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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Official Jets Podcast powered

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Speaker 1: by Amazon Web Services, the Opponent Preview series. Rolling on.

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Speaker 1: Here Ethan Greenberg Eric Allen talking Jets Seahawks in week fourteen,

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Speaker 1: and we spoke to Joe Fan who's the Seahawks insider

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Speaker 1: for NBC Sports Northwest out in Seattle and e A

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Speaker 1: this game. Yes, it's difficult, but it also marks the

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Speaker 1: first game of a pretty difficult stretch for the Jets,

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Speaker 1: as they only have four more games at this point

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Speaker 1: in this season when they cross passed with the Seahawks. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and we're just talking about it before we started taping.

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Speaker 1: Is that this is a stretch where the Jets will

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Speaker 1: finish with three or four on the road West Coast,

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Speaker 1: back to back pair starting with the Seahawks. Then followed

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Speaker 1: that up with the game against the Rams and walt

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Speaker 1: to see if the Green and Whites stay out there

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Speaker 1: out west to practice for a week, for coming home

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Speaker 1: for a week and then ending of the season against

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Speaker 1: the New England Patriots. So what you'd like to do

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Speaker 1: if you're the Jets is make some headway early in

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Speaker 1: this season. Seattle traditionally has been one of the toughest

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Speaker 1: places to play in the National Football League. Century Lake

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Speaker 1: Bield gets so loud there, and one of the primary

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Speaker 1: reasons is that it's so tough to play. Is Russell

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Speaker 1: Wilson is unbelievable. I mean, you're just I can't believe.

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Speaker 1: He's been in the National Football League eight years already,

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Speaker 1: but eighty six forty one and one as a starter

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Speaker 1: six passer throughout the course of his career, has thrown

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Speaker 1: for almost thirty thousand yards with two d and twenty

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Speaker 1: seven touchdowns in just sixty eight interceptions. Last year, he

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Speaker 1: was the guy who kept the Seahawks afloat. They almost

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Speaker 1: were the NFC's top overall seed, and if they got that,

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Speaker 1: would they've been the team representing the NFC in the

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Speaker 1: super Wall. Bottom line is you got Pete Carroll coaching,

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Speaker 1: you have Russell Wilson at quarterback. You have a pair

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Speaker 1: like that, You're always gonna have a chance to win

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Speaker 1: the whole thing. It almost feels like, and maybe I'm

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Speaker 1: wrong here, so please correct me if you feel otherwise,

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Speaker 1: but it almost feels like Russell Wilson out East maybe

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Speaker 1: doesn't get the credit he deserves. I feel like a

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Speaker 1: lot of people think, yes, Russell Wilson's a great quarterback,

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Speaker 1: and then you see him in person and you're like,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, this guy, this guy's probably a little

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Speaker 1: better than we had originally thought. And I think the

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Speaker 1: same thing goes for the Seahawks overall, because it feels

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Speaker 1: like the Seahawks or that team that's always in the

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Speaker 1: playoff mix. Well, to your point what you just said,

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Speaker 1: the Seahawks were almost the NFC's number one seed overall,

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Speaker 1: and that division is so tough, and it just feels

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Speaker 1: like it almost feels like the Seahawks don't get the

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Speaker 1: proper credit that they deserve. And I'm curious if you

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Speaker 1: feel the same where you think I'm going a little

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Speaker 1: bit crazy. I don't think you're going crazy. I think

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Speaker 1: that when we're gonna talk about the NFL's top quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: I guess that should start with Patrick Mahomes. But if

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Speaker 1: you look at Russell Wilson, what he's done over the

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Speaker 1: course of his eight years, and he's one one championship,

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Speaker 1: very nearly too. We know what Malcolm Butler did taking

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Speaker 1: that Super Bowl away from the Seahawks when they did

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Speaker 1: not run Marshawn Lynch, and that's gonna be talked about forever.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, he's as good as any passer in this league,

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Speaker 1: bottom line, and the Seahawks have been consistent winners. But

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Speaker 1: that just shows you how hard it is to win

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Speaker 1: in this league, the Ultimate Prize, because Russell Wilson has

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Speaker 1: been fantastic for eight years and he's only got one title.

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Speaker 1: And I say only that just speaks to how difficult

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Speaker 1: it is to ultimate only bring home a championship. And

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Speaker 1: think of Russell Wilson. Aaron Rodgers is now in his

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Speaker 1: mid thirties and he's got one ring. It is tough

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Speaker 1: to bring home that hardware, no doubt about it. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: for my mommy, Russell Wilson is as good as anybody.

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Speaker 1: And I put even Mahomes in that mix. I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying he can make the plays that Mahomes can, but

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Speaker 1: think about what he did last year. Sixty pass from

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Speaker 1: more than four thousand yards, thirty one touchdowns and five interceptions.

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Speaker 1: So not only is he a prolific passer, but he

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Speaker 1: does not turn the football over. Ever, he doesn't turn

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Speaker 1: it over, and they had offensive line problems last year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the Jets have a difficult matchup on defense going to

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Speaker 1: about that, but first let's hear from Joe Fan to

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Speaker 1: give us an in depth look at this Jet Seahawks matchup. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: this team starts with Russell Wilson, but what do you

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Speaker 1: make about the entire team that the Seahawks have entering

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Speaker 1: two thousand twenty. Well, like you mentioned, when you have

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Speaker 1: in my opinion, is the top three quarterback in this league,

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Speaker 1: other teams just right off the bat, right. I mean,

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Speaker 1: And you've seen that, especially last year with how many

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Speaker 1: Week seventeen to win the division against the Niners. Then

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Speaker 1: they have a bunch of numbers back right. They added

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Speaker 1: But can they replace Dadavian Clowney. They used the second

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Speaker 1: I think it's conceivable, But you know, given how many

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Speaker 1: And this is one of the teams that if they

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Speaker 1: going to finish. Uh this upcoming season, Joe, what did

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Speaker 1: Perhaps something that defensive coordinator Greg Williams could take a

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Speaker 1: It's it's it's like, you know, I don't want to

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Speaker 1: Schottenheimer and the rest of the offense. But it just

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Speaker 1: For me, it's all about containing Bobby Wagner. But he

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Speaker 1: are holes that you can take advantage of. All Right, Well,

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Speaker 1: that was another edition of the Official Jets podcast powered

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Speaker 1: by Amazon Web Services. The Opponent series, Staying Out West

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Speaker 1: for the Jets is third and final trip on the

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