --> 0:37:59.279 it all in a couple of years. So maybe the 0:37:59.320 --> 0:38:02.360 catch up is is more so about everybody's getting a 0:38:02.400 --> 0:38:06.520 rhythm and starting to figure things out. But defensively, maybe 0:38:06.560 --> 0:38:08.960 it's a little bit about Gonzales not practicing. 0:38:09.239 --> 0:38:11.240 Yep, but okay. 0:38:11.800 --> 0:38:12.440 Eight five y five. 0:38:12.480 --> 0:38:16.360 PATS five hundred is the hot line podcast at Patriots 0:38:16.400 --> 0:38:20.640 dot com. Is the email address people calling in already 0:38:21.000 --> 0:38:23.960 on this Tuesday on Patriots Unfiltered, Getting ready for the 0:38:24.000 --> 0:38:28.600 Eagles joint practices tomorrow and Thursday. Just a reminder, we'll 0:38:28.600 --> 0:38:32.920 be out there live for the start of the joint practice. 0:38:32.920 --> 0:38:35.640 We'll have Rabel live at nine thirty and then we'll 0:38:35.640 --> 0:38:39.480 open the show at about nine forty five. The practice 0:38:39.480 --> 0:38:41.920 starts about ten to fifteen, but you know, we'll do 0:38:41.960 --> 0:38:44.560 our song and dance and set things up from nine 0:38:44.640 --> 0:38:46.000 forty five to ten fifteen. 0:38:46.360 --> 0:38:46.560 Yeah. 0:38:46.560 --> 0:38:48.400 Well, the comic stylings of Mike. 0:38:48.480 --> 0:38:52.040 Show out there high above the practice field Atjillette Stadium. 0:38:52.280 --> 0:38:54.160 Let's go to the hot line. Herm's in d C. 0:38:54.360 --> 0:38:56.200 What's up, Herm? 0:38:56.440 --> 0:38:58.200 Hey, what's going on? Gentlemen? 0:38:58.480 --> 0:38:59.880 Hey? 0:39:01.400 --> 0:39:03.520 Two quick ones for you guys today and uh set 0:39:03.600 --> 0:39:06.720 up and listening to My first question is it seems 0:39:06.760 --> 0:39:12.000 like last year under uh Verse first training him, there 0:39:12.080 --> 0:39:14.000 was a little bit of a narrative going around that 0:39:15.560 --> 0:39:19.040 his I guess his training camp was like soft right, 0:39:19.080 --> 0:39:21.520 which I don't even know what that means. So do 0:39:21.560 --> 0:39:24.640 you guys think that might have been a reason for 0:39:25.840 --> 0:39:29.440 a relatively slow start yesterday? Right, considering we lost to 0:39:29.440 --> 0:39:31.640 the Raiders and uh and in the stylus. 0:39:32.239 --> 0:39:33.239 But on the flip. 0:39:33.040 --> 0:39:36.360 Side, I've been listening to you guys like breakdowns and stuff, 0:39:36.360 --> 0:39:39.880 and it sounds like he's been really going to gouts 0:39:39.920 --> 0:39:44.680 to the grinder, right, So out of that premise, you 0:39:44.800 --> 0:39:48.600 guys think that we'll have a fastest start, right and 0:39:48.600 --> 0:39:52.600 and looking forward a little bit and obviously beat the 0:39:53.120 --> 0:39:59.080 week one. And my second question, my second question is 0:40:00.480 --> 0:40:03.720 looking back a little bit, right, And this is coming 0:40:03.760 --> 0:40:07.200 from me a person that I literally dropped down to 0:40:07.239 --> 0:40:09.600 my knees when I found out that we had coach Brabel. 0:40:11.680 --> 0:40:15.160 But I don't think there's a world Well, do you 0:40:15.200 --> 0:40:19.560 guys think there's a world where Jaroff Mayo could have 0:40:19.640 --> 0:40:23.560 had similar success with you know, like a similar. 0:40:23.200 --> 0:40:24.240 Infrastructure and stuff. 0:40:24.920 --> 0:40:26.160 And I'll take off there and listen. 0:40:26.480 --> 0:40:26.719 Thanks. 0:40:26.960 --> 0:40:29.360 Okay, So the first question I'm not sure I agree 0:40:29.400 --> 0:40:33.840 with the premise was Rabel kind of was it observed 0:40:33.960 --> 0:40:36.520 last year that he might have had a soft training camp? 0:40:36.640 --> 0:40:39.160 Yes? There was, Okay, Yeah, a lot of walkthroughs, less 0:40:39.200 --> 0:40:44.200 days and pads. I stopped tracking it because I I 0:40:44.280 --> 0:40:46.520 was writing about it, so that's why I went back. 0:40:46.560 --> 0:40:49.120 But at one point in beginning of training camp, they 0:40:49.120 --> 0:40:53.239 were significantly outpacing last year in terms of padded practices 0:40:53.880 --> 0:40:55.080 by like two or three padded. 0:40:55.480 --> 0:40:57.240 Yesterday was the tenth padded practice. 0:40:57.320 --> 0:40:59.880 Yeah, now there's a limit, like you, there's a CBA 0:41:00.200 --> 0:41:03.120 mandated limit of how many you can have. But they 0:41:03.480 --> 0:41:08.360 were definitely in pads more consistently this summer than last summer. 0:41:08.800 --> 0:41:10.879 And I do think that the one and two start 0:41:11.239 --> 0:41:13.920 might have played a factor. It's a tough schedule out 0:41:13.960 --> 0:41:17.840 of the gate, Seattle, Jacksonville, Buffalo, Pittsburgh, right out of 0:41:17.840 --> 0:41:21.160 the gate. If you start one in three, you know, 0:41:21.520 --> 0:41:24.600 this year, one and two whatever, all right, it's not 0:41:24.640 --> 0:41:26.520 as easy of a schedule to pull out of, you know, 0:41:26.560 --> 0:41:28.120 win ten games in a row and pull. 0:41:27.960 --> 0:41:28.319 Out of it. 0:41:28.440 --> 0:41:30.640 So I don't know. If I don't think it's not 0:41:30.760 --> 0:41:33.440 just Seattle. I think it's the whole month of September 0:41:33.560 --> 0:41:36.520 is a difficult slate, and so I do think that 0:41:36.560 --> 0:41:39.600 these things might be why they've They've gone after it 0:41:39.640 --> 0:41:41.360 a lot more this year, I would say. 0:41:41.280 --> 0:41:42.360 Than last gotta go. 0:41:43.040 --> 0:41:45.160 I just said, to this point, last year going into 0:41:45.320 --> 0:41:47.759 the Minnesota Joint Practices, which is dyed at seven, so 0:41:47.800 --> 0:41:50.359 there's ten, so there's been three more. Yeah, to this point, 0:41:50.400 --> 0:41:52.759 they'll probably end up about equal. The other spot I 0:41:52.840 --> 0:41:54.080 was going to say, it is just that I wonder 0:41:54.120 --> 0:41:56.480 if they're kind of going harder earlier and because you're 0:41:56.480 --> 0:41:58.480 playing so early, that they're going to pull back now 0:41:58.520 --> 0:42:00.520 and you know, these last couple of weeks a little 0:42:00.520 --> 0:42:00.959 bit lighter. 0:42:01.040 --> 0:42:04.160 Yeah, And I would just say that, and I'm glad 0:42:04.239 --> 0:42:06.560 you have the facts of how many times they were 0:42:06.560 --> 0:42:08.880 in pads last year. It definitely seems they've been in 0:42:09.040 --> 0:42:11.600 pads more often. I wouldn't necessarily say last year was 0:42:11.600 --> 0:42:14.160 an easy camp. I would agree with Evan. That was 0:42:14.200 --> 0:42:17.359 the perception you heard about it with UH specifically Greg 0:42:17.360 --> 0:42:20.040 Burdard was hammering it the whole summer. I didn't really 0:42:20.160 --> 0:42:24.080 understand it, but that was the shots. That was the narrative, 0:42:24.239 --> 0:42:27.200 is that they had an easy camp. And I did wonder, 0:42:27.239 --> 0:42:28.920 and I think the three of us talked about this 0:42:28.960 --> 0:42:30.920 a little bit, maybe about a week ago. Of what 0:42:30.960 --> 0:42:33.359 Evan said, maybe they took the one and two start 0:42:33.400 --> 0:42:35.480 into consideration. And said maybe we need to go a 0:42:35.520 --> 0:42:39.360 little bit harder in camp to be more ready for September. 0:42:39.400 --> 0:42:43.040 The second part of Herm's question about could Mayo have 0:42:43.080 --> 0:42:44.799 had success with. 0:42:44.840 --> 0:42:48.320 This infrastructure, I think that's that's a big question. But 0:42:48.640 --> 0:42:51.319 so you're talking about the entirety of the coaching staff, right, 0:42:51.600 --> 0:42:54.840 and all the players that they have, and a stretch 0:42:55.000 --> 0:42:58.160 a Ryan Cowden, right, you know all those people. I 0:42:58.160 --> 0:42:59.839 don't know that he would have gone fourteen and three, 0:42:59.880 --> 0:43:01.360 but he would have been better. I think one of 0:43:01.360 --> 0:43:08.000 the most underrated and undersold failings of that year was 0:43:08.120 --> 0:43:11.279 not just Girod Mayo's inexperience. It was the inexperience of 0:43:11.320 --> 0:43:14.520 the entire staff, right, Like there were guys in roles 0:43:14.520 --> 0:43:16.719 that they had never been in coordinators that had never 0:43:16.760 --> 0:43:20.440 called plays both sides of the ball, like top to bottom. 0:43:20.520 --> 0:43:22.960 There was a tough situation. I'm not telling you that 0:43:23.239 --> 0:43:27.440 Girod Mayo was this Bill Walsh in the making. If 0:43:27.440 --> 0:43:29.600 he had just been given chance a time, maybe that 0:43:29.640 --> 0:43:32.840 would never would have happened. He wasn't ready, and obviously 0:43:32.840 --> 0:43:34.359 we all know what happened. I don't think they would 0:43:34.400 --> 0:43:36.040 have gone fourteen and three and gone in the super Bowl, 0:43:36.120 --> 0:43:36.560 no chance. 0:43:36.800 --> 0:43:38.799 But they think was a big part of that. 0:43:38.880 --> 0:43:42.200 Think about all the coaches and players that Rabel has 0:43:42.239 --> 0:43:45.320 been able to bring in that he had familiarity with. 0:43:45.760 --> 0:43:47.200 Mayo couldn't do any of that. 0:43:47.239 --> 0:43:49.239 But I mean that's why, Yeah, that's why I'm trying 0:43:49.239 --> 0:43:53.479 to It's a big question. It's unrealistic that that Mayo 0:43:53.520 --> 0:43:55.640 would have been able to put this together right, But 0:43:55.800 --> 0:43:58.560 which is the way he asked it with this infrastructure. 0:43:58.960 --> 0:44:02.600 So in other words, just just take and put Mao 0:44:02.719 --> 0:44:04.280 in and everything else is the same. 0:44:04.719 --> 0:44:06.640 What would have happened. I think they would have been 0:44:06.680 --> 0:44:07.359 a playoff team. 0:44:07.480 --> 0:44:10.160 Now. The one thing that I don't think Mayo could 0:44:10.760 --> 0:44:13.840 do as well as Rabel is the culture. How he 0:44:13.920 --> 0:44:17.000 built the culture right away in the locker room by 0:44:17.120 --> 0:44:21.200 bringing in the people he knew that could back up 0:44:21.200 --> 0:44:26.280 his messaging. You know, right away he captured the team, 0:44:26.520 --> 0:44:28.800 and I think they bought in pretty quickly. 0:44:29.239 --> 0:44:31.040 Rabel was a big part of that test. I don't 0:44:31.040 --> 0:44:32.359 think there's anything I think sugar coating. 0:44:32.440 --> 0:44:34.720 I mean, Vrabel had a vision. He had coached before. 0:44:34.840 --> 0:44:36.800 I think he learned from some mistakes he might have 0:44:36.800 --> 0:44:38.400 made in Tennessee, and he came in with a plan 0:44:38.920 --> 0:44:41.799 and created this team in his image and how he 0:44:41.880 --> 0:44:43.880 knew what kind of schemes he wanted. I think in 0:44:43.960 --> 0:44:46.720 retrospect a little bit of Girod was kind of stuck 0:44:46.800 --> 0:44:48.920 still with one foot in the bill stuff and one 0:44:48.960 --> 0:44:51.399 foot trying to like maybe move outside and get into 0:44:51.760 --> 0:44:54.040 you know, the wide zone area, you know, and so 0:44:54.040 --> 0:44:56.080 it just it felt kind of like it didn't have 0:44:56.080 --> 0:44:58.239 a clear vision. And I think that was It's hard 0:44:58.280 --> 0:45:00.719 to see for me because this team feels such like 0:45:00.800 --> 0:45:03.720 Mike Rabel's vision, and I can't see Drop Mayo putting 0:45:03.760 --> 0:45:05.640 these pieces together. He didn't have the experience. 0:45:05.640 --> 0:45:06.799 Don't think he really had a vision. 0:45:06.920 --> 0:45:09.040 Yeah, like that that was the biggest thing, is like 0:45:09.080 --> 0:45:11.759 the organization from the top down, Like what kind of 0:45:11.800 --> 0:45:13.840 players do we want, what kind of schemes do we 0:45:13.880 --> 0:45:16.360 want to run? How to what players that have the 0:45:16.560 --> 0:45:18.799 attitude that we want that fit the scheme? You know, 0:45:18.840 --> 0:45:21.320 like all these different things. And I think Elliot Wolf's 0:45:21.320 --> 0:45:23.720 talked about that a lot in terms of like making 0:45:23.719 --> 0:45:26.640 that easier to scout because they go into these scouting 0:45:26.640 --> 0:45:31.040 meetings and Mike Rabel has answers to all those questions 0:45:31.120 --> 0:45:33.800 like is this a patriot type of player and is 0:45:33.840 --> 0:45:36.640 you know, not just the personality, but also you know 0:45:36.680 --> 0:45:39.120 the way that they play, you know, and I think 0:45:39.120 --> 0:45:41.840 that that's I don't think drot had that. 0:45:41.920 --> 0:45:43.120 Well, they did have a north Star. 0:45:43.320 --> 0:45:46.360 So but you're venturing more into the crux of the issue. 0:45:46.520 --> 0:45:50.040 So what's what's not assume that all of the infrastructure 0:45:50.120 --> 0:45:53.360 is the same, that you're not even approaching anything close 0:45:53.400 --> 0:45:55.480 to this. Like I'm giving Mayo the benefit of the 0:45:55.520 --> 0:45:58.719 doubt with that roster, with that coaching staff, with that 0:45:58.800 --> 0:46:01.839 personnel department, with everything that went with it, now, because 0:46:01.840 --> 0:46:05.759 that's what herm asked with the same infrastructure, right, So 0:46:05.800 --> 0:46:07.480 I'm saying, yeah, he probably would have been able to 0:46:07.520 --> 0:46:08.080 win some games. 0:46:08.080 --> 0:46:09.400 He would have won more than four games. 0:46:10.760 --> 0:46:13.600 It's way unrealistic to expect if Gerard Mayo was still 0:46:13.640 --> 0:46:15.760 here that all that infrastructure would have been put in place. 0:46:16.200 --> 0:46:17.680 I don't think you would have been able to attract 0:46:17.719 --> 0:46:19.239 that coaching staff. I don't think you would have been 0:46:19.239 --> 0:46:22.480 able to identify and develop the players that they drafted 0:46:22.520 --> 0:46:25.399 and signed in free agency and all of that goes 0:46:25.440 --> 0:46:25.680 with it. 0:46:25.719 --> 0:46:27.799 I don't think there's any chance they would have approached out. 0:46:27.920 --> 0:46:30.600 What if he just fought AVP for Josh in that 0:46:30.680 --> 0:46:33.000 first year. You know, it's just kind of a thought 0:46:33.040 --> 0:46:33.959 experiment of. 0:46:34.280 --> 0:46:36.759 Because McDaniels they might have been able to get I 0:46:36.760 --> 0:46:38.880 think it would have helped with the connections to the 0:46:38.960 --> 0:46:42.279 organization and the team and everything. But I think from 0:46:42.640 --> 0:46:47.680 a personnel standpoint, there's just they they didn't have a 0:46:47.880 --> 0:46:49.840 unified vision of like what how do we want to 0:46:49.880 --> 0:46:51.919 build the roster and how do we want to build 0:46:51.960 --> 0:46:54.880 the team. And you know they came in and Rabel 0:46:54.960 --> 0:46:58.040 and Stretch and Ryan Cadden, Ellie Wolf, they have like 0:46:58.120 --> 0:47:01.920 a real cis them that that they put into place 0:47:01.960 --> 0:47:04.120 and to be able to get players and you know, 0:47:04.640 --> 0:47:07.560 free agency, draft, all of it, and I just I 0:47:07.640 --> 0:47:09.200 think that that was just totally lost. 0:47:09.280 --> 0:47:11.839 Yeah, I mean, I'm not ready to crown them yet. 0:47:11.960 --> 0:47:13.640 I mean, I think the jury is still out on 0:47:13.640 --> 0:47:15.719 these last two draft classes, but I think a crown, 0:47:15.800 --> 0:47:18.440 go ahead, crown them three draft classes ago. Other than 0:47:18.520 --> 0:47:20.960 Drake has pretty much been an abject disaster, and I 0:47:21.000 --> 0:47:22.759 think some of that is related to not having a 0:47:22.800 --> 0:47:24.560 vision and not knowing what kind of at least. 0:47:24.520 --> 0:47:26.839 This last draft, like the Campbell Draft, at least has 0:47:26.880 --> 0:47:29.160 NFL players in it. Other than the quarterback that they 0:47:29.200 --> 0:47:29.840 picked third over it. 0:47:29.880 --> 0:47:32.040 I didn't want to see that. The drafts so much 0:47:32.040 --> 0:47:34.399 better now, I mean, like it's still a work in progress. Yeah, 0:47:34.480 --> 0:47:36.719 but you can't argue with the results of that that 0:47:36.760 --> 0:47:37.279 twenty twenty. 0:47:37.560 --> 0:47:38.680 Anthony's in Seattle. 0:47:38.680 --> 0:47:43.000 Hey, Anthony, Hey, Red Paul Evan deuce Yo? 0:47:43.120 --> 0:47:43.200 Yo? 0:47:44.400 --> 0:47:47.200 Hey, U is a going on with Is she's still 0:47:47.239 --> 0:47:48.000 bloting around there? 0:47:48.360 --> 0:47:51.319 Yeah? She's Yeah, she's on. Uh, she's on some fun 0:47:51.320 --> 0:47:54.520 assignments this week to be revealed closer to the season. 0:47:54.840 --> 0:47:57.640 Oh okay, just making sure because you know, like that 0:47:59.400 --> 0:48:01.200 was just gone and guys never spoke about it again, 0:48:01.280 --> 0:48:05.759 So just make it sure. Hey, Hey, I'll see you 0:48:05.760 --> 0:48:08.960 guys tomorrow. I'm looking forward to it. I'm flying out tonight. 0:48:09.040 --> 0:48:12.799 I'll be at the joint practice tomorrow. So yeah, it 0:48:12.880 --> 0:48:15.600 sounds like I won't see Christian Dollars. Is that is 0:48:15.640 --> 0:48:16.840 he still working through an injury? 0:48:17.040 --> 0:48:19.120 Yeah? Yeah, I don't think you're gonna see him tomorrow. 0:48:19.680 --> 0:48:22.200 All right, Well, I mean hopefully by by week one, 0:48:22.600 --> 0:48:25.359 by the opener, all the injury would would be behind 0:48:25.440 --> 0:48:27.080 him and the contract would be done and I'll see 0:48:27.120 --> 0:48:30.160 him on the night because obviously we know the Patriots 0:48:30.200 --> 0:48:32.359 are coming in coming into town, so I'll see them here. 0:48:32.400 --> 0:48:34.840 So hey, I got nothing more to add. I'm just 0:48:34.840 --> 0:48:36.120 a good one to call talk to you guys. 0:48:36.160 --> 0:48:39.359 Let you know, all right, Patriots and filter Banner High 0:48:39.840 --> 0:48:43.280 Trail and that's where we'll be tomorrow. We will speaking 0:48:43.280 --> 0:48:48.520 of Gonzal's no updates with him, you know, it's it's 0:48:49.160 --> 0:48:52.760 it's true that he did have something happened to him 0:48:52.800 --> 0:48:54.799 at the end of that last practice that he was at, 0:48:54.800 --> 0:48:57.840 but who knows if it's a combination of that and 0:48:58.400 --> 0:49:02.560 the contract kind of dragging out. So hopefully you know 0:49:02.640 --> 0:49:05.920 now that they've got the Witherspoon groundwork, you know, I'm 0:49:05.960 --> 0:49:08.200 sure the devil now is in the details. How much 0:49:08.239 --> 0:49:10.520 more of guarantee are we going to give him when 0:49:10.560 --> 0:49:12.480 it's going to be paid out and all that stuff. 0:49:12.680 --> 0:49:15.000 I'm sure that's what they're they're trying to work out. 0:49:15.320 --> 0:49:16.279 Like we'll see. 0:49:16.320 --> 0:49:17.760 Can I ask a question, do you guys? 0:49:17.800 --> 0:49:19.439 I mean, I've when I was fourteen. 0:49:19.120 --> 0:49:20.320 I'm permission to speak freely. 0:49:20.400 --> 0:49:23.200 I'm privy to you know, watching negotiations happen from time 0:49:23.239 --> 0:49:25.120 to time in my in my professional career, and I 0:49:25.160 --> 0:49:27.640 mean Christian Gonzalez getting dinged up in camp. Do you 0:49:27.640 --> 0:49:31.399 think that that is a a a conversation point as 0:49:31.440 --> 0:49:34.440 they negotiate this contract, is he's had some injury issues 0:49:34.760 --> 0:49:36.960 in the past, I would. 0:49:36.760 --> 0:49:39.319 Think so, yeah, yeah, I don't know. 0:49:39.520 --> 0:49:39.799 I do. 0:49:39.880 --> 0:49:42.880 He hasn't played a full season, and I'll guarantee you 0:49:42.880 --> 0:49:45.080 that that's part of the negotiation from the teams. 0:49:45.400 --> 0:49:47.759 I mean, he played sixteen out of seventeen games two 0:49:47.800 --> 0:49:48.160 years ago. 0:49:48.320 --> 0:49:50.600 I know, so he hasn't played a whole season. 0:49:50.680 --> 0:49:50.879 Paul. 0:49:51.040 --> 0:49:53.120 He sat in the week eighteen that they've played all 0:49:53.160 --> 0:49:53.680 the backups. 0:49:53.719 --> 0:49:55.720 Yea, with a concussion. He couldn't play. 0:49:55.920 --> 0:49:59.080 Okay, I mean he once. 0:50:00.480 --> 0:50:02.319 That's what they're doing. I'm not telling you I agree 0:50:02.320 --> 0:50:03.399 with it. I would have signed a month. 0:50:03.480 --> 0:50:04.160 Well, here's the thing. 0:50:04.239 --> 0:50:06.960 I don't get that opportunity that I feel like. 0:50:07.320 --> 0:50:10.000 He hasn't played a full season, things like he got 0:50:10.080 --> 0:50:10.920 hurt his rookie. 0:50:10.719 --> 0:50:15.719 Year and Mike, it's back to your question, do you 0:50:15.760 --> 0:50:18.400 think these things get used? My answer is yes, I 0:50:18.440 --> 0:50:20.960 think they get used. I think they didn't do this, 0:50:21.080 --> 0:50:21.759 you didn't do that. 0:50:21.960 --> 0:50:23.960 Yeah, that's what you're doing in negotiation. 0:50:24.080 --> 0:50:27.120 None of us know exactly what he's asking for and 0:50:27.160 --> 0:50:29.960 none of us know exactly what's being offered. That is true. 0:50:30.320 --> 0:50:34.920 If he's asking for significantly more than Witherspoon, I do 0:50:34.960 --> 0:50:38.120 think his injuries are a factor. 0:50:38.239 --> 0:50:41.840 What do you identify as significantly more than Witherspoon just 0:50:41.920 --> 0:50:44.800 out of carrier? It depends on you know, how guarantee 0:50:44.800 --> 0:50:46.040 he had one hundred and one guarantee? 0:50:46.080 --> 0:50:49.640 How much more guarantee he's asking for? And yeah, I 0:50:49.640 --> 0:50:51.960 mean if he's asking for forty million a year, I 0:50:52.040 --> 0:50:53.440 think that's no more. 0:50:53.320 --> 0:50:55.759 But one hundred and one million guaranteed. If he were 0:50:55.800 --> 0:50:58.160 asking for one hundred and ten, is that significantly more? 0:50:59.440 --> 0:51:02.200 I would say, yes, yeah, that would, But he might 0:51:02.280 --> 0:51:03.600 he might not think that's significant. 0:51:04.000 --> 0:51:06.759 But even if he's asking for the same amount guaranteed 0:51:07.520 --> 0:51:10.520 or a little bit more percentage wise, but he's asking 0:51:10.520 --> 0:51:14.000 for aav of forty, then that's significantly more too. 0:51:14.200 --> 0:51:16.040 But I would only care about the guarantee because that's 0:51:16.040 --> 0:51:17.840 all I'm paying. Well, I mean, the best of it 0:51:17.920 --> 0:51:18.360 is fluff. 0:51:18.840 --> 0:51:22.759 No, But if Witherspoon's getting one hundred million guaranteed on 0:51:22.960 --> 0:51:25.400 thirty three million a year, I don't know what the 0:51:25.440 --> 0:51:28.520 equivalency of guarantee for forty and if he's asking for 0:51:28.600 --> 0:51:33.239 all of that, I would say, you know, okay, I 0:51:33.239 --> 0:51:34.600 can see where there's a hold. 0:51:34.440 --> 0:51:37.439 Up, but your point, sorry, just real quick. I would 0:51:37.480 --> 0:51:41.200 just say your point about not knowing exactly what he's 0:51:41.239 --> 0:51:43.280 asking for and what the team is offering. 0:51:44.440 --> 0:51:45.880 That's to me the bottom line. 0:51:45.960 --> 0:51:46.800 We don't know. 0:51:46.800 --> 0:51:49.640 I just guessing, yeah, and I am totally guessing. But 0:51:50.080 --> 0:51:54.360 my guess is that it's about payment schedule and not 0:51:54.520 --> 0:51:55.880 the actual dollar amount. 0:51:56.000 --> 0:51:58.319 I don't know that, but that would be my guest. 0:51:58.440 --> 0:52:02.719 So I'm saying my guess is that because Witherspoon got 0:52:02.719 --> 0:52:05.560 the bag now, like he's getting paid in his fourth 0:52:05.600 --> 0:52:08.680 and fifth season. The fifty eight million dollars guaranteed in 0:52:08.719 --> 0:52:11.440 the first two years of the contract. That's the real money, 0:52:11.640 --> 0:52:15.040 right of the contract. The other thing's guaranteed for injury 0:52:15.040 --> 0:52:19.000 at one hundred and one million dollars. He's got play yeah, 0:52:19.080 --> 0:52:19.560 to get that. 0:52:19.520 --> 0:52:20.560 Much lest guarantee. 0:52:20.600 --> 0:52:23.680 So and for the fourth and fifth year of the contract, 0:52:23.960 --> 0:52:25.359 he's getting the bag. Now. 0:52:25.480 --> 0:52:28.719 Now here's the hope I have. At first, having the 0:52:28.760 --> 0:52:32.160 same age it was kind of a made it more complex, 0:52:32.239 --> 0:52:34.600 I think, But now I think it makes it better 0:52:34.640 --> 0:52:37.960 for the Patriots and here's why maybe this should be 0:52:37.960 --> 0:52:40.440 our legal seafood fresh take. But anyway, we'll do that 0:52:40.480 --> 0:52:43.880 after the break. But here's why he's already done the 0:52:43.920 --> 0:52:47.120 deal for Witherspoon. If he goes in asking for a 0:52:47.160 --> 0:52:49.799 lot more for Gonzales. If I'm Witherspoon, it's like, well, 0:52:49.840 --> 0:52:51.480 what are you doing? I'm just as good as him, 0:52:51.880 --> 0:52:54.439 So I don't think he's doing that. I think he's 0:52:54.480 --> 0:52:58.200 asking for something similar to what he got for Witherspoon. Otherwise, 0:52:58.360 --> 0:53:00.520 Witherspoon is his client too, and he's like, I don't. 0:53:00.360 --> 0:53:01.920 Think it matters what the agent thinks. 0:53:02.040 --> 0:53:02.120 What. 0:53:02.320 --> 0:53:04.080 I don't think it matters what the agent thinks. 0:53:04.560 --> 0:53:04.920 What do you mean? 0:53:04.960 --> 0:53:06.359 It's what the it's what the player thinks. 0:53:06.360 --> 0:53:09.480 The player think he significantly worth more than Yeah, well 0:53:09.719 --> 0:53:10.720 it doesn't matter what the agents. 0:53:11.320 --> 0:53:13.800 Yeah, I think it does. I think the player agents 0:53:13.800 --> 0:53:17.120 are also their advisors. They're telling them what's realistic and 0:53:17.160 --> 0:53:18.200 what what they're done. 0:53:18.360 --> 0:53:20.640 They can tell them what they think is should be done. 0:53:21.400 --> 0:53:24.000 It's up to Gonzales to decide what is going to 0:53:24.000 --> 0:53:24.359 be done. 0:53:24.360 --> 0:53:25.200 It's true, but. 0:53:25.320 --> 0:53:28.759 I wouldn't like, I don't know if the AAV is 0:53:28.760 --> 0:53:31.920 the problem here, Like I think Witherspoon and Stingly got 0:53:31.960 --> 0:53:35.560 paid in their fourth and fifth seasons, So Sauce Gardner 0:53:35.600 --> 0:53:37.520 didn't get paid in his fourth and fifth seasons. He 0:53:37.560 --> 0:53:40.840 got paid an escalator contract, where the money that's guaranteed 0:53:40.920 --> 0:53:42.600 is kicked down the road to the back end of 0:53:42.640 --> 0:53:47.640 the contract. Typically the Patriots operate on the escalator contract scale, 0:53:47.920 --> 0:53:49.880 where you get a little bit more in the fourth 0:53:49.920 --> 0:53:52.040 year than you would get normally, get a little bit 0:53:52.080 --> 0:53:53.880 more in the fifth year than you would get normally, 0:53:54.080 --> 0:53:57.080 but the bag comes in the sixth year. And my 0:53:57.200 --> 0:53:59.799 guess is is that this hold up might be off 0:54:00.480 --> 0:54:05.920 out of that, Like he wants the Witherspoon framework where 0:54:06.560 --> 0:54:09.160 the four season, this year's or ear, he's going to 0:54:09.200 --> 0:54:11.640 get a significant pay raise, like up to almost thirty 0:54:11.640 --> 0:54:15.399 million dollars for the fourth season. The Patriots might want 0:54:15.400 --> 0:54:17.640 to be in a cut. Well, you're still on your 0:54:17.680 --> 0:54:21.680 rookie contract, so we're going to really kind of extend 0:54:21.680 --> 0:54:24.080 this out a little bit longer that Dad. I think 0:54:24.200 --> 0:54:26.600 is I don't think that it's like what Gonzales is 0:54:26.600 --> 0:54:29.280 that whether got thirty three and Gonzalez is at forty, 0:54:29.320 --> 0:54:30.440 and I don't think that's the. 0:54:30.280 --> 0:54:32.640 Case of the Patriots. Doesn't it make more sense to 0:54:32.719 --> 0:54:35.160 give him the bag right now because you've got Drake 0:54:35.239 --> 0:54:35.960 May next year. 0:54:36.080 --> 0:54:39.160 Yes, in terms of. 0:54:39.080 --> 0:54:42.560 That, yes, if you are in the school and I'm 0:54:42.560 --> 0:54:44.960 saying this is all hypothetical, if you are in the 0:54:45.000 --> 0:54:49.520 school that once Drake May's contract kicks in and maybe 0:54:49.680 --> 0:54:52.880 an aj Brown extension or something along those lines, that 0:54:53.000 --> 0:54:55.719 the Gonzales thing might get revisited in terms of him 0:54:55.760 --> 0:54:59.399 being here, like the Jets did with Sauce Gardner, then 0:54:59.400 --> 0:55:01.440 it makes more sense to kick the can on the 0:55:01.440 --> 0:55:04.520 contract down the road because then becomes another team's problem 0:55:04.800 --> 0:55:06.960 to pay him the money. So I think that that 0:55:07.640 --> 0:55:10.680 that I think is where teams, if you kick the 0:55:10.719 --> 0:55:13.279 can down the road on the guaranteed money, you give 0:55:13.320 --> 0:55:17.560 yourself a smaller amount of money due up front, then 0:55:17.600 --> 0:55:20.360 that allows you to kind of finagle the contract numbers 0:55:20.360 --> 0:55:20.759 a little bit. 0:55:21.200 --> 0:55:24.000 I hope that's not what this is, because I don't 0:55:24.000 --> 0:55:25.040 think it'll get done if it is. 0:55:25.200 --> 0:55:28.440 Yeah, So again, this is all speculation. We have no idea. 0:55:29.000 --> 0:55:32.880 We're all hoping it gets done some form fashion. 0:55:32.880 --> 0:55:35.319 Quickly because I don't want it to bleed into the 0:55:35.360 --> 0:55:38.279 season like you want to have Gonzales and Davis I 0:55:38.320 --> 0:55:41.040 think is so important to how they want to play defense. 0:55:41.080 --> 0:55:43.080 We talked about it early in the show, the lack 0:55:43.120 --> 0:55:46.360 of you know, proven edge rushers. You need to have 0:55:46.440 --> 0:55:49.680 guys that can cover. Gonzalez is as good cover guy 0:55:49.840 --> 0:55:53.480 as really anybody you know. Witherspoon I think is a 0:55:53.520 --> 0:55:57.160 tremendous player, you know, I actually think he impacts games 0:55:57.160 --> 0:55:59.800 in a lot of different ways more so than Gonzales. 0:55:59.800 --> 0:56:02.120 But as a pure cover guy, Gonzales is better. 0:56:02.280 --> 0:56:02.600 Yeah. 0:56:02.680 --> 0:56:04.400 So I don't like, I don't know. 0:56:05.960 --> 0:56:07.800 I don't know what the defense would look like. If 0:56:08.000 --> 0:56:09.800 you take your cover guys. 0:56:09.719 --> 0:56:12.960 It certainly limits it takes away from your all out 0:56:13.040 --> 0:56:16.760 pressure if you don't have good covers the corner. 0:56:16.800 --> 0:56:20.080 There's absolutely no doubt for this year's Patriots they need Gonzales. 0:56:20.440 --> 0:56:24.719 If they're gonna make noise, they need Gonzales. I if 0:56:24.760 --> 0:56:27.479 he signs the contract here, I still am a little 0:56:27.480 --> 0:56:29.200 skeptical that he plays out the contract. 0:56:29.200 --> 0:56:32.160 I don't care about it here. Yeah, but you get this. 0:56:32.160 --> 0:56:34.919 Year your scenario. The hypothetical I think makes some sense. 0:56:35.080 --> 0:56:37.200 You sign him, you give him the money you get. 0:56:37.360 --> 0:56:40.520 You know, he's only twenty five, right, twenty five, I think, 0:56:41.520 --> 0:56:43.239 so you get good years out of him. And if 0:56:43.320 --> 0:56:45.840 you think that maybe the value is not there, we 0:56:45.880 --> 0:56:47.880 overpaid him a little bit. You can move them these guys. Look, 0:56:47.960 --> 0:56:50.680 these guys move now, right, you can trade these guys. 0:56:51.280 --> 0:56:53.680 My rhythm's off. So I didn't tell Matt what I 0:56:53.719 --> 0:56:56.040 wanted for lunch. 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One 0:59:19.440 --> 0:59:23.760 team unites two of the nation's best hospitals. One team 0:59:23.880 --> 0:59:28.480 saves more lives every year. Our team, we're one against 0:59:28.560 --> 0:59:30.240 cancer mass General. 0:59:29.960 --> 0:59:38.720 Brigham, Oh, I know, go ahead, so yep. 0:59:45.480 --> 0:59:50.360 A lot of everything is pretty unique to itself, and 0:59:50.400 --> 0:59:55.320 whether that's negotiations, or that's players or the play that 0:59:55.320 --> 1:00:00.480 we're running, certainly those are unique and individual situation. And 1:00:00.920 --> 1:00:03.560 I think we'll try to focus on Christians, and I 1:00:03.600 --> 1:00:08.080 know he'll focus on his own situation. So we'll continue 1:00:08.120 --> 1:00:10.880 to to work through that and he'll continue to to 1:00:10.960 --> 1:00:12.840 try to improve and try to get back out on 1:00:12.920 --> 1:00:18.000 the field. I would not anticipate that. I think he's 1:00:18.040 --> 1:00:22.600 just in the return to play getting closer. He may 1:00:22.640 --> 1:00:23.760 do a little bit more. 1:00:27.320 --> 1:00:28.200 Because it's time. 1:00:28.280 --> 1:00:29.360 What do you see this week? 1:00:29.760 --> 1:00:32.680 Will that determine if guys play Saturday or is that 1:00:32.800 --> 1:00:34.720 something you've decided a bid of time. 1:00:35.640 --> 1:00:37.160 No, I think you have to use the work that 1:00:37.200 --> 1:00:41.520 we get and how good the work goes I think, 1:00:41.560 --> 1:00:45.400 and I now, as long as we get what we 1:00:45.480 --> 1:00:48.280 set out to accomplish. I mean two days of joint 1:00:48.320 --> 1:00:51.440 practices with a lot of reps. I think upwards of 1:00:52.080 --> 1:00:55.120 you know, probably twenty eight reps. Thirty reps for the 1:00:55.120 --> 1:00:59.040 first group on each day is a good number of 1:00:59.240 --> 1:01:09.960 make sure that the tensities there, and then we'll evaluate. Yeah, 1:01:10.040 --> 1:01:13.640 it's hard to be able to get those types of 1:01:13.640 --> 1:01:17.520 things outside or you know, in a preseason game, and 1:01:17.560 --> 1:01:19.720 so you know, we're just trying to work on all 1:01:19.720 --> 1:01:22.680 those things that we're going to need throughout the season. 1:01:23.000 --> 1:01:25.040 And I thought that that would be a good time 1:01:25.080 --> 1:01:26.160 to do it right. 1:01:26.120 --> 1:01:28.600 I think you've learned about the team coming out of 1:01:28.600 --> 1:01:30.680 the joint practice and aji that you can use into 1:01:30.920 --> 1:01:31.440 in Philly. 1:01:33.040 --> 1:01:35.320 Now that we have to just continue to be more consistent. 1:01:35.400 --> 1:01:38.600 We have to continue to understand that, you know, the 1:01:38.640 --> 1:01:41.400 opponent changes, that the you know, what we see in 1:01:41.440 --> 1:01:43.640 the beginning of practice is usually going to be some 1:01:43.680 --> 1:01:45.920 of the same things that we we see in the end. 1:01:46.200 --> 1:01:49.479 If you don't fix problems, you know, or get get 1:01:49.480 --> 1:01:53.800 things addressed, or recognize new plays that you know, that's 1:01:53.800 --> 1:01:55.440 going to be what it's like in the game. So 1:01:57.040 --> 1:01:58.920 I don't know if I learned anything other than we 1:01:59.000 --> 1:02:02.600 have to continue to keep it proven that and that's 1:02:02.640 --> 1:02:03.040 the goal. 1:02:03.840 --> 1:02:07.960 What difference your approach with two days, Mike rather than one, I. 1:02:07.880 --> 1:02:09.120 Don't think it's much different. 1:02:09.120 --> 1:02:11.600 I think that, you know, we'll be able to do 1:02:11.640 --> 1:02:13.360 a lot more field work on the first day and 1:02:13.360 --> 1:02:16.760 then probably focus on the red zone the next day. 1:02:17.360 --> 1:02:21.000 But other than that, you know, we tried to put 1:02:21.040 --> 1:02:23.280 everything into one day versus Indy, and now we'll have 1:02:23.400 --> 1:02:26.360 much more concentrated work second day in the red zone. 1:02:27.080 --> 1:02:29.800 Andrew going down and then dealing with his injury, is 1:02:30.080 --> 1:02:31.680 that a position you'd like to add when that we're 1:02:31.960 --> 1:02:34.160 veterans to or do you like the younger group? 1:02:34.240 --> 1:02:35.560 Well, I mean I think we have to be able 1:02:35.600 --> 1:02:37.960 to evaluate the younger group and see what they do 1:02:38.080 --> 1:02:40.960 here this week and you know, in a competitive setting, 1:02:41.000 --> 1:02:43.840 and then also in the game, and then always, you know, 1:02:44.000 --> 1:02:46.320 keep our eyes open to to what it looks like 1:02:46.360 --> 1:02:47.080 around the league. 1:02:47.600 --> 1:02:50.160 Like I mentioned earlier in camp that we might see 1:02:50.560 --> 1:02:52.560 Caleb at Garden, I don't think we've seen it yet 1:02:52.600 --> 1:02:54.920 in camp. Is that something that you guys might do 1:02:54.960 --> 1:02:56.400 now you can deal with sym injuries there. 1:02:56.400 --> 1:02:57.000 I certainly could. 1:02:57.040 --> 1:03:00.480 I think we just what happens is is you know 1:03:00.520 --> 1:03:02.240 where where do you feel like he can make the 1:03:02.280 --> 1:03:05.840 most strides and you don't want to, uh, you know, 1:03:05.920 --> 1:03:08.960 derail the in the improvement that he's baking and some 1:03:09.080 --> 1:03:09.680 of those things. 1:03:09.720 --> 1:03:10.000 And so. 1:03:11.560 --> 1:03:14.040 I'm probably much like you guys and say, hey, that 1:03:14.080 --> 1:03:15.840 it's not that big of a deal to go from 1:03:16.040 --> 1:03:19.240 from tackle to guard. I've got a lot of coaches 1:03:19.240 --> 1:03:22.959 that I'd probably think differently than what you guys and 1:03:22.960 --> 1:03:25.640 and maybe me think, and that it's. 1:03:25.560 --> 1:03:26.439 A little bigger deal. 1:03:26.760 --> 1:03:29.360 But uh, I think Kayler has been working hard, he's 1:03:29.400 --> 1:03:33.800 been trying to improve, but I think at some point 1:03:33.840 --> 1:03:36.320 we well, we'll need to do that as well. 1:03:36.640 --> 1:03:38.160 And and that's just trying to. 1:03:38.120 --> 1:03:41.439 Be fair to the kid and the player, uh as 1:03:41.440 --> 1:03:44.640 he's developing and learning this game and this this league. 1:03:45.280 --> 1:03:47.280 Uh And then at some point in time, you know, 1:03:47.320 --> 1:03:48.520 we'll probably have to take a look in. 1:03:48.520 --> 1:03:50.600 There, Like Ted End does a spot that I think 1:03:50.640 --> 1:03:52.920 can be difficult for rookies just to grasp all the 1:03:52.920 --> 1:03:55.680 responsibilities and everything. With Ei, how is he doing with 1:03:55.720 --> 1:03:58.080 that process of getting used to NFL speed, getting the 1:03:58.080 --> 1:04:01.000 playbook down, and seemingly like get from a fire hose. 1:04:01.280 --> 1:04:05.800 Yeah, I think probably fairly well, you know, I mean 1:04:05.800 --> 1:04:08.200 it could always be better. I think that he's done 1:04:08.280 --> 1:04:11.240 some some good things, and I think he's learning. He 1:04:11.360 --> 1:04:15.440 rarely makes the same mistake twice, if you know, we 1:04:15.760 --> 1:04:17.680 coach him on something, or he didn't like what he did, 1:04:17.680 --> 1:04:20.800 and one day, he usually comes back the next day 1:04:20.840 --> 1:04:23.360 and and does does a decent job at it. You 1:04:23.400 --> 1:04:27.360 can see him consciously trying to do the things that 1:04:27.360 --> 1:04:28.360 we're asking him to do. 1:04:28.840 --> 1:04:32.080 And I think we're you know, headed in a good direction. 1:04:32.240 --> 1:04:34.120 But uh, you know, long ways. 1:04:33.880 --> 1:04:41.320 To go to having starting quarterbacks not playing all. I 1:04:41.600 --> 1:04:44.360 don't know I really just focus on the Patriots and 1:04:44.440 --> 1:04:45.000 not the league. 1:04:45.040 --> 1:04:46.479 I don't know what other teams are doing. 1:04:49.040 --> 1:04:52.880 You know, that's a question for for thirty two teams, 1:04:53.080 --> 1:04:55.200 you know, so what we're trying. 1:04:54.960 --> 1:04:57.280 To do is certainly help that. 1:04:58.320 --> 1:05:00.120 Yeah, I mean you get a lot of intensity, but 1:05:01.000 --> 1:05:02.520 you know, you see a lot of different looks and 1:05:02.560 --> 1:05:05.240 teams are you know, they're running a lot more stuff 1:05:05.240 --> 1:05:07.439 than they would run in the preseason in the game 1:05:07.480 --> 1:05:09.960 and putting it on film. And if that's what you mean, 1:05:10.000 --> 1:05:12.920 I mean stuff that we saw from Indianapolis and practice 1:05:12.920 --> 1:05:16.560 we didn't see from them in the game. We saw basically, 1:05:17.840 --> 1:05:21.200 you know, one or two blitzes and. 1:05:20.320 --> 1:05:23.760 A lot of other just base defenses. 1:05:24.200 --> 1:05:26.000 How do you feel run games progressing and do you 1:05:26.040 --> 1:05:28.680 have to manage expectations at all given how important time 1:05:28.720 --> 1:05:30.600 on task is and all the movement that you guys. 1:05:30.400 --> 1:05:30.760 Have had on. 1:05:32.320 --> 1:05:34.960 I mean, it's it's probably hard to tell. I mean, 1:05:35.000 --> 1:05:39.000 I think it can always be better, but you know, 1:05:39.080 --> 1:05:41.000 it's not live, so you don't know if guys break 1:05:41.040 --> 1:05:43.919 tackles and you know, receivers are trying to come get 1:05:43.920 --> 1:05:46.160 safeties that are three yards from the line of scrimmage. 1:05:47.600 --> 1:05:49.120 You know, do you want them to go nail them 1:05:49.120 --> 1:05:52.040 and then knock them into the others guys. So I 1:05:52.080 --> 1:05:53.920 think that there's a fine line there and try to 1:05:53.920 --> 1:05:56.400 figure out what the run game looks like and what 1:05:56.440 --> 1:05:57.200 it will look like. 1:05:57.560 --> 1:05:58.840 And there's been some good runs. 1:05:59.600 --> 1:06:02.919 There's been sometimes where it's been one guy but still 1:06:03.000 --> 1:06:05.800 not a very good play. So there's there's I think, 1:06:05.840 --> 1:06:08.360 good things, and there's some things that you know would 1:06:08.400 --> 1:06:11.040 have to be better. But we want to take care 1:06:11.080 --> 1:06:12.560 of our guys. We want to make sure that we're 1:06:12.560 --> 1:06:15.560 stand up and we're not creating piles. And sometimes those 1:06:15.600 --> 1:06:18.960 receivers going down to get those guys and support creates 1:06:18.960 --> 1:06:21.760 a little funky angle. And you know, we asked them to, 1:06:21.840 --> 1:06:24.400 you know, take care of each other. So in a 1:06:24.560 --> 1:06:26.560 in a game, maybe the guy you know is able 1:06:26.560 --> 1:06:29.680 to block him by the hole, and you know, in 1:06:29.720 --> 1:06:31.080 practice sometimes that doesn't happen. 1:06:31.640 --> 1:06:33.959 Are to make the most of his opportunities last year 1:06:34.200 --> 1:06:37.280 and then the state of the room, he's evening more 1:06:37.320 --> 1:06:39.640 this year. How do you feel like he has handled 1:06:39.680 --> 1:06:41.200 maybe some of that increased. 1:06:40.960 --> 1:06:41.920 R I think good. 1:06:42.000 --> 1:06:44.200 I think I think he continues to just just be 1:06:44.320 --> 1:06:48.240 more comfortable and understand what the game is and what 1:06:48.360 --> 1:06:51.080 it is from a special team standpoint, what it is 1:06:51.200 --> 1:06:53.400 from a first and second down standpoint, what some of 1:06:53.440 --> 1:06:56.120 the formations are, what he may be looking at. 1:06:56.080 --> 1:06:59.440 Some of his keys, doesn't seem to be overly stressed 1:07:01.040 --> 1:07:01.800 or or panic. 1:07:02.600 --> 1:07:03.400 How do you feel. 1:07:03.880 --> 1:07:07.200 Gibs progress has been now that he's been active for 1:07:07.280 --> 1:07:08.080 a couple of weeks ago. 1:07:08.160 --> 1:07:10.120 Okay, I mean I think that it needs to be better. 1:07:10.200 --> 1:07:12.360 It was better on Monday or whatever. 1:07:12.480 --> 1:07:17.080 I guess not Monday, but whenever we practiced Saturday, I 1:07:17.120 --> 1:07:19.080 guess it was better Saturday than it wasn't the game. 1:07:19.120 --> 1:07:20.680 We pointed some things out to him in the game, 1:07:21.480 --> 1:07:24.040 and I felt it was really cool to him to 1:07:24.080 --> 1:07:26.840 be able to make those corrections and look at the 1:07:27.560 --> 1:07:30.320 some of the body positions that that we feel like 1:07:30.440 --> 1:07:34.080 he should be in, and he was really conscious of 1:07:34.120 --> 1:07:36.520 those and I saw those things translated just a quick 1:07:37.040 --> 1:07:40.800 short amount of time from the meeting after the game 1:07:40.880 --> 1:07:42.240 to to Saturday's practice. 1:07:53.480 --> 1:07:55.520 What is the biggest thing for you to stood out 1:07:55.640 --> 1:07:57.920 about him and his developing as a player? 1:07:59.240 --> 1:08:02.560 Played hard, has energy, you know, he's got you know, 1:08:02.760 --> 1:08:05.080 get you get. It means a lot to him. It's 1:08:05.120 --> 1:08:09.360 important to him. It's easy to coach you know what 1:08:09.400 --> 1:08:11.960 I mean, you can you can coach him hard, and 1:08:13.080 --> 1:08:15.160 you know he usually tries to make the corrections and 1:08:15.480 --> 1:08:18.360 comes back and he you know, I think has continued 1:08:18.400 --> 1:08:21.599 to prove. He's played well in a run game, flashed 1:08:21.600 --> 1:08:23.800 a little bit of second first and second down pass rush, 1:08:23.880 --> 1:08:39.680 being able to get into the pocket. So yeah, there's 1:08:39.680 --> 1:08:41.840 a lot of guys that we talk about the professionalism 1:08:41.960 --> 1:08:44.840 and like this is the situation. You show up the camp, 1:08:44.920 --> 1:08:47.920 you compete, and then you try to hurt a role, 1:08:48.200 --> 1:08:51.960 and that's what everybody's trying to do, and case Sean included. 1:08:52.120 --> 1:08:54.559 So I appreciate what he does each and every day. 1:08:54.640 --> 1:08:57.080 Made a huge play, uh for us yesterday at a 1:08:57.120 --> 1:08:59.960 two minute and or the other day and these days 1:09:00.080 --> 1:09:03.400 just run together. So I apologize, but made a huge 1:09:03.400 --> 1:09:05.640 play for us, and just how he did last year 1:09:05.760 --> 1:09:08.639 multiple times when we called on him. So he's ready 1:09:08.680 --> 1:09:12.280 to go, he's prepared and and he's trying to earn 1:09:12.320 --> 1:09:12.640 a role in. 1:09:12.640 --> 1:09:13.320 His football team. 1:09:16.600 --> 1:09:17.880 I'm talking about a lot last year. 1:09:19.960 --> 1:09:22.000 There's one football there's one you know what I mean, 1:09:22.040 --> 1:09:23.040 And I don't get to throw it. 1:09:23.600 --> 1:09:25.680 We have a quarterback that that gets to choose who 1:09:25.720 --> 1:09:27.439 he throws it to and hopefully it's a guy that's 1:09:27.479 --> 1:09:30.439 open and in the progression in which, uh that we 1:09:30.600 --> 1:09:33.200 install it so that you have to kind of be 1:09:34.720 --> 1:09:37.200 every guy wants the ball. Everybody wants to score touchdowns. 1:09:37.240 --> 1:09:40.400 Everybody wants the ball, but that's not realistic. So you know, 1:09:40.600 --> 1:09:43.120 we don't throw it to you. We'd like to see it, 1:09:43.360 --> 1:09:47.280 you know, transition and try to go block somebody. And 1:09:47.360 --> 1:09:49.840 I see that from guys. I see guys. One guy 1:09:49.880 --> 1:09:51.960 will have a good day, somebody else may not have 1:09:52.080 --> 1:09:54.719 as a big a day and then it kind of switches. 1:09:54.800 --> 1:09:57.040 So I think it's it's a good problem to have, 1:09:57.240 --> 1:10:00.120 and everybody knows that, you know, if they're doing in 1:10:00.160 --> 1:10:01.720 their job, that the ball is going to find him. 1:10:03.040 --> 1:10:07.120 What did you like about Jacob Brizzy as he starts there, Well, I. 1:10:07.160 --> 1:10:10.760 Mean he has battled, he's competed, he's studied, you know 1:10:10.920 --> 1:10:13.519 for a young center to go in there, and it 1:10:13.680 --> 1:10:15.800 was good. I didn't think that the game, the way 1:10:15.840 --> 1:10:18.759 that he got thrown into the game by you know, injury, 1:10:19.600 --> 1:10:22.519 was was too big for him. He was prepared and 1:10:22.920 --> 1:10:25.360 uh again, I think he'll continue to work and understand 1:10:25.400 --> 1:10:29.280 that you know, this is a little different game than 1:10:29.320 --> 1:10:30.920 probably what he was used to in college. 1:10:30.960 --> 1:10:31.360 But he is. 1:10:31.600 --> 1:10:34.679 He's figuring it out, figuring out angles and and those 1:10:34.720 --> 1:10:37.519 things are so critical for for interior linement where they 1:10:37.560 --> 1:10:39.559 have to go to get backers at the second level. 1:10:40.360 --> 1:10:43.040 You know, these guys maybe react a little quicker at 1:10:43.080 --> 1:10:45.040 this level, so I have to take a little better angle. 1:10:46.439 --> 1:10:49.519 Thanks, and now great moments in. 1:10:51.800 --> 1:10:55.000 History Satellite radio. I really like it. 1:10:55.080 --> 1:10:55.439 It's good. 1:10:55.720 --> 1:10:58.240 Yeah, you don't like it, Eric, I don't have it. 1:10:58.439 --> 1:11:02.839 You don't have anything. Okay, you don't even have HBO, pucas. 1:11:02.920 --> 1:11:05.560 That's true. I don't have HBO like you. I have 1:11:05.680 --> 1:11:06.639 access to HBO. 1:11:06.720 --> 1:11:06.920 I know. 1:11:07.040 --> 1:11:10.040 But you live like a monk's life over there in 1:11:10.160 --> 1:11:10.919 North Providence. 1:11:11.520 --> 1:11:12.639 I know you're really concerned. 1:11:12.760 --> 1:11:13.880 You know, you're like a hermit. 1:11:14.040 --> 1:11:18.479 Sure, Eric, wear olive colored sweater's brown. 1:11:19.560 --> 1:11:22.800 Down because I've said that before. It has a green tint, 1:11:22.880 --> 1:11:24.080 and he gets really upset. 1:11:24.640 --> 1:11:25.679 I don't get upset. 1:11:25.760 --> 1:11:26.960 It has a green tint to it. 1:11:27.640 --> 1:11:28.559 Sure, but it's brown. 1:11:29.120 --> 1:11:32.080 It's not olive. I think it's all of trust me, 1:11:32.160 --> 1:11:32.760 it's not olive. 1:11:32.960 --> 1:11:35.719 The color of an olive, like a dark olive, looks 1:11:35.880 --> 1:11:36.479 just like your. 1:11:37.240 --> 1:11:39.479 That's another great moment from. 1:11:41.840 --> 1:11:44.759 All right. Legal Seafoods is giving fans a true taste 1:11:44.800 --> 1:11:47.600 of Boston this season as the official seafood restaurant of 1:11:47.640 --> 1:11:51.120 the New England Patriots. Pregame or postgame get the seafood 1:11:51.200 --> 1:11:55.639 you love at your local restaurant today Legal Seafoods dot 1:11:55.800 --> 1:11:59.839 Com and uh, Paul, you got a fresh take. 1:12:00.000 --> 1:12:00.960 You have a fresh take. 1:12:01.000 --> 1:12:03.040 I'm going to be legal. I'm going to be honored 1:12:03.160 --> 1:12:06.160 to give the first Legal Seafood fresh take of the day, 1:12:06.760 --> 1:12:08.519 and that's going to involve something that you guys are 1:12:08.520 --> 1:12:10.200 going to be a little surprised to hear from me, 1:12:11.760 --> 1:12:14.760 is how impressed I've been with the performance of the 1:12:14.880 --> 1:12:17.200 offensive line, particularly in pass protection. 1:12:17.760 --> 1:12:19.520 We've talked about some reasons. 1:12:19.280 --> 1:12:22.320 Why that might look a little bit better than it is, 1:12:22.479 --> 1:12:25.400 but I think that that starting five of Will Campbell, 1:12:25.880 --> 1:12:31.519 Elijah Vera, Tucker Tucker Tucker, Jared Wilson, Michael Wentu, and 1:12:31.600 --> 1:12:35.280 Morgan Moses has been intact for most of pretty much 1:12:35.360 --> 1:12:40.280 every day in camp, taking part in virtually every team 1:12:40.360 --> 1:12:43.439 rep couple here and there for Morgan Moses and some 1:12:43.600 --> 1:12:45.519 mixing and matching. I think that group has done a 1:12:45.600 --> 1:12:47.720 great job, and I think that's the biggest reason why 1:12:48.479 --> 1:12:50.280 when the offense has looked comfortable. 1:12:50.840 --> 1:12:52.840 I thought it was really comfortable. 1:12:52.400 --> 1:12:55.479 Against Indianapolis as an example, in that joint practice, I 1:12:55.520 --> 1:12:58.040 think the pass protection has been really good and I've 1:12:58.080 --> 1:13:00.679 seen a significant improvement in that area. 1:13:00.720 --> 1:13:01.840 I think that's something to build on. 1:13:02.320 --> 1:13:06.160 All right, So that's your legal seafood fresh take slash monologue. 1:13:06.160 --> 1:13:10.080 Doesn't usually come for doesn't usually come for me from anywhere. No, 1:13:10.240 --> 1:13:15.439 that amount of you know, you know with the offensive line, Yeah, 1:13:15.479 --> 1:13:16.040 that's that's. 1:13:16.600 --> 1:13:19.280 Say do that on your own time and just for 1:13:19.439 --> 1:13:22.360 you people, you know, for all you press people. 1:13:22.400 --> 1:13:25.120 Because I know that you watch this show that you 1:13:25.320 --> 1:13:29.439 thought that all these years you were eating legal seafood 1:13:29.479 --> 1:13:32.479 clam chowder at before the game. I've told you that 1:13:32.560 --> 1:13:35.439 it's not legal seafood chowder. Make note of what you 1:13:35.640 --> 1:13:38.760 had last week and what you will have this week 1:13:39.080 --> 1:13:42.439 at the game that is legal seafood clam chowder. 1:13:42.760 --> 1:13:44.960 I'm team chowder this year. I'm going yea, you were 1:13:45.720 --> 1:13:47.519 saying that during the during the game, and then I 1:13:47.600 --> 1:13:50.519 saw that not only that, but the crackers are legal 1:13:50.560 --> 1:13:53.040 seafood too. So did you have some I didn't I well, 1:13:53.080 --> 1:13:54.960 I'd already eaten in that point, but I'm gonna work it, 1:13:55.000 --> 1:13:56.439 and I'm gonna I mean, I love clam chowder. 1:13:56.600 --> 1:13:59.360 Matt Morrell's giving the thumbs up. Yeah, good stuff in 1:13:59.439 --> 1:14:05.040 a bread bull, good stuff bread game, So that that'll 1:14:05.120 --> 1:14:08.840 be for me. Every game is a little cup of 1:14:09.240 --> 1:14:10.639 legal seafood. Clam chowder. 1:14:10.760 --> 1:14:13.360 That is a thread, that's a Freddy staple, a cup 1:14:13.439 --> 1:14:15.439 of chowder, hot. 1:14:15.320 --> 1:14:16.360 Dog, it's all coming again. 1:14:16.400 --> 1:14:18.519 We don't have hot dogs, but when we're on the 1:14:18.600 --> 1:14:23.120 road and popcorn, popcorn, yeah, cracker jacks. I mean every 1:14:23.160 --> 1:14:26.320 press box should have a hot dog, yeah right and popcorn. Right, 1:14:26.720 --> 1:14:28.720 just have that rolling thing where they don't forget the 1:14:28.760 --> 1:14:32.160 postgame show donut. Well, I know, but I'm just talking about, well, 1:14:32.520 --> 1:14:36.280 you know a little stale sports writers need to eat 1:14:36.439 --> 1:14:37.040 hot dogs. 1:14:38.600 --> 1:14:40.360 Well, they finally got it together with the candy bar, 1:14:40.600 --> 1:14:42.639 so they have candy behind the bars. Pretty good. 1:14:42.680 --> 1:14:46.000 It's okay, it's the mini ones, but it's had like 1:14:46.080 --> 1:14:49.599 six pieces and that was like I got a whole 1:14:49.680 --> 1:14:50.800 candy store set up. 1:14:50.960 --> 1:14:54.400 Yeah, for one of our social team members will name anonymous, 1:14:55.120 --> 1:14:57.280 Like he opened his bag and he just had like 1:14:57.439 --> 1:15:00.640 all the candy from the Vagas press spe you're supposed to. 1:15:00.760 --> 1:15:07.439 Yeah, that's you know, that's not the spirit market. 1:15:07.680 --> 1:15:11.639 Well, it's funny how you know the press behaves. Back 1:15:11.720 --> 1:15:15.280 in the day in the old stadium, we had a 1:15:15.360 --> 1:15:19.960 press crew that was just motley. You know, you had 1:15:20.120 --> 1:15:22.760 you had your real pros like Borgeous and Mannix and 1:15:22.880 --> 1:15:25.360 in those guys, but you had a lot of people 1:15:25.439 --> 1:15:27.559 there that should not have been in that press box, 1:15:27.640 --> 1:15:30.200 that had credentials and you know, they needed to fill 1:15:30.280 --> 1:15:32.320 the thing. No one was covering the Patriots back in 1:15:32.360 --> 1:15:34.639 those days. But you'd have old guys that would come 1:15:34.880 --> 1:15:38.880 with those old old school briefcases and the only reason 1:15:38.960 --> 1:15:40.840 they had that briefcase was to load it up with 1:15:40.920 --> 1:15:44.280 media guides and anything that wasn't nailed down for their grandkids. 1:15:44.840 --> 1:15:48.240 I mean, it was just thievery going on, you know. 1:15:49.280 --> 1:15:51.080 They did they have like the typewriters back then, like 1:15:51.160 --> 1:15:54.040 you could gear like it wasn't quite that bad. 1:15:54.280 --> 1:15:59.400 But back then when I when I first started, they 1:15:59.439 --> 1:16:02.960 were still all word processors. They weren't laptops yet. They 1:16:03.000 --> 1:16:08.040 were like the radio shack candy trash. Yeah, yeah, that's 1:16:08.080 --> 1:16:10.120 what I first used at the Herald. Yeah, so they 1:16:10.160 --> 1:16:13.360 were laptops yet, but they were transitioning at that time 1:16:13.479 --> 1:16:15.639 to word processors. 1:16:15.080 --> 1:16:17.800 And you you hooked it up to a phone line 1:16:18.240 --> 1:16:22.120 and that's how you that's how that's how you transmitted 1:16:22.160 --> 1:16:24.240 your story. It didn't make that noise. It wasn't like 1:16:25.400 --> 1:16:26.720 but it was. 1:16:27.240 --> 1:16:30.080 It was a process, and it wasn't it wasn't it 1:16:30.160 --> 1:16:30.919 wasn't seamless. 1:16:31.400 --> 1:16:35.240 I am just old enough to know that noise and 1:16:35.800 --> 1:16:36.840 know some of these things. 1:16:37.000 --> 1:16:40.519 I feel like that those are heady times. It was great, 1:16:40.560 --> 1:16:41.680 you're on the new frontier. 1:16:42.080 --> 1:16:42.240 You know. 1:16:42.439 --> 1:16:46.759 I had a compact computer that the keyboard would would 1:16:47.320 --> 1:16:50.519 fold up into the box which was the computer and 1:16:50.600 --> 1:16:53.280 you had to handle on it's like a big briefcase. 1:16:55.280 --> 1:16:55.479 Yeah. 1:16:55.600 --> 1:16:58.960 It had a screen about this big. And I had 1:16:59.080 --> 1:17:02.479 my dial up and CompuServe service. 1:17:03.040 --> 1:17:06.559 I think about that a lot, like we're we're jumping 1:17:06.600 --> 1:17:10.120 on a moving train as younger media folks, right, you 1:17:10.160 --> 1:17:12.280 know all the people you know. I knew somebody when 1:17:12.320 --> 1:17:15.320 I lived out in LA who started at ESPN. When 1:17:15.520 --> 1:17:18.439 ESPN started, they had a very successful career as a 1:17:18.600 --> 1:17:22.920 as a a producer in the sports TV business and like, 1:17:23.800 --> 1:17:26.080 but he got in on the ground floor, whereas like 1:17:26.160 --> 1:17:29.960 people aren't my age and younger. It's already there's nothing 1:17:30.000 --> 1:17:33.439 else to do, like it's already, yeah, it's already here. 1:17:33.640 --> 1:17:37.080 Listen. I remember I'm old enough to remember when TV 1:17:37.280 --> 1:17:38.759 went from black and white to color. 1:17:40.479 --> 1:17:44.439 I had a black and white TV, you know, when 1:17:44.439 --> 1:17:45.320 I was very young. 1:17:45.240 --> 1:17:48.479 And the first show that I watched in color was 1:17:48.600 --> 1:17:51.960 Lost in Space, and I remember they made a huge deal. 1:17:52.120 --> 1:17:53.720 You know, the next episode is going to be in 1:17:53.840 --> 1:17:57.160 living color, and uh, you know you gathered around your 1:17:57.200 --> 1:18:00.600 TV to see Lost in Space and color was it 1:18:00.720 --> 1:18:00.960 was like what. 1:18:01.080 --> 1:18:02.080 Was it the movie Diner? 1:18:02.240 --> 1:18:06.479 I think Diner in the movie and uh, the guy 1:18:06.520 --> 1:18:08.360 comes out and goes saw the pont de ros A 1:18:08.520 --> 1:18:11.560 and color TV look faked like he because it was 1:18:11.680 --> 1:18:13.800 like set back in the sixties and that that was 1:18:13.880 --> 1:18:15.120 like the whole thing, Like all of a sudden, you 1:18:15.120 --> 1:18:17.120 would see these shows for the first time in color 1:18:17.200 --> 1:18:18.040 and it looked different. 1:18:18.360 --> 1:18:22.479 Loving the AARP Show, Yeah, I think about that. 1:18:22.520 --> 1:18:24.920 You think, though, like what you know, like what's the 1:18:25.040 --> 1:18:27.240 next thing? Like you know, you want to be first 1:18:27.320 --> 1:18:30.280 to the next thing that happens in media and everything's 1:18:30.360 --> 1:18:32.200 kind of already been done, so like you have to 1:18:32.520 --> 1:18:36.200 It's like AI you know, thanks, Yeah, that's I. 1:18:36.200 --> 1:18:37.920 Don't I don't want the next thing. The next thing 1:18:38.040 --> 1:18:38.519 is going to make. 1:18:38.520 --> 1:18:41.360 Us all about this a I think it's going to 1:18:41.360 --> 1:18:41.799 be everywhere. 1:18:41.840 --> 1:18:42.200 I don't know. 1:18:42.560 --> 1:18:45.400 Well, I think with these robots that they're building, Oh yeah, 1:18:45.479 --> 1:18:47.840 I think there's going to be a huge percentage of 1:18:47.920 --> 1:18:50.160 men who are never going to leave their house. Oh yeah, sure. 1:18:50.280 --> 1:18:53.920 And you know, oh yeah why because it doesn't talk back. 1:18:54.240 --> 1:18:56.600 It does exactly what you wanted to do when you 1:18:56.760 --> 1:18:57.479 wanted to do it. 1:18:57.720 --> 1:19:01.599 I just I really love the Terminator. Be a bunch 1:19:01.640 --> 1:19:04.479 of No, you're gonna live in a virtual space where 1:19:04.479 --> 1:19:06.000 you like come into the world. I mean maybe you 1:19:06.000 --> 1:19:07.720 don't even You just hook yourself up to like a 1:19:07.840 --> 1:19:09.680 tube to feed you and you're just living in this 1:19:09.800 --> 1:19:10.519 virtual reality. 1:19:10.560 --> 1:19:11.080 We're not good. 1:19:11.680 --> 1:19:13.599 It's not good tube now. 1:19:14.200 --> 1:19:16.920 And you know, you see all the depictions of aliens 1:19:16.960 --> 1:19:19.640 from the future, and they have these big eyes and 1:19:19.760 --> 1:19:23.000 long fingers, because that's all you gotta need. That's how 1:19:23.040 --> 1:19:23.880 we're going to evolve. 1:19:24.080 --> 1:19:24.639 Oh gosh. 1:19:24.880 --> 1:19:26.720 I just, I mean, I love the Terminator growing up, 1:19:26.760 --> 1:19:28.280 but I really am starting to feel like I might 1:19:28.320 --> 1:19:31.040 be living in like a Terminator situation and then not too, Dissy. 1:19:31.080 --> 1:19:32.880 You know we're gonna we're gonna be getting chased by 1:19:33.040 --> 1:19:34.240 a hunter killers. 1:19:33.920 --> 1:19:36.080 And Elon says, we're all thinking of it too negatively. 1:19:36.160 --> 1:19:37.760 It's supposed to be more positive than this. 1:19:38.120 --> 1:19:40.599 Okay, I know, but it seems kind of terminator. 1:19:40.680 --> 1:19:42.400 Think about it as you'll be living in your living 1:19:42.439 --> 1:19:43.800 room one day and say, oh, I want to play 1:19:43.880 --> 1:19:45.599 this video game and you'll type it in your computer 1:19:45.680 --> 1:19:47.320 and your computer will make the video urity for you. 1:19:47.680 --> 1:19:51.640 And I'm sure, but you know there's gonna be a 1:19:51.680 --> 1:19:54.479 lot of bad things too. I think I don't know. Anyway, 1:19:54.680 --> 1:19:57.160 All right, back to the phones, we go a five 1:19:57.200 --> 1:19:58.360 to five, pats five hundred. 1:19:58.360 --> 1:19:59.840 I'm gonna get this show started. Let's go. 1:20:00.120 --> 1:20:03.599 Yeah, and who better to do that than Christian in La. 1:20:04.040 --> 1:20:04.840 What's up Christian? 1:20:05.040 --> 1:20:08.120 You guys, You guys, what's up boys? 1:20:08.160 --> 1:20:08.719 Hey, you guys. 1:20:08.760 --> 1:20:08.880 Hey. 1:20:08.960 --> 1:20:11.679 So the next thing really is going to be this sort. 1:20:11.520 --> 1:20:16.160 Of holographic technology where instead of having an actual guest 1:20:16.280 --> 1:20:19.240 on the show, you'll have the hologram of the guests 1:20:19.280 --> 1:20:19.639 on the show. 1:20:19.640 --> 1:20:21.640 And I think they already did that with Brady, didn't they. 1:20:22.520 --> 1:20:24.880 Well, they have had forms of it, but it's not 1:20:25.000 --> 1:20:26.840 it's it's not as good as I think. 1:20:26.840 --> 1:20:28.960 Fox did it though, right because he's at the game 1:20:29.120 --> 1:20:30.760 calling the game and then did it. 1:20:30.800 --> 1:20:31.599 A long time ago. 1:20:31.880 --> 1:20:35.960 Yeah, the next generation is you got. 1:20:36.479 --> 1:20:37.360 You won't be believe it. 1:20:37.439 --> 1:20:40.000 I was in the place called three sixty Labs here 1:20:40.040 --> 1:20:43.960 in l A and they are just it's it's amazing. 1:20:44.000 --> 1:20:46.320 I was able to walk around that they had already 1:20:46.360 --> 1:20:49.600 playing guitar. I was able to walk all the way around. 1:20:49.439 --> 1:20:53.599 Him front back side, and it was like phenomenal. But anyway, yeah, 1:20:53.680 --> 1:20:57.880 that's next, that's next generation. On the football, I watched 1:20:58.000 --> 1:21:02.479 the the CULTU preseason game. I know it's just preseason game, 1:21:02.560 --> 1:21:06.040 but what I really thought was that we have just 1:21:06.200 --> 1:21:10.640 a complete lack of ability to stop the run bouncing outside. 1:21:10.840 --> 1:21:16.240 I saw Gay Jackass get beat, you know, but whatever 1:21:16.320 --> 1:21:21.120 his name is going to be, or Jackets what his 1:21:21.240 --> 1:21:23.160 name is, I tell him get beat several times to 1:21:23.240 --> 1:21:25.720 the outside. I didn't see anyone else be able to 1:21:25.840 --> 1:21:28.840 really stop that bounced out play that ken Walker killed 1:21:28.920 --> 1:21:32.640 us with. And I'm wondering what's our plan for that? 1:21:32.760 --> 1:21:35.320 Because he can't be our only plan and I banged 1:21:35.360 --> 1:21:37.680 up Haro Landry can't be our only plan. Second thing, 1:21:37.920 --> 1:21:41.679 was do you think they did not play Kaishan Booty 1:21:41.800 --> 1:21:44.759 really because they're trying to preserve him. 1:21:44.680 --> 1:21:46.000 Or save him for a trade. 1:21:46.400 --> 1:21:49.200 And if they do, is they're possibly. 1:21:48.920 --> 1:21:53.720 A rangye outside line a rangy inside linebacker that we 1:21:53.800 --> 1:21:54.920 can get for coverage. 1:21:54.960 --> 1:21:58.800 That my second question, and then lastly is this what 1:21:59.000 --> 1:21:59.880 is this team going to stick? 1:22:01.000 --> 1:22:03.280 Put his chest out, you know, bring a shoulders back 1:22:03.280 --> 1:22:05.880 and say, you know what, we did win the AFC 1:22:06.240 --> 1:22:08.720 Champion Conference championship last year. I don't know if we've 1:22:08.840 --> 1:22:11.320 teams raised the banner for that, but we've allowed this 1:22:11.520 --> 1:22:14.320 narrative that we've gotten lucky that it was to schedule 1:22:14.360 --> 1:22:16.960 all this craft from last year to really move forward 1:22:17.040 --> 1:22:19.920 this year. And I haven't seen the team itself sort 1:22:19.960 --> 1:22:22.320 of grab the narrative of you know what, we are 1:22:22.400 --> 1:22:26.120 here because we belong. So I'm just wondering, though, you know. 1:22:26.320 --> 1:22:27.640 What do you want them to do? 1:22:27.800 --> 1:22:28.240 Talking for you? 1:22:29.800 --> 1:22:31.160 What what do you want them to do? 1:22:32.720 --> 1:22:32.880 You know? 1:22:33.000 --> 1:22:35.200 I just want them to sort of go into this 1:22:35.360 --> 1:22:39.080 joint practice with the Eagles feeling like champions, like playing 1:22:39.160 --> 1:22:41.200 like like with that sort of areror And it doesn't 1:22:41.280 --> 1:22:43.280 seem like we have that as the team is seen 1:22:43.320 --> 1:22:45.519 like we're sort of backing into it, or we're allowing 1:22:45.600 --> 1:22:47.960 this year, Well, we'll see what happens this year. 1:22:48.960 --> 1:22:50.360 And the Eagles coming in. 1:22:50.479 --> 1:22:54.120 These guys are going to be you know, flying flying around. 1:22:54.200 --> 1:22:55.559 So I don't know what I want to see. 1:22:56.000 --> 1:22:58.760 Had that feeling, Yeah, all right, I okay, So you 1:22:58.840 --> 1:23:02.720 want to you want to see AFC Championship swagger? I 1:23:02.800 --> 1:23:03.720 guess I don't know. 1:23:03.960 --> 1:23:05.000 I think they have some swagger. 1:23:05.160 --> 1:23:06.200 Yeah, they have plenty of it. 1:23:06.280 --> 1:23:08.000 I think there'll be a lot of back and forth 1:23:08.120 --> 1:23:08.799 and talking. 1:23:09.240 --> 1:23:12.439 It's yeah, it's the summer still, you know, I don't 1:23:12.560 --> 1:23:18.000 really you know, Vrabel decided that the starters weren't going 1:23:18.040 --> 1:23:21.600 to play. I had no issue with any of that. 1:23:21.840 --> 1:23:24.200 You know, Kaishan Boody did actually play in the game. 1:23:24.280 --> 1:23:27.720 He played, They did not target him. Yeah, And I 1:23:27.800 --> 1:23:29.840 do think there's a couple of ways of looking at that. 1:23:30.000 --> 1:23:32.040 Maybe they were trying to make sure that he stayed healthy. 1:23:33.320 --> 1:23:34.800 You know, I think you could make an argument the 1:23:34.880 --> 1:23:37.000 other way and say, you know, maybe feed him, you know, 1:23:37.080 --> 1:23:38.920 three or four catches early in the game. You might 1:23:39.200 --> 1:23:41.360 get on the radar and someone might say, hey, he's 1:23:41.439 --> 1:23:43.559 expendable in New England, we should go and get that guy. 1:23:43.840 --> 1:23:46.400 I don't know I could be convinced of that either way. 1:23:47.080 --> 1:23:50.680 I don't think you're getting like you're not getting a 1:23:50.720 --> 1:23:54.320 significant piece for Kaishan Boody right now in trade. I 1:23:54.360 --> 1:23:57.760 mean you're just not well not a first like people. 1:23:57.920 --> 1:24:01.200 He's looking for a rangy inside linebacker. So was every 1:24:01.240 --> 1:24:02.920 other team in the league by the way, you know, 1:24:03.200 --> 1:24:06.200 minus one or two that have them. But you're not 1:24:06.280 --> 1:24:08.920 getting a starting caliber player for Kayshaun Boody. 1:24:09.640 --> 1:24:11.439 Yeah, I mean, I just keep saying the same thing 1:24:11.520 --> 1:24:13.559 with him, like, don't you think he would have already 1:24:13.560 --> 1:24:15.120 been dealt if they had a good offer on the 1:24:15.160 --> 1:24:17.240 table for him, Like if they had a high draft 1:24:17.320 --> 1:24:20.320 pick or a player for player trade that that was 1:24:20.360 --> 1:24:23.639 that caliber. With all the rumors and all the even 1:24:23.720 --> 1:24:26.960 Kishon Boody kind of admitting at the microphone multiple times 1:24:27.000 --> 1:24:28.160 that there's. 1:24:27.800 --> 1:24:30.320 Most recently, Yeah when is it Monday? 1:24:30.560 --> 1:24:30.760 Yeah? 1:24:31.040 --> 1:24:31.519 Yesterday? 1:24:31.960 --> 1:24:34.439 Yeah, I think that you would have already been traded 1:24:35.000 --> 1:24:37.439 if they had a great offer for him. On the 1:24:37.600 --> 1:24:40.519 edge thing, I'll come to Agus's defense like a little bit. 1:24:40.880 --> 1:24:43.759 I thought some of them, especially the twenty two yarder, 1:24:44.240 --> 1:24:47.519 the readoption with Richardson, I thought that that was like 1:24:47.640 --> 1:24:49.280 they had like kind of a play on there with 1:24:49.360 --> 1:24:52.599 him and John Saunders the safety and Akis was assigned 1:24:52.600 --> 1:24:55.519 to the back and Sanders was assigned to the edge, 1:24:55.560 --> 1:24:57.560 And I didn't actually think he blew the edge on 1:24:57.640 --> 1:25:00.720 that one particular play. But you know, he is a 1:25:01.560 --> 1:25:03.760 right now, he's the guy that needs to learn how 1:25:03.800 --> 1:25:06.680 to where he's going and how to harness it. 1:25:06.880 --> 1:25:08.960 And that was one of the very few players that 1:25:09.160 --> 1:25:12.040 was on the field that I think potentially will play. 1:25:11.880 --> 1:25:13.599 A role on defense. 1:25:13.680 --> 1:25:16.320 There weren't a lot of regular players playing in the 1:25:16.360 --> 1:25:18.880 game that are going to be big parts of what 1:25:18.960 --> 1:25:19.960 they do in twenty six. 1:25:20.080 --> 1:25:21.760 Acus Is won in the criticism. 1:25:22.160 --> 1:25:25.280 I think Rabel would agree with Christian that they wasn't 1:25:25.360 --> 1:25:28.680 a put his best foot forward. But you know, he 1:25:29.000 --> 1:25:32.760 did have an abbreviated start, you know to camp. Let's 1:25:32.840 --> 1:25:34.439 let him get his feet set. I mean, I think 1:25:34.479 --> 1:25:36.200 if you're in the you know, the middle of November 1:25:36.479 --> 1:25:38.439 and you've got nothing out of Gay Bacus, then I 1:25:38.479 --> 1:25:40.840 think that's worth saying, like he's you know, maybe did 1:25:40.880 --> 1:25:43.680 we oversell this second round pick, but right now not 1:25:43.960 --> 1:25:45.080 too concerned about him. 1:25:45.280 --> 1:25:46.840 Yeah, I didn't. I guess I just didn't have a 1:25:46.920 --> 1:25:49.120 ton of concern about him setting the edge against the run. 1:25:49.720 --> 1:25:51.479 He had a couple of screens in his direction that 1:25:51.560 --> 1:25:52.639 I thought he could have played. 1:25:52.400 --> 1:25:52.920 A little bit better. 1:25:52.920 --> 1:25:54.840 I don't think he played great, and then. 1:25:54.800 --> 1:25:57.320 The quarterback got out of the pocket and his direction 1:25:57.439 --> 1:25:59.519 on one play at Richardson got out of the pocket. 1:26:00.280 --> 1:26:03.160 But if you're looking for a guy that's gonna set 1:26:03.200 --> 1:26:05.280 a sturdy edge and not let the running back bounce 1:26:05.360 --> 1:26:07.080 like Kenneth Walker did in the Super Bowl, then I 1:26:07.160 --> 1:26:08.600 think Akus is gonna be able to do that. 1:26:08.840 --> 1:26:10.479 And Draymond Jones, I think we'll be able to do 1:26:10.560 --> 1:26:12.719 it on the other side. He didn't mention Christian didn't 1:26:12.760 --> 1:26:17.840 mention him. Yeah, I mean, stopping the run wasn't an 1:26:17.880 --> 1:26:22.519 issue last year obviously until it mattered most, to be 1:26:22.600 --> 1:26:24.639 honest with you, I mean they struggled when Milton Williams 1:26:24.680 --> 1:26:28.120 went out of the lineup down the stretch, but in 1:26:28.240 --> 1:26:31.720 the playoffs the Super Bowl, obviously it was a huge 1:26:31.720 --> 1:26:33.640 problem with Kenneth Walker had a big game, but it 1:26:33.800 --> 1:26:36.320 wasn't really an issue for the vast majority of the season. 1:26:36.360 --> 1:26:39.240 They had that long stretch where he couldn't even give 1:26:39.320 --> 1:26:40.760 up a fifty yard rusher. 1:26:40.560 --> 1:26:42.840 Which is funny because that they came out of the 1:26:43.120 --> 1:26:45.120 training camp like that. We just talked about how there 1:26:45.200 --> 1:26:47.120 was an area that they had a soft training camp, 1:26:47.160 --> 1:26:48.599 but they were okay at the stop and the run 1:26:49.040 --> 1:26:50.920 until they weren't. It's so hard to pin it down. 1:26:51.600 --> 1:26:53.439 I just I think people need to look at Elijah 1:26:53.439 --> 1:26:55.640 Ponder more. I think it's a lot more about how 1:26:55.720 --> 1:26:58.200 Elijah Ponder does this year than how gay Achus does. 1:26:58.360 --> 1:26:59.920 I think gave Acis can work his way in. 1:27:00.040 --> 1:27:02.200 To a rotation fresh take. 1:27:02.360 --> 1:27:05.880 Yeah, but I I think, but I don't. We're not 1:27:05.960 --> 1:27:07.920 really talking about him, and I think the coaching staff 1:27:08.000 --> 1:27:10.280 seems pretty high on him, and they you know, he's 1:27:10.320 --> 1:27:12.439 been bright in there as the as the starter off 1:27:12.479 --> 1:27:15.639 the edge, opposite of Draymond Jones. You know, even if 1:27:15.760 --> 1:27:18.600 Landry comes back, how much can you truly expect to 1:27:18.680 --> 1:27:20.880 get from him. So in a perfect world, I think 1:27:20.920 --> 1:27:23.920 Elijah Ponder has a really breakout kind of a season 1:27:24.040 --> 1:27:26.360 and gives them some juice off the edge and gives 1:27:26.400 --> 1:27:29.880 them solid edge play. You know, Draymond Jones is fine, 1:27:29.960 --> 1:27:32.479 Like I think he's a sturdy player. But when we 1:27:32.560 --> 1:27:35.639 talk about guys getting not winning, one on ones from 1:27:35.640 --> 1:27:37.599 the defensive side. A lot of times it's Will Campbell 1:27:37.600 --> 1:27:39.760 take and Draymond Jones and I he's seeing him get tossed, 1:27:40.880 --> 1:27:42.519 you know. So it's and look, and I think they 1:27:42.560 --> 1:27:44.640 can piece it all together. They did it last year. 1:27:44.680 --> 1:27:46.240 They can blitz and they'll run a bunch of stunts 1:27:46.240 --> 1:27:48.160 and stuff to figure out a way. But look, in 1:27:48.240 --> 1:27:51.120 a perfect world, you have a dude on the edge 1:27:51.479 --> 1:27:53.640 that cannot be blocked single one on one. And then 1:27:53.680 --> 1:27:57.040 when you have that complimentary Milton Williams and Christian Barber 1:27:57.080 --> 1:27:58.920 are now you're really starting to cook with gas. So 1:27:59.439 --> 1:28:01.200 you know, that's that's that's it gonna be an it. 1:28:01.240 --> 1:28:05.320 And at least platoon ponder Akis, Like I think Ponder's 1:28:05.560 --> 1:28:07.680 a little bit better pass rusher, acts a little bit 1:28:07.720 --> 1:28:10.200 of better run defender, you know, at least if those 1:28:10.280 --> 1:28:12.360 guys can end up in sort of some sort of 1:28:12.439 --> 1:28:13.960 rotation or platoon with each other. 1:28:14.720 --> 1:28:14.840 Uh. 1:28:14.960 --> 1:28:17.479 And obviously Jones will play a lot on the other side. 1:28:18.080 --> 1:28:21.320 I just I have so little expectation for Harold Andry 1:28:21.680 --> 1:28:23.600 bringing anything that I think that it's going to be 1:28:23.640 --> 1:28:26.680 a lot of those two guys and maybe they can, 1:28:26.960 --> 1:28:29.479 like you know, Ponder's the better pass rusher, so he's 1:28:29.520 --> 1:28:31.960 gonna play in passing situations. And Akis is the better 1:28:32.040 --> 1:28:34.880 run defender, so he's gonna play and run situations, and 1:28:34.960 --> 1:28:37.760 they can kind of piece together a starter out of 1:28:37.800 --> 1:28:38.360 those two guys. 1:28:38.400 --> 1:28:40.839 See a little bit of Q. Hutchins too, like dabbling 1:28:40.960 --> 1:28:42.400 with some of those russ with that has. 1:28:42.320 --> 1:28:44.439 Some pretty good reps in one on ones because he's 1:28:44.479 --> 1:28:47.080 got the speed, uh, and he can play special teams. 1:28:47.200 --> 1:28:48.840 He's a really good special teams player. 1:28:49.120 --> 1:28:49.320 Yeah. 1:28:49.400 --> 1:28:49.800 I like that. 1:28:50.479 --> 1:28:52.600 Well, if he's gonna make the roster, he's gonna make 1:28:52.640 --> 1:28:54.840 it covering kicks and he's really good at that, and 1:28:54.920 --> 1:28:56.200 then he's got a little bit of juice in the 1:28:56.240 --> 1:28:59.080 pass rush. So maybe they can develop him behind the 1:28:59.120 --> 1:29:01.439 scenes as a pass rusher and then allow him to 1:29:01.479 --> 1:29:02.080 play on kicking. 1:29:02.360 --> 1:29:04.960 And I kind of liked Swinson. How Swinson was moving 1:29:05.000 --> 1:29:07.880 in the game he played Late didn't feel like, you know, 1:29:08.080 --> 1:29:10.479 it was he's one of those guys that's in Late, 1:29:10.640 --> 1:29:12.560 but I don't know. I kind of liked how he 1:29:12.680 --> 1:29:13.720 was moving and playing a little bit. 1:29:13.760 --> 1:29:16.240 The only guy I liked off the edge in that 1:29:16.400 --> 1:29:19.479 game was Luketta, Jesse Luketta, who has. I mean, he 1:29:19.600 --> 1:29:21.920 should look better at that stage. Mike and I talked 1:29:21.920 --> 1:29:23.960 about this a little bit at practice. You can sort 1:29:24.000 --> 1:29:26.160 of see a difference with a guy who has kicked 1:29:26.200 --> 1:29:28.439 around the league for a year or two. Yeah, as 1:29:28.479 --> 1:29:31.600 opposed to the undrafted rookie who's playing, you know, in 1:29:31.640 --> 1:29:34.080 a full stadium NFL stadium for the first time. 1:29:34.479 --> 1:29:36.280 And I thought Luketto was one of those guys. 1:29:36.600 --> 1:29:40.400 Mike brought up Hassan Haskins as a running back, you know, yeah, 1:29:40.439 --> 1:29:42.600 maybe it looked like a little bit better than like 1:29:42.760 --> 1:29:46.519 Lean Larrison and Jim Miller did, Which makes sense because 1:29:46.720 --> 1:29:48.880 he's playing against guys that have never been in the 1:29:48.960 --> 1:29:51.479 league late in the preseason game and he has some 1:29:51.640 --> 1:29:55.120 NFL experience. I don't necessarily think that those guys are going. 1:29:55.040 --> 1:29:58.320 To factor in. Like Luketta, I mean, I think. 1:30:00.280 --> 1:30:03.080 Could be the kick returner. He's got twenty running back 1:30:03.680 --> 1:30:05.880 twenty eight career kick returns. You know, they want a 1:30:05.960 --> 1:30:06.960 running back in that role. 1:30:07.360 --> 1:30:10.040 Yeah, maybe that's that's how he finds a roster, stands 1:30:10.080 --> 1:30:10.720 out in that group. 1:30:10.880 --> 1:30:13.200 Because I thought Jan Miller ran it pretty well. I 1:30:13.240 --> 1:30:16.479 thought he was fine in the but then they signed 1:30:16.520 --> 1:30:19.800 Haskins and he was immediately taking reps in practice from 1:30:19.880 --> 1:30:23.799 jam Miller. Yep, so I wonder if that is already. 1:30:24.600 --> 1:30:27.439 I don't know that they really like Haskins. It was 1:30:27.479 --> 1:30:29.960 like immediate that he came into practice and was getting work. 1:30:31.200 --> 1:30:36.360 Jeffson Maine. What's up, Jeff, Hey, now he now So 1:30:37.479 --> 1:30:37.680 some of. 1:30:37.640 --> 1:30:40.120 The things you just said probably answered my questions already, 1:30:40.160 --> 1:30:42.560 But okay, I was wondering if there was who the 1:30:42.600 --> 1:30:47.799 third running back might be, whether it would be Larson, 1:30:47.880 --> 1:30:51.760 Miller or Haskins or you know, in my opinion to 1:30:51.840 --> 1:30:55.040 keep four if you can, but probably too much with Gilliam. 1:30:55.520 --> 1:31:00.920 And the other quick question would be if Lanes the time, 1:31:01.320 --> 1:31:03.559 who is their backup with Gibbons now gone. I think 1:31:03.600 --> 1:31:04.479 he went to the Cardinals. 1:31:04.920 --> 1:31:07.400 M hm, that's all I have, all right, thanks Jeff. 1:31:07.680 --> 1:31:10.400 Yeah, I mean talking about the preseason game, Chad Mummer 1:31:10.520 --> 1:31:12.960 really struggled and then now he's been hurt, so maybe 1:31:12.960 --> 1:31:15.439 it was injury related that he struggled, but he he 1:31:15.520 --> 1:31:17.960 had a rough game on Thursday night and kJ Britt 1:31:18.000 --> 1:31:20.320 made a couple of plays back to back that caught 1:31:21.000 --> 1:31:21.360 at camp. 1:31:21.439 --> 1:31:21.920 Hadn't seen it. 1:31:22.080 --> 1:31:25.519 Yeah, obviously they like Khalil Jacobs really reads the run 1:31:25.640 --> 1:31:29.120 really well as fast, processor plays quick, But I don't 1:31:29.120 --> 1:31:31.800 know if he's ready as an undrafted rookie to play 1:31:32.280 --> 1:31:34.640 like a third linebacker. Roller going to play a little bit. 1:31:34.720 --> 1:31:37.240 Yeah, And even Obi Eiser was getting some you know 1:31:37.400 --> 1:31:39.599 reps yesterday a little bit. I mean just I don't 1:31:39.600 --> 1:31:41.960 know what that means, but I think it's a long 1:31:42.040 --> 1:31:44.160 term need. Christian talked about trying to trade for one 1:31:44.200 --> 1:31:46.000 of these guys. I don't think that's on their docket. 1:31:46.120 --> 1:31:48.120 I think they'd be okay with Spulling and Ellis for 1:31:48.200 --> 1:31:50.840 the season, but that is the great question, you know. 1:31:50.960 --> 1:31:52.639 I think he is going to factor into that mix. 1:31:53.080 --> 1:31:58.400 Del Pettis, Yeah, yeah, safe box if they need, like 1:31:58.520 --> 1:32:00.280 if they have to go down the depth shot and 1:32:00.479 --> 1:32:02.640 do some different things. I've seen him out there in 1:32:02.720 --> 1:32:04.720 the middle, and that's the role that he's in, is 1:32:04.800 --> 1:32:07.760 what Evan just said, like sort of the box safety guy. 1:32:08.760 --> 1:32:11.479 And I thought it was interesting today Reggie Gilliam talked 1:32:13.360 --> 1:32:17.400 and he was talking about sort of fullback being one 1:32:17.439 --> 1:32:20.200 of those positions you kind of have to play. Like 1:32:20.760 --> 1:32:23.360 these reps in preseason are kind of valuable for him 1:32:23.360 --> 1:32:25.679 because there's a feel and like you need to sort 1:32:25.720 --> 1:32:30.080 of learn the linebackers, and he mentioned Spallane, Yeah, hellas 1:32:30.680 --> 1:32:34.240 and Pettis, Yeah, those are the three names he mentioned. 1:32:34.320 --> 1:32:38.639 Pettis can hit like Pettis hits and brings it. John 1:32:38.680 --> 1:32:41.479 Sounder is probably more athletic and play more in coverage. 1:32:41.520 --> 1:32:43.920 I would say more. They're a type of player in 1:32:44.000 --> 1:32:47.440 terms of playing deep and covering tight ends and receivers 1:32:47.479 --> 1:32:50.120 out of the slot. But if you want to like 1:32:50.240 --> 1:32:54.320 a true downhill box safety, then Pettis probably fits that. 1:32:54.439 --> 1:32:56.479 And I think Mike Brown has kind of gotten passed 1:32:56.520 --> 1:32:59.880 over at this point by those two guys. But big 1:33:00.080 --> 1:33:02.880 Nickel three safety looks. It's like I think that they're 1:33:02.960 --> 1:33:05.160 trying to get to that. It's just do they have 1:33:05.360 --> 1:33:07.680 the third safety to do it as much as they 1:33:07.760 --> 1:33:08.760 think they want to that. 1:33:08.960 --> 1:33:11.680 I mean, you know, countering heavy personnel yesterday. I mean 1:33:11.720 --> 1:33:13.840 that's you know, he's kind of the dimeback right now. 1:33:13.960 --> 1:33:16.360 And you know, I like that player and I but 1:33:17.040 --> 1:33:18.800 I think this is an area I talked about going 1:33:18.840 --> 1:33:20.760 into camp. Are they stuck in Nickel? Are they kind 1:33:20.800 --> 1:33:23.040 of you know, they don't really del Pettis no no 1:33:23.080 --> 1:33:24.840 offense to him, Like he's been around for a little 1:33:24.880 --> 1:33:26.320 bit and he kind of is winning it. I mean, 1:33:26.320 --> 1:33:28.200 he's having a good camp. I think he's been active. 1:33:28.280 --> 1:33:30.760 But you know, I just once you get beyond their 1:33:30.800 --> 1:33:33.760 base nickel and you're talking about taking Marcus Jones off 1:33:33.800 --> 1:33:36.280 the field, just I'd love to have a little bit 1:33:36.320 --> 1:33:38.360 more promising depth that you feel like, man, it'd be 1:33:38.360 --> 1:33:40.280 great to be able to get this dime back on 1:33:40.320 --> 1:33:41.840 the field. He's a rookie, but he looks like he 1:33:41.880 --> 1:33:44.479 can play. And I'm sure the extreme will be how 1:33:44.520 --> 1:33:46.240 they felt about even more Y last year, where like, 1:33:46.320 --> 1:33:47.519 this guy, we got to get him on the field. 1:33:47.520 --> 1:33:48.559 He's going to change our defense. 1:33:48.720 --> 1:33:50.400 That that's I think the question is that you know, 1:33:50.479 --> 1:33:53.400 we've seen them experiment with pure base like you know, 1:33:53.479 --> 1:33:56.680 real base defense. Muma has been the third linebacker for 1:33:56.760 --> 1:34:00.000 the most part in base. They've also experimented with three safe. 1:34:00.360 --> 1:34:02.959 But the teams that run a lot of three safety, Seattle, 1:34:03.120 --> 1:34:07.640 the Chargers, Baltimore, it's I Minori, Derwin James, and you 1:34:07.720 --> 1:34:11.519 bring the Kylembt like it's studs that are playing that 1:34:11.720 --> 1:34:14.840 Nickel role. I don't know if del Pettis or John 1:34:14.960 --> 1:34:18.680 Saunders is really good enough for that. So you know, 1:34:18.760 --> 1:34:21.120 It's great in theory to want to do that with 1:34:21.240 --> 1:34:24.280 how teams are loading up offensively with the tight ends, 1:34:24.320 --> 1:34:26.760 but like, do they really have the horses to do it? 1:34:26.840 --> 1:34:29.320 A lot so too with Charles Woods, like he's been 1:34:29.360 --> 1:34:31.400 getting some slot reps, so it feels like they've got 1:34:31.520 --> 1:34:34.439 him as definitely the backup on the outside, but I 1:34:34.479 --> 1:34:36.439 think he also could be, you know, just that they 1:34:36.479 --> 1:34:38.000 want to get. We don't want to go as heavy 1:34:38.000 --> 1:34:39.479 as del Patis, but we want to bring in a 1:34:39.680 --> 1:34:41.560 you know, a dinmeback that's a corner. I think that 1:34:41.680 --> 1:34:43.240 that's a place Charles Woods is going to play too. 1:34:43.320 --> 1:34:47.320 Darius and Louisville writes in listening but hearing you guys 1:34:47.800 --> 1:34:50.960 Evan and also Rabes talk about running the ball more 1:34:51.120 --> 1:34:54.720 or better against Seattle has me thinking, I know we 1:34:54.880 --> 1:34:57.960 weren't great running the ball when we needed to last year, 1:34:58.479 --> 1:35:01.920 but do you think they'll over correct for that for 1:35:02.080 --> 1:35:04.280 last year and take the ball out of drake hands 1:35:04.400 --> 1:35:06.880 Drake's hands more. I think with the weapons we have 1:35:07.080 --> 1:35:10.000 and Drake getting smarter, we can spread teams out and 1:35:10.120 --> 1:35:12.800 let him pick them apart. Evan, I'm not saying never 1:35:12.920 --> 1:35:15.519 run the ball. I love the running game. I guess 1:35:15.520 --> 1:35:18.040 I'm just asking if Drake will be hurt by the 1:35:18.200 --> 1:35:21.519 need to try to run the ball better. I'm not 1:35:21.680 --> 1:35:22.200 worried about it. 1:35:22.400 --> 1:35:24.840 Yeah no, I don't think so. 1:35:25.040 --> 1:35:27.080 But I think that make Drake better. 1:35:27.320 --> 1:35:29.840 If teams are gonna go lighter, defenses are gonna go lighter, 1:35:29.880 --> 1:35:31.920 and they're gonna play too high safeties and they're gonna 1:35:31.960 --> 1:35:33.560 light in the box and all this stuff. Like you 1:35:33.840 --> 1:35:37.800 that's that's the chess match, Like throwing into Seattle's two 1:35:37.880 --> 1:35:41.559 high safety shells is not gonna You're not winning that way. 1:35:42.040 --> 1:35:43.760 Like that's how the Super Bowl went, and we all 1:35:43.840 --> 1:35:46.479 know how that went. So you know, if you're gonna 1:35:47.120 --> 1:35:49.360 that's what you gotta do. You gotta you gotta be 1:35:49.400 --> 1:35:52.000 able to run the football. You gotta get them out 1:35:52.040 --> 1:35:53.680 of nicol, You got to get them out of too 1:35:53.800 --> 1:35:55.920 high safety. You gotta make them put another hat in 1:35:55.960 --> 1:35:58.040 the box. You gotta make them put bigger bodies on 1:35:58.080 --> 1:36:00.880 the field, and that's when you can start to create 1:36:00.960 --> 1:36:05.679 opportunities in the passing game. So that's everybody in every 1:36:05.840 --> 1:36:08.360 NFL training camp is having the same discussion, how do 1:36:08.479 --> 1:36:11.440 we get defenses out of too high safeties? Because everybody's 1:36:11.439 --> 1:36:13.719 playing the same defense. They're all playing with an umbrella 1:36:13.800 --> 1:36:15.720 over the top of the defense. So how do we 1:36:15.800 --> 1:36:18.760 get the defense out of too high safety. You gotta 1:36:18.800 --> 1:36:20.560 run the ball like you gotta put big people on 1:36:20.600 --> 1:36:22.080 the field, and you gotta run the ball like that. 1:36:22.160 --> 1:36:24.920 Especially when your quarterback is really good at throwing the 1:36:24.960 --> 1:36:27.760 ball downfield with accuracy. And so, you KNOWV said it, 1:36:27.880 --> 1:36:29.639 this is the trend right now. Everybody wants to play 1:36:30.160 --> 1:36:32.479 with that high shell. Like who else are you doing 1:36:32.520 --> 1:36:34.719 it against other than Drake maybe, And that's the perfect 1:36:34.760 --> 1:36:37.559 guy to say, let's play too high. Let's make Drake 1:36:37.600 --> 1:36:40.680 readout the coverage and take the check downs. And like 1:36:40.960 --> 1:36:43.240 V said, the great thing that will even all that 1:36:43.320 --> 1:36:45.120 out is you start running the ball. And they got 1:36:45.200 --> 1:36:47.519 to bring somebody into the box. Now Drake's gonna. 1:36:47.280 --> 1:36:50.519 Feast, and then your offense becomes hard to defend. You've 1:36:50.560 --> 1:36:51.080 got that right. 1:36:51.200 --> 1:36:54.519 It's exhaustingly boring. How many defenses play the same defense 1:36:54.920 --> 1:36:57.320 every week you turn on a tape, it's the same defense. 1:36:57.400 --> 1:37:00.559 It's a modified version of the Seattle three. Now it's 1:37:00.600 --> 1:37:04.160 more too high safety instead of you know, cover three. 1:37:04.760 --> 1:37:06.800 And it's just the same thing over and over again, 1:37:06.920 --> 1:37:10.880 and every single time you watch offenses that try to 1:37:10.960 --> 1:37:14.160 drop back and pass thirty five times a game against that, 1:37:14.520 --> 1:37:17.560 and Seattle's bringing pressure from everywhere, and you're like, this 1:37:17.760 --> 1:37:19.040 is just a death sentence. 1:37:19.240 --> 1:37:22.559 And I would just say, completely anecdotally, I'd be stunned 1:37:22.600 --> 1:37:25.080 if they don't attempt more passes this year than they 1:37:25.160 --> 1:37:29.880 did last year. They were low twenties so many different 1:37:29.920 --> 1:37:33.120 games because that's all they needed to all they needed. 1:37:33.240 --> 1:37:35.839 They're they're in control in the second half, the attempts 1:37:35.840 --> 1:37:38.639 are down, we're running clock and we're getting out. 1:37:38.840 --> 1:37:40.360 It's not going to be that easy this year. 1:37:41.120 --> 1:37:44.719 So I just think game situations will dictate them having 1:37:44.920 --> 1:37:46.080 having to throw more than they. 1:37:46.040 --> 1:37:48.240 Did last games will declare Yeah, I mean, I mean 1:37:48.280 --> 1:37:49.920 Gilliam's a big part of that. I think that's a 1:37:49.960 --> 1:37:52.679 big acquisition and it's you know, it's going to immediately 1:37:52.680 --> 1:37:54.880 be one of those things early on where you're feeling out, 1:37:54.920 --> 1:37:56.880 how are they going to play us when we put 1:37:56.920 --> 1:37:57.840 Gilliam on the field. 1:37:57.880 --> 1:37:58.519 What about it? 1:37:59.280 --> 1:38:01.519 Yeah, it's gonna Paul's favorite kind and type. 1:38:01.880 --> 1:38:03.559 I love that because that will take the ball out 1:38:03.600 --> 1:38:05.240 of Drake Mays hands and I would not like that. 1:38:05.439 --> 1:38:07.680 He's gonna love. I mean, this is where we're going. 1:38:07.720 --> 1:38:10.639 We're going. Full backs are back, multiple tight ends are back. 1:38:11.080 --> 1:38:13.240 It's the because it's the only answer. Like, if they're 1:38:13.280 --> 1:38:16.479 gonna play this way defensively, you know you got to 1:38:16.520 --> 1:38:17.920 find a way to get them out of it, and 1:38:18.040 --> 1:38:19.040 it's the only way to do it. 1:38:19.680 --> 1:38:22.200 Paul in Providence, it's great that Dobbs and Brown are 1:38:22.240 --> 1:38:24.679 making progress in their connection with May, but I can't 1:38:24.760 --> 1:38:27.280 help but think this progress is more of a function 1:38:27.400 --> 1:38:31.080 of playing it against second and third string cornerbacks. The connection, 1:38:31.280 --> 1:38:34.680 particularly with Dobbs was non existent when playing against the 1:38:34.760 --> 1:38:37.560 first team defense. Do you have any concerns that this 1:38:37.680 --> 1:38:39.360 development is fool's gold. 1:38:40.800 --> 1:38:43.320 A lot of these catches were against Carlton Davis, so yeah, 1:38:43.520 --> 1:38:44.799 I think that's a little unfair. 1:38:44.960 --> 1:38:47.560 They've they're proven NFL players. Like if this was a 1:38:47.680 --> 1:38:50.920 rookie and he was and like they drafted a high 1:38:50.960 --> 1:38:54.160 pick and he was going off and practice against depth corners, 1:38:54.200 --> 1:38:56.360 But like it's AJ Brown and Romeo Dobbs who have 1:38:56.880 --> 1:38:59.840 real production in the league. And I also just would say, 1:39:00.120 --> 1:39:03.519 like not every team has Christian Gonzalez and Carlton Davis. 1:39:03.920 --> 1:39:05.880 They're geting to play a lot of teams that have 1:39:07.000 --> 1:39:09.680 stinky corners and like they're not gonna be as good 1:39:09.720 --> 1:39:10.880 as the guys the Patriots have. 1:39:11.200 --> 1:39:11.400 Yep. 1:39:11.560 --> 1:39:14.400 So I think at the very least, it's encouraging that 1:39:14.880 --> 1:39:17.160 like AJ Brown, if you put AJ Brown against a 1:39:17.920 --> 1:39:21.120 kind of a fringe outside corner, like, he's still going 1:39:21.160 --> 1:39:23.000 to torch that guy at this stage of his career. 1:39:23.080 --> 1:39:24.280 And that's the way I would. 1:39:24.120 --> 1:39:24.439 Look at it. 1:39:24.560 --> 1:39:26.680 But if you wanted to be negative about it and say, well, 1:39:27.320 --> 1:39:30.200 you know, it's because of the guys getting hurt, you 1:39:30.280 --> 1:39:33.400 could say that about AJ Brown hasn't seen Gonzales now 1:39:33.479 --> 1:39:36.040 for a week, so maybe that's why he's on an uptick. 1:39:37.360 --> 1:39:40.040 Carlton Davis and Romeo Dobbs have seen plenty of each other. 1:39:40.320 --> 1:39:43.320 Davis has been back now for several practices. He's back 1:39:43.920 --> 1:39:45.960 like he you know, am I saying that he's in 1:39:46.160 --> 1:39:49.040 like regular season form? Probably not, But why should I 1:39:49.080 --> 1:39:51.120 think that Romeo Dobbs is in regular season form. 1:39:51.520 --> 1:39:54.080 It's camp for him too, So they've been back. 1:39:54.240 --> 1:39:56.639 I think, like I said earlier in the show, he's 1:39:56.680 --> 1:39:59.880 been running those twelve yard outs and getting open routinely. 1:40:00.040 --> 1:40:01.000 Hatriots place with. 1:40:01.160 --> 1:40:05.200 Carlton Davis covering him again. Brown might be benefiting from 1:40:06.040 --> 1:40:08.479 Gonzalez's absence, but I don't think that's been the case 1:40:08.520 --> 1:40:08.960 for Dobbs. 1:40:09.040 --> 1:40:09.240 Yeah. 1:40:09.320 --> 1:40:10.960 Yeah, they just look like Patriot plays to me, and 1:40:11.000 --> 1:40:12.640 that's you know, it just looks comfortable. He looks like 1:40:12.720 --> 1:40:15.160 he's in the right spot regardless of who the matchup is. Yeah, 1:40:15.400 --> 1:40:16.880 you know, he's just in the right places. And I 1:40:16.920 --> 1:40:19.479 think that's what I was most interested in, not that 1:40:19.520 --> 1:40:21.240 all these matchups are shutting him down. Does he know 1:40:21.320 --> 1:40:22.800 what to do? Can he get there quick? Can he 1:40:23.080 --> 1:40:24.360 you know, be where Drake wants him to be? 1:40:24.520 --> 1:40:26.519 And it wasn't that way when camp started. 1:40:26.800 --> 1:40:29.960 Yeah, So, I mean, look, there's always competition's gonna uptick, 1:40:30.040 --> 1:40:32.839 but you know, a J. Brown going against Christian Gonzalez 1:40:32.880 --> 1:40:34.640 every day, that's that's as good as a matchup as 1:40:34.640 --> 1:40:35.519 you can possibly see him. 1:40:35.560 --> 1:40:37.800 Less than the slot Dobbs, Like, I think early on 1:40:37.960 --> 1:40:40.080 they thought that he was going to play more inside 1:40:40.160 --> 1:40:42.800 and played the big role and stuff like that, and 1:40:42.840 --> 1:40:45.280 I feel like now they realized it's going to be 1:40:45.360 --> 1:40:48.840 more of an outside receiver, heavy you know, offense, with 1:40:48.920 --> 1:40:50.679 Dobbs and Brown both playing on the outside. 1:40:50.720 --> 1:40:54.000 Tina from Indy rites in thank you for making me 1:40:54.120 --> 1:40:56.120 laugh every time I listen. I enjoy the banner, and 1:40:56.200 --> 1:40:59.080 I honestly have learned so much about scheme and different 1:40:59.120 --> 1:41:02.880 personsonel from listening. I had to write a quick email 1:41:03.000 --> 1:41:06.679 to tell you that I love Mike's shirt. He looks 1:41:06.840 --> 1:41:10.920 exceptionally handsome. Today I am happily married, but I can 1:41:11.000 --> 1:41:13.880 still look thank you, thank you for my shirt. 1:41:14.160 --> 1:41:17.400 I would agree with that email. Mike, you are exceptionally handsome. 1:41:17.960 --> 1:41:18.720 I love hearing him. 1:41:18.720 --> 1:41:22.559 Paul he Is say he's a good looking guy. 1:41:22.880 --> 1:41:26.000 Say it all the time, mister Hollywood over there, we 1:41:26.120 --> 1:41:26.719 can handsome. 1:41:27.240 --> 1:41:27.360 Matt. 1:41:28.240 --> 1:41:33.240 Matt wants to know what Evan thought about Raridan's blocking 1:41:33.960 --> 1:41:36.519 and if the fans feel kind of justified about what 1:41:36.680 --> 1:41:38.360 they saw during training camp. 1:41:39.520 --> 1:41:41.559 Good getting better. 1:41:41.800 --> 1:41:43.400 That was my next question. 1:41:44.880 --> 1:41:48.599 The block that he threw on Jan Miller's fifteen yard 1:41:48.680 --> 1:41:51.720 run was really nice. Came off the end combo the 1:41:51.880 --> 1:41:54.240 end with Arkin, came off, hit the corner, threw him 1:41:54.240 --> 1:41:58.559 out the club. That was like, there we go. That's 1:41:58.600 --> 1:42:00.479 what you want more of that. Some of the like 1:42:00.600 --> 1:42:03.080 base blocks or kickout blocks on the line of scrimmage 1:42:03.160 --> 1:42:04.840 is more of like a stalemate. Right now for him 1:42:04.880 --> 1:42:07.639 than he's like actually creating movement, and I think that's 1:42:07.680 --> 1:42:10.040 where he is going to need to improve a little bit. 1:42:10.200 --> 1:42:13.439 But functional, like I thought it was okay, it's fine. 1:42:13.479 --> 1:42:15.400 He's not going to make his living blocked out block 1:42:15.479 --> 1:42:17.360 He's a big running guy, and like, you know, it's 1:42:17.400 --> 1:42:19.479 fine now, and then they're gonna have to show him 1:42:19.479 --> 1:42:21.320 in to do it. He puts in the effort. He's 1:42:21.360 --> 1:42:24.519 got good size, he's thick, but you want him to 1:42:24.640 --> 1:42:26.840 be running the seam and making plays down the field. 1:42:27.360 --> 1:42:29.280 He ain't thick with two c's. He's small. 1:42:29.439 --> 1:42:33.360 He's very tall, but he's small. 1:42:33.439 --> 1:42:35.519 But yeah, I think I like his build though I 1:42:35.560 --> 1:42:36.880 don't think his build is you know. 1:42:37.120 --> 1:42:39.960 I think he's a sterticular athlete. I think he can 1:42:40.000 --> 1:42:41.320 be a weapon in the past. I don't know if 1:42:41.439 --> 1:42:43.880 I'm not telling you now. I think down the road 1:42:43.960 --> 1:42:46.320 he could be a really valuable weapon. 1:42:46.400 --> 1:42:47.800 And that's for them, I mean, that's what you want. 1:42:47.880 --> 1:42:49.760 I don't think he's ever going to make a living. 1:42:49.800 --> 1:42:51.600 I mean unless I mean, we're trending in the right 1:42:51.640 --> 1:42:54.280 direction learns nutrition at the NFL, we're trending in the 1:42:54.360 --> 1:42:54.759 right direction. 1:42:54.880 --> 1:42:56.880 As a blocker, like he's I don't think he's going 1:42:56.960 --> 1:42:59.080 to be Gronk obviously, but like we're trending in the 1:42:59.200 --> 1:43:03.080 right direction there, and you know, if he's there's a 1:43:03.240 --> 1:43:05.639 chance that he could be better than Hunter Henry already 1:43:05.680 --> 1:43:07.680 as a rookie. Hunter Henry is not a very good 1:43:07.720 --> 1:43:10.240 blocker as a block Yeah, So like I think that 1:43:10.320 --> 1:43:14.040 there's a chance that that happens. I was less excited 1:43:14.040 --> 1:43:17.280 about Arkin. I thought Arkins struggled in the game. I 1:43:17.360 --> 1:43:19.320 thought Rariden was was decent. 1:43:19.360 --> 1:43:23.160 And I look at Arkin and Rareden like comparatively, and 1:43:23.200 --> 1:43:25.280 I know that they play I mean, I know they 1:43:25.400 --> 1:43:27.599 both tight ends, but they don't really play the same position. 1:43:27.760 --> 1:43:29.960 I understand that. But one of them is like a 1:43:30.040 --> 1:43:32.200 tackle and the other one is like a you know, 1:43:32.360 --> 1:43:33.400 a big slot. 1:43:33.560 --> 1:43:35.840 Yeah, I thought I thought Arkins struggled a little bit 1:43:36.040 --> 1:43:39.439 in the game. I thought that they gave Rareden some 1:43:39.520 --> 1:43:41.960 real assignments though, like they had him blocking ends and 1:43:42.040 --> 1:43:43.160 things like that, And like. 1:43:43.720 --> 1:43:47.200 You need to because that whole thing about being predictable 1:43:47.479 --> 1:43:50.439 is relevant, especially and Josh has talked to me about 1:43:50.439 --> 1:43:52.640 this a million times over the years. If you if 1:43:52.680 --> 1:43:55.599 you have to get stuck, well here it comes Arkin 1:43:55.720 --> 1:43:58.360 for the two tight ends. That's a tell. Yeah, And 1:43:58.400 --> 1:43:59.880 they don't want to do that, So you need to 1:44:00.160 --> 1:44:02.160 railed and be able to at least show up. Yeah, 1:44:02.200 --> 1:44:04.240 And that's what Rabel said the other day, Right, he's willing, 1:44:04.439 --> 1:44:05.040 He's willing. 1:44:05.120 --> 1:44:07.080 I just want to see a little bit more movement 1:44:07.160 --> 1:44:10.280 on the kickouts, like he just that space just gets 1:44:10.280 --> 1:44:11.960 a little bit too compressed and they try to hit 1:44:12.000 --> 1:44:13.640 the sea gap runs, just like, get him out a 1:44:13.720 --> 1:44:16.720 little bit more. But that might come, but that he 1:44:16.840 --> 1:44:19.479 might need some skinless chicken Polly before we're talking. 1:44:19.520 --> 1:44:23.360 I agree that Chris and Clemson trying to stay away 1:44:23.400 --> 1:44:26.240 from the usual camp questions. So I have these three 1:44:26.400 --> 1:44:29.840 for you guys. One, is this defense actually built to 1:44:29.920 --> 1:44:33.559 win without blitzing? If the Patriots can't consistently generate pressure 1:44:33.720 --> 1:44:36.760 with four, does that force able to blitz more than 1:44:36.800 --> 1:44:39.280 he'd like? And if so, does that create a domino 1:44:39.360 --> 1:44:42.200 effect by exposing the linebackers and secondary and coverag Yeah, 1:44:42.200 --> 1:44:42.679 it does. 1:44:42.720 --> 1:44:45.720 Small sea concern. Yeah, to steal Evans phrase of the 1:44:45.800 --> 1:44:47.040 Summer two. 1:44:47.160 --> 1:44:50.599 What happens when a defense decides aj Brown simply isn't 1:44:50.680 --> 1:44:54.040 going to beat them if teams bracket Brown play too 1:44:54.160 --> 1:44:57.000 high and force someone else to win. Have you seen 1:44:57.160 --> 1:44:59.800 enough from Dobbs, Douglas, Henry in the running game to 1:44:59.840 --> 1:45:03.280 make them pay? Or does this offense still become significantly 1:45:03.400 --> 1:45:05.759 easier to defend when Brown is taken away. 1:45:06.880 --> 1:45:08.040 I have less concern about that. 1:45:08.360 --> 1:45:10.280 Yeah, I have less concern about that for sure. I think. 1:45:10.400 --> 1:45:12.120 I mean the way Pop Douglas has been showing up, 1:45:12.120 --> 1:45:13.400 the way Dobbins has been showing up. I mean, I 1:45:13.400 --> 1:45:16.120 think Vermondre is just quietly doing what Modre does, and 1:45:16.160 --> 1:45:18.280 if he stays healthy, he's going to be a back 1:45:18.320 --> 1:45:21.639 who can do It's be stunned if Andre Stevenson had 1:45:21.760 --> 1:45:24.280 like a bunch of big plays in the passing game. No, 1:45:25.000 --> 1:45:26.840 I feel like they've been using him a lot as 1:45:26.880 --> 1:45:29.719 a receiver on like does not just like dump offfs 1:45:29.840 --> 1:45:32.680 like on design routes. That little I always call it 1:45:32.760 --> 1:45:34.360 a stick row, but I don't know, it's probably not that, 1:45:34.479 --> 1:45:36.840 but that little like a little bend to the post 1:45:37.479 --> 1:45:40.400 that over the middle, and he's got big plays on 1:45:40.479 --> 1:45:41.519 that on that little. 1:45:41.360 --> 1:45:46.840 Round the angle are out, Yeah, and it's it's there, 1:45:47.000 --> 1:45:49.639 like every time that they go to it. It seems 1:45:49.680 --> 1:45:51.800 like it's open. And I think they used it a 1:45:51.880 --> 1:45:53.720 couple of times to get out of trouble last year. 1:45:54.160 --> 1:45:57.599 Once I think in the I think the Chargers playoff game, 1:45:57.600 --> 1:45:58.640 but I might be misremembered. 1:45:58.640 --> 1:46:01.479 Oh yeah, I have a little dump feet biggest game. 1:46:02.320 --> 1:46:02.519 Yeah. 1:46:03.160 --> 1:46:06.800 I think they have a lot of options. If teams 1:46:06.880 --> 1:46:09.080 want to dial up something to take aj Brown out, 1:46:09.120 --> 1:46:10.160 I think they have options. 1:46:10.200 --> 1:46:11.439 So they're bracketing him. 1:46:11.479 --> 1:46:15.519 That's two guys and four guys. Yeah, I don't know 1:46:15.560 --> 1:46:18.599 how that we got there, but they they have more 1:46:18.720 --> 1:46:20.640 now I think this year than they did last year. 1:46:20.680 --> 1:46:24.080 If that that's the game plan, if they're taking out Brown, 1:46:24.160 --> 1:46:25.680 like last year when they got into the playoffs, they 1:46:25.680 --> 1:46:26.439 started taking out. 1:46:26.400 --> 1:46:27.599 Digs and they didn't have options. 1:46:27.640 --> 1:46:29.960 They didn't really have much else. But this year I 1:46:30.200 --> 1:46:31.840 feel like they're better better A question? 1:46:32.200 --> 1:46:35.599 Final question is what did Indianapolis expose that coaching may 1:46:35.720 --> 1:46:37.840 not be able to fix? Looking at what you saw 1:46:37.840 --> 1:46:41.839 against the Colts, which problems were communication or execution issues 1:46:41.880 --> 1:46:44.639 that can be cleaned up in which, if any, made 1:46:44.680 --> 1:46:47.680 you think the Patriots simply may not have the personnel 1:46:47.760 --> 1:46:51.320 to consistently win that matchup against good teams. Does Philadelphia 1:46:51.439 --> 1:46:52.880 give us our first real answer? 1:46:54.080 --> 1:46:58.000 Covering tight ends as good as Tyler Warren. Have you faced, 1:46:58.000 --> 1:47:00.920 like may you faced a guy like, you know, top 1:47:01.439 --> 1:47:04.000 five tight end in the league. I think that you 1:47:04.120 --> 1:47:06.960 might worry about that a little bit. You know, Aj 1:47:07.080 --> 1:47:10.240 Barner gave them trouble in the Super Bowl. Warren gave 1:47:10.320 --> 1:47:14.120 them trouble if they play like a Ifada is ever 1:47:14.240 --> 1:47:17.120 healthy and he's playing, you know, for the Bills, you know, 1:47:17.560 --> 1:47:19.560 things like that, Maybe. 1:47:19.840 --> 1:47:21.320 How do they deal with like three tight ends, like 1:47:21.360 --> 1:47:24.240 when they go in into Chicago, you know, like that's interesting. 1:47:24.360 --> 1:47:26.080 I know they're kind of you know, unique. The Rams 1:47:26.160 --> 1:47:28.559 kind of do that thing too, But I would say 1:47:28.640 --> 1:47:32.800 the rushing offense, I just over all the upfront consistently 1:47:32.960 --> 1:47:34.519 pushing guys off the line and open it up. 1:47:34.600 --> 1:47:37.280 Yeah, those are things that I think are issues in 1:47:37.400 --> 1:47:39.920 New England. I don't necessarily look at anything that happened 1:47:39.920 --> 1:47:42.240 against the Colts and worry about it, but the tight 1:47:42.400 --> 1:47:45.479 end thing, because even if you take it back Tyler 1:47:45.520 --> 1:47:47.840 Warren is an exceptional talent, then you get on the 1:47:47.880 --> 1:47:51.960 field in the game, which is obviously paired down, but 1:47:52.080 --> 1:47:54.559 now you have backups against backups, and tight ends are 1:47:54.600 --> 1:47:57.479 still an issue. So I just wondered if defensively, Do 1:47:57.560 --> 1:47:58.439 they have an answer for this? 1:47:58.600 --> 1:48:02.559 Yeah, I mean even will Mallory them some problems. Yeah, 1:48:03.120 --> 1:48:06.880 So that that would be something i'd specifically to the Colts. 1:48:07.840 --> 1:48:10.640 The rush offense, I think is just a matter like 1:48:11.479 --> 1:48:14.200 they're not a they're not a bull dozing offensive line. 1:48:14.479 --> 1:48:17.519 Like they're not a they're not a road grading offensive line. 1:48:17.560 --> 1:48:19.720 That's not the group that they put together. So you 1:48:19.840 --> 1:48:22.120 have seen a lot more stretch you know, outside zone 1:48:22.160 --> 1:48:25.360 plays and things like that like that takes time, like 1:48:25.479 --> 1:48:28.280 to develop the chemistry on the combination blocks and the 1:48:28.360 --> 1:48:31.240 reads and all that kind of stuff. So I you know, 1:48:31.360 --> 1:48:33.280 maybe that's a little bit of a slow burn is 1:48:33.360 --> 1:48:35.360 the run game. But I don't know if that's specific 1:48:35.479 --> 1:48:38.160 to the Colts. The one thing I would worry about 1:48:38.160 --> 1:48:40.479 with the offensive line, know is that like they they 1:48:40.560 --> 1:48:43.400 don't really have like a lot of power. But outside 1:48:43.439 --> 1:48:45.920 of on when you on that line that you really 1:48:45.960 --> 1:48:48.640 think of people, you know, downhill people movers, like we're 1:48:48.640 --> 1:48:51.040 gonna get on double teams and and move the line 1:48:51.080 --> 1:48:53.120 of scrimmage. I think they're gonna be more of like 1:48:53.160 --> 1:48:57.400 a finesse you know, run game, which we'll see if 1:48:57.439 --> 1:48:59.160 that that translates. 1:49:00.200 --> 1:49:01.000 In on that one too. 1:49:01.240 --> 1:49:05.080 It does seem like even now when they have any 1:49:05.160 --> 1:49:07.479 monicament success running the ball, it's to the right side. 1:49:07.600 --> 1:49:09.439 Remember that was the big thing last year. They had 1:49:09.479 --> 1:49:11.439 a sort of power up behind a winner win Moses. 1:49:12.000 --> 1:49:14.080 I've seen that a little bit this Every once in 1:49:14.160 --> 1:49:16.760 a while there's a crease off right tackle and no 1:49:16.920 --> 1:49:17.840 sniff off on glad. 1:49:17.840 --> 1:49:20.320 Evan said though at the top, reminding people that Elijah 1:49:20.360 --> 1:49:22.080 Vera Tucker hasn't played in a year. So I think, 1:49:22.120 --> 1:49:23.760 you know, I kind of forgotten that, and I think 1:49:23.800 --> 1:49:24.840 that's an important. 1:49:24.560 --> 1:49:26.640 Have you've been disappointed in vera attacker like Fred's been 1:49:27.240 --> 1:49:28.400 disappointed in Drake Back. 1:49:28.560 --> 1:49:30.960 I just I would say underwhelmed. I know, I mean, 1:49:31.000 --> 1:49:34.439 but it's hard to be overwhelmed. It's hard to be 1:49:34.520 --> 1:49:37.519 overwhelmed in a practice, you know, setting like this. But 1:49:38.200 --> 1:49:40.720 you know, I don't know that's one where how good 1:49:40.800 --> 1:49:42.519 is this guy? Because you know it's a first round pick. 1:49:42.560 --> 1:49:45.559 Everyone said, well, he's healthy, he's really good. Okay, I'll 1:49:45.600 --> 1:49:47.600 give some chance to knock some rust off. But like 1:49:47.640 --> 1:49:49.559 I want to see who this first round pick really 1:49:49.560 --> 1:49:50.080 good guy is. 1:49:50.280 --> 1:49:52.679 See, I feel like I've been I think Vera Tucker's 1:49:52.720 --> 1:49:54.200 been fine. Yeah, Like I think a lot of the 1:49:54.320 --> 1:49:56.320 things that have been issues with him early on were 1:49:56.720 --> 1:49:59.320 picking up stunts and games and things like that with Campbell, 1:49:59.320 --> 1:50:01.479 which you expect for two guys that haven't played together 1:50:01.960 --> 1:50:04.000 next to each other on the line before. I mean, 1:50:04.160 --> 1:50:06.439 is he like game Changer is at Quentin Nelson and 1:50:06.560 --> 1:50:08.719 like all of a sudden, your line just completely changed 1:50:08.800 --> 1:50:12.479 because you sign this guy. Probably not, but I still 1:50:12.520 --> 1:50:15.320 feel cautiously optimistic that you know, he's going to be 1:50:15.400 --> 1:50:17.799 a better left guard than Jared Wilson, and Jared Wilson's 1:50:17.800 --> 1:50:19.960 going to be at least as good as Bradbury at center, 1:50:20.040 --> 1:50:22.960 and like you're, yeah, I think that's marginally approving there. 1:50:23.080 --> 1:50:25.080 I like Avt's mean face, Like I feel like the 1:50:25.120 --> 1:50:27.040 rest of the line doesn't really have mean faces. Like 1:50:27.080 --> 1:50:28.880 they all look like nice guys, you know. I mean, 1:50:28.960 --> 1:50:31.720 Jared Wilson especially smile all day. We'll find out just 1:50:32.720 --> 1:50:34.120 a little bit a little bit of when you but 1:50:34.200 --> 1:50:36.479 I still but he's really like nice, and you know, 1:50:36.560 --> 1:50:37.599 I got to know him. 1:50:37.720 --> 1:50:38.400 He's really nice. 1:50:38.720 --> 1:50:40.720 Morgan Moses, even though he's got kind of the Rick 1:50:40.800 --> 1:50:43.240 Ross and going like he's still is just like our dad, 1:50:43.400 --> 1:50:45.280 like we all love him, but you know, Vera Tucker's 1:50:45.320 --> 1:50:48.320 just got that Like even today twenty years got a 1:50:48.360 --> 1:50:50.240 little bit of in a logan Mankins. Well, by the way, 1:50:50.320 --> 1:50:53.240 my sister ran into the logan Mankin's family up and yeah, 1:50:53.880 --> 1:50:54.599 I said. 1:50:54.439 --> 1:50:57.439 Something that I'm like looking for a little bit out 1:50:57.479 --> 1:51:00.639 of Campbell, like, Okay, you're one, you get your feet wet, 1:51:00.720 --> 1:51:03.439 You're just a rookie. You're not gonna lead necessarily right 1:51:03.479 --> 1:51:05.120 out of the shoet. I think Drake May ran into 1:51:05.200 --> 1:51:07.960 that problem a little bit too, but like the tone 1:51:08.240 --> 1:51:10.840 needs to come from somebody in that room, and he's 1:51:10.920 --> 1:51:13.000 the a hole, Like he's the guy that should be 1:51:13.040 --> 1:51:15.519 able to set a tone and have a mean streak. 1:51:15.560 --> 1:51:17.400 And I think they got some nice guys up there, 1:51:17.439 --> 1:51:18.960 and I like them all and they're fun to talk 1:51:19.040 --> 1:51:21.880 to and with the media. I would put Lomu in 1:51:21.960 --> 1:51:24.000 this category two, Like I'd. 1:51:23.880 --> 1:51:28.720 Like Lomo absolutelyell, like he's just such a nice kid. 1:51:31.680 --> 1:51:34.439 Can you take him like alligator wrestling or something like 1:51:34.600 --> 1:51:36.960 it's like you know you got I think that that's 1:51:37.560 --> 1:51:39.280 I hope that that comes a little bit more from 1:51:39.360 --> 1:51:40.800 Campbell this year, Like they need an. 1:51:40.680 --> 1:51:45.000 A hole on that, Uh, how they make the bulls 1:51:45.840 --> 1:51:51.479 get mad? Yeah, do something like that to get him 1:51:51.479 --> 1:51:52.160 pissed off. 1:51:52.040 --> 1:51:54.640 With like like even when he's a really strong and 1:51:54.800 --> 1:51:58.160 like powerful blocker, but he's not. He's not a finisher, 1:51:58.360 --> 1:52:01.320 Like he's not he's not Mays like, you know, I 1:52:01.400 --> 1:52:03.720 think they need a little bit of that age. I'm 1:52:03.720 --> 1:52:07.000 hoping that Campbell like kind of grows into that now 1:52:07.040 --> 1:52:07.839 that he's comfortable. 1:52:07.880 --> 1:52:08.080 Yeah. 1:52:08.320 --> 1:52:09.920 Like, I like how you put it, because that's one 1:52:09.920 --> 1:52:11.519 of the things that surprised me. I feel like that's 1:52:11.560 --> 1:52:13.479 what kind of expected were able to put together an 1:52:13.520 --> 1:52:15.840 offensive line and like just tough guys Like I don't know, 1:52:15.960 --> 1:52:18.800 maybe that's stupid, but they might be, but they all 1:52:18.800 --> 1:52:19.479 seem really nice. 1:52:20.000 --> 1:52:22.040 I'm not saying that they're not tough. I'm just saying 1:52:22.080 --> 1:52:24.920 that they're not nasty. Yeah, I need some next logan. 1:52:25.080 --> 1:52:26.760 Could you look at his face and you could just tell, 1:52:26.880 --> 1:52:28.720 like that guy's got a mean streak, you know, that's 1:52:28.760 --> 1:52:30.840 like AVT like his I'm like, that guy's probably got 1:52:30.880 --> 1:52:31.320 a streak. 1:52:31.560 --> 1:52:32.200 Didn't we know? 1:52:32.280 --> 1:52:32.680 Will does? 1:52:32.760 --> 1:52:35.280 Didn't we notice last year even in this rookie season, 1:52:35.640 --> 1:52:37.880 you know, Campbell playing right up to the whistle and 1:52:37.960 --> 1:52:39.479 maybe a little beyond that times. 1:52:39.520 --> 1:52:42.680 Yeah, sure, I mean at least preseason he knocked a 1:52:42.720 --> 1:52:45.400 guy from Sonny's car wash ten everybody. 1:52:46.320 --> 1:52:47.920 There was a couple of runs that he was he 1:52:48.040 --> 1:52:49.240 was throwing some extra business. 1:52:50.280 --> 1:52:54.160 Absolutely, you need to have Tim in California, says Christian 1:52:54.200 --> 1:52:55.880 in La needs to take a time out for mis 1:52:56.000 --> 1:52:59.040 pronouncing Gabe Acus his name. I bet he wouldn't do that. 1:52:59.400 --> 1:52:59.960 I don't think he. 1:53:00.040 --> 1:53:01.400 Person announced it to me neither. 1:53:01.640 --> 1:53:02.240 No, he would not. 1:53:02.479 --> 1:53:04.200 He would not do anything that was crazy though. 1:53:04.439 --> 1:53:07.600 Yeah, I don't think he mispronounced it. Let's just say it. 1:53:07.960 --> 1:53:08.880 No, he did that. 1:53:08.960 --> 1:53:13.280 Purson absolutely talk about the guy with Christian Sean Mack 1:53:13.320 --> 1:53:17.240 from PA some ups and downs from the first preseason game. 1:53:17.439 --> 1:53:21.720 Ups our preseason post game show was one hundred times 1:53:21.800 --> 1:53:25.040 better than last year. The new host in Troy prevent 1:53:25.160 --> 1:53:27.280 Paul from carrying the shows on his own. 1:53:27.960 --> 1:53:31.519 Uh downs. 1:53:31.560 --> 1:53:35.760 Whoever decides the idiot combination on the uniforms? Do the 1:53:35.840 --> 1:53:39.360 Patriots listen to the fans? This blue on blue combo 1:53:39.560 --> 1:53:42.960 is horrible. Just keep it blue and silver. Would be 1:53:43.080 --> 1:53:46.040 nice to see a return of the Dynasty uniforms against 1:53:46.080 --> 1:53:49.880 the Raiders for the twenty five year anniversary. Also, they 1:53:49.920 --> 1:53:53.160 have not announced the throwback and rivalry game yet. Any 1:53:53.240 --> 1:53:54.519 clue when that happens. 1:53:54.800 --> 1:53:59.280 They have announced the rivalry game, but I think, yeah. 1:53:59.520 --> 1:54:05.800 Don't Pizza. I got a lot of those comments in 1:54:05.880 --> 1:54:09.760 the blog during the preseason. Why are they wearing the blueberries? 1:54:10.040 --> 1:54:10.200 Real? 1:54:10.280 --> 1:54:13.320 It's preseason? This is that's why preseason you wear your 1:54:13.360 --> 1:54:14.680 worst uniforms. 1:54:14.280 --> 1:54:14.959 Of the preseason. 1:54:15.479 --> 1:54:15.680 You do? 1:54:16.040 --> 1:54:18.000 Yeah, you don't, you don't. Why is that you don't 1:54:18.280 --> 1:54:21.000 bring out your your top notch, you know, clothing for 1:54:21.120 --> 1:54:22.320 the preseason? Yeah? 1:54:22.479 --> 1:54:25.559 Yeah, Also when you bring out your actual uniform now. 1:54:25.520 --> 1:54:27.920 Not necessarily you got four uniforms now. 1:54:28.120 --> 1:54:30.559 The problem though, is that when they wear the blues 1:54:30.600 --> 1:54:32.720 with the silver pants. I'm in agreement that that's a 1:54:32.760 --> 1:54:35.200 better look, but the silver pants are the old pants. 1:54:35.720 --> 1:54:38.600 They don't they don't match the new the new top, 1:54:39.120 --> 1:54:41.320 so they need to We can't do this. You understand 1:54:41.320 --> 1:54:42.720 what I'm saying, one hundred percent. 1:54:43.520 --> 1:54:45.440 You can't. You can't do this. 1:54:45.680 --> 1:54:46.560 No, they can't do this. 1:54:46.720 --> 1:54:47.720 Like you can't, they can. 1:54:48.520 --> 1:54:50.600 You can't be the only dynasty in NFL history to 1:54:50.680 --> 1:54:53.560 not wear the uniforms you want at all when everybody's 1:54:53.560 --> 1:54:56.400 got twenty seven different uniforms, and you're like, but let's 1:54:56.480 --> 1:54:58.400 not wear the uniforms we won the six super bowls 1:54:58.440 --> 1:55:00.600 in let's keep going with the Frankenstein. 1:55:02.400 --> 1:55:03.000 What are you gonna do? 1:55:03.120 --> 1:55:05.800 They change they have that they don't match. 1:55:05.880 --> 1:55:08.840 They have this, they changed to the altar, to the 1:55:09.040 --> 1:55:11.800 what their color rush? They changed them to the color rush, 1:55:11.840 --> 1:55:13.880 and they're like, oh, they don't like the blue, let's 1:55:13.920 --> 1:55:15.760 just bring back the great pants. They don't match. 1:55:16.320 --> 1:55:21.360 The stripes don't match. They're like little pink stripe grms. 1:55:22.840 --> 1:55:23.200 Amazing. 1:55:23.240 --> 1:55:26.000 I'm passionate, but like, I just think this is a 1:55:26.040 --> 1:55:29.720 brand thing. Like you won six super Bowl wearing an I. 1:55:29.720 --> 1:55:32.160 Can understand why did you see the need to change 1:55:32.200 --> 1:55:34.760 your uniforms that you had so much success? In that argument, 1:55:34.840 --> 1:55:38.320 I completely understand this whole other thing about blue on blue. 1:55:38.760 --> 1:55:39.840 We don't women that like. 1:55:40.240 --> 1:55:43.440 Again, I'm with Fred, like grown men talking about uniform 1:55:43.520 --> 1:55:45.000 combinations that they like, they don't like. 1:55:45.120 --> 1:55:48.240 Who cares, That's not my problem. My problem is that 1:55:48.480 --> 1:55:53.400 the blueberry jersey with the old silver pants you Frankenstein 1:55:53.480 --> 1:55:55.680 together a uniform. It doesn't match. 1:55:55.800 --> 1:55:56.800 It looks ridiculous. 1:55:57.480 --> 1:55:59.480 It's like, fine, you don't you know, I'm not telling 1:55:59.560 --> 1:56:01.120 you to get I don't. 1:56:01.280 --> 1:56:03.240 But it's not like a light thing. 1:56:03.360 --> 1:56:06.520 It's like, this is not just what is the match problem? 1:56:06.600 --> 1:56:09.480 Like what is blue and blue and silver the red 1:56:09.560 --> 1:56:11.959 stripe and the red and the white stripes don't match. 1:56:13.320 --> 1:56:13.919 The stripes? 1:56:15.720 --> 1:56:18.840 This is I will say, to show me this is 1:56:18.880 --> 1:56:21.400 a right and wrong This is not and I'm going 1:56:21.480 --> 1:56:22.320 to take you away for it. 1:56:22.440 --> 1:56:25.280 I just like, I guess I just never looked that closer. 1:56:25.360 --> 1:56:27.800 I mean to me, it's not like like those old 1:56:27.920 --> 1:56:30.280 silver uniforms that we wore back in the day. They 1:56:30.440 --> 1:56:33.760 just were terrible. You if they looked dirty, it was 1:56:33.840 --> 1:56:35.640 a bad shirt. Like I never looked at it and 1:56:35.760 --> 1:56:38.120 be like, just they don't match, Like I mean, I 1:56:38.160 --> 1:56:38.360 don't know. 1:56:38.400 --> 1:56:41.080 I just like, but if the stripe, if the stripe 1:56:41.200 --> 1:56:44.360 configuration is different, and I guess you have a point, 1:56:44.440 --> 1:56:45.440 it doesn't match. I never know. 1:56:45.480 --> 1:56:48.200 That's what I That's what I'm saying. I'm not telling like, 1:56:48.680 --> 1:56:50.160 haven't said this is a right and wrong thing. 1:56:50.920 --> 1:56:53.040 I'll take your word for it. I just never know. 1:56:53.720 --> 1:56:55.040 I don't care enough to notice. 1:56:55.080 --> 1:56:57.040 The flopside for me, though, was the white on white 1:56:57.080 --> 1:56:58.800 that they wore on the Super which I like because 1:56:58.800 --> 1:57:01.240 they match and they looked and it's like a new look. 1:57:01.320 --> 1:57:02.800 And I you know, I didn't even really care for 1:57:02.880 --> 1:57:05.040 those new white uniform white jerseys they are, but I 1:57:05.080 --> 1:57:06.680 think with the white and white it looks sharp. 1:57:06.760 --> 1:57:07.640 I like it. I don't. 1:57:07.800 --> 1:57:09.600 I don't love those. I don't love all white. 1:57:09.680 --> 1:57:10.400 You're impossible. 1:57:11.200 --> 1:57:12.120 I don't love all white. 1:57:12.160 --> 1:57:18.080 But it's again, it's it's fine, like it's it's a uniform. 1:57:17.800 --> 1:57:21.520 Like it's not it's it's it's twenty five twenty five 1:57:21.600 --> 1:57:26.240 teams in the league just to me my impartial, like 1:57:26.800 --> 1:57:29.000 they just have uniforms like whatever they wear. 1:57:29.200 --> 1:57:31.320 Like there's a couple of teams. I'm like, oh, I 1:57:31.400 --> 1:57:34.440 really like those uniforms, you know. You know the Chargers 1:57:34.440 --> 1:57:36.280 are always when that gets all, you know, I think 1:57:36.280 --> 1:57:37.400 they're a little overrated. 1:57:37.480 --> 1:57:39.000 I agree if you think. 1:57:39.160 --> 1:57:41.880 But I do like the powder I do. 1:57:42.080 --> 1:57:45.960 I do like the powder blue uniforms. I like some 1:57:46.120 --> 1:57:49.360 of the ones with that that Detroit wears, some of 1:57:49.440 --> 1:57:52.680 their combinations. But like you know, people lose their minds 1:57:52.720 --> 1:57:56.680 over like, oh, the traditional Steelers and Packers, like they're boring. 1:57:56.840 --> 1:57:59.080 Is I just want to get past that match man. 1:57:59.480 --> 1:58:01.480 I don't really like it's not even so much a matter. 1:58:03.600 --> 1:58:05.560 Can we just bet they don't match? 1:58:05.680 --> 1:58:05.960 This is? 1:58:06.120 --> 1:58:08.200 This is minor league? Like, can we just get pants? 1:58:08.240 --> 1:58:10.680 I would agree, I just I didn't know. 1:58:10.760 --> 1:58:13.560 I'm with fred We're in the on the outside looking in, Freddy, 1:58:13.760 --> 1:58:15.080 we got we gotta get with it now. 1:58:15.200 --> 1:58:17.360 Now I hit my eyes off of it. 1:58:17.680 --> 1:58:18.520 Look at those pants. 1:58:18.520 --> 1:58:19.760 They don't mask, they don't match. 1:58:20.120 --> 1:58:21.920 I might have to say during the show, during that 1:58:22.000 --> 1:58:24.600 game the broadcast Saturday night, all right, why are they 1:58:24.640 --> 1:58:27.440 in these you don't even match? How they don't match? 1:58:27.520 --> 1:58:27.920 Crazy? 1:58:28.080 --> 1:58:28.800 It really does. 1:58:28.960 --> 1:58:33.760 That's it for this show. But tomorrow nine five, we 1:58:33.880 --> 1:58:36.360 are going to be live for the joint practice with 1:58:36.560 --> 1:58:39.000 the Eagles. When is Catch twenty two this week? 1:58:39.240 --> 1:58:42.680 Three to five Tomorrow after practice three to we'll break 1:58:42.720 --> 1:58:43.280 down practice. 1:58:43.520 --> 1:58:46.640 Okay, so Barthy has going to carve out two hours 1:58:46.680 --> 1:58:46.880 for you. 1:58:47.000 --> 1:58:50.120 Yeah, that's why we started late, is because we both 1:58:50.160 --> 1:58:53.320 have to write, and he's got got times. I want 1:58:53.600 --> 1:58:57.520 pull Barth attention. I don't want like he's typing and 1:58:57.680 --> 1:58:58.720 I'm hosting and. 1:58:58.760 --> 1:59:01.040 He's gotta talk about eleven guys that I've never heard. 1:59:01.160 --> 1:59:04.040 It's like on his hits on the Sports Hub, ninety 1:59:04.200 --> 1:59:06.240 five gets the best of you. I get the rest. 1:59:08.200 --> 1:59:08.800 We know each other. 1:59:08.840 --> 1:59:09.960 I'm sitting a little close to home. 1:59:10.040 --> 1:59:10.240 Friends. 1:59:11.400 --> 1:59:14.720 We know each other so well that you can tell. 1:59:15.280 --> 1:59:17.480 I can tell when he's distracted because I know him 1:59:17.520 --> 1:59:20.480 so well that like I can tell, and that annoys me. 1:59:20.640 --> 1:59:22.200 So I'm like, let's just do it when you're one 1:59:22.280 --> 1:59:25.600 hundred percent done, like when you can really do our show. 1:59:25.520 --> 1:59:27.040 And not focus. 1:59:27.400 --> 1:59:28.240 Alex focused. 1:59:28.600 --> 1:59:34.200 So after his post Sports Hub cigarette he comes in. Now, Okay, yeah, 1:59:34.560 --> 1:59:35.040 I'm ready. 1:59:35.080 --> 1:59:37.000 What do you now? 1:59:37.040 --> 1:59:37.800 You have my attention. 1:59:38.120 --> 1:59:41.879 Listening to him yesterday with doing the names was actually pretty. 1:59:41.680 --> 1:59:43.280 It was pretty funny. Yeah, that was a good bit. 1:59:43.400 --> 1:59:44.280 They made it. They turned it. 1:59:44.400 --> 1:59:46.480 They turned it into a good bit. Well was going on. 1:59:46.600 --> 1:59:47.480 It was not a good bit. 1:59:47.800 --> 1:59:49.720 All right, We'll see you tomorrow. 1:59:49.840 --> 1:59:50.000 Nine. 1:59:53.280 --> 1:59:55.360 Hey, this is Duce. 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