WEBVTT - Tye Brady Talks Robotics

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<v Speaker 1>Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. Bloomberg's Thomas Black He

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<v Speaker 1>recently wrote in an opinion piece and he talked about

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<v Speaker 1>the hype around humanoid robots being pretty i with forecasts

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<v Speaker 1>of nearly one billion humanoids in service by twenty fifty,

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<v Speaker 1>but the reality is that most people overestimate what robots

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<v Speaker 1>can do at this point in their development. Got to say, though,

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<v Speaker 1>one company that's been using robots a lot and for

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<v Speaker 1>a long time and has deployed its one millionth robot

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<v Speaker 1>happens to be one of the world's largest marketcat companies

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<v Speaker 1>out there. It's also a household name. So we wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to check in once again with Ty Brady. He is

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<v Speaker 1>chief technologist at Amazon Robotics. He joins us from Amazon's

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<v Speaker 1>Delivering the Future twenty twenty five event from Amazon's dur three.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a delivery station in Millipedes, California, and so we

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<v Speaker 1>kind of want to find out where they are in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of the world of robotics. Ty, I gotta tell you, Tim,

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<v Speaker 1>and I love talking to you last time, so so

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<v Speaker 1>glad to check in with you again. First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>this event, where you are I mean right now, I

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<v Speaker 1>just see a curtain, but I'm assuming there's lots of

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<v Speaker 1>stuff happening at the event. Who's there, what's going on?

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<v Speaker 1>Tell us a little bit about it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yep. Well, first of all, thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 2>having me, and I really appreciate it, and I enjoyed

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<v Speaker 2>our conversation as well. It's just really great to be here.

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<v Speaker 2>We are fourth delivering the Future event here and there's

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of press that we have here, and we

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<v Speaker 2>made a couple of big announcements in robotics set today.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you tell us about them if you have.

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<v Speaker 2>But the first is in our manipulation. About that we

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<v Speaker 2>call blue Jay, and what blue Jay? The way that

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<v Speaker 2>you can think of that as we can you can

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<v Speaker 2>take three assembly lines and put it in the same

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<v Speaker 2>footprint of one. What it does is help eliminate the menial,

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<v Speaker 2>the mundane, and the repetitive, and it could pick more

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<v Speaker 2>than seventy five percent of the inventory that we actually

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<v Speaker 2>sell in our sortable network, which is a really big deal.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really proud of that. And I also say there's

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<v Speaker 2>just something interesting about blue Jay as well as compared

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<v Speaker 2>to our other bird manipulation systems, Cardinal Sparrow and Robin

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<v Speaker 2>it took us about three years to kind of design, deploy,

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<v Speaker 2>and get out to our frontline employees. We have actually

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<v Speaker 2>done blue Jay with the power of AI in just

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<v Speaker 2>over a year. So it's really the pace of innovation.

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<v Speaker 3>I think one a lot of people think about Amazon

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<v Speaker 3>and robots, I just want to jump in because we

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<v Speaker 3>don't have a ton of time, but I have that

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<v Speaker 3>I want we'll get to some of the other announcements.

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<v Speaker 3>They think about the Kiva Systems robots, the big acquisition

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<v Speaker 3>at the time, you know, twenty twelve, that was a

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<v Speaker 3>big acquisition for Amazon, and they've seen pictures of the

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<v Speaker 3>way that those can move large loads of things across warehouses.

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<v Speaker 3>But if you were to go into a state of

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<v Speaker 3>the art Amazon warehouse today, what would you see That's

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<v Speaker 3>in addition to those Kiva robots.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, in addition to the world's first goods to person

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<v Speaker 2>fulfillment strategy, which was just a really good idea where

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<v Speaker 2>we have more than a million robots that we manufacture

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<v Speaker 2>action in Massachusetts doing that job every day. You're going

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<v Speaker 2>to see more of the unstructured fields, right, So you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to see green robot that we call Proteus that

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<v Speaker 2>can move big cargoes of packages to the right dock

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<v Speaker 2>at the right time. You're going to see many more

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<v Speaker 2>manipulation systems that they we have in there, eliminating the

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<v Speaker 2>kind of the repetitive motions that they we have. No

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<v Speaker 2>one wants to lift a fifty pounds box box all day.

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<v Speaker 2>Robin does that, Cardinal does that. Moving into some of

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<v Speaker 2>these proteus bound krts that we have, you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>see much more collaborative robotics.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's where we build our robotic systems to enable

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<v Speaker 2>people to augment what people are capable of. And we

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<v Speaker 2>really believe in the philosophy of people and machines working together.

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<v Speaker 2>How can we build a tool set that enables our

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<v Speaker 2>employees to do their job not only more efficiently, but

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<v Speaker 2>also with better safety in mind?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So there's this robot arm called blue Jay.

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<v Speaker 1>You just talked about it. You know, you guys are

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<v Speaker 1>using this AI agent called the Iluna, and then you're

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<v Speaker 1>also working with augmented reality glasses to be worn by

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<v Speaker 1>drivers and delivery trucks in the field. There's like so

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<v Speaker 1>much going on. Step back for a moment, because you

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<v Speaker 1>guys have a lot of data. You look at what

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing. I'm just curious investors who are thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>Amazon and what you are doing. How do they think

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<v Speaker 1>about the long term, like ROI return on investment when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to the investments you guys make in robots.

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<v Speaker 1>Is the goal about labor efficiency, through put speed or

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<v Speaker 1>is it margin expansion kind of tie across your fulfillment operations?

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<v Speaker 1>What is it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Well, definitely efficiency. We think about efficiencies and how

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<v Speaker 2>can we gain efficiency through all the chain of our

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<v Speaker 2>fulfillment processes for sure, And you mentioned data and data

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<v Speaker 2>is the fuel for AI systems. Data has allowed us

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<v Speaker 2>to bring think of the body of being our robotics,

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<v Speaker 2>but bring the mind to robotics, allowing it to be

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<v Speaker 2>more adaptable, more fluid. You can almost think of this

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<v Speaker 2>as the ability to pour our robotics systems into any

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<v Speaker 2>size building, any scale of building, to amplify what our

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<v Speaker 2>employees are already doing. We want to give them an

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<v Speaker 2>amazing tool set, and we see that when we do that,

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<v Speaker 2>we're more productive. Right when you do robotics, Right when

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<v Speaker 2>you do collab of robotics where you need both people

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<v Speaker 2>and machines doing what they do best and they do

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<v Speaker 2>different things better, That it allows you to be more productive,

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<v Speaker 2>and when you're more productive, that allows you to invest

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<v Speaker 2>more in people. We've skilled more than seven hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 2>of our employees, which is a great stat And also

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<v Speaker 2>in our robotics, we've expanded from the Kiva days, We've

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<v Speaker 2>expanded from just a movement solution to now movement and

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<v Speaker 2>mobility and sortation and storage and perception systems, packing systems

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<v Speaker 2>that have really changed the game for our customers. That's

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<v Speaker 2>a big deal to us. What ty.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you need less workers and I got to bring

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<v Speaker 1>it up. You know, The Times had a story out.

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<v Speaker 1>They talked about interviews and a cash of internal struts

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<v Speaker 1>documents that they saw that it reveals that your execs

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<v Speaker 1>think that the company's on the cusp of its next

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<v Speaker 1>big workplace shift. I'm reading from the Times and replacing

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<v Speaker 1>more than half a million jobs with robots, so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we know things change. I'm not in a horse and

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<v Speaker 1>buggy anymore. I don't make things piecemeal. I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't get tons of faxes and I don't get

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<v Speaker 1>tons of pieces of physical mail. Thank god. Things change.

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<v Speaker 1>Having said that, is Amazon, do you guys believe that

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<v Speaker 1>you're on the cusp of a workplace shift and that

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<v Speaker 1>you won't need as many workers because the advancements in robotics.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, there's no doubt that things change. I mean, and

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<v Speaker 2>we're actually really proud of that day. And Amazon is

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<v Speaker 2>that we avoid stasis at all costs. We change and

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<v Speaker 2>we adapt and the nature of tasks definitely changed. There's

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<v Speaker 2>no doubt about that. We are laser focused on efficiencies

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<v Speaker 2>inside of our buildings. But when it comes to that article,

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<v Speaker 2>that article was speculating ten years out right, that's a

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<v Speaker 2>ten year speculation, and it's it's hard to say what's

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<v Speaker 2>going to happen in the next ten years. But I

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<v Speaker 2>can tell you what happened in the last ten years,

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<v Speaker 2>the last ten years, which is when we seriously invested

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<v Speaker 2>in robotics, that we created hundreds of thousands of new

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<v Speaker 2>jobs and new job types. And there's been no employer

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<v Speaker 2>in the United States that has employed more people than

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<v Speaker 2>Amazon in ten years. I mean, that's and that's the

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<v Speaker 2>power of efficiencies and building your robots in way that's

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<v Speaker 2>applied and real that actually augments the human potential.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, my brother say, I'm like a dog with

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<v Speaker 1>a bone. Wait, so does that mean ten years out.

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<v Speaker 1>It could be less jobs or we just don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>or you don't think that's the case.

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<v Speaker 2>Well you have to think about I mean, there's jobs

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<v Speaker 2>and there's tasks, right, so we of course we're changing

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<v Speaker 2>the nature of tasks. Like I'm very bullish on eliminating

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<v Speaker 2>every menial, mundane and repetitive job out there. Nobody wants

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<v Speaker 2>to do that. So we were going to change those

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<v Speaker 2>tasks one hundred percent. But we can again, as history

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<v Speaker 2>has shown, we continue to create jobs, right with the

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<v Speaker 2>goal of two things. Can you have it all? Can

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<v Speaker 2>you be more productive which means more efficiency, and can

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<v Speaker 2>you also create a safer environment for employees? And we're

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<v Speaker 2>actually doing both. That's what history has shown. In the

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<v Speaker 2>last ten years. We have created better than thirty percent

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<v Speaker 2>reduction in our overall recordable injury rate over the last

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<v Speaker 2>five years because of our robotics and also much more efficient.

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<v Speaker 2>For example, our latest generation filment center in shreport is

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five percent more efficient the order. So you can

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<v Speaker 2>have it all, but you have to build your robotics

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<v Speaker 2>in the right way that empowers people.

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<v Speaker 3>We're speaking with Ty Brady, chief technologist at Amazon Robotics.

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<v Speaker 3>When we think about hiring for these one off or

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<v Speaker 3>seasonal events like the holiday season, our Amazon Prime Day.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm wondering how you're putting pencil to paper right now

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<v Speaker 3>and thinking about those numbers and to what extent automation

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<v Speaker 3>has read deduced Amazon's dependency on seasonal or hourly labor

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<v Speaker 3>for holidays, for Prime Day. What does that look like

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<v Speaker 3>or what will that look like this year next year?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's the same philosophy of empowering employees, whether they're

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<v Speaker 2>temporary or the full time employees with the world's best

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<v Speaker 2>machines that help them do their job. It's the same philosophy.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really proud of the fact that this year we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to offer more than two hundred and fifty thousand

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<v Speaker 2>temporary jobs for our employees to come in during the

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<v Speaker 2>holiday season. Those are good paying jobs. I'm really happy

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<v Speaker 2>about that, really pleased with that. And I'm really pleased

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<v Speaker 2>with the work that our women and men have done

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<v Speaker 2>in the robotics field designing the pioneering these new physical

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<v Speaker 2>AI systems that help them do their jobs better.

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<v Speaker 1>I got to say, one thing that I've been thinking

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<v Speaker 1>a lot about is what's going on overseas, whether it's China,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's Japan. Bloomberg has done some reporting about service

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<v Speaker 1>industries in Japan because they have a labor shortage that

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<v Speaker 1>they are leading increasingly on robotics. Have you been over

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<v Speaker 1>there and looking at what they're doing, and I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>cures if you're seeing some things that are pretty impressive

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<v Speaker 1>and that the US as a creator of things or

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<v Speaker 1>its role in the robotics industry, has to keep a

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<v Speaker 1>watch on what's going on in other countries.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it's easy, especially in robotics, to get

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<v Speaker 2>distracted about, you know, what other people are doing. I

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<v Speaker 2>think anybody can make a YouTube video. I think anybody

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<v Speaker 2>can kind of you pop in and overflate something. But

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<v Speaker 2>if you come into our world, our world is all

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<v Speaker 2>about application. Our world is the reality, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking with Ty Brady, chief technologist robotics at Amazon.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course our shot FROs. That's the world of technology.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking a lot about technology. Stuff happens, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>hoping we can get tied back just to finish up

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<v Speaker 1>this conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe the robots are using all the Wi Fi.

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<v Speaker 1>Robots, Like, I don't like what it is that is

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<v Speaker 1>a connectivity thing though, Well, fees into the past, right

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<v Speaker 1>like you.

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<v Speaker 3>All passion about resources?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, charge these puppies. Can't just plug them in right

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<v Speaker 1>if there? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>We need recharging too.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, it's called food and sleep. Yeah, for Tim,

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<v Speaker 1>it's called food, food and sleep.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I will say?

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<v Speaker 1>Do we have tie back? Can we grab them for

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seconds? Tye, twenty seconds forgive us your final thoughts here?

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry about that.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's okay, let it go.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm ready for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, twenty seconds, just final thoughts for our audience because

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<v Speaker 1>we got to run.

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<v Speaker 2>So final thoughts are is that robotics, when done the

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<v Speaker 2>right way, when you reframe your relationship with machines, you

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<v Speaker 2>can enable more productivity, create greater efficiencies, and create a

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<v Speaker 2>more safer environment for employees. And this collaborative mindset that

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<v Speaker 2>we've had, that we've done for the last ten years

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<v Speaker 2>really does make the day.

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<v Speaker 1>Ty Brady over at Amazon, so appreciate it.