WEBVTT - Betty and Barney Hill

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Insider's Guide to the Other Side, a production

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<v Speaker 1>of iHeartRadio. Hi, y'all, I'm Julie.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi there, I'm Brenda. Welcome to Insider's Guide to the

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<v Speaker 2>Other Side.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, y'all need to know that we are obsessed with

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<v Speaker 1>everything on the other side.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, we are, because once you learn to navigate the energetic,

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<v Speaker 2>or to some the invisible world, life is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be more fun and much more serene.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh heck, yes it can, because, let's be honest, brand

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<v Speaker 1>Earth school is hard.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, you taught me that let's crush Earth School together.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, hello, my witchy pooh, I want to talk aliens

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<v Speaker 1>with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice?

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<v Speaker 1>How you doing.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm great, my alf how are you Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Not about aliens, but it feels like there's aliens in

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<v Speaker 1>my eyeballs right now because I and Santa Fe is

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<v Speaker 1>killing me, and you, of course gave me great advice

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<v Speaker 1>which I did not follow properly, which is to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>put lavender over my sinus, as you said, just put

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<v Speaker 1>it on the top on my foreheads forehead, which I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't hear that only that part, And so my eyeballs

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<v Speaker 1>are really awake and wide and anyway, so I have

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<v Speaker 1>my glasses put down like a crazy old librarian.

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<v Speaker 2>So hi, everybody, I have an enthusiastic y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>It's has been a rough day though, I mean these allergies,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, rough day.

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<v Speaker 2>Diffusing Diffusing lavender in the room is helpful.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so y'all, here you go. If that's all you

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<v Speaker 1>get out of this episode, Diffuse lavender if you're dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with any allergies. I woke up with like watery eyes, congestion, fatigue.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, how am I going to do it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Allergies are exhausting, Yes they are.

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<v Speaker 1>And had wild ass dreams last night. Well, there you go,

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<v Speaker 1>wild as dreams.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think that's because the allergies, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>do not.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't think so. Is it because something's in Uranus

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<v Speaker 1>and Saturn or something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well Jupiter is in Gemini, and you know is that

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<v Speaker 2>wild ass dreams? Well for you, Gemini is very important.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, wild ass like and like so active.

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<v Speaker 1>I woke up exhausted from them. Yeah that happens, and

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<v Speaker 1>I remember them. Yeah, yeah, it was. That's weird. I know.

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<v Speaker 1>I sent out a message this morning to somebody who

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<v Speaker 1>was in it, who I haven't talked to and probably

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<v Speaker 1>twenty years.

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<v Speaker 2>That's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Her name was Koiesta Hood and Pile. Wow, yeah name,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a name right. She was our hairdresser growing up

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<v Speaker 1>in Miama and became a friend of the family and

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<v Speaker 1>I had her expired ID when I was sixteen, So

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<v Speaker 1>that was my fake ID.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>Not about the not our topic today, but just a

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<v Speaker 1>little left wild today, No, not today, Satan however, wild

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<v Speaker 1>as streams like just wild anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of wild, Yes, what do you got?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think it's what you got because it was

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<v Speaker 1>you who reached out and said, my elf, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to listen to this podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>So I did just want to do one back up

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<v Speaker 2>for a minute because it took me a minute to

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<v Speaker 2>pull up your chart. So your moon is probably conjunct

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<v Speaker 2>the transitting Jupiter, which would make your nighttime dreams.

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<v Speaker 1>Wild ass Yes, fucking hell. I mean it's like it's exhausting.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I'm like working all night.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so you want to set your intention for what

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<v Speaker 2>you want to dream then instead of just like leaving

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<v Speaker 2>it to the cosmos. Okay, yeah, So what great idea is,

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<v Speaker 2>what great inspirations, what creativity can I be you know

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<v Speaker 2>what new things framework stories, I can be weak.

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<v Speaker 1>That was part of it, by the way. Oh no,

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<v Speaker 1>but then, but it was exhausting. Anyway, it's it's totally fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll live and I don't. I'm not mad at it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of fun. It's just exhausting.

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<v Speaker 2>Just direct it tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>I will direct it better than I did. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>it's your fault. We're doing this episode, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>part one of part two. Word do two of these

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<v Speaker 1>because it is so incredibly fascinating. But I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>let you explain everybody that you caused it.

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<v Speaker 2>I was driving. I was driving, and so when I'm

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<v Speaker 2>driving in other times i'd like to listen to a podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I was driving, like the things just rolled into

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<v Speaker 2>whatever the next podcast was. And I heard a postcast

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<v Speaker 2>with someone named Preston Dennett, and I loved his storytelling.

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<v Speaker 2>I loved his focus on data gathering. I loved his

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<v Speaker 2>approach that was not commercialized or dramatic. It was all

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<v Speaker 2>like no. I actually resisted this for a long time

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<v Speaker 2>until I had these kind of experiences and realized these

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<v Speaker 2>people in my life were having these kind of experiences

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<v Speaker 2>and people were talking to me, and so then I

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<v Speaker 2>started researching it and like he ran the numbers, which

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate. But of course one of the ones that

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<v Speaker 2>he resourced and mentioned in this podcast was the Betty

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<v Speaker 2>and Barney Hill story, which is what we think of

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<v Speaker 2>in our generation as the OG story. Right. It's these

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<v Speaker 2>two husband and wife were traveling. Was it in upstate

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<v Speaker 2>New York? Do you remember?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's New Hampshire or New Hampshire.

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<v Speaker 2>I knew it was nor which.

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<v Speaker 1>Calls New Hampster not relevant but bunny but very funny.

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<v Speaker 2>And so they're traveling at night and they their car

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<v Speaker 2>malfunctions and they're like, what do we do? We're on

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<v Speaker 2>this dark country road and then everything goes black?

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<v Speaker 1>Right, it's insane. Okay, So wait, you heard your brother

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<v Speaker 1>read this to you, right, the story he read.

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<v Speaker 2>He read this to me when I was in fourth grade.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So that's that's what I recall, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's pretty accurate because you know, as a as a

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<v Speaker 2>young girl, you know, listening to this story before you

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<v Speaker 2>fall asleep, like, it goes in pretty deeply.

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<v Speaker 1>My brother was calling me names and trying to hit me.

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<v Speaker 1>Your brother was telling you stories of alien abductions.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, well we had the book in the house, right,

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<v Speaker 2>we had the Interrupted Journey is the name of the book. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>we haven't been clearly we didn't buy it, but we

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<v Speaker 2>had the book in the house.

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<v Speaker 1>So okay, I just want to say the difference between

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<v Speaker 1>our households. You had the Interrupted Journey in your household.

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<v Speaker 1>My household was irma bombback if life is a bullet,

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<v Speaker 1>Harry's what am I doing in the pits?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? We had that one.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh did you? Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe everybody had them time lifebooks. I have known.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever they were, they were like the popular ones. So

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<v Speaker 1>here's just a quick background on Barney and Betty, just

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<v Speaker 1>so everybody has at the beginning of their story. So

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<v Speaker 1>they were married couple and living in Newport News, Virginia.

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<v Speaker 1>Barney Hill Junior was born in nineteen twenty two and

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<v Speaker 1>Betty was born in nineteen nineteen. And the other thing

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<v Speaker 1>is they were a mixed race couple, which I love,

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<v Speaker 1>And they had a cute wier dog. Because I have

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<v Speaker 1>a picture of them in front of me. So Barney was.

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<v Speaker 2>A pretty famous photo, right is it great? Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a very.

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<v Speaker 1>Famous and it's a long haired winter dog. It looks like,

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<v Speaker 1>is it a wiener dog? Yeah? It is long haired,

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<v Speaker 1>it's fat, so it's a winner dog. So Barney, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I've ever met a wiener dog. Here's the thing I

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<v Speaker 1>really identify with wiener dogs. They have short legs and

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<v Speaker 1>they kind of have a round body. And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I see you, wiener dog.

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<v Speaker 2>We had a dogson growing up too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I understand their little short legs. So Barney

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<v Speaker 1>was a postal worker and a civil rights activist, and

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<v Speaker 1>Betty was a social worker and a civil rights advocate herself.

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<v Speaker 1>So just so just to give like a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a little color commentary about who these.

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<v Speaker 2>Are and the regular people like they they're so regular. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they're just having their life right.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Okay, So uh, if you guys don't mind, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to do a tiny bit, you know, like you

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<v Speaker 1>did my reading that I don't do very well, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'll obviously words wrong, so we can all laugh. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is just so it has a resources is Wikipedia,

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<v Speaker 1>so you can follow along. So, according to a variety

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<v Speaker 1>of reports given by the Hills, the alleged UFO sighting

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<v Speaker 1>happened about ten thirty pm September nineteenth, nineteen sixty one.

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<v Speaker 1>And why this is so important is that so many

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<v Speaker 1>of these UFO reports happened in the fifties and sixties.

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<v Speaker 1>These were the ones who came forward. I believe quite

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<v Speaker 1>possibly the most famous one. Brand is that fair like

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<v Speaker 1>of this time that came forward their story. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>the hell, they had a book, they had a TV

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<v Speaker 1>movie made. I mean well, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, without a doubt it was. It took a while

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<v Speaker 2>for them to recover the memories and to get it

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<v Speaker 2>published and to be verified and poked and prodded, and

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<v Speaker 2>they went through all kinds of testing before their story

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<v Speaker 2>go could come forward. So it was not like a, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>this happened, let's write a story or a book, because

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't even remember it for a long time. So right,

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<v Speaker 2>So anyhow, I just want to I want to make

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<v Speaker 2>sure people, like today, something happens, and you know the

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<v Speaker 2>book is out the next month.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, something happens and it's on Twitter. Remember I

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<v Speaker 1>don't call it because I call it by it's dead name.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't call people who's transitioned by their dead name,

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<v Speaker 1>but I do call the social network that has transitioned

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<v Speaker 1>by its dead name.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, but I do think that's an important piece.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I do too, I do too. This is it's

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<v Speaker 1>an amazing story. I need to go watch the movie. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a TV movie that was made about it that

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<v Speaker 1>I will share once I get to it. Okay, So,

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<v Speaker 1>so to your point, the Hills were driving back to

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<v Speaker 1>Portsmith from a vacation in Niagara Falls and Montreal, just

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<v Speaker 1>south of Lancaster, New Hampster. For my wife. Betty claimed

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<v Speaker 1>to have observed a bright point of light in the

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<v Speaker 1>sky that move from below the Moon and the planet Jupiter.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, speaking of Jupiter, right there.

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<v Speaker 1>Upward to the west of the Moon. While Barney navigated

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<v Speaker 1>US Route three, Betty reasoned, I love that. Betty reasoned

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<v Speaker 1>that she was observing a falling star, only it moved upward.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's technically falling if it goes up

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<v Speaker 1>or is that like, oh, those people who fail upward?

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<v Speaker 1>You know those people somehow it worked, they fail upward.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like that's what she saw. We all know that

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<v Speaker 1>she saw a white guy failing upward by the moon.

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<v Speaker 1>Because it moved erradically and grew bigger and brighter. Betty

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<v Speaker 1>urged Barney to stop the car for a closer look,

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<v Speaker 1>as well as to walk their dog, Delcey, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>wiener dog. Barney stopped at a scenic picnic area just

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<v Speaker 1>north of Twin Mountain Betty, looking through binoculars, observed an

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<v Speaker 1>odd shaped craft flashing multi colored lights travel across the

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<v Speaker 1>face of the moon. Okay, how cool would that be?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just going to say.

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<v Speaker 2>Out loud, it'd be amazing and terrifying and terrifying because

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<v Speaker 2>they lost track of it eventually. Right, it's just so cool. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's very cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Barney observed what he reasoned was a commercial airliner traveling

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<v Speaker 1>toward Vermont on its way to Montreal. However, he soon

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<v Speaker 1>changed his mind because, with outlooking as if it had turned,

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<v Speaker 1>the craft rapidly descended in his direction. This observation caused

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<v Speaker 1>Barney to realize this object that was a plane was

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<v Speaker 1>not a plane. Doesn't that sound like nineteen sixty one?

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<v Speaker 1>I reckon this is not a plane.

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<v Speaker 2>But as Alice though, is so interesting because the how

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<v Speaker 2>innocent your mind will tell stories, right, your mind just

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<v Speaker 2>trying to make sense of what you're seeing that It's like,

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<v Speaker 2>this doesn't fit my picture, so I'm going to fill

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<v Speaker 2>in with this information that's completely irrelevant and a holy crap.

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<v Speaker 1>Holy crap, it's aliens. Yeah, hilarious, The hill said. They

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<v Speaker 1>continue driving on the quiet and isolated road, moving very

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<v Speaker 1>slowly through Franconia Notch, in order to observe the object

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<v Speaker 1>as it came even closer. Okay, by the way, don't

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<v Speaker 1>you supposed to go the other way? Like? Did they

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<v Speaker 1>not watch the babysitter like movies where it's like, if

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<v Speaker 1>somebody's at the door, don't go up the stairs kind

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<v Speaker 1>of shit. It's like, didn't they didn't?

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<v Speaker 2>Again, they alien abductions were not the thing. They weren't

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<v Speaker 2>published in newspapers. You know, it was not a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Totally fair, but we all know, don't go upstairs at

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<v Speaker 1>one point. At one point, the object passed above a

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<v Speaker 1>restaurant and signal tower on top of Cannon Mountain and

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<v Speaker 1>came out near the old Man of the mountain. They

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<v Speaker 1>testified that it was at least one and a half

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<v Speaker 1>times the length of the granite cliff profile, which was

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<v Speaker 1>forty feet long, and that it seemed to be rotating. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's freaky as shit. The couple watched as the silent,

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<v Speaker 1>illuminated craft moved erratically and bounced back and forth in

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<v Speaker 1>the night sky.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, this is the other thing I would add at

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<v Speaker 2>this point. You know now they didn't have this these stories,

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<v Speaker 2>but also you know that the stories would be Aliens

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<v Speaker 2>can well most of us would like run the other way.

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<v Speaker 2>They can mask your minds processing so that you're like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh this is interesting and you just very become very compliant.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what people say. That's what they say in interviews

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<v Speaker 2>and things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they trick the shit out of you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like that's one way say, speaking of tricking us,

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<v Speaker 2>we should probably take a break.

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<v Speaker 1>Crap, I think they als have been tricking us. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna take an alien break, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Bring us back to that night in nineteen sixty one, which.

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<v Speaker 1>I am now officially unmasked. Okay, about one mile south

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<v Speaker 1>of Indian Head. They said, the object rapidly descended toward

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<v Speaker 1>their vehicle, causing Barney to stop in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>the highway. The huge silent craft hovered about eighty to

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred feet above the hills nineteen fifty seven Chevrolet

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<v Speaker 1>bell Air Nice Choice by the Way Hills, and filled

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<v Speaker 1>the entire field of view in the windshield Okay, that's

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<v Speaker 1>just so cool. It reminded Barney of a huge pancake. Okay, Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I want pancakes carrying his pistol in his pocket. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>come on, you got a pistol. Okay, Just everybody knows.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have to go any further. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>you can shoot an alien. It's going to do anything.

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<v Speaker 2>So for the record, he's a black man traveling in

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<v Speaker 2>the northeast.

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<v Speaker 1>He should have a pistol in his pocket. Or he

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<v Speaker 1>was just happy to see Betty. So, Okay, took you

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<v Speaker 1>a minute, didn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>I did.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what I'm hopped up. I told you earlier.

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<v Speaker 1>I am super hopped up on musin XD right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, not a paid endorsement.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, you got a snort. That was one

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<v Speaker 1>snort joke. That was good. Okay, it reminded Barney of

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<v Speaker 1>a huge pancake. I want pancakes. Still his pistol in

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<v Speaker 1>his pocket. He was happy to see Betty. Okay. He

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<v Speaker 1>stepped away from the vehicle and moved closer to the object.

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<v Speaker 1>Using the binoculars. Barney claimed to have seen eight to

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<v Speaker 1>eleven humanoid figures. Now, Brenda, to your point, earlier. They

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<v Speaker 1>did not use the word humanoid back then. This has

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<v Speaker 1>been rewritten for Wikipedia, not the language, but it's for

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<v Speaker 1>today exactly right. So he sees eight to eleven humanoid

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<v Speaker 1>figures who were peering out the craft's windows, seeming to

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<v Speaker 1>look at him in unison. All but one figure moved

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<v Speaker 1>to what appeared to be a panel on the rear

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<v Speaker 1>wall of the hallway that encircled the front portion of

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<v Speaker 1>the craft. The one remaining figure continued to look at

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<v Speaker 1>Barney and communicated a message telling him to stay where

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<v Speaker 1>you are and keep looking. That's eerie and awesome. Barney

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<v Speaker 1>had a recollection of observing of observing the humanoid forms

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<v Speaker 1>wearing glossy black uniforms and black caps, red lights on

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<v Speaker 1>what appeared to be bat wing Okay, they said, bat wing.

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<v Speaker 1>Bat Wing fins begin to telescope out of the site

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<v Speaker 1>of the craft, and a long structure descended from the

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<v Speaker 1>bottom of the craft. The silent craft approach to what

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<v Speaker 1>Barney estimated was within fifty to eighty feet overhead and

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<v Speaker 1>three hundred feet away from him. On October twenty first,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty one, Barney reported to National Investigations Committee on

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<v Speaker 1>Aerial phenomena and I CICAP, so NICAP investigator Walter Webb

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<v Speaker 1>that the beings were somehow not human.

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<v Speaker 2>Dun da, duh, Well this would have been so unheard of, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, this was It's not that there hadn't been

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<v Speaker 2>other alien sightings, but they weren't shared publicly, like they

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<v Speaker 2>were shared in families, or they were shared in tribes

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<v Speaker 2>or part of lore or.

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<v Speaker 1>Area fifty one kind of thing which was not personal.

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<v Speaker 1>When was area personal? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but this was this was very unusual, right, Okay, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So do you mind if I continue on with the

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<v Speaker 1>immediate aftermath?

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<v Speaker 2>No, go ahead, Okay, Well, I just would want to

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<v Speaker 2>say when I just think for them to come forward

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<v Speaker 2>in something like this in such a public way, like

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<v Speaker 2>in interviews in a book and to be tested and all,

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<v Speaker 2>this is again just unheard of.

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<v Speaker 1>And the bi racial couple, I just want to keep

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<v Speaker 1>adding that because that's right. It's like, that's like if

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<v Speaker 1>Suzanne and I had this happened to us in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>sixty one and we came forward as this is a

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<v Speaker 1>lesbian couple, Like that's scary.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So it's it's on top of on top of yes, breakthrough,

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<v Speaker 2>it's breakthrough it is. I like that, okay, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And I like them a lot. I'm just going to

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<v Speaker 1>say if they if they were here today, I would

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<v Speaker 1>want to be their friends. Okay. So this is the

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<v Speaker 1>immediate aftermath. Arriving home at a about dawn, the Hills

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<v Speaker 1>stated that they had some odd sensations and impulses they

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<v Speaker 1>couldnot readily explain. Betty insisted their luggage be kept near

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<v Speaker 1>the rear back door rather than in the main part

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<v Speaker 1>of the house. I don't understand that, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just reading that. The rest of it makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Their watches would never work again. Barney said that the

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<v Speaker 1>leather strap for the binoculars was torn, though he could

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<v Speaker 1>not recall it tearing. The toes of his best dress

0:20:31.240 --> 0:20:36.119
<v Speaker 1>shoes were scraped. Barney says he was compelled to examine

0:20:36.119 --> 0:20:39.520
<v Speaker 1>his genitals in the bathroom, though he found nothing unusual.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not unusual. The arn't men always checking the junk out?

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<v Speaker 2>I think not an expert in that? Stay in my lane?

0:20:49.640 --> 0:20:51.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, did you think I'm an expert in that?

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<v Speaker 1>I have two human eyes? I watched them like, move past,

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<v Speaker 1>look in the bear do whatever. I mean? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's all I'm saying they took, oh, they took long showers,

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<v Speaker 1>not because of his junk, but to remove possible contamination,

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<v Speaker 1>and each drew a picture of what they had observed.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to see those pictures.

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<v Speaker 2>They're in the book.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, we need to we need to we need to

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<v Speaker 1>do part three and actually go through the pictures and

0:21:22.920 --> 0:21:27.760
<v Speaker 1>describe them. None of its junk. Okay. Perplexed, they'll say

0:21:27.880 --> 0:21:32.800
<v Speaker 1>they tried to reconstruct the chronology of events as they

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<v Speaker 1>witnessed the UFO and drove home, but immediately after they

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<v Speaker 1>heard the buzzing sounds, their memories became incomplete and fragmented. Now, y'all,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just going to like just kind of tell you

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<v Speaker 1>what next week episode it's going to be. It's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be a lot more detail of you know, in the

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<v Speaker 1>last sixty years of what people have reported, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>not different from this. This is why we wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>start with this story. Okay. After sleeping for a few hours,

0:21:58.760 --> 0:22:01.680
<v Speaker 1>Betty awoke and place the shoes and clothing she had

0:22:01.760 --> 0:22:05.399
<v Speaker 1>worn worn during the drive in her closet, observing that

0:22:05.480 --> 0:22:09.160
<v Speaker 1>the dress was torn at the hem zipper and lightning. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do a pause because you thought, or you

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<v Speaker 1>thought you heard when you were seven years old that

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<v Speaker 1>her dress was on backwards? Is that right? Do you

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<v Speaker 1>think it was?

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<v Speaker 2>That's what that was my recollection. But again I was

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<v Speaker 2>I was nine, so I could yea.

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<v Speaker 1>In my head, no matter what the truth is, her

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<v Speaker 1>dress was on backwards. I'm just saying that, okay. But later,

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<v Speaker 1>when she retrieved the items from her closet, she noted

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<v Speaker 1>a pinkish powder on her dress. She hung the dress

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<v Speaker 1>on her clothesline, and the pink powder blew away, but

0:22:48.080 --> 0:22:53.320
<v Speaker 1>the dress was irreparably damaged. She threw it away, but

0:22:53.359 --> 0:22:56.720
<v Speaker 1>then changed her mind, retrieving the dress and hung it

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<v Speaker 1>in her closet. Over the years, five laboratories have conducted

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<v Speaker 1>chemical and forensic analysis on the dress. They don't tell

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<v Speaker 1>us anymore about the dress.

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<v Speaker 2>We have.

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<v Speaker 1>I have so many questions, so many questions. There were shiny,

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<v Speaker 1>concentric circles on the car's trunk that had not been

0:23:16.000 --> 0:23:20.760
<v Speaker 1>there the previous day. Betty and Barney experimented with a compass,

0:23:20.960 --> 0:23:23.440
<v Speaker 1>noting that when they moved it close to the spots,

0:23:24.000 --> 0:23:28.840
<v Speaker 1>the needle would whirl rapidly, but when they moved it

0:23:28.960 --> 0:23:31.720
<v Speaker 1>back a few inches away from the shiny spots, it

0:23:31.760 --> 0:23:36.919
<v Speaker 1>would drop down. That's that section. By the way, that

0:23:36.920 --> 0:23:39.919
<v Speaker 1>that pause that was an end to that section.

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<v Speaker 2>That's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so yes, go ahead. I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>I just appreciate how they're like not trying to make

0:23:47.520 --> 0:23:50.840
<v Speaker 2>it overly dramatic. They seem like very rational people, totally

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<v Speaker 2>like trying to figure out what happened, but also aware

0:23:54.240 --> 0:23:56.240
<v Speaker 2>of the quirkiness, like well, at first I put the

0:23:56.320 --> 0:23:58.679
<v Speaker 2>dress up over here, and then I didn't want it

0:23:58.720 --> 0:24:01.879
<v Speaker 2>over that, you know, like like just aware of some

0:24:01.960 --> 0:24:04.120
<v Speaker 2>stuff that doesn't make any sense of how she's operating.

0:24:04.119 --> 0:24:06.640
<v Speaker 2>She's aware of it at least to document it.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, right. No, they seem like normal human beings or

0:24:11.119 --> 0:24:14.680
<v Speaker 1>normal humanoids whatever you want to call them.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, except for the alien visits.

0:24:17.280 --> 0:24:22.440
<v Speaker 1>Except for the aliens, they're normal. So I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>do this next part kind of fast, but it's actually

0:24:25.359 --> 0:24:31.520
<v Speaker 1>quite important, is so. Walter Walter Webb, who I mentioned earlier,

0:24:34.119 --> 0:24:36.479
<v Speaker 1>met with the Hills on October twenty first in nineteen

0:24:36.520 --> 0:24:39.840
<v Speaker 1>sixty one. In a six hour interview, the Hills related

0:24:39.880 --> 0:24:43.480
<v Speaker 1>all they could remember of the UFO encounter. Barney stated

0:24:43.600 --> 0:24:46.040
<v Speaker 1>that he had developed a mental block, and that he

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<v Speaker 1>suspected there were some portions of the event that he

0:24:49.320 --> 0:24:51.760
<v Speaker 1>did not wish to remember. I mean that all that

0:24:51.880 --> 0:24:57.400
<v Speaker 1>tracks right. He described in detail all that he could

0:24:57.400 --> 0:25:00.720
<v Speaker 1>remember about the craft and the appearance of these somehow

0:25:00.760 --> 0:25:03.320
<v Speaker 1>not human figures aboard it. I think that's what they

0:25:03.480 --> 0:25:06.760
<v Speaker 1>used brand. That's back to the term humanoid. I think

0:25:06.800 --> 0:25:10.320
<v Speaker 1>they he what he said, because it's in parentheses is

0:25:10.359 --> 0:25:14.320
<v Speaker 1>somehow not human. Web stated that they were telling the

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<v Speaker 1>truth and the incident probably occurred exactly as reported, except

0:25:18.640 --> 0:25:21.960
<v Speaker 1>for some minor uncertainties and technicalities that must be tolerated

0:25:21.960 --> 0:25:27.679
<v Speaker 1>any such observation where human judgment is is involved. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think the other really big thing that happened with

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<v Speaker 1>this was actually Betty's dreams, because you recalled from when

0:25:35.200 --> 0:25:42.160
<v Speaker 1>new you were nine, random, random nine year old, WHICHIFO

0:25:43.280 --> 0:25:52.320
<v Speaker 1>actually recalled that that Betty had night terrors, which is

0:25:52.320 --> 0:25:52.760
<v Speaker 1>I think.

0:25:52.600 --> 0:25:54.639
<v Speaker 2>They both did, but I think her started first.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think they did so. So ten days after

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<v Speaker 1>the alleged uphone came, Betty began having a series of

0:26:02.200 --> 0:26:07.320
<v Speaker 1>vivid dreams which continued for five consecutive nights. Am I

0:26:07.400 --> 0:26:12.639
<v Speaker 1>having all my wacky dreams because of Betty, Betty, I

0:26:12.680 --> 0:26:16.199
<v Speaker 1>feel you, sister. She stated that she experienced them with

0:26:16.240 --> 0:26:20.600
<v Speaker 1>a degree of denial and intensity detailed not denial. Detail

0:26:20.760 --> 0:26:24.800
<v Speaker 1>is funny mine's denial detail and intensity that she had

0:26:24.840 --> 0:26:28.040
<v Speaker 1>never that she had never had before. After the fifth night,

0:26:28.200 --> 0:26:32.080
<v Speaker 1>they stopped and never recurred, though they occupied her thoughts

0:26:32.200 --> 0:26:34.840
<v Speaker 1>during the day. When she mentioned them to Barney, he

0:26:34.920 --> 0:26:38.400
<v Speaker 1>was sympathetic but not too concerned, and the matter was dropped.

0:26:38.640 --> 0:26:41.800
<v Speaker 1>Betty did not mention them to Barney again. In November

0:26:41.840 --> 0:26:44.600
<v Speaker 1>of nineteen sixty one, Betty began writing down the details

0:26:44.600 --> 0:26:48.160
<v Speaker 1>of her dreams, and one dream she and Barney encountered

0:26:48.200 --> 0:26:52.200
<v Speaker 1>a roadblock and men who surrounded their car. She lost

0:26:52.240 --> 0:26:55.679
<v Speaker 1>consciousness but struggled to regain it. Then she realized that

0:26:55.720 --> 0:26:58.520
<v Speaker 1>she was being forced by two small men to walk

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<v Speaker 1>in a forest at night, end of seeing Barney walking

0:27:01.680 --> 0:27:04.359
<v Speaker 1>behind her, though when she called to him he seemed

0:27:04.400 --> 0:27:08.120
<v Speaker 1>to be in a trance or sleepwalking. PS. Important note

0:27:08.480 --> 0:27:15.280
<v Speaker 1>that has been absolutely documented with cases after this where

0:27:15.359 --> 0:27:17.560
<v Speaker 1>a loved one a spouse would be put into a

0:27:17.640 --> 0:27:21.680
<v Speaker 1>trance while they took the other spouse with them. Just ps. Everybody.

0:27:22.119 --> 0:27:24.760
<v Speaker 1>The men stood about five feet and five four inches

0:27:24.800 --> 0:27:31.159
<v Speaker 1>so that's my heightfuckers, and were matching blue uniforms I

0:27:31.160 --> 0:27:33.359
<v Speaker 1>don't do that, with caps similar to those worn by

0:27:33.400 --> 0:27:37.800
<v Speaker 1>military cadets. They appeared nearly human, with black hair, dark eyes,

0:27:38.160 --> 0:27:42.240
<v Speaker 1>prominent noses, and bluish lips. Their skin was a grayish

0:27:42.280 --> 0:27:47.840
<v Speaker 1>color the grays. The Grays were hiding in plain sight.

0:27:48.320 --> 0:27:51.000
<v Speaker 1>She and Barney were taken to their car, where the

0:27:51.080 --> 0:27:54.840
<v Speaker 1>leaders suggested that they wait to watch the craft's departure.

0:27:55.160 --> 0:27:59.439
<v Speaker 1>They did so and then resumed their drive home. All right,

0:27:59.480 --> 0:28:01.080
<v Speaker 1>want to take them the break and let's come back

0:28:01.080 --> 0:28:04.000
<v Speaker 1>a talks form like, well, I'm done reading y'all for now.

0:28:04.680 --> 0:28:18.280
<v Speaker 2>Oh gosh, it's such a yeah, okay.

0:28:13.840 --> 0:28:17.520
<v Speaker 1>Okay, y'all, we're back. Brenda was exploding when I went

0:28:17.680 --> 0:28:21.560
<v Speaker 1>to break and I apologized profusely to the wishy poop.

0:28:21.920 --> 0:28:24.080
<v Speaker 1>But you hit it, sister, go what do you want

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<v Speaker 1>to say?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's just like this, there's so much right in there,

0:28:29.480 --> 0:28:31.880
<v Speaker 2>so many elements of their story that we hear over

0:28:31.920 --> 0:28:36.520
<v Speaker 2>and over today. But knowing that this is, you know,

0:28:37.040 --> 0:28:39.640
<v Speaker 2>one of the first times it came so public, and

0:28:39.960 --> 0:28:44.640
<v Speaker 2>to have it I goed back so many times. Although

0:28:44.760 --> 0:28:47.600
<v Speaker 2>I will say it seems like they have like this, this, this,

0:28:47.760 --> 0:28:50.360
<v Speaker 2>like they have all the points hit where a lot

0:28:50.360 --> 0:28:52.959
<v Speaker 2>of other people will only have one or two of them.

0:28:53.200 --> 0:28:56.040
<v Speaker 2>So it seems like a very extended and it's literally

0:28:56.040 --> 0:28:58.280
<v Speaker 2>called the interrupted journey. Do you remember like they lost

0:28:58.320 --> 0:28:59.280
<v Speaker 2>eight hours.

0:28:59.040 --> 0:29:01.520
<v Speaker 1>Or something like that, but for many.

0:29:01.280 --> 0:29:04.080
<v Speaker 2>People will you know, more like three hours?

0:29:04.520 --> 0:29:07.440
<v Speaker 1>Right, but loss of time is the number one commonality

0:29:07.480 --> 0:29:10.880
<v Speaker 1>of people who have been abducted. And I think what

0:29:11.000 --> 0:29:13.560
<v Speaker 1>is really interesting too, and this is, you know what

0:29:13.600 --> 0:29:16.200
<v Speaker 1>you first said to me when you sent me the

0:29:16.280 --> 0:29:19.280
<v Speaker 1>podcast that we're going to do a podcast about is

0:29:19.280 --> 0:29:25.680
<v Speaker 1>the meta podcast. We're in the metaverse, everybody is. It

0:29:25.720 --> 0:29:30.160
<v Speaker 1>was really the classifications of what this guy has kind

0:29:30.200 --> 0:29:34.120
<v Speaker 1>of surmised of the different alien forms. And one of

0:29:34.160 --> 0:29:38.800
<v Speaker 1>them he are the grays, so he calls them humanoid

0:29:38.880 --> 0:29:43.000
<v Speaker 1>and shape, short, bald. They can be skinny, pale, large,

0:29:43.080 --> 0:29:46.320
<v Speaker 1>dark eyes, so we heard dark eyes with this last,

0:29:46.640 --> 0:29:49.760
<v Speaker 1>right and short. Apparently I'm the size of a gray alien.

0:29:52.720 --> 0:29:56.479
<v Speaker 1>The second one was is the category is human looking

0:29:57.720 --> 0:30:00.400
<v Speaker 1>so like genetically to date is what they call it.

0:30:00.800 --> 0:30:04.440
<v Speaker 2>They call it human noids, right, No, it's so weird.

0:30:04.600 --> 0:30:07.120
<v Speaker 2>It's human noise? Are the ones in the.

0:30:07.120 --> 0:30:15.320
<v Speaker 1>Jumpsuits yeah, yes, they're There are another just categories humanoids,

0:30:15.400 --> 0:30:19.400
<v Speaker 1>but this one, but I think yes, jumpsuits. Yes, they're

0:30:19.440 --> 0:30:23.480
<v Speaker 1>genetically perfect and they were I took notes, I didn't readdown.

0:30:25.040 --> 0:30:28.640
<v Speaker 2>Come on, that's awesome, that's.

0:30:28.000 --> 0:30:32.160
<v Speaker 1>What a gray would do. Okay. The third one is

0:30:32.480 --> 0:30:35.480
<v Speaker 1>nine foot tall looking praying mantises.

0:30:36.320 --> 0:30:37.640
<v Speaker 2>Pray praying mantis?

0:30:37.720 --> 0:30:39.680
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I said, is for plural?

0:30:40.440 --> 0:30:43.160
<v Speaker 2>Yes? So why do you think they would choose that

0:30:43.240 --> 0:30:46.560
<v Speaker 2>for an insect? Yeah?

0:30:46.760 --> 0:30:48.280
<v Speaker 1>Fuck? If I know? What do you think? Do you

0:30:48.320 --> 0:30:48.960
<v Speaker 1>have an answer?

0:30:49.920 --> 0:30:52.479
<v Speaker 2>I just think I just think it's a very poor choice.

0:30:52.840 --> 0:30:58.200
<v Speaker 2>Bad marketing, bad alien marketing, bad alien marketing. I don't understand.

0:30:58.480 --> 0:31:02.040
<v Speaker 1>I wonder you know what's interesting? I okay, So it's

0:31:02.080 --> 0:31:05.760
<v Speaker 1>so funny that we're talking about this. My cousin, Matthew,

0:31:06.040 --> 0:31:10.880
<v Speaker 1>was just in town and we were talking about amber specimens,

0:31:11.200 --> 0:31:13.960
<v Speaker 1>and I have a piece of amber that has a

0:31:14.080 --> 0:31:17.920
<v Speaker 1>full praying mantis in it, and those things are hundreds

0:31:17.920 --> 0:31:19.960
<v Speaker 1>of millions of years old. I wonder if they took

0:31:20.000 --> 0:31:25.480
<v Speaker 1>an early form. Maybe, Hey man, I was just trying

0:31:25.520 --> 0:31:28.160
<v Speaker 1>to make a connection here with my cousins. Is an

0:31:28.200 --> 0:31:33.600
<v Speaker 1>amber because I's old, that is old, Amber's old, right,

0:31:33.640 --> 0:31:37.240
<v Speaker 1>and so It's like there's just a piece of history

0:31:37.280 --> 0:31:37.480
<v Speaker 1>in this.

0:31:37.960 --> 0:31:41.600
<v Speaker 2>So if you meet an alien praying mantis, you should

0:31:41.600 --> 0:31:44.440
<v Speaker 2>just say you need to update your software.

0:31:44.800 --> 0:31:46.600
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. Well, here's the other thing fun about

0:31:46.600 --> 0:31:49.000
<v Speaker 1>praying mantis. Don't they eat their mate?

0:31:49.280 --> 0:31:50.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the females do.

0:31:51.080 --> 0:31:52.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I kind of like them.

0:31:53.720 --> 0:31:59.280
<v Speaker 2>Well, we know that the grays are you know, they're sterile, right,

0:31:59.320 --> 0:32:01.640
<v Speaker 2>that's one of the things they're worried about is reproduction.

0:32:01.760 --> 0:32:04.160
<v Speaker 2>Maybe praying mantis are having the same problems if they're

0:32:04.200 --> 0:32:05.040
<v Speaker 2>eating all their meats.

0:32:04.920 --> 0:32:09.600
<v Speaker 1>Or the praygmantises are eating the what was once reproductive grays.

0:32:10.320 --> 0:32:16.120
<v Speaker 1>Alien wars. Okay, the other one we are office. The

0:32:16.160 --> 0:32:19.480
<v Speaker 1>fourth one, y'all are welcome because we're having a ball.

0:32:19.520 --> 0:32:22.560
<v Speaker 1>We hope the hell you are too. The fourth one,

0:32:23.240 --> 0:32:27.960
<v Speaker 1>less common is the reptilian. We've seen a lot of

0:32:28.000 --> 0:32:29.880
<v Speaker 1>movies with those kind of reptilian like an aliens, but

0:32:29.920 --> 0:32:32.440
<v Speaker 1>apparently that one's not terribly common. The fifth categories like

0:32:32.480 --> 0:32:35.120
<v Speaker 1>a catch all, you know, And that's what they call

0:32:35.480 --> 0:32:38.720
<v Speaker 1>They just call them strange humanoids that can be from

0:32:38.840 --> 0:32:43.600
<v Speaker 1>dwarfs to tall bright beings is what they call that.

0:32:43.680 --> 0:32:45.920
<v Speaker 1>But the thing is with all of them, I guess

0:32:45.920 --> 0:32:49.400
<v Speaker 1>with the exception of a praying mantis is they still

0:32:49.440 --> 0:32:52.400
<v Speaker 1>have like two arms two let well, praymantis has two

0:32:52.440 --> 0:32:54.600
<v Speaker 1>arms and two legs. I think that's what they mean

0:32:54.640 --> 0:32:56.920
<v Speaker 1>by humanoid. Like if you look at a gray and

0:32:57.200 --> 0:32:59.400
<v Speaker 1>I have a photograph of one. If you look at

0:32:59.440 --> 0:33:03.360
<v Speaker 1>a gray it but it has all the parts, right,

0:33:03.480 --> 0:33:08.840
<v Speaker 1>It has the head, the eyes, it has armed legs, torso.

0:33:09.160 --> 0:33:15.240
<v Speaker 1>And I think that's humid always kind of a umbrella. Yeah.

0:33:15.280 --> 0:33:19.280
<v Speaker 2>Well, and I do think there's an element where we

0:33:19.400 --> 0:33:22.000
<v Speaker 2>all have an experience of like seeing something like that

0:33:22.080 --> 0:33:25.320
<v Speaker 2>person is a little off, you know, but you just

0:33:25.400 --> 0:33:27.960
<v Speaker 2>kind of go on your way. You don't usually get

0:33:27.960 --> 0:33:31.360
<v Speaker 2>to upset by it, you know, because there's there's usually

0:33:31.360 --> 0:33:32.760
<v Speaker 2>like a veiled component.

0:33:33.640 --> 0:33:37.719
<v Speaker 1>Totally, yeah, totally, Okay, So there here's the list. So

0:33:37.760 --> 0:33:40.000
<v Speaker 1>I want to hit these high point lists. That sets

0:33:40.080 --> 0:33:41.760
<v Speaker 1>us up for when we come back next week.

0:33:42.440 --> 0:33:42.760
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

0:33:42.840 --> 0:33:46.840
<v Speaker 1>The other list is and we'll start again with this

0:33:46.960 --> 0:33:53.760
<v Speaker 1>next week. Are the markers of those that have been abducted.

0:33:55.320 --> 0:34:00.960
<v Speaker 1>The one that is I think unanimous, but it's is

0:34:01.040 --> 0:34:05.080
<v Speaker 1>missing time, right. Missing time is like holy shit, And

0:34:05.120 --> 0:34:07.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't mean missing time like you're cooking and it's

0:34:07.120 --> 0:34:09.080
<v Speaker 1>two hours later because you're having fun making when you're

0:34:09.280 --> 0:34:11.960
<v Speaker 1>throwing pottery, and this is not missing time. This is

0:34:12.040 --> 0:34:17.040
<v Speaker 1>missing time like what three hours eight hours?

0:34:17.760 --> 0:34:19.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you look at your clock and you're like, wait,

0:34:19.920 --> 0:34:22.960
<v Speaker 2>I haven't done anything. I haven't moved. What the hell

0:34:23.080 --> 0:34:25.279
<v Speaker 2>was I doing for three hours? Five hours? What it

0:34:25.320 --> 0:34:30.239
<v Speaker 2>was like, Like, why is the sundown kind of situation? Right? What?

0:34:30.280 --> 0:34:31.160
<v Speaker 2>That like? Wow?

0:34:31.400 --> 0:34:31.920
<v Speaker 1>Major? Right?

0:34:32.120 --> 0:34:33.880
<v Speaker 2>And some people will actually have a little bit of

0:34:33.920 --> 0:34:37.320
<v Speaker 2>a hangover. Oh like and I think it's a disorientation.

0:34:37.800 --> 0:34:40.279
<v Speaker 2>Oh that makes sense, right, Yeah, Like it's just like

0:34:41.040 --> 0:34:42.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm not really sure what happened.

0:34:43.040 --> 0:34:47.680
<v Speaker 1>That makes sense though. Yeah. They also have mysterious scars.

0:34:48.160 --> 0:34:50.360
<v Speaker 1>There's a story that was told in the podcast about

0:34:50.360 --> 0:34:53.280
<v Speaker 1>a guy who had like a like a two inch

0:34:53.840 --> 0:34:57.840
<v Speaker 1>red triangle kind of burned on his skin from his abduction.

0:34:58.840 --> 0:35:05.560
<v Speaker 1>They have injuries. They could also have healings. They can

0:35:07.040 --> 0:35:10.680
<v Speaker 1>see you want to say something about healings. You don't

0:35:10.680 --> 0:35:13.239
<v Speaker 1>want to say something about healings. Brenda does not want

0:35:13.239 --> 0:35:14.520
<v Speaker 1>to say anything about healings.

0:35:15.560 --> 0:35:17.279
<v Speaker 2>Well, I was just gonna say, like, they're not like

0:35:17.800 --> 0:35:20.160
<v Speaker 2>I have a little booboo and now it's gone. It's

0:35:20.200 --> 0:35:25.479
<v Speaker 2>like cancer and cancer, cancer's gone. Some situation that would

0:35:25.480 --> 0:35:27.960
<v Speaker 2>have required surgery is no longer there, like AIDS.

0:35:28.040 --> 0:35:30.560
<v Speaker 1>By the way, there's a case I heard of AIDS

0:35:30.719 --> 0:35:32.799
<v Speaker 1>that somebody was abducted and they came back and they

0:35:32.800 --> 0:35:37.680
<v Speaker 1>no longer had Yeah, AIDS. They see balls of light.

0:35:39.480 --> 0:35:42.879
<v Speaker 1>That's another thing they have. This is would they come

0:35:42.920 --> 0:35:44.600
<v Speaker 1>out of it right? This isn't why they're in it,

0:35:44.600 --> 0:35:47.440
<v Speaker 1>but they see balls of light afterwards. They also have

0:35:47.600 --> 0:35:54.000
<v Speaker 1>unexplained PTSD, and they have a fear of clowns, which

0:35:54.000 --> 0:35:57.760
<v Speaker 1>we're going to get to next week. Fear of clowns, y'all, Cliff.

0:35:58.000 --> 0:35:59.880
<v Speaker 1>In fact, we might need to call it fear of clowns.

0:36:00.000 --> 0:36:01.600
<v Speaker 1>I think that's what next week episode should be called,

0:36:01.600 --> 0:36:06.359
<v Speaker 1>Fair of Clowns. They also have dreams about UFOs. They

0:36:06.400 --> 0:36:09.000
<v Speaker 1>either have an unusual I.

0:36:08.920 --> 0:36:12.240
<v Speaker 2>Think a lot of times their dreams aren't directly of UFOs,

0:36:12.280 --> 0:36:15.920
<v Speaker 2>but they're like something, something is examining them, but they

0:36:15.920 --> 0:36:19.640
<v Speaker 2>can't necessarily see it, Like it's a distortion as opposed

0:36:19.680 --> 0:36:22.839
<v Speaker 2>to oh, I remember meeting the specific alien and you know,

0:36:22.920 --> 0:36:25.840
<v Speaker 2>their name was Like, it's not that, it's like a

0:36:25.960 --> 0:36:29.440
<v Speaker 2>veiled kind of situation, like their unconsciousness trying to figure

0:36:29.480 --> 0:36:33.160
<v Speaker 2>out part of what happened when perhaps they were.

0:36:33.120 --> 0:36:35.000
<v Speaker 1>Do they have names? If they did, I would like

0:36:35.040 --> 0:36:38.240
<v Speaker 1>to call them Simon just for the record.

0:36:38.719 --> 0:36:40.760
<v Speaker 2>Well you tell them that, if they'd.

0:36:40.360 --> 0:36:41.960
<v Speaker 1>Be like what's you say? And they look at being

0:36:41.960 --> 0:36:43.680
<v Speaker 1>like what the hell you talk about? Like, okay, Simon,

0:36:43.760 --> 0:36:44.120
<v Speaker 1>let's go.

0:36:44.960 --> 0:36:48.479
<v Speaker 2>Well. But the stories I've heard is not that they

0:36:48.760 --> 0:36:56.080
<v Speaker 2>have names, but that they do recognize, you know, aliens

0:36:56.160 --> 0:37:00.000
<v Speaker 2>from oh you're you're that alien? Like they recognize them

0:37:00.160 --> 0:37:02.040
<v Speaker 2>if they've have been repeatedly abducted.

0:37:03.040 --> 0:37:06.879
<v Speaker 1>Hmm. I like that. But we haven't give them a name,

0:37:08.880 --> 0:37:11.440
<v Speaker 1>and they have either you never heard name. Well, like

0:37:11.480 --> 0:37:13.319
<v Speaker 1>I said, I'm going to give them one. So there

0:37:14.200 --> 0:37:20.680
<v Speaker 1>Simon from Uranus, Yes, Simon from my Uranus. So they

0:37:20.719 --> 0:37:26.239
<v Speaker 1>and also people can have either an unusual attraction or

0:37:26.280 --> 0:37:31.200
<v Speaker 1>repulse repulsion to aliens like so that's part of what

0:37:31.280 --> 0:37:33.640
<v Speaker 1>they come back with. And I have to tell everybody

0:37:33.840 --> 0:37:37.400
<v Speaker 1>Like So in the next week, watch a Rival. I

0:37:37.440 --> 0:37:40.160
<v Speaker 1>know we've talked about this movie before. I love it

0:37:40.360 --> 0:37:42.880
<v Speaker 1>so much, You've talked about it. You love that movie Arrival.

0:37:43.160 --> 0:37:44.440
<v Speaker 2>It's one of my favorites.

0:37:45.040 --> 0:37:47.480
<v Speaker 1>I just love it. So watch that.

0:37:49.440 --> 0:37:50.640
<v Speaker 2>Amy Adams is brilliant.

0:37:50.640 --> 0:37:56.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I've loved her in that seriously. Really. Yes, Yeah,

0:37:56.080 --> 0:37:59.560
<v Speaker 1>there's lots of Actually, there's lots of movies about this.

0:38:00.640 --> 0:38:05.240
<v Speaker 1>There's lots of books about obviously about this topic. There

0:38:05.280 --> 0:38:12.120
<v Speaker 1>are stories there are you know, there's there's also I

0:38:12.600 --> 0:38:17.359
<v Speaker 1>read in an article and it was about people on

0:38:17.400 --> 0:38:20.640
<v Speaker 1>the spectrum and it was a list of it was

0:38:21.040 --> 0:38:22.880
<v Speaker 1>it was a list of celebrities that are on the

0:38:23.200 --> 0:38:27.759
<v Speaker 1>autism spectrum and one of them was Dan Ackroyd. And

0:38:27.840 --> 0:38:30.279
<v Speaker 1>he actually claims that part of him being on the

0:38:30.280 --> 0:38:36.400
<v Speaker 1>spectrum is actually his obsession with UFOs and aliens. Interesting,

0:38:36.560 --> 0:38:37.040
<v Speaker 1>isn't it.

0:38:37.880 --> 0:38:39.520
<v Speaker 2>I did not I didn't know any of that.

0:38:39.920 --> 0:38:41.960
<v Speaker 1>I just read it. I read it before you sent

0:38:42.040 --> 0:38:44.000
<v Speaker 1>me this stuff. What the fuck's going on?

0:38:44.560 --> 0:38:51.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Get ready summer Summer Rebelions.

0:38:48.040 --> 0:38:55.440
<v Speaker 1>And okay, okay, so uh we're going to continue this

0:38:57.040 --> 0:38:58.080
<v Speaker 1>and that's all I have to say.

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<v Speaker 1>Two? Yeah? Why not?

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