1 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:05,439 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Command Center Podcast. 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 2: I'm Logan Paulson here with Fred Smooth Santana Moss and 3 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 2: now there's a fourth box here, and I don't need 4 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 2: to introduce him, but I'm gonna do it anyway because 5 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 2: it's my job. It's Brian Mitchell, I mean, and we're 6 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 2: gonna talk about I always introduce. 7 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: Him as like, and that's what the show is about today, 8 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 1: it's talking about B. Mitch. And I can't wait to 9 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: get B. 10 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 2: Mitch on here because I've never seen anybody cut up 11 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 2: with Fred more meanly th B Mitch and make Fred 12 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 2: feel bad about himself. So I can't wait for that 13 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 2: happened today. But in the meantime, I got to do 14 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 2: a little bit of housekeeping. So it's that time of 15 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 2: the year again. 16 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 1: It's July. 17 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 2: We got the People's Choice Podcast nominations. We're up, okay, 18 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 2: so make sure you vote. You guys did a great 19 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 2: job last time voting for us. 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They could be 49 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 3: coming to watch us do sh. 50 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 2: They could You said you said that in the production meeting, 51 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 2: and I think that should be it. I think Fred 52 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 2: should make your cookies and then you should tell us 53 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 2: whether or not they're from the start. 54 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: He gonna minutes coming here. 55 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,679 Speaker 3: Just because I use wex papers on my cookies in 56 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,959 Speaker 3: a little unburnt, don't mean it come from Wagmans. 57 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: It's good. Yeah, judgent a bacof could be the experience. 58 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: But you know what I think. 59 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 2: I'm really glad b Mitch is here because B Mitch 60 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 2: is maybe the best cook cook I know. 61 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: No, he's not. I am b Mississippi versus the weekend. 62 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: I saw him a barbecue on one of the podcast 63 00:02:55,360 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: garments street even look like you want like the cone. No, 64 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 1: we was doing that. We was mock Barbara cue when 65 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: we wasn't really, but but my man b mitched. Now 66 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: be mis can throw downtrops. But every time you're around me, 67 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: I smell like food? Is that true? What I got 68 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: a sandwich in? That don't mean I mean it was 69 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 1: in so. 70 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 2: But the reason I bring that up is because miss 71 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 2: hit us up in the group message and said those 72 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 2: cookies are for sure. 73 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: They was not. 74 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 4: It was the lady that works, that is true. Yeah, 75 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 4: just amended the lady. 76 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: Is a haters because it was fresh after just so 77 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: him coming here this morning. 78 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 2: All right, So make sure you vote for and then 79 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 2: obviously if you vote for those other podcasts, you take 80 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 2: a picture of your voting, send it to that hawk 81 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 2: outside at gmail dot com. You can win one of 82 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 2: those prizes we just talked about. And now maybe the 83 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 2: most important thing we've been we've been pushing on every 84 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 2: single show is get your Commander tickets. 85 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: Now, yes, QR code right there on the screen. 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Visit 95 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 2: Commanders dot com slash news stadium where you can sign 96 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 2: up to learn more and most importantly. 97 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: Show your support. 98 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 2: Please, you need to know that you guys wanted I mean, 99 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 2: we've talked about it a ton. I've talked about with 100 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 2: b Midge, Gary Clark, talked about it at the Command 101 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 2: Center podcast, and we did it down in DC. Everyone 102 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 2: wants this to happen. Make sure you know that ownership 103 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 2: knows you want to happen. That's gonna be awesome. So 104 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 2: now that we're all through that, let's talk about i'd 105 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 2: benches here, Let's do it. 106 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: Let's do it. Let's get into it. 107 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 2: And it's maybe a silly reason because he doesn't he 108 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:07,919 Speaker 2: shouldn't be here, probably because you shouldn't have to have 109 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 2: this conversation. 110 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 1: We shouldn't have to have this conversation. 111 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 3: We should not, especially when you talk about somebody that 112 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 3: kind of designed the position of a return man to 113 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 3: bring it to the level. 114 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: That is at and when you talk about God. 115 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 3: When we talk about return man, you start with the 116 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:22,799 Speaker 3: be mitches at the world, but then you go bicycle Hima, 117 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 3: you go male Gray, you go Josh Cribs, you go 118 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 3: like this dude at the dude to do here metcalm 119 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 3: mecal like it's it's dude that designed this and made 120 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 3: it attractive position. And we're talking about somebody went second 121 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 3: to Jerry, just saying that I should not have to 122 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 3: say should have a yellow jacket? 123 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: Second to Jerry Rice in YOURDS? All right? Should I 124 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 1: already have a canary jacket on? Be Mitch a lot? 125 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 2: And I don't know who told me that, but I 126 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 2: was in awe of you when I heard that you 127 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 2: are second in all purpose arch to Jerry, Right, I. 128 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 1: Mean that is and I believe feet and how many 129 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: how many should play. 130 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 2: The league fourteen fourteen to how many leagues used to 131 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 2: Jerry play leak twenty yees? 132 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: So obviously people he built different. Well, I'm. 133 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 5: Just saying yeah, But you know, one of the things 134 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 5: that always come up to me is just why are 135 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 5: we Why are we sitting here when it comes to 136 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,799 Speaker 5: because it's not just not just you know, be mentioned 137 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 5: a lot of playing, Jo Jakobe, like so many guys 138 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 5: that put into work man, and this is supposed to 139 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:30,679 Speaker 5: be the pinnacle for individual players that they reach. Hey, 140 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 5: you reach the pinnacle because you're a Hall of Famer. 141 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 5: Why we got to sit here and kind of promote 142 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 5: them when they've done the work already. 143 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 3: It's on tape because it's the Hall of the new names. 144 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 3: Like it feels like if your name not new, you 145 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 3: forget about. 146 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: The past, Like how is that? How is that even possible? 147 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 5: Like for you to like, shouldn't be somebody in house 148 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 5: that's going through a list of guys from whether it 149 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 5: was the sixties, the seventies, eighties to pay like make 150 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 5: sure we get these guys because they should be. 151 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,159 Speaker 1: It should be somebody on every level. 152 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 5: I guess every decade to be there to say, Okay, 153 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 5: I have to make sure that we get the guys. 154 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 5: That's that's due to you know that, just do put 155 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 5: put in the work, put the numbers up. 156 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: Should be able to do. 157 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 3: You think the media got a lot to do with 158 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 3: that because the media regurgitation. 159 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: It is the media. 160 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 4: The media votes on it, and I think the ultimate 161 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 4: thing sometimes you get media people who rarely follow people 162 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 4: outside of the area. 163 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: You know the truth. 164 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 4: You can go back and look at the numbers on 165 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 4: different things and you can see who did what. But 166 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,679 Speaker 4: there are new people who coming in now who finally 167 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 4: getting that vote. They're not going back and look at stuff. 168 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 4: If you don't come in from you know, young people 169 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 4: on to day. If you don't do it right in 170 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 4: front of them, they don't have a look back, you know. 171 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 4: And I think that's the that's the thing where you know, 172 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 4: I came into the league to be there for my team, 173 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 4: help my team out. I didn't believe in missing game, 174 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 4: missing practices, and I was I was bested to have 175 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 4: a lot of health and when you're going and I 176 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 4: never thought about a Hall of Fame, but at the end. 177 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: Of it, when you look at it, you go, damn, 178 00:07:59,040 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: I think. 179 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 2: Enough. 180 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 4: And then you hear people to try to act like 181 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 4: every coach before every game they stress three phases of 182 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 4: the game. But why is it Martin n Anderson, John Stener, 183 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 4: rude ray guy? And then finally they went outside of 184 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 4: kickers Devin Hester. You know, it's like, is he the 185 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 4: first one? 186 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: The first? 187 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 4: But like you shouldn't have to compete with the Joe 188 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 4: Montanas if you're a return guy. Because I tell everybody this, listen, 189 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 4: Jared was great, Joe was great. Damn, ma Reno's great. 190 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 4: I bet you they could have done what I did. 191 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 4: They couldn't do what Devin did, you know, And I 192 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 4: think that it's too many times where the m V 193 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 4: Trophy is a quarterback trop Now the hall of Fame 194 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,119 Speaker 4: is becoming. If you're not a running back, a quarterback 195 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 4: or a lineman D lineman, you don't normally get a 196 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 4: lot of do you. 197 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 2: Know For those linemen, it's like you gotta be the 198 00:08:56,760 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 2: best guy of your decade and this is what you 199 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 2: could pay to be the best the best dude at 200 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 2: that position, which is pretty wild. And so you know, 201 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 2: producer Jason said something before we started the show and 202 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 2: he said, you were like the first guy to make 203 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 2: returner like a dangerous thing. Someone you had to you 204 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 2: talked about the three phases. You were the first guy 205 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 2: to make it, so you had to account for the 206 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 2: three phases of it. What was the mentality that led 207 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 2: you to that? You know what I'm saying like is 208 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 2: it's like, hey man, go return kicks and now we 209 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 2: see the value of it. 210 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: Now. 211 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 2: That's like a young guy comes on a team like 212 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 2: Jalen Lane, it's so easy to sell that to him. 213 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 2: What was that conversation like and how what made you 214 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 2: attack it with such ferocity? Well? 215 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 4: Being there, I played multiple positions growing up. I played 216 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,199 Speaker 4: quarterback in high school, in college when I got to 217 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 4: the league. It was making your mark, you know, and 218 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 4: I was giving a chance to be a return man. 219 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 4: And I remember talking to Mayo Gray one time. He 220 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 4: and I were like, I said, mal, why they don't 221 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 4: give this position a lot of respect? He said, that's 222 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 4: make it sexy. And I think we basically formed a 223 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 4: competition with each other. We would go at it and 224 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 4: see what we can do. And for me, I when 225 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 4: I would be in meeting rooms with Wayne Severe early on, 226 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 4: I saw return guys that were timid. I was coming 227 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 4: in thirty pounds more than they were. The most of 228 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:18,959 Speaker 4: the guys to eighty, I mean one to eighty. Stuffing 229 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 4: like that. I came in my first year. I played 230 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 4: at two or two. Then I started creeping it up 231 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 4: to I played as heavy as two twenty. Really, so 232 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 4: when I caught a punt and I came downhill, they 233 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 4: Kelly or a part returner, I mean. 234 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 1: A linebacker or a cornerback, I'm gonna feed it to 235 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: you death. Now where else to go? You know? 236 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 4: And I think I began. So I look at it. 237 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 4: I look at like a lot of people like Mail 238 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 4: and Devin. I look at them like Barry Sanders, shifty yeah, 239 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 4: you know, Josh Cribs and all of the time. 240 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: Me I was Jerome Bettison. 241 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, downhill, I'm coming downhill, and I think, you know, 242 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 4: you're getting to do it. And then I had never 243 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 4: done it in my life. And then after three years, 244 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 4: you go, okay, well I can do this. And then 245 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:02,199 Speaker 4: after four year and then ten years, you. 246 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 1: Know, I got to Philly. 247 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 4: When I got the Philly uh with with John, John 248 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 4: began to you know, he would ask me what I 249 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 4: wanted to run, how I wanted to run it. I 250 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 4: basically was designing it because I don't believe in right 251 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 4: return left. I believe in five yards right away. I 252 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 4: catch it and I'm getting up here, you know, I 253 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 4: want to go to a straight line. 254 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: And it was fun like a b gap run. Yeah, 255 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: so once I saw a crack, I'm going did like 256 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: running the wedge back in the day. Was that how 257 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: you guys did you? I never believed in the five 258 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: man wedge. 259 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:39,199 Speaker 4: Always like two guys and a running back in between 260 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 4: me and them. 261 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: It was similar to a running. 262 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 4: Play when you got the guard and attackle pulling and 263 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 4: then the fullback going through the gap and you follow him. 264 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 1: I liked it like that. I didn't like. 265 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 4: That wadge because you know, you running it and a 266 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 4: guy come off that edge, you don't see it caught. 267 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 2: The reason I bring it up is because I was 268 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 2: in the wedge in college. I was in wedge my 269 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 2: first couple of years in the league, and that that 270 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:04,439 Speaker 2: is like one of the scariest things that I did 271 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 2: in my career. And the fact that you're the guy 272 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 2: behind it and they had dudes that were, you know, 273 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 2: hopped up on Mountain dew coming down there, and then 274 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 2: you played fourteen years and missed the game like it 275 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 2: just speaks to your toughness and physical courage, and especially 276 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 2: if you were returning the football that way you must 277 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 2: have been had you must have had some punishing collisions. 278 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 2: I did did one that you're you remember that. You're like, 279 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 2: oh man, this dude. 280 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 4: Like the ones that people will remember, weren't They weren't hard. 281 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: They just caught me in the right place. I see. 282 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 4: Curtis Buckley caught me right here boom, you know, coming 283 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 4: out he went to I was coming through. The guy's 284 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 4: supposed to block him fail and he caught me. His 285 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 4: shoulder pad hit me. The league wanted to find him. 286 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 4: I was like, no, he didn't hit me with his helmet, 287 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:50,959 Speaker 4: you know. And I try to try to protect him, 288 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 4: and they still find him because, you know, leave when 289 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 4: they decided they want to do something. 290 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: But there were a lot of them. Man. I we 291 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: were talking about earlier with LeVar. Yeah, LeVar, we're coming here. 292 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 4: And he said, because like I was here when LeVar 293 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 4: got drafted, and you know, the like the wear shirt, 294 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 4: keep his shirt off all the time. 295 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, how you gonna have your shirt off? Man? 296 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: You look like you about three months. So I'll mess 297 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: with him all the time. 298 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 4: So he told me, He say, dude, I wanted I 299 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 4: had you zero did he said? And I came in there, 300 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 4: I lowered my head and you hit beast. I was like, 301 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 4: what the hell is that? And I can see the 302 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:30,079 Speaker 4: white of his eyes when I look down. I said, what, 303 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 4: I play it, but I just you know, I loved it, dog. 304 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 4: You know, I played fourteen years, and people will tell 305 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 4: you in my fourteen year I probably was as youthful 306 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,079 Speaker 4: and having as much fun as I did my. 307 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 5: First year Philly running punts back or kickoffs back. And 308 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 5: I'm like, hold on, and what point of career was 309 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 5: you in then? Because you look no different than when 310 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 5: you was we're here. That was year thirteen eleven, twelve thirteen. 311 00:13:58,600 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, when we were playing against each other. 312 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was like we played on the preseason the 313 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:04,319 Speaker 5: two when I was with the Jets, and I remember you. 314 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 5: I'm like, damn be missed, still over there trying to 315 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 5: It looks no different, you know what I mean? 316 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,319 Speaker 2: So well, it looks different than everybody else to ever 317 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 2: do it, in my opinion, because he's got the high 318 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 2: pied shelf. 319 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:16,959 Speaker 1: It's right now. I want the biggest want, the biggest fans. 320 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 3: And the biggest help in the ft. Let me ask 321 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 3: you this. You have scored in. 322 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 6: Every way possible as an NFL player, right, you return 323 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 6: the kick, I mean kickoff, return the punt, threw a touchdown, 324 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 6: rush the touchdown, cop a touchdown. 325 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: So the only thing he knew kick a field goal? 326 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: So that is the only thing, is it? Do you know? 327 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 3: Because I don't know anybody anybody else. 328 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: Card else was called slash. I remember that. 329 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 4: I remember when that when he came to the league 330 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 4: and it was saying, I say, well, here he runs 331 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 4: the ball, he throw is it okay? 332 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: And it might go out a receiver? 333 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's nothing compared to what to what you I 334 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 4: also cover kick covered punts. Yeah, you know, so you 335 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 4: got to have to run, running and attack the way. 336 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 4: It's just like anybody else. 337 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 3: Did you get a special team touched down while tackling 338 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 3: somebody like. 339 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: They fumbled and you picked it up around one. So 340 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: that's the only way you had to knocked the ball. Yeah, 341 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:22,359 Speaker 1: the interception probably. 342 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 2: You said something like earlier you said you've you kept 343 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 2: your approach the same way for fourteen years, Like how 344 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 2: did you do it? 345 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: Man? 346 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 2: Because I always think of like if I told someone 347 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 2: to go run through a door and someone took a 348 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 2: two by four hit me in the head. I could 349 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 2: do it good a couple of times, but. 350 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: Then I got to quick. But at some point I'm like, no, 351 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: that ain't for me. I had a mindset. 352 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 4: I grew up in a military dad, and my dad 353 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 4: basically challenged us. 354 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: Man. You know, I have four brothers, two sisters. 355 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 4: I'm the youngest, and when I got to start playing football, 356 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 4: I realized you have to be able to know where 357 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 4: you can go. So when I practiced, I pushed myself 358 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 4: to a point when I lift waist, I lift waist. 359 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: I didn't want to lift with the running backs. 360 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 4: I wanted to lift with the linebackers to offer some 361 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 4: line of defense line and I would outlift some of them. 362 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 4: So when I got on the football field, I was 363 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 4: telling this to JP one day. I say, you know, 364 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 4: I played chicken with people. He said, what do you 365 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 4: mean you play chicken? I said, I run full speed 366 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 4: at you and see who's gonna shot, and try to 367 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 4: get off the line, because if you just give me 368 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 4: a little bit, I felt I was strong enough, you know, 369 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 4: to be able to run through somebody, to be able to. 370 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: Break a tackle. 371 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 4: And if you came in there, if every time you 372 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 4: saw me first year you saw me, I'm coming in 373 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 4: lowing the boom on you. If in my fifthy I'm 374 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 4: still doing it, eventually you're gonna say I'm not hitting 375 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 4: him no more. 376 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: You know. 377 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 4: I remember when I would play against Philly and those 378 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 4: guys would like try to avoid hitting me. 379 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: When I got up there, I reminded him of it, you. 380 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 4: Know, because it's like, look, man, football is an intimidating sport. 381 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 4: It's a intimidation sport, and that's all you got to do. 382 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 4: I wasn't the biggest guy, but when I got in 383 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 4: the weight room and I'll put the three four four 384 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 4: hundred pounds on the bar and put over six hundred 385 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:09,360 Speaker 4: on the squad and do that. People would seeing they're 386 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 4: gonna do you can't lift that up, Harris. He was 387 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 4: a guy like, man, dude, you're crazy. 388 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 5: Did you have that same mentality and that same will 389 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:19,199 Speaker 5: as a quarterback doing college? 390 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 1: Which is if I was a quarterback, they do. 391 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 2: I wanted to move him to running every time I 392 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 2: talk to him like that way this dude played quarterback 393 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 2: because and. 394 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 5: When you watch the highlights that you like, if I 395 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 5: show you some highlight, he'll go, be bitch, you work raising. 396 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 4: If I'm running right now, the gold line is there 397 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 4: at that wall and a guy coming in with a camera. 398 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 4: I leave the ground, famil, I leave ground. I probably 399 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 4: end up in the zone. My dad thought, my dad. 400 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: Stuff. He was a raging case. He had that mustache. 401 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 1: You know. 402 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 4: It just football to me never ever became something other 403 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 4: than the game I played as a kid. 404 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: He just happened to start paying me for it. Yeah. 405 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:16,880 Speaker 4: And when they started to pay me for it, hell, 406 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 4: I lost my mind. Hell, you know, and that's all 407 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 4: it was. 408 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's awesome, man, And so we already mentioned that 409 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 2: Devin Hester was is the only. 410 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 3: The first returner to get into the Hall of Fame, 411 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 3: which I don't. 412 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and producer Jason does a great job of research 413 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 2: and stuff for us, and so like, let's just go 414 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 2: through so player, So B Bitch is the first number 415 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 2: I'm gonna read, Devin Hester is the second number. Right, 416 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 2: So games played B Mitch two hundred and twenty three, right, 417 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 2: Devin Hester one hundred and fifty six. So it speaks 418 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 2: to the longevity, right pub return yards basically five thousand 419 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 2: and four. 420 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: Hundred and ninety nine yards, right, you can fall for 421 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: one more yard. If I'd known, I would have done 422 00:18:55,840 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: that had to be in same So I'm like, Dawn, 423 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: why might go back right now? You can find something? 424 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 1: They might find something somewhere. 425 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 5: Uh. 426 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 2: And then Devin Hester, who again like I played against 427 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 2: Devin Hester, and I would be in meetings against Devin Hester, 428 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 2: like crying my eyes outlet I got I got a 429 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 2: funny story about. 430 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 1: Devin Hester in a minute. 431 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:20,360 Speaker 2: But three thousand, six hundred and ninety five, So that's 432 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 2: a huge difference. Yeah, Yeah, And again like B Mitch 433 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 2: played longer, but like to the longevity and then this 434 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 2: number is diabolical. 435 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,919 Speaker 3: This is a diabolical number. This is how you know 436 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 3: somebody ain't looking at the pays. Like to look at 437 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 3: the future, you gotta looking to pay. 438 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:41,679 Speaker 2: So kick off for turned yards fourteen thousand, fourteen thousand. 439 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: I ain't got fourteen thousand, none. 440 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 2: No, but Devin Hester has seven thousand, three hundred and 441 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:49,479 Speaker 2: thirty three. 442 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:53,120 Speaker 3: That's double, that's double the amount of So how could 443 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 3: you fix your map and say let's put him in. 444 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 4: Insteady And also like so to give a little Yeah, 445 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 4: Devin deserves it, I mean. And the thing about he 446 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 4: and I talked, and I remember they were playing you 447 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 4: all one year and I had always said, like, I 448 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 4: would love to I would love to talk to the guys. 449 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 4: I'm off of my service, and nobody ever called me. 450 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 4: So Devin called me, I'm going to be paying against me. 451 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: What thirteen When he ran that pump back, he. 452 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 4: Returned against him. So he was like, and I just so, 453 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 4: I said, dude, you sometimes you hesitate. Just hit that thing, 454 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 4: you know, And he ended up scoring a textdown. I 455 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 4: think it was if you got mad at me forgiving him, 456 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 4: if everybody else. 457 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 2: Is because they broke the record, that game, and so 458 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 2: I remember I was in there. I was on pumper team. 459 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 2: I was playing right guard, got hammed up a little bit, 460 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 2: broke out of there. I was running up there and 461 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 2: I was like, oh man, I'm about to stop this thing. 462 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 2: But there's a caravan of dudes coming, and I'm like, okay, 463 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:47,199 Speaker 2: I'm going to. 464 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: Be the hero. I'm gonna be on Sports Center. Everyone's 465 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: watching his return. 466 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 2: I'll tell you some dude came and blasted me right 467 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 2: in the face like I had hit the ground. 468 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 1: He was by me. 469 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 2: I'm looking like this touchdown, Devin Huster. I'm about Sports 470 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 2: Center for like the next three weeks getting my. 471 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,199 Speaker 1: You know what. But I will say, like, so the 472 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: thing about. 473 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 2: Devin that again the numbers here be are insane, insane 474 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 2: all purpose yards, you know, twenty three thousand more yards. 475 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 4: I just think think I gave you a example earlier. 476 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 4: Everybody is not Bear, Saydas everybody not Devin. Well, yeah, 477 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 4: that's a different way. That's what I was going to say. 478 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 2: I think people remember Devin Hester in that two thousand 479 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:34,199 Speaker 2: and ten to twenty and thirteen range where he was 480 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 2: like everyone was terrified of him. 481 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 1: Nobody would kick him the bomb. Yeah, no one will 482 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:38,919 Speaker 1: kick him the ball. And I think that kind of 483 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 1: had some energy and like they wouldn't kick you to me, 484 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: I I want to ask you about that. That's what 485 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 1: I say. I want to on the games and they 486 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 1: will play keep away. 487 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 2: I don't remember, because like, did you have that same 488 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:49,120 Speaker 2: level of impact. 489 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 4: I would go into games and my coach would always say, well, 490 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 4: just be patient today because they know, like we played 491 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 4: Chris Moore, Chris Moore will kick that ball forty for you, 492 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 4: forty three yards, have about a four point seven to 493 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 4: five second and you're going to fair cattish and every 494 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 4: once in a while, guy was shaking. 495 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: I remember it's a touchdown. 496 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 4: I said that I scored most of my touchdowns in 497 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 4: the white jersey and the one that to come back to, 498 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 4: I scored the one in the red jersey where we're 499 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 4: playing against the Eagles. And I had read I had 500 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 4: studied that punt of so much. I knew where he 501 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 4: was trying to kick. But he would try to like 502 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 4: sit a little bit, then he'll move to try to 503 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 4: set you up. No, no, I was left for the 504 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 4: guy and I forgot his name something, and he he 505 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 4: would yeah, but like I always studied him to know 506 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 4: where they're kicking. So what I would do, I would 507 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 4: go line up right where they trying to kick before 508 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 4: the ball is even snapped, so then they would try 509 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 4: to adjust. So I kept doing it to him. I 510 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 4: was running around and he shanked it because they had 511 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,719 Speaker 4: kicked away from it, kicked out of bound and it bounced. 512 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 4: I caught him on the run, cut back across and scored, 513 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 4: and he got in trouble. He got in trouble and 514 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 4: especially got fired. So I had fun in putting on people. 515 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 4: I bet you did. 516 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 2: But like again, like I think that's the thing that 517 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:07,679 Speaker 2: that sweet was talking about earlier, we talked about it. 518 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 2: Ten was talking about with the old guys, like there's 519 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 2: the immediacy of Devin Hester, like Devin Hester mania. 520 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: He's in your face, you know. And then but like. 521 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,479 Speaker 2: I don't I'm not familiar with I see the numbers, 522 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 2: but like there's something different about when you're lying up 523 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:22,679 Speaker 2: against the guy and you feel your heart in your 524 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 2: chest and to know that you were doing that to 525 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 2: people as the And I think the other thing that's 526 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 2: crazy to me is you were the first guy to 527 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 2: do it. 528 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're the first guy to weaponize it. 529 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 2: And so I always think guys that are special, So 530 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 2: obviously Devin Hester is definitely the first guy to do 531 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,239 Speaker 2: it that is special, Like, how do we not? 532 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 5: I think also the homage to look I also believe 533 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,199 Speaker 5: too it is which I'm I tipped my head off 534 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 5: to Devon for doing He acknowledged it. 535 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 1: He acknowledged that. Look, y'all ain't get it. 536 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 5: Wrong, but y'all forgot a guy who you know what 537 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 5: I'm saying. And I think that's one of the things 538 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 5: that we failed to realize what happened for Devon. I 539 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 5: don't know how many times I watch NFL Network and 540 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 5: all Dion Sanders talking about Devin Hester should be wearing 541 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,959 Speaker 5: a yellow jacket. So when you have people petitioning for you, 542 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,360 Speaker 5: and then now those folks like you, say, the ones 543 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 5: who probably looking over it, they go back and say, oh, 544 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 5: you're right. 545 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: This guy just left the lead. This guy's up for it. 546 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 5: I think that gave him that favorable push, which now 547 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,479 Speaker 5: you see us, you know, as an organization that's saying, hey, 548 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 5: let's get behind our guys, get behind the Georgia Kobe's, 549 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 5: let's get behind the Brian Mitchell. 550 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,400 Speaker 1: Let's make sure we petitioning and. 551 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 5: Speak about these guys who's deserving because if the masters 552 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 5: is going to forget about him when we're not, we're 553 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 5: gonna push it so they can make make sure that 554 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 5: they hear us or go back in. 555 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 1: And I watch looking at them. 556 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 4: Monk leave this game as the all time leading yards 557 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 4: and reception guy. 558 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: That's crazy. And then it took forever forever for him 559 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: to get in. Yeah. 560 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 4: When I left the game, I was the all time 561 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 4: leader in total offense, touchdowns, perpetory, all of. 562 00:24:56,560 --> 00:25:00,640 Speaker 1: Devin didn't break anybody else's ready. Yeah, and I think. 563 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 4: People like it's like only the record that he break again, 564 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 4: just a touchdown record, only one thing. What I'm saying 565 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 4: he broke. He booked stuff that was set. And I 566 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 4: think when people see that, you know, because I'd like 567 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 4: to look on social media, people start naming return guys, 568 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 4: and it always be somebody from watching and say, well 569 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 4: what about Brian Mitchell and the guy like who look 570 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 4: up the stats? 571 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: Did they when the guy people come back and damn, 572 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: I didn't know he did all that. Wow, there's a 573 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:28,439 Speaker 1: reason for that. 574 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 4: Social media wasn't around, No, No, it wasn't you know, 575 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 4: and That's another thing. A lot of people got to 576 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 4: play under social media where you can have one touchdown 577 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 4: and he's gonna see it. 578 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 3: Sell, he gonna think about it after you did it. 579 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: It made it. 580 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 3: And you're right because the Hall of Fame they act 581 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 3: like it ain't but two sides of the ball, offense 582 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 3: and defense. 583 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 1: That's it. 584 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 3: But when I came in the league, Dunteate Hall, nobody 585 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,959 Speaker 3: wanted to kick the ball to durn Tate Hall like 586 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 3: he was changing games through special teams. 587 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 1: And then it was a signature do it then? 588 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,199 Speaker 3: So how could you not put the dude in the 589 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 3: Hall of Fame who started the signature, That's what I'm saying. 590 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 3: So it's like everybody else kind of got the love 591 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 3: for what you started, and nobody showing love back. 592 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 4: See, I think like I'll take it a step for 593 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 4: all the like the return game was, that was my 594 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 4: calling call. 595 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: It got me into the league. 596 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 4: But every time he allowed me to run the ball, 597 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,919 Speaker 4: come off the backfield, no lineback could check me. I 598 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 4: was just about to get the average that was I 599 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 4: think my yardist yards per average. 600 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 1: You know it's it's it's cool I got you right here. 601 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:39,880 Speaker 3: You and Dave Man you and Dave Man, y'all, they 602 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 3: were specialist. 603 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: I'm a return and on third. 604 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 2: Down, I'm going to burst somebody, Like you're just looking 605 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 2: at some of these like numbers as you as a 606 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 2: running back, and Devin Hester was he little played a 607 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 2: little receiver, but predominantly a return man. Yeah, you had 608 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 2: two and ninety nine yards rushing, thirteen touchdowns, and you 609 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 2: average five point one yards of carry. Five point one 610 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 2: yards per carry is a crazy number in any era. 611 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: Right. Career receiving stats, two hundred and seventy four receptions, 612 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 1: that's way more than game. But b Mitch doesn't care 613 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 1: about me. 614 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 2: And eighty one yards, four touchdowns everything, nine point two 615 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 2: yards of reception back when like a scatback was kind 616 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 2: of a new thing. 617 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 1: And like I told you, the group that starting they 618 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: would they would have group. 619 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,880 Speaker 2: And then you know, just a little cherry on top 620 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty eight yards passing in a touchdown, 621 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 2: playing quarterback in. 622 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: The body back game. Yeah, yeah, we need you. And 623 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 1: so this is something I'm going to nerd out here 624 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: for a second. 625 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,120 Speaker 2: Like I like football. I love football. We're here talking 626 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 2: about football all the time. I love football players, and 627 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 2: what I mean by that, I love dudes that are tough, 628 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 2: competitive and can do anything. 629 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 1: You know, it's a dead thing now, it's a dead 630 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: it's not a real thing. 631 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 2: And so I feel like when I look at me, like, 632 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 2: it's a dude that encapsulates football, and what's the Hall 633 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 2: of Fame is supposed to be football players. 634 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: Football players, not that I'm good, but it's also a 635 00:27:59,359 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 1: little good. 636 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 5: I also believe too when you look at the Hall 637 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 5: of Fame, and this is not throwing nothing on them, 638 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 5: because I think, no, I know, I get salty because 639 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,120 Speaker 5: it's guys that I watched, like a. 640 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: B Mitch, like I told you, like Joji, Jimmy Smith 641 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 1: and those guys. 642 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 5: Like when I see and like I said, this is 643 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 5: no offense because any guy who's in there is deserving. 644 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, hats off to you because it's hard. But because 645 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 1: he's in there, this makes me think this guy should 646 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: be there even more. And I go back to the 647 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: Steel Curtain. 648 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 5: I didn't watch those guys, but I watched receivers, so 649 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 5: I knew the star Wars. I knew the Lynx one 650 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 5: and Linz one showed up in every Super Bowl game 651 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 5: with the biggest catch. 652 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: The Star war had the yards. I'm like, and he 653 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: was the number one receiver. 654 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 5: How do I go to the to the to the 655 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 5: number two receiver and put him in before I put 656 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 5: the number one in the number one took forever to 657 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 5: get in. 658 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: So that's my argument. It would always be argument. 659 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 5: Look, I understand those guys all are deserving, but I'll 660 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 5: be confirmed. I'm scratching my head because be missed. I'm 661 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 5: scratching my head the Jimmy Smith. I'm sketching my hand 662 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 5: because you know, a guy like Fletch. I'm scratching my 663 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 5: head like Tory Holt, Reggy Wings. 664 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: All these guys are get in there. But how do 665 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: you wait so long when it's proven? 666 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 4: The flap I think is people look for They say 667 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 4: signature plays because they said Art Monk. 668 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: They say, what was Art signs you play? I say, 669 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: he went on. 670 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 4: Eighteen yards and run that, comeback and get the first 671 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 4: sound every time you need to get That was the 672 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:25,719 Speaker 4: signature play. 673 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: Like when I would show up in games. 674 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 4: I don't know if the cameras out there that early, 675 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 4: but I got in the fights and scuffle every preseason. 676 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: That was my signature. You know why? When I was 677 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: messing by his mind up. Okay, I would. I would. 678 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 4: I had coaches come and talk and trash me, and 679 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 4: I would mess their minds up because all I listen, 680 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 4: if I got you worried about. 681 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: Me, You're gonna screw up something something else, you know. 682 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 1: And the whole thing of it is, first time I 683 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: returned to kick, I ran a touchdown, you know, So 684 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: you see got the same thing coming. 685 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 4: I just but like the body back and you have 686 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 4: mentioned that logan. That was the scariest day and one 687 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 4: of the happiest days of my life. I just watched 688 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 4: nine people get hurt, crazy and backing up those people. 689 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 4: I'm backing up two quarterbacks, two running backs, and two 690 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 4: return guys. 691 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: Five of those dudes got hurt. YEA, So I played kick. 692 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,479 Speaker 4: I played part return, kick return, quarterback and running back 693 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 4: in that game. When I got the game, all I 694 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 4: can remember is I'm I had told my friends, I 695 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 4: bet people five dollar tend I'm gonna play quarterback in 696 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 4: the NFL Monday Night Football. 697 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: I'm telling up my money. 698 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 4: But when Coach Gibbs came to me and say you're in, 699 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 4: I'm like running back and say no, quarterback, I'm. 700 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 1: Like, what did you do? Any of the place. Yeah, 701 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: they had given me. 702 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 4: They gave me a little package that week because I 703 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 4: think Stam was already a little nick the rip was 704 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 4: hurt and rutledsh was there, Jeff Rulich. And that's why 705 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 4: when I went to when I got to Philly, they 706 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 4: were like, we're gonna give it back. I said, don't 707 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 4: give me a package. I say, I got a bad 708 00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 4: omen about that. When if you give me a package, 709 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 4: I play the game. They didn't give me one. Donaldan 710 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 4: got hurt Koit Deptman got hurt early in the game, 711 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 4: and then a j Philly he got banged up and it. 712 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 1: Took forever to get off the ground. 713 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 4: I'm like, damn, So I didn't play my last game 714 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 4: of my career in New York Jesse Palmer Carry Collins. 715 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 4: They gave me a package. Both of them got hurt. 716 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 4: I finished the game at quarterback. 717 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 3: I remember, but I also know this. I was in 718 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 3: weakness the other day and I ran in the jumping 719 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 3: gathers and he. 720 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: Said he looking for you. They other day, you see 721 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 1: the cookies. Other day that water. 722 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 4: I just think the whole thing, and like people asked me, 723 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 4: like do I get upset I'm not that because they 724 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 4: played the game and the people I played against coaches 725 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,959 Speaker 4: that prepared to be against me. John Gruden when they 726 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 4: played us in the in the NF James the game, 727 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 4: he said, they're worried about one guy. They kicked the 728 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 4: first one. I went seventy five. They never kicked him 729 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 4: again in the game. That's respect, Gail Sarah said. Gil 730 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 4: Sarah said, man, Be Mitch could have played in any era, 731 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 4: could have played with us played. When Gail Sarah said it, 732 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 4: that makes you feel good. But like if you if 733 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 4: if you can get something from it, and I want 734 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 4: my kids to understand everyone that you. 735 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: Ain't playing all that. I'm like, Daddy did a little something. 736 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 1: People more than little something. 737 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, you said something about signature plays 738 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 2: and like Devin Hester crazy signature plays. 739 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, you'll return against Tampa. 740 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is like he was so consistent, 741 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 2: like Fletch was so consistent, Jojia Kobe, He's boring. 742 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: He's boring. That's what I'm saying is when you do 743 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 1: the same, people get border Now you know it. 744 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 5: Just I guess too, what makes you like for a 745 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 5: guy like be Mitch, like be miss nuts. 746 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: Not not sweating it, but it bothers me. 747 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 5: It bothered me for these people like I say, like 748 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 5: and I and and folks ask me all the time 749 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 5: tending hall. 750 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 1: Of Famer note, No, no, I'm not. 751 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 5: I was able to get ten thousand yards, which was 752 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 5: what's the plateau for you to be considered. 753 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 1: But I just didn't have that kind of career. So 754 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 1: I'm not tripping. But I did it. I did more 755 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: than you had I had. I did more than the 756 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 1: average player at my position, you know did. 757 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 5: But when it comes to a guy with Hall of 758 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 5: Fame numbers, what's the hold up? Ain't no way, man, 759 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 5: I'm finna sit here and be sitting here like nah, no, no, no, 760 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 5: this is what makes me sick. 761 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 1: Have you talked to anybody about this? You're not being 762 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 1: in like, no, I try not talk people, you know. 763 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 3: I could I have come up last year doing the 764 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 3: Chicago Bear Game. 765 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 1: The Hall of Fame dude, was there? Hall of Fame dude. 766 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 3: No, the Hall of Fame dude for the NFL, the 767 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 3: big dude I spent. 768 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I spent twenty minutes with him. 769 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 3: I spent twenty minutes with him making my case for 770 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 3: b Mitch London, Fletcher and jo Jakobe. 771 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 1: And I say, it's a damn Shane Hall of Fame. 772 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 7: That's what I told him, Damn Shane, the guy with 773 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 7: the second yards to Jerry Rights ain't in the Hall 774 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 7: of Fame. Damn shame that the guy with more tackles 775 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 7: than ray Lewis and more game than ray Lewis ain't 776 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 7: in the Hall of. 777 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 1: Can you explain it to me? Do you know what 778 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 1: I hate to He said, you know what? 779 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,439 Speaker 3: We need to look into these things because I said, 780 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 3: y'all forgetting about. 781 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 5: To pass, Let's stop identifying what b Mission was able 782 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 5: to do as a returner to second and all purpose 783 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,360 Speaker 5: jobs behind a wide receiver and just and just acknowledge 784 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,760 Speaker 5: it as the guy with the most jos as a returner. 785 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 1: See, because I mean this, it's a it's a whole 786 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 1: tote of the position. 787 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 5: And since you already acknowledged one of those guys who 788 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,799 Speaker 5: got the most touchdowns, acknowledge the guy with the who 789 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,840 Speaker 5: had those touchdowns, that guy you know that had the records. 790 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about. 791 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 4: So I go to Super Bowl every year, and I 792 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 4: ended up going to I ended up seeing a lot 793 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 4: of guys Tim Brown and Marcus Allen and Eric Dickinson, Kenny. 794 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,879 Speaker 1: Lofton, y'all say, man, what the hell is going on? 795 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm gonna be in y'all hands eventually, like 796 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 4: Hall of famers are asking the question. You're like, I 797 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 4: remember Tim k I ain't in the golf Turbert one 798 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 4: time and said, dog, I did not know you had 799 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:07,439 Speaker 4: that many yards. Yeah, I'm like, Jim, I just caught 800 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 4: the ball and ran bro it. 801 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 3: Just I was having fun that said. We did old 802 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,720 Speaker 3: that we played. I played against him Brown, I played 803 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:20,720 Speaker 3: against jar Rice. Like y'all longevity, y'all had a group, y'all. 804 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 3: Longevity was off the chain, all of y'all. 805 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 4: Man, Like this team here, the team we won the 806 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,359 Speaker 4: Super Bowl ninety one. I guarantee you that were at 807 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 4: least fifteen to twenty guys that played fourteen years or more. 808 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,839 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm surprised when I heard that I played sixteen years. 809 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 4: Feast sixteen, Ernest Biden played sixteen, and Simmons played about thirteen. Jacoby, 810 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,720 Speaker 4: Darryl twenty, Ray Brown twenty. 811 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 1: I played with both. Brown played against Darryl. Give us 812 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 1: something in the water back then, Like that's unbelievable. Man. Yeah. 813 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 2: And then to kind of piggyback on Tanni's point about 814 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 2: you know you have the most yards, right, So it's 815 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 2: not only that, but it's like you're second in the 816 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,399 Speaker 2: NFL all time for playoff for turn yards. Right, you've 817 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 2: got your all time leading kick return yards with fourteen 818 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 2: fourteen thousand yards. Right, all time leading returner with five 819 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,480 Speaker 2: thousand yards. I'll give you that extra yard, right, total 820 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 2: return yards, you lead the thing. It's not Devin Hester, 821 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 2: it's not Cribs, it's not Dante Hall. 822 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:22,800 Speaker 1: It's yeah, you don't know best. No, I don't know 823 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:31,320 Speaker 1: who that is. That was in Philly always the goo, Yes, Nabody. Yeah. 824 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 2: And then second all time and all purpose yards. And 825 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 2: it's crazy to think that the guy ahead of you 826 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:37,880 Speaker 2: is maybe the best football player of all time. 827 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 1: And Gang on that point and got him a couple 828 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,759 Speaker 1: of passes at the Pro Bowl. Did you really? Yeah? 829 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 1: He was like, man, no, want to throw balls? 830 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 5: Man? 831 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 1: You and Jerry right, thank you throwing some football football. 832 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 4: So after about twenty five minutes, I like Jerry, I 833 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 4: am on vacation down. So do the running full speed 834 00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 4: routes after practice the Pro Bow. 835 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,839 Speaker 1: Yes, at the Pro Bowl. Nobody supposed to be taking 836 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 1: here my time. He running around. Oh yes, indeed. 837 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,280 Speaker 2: So back to signature plays. Do you have a favorite 838 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:13,240 Speaker 2: play in your career? 839 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:13,760 Speaker 1: Favorite? 840 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 2: Maybe two or three plays you're like, man, this is 841 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 2: these are the ones I want to be known for. 842 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,800 Speaker 2: And maybe it's a tackle like that's before you run. 843 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,400 Speaker 1: You ran somebody over, hit the sideline. 844 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,480 Speaker 4: I never forget that first punt return for a touchdown. 845 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 4: We were in nineteen ninety one, first game of the season, 846 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,759 Speaker 4: playing against the Detroit Lions. I get the punt and 847 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 4: it's a it's a do it number ninety seven, big boy, 848 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 4: I hate him, ran through him when. 849 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,839 Speaker 1: And went to the end zone. Win and win this guy. 850 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 4: And then I'll say I always tell people my signature 851 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 4: return is the first time I ever returned to kick off. 852 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 4: It was a preseason game, and all I remember Wayne 853 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,320 Speaker 4: Severe saying, you got. 854 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 1: To get through the hole before it closed. 855 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 4: And I caught the ball and I saw a hole 856 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 4: and I ran so damn fast. When that whole closed, 857 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 4: I was probably at the fifty and I went to 858 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,760 Speaker 4: the end zone. I came to the sideline and Charles 859 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 4: Man said, oh, you just made the football team, and 860 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 4: I went to smile and Walliamstonville said, you haven't done. 861 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,839 Speaker 5: You don't kick off coming, you better the tackle, better 862 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:13,440 Speaker 5: get back out. 863 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 1: I went on kickoff covering. 864 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 4: I was on the tackle and then he came gave 865 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 4: me that after that, and I kind of felt at 866 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,440 Speaker 4: that Mama like, Okay, well you're sure what you could do? 867 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 4: Because I was going to Canada because I thought return 868 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,360 Speaker 4: guys were absolutely crazy stupid. If I got hit and 869 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,360 Speaker 4: knocked out, I was going to Canada and play quarterback. 870 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 4: I had a been already off of the contract to 871 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 4: go to Canada for the Saskatchewan rough Riders. 872 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 1: Yeah. Did uh? 873 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 3: In that Detroit game, did Mayor Great return a point 874 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:39,399 Speaker 3: like fifty yards or something? 875 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 1: Now they lost forty five nothing that game? I thought 876 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,400 Speaker 1: he had broke one of those than that game. We 877 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 1: beat him. We beat him. We played him twice that year. 878 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,400 Speaker 4: We played him twice that year, We beat him eighty 879 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:50,040 Speaker 4: six to ten. 880 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 1: Why did y'all play Detroit so much at this time? 881 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,880 Speaker 4: Because they were in the playoffs and we beat him 882 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 4: forty one ten in the play when they had buried 883 00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,359 Speaker 4: in So yeah, yeah, I remember they said, well he joyce. 884 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,880 Speaker 4: They didn't have Barry Smith, Barry Sanders. Last time I 885 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 4: say he not forty five points good. 886 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,279 Speaker 1: He's good. 887 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,880 Speaker 2: We met and something else that came up when we 888 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 2: were talking in the production meeting is like the fact 889 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 2: that you mentioned in the story there, like you're returning 890 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,360 Speaker 2: kicks and so now returners like you return like you 891 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,239 Speaker 2: don't do anything else. It's like you return to punt, 892 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 2: return to kick, you go sit on the bench, have 893 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 2: some water when it's your turnment you covered kicks. Yeah, 894 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 2: so you played putt return, kickoff, you know, punt coverage, 895 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 2: kickoff coverage. 896 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,879 Speaker 1: Eight total tack because I had that in one game. 897 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 3: But congratulations, you know he don't do it, you know, 898 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 3: but will you do it? 899 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 1: We know for never if he did that? 900 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:55,239 Speaker 4: Was I felt that the fact that I was able 901 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,399 Speaker 4: to cover kicks, it gave me an opportunity to help 902 00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 4: my calls. 903 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 1: Did you do that your whole career? You could did 904 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,759 Speaker 1: every I was the person protected my whole career. You 905 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 1: were the person protector on punt team your whole career. 906 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,839 Speaker 1: Because I know you were coming down and smacking something. 907 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 4: I hear you, I may run a fake direct snap 908 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,880 Speaker 4: to me get on the center, like we had players 909 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,279 Speaker 4: when I would get on the center run plays. 910 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:17,160 Speaker 1: I need to stop it. 911 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:17,319 Speaker 4: Man. 912 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 1: So the more you hear about what he's done, it 913 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 1: makes you that much. 914 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 2: So mad for non football people, like the personal protector 915 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,239 Speaker 2: is like the quarterback of your special team. Yes he is, 916 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 2: He's gonna make the team every year. And so have 917 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:33,279 Speaker 2: your returner also be your PP. Call the protections. They're 918 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 2: the third gunner technically, like go down and be that significant. 919 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:38,239 Speaker 2: I just I don't know. 920 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 1: The more I hear about it sounds like you're talking, 921 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:42,440 Speaker 1: we need to get me missed auf this show. I'm 922 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:43,279 Speaker 1: getting pissed off. 923 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:49,759 Speaker 3: They don't make no you did all it tell me 924 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,600 Speaker 3: about the fourteen years that one miss game? 925 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 1: You only miss one? Yeah, you think what happened? I 926 00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:01,719 Speaker 1: think it was the last game of our my rookie season. 927 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 4: Where we were going to the playoffs, and Coach Gibbs, 928 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 4: I practice, this is the It pisses me off so much. 929 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:08,040 Speaker 1: I practice every. 930 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 4: Day that week, every day, and then in the game 931 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:12,520 Speaker 4: he was like, now we're going to hold you. I 932 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:14,680 Speaker 4: had like a spring ankle and we were playing in 933 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:18,759 Speaker 4: the Silver Dome on that and that's the only game 934 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:19,320 Speaker 4: I missed. 935 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:21,319 Speaker 1: If I hadn't known that would be the only game. 936 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,040 Speaker 4: But I did run on the field one time because 937 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 4: they needed somebody to go for kick coverage, and. 938 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,480 Speaker 1: He pulled me right off the field. That mercy. So 939 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 1: I missed one, but it was that game was in 940 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:35,600 Speaker 1: my rookie you sidressed, you're still That's not it, he 941 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 1: sued up. Every game, did not play you se every game? Yeah, 942 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:42,680 Speaker 1: that's crazy, dude. I'm like, I'm kind of like, you know, 943 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 1: it's it's funny join joint clue. 944 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,719 Speaker 2: I get to work with Santana and Fred and all 945 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,480 Speaker 2: and then like but then you hear about this and 946 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:52,800 Speaker 2: it's like the stuff of legend. 947 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,400 Speaker 1: Like if maybe football people don't get it, maybe people understand, 948 00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,759 Speaker 1: but like the cover kicks can't do all that. To man, 949 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,920 Speaker 1: you running back towing, somebody take care of your body. 950 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:07,239 Speaker 1: You need my dog, you know, had none of that, huh. 951 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:11,359 Speaker 4: I started doing acupuncture and massage and chiropractor work when 952 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,000 Speaker 4: I got to Philly, So I was in all these 953 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,520 Speaker 4: years here and then I never even you mad about 954 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 4: you land that It was like he said, sure, he say, baby, 955 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you this is the way that you 956 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:24,200 Speaker 4: you keep yourself together. 957 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,319 Speaker 1: He said, you've done a good job so far. Who 958 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:27,440 Speaker 1: is your person? You know? 959 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 5: D C. 960 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,360 Speaker 1: I say me, what did you do? Did you just 961 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,560 Speaker 1: the ways I stretched my butt off? They were just 962 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:39,680 Speaker 1: cutting out because never been in a cold tub. 963 00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 4: What I said, like Tim Brown was one of you 964 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,080 Speaker 4: said brout for years on your life. 965 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:49,680 Speaker 1: And after I started doing cold tub, bro, you feel 966 00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:50,319 Speaker 1: like a new person. 967 00:42:55,560 --> 00:43:00,520 Speaker 3: I thought the devil lived. It was so and that 968 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 3: was my first time getting into colture that with d 969 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,520 Speaker 3: Green like see that, don't get in there. 970 00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,120 Speaker 5: Yeah. See, I tell you one thing until you have 971 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:08,799 Speaker 5: to have a little luck on your side, because that's 972 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,839 Speaker 5: how it was in college. In college, the only thing 973 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,600 Speaker 5: that I did for those four years of playing this 974 00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 5: broke my jaw. And I told you about that. I 975 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,600 Speaker 5: put a player in there and play amidst one game. 976 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:21,760 Speaker 5: But far as far as loyal stremities and like bones 977 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,560 Speaker 5: and stuff, I didn't really hurt anything. Then I get 978 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,719 Speaker 5: to the pros, I hurt my knee and I feel 979 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,239 Speaker 5: like everything just went you know what I mean? Like now, 980 00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,279 Speaker 5: because no one tells you that, Okay, you hurt this, 981 00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,600 Speaker 5: but hurt so it's going somewhere else. Something else is 982 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:37,920 Speaker 5: going to compensate, compensate for us, and you have to 983 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,279 Speaker 5: make sure everything is lined. No one told me they 984 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 5: think when my knee got a little bit better, all right, 985 00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:43,319 Speaker 5: get back out there. 986 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:44,719 Speaker 1: We want to see you run fast, you know what 987 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:45,000 Speaker 1: I mean. 988 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,960 Speaker 5: So it's like almost a disadvantage to you as an 989 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,319 Speaker 5: athlete not to have the right people to be able 990 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:51,239 Speaker 5: to tell you what you need. 991 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,120 Speaker 1: When I was in college, we had a coach named 992 00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:54,839 Speaker 1: Brad Rolle. 993 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,360 Speaker 4: He was our strength and he would go to Russia 994 00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,120 Speaker 4: two three weeks a year and he comes back with 995 00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:03,200 Speaker 4: all of these drills and we would have we did 996 00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,480 Speaker 4: all We did Olympic lifts with power, clean, all that stuff. 997 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,720 Speaker 4: And then I came to d C and Dan Roley 998 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,800 Speaker 4: was here. Dan Roleiy was the guru of all of 999 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,960 Speaker 4: the strength coaches, about five six by one hundred six five, 1000 00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:17,839 Speaker 4: the strongest guy you want to see in your life. 1001 00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,359 Speaker 4: But he was, like I said, coach man. We got 1002 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,640 Speaker 4: into an argument and then going got into a wrestling 1003 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:26,440 Speaker 4: match because he wanted me. 1004 00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:27,040 Speaker 1: To lift weights. 1005 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:28,920 Speaker 4: I said that's too light and he said, hey, you 1006 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,040 Speaker 4: gonna tell me. I said, coach, that's too light for me. 1007 00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:35,040 Speaker 4: He's like, you are quarterback telling me, what's light? I said, 1008 00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,160 Speaker 4: He said, what do you think you could lift? I said, 1009 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,520 Speaker 4: put put three fifteen on the bar and he like, 1010 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:41,600 Speaker 4: you won't be able to move it. And I wrapped 1011 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:46,160 Speaker 4: it and then he and Ivy gave friends. He's like, well, dude, 1012 00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:47,120 Speaker 4: what do you lift? 1013 00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:47,719 Speaker 1: And I told him my. 1014 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:51,200 Speaker 4: Weights so he would let me come and when nobody 1015 00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,520 Speaker 4: else was here and let me do Olympic with this. 1016 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:55,960 Speaker 1: Do you remember because the other guys he didn't want 1017 00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,000 Speaker 1: him to do it because guys get hurt. Do you 1018 00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:01,320 Speaker 1: remember any of your numbers? Like your squad bench. 1019 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,720 Speaker 4: Leaving on leaving out of college, My squad was six fifteen, 1020 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:08,960 Speaker 4: four thirty five and Paul Clean three eighty five. 1021 00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:17,920 Speaker 8: Dogs about to say, boy, and that's why you was 1022 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,279 Speaker 8: running through people like that makes that stay you build 1023 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,239 Speaker 8: that you build so much of a basement And it 1024 00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:23,600 Speaker 8: was like. 1025 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:27,040 Speaker 3: Your lieutenants and ligaments must have been crazy shit this 1026 00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:28,720 Speaker 3: and I was just throwing that three fifteen. 1027 00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 1: You know, however, they need me to how much did 1028 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,719 Speaker 1: you live in the corbine? He ain't do one twenty five? 1029 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:36,440 Speaker 5: I know I did. 1030 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:41,239 Speaker 3: I did twenty five at one time? What I told 1031 00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,160 Speaker 3: him because I ain't doing it to come back. I 1032 00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,000 Speaker 3: needed my private workout of mass some mistaken you wait 1033 00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:49,000 Speaker 3: out there for one one rep, right, So I get 1034 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:50,759 Speaker 3: in there, I do the water rep. 1035 00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:55,480 Speaker 1: We ain't even clean. I do the one rep. 1036 00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:55,600 Speaker 5: Did. 1037 00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:56,920 Speaker 1: I get up and say, y'all ain't come to see 1038 00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:58,320 Speaker 1: me and live weights. Y'all came to see me. 1039 00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:11,720 Speaker 4: Run let's go outside seven. I went there and blaze, 1040 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:18,239 Speaker 4: I R. I really believe my brother Darryl. When I 1041 00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:22,239 Speaker 4: was twelve, Daryl was playing varsity football and I would 1042 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,279 Speaker 4: go to the gym with him. I started lifting a 1043 00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:28,440 Speaker 4: little bit, and then I wouldn't do bench press in 1044 00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,120 Speaker 4: college because I remember saying, what's one of the horror 1045 00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,080 Speaker 4: move where they dropped the Yeah? 1046 00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,200 Speaker 1: No, they dropped it on the next hour. 1047 00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,840 Speaker 4: Every time I go to business, all I saw so 1048 00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:41,080 Speaker 4: coach and LEVI I'm like, coach, Yeah, I got my reps. 1049 00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,879 Speaker 1: And then I got to college and Brad Rode. 1050 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,200 Speaker 4: He laid under the bench and he had a towel. 1051 00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:51,879 Speaker 4: So you're doing like the which called I forgot. You're 1052 00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,439 Speaker 4: doing stress up here. I'm holding the towel and he's 1053 00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:59,040 Speaker 4: holding it against me. I'm lifting bro. The next day 1054 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:00,920 Speaker 4: I could not get out the bink. I couldn't push. 1055 00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:02,000 Speaker 1: Myself up, and that's something different. 1056 00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:03,799 Speaker 4: But then all of a sudden, I started to bench 1057 00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,200 Speaker 4: a little bit. Then I began to lift with the 1058 00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:11,279 Speaker 4: bigger guys, and then I started lifting more than them. Bro, 1059 00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:15,640 Speaker 4: you talking about adrenaline rush. Now, I'm trying to embarrass you. 1060 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:17,640 Speaker 4: So he would always say who you gonna lift with? 1061 00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,480 Speaker 1: Today? I say, which which your office alignment? You want 1062 00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,560 Speaker 1: to push? So I lift. Took pride in that, and 1063 00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:25,960 Speaker 1: they're like, whoa man, how we gonna lift together? Little? 1064 00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:29,160 Speaker 1: I said the little guy, I say, you got the lightweight. 1065 00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:33,160 Speaker 1: I got the That was the quarterback. You also got 1066 00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:33,320 Speaker 1: to be. 1067 00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,839 Speaker 5: You knew you were't gonna play country made, country born 1068 00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:37,920 Speaker 5: and made and raised, so you gotta. 1069 00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:44,320 Speaker 1: Y'all got a yard a little different than there, all 1070 00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,960 Speaker 1: the good stuff. Your chores wasn't just go outside and play. 1071 00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,319 Speaker 1: You had to go outside to do. I had all 1072 00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,280 Speaker 1: kinds of that. I grew up. Bro In My backyard 1073 00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:56,000 Speaker 1: was a pigs, cows, all kind of you. You had 1074 00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,680 Speaker 1: to work. We worked. Your blue jeans ain't never had 1075 00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,960 Speaker 1: they wouldn't a clean. Well. Sometimes you do this and 1076 00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:04,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I kind of get why you know 1077 00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:08,400 Speaker 1: they're not that, but with bemuch, I understand. It's like 1078 00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,759 Speaker 1: I say, it's no reason I told you to dude 1079 00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:11,480 Speaker 1: that last year. 1080 00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:15,120 Speaker 3: Like some numbers speak for themself. And I understand guys 1081 00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,680 Speaker 3: being on the fence. This ain't on the fence situation 1082 00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:22,160 Speaker 3: over the fence. He's sitting there like you're looking at you, 1083 00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,640 Speaker 3: you're looking over this is over looking right at you. 1084 00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,520 Speaker 3: And they clearly do it over and over again. Though 1085 00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,040 Speaker 3: that's just what I don't understand. 1086 00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,400 Speaker 2: Like, I mean, I understand doing it over again, but 1087 00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,400 Speaker 2: like this is a this is like this resume, Like 1088 00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,120 Speaker 2: if I got this resume, I'm like, you're overqualified. 1089 00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you. Maybe that's why you're not you can't 1090 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,440 Speaker 1: be a teacher. That's why you're too qualified for feel like. 1091 00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:45,160 Speaker 5: I feel like that with a college football Hall of Fame, 1092 00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:46,360 Speaker 5: I mean they tell you you have to do this, 1093 00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:47,640 Speaker 5: do this and this, and then you be like, I 1094 00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:48,680 Speaker 5: check all these boxes. 1095 00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, what you mean? I was all American the whole time. 1096 00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:59,800 Speaker 1: And that's another one. Not me. 1097 00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:05,520 Speaker 4: He always say he was the first guy to pass 1098 00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,759 Speaker 4: for five dollars for three thousands in the college career. Well, 1099 00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,279 Speaker 4: why is he still sitting them in and I ran 1100 00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:12,720 Speaker 4: forty something touchdown the college. 1101 00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:17,480 Speaker 1: Well, he's over quarter. We don't need to put it in. 1102 00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:19,840 Speaker 1: I can sell the water. I can sell the wheel 1103 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:23,200 Speaker 1: of water, all right, but I can't rely not. Hey, 1104 00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:28,120 Speaker 1: this seems like an easy sell, that is all. Grandmama 1105 00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:31,400 Speaker 1: always said. This life is easy. People make it complicated. 1106 00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:35,040 Speaker 1: Just email this script to you need. You need to 1107 00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:38,440 Speaker 1: see what happens, views and listeners. I'm getting my shirt. 1108 00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:42,320 Speaker 3: I'm getting it made, damn shame, Hall of Fame, and 1109 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:44,479 Speaker 3: I'm putting three names on the back of his shirt. 1110 00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,640 Speaker 1: Three names and I put their stats. Yeah, all right, 1111 00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:49,840 Speaker 1: and I'm a weird that's a good idea like that. 1112 00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:55,080 Speaker 1: All right, get me shirt, But I think I gonna 1113 00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,600 Speaker 1: do it for today's show. Just remember, vote for the podcast, 1114 00:49:57,800 --> 00:49:58,839 Speaker 1: vote for the shows. Right. 1115 00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:02,680 Speaker 2: We got hard, we got Brian Colbert show, we got Haltals, 1116 00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:04,319 Speaker 2: Hail Tales has the body bag game. 1117 00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:08,000 Speaker 1: That's this week show. And get a Hall of Fight Pa, 1118 00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:13,440 Speaker 1: get him here. Saw that one. Check out Hell's Teals. Yeah, 1119 00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:15,080 Speaker 1: let's give the Hall of Fame as much as let's 1120 00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,160 Speaker 1: give him here. And then that's it. 1121 00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:17,440 Speaker 5: Man. 1122 00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:19,200 Speaker 2: Make sure you vote, make sure you get buy your 1123 00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:20,879 Speaker 2: tickets here. That's what you do it for today show. 1124 00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:21,360 Speaker 2: Appreciate you. 1125 00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:23,319 Speaker 1: I'm trying to get big head in there and big 1126 00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:24,000 Speaker 1: bag in there. 1127 00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:38,880 Speaker 3: You haven't seen Jose Kobe, Yeah, Kobe Jojahkvid hands a 1128 00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,120 Speaker 3: huge shooks went. 1129 00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:42,279 Speaker 1: Now my my uncle