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Speaker 1: Ackron has just been told by his wife Christy that

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Speaker 1: their two twins, Hannah and Lyle, have died. The two

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Speaker 1: begin their forty five minute drive home. Here's Jared again.

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Speaker 2: She's still sobbing, hysterical and saying she wanted to kill herself.

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Speaker 2: I had to put on the child's safety lock because

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Speaker 2: about her at all. I mean, then when are jumping

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Speaker 2: out of my car? But all I really cared about

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Speaker 2: to hear it, yes, I didn't want to think it anymore.

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Speaker 2: I needed confirmation that, hey, the kids are gone. They

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Speaker 2: died of heart lung problems. And at this point I'm like, okay.

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Speaker 2: It probably took a half hour ride home for her

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Speaker 2: And after she said, I distinctly remember saying okay, and

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Speaker 2: that was the last thing I said. The rest of

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Speaker 2: the right home, we sat in silence, her sobbing. I

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Speaker 2: was more angry, and I guess asking why did this happen?

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Speaker 1: As Jared pulled the pieces together, something's made sense.

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Speaker 2: I think I was more angry at her for no,

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Speaker 2: there was no update of like, where was the downturn me?

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Speaker 1: But other things still.

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Speaker 2: Don't They just don't kill over. I'm sorry. There was

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Speaker 2: a gradual Hey, something happened, the fluids still building it up,

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Speaker 2: from fluid and the lungs, why did they take the

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Speaker 2: tubes out of them? I don't think I wanted to

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Speaker 2: morning and now I'm not. Now I know in a

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Speaker 3: That was what.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't get that through my mind. It just that

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Speaker 2: kind of broke I was feeling.

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Speaker 1: And that was only the beginning. I'm Trishia la Fotch.

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Speaker 1: I'm a writer, director, actor, and federal criminal defense attorney.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you a story that's all too

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Speaker 1: real about love lies and the lengths people will go

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Speaker 1: to for attention. It's a story that will leave you

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Speaker 1: questioning everything you thought you knew about truth, about reality,

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Speaker 1: and about what happens when the two collide in the

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Speaker 1: most unimaginable way. From audio up and just sweet press productions,

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Speaker 1: this is the unborn. What happened that day in the hospital?

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Speaker 1: How did Jared and Christie's twins die? Let's replay the delivery.

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Speaker 1: What we know for certain is that Jared dropped Christy

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Speaker 2: She texts me, Hey, I'm getting into my gown that

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Speaker 2: they're going to do an ultrasound to make sure everything's okay.

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Speaker 2: But they put the heart monitor ultrasound on they couldn't

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Speaker 1: one baby, an infant baby boy, hooked up to tubes.

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Speaker 1: Jared texts what happened, but Christy doesn't answer him in words,

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Speaker 1: rather sends a photo of two babies, still hooked up

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Speaker 2: She told me, hey, put him online.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't post that picture. They speak about it on

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Speaker 1: Christie sends a third picture, two babies, no tubes now.

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Speaker 1: Sometime between seven thirty two am when Jared makes the

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Speaker 1: Now Jared is completely confused. He had a room number,

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Speaker 1: Why didn't the flowers get through? Why is the hospital

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Speaker 4: Call me when you wake up from your snooze. I

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Speaker 4: love you. Did you make it out and know where

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Speaker 4: you're headed. What else from Target? So I can place

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Speaker 1: She then sends Jared a copy of what she ordered

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Speaker 3: Looks good, babe.

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Speaker 2: What he didn't realize at the time was that there

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Speaker 2: the Prices Riot or something. I mean, it wasn't a

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Speaker 2: None of it made no sense.

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Speaker 4: I think it's crappy that when I was talking to

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Speaker 1: This is after Christy has called Jared and told him

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Speaker 4: Are you on your way?

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Speaker 3: What's going on?

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Speaker 4: I will tell you when you get here.

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Speaker 4: Knowing who is Karen Ewing? I need you to come

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Speaker 4: get me.

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Speaker 3: Please, I'm coming, but you need to call me. Chris,

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Speaker 4: I'm checking out. This is serious and we will talk

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Speaker 3: Where do I go emergency?

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Speaker 4: No, hospital side text when you are ten minutes out?

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Speaker 4: No, I'll be coming out with people pulling the roundabout.

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Speaker 2: My mind was reeling at that point. I didn't know

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Speaker 2: I hopped in my car and went and got her.

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Speaker 2: Drove back forty five minutes to the hospital, not knowing

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Speaker 1: returned years later. Jared recounts how they reconnected.

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Speaker 2: I actually ended up sliding her DMS on Facebook. I

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Speaker 1: What did you say?

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Speaker 2: What did I say? It was, Hey, your post have

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Speaker 1: the two acts actually hung out after.

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Speaker 2: We had reconnected at the fair. Then it was Mollie's

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Speaker 2: And he had recently just broke up with his ex girlfriend.

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Speaker 1: Jared and Christy have a very fast romance. She's immediately

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Speaker 3: That you deal with it, that's all. I was happy

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Speaker 2: Was that my parents' farm?

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Speaker 1: When Jared and Christy met, he had just spent every

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Speaker 2: still and have all these people lean on me, and

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Speaker 2: where all I want to do is crumble down. Then

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Speaker 2: my dad shows up and he already knew.

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Speaker 7: My mind immediately goes to questions about different things that

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Speaker 7: kind of didn't make sense to me, but you don't

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Speaker 7: say them out loud, because if you're wrong and say

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Speaker 7: something like that, then you're really a jerk. She sent

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Speaker 7: pictures of the babies and those are healthy babies.

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Speaker 3: Then we don't hear anything for a whole day, and

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Speaker 3: the next.

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Speaker 1: Morning, much like Sarah, Jared's father, David was now very

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Speaker 1: suspicious of what was going on, and just like Sarah,

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Speaker 1: he didn't say anything.

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Speaker 7: That's when we were told and you know, I just

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Speaker 7: you don't say anything. But it didn't add up because

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Speaker 7: at that moment, you're still thinking that something bad happened,

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Speaker 7: but there was there was no reason why what happened.

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Speaker 3: You know, after a couple of.

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Speaker 7: Hours of just standing around and you know, trying to console.

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Speaker 7: Everybody then only when wanted to b to Barry's when

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Speaker 7: things started getting there, Donah weird and we couldn't get

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Speaker 7: them back.

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Speaker 1: She's saying that she didn't want another bizarre turn in

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Speaker 1: Chrissy's behavior. She didn't want the remains of her children,

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Speaker 1: but she didn't have the final word on the matter.

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Speaker 1: The Akron family torn apart by the news, but even

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Speaker 1: in the haze of grief, Jared's mom, Kathy told him

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Speaker 1: what needed to be done next. She told him he

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Speaker 1: needed to call the hospital to make arrangements for two things. First,

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Speaker 1: she wanted to be given access to the children. She

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Speaker 1: wanted to hold them in her arms and say goodbye.

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Speaker 1: And secondly, she wanted Jared and Christy to begin the

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Speaker 1: process of having the children buried.

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Speaker 2: At that point, she was all for, Hey, you need

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Speaker 2: to get those kids back. I'm like, you're right, we

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Speaker 2: do need to give them a barret call the hospital

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Speaker 2: and they put me into the mark. I'm like, hey,

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Speaker 2: I need to talk to the mark and they're like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: let me take your name and number and we'll call

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Speaker 2: you back because they don't want you to leave in

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Speaker 2: a voicemailer. That's what they told me, so I leave

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Speaker 2: a voicemail. A couple hours goes by, I'm like, I

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Speaker 2: didn't get anything back. I'm gonna call him again.

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Speaker 1: Prior to this moment, Christy was unaware that Jared had

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Speaker 1: been trying to get in contact with the hospital. He

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Speaker 1: wasn't trying to hide it. She was inside with her

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Speaker 1: friends and family, and he was outside making the calls

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Speaker 1: with his mom and dad. And when she finds out

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Speaker 1: he's trying to reach the hospital, she goes ballistic.

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Speaker 2: This time, Christy catches me calling and at this point

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Speaker 2: she gets up off the couch basically runs across the

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Speaker 2: yard and this one hundred and fifty yards from the house.

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Speaker 1: Christy tells Jared that he cannot retrieve their children because

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Speaker 1: she signed her rights away to them. She also never

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Speaker 1: put Jared's name on the birth certificate, so even if

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Speaker 1: he gets through to the hospital, they won't speak to

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Speaker 1: him because legally he's not their father. The only explanation

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Speaker 1: she will provide as to why she signed the rights

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Speaker 1: away is because once they were pronounced dead, she never

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Speaker 1: wanted to see them again. But why didn't she put

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Speaker 1: Jared's name on the birth certificate? Jared was her husband,

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Speaker 1: and their father, and again, the only reason he was

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Speaker 1: not there by her side when she gave birth was

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Speaker 1: because he was effectively locked out and completely isolated due

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Speaker 1: to her testing positive for COVID.

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Speaker 2: She goes, I signed away there gone, you don't have

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Speaker 2: any right to them. I'm like, that's fucking bullshit. Those

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Speaker 2: kids are half mine. You don't have the fucking right

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Speaker 2: to say you don't have a say in that.

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Speaker 1: None of this made sense to Jared or to his parents,

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Speaker 1: And it's a pivotal moment in our story because it

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Speaker 1: drastically altered Jared's willingness to play nice with her.

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Speaker 2: That was my breaking point of you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: And I'd like to think I'm a calm first and

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Speaker 2: most of the time, this just it put me over

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Speaker 2: the edge.

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Speaker 7: She said she had a sea section, she should be cut,

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Speaker 7: she should still be in the hospital. Like things like

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Speaker 7: that are starting to bother me, Like I'm looking up

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Speaker 7: sea section. People don't just stand up check theirselves out

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Speaker 7: of hospital after sea section.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they also don't go running out of the house

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Speaker 1: screaming that they signed their rights away to two dead

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Speaker 1: babies after the fight on the lawn. Believing her point

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Speaker 1: was made. Christy went back into the house, but Jared

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Speaker 1: and his family were far from finish with the matter.

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Speaker 1: They needed a closure. Jared did not accept that he

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Speaker 1: could not see and hold his children, that he could

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Speaker 1: not bury them. If that's how Christy felt, fine, but

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Speaker 1: he had no intention of going along with her wishes.

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Speaker 1: And I don't blame him. As hard as it was

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Speaker 1: to see her so distraught, they were his babies too,

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Speaker 1: and his desire to see them and to give them

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Speaker 1: a proper burial mattered. Even if it didn't matter to

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Speaker 1: Christy my mom.

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Speaker 2: She just wanted to hold them, and I agree, give

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Speaker 2: me my time. I don't care if you're there, don't come.

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Speaker 2: I will bury them where I want to. You don't

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Speaker 2: have to be a part of it.

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Speaker 1: It had come to a breaking point and Jared needed

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Speaker 1: time to think.

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Speaker 2: I got in the car and left. After that, Okay,

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Speaker 2: I left her there.

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Speaker 3: I just drove.

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Speaker 2: I drove for probably six hours. I just stop and

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Speaker 2: get fuel. That's how long I drove.

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Speaker 1: The whole time Jared is driving, he's sporadically pulling over

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Speaker 1: and calling the hospital.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for calling your pmc McGee Women's Hospital.

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Speaker 1: Each time he's getting transferred to the morgue.

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Speaker 3: Got be connected to the morgue. Please sure.

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Speaker 1: When he would get in touch with the Morgue, they'd

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Speaker 1: say they'd get back to him. They didn't.

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Speaker 6: You have reached McGee Women's Hospital Autopsy Pathology our normal.

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Speaker 1: Working hours after his dead end with the Morgue, Jared

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Speaker 1: began calling hospital administration, a painful cycle of being placed

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Speaker 1: on hold, transferred again, hung up on back, only to

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Speaker 1: leave voicemail. After voicemail, Tell my mom and dad.

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Speaker 2: I text him, Hey, here's what I'm doing. I don't

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Speaker 2: know where I'm going. I'm not going to do anything stupid,

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Speaker 2: nothing like that. Just give me some time.

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Speaker 1: And still, after hours and hours of calling, no answer.

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Speaker 2: I drove for hours, ended up showing back up at

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Speaker 2: my parents. I'm sitting there talking to my dad and

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Speaker 2: he goes, something's not adding up here. I said, yeah,

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Speaker 2: and he put this together all kinds of things. He goes,

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Speaker 2: it's not adding up and he brings it back to

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Speaker 2: the animals. If you get an animal to eat and poop,

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Speaker 2: you're pretty good. Most of the time, nothing's wrong. And

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Speaker 2: if you don't have any breathing problems throughout the day,

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Speaker 2: they don't just up and die.

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Speaker 1: But as much as Jared was beginning to suspect something

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Speaker 1: was up, nothing could prepare him for what happened next.

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Speaker 1: As he continues to speak with his father trying to

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Speaker 1: make sense of it, he gets a call from an

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Speaker 1: unknown number, and Jared picked up.

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Speaker 2: But I get a call from this number. She goes, Hi,

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm the AOC. I'm like, I don't what does

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Speaker 2: that mean? She gets, oh, I'm the head of hospital.

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Speaker 2: She goes, I can tell you certain things, but because

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Speaker 2: of HIPPA, I can't tell you everything. I go, look,

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Speaker 2: I'm just trying to find out how I can get

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Speaker 2: my kids.

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Speaker 1: Jared keeps insisting with the hospital administrator that regardless of HIPPA,

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Speaker 1: he has the rights to his children's remains.

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Speaker 2: She says, you're right, as a father, you do have

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Speaker 2: fifty percent rights to your children. But there's no easy

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Speaker 2: way to tell you this. There were no twins born yesterday,

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Speaker 2: and there were no twins that died yesterday.

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Speaker 1: So your wife was never pregnant. No next time. On

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Speaker 1: the unborn.

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Speaker 5: Pseudocysis, this is where someone believes they're pregnant and in

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Speaker 5: fact they have physiologic changes that would accompany the normal

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Speaker 5: signs of pregnancy. They can get abdominal bloating, they can

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Speaker 5: have fatigue, they can have nipple discharge, they have the

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Speaker 5: sense that there are fetal movements. To the casual observer,

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Speaker 5: they appear pregnant, they have extended abdomen like they're carrying

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Speaker 5: a baby. They truly believe that they're pregnant, and it

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Speaker 5: can actually be very difficult for them even when they're

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Speaker 5: confronted with the medical evidence that shows that they're actually

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Speaker 5: not pregnant.

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