Speaker 1: Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition
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Speaker 1: is a Thursday here on this program, and you know
Speaker 1: what that means. We had a lot to talk about
Speaker 1: here today, including fallout from the A e W Dynamite
Speaker 1: show last night. Will the streak continue of one million
Speaker 1: plus viewers. We're gonna find out later on today. But
Speaker 1: a lot to talk about from that show, including championship matches,
Speaker 1: champiship contender matches, yes, the women's segment in the middle
Speaker 1: of the show, and uh and so much more so.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun. And you know what, yesterday I
Speaker 1: did not get to talk about n x T two
Speaker 1: point oh, But if we have time today, I can't wait,
Speaker 1: particularly to talk about Pretty Deadly, the greatest act in
Speaker 1: all of professional wrestling. Giving old Sammy Zane a run
Speaker 1: for his money. We have updates on Tony D'Angelo the
Speaker 1: n x T ratings, and has noted not only do
Speaker 1: we have a lot to talk about from Dynamite, but
Speaker 1: they got some big shows coming up, including very soon
Speaker 1: we're gonna have like a month straight of live rampage shows.
Speaker 1: So we got a lot of matches to talk about there,
Speaker 1: and uh, of course an x T building up some
Speaker 1: stuff as well, and we've got an update on the
Speaker 1: the n x T for Mints Center after Hurricane Ian.
Speaker 1: So a lot to get into here today. We'll also
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Speaker 1: best wishes everybody in or around the path of Hurricane
Speaker 1: Ian and uh, several talents not making it to Dynamite
Speaker 1: yesterday and others will likely not be making it to
Speaker 1: smack Down tomorrow. I was told that the w w
Speaker 1: E Performance Center came out of this relatively unscathed, so
Speaker 1: that is a wrestling at tie in, but still people
Speaker 1: that live in the area that we're for w w
Speaker 1: E that's still have no power. So hopefully everything gets
Speaker 1: cleaned up soon. And uh, that's the story on that
Speaker 1: last night a w Dynamite. A lot of stuff happened
Speaker 1: on that show and whatever, Well we start with n
Speaker 1: x T. You know, you want to talk about n
Speaker 1: x T. It'll put you in a good mood, at
Speaker 1: least part of it will. I was just laughing that
Speaker 1: apparently some people are calling this the worst dynamite of
Speaker 1: all time. What. I don't know, what's up with people
Speaker 1: these days? Yeah, really, I just don't know. I mean,
Speaker 1: we went through a whole pandemic, you remember those remember
Speaker 1: the first year, how that whole thing ended Dark Order
Speaker 1: all that. Not just that, but like, how in God's
Speaker 1: name do you have a show with Chris Jericho versus
Speaker 1: Bandido having that match in the main event and your
Speaker 1: conclusion is that was the worst dynamite of all time,
Speaker 1: not even close. But we'll get to dynamite later, you asked,
Speaker 1: So I'll talk a little bit about n x T.
Speaker 1: There's two things I want to talk about. One Saul Ruca,
Speaker 1: God bless her, and the other it's like, we have
Speaker 1: the good in the bad. Pretty Deadly They're good, They're
Speaker 1: they're the good part of this promise. Pretty Deadly is
Speaker 1: the greatest act all of wrestling today. Tomorrow be Sandysane again.
Speaker 1: But my god, during the top percentile, for sure, somebody
Speaker 1: on the chat was like, I skipped a segment. I
Speaker 1: thought you watched n x T, But you skipped that segment.
Speaker 1: You made a bad choice, fool. This video of Pretty
Speaker 1: Deadly was the funniest. It was just like I tweeted
Speaker 1: like they should get an Emmy just for that video.
Speaker 1: It was, so what are they doing in developmental? Why
Speaker 1: are they there? Why are they not on the main
Speaker 1: roster right now? Guys, I'm telling you you gotta go
Speaker 1: back and watch this, this Pretty Deadly thing. It was
Speaker 1: just the and they can work and they're not gonna
Speaker 1: hurt anybody, and they're overflowing with charisma. This act is
Speaker 1: just the greatest. It's the greatest. So anyway, I gotta
Speaker 1: put that over and then you know I got it yesterday.
Speaker 1: Oh you're so mean. I wasn't mean to sal Ruca.
Speaker 1: God bless sal Ruca. This is not her fault. Why
Speaker 1: is she in the ring right now? Why don't even
Speaker 1: say well, because she's a good looking, fit blonde. They
Speaker 1: got like a dozen of those. Why is sal Ruca
Speaker 1: in the ring right now? She's not ready. I felt
Speaker 1: so bad for her having to go out on national
Speaker 1: television and be absolutely completely exposed like that. I mean,
Speaker 1: God bless her, Like I explained it last night, And
Speaker 1: this is not a personal attack on saul Ruca. It's
Speaker 1: actually a personal assault that everybody who came up with
Speaker 1: this idea to put her in the ring. She went
Speaker 1: out there, bro I taught gymnastics for like twenty five
Speaker 1: years or something like that. This was a women's floor
Speaker 1: routine with a professional wrestling motif. That's what it was.
Speaker 1: There was no pro wrestling involved. It was I'm going
Speaker 1: to do a gymnastics move and then we're gonna stand
Speaker 1: and look at each other, and then I'm going to
Speaker 1: do another gymnastics move and then we're gonna stand and
Speaker 1: look at each other, and then I'm gonna do another
Speaker 1: gym and eventually I'm gonna win. And I just god,
Speaker 1: why did they do this? Is this is what the
Speaker 1: judges gave it. I believe if we're going it's unfair
Speaker 1: to her. I feel bad for her. I mean, how
Speaker 1: do you think she feels going out there and doing
Speaker 1: that and knowing I Am not ready to be doing this.
Speaker 1: It was on a tape show, by the way, so
Speaker 1: what you saw like may have been edited for all
Speaker 1: I know. It's like, dude, just hire wrestlers and let
Speaker 1: them wrestle. I'm not saying don't do the whatever deal
Speaker 1: U n I l deals. I'm not saying don't look
Speaker 1: for great athletes. But bro, if you find if you
Speaker 1: find a uh run Breaker, doesn't even count because he
Speaker 1: grew up in a wrestling family. But like you know,
Speaker 1: if you find a Bianca bell Air, that's awesome, that's awesome.
Speaker 1: She's great. But this is just a disaster. It's a disaster.
Speaker 1: I never saw the reason to throw everybody into the
Speaker 1: pool at once. You know, Yeah, the creeds on the
Speaker 1: surface looked like they were going to have more potential
Speaker 1: because of where they came from and the type of
Speaker 1: machines they were working out and how they worked out
Speaker 1: and all that stuff. Same thing with braun Breaker. Poor
Speaker 1: Saul Rucco falls into the Lash Legend category. Where why
Speaker 1: are we seeing this woman? Why are we seeing this
Speaker 1: woman in the ring now? Especially when you have so
Speaker 1: many other women on your roster that you are trying
Speaker 1: to form, including Tiffany Stratton, who has gotten a great start,
Speaker 1: but she is far far from you know, ready to
Speaker 1: be walking in in main inventing WrestleMania. Same thing with
Speaker 1: whoever you like, Alan Henley or Zoe Stark or whoever.
Speaker 1: They still need to be polished up in all best
Speaker 1: case scenario before they go to the main roster. Concentrate
Speaker 1: on them. Saul Rocus sal Rucus should not be anywhere
Speaker 1: other than maybe on level up. I mean, if you
Speaker 1: look at her, she is a physical specimen. You see
Speaker 1: her standing next to those other women. I mean you
Speaker 1: look at her upper body. She is in incredible shape.
Speaker 1: Why are we being exposed to this woman now before
Speaker 1: we can even know if she can rustle, especially when
Speaker 1: you've done this with Lash Legend and his Lash legend
Speaker 1: any better off for it. I would say, no, no,
Speaker 1: she's not. You know, hell, let's talk more about some
Speaker 1: other news here, then we'll get going. Uh, Tony D'Angelo
Speaker 1: should be back sooner than you would think. I saw
Speaker 1: the I was actually baffled they put it on television,
Speaker 1: but I guess it's a tape show, and I mean,
Speaker 1: you got to fill up two hours. But they showed
Speaker 1: the match with him and wes Lee and he took
Speaker 1: a drop toe hold into the buckle and literally there
Speaker 1: was no twisting, there was no He just landed on
Speaker 1: his knee and it hurt and he didn't get back
Speaker 1: up and they stopped the match, and you know, God
Speaker 1: bless everybody involved. But wes Lee was nearly in tears.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm sure you were sad that your your
Speaker 1: friend got hurt everything like yet, but you must keep character. Okay,
Speaker 1: it was he didn't break his neck. He was holding
Speaker 1: his kind of though Wesley's character. If somebody's gonna kind
Speaker 1: of feel really bad about this, it probably would be
Speaker 1: a match to determine who was going into a ladder
Speaker 1: match for the North American title. And you won. But
Speaker 1: he's a really good a good guy. Okay, listen, I
Speaker 1: understand that, like, you don't want to see the guy
Speaker 1: hurt his knee. But Bro, you're punching him, you're kicking him,
Speaker 1: you're slamming him, you're hitting with moves. You're actively trying
Speaker 1: to hurt him throughout the match. It doesn't make any
Speaker 1: sense that you would do a drop toll hold and
Speaker 1: win a match with a drop toll hold and then cry.
Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense. Sports, Bro, Sports, That's what happens.
Speaker 1: You know, two guys are out there trying to kill
Speaker 1: each other. Somebody goes down on the field. You get
Speaker 1: that moment a reflection. Man, that could have been me.
Speaker 1: And if anybody's going to do that, like I said,
Speaker 1: it's going to be Wesley. Now if I ever see
Speaker 1: a he'll do this. No, no, you gotta get fired
Speaker 1: right away. Bill Watts style good ut. Wes Lee was not.
Speaker 1: Wes Lee was not happy with winning via injury. This
Speaker 1: person says, well, how is he gonna win? Well, Brian,
Speaker 1: remember this is a guy that turned down an opportunity
Speaker 1: to just be put right into the qualifier. So he's
Speaker 1: he's not a break guy. Maybe he's just Okay, you're
Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna hit an INTERGEARI and brain him in
Speaker 1: the back of the head and cover him. But that
Speaker 1: didn't hurt him in storyline. Unless you're just going to
Speaker 1: only technical wrestle, the moment you throw a strike or
Speaker 1: a throw or whatever, you're potentially hurting the other person,
Speaker 1: right who cares? The point is the good news, uh,
Speaker 1: Tony D'Angelo. It does not appear to be a serious injury.
Speaker 1: He should be back soon, so that is that is
Speaker 1: good news. N x T six viewers down four point
Speaker 1: one percent from last week, lowest audience total for the
Speaker 1: show since August nine, the cable charts point one six.
Speaker 1: Of course, the Weather Channel topped the cable charts as
Speaker 1: a result of Hurricane Ian. So and as always, you know,
Speaker 1: my wife was glued to the Weather Channel, so this
Speaker 1: doesn't surprise me one bit when she's watching the Weather Channel.
Speaker 1: Trust me, a lot of people are watching the Weather Channel.
Speaker 1: So that's that. And then they'll be back live next Tuesday,
Speaker 1: so we'll see where things go and we'll see what
Speaker 1: the center after took a two weeks off back in
Speaker 1: a monent, we're gonna just go right to dynamite because
Speaker 1: over live start rats so bad the walls fallen through
Speaker 1: the fre just as well the cave score me We'll
Speaker 1: be a father. From the tweet in the cool, cool morning,
Speaker 1: turn the days to swim, say living Rode is easy, man,
Speaker 1: I can already tell, I can already tell that is
Speaker 1: the kids say, I'm gonna have to simple right for who?
Speaker 1: The women again? Oh well, you're gonna It's gonna be
Speaker 1: a yelloman's effort from you. I feel listen to everybody.
Speaker 1: Was that segment with Sorea last night? Great? No? No, no,
Speaker 1: it was? She even tweeted today that it wasn't great?
Speaker 1: What did she say? Say? Admits she may have been
Speaker 1: quote a little rusty during her appearance on a W Dynamite.
Speaker 1: After making her debut a grand Slam Soraya kind of
Speaker 1: promo on this week's show, leading to the title match
Speaker 1: between Tony Storm and Serenade, she posted a social media
Speaker 1: on Thursday stating she is proud of the segment for
Speaker 1: showcasing quote a good portion of the women's division, even
Speaker 1: if it was not her best performance. On a good note,
Speaker 1: she said, I'm so proud of the him in yesterday.
Speaker 1: Not only did they get more than five minutes, have
Speaker 1: a match it was the first ever lumberjack match, a
Speaker 1: woman on commentary, and a good portion of the roster
Speaker 1: being showcased. That's so win, even if I was a
Speaker 1: little rusty. Now, let's just start with an We'll talk
Speaker 1: about the full show in the next segment, because I
Speaker 1: got a couple of things to say. First off, did
Speaker 1: it make any sense to have a lumberjack match last night? No,
Speaker 1: of course not. Now I'm gonna pull a Dave here, okay,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna tell you why I think they did
Speaker 1: a lumberjack match. Okay, this is not me defending. Do
Speaker 1: you understand. This is not me defending the lumberjack match.
Speaker 1: This is me telling you why I think they did it. Okay.
Speaker 1: As I pointed out, if you look at the quarters,
Speaker 1: when they were just doing a random one on one
Speaker 1: women's match in the death segment, it died every week. Okay.
Speaker 1: So they finally decide, and this did not have to
Speaker 1: do with me, but we all recognize it, we all
Speaker 1: talked about here on this show. They finally decide, you
Speaker 1: know what, we should actually try something with these women,
Speaker 1: and so they began doing tag matches with what they
Speaker 1: believed were the biggest stars in the first hour, and
Speaker 1: you know what, it did better. And every time they
Speaker 1: did a tag match a multi woman match in the
Speaker 1: first hour, it did way better then when they did
Speaker 1: a random one on one singles match in the second hour.
Speaker 1: I hate to quote seeing punk of all people these days,
Speaker 1: but stop me when I'm lying. Okay, that's what happened.
Speaker 1: You can look at the quarters. So I think the
Speaker 1: reason I'm not defending it because in storyline, why would
Speaker 1: you have a lumberjack match? But the reason they booked
Speaker 1: a lumberjack match, the reason Tony con put a lumberjack
Speaker 1: match on television was because he looks at the quarters
Speaker 1: and segments with a large number of women have been
Speaker 1: doing better. That's why he did it. Now, was there
Speaker 1: any storyline? No, of course not. Why would we have
Speaker 1: why is there a lumberjack I don't know. Okay. Was
Speaker 1: Sir Riah's promo great? No? She even at one point
Speaker 1: she was trying to say I created a revolution there
Speaker 1: and I'm going to create a revolution here, and instead
Speaker 1: she said I created a revolution here and I will
Speaker 1: create a revolution here. She was not on her game. Okay,
Speaker 1: then I'm gonna hear about it. Listen, I go to
Speaker 1: the dentist four times a year. It doesn't mean I
Speaker 1: like the dentist. Okay, But let's talk about Britt Baker
Speaker 1: again because I heard all about it today. Why is
Speaker 1: Britt Baker the centerpiece? Why is Britt Baker being pushed?
Speaker 1: Why is Britt Baker all over the show? Am I
Speaker 1: the only one? Mike? Am I the only one? No?
Speaker 1: You're not? Okay? Thank you? Thank you? Okay, I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that any point. Was the women's division ever on
Speaker 1: fire in a W? But? Am I wrong? The hottest
Speaker 1: this division has ever been was when Britt Baker was
Speaker 1: the champion? Am I wrong about that? Was it hotter
Speaker 1: when thunder Rosa was the champion? Was it hotter now
Speaker 1: that Tony Storm is the champion? What was the hottest
Speaker 1: period of a W? It was when Britt Baker was
Speaker 1: the champion? Right then? People go, well, they never let
Speaker 1: anyone get over bro dude. Thunder Rosa beat her, and
Speaker 1: the idea was that she was going to be a
Speaker 1: huge star. She wasn't. Don't tell me they didn't try.
Speaker 1: We all watched the thunder Rosa rain. Okay, they did
Speaker 1: not go from thunder Rosa back to Britt Baker. In fact,
Speaker 1: I don't know what everyone's talking about, but you can
Speaker 1: go up stop me if I'm lying, Go up and
Speaker 1: look at Britt Baker's win lost record of late. She's
Speaker 1: been in there putting people over. Am I watching a
Speaker 1: different show than everybody else? She was? Granted, there weren't
Speaker 1: a lot of people that talked last night, but she
Speaker 1: was by far the best talker in that entire segment
Speaker 1: last night. And everyone's like, you know, what I heard
Speaker 1: today was that we just need something different. We need
Speaker 1: to turn her baby face and Jamie Hayter confused with
Speaker 1: her as a hell. I almost fell out of my chair.
Speaker 1: Have we forgotten Britt Baker's baby face? Run? You want
Speaker 1: to turn Britt Baker baby face? And you want Jamie Hayter,
Speaker 1: who last night the fans randomly he just started chanting
Speaker 1: her name at the top of her lungs. You want
Speaker 1: her to be the hell? Am I in an alternate universe? Here?
Speaker 1: Britt is a thousand times better as a hell, and
Speaker 1: Jamie is gonna be super over as a baby face.
Speaker 1: And I know that people think, well, you know they're
Speaker 1: back together again or whatever, like why are they aren't
Speaker 1: they gonna do it? Listen, First off, aw doesn't do
Speaker 1: anything quick. Obviously, Britt and Jamie are going to break up,
Speaker 1: and Jamie is gonna go baby face and she's gonna
Speaker 1: be a huge star as a baby face, at least
Speaker 1: as biggest star is U a w female can get
Speaker 1: at this point. And she's gonna feud with and she's
Speaker 1: gonna beat Britt Baker, Right, Am I wrong? I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know, but like, is that not obvious? That's
Speaker 1: the direction we're going here. Why hasn't it happened yet? Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know, but I do know
Speaker 1: two things, Okay. Number one, Number one, they take a
Speaker 1: long time to get to where they're going historically, Am
Speaker 1: I wrong? It's gonna be a while. They don't do
Speaker 1: anything quick. And the other thing I know, And I
Speaker 1: don't know if this is the reason, but based on history,
Speaker 1: this could be the reason. There have been many start
Speaker 1: and stop pushes that have resulted from something happening. Okay,
Speaker 1: whether that be Remember even um Alistair Black was talking
Speaker 1: about how you know, uh I was injured and that's
Speaker 1: why everything was put on hold with the House of
Speaker 1: Black for a while. But they don't talk about anybody
Speaker 1: being injured, so no fans knew that. They just thought, well,
Speaker 1: this thing starts and stops. No, no, no no, no, there's
Speaker 1: a very good chance or whatever is going on with
Speaker 1: Britt and uh and Jamie Hayter was also going to
Speaker 1: involve thunder Rosa, who one day showed up and said
Speaker 1: I'm hurt. I can't wrestle now. And now she's gone
Speaker 1: and nobody knows when she's going to be back. So
Speaker 1: there's a good chance. And the reason that this began
Speaker 1: and then stopped is because they're waiting for thunder Rosa,
Speaker 1: just like we put this six man title thing on
Speaker 1: hold for like a year and a half because we
Speaker 1: were waiting. And then you know, Kenny Omega went down
Speaker 1: and they literally waited until he came back, and then
Speaker 1: four weeks later we have six man champions and then
Speaker 1: we all know how that happened. But anyway, Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was this segment great. No, was it an absolute disaster
Speaker 1: that made this the worst dynamite of all time? No,
Speaker 1: And I don't know what's going on, Well, who cares
Speaker 1: or whatever? I've sent my piece. It ran for years. No,
Speaker 1: it was not the worst thing on the worst Dynamite
Speaker 1: ever that would be silly, but it was overbooked. You know,
Speaker 1: you go, well, why couldn't have been How could this
Speaker 1: have become a lumberjack match, because at the beginning of
Speaker 1: the show, you've had how many how many there were
Speaker 1: what four matches, five matches? How many segments did you
Speaker 1: have where you talked to somebody backstage or something was
Speaker 1: going on where at the beginning of the show, you
Speaker 1: couldn't have had Penelope Ford and Britt Baker and Rebel
Speaker 1: and Jamie all beat somebody down or attempt to beat
Speaker 1: down Tony Storm before her match against Serena Deeve and
Speaker 1: Sorea is there and they do something where she's got
Speaker 1: a reason to make it a lumberteck match and she's
Speaker 1: got a reason to introduce both the rosters. I'm not
Speaker 1: going to get on her about the fact that she flubbed.
Speaker 1: It happens to everybody, and it had to really suck
Speaker 1: to be out there because it was hard not to
Speaker 1: feel for because it went on painfully for so long.
Speaker 1: But the fact that that whole segment was set up
Speaker 1: to be that way and to be so whack and
Speaker 1: have her just walked by Britt on the way out
Speaker 1: and here we go with the match. You know, that's
Speaker 1: the Booker's fault. That's whoever put it put it together's fault.
Speaker 1: And that's also where two things can be true. As
Speaker 1: far as I'm not blaming Britt Baker for anything, but
Speaker 1: Britt Baker is the only person who's gotten over there
Speaker 1: as far as a women's start else period, there has
Speaker 1: been nobody else. Thunder Rosa did not get over and
Speaker 1: who knows what exactly all the reasons are behind that,
Speaker 1: whether she was hurt, whether there was this or that,
Speaker 1: who cares. You know, Jamie Hayter is going to because
Speaker 1: partially the association with Britt Baker, and that's not Baker's fault,
Speaker 1: but it's somebody's fault that we've gone on this long
Speaker 1: now and with the look and I understand Chris stat
Speaker 1: Lander's hurt, and that's look. I'm not discounting that at
Speaker 1: all because I think she was going to be a
Speaker 1: big piece of the puzzle. But there has been nobody else,
Speaker 1: and at some point there has got to be somebody else,
Speaker 1: no matter what the excuses are, you have got to
Speaker 1: find somebody else. And right now Tony Storm is spinning
Speaker 1: Ruby soho I know she's hurt, but she was just
Speaker 1: sitting there spinning. Athena came in, people thought she was
Speaker 1: going to be the answer. I never thought she was,
Speaker 1: but she's just kind of sitting there spinning. So yeah,
Speaker 1: you've got to figure out something because you have that,
Speaker 1: and then you have a really powerful jade that's a
Speaker 1: completely separate cannon worms that you gotta deal with. Back
Speaker 1: in them on with the full Dynamite Review, Observer Live.
Speaker 1: Back in the show, Bright newba is here, Wrestling Observer
Speaker 1: Live Mixumber Viva, also Wrestling Observer dot Com. I gotta
Speaker 1: say one other thing, not specifically about Brittain, but Britain,
Speaker 1: Jamie Hayter, this, this, and and many other things as well.
Speaker 1: I a thousand percent agree with people who say, sometimes
Speaker 1: the stuff goes on way too long. Sometimes you just
Speaker 1: gotta pull the trigger, even if it isn't when you
Speaker 1: were ready to do it. Sometimes, as the Great Buddy Wayne,
Speaker 1: the late Great Buddy Wayne used to say, when it's time.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you plan for when it's gonna be time. But
Speaker 1: sometimes no matter what your plan is, maybe it's too early,
Speaker 1: maybe it's too late. And I mean the most obvious
Speaker 1: one that just pops into my head every time? Is
Speaker 1: that Julia Hart turn Oh my god, Like it was
Speaker 1: time and they held it off and held it off
Speaker 1: and held it off and and finally they didn't. It
Speaker 1: was like, all right, let's move on now. Wasn't even like, hey,
Speaker 1: they missed the time. So yes that like people, what's
Speaker 1: the one thing you would fix about a w Well
Speaker 1: sometimes let's get to the point. Now it's less so now.
Speaker 1: But when Vince was in charge, like he created a
Speaker 1: generation of people that have absolutely zero patients whatsoever. It's
Speaker 1: like everything is paid off on the show because if not,
Speaker 1: if you don't pay it off on the show, he's
Speaker 1: gonna forget next week and is never gonna get paid off.
Speaker 1: So like you either had to paid off immediately. Now
Speaker 1: you know Hunters more. He's more of a long term guy.
Speaker 1: But like there's a happy medium. You know, we all
Speaker 1: want longer term storytelling. It doesn't mean we want a
Speaker 1: story the last five years. Okay, if it happens to
Speaker 1: go five years, that's fine, but like don't plan out
Speaker 1: five years because god knows. You know, someone's contract expires
Speaker 1: a leaver. You know it was time two years ago,
Speaker 1: but now you've pissed you've missed the Yes, I said
Speaker 1: that you've missed the peak, not pissed the meek. Hey,
Speaker 1: let's talk about this rampage or this dynamite show. Nopen
Speaker 1: up with the Jericho Appreciation Society coming out. No, Jake Hager,
Speaker 1: Luigi Primo is there. They're all in their outfits and whatever.
Speaker 1: And Jericho cuts a promo about Bandido being the Ring
Speaker 1: of Honor champion. He's the most honorable guy. And then
Speaker 1: we have Daniel Garcia is stepping up and Daniel Garcia
Speaker 1: is about to cut this promo. He's gonna give Jericho
Speaker 1: peace of his mind. And Jericho says, before you speak,
Speaker 1: think about what you're gonna say, because if you say
Speaker 1: the wrong thing, I'm gonna have to take you out.
Speaker 1: And now comes Daniel Bryan Bryan Danielson and he comes
Speaker 1: to the ring and he basically tells Garcia, listen, Jericho
Speaker 1: is not making choices for you. I'm not even making choices.
Speaker 1: You make your choice, you and go with those guys,
Speaker 1: or you can come to the Blackpool Combat Club. And
Speaker 1: everybody pops like, oh my god, he's got the invite
Speaker 1: and uh. And so it was kind of a little
Speaker 1: bit weird because Daniel Garcia was largely great, but he
Speaker 1: didn't really leave the Jericho Appreciation Society, but he did
Speaker 1: ask for a tag match. So it's going to be
Speaker 1: Daniel Garcian, Daniel Bryan, Brian Danielson again against Chris Jericho,
Speaker 1: and Uh, I think Sammy Gavarrow it's gonna be a
Speaker 1: tag match. And it may have been by design that
Speaker 1: he didn't make it clear that he was leaving. I guess,
Speaker 1: I guess we'll find out it is pro wrestling. But
Speaker 1: then uh, Daddy Magic stepped up and he challenged Danielson,
Speaker 1: and so the opener was in fact Brian Danielson versus
Speaker 1: Matt Minard and Danielson of course beat him with the
Speaker 1: LaBelle Lock, and I thought it was a good match.
Speaker 1: Some people, you know, the crowd, crowd wasn't hot this
Speaker 1: and that at and you know, the fact of the
Speaker 1: matter is this was you guys realized that Matt Manard
Speaker 1: tore his labor and did absolutely zero matches for like
Speaker 1: three months or something like that ever since whenever m
Speaker 1: Blood and Guts was and then uh, he came back
Speaker 1: for the one match last Friday or last week with
Speaker 1: um Hook and UH, and the the um the wabash
Speaker 1: cannonballs and uh was almost killed and then he was
Speaker 1: basically thrown into the ring Brian Danielson here, I thought
Speaker 1: he did a hell of a job all things considered.
Speaker 1: It was a good match, and Brian beat him, and
Speaker 1: now was at Then we had a mg F wheeler
Speaker 1: you to promo before you go on Daniel Garcia's faces
Speaker 1: as Brian Danielson is saying you can do anything you want,
Speaker 1: the faces he kind of subtly makes were excellent, which
Speaker 1: is why at the end, if you really put some
Speaker 1: logical thought behind it, you just go, why is he
Speaker 1: just punched Jericho in the face and leave like that's
Speaker 1: you know, he's almost stupid by the end of it,
Speaker 1: you know, with whatever Jericho is going to say. And
Speaker 1: I know they're dragging it out, but I'm kind of
Speaker 1: ready for this thing to to to get to kick in. Here. Well,
Speaker 1: we're gonna see what happens when they get to kick
Speaker 1: in next week. Mike Center VV now here's another one wheeler.
Speaker 1: You two comes out and m JF. You know, I
Speaker 1: don't want to be that guy. I don't want to
Speaker 1: be that guy. But when I was telling you guys
Speaker 1: about mjf end quote New York, and you guys were
Speaker 1: telling me that New York wasn't actually New York. I said, bro,
Speaker 1: if I'm wrong. If I'm wrong, I'll admit it wrong.
Speaker 1: But let's wait till they're out of New York, the
Speaker 1: state of New York, and we'll see what happens. Well,
Speaker 1: here they are out of the state of New York
Speaker 1: and Philadelphia. That's not New York. It means they hey
Speaker 1: anything from New York, including m J. What he got
Speaker 1: booed from start to finish part of that Jersey. Let's
Speaker 1: see what your excuses. Next week he came out in
Speaker 1: a buffalo bills and played the crowd. You got, Well, obviously,
Speaker 1: here's the It's just like I've been saying the whole time.
Speaker 1: He's gonna go some places and people are gonna throw
Speaker 1: babies and be cheered, and he is going to have
Speaker 1: to do what he can absolutely do you absolutely do,
Speaker 1: which is control of the crowd with psychology and get
Speaker 1: them to hate him the same way a Flair would
Speaker 1: have to do it in mid Atlantic when they would
Speaker 1: cheer him and he'd go back and he'd want them
Speaker 1: to boo him. That's just gonna be the way it is.
Speaker 1: Some crowds are gonna take to it faster than others.
Speaker 1: But I guarantee you M JF goes walking into oh,
Speaker 1: I don't know, Atlanta right now doing the same thing,
Speaker 1: he's gonna get budded out of building the same way exactly.
Speaker 1: That's my point. That's my point. What's your point? My
Speaker 1: point is your point was a long islander the said,
Speaker 1: this guy is never gonna get he's never gonna get
Speaker 1: booed again. He's gonna get cheered everywhere. He's gonna get cheered.
Speaker 1: He I said, no, he's gonna get out of New
Speaker 1: York and he's gonna be booed everywhere, and he's gonna
Speaker 1: be booed everywhere. Well, we'll find out. But obviously, obviously
Speaker 1: he was going against the hometown guy. Obviously he was
Speaker 1: trying to that's the point. He's trying to get booed.
Speaker 1: And it worked here. Unlike anywhere in New York. Anywhere
Speaker 1: in the state of New York it didn't work, but
Speaker 1: it worked here. I don't care how much Griselda has
Speaker 1: brought the sound back in the Feeling Back, Buffalo was
Speaker 1: not one of the five boroughs as you tried to claim.
Speaker 1: Dagan says he'll bet an entire year subscription to my
Speaker 1: super followers that MJF will be cheered again when he
Speaker 1: is not in New York. Alright, Dagan, I'll take that bet.
Speaker 1: What is the standard retail value on that? Here's gonna
Speaker 1: to do math anyway. So wheel Or you came out
Speaker 1: and I thought, and maybe I'm in the minority. I thought, Wheeler,
Speaker 1: you you did a great job on this show. I
Speaker 1: thought he was great on the show. And uh, and
Speaker 1: they're gonna have a match next week. They had a
Speaker 1: brawl later on set it up. The fans were super
Speaker 1: into Wheeler, and I thought this all worked out great.
Speaker 1: And I will take that bet about MGF being booed
Speaker 1: in Atlanta the cat Kansas City. I thought, you're gonna
Speaker 1: go through all your wherever you live, your area codes
Speaker 1: from that ludicrous song. But you know, uh, wheel Or,
Speaker 1: you'd thrown into the deep end of the pool. It's
Speaker 1: hard to look good and sound good against m j F.
Speaker 1: If he wanted to verbally advice rate Youda, he absolutely could.
Speaker 1: In fact, he kind of did last week and they
Speaker 1: played on that this week. But he's holding up to
Speaker 1: his end of the deal, I think right now. And
Speaker 1: that's what you want from a guy who's either going
Speaker 1: to be an important piece of R O H and
Speaker 1: or a e W. Obviously, moving forward, I did not
Speaker 1: put Buffalo in New York City, you geek. I put Buffalo,
Speaker 1: New York. You know, you know, you know, acted like
Speaker 1: state in New York, Buffalo, New York. That's why they
Speaker 1: called Buffalo New York, Buffalo New York because it's in
Speaker 1: New York. I didn't say it was in New York City.
Speaker 1: San Francisco in Los Angeles. San Francisco's in California's Angels
Speaker 1: is in California. Try to compare. Ready is in I
Speaker 1: don't know where Ready is, but I think it's kills
Speaker 1: for people in the New York. People don't like you
Speaker 1: for it. Oh Noxley really faced Juice Robinson and he
Speaker 1: defeated him and it was a it was a good match.
Speaker 1: Old rock Hard in there highlighted this match was John
Speaker 1: Moxley said he's gonna play Brian Danielson and dude, he
Speaker 1: threw a kick and I think he killed Juice Robinson.
Speaker 1: I don't even know how they got that guy. Back
Speaker 1: to life to finish this match, Hi howled, So anyway,
Speaker 1: you beat him and then, uh, it was a good match.
Speaker 1: It was a good match out And I'm not a
Speaker 1: fan of stiff work, but every now and I see
Speaker 1: something stiff and I laugh because I'm a bad person.
Speaker 1: Sometimes no, because you kind of know the people and
Speaker 1: you can imagine what the conversation is taking place, either
Speaker 1: that let up to it in the moment or taking
Speaker 1: place after it. Well, you know, I know, I didn't
Speaker 1: really feel bad for Juice because he's rock hard. We
Speaker 1: had the Sorias segment which we talked about that was
Speaker 1: I hate this thing here, something's always gotta go wrong.
Speaker 1: Where was I? We had a Soriace thing we talked
Speaker 1: about anyway, So I guess it doesn't matter. He killed
Speaker 1: everything there, didn't it? Well, I push a button. Then
Speaker 1: the whole thing just gets all messed up and we
Speaker 1: had Serena deep and Tony Storm. Well, that's the sin
Speaker 1: of what happened, is this match gets forgotten about because
Speaker 1: of that segment of talk. I didn't forget about it.
Speaker 1: It was a hell of a match, and I it
Speaker 1: really Tony Storm is incredibly talented and so Serena deep
Speaker 1: and hopefully they can get this women's division going because
Speaker 1: they were great. Man. They they had a match and
Speaker 1: they were working hard and nobody cared. Why is Dave
Speaker 1: on the screen And then all of a sudden got
Speaker 1: a middle rope pile driver for the pin and man
Speaker 1: this place, all of a sudden, they just it's like
Speaker 1: a w w E crowd. All of a sudden, they
Speaker 1: just went nuts and they stand up and they're giving
Speaker 1: them a standing ovation. And it worked out. That part
Speaker 1: worked out great. But you know, there was a promo
Speaker 1: that wasn't very good. Worst rim whatever. Uh, it's some
Speaker 1: more segments backstage, Ricky Starks squashed Eli Issom. It's gotta win.
Speaker 1: And then next week's the anniversary show. It is MGF
Speaker 1: versus Wheeler Utah National Scissoring Day with the Acclaimed and
Speaker 1: Billy Gunn. And by the way, I hate to say this,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna gonna make people mad, but at least
Speaker 1: this time I won't be making someone in w w
Speaker 1: E mad pretty deadly with scissoring years ago. It's true
Speaker 1: mg F and Wheeler you to National Scissoring Day. Luca
Speaker 1: Source will be in action, Darby Ellen will face Jay
Speaker 1: Lethal and Bryan Danielson and Daniel Garcia will face Jericho
Speaker 1: and Sammy Guvara. This led to Gal darn Dang at
Speaker 1: the main event, Chris Jericho and Bandido for the Ring
Speaker 1: of Honor World title. Have to simp for Chris Jericho
Speaker 1: now because I will this bro, Mike and listen. I
Speaker 1: ain't taken nothing away from Bandido. This was an absolute
Speaker 1: star making performance from Bandido. The two of these guys
Speaker 1: single handedly even though there was two of them, single
Speaker 1: handedly revitalized. They resurrected r O H rose from the
Speaker 1: grave with this main event here on dynamite. Jericho's in
Speaker 1: there and he took everything. He was upside down for
Speaker 1: fifty seven seconds when Bandido did a vertical suplex. He's
Speaker 1: taken a hurricane run is off the apron, he took
Speaker 1: the moonsalt s os lamb off the top rope. This
Speaker 1: guy has taken everything from Bandido. Bandido is just on fire.
Speaker 1: This These fans are there on their feet, they're giving
Speaker 1: him a standing ovation. And finally Chris Jericho covers his
Speaker 1: eyes with his own mask, goes for the walls, gets cradled.
Speaker 1: The guys still can't see he puts them in the walls.
Speaker 1: Van Dido's like fighting. He can't see, so he doesn't
Speaker 1: know where the ropes are, so he's lost all hope.
Speaker 1: He taps out and as great as the match was,
Speaker 1: as great as this match was, dude, I thought the
Speaker 1: post match was better and I'll tell you why after
Speaker 1: the break. All have more to say tonight on the
Speaker 1: Brian of Any Show video do f W online dot
Speaker 1: com at nine Pacific midnight Eastern Wrestling Observer dot Com
Speaker 1: for audio subscribers. But this match ends and Jericho calls
Speaker 1: Bobby Cruise into the ring to do the announcement, and
Speaker 1: then he grabs the mic and he he says, you
Speaker 1: know what, talks about how he's beaten Bandido, and he
Speaker 1: says that he's the greatest Ring of Honor champion of
Speaker 1: all time, and he essentially says that he is going
Speaker 1: to go on a rampage and beat every former Ring
Speaker 1: of Honor champion. He challenges Brian Danielson to a match
Speaker 1: here coming up in a couple of weeks, and then
Speaker 1: he says, I will desecrate the legacy of Ring of Honor.
Speaker 1: I will destroy every former Ring of Honor champion. Commentator
Speaker 1: referee and ring announcer, and he boots Bobby Cruz and
Speaker 1: he gives him that back elbow. And I just watched
Speaker 1: the last few seconds of the show and I thought, Dude,
Speaker 1: this is the greatest, easiest storyline. Chris Jericho, the dishonorable
Speaker 1: Ring of Honor, who doesn't care one bit about honor.
Speaker 1: He just wants to bring dishonor to Ring of Honor.
Speaker 1: He's gonna desecrate the title and beat all the former champions.
Speaker 1: And I was like, I can't believe it. This guy.
Speaker 1: I am now fully invested in the Ring of Honor
Speaker 1: Championship because of this angle and this match with Bandido
Speaker 1: and man I got more tonight, I got a lot more.
Speaker 1: I was in awe, you better not turn out to
Speaker 1: be Vince with the do rag on an e c W.
Speaker 1: It's a good show, so is Dynamite. Now. I'll talk
Speaker 1: more about it tonight with Vinnie right of any show
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