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Speaker 1: What's up, guys, you're my favorite here. Just about the disinterview.

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Speaker 1: I've done interviews with those guys.

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Speaker 2: Playing times in the past and always a good time.

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Speaker 2: You have a weird drinks, I's got.

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Speaker 3: Weird drink and I've got an unhoping body.

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Speaker 2: This is what it looks like.

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Speaker 2: Care your talk shop and have a good time Service Diaries.

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Speaker 4: Let's go, baby.

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Speaker 5: Well, there are three dads in this room. Two of

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Speaker 5: them are washed and one of them is an m

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Speaker 5: M A legend. Can you figure out which ones which?

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Speaker 5: That's Brian Campbell, Luke Thomas and this welcome to Room

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Speaker 5: Service Diaries is your right favorite, your favorite everybody around

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Speaker 5: of the wall.

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Speaker 2: Let's there for let's thanks for inviting me to your room.

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Speaker 6: Yes, yes, welcome to our week class things.

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Speaker 1: Least there's one girl in here. You guys are pretty

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Speaker 1: standard for you guys. You got three, four, five, six,

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Speaker 1: seven guys.

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Speaker 2: One girl a big deal.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 7: We had my Okisa on this couch and you know

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Speaker 7: he might be a great fighter, but he's a dirt

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Speaker 7: hole proper like one of us.

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Speaker 3: We classed it up with mister.

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Speaker 5: Fab right, good man, dude, you stay busy your gifts

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Speaker 5: from one lane to the next, but it's just a switch.

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Speaker 4: It never seems to slow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm kind of wired like that. I feel like

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Speaker 1: And I'm I get antsy if I don't have enough

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Speaker 1: going on. And the kids, dude.

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Speaker 3: Congratulate you have you have. I mean, you put them

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Speaker 4: A beautiful, beautiful family. Man.

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Speaker 1: It's it's been a lot of fun. Man, those kids

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Speaker 1: are the best. So room is now twenty little over

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Speaker 1: twenty months and Cali's you know, three years in a

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Speaker 7: And yeah, but you were telling Luke in the show

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Speaker 7: and this will break his heart again that since you've

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Speaker 7: had became a dad your wife.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 4: By the way, I just want to put it out

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Speaker 4: before you finished. He's the only dad I've.

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Speaker 7: Ever heard this from. I believe it's better sleep now.

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Speaker 7: I mean, Luke can't keep his daughter out of his room.

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Speaker 4: You know some people have given.

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Speaker 3: Tips like maybe just put the foot down.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, these people can shut the fuck up.

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Speaker 5: We're talking about we put our daughter down to the

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Speaker 5: so she does the whole veloscal raptor Jurassic Park bit.

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Speaker 5: it's kung fu fighting.

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Speaker 1: I Actually they they're still co sleeping for the most part,

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Speaker 2: But I'm fine with it, and so, uh that's what helped.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm saying I get more sleep now than

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Speaker 2: I'll pass out.

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Speaker 1: It's terrible for my teeth to that, Like I said,

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Speaker 1: And I I told my dentist, I'm like, dude, we

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Speaker 7: Time has changed your ayah, but you're timeless, dude, and

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Speaker 6: You're still that dude, man.

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Speaker 7: I mean, you're not far removed from still being a

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Speaker 3: You still have that youthful spirit.

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Speaker 7: I mean you there's a cheat code into your genetics.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I think it's for my parents. My dad is

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Speaker 7: Well look, well look, part of my Time's change joke

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Speaker 3: Four in July.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so I'm a cold piece of shit.

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Speaker 7: So I'm thinking we just graduate to the California no

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Speaker 7: harm to follow. Team Alpha make Male great gym. But

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Speaker 1: but uh, it's Team Alpha MMA.

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Speaker 1: We have Alpha males, you have al females, we have

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Speaker 6: It is changing with the times, but still the same.

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Speaker 1: From from a monetary standpoint, I see both sides of it.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad.

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Speaker 4: No regrets, No regrets.

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Speaker 6: We call a lot of people a legend, and sometimes

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Speaker 7: We just heard one of our guys in the background go,

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Speaker 7: Many people still say that today. So like, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I mean I hear that a lot, especially for like

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I wanted to jump in and I lose this

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Speaker 6: The face of the WEC, Like was it hard not

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Speaker 7: Living the rockstar lifestyle and you know, drinking your own

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Speaker 2: So he's like, I'd be like, see him in the

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Speaker 2: It is now or the the you know, the team

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Speaker 7: Going back to WEC for a second, who's the Mount

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Speaker 7: You know, whether it's the personality or the performance in

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Speaker 3: You're up there, dude, you're up there.

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Speaker 2: You're oka.

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Speaker 1: Probably Anthony Pettis, Cowboy Seroni and Jose Aldo.

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Speaker 4: That's there's a bull names. So here's the thing that's

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Speaker 1: Well, the one thing is, I mean, Pulver needs to

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Speaker 1: I can't remember who who all he beat, but he

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Speaker 4: Isn't it amazing he is still going, I know, cowboys

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Speaker 2: I love that guy. I always said I thought he

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Speaker 1: Quickly, but for twelve years he was undefeated in that

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Speaker 7: You know, how hard is it to fight him due

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Speaker 2: So I was like, what the fuck I wasn't I

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Speaker 5: It's funny because you know, we're at the time we're

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Speaker 5: so there's this debate about like, oh, is is Volkanovsky

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, even the fact that Volcanowski and Max,

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Speaker 4: Now people don't know how good he was.

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Speaker 1: He if if Mike Brown is a little more outspoken,

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Speaker 1: But Alda took him out like that, you know, and

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Speaker 2: Took out a lot of guys like that. Was that

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Speaker 3: That fight, he fucking steam. The fight was great.

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Speaker 1: But the first one, the first one, yeah, and Mendes

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Speaker 5: Nevertheless, though, I want to talk a little bit more

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Speaker 5: managing Devison FIGUREDO. Yeah, that's correct, right, Yeah, how did

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Speaker 4: So?

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Speaker 1: I don't know how many people know my story and whatnot,

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Speaker 1: partners Jeff Meyer and Mike Roberts decided to wrap it

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Speaker 1: up around the time they took sponsorships out of the

445
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Speaker 1: UFC and it was just not fun for them anymore.

446
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Speaker 1: And at that time, I still had a need for

447
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Speaker 1: functioning management partners, and and I stayed helping guys like

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Speaker 1: Josh Emmett out and a few picked, hand picked people

449
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Speaker 1: that that were on our teams, so that I was

450
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Speaker 1: still helping out with on the management side. But I

451
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Speaker 1: was the founder of that company. Before anyone knew who

452
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Speaker 1: I was. I started managing guys back with uh, you know, Scott,

453
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Speaker 1: Scott Smith and James Irvin back in the UFC. James

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Speaker 1: Irvin is the man. He works for me at UFC gym,

455
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Speaker 1: runs both my gyms.

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Speaker 4: He's he's he's the guy.

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Speaker 3: Give him respect to this.

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Speaker 4: He's flying the knockout of Terry Martin.

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Speaker 2: Still, I've got that picture up in our our UFC.

460
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Speaker 1: Jim Rockland James Irvin like understated guy, does does mits

461
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Speaker 1: all day, runs a whole crew of people that that

462
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Speaker 1: he oversees and and he's a killer.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, so you know, I was, I was doing

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Speaker 2: that management for.

465
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Speaker 1: A lot of years, and once that died out, I

466
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Speaker 1: I really needed help, and so I've been doing a

467
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Speaker 1: bunch of different things, and I met up with.

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Speaker 2: The Vayner group, you know, a j Inner check and

469
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Speaker 2: UH and Gary V.

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Speaker 1: Everybody knows Gary V and they're such a professional team.

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Speaker 1: Lloyd Pearson is is running the UH, the m M

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Speaker 1: a segment of that. He he has Josh Emmett and

473
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Speaker 1: he has Uh Songy Dong and myself and and so

474
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Speaker 1: I work with them as a team and figure figure

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Speaker 1: erdo is Uh is a guy that's trained with us

476
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Speaker 1: in the past. Because Cody was dropping a one twenty five,

477
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Speaker 1: it was kind of an awkward time to have him

478
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Speaker 1: come back UH because he'd been making you know, short

479
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Speaker 1: stints down to train with us, and we always had

480
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Speaker 1: a great relationship, and so when he said he needed help,

481
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Speaker 1: and and my my my jiu jitsu instructor and longtime

482
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Speaker 1: coach and also someone that helps manage the Brazilian side

483
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Speaker 1: of our team. Uh, Fabio Prato said he wanted to

484
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Speaker 1: talk to me. I said, yeah, absolutely, and we had

485
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Speaker 1: a great talk. And I think he's got a lot

486
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Speaker 1: of potential and and and could do some big things

487
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Speaker 1: and and so I'm happy to have me as as

488
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Speaker 1: part of the team that's going to help out a

489
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Speaker 1: world champion, you know, get his One.

490
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Speaker 5: Of the things that was brought up to my attention,

491
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Speaker 5: and at least in reports in the media and against

492
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Speaker 5: those for what they were worth, was that he had

493
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Speaker 5: some issues with he wasn't getting paid enough. And I

494
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Speaker 5: saw some of the payoffs that he got and they

495
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Speaker 5: were surprisingly poultry. Now that you're on the management side,

496
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Speaker 5: having already been on the fighting side, I'm gonna ask

497
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Speaker 5: this sort of broadly, not even so much about Denison

498
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Speaker 5: per se, what is the solution to increasing fighter pay?

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Speaker 3: You know it's not crypto.

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Speaker 1: Well, first off, the pay has gone up tremendously since

501
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Speaker 1: back in the day, as you know, but we need leverage,

502
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Speaker 1: I think with more legitimate shows coming up with with

503
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Speaker 1: more options, even the fact that like Habib's got his

504
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Speaker 1: Eagle promotion, he's actually paying guys decent. And then you've

505
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Speaker 1: got the PFL, which is kind of a partner.

506
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Speaker 2: With the UFC.

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Speaker 1: It seems like with on the ESPN side, we've got

508
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Speaker 1: but they're fighting for big dollars. You've got one FC,

509
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Speaker 1: you've got Bellator. But I think more than that, it's

510
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Speaker 1: it's got to be intelligence on the fighters side, because

511
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Speaker 1: you can be making a little bit of money and

512
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Speaker 1: not go over your skis on on on, you know

513
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Speaker 1: how you're spending your money. When you have to fight

514
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Speaker 1: because you're broke, that's when you're fucked, right. And so

515
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Speaker 1: when when we get these fighters to understand how to

516
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Speaker 1: not be broke, then we can really have the leverage

517
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Speaker 1: on their side because then they.

518
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Speaker 2: Don't have to fight as much. And I think you'd.

519
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Speaker 4: Be like saying no to potential offers like oh no,

520
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Speaker 4: I mean.

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Speaker 7: Is a UFC training at the PI and this in

522
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Speaker 7: this category that that could that needs to happen to

523
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Speaker 7: help this.

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Speaker 1: I mean it would be nice. I I I wouldn't

525
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Speaker 1: think that. I mean the UFC is all about educating

526
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Speaker 1: their guys. I think it's generational unfortunately, and you can

527
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Speaker 1: teach people like for my team, you talk to Chad Mendez,

528
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Speaker 1: you talk to Cody probably even TJ.

529
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Speaker 2: Uh, and and the list goes on.

530
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Speaker 1: Josh Emmett like, we've discussed this kind of thing as

531
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Speaker 1: a team for a lot of years, and that's part

532
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Speaker 1: of what's made us unique. You know, guys have jo

533
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Speaker 1: Justin beIN Avidez has a little rural real estate portfolio,

534
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Speaker 1: and and you know.

535
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Speaker 4: Like I know, Chad has the fins and feathers.

536
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Speaker 1: Fins and feathers, gills and thrills, clay weed to like

537
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Speaker 1: Josh Emmett's got a bunch of different things and and

538
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Speaker 1: and and understands.

539
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Speaker 2: How to you know, how to not go broke.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think I think there's an education process

541
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Speaker 1: and that will help. The second thing is people knowing

542
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Speaker 1: their worth. And I think like like for uh, Figgy,

543
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Speaker 1: for example, he's out in the jungle in Brazil, people

544
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Speaker 1: maybe just surrounding him or helping him.

545
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Speaker 2: We're probably just not thinking big enough. That sounds like

546
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Speaker 2: a lot of money to them.

547
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Speaker 1: Whatever he was getting, Oh my gosh, it's more money

548
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Speaker 1: than he's ever seen. But in the big scheme of things,

549
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Speaker 1: like could he live in la for for six months

550
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Speaker 1: of that money?

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Speaker 3: I don't think you live in l A for a long

552
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Speaker 3: weekend with.

553
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Speaker 2: That yeah, Dana couldn't.

554
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Speaker 7: He's like, by the way, you know this already figurators

555
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Speaker 7: of savage what he did, and you know about being

556
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Speaker 7: staying relevant at an advanced age when he did at

557
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Speaker 7: thirty four and a trilogy against a guy who just

558
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Speaker 7: finished him to win back the championship. I don't think

559
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Speaker 7: that people look at that close enough to see in

560
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Speaker 7: a lower weight class that's that's not normal to see that.

561
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that guy is not normal though, if

562
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Speaker 1: you if you touch him, he's he feels like steel.

563
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Speaker 4: Dude, there's wig ins.

564
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Speaker 5: I'm like, there's there's like an unhealthy lack of fat,

565
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Speaker 5: you know what I mean, Like, you can't believe someone

566
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Speaker 5: could look like that.

567
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Speaker 1: That's the ie man. We're bringing it to America. Klisi

568
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Speaker 1: is coming to you.

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Speaker 5: Let me circle back, though, So two of the major

570
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Speaker 5: things that get talked about MMA media and among fans

571
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Speaker 5: as well and fighters too, is there's two major proposed

572
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Speaker 5: solutions to not just fight er pay, but let's speak

573
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Speaker 5: to the larger leverage, the lack of power balance between

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Speaker 5: or the dollars I should say, between let's say management

575
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Speaker 5: and talent. One would be an MMA union, and there's

576
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Speaker 5: been many attempts, they've all failed dramatically, and then the

577
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Speaker 5: second one would be extending the Muhammad Ali boxing reformat

578
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Speaker 5: to MMA. Let's start with the union in theory, because

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Speaker 5: practice is a different matter in theory.

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Speaker 4: Are you in favor of a union?

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Speaker 1: I've thought about this a lot, like which route I

582
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Speaker 1: would like to go? I mean, I do like like

583
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Speaker 1: an entertainment side, like the union's help out a lot.

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Speaker 1: Is also can get really weird and it makes things

585
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Speaker 1: more even. I don't know if it if it makes

586
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Speaker 1: for the same ability to have the superstar.

587
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Speaker 2: Probably does.

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Speaker 1: I would think, yeah, that would be That would be

589
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Speaker 1: good if it was done wisely, and people have tried

590
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Speaker 1: and have.

591
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Speaker 2: Been trying for a long time.

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Speaker 1: A strong leader, though, is a yeah, you do need

593
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Speaker 1: a strong leader, but you need a strong leader, and

594
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Speaker 1: then you need billionaires behind the strong leader because money

595
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Speaker 1: wins out on these big confrontations. And the rare thing

596
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Speaker 1: with with the UFC is you had guys that love, love,

597
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Speaker 1: love the sport, the Forteita brothers and Dana White who

598
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Speaker 1: are passionate about the sport and that's all they're into,

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Speaker 1: and then they had the resources. You can maybe match

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Speaker 1: the resources, but you're not gonna match the passion of

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Speaker 1: those guys like they built this thing. That's the hard

602
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Speaker 1: part there. On the Muhammad Ali Act, that would be

603
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Speaker 1: a huge key, but it only becomes a big key

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Speaker 1: once the UFC has done their job because we're the

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Speaker 1: big stars in any other organization, right, there aren't any

606
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Speaker 1: big stars in any other I mean you could say

607
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Speaker 1: there are, but there aren't.

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Speaker 5: But the idea would be, like, this is how we

609
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Speaker 5: got to the full four belt era. It's every time

610
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Speaker 5: someone who was legitimized fought someone who had the belt

611
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Speaker 5: that wasn't that then legitimized it. And so the way

612
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Speaker 5: it would be to open it up and then that

613
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Speaker 5: cross legitimization then adds more stars.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's the key is when we get

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Speaker 1: that that Muhammad Ali Act, that would be the best thing.

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Speaker 1: But and so those that don't know the Mohammad ALILAC

617
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Speaker 1: basically just puts every match up for bid. So John

618
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Speaker 1: Jones and DC are going to fight again, Then that

619
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Speaker 1: would go to bid to every promoter, and every promoter

620
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Speaker 1: would have an opportunity to be the host of that,

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Speaker 1: and when in turn to get the fighters to come

622
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Speaker 1: with them, they're going to have to give more to

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Speaker 1: the fighter and less to them, and that's the way

624
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Speaker 1: boxing is. So boxing gets the bid on these fights

625
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Speaker 1: and they go, okay, you.

626
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Speaker 4: Can still be tied to a promoter, though, it would

627
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Speaker 4: just be much shorter contracts. Right. That's the other part too,

628
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Speaker 4: You could just have The.

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Speaker 7: Whole point is you can get an automatic negotiation, yes, and

630
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Speaker 7: if you can't negotiate, you go to a bid.

631
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Speaker 2: You go to a bid. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, so it changes the dynamic and that would

633
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Speaker 1: be great. And there's powers fighting that, and there's powers

634
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Speaker 1: fighting for it. Who has more money and more passion.

635
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Speaker 1: That's who's winning right now.

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Speaker 5: So what is it in terms of being on the

637
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Speaker 5: management side when you think about let's sa figure itator

638
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Speaker 5: And I don't expect you to give away his contract details,

639
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 5: but I'm just thinking strategically when you think about, okay,

640
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Speaker 5: how do I get this guy more money? From the

641
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Speaker 5: management perspective, what is your major task?

642
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 4: What do you have to do?

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Speaker 1: I think first you just have a real conversation with

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Speaker 1: with the UFC brass. I mean they have to know

645
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 1: what standard and a guy's fought four fights and for

646
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 1: titles and he's getting paid this. I mean, it's not

647
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 1: like a secret that what's going on, and they're I

648
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 1: don't know if his manager in the past has ever

649
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Speaker 1: been able to sit and talk to Dana or talk

650
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 1: to Hunter or or even Mick and and say, guys, this.

651
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Speaker 2: Is not fair. I would start with that because I've

652
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 2: got a good relationship.

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Speaker 1: There, you know, with with Lloyd. He he has a

654
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: pretty good roster of people that he's drawing from. It

655
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: has worked with throughout the years where there's been big

656
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: contracts done, so you've seen the backside of things, and

657
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: and the Vayner group behind it, they're definitely thinking big.

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00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: It's not like, hey, our world champion is getting you know,

660
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Speaker 1: one hundred grand.

661
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 2: It's like, okay, that's weird. That's weird.

662
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Speaker 1: Really is It's super strange, and I think the UFC

663
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 1: knows that. And so we'll just have a conversation to start.

664
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Speaker 1: This is all brand new. Figure's on his way here

665
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: from Brazil right now, you know, sunglasses and belt one

666
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 1: probably you know, living it up on the plane right here.

667
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: But you know, I think it starts with a real

668
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 1: conversation of guys, it's not fair, and go from there.

669
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 7: You seem to be doing this from a good place

670
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 7: to help the sport. And I really respect that because

671
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 7: you're using your brand and your leverage to give back.

672
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 3: But you're also able to now be a manager or whatever.

673
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 3: So do you get as.

674
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 7: Motivated to sit across the negotiation table from Dana or

675
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 7: whatever thing you're doing on the business side where it

676
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 7: is thinking on your feet like in the cage? Do

677
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 7: you sort of have you just kind of graduated competition

678
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 7: wise from fighting to now business in that regard.

679
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: I do not want to be the guy negotiating with Dana,

680
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: and I won't be. I'll be the guy that starts

681
00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 1: a conversation and helps set up a meeting and I'll

682
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 1: be there, but I'm I'm not the key negotiator.

683
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 2: I have.

684
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 1: You know a management company that I'm a part of

685
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 1: that does that.

686
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 6: But do you get amped up for that side of it?

687
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 3: Is really what I'm saying and playing.

688
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 2: I get amped up for business in general. I'm I'm

689
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 2: an entrepreneur.

690
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 1: I'm part of a group called EO Entrepreneurs Organization. We

691
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: have mastermind groups that we meet months once a month,

692
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 1: and I'm learning all the time. I love it and

693
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 1: I've got a lot of things that I'm working on,

694
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 1: and and.

695
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 2: Business is hard.

696
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 1: Business is like the fight game, it really is, and

697
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 1: it's not easy. Everybody thinks it's you know, I've had

698
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 1: I think sixteen gyms spur off of my gym and

699
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 1: Sacramento either members, former employees, former teammates, and it's just

700
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 1: that's that's that's the fight game, and the business game

701
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: is like you're in You're in constant battles.

702
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 2: And so.

703
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 1: For me, I feel like I really enjoy that process

704
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 1: negotiating per se. From a management standpoint, I'm gonna stay

705
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: in my lane on the management side, Lloyd Pearson, aj

706
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: Aj Vannerchek and and and.

707
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 2: Gary Ve those guys, we'll be helping with your guy

708
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 2: that knows.

709
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 3: A guy you're you're a facilitator.

710
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 2: You make it out.

711
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 5: In terms of boxing boxes in a different model, they

712
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 5: have different regulations, there's different situations. How would you rate

713
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 5: the effectiveness of current at scale MMA management?

714
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 4: Like, do MMA.

715
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 5: Managers in general reasonably actually increase the person amounts that

716
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 5: these guys get? Like the thing, there's actually a question

717
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 5: to be asked about that.

718
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you it varies like far and wide,

719
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna. Like, there are some managers that are

720
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: basically just working for the UFC, Like you know, if

721
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: you look at Contender series, and one manager has forty

722
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: fighters on the Contender series, you know, and and his

723
00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: highest paid guy is pretty low.

724
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 2: He's basically is bringing in mid level talent.

725
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: And then there's guys that actually have to go and

726
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: have hard conversations and with the UFC and and have

727
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: to you know, fight over money. And then there's guys

728
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 1: that are just happy to get any kind of money,

729
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 1: like probably some of the guys that that aren't used

730
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: to business and haven't seen you know, big paychecks and

731
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: they're like, oh man, that's a lot of money.

732
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 2: So it's far and wide.

733
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: Some people got their uncles managing them, their brothers, their girlfriends.

734
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 5: There's no licensing, like to be the NFL agent or manatry,

735
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 5: you actually have to get license to do it.

736
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 2: We had license with MMA Inc.

737
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 1: And And we we went the right way. But yeah,

738
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 1: most people are not doing it correctly. You have to

739
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: have insurance, you have to have all that kind of stuff.

740
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: Most people are not doing it correctly. And and so

741
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:51,719
Speaker 1: there's guys that and you know, it is relationships. So

742
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 1: then there's people that are scared of ruining their relationship

743
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: to get their new fighter in versus going to bat

744
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: for the fighter that needs to get their money now.

745
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: And it's a hard balance, i'd imagine for for some

746
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: of these guys who their bread and brother is just

747
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: bringing in as much talent as possible versus fighting for

748
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: the for the mighty dollar.

749
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 2: And you know you need both.

750
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 5: So what's like your management goal, Like what do you

751
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 5: feel like you want to get out of this experience.

752
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 5: Let's say if I talk to you in five years,

753
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 5: what would be an ideal five year scenario for you?

754
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 1: You know, I would like my guys to be first off,

755
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: educated about taxes.

756
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 2: About uh, you know, being smart with your money.

757
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: About their value of what they're actually worth, have an

758
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: idea of what is the current market value.

759
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 2: And then I want to make sure my guys are

760
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 2: getting getting the most, getting.

761
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 1: The best in terms of like everythings or whatever pursues

762
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: outside opportunities their own. Some people have creative juices, like

763
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: like an Andre Feey for example, as a guy that

764
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,479
Speaker 1: has a super creative knack and so he's got all

765
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 1: these things, is that that he wants to do and

766
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: you know, he's.

767
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 2: Got his clothing, he got music, he's got acting.

768
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 1: And I'm waiting to make that transition. Then there's other

769
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 1: guys like Mike Brown, for example, who knows the sport,

770
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 1: keeps himself, isn't an outspoken guy, and now he's you know,

771
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: Coach of the Year, right.

772
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 2: Those are two various things.

773
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 1: Like Peelly will probably have an entertainment in the limelight

774
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: type of pathway, and Mike Brown already has a behind

775
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: the scenes pathway.

776
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 7: I want to talk about your one of your projects

777
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 7: you have invested in that Andre Touchypheley did a great

778
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,760
Speaker 7: job acting in It was twenty twenties.

779
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 6: Green Rush, which I'm not doing a bit here.

780
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 7: You can find it. I think it's streaming right now

781
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 7: on a few different sites. But it's a weed thriller.

782
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 7: It's violent as it's a great watch. But when the

783
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 7: movie opens, this motherfucker's voice is like, yes, laterst trends

784
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 7: in California, wheatfields are growing. How does that end up

785
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 7: happening that this guy's in the movie, that you financed

786
00:34:58,840 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 7: that move?

787
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: So I have a production company we do, uh, We've

788
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:07,280
Speaker 1: got a bunch of stuff we're working on. But Jared Rocksburg.

789
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: I met him, he's my partner. I met him on

790
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 1: the Ultimate Fighter set, you know, over a decade ago.

791
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 1: And we just have a lot of ties in on

792
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 1: the M M A space And and then we had

793
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: the writer, uh, one of the writers was also the

794
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,919
Speaker 1: main character tell for the bad guy.

795
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 3: He was awesome.

796
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 2: We had a bunch of the people involved were helping

797
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:33,959
Speaker 2: on the set.

798
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 6: We we we I know.

799
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: I did not pay him in weed, you know, but uh,

800
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: you know, we shot the whole thing on one one

801
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,399
Speaker 1: place and it was the movie was in a one

802
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: day setting, so it was from dust to don so

803
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 1: that was a little bit easier, and uh, we just

804
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 1: pulled our resources people with talent. This guy's got a voice.

805
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:55,720
Speaker 1: It was face for radio.

806
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 3: They say, that's right, it was.

807
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 4: It was your I think it's a mutual acquintance of

808
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:02,240
Speaker 4: ours friend Rick Lee.

809
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

810
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 4: He hit me up.

811
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 5: He was like can you do this? And I was like, yeah, sure,

812
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 5: anything of it. And then the trailer came out.

813
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 4: I go.

814
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 5: People started hitting me up on social and I was like,

815
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 5: what the fun I thought he was just using it,

816
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 5: like because you know how it goes. People have you

817
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 5: record stuff and maybe it makes it and maybe it doesn't,

818
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 5: or you record a thirty minute interview and they used

819
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 5: five seconds or whatever. So I didn't know what was

820
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 5: gonna happen. And then there was that kind of fun.

821
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: That movie was just basically like my guy, Jared's a

822
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:30,919
Speaker 1: great director, writer, he's by trade does editing, and he's

823
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: been a producer for for for a lot of things.

824
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 1: But that was him like, hey, let's just make this happen.

825
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: We do that thing together, Like we were writing the

826
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: script as we got the money together and just wanted

827
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: to do something. It's like, it's so hard to actually

828
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: do something in that space. It's like you have to

829
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: jump through all these different hoops. And so it was

830
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 1: a huge learning process just to get one under our feather,

831
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: under a cap of making a movie, selling it to

832
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 1: lions Gate. And and you know, Pheelly killed it in

833
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: there too. Pheey, he's got his great future. I was

834
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: shocked at I don't manage Phey by the way.

835
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 4: Yeah he's still a friend, yeah, yeah, my boy.

836
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 6: No, No, he's like a father figure to that man.

837
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: Maybe so he does have my he does have my

838
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: face tattooed. And he didn't tell me because I know

839
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 1: I would have tried to talk to him out of.

840
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:16,800
Speaker 3: That, so, well, how did direct to that?

841
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 7: Because some people think that's weird, but it's it's that's

842
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 7: a gesture, right then.

843
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 5: Rogan always posts on social when every when someone tattoos

844
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 5: their face on him.

845
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, he always tweets social.

846
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:25,879
Speaker 2: I mean it was cool.

847
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, I've given so many guys craft about

848
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 1: tattoos in a loving way throughout the years, So that

849
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 1: was really hard. And I don't have one, but that's right,

850
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 1: you couldn't. I couldn't hate on on that front. It

851
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,399
Speaker 1: was just like really cool. And for him, it wasn't

852
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: about me. It was about what the team meant to

853
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: his life, and and obviously I started the team, so

854
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 1: it wasn't like this is of you, right, That was

855
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 1: a representation of his whole experience on Team Alpha.

856
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 5: Do you ever look back on the on the Dilla

857
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 5: Shaw stuff, And I remember towards the end when the

858
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 5: beef was at its speak and then slowly dying, just

859
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 5: as an observer, literally as a media observer, even I

860
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 5: was exhausted with it.

861
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I'm the opposite that was like this.

862
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:08,879
Speaker 3: I was like, when are they gonna fight?

863
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 4: For real?

864
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:10,919
Speaker 3: I want one in the cage, one in the street.

865
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 5: It seems like everyone's moved on. Everyone's happy he's back,

866
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 5: he's doing his thing whatever. He probably get a title

867
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 5: shot depending on how everything goes. When you look back

868
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 5: on that whole episode, what lesson.

869
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 4: Do you take from it?

870
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 3: Is there one I should have listened to? Connor?

871
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 4: No I.

872
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 1: I think my lesson was look because of the setting,

873
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: and really the whole beef between he and I is

874
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:41,280
Speaker 1: the miss interpretation of what actually happened. That's that's my beef,

875
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: is him saying that one thing happened and me saying

876
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 1: that another thing happened. My thing was that he left

877
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: the team, him saying I kicked him off the team,

878
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: and I'm like, it's very obvious what really happened. So

879
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,720
Speaker 1: I don't like the missing interpretation. I could do without

880
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 1: all the beef, and now I try to just just

881
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 1: ignore it.

882
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 2: I don't need that kind of drama that people have

883
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:03,760
Speaker 2: asked we're gonna fight, and I'm.

884
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: Like, unless it's a big frigging payday, like extremely big payday,

885
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 1: then I don't want that that stress of that, and

886
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: I don't think he wanted the stress of that.

887
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 7: But he was like Bobby the Brian Heenan and Cody

888
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:15,879
Speaker 7: Garbrandt's corner like it got Port Wrestling Looke.

889
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 6: That's probably why you hate Probably.

890
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 2: Oh that's funny. I was there to support Cody at

891
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 2: the time.

892
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,479
Speaker 5: It was it was just it just seemed never ending

893
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 5: and ugly. But but the weird part I never understood

894
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 5: was and again I don't even know what to make

895
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 5: of the beef anymore because it was so hard to

896
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 5: see what's coming and going. But in the end, it

897
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 5: does seem like it kind of changed things, at least

898
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 5: from the outside perspective, which is to say, guys, after that,

899
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 5: I know you have your core team and a lot

900
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 5: of those guys are just a core team. But it

901
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 5: does seem like sometimes people come and go or they

902
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 5: take a new coach here there, and it doesn't seem

903
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:45,720
Speaker 5: to be an issue anymore.

904
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 2: It's never been an issue.

905
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: It's never been The issue is if he's leaving, but

906
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 1: he's saying it got kicked off.

907
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 4: The team, that's the whole issue.

908
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:53,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the issue.

909
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: We've always We've had plenty of people go Joseph got

910
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,320
Speaker 1: Mary moved out here with Megan, We have Lance.

911
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,280
Speaker 2: This is this is something that people don't understand.

912
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 1: My team is is like America, right, It's made of immigrants.

913
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: Why would you expect and and why would you expect

914
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 1: Song to come out here and be on our team

915
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: and never go somewhere else.

916
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 2: It's like he came from frigging.

917
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: China, doesn't speak any English, you know, Like, why would

918
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,240
Speaker 1: he be required to stay never?

919
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:22,839
Speaker 4: Never?

920
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 2: That was their whole thing. That was that was their

921
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 2: whole thing.

922
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 3: I mean, would you text TJ like you guys?

923
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:29,800
Speaker 2: Ever, No, we're not. We don't really talk.

924
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,879
Speaker 4: Now, dwaynelug would lug. We've blocked me on social media.

925
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 4: I don't even know what I did. I like the guy.

926
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 4: I don't have an issue with it. You ever talked

927
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 4: to him, you ever see him? You must cross on

928
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 4: the coaching side of things.

929
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 2: And that was a whole different animal. That was like

930
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 2: a whole second without the TJ thing. You know, no,

931
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 2: I don't see him, just go ahead.

932
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 7: I would have derailed it. I would have been like,

933
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 7: speaking of dude, let's talk about him. Your dog is

934
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 7: big man, he's coming on.

935
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 4: You know you are such a fucking would you think

936
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:58,879
Speaker 4: you have to you have to do such a I'm bad.

937
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 7: I could tell like I ended that playing like Soley

938
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 7: Soliburger though, like I put that ship right in. But

939
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 7: in seriousness, I always look he was always looked at us,

940
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 7: your boy and and and I remember like a couple

941
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 7: of years ago at International Fight Week, you came up

942
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 7: to us and we have the cameras.

943
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 3: You were like you you got to interview him.

944
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 7: You got like and yo, he's shown some real promise

945
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 7: and a division full of sharks.

946
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 6: Where do you think he's at right now in the

947
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:23,280
Speaker 6: in his progression?

948
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 1: I think you can beat anybody. I mean, the one

949
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:30,240
Speaker 1: thing I'll say about Song is he's constantly pushing himself

950
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: to get better. And uh, you know right now he's

951
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 1: been he's been going out and doing some some like

952
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 1: cross training jiu jitsu wise with some high level guys

953
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: and and he's constantly trying out new, uh fitness regimens

954
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 1: because he's trying to push himself and like he's you know,

955
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 1: he's hungry, and he's uh, he's you know, got his

956
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: eye on the prize.

957
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 2: He believes it.

958
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 1: That was the biggest thing with me is making sure

959
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: that he believes he's going to be the world champion.

960
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: I think he understands now that he's supposed.

961
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 2: To be the world champ.

962
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 4: How old is song you Don twenty four? Jesus, he's

963
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:09,320
Speaker 4: just twenty four.

964
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a number one fighter under twenty five in

965
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: the world. And then we have Macy Barber and Corny

966
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:18,839
Speaker 1: McKenna that we're on that list in the top ten

967
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 1: that are on our team as well. Yeah, and we've

968
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 1: got a couple other that you're gonna know very soon.

969
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 2: Kalaio Romero is.

970
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 1: A guy that I can call champs, and I'm like,

971
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: Kalay is gonna be a champ. I bought him a bag,

972
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 1: you know, three years ago that says the champ. And

973
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: I've been trying to get Shelby to get him in

974
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: to fight for three years. And he's twenty five now,

975
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,720
Speaker 1: I think, and he's a stud.

976
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 2: You gotta see him on the Contender series coming on.

977
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 4: When do you think he'll hit his prime? When do

978
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 4: you think Song of Don is gonna really?

979
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 5: I understand he's getting better all the time and he's

980
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 5: starting to beat really good guys, but I mean, like,

981
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 5: not relative to where he stands in the division, well,

982
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 5: relative to where he stands at his potential as possible peak.

983
00:42:58,719 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 4: How far is he from his peak.

984
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 1: Well, I think like like Figgy, these guys are like

985
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 1: strong and healthy inside and outside of training.

986
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 2: That for me is a key.

987
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: That's That's one of the things that's helped me stay

988
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:18,280
Speaker 1: young is a lifetime of uh, you know, I'm actually

989
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 1: drinking a probiotic right now, live cap. This is like

990
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 1: a high level probiotic that's supposed to be like you know, brain,

991
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 1: gut like and and and keeping your body as it

992
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 1: was when you were born.

993
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 2: You know. That's what our goal is, right.

994
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 1: Is is have the same body as a toddler to

995
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 1: a team, to an old guy. Uh, and not get

996
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 1: you know, distended and how things. I didn't even know

997
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 1: what's in him. I'm just learning about this. I have

998
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 1: nothing to do with it. Yet, We'll see.

999
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 7: We brought up Macy Barbara real quick. There's something's changed,

1000
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 7: what has changed inside of her?

1001
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 2: I think Macy needed.

1002
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 1: I had a conversation with Macy Barber and she had

1003
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 1: done so much changing from this to that to this

1004
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 1: to that to this and that, and she was getting

1005
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: some bad advice and and just looking at things the

1006
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 1: wrong way. And I just told her, Macy, the the

1007
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 1: best you is internal. It's not out here or this coach,

1008
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:20,399
Speaker 1: or am I getting this much work?

1009
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 2: Blah blah. You know it's like are you are you

1010
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 2: the one? You know? Do you believe it? Do you

1011
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 2: do the work? She does the work, she has the skill.

1012
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 3: There's a monster inside of her.

1013
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:30,839
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh she's a beast.

1014
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:34,399
Speaker 1: And and you know she's she had to go out

1015
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 1: on her own a little bit, and she's you know,

1016
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 1: got a great relationship with her family still, but now

1017
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 1: it is like making her own decisions and and I

1018
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 1: think that's been the key for her.

1019
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 4: When does she start working with you? After the two

1020
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 4: losses or maybe second.

1021
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: One, I'm not sure when her losses were. Yeah, after that,

1022
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 1: she she came back and uh.

1023
00:44:58,160 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 3: Were you with her for the Maverick fight?

1024
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 7: That was yeah, okay, because that's how you could have

1025
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 7: she could have scored it against her.

1026
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 2: Was one of those.

1027
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 5: But Maverick is also like her, you know, a dynamic

1028
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 5: force on the rise.

1029
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's tough too. But yeah, for Macie, it's it's

1030
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 1: basically been that. It's like there's no doubt, like that girl.

1031
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 1: I was I was giving her crap because I was like, dude,

1032
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 1: where were you for morning practice? Or I had something

1033
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 1: morning call, and she's like, oh, I was on at

1034
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 1: five thirty. I said, you were sleeping in and she

1035
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 1: said no, I was on at five forty five with

1036
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: my mind coach or she had a personal coach, And

1037
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 1: I go, yeah, right.

1038
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 2: Then she sent me a.

1039
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 1: Screenshot at five forty five and she's got like two

1040
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 1: people that she talks to.

1041
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 2: Early in the morning that gets her mind straight.

1042
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 6: She's like she's on the top, ahead of the game

1043
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 6: right there.

1044
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 1: Oh, she's way ahead of the game on that kind

1045
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 1: of stuff. Like she's she's doing all the right things

1046
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: and now it's just got to you know, just got

1047
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: to come out.

1048
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 2: In the fighting.

1049
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,839
Speaker 1: And and she's she's right there for the for the chat.

1050
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,399
Speaker 4: It's all mental dude, Yes, you're a mental midget.

1051
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 5: How about Mike Malotte, Well, he is an absolute hammer,

1052
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 5: chiseled out of stone.

1053
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, he can punch his people's lights out.

1054
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 5: Obviously he's still developing, you know, he's far from his

1055
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 5: people as well.

1056
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 4: But yeah, how did he end up in your stables?

1057
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: Mike Malott came about six years ago to our team,

1058
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: and he was like, first off, trying to cut one

1059
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 1: hundred and forty five pounds for the longest time. Yeah,

1060
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 1: he's a seventy pounder't he's not grown taller. He's just

1061
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 1: like letting himself go out. And there was a time

1062
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 1: where he was battling some injuries. You know, we have

1063
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: our team banquet that that we have, you know, giving

1064
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: awards and whatnot, and he was the Newcomer Award back

1065
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: when he came out in Canada. Educated guy, disciplined guy,

1066
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 1: super skilled, His brother plays pro hockey's he's like.

1067
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 2: Comes from a family of athletes.

1068
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 1: And he took a time where he just decided that

1069
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: he didn't want to hurt anybody, and he didn't want

1070
00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 1: to get hurt.

1071
00:46:58,120 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 2: He had been having.

1072
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: Issues with his head and so he took like a

1073
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 1: four year hiatus.

1074
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 2: And then that time I said what do you want

1075
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 2: to do?

1076
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 1: And I molded him or like switched his role into

1077
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: a coach because he's so good at jiu jitsu and

1078
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 1: he's so good at stand up and and so it

1079
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: was like a process of blending him in because I

1080
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 1: was like, I don't want to lose this guy as

1081
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 1: a resource because of you know, he's got a great attitude,

1082
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 1: he's he's.

1083
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 2: You know, so knowledgeable, and so we turned him into

1084
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 2: a coach.

1085
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,760
Speaker 1: He's cornered a lot of guys and championship fights and

1086
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 1: and then he just got the itch back and was

1087
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 1: like I want to fight. He just hit a switch

1088
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 1: like that, like I want to fight, and he wanted

1089
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: to fight in the PFL.

1090
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 2: He's like, I want to go fight in the PFL.

1091
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: I want to go get that million bucks. And I

1092
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: just talked to what's his name who runs the PFL that.

1093
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, Ray, Sorry, Ray, I talked to her. I said, dude,

1094
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 2: I said, Ray.

1095
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 1: I tried to get a lot he wanted to fight,

1096
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 1: and he said, oh, he doesn't have enough fight. She

1097
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 1: hasn't been active enough. And so I said a lot.

1098
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 1: We got to get you some fights and then then

1099
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 1: he can get you in. And then he switched his

1100
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 1: mind and said I want to go to the UFC.

1101
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 2: All right, let's go.

1102
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 1: And that's the guy we manage and and got in

1103
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 1: his opportunity and and it was like maybe six months

1104
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,399
Speaker 1: after he decided he wanted to fight again, where he

1105
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 1: was in the Contender.

1106
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 4: Series and just putting people's life, but yeah.

1107
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: Knocking dudes out, submitting people. He had a really high

1108
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: level prospect that he took out that was, Uh, that

1109
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: was on the LFA. I think LFA or CCFC, I

1110
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 1: can't remember, and was having a tough first round and

1111
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 1: then and then Ice the dude with one punch and yeah,

1112
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 1: he's he's super focused and life is on target for him.

1113
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 4: How what's can you give us an update on?

1114
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:43,919
Speaker 5: It's the forever question for people like me, And maybe

1115
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 5: he has addressed this and if he already has, forgive me.

1116
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 4: Chris Holdsworth.

1117
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 5: Chris Holsworth has been a dynamic talent, but I know

1118
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 5: he had some neurological issues relate to concussions.

1119
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 4: I know he is coaching. Yeah, is it still just that?

1120
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 2: Yeah for him him it is.

1121
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:00,359
Speaker 1: And he's really taken on business at this point because

1122
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:04,240
Speaker 1: he's started his own gym and in Sacramental in Sacramento.

1123
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was affiliated with you in any way other.

1124
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 1: Than he's a coach for us. Still now it's it's

1125
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 1: Chris Holdsworth. But he's he's doing awesome. I'm I was

1126
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: hoping that I get him to be in our gym

1127
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 1: a little bit more. But he still helps out with

1128
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 1: the guys he's been working with, like Josh Emmett and

1129
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: Darren Elkins and and we've got.

1130
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 2: A great relationship, So yeah, he was.

1131
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 1: He was a skilled guy, another guy who had scared

1132
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 1: and decided, you know what, I don't want to take

1133
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 1: a risk with my body, and it makes sense.

1134
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 5: Have you ever experienced I asked this for Max because

1135
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:36,399
Speaker 5: you know Max's he doesn't spar which is great. Yeah,

1136
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 5: you know you've seen some of Maxi's fights. Even when

1137
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:40,800
Speaker 5: he wins. Sometimes man, they're like they're just French warfare.

1138
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:42,360
Speaker 5: Have you ever experienced? And I know that it's a

1139
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 5: sensitive question, So I don't mean you like you're head

1140
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 5: any neurological issues. I don't mean like in a fight itself,

1141
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 5: but after the fight.

1142
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:51,879
Speaker 1: Not No, and my I'm kind of the opposite of Max.

1143
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 1: You don't see me in a lot of like nasty.

1144
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: You know, if you can think back, there's never been like,

1145
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,320
Speaker 1: you know, a big like where I've I feel like

1146
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 1: I've lost lost brain cells and years off my life

1147
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:04,839
Speaker 1: per se.

1148
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 2: But sparring and training is.

1149
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 1: The hard part, you know, you do years and years

1150
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:14,439
Speaker 1: and years of that. I feel like I've definitely questioned, like, hey,

1151
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 1: am I going to have some sort of issues in

1152
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 1: the past, like like I've heard people that are slurring

1153
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: their words and stuff and that I can tell have

1154
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: some sort of issues boxers and people that have that

1155
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 1: type of style. And so I've asked, I'm like, hey,

1156
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,800
Speaker 1: am I like, am I talking?

1157
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 2: All right?

1158
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 7: You know you beat the game and in a few

1159
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 7: different ways, but but you've certainly beat the game in

1160
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 7: that regard.

1161
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, and and and so for me, I feel like

1162
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 1: I have a lot of my played a lot of times, so.

1163
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 2: I am a little forgetful.

1164
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,240
Speaker 1: And I don't know that if that's from being hitting

1165
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 1: the head or that's from having a ton of stuff.

1166
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 6: On your.

1167
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 4: That because I've been h that I did the exact same.

1168
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 1: And the other thing that's really hard for me is

1169
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 1: like because people know where I'm at, so I can

1170
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:00,080
Speaker 1: get bombarded.

1171
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 2: Throughout the whole day.

1172
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 1: So you know, you can only have so many things

1173
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: on your conscious mind at a time. I think it's

1174
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 1: like seven for the average person. Like if I'm trying

1175
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 1: to do me and I'm getting like a barrage of

1176
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 1: people like in my face with their issues, like I

1177
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 1: need to like just close myself in a room.

1178
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 2: Sometimes otherwise it's like it's like yeah, but.

1179
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 4: We gotta I want to ask one about one more

1180
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 4: fighter in the stable.

1181
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 7: That Okay, then I got to play the hits. Man,

1182
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 7: I've got your favorite on the couch trying to do it.

1183
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 5: One more about Josh Emmett. Josh emmittt big win over

1184
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 5: Calvin Cator. He's had a few big wins, of course,

1185
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:30,800
Speaker 5: that was one again at the time of this recording,

1186
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:34,359
Speaker 5: the most recent one. I will say, thirty seven years

1187
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:37,320
Speaker 5: of age. He's an absolute hammer and his power is ridiculous.

1188
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1189
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 5: Uh, He's taken a lot of damage, you know, and

1190
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:44,320
Speaker 5: that Jeremy Stevens fight, messing up the gums and nerves,

1191
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 5: and he must be tough. What is I can see

1192
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 5: who Josh Emmitt is as an observer watching what he does,

1193
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:52,919
Speaker 5: but knowing him more intimately, What can you say about

1194
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 5: him to that effect?

1195
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 1: Man, Josh Emmett, It's like hard to get a paragraph

1196
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 1: out of him, and in a long conversation he's just

1197
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 1: so quiet, keeps himself and just he's got a real

1198
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 1: chip on his shoulder.

1199
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 2: He feels like, you.

1200
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 1: Know, he should have had more opportunities earlier, and I

1201
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:16,840
Speaker 1: agree because of the way he fights and the power

1202
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 1: in his hands and everything else. He's had some major

1203
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 1: major setbacks even before he's in the UFC, and.

1204
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 2: It took him forever to get to the UFC. He's

1205
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 2: another guy.

1206
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:27,839
Speaker 1: I can go back to emails from twenty eleven where

1207
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get him in. You know, he's hey,

1208
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 1: he's six, and oh he's seven, or oh he's eight,

1209
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 1: and oh he's nine, oh he's ten and h over

1210
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 1: a span of years and him not getting his call.

1211
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 1: And I don't know if it's because he's quiet or

1212
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:41,720
Speaker 1: what the deal is, because there's big stints in between

1213
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 1: his fights on activity level, but he's actually had a

1214
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 1: lot less damage in the practice scenario than a guy

1215
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:55,439
Speaker 1: like myself or guys that have been healthy the whole

1216
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 1: time through. You know, I've had forty six fights. He's

1217
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: had a handle of fights, you know, had I had

1218
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 1: forty forty forty four fights by the time I was

1219
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 1: thirty seven, and he's had however many, you know, and

1220
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 1: then I and then I trained all the way through,

1221
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 1: never took a break at all.

1222
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 2: You know, I never do it.

1223
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:13,439
Speaker 3: Your longevity is sick.

1224
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,320
Speaker 1: I mean, but Josh, he's been on that same path,

1225
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 1: but he's been training smarter for longer.

1226
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:20,720
Speaker 2: And then he's had fewer fights. But when his fights

1227
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:21,240
Speaker 2: go down.

1228
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,879
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's power and explosion, and he's had

1229
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 1: some some bad breaks in his hands and the few

1230
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 1: things on his head with you know that that one

1231
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:34,240
Speaker 1: where he had his face crush was just hard Jeremy seven,

1232
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 1: it was bad and it was in my opinion, I

1233
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 1: legal need learning to some some after the you know,

1234
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 1: unnecessary blows and I'm like, didn't need to happen, you know,

1235
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 1: and he was he already had a knock down on

1236
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 1: Jeremy Stevens that way, so that that fight puts him

1237
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 1: in the title contention right there.

1238
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 7: Even as win over Shaanebourghos, he had to empty the

1239
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 7: tank like that was all win right about?

1240
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 1: How about Holtzman Holtzman, And I mean that that that

1241
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 1: h Holtzman dude, that was a freak of war in

1242
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 1: Sacramento and Holtzman's no joke and that kind of like

1243
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:14,320
Speaker 1: that was like a who moves on kind of scenario.

1244
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 1: But those guys are pretty damn even and it just

1245
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 1: came down to willpower and being a little bit better

1246
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 1: on the day you.

1247
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 4: Think the it seems like the cater win is gonna

1248
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 4: get him a title shot, and we don't know who

1249
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 4: it's gonna be.

1250
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 1: But it's got to get him a title. It's the

1251
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 1: best position he's ever been in. But I mean, why not.

1252
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, I was a human development major

1253
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 1: and they always talk about like if you're gonna be

1254
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 1: going to be a teacher. The quiet kid gets overlooked

1255
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 1: a lot. It's always the mouth that's talking and the

1256
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 1: people that kid has trouble or whatever. Like the good

1257
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 1: quiet kid just doesn't get as much attention, doesn't get

1258
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 1: as much nurturing and and as as somebody that's in

1259
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 1: a role to develop humans. You have to give that

1260
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 1: person their time. But then motion game, they get overlooked.

1261
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 1: It's fucked up. You know, it's it's his time, all right.

1262
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 3: I got a your Riya favor here. I got to

1263
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 3: play the hits with the California Kid.

1264
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 7: Take me back to twenty sixteen, three months before you

1265
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 7: end up getting the trilogy with Dom Cruise. At UFC

1266
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 7: one ninety nine, the phone rings and they're like, Yo,

1267
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,760
Speaker 7: RDA is hurt. Connor needs a dance partner for UFC

1268
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 7: one ninety six. Oh yeah, came down to you and

1269
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 7: Nate Diaz. YEA, what was that phone interaction like? And

1270
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 7: how bad did you want that fight in that moment?

1271
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 1: Oh man, I wanted that fight, not because just like Connor.

1272
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:33,840
Speaker 1: I actually love Connor, like we have hilarious conversations on

1273
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 1: DM all the time.

1274
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 2: He's a riot.

1275
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 1: But that's the fight, you know, and he knows that.

1276
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 1: I know that that was that was the fight for me.

1277
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 1: And so Dana is like, hey, kid, I know you.

1278
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 1: I told you weren't going to get this fight, but

1279
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:50,320
Speaker 1: we need to step in. And this is at fifty fives.

1280
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 1: I'm a thirty five pounder, and I'm like, yes, let's

1281
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:54,479
Speaker 1: do it.

1282
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 2: And uh. And so then he's like, okay, okay, let

1283
00:55:58,280 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 2: me see and I go, what's going on?

1284
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:01,879
Speaker 1: Like he goes, you're you're a guy, and like blah

1285
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 1: blah blah's He's like blowing smoke, and I go, all right,

1286
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 1: what's going on?

1287
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 2: I know Frankie, I know Aldo, I know uh Pettis,

1288
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:11,399
Speaker 2: I know Cowboy, I.

1289
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:17,359
Speaker 1: Know uh you know, uh, I.

1290
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 2: Know Nate Diaz.

1291
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 1: So I started doing some research and Frankie Edgar was injured. Uh,

1292
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 1: Pettis was coming off a lot, you know, cowboys coming

1293
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,320
Speaker 1: off lost a loss of r DA. And so Connor said,

1294
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 1: I'm not fighting him off a loss. Pettis had been

1295
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 1: injured as well, or he's on his he was on

1296
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 1: a skid. He was on a couple of fights skid

1297
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 1: an when they knocked him out, Al didn't want to fight,

1298
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 1: and then Nate Diaz told him to fuck off because

1299
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 1: they wanted to extend his his contract. And I'm buddies

1300
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 1: with all these guys, like that's one of my value

1301
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:56,799
Speaker 1: valuable traits is I can get to get to anyone

1302
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 1: and find out what's going on. And so all those

1303
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 1: guys are out and Data is like, you're the guy,

1304
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, well that's why I'm the guy.

1305
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 1: At the moment, they go up two weight classes and fight,

1306
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 1: and then.

1307
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 6: Uh so why'd you lose it? How did you not

1308
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 6: get it?

1309
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:09,839
Speaker 2: So then they go back to Nate.

1310
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 1: So Nate says, f you hangs up on him because

1311
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 1: they wanted him to extend his They wanted to extend

1312
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 1: his contract from forty and forty. They wanted to give

1313
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 1: him like fifty and fifty on like a seven fight

1314
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 1: deal or something, you know, and he was getting so

1315
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 1: jastly underpaid and uh and so then they're like, you know,

1316
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 1: they're gonna pay him a million dollars, but extend his

1317
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 1: contract and then uh, and then Connor says, I I

1318
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 1: want Diaz. Connor made the call. He didn't want to

1319
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 1: fight me, like we're kind of friends too, you know,

1320
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 1: and I'm coming up two weight classes. He got nothing

1321
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 1: to lose, nothing to win. There his only losses or submissions.

1322
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 1: I've got the most submissions at the time in UFCWC

1323
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 1: and and Pride combined, you know, me and no Garrett

1324
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 1: were tied for it at the time. And so he

1325
00:57:57,880 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 1: said he wanted Nate, and so they had to go back,

1326
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 1: and because Connor wanted Nate, they had to go pay

1327
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 1: Nate and Nate made out.

1328
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 2: Like abandon on the day.

1329
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 1: I was there the whole time in the like because

1330
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 1: I talked to Nate and I knew the whole, the

1331
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 1: whole shebang. And Lloyd, who's actually you know, my partner

1332
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 1: at the Vayner Group, who's helped with Figgy and all

1333
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 1: my guys, He's the one that did that deal with

1334
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 1: Nate and and Connor.

1335
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 3: Not bad, not bad. Look, you would have been up

1336
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 3: at fifty five.

1337
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 7: I think people would assumed it's more likely that Connor

1338
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 7: would stop you. But he imploded that night against Nate anyway,

1339
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 7: so there were ways to.

1340
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 3: Blow up that death star. How would you have approached

1341
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 3: that fight?

1342
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 1: I mean, the one thing that would have been an

1343
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 1: advantage for me, and it happens all the time at speed.

1344
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 1: I mean I used to have the worst trouble with

1345
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 1: Joseph Benitez because he was so frigging fast.

1346
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 2: He was my hardest barring partner.

1347
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 1: I go with Danny Castillo, and I go with you know,

1348
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 1: Justin Buckles at those times, and and other fifty five pounds,

1349
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 1: and I would have an easier time with them than

1350
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 1: I would with Joseph, because Joseph was so fast. The

1351
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 1: other thing would be h if you saw Chad take

1352
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 1: Connor down. Chad broke his broke his hand in the

1353
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 1: first punch on round and pound when he fought Connor.

1354
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 2: Damn that fighter.

1355
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, but Chad took him down like that, and uh,

1356
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 1: And so I would have tried to use speed and

1357
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:23,959
Speaker 1: then do everything to get it into the ground, because

1358
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 1: I mean Connor hits like a truck obviously, and he's

1359
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 1: got precision, and he's he's a big guy.

1360
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 5: Connor's been too successful, right, I mean, he's gotten so

1361
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 5: good he's gotten so many options. He doesn't have to

1362
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 5: do jack shit, especially with all the alcohol money he's made.

1363
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 4: You know, do you think he comes back? But do

1364
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 4: you think? I know, he says he wants to, but like,

1365
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 4: what do you get he's stupid wealthy.

1366
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 1: Look when I retired, when I retired from fighting, I

1367
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 1: found myself in practice every day, you know what I mean. Like,

1368
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 1: he's built a habit and he's got an internal that

1369
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 1: you don't fight for money. I mean you could say

1370
00:59:57,480 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 1: you're fighting for money or whatnot. The guys that are

1371
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 1: fighting for have very short careers. He's got an internal

1372
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 1: desire to show that he's the baddest guy on the planet.

1373
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 2: Now. Whether he's been cushioned.

1374
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 1: Up a little bit because of all the perks that

1375
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 1: he has from being the wealthiest athlete in the world

1376
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 1: at this point or for that one year at least,

1377
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:23,920
Speaker 1: who knows, But he's still that doesn't change who you

1378
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:25,959
Speaker 1: are where you think you're the baddest dude.

1379
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:27,439
Speaker 2: You know, that's like an internal thing.

1380
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 1: So I think he probably will fight. Yeah, I think

1381
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 1: he should fight fifty five. I mean, he looks jacked.

1382
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 2: Right now, He's looks huge. Yeah, he looks huge second

1383
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 2: comes back to a title fight.

1384
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 1: I don't know about that, Probably not, but I me yeah,

1385
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 1: I mean if he wants.

1386
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 6: It like a Tony Ferguson, like that type of match.

1387
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 2: If somebody has the title that he's interested in. Yeah,

1388
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 2: but he doesn't. He's not about the title as much anymore.

1389
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:56,439
Speaker 1: I think he wants the bigger fights, you know, which

1390
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 1: I don't blame him, like those are the ones that

1391
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:00,160
Speaker 1: are going to get him paid because he gets the

1392
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 1: cut of everything.

1393
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 2: You know.

1394
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 4: Also like, well, do you think it's the DS trilogy?

1395
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:05,480
Speaker 4: You think we see a trilogy with them?

1396
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 2: That'd be great for both those guys.

1397
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 6: I actually rematch Max rematch is gonna happen.

1398
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 4: Max rematch is there.

1399
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 5: So he's got a lot of irons on the fire.

1400
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 5: He can go to the dustin party. Wants to be

1401
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 5: something kind of want to.

1402
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 1: I think Masvidol and Connor would be a good one

1403
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 1: because uh, you know, Connor's gotten a lot bigger and

1404
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 1: and they're both sluggers, And yeah, I think it'd be

1405
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 1: I'd be a good one.

1406
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 5: Will you reflect on your entire journey in MMA from

1407
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 5: fighter and you've done clothing and you've done now management

1408
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 5: and everything else in between. It's been a hell of

1409
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:38,479
Speaker 5: a journey. I wonder like, is there a.

1410
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 4: Singular way you think about like what it takes to

1411
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 4: succeed in mma? Like what is? What is? What is

1412
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 4: the truth of that?

1413
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously success is a pretty internal thing, like

1414
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 1: where you happy and content? And I've talked to guys

1415
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 1: that are pretty happy and content like where they're at,

1416
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 1: so that that's a big win, you know, being happy

1417
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 1: with where you're at. But for success, I would say,

1418
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 1: like you asking for what is the measure of success?

1419
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 2: Or how do you get success?

1420
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 5: How is it possible that you there must be something

1421
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 5: a about you, But be about what you understand about

1422
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 5: the industry that you have navigated so successfully with so

1423
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 5: many different hats on.

1424
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 1: You know, For for that, for that kind of thing,

1425
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 1: I would say, first off, I'm a people person and

1426
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 1: I try not to have enemies unless they like choose me,

1427
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 1: you know, even dominant Cruise, I feel like he always

1428
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:33,960
Speaker 1: chose me as an enemy and at this point we're

1429
01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:40,080
Speaker 1: we're cool, and I you know, have a short memory

1430
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:42,440
Speaker 1: when it comes to that kind of stuff. I think

1431
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 1: working extremely extremely hard is step number one. I don't

1432
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 1: play video games I don't like do all the leisure ship.

1433
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 2: I don't faith, I don't, I don't, I don't.

1434
01:02:57,160 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 1: Chill like I'm I'm like go mode, like I try

1435
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 1: to squeeze much into my day as possible. And and

1436
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 1: then the the number one ingredient for anybody's success anywhere,

1437
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:09,360
Speaker 1: you guys and everyone, is just how.

1438
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 2: Big are you thinking?

1439
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 1: Like so many people are afraid or ignorant to thinking big.

1440
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 2: They just don't understand all that they can do.

1441
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 1: You know, you can do a you can do a lot,

1442
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 1: and you can accomplish a lot, and people are not

1443
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 1: thinking big enough. And I've met people of all different

1444
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:33,360
Speaker 1: walks self made billionaires and and you know actors and

1445
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 1: athletes and and you know kids on their fighting cancer,

1446
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 1: that on their deathbed and they're pre before puberty. It's like,

1447
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:46,160
Speaker 1: you know, the the mind is the key.

1448
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:47,480
Speaker 2: You got to believe.

1449
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:49,280
Speaker 1: And then you have to not be deterred on all

1450
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 1: the negative stuff because there's gonna be negative stuff.

1451
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 2: Over and over again. You're not gonna not.

1452
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:57,040
Speaker 1: Be anxious or not be scared or feel like everyone's

1453
01:03:57,080 --> 01:04:00,200
Speaker 1: against you, or you know, feel like I couldn't get

1454
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:03,600
Speaker 1: any worse. You know, that ship is happening for sure,

1455
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 1: just like if you're in a fight, you're gonna get hit.

1456
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 7: Uh, So you can just surfer zen thing that kind

1457
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 7: of just regulates you.

1458
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 3: It writes you, and you and you just flow.

1459
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 2: I mean, what other choice do we have. You're either

1460
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:17,600
Speaker 2: dead or you're trying.

1461
01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:18,960
Speaker 5: You Well, you can do what I do, which is

1462
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:20,959
Speaker 5: just live anxiety ridden and pani.

1463
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 2: All the time.

1464
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:25,320
Speaker 1: But you're having success a little bit here today you

1465
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:28,480
Speaker 1: got your beautiful daughter, Like like you're rolling at me.

1466
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:29,919
Speaker 4: I've got this. I've got this.

1467
01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 2: With.

1468
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 4: But he's pretty good too.

1469
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 1: And I try not to put a value on material things,

1470
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 1: Like I'm like, you know, like I try not to

1471
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:46,479
Speaker 1: think about money, but I'm always trying to make fun

1472
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 1: ways to where I can have something so I can

1473
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 1: keep doing what I want. And that's been a big key.

1474
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:53,439
Speaker 1: Like I see people that focus on this, and there's

1475
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:55,439
Speaker 1: been times when I've been you know, I never had

1476
01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:58,600
Speaker 1: huge paydays for most of my career. It was like,

1477
01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 1: you know, there's been time I've been pressed for cash

1478
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 1: and whatnot, and you just don't worry, just keep going right.

1479
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:06,080
Speaker 7: But you got a knack for even as a fighter

1480
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 7: in the second half of your career finding your way

1481
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:10,160
Speaker 7: back into title fights, and that's a skill on top

1482
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:12,480
Speaker 7: of also being really good enough to justify it. Like

1483
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 7: you seem to maneuvered your career in like I like

1484
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 7: I was look at Sugarray Leonard on the boxing side

1485
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 7: and say like you know him, Floyd, Like those guys

1486
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 7: beat the game. They came out of this death trap

1487
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:24,360
Speaker 7: of an industry and are like better off for it,

1488
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 7: and they're now doing all these things. You even had

1489
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 7: that kind of mojo, you know while still.

1490
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, because people you slidered well, I don't know how

1491
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:37,080
Speaker 1: many times an aerial I always make fun of aerial

1492
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 1: for this. I'm like how many times you're like is

1493
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:39,440
Speaker 1: this it?

1494
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:41,960
Speaker 2: Is it over? And I'm like why would it be over?

1495
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:45,120
Speaker 2: Like you've had two title shots? It's like, yeah, I was.

1496
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:47,960
Speaker 1: I was in the super Bowl and I lost the

1497
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 1: super Bowl. Like if you aren't the reporter of the year, A,

1498
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:51,960
Speaker 1: you're gonna quit.

1499
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:57,120
Speaker 2: She took second, like come on like behind yeah.

1500
01:05:57,160 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 1: So like honestly, it's like this completely about interpretation on things.

1501
01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 1: It's like people just how are they taking things in

1502
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 1: and interpreting him is so different and when you can just.

1503
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 2: Stick to what you want to believe. I think that's

1504
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:11,880
Speaker 2: the key.

1505
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 1: Two things I always say this, and I started like

1506
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:19,440
Speaker 1: pointing this out. Two things that are great that people

1507
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:23,880
Speaker 1: put a bad rap on. One is making excuses. I'm

1508
01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:28,720
Speaker 1: great at making excuses. Why I lose the dominant cruise

1509
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:32,880
Speaker 1: on twenty eleven, Well, the judges were looking at the

1510
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 1: wrong crap in my opinion, that's my excuse.

1511
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:38,200
Speaker 2: Had I had a more output.

1512
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 1: Then hopefully they wouldn't have gone my way, meaning throw

1513
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:44,640
Speaker 1: more punches, like in a volume sense.

1514
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 2: Right, You've got to make excuses that you can fix.

1515
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:51,160
Speaker 1: Right, if you can make an excuse that you can fix, like, well, shit,

1516
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:54,560
Speaker 1: he you know, he threw this many more punches than

1517
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:56,160
Speaker 1: I do. Okay, well I can fix that. I can

1518
01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:58,720
Speaker 1: try to throw that many punches or more and then

1519
01:06:58,720 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 1: you can time.

1520
01:06:59,240 --> 01:06:59,800
Speaker 2: It and do that.

1521
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 1: You know, if you have beliefs that in excuses that

1522
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 1: you can't fix, those are bad. The second thing is

1523
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 1: being delusional. Some of the connors delusional. That is delusional.

1524
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:16,240
Speaker 2: But it panned out, right, it really did magic somehow

1525
01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:18,720
Speaker 2: out And I've met really.

1526
01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:21,920
Speaker 1: You know, even like a Gary Vee, Who's who's a

1527
01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:24,840
Speaker 1: guy that when I when I first started Gary seeing

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Speaker 1: Gary Vee's stuff on on Instagram. He had a little

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Speaker 1: bit fewer followers than I did, and now he's at

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Speaker 1: like eleven million. He made all his focus on growing

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Speaker 1: his social media outreach and he wrote a book about it,

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Speaker 1: and he has used it to you know, has a

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Speaker 1: marketing company, has all these different brands that have built

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Speaker 1: off of that, and people pay him to do this

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Speaker 1: and do that, and that's where he said his focus.

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Speaker 1: But he just believed it, you know. And Joseph ben Avitez,

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Speaker 1: I remember when he first came down and he used

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Speaker 1: me as an example of like, hey, you're He goes,

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Speaker 1: you're the guy.

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Speaker 2: And I was.

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01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 1: I was getting paid when he when he moved down,

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01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 1: I think I was getting paid.

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01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:04,960
Speaker 2: Maybe four thousand and four thousand to.

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Speaker 1: Shit fight and he's like, you're the biggest name guy

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01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:09,040
Speaker 1: in the sport for the lightweights.

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Speaker 2: That's what I want to do.

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01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:12,960
Speaker 1: And I'm thinking, dude, I'm making like eight thousand bucks

1548
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Speaker 1: you know every four months.

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Speaker 6: You know, like he's killers.

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Speaker 7: Dude, Well if you face like your WEC run is

1551
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:23,559
Speaker 7: fucking killers across the board, like it's wild man to

1552
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:25,760
Speaker 7: look back at that, and also you know, to speak

1553
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:28,040
Speaker 7: to your longevity. Two of my favorite fighters as a

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Speaker 7: fan along that time, Mike Thomas Brown, Baron Burrow.

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Speaker 3: They beat you, then.

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01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 7: They just disappeared, and you just kept going more title

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01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:38,639
Speaker 7: fights after that. So it's like you were in big

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01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 7: fights and even if you didn't win it, because you

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01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:43,320
Speaker 7: always bounce back and because you always sought out another

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01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:46,280
Speaker 7: big name, you got that respect along with it. You know,

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Speaker 7: you don't have to be a full time browler to

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01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:49,800
Speaker 7: get that respect. You got that respect in the way

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Speaker 7: that you sort of handled yourself.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, just stayed in the game. I mean people

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Speaker 1: quit early. I talked about that all the time too,

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Speaker 1: you know. You know, I wasn't the best I wrestler.

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01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:02,200
Speaker 1: I did pretty good and then I went on. I

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01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:04,800
Speaker 1: was top twelve in the state in California. Then I

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01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 1: went on with the same mentality, work ethic, and I

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01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:08,759
Speaker 1: was top twelve in the nation. It took a second

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01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:12,920
Speaker 1: at University Nationals and then guys that I beat or

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01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 1: lost to got into m m A for a little

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Speaker 1: bit and then they petered out.

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Speaker 2: But I stayed there twenty years.

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Speaker 1: You know, if I fight this year, that'd be twenty

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01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:24,120
Speaker 1: years as a combat athlete, and that doesn't include my wrestling.

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Speaker 1: That's just as a professional mixed martial artist. So that's

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01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:27,880
Speaker 1: kind of tempting.

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Speaker 6: And if you would have beat you on, you would

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01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:30,720
Speaker 6: have fought for a title in your next night.

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Speaker 1: I mean yeah, and again I know that's and that's

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01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:36,200
Speaker 1: that's Those are the risks you take.

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01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:38,639
Speaker 2: You know, those are the risks you take.

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Speaker 5: Well, I gotta tell you you've taken a lot of risks,

1585
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 5: but a lot of them have paid off.

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Speaker 4: Man, you have done so well.

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Speaker 3: For sitting on this couch.

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Speaker 5: Today was a big and this is a mile zone

1589
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Speaker 5: you won't soon forget.

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01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:50,559
Speaker 4: I was like, you're right.

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01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:52,240
Speaker 5: Was this a number in your phone because something We

1592
01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:54,559
Speaker 5: had a whole miscommunication and I was like, no, I

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01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:55,800
Speaker 5: have actually never had that number.

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh, okay, yeah, I never had a

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Speaker 2: seven o two. I know we've talked before.

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01:09:59,880 --> 01:10:01,800
Speaker 4: I had you on every version of every show.

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01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:04,360
Speaker 5: I remember you did a meet and greet one time

1598
01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:07,000
Speaker 5: for an old mid Atlantic promotion. Remember u WC back

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Speaker 5: in the AUX and you came out there. We talked

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Speaker 5: all the time back then too. I've been covering your

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Speaker 5: career for a long time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Absolutely think you can make yourself.

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01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:15,760
Speaker 5: Accessible, but seriously, in all seriousness for a guy who

1604
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:18,799
Speaker 5: has seen everything from all the way from Gladiator Challenge

1605
01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:21,040
Speaker 5: to the w C and then everything else. Dude, it's

1606
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:23,680
Speaker 5: you are not relevant by accident. It is not an act.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that.

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01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:26,120
Speaker 4: So we appreciate you making some time for us.

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01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:30,759
Speaker 5: So we'll do this again in twenty years this product.

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01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:31,600
Speaker 4: What do we got coming up?

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Speaker 2: Cali Ie. So if you've heard of Trifecta Nutrition.

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Speaker 4: That's the business. They ship you the meals, They ship.

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Speaker 1: Your meals directly and it's the best food. My kids

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01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 1: are built on that stuff. I'm going to do the

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01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:44,719
Speaker 1: same thing with the s Ie.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Not only are we going to be in a lot

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01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:51,599
Speaker 1: of you know, mom and pop places for for jiu

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01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:54,360
Speaker 1: jitsu and gyms, et cetera, but we're going to be

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01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:56,719
Speaker 1: able to ship the best os I in the planet

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01:10:56,960 --> 01:11:00,479
Speaker 1: to you directly. So that's coming soon. And then uh,

1622
01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:03,479
Speaker 1: as you know, we have all these fighters coming up,

1623
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 1: so check us out there. We've we've got a great

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01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:08,600
Speaker 1: stable fighters that that are really making a name for

1625
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:10,000
Speaker 1: themselves on their own, which I love.

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Speaker 6: You'll make a Green Rush sequel, bro make us.

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01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:13,840
Speaker 1: And we've got movies coming to make that, make a

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Speaker 1: sequel and that ship right. That was that was just

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01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:18,960
Speaker 1: that's the worst movie we're ever gonna make, but it

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Speaker 1: was still great.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:21,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was really great.

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Speaker 5: Congratulations, thank you for the time, your favorite ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 2: You did it.