WEBVTT - AEW WrestleDream: Was Clockwork Carnage a Hit? 0:00:01.550 --> 0:00:06.039 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Battlegrounds! 0:00:06.780 --> 0:00:08.540 Battlegrounds! 0:00:08.580 --> 0:00:14.570 Battlegrounds! Turn it up! Let the whole world know! 0:00:14.630 --> 0:00:16.470 Battlegrounds Podcasts! 0:00:19.260 --> 0:00:22.250 Yeah, so here we go. Back at it again. WrestleDream 0:00:22.290 --> 0:00:23.329 just concluded. 0:00:23.690 --> 0:00:26.410 And before we talk about WrestleDream, first let me say 0:00:26.470 --> 0:00:27.950 welcome into the Battleground podcast. 0:00:28.010 --> 0:00:28.550 It's battle. 0:00:28.610 --> 0:00:31.090 It's Eli, no Josh this week. We're going to be 0:00:31.130 --> 0:00:33.290 talking a lot of things AEW on this episode. But 0:00:33.330 --> 0:00:36.150 before we talk about our thoughts on WrestleDreams, I do 0:00:36.190 --> 0:00:38.550 want to talk about one of the big things coming 0:00:38.590 --> 0:00:43.230 out of AEW last week. Adam Copeland said 2027 is 0:00:43.270 --> 0:00:43.770 his year. 0:00:44.050 --> 0:00:49.250 It's done. He is retiring. He is leaving wrestling. I 0:00:49.310 --> 0:00:53.120 think awesome. Great. I know that he wants to. 0:00:53.060 --> 0:00:55.900 Win an AEW World Heavyweight Championship and you automatically know 0:00:55.920 --> 0:00:57.960 that he's going to get it because Tony likes Adam 0:00:58.000 --> 0:01:01.580 Copeland and it's a feel-good story. But do you think 0:01:01.640 --> 0:01:03.660 he needs to win it on his final year that 0:01:03.700 --> 0:01:05.540 he's going out of wrestling just so they could say, 0:01:05.720 --> 0:01:11.170 Adam Copeland, former AEW World Champion? Um.... 0:01:12.730 --> 0:01:15.580 Because I don't see him beating Ospreay for it. 0:01:15.970 --> 0:01:18.300 Yeah, well, they did have a. 0:01:19.200 --> 0:01:22.480 little interaction or something. And he, Osprey did ask him 0:01:22.550 --> 0:01:24.370 if next year is his final year. He said, yes. 0:01:24.430 --> 0:01:26.050 And he said, save a date for me. So it 0:01:26.569 --> 0:01:28.490 definitely looks like they're hinting at it. 0:01:29.490 --> 0:01:36.490 Um, I don't, um, I don't know. 0:01:36.510 --> 0:01:38.750 I was kind of thinking about it in terms of 0:01:39.370 --> 0:01:43.010 when Danielson beats were, and that's a. 0:01:43.020 --> 0:01:45.440 Little different just because. 0:01:44.880 --> 0:01:49.300 I don't know. He, he, he was still, a little 0:01:49.340 --> 0:01:51.220 bit younger than Edge, and I don't mean it that way. 0:01:51.260 --> 0:01:53.840 I just mean he was still kind of more in 0:01:53.860 --> 0:01:57.860 his prime, so it made more sense. I'm not so sure. 0:01:57.880 --> 0:02:03.440 He did face Moxley for the title last year or 0:02:03.480 --> 0:02:08.140 two years ago when it was. I mean, I guess I. 0:02:08.100 --> 0:02:10.110 Could see him doing it as a feel-good story. 0:02:10.160 --> 0:02:13.970 But from a competitive standpoint, it doesn't make sense for 0:02:13.990 --> 0:02:14.850 him to beat Ospreay. 0:02:15.889 --> 0:02:16.029 No. 0:02:16.050 --> 0:02:19.540 It's got to be somebody like maybe Copeland beating MJF. 0:02:20.020 --> 0:02:25.480 Now, that's what I was about to say. Someone asked 0:02:25.500 --> 0:02:31.060 Ospreay about MJF at the media scrum last night and 0:02:31.500 --> 0:02:34.320 basically called him a fake champion and asked Tony to 0:02:34.360 --> 0:02:37.570 settle it. And he's like, you know where to find me, bitch. Sorry. 0:02:37.990 --> 0:02:42.690 Because MJF's still touting around Triple B, right? Because he 0:02:43.090 --> 0:02:46.070 did that New Japan promo and he still had the title. 0:02:46.090 --> 0:02:48.550 And I'm like, is this kind of like going back 0:02:48.590 --> 0:02:50.590 to when they did that whole thing with like CM 0:02:50.630 --> 0:02:52.630 Punk having the spray painted championship? 0:02:52.690 --> 0:02:57.370 Like, yeah. And a lot of people aren't, I mean, 0:02:57.410 --> 0:03:00.860 it wasn't great when punk did it and it doesn't 0:03:00.880 --> 0:03:02.900 make a lot of sense now, but I could see 0:03:02.940 --> 0:03:06.800 there being a three-way match with them three. Um, but, 0:03:08.240 --> 0:03:11.900 but yeah, um, the, the project that keep, hinting at 0:03:12.060 --> 0:03:14.340 with this, we haven't discussed yet. Um, I'm in her, 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:18.490 I'm talking to, um, miss Copeland, um, this week about that. 0:03:18.590 --> 0:03:22.280 So I'll, I'll pick her brain about all that stuff. But, uh, 0:03:22.610 --> 0:03:24.650 other than that, I mean, the, you know, we'll get 0:03:24.690 --> 0:03:27.430 into it later, but the main event was crazy. And, 0:03:27.570 --> 0:03:30.310 you know, you, you had Copeland in there with Okada and, uh, 0:03:31.200 --> 0:03:35.500 Samoa Joe and Oscar, obviously. And I mean, it was awesome, 0:03:35.700 --> 0:03:35.920 you know? 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:36.619 So, yeah. 0:03:37.200 --> 0:03:40.270 And I, I think, I think this is good. I, I, I, 0:03:40.680 --> 0:03:42.740 I'm excited to see what they're going to do with 0:03:42.800 --> 0:03:45.970 this retirement tour with Copeland. Cause I mean, he's already 0:03:46.380 --> 0:03:48.390 fought a bunch of the people, but yeah, give me, 0:03:48.490 --> 0:03:51.610 give me Copeland and, and, and Okada. I know we 0:03:51.630 --> 0:03:53.410 saw it last night, but give me a one-on-one with them. 0:03:53.450 --> 0:03:54.590 Give me a one-on-one with. 0:03:54.510 --> 0:03:57.870 Him and Osprey. Give me a one-on-one with Copeland and D'Costa. 0:03:58.170 --> 0:04:00.900 Like there's a lot of fun matches that we're going 0:04:00.920 --> 0:04:03.420 to be able to see in this, this, this run of, 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:06.520 you know, Copeland retirement tour. Mm-hmm. 0:04:07.650 --> 0:04:09.510 Um, and then what happens after that? 0:04:09.710 --> 0:04:10.170 I don't know. 0:04:10.230 --> 0:04:12.590 Maybe he does something with maple leaf pro like he 0:04:12.610 --> 0:04:15.170 did before. Maybe he's like more of a backstage guy. 0:04:15.250 --> 0:04:18.610 Maybe he's a producer. Maybe Tony keeps him on the payroll. 0:04:18.650 --> 0:04:21.669 So he doesn't, you know, go over to WWE and 0:04:21.710 --> 0:04:24.450 they do like one little pop-up thing. I mean, who 0:04:24.500 --> 0:04:26.520 knows what's going to happen between now and a year 0:04:26.560 --> 0:04:29.080 when Copeland's done. Uh, but it'll be fun to see 0:04:29.100 --> 0:04:31.260 some of the fun matches that they're going to do. Right. 0:04:31.339 --> 0:04:33.840 And I think, you know, he's mentioned he wants to 0:04:33.860 --> 0:04:37.380 do like the Tokyo dome and, Um, I, he, he 0:04:37.420 --> 0:04:41.340 did arena Mexico, I think this year. Um, and then 0:04:41.380 --> 0:04:45.580 I think the, probably the plan is to have his 0:04:45.620 --> 0:04:47.240 final match probably in Toronto, I guess. 0:04:47.580 --> 0:04:49.670 Yeah. Cause I think that's where they're like, there was 0:04:49.710 --> 0:04:53.870 reports going out that, uh, the all in all out. 0:04:53.930 --> 0:04:56.170 One of the two might be in Toronto. So I 0:04:56.210 --> 0:04:59.710 could see that being happening there. Um, but, uh, but yeah, 0:04:59.750 --> 0:05:02.690 so let's, let's kind of just dive into wrestle dream. 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:07.510 I mean, Saturday night pay-per-view, uh, the, the, the tailgate 0:05:07.540 --> 0:05:10.420 brawl was pretty cool. You had divine dominion versus sisters 0:05:10.480 --> 0:05:15.339 of sin. Uh, you had, uh, Jack Doyle, Josh Alexander 0:05:15.380 --> 0:05:17.300 and Wardlow taken on three jobbers. 0:05:18.380 --> 0:05:20.160 Um, it was a fun squash match. 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:20.900 Yeah. 0:05:20.940 --> 0:05:23.400 Wardlow is over as he ever was. 0:05:23.660 --> 0:05:26.080 Oh, absolutely. And glad to see that he's back too. 0:05:26.260 --> 0:05:30.870 Yeah. I mean, he looks yak and, um, he, uh, Yeah, 0:05:31.150 --> 0:05:34.070 so hopefully this run is finally the one that gains 0:05:34.110 --> 0:05:36.690 the momentum and stuff. 0:05:36.790 --> 0:05:40.070 And then, of course, you had, continuing on with the 0:05:40.330 --> 0:05:43.279 tailgate brawl, you had the Dogs and the Death Riders 0:05:43.300 --> 0:05:46.080 versus the conglomeration in the Bang Bang game, which we 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:50.060 got the return of Jay White, which I was excited about, 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:51.940 because I know we talked about it before, like he 0:05:51.980 --> 0:05:54.290 was injured, but we didn't know how bad the injury was, 0:05:54.370 --> 0:05:56.010 and hopefully. 0:05:55.290 --> 0:05:59.010 He can stay healthy this go-around, because.... 0:06:00.460 --> 0:06:03.780 The Bang Bang Gang without Jay White is just, it's 0:06:03.820 --> 0:06:04.200 just them. 0:06:04.640 --> 0:06:07.620 Yeah, it's fun, but it's not as, you know. And 0:06:07.640 --> 0:06:10.800 a lot of people, I think, me included, kind of 0:06:10.860 --> 0:06:14.170 assumed Jay White would be more in the world title picture. 0:06:14.490 --> 0:06:17.410 Yeah. I figured he'd already have the title. 0:06:17.730 --> 0:06:18.690 Yeah, a lot of people. 0:06:18.710 --> 0:06:23.130 But maybe because the injuries, maybe they're like, hmm. 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:26.810 I think he's just kind of gotten injured at the 0:06:26.830 --> 0:06:29.710 wrong time, and I think the one he had, he 0:06:29.730 --> 0:06:30.810 was out a long time. 0:06:31.110 --> 0:06:31.290 Yeah. 0:06:32.650 --> 0:06:34.310 But it was a huge pop. 0:06:34.350 --> 0:06:37.309 The other match that I was surprised that was on 0:06:37.330 --> 0:06:40.640 the pre-show, but it trickled over into the main show, 0:06:40.680 --> 0:06:42.120 was the FTR versus Motor. 0:06:42.550 --> 0:06:45.030 motor city machine guns, the best of five series for this. 0:06:45.950 --> 0:06:48.290 I figured that would have at least been on the actual, Hey, 0:06:48.310 --> 0:06:50.630 you got to buy the pay-per-view, but I do like 0:06:50.670 --> 0:06:53.130 what AEW is doing now is they're putting this in 0:06:53.150 --> 0:06:54.330 there and it's still going. 0:06:54.450 --> 0:06:55.700 And then they trickle. 0:06:55.460 --> 0:06:58.739 Over into the pay-per-view and like the pyro is going 0:06:58.860 --> 0:07:00.779 off in the middle of the match. Like, I like that. 0:07:00.820 --> 0:07:02.479 I know it's kind of cheesy. It's kind of corny, 0:07:03.320 --> 0:07:06.870 but it's, it's fun to watch. But that FTR and 0:07:06.900 --> 0:07:08.730 motor city machine guns, obviously is going to be a 0:07:08.770 --> 0:07:11.350 good one. Motor City Machine Guns picking up the win. 0:07:11.490 --> 0:07:13.930 What was your thoughts on this match between these two teams? 0:07:15.130 --> 0:07:18.530 I mean, it delivered, you know. I was also surprised 0:07:18.550 --> 0:07:21.230 it was on the undercard. But once they announced that, 0:07:21.270 --> 0:07:22.570 I was kind of like, okay, they're going to do 0:07:22.610 --> 0:07:25.580 the intro thing they've been doing. I just hope they 0:07:25.600 --> 0:07:29.300 don't overdo that because they've done it a lot now. And, 0:07:30.560 --> 0:07:32.380 you know, the first couple times it was just kind 0:07:32.400 --> 0:07:34.260 of like, oh, that's really cool. But now it's like 0:07:34.280 --> 0:07:36.460 I don't want it to be overused kind of a deal. 0:07:36.900 --> 0:07:37.080 Right. 0:07:37.460 --> 0:07:39.640 It definitely kind of kicks the match in the pants 0:07:39.700 --> 0:07:41.380 a little bit like, Oh, here we go. And there's 0:07:41.440 --> 0:07:45.040 pyro and just, you know, um, so it is kind 0:07:45.060 --> 0:07:52.460 of a different way to start everything, but, um, yeah, um, yeah, man, it's, um, um, 0:07:53.260 --> 0:07:54.679 motor city has not missed a step. 0:07:55.360 --> 0:08:00.020 And, um, that Alex Shelley diving DDT was, yeah. 0:08:00.900 --> 0:08:05.120 Um, they both, the crowd was chanting for both of them. Um, 0:08:05.820 --> 0:08:10.100 And so hopefully we get the full five series with them. 0:08:10.180 --> 0:08:17.170 But I think there's been a lot of, I don't know, complaining, 0:08:17.230 --> 0:08:21.690 I guess, about Motor City since they signed because they 0:08:21.730 --> 0:08:25.150 debuted and then kind of disappeared. But they were on 0:08:25.210 --> 0:08:27.650 tour with their band. So like they kind of already 0:08:27.690 --> 0:08:31.510 had an agreement set up. Tony just wanted them to 0:08:31.540 --> 0:08:34.340 debut in Detroit just, you know, for the pop and everything. 0:08:34.600 --> 0:08:35.220 Rightfully so. 0:08:35.660 --> 0:08:36.719 Yeah. 0:08:37.380 --> 0:08:39.720 But yeah, you know, I'm hoping that this. 0:08:41.679 --> 0:08:45.040 Just kind of almost ends up kind of like the 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:46.400 FTR Briscoes. 0:08:46.990 --> 0:08:48.030 Oh, that would be incredible. 0:08:48.110 --> 0:08:50.489 And the thing is, is like, like you said, these 0:08:50.550 --> 0:08:53.510 two teams have not missed a step. And recently we 0:08:53.550 --> 0:08:55.550 had Kyle Fletcher on the show, which if you want 0:08:55.570 --> 0:08:57.130 to go back and listen to that interview, you can. 0:08:58.130 --> 0:08:59.790 You look at what AEW has done. 0:08:59.820 --> 0:09:03.840 I will go ahead and say this. And Kyle said 0:09:03.860 --> 0:09:04.080 it too. 0:09:04.780 --> 0:09:07.850 I believe that AEW has the best tag team division 0:09:08.350 --> 0:09:14.930 of all the rosters, whether it's WWE, TNA, New Japan, AAA, CMLL. 0:09:15.370 --> 0:09:18.570 I mean, you look at the tag teams of there. 0:09:18.630 --> 0:09:21.429 You've got the new level because obviously we'll talk about that. 0:09:21.750 --> 0:09:23.439 There's a possibility that they're going to go, but you've 0:09:23.460 --> 0:09:25.860 got the box. You've got FTR, Motor City Machine Guns. 0:09:26.450 --> 0:09:29.010 You got the, you know, the random throw together of 0:09:29.030 --> 0:09:30.250 the Don Callis. 0:09:29.850 --> 0:09:31.050 Family you could throw out there. 0:09:31.910 --> 0:09:35.860 I mean, you just look at that tag division and 0:09:35.890 --> 0:09:42.080 it is stacked, you know, Copeland and Christian. I know 0:09:42.100 --> 0:09:44.739 I'm missing a couple of things, the conglomeration as well. 0:09:45.860 --> 0:09:48.100 They know how to do tag team wrestling well. And 0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:51.900 I think that that was the thing when AEW started was, hey, 0:09:52.080 --> 0:09:54.460 we know how to wrestle, but we know how to 0:09:54.600 --> 0:09:55.640 tag team wrestle. 0:09:55.880 --> 0:09:56.040 Yeah. 0:09:56.750 --> 0:09:59.030 I think having the Bucks as one of the founders 0:09:59.309 --> 0:10:02.579 definitely helped with that um but yeah i mean their 0:10:04.390 --> 0:10:09.840 their tag team division is just incredible um uh even 0:10:09.980 --> 0:10:11.400 even if you go to people you hadn't seen them 0:10:11.420 --> 0:10:14.080 while private party you know they're still killer i mean 0:10:14.100 --> 0:10:19.540 uh top flight you know there's just um a wealth of, uh, 0:10:19.740 --> 0:10:24.090 wealth of talent over there. Um, but, but yeah, it was, uh, I'm, 0:10:24.270 --> 0:10:27.250 I'm a huge tag team guy, obviously. So, um, those 0:10:27.290 --> 0:10:31.350 guys could wrestle every week and it'd be fine with me. 0:10:31.630 --> 0:10:32.490 Yeah, absolutely. 0:10:32.510 --> 0:10:35.120 Give it, give us, give us everything. I would love 0:10:35.179 --> 0:10:37.219 for them to do. And I think I talked to 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:40.060 this about Kyle. Maybe I would love to them to 0:10:40.100 --> 0:10:43.120 just do like, a pay-per-view where it's nothing but just 0:10:43.160 --> 0:10:45.780 tag team wrestling, because you could do a whole pay-per-view 0:10:45.820 --> 0:10:48.500 of just tag team wrestling with the guys and the girls. 0:10:49.690 --> 0:10:53.150 I mean, you could do some kind of, uh, Tag 0:10:53.190 --> 0:10:54.630 team turmoil, or I don't know. 0:10:54.750 --> 0:10:55.170 Yeah. 0:10:55.250 --> 0:10:58.070 I'm sure Tony loves those old WCW ones that WWE 0:10:58.270 --> 0:10:59.290 doesn't have their hands on. 0:10:59.350 --> 0:11:00.110 Find something. 0:11:00.450 --> 0:11:04.090 You could do some kind of cup, you know, like 0:11:04.230 --> 0:11:08.050 a one night event and almost like the cracker cup. 0:11:08.090 --> 0:11:08.550 Yeah. 0:11:08.870 --> 0:11:13.130 Um, You could bring in people from Maple Leaf and 0:11:13.320 --> 0:11:16.160 New Japan and CMLO and... Oh, 100%. 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:18.360 And it would sell. 0:11:19.260 --> 0:11:23.020 But as we move on, talking about WrestleDream, I guess 0:11:23.040 --> 0:11:27.709 the first official match on the card, you saw Mercedes 0:11:27.750 --> 0:11:30.110 Monet and Tekla go at it. Now, I know as 0:11:30.150 --> 0:11:32.390 I was scrolling through social media earlier before we started 0:11:32.410 --> 0:11:36.640 the show... There was a little bit of controversy surrounding 0:11:36.720 --> 0:11:39.880 the ending of that match because Tecla no sold it 0:11:39.920 --> 0:11:42.079 and then got out of the ring and then started dancing. 0:11:42.100 --> 0:11:47.950 I don't, I don't think this should be a bigger 0:11:47.990 --> 0:11:50.350 deal than what it is because that's just who Tecla's 0:11:50.390 --> 0:11:51.290 character is. 0:11:51.370 --> 0:11:52.210 Right. Yeah. 0:11:52.690 --> 0:11:56.770 But I also get the protection, protection of the business, right? 0:11:57.670 --> 0:11:59.920 You gotta know, you gotta sell it. And then her 0:11:59.940 --> 0:12:02.340 just getting out of the ring. But also there wasn't 0:12:02.420 --> 0:12:04.480 any cameras on her when she was getting out of 0:12:04.500 --> 0:12:07.380 the ring. So I don't think this should be as 0:12:07.440 --> 0:12:10.130 big of a deal as the IWC is making it. 0:12:10.140 --> 0:12:14.630 Right. I mean, I took it more as she was 0:12:14.650 --> 0:12:15.990 doing that for the live crowd. 0:12:16.850 --> 0:12:17.350 Exactly. 0:12:17.670 --> 0:12:21.189 You know, and so, I mean, there was a lot 0:12:21.250 --> 0:12:27.380 of entertainment value in this show. I mean, they crossed 0:12:27.440 --> 0:12:30.780 a lot of boxes with... the way they presented all 0:12:30.800 --> 0:12:34.160 the matches and the shows and stuff. So, um, yeah, 0:12:34.240 --> 0:12:38.660 you know, I knew it was too soon for Mercedes 0:12:38.700 --> 0:12:44.130 to drop, but I definitely want a tech little win. Um, she's, um, 0:12:45.270 --> 0:12:50.310 kind of like Luna Fajan mixed with like, I don't 0:12:50.330 --> 0:12:55.949 know somebody else. Um, right. And, um, almost maybe, uh. 0:12:56.830 --> 0:12:58.720 Maybe kind of like a miss Sherry on the mic. 0:12:59.250 --> 0:13:00.550 Yeah, Miss Sherry on the mic. 0:13:01.370 --> 0:13:02.210 Luna in the ring. 0:13:02.530 --> 0:13:05.059 Luna in the ring with a little bit of maybe Medusa. 0:13:05.080 --> 0:13:05.960 Yeah. 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:11.679 And so, I mean, I was excited for her to 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:14.240 come over in the first place and, you know, watching 0:13:14.260 --> 0:13:16.480 her get the belt kind of quickly and have a 0:13:16.520 --> 0:13:19.860 pretty decent reign. I know she's going to get it 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:21.900 again at some point, but I just think that like 0:13:22.040 --> 0:13:26.809 it took because Mercedes didn't. come in and get, become 0:13:26.830 --> 0:13:27.910 the champion right off the bat. 0:13:27.970 --> 0:13:29.820 Right. It took her a while because they were like, 0:13:29.840 --> 0:13:31.620 we're not just going to give a former WWE person 0:13:31.640 --> 0:13:32.480 a belt. Right. 0:13:32.600 --> 0:13:35.500 She was the TBS champ for a while. And, um, 0:13:35.740 --> 0:13:38.380 then she was, you know, 13 belts Monet and did 0:13:38.400 --> 0:13:40.040 all that stuff. So, I mean, they, they took their 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:43.580 time to get here. Um, so I kind of knew, 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:47.410 you know, you kind of had an idea, but, um, 0:13:48.070 --> 0:13:51.890 there was also some controversy with the mask spot because 0:13:51.970 --> 0:13:55.690 the ref, uh, was definitely aloof with it. 0:13:56.130 --> 0:13:56.610 Um, yeah. 0:13:57.250 --> 0:14:00.860 With the timing and everything. Like when she took the 0:14:00.900 --> 0:14:03.520 mask off, he basically just turned around and was just 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:06.400 facing the other way for no reason. And then she 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:08.840 hit Tecla and then he turned around, like the timing 0:14:08.880 --> 0:14:09.860 was off with it, you know? 0:14:10.300 --> 0:14:10.540 Right. 0:14:11.080 --> 0:14:15.460 Um, but, um, but it was a solid match, you know, 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:18.719 it definitely delivered. I think, uh, I think it hopefully 0:14:18.760 --> 0:14:20.850 sets up the first of many between them. 0:14:21.380 --> 0:14:21.880 Absolutely. 0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:26.450 I think eventually, and maybe now that this is moving forward, 0:14:26.510 --> 0:14:30.230 maybe Tony Storm's going to be coming back soon. Maybe 0:14:30.350 --> 0:14:32.850 that's the next one in line for Mercedes. Maybe Britt 0:14:32.910 --> 0:14:35.230 Baker is the next one in line for Mercedes. We 0:14:35.290 --> 0:14:38.460 won't know, but we'll find out Wednesday night at Dynamite. 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:42.560 I'm sure that something will happen. But overall, I would 0:14:42.580 --> 0:14:45.940 say the match was good. It paced itself very well. 0:14:45.980 --> 0:14:47.860 It started off hot, and then it kind of paced it, 0:14:47.940 --> 0:14:51.610 and then that goof at the end you're like, okay, whatever. 0:14:52.430 --> 0:14:55.230 But I think that this is great. 0:14:56.150 --> 0:14:57.670 Like you said, I think we're going to get more 0:14:57.690 --> 0:14:59.600 of Mercedes and Tecla and I'm all for it. 0:14:59.630 --> 0:15:02.430 So just give that to me for sure. Great match. 0:15:03.390 --> 0:15:05.890 Moving on to the next one, Nick Wayne and Jericho. 0:15:06.000 --> 0:15:08.820 I like that Jericho is giving back. 0:15:09.420 --> 0:15:10.380 I say giving back. 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:14.160 I like that he's helping out the younger talent. I 0:15:14.240 --> 0:15:16.600 love the Nick Wayne where he's like, I beat Chris Jericho. 0:15:16.660 --> 0:15:18.760 Pop, pop, pop, pop. All the pyro goes off. 0:15:19.530 --> 0:15:21.190 Like I love, I love that he was able to 0:15:21.230 --> 0:15:24.080 do that last night after he won. 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:24.980 Yeah. 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:27.180 But this is kind of one of those matches where 0:15:27.220 --> 0:15:29.340 I watch it. I was like, Hey, we're going to 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:31.740 get some laughs. We're going to, you know, you're not 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:34.120 going to get all the popping circumstances. You're just going 0:15:34.140 --> 0:15:36.400 to have a fun, you know, five, 10 minute match. 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:38.460 Just as I don't want to say it was a 0:15:38.610 --> 0:15:42.109 filler match, but it was kind of a filler match. 0:15:42.290 --> 0:15:45.390 Yeah. About as fillers you can get for AEW. 0:15:45.890 --> 0:15:47.670 Yeah. And it's one of those, hey, we're just going 0:15:47.710 --> 0:15:49.350 to put Chris Jericho on the card and we just 0:15:49.370 --> 0:15:52.150 keep going. But, you know, Nick Wayne, it'll be fun 0:15:52.190 --> 0:15:54.290 to see what's going to happen with this, how they 0:15:54.330 --> 0:15:55.050 all play out. 0:15:57.430 --> 0:16:00.910 I will say it looked great on TV. 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:04.720 And this just goes to show that Nick Wayne is potentially, 0:16:05.360 --> 0:16:07.380 even though Kyle Fletcher didn't put him in there, I 0:16:07.420 --> 0:16:09.800 could say that Nick Wayne is potentially one of the 0:16:09.900 --> 0:16:15.320 new four pillars if AEW created those new ones. I 0:16:15.340 --> 0:16:16.859 would put Nick Wayne there as being one of the 0:16:16.900 --> 0:16:17.830 young and up-and-comers. 0:16:18.390 --> 0:16:23.430 Yeah, they're starting to put the stock in him and 0:16:23.590 --> 0:16:26.430 behind him and stuff. But to be 21, I mean, 0:16:26.590 --> 0:16:33.280 it's wild. But I definitely think he needed the win 0:16:33.320 --> 0:16:35.170 more than Jericho, so that was good to see him. 0:16:35.460 --> 0:16:37.820 And I think Jericho doesn't care about wins or losses anymore. 0:16:37.840 --> 0:16:38.820 He's just there having fun. 0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:39.320 Yeah. 0:16:39.780 --> 0:16:42.180 He's not worried about probably, he's not worried about getting 0:16:42.200 --> 0:16:45.780 another championship. He's not worried about this or that. He 0:16:45.820 --> 0:16:47.500 was like, dude, I'm just, I'm just here to have fun. 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:49.520 And I think he talks about that in interviews that 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:51.710 he is there to put over the young talent, which 0:16:52.230 --> 0:16:55.010 most veterans like Chris Jericho, that's been around for a while, 0:16:55.310 --> 0:16:57.410 probably don't like doing that stuff. Right. 0:16:58.050 --> 0:17:01.210 But I mean, the Judas is still over. I mean, 0:17:01.230 --> 0:17:05.220 the crowd was chanting and everything. And, um, So, yeah, 0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:07.840 I think he's in a good spot. I mean, he's 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:14.990 still getting TV time and everything and having decent matches, 0:17:15.109 --> 0:17:19.390 you know, not the same 1996 Jericho or anything. Yeah. Yeah. 0:17:19.550 --> 0:17:22.570 You know, but for, you know, filler, it was pretty, 0:17:22.710 --> 0:17:23.170 pretty decent. 0:17:23.630 --> 0:17:26.900 I can tell you another match that I think possibly 0:17:27.020 --> 0:17:27.660 stole the night. 0:17:27.780 --> 0:17:30.109 Obviously, you know where we're heading now. Uh, the young 0:17:30.150 --> 0:17:33.379 bucks versus Kyle Fletcher and Kevin Knight. What a match 0:17:33.450 --> 0:17:34.040 that was. 0:17:34.340 --> 0:17:36.720 Uh, and again, we recently had Kyle Fletcher on and he, 0:17:37.000 --> 0:17:38.520 he said that, uh, I asked him, I was like, 0:17:39.600 --> 0:17:41.880 what version of the young bucks do you hope show 0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:43.940 up to this match at wrestle dream? And he's like, 0:17:44.460 --> 0:17:47.460 I want the PWG young bucks. I want the new 0:17:47.540 --> 0:17:50.760 Japan young bucks. I don't want this AEW young bucks. 0:17:50.940 --> 0:17:53.540 I want the young bucks that we all grew up. 0:17:53.590 --> 0:17:56.379 I want the ring of honor young bucks. Yeah. And 0:17:56.420 --> 0:17:59.920 I think we got that PWG Young Bucks at WrestleDream. 0:18:00.220 --> 0:18:01.719 Yeah, I was. 0:18:02.880 --> 0:18:07.860 I re-watched that match this morning. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, 0:18:07.940 --> 0:18:12.250 it was... So I think the assumption is that that 0:18:12.290 --> 0:18:14.570 was supposed to be Darby and Stephen Borden. 0:18:15.050 --> 0:18:15.730 Yeah. 0:18:17.010 --> 0:18:20.449 Which would have been a very cool full circle moment. 0:18:20.650 --> 0:18:26.660 But considering what we got, yeah, I was... it was crazy. 0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:30.050 You know, I'm not a huge fan of the thrown 0:18:30.070 --> 0:18:33.310 together tag teams just because it almost always ends in 0:18:33.350 --> 0:18:36.530 the hole. Can they coexist? And then they break up 0:18:36.570 --> 0:18:38.350 and then they have the best of seven feud and 0:18:38.410 --> 0:18:45.080 it's just, you know, all that crap. So, but I mean, 0:18:46.190 --> 0:18:51.380 Kyle and Kevin Knight could pretty much been thrown into 0:18:51.500 --> 0:18:55.459 any situation. I mean, they're, they're so good. Um, so 0:18:55.480 --> 0:18:58.060 if they're tagging against or with each other or they're 0:18:58.080 --> 0:19:01.369 competing against each other or it's Kyle goes back to 0:19:01.450 --> 0:19:05.210 Aussie open or Kevin Knight does a tour in Japan, 0:19:05.250 --> 0:19:09.250 like they can do pretty much anything. Oh, so I 0:19:09.930 --> 0:19:13.760 don't think it was a surprise that, um, it was 0:19:13.800 --> 0:19:14.860 as solid as it was. 0:19:14.880 --> 0:19:16.720 I think it's to the point. 0:19:16.500 --> 0:19:20.679 Now where, I mean, people are going to have to 0:19:20.740 --> 0:19:25.670 seriously consider reconsider the young bucks legacy i mean like 0:19:25.760 --> 0:19:29.480 they genuinely have an argument for a top five tag 0:19:29.500 --> 0:19:30.080 team of all. 0:19:30.000 --> 0:19:32.220 Time oh 100 and. 0:19:33.260 --> 0:19:36.359 That's not even including being one of the founders of 0:19:36.700 --> 0:19:40.780 the you know the alternative and another option for people 0:19:40.920 --> 0:19:44.420 for you know making a living in wrestling and all 0:19:44.460 --> 0:19:50.870 that stuff They just continue to... I don't know. 0:19:51.090 --> 0:19:52.190 They just keep raising the bar. 0:19:52.690 --> 0:19:58.950 I see something new with them almost every match. They're 0:19:58.970 --> 0:20:01.820 in incredible shape right now. They both have, you could 0:20:01.840 --> 0:20:04.020 really tell, they've really been hitting the gym and stuff 0:20:04.040 --> 0:20:09.419 like that. I think we're getting a very raw and 0:20:10.090 --> 0:20:11.850 dedicated version of them at the. 0:20:11.790 --> 0:20:14.430 Moment right and you know i know a lot of 0:20:14.470 --> 0:20:16.270 people want to throw out the whole age card they're 0:20:16.310 --> 0:20:20.010 in their 40s but watching wrestle dream they looked like 0:20:20.450 --> 0:20:22.050 they were the young bucks of the. 0:20:22.010 --> 0:20:24.139 20s yeah they looked like they're in their early 30s. 0:20:24.930 --> 0:20:27.300 It was insane and that one spot where they did 0:20:27.359 --> 0:20:29.760 with it was it the spanish fly where they were 0:20:29.800 --> 0:20:33.840 both in golly that was incredible yeah uh but yeah 0:20:33.960 --> 0:20:36.939 i i think that that was a fun match uh 0:20:37.119 --> 0:20:40.570 i love that the crowd chanted F Don Callis, like 0:20:41.550 --> 0:20:43.770 talk about a guy that has nuclear heat. 0:20:44.650 --> 0:20:48.109 I was, I was thinking about it, I guess Wednesday, 0:20:48.170 --> 0:20:53.630 because they had a, um, they were supposed to be a, um, 0:20:54.640 --> 0:20:57.740 a backstage sit down between the bucks and Kyle and 0:20:57.800 --> 0:21:02.399 Kevin and the bucks were running late. So Don Kyle 0:21:02.420 --> 0:21:04.419 sat down, it's like, screw this, we're getting started or whatever. 0:21:05.119 --> 0:21:08.409 And I was just thinking about like how, um, he 0:21:08.470 --> 0:21:12.160 has turned into this just monster heel. And I mean, 0:21:12.200 --> 0:21:15.619 he gets booze and chance like every time he shows 0:21:15.740 --> 0:21:19.180 up on anything. And it's just like, it's kind of 0:21:19.200 --> 0:21:22.050 a testament to like, I guess how much people love 0:21:22.090 --> 0:21:25.909 Kenny Omega. Yeah. That they're like F this guy to 0:21:25.930 --> 0:21:26.550 the end of the days. 0:21:26.630 --> 0:21:27.270 You know what I mean? 0:21:27.290 --> 0:21:33.510 Um, but, uh, yeah, man, he is just, um, you know, 0:21:33.530 --> 0:21:34.550 I don't know if he's going to go down as 0:21:34.570 --> 0:21:36.310 one of the greats, but I mean, as far as 0:21:36.369 --> 0:21:40.169 getting like a heel manager and getting heel heat, I mean, 0:21:40.210 --> 0:21:42.070 we're going on three or four years now of it 0:21:42.090 --> 0:21:44.970 just not stopping or not going down, you. 0:21:44.930 --> 0:21:46.450 Know, he's definitely a top five. 0:21:46.750 --> 0:21:50.490 Yeah. I mean, it's just, it's unbelievable. Um, the Don 0:21:50.510 --> 0:21:53.230 cows family, you know, people have different opinions about that, 0:21:53.300 --> 0:21:56.880 but I mean, like they're more times than not, they're 0:21:56.900 --> 0:22:00.540 very consistent. So, I mean, you just look at Brian cage. 0:22:00.560 --> 0:22:02.320 He had his match with to catch the other night 0:22:02.359 --> 0:22:05.050 and everyone's like, Holy crap. This was like the bronze 0:22:05.070 --> 0:22:08.930 cage of Lucha Underground days, you know, and it's yeah. 0:22:09.130 --> 0:22:10.590 So, yeah. 0:22:10.670 --> 0:22:12.470 But yeah, all in all, I think it was it 0:22:12.490 --> 0:22:14.910 was a great match. I think that could potentially be 0:22:14.950 --> 0:22:16.610 match of the night if you were to ask me. 0:22:16.630 --> 0:22:19.070 I know that there's a lot of other great matches 0:22:19.170 --> 0:22:21.750 on there. I know you had the TBS championship with 0:22:22.150 --> 0:22:25.630 Danny Luna, Persephone, Haiyan and Queen Amanata. 0:22:26.690 --> 0:22:27.580 What did you think of that one? 0:22:27.710 --> 0:22:29.800 Because I didn't get a chance to go back and 0:22:29.859 --> 0:22:32.399 watch that one because I was DJing a natural predators 0:22:32.420 --> 0:22:33.940 game on Saturday night. So I've been able to watch 0:22:33.980 --> 0:22:35.860 bits and pieces of it, but I haven't been able 0:22:35.880 --> 0:22:38.040 to watch it like fully from start to finish. 0:22:39.359 --> 0:22:43.379 Um, it was solid. I, um, I kind of thought 0:22:43.560 --> 0:22:46.520 that that one was going to be, I thought it 0:22:46.540 --> 0:22:49.480 was set up that way. So Persephone could drop the 0:22:49.520 --> 0:22:50.720 title without taking the pin. 0:22:51.080 --> 0:22:51.320 Yeah. 0:22:52.090 --> 0:23:00.700 Um, just because she has the CMLL, uh, world women's champion. Um, but, um, 0:23:01.780 --> 0:23:04.960 I don't know. There's something like, I don't know if 0:23:05.040 --> 0:23:08.119 Persephone has gotten to really show out in a W 0:23:08.240 --> 0:23:10.740 like she does in CMLL. Um, I mean, she's obviously 0:23:10.780 --> 0:23:12.800 a stud and she's going to be forever. I think 0:23:12.840 --> 0:23:13.659 she's 24 or something. 0:23:13.680 --> 0:23:13.860 Yeah. 0:23:14.240 --> 0:23:17.960 Ridiculous. Um, but I thought it was a good showing 0:23:18.020 --> 0:23:21.140 for the other three. Um, I think Danny Luna, like 0:23:21.160 --> 0:23:22.980 we talked about, I think a few weeks ago, like, 0:23:23.030 --> 0:23:26.660 I think she, think maybe the buzz kind of died 0:23:26.720 --> 0:23:28.220 off for her a little bit so when she came 0:23:28.359 --> 0:23:32.010 in it just wasn't as impactful right um and so 0:23:32.570 --> 0:23:34.889 there's a fear of getting mixed lost in the shuffle 0:23:34.930 --> 0:23:37.390 and all this kind of stuff but um i think 0:23:37.410 --> 0:23:39.570 they all looked better coming out of it but i 0:23:39.609 --> 0:23:42.150 think it's about time to put gold on queen amanada 0:23:42.340 --> 0:23:45.720 i mean she's just an unbelievable talent um. 0:23:46.109 --> 0:23:48.270 And it's been fun to watch her rise, man. 0:23:48.290 --> 0:23:51.470 Like just, just seeing the rocket. It's kind of like, 0:23:51.950 --> 0:23:56.350 you know, us watching Maya world start out. Right. I, 0:23:56.510 --> 0:24:00.670 I think queen Aminata is, is gonna be, I would, 0:24:00.869 --> 0:24:02.810 I would say that she could potentially be another one 0:24:02.830 --> 0:24:03.929 of the four pillars of AEW. 0:24:03.950 --> 0:24:05.030 If you create that new era. 0:24:05.330 --> 0:24:06.530 Yeah. Yeah. I agree. 0:24:06.970 --> 0:24:08.010 Give her the chance. 0:24:09.150 --> 0:24:15.160 Cause she started out almost kind of like sky blue. Like, 0:24:16.170 --> 0:24:18.210 she had a name and everything, but it was just like, 0:24:18.390 --> 0:24:20.390 she was just kind of, you know, and then you 0:24:20.410 --> 0:24:23.930 just kind of started seeing it rise and rise and rise. And, um, 0:24:25.170 --> 0:24:27.970 she's also very photogenic. I can see her. 0:24:29.390 --> 0:24:29.670 To me. 0:24:29.730 --> 0:24:33.369 She reminds me of, um, I can't remember her first name, 0:24:33.390 --> 0:24:37.619 but it's Brunson from Abbott elementary. They, they resemble. So 0:24:37.660 --> 0:24:39.500 I'm like, she needs to go like do a guest 0:24:39.520 --> 0:24:42.159 spot on that show. It just writes itself. She could 0:24:42.180 --> 0:24:43.240 be her cousin from. 0:24:43.320 --> 0:24:44.580 Being Hollywood or whatever. 0:24:44.619 --> 0:24:44.760 Yeah. 0:24:44.780 --> 0:24:45.060 Yeah. 0:24:45.970 --> 0:24:49.570 Um, but, uh, but yeah, good hard hitting match. Um, 0:24:49.590 --> 0:24:53.630 they have a little sub story going on with high on, um, um, 0:24:53.990 --> 0:24:56.670 Athena's kind of trying to recruit her to the MTI 0:24:57.070 --> 0:25:01.129 stuff and my world's like, no pump the brakes. Yeah. 0:25:01.590 --> 0:25:03.130 So kind of had a little bit of that going 0:25:03.190 --> 0:25:04.909 on underneath it, but, uh, yeah, pretty solid. 0:25:05.390 --> 0:25:07.730 I will say, uh, the one thing that I have 0:25:07.810 --> 0:25:12.410 enjoyed watching this week is the vignettes because of, uh, we'll, 0:25:12.430 --> 0:25:15.650 we'll talk about the debut of Ilya Dragunov. I like 0:25:15.670 --> 0:25:18.570 that AEW's been doing these vignettes because everybody knew that 0:25:18.609 --> 0:25:21.469 he was going to AEW, right? Yeah. I like that 0:25:21.490 --> 0:25:23.230 they did the vignettes and then he came out and 0:25:23.270 --> 0:25:25.470 did that instead of him like doing a run-in on 0:25:25.530 --> 0:25:26.750 something or somebody's. 0:25:26.590 --> 0:25:28.970 Like, oh, I've got a match and nobody wants to 0:25:28.990 --> 0:25:30.310 wrestle me. Who's it going to be? 0:25:30.490 --> 0:25:31.650 Yeah. 0:25:32.490 --> 0:25:36.470 I like that better of what they did because they 0:25:36.690 --> 0:25:39.190 showed the vignette and it wasn't like the ones back 0:25:39.260 --> 0:25:40.840 in the day in WWE when you would watch them 0:25:40.859 --> 0:25:42.129 and you're like, oh, who's this going to be? 0:25:42.740 --> 0:25:45.030 And then eventually you get there and you're like, oh, okay, 0:25:45.070 --> 0:25:45.670 I got it now. 0:25:45.990 --> 0:25:46.210 Yeah. 0:25:46.470 --> 0:25:49.850 This one, they've literally just stuck to who Ilya is 0:25:50.570 --> 0:25:53.270 with the symphony and showing him and everything else. So 0:25:53.430 --> 0:25:57.690 it gave you the excitement knowing, okay, he's with AEW now. Yeah. 0:25:57.910 --> 0:26:00.100 Not a wait and guess and see who's this going 0:26:00.119 --> 0:26:03.000 to be. And then you watch it and you're like, oh, 0:26:03.040 --> 0:26:04.800 that's what weeks of leading up to this. 0:26:05.180 --> 0:26:05.740 It's like when. 0:26:07.150 --> 0:26:09.229 when they did those vignettes back in the day when 0:26:09.250 --> 0:26:11.350 they were trying, it was a Kevin Thorne. That was 0:26:11.390 --> 0:26:15.280 like the white undertaker that he was like the all 0:26:15.380 --> 0:26:19.520 white Jesus, whatever back in WWE back. 0:26:19.359 --> 0:26:22.140 In the day. Was it Malakai? Yeah. 0:26:22.200 --> 0:26:24.340 Malakai. When they were doing all those vignettes and then 0:26:24.359 --> 0:26:26.560 you're like, Oh, okay. 0:26:26.780 --> 0:26:29.570 And the guy, the, uh, was it sheer or seer? 0:26:29.590 --> 0:26:35.030 Uh, veer veer. I mean, for. 0:26:34.970 --> 0:26:38.409 Like months and months and months, it felt like, um, and. 0:26:38.369 --> 0:26:39.930 Then you get there and it's like, Oh, okay. 0:26:39.970 --> 0:26:44.050 Yeah. I, I, I saw it posted up on YouTube 0:26:44.090 --> 0:26:47.810 or something, but someone had reposted his debut. And I mean, 0:26:47.830 --> 0:26:49.800 he looked like a monster, but he came out to 0:26:49.820 --> 0:26:51.600 just crickets. So it was just kind of like, I 0:26:51.630 --> 0:26:53.940 think people were over it, but anyways, as far as 0:26:53.980 --> 0:26:57.140 dragging off goes, it's cool. He's keeping that name. Um, 0:26:57.320 --> 0:26:59.520 I thought it may be tied to WWE somehow. Um, 0:27:00.369 --> 0:27:01.810 um they talked about. 0:27:01.530 --> 0:27:03.190 To ask him if if we ever get a chance 0:27:03.210 --> 0:27:06.190 to talk to him how he's able to bring that 0:27:06.230 --> 0:27:08.250 name over because i know some people own their names 0:27:08.609 --> 0:27:13.070 yeah and i i assume that ilia was a wwe 0:27:13.109 --> 0:27:17.490 name because of nxt uk and nxt and wwe i 0:27:17.540 --> 0:27:18.290 figured they owned. 0:27:18.170 --> 0:27:22.600 It yeah he must have copywritten it somehow before i 0:27:22.820 --> 0:27:25.859 don't know anyways um i will say our friend zena 0:27:26.040 --> 0:27:28.949 of the podcast our russian friend she was at the 0:27:28.990 --> 0:27:31.510 scrum and she got to talk to him in russian 0:27:31.790 --> 0:27:34.090 uh they had talked back and forth in russian so 0:27:34.109 --> 0:27:37.350 it's kind of cool um but yeah they they mentioned 0:27:37.369 --> 0:27:40.129 that on the scrum so they had filmed the vignettes 0:27:40.820 --> 0:27:45.720 and um tony wasn't exactly sure when everything was gonna 0:27:46.340 --> 0:27:49.050 be able to be aired yeah the wise And he 0:27:49.170 --> 0:27:53.590 said that Ilya text him at 2 a.m. his time, 0:27:54.130 --> 0:27:57.950 which was right in the middle of Dynamite on Wednesday, saying, hey, 0:27:58.530 --> 0:28:01.379 my visa is good to go. And during the show, 0:28:02.430 --> 0:28:04.740 Tony's like, cool, run it, run this vignette, do it. 0:28:06.260 --> 0:28:08.520 And so it just kind of fell apart, you know, 0:28:08.560 --> 0:28:11.300 fell together very quickly. And then he did announce that 0:28:11.660 --> 0:28:14.020 this Wednesday he's going to have his debut match. 0:28:14.300 --> 0:28:14.440 So. 0:28:14.940 --> 0:28:16.510 And I don't think they've announced who it's going to 0:28:16.550 --> 0:28:17.510 be against, right? 0:28:18.150 --> 0:28:21.250 I would assume there's got to be either. Obviously, you 0:28:21.270 --> 0:28:22.669 don't want to put him up against a jobber, but 0:28:22.710 --> 0:28:24.330 you want to put him up with somebody. I would 0:28:24.369 --> 0:28:26.070 say it's like a Rocky Romero. 0:28:26.210 --> 0:28:31.310 I was thinking like Aaron Solo or Trent. Yeah. Well, 0:28:31.930 --> 0:28:34.489 and when he was asked about it, he said, you know, 0:28:34.510 --> 0:28:36.430 as far as competition goes, you know, he's like, it 0:28:36.450 --> 0:28:38.820 starts with Mox. It goes to Samoa Joe, goes to 0:28:38.860 --> 0:28:43.640 Cloud Calf Lecture. He said... it's, it's basically like a 0:28:43.680 --> 0:28:45.760 question of who is, who do I not want to wrestle? 0:28:46.040 --> 0:28:47.980 He's like, I want to wrestle everyone on the, on 0:28:48.000 --> 0:28:48.520 the roster. 0:28:48.580 --> 0:28:50.700 So, and I think he said in the thing, he 0:28:50.720 --> 0:28:53.850 was like, you know, I'm excited to wrestle and, you know, 0:28:54.030 --> 0:28:56.230 not be just sitting there watching wrestling. 0:28:56.350 --> 0:28:57.210 I get to wrestle. 0:28:57.230 --> 0:29:00.530 So I, I mean, I, I'm not fully quoting exactly 0:29:00.550 --> 0:29:03.310 what he said, but it's around that area, but it's, 0:29:03.610 --> 0:29:05.530 it's going to be fun to watch him. I know 0:29:05.730 --> 0:29:07.890 when you and I've had this conversation, our group chat, 0:29:07.910 --> 0:29:08.990 Josh was like, ah, whatever. 0:29:09.050 --> 0:29:10.390 I don't care. He wasn't that good in WWE. 0:29:10.430 --> 0:29:13.110 Yeah. I was like, but bro, you got to go 0:29:13.140 --> 0:29:17.209 back and watch his old stuff. When him and Gunther 0:29:17.250 --> 0:29:19.070 were going at it in NXT UK. 0:29:20.330 --> 0:29:23.310 Golly, just the chops back and forth. 0:29:23.750 --> 0:29:26.310 That and then his NXT run. I mean, he was 0:29:27.310 --> 0:29:29.170 top five on the whole roster, probably. 0:29:29.610 --> 0:29:31.510 Now, I will say the neck tattoo is a little goofy, 0:29:31.550 --> 0:29:33.770 but that's neither here nor there. 0:29:33.790 --> 0:29:37.190 You know, it almost looks like an action figure when 0:29:37.210 --> 0:29:39.290 they try to print it, and it's not quite right. 0:29:39.310 --> 0:29:39.610 Yes. 0:29:39.630 --> 0:29:39.950 A little. 0:29:40.140 --> 0:29:42.560 You're doing a creative character yeah you know. 0:29:42.440 --> 0:29:45.320 It's a little a little off but uh but man 0:29:45.340 --> 0:29:48.120 they got another demon bro i mean they they picked 0:29:48.200 --> 0:29:52.010 up champa um they got hit they have dragon off 0:29:52.070 --> 0:29:55.690 now i mean like they're they're picking up some monsters. 0:29:56.070 --> 0:29:56.770 Oh, absolutely. 0:29:56.830 --> 0:30:00.310 And Tony's being very smart about, you know, picking people up. 0:30:00.330 --> 0:30:02.890 He's not just signing people just to sign them because 0:30:02.910 --> 0:30:04.870 they were a name he's signing to see how they're 0:30:04.890 --> 0:30:08.530 going to benefit the company. And you missing, uh, Champa, uh, 0:30:09.030 --> 0:30:12.130 him and LD Andrade. That was a fun match. 0:30:12.170 --> 0:30:14.520 Yeah, it was. So that was one of those, you know, 0:30:14.560 --> 0:30:20.620 the entertainment value, um, uh, Champa pulled his tights down and, um, 0:30:23.150 --> 0:30:24.530 And his tights said, I just know. 0:30:24.550 --> 0:30:24.630 Yeah. 0:30:25.730 --> 0:30:29.090 And then Andrade finally took his pants off and his said, 0:30:29.130 --> 0:30:33.330 how you know? And then Ciampa was like fighting the 0:30:33.350 --> 0:30:36.190 pants and he like pinned them and hooked the leg 0:30:36.230 --> 0:30:38.469 and everything. And then the pants kicked out at two. 0:30:38.570 --> 0:30:41.330 Like it was just goofy, but like his daughter was 0:30:41.390 --> 0:30:44.250 back ringside again and he had a little moment with 0:30:44.290 --> 0:30:48.430 him and his wife. And I mean, it was, you know, 0:30:48.930 --> 0:30:51.080 these guys could wrestle in their sleep probably. 0:30:51.100 --> 0:30:52.130 Oh, a hundred percent. 0:30:52.750 --> 0:30:55.350 But just watching that match and then also watching his 0:30:55.390 --> 0:30:58.590 chat with Renee earlier this week. I mean, he, I 0:30:58.630 --> 0:31:01.130 wouldn't be surprised if Andrade is a champ within the 0:31:01.170 --> 0:31:01.580 next year. 0:31:01.600 --> 0:31:02.880 Oh, a hundred percent. 0:31:02.940 --> 0:31:05.060 And I think, and I think maybe me and you 0:31:05.100 --> 0:31:09.280 talked about this recently. I think Andrade, his first AEW 0:31:09.340 --> 0:31:11.480 run was just kind of, eh, he just went there 0:31:11.500 --> 0:31:14.840 because WWE, he didn't want to be there anymore. Then 0:31:14.880 --> 0:31:18.810 went back to WWE and realized, Maybe I should have 0:31:18.830 --> 0:31:20.820 stayed at AEW. And now that he's back, like you 0:31:20.840 --> 0:31:24.200 could tell that he's having fun, the how you know thing. 0:31:24.240 --> 0:31:26.980 And then the selfies on the side and he's getting 0:31:27.020 --> 0:31:29.820 to wrestle for CMLL and he can wrestle in Japan 0:31:29.840 --> 0:31:30.800 and all these other places. 0:31:31.260 --> 0:31:31.460 Yeah. 0:31:31.570 --> 0:31:34.110 Like, I think, I think, like. 0:31:33.990 --> 0:31:37.570 You said, he could be AEW world heavyweight champion within 0:31:37.610 --> 0:31:40.890 a year. He's got that contract. Is he going to 0:31:40.910 --> 0:31:43.780 beat Ospreay for it? That's the tough thing. I think 0:31:43.820 --> 0:31:45.420 him and Ospreay would have such a banger. 0:31:45.440 --> 0:31:45.780 Yeah. 0:31:46.640 --> 0:31:50.120 But again, Ospreay, I just don't know who the person 0:31:50.180 --> 0:31:51.770 is that's going to be able to take that title 0:31:51.830 --> 0:31:54.270 off of Ospreay. That's going to be the tough thing. 0:31:54.350 --> 0:31:56.130 I mean, the only person I could have thought of 0:31:56.170 --> 0:32:02.070 was Moxley, but I don't know if Andrade is going 0:32:02.090 --> 0:32:05.870 to do it. I could see MJF doing it because 0:32:05.890 --> 0:32:07.770 it's just MJF, and then. 0:32:09.610 --> 0:32:14.930 You get another match of Andrade and MJF. But I 0:32:14.950 --> 0:32:15.450 don't know, man. 0:32:15.630 --> 0:32:18.030 Andrade being an AEW World Heavyweight Champion would be fun 0:32:18.050 --> 0:32:18.410 to watch. 0:32:18.890 --> 0:32:21.750 Yeah, and I think the big thing is I really 0:32:21.810 --> 0:32:26.040 think he's being presented the right way. When he got 0:32:26.060 --> 0:32:29.140 caught up to the main roster the first time in 0:32:29.320 --> 0:32:31.540 WWE and then when he went back the second time, 0:32:32.980 --> 0:32:39.930 he was just like another person. I think there's a 0:32:39.990 --> 0:32:41.970 lot more you could present. And they're doing it now 0:32:42.010 --> 0:32:45.540 with the suits and I mean, he's extremely over with 0:32:45.560 --> 0:32:49.110 the crowd now. Um, and so I think you need 0:32:49.660 --> 0:32:52.350 bad blood or animosity for all that, which again, he 0:32:52.390 --> 0:32:54.190 was married to Charlotte. Like he wanted to go work 0:32:54.230 --> 0:32:54.470 with her. 0:32:54.510 --> 0:32:56.270 Like, what do you, and you can't, you're not going 0:32:56.290 --> 0:32:58.030 to fault nobody for going to back, be on the 0:32:58.070 --> 0:32:58.730 road with their wife. 0:32:58.970 --> 0:33:01.750 You know, William Regan wanted to go back to NXT 0:33:01.770 --> 0:33:03.950 to work with his son. Like, I mean, it happens. 0:33:03.990 --> 0:33:04.350 Exactly. 0:33:04.950 --> 0:33:08.350 So luckily he didn't burn bridges and Tony still saw 0:33:08.390 --> 0:33:11.280 money in him. And it's been awesome to see so far. 0:33:11.320 --> 0:33:13.900 And now he's in United Empire with Will. So that 0:33:13.940 --> 0:33:18.570 adds another layer to it. So, yeah, very, very solid 0:33:18.610 --> 0:33:19.730 and entertaining match. 0:33:19.670 --> 0:33:21.410 With those two. Absolutely, for sure. 0:33:22.150 --> 0:33:24.990 Moving on to the next one, you had the the 0:33:25.110 --> 0:33:31.209 trios title match Swerve and New Level versus Hangman and Brodito. Ultimately, 0:33:31.270 --> 0:33:34.810 Hangman and Brodito ended up getting the match, getting the win, 0:33:35.250 --> 0:33:37.710 which we kind of knew this was coming. 0:33:37.990 --> 0:33:38.270 Right. 0:33:38.630 --> 0:33:42.810 We knew that Swerve and New Level weren't going to 0:33:42.850 --> 0:33:44.990 hold the titles very long. Right. 0:33:45.050 --> 0:33:46.410 It was just trying to figure out who is going 0:33:46.430 --> 0:33:46.830 to go to. 0:33:48.030 --> 0:33:50.410 I do think the ending of the match was interesting 0:33:50.630 --> 0:33:53.590 because it feels like it's setting up yet another swerve 0:33:53.650 --> 0:33:56.090 and hangman storyline. 0:33:56.130 --> 0:33:58.490 Which I could watch. 0:33:58.520 --> 0:34:01.360 I know we complain about WWE running the same storylines 0:34:01.440 --> 0:34:04.440 over and over and over and over again, but I 0:34:04.540 --> 0:34:07.640 think with a swerve and hangman is just such a 0:34:07.700 --> 0:34:08.500 good storyline. 0:34:08.660 --> 0:34:09.880 I don't mind getting it again. 0:34:10.340 --> 0:34:16.180 Yeah. It's they, they mentioned that on the scrum and, 0:34:17.250 --> 0:34:24.180 they asked about, they asked Hangman about his rivalry and, um, like, 0:34:25.440 --> 0:34:27.400 you know, why is it so intense and not, you know, 0:34:28.020 --> 0:34:33.040 all that. And Brody King was said, um, you know, 0:34:33.060 --> 0:34:37.110 if someone breaks into your house where your family and 0:34:37.150 --> 0:34:42.250 children live, you have every right to burn their house down. So, um, 0:34:43.330 --> 0:34:47.620 so yeah, I mean, it's, um, I can't remember who 0:34:47.719 --> 0:34:54.530 people were comparing it to. Almost maybe Hogan, Macho Man 0:34:54.670 --> 0:34:55.190 or something. 0:34:55.570 --> 0:34:56.410 Yeah. 0:34:56.590 --> 0:35:00.530 Just a top feud in the company. Maybe Dusty versus 0:35:00.570 --> 0:35:01.490 Ric Flair or something. 0:35:03.280 --> 0:35:04.239 Flair and Steamboat. 0:35:04.620 --> 0:35:08.500 Yeah. I mean, they have such interesting chemistry. And now 0:35:08.540 --> 0:35:11.700 with all the personal stuff they've incorporated, it's just. 0:35:12.800 --> 0:35:13.800 It's fun to watch. 0:35:14.210 --> 0:35:16.470 Yeah, and it works both ways. I mean, it works 0:35:17.250 --> 0:35:20.450 as swerve his heel and hangman his baby face or 0:35:20.750 --> 0:35:23.180 hangman his heel and swerve baby face. I mean, either way, 0:35:23.200 --> 0:35:24.140 it works. 0:35:24.420 --> 0:35:30.060 Yeah, and they have hellacious matches for sure. 0:35:30.180 --> 0:35:34.910 That Texas death match with the ball bar on hangman 0:35:34.930 --> 0:35:36.690 just getting pulled out of his head. 0:35:36.710 --> 0:35:38.110 Think about the syringe spot. 0:35:38.550 --> 0:35:39.049 Oh, yeah. 0:35:40.190 --> 0:35:42.230 So, I mean, it's going to be fun to see 0:35:42.290 --> 0:35:45.650 what they're going to do with this with Swerve and Hangman, obviously. 0:35:45.670 --> 0:35:49.470 I think this was a way to break the trios 0:35:49.570 --> 0:35:51.830 up so then New Level can go into that tag 0:35:51.850 --> 0:35:54.750 division and try to go after the tag team titles 0:35:54.790 --> 0:36:00.050 because every time we've had Kofi and Austin on the show, 0:36:00.750 --> 0:36:03.489 we've always talked about dream matches and every time it's 0:36:03.530 --> 0:36:06.110 always been the Young Bucks. So I feel as if 0:36:06.520 --> 0:36:08.460 you know, this is the way they set up the 0:36:08.500 --> 0:36:12.420 young bucks and, and new level. I think new level 0:36:12.460 --> 0:36:16.220 has to like, be like a number one contender before anything. 0:36:16.300 --> 0:36:18.360 I don't think that they automatically should just get a 0:36:18.400 --> 0:36:20.810 straight shot. So maybe this goes into play of what 0:36:20.830 --> 0:36:24.370 you talked about earlier. Maybe there's like a tournament over 0:36:24.410 --> 0:36:28.250 the next couple of weeks. And then, you know, next 0:36:28.310 --> 0:36:34.339 pay-per-view or whatever you get young bucks and, and, new level. So, 0:36:34.360 --> 0:36:36.580 I mean, I, I would pay for that for sure. 0:36:37.739 --> 0:36:41.819 Coming up court towards the end of the card. What 0:36:41.860 --> 0:36:43.960 were your thoughts on the, the Moxley and. 0:36:43.920 --> 0:36:44.920 Mark Davis match? 0:36:47.680 --> 0:36:49.239 Do you think it should have been in the spot 0:36:49.280 --> 0:36:50.970 where it was next to the main event? 0:36:54.630 --> 0:36:56.810 So based on what I was seeing online, a lot 0:36:56.850 --> 0:36:58.669 of people rated that as the match of the night. 0:36:59.770 --> 0:37:01.730 I even saw a couple of people say they thought 0:37:01.770 --> 0:37:03.210 it was the match of the year, which I thought 0:37:03.690 --> 0:37:08.310 might be a little bit of a stretch, but I 0:37:08.350 --> 0:37:08.710 don't know. 0:37:08.730 --> 0:37:13.640 It was kind of a just due to it being. 0:37:15.040 --> 0:37:18.180 So close to Pac passing or Pac passing. 0:37:20.020 --> 0:37:21.799 Which I like the way that they keep doing these 0:37:21.860 --> 0:37:23.399 tributes to him. They're fantastic. 0:37:23.620 --> 0:37:27.920 Yeah, very, very cool. But it got to a point 0:37:28.080 --> 0:37:33.860 where he was Moxley was just And, you know, it 0:37:33.900 --> 0:37:35.660 looked like Mark Davis was going to take it. And 0:37:35.700 --> 0:37:42.820 he finally, excuse me, he finally, Marina Shafir kind of 0:37:43.080 --> 0:37:44.339 gave him a pep talk. 0:37:44.570 --> 0:37:45.330 During the match. 0:37:45.450 --> 0:37:51.509 And then her and Daniel Garcia finally helped him. And that's, 0:37:51.870 --> 0:37:58.029 it's kind of that whole, like, you know, you got 0:37:58.050 --> 0:38:02.640 to lower your defenses and ask for help sometimes and blah, blah, blah. Um, 0:38:03.320 --> 0:38:06.719 so it was a very physical match for sure. Um, 0:38:08.800 --> 0:38:11.110 but yeah, I think probably I. 0:38:11.239 --> 0:38:12.510 Would have stuck it somewhere else. 0:38:13.230 --> 0:38:19.790 Um, but I think, I think there was, I don't know. 0:38:20.170 --> 0:38:22.049 I think it made sense to a degree, but I 0:38:22.090 --> 0:38:23.730 think personally, I probably would have put it on a 0:38:23.770 --> 0:38:25.509 different spot on the card. Yeah. 0:38:25.570 --> 0:38:28.370 Maybe, maybe kind of like the fur, like within the 0:38:28.410 --> 0:38:31.190 first three, maybe first four. 0:38:31.610 --> 0:38:31.850 Yeah. 0:38:32.650 --> 0:38:33.370 I will say this. 0:38:33.450 --> 0:38:36.790 It is getting a little confusing because I don't really 0:38:36.830 --> 0:38:40.180 know if the Death Riders are heels or faces because 0:38:40.340 --> 0:38:42.580 Mox definitely seems like a baby face. 0:38:42.760 --> 0:38:44.060 It's like Stone Cold, man. 0:38:44.560 --> 0:38:44.880 Well. 0:38:45.320 --> 0:38:45.719 In a way. 0:38:46.780 --> 0:38:48.480 That's... I can see that. 0:38:48.640 --> 0:38:51.440 But earlier in the card or on the opening show, 0:38:51.480 --> 0:38:55.980 I mean, they went against the conglomeration and the Bang 0:38:56.000 --> 0:38:58.300 Bang Bang. Those are definitely the faces. 0:38:58.900 --> 0:38:59.040 Mm-hmm. 0:38:59.530 --> 0:39:04.250 So, and they teamed with the dogs who are definitely heels. 0:39:04.670 --> 0:39:05.010 Yeah. 0:39:05.950 --> 0:39:08.900 So it's, I don't know. 0:39:08.920 --> 0:39:10.860 It's kind of tough. I think that there, I think, 0:39:12.160 --> 0:39:16.540 I think with, with, with packs passing. Right. I think 0:39:16.560 --> 0:39:20.200 a lot of people are more gravitating towards them. Yeah. 0:39:20.200 --> 0:39:22.980 So they're getting behind them. It's like the NWO. 0:39:22.980 --> 0:39:25.830 We knew they were heels, but we all still cheered 0:39:25.830 --> 0:39:28.510 them on and we still wore the the nwo shirts 0:39:28.530 --> 0:39:31.710 and we're still doing the two suites like yeah they 0:39:31.730 --> 0:39:33.859 could be heels they could portray them but we're still 0:39:33.880 --> 0:39:34.930 gonna cheer them on. 0:39:35.050 --> 0:39:38.640 Yeah and i think it i think the assumption was 0:39:38.700 --> 0:39:41.080 at some point that they were gonna the death riders 0:39:41.100 --> 0:39:45.520 were gonna turn on moxley um and there was definitely 0:39:45.560 --> 0:39:49.820 hints being thrown out pretty regularly but now that packs 0:39:49.920 --> 0:39:53.330 passed I don't know if people would buy it you 0:39:53.370 --> 0:39:56.430 know or if they you know if they did turn 0:39:56.550 --> 0:39:59.189 them on him that would make them a monster heel 0:39:59.230 --> 0:40:04.230 group pretty quickly so that's you know that's not a 0:40:04.270 --> 0:40:05.630 huge thing that's like you said it's kind of like 0:40:05.650 --> 0:40:08.940 the stone cold thing but it is a little I 0:40:08.980 --> 0:40:11.040 think if someone just started watching this I think that 0:40:11.060 --> 0:40:12.700 would kind of throw him off a little bit but 0:40:12.719 --> 0:40:16.580 like you know but you know Mark Davis has really 0:40:16.620 --> 0:40:20.510 kind of come under his own after Um, I'll see 0:40:20.550 --> 0:40:24.219 open split up and there's still potential for that to 0:40:24.760 --> 0:40:26.320 pop up again at some point since they're in the 0:40:26.360 --> 0:40:30.279 down Kyle's family. But, um, after he came back from injury, um, 0:40:30.340 --> 0:40:34.839 he's really been showing his stuff on the singles side 0:40:34.880 --> 0:40:37.799 of things. So, uh, him and him and Mox had 0:40:37.960 --> 0:40:40.080 just crazy chemistry for sure. Yeah. 0:40:41.450 --> 0:40:46.770 It'll definitely be fun to see more of what Mark 0:40:46.790 --> 0:40:48.950 Davis can do. I know we've had him on the 0:40:48.969 --> 0:40:52.780 show quite a few times, and he's been great. Moving 0:40:52.900 --> 0:40:55.940 on to the main event. I know there was a 0:40:56.040 --> 0:40:58.180 lot of things in this one where I was kind 0:40:58.219 --> 0:41:00.960 of like, how's this going to work? What is this like? 0:41:01.760 --> 0:41:08.410 The clockwork carnage. But overall, it seemed like a great match. Yeah. 0:41:09.580 --> 0:41:12.279 So that's a match that I guess, um, Osprey had 0:41:12.320 --> 0:41:17.799 done in the past. Um, and, um, I definitely like 0:41:17.860 --> 0:41:23.850 it from when I, um, when I was fantasy booking 0:41:23.930 --> 0:41:28.430 or thinking about starting a wrestling fed, you know, you 0:41:28.450 --> 0:41:31.049 and I talked about it. One of my, uh, one 0:41:31.070 --> 0:41:35.410 of my, one of the philosophies behind it was endurance 0:41:35.430 --> 0:41:38.839 to win. And that's exactly what this was. I mean, 0:41:38.900 --> 0:41:42.279 it was just a fully, and ironically Ospreay drew the 0:41:42.320 --> 0:41:45.739 first card. He was the first one in. So he 0:41:45.760 --> 0:41:49.200 had to wrestle the entire match. Um, I saw a 0:41:49.200 --> 0:41:54.790 lot of WWE fed brains that were like, uh, this 0:41:54.910 --> 0:42:00.390 much is so stupid because, you know, Moxley and, um, 0:42:00.810 --> 0:42:02.870 Ospreay and a mat, you know, he'll, he'll get hit 0:42:02.910 --> 0:42:05.730 with like seven finishers and he'll kick out whatever. But 0:42:05.750 --> 0:42:08.350 then Darby hit him with one coffin drop, and he pinned. 0:42:08.890 --> 0:42:09.610 He got pinned. 0:42:10.510 --> 0:42:11.390 And it's just like. 0:42:13.130 --> 0:42:17.390 There's different circumstances. You know, there's different. 0:42:17.410 --> 0:42:17.629 Right. 0:42:18.310 --> 0:42:21.719 This match, the name of the game was getting as 0:42:21.760 --> 0:42:25.739 many falls as you could in that 15 minutes. And 0:42:25.780 --> 0:42:28.020 it did set up a kind of cool thing. It 0:42:28.040 --> 0:42:30.920 looked like Copeland was very close to winning. 0:42:30.940 --> 0:42:31.440 Mm-hmm. 0:42:31.980 --> 0:42:33.700 Osprey hit him with the hidden blade and he took 0:42:33.739 --> 0:42:37.290 the win. He took the final pin with two seconds 0:42:37.350 --> 0:42:39.230 left in the match. So like no one else could 0:42:39.310 --> 0:42:44.799 get a pinfall. But yeah, it was I think it 0:42:44.840 --> 0:42:48.219 was chaotic in in a good way. A lot of 0:42:48.260 --> 0:42:51.600 matches that are chaotic or chaotic and not a good way. Yeah. 0:42:51.900 --> 0:42:54.739 But this one. Yeah, I enjoyed it. 0:42:55.190 --> 0:42:58.339 And I did, I did enjoy the, uh, the Samoa Joe, uh, 0:42:58.430 --> 0:43:02.739 spot where Ricochet did a dive to the outside and 0:43:02.760 --> 0:43:05.060 Joe's like, Nope. Uh, so that, that was a lot 0:43:05.100 --> 0:43:09.980 of fun. Uh, but overall, what would you give wrestle 0:43:10.020 --> 0:43:12.820 dream as a grade wise, like overall? 0:43:13.550 --> 0:43:16.170 Um, I'd say probably a B, uh, B plus. 0:43:16.610 --> 0:43:21.750 Um, I think, um, their pay-per-views are probably the best 0:43:21.850 --> 0:43:28.350 value in wrestling. Um, uh i mean i i would 0:43:28.390 --> 0:43:32.290 have to sit down and look and really digest cards 0:43:32.350 --> 0:43:34.319 to really find one that i was like oh this 0:43:34.340 --> 0:43:37.480 was awful yeah i i can't remember an awful one 0:43:37.500 --> 0:43:39.480 off the top of my head um. 0:43:40.260 --> 0:43:41.400 I think this one. 0:43:43.020 --> 0:43:46.560 Probably as good as all out maybe maybe a little 0:43:46.580 --> 0:43:48.160 bit less maybe all that was a little bit better 0:43:48.180 --> 0:43:51.040 but I think we're still kind of coming off of 0:43:51.060 --> 0:43:54.419 the all in Wembley high and just how incredible that, 0:43:54.680 --> 0:43:59.080 that whole evening was. And, um, obviously there's been tons 0:43:59.160 --> 0:44:02.120 of tribute shows that have happened since then. It's kind 0:44:02.160 --> 0:44:05.300 of not really taking the wind out of the sails, 0:44:05.380 --> 0:44:07.719 but just you've had to shuffle and you've had to 0:44:07.760 --> 0:44:10.680 move things around and it's obviously had an impact on 0:44:10.700 --> 0:44:11.900 the crew. I'm sure. 0:44:11.920 --> 0:44:12.320 Yeah. 0:44:12.739 --> 0:44:14.940 Um, but with all that being said, I mean, they, they, 0:44:16.620 --> 0:44:18.819 if they just put on cruise control, they'd probably get 0:44:18.860 --> 0:44:20.700 a B on a pay-per-view. You know what I mean? 0:44:20.840 --> 0:44:21.540 Oh, a hundred percent. 0:44:21.800 --> 0:44:23.819 They could just do color by numbers and it'd still 0:44:23.860 --> 0:44:24.879 be solid. So. 0:44:25.600 --> 0:44:29.030 Yeah. And I'm, I'm curious to see if the, the, 0:44:29.090 --> 0:44:32.630 you know, the, the clockwork carnage format will stick. 0:44:32.790 --> 0:44:34.870 Will they continue to do this down the road? 0:44:34.890 --> 0:44:38.750 Uh, I have a feeling it will, because I mean, 0:44:39.010 --> 0:44:40.250 obviously a lot of people liked it. 0:44:40.290 --> 0:44:42.870 It's kind of like, uh, what is it? Stadium stampede. 0:44:43.090 --> 0:44:43.270 Yep. 0:44:44.270 --> 0:44:48.469 Um, and then I, Stadium Stampede's been fun. And so 0:44:48.590 --> 0:44:51.750 I think that they'll keep this format. Maybe they do 0:44:51.770 --> 0:44:53.650 it in the women's division. I'd be okay with that 0:44:54.469 --> 0:44:56.250 to see how that would play out. That would be 0:44:56.270 --> 0:44:57.710 a lot of fun. And then that way it gives 0:44:57.730 --> 0:45:00.650 you a chance that, you know, Mercedes doesn't have to 0:45:00.690 --> 0:45:01.170 get pinned. 0:45:01.390 --> 0:45:03.660 Britt Baker can win. Thunder Rose can win. 0:45:03.700 --> 0:45:05.009 There's a lot of things that you could do in 0:45:05.050 --> 0:45:08.320 that that you don't have to worry about having your 0:45:08.580 --> 0:45:12.899 champion take the pin and losing it and then looking weak. 0:45:13.610 --> 0:45:17.290 Yeah, and they mentioned that on the media scrum about 0:45:17.310 --> 0:45:19.069 it could definitely be a possibility. 0:45:19.930 --> 0:45:21.070 So it'll be interesting. 0:45:21.170 --> 0:45:26.450 But that concludes today's episode of us kind of recapping WrestleDream. 0:45:26.510 --> 0:45:28.990 I will tell you, if you made it this far 0:45:29.030 --> 0:45:32.000 into the show, later this week we're going to be 0:45:32.400 --> 0:45:35.439 catching up with Kit Wilson. We're going to talk about 0:45:35.660 --> 0:45:40.260 WWE main event now being on Wednesday nights on Rumble. 0:45:41.330 --> 0:45:43.920 So we'll talk to Kit Wilson about that. And you 0:45:43.940 --> 0:45:46.089 know what? Just enjoy wrestling. Have fun. Like what you 0:45:46.130 --> 0:45:48.660 like and enjoy it. That's all we got to say.