WEBVTT - Dynamite Fallout/Pretty Deadly Talk 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:02.840 Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition 0:00:02.840 --> 0:00:07.320 of the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side Network. 0:00:09.840 --> 0:00:15.640 Let's get it all. How's it going, everybody? Brian Alvarez 0:00:15.800 --> 0:00:18.920 here on Wrestling Observer Live. We are here every day 0:00:18.960 --> 0:00:22.200 Monday through Friday, New Pacific three Eastern, Sundays three Pacific, 0:00:22.239 --> 0:00:27.319 sixth Eastern and Saturdays and the pacificed one Eastern with 0:00:27.600 --> 0:00:34.440 Jim Valley, which sounds like a place for bodybuilders. It 0:00:34.640 --> 0:00:36.800 is a Thursday here on this program, and you know 0:00:36.840 --> 0:00:38.320 what that means. We had a lot to talk about 0:00:38.360 --> 0:00:44.480 here today, including fallout from the A e W Dynamite 0:00:44.479 --> 0:00:50.680 show last night. Will the streak continue of one million 0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:54.720 plus viewers. We're gonna find out later on today. But 0:00:54.840 --> 0:00:59.680 a lot to talk about from that show, including championship matches, 0:00:59.760 --> 0:01:04.559 champiship contender matches, yes, the women's segment in the middle 0:01:04.600 --> 0:01:09.280 of the show, and uh and so much more so. 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:12.760 It's gonna be fun. And you know what, yesterday I 0:01:12.800 --> 0:01:15.160 did not get to talk about n x T two 0:01:15.160 --> 0:01:20.440 point oh, But if we have time today, I can't wait, 0:01:21.880 --> 0:01:28.120 particularly to talk about Pretty Deadly, the greatest act in 0:01:28.280 --> 0:01:33.360 all of professional wrestling. Giving old Sammy Zane a run 0:01:33.440 --> 0:01:36.080 for his money. We have updates on Tony D'Angelo the 0:01:36.160 --> 0:01:39.800 n x T ratings, and has noted not only do 0:01:39.840 --> 0:01:41.880 we have a lot to talk about from Dynamite, but 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:45.520 they got some big shows coming up, including very soon 0:01:45.560 --> 0:01:49.640 we're gonna have like a month straight of live rampage shows. 0:01:50.280 --> 0:01:52.200 So we got a lot of matches to talk about there, 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:55.840 and uh, of course an x T building up some 0:01:55.880 --> 0:01:58.559 stuff as well, and we've got an update on the 0:01:58.560 --> 0:02:02.960 the n x T for Mints Center after Hurricane Ian. 0:02:03.040 --> 0:02:04.480 So a lot to get into here today. We'll also 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:07.400 have time to take your feedback to the text message 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:10.480 line four to five seven eight zero seven five six six. 0:02:10.560 --> 0:02:12.799 That is four to five seven eight zero seven five 0:02:13.000 --> 0:02:18.720 six six. I am Brian at Wrestling Observer dot com. Yes, 0:02:18.800 --> 0:02:22.799 I am at Brian albert is on Twitter. You can 0:02:22.800 --> 0:02:25.680 also super follow me on Twitter. You had a lot 0:02:25.720 --> 0:02:28.359 to talk about me and my super followers of late 0:02:28.919 --> 0:02:45.639 back in a moment with more abs over live back 0:02:45.680 --> 0:02:48.519 of the show. Brian Olvera is here Wrestling Observer Live. 0:02:48.639 --> 0:02:53.280 Mike simper Viv also Wrestling Observer dot com. Hey, big 0:02:53.680 --> 0:02:57.800 best wishes everybody in or around the path of Hurricane 0:02:57.880 --> 0:03:02.880 Ian and uh, several talents not making it to Dynamite 0:03:03.000 --> 0:03:06.560 yesterday and others will likely not be making it to 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:11.600 smack Down tomorrow. I was told that the w w 0:03:11.720 --> 0:03:16.720 E Performance Center came out of this relatively unscathed, so 0:03:17.360 --> 0:03:21.400 that is a wrestling at tie in, but still people 0:03:21.480 --> 0:03:25.080 that live in the area that we're for w w 0:03:25.160 --> 0:03:28.120 E that's still have no power. So hopefully everything gets 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:33.280 cleaned up soon. And uh, that's the story on that 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:39.960 last night a w Dynamite. A lot of stuff happened 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:47.400 on that show and whatever, Well we start with n 0:03:47.520 --> 0:03:49.240 x T. You know, you want to talk about n 0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:50.920 x T. It'll put you in a good mood, at 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:53.040 least part of it will. I was just laughing that 0:03:53.880 --> 0:03:56.320 apparently some people are calling this the worst dynamite of 0:03:56.360 --> 0:03:58.680 all time. What. I don't know, what's up with people 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:01.640 these days? Yeah, really, I just don't know. I mean, 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:04.560 we went through a whole pandemic, you remember those remember 0:04:04.560 --> 0:04:07.280 the first year, how that whole thing ended Dark Order 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:09.960 all that. Not just that, but like, how in God's 0:04:10.040 --> 0:04:12.160 name do you have a show with Chris Jericho versus 0:04:12.200 --> 0:04:14.960 Bandido having that match in the main event and your 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:18.520 conclusion is that was the worst dynamite of all time, 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:21.839 not even close. But we'll get to dynamite later, you asked, 0:04:21.880 --> 0:04:23.800 So I'll talk a little bit about n x T. 0:04:24.120 --> 0:04:28.760 There's two things I want to talk about. One Saul Ruca, 0:04:29.080 --> 0:04:33.280 God bless her, and the other it's like, we have 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:39.039 the good in the bad. Pretty Deadly They're good, They're 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:43.720 they're the good part of this promise. Pretty Deadly is 0:04:43.760 --> 0:04:49.919 the greatest act all of wrestling today. Tomorrow be Sandysane again. 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:54.839 But my god, during the top percentile, for sure, somebody 0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:56.719 on the chat was like, I skipped a segment. I 0:04:56.720 --> 0:05:00.360 thought you watched n x T, But you skipped that segment. 0:05:00.680 --> 0:05:05.200 You made a bad choice, fool. This video of Pretty 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:10.480 Deadly was the funniest. It was just like I tweeted 0:05:10.480 --> 0:05:12.279 like they should get an Emmy just for that video. 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:16.840 It was, so what are they doing in developmental? Why 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:19.240 are they there? Why are they not on the main 0:05:19.320 --> 0:05:22.719 roster right now? Guys, I'm telling you you gotta go 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:25.360 back and watch this, this Pretty Deadly thing. It was 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:29.839 just the and they can work and they're not gonna 0:05:29.920 --> 0:05:34.760 hurt anybody, and they're overflowing with charisma. This act is 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:38.760 just the greatest. It's the greatest. So anyway, I gotta 0:05:38.800 --> 0:05:41.880 put that over and then you know I got it yesterday. 0:05:41.880 --> 0:05:44.720 Oh you're so mean. I wasn't mean to sal Ruca. 0:05:44.920 --> 0:05:49.039 God bless sal Ruca. This is not her fault. Why 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:53.000 is she in the ring right now? Why don't even 0:05:53.080 --> 0:05:56.560 say well, because she's a good looking, fit blonde. They 0:05:56.600 --> 0:05:59.440 got like a dozen of those. Why is sal Ruca 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:02.839 in the ring right now? She's not ready. I felt 0:06:02.880 --> 0:06:05.120 so bad for her having to go out on national 0:06:05.160 --> 0:06:10.120 television and be absolutely completely exposed like that. I mean, 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:14.800 God bless her, Like I explained it last night, And 0:06:14.839 --> 0:06:18.080 this is not a personal attack on saul Ruca. It's 0:06:18.080 --> 0:06:20.159 actually a personal assault that everybody who came up with 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:22.400 this idea to put her in the ring. She went 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:25.600 out there, bro I taught gymnastics for like twenty five 0:06:25.680 --> 0:06:29.000 years or something like that. This was a women's floor 0:06:29.080 --> 0:06:34.520 routine with a professional wrestling motif. That's what it was. 0:06:35.240 --> 0:06:38.159 There was no pro wrestling involved. It was I'm going 0:06:38.240 --> 0:06:41.440 to do a gymnastics move and then we're gonna stand 0:06:41.440 --> 0:06:43.200 and look at each other, and then I'm going to 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:46.120 do another gymnastics move and then we're gonna stand and 0:06:46.120 --> 0:06:48.880 look at each other, and then I'm gonna do another 0:06:48.960 --> 0:06:53.000 gym and eventually I'm gonna win. And I just god, 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:55.039 why did they do this? Is this is what the 0:06:55.120 --> 0:07:00.839 judges gave it. I believe if we're going it's unfair 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:05.480 to her. I feel bad for her. I mean, how 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:08.080 do you think she feels going out there and doing 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:11.160 that and knowing I Am not ready to be doing this. 0:07:11.640 --> 0:07:13.760 It was on a tape show, by the way, so 0:07:13.800 --> 0:07:16.800 what you saw like may have been edited for all 0:07:16.840 --> 0:07:20.720 I know. It's like, dude, just hire wrestlers and let 0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:24.480 them wrestle. I'm not saying don't do the whatever deal 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:27.520 U n I l deals. I'm not saying don't look 0:07:27.560 --> 0:07:31.520 for great athletes. But bro, if you find if you 0:07:31.600 --> 0:07:35.360 find a uh run Breaker, doesn't even count because he 0:07:35.360 --> 0:07:38.200 grew up in a wrestling family. But like you know, 0:07:38.240 --> 0:07:43.120 if you find a Bianca bell Air, that's awesome, that's awesome. 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:48.920 She's great. But this is just a disaster. It's a disaster. 0:07:50.840 --> 0:07:54.200 I never saw the reason to throw everybody into the 0:07:54.240 --> 0:07:58.160 pool at once. You know, Yeah, the creeds on the 0:07:58.200 --> 0:08:00.840 surface looked like they were going to have more potential 0:08:00.960 --> 0:08:03.480 because of where they came from and the type of 0:08:03.560 --> 0:08:06.160 machines they were working out and how they worked out 0:08:06.560 --> 0:08:10.600 and all that stuff. Same thing with braun Breaker. Poor 0:08:10.640 --> 0:08:15.200 Saul Rucco falls into the Lash Legend category. Where why 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:18.080 are we seeing this woman? Why are we seeing this 0:08:18.160 --> 0:08:21.160 woman in the ring now? Especially when you have so 0:08:21.200 --> 0:08:25.040 many other women on your roster that you are trying 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:29.120 to form, including Tiffany Stratton, who has gotten a great start, 0:08:29.200 --> 0:08:32.400 but she is far far from you know, ready to 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:35.840 be walking in in main inventing WrestleMania. Same thing with 0:08:35.920 --> 0:08:39.960 whoever you like, Alan Henley or Zoe Stark or whoever. 0:08:40.640 --> 0:08:43.120 They still need to be polished up in all best 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:45.960 case scenario before they go to the main roster. Concentrate 0:08:46.080 --> 0:08:50.040 on them. Saul Rocus sal Rucus should not be anywhere 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:53.280 other than maybe on level up. I mean, if you 0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:57.320 look at her, she is a physical specimen. You see 0:08:57.320 --> 0:08:59.520 her standing next to those other women. I mean you 0:08:59.559 --> 0:09:03.280 look at her upper body. She is in incredible shape. 0:09:03.800 --> 0:09:06.439 Why are we being exposed to this woman now before 0:09:06.520 --> 0:09:08.840 we can even know if she can rustle, especially when 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:11.760 you've done this with Lash Legend and his Lash legend 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:15.160 any better off for it. I would say, no, no, 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:21.560 she's not. You know, hell, let's talk more about some 0:09:21.600 --> 0:09:24.640 other news here, then we'll get going. Uh, Tony D'Angelo 0:09:24.679 --> 0:09:27.720 should be back sooner than you would think. I saw 0:09:27.840 --> 0:09:29.880 the I was actually baffled they put it on television, 0:09:29.920 --> 0:09:31.360 but I guess it's a tape show, and I mean, 0:09:31.400 --> 0:09:33.839 you got to fill up two hours. But they showed 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:36.440 the match with him and wes Lee and he took 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:39.160 a drop toe hold into the buckle and literally there 0:09:39.240 --> 0:09:43.000 was no twisting, there was no He just landed on 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:46.280 his knee and it hurt and he didn't get back 0:09:46.360 --> 0:09:50.200 up and they stopped the match, and you know, God 0:09:50.200 --> 0:09:55.120 bless everybody involved. But wes Lee was nearly in tears. 0:09:56.880 --> 0:09:59.000 You know, I'm sure you were sad that your your 0:09:59.000 --> 0:10:02.720 friend got hurt everything like yet, but you must keep character. Okay, 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:05.000 it was he didn't break his neck. He was holding 0:10:05.040 --> 0:10:07.960 his kind of though Wesley's character. If somebody's gonna kind 0:10:07.960 --> 0:10:11.200 of feel really bad about this, it probably would be 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:15.520 a match to determine who was going into a ladder 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:19.559 match for the North American title. And you won. But 0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:23.199 he's a really good a good guy. Okay, listen, I 0:10:23.280 --> 0:10:25.120 understand that, like, you don't want to see the guy 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:27.839 hurt his knee. But Bro, you're punching him, you're kicking him, 0:10:27.840 --> 0:10:30.880 you're slamming him, you're hitting with moves. You're actively trying 0:10:30.920 --> 0:10:33.000 to hurt him throughout the match. It doesn't make any 0:10:33.040 --> 0:10:35.160 sense that you would do a drop toll hold and 0:10:35.160 --> 0:10:37.400 win a match with a drop toll hold and then cry. 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:42.720 It doesn't make sense. Sports, Bro, Sports, That's what happens. 0:10:42.760 --> 0:10:44.440 You know, two guys are out there trying to kill 0:10:44.480 --> 0:10:46.880 each other. Somebody goes down on the field. You get 0:10:46.880 --> 0:10:49.080 that moment a reflection. Man, that could have been me. 0:10:49.640 --> 0:10:51.720 And if anybody's going to do that, like I said, 0:10:51.760 --> 0:10:53.560 it's going to be Wesley. Now if I ever see 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:58.000 a he'll do this. No, no, you gotta get fired 0:10:58.320 --> 0:11:01.720 right away. Bill Watts style good ut. Wes Lee was not. 0:11:02.280 --> 0:11:05.000 Wes Lee was not happy with winning via injury. This 0:11:05.040 --> 0:11:09.360 person says, well, how is he gonna win? Well, Brian, 0:11:09.440 --> 0:11:12.400 remember this is a guy that turned down an opportunity 0:11:12.480 --> 0:11:15.120 to just be put right into the qualifier. So he's 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:17.920 he's not a break guy. Maybe he's just Okay, you're 0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:19.839 gonna you're gonna hit an INTERGEARI and brain him in 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:21.520 the back of the head and cover him. But that 0:11:21.559 --> 0:11:25.320 didn't hurt him in storyline. Unless you're just going to 0:11:25.480 --> 0:11:29.280 only technical wrestle, the moment you throw a strike or 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:34.120 a throw or whatever, you're potentially hurting the other person, 0:11:34.880 --> 0:11:38.120 right who cares? The point is the good news, uh, 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:40.520 Tony D'Angelo. It does not appear to be a serious injury. 0:11:40.559 --> 0:11:43.679 He should be back soon, so that is that is 0:11:43.760 --> 0:11:49.040 good news. N x T six viewers down four point 0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:52.040 one percent from last week, lowest audience total for the 0:11:52.040 --> 0:11:57.720 show since August nine, the cable charts point one six. 0:11:58.000 --> 0:12:04.880 Of course, the Weather Channel topped the cable charts as 0:12:04.880 --> 0:12:09.440 a result of Hurricane Ian. So and as always, you know, 0:12:09.559 --> 0:12:11.600 my wife was glued to the Weather Channel, so this 0:12:11.640 --> 0:12:14.520 doesn't surprise me one bit when she's watching the Weather Channel. 0:12:15.320 --> 0:12:17.400 Trust me, a lot of people are watching the Weather Channel. 0:12:18.520 --> 0:12:23.319 So that's that. And then they'll be back live next Tuesday, 0:12:23.760 --> 0:12:26.959 so we'll see where things go and we'll see what 0:12:27.120 --> 0:12:30.959 the center after took a two weeks off back in 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:33.000 a monent, we're gonna just go right to dynamite because 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:37.720 over live start rats so bad the walls fallen through 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:46.440 the fre just as well the cave score me We'll 0:12:46.559 --> 0:12:53.000 be a father. From the tweet in the cool, cool morning, 0:12:54.200 --> 0:13:02.400 turn the days to swim, say living Rode is easy, man, 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:07.520 I can already tell, I can already tell that is 0:13:07.600 --> 0:13:13.320 the kids say, I'm gonna have to simple right for who? 0:13:13.800 --> 0:13:18.480 The women again? Oh well, you're gonna It's gonna be 0:13:18.480 --> 0:13:22.400 a yelloman's effort from you. I feel listen to everybody. 0:13:23.720 --> 0:13:27.679 Was that segment with Sorea last night? Great? No? No, no, 0:13:27.760 --> 0:13:32.600 it was? She even tweeted today that it wasn't great? 0:13:34.320 --> 0:13:37.240 What did she say? Say? Admits she may have been 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:41.000 quote a little rusty during her appearance on a W Dynamite. 0:13:41.520 --> 0:13:44.480 After making her debut a grand Slam Soraya kind of 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:46.760 promo on this week's show, leading to the title match 0:13:46.760 --> 0:13:49.800 between Tony Storm and Serenade, she posted a social media 0:13:49.840 --> 0:13:52.720 on Thursday stating she is proud of the segment for 0:13:52.760 --> 0:13:55.560 showcasing quote a good portion of the women's division, even 0:13:55.559 --> 0:13:58.480 if it was not her best performance. On a good note, 0:13:58.640 --> 0:14:00.880 she said, I'm so proud of the him in yesterday. 0:14:01.000 --> 0:14:02.840 Not only did they get more than five minutes, have 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:05.520 a match it was the first ever lumberjack match, a 0:14:05.559 --> 0:14:07.439 woman on commentary, and a good portion of the roster 0:14:07.480 --> 0:14:10.520 being showcased. That's so win, even if I was a 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:15.000 little rusty. Now, let's just start with an We'll talk 0:14:15.040 --> 0:14:17.000 about the full show in the next segment, because I 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:22.320 got a couple of things to say. First off, did 0:14:22.320 --> 0:14:25.880 it make any sense to have a lumberjack match last night? No, 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:31.200 of course not. Now I'm gonna pull a Dave here, okay, 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:33.080 and I'm gonna tell you why I think they did 0:14:33.160 --> 0:14:37.480 a lumberjack match. Okay, this is not me defending. Do 0:14:37.480 --> 0:14:40.600 you understand. This is not me defending the lumberjack match. 0:14:41.160 --> 0:14:44.600 This is me telling you why I think they did it. Okay. 0:14:45.240 --> 0:14:47.720 As I pointed out, if you look at the quarters, 0:14:48.600 --> 0:14:51.520 when they were just doing a random one on one 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:57.960 women's match in the death segment, it died every week. Okay. 0:14:58.480 --> 0:15:01.720 So they finally decide, and this did not have to 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:04.120 do with me, but we all recognize it, we all 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:06.760 talked about here on this show. They finally decide, you 0:15:06.760 --> 0:15:09.160 know what, we should actually try something with these women, 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:13.840 and so they began doing tag matches with what they 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:17.640 believed were the biggest stars in the first hour, and 0:15:17.720 --> 0:15:23.760 you know what, it did better. And every time they 0:15:23.760 --> 0:15:27.880 did a tag match a multi woman match in the 0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:33.000 first hour, it did way better then when they did 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:35.720 a random one on one singles match in the second hour. 0:15:37.120 --> 0:15:39.480 I hate to quote seeing punk of all people these days, 0:15:39.600 --> 0:15:43.800 but stop me when I'm lying. Okay, that's what happened. 0:15:43.800 --> 0:15:46.480 You can look at the quarters. So I think the 0:15:46.680 --> 0:15:50.320 reason I'm not defending it because in storyline, why would 0:15:50.320 --> 0:15:54.120 you have a lumberjack match? But the reason they booked 0:15:54.160 --> 0:15:57.200 a lumberjack match, the reason Tony con put a lumberjack 0:15:57.240 --> 0:16:02.600 match on television was because he looks at the quarters 0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:08.000 and segments with a large number of women have been 0:16:08.040 --> 0:16:11.720 doing better. That's why he did it. Now, was there 0:16:11.760 --> 0:16:14.080 any storyline? No, of course not. Why would we have 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:17.440 why is there a lumberjack I don't know. Okay. Was 0:16:17.520 --> 0:16:22.320 Sir Riah's promo great? No? She even at one point 0:16:22.400 --> 0:16:26.960 she was trying to say I created a revolution there 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:30.320 and I'm going to create a revolution here, and instead 0:16:30.360 --> 0:16:33.600 she said I created a revolution here and I will 0:16:33.640 --> 0:16:36.600 create a revolution here. She was not on her game. Okay, 0:16:38.480 --> 0:16:42.600 then I'm gonna hear about it. Listen, I go to 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:44.480 the dentist four times a year. It doesn't mean I 0:16:44.520 --> 0:16:48.640 like the dentist. Okay, But let's talk about Britt Baker 0:16:48.720 --> 0:16:52.480 again because I heard all about it today. Why is 0:16:52.520 --> 0:16:56.520 Britt Baker the centerpiece? Why is Britt Baker being pushed? 0:16:57.040 --> 0:17:03.080 Why is Britt Baker all over the show? Am I 0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:07.639 the only one? Mike? Am I the only one? No? 0:17:07.760 --> 0:17:13.679 You're not? Okay? Thank you? Thank you? Okay, I'm not 0:17:13.720 --> 0:17:16.840 saying that any point. Was the women's division ever on 0:17:17.200 --> 0:17:25.119 fire in a W? But? Am I wrong? The hottest 0:17:25.320 --> 0:17:29.399 this division has ever been was when Britt Baker was 0:17:29.440 --> 0:17:32.240 the champion? Am I wrong about that? Was it hotter 0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:36.240 when thunder Rosa was the champion? Was it hotter now 0:17:36.280 --> 0:17:39.359 that Tony Storm is the champion? What was the hottest 0:17:39.400 --> 0:17:41.600 period of a W? It was when Britt Baker was 0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:45.399 the champion? Right then? People go, well, they never let 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:51.960 anyone get over bro dude. Thunder Rosa beat her, and 0:17:52.240 --> 0:17:54.760 the idea was that she was going to be a 0:17:54.840 --> 0:18:01.720 huge star. She wasn't. Don't tell me they didn't try. 0:18:01.920 --> 0:18:07.320 We all watched the thunder Rosa rain. Okay, they did 0:18:07.320 --> 0:18:12.760 not go from thunder Rosa back to Britt Baker. In fact, 0:18:13.440 --> 0:18:15.640 I don't know what everyone's talking about, but you can 0:18:15.680 --> 0:18:18.720 go up stop me if I'm lying, Go up and 0:18:18.760 --> 0:18:21.680 look at Britt Baker's win lost record of late. She's 0:18:21.680 --> 0:18:25.520 been in there putting people over. Am I watching a 0:18:25.560 --> 0:18:30.400 different show than everybody else? She was? Granted, there weren't 0:18:30.400 --> 0:18:32.639 a lot of people that talked last night, but she 0:18:32.840 --> 0:18:36.280 was by far the best talker in that entire segment 0:18:36.400 --> 0:18:39.040 last night. And everyone's like, you know, what I heard 0:18:39.040 --> 0:18:41.040 today was that we just need something different. We need 0:18:41.080 --> 0:18:46.320 to turn her baby face and Jamie Hayter confused with 0:18:46.320 --> 0:18:47.920 her as a hell. I almost fell out of my chair. 0:18:49.600 --> 0:18:53.840 Have we forgotten Britt Baker's baby face? Run? You want 0:18:53.880 --> 0:18:58.919 to turn Britt Baker baby face? And you want Jamie Hayter, 0:18:59.640 --> 0:19:03.120 who last night the fans randomly he just started chanting 0:19:03.160 --> 0:19:05.040 her name at the top of her lungs. You want 0:19:05.359 --> 0:19:10.880 her to be the hell? Am I in an alternate universe? Here? 0:19:12.160 --> 0:19:15.080 Britt is a thousand times better as a hell, and 0:19:15.160 --> 0:19:17.879 Jamie is gonna be super over as a baby face. 0:19:18.119 --> 0:19:20.080 And I know that people think, well, you know they're 0:19:20.080 --> 0:19:22.000 back together again or whatever, like why are they aren't 0:19:22.000 --> 0:19:24.399 they gonna do it? Listen, First off, aw doesn't do 0:19:24.400 --> 0:19:30.400 anything quick. Obviously, Britt and Jamie are going to break up, 0:19:31.080 --> 0:19:34.920 and Jamie is gonna go baby face and she's gonna 0:19:34.960 --> 0:19:38.320 be a huge star as a baby face, at least 0:19:38.320 --> 0:19:41.919 as biggest star is U a w female can get 0:19:41.960 --> 0:19:44.000 at this point. And she's gonna feud with and she's 0:19:44.000 --> 0:19:46.719 gonna beat Britt Baker, Right, Am I wrong? I mean, 0:19:46.760 --> 0:19:49.440 I don't know, but like, is that not obvious? That's 0:19:49.480 --> 0:19:56.240 the direction we're going here. Why hasn't it happened yet? Well, 0:19:56.320 --> 0:19:58.760 I don't know. I don't know, but I do know 0:19:58.880 --> 0:20:05.360 two things, Okay. Number one, Number one, they take a 0:20:05.440 --> 0:20:08.640 long time to get to where they're going historically, Am 0:20:08.640 --> 0:20:11.119 I wrong? It's gonna be a while. They don't do 0:20:11.200 --> 0:20:14.159 anything quick. And the other thing I know, And I 0:20:14.160 --> 0:20:16.320 don't know if this is the reason, but based on history, 0:20:16.320 --> 0:20:21.000 this could be the reason. There have been many start 0:20:21.040 --> 0:20:26.760 and stop pushes that have resulted from something happening. Okay, 0:20:26.760 --> 0:20:30.879 whether that be Remember even um Alistair Black was talking 0:20:30.880 --> 0:20:34.200 about how you know, uh I was injured and that's 0:20:34.240 --> 0:20:36.040 why everything was put on hold with the House of 0:20:36.080 --> 0:20:37.760 Black for a while. But they don't talk about anybody 0:20:37.800 --> 0:20:40.160 being injured, so no fans knew that. They just thought, well, 0:20:40.400 --> 0:20:43.640 this thing starts and stops. No, no, no no, no, there's 0:20:43.680 --> 0:20:46.080 a very good chance or whatever is going on with 0:20:46.160 --> 0:20:49.439 Britt and uh and Jamie Hayter was also going to 0:20:49.520 --> 0:20:52.880 involve thunder Rosa, who one day showed up and said 0:20:53.080 --> 0:20:56.000 I'm hurt. I can't wrestle now. And now she's gone 0:20:56.240 --> 0:20:59.240 and nobody knows when she's going to be back. So 0:20:59.560 --> 0:21:01.959 there's a good chance. And the reason that this began 0:21:02.080 --> 0:21:06.760 and then stopped is because they're waiting for thunder Rosa, 0:21:07.160 --> 0:21:10.000 just like we put this six man title thing on 0:21:10.119 --> 0:21:14.040 hold for like a year and a half because we 0:21:14.040 --> 0:21:16.480 were waiting. And then you know, Kenny Omega went down 0:21:16.480 --> 0:21:18.920 and they literally waited until he came back, and then 0:21:19.080 --> 0:21:21.199 four weeks later we have six man champions and then 0:21:21.200 --> 0:21:23.720 we all know how that happened. But anyway, Yeah, it 0:21:23.760 --> 0:21:26.800 was this segment great. No, was it an absolute disaster 0:21:26.880 --> 0:21:30.040 that made this the worst dynamite of all time? No, 0:21:30.760 --> 0:21:33.400 And I don't know what's going on, Well, who cares 0:21:33.440 --> 0:21:38.280 or whatever? I've sent my piece. It ran for years. No, 0:21:38.440 --> 0:21:41.320 it was not the worst thing on the worst Dynamite 0:21:41.359 --> 0:21:44.919 ever that would be silly, but it was overbooked. You know, 0:21:45.040 --> 0:21:47.760 you go, well, why couldn't have been How could this 0:21:47.800 --> 0:21:51.159 have become a lumberjack match, because at the beginning of 0:21:51.200 --> 0:21:55.360 the show, you've had how many how many there were 0:21:55.359 --> 0:21:58.959 what four matches, five matches? How many segments did you 0:21:59.000 --> 0:22:01.720 have where you talked to somebody backstage or something was 0:22:01.760 --> 0:22:04.239 going on where at the beginning of the show, you 0:22:04.280 --> 0:22:08.320 couldn't have had Penelope Ford and Britt Baker and Rebel 0:22:08.440 --> 0:22:11.520 and Jamie all beat somebody down or attempt to beat 0:22:11.560 --> 0:22:15.840 down Tony Storm before her match against Serena Deeve and 0:22:15.960 --> 0:22:19.080 Sorea is there and they do something where she's got 0:22:19.080 --> 0:22:21.480 a reason to make it a lumberteck match and she's 0:22:21.520 --> 0:22:24.639 got a reason to introduce both the rosters. I'm not 0:22:24.680 --> 0:22:27.520 going to get on her about the fact that she flubbed. 0:22:28.200 --> 0:22:30.720 It happens to everybody, and it had to really suck 0:22:30.800 --> 0:22:32.639 to be out there because it was hard not to 0:22:32.680 --> 0:22:35.480 feel for because it went on painfully for so long. 0:22:35.880 --> 0:22:37.840 But the fact that that whole segment was set up 0:22:37.840 --> 0:22:40.240 to be that way and to be so whack and 0:22:40.280 --> 0:22:42.320 have her just walked by Britt on the way out 0:22:42.359 --> 0:22:44.600 and here we go with the match. You know, that's 0:22:44.640 --> 0:22:48.040 the Booker's fault. That's whoever put it put it together's fault. 0:22:48.560 --> 0:22:52.000 And that's also where two things can be true. As 0:22:52.040 --> 0:22:55.200 far as I'm not blaming Britt Baker for anything, but 0:22:55.800 --> 0:22:58.320 Britt Baker is the only person who's gotten over there 0:22:58.520 --> 0:23:02.080 as far as a women's start else period, there has 0:23:02.119 --> 0:23:05.879 been nobody else. Thunder Rosa did not get over and 0:23:05.920 --> 0:23:08.679 who knows what exactly all the reasons are behind that, 0:23:08.760 --> 0:23:10.879 whether she was hurt, whether there was this or that, 0:23:10.960 --> 0:23:14.400 who cares. You know, Jamie Hayter is going to because 0:23:14.760 --> 0:23:19.040 partially the association with Britt Baker, and that's not Baker's fault, 0:23:19.359 --> 0:23:22.320 but it's somebody's fault that we've gone on this long 0:23:22.440 --> 0:23:25.480 now and with the look and I understand Chris stat 0:23:25.520 --> 0:23:28.600 Lander's hurt, and that's look. I'm not discounting that at 0:23:28.640 --> 0:23:30.240 all because I think she was going to be a 0:23:30.240 --> 0:23:33.560 big piece of the puzzle. But there has been nobody else, 0:23:33.680 --> 0:23:36.960 and at some point there has got to be somebody else, 0:23:37.200 --> 0:23:39.720 no matter what the excuses are, you have got to 0:23:39.760 --> 0:23:42.920 find somebody else. And right now Tony Storm is spinning 0:23:43.520 --> 0:23:46.240 Ruby soho I know she's hurt, but she was just 0:23:46.280 --> 0:23:49.480 sitting there spinning. Athena came in, people thought she was 0:23:49.520 --> 0:23:51.479 going to be the answer. I never thought she was, 0:23:51.560 --> 0:23:54.320 but she's just kind of sitting there spinning. So yeah, 0:23:54.320 --> 0:23:56.440 you've got to figure out something because you have that, 0:23:56.600 --> 0:23:59.439 and then you have a really powerful jade that's a 0:23:59.480 --> 0:24:03.000 completely separate cannon worms that you gotta deal with. Back 0:24:03.040 --> 0:24:06.359 in them on with the full Dynamite Review, Observer Live. 0:24:12.359 --> 0:24:14.640 Back in the show, Bright newba is here, Wrestling Observer 0:24:14.800 --> 0:24:17.480 Live Mixumber Viva, also Wrestling Observer dot Com. I gotta 0:24:17.520 --> 0:24:21.040 say one other thing, not specifically about Brittain, but Britain, 0:24:21.119 --> 0:24:24.000 Jamie Hayter, this, this, and and many other things as well. 0:24:25.240 --> 0:24:29.880 I a thousand percent agree with people who say, sometimes 0:24:29.880 --> 0:24:32.720 the stuff goes on way too long. Sometimes you just 0:24:32.760 --> 0:24:35.720