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Speaker 1: here with Maddy glab on One Bill's Live, coming to

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Speaker 1: we need football. This is just rough stuff, but we

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Speaker 1: great write up. I've even seen, Maddie, some of our

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Speaker 1: We also have, as always the Twitter poll, and with

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Speaker 1: the better minute the team and wanted to hang out

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Speaker 1: with the guys and wanted to learn and get to

435
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Speaker 1: know the guys, and I thought that was pretty special. Um.

436
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 1: You know, when you hear all these crazy stories in

437
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Speaker 1: the media, and UM, I think that he's had a

438
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Speaker 1: bad rap of where he's had And you know, I've

439
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 1: gotten to see video after video of him miked up

440
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:31,160
Speaker 1: and just talking great things and talking you know, teamwork

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Speaker 1: to the guys and just letting everybody know he's he's

442
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,879
Speaker 1: about the team. And UM, I don't know. I was

443
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Speaker 1: on Twitter a few minutes ago and I saw the

444
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Speaker 1: Minneapolis miracle and just even the way the guys greeted

445
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Speaker 1: him in the end zone. Obviously there's a lot of hype,

446
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Speaker 1: but he's a guy that everybody in the locker room's

447
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 1: gonna love. Um, And for him to be one such

448
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 1: an explosive player and a great player, and he's gonna

449
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 1: add a lot to our offense and a lot to

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Speaker 1: our team. But two, he's gonna be a great guy

451
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Speaker 1: in the locker room. That guy's gonna look on and

452
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a leader for us too. And I

453
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 1: think that he's gonna mix very well in with John

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Speaker 1: and Cole and the leadership that they have and the

455
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Speaker 1: roles that they have, and it's gonna be I really

456
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a great thing. So Maddie the

457
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,199
Speaker 1: bit you can tell me. But the biggest surprise for

458
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Speaker 1: me was Josh, just in two days of seeing Stefan

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Speaker 1: Digg's work and interact with his teammates already has Josh

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Speaker 1: pegging Stefan as leadership material. But what did you take

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Speaker 1: away from from what he had to say about Stefan. Yeah,

462
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Speaker 1: I mean the leadership part definitely stands out. It's it's

463
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Speaker 1: tough to label a new and Sean McDermot and Brandonbean

464
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Speaker 1: have talked about this, Uh, if you're coming into the

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Speaker 1: team as a new player, let alone in a virtual offseason,

466
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Speaker 1: it is so difficult to take a leadership step. And

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Speaker 1: the fact that he's been able to do that via

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Speaker 1: Zoom meetings, via this three day training camp they had

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Speaker 1: training workout that they all had together, and that Josh

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00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 1: already sees leadership qualities from him is incredible, especially when

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Speaker 1: the world has labeled him as being a diva and

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Speaker 1: things like that on the vikings and that Josh is

473
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Speaker 1: completely throwing that to the side and saying that it

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Speaker 1: is not at all who stuff on Diggs is another

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Speaker 1: thing that stood out to me is just the work

476
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Speaker 1: ethic that he has and how important his craft is

477
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 1: and how he loves to go out there and run routes.

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Speaker 1: I think a quarterback like Josh Allen, who is so

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Speaker 1: committed to his work, to see that out of one

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Speaker 1: of his teammates, a wide receiver, I think it is

481
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Speaker 1: just great. So many of these players on this team

482
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Speaker 1: work so hard and work hours long after practices. We

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Speaker 1: see guys all the time on the jugs machine. Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen will be out on the practice field much longer

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Speaker 1: after practice ends. And to see that from one of

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Speaker 1: the new players already, I think just tells you about

487
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 1: the type of people that are on this team and

488
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Speaker 1: how committed they are already to making it to the playoffs,

489
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Speaker 1: into getting deep into the playoffs. Yeah, certainly encouraging that.

490
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 1: While Stefan Diggs is supremely gifted athletically, he puts a

491
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Speaker 1: high priority on the precision of his game and that's

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Speaker 1: exemplified in the way he does work on the finer

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Speaker 1: points and nuances of his route running. And Josh did

494
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 1: admit that those two days certainly helped, and he drew

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Speaker 1: a parallel really quick, just because I know we're up

496
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Speaker 1: on the break here really quick. He drew a parallel

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Speaker 1: to getting on the same page with Diggs with no

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Speaker 1: OTAs or mini camp, to the thing he had to

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Speaker 1: go through with Cole Beasley last year, because if we

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00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: were mentioned, if we remember, Cole Beasley had that core

501
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Speaker 1: muscle surgery in the spring last year, missed everything, and

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Speaker 1: so it wasn't until training camp when they actually got

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Speaker 1: a chance to get on the field on a regular

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Speaker 1: basis with each other, excuse me, and it took a

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Speaker 1: little time early in the regular season before they got

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Speaker 1: up to speed. Now, Josh did also say in the

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Speaker 1: conference call that they're going to try to schedule one

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Speaker 1: more collective offensive workouts before training camps. So hopefully they

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00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: can all find a day or two that works for

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Speaker 1: them on the schedule and that can come to pass.

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Speaker 1: But I do think that having gone through that with

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Speaker 1: Beasley will help Alan going forward here with Stefan, So

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00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 1: hopefully that proves to be the case for those guys

514
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Speaker 1: and they can get on the right page, same page

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Speaker 1: sooner rather than later. Eight O three five fifty. If

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Speaker 1: you want to weigh in on Josh and what he said,

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Speaker 1: or you have any questions for Maddie your eye on

518
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Speaker 1: that since we were both on that call. We also

519
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Speaker 1: need you to weigh in on the Twitter poll. Has

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00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: the balance of power shifted in professional sports to the

521
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Speaker 1: players and their respective platforms with all that's gone on

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Speaker 1: with the racial injustices. You can hit us on the

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Speaker 1: tweet sheet there, but we'll address more about what Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen had to say in his forty to forty five

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Speaker 1: minute zo call with the Western New York Media yesterday.

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Speaker 1: We have other things to cover on that, including tweaking

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Speaker 1: his mechanics. We've got Nate Boyer, the former NFL long

528
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Speaker 1: snapper six year Army green Beret, coming up at one,

529
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Speaker 1: and then Shield Capatia, the NFL writer for The Athletic,

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Speaker 1: with ten things from a football nerds guy to the

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty Buffalo Bills that's coming your way at two.

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Speaker 1: Plenty of ground to cover here for Maddie and myself

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Speaker 1: on a Friday on one Bills Live. This is Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bills Radio with you on a Friday. Steve Tasker has

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Speaker 1: the day off kind of moving his youngest of five, Maddie,

536
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Speaker 1: out to Louisville as he begins his career out there.

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Speaker 1: So Steve is officially an empty nester. I don't know

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Speaker 1: how he's handling that. Of course, he's already got four grandkids.

539
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Speaker 1: So I told him yesterday he's going to just be

540
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 1: hitting the reset button with all the baby sitting and

541
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Speaker 1: sleep over with the grandkid things. It's going to be happening.

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Speaker 1: So now I don't think anything's gonna change. He's just

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00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: taken another lap. Yeah, he's just welcome, welcoming more kids

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Speaker 1: into his household, now younger kids. Yeah, and he's like, yeah,

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00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: he said, I'm fifty eight. Now he goes, that's not

546
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Speaker 1: going to be as easy as it once was. So

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Speaker 1: he's got a whole other adventure on his hands. But

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Speaker 1: safe travels to him and Sarah and his son out

549
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 1: there and could look to his son start in his career.

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Speaker 1: We're talking Josh Allen, who was on a forty five

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Speaker 1: minute zoom call with the Western New York Media yesterday.

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00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: Probably the last opportunity we'll all get to talk to

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Speaker 1: him before training camp starts, because this is usually the

554
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Speaker 1: time where the players get that five week break after

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00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 1: June Mini camp. Although Josh did tell us yesterday they

556
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Speaker 1: do have one more week of virtual meetings with the

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Speaker 1: coaching staff, so that'll be this coming week and then

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Speaker 1: they'll be done before training camp opens in July. And Josh,

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00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: you know, covered a number of topics and you know,

560
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: we talked in the last segment about how he kind

561
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: of put his stance out there on where he is

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Speaker 1: on some of the social and racial injustices going on

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Speaker 1: in today's world. And then we kind of got into

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Speaker 1: his thoughts about Stefan Diggs, a player that, as we anticipated,

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Speaker 1: he's very excited about and also believes that Stefan right

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Speaker 1: away is leadership material for the offensive team meeting room.

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Speaker 1: So that was encouraging to hear as well. But he

568
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: got into a host of other subjects and Mattie, this

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Speaker 1: was pretty funny some of the virtual meeting snaff foos.

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Speaker 1: It's nice to know that I'm not the only person

571
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Speaker 1: out there that's had an issue with some of the

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Speaker 1: virtual meeting stuff that we've all had to get used to, right. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's good to hear that professional athletes are struggling just

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Speaker 1: like us everyday people. Whether it's it's getting yourself off

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Speaker 1: mute or whether it's not realizing your videos off. I mean,

576
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Speaker 1: everybody has a story about how zoom has not worked

577
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: perfectly for that. So Josh, and we'll get into this

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Speaker 1: after we hear from him on this, but he was asked,

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Speaker 1: you know, how are you and your teammates handling all

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Speaker 1: these virtual meetings. We know coaches are trying to make

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Speaker 1: them as interesting and entertaining as possible, whether they're doing

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Speaker 1: game show quizzes to see who knows what out of

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Speaker 1: the playbook or some other means to kind of keep

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Speaker 1: guys engaged. But as we know, Brian Dable likes to

585
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Speaker 1: hand the keys of things over to Josh to kind

586
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Speaker 1: of run meetings at times, and that's where one of

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00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 1: these latest snaffo's happened. So here's Josh kind of laying

588
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Speaker 1: out what went a little haywire in one of their

589
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: recent virtual meetings. We've been experiencing some technical difficulties just

590
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 1: like what you just had, just sometimes being Amela. We

591
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: were in meeting yesterday and we were going over the

592
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Speaker 1: white board and I'm supposed to be calling the plays

593
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: and getting cadence, and twenty minutes later get attacks from

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Speaker 1: Pat de Marco like hey, are you in this thing?

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Speaker 1: And I looked down, I have to open up, and

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00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 1: I was on muted the whole time, so missed out

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Speaker 1: on a good twenty minutes and talk about some plays.

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Speaker 1: But we'll make it up eventually and at dable in

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Speaker 1: this year and he's trying to relaby play so I

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00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,359
Speaker 1: can pass along to these guys, and you know, we're

601
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: still figuring out some of the kinks, but it's it's

602
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 1: been good, and it's just you know, guys are attentive

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Speaker 1: in these meetings and they know it's only a couple

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Speaker 1: hours out of the day, so they're trying to get

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Speaker 1: the most out of it. So I have a three

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Speaker 1: part system over here. I got my phone, which dables

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Speaker 1: on the phone, and I got my earpiece in, I

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Speaker 1: got the iPad so I can zoom, and then urged whiteboard,

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Speaker 1: and then I had my laptop to be on the zoom.

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Speaker 1: So that's how I communicate with the guys, and we

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Speaker 1: draw on the white board and we can all do

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Speaker 1: it that way. So it was pretty intricate for what

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Speaker 1: we were doing. So Mattie, this is basically an offensive

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Speaker 1: coordinator and a quarterback trying to duplicate what they do

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Speaker 1: on the practice field. When Josh has his helmet on

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Speaker 1: and can talk into a walkie talkie which goes into

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Speaker 1: the earpiece in Josh's helmet. They're trying to duplicate that

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Speaker 1: in a zoom call, and it wasn't that crazy with

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Speaker 1: him explaining all of that as they're trying to kind

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Speaker 1: of replicate it. I think it's so creative what they're doing.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure there's other NFL teams that are doing similar

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Speaker 1: things with their offensive coordinator to quarterback, but really creative.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what a way to make a setting like

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Speaker 1: that as close to practice as possible. And hilarious that

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00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: Josh is trying to do his best, probably to call

626
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Speaker 1: out these plays while Dave Ball is in his ear

627
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 1: and twenty minutes later he gets a are you even

628
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 1: on this thing, dude? Yeah? Like the thing that doesn't

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Speaker 1: make sense to me is if Josh is still relaying

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Speaker 1: plays for the better part of twenty minutes, then Dabel

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Speaker 1: must not have known that Josh was on mute either,

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Speaker 1: So there must have been some other way that coach

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00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: Dabel was still hearing Josh thinking it was going out

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00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:03,479
Speaker 1: to all the players. But those poor players are sitting

635
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: there going what's going on here? Is anybody saying anything?

636
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 1: And so Josh just so it's clear to everybody listening

637
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:17,919
Speaker 1: he's using three different devices in these Zoom calls when

638
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,240
Speaker 1: he's running the offense. So he's got his cell phone

639
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: with an earpiece attached to it, and Brian Dable is

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00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: relaying the plays to him on the phone. And then

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00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 1: he has an iPad, which essentially serves as a group whiteboard,

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00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: like a whiteboard that would be up in front of

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Speaker 1: the classroom if they were all in a classroom together,

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00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: and he's drawing stuff on there that pertain to the

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00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: play that he's calling. And then he's also on his laptop,

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00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 1: which connects him virtually to all his teammates on the

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Speaker 1: actual Zoom call. I gotta tell you I have enough

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Speaker 1: But I guess quarterbacks are used to that with all

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Speaker 1: they're gonna juggle. Yeah, I could do made me one

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Speaker 1: of those things kind of well, but let alone three

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Speaker 1: For him to have to do a few things during

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Speaker 1: and decision making. Hopefully when they start to get to

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Speaker 1: doing to improve his throwing motion and delivery. I've been

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Speaker 1: that to continue to work on that. Obviously there's gonna

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Speaker 1: in the off season. But I feel good where I'm

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Speaker 1: as good as his mechanic tweakings might be, in you know,

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Speaker 1: his head off. That he recognizes that there are times

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Speaker 1: talking to guys who have been there, done that, who

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Speaker 1: have excelled in the league is so important. You want

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Speaker 1: when you're an NFL quarterback, and the time to tweak

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Speaker 1: so hard to make those tweaks in season when you're

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Speaker 1: playing every single week in Brownie. You and I both

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Speaker 1: played sports growing up. You know, it's so hard to

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Speaker 1: It takes time to make those things a part of

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Speaker 1: Hopefully this plays into once the season starts that these

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Speaker 1: things are now muscle memory for him. Yeah, And he

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Speaker 1: And I talked to David Lee about Romo, who he

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Speaker 1: taught him in over the top motion that actually and

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Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. But David Lee told me that

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Speaker 1: in a summer to get the motor memory and to

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Speaker 1: get the whole thing fixed. So you're absolutely right that

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Speaker 1: need a lot of time for it to stick. And

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Speaker 1: then even sometimes when you're under pressure, you fall back

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Speaker 1: to bad habits. So it's good that Josh has an

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Speaker 1: awareness of that and he also talked about how Brian

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Speaker 1: Dable got Peyton Manning and Brett Farven for some of

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Speaker 1: their quarterback room zoom calls and how he pulled a

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Speaker 1: lot from that. In fact, Manning was the inspiration for

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Speaker 1: him to set up those South Florida practices. So good

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Speaker 1: aunt Josh for a kind of taking whatever he could

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Speaker 1: some of the best quarterbacks in the league to ever

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Speaker 1: do it. Eighth three fifty. If you want to call

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Speaker 1: us about Josh and what he had to say, or

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Speaker 1: you have any questions about some of the things he addressed.

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Speaker 1: We also have our Twitter poll as the balance of

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Speaker 1: power changed in professional sports to the players in their

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Speaker 1: respective platforms and kind of moving things and moving the

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Speaker 1: needle with respect to racial injustice. Maddie and I'll hit

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Speaker 1: the tweet sheet here in our next segment, It's One

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Speaker 1: Bills Live presented by Kalida Health and this is Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bill's Radio Welcome Back Friday Fly. Addition, Chris Brown, Maddi

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Speaker 1: glab with you as we're cruising through the first hour.

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Speaker 1: At one o'clock, we'll have Nay four or the former

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Speaker 1: NFL long snapper, six year Army green Beret and chief

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Speaker 1: confidant of one Colin Kaepernick when he wanted to know

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Speaker 1: what would be the most respectful way to peacefully protest

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Speaker 1: back when he was a quarterback for the forty nine ers.

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Speaker 1: Nate Boy or the former Green Beret, the one that

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Speaker 1: suggested kneeling in terms of a protest during the national anthem.

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Speaker 1: So we'll talk to him at the top of the

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Speaker 1: hour get his thoughts on the current movement that's criss

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Speaker 1: crossed the country with two weeks of protests here in

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Speaker 1: the wake of George Floyd's death and the racial injustices

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Speaker 1: that are being addressed by the general public and hopefully,

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Speaker 1: in the not too distant future, politicians that can make

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Speaker 1: legitimate changes as well. Eight oh three, oh five fifty

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Speaker 1: If you want to jump on board and address our

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Speaker 1: Twitter poll question, which is has there been a shift

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Speaker 1: in power in professional sports? As promised, we're going to

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Speaker 1: the tweet sheet, which is presented by Corring and Moving Systems,

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Speaker 1: the official equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills and Maddie.

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Speaker 1: Why don't you read this first one from Bills and

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Speaker 1: Mets Fan. Bills and Mets Fan says this is a

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Speaker 1: very good pull, but it's probably too early to say, however,

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Speaker 1: looking into my crystal ball, as an optimist, I say,

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Speaker 1: these things have changed, and that is long and that

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Speaker 1: as long as people keep the heat on power, then

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Speaker 1: substantial changes can become realized in sports and in the

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Speaker 1: world go bills and I kind of sided with this.

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Speaker 1: I totally agree with this. I think optimistically, yes, but

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Speaker 1: I think it's totally too early to say if this

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Speaker 1: lot of us hope it will, right And I would say,

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Speaker 1: just in being in a panel discussion just yesterday with

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Speaker 1: I think the biggest concern now that the movement is

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Speaker 1: let's not lose the momentum. I think the concern is

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Speaker 1: actually need it to be the opposite. I think they

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Speaker 1: get the necessary pressure on the political leaders who can

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Speaker 1: make the legislative types of changes to get the playing

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Speaker 1: police reform. And we heard Mayor Brown, and I know

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Speaker 1: you were at the press conference and can probably shed

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Speaker 1: a little more light on this, But police reform, not

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Speaker 1: at least in Buffalo, not defunding the police. I don't

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Speaker 1: think Mayor Brown wants to go that far, but serious, legitimate,

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Speaker 1: changing kinds of police reform, so the incidents that we

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Speaker 1: eleven o'clock news do not become reality anymore. Yeah. Completely,

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Speaker 1: I think what Mayor Brown is doing is amazing. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's listening to the community, which the rules, the laws,

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Speaker 1: what's an effect should be for the people, So you

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Speaker 1: the fact that he's taken steps in the right direction

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Speaker 1: to address police reform. Like you said, he doesn't believe

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Speaker 1: in defunding the police. He would rather begin with reform

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Speaker 1: and have it be just a step of many steps

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Speaker 1: to come in reforming police and making it less of

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Speaker 1: enforcement and more of a community that can all help

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Speaker 1: each other. All Right, we've very quickly run out of

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Speaker 1: time in this segment, but we will revisit the tweet sheets,

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Speaker 1: so feel free to send your comments as well. As

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Speaker 1: there's been a shift in power in professional sports to

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Speaker 1: the players and their respective platforms. Also, you can get

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Speaker 1: on the horn at eight oh three fifty one eighty

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Speaker 1: eight fifty two, five fifty. But coming up next, we've

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Speaker 1: got the former NFL long snapper in six year Army

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Speaker 1: Green Beret. It's Nate Boyer, who was instrumental in helping

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Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick choose an appropriate peaceful protest back when he

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Speaker 1: was a quarterback in the NFL with the forty nine ers.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to him on the other side. This is

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Speaker 1: One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health on Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 1: Oh good time watch Steve Clasper to such time touch

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Speaker 1: down to downs not lumb time. Welcome back our number

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Speaker 1: two of one Bills Live presented by Kalida Health. Chris

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Speaker 1: Brown and Maddie Glab with you. Steve Tasker with the

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Speaker 1: day off as he's on the road headed to Louis Vilta,

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Speaker 1: set up his son and his new career out there

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Speaker 1: Kentucky Way, so he'll be back next week and joining

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Speaker 1: us on the line now, as promised, former NFL long

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Speaker 1: snapper and a six year Army Green Beret one Nate Boyer,

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Speaker 1: joining us here on the line. Nate, how you doing,

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown, MADDI glab with you. Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty good. How are you guys doing? We're doing okay. Um. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: this is an unprecedented time in terms of what we're

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Speaker 1: dealing with when you roll a pandemic and a social

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Speaker 1: I know the protests have only been going on for

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Speaker 1: two weeks, but this is a heck of a juxtaposition

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Speaker 1: that is clearly unprecedented in our country. But I know

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Speaker 1: the social injustice is kind of hit a little bit

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Speaker 1: closer to home for you. What just your initial reaction

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Speaker 1: to the movement that you've seen nationwide here these last

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Speaker 1: two weeks. Yeah, I mean it's been pretty pretty incredible.

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Speaker 1: It's quite a quite an outpouring, quite an outcry I think,

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Speaker 1: know very little. And I think that what it looks

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Speaker 1: like now to me at least, it looks like much

862
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 1: of the you know, the rioting and the looting and

863
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 1: all that stuff has subsided um for the most part,

864
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 1: you know, And it's like it's the message is very clear.

865
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 1: I think it's a lot more clear now if you're

866
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 1: listening than um four years ago. Even though Colin Kaepernick

867
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 1: and many others were very clear about what the narrative was,

868
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 1: the media had to hijack that quite a bit. When

869
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 1: I'm speak in regards to you know, the anthem protest itself. UM.

870
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 1: So that's good, and that's and like things, things you

871
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: need to change. We need to do better as a country.

872
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 1: Or regardless of your feelings and emotions on this issue,

873
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 1: I think everyone should agree on America. America should be

874
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 1: all about out doing what's best for every American, you know,

875
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 1: and finding a way for everybody to feel equal and

876
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:07,359
Speaker 1: to feel like they count as much as a man

877
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 1: and woman next to them, and that they're protected in

878
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 1: that same way, you know. And that goes for law

879
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 1: enforcement and many many other things as well. Now, we

880
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:19,840
Speaker 1: saw a bunch of NFL players release a video on

881
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:25,399
Speaker 1: their own personal accounts, including Patrick Mahomes, and explaining why

882
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: black lives matter and basically saying that they could have

883
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: been George Floyd. Uh. Then we saw Roger Goodell release

884
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 1: a video of him saying that he stands with the

885
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,399
Speaker 1: black community. After that video was released, and we found

886
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 1: out that Goodell's video was in the works while the

887
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: players were releasing their video. What was your reaction to

888
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: Roger Goodell's response to the social injustice movement that we're seeing. No,

889
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:55,800
Speaker 1: I mean I think it was. I think it was

890
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 1: really good. It was. It was, it was strong, it

891
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 1: was there was a show of humility there and also, um,

892
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: you know, recognition of like, hey, I be in the

893
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 1: you know, I represent that. He represents the league. I mean,

894
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 1: he is the he is the commissioner. I could have

895
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 1: done better, I should have done better, and I apologize,

896
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:18,359
Speaker 1: and you know, I'm committing to doing doing better going forward.

897
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:19,959
Speaker 1: And then it's like, you know, it'll be it'll remain

898
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 1: to be seeing what that actually looks like. But um, no,

899
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 1: I thought it was. I thought it was good. People

900
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,320
Speaker 1: are going to pick apart everything no matter what you do.

901
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,879
Speaker 1: A lot of people were upset because he didn't mention

902
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 1: Colin Kapernick's name, and they have every right to feel

903
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 1: that way, you know, and I understand that. But I thought,

904
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,800
Speaker 1: I personally thought that was a big step. That was

905
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,760
Speaker 1: a big move, because I mean that it's the NFL's

906
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 1: got a lot of that is a very nuanced organization

907
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 1: with a lot of different sponsors and thirty two different teams,

908
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 1: and you know, every owner's probably got their feelings and

909
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 1: emotions about that, and all the way across the board.

910
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: I mean, there's thousands and thousands of people that are

911
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 1: employed by the league, and so it's not a need,

912
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 1: not an easy position for him to be in. And

913
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 1: and you know, to do that, I think, and that's

914
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:05,320
Speaker 1: the first time hearing of that, I didn't realize it

915
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 1: was already in the works, you know, before even that

916
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 1: player that video came out by the players, So that

917
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: even that's even better. I think that just showing um.

918
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 1: But like, hey, look, I mean I'm here, I hear you, America,

919
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 1: and I should have heard you four years ago better

920
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 1: and I didn't, you know, And I apologize, and like,

921
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 1: let's let's move forward and let's fix this. Let's be

922
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 1: a part of UM representing everybody equally and and feeling like,

923
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:32,800
Speaker 1: you know, the league has has got to do a

924
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:34,839
Speaker 1: better job of really listening to their players and working

925
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 1: with them alongside them too to make these changes. I mean,

926
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: sports and politics, much as some people maybe hate it, uh,

927
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 1: they do often go hand in hand in a lot

928
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 1: of ways. And you look at this activism over the years, UM,

929
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,800
Speaker 1: not just by by black athletes, but by many athletes.

930
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 1: We're talking to Nate Boyer, the former NFL long snapper

931
00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: for Clcahawks and a six year Army Green and I

932
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 1: think Nate, you probably anticipated I was going to get

933
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 1: here at some point. We know the blowback that Drew

934
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: Brees endured after he kind of put the two issues

935
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 1: together again, which kind of misses the mark in terms

936
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 1: of peacefully protesting social injustice by kneeling during the national

937
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 1: anthem and cross mixing that, for lack of a better term,

938
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 1: with disrespecting the flag. Now, I think a lot of

939
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:35,839
Speaker 1: people across the country that were against that peaceful form

940
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 1: of protest immediately focused on their own feelings in saying

941
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 1: I am offended by this, instead of asking why people

942
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,359
Speaker 1: are peacefully protesting like that. First, and I think that's

943
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 1: why there was such a divide there. My question to you, though, Nate,

944
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 1: is being a person who served this country multiple tours

945
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 1: in Iraq and Afghanistan, and being the one that suggested

946
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 1: this as the form of peaceful protest for Colin Kaepernick

947
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 1: that would at least be respectful to the flag during

948
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 1: the national anthem by kneeling in a submissive position. How

949
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:17,800
Speaker 1: does it strike you when there's still this mixed messaging

950
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 1: from people that four years later still don't get it. Yeah,

951
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's definitely frustrating. And I'll say this

952
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 1: real quick on Drew Brees. Like, Drew Brees is a

953
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 1: good dude man. He's done a lot for the community.

954
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 1: He's done a lot for the veteran community. He's done

955
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 1: a lot for the city of New Orleans post Katrina.

956
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 1: He's done a lot for the state of Louisiana. He

957
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:42,439
Speaker 1: helped secure him and other Saints players helped secure voting

958
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 1: rights for formerly incarcerated people in Louisiana, and it was

959
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 1: one of the last two states that didn't didn't allow

960
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 1: that until just recently, I think a year or two ago.

961
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 1: So he's done a lot, and what he said, where

962
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 1: he missed the market. What was frustrating was that there's

963
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with feeling the way that he feels when

964
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 1: the anthems played, I feel the exact same way that

965
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 1: that pride right, and I want to stand and you know,

966
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 1: with my hand on my heart, I love this country

967
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 1: and I thought for this country. But not everybody feels

968
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 1: that way, and not everybody feels that it represents them

969
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 1: in the correct way, in an equal way. And that's

970
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 1: okay too, Like it's just an acknowledgment of like, this

971
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,839
Speaker 1: is how I feel. But you know what if this person,

972
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 1: regardless of their color, doesn't feel the same way. I

973
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 1: want to learn. I want to find out how and

974
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 1: what can I do to help you, brother? Like what

975
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 1: can I do to fight for you in some way

976
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 1: and get you to a place where you feel that way,

977
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:36,879
Speaker 1: not just by teaching you something or telling you something

978
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 1: about the way I feel, but by listening to what's

979
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,239
Speaker 1: going on and then being a part of fixing those

980
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 1: issues anyway, that's what we all have to do better

981
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 1: at it. And so him feeling that way nothing wrong

982
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 1: with that. It was just a lack of acknowledgement. And

983
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:55,879
Speaker 1: also it's sort of averted the actual narrative away from

984
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,880
Speaker 1: the fact that these players not just calling but then

985
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 1: others that you know are taking the knee or speaking

986
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 1: out even if they're not protests and gesture, speaking out

987
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 1: against police brutality, social inequality, racial injustice. Excuse me, social injustice,

988
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:15,800
Speaker 1: racial inequality. Um, it's it's it's about that. It's not

989
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 1: about disrespecting the flag. You might feel disrespected or you

990
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 1: might feel like the flag is in respecting somebody do

991
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 1: that and when somebody takes a knee, and you are

992
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:25,919
Speaker 1: entitled to those feelings, but that's not their intent. That's

993
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 1: not why why they're doing it is the other things

994
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 1: that I just said. They're not doing it because they

995
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 1: hate America. They're doing because they want America to be better.

996
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 1: And there is patriotism in that as well. You know,

997
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 1: it's a different different form of just a you know,

998
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 1: symbolic display. It's them wanting their country to do better.

999
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 1: And uh and that you know that means it comes

1000
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 1: from a place of it comes from some place of

1001
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 1: like you must you must love your country at some

1002
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 1: level if you want them to do better, just like

1003
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 1: you would with a with a child, if you didn't

1004
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:55,359
Speaker 1: care then you do nothing, then you would do nothing,

1005
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 1: or if you just hated it, you wouldn't live here.

1006
00:56:56,960 --> 00:57:01,320
Speaker 1: You just some more else. So anyway, going back to

1007
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:03,799
Speaker 1: some of those conversations that you initially had with Colin

1008
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:07,280
Speaker 1: Kaepernick that led to him kneeling during the national anthem.

1009
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 1: What what still do you remember most from from those

1010
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:14,720
Speaker 1: conversations And have you had any recent contact with Colin

1011
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 1: with what's been happening now since George Floyd has been

1012
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 1: murdered and in the whole country has started to protest. Yeah.

1013
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 1: I haven't talked to Colin in a couple of years.

1014
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 1: And for no, there's no bad reason for that. We just,

1015
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 1: you know, were working on different things, different paths. I

1016
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 1: work a lot in the veteran community. Um, but yeah,

1017
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 1: we met. We met in twenty sixteen during the preseason

1018
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 1: and he was initially sitting on the bench already protesting

1019
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 1: during the anthem. And uh, you know, I wrote an

1020
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 1: open letter. I got reached out to all by all

1021
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 1: these mainstream media organizations and they wanted me to come

1022
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 1: on in debate. Right, And this is this is a

1023
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 1: lot of the problem. The narrative has been lost. It's

1024
00:57:54,760 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 1: because he's he's pig. Media corporations, they they speed off division,

1025
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, that's how they say they make

1026
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 1: their money. They want people to be emotional and be angry,

1027
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 1: and and so that's what they share, that's what they

1028
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 1: that's the news that they present to us, and it's

1029
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 1: frustrating and it often distracts from the real reason things

1030
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 1: are happening. And so I said, no, I don't want

1031
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 1: to do that. And I said, I wrote an open

1032
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 1: letter to call him through the Army Times, and you know,

1033
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 1: he read it. It basically just explained my experiences, my

1034
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 1: my background, why I feel the way that I do.

1035
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 1: But also it said, look, I don't know what it's

1036
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 1: like to be black in America. I don't know what

1037
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 1: it's like to walk a day in your shoes. I

1038
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 1: don't know what it's like to be me, you know,

1039
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 1: and to experience what I've experienced. So and at the

1040
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 1: end of the day, I fought too. I fought. I

1041
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 1: took the oath to defend the Constitution in the First Amendment,

1042
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 1: and I fought for those rights and I should still

1043
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 1: fight for those rights today. Colin reached out to me

1044
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:00,160
Speaker 1: and asked if I would meet with him and did.

1045
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 1: We met in San Diego before the final preseason game

1046
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen in the lobby of the team hotel,

1047
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 1: and we had conversation about everything, all these things I

1048
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 1: just mentioned. And it was military Appreciation night down there.

1049
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 1: They had a flyover Navy fields, jumping into the stadium

1050
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 1: and you know, an African American sailor saying the national

1051
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 1: anthem on the field before the game. And you know,

1052
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 1: while we were at the team hotel just hours before kickoff.

1053
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 1: At the end of the conversation, he asked me, do

1054
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:37,440
Speaker 1: you think there's another way I could protest or demonstrate

1055
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 1: it's not going to offend people in the military. And

1056
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 1: I said, no, there's nothing you can do. It's not

1057
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 1: going to offend some people. Like people are just you know,

1058
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 1: everyone's got we got three hundred and fifty million Americans,

1059
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 1: and we've all got a different feeling about everything, you know,

1060
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 1: So like there's not there's blanket statements and absolutes that

1061
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 1: are just being thrown around right now. These days are

1062
00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 1: just ridiculous about any group. But what are their veterans?

1063
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 1: What are they're black Americans? It doesn't matter. It's just

1064
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 1: sup drive me nuts. And I said, where as diverse

1065
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 1: as anybody in the country, the military community. So we're

1066
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 1: going to fill a million different ways about it. But

1067
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 1: if you're asking me my perspective, my feelings, my opinion,

1068
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 1: I think being alongside your teammates is important. I think

1069
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 1: sitting on the bench isolated by yourself optically is not

1070
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 1: as powerful as if you are alongside your teammate in

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Speaker 1: some way. And if you are vowing to not stand

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Speaker 1: until things change, like he had said, I will not

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Speaker 1: stand until I see things start to change, then I

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Speaker 1: think kneelings you're only other option, you know, and kneelings

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Speaker 1: are disrespectful act as far as I'm concerned. People take

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Speaker 1: ane to pray and propose to their wife, and when

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Speaker 1: a players hurt on the field, everyone takes a knee

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Speaker 1: out of respect. And if I ither to visit Arlington

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Speaker 1: and one of my brother's graves, I would take a

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Speaker 1: knee at a respect for him and spend a few moments.

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Speaker 1: And he agreed it was more powerful, and he did

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Speaker 1: it that night, and I stood next to him on

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Speaker 1: the field of Anthem played and yeah, that's sort of

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Speaker 1: the history behind all that. Yeah, talking to Nate Boyer,

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Speaker 1: former NFL long snapper former Army green beret with multiple

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Speaker 1: tours in Iraq and Afghanistan. A topic we're discussing today,

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Speaker 1: Nate on the show is something that came from a

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Speaker 1: Yahoo Sports article just the other days. Has the power

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Speaker 1: in professional sports shifted? And what we mean by that

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Speaker 1: is to the players and their respective platforms using them

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Speaker 1: in a way that maybe they've never done before. Whether

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Speaker 1: it's Lebron James and his efforts right now with respect

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Speaker 1: to voting rights and mobilizing the black community in that fashion,

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Speaker 1: or some of these NFL players that are taking on

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Speaker 1: a greater role, whether it's Josh Norman who's doing a

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Speaker 1: five city tour in six days which included Buffalo, the

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Speaker 1: team he plays for now, and trying to work with

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Speaker 1: political leaders to enact police reform. Having gone through what

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Speaker 1: you did with the Colin Kaepernick situation just a few

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Speaker 1: short years ago and seeing how much resistance that was

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Speaker 1: met with, do you feel that the power in professional

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Speaker 1: sports is shifting here? I know we're early in it,

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Speaker 1: and it's probably an educated guest, but what do you

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Speaker 1: think based on what you've seen to this point? Well,

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Speaker 1: activism and professional sports has always been a very powerful thing.

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Speaker 1: I mean, will she talk about Jackie Robinson or Roberto

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Speaker 1: Clemente or Muhammad Ali or Martina Navratchalova or Billy gen King.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's not just you know, black men, it's

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Speaker 1: it's it's all kind of people throughout our history. Babe Jejerkson,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's really it's really interesting

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Speaker 1: to look at all that and there's always been that crop,

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Speaker 1: that connection, and a lot of people say they don't

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Speaker 1: want to see it. A lot of people say, oh,

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Speaker 1: sick the sports or you know, day out of politics.

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Speaker 1: I don't want The reason I watched sports is I

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01:02:58,240 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 1: want to get away from I want to escape all

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Speaker 1: the paul picking all that. And I understand that, I

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Speaker 1: get that. But at the same time, you know, these

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Speaker 1: people are heroes to a lot of us, even in

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Speaker 1: the military, Like I look up to professional athletes when

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Speaker 1: I'm overseas, I watch games. It is an escape for me.

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Speaker 1: But also, like you know, these people are are more

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Speaker 1: than just These people are more than just the uniform

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Speaker 1: they wear. Much like in the military, you know, they're

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Speaker 1: not just a robot um, They're not just an athlete.

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Speaker 1: They're a human being um with feelings, and opinions, and

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Speaker 1: you know, if they're if they're going to be involved

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Speaker 1: in trying to make our country better and they have

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Speaker 1: the platform to get people to listen that wouldn't normally,

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Speaker 1: then like, I'm all for that stuff, and I think

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Speaker 1: it's great that you know, they're they're more and more

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Speaker 1: people are listening to them and understand like, oh, these

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Speaker 1: aren't just like uneducated ball players, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: they're not just dumb jocks like these are. These are

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Speaker 1: people that are extremely intelligent. UM are very educated on

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Speaker 1: the situation, on the matter, and you know, are working

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01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:01,040
Speaker 1: hard to try to actually fix the problem instead of

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01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 1: just pointing fingers at it. And uh, you know, they're

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Speaker 1: getting involved and that's great. I mean, I don't understand

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Speaker 1: why anybody would be against that. I mean, I guess

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Speaker 1: if you're just one hundred percent in opposition to UM

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Speaker 1: who they are or what they're trying to do, I

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01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 1: guess I can understand why you'd be upset. But otherwise, like,

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Speaker 1: if they're trying to make our country a better and

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01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 1: safer place and they're trying to work, especially in this

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Speaker 1: situation specifically, they're trying to work with law enforcement and

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01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:35,240
Speaker 1: and you know, with political officials to to change change laws.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean to to reform the criminal justicision,

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01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 1: which which needs to reform. It should always be evolving,

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01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:43,600
Speaker 1: should always be changing. You know, it's if we just

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01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 1: went off the strictly off you know what was written

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01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:50,480
Speaker 1: in seventeen seventy six, you know, to the letter, I mean,

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Speaker 1: it would be nuts. Like it doesn't if he come on,

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01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 1: the world's changing, people change, situations change, and you have

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Speaker 1: to adjust. And so we do that in the military

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01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 1: all the time. Like that. It needs to be the

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01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:05,000
Speaker 1: same with with you know, training tactics in reference to

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Speaker 1: law enforcement and also accountability. And we've got to we've

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Speaker 1: just got to do better. And it's hard to argue

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Speaker 1: that mine. You were on ESPN a few days ago

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Speaker 1: on First Take talking about a lot of similar subjects

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Speaker 1: that we're currently talking about. You you discussed a little

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Speaker 1: bit what you've been doing these last couple weeks to

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Speaker 1: help during this time where racial injustice, racial inequality, systemic

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01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:34,720
Speaker 1: racism is something that we're all learning about and we're

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Speaker 1: all talking about, Uh, what have you been up to

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Speaker 1: to help fight racism and in the last few weeks

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Speaker 1: and what do you hope to do down the road. Now.

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Speaker 1: I've always been about continuing to encourage people to listen,

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Speaker 1: you know, to listen and empathize and understand that your

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Speaker 1: feelings and emotions are just yours and it's based on

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01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 1: your experiences alone, all right, man, doesn't make them right

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Speaker 1: or wrong or or you know, more good or less

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Speaker 1: evil than anybody else's. So like, that's a big thing.

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Speaker 1: You know, I do have that that platform to voice that.

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Speaker 1: But also you know, MVP, which stands for Merging Vets

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Speaker 1: and Players, is a charity I started with Jay Glazers

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Speaker 1: about four years ago. We bring together form professional athletes

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Speaker 1: and combat vets and help them find purpose and service

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Speaker 1: and community in that locker room again when the uniform

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Speaker 1: comes off. And the veteran community in the ashlety community

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Speaker 1: is maybe two of the most diverse microcosms in America.

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Speaker 1: And typically those careers end in your twenties and thirties

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Speaker 1: and you have that feeling like, oh man, I'll never

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Speaker 1: be great again. The reality is like this time more

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Speaker 1: than ever, we need you. We need leaders like that.

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Speaker 1: We need the veteran community in the athlete community to

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Speaker 1: continue to step up and be a part of this

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Speaker 1: change and encourage people to do those things I just

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Speaker 1: spoke of. You can encourage people to just listen, just

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Speaker 1: take a moment and listen as to why and have

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Speaker 1: a civil conversation about it. And then like, let's just

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01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:06,480
Speaker 1: like Collins and it's Kaepernick and I did four years ago.

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Speaker 1: Let's find a way together to maybe do something a

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Speaker 1: little bit different or innovative and change things for the

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Speaker 1: better together. Like that's what we have to do instead

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01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 1: of just you know, digging in and proving your point

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Speaker 1: and making everything about being right or being wrong. I

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Speaker 1: get it. We're a winning society, Like we want to win.

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Speaker 1: That's what America is. You know, we are competitive, but

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01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 1: sometimes it doesn't really serve you, especially in these social issues.

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01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:37,280
Speaker 1: It doesn't serve you to just always dig in and

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01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:39,320
Speaker 1: want to prove your points and you know, have the

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Speaker 1: last word. Um, that's something we're obsessed with as a country.

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Speaker 1: And so that's what I want to be about, and

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Speaker 1: that's what I'm I'm trying to do and I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to learn and educate myself as well. There's still a

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Speaker 1: ton I don't know, and uh, you know, I'm becoming

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Speaker 1: more and more aware of UM, by listening to these

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Speaker 1: people that have you know, that have been speaking for

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Speaker 1: a long time and maybe I haven't been listening, is

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01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:06,800
Speaker 1: the best I can UM. But it's yeah, it's it's

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Speaker 1: it's it's a struggle for all of us. We all have,

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Speaker 1: you know, being having that humility to admit that you

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01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 1: don't have all the answers and that all those things

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01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:18,360
Speaker 1: you feel are feelings are not necessarily facts. That's tough

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01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:20,840
Speaker 1: stuff to do. And so we've just all got to

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Speaker 1: be a better do a better job of that. And

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Speaker 1: you know, I'll start with myself first always when it

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Speaker 1: comes to that. I'm very critical of people, but I'm

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01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:30,120
Speaker 1: critical of myself too, and uh and and you know,

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Speaker 1: and that's it. So it's just making sure people understand,

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Speaker 1: continually understand the narrative as to why this all started, UM,

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Speaker 1: and that the you know, slavery was abolished one hundred

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Speaker 1: and fifty years ago or so, UM, but it's still um.

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Speaker 1: Racism still exists, inequalities still exists in this country. There's

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Speaker 1: still runoff from that. You know, I'm still a rights

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Speaker 1: movement happens fifty years ago, but it's still it's still

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Speaker 1: not perfect. It's it's things have yes, improved, I think

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01:08:58,080 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 1: a lot in our country, but we have a ton

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01:08:59,920 --> 01:09:02,439
Speaker 1: of hurdles in front of us still, and we've got

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01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 1: to keep porking toys that we can't just be okay

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Speaker 1: with good enough now. It's just not very American in

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Speaker 1: my opinion. Nate, thanks very much for your time, for

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Speaker 1: your insight, and most importantly for your service. We appreciate

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Speaker 1: you joining us today, of course, Thank you guys. Are

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Speaker 1: you safe out there and be healthy? All right? That's

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Speaker 1: Nate Boyer, former NFL long snapper for the Seattle Seahawks,

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Speaker 1: six year Army green Beret, multiple tours in Iraq and Afghanistan,

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01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:31,800
Speaker 1: and was instrumental in suggesting to Colin Kaepernick that his

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01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:35,200
Speaker 1: form of peaceful protest back in twenty sixteen should be

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01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 1: him kneeling during the anthem instead of sitting on the bench,

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01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:40,639
Speaker 1: which is what he initially did at the very start

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Speaker 1: of his effort to draw awareness to social injustice and

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Speaker 1: racial inequality. So interesting conversation there with Nate, and we

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01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 1: can talk about that more on the other side, although

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Speaker 1: we do have the fan mail bag where Maddie and

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Speaker 1: I are happy to answer or any in all questions

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01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:01,600
Speaker 1: you may have on the Bills, where they're headed this

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01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:05,519
Speaker 1: offseason and training camp, and the prospects for the twenty

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01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:08,639
Speaker 1: twenty season position battles, how things may shave up shape

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01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:10,760
Speaker 1: up on either side of the ball. We're ready to

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01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:13,240
Speaker 1: take on all comers, so be sure to send those

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Speaker 1: into us either at one Bills Live on Twitter at

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown Bills or at mad Glab. We're ready to

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Speaker 1: answer those and we'll do that after this break. This

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Speaker 1: is One Bills Live presented by collid to Health on

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. First Brown Mattie Clab with you here

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Speaker 1: on a Friday edition of One Bills Live presented by

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Speaker 1: Coalid to Health, And as promised, it is time for

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Speaker 1: the one Bills Live mailback, where you send us questions

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01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:47,960
Speaker 1: about the Bills and we do our best to answer them.

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Speaker 1: And right off the bat, Maddie, we've got an enticing

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Speaker 1: one here and one that I know Leslie Frazier was

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Speaker 1: speaking volumes about the other week when he was on

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Speaker 1: with the media on a zoom call. So it's from

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Speaker 1: Judge math As he says, could you see Tremaine Edmonds

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Speaker 1: taking a third year leap similar to Trey White? And

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01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:10,439
Speaker 1: becoming a viable defensive Player of the Year candidate. Last

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01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:13,640
Speaker 1: pure linebacker to win it was Keekley with McDermott as

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Speaker 1: his defensive coordinator in twenty thirteen. What do you say

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Speaker 1: to that. I like that. Judge Mathis did his research

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Speaker 1: with Keikley and McDermott being together in twenty thirteen. Nice

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Speaker 1: little anecdote there. I think Tremaine's gonna make a leap

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Speaker 1: in year three. I think from what Leslie Fraser has

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Speaker 1: said and how highly he has spoken of Tremaine, I

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Speaker 1: think he should take a leap in his third year.

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Speaker 1: The only thing that maybe is a little bit questionable

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01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:49,120
Speaker 1: about this is and I know they play a lot

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01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:54,320
Speaker 1: of times it's just two linebacker sets, but Lorenzo Alexander

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01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 1: is no longer in the picture. So now when you

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01:11:57,080 --> 01:12:01,320
Speaker 1: play with three linebackers, you're adding a new player into

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01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:04,880
Speaker 1: that equation. Now Tremaine is the mic, so he is

1284
01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:08,760
Speaker 1: organizing the defense, and as new defensive players come in,

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01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:12,320
Speaker 1: he has to kind of be able to completely interact

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01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:14,400
Speaker 1: with them, have a good chemistry with them, have a

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01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:16,920
Speaker 1: good feel for them. And I wonder if that's going

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01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:19,640
Speaker 1: to look any different because of this virtual setting that

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01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:23,200
Speaker 1: we've all been in. Aj Klein is a new linebacker.

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01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:26,920
Speaker 1: He's probably going to be in that starting role for

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Speaker 1: that third linebacker spot. But what is that chemistry going

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01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:32,360
Speaker 1: to look like? I mean, Tremaine had a great year

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01:12:32,479 --> 01:12:35,000
Speaker 1: last year. He was up there in total tackles in

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01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:38,519
Speaker 1: the NFL. I want to see him take a leap

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01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:42,400
Speaker 1: next season this season, and I totally believe that he can.

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Speaker 1: What do you think, Yeah, this is how I kind

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01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:49,599
Speaker 1: of look at it. The first year he was treading water.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's as a twenty year old kid, he's

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01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:56,599
Speaker 1: entrusted with running the defense and in a system he's

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01:12:56,640 --> 01:12:59,760
Speaker 1: never executed before at a position he never really played before,

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01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:02,479
Speaker 1: because he played more of a strong side linebacker who

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01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:04,800
Speaker 1: would get up on the line and pass rushing situations

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01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:08,240
Speaker 1: and blitz as well. So the mic was completely new

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01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:11,439
Speaker 1: to him and he was going to have to execute

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01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:14,120
Speaker 1: at an NFL level. Oh and also, by the way, Tremaine,

1306
01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:16,800
Speaker 1: you gotta get everybody else lined up. So it was

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01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:20,719
Speaker 1: just a monumental ask for a twenty year old rookie

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01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:23,560
Speaker 1: to be telling thirty year old men what to do

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01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:26,959
Speaker 1: in the snap of a finger. As a quarterback's audibling

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01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:30,519
Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage. So, okay, he got through

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01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:34,439
Speaker 1: that first year. Last year, I think we saw more

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01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:39,560
Speaker 1: of Tremaine's natural instincts show up in games. And what

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01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:43,200
Speaker 1: I mean by that is he wasn't thinking so much

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01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 1: about the scheme and getting the other ten guys lined up.

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01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:51,240
Speaker 1: He had that down and knew it like the back

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01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 1: of his hand, and so what that allowed him to

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01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:58,200
Speaker 1: do was to take his freakish physical skill set and

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01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:00,680
Speaker 1: put it on display more off and that's why we

1319
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:05,040
Speaker 1: saw some of those plays that probably him and about

1320
01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:07,599
Speaker 1: half a dozen other humans can make at that position.

1321
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:11,519
Speaker 1: And that's why he went to the Pro Bowl because

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01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:14,640
Speaker 1: there were enough of those signs where other players in

1323
01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:16,920
Speaker 1: the league said, yeah, this kid's got it. I mean,

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01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:19,000
Speaker 1: he's going to be really good for a really long time.

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01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:23,040
Speaker 1: So my hope is that even with this truncated offseason,

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01:14:23,160 --> 01:14:25,040
Speaker 1: even with lack of time on the playing field, the

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01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:27,439
Speaker 1: fact that this is year three in this defensive system

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01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 1: for him, I think he'll be quick on the uptake

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01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:32,719
Speaker 1: when these guys get back to real football on a field,

1330
01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:37,599
Speaker 1: and he'll really be able to make a nice leap

1331
01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:42,560
Speaker 1: that vaults him into that elite middle linebacker category, so

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01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:47,080
Speaker 1: hopefully that does happen. Players say in year three, that's

1333
01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:49,479
Speaker 1: when the game really starts to slow down for you.

1334
01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:53,280
Speaker 1: I mean switching from strong side's to Mike in his

1335
01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:56,200
Speaker 1: first year in the league, and then in the second

1336
01:14:56,280 --> 01:14:58,640
Speaker 1: year learning how to call things out and kind of

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01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:02,760
Speaker 1: get a little bit comfortable with the fact that you're

1338
01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:05,240
Speaker 1: the captain of the defense. Than in year three, I

1339
01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 1: think he can really start to settle in and it

1340
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:10,640
Speaker 1: all slows down for you more to where it's just

1341
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:14,600
Speaker 1: you're reacting out of instincts. Yeah, and a seed just

1342
01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:17,880
Speaker 1: to plan here too. Aj Klein has played all three

1343
01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:22,240
Speaker 1: linebacker positions in this defense when he was at Carolina

1344
01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:26,000
Speaker 1: because he was largely a backup there and knowing how

1345
01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:28,559
Speaker 1: good Tremaine is as a pass rusher off the edge,

1346
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:30,160
Speaker 1: I think it's something they didn't want to add to

1347
01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:32,240
Speaker 1: his plate with all that he was responsible for as

1348
01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:35,400
Speaker 1: a young player. But now in year three, I wonder

1349
01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:39,280
Speaker 1: if the Bill's defensive coaches tinker a little bit this

1350
01:15:39,479 --> 01:15:43,160
Speaker 1: year and maybe put him in some of those pass

1351
01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:47,240
Speaker 1: rush packages closer to the line of scrimmage more often.

1352
01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:49,320
Speaker 1: There were times where he'd be lining up, you know,

1353
01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:51,479
Speaker 1: they have that double a gap blitz that they like

1354
01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:54,840
Speaker 1: to position Milano and Edmonds up at the line of

1355
01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:57,400
Speaker 1: scrimmage and then they'll either drop or they will rush

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01:15:57,520 --> 01:15:59,920
Speaker 1: based on the play call. I wonder if they put

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01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:02,200
Speaker 1: him out on the edge a little bit more and

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01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:06,000
Speaker 1: almost have him serve a similar role to that of

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01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:08,719
Speaker 1: Lorenzo Alexander when he was kind of in that pass

1360
01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:10,680
Speaker 1: rush package. I wonder if they do that and then

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01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:14,920
Speaker 1: put AJ Klein in his linebacker role and work it

1362
01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:17,719
Speaker 1: that way, knowing aj knows all three spots in this defense.

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01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:20,879
Speaker 1: That's what I would do if I knew that Tremaine

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01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:23,160
Speaker 1: had pass rushing ability, and I believe he does. He's

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01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:27,760
Speaker 1: so long, I know his length. If you have the

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01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:31,240
Speaker 1: ability to move AJ Klein in that middle linebacker spot

1367
01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:34,320
Speaker 1: at times, you should totally use Tremaine on the outside

1368
01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:37,960
Speaker 1: because his length, his quickness as a linebacker, that is

1369
01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:42,000
Speaker 1: such a strength and an advantage to opposing going up

1370
01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:45,880
Speaker 1: with supposing offenses, because I'm just picturing Jerry Hughes with

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01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:48,280
Speaker 1: Tremaine on his outside shoulder, like if you're the left

1372
01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:50,760
Speaker 1: tackle over there, you're like a little help over here.

1373
01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:53,560
Speaker 1: Plays Like, holy crap, what's going on somebody giving is

1374
01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:55,880
Speaker 1: the back ready to chip here we need? I just

1375
01:16:55,920 --> 01:16:57,560
Speaker 1: think it would present a whole host of problems or

1376
01:16:57,560 --> 01:16:59,920
Speaker 1: even on the other side next to Mario Addison. All right,

1377
01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:04,160
Speaker 1: number three on the mail bag here from Andrew, what

1378
01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:08,040
Speaker 1: are the expectations for Vashon Joseph? This is kind of

1379
01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:10,559
Speaker 1: a forgotten kid because you know he was injured all

1380
01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:13,479
Speaker 1: last year or on IR, does he push Klein or

1381
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:15,920
Speaker 1: Milano for a starting job or is he just a

1382
01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:19,720
Speaker 1: backup and a special teamer? Now, Maddie, I think you

1383
01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:22,200
Speaker 1: know as well as I do. There's a lot that's

1384
01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:26,439
Speaker 1: that's working against Vashan in this situation, right, Yeah, I

1385
01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:30,559
Speaker 1: think Vashan is somebody who's, like you said, was on IR.

1386
01:17:30,720 --> 01:17:34,120
Speaker 1: He's younger. We always heard good things about him, I

1387
01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:37,360
Speaker 1: mean last year, even though he was injured, we would

1388
01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:40,080
Speaker 1: hear his name sometimes and how good of a player

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01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:45,200
Speaker 1: he can be. But Milano and Tremaine are your guys,

1390
01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:48,040
Speaker 1: and you bring an aj Klein and just the experience

1391
01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:51,599
Speaker 1: that he has and what he's able to do, as

1392
01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:54,080
Speaker 1: well as how long he's been in the league. I

1393
01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:56,839
Speaker 1: think you look at aj Klein as as the viable

1394
01:17:57,000 --> 01:18:00,320
Speaker 1: next person and you just have to see what Sean

1395
01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:03,600
Speaker 1: can do in training camp and if he's able to

1396
01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:07,160
Speaker 1: stay healthy, I look at more of him as a

1397
01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:09,960
Speaker 1: backup and a special team or at least for now,

1398
01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:13,240
Speaker 1: and then who knows what can have midseason. I mean,

1399
01:18:13,320 --> 01:18:17,360
Speaker 1: guys will get a couple reps in at linebacker, you know,

1400
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:20,479
Speaker 1: every game. So will he make the most of those

1401
01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:24,880
Speaker 1: reps to be determined right I unfortunately think for Vashon

1402
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:27,760
Speaker 1: Joseph there's a lot working against him here. Number One,

1403
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:30,720
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, you have two entrenched starters who play

1404
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:33,280
Speaker 1: the majority of the snaps in Milano and Edmonds. Then

1405
01:18:33,360 --> 01:18:36,080
Speaker 1: you have a veteran Incline who knows this defense already,

1406
01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:38,679
Speaker 1: has played all three positions across the board in this scheme,

1407
01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:42,960
Speaker 1: and his skill set is completely familiar to the coaching

1408
01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:47,000
Speaker 1: staff because Sean McDermott had him in Carolina, So that's

1409
01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:49,880
Speaker 1: working against him. Then you also roll in the fact

1410
01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:52,960
Speaker 1: that Corey Thompson, who is still on this roster and

1411
01:18:53,160 --> 01:18:57,320
Speaker 1: basically served as the fourth linebacker last year behind Lorenzo

1412
01:18:57,400 --> 01:19:00,560
Speaker 1: Tremaine and Milano you liked. I think that in the

1413
01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:04,400
Speaker 1: pecking order there's another guy that's ahead of Vashon Joseph,

1414
01:19:04,439 --> 01:19:07,320
Speaker 1: who has not played it down in the NFL. Then

1415
01:19:07,439 --> 01:19:11,479
Speaker 1: you roll in an offseason with no reps, let alone

1416
01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:14,519
Speaker 1: no practices in which to prove yourself and say, hey,

1417
01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:16,720
Speaker 1: take a look at me, because this is what I

1418
01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:19,920
Speaker 1: bring to the table. I think all of those things

1419
01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:24,960
Speaker 1: damage Vashon Joseph's chances of really making an impact and saying, hey,

1420
01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:28,600
Speaker 1: I should be considered for a top six role. And

1421
01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:32,840
Speaker 1: we can't forget too Maddie Tyler. Manakavich, who is a linebacker,

1422
01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:36,240
Speaker 1: was signed with the express purpose of being a leader

1423
01:19:36,320 --> 01:19:38,240
Speaker 1: on special team, So you would tend to think that

1424
01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:42,920
Speaker 1: his roster spot is relatively secure unless he falls completely

1425
01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:44,559
Speaker 1: on his face. And I don't think anybody of us

1426
01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:48,640
Speaker 1: any of us anticipate that. So backup special teamer I

1427
01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:51,840
Speaker 1: think would be a good outcome for Vashon Joseph. I

1428
01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:54,640
Speaker 1: think he's quite frankly going to be fighting for a

1429
01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:58,160
Speaker 1: roster spot. He may be a practice squad guy when

1430
01:19:58,200 --> 01:20:00,400
Speaker 1: all is said and done, based on the depth that

1431
01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:05,720
Speaker 1: the Bills now suddenly have at that position. Yeah, a

1432
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:09,000
Speaker 1: lot of these fringe players. You're doing what you can

1433
01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:12,559
Speaker 1: on defense or in your position. Once training camp starts,

1434
01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:15,400
Speaker 1: but you're making the roster based on your special teams.

1435
01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:18,320
Speaker 1: Play time for one more here, Maddie from todd What

1436
01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:20,880
Speaker 1: does he? What does he have for us? Todds says,

1437
01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:24,720
Speaker 1: should the Bills sign former Saints guard Larry Warford and

1438
01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:28,640
Speaker 1: make Feliciano the backup guard or center? What are you

1439
01:20:28,720 --> 01:20:34,000
Speaker 1: thinking here, Brownie? Yeah, the Bills have been very active

1440
01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:37,400
Speaker 1: in signing offensive lineman. They just haven't been necessarily a

1441
01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:41,120
Speaker 1: ton of big names. Daryl Williams obviously is the biggest

1442
01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:43,960
Speaker 1: name that they signed in free agency. The guard slash

1443
01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:46,639
Speaker 1: tackle who I think has the best chance to push

1444
01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:49,439
Speaker 1: for a starting role with one of those two guards,

1445
01:20:49,479 --> 01:20:51,960
Speaker 1: Feliciano or Spain. He'll be pushing those guys whether he

1446
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:56,240
Speaker 1: can unseat him as another story. And they signed Evan Bam,

1447
01:20:56,880 --> 01:21:00,320
Speaker 1: who's another center slash guard. They still have spent along

1448
01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:03,040
Speaker 1: another center slash guard. I'm not going to deny that

1449
01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:05,800
Speaker 1: Larry Warford would probably be an upgrade over a couple

1450
01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:08,120
Speaker 1: of those guys, but I think he's a guy that

1451
01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:13,240
Speaker 1: would be expecting to start. And I really think the

1452
01:21:13,360 --> 01:21:15,720
Speaker 1: cupboard's kind of full here. I think the Bills are

1453
01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:18,400
Speaker 1: pretty happy with what they're going to be going to

1454
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:22,040
Speaker 1: camp with across the board on the offensive line because

1455
01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:24,360
Speaker 1: they're too deep. Looks pretty good right now. And I

1456
01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:27,000
Speaker 1: know Feliciano is entering the last year of his contract,

1457
01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:30,720
Speaker 1: but I think he's a guy who Bobby Johnson likes

1458
01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:33,640
Speaker 1: a lot. They both worked together out in Oakland when

1459
01:21:33,720 --> 01:21:36,720
Speaker 1: Feliciano was there, and I believe Bobby Johnson was the

1460
01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:39,200
Speaker 1: tight ends coach or assistant old line coach, so they

1461
01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:42,200
Speaker 1: have a history together too, So I think he wholeheartedly

1462
01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:45,160
Speaker 1: believes in Feliciano as a player. And I think this

1463
01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:47,080
Speaker 1: late in the game, I can't see them going after

1464
01:21:47,240 --> 01:21:49,640
Speaker 1: Larry Warford, although he's still a very capable player in

1465
01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:52,960
Speaker 1: this league. Yeah, I'd have to agree that that room

1466
01:21:53,120 --> 01:21:55,719
Speaker 1: is a little bit too full right now for another

1467
01:21:55,840 --> 01:21:59,439
Speaker 1: offensive lineman. And I don't look at offensive line at

1468
01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:02,040
Speaker 1: all as a priority of things you need to add

1469
01:22:02,120 --> 01:22:04,800
Speaker 1: to right now heading into training camp. I think they're

1470
01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:07,719
Speaker 1: they're pre set at that position, and they did add

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01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:11,200
Speaker 1: Evan Bay and Daryl Williams. I think they're they're good

1472
01:22:11,240 --> 01:22:13,800
Speaker 1: to go for now. Yeah, no question. All right, Well

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Speaker 1: that is the one Bills Live mailbag. Thanks to everybody

1474
01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:19,000
Speaker 1: for sending in your questions. If you didn't get yours

1475
01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:21,360
Speaker 1: answered this week, send them in next week. We'll try

1476
01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:23,920
Speaker 1: to get you guys covered. Certainly by the time we

1477
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:25,559
Speaker 1: get to training camp, we hope to have all your

1478
01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:28,240
Speaker 1: questions answered and that should serve as a reminder too

1479
01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:30,840
Speaker 1: that coming up in the not too distant future on

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01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:34,080
Speaker 1: Buffalo bills dot com, we'll be having the camp countdown.

1481
01:22:34,240 --> 01:22:36,800
Speaker 1: Hard to believe that we're closing in on a month

1482
01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:39,479
Speaker 1: from training camp, but we are rapidly approaching that date.

1483
01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:43,160
Speaker 1: So our camp countdown will be beginning early next month,

1484
01:22:43,240 --> 01:22:45,200
Speaker 1: so keep an eye out on Buffalo bills dot com

1485
01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:46,880
Speaker 1: for that, where we answer any and all of the

1486
01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:50,360
Speaker 1: pressing questions facing the Bills as they head into twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: Time to take a break, but we'll be back on

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Speaker 1: the other side. We're going to hit the tweet sheet

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Speaker 1: again as we're asking you, has the power in professionals

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Speaker 1: sports shifted to the players in their respective platforms. We'll

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Speaker 1: get back to that on the other side. Chris Brown

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Speaker 1: Maddy Lab with you on One Bill's Live presented by

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Speaker 1: Kalid to Health. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio back that

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Live. First, Brown Maddy Lab with Mattie glab

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01:23:21,560 --> 01:23:24,800
Speaker 1: with you. Sorry Maddy, a little tongue tie here coming

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Speaker 1: out of the break, Gonna stop at nachos between here.

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Speaker 1: This is a tough show to do twelve to three, Mattie.

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01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:33,599
Speaker 1: I'm usually starving about halfway through this show, and then

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01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:36,200
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to sneak little snacks in these breaks here.

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Speaker 1: It's this is a challenge. It is not easy. I

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01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:43,240
Speaker 1: completely agree. Usually I just don't eat lunch and then

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01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:46,960
Speaker 1: we're done at three, and then I'm like hungry and

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01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:49,200
Speaker 1: I'm in a mood, and I'm like, I gotta do

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01:23:49,320 --> 01:23:50,960
Speaker 1: more work. I don't have time to eat lunch. And

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01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:52,960
Speaker 1: then it's just like, oh, I'll just eat an early dinner.

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01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:55,599
Speaker 1: But I made a protein shake today, So I'm very

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01:23:55,680 --> 01:23:58,320
Speaker 1: proud of myself that I've been able to sip on

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01:23:58,520 --> 01:24:01,519
Speaker 1: something in between breaks. That's probably the way I've got

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01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:04,040
Speaker 1: to go. Otherwise, Jay's got to get us a toothpick sponsor,

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01:24:04,120 --> 01:24:05,920
Speaker 1: so I'm ready when we come out of the breaks here.

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Life presented by Collide to Health and we

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01:24:10,280 --> 01:24:14,160
Speaker 1: wanted to revisit the Twitter poll which pose the question

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01:24:14,240 --> 01:24:18,320
Speaker 1: has the balance of power shifted in professional sports? And

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01:24:18,600 --> 01:24:21,400
Speaker 1: what we're getting at there is it just seems, with

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01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:24,640
Speaker 1: the way things are going, with the racial inequality and

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01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:28,240
Speaker 1: social injustices that are being brought to light by players,

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01:24:28,960 --> 01:24:32,080
Speaker 1: that they're exercising the strength of their platforms more than

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01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:36,519
Speaker 1: ever before. So among the choices when we ask, as

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01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:40,160
Speaker 1: the balance of power shifted, A, Yes this time things

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01:24:40,200 --> 01:24:43,040
Speaker 1: are different. B. Yes, but it will be temporary. See

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01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:46,280
Speaker 1: not yet. I'll believe it when I see it. So

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01:24:47,320 --> 01:24:49,479
Speaker 1: right now in the lead is still not yet. I'll

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01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:51,880
Speaker 1: believe it when I see it. With almost forty five

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01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:56,280
Speaker 1: percent of the vote, Yes this time things are different,

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01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:59,479
Speaker 1: about thirty percent, so it's a tight race right now.

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01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:02,760
Speaker 1: Because yes, but it will be temporary is twenty five

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01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:05,680
Speaker 1: point seven percent, So a fairly balanced poll, which we

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01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:08,360
Speaker 1: don't see all that often. And I think it's rooted

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01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:10,840
Speaker 1: in the fact that we're still in the very early

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01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:17,040
Speaker 1: stages of this movement here, and because of that, I

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01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:20,439
Speaker 1: think there is some uncertainty as to just what we

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01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:25,519
Speaker 1: are seeing from this country at large and eventually what

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01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:28,200
Speaker 1: we're going to see from our elected officials who can

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01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:33,000
Speaker 1: enact the changes that people are demanding. Now. But let's

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01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:35,240
Speaker 1: go to the tweet sheet I think we had one

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01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:39,160
Speaker 1: from Tiffany, right, Maddie. So why don't you read Tiffany's

1537
01:25:40,200 --> 01:25:43,559
Speaker 1: comment here? So Tiffany says, in my opinion, if Colin

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01:25:43,680 --> 01:25:47,080
Speaker 1: Kaepernick gets a legitimate shot at a roster spot, the

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01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:50,439
Speaker 1: shift of power favors the players. I'm not sure if

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01:25:50,479 --> 01:25:52,559
Speaker 1: he wants to be a player again, but only time

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01:25:52,600 --> 01:25:56,320
Speaker 1: will tell. Hopefully both the players and owners work together

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01:25:56,479 --> 01:26:01,640
Speaker 1: to better the league for everyone involved, fans include. Yeah, so,

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01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:06,920
Speaker 1: there were some rumblings that an NFL club contacted Pete

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01:26:07,040 --> 01:26:12,760
Speaker 1: Carroll about demonstrating an interest in having Colin Kaepernick on

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01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:18,880
Speaker 1: their roster. The team was obviously unnamed, and it's going

1546
01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:21,720
Speaker 1: to be interesting to see where this goes. I don't

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01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:24,120
Speaker 1: think there's any question in anybody's mind who knows an

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01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:27,599
Speaker 1: ounce about football that Colin Kaepernick is certainly a top

1549
01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:31,320
Speaker 1: thirty two quarterback in this league and has essentially been

1550
01:26:31,960 --> 01:26:34,080
Speaker 1: and I hate to even use this term, but blackballed

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01:26:34,120 --> 01:26:37,320
Speaker 1: from the league for his protesting because it was evident

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01:26:37,439 --> 01:26:41,440
Speaker 1: that the majority of owners, if not all of them, completely,

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01:26:42,280 --> 01:26:46,360
Speaker 1: did not want to undertake the media firestorm that would

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01:26:46,439 --> 01:26:49,479
Speaker 1: ensue if they added Colin Kaepernick to their roster. Even

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01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:53,519
Speaker 1: if they made the product on the field better because

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01:26:53,560 --> 01:26:56,519
Speaker 1: of all that came with him. So is that a

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01:26:56,560 --> 01:27:01,840
Speaker 1: little shortsighted? Probably? Is the viewpoint different now? Is it

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01:27:01,960 --> 01:27:04,839
Speaker 1: viewed through a different lens now? Because of what's happening

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01:27:05,479 --> 01:27:08,280
Speaker 1: in our streets over the last two weeks and the

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01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:11,559
Speaker 1: demands for change and the different perspective that I think

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01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:13,400
Speaker 1: a lot of people have come around to having. With

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01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:18,840
Speaker 1: regard to Kaepernick's protest specifically, I'm not convinced he's going

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01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:21,519
Speaker 1: to get a legitimate shot at a roster this year.

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01:27:21,720 --> 01:27:24,040
Speaker 1: I think it might take even more time, or maybe

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01:27:24,080 --> 01:27:27,200
Speaker 1: he's a midseason edition. If things continue to move in

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01:27:27,240 --> 01:27:30,360
Speaker 1: the direction they're moving, it would be nice if the

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01:27:30,439 --> 01:27:32,920
Speaker 1: players and owners can work together instead of the players

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01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:36,639
Speaker 1: solely using their platform to put pressure on the league, which,

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01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:41,120
Speaker 1: as we've seen, has already moved them to action. Yeah.

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01:27:41,200 --> 01:27:45,800
Speaker 1: I think perspective obviously has changed in the last few years,

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01:27:45,920 --> 01:27:49,560
Speaker 1: and hopefully Colin, if he wants to play in the

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01:27:49,640 --> 01:27:53,040
Speaker 1: league again, gets another shot because he is so deserving

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01:27:53,360 --> 01:27:55,200
Speaker 1: of being in the NFL. I mean, you look at

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01:27:55,360 --> 01:27:59,320
Speaker 1: these backup quarterbacks, even starting quarterbacks, and Colin has a

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01:27:59,439 --> 01:28:02,640
Speaker 1: place totally with what he's been able to do on

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01:28:02,800 --> 01:28:06,960
Speaker 1: the field, and it's sad that off the field three

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01:28:07,080 --> 01:28:11,120
Speaker 1: years ago he was not necessarily kicked out of the league,

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01:28:11,160 --> 01:28:14,000
Speaker 1: but nobody, nobody wanted him in the league because of

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01:28:14,080 --> 01:28:16,920
Speaker 1: what he's doing. And it's unfortunate that it took a

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01:28:17,040 --> 01:28:23,280
Speaker 1: few years of people still getting killed by racism that

1581
01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:26,920
Speaker 1: now we're all open to it, and now maybe owners

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01:28:27,000 --> 01:28:29,200
Speaker 1: are now open to it more than they have been

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01:28:29,280 --> 01:28:32,080
Speaker 1: in the past. But if he wants to still be

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01:28:32,200 --> 01:28:35,400
Speaker 1: in the league, he definitely deserves a shot, because I

1585
01:28:35,520 --> 01:28:37,759
Speaker 1: think he could make this league a lot more interesting

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01:28:38,080 --> 01:28:40,479
Speaker 1: in what he's able to do on the field. I

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01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:42,280
Speaker 1: want to read these last two in a row on

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01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:44,320
Speaker 1: the tweetcheek because they are strong takes and we are

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01:28:44,439 --> 01:28:46,519
Speaker 1: up against the break. But from Brian, I'll believe it

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01:28:46,600 --> 01:28:49,439
Speaker 1: when the entire team kneels during the anthem, ownership joins

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01:28:49,479 --> 01:28:52,479
Speaker 1: the players, coaches and staff and doing so, and fans

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01:28:52,600 --> 01:28:55,400
Speaker 1: join in the protest in mass. The momentum is there,

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01:28:55,479 --> 01:28:58,160
Speaker 1: but it needs more than just gravity to keep this

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01:28:58,320 --> 01:29:00,920
Speaker 1: ball rolling. And from hugey Bear, I say, if the

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01:29:01,000 --> 01:29:04,280
Speaker 1: players use their power of togetherness, things can change. That

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01:29:04,439 --> 01:29:07,080
Speaker 1: video change the way the commission had to react. That

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01:29:07,280 --> 01:29:10,240
Speaker 1: being said, the NFL still owes Colin an apology as well,

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01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:13,560
Speaker 1: because police brutality is what he was kneeling for. So

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01:29:13,680 --> 01:29:16,920
Speaker 1: some strong takes from some of our listeners and both

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01:29:17,120 --> 01:29:20,240
Speaker 1: kind of in the same vein there in talking about

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01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:24,560
Speaker 1: protest and Colin Kaepernick specifically, I'm just curious because I

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01:29:24,680 --> 01:29:29,320
Speaker 1: believe that the peaceful protest will get creative. Commissioner Goodell

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01:29:29,479 --> 01:29:32,519
Speaker 1: gave the players the green light to peacefully protest. I

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01:29:32,640 --> 01:29:34,920
Speaker 1: think it goes beyond just kneeling now at the anthem.

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01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:37,759
Speaker 1: I think there will be other forms of peaceful protest

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01:29:37,880 --> 01:29:39,800
Speaker 1: by the players, and I anticipate they're going to get

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01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:42,200
Speaker 1: pretty creative with this, whether it's on the playing field,

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01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:45,439
Speaker 1: off the playing field, during the practice week, during an

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01:29:45,520 --> 01:29:49,200
Speaker 1: interview with a media outlet, whatever it is. I think

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01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:53,560
Speaker 1: this is going to branch off from just kneeling for

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01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:55,880
Speaker 1: the anthem. All right, we've got to take a break.

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01:29:56,400 --> 01:29:58,960
Speaker 1: But coming up at the top of the hour, one

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01:29:59,080 --> 01:30:02,800
Speaker 1: Shield Kapati, the NFL writer for The Athletic who had

1614
01:30:02,840 --> 01:30:05,519
Speaker 1: a great rite up on ten things from a football

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01:30:05,600 --> 01:30:08,519
Speaker 1: nerds guy to the twenty twenty Buffalo Bills. You want

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01:30:08,560 --> 01:30:11,280
Speaker 1: to dive into some hardcore numbers. Join us on the

1617
01:30:11,360 --> 01:30:14,360
Speaker 1: other side as Maddie and I quiz him on some

1618
01:30:14,560 --> 01:30:16,760
Speaker 1: of the advanced metrics that he put out there for

1619
01:30:16,840 --> 01:30:20,000
Speaker 1: everyone to digest. On the twenty twenty outlook for the

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01:30:20,080 --> 01:30:22,360
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills that's coming up. On the other side. It's

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Speaker 1: One Bills Live, presented by Kalida Health. This is Buffalo

1622
01:30:25,640 --> 01:30:32,479
Speaker 1: Bills Radio. Oh a good time, old watch Steve Lasper

1623
01:30:33,800 --> 01:30:45,240
Speaker 1: go to the end, Fustius down to touch Downsnoo time.

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01:30:50,720 --> 01:30:53,200
Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bills Live. Chris Brown and Maddie

1625
01:30:53,200 --> 01:30:56,200
Speaker 1: glab with you here on a Friday hour. Number three

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01:30:56,400 --> 01:30:59,599
Speaker 1: getting underway. Will have NFL True Falls at the bottom

1627
01:30:59,640 --> 01:31:01,880
Speaker 1: of the hour, along with what have we learned? But

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01:31:02,080 --> 01:31:05,600
Speaker 1: right now we're joined on the line by one Shield Kapati,

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01:31:05,640 --> 01:31:08,599
Speaker 1: an NFL writer for the Athletic former Eagles and Seahawks

1630
01:31:09,080 --> 01:31:12,600
Speaker 1: beat reporter. But he had an in depth and that

1631
01:31:12,760 --> 01:31:15,320
Speaker 1: might be an understatement, an in depth right up on

1632
01:31:15,400 --> 01:31:17,880
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty Buffalo Bills. Ten things from a Football

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01:31:17,960 --> 01:31:20,519
Speaker 1: nerds guide to the twenty twenty Bills. Shield, thanks for

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01:31:20,680 --> 01:31:24,120
Speaker 1: joining us. How you doing doing? Hell, guys, how you doing?

1635
01:31:25,240 --> 01:31:27,360
Speaker 1: We're doing okay, We're always trying to check in with

1636
01:31:27,400 --> 01:31:32,960
Speaker 1: everybody to make sure everybody's doing okay during this pandemic here. Yeah, yeah,

1637
01:31:33,080 --> 01:31:37,000
Speaker 1: hanging in there like everybody else and trying to stay positive.

1638
01:31:37,080 --> 01:31:39,679
Speaker 1: And so you know, it's another week in the book

1639
01:31:39,720 --> 01:31:44,280
Speaker 1: and hopefully we're moving in the right direction. So obviously

1640
01:31:44,600 --> 01:31:46,360
Speaker 1: we all have a little more time on our hands.

1641
01:31:46,400 --> 01:31:49,000
Speaker 1: And boy did you crunch some numbers here. When it

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01:31:49,120 --> 01:31:52,280
Speaker 1: came to the Bills and their outlooked for twenty twenty,

1643
01:31:52,640 --> 01:31:56,120
Speaker 1: it was kind of a review of what went well

1644
01:31:56,280 --> 01:31:59,760
Speaker 1: and what might need some improvements going into twenty twenty

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01:32:00,320 --> 01:32:04,160
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. Now, it certainly wasn't surprising to anybody that

1646
01:32:04,200 --> 01:32:08,360
Speaker 1: watched enough Bills games to know that eleven personnel for

1647
01:32:08,479 --> 01:32:11,120
Speaker 1: the layman, you know, one tight end, one back, three

1648
01:32:11,240 --> 01:32:14,479
Speaker 1: receivers was their most popular formation. And they're not the

1649
01:32:14,560 --> 01:32:16,880
Speaker 1: only team in the league doing that. You know, it's

1650
01:32:16,880 --> 01:32:21,040
Speaker 1: a pretty popular formation across the league. But seventy percent

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01:32:21,120 --> 01:32:23,400
Speaker 1: of the time. I don't know if you took a

1652
01:32:23,520 --> 01:32:26,640
Speaker 1: look across the league, but but how where does that

1653
01:32:26,840 --> 01:32:30,840
Speaker 1: rank in terms of across the league? Is that pretty

1654
01:32:30,960 --> 01:32:34,000
Speaker 1: high number, an average number, a low number? Where did

1655
01:32:34,040 --> 01:32:36,280
Speaker 1: you kind of come down on that? Yeah, I would

1656
01:32:36,280 --> 01:32:39,400
Speaker 1: say that's probably average to a little bit above average.

1657
01:32:39,439 --> 01:32:41,640
Speaker 1: You have a lot of teams who'd like to have

1658
01:32:41,760 --> 01:32:44,560
Speaker 1: started moving towards more two tight ends catch and so

1659
01:32:45,600 --> 01:32:48,639
Speaker 1: you've seen that certainly with some teams around the league,

1660
01:32:48,640 --> 01:32:50,519
Speaker 1: and any of some teams who just stay in that

1661
01:32:51,120 --> 01:32:54,439
Speaker 1: three wide receiver the eleven personnel look on you know,

1662
01:32:54,560 --> 01:32:58,000
Speaker 1: almost every down. A team like the Los Angeles Rams there,

1663
01:32:58,120 --> 01:33:00,320
Speaker 1: especially when they went to the Super Bowl, they were

1664
01:33:00,400 --> 01:33:03,280
Speaker 1: like that. So obviously with the Bills, this becomes very

1665
01:33:03,360 --> 01:33:07,320
Speaker 1: interesting going into this year with the addition of Stefan Diggs.

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01:33:07,360 --> 01:33:10,280
Speaker 1: I mean, you've got three wide receivers there, a very

1667
01:33:10,520 --> 01:33:13,639
Speaker 1: strong wide receiver group, so I wouldn't be surprised today,

1668
01:33:13,680 --> 01:33:15,519
Speaker 1: you know, see that number bump up a little bit

1669
01:33:16,160 --> 01:33:20,320
Speaker 1: and create some matchups against their ponent going through this

1670
01:33:20,800 --> 01:33:23,719
Speaker 1: mammoth article that you produced with a lot of great

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01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:27,559
Speaker 1: numbers to digest, and I'm going to reference this article

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01:33:27,680 --> 01:33:30,760
Speaker 1: a lot going forward. So thanks for writing this. I

1673
01:33:30,880 --> 01:33:33,840
Speaker 1: can't imagine how much time it took. But one thing

1674
01:33:33,920 --> 01:33:37,160
Speaker 1: that stood out to me was you had only eight

1675
01:33:37,280 --> 01:33:42,360
Speaker 1: teams were more pass heavy in situations described with the

1676
01:33:42,479 --> 01:33:45,000
Speaker 1: Bills being kind of at the at the top of

1677
01:33:45,080 --> 01:33:49,320
Speaker 1: the list right there being a pass heavy offense and

1678
01:33:49,520 --> 01:33:51,800
Speaker 1: how that worked out for Brian dave Ball. And you

1679
01:33:51,880 --> 01:33:54,840
Speaker 1: think about Josh Allen being a younger quarterback in and

1680
01:33:54,960 --> 01:33:57,600
Speaker 1: one thing he needs to improve on next year is

1681
01:33:57,920 --> 01:34:01,000
Speaker 1: his passing game and his complete and percentage. But to

1682
01:34:01,080 --> 01:34:04,000
Speaker 1: think that this team was was a past heavy offense

1683
01:34:04,080 --> 01:34:06,759
Speaker 1: and the fact that it ended up working out well

1684
01:34:07,640 --> 01:34:12,120
Speaker 1: on early down specifically passing the ball ranking eleventh in

1685
01:34:12,360 --> 01:34:17,360
Speaker 1: EPA per play. That's expected points added per play. How

1686
01:34:17,439 --> 01:34:20,840
Speaker 1: did you find that stat and was there anything within

1687
01:34:21,000 --> 01:34:23,439
Speaker 1: that that kind of jumped out to you just with

1688
01:34:23,720 --> 01:34:27,679
Speaker 1: knowing Josh Allen and how he played last season. Yeah,

1689
01:34:27,720 --> 01:34:29,439
Speaker 1: I know when I when I go through all these

1690
01:34:29,479 --> 01:34:32,000
Speaker 1: teams and I'm done doing them for a thirty two

1691
01:34:32,080 --> 01:34:34,519
Speaker 1: teams And thanks for the kind word. I told people,

1692
01:34:34,560 --> 01:34:37,040
Speaker 1: either you're really gonna like these or they're gonna put

1693
01:34:37,080 --> 01:34:39,639
Speaker 1: you right to sleep. So if anybody has young children

1694
01:34:39,720 --> 01:34:41,840
Speaker 1: and needs to, you know, have in trouble getting them

1695
01:34:41,880 --> 01:34:45,240
Speaker 1: to bed, reading its hard might be a good move also,

1696
01:34:45,360 --> 01:34:47,479
Speaker 1: But you know what I like to do is sort

1697
01:34:47,520 --> 01:34:49,640
Speaker 1: of say, well this this play call, or what are

1698
01:34:49,920 --> 01:34:52,120
Speaker 1: some of their tendencies? And one way to look at that.

1699
01:34:52,320 --> 01:34:54,559
Speaker 1: You know, if you just look at well, how often

1700
01:34:54,600 --> 01:34:57,040
Speaker 1: do they pass, how often do they run? It really

1701
01:34:57,120 --> 01:34:59,479
Speaker 1: can be misleading because if you have a terrible team

1702
01:34:59,760 --> 01:35:02,240
Speaker 1: that always played from behind, well, they're going to throw

1703
01:35:02,320 --> 01:35:04,240
Speaker 1: the ball a lot because they have to, and that's

1704
01:35:04,280 --> 01:35:06,400
Speaker 1: really going to skew the number. So this is just

1705
01:35:06,600 --> 01:35:08,600
Speaker 1: one way to look at it. When you look at

1706
01:35:08,640 --> 01:35:11,200
Speaker 1: first and second down, you know, when the game is

1707
01:35:11,240 --> 01:35:14,320
Speaker 1: still in hand, when it's still competitive, it's not a blowout.

1708
01:35:14,520 --> 01:35:17,240
Speaker 1: In those situations, what does the play caller do? And

1709
01:35:17,600 --> 01:35:19,519
Speaker 1: you know, with the Bills, I was surprised to see that.

1710
01:35:19,680 --> 01:35:23,200
Speaker 1: You know, certainly, having watched them last year, I thought

1711
01:35:23,240 --> 01:35:25,200
Speaker 1: maybe they would be in the middle of the pack.

1712
01:35:25,280 --> 01:35:28,400
Speaker 1: They always seem to be a pretty balanced team last year,

1713
01:35:28,439 --> 01:35:31,040
Speaker 1: But they actually passed the ball more in those situations

1714
01:35:31,600 --> 01:35:33,960
Speaker 1: than I thought they would. But like I wrote there,

1715
01:35:34,040 --> 01:35:36,000
Speaker 1: it worked out really well. They were a very good

1716
01:35:36,080 --> 01:35:38,800
Speaker 1: team on first and second down last year. You know,

1717
01:35:38,880 --> 01:35:41,639
Speaker 1: whether that meant getting a first down before they even

1718
01:35:41,680 --> 01:35:44,400
Speaker 1: get the third down, whether it meant setting up good

1719
01:35:44,439 --> 01:35:46,839
Speaker 1: situations for Josh Allen and the rest of the offense

1720
01:35:47,120 --> 01:35:49,799
Speaker 1: on third down. So if that's something that I wouldn't

1721
01:35:50,160 --> 01:35:52,160
Speaker 1: expect them to change. I don't think that they should

1722
01:35:52,320 --> 01:35:54,960
Speaker 1: change going forward, and I thought it was a good

1723
01:35:55,040 --> 01:35:59,160
Speaker 1: job by Brian dave All the offensive coordinator. Another thing

1724
01:35:59,240 --> 01:36:02,880
Speaker 1: that isn't going to change going forward knowing the success

1725
01:36:03,080 --> 01:36:06,479
Speaker 1: rate that it had is design runs for Josh Allen

1726
01:36:06,560 --> 01:36:09,439
Speaker 1: And you know, you pointed out a number of metrics

1727
01:36:09,520 --> 01:36:13,640
Speaker 1: to you know, highlight that the fact that you know,

1728
01:36:13,800 --> 01:36:20,680
Speaker 1: his EPA was even better than Lamar Jackson for quarterbacks

1729
01:36:20,720 --> 01:36:23,320
Speaker 1: that had you know, seventy five carries last season or more.

1730
01:36:25,080 --> 01:36:27,840
Speaker 1: To me, I think it was evident to Bills fans

1731
01:36:27,960 --> 01:36:31,720
Speaker 1: that he is a weapon as a rusher, and I

1732
01:36:31,880 --> 01:36:34,320
Speaker 1: expect them to still have more design runs for him

1733
01:36:34,360 --> 01:36:37,360
Speaker 1: going forward. But do you think the addition of a

1734
01:36:37,439 --> 01:36:41,760
Speaker 1: true power runner like Zach Moss could slightly change the

1735
01:36:41,880 --> 01:36:44,680
Speaker 1: conversation on that a little bit knowing he can get

1736
01:36:44,800 --> 01:36:48,760
Speaker 1: tough yards. Yeah, that that's going to be interesting. But

1737
01:36:49,000 --> 01:36:51,720
Speaker 1: you know, like you said it, I think last year,

1738
01:36:51,760 --> 01:36:54,720
Speaker 1: obviously Lamar Jackson got all the hype and rightfully so.

1739
01:36:54,960 --> 01:36:56,599
Speaker 1: He was a great runner and if you look at

1740
01:36:56,640 --> 01:37:00,240
Speaker 1: it overall, Lamar Jackson had more explosive runs where the

1741
01:37:00,320 --> 01:37:03,519
Speaker 1: games of twenty yards where he's downfield, you know, spinning

1742
01:37:03,600 --> 01:37:06,120
Speaker 1: through defenders. But if you just look at it at

1743
01:37:06,240 --> 01:37:09,080
Speaker 1: you know, how likely was this run play gonna to

1744
01:37:09,200 --> 01:37:12,479
Speaker 1: be successful. No player in the NFL who had seventy

1745
01:37:12,520 --> 01:37:15,720
Speaker 1: five attempts or more out ranked Josh Allen there. I mean,

1746
01:37:15,800 --> 01:37:20,400
Speaker 1: he was just consistently picking up positive yards for the Bills.

1747
01:37:20,439 --> 01:37:22,840
Speaker 1: So I think they you know, they made a move

1748
01:37:22,880 --> 01:37:25,760
Speaker 1: picking up Zach Moss. Stevan Singletary is coming off a

1749
01:37:25,960 --> 01:37:28,080
Speaker 1: very good rookie year, and I think you're seeing these

1750
01:37:28,160 --> 01:37:31,280
Speaker 1: teams that sort of build the quarterback into the run game.

1751
01:37:31,960 --> 01:37:33,880
Speaker 1: They want to have sort of the stable of backs

1752
01:37:33,880 --> 01:37:36,200
Speaker 1: because they're gonna run the football, They're gonna be tough

1753
01:37:36,280 --> 01:37:39,240
Speaker 1: to defend. It's tough for opponents when most of the

1754
01:37:39,400 --> 01:37:41,720
Speaker 1: year you're trying to game plan for these teams that

1755
01:37:42,040 --> 01:37:43,760
Speaker 1: hand the ball off to their backs. Well, now you

1756
01:37:43,880 --> 01:37:46,120
Speaker 1: please the team like the Bills, where the Ravens and

1757
01:37:46,240 --> 01:37:49,080
Speaker 1: some others. Now it's a totally different week of game planning.

1758
01:37:49,160 --> 01:37:51,640
Speaker 1: And so yeah, I think it's gonna be fascinating to

1759
01:37:51,720 --> 01:37:54,720
Speaker 1: see how Moss factors in there. I know Frank Gore

1760
01:37:54,840 --> 01:37:57,719
Speaker 1: is sort of a beloved player, beloved player in the league,

1761
01:37:57,760 --> 01:37:59,960
Speaker 1: but really if you look at it, he'd really struggle

1762
01:38:00,640 --> 01:38:02,840
Speaker 1: last year, specifically the second half of the year, but

1763
01:38:02,920 --> 01:38:05,720
Speaker 1: even overall, he really brought their run game down. So

1764
01:38:06,280 --> 01:38:09,040
Speaker 1: I think with most and there getting skingle carry more carrious,

1765
01:38:09,280 --> 01:38:10,960
Speaker 1: I think their run game really could be one of

1766
01:38:11,000 --> 01:38:14,320
Speaker 1: the five or six best in the NFL. You looked

1767
01:38:14,360 --> 01:38:18,160
Speaker 1: into the type of pressure that Josh Allen faced all season,

1768
01:38:18,320 --> 01:38:23,080
Speaker 1: Man's zone eleven personnel twenty one twelve in pocket, out

1769
01:38:23,120 --> 01:38:28,000
Speaker 1: of pocket play action, how he operated out of those personnels,

1770
01:38:28,040 --> 01:38:31,840
Speaker 1: and what type of defenses he faced, and one stood

1771
01:38:31,880 --> 01:38:35,120
Speaker 1: out as being a struggle for Josh and that offense,

1772
01:38:35,200 --> 01:38:37,439
Speaker 1: and it was I think it was pretty easy to

1773
01:38:37,560 --> 01:38:39,880
Speaker 1: see that this is something that the offense struggled in

1774
01:38:39,960 --> 01:38:43,280
Speaker 1: and it was going up against Man. But I think

1775
01:38:43,360 --> 01:38:46,519
Speaker 1: this team has some optimism in twenty twenty, just with

1776
01:38:46,680 --> 01:38:48,680
Speaker 1: the chemistry that Josh is going to be able to

1777
01:38:48,760 --> 01:38:51,599
Speaker 1: have with players like Cole Beasley and John Brown going

1778
01:38:51,640 --> 01:38:55,160
Speaker 1: into the second year playing with those receivers together. But

1779
01:38:55,320 --> 01:39:01,639
Speaker 1: also Stefan Diggs is great against contested catches. So when

1780
01:39:01,800 --> 01:39:04,800
Speaker 1: talking about going up against Man, why do you think

1781
01:39:05,040 --> 01:39:08,720
Speaker 1: the Bills should have more optimism in twenty twenty having

1782
01:39:08,800 --> 01:39:11,800
Speaker 1: a little bit more success than last season, being ranked

1783
01:39:11,840 --> 01:39:16,240
Speaker 1: twenty seventh last season against man. Yeah, I really agree

1784
01:39:16,280 --> 01:39:19,599
Speaker 1: with what you said. They did struggle against man coverage,

1785
01:39:19,600 --> 01:39:22,960
Speaker 1: and specifically, I think that's important in the AFC because

1786
01:39:22,960 --> 01:39:24,479
Speaker 1: if you look at the teams you're gonna have to

1787
01:39:24,560 --> 01:39:26,959
Speaker 1: be that kind of makes a noise. In the playoffs,

1788
01:39:27,000 --> 01:39:29,400
Speaker 1: it's going to be the Ravens and the Patriots, and

1789
01:39:29,720 --> 01:39:32,639
Speaker 1: those are two teams that play a lot of man coverage.

1790
01:39:32,680 --> 01:39:34,720
Speaker 1: So you know a little bit, I think a lot

1791
01:39:34,760 --> 01:39:37,080
Speaker 1: of it really is. This is where Stefan Dix can

1792
01:39:37,120 --> 01:39:39,760
Speaker 1: have a huge impact on the Bills offense. I mean,

1793
01:39:39,880 --> 01:39:42,639
Speaker 1: he is so good in a number of ways against

1794
01:39:42,720 --> 01:39:45,840
Speaker 1: man coverage. He can separate, he's going to create base

1795
01:39:45,880 --> 01:39:49,360
Speaker 1: against opposing quarterbacks where you know, you mentioned those contested

1796
01:39:49,439 --> 01:39:51,439
Speaker 1: catches and that's strue. And then there's gonna be other

1797
01:39:51,520 --> 01:39:54,200
Speaker 1: situations where he's just gonna be open and he's gonna

1798
01:39:54,840 --> 01:39:57,040
Speaker 1: be one of the best route runners in the NFL

1799
01:39:57,160 --> 01:39:59,360
Speaker 1: until there's gonna be sort of you know, I wouldn't

1800
01:39:59,400 --> 01:40:01,479
Speaker 1: call it a march of error, but you know, not

1801
01:40:01,640 --> 01:40:04,160
Speaker 1: plays where he's sort of neat pinpoint accuracy, where he's

1802
01:40:04,200 --> 01:40:06,040
Speaker 1: got some space there. You got to put it in

1803
01:40:06,120 --> 01:40:08,200
Speaker 1: the right area and he can come down with it.

1804
01:40:08,360 --> 01:40:10,600
Speaker 1: So you look at that. I thought John Brown was

1805
01:40:10,640 --> 01:40:13,200
Speaker 1: one of the most underrated players in the NFL, certainly

1806
01:40:13,400 --> 01:40:16,120
Speaker 1: one of the most underrated receivers in the NFL. Last year.

1807
01:40:16,200 --> 01:40:19,280
Speaker 1: We know he can beat man coverage. Colt Beasley can

1808
01:40:19,360 --> 01:40:21,800
Speaker 1: do that in the slot, and then Dalston Knox, you know,

1809
01:40:21,920 --> 01:40:24,040
Speaker 1: I'm sure for Bill's fans, was sort of a frustrating

1810
01:40:24,080 --> 01:40:28,000
Speaker 1: player where a really fascinating guy who can make plays,

1811
01:40:28,080 --> 01:40:31,160
Speaker 1: but obviously had an issue with those drops last year.

1812
01:40:31,240 --> 01:40:33,760
Speaker 1: So that trends in the right direction. There really are

1813
01:40:33,800 --> 01:40:36,080
Speaker 1: a lot of pieces around Josh Allen to help him

1814
01:40:36,120 --> 01:40:40,040
Speaker 1: be better against man coverage. Talking to Shield Capatia, NFL

1815
01:40:40,120 --> 01:40:45,880
Speaker 1: writer for The Athletic who put together a comprehensive breakdown

1816
01:40:46,040 --> 01:40:48,559
Speaker 1: of the twenty twenty outlook for the Buffalo Bills based

1817
01:40:48,560 --> 01:40:51,320
Speaker 1: on their twenty nineteen performance. Ten Things from a Football

1818
01:40:51,360 --> 01:40:54,560
Speaker 1: Nerds Guide to the twenty twenty Buffalo Bills, and she

1819
01:40:54,640 --> 01:40:58,439
Speaker 1: will probably the most eye opening statistic, And it didn't

1820
01:40:58,439 --> 01:41:00,640
Speaker 1: really catch me by surprise because as I saw enough

1821
01:41:00,680 --> 01:41:03,560
Speaker 1: of these instances over the course of last season, but

1822
01:41:03,760 --> 01:41:08,200
Speaker 1: the disparity and the discrepancy was what really grabbed me.

1823
01:41:09,280 --> 01:41:13,360
Speaker 1: Josh Allen's completion percentage on downfield passes, which qualifies twenty

1824
01:41:13,439 --> 01:41:16,519
Speaker 1: yards or more, was just under twenty five percent in

1825
01:41:16,600 --> 01:41:19,640
Speaker 1: that rake, twenty fourth out of twenty five quarterbacks with

1826
01:41:19,680 --> 01:41:21,519
Speaker 1: at least forty attempts. As you point out in your

1827
01:41:21,560 --> 01:41:24,639
Speaker 1: write up, the number that grabbed me that you took

1828
01:41:24,680 --> 01:41:28,920
Speaker 1: from Sports Information Solutions, it charted Allen as being on

1829
01:41:29,240 --> 01:41:33,080
Speaker 1: target with better than forty two percent of those downfield attempts.

1830
01:41:33,520 --> 01:41:36,839
Speaker 1: So the discrepancy between the forty two percent of passes

1831
01:41:36,880 --> 01:41:40,759
Speaker 1: on target and twenty four percent that connected is almost

1832
01:41:40,800 --> 01:41:43,719
Speaker 1: eighteen percent. It was the fifth highest for any starter.

1833
01:41:44,439 --> 01:41:49,280
Speaker 1: So as much as Josh Allen gets knocked, it's kind

1834
01:41:49,320 --> 01:41:52,639
Speaker 1: of a little bit of a misleading narrative on him

1835
01:41:52,800 --> 01:41:55,600
Speaker 1: knowing that there were a whole bunch of other circumstances

1836
01:41:55,640 --> 01:41:59,560
Speaker 1: that contributed to his low percentage. Correct. Yeah, exactly. I

1837
01:41:59,680 --> 01:42:02,800
Speaker 1: mean that's what makes football such a challenging sport to

1838
01:42:02,880 --> 01:42:05,880
Speaker 1: analyze it. There's so many factors at play. It's not

1839
01:42:06,040 --> 01:42:08,320
Speaker 1: like baseball, where it's you know, the batter going up

1840
01:42:08,720 --> 01:42:10,880
Speaker 1: against the pitcher and you can basically say he's in

1841
01:42:11,000 --> 01:42:14,040
Speaker 1: control of what he's doing. I mean, in football it

1842
01:42:14,240 --> 01:42:16,599
Speaker 1: is totally different. And so this was just a way

1843
01:42:16,640 --> 01:42:19,120
Speaker 1: of looking at it and saying, well, we know Josh

1844
01:42:19,160 --> 01:42:22,720
Speaker 1: Allen's completion percentage on those deep throws was not good,

1845
01:42:22,840 --> 01:42:24,760
Speaker 1: and so why was that? And I think it's a

1846
01:42:24,840 --> 01:42:27,680
Speaker 1: number of factors. I think everyone would agree that his

1847
01:42:27,800 --> 01:42:30,840
Speaker 1: accuracy certainly needs to be better in that scenario where

1848
01:42:30,880 --> 01:42:32,640
Speaker 1: he needs to improve if the Bills are going to

1849
01:42:32,720 --> 01:42:35,360
Speaker 1: go far in the playoffs. But it's not just that,

1850
01:42:35,640 --> 01:42:37,760
Speaker 1: you know, there are other things. You know, when I

1851
01:42:37,880 --> 01:42:40,840
Speaker 1: found those numbers, and I brought up some clips on

1852
01:42:40,960 --> 01:42:44,320
Speaker 1: film some of those downfield throws and whether it's dropped

1853
01:42:44,360 --> 01:42:47,080
Speaker 1: by the receivers, whether it's them not getting their feet

1854
01:42:47,120 --> 01:42:49,360
Speaker 1: in bounds the other sideline, whether it's sort of a

1855
01:42:49,680 --> 01:42:51,840
Speaker 1: contested catch where the ball is in the right place

1856
01:42:51,920 --> 01:42:54,360
Speaker 1: but they left the defensive back knock it out. I mean,

1857
01:42:54,439 --> 01:42:56,960
Speaker 1: it really could be a number of different things, and

1858
01:42:57,040 --> 01:42:59,400
Speaker 1: the numbers reflect that it was a number of different things.

1859
01:42:59,479 --> 01:43:03,040
Speaker 1: It was not just Josh Allen's issue of accuracy, so

1860
01:43:03,439 --> 01:43:05,680
Speaker 1: he can be a little more on target. And then

1861
01:43:05,760 --> 01:43:08,080
Speaker 1: you have, you know, the receiving corps. I think they

1862
01:43:08,400 --> 01:43:11,200
Speaker 1: had a higher percentage of drops than any receiving corps

1863
01:43:11,439 --> 01:43:13,680
Speaker 1: in the NFL. So if that can trend in a

1864
01:43:13,760 --> 01:43:16,599
Speaker 1: better direction for them in twenty twenty, I think they

1865
01:43:16,680 --> 01:43:19,040
Speaker 1: have a chance to be a lot better with those

1866
01:43:19,120 --> 01:43:21,599
Speaker 1: downfield throws. And to me, that's really the key for them.

1867
01:43:21,680 --> 01:43:25,040
Speaker 1: You know, Josh Allens is never going to be Drew Brees.

1868
01:43:25,080 --> 01:43:27,240
Speaker 1: He's not going to be completing sixty eight sixty nine

1869
01:43:27,360 --> 01:43:29,960
Speaker 1: seventy percent of his passes, and I don't know that

1870
01:43:30,040 --> 01:43:31,760
Speaker 1: he needs to. I mean, if you have a guy

1871
01:43:32,000 --> 01:43:33,800
Speaker 1: who can really help you in the run game the

1872
01:43:33,880 --> 01:43:36,640
Speaker 1: way he does and sort of reach a certain benchmark

1873
01:43:36,720 --> 01:43:40,120
Speaker 1: in terms of his accuracy, specifically downfield, I think you

1874
01:43:40,160 --> 01:43:42,160
Speaker 1: can win a lot of games with him. So that's

1875
01:43:42,200 --> 01:43:45,400
Speaker 1: going to be really fascinating to watch this here. I

1876
01:43:45,520 --> 01:43:47,800
Speaker 1: want to switch to the defensive side of the ball,

1877
01:43:47,880 --> 01:43:50,400
Speaker 1: and the Bills are known and they have been for

1878
01:43:50,479 --> 01:43:54,920
Speaker 1: the past two years for their defense, top three, top

1879
01:43:55,120 --> 01:44:00,160
Speaker 1: five the last few years, and really the backbone of

1880
01:44:00,280 --> 01:44:03,479
Speaker 1: the team. I would say, but one thing last year

1881
01:44:03,600 --> 01:44:07,559
Speaker 1: that this defense struggled with was run defense at times,

1882
01:44:07,640 --> 01:44:11,160
Speaker 1: and it really got not so great for a few

1883
01:44:11,280 --> 01:44:13,639
Speaker 1: games there where it seemed to fall apart, and teams

1884
01:44:13,720 --> 01:44:16,120
Speaker 1: rushed on them for a lot more than they should have.

1885
01:44:17,479 --> 01:44:22,000
Speaker 1: Your article says they ranked eighteenth and efficient inefficiency against

1886
01:44:22,080 --> 01:44:24,040
Speaker 1: the run game last year, and I think it really

1887
01:44:24,080 --> 01:44:27,240
Speaker 1: started to get better once they got run support from

1888
01:44:27,280 --> 01:44:30,000
Speaker 1: their secondary. And in the article, you say the numbers

1889
01:44:30,360 --> 01:44:34,799
Speaker 1: suggest they needed better linebacker and defensive back play against

1890
01:44:34,840 --> 01:44:37,960
Speaker 1: the run. So what numbers stood out that gave you

1891
01:44:38,040 --> 01:44:41,200
Speaker 1: the clue that that's where they needed better help from

1892
01:44:41,520 --> 01:44:44,120
Speaker 1: when it comes to linebackers and defensive backs. And also

1893
01:44:44,200 --> 01:44:48,519
Speaker 1: something that stood out was that they gave up No

1894
01:44:48,760 --> 01:44:52,480
Speaker 1: team gave up more rushing yards against twenty one personnel

1895
01:44:52,880 --> 01:44:57,120
Speaker 1: than the Bills run defense. Yeah, that's right, that's where

1896
01:44:57,120 --> 01:44:59,560
Speaker 1: they really got dinged there. And that you know that

1897
01:44:59,680 --> 01:45:02,200
Speaker 1: you running backs one tight ends that. You know you

1898
01:45:02,240 --> 01:45:05,400
Speaker 1: have certain teams like the forty nine ers some other

1899
01:45:05,479 --> 01:45:08,240
Speaker 1: teams who will nix up the fullback in there, they'll

1900
01:45:08,280 --> 01:45:11,360
Speaker 1: still keep that fullback around. And they struggled against those

1901
01:45:11,479 --> 01:45:15,280
Speaker 1: runs quite a bit. Everywhere else they were pretty mediocre.

1902
01:45:15,400 --> 01:45:17,680
Speaker 1: But in terms of where they can improve, you know,

1903
01:45:17,800 --> 01:45:21,559
Speaker 1: I think the defensive line it was okay, it wasn't great,

1904
01:45:21,600 --> 01:45:23,400
Speaker 1: but when you look at sort of you know, how

1905
01:45:23,479 --> 01:45:25,680
Speaker 1: they did, and you know where those yards were being

1906
01:45:25,760 --> 01:45:28,599
Speaker 1: picked up. Obviously a lot of the big runs were

1907
01:45:28,680 --> 01:45:32,240
Speaker 1: due to linebacker play and whether it was safety or

1908
01:45:32,360 --> 01:45:35,200
Speaker 1: cornerback play, and so that's where they kind of got

1909
01:45:35,320 --> 01:45:37,439
Speaker 1: hurt there. I know there's not a lot of personnel

1910
01:45:37,560 --> 01:45:41,920
Speaker 1: changes there at linebacker or safety. There is certainly with

1911
01:45:42,080 --> 01:45:45,200
Speaker 1: the defensive line, but overall, I think they were a

1912
01:45:45,280 --> 01:45:48,679
Speaker 1: mediocre group there, but I think they certainly can improve

1913
01:45:49,040 --> 01:45:51,680
Speaker 1: when they faced fullbacks and some of that twenty one

1914
01:45:51,720 --> 01:45:54,400
Speaker 1: personnel if they do have those teams on the schedule

1915
01:45:54,479 --> 01:45:58,760
Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, we're talking to NFL writer for the

1916
01:45:58,840 --> 01:46:02,040
Speaker 1: Athletic but together ten things from a football nerds guy

1917
01:46:02,120 --> 01:46:04,920
Speaker 1: to the twenty twenty Buffalo Bills. And I don't think

1918
01:46:05,560 --> 01:46:09,799
Speaker 1: any average fan that watches this team would be unaware

1919
01:46:09,800 --> 01:46:13,200
Speaker 1: of the fact that this defense is largely designed to

1920
01:46:13,600 --> 01:46:16,240
Speaker 1: limit explosive plays, and they've been near the top of

1921
01:46:16,280 --> 01:46:18,559
Speaker 1: the league in doing that the last couple of seasons.

1922
01:46:19,200 --> 01:46:22,120
Speaker 1: I'm just one because it's a defense quite frankly, that's

1923
01:46:22,120 --> 01:46:24,920
Speaker 1: built to stop the pass first and then everything else

1924
01:46:25,040 --> 01:46:28,040
Speaker 1: after that be good enough and hope it's enough to

1925
01:46:28,160 --> 01:46:30,519
Speaker 1: kind of keep points off the board. And they were

1926
01:46:30,560 --> 01:46:31,960
Speaker 1: pretty good at that. I think they were third and

1927
01:46:32,000 --> 01:46:35,360
Speaker 1: points allowed last year. But just getting back to the

1928
01:46:36,120 --> 01:46:40,280
Speaker 1: heavy personnel conversation and trying to stop the run. As

1929
01:46:40,360 --> 01:46:42,759
Speaker 1: we know last year, they rotated a bunch of people

1930
01:46:42,800 --> 01:46:46,160
Speaker 1: in that nickel corner role. So if it was eleven personnel,

1931
01:46:46,200 --> 01:46:48,120
Speaker 1: they had Tarren Johnson on the field. If it was

1932
01:46:48,200 --> 01:46:50,800
Speaker 1: twelve personnel, they put a bigger guy on the field

1933
01:46:50,840 --> 01:46:53,439
Speaker 1: and Siran Neil, and then if it was twenty one,

1934
01:46:53,520 --> 01:46:57,400
Speaker 1: they even tried Dean Marlowe, another safety in that nickel

1935
01:46:57,479 --> 01:47:01,320
Speaker 1: expecting a run play. I'm just one ing if they

1936
01:47:01,439 --> 01:47:05,559
Speaker 1: feel they've made the sufficient changes somewhere in their defensive

1937
01:47:05,680 --> 01:47:08,519
Speaker 1: front to better equip themselves to battle that, whether it's

1938
01:47:09,000 --> 01:47:11,920
Speaker 1: signing a guy like Quinton Jefferson who might play on

1939
01:47:12,000 --> 01:47:15,040
Speaker 1: the edge on a rundown or a heavy look, and

1940
01:47:15,200 --> 01:47:17,160
Speaker 1: then you know, some more beef in the form of

1941
01:47:17,280 --> 01:47:20,880
Speaker 1: Vernon Butler who they signed from Carolina. I'm wondering if

1942
01:47:21,160 --> 01:47:24,960
Speaker 1: two heavier set players for the defensive line could aid

1943
01:47:25,040 --> 01:47:26,400
Speaker 1: in that at all. I don't know if you took

1944
01:47:26,439 --> 01:47:29,160
Speaker 1: a look at that. Yeah, no, I didn't do a

1945
01:47:29,360 --> 01:47:31,880
Speaker 1: close up on that, but I actually did cover the

1946
01:47:31,960 --> 01:47:35,400
Speaker 1: Seahawks when they drafted Quintin Jefferson, And you're absolutely right.

1947
01:47:35,439 --> 01:47:37,479
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a guy who can play defensive end

1948
01:47:38,160 --> 01:47:41,080
Speaker 1: on East base downs and then swing inside and play

1949
01:47:41,120 --> 01:47:44,360
Speaker 1: defensive tackle when you're in pass rushing situation. So he's

1950
01:47:44,400 --> 01:47:46,760
Speaker 1: an interesting player and I thought they got really good

1951
01:47:46,840 --> 01:47:50,240
Speaker 1: value by adding him this offseason. And you're right about

1952
01:47:50,280 --> 01:47:53,400
Speaker 1: the personnel packages doing this is something we're seeing around

1953
01:47:53,400 --> 01:47:55,280
Speaker 1: the league. You know, I did a similar piece on

1954
01:47:55,400 --> 01:47:57,439
Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers and it was a lot of

1955
01:47:57,520 --> 01:47:59,920
Speaker 1: the same I mean, even to a larger degree where

1956
01:48:00,000 --> 01:48:02,800
Speaker 1: they stayed in their dime defense or they stayed in

1957
01:48:02,880 --> 01:48:05,479
Speaker 1: their nickel even when teams were coming out with sort

1958
01:48:05,520 --> 01:48:08,160
Speaker 1: of these heavier sets on offense, because as we know,

1959
01:48:08,360 --> 01:48:11,000
Speaker 1: the passing game is king in the NFL. You stopped

1960
01:48:11,040 --> 01:48:13,799
Speaker 1: that first, and like you said, you figure out everything

1961
01:48:13,840 --> 01:48:16,439
Speaker 1: else later. So I think in addition to sort of

1962
01:48:16,520 --> 01:48:19,280
Speaker 1: changing up some of those guys on the defensive line,

1963
01:48:19,280 --> 01:48:22,680
Speaker 1: they obviously signed a J. Klein as well, So you know,

1964
01:48:22,760 --> 01:48:25,599
Speaker 1: who knows. Maybe in twenty one personality you're saying, let's

1965
01:48:25,600 --> 01:48:27,640
Speaker 1: say in our base defense a little bit more, this

1966
01:48:27,800 --> 01:48:30,680
Speaker 1: team doesn't have the weapons to pass the ball against US,

1967
01:48:30,720 --> 01:48:32,920
Speaker 1: So I do think they have a lot of options

1968
01:48:32,960 --> 01:48:35,280
Speaker 1: to look at, and they're so deep on the offensive line.

1969
01:48:35,280 --> 01:48:37,719
Speaker 1: I mean, I've done about ten of these team guides

1970
01:48:37,760 --> 01:48:40,200
Speaker 1: so far and I haven't found a team yet that

1971
01:48:40,400 --> 01:48:43,360
Speaker 1: can go, you know, eight deep on the defensive line

1972
01:48:43,520 --> 01:48:47,960
Speaker 1: like the Bills can. One more question for you, just

1973
01:48:48,120 --> 01:48:51,920
Speaker 1: regarding what Brandon Bean and Sean McDermott have done in

1974
01:48:52,040 --> 01:48:55,640
Speaker 1: their time together with the Bills. Your tenth point is

1975
01:48:55,680 --> 01:48:57,840
Speaker 1: that they've done a great job over the last three

1976
01:48:57,960 --> 01:49:02,600
Speaker 1: seasons really upgrading and changing this roster u and not

1977
01:49:02,760 --> 01:49:06,120
Speaker 1: being able to not being afraid to make moves like

1978
01:49:06,280 --> 01:49:09,760
Speaker 1: add Stefon Diggs, and you said that he's embraced an

1979
01:49:09,800 --> 01:49:13,800
Speaker 1: aggressive mindset in terms of fourth down decision making. With

1980
01:49:14,040 --> 01:49:17,880
Speaker 1: that tenth point, where did the Bills rank amongst other

1981
01:49:18,040 --> 01:49:21,760
Speaker 1: teams with that? Yeah, in terms of being aggressive on

1982
01:49:22,760 --> 01:49:26,120
Speaker 1: I think there were fourth in the NFL there. I

1983
01:49:26,200 --> 01:49:28,920
Speaker 1: know when that playoffs gave some commenters, they're pointed out

1984
01:49:28,960 --> 01:49:31,760
Speaker 1: that they've certainly were not as aggressive. So I'm not

1985
01:49:31,840 --> 01:49:34,519
Speaker 1: sure if that's something McDermott has talked about or something

1986
01:49:34,560 --> 01:49:37,759
Speaker 1: he'll re visit going into this season, but they certainly

1987
01:49:37,800 --> 01:49:41,360
Speaker 1: have been aggressive going for it in those situations, and

1988
01:49:41,560 --> 01:49:44,080
Speaker 1: you know, I just think that builds confident in an

1989
01:49:44,160 --> 01:49:46,800
Speaker 1: offense and really in the defense too. When you say,

1990
01:49:46,840 --> 01:49:49,080
Speaker 1: you know what, we have a fourth through one or

1991
01:49:49,120 --> 01:49:52,200
Speaker 1: at our own forty eight yard line, we're going to

1992
01:49:52,280 --> 01:49:54,519
Speaker 1: go ahead and go for view confidence that we can

1993
01:49:54,600 --> 01:49:56,200
Speaker 1: get it and you don't If you don't get it,

1994
01:49:56,439 --> 01:49:58,640
Speaker 1: we have confidence that the defense it's going to be

1995
01:49:58,720 --> 01:50:01,320
Speaker 1: able to hope the opponent anyway. And so just in

1996
01:50:01,400 --> 01:50:04,320
Speaker 1: my experience talking to players, they really want to play

1997
01:50:04,360 --> 01:50:07,400
Speaker 1: for a coach who's aggressive in these situations. And then

1998
01:50:07,439 --> 01:50:09,320
Speaker 1: you know, I was just looking at the overall roster

1999
01:50:09,520 --> 01:50:12,040
Speaker 1: and it's just been a really impressive job in my

2000
01:50:12,160 --> 01:50:15,120
Speaker 1: opinion over the last three years or so, in terms

2001
01:50:15,160 --> 01:50:17,800
Speaker 1: of turning the roster around. I think they have a

2002
01:50:17,960 --> 01:50:20,320
Speaker 1: very complete team here. Now, you know, things have to

2003
01:50:20,400 --> 01:50:23,000
Speaker 1: fall their way. Josh Allen has to improve all these

2004
01:50:23,080 --> 01:50:25,439
Speaker 1: different things that you know, I routed a ball. I'm

2005
01:50:25,439 --> 01:50:27,680
Speaker 1: sure that you guys are talking about every day. But

2006
01:50:27,800 --> 01:50:30,600
Speaker 1: when you look at it, I mean there's talent in

2007
01:50:30,760 --> 01:50:33,719
Speaker 1: really every area you can look at. I think Josh

2008
01:50:33,760 --> 01:50:36,160
Speaker 1: Allen is really set up to succeed with five offensive

2009
01:50:36,200 --> 01:50:39,240
Speaker 1: lineman returning, and then, as you mentioned the defense, we

2010
01:50:39,400 --> 01:50:42,320
Speaker 1: know it has been very good over the past couple

2011
01:50:42,360 --> 01:50:44,519
Speaker 1: of years, and they didn't have any what I would

2012
01:50:45,160 --> 01:50:48,280
Speaker 1: call major losses, so complete team. I think they've done

2013
01:50:48,320 --> 01:50:50,040
Speaker 1: a good job, and now it's just sort of a

2014
01:50:50,120 --> 01:50:53,320
Speaker 1: matter of how what's the quarterback feeling? How much better

2015
01:50:53,400 --> 01:50:56,760
Speaker 1: can he get this year in twenty twenty. Shill, thanks

2016
01:50:56,840 --> 01:50:59,080
Speaker 1: very much for the time. We appreciate the insight and

2017
01:50:59,479 --> 01:51:01,839
Speaker 1: certainly all the homework you did to put this lengthy

2018
01:51:02,040 --> 01:51:05,120
Speaker 1: right up together. We appreciate the time. Thanks for having

2019
01:51:05,160 --> 01:51:08,240
Speaker 1: me take care all right that Shilkapati, a NFL writer

2020
01:51:08,320 --> 01:51:13,440
Speaker 1: for The Athletic put together a comprehensive advanced metric breakdown,

2021
01:51:14,360 --> 01:51:16,760
Speaker 1: largely of what the Bills did and did not do

2022
01:51:16,960 --> 01:51:20,320
Speaker 1: well in twenty nineteen, and then rolled that into their

2023
01:51:20,360 --> 01:51:23,000
Speaker 1: outlook for twenty twenty based on their free agent editions

2024
01:51:23,040 --> 01:51:25,360
Speaker 1: and some of the changes they've made on each side

2025
01:51:25,400 --> 01:51:29,479
Speaker 1: of the ball. Really really, really thorough. I know Maddie

2026
01:51:29,560 --> 01:51:31,280
Speaker 1: touched on it, but man, I mean, you want to

2027
01:51:31,320 --> 01:51:33,920
Speaker 1: talk about some work. You know, Maddie and I do

2028
01:51:34,040 --> 01:51:36,280
Speaker 1: our share of writing too for Buffalo Bills dot Com.

2029
01:51:36,560 --> 01:51:40,960
Speaker 1: This was this was a heavy lift. Oh yeah, and

2030
01:51:41,120 --> 01:51:43,280
Speaker 1: the numbers that he had and what tastes to kind

2031
01:51:43,320 --> 01:51:46,760
Speaker 1: of find those numbers. I mean, as a football fan

2032
01:51:46,920 --> 01:51:50,280
Speaker 1: and somebody who works for the Bills and a reporter role,

2033
01:51:50,479 --> 01:51:53,400
Speaker 1: I like foam at the mouth for these numbers because

2034
01:51:53,479 --> 01:51:55,680
Speaker 1: they're not hard to get in the fact that they

2035
01:51:55,720 --> 01:51:59,960
Speaker 1: were all piled into a long, long article with ten points.

2036
01:52:00,240 --> 01:52:04,120
Speaker 1: I mean, this is exactly what you need to be

2037
01:52:04,200 --> 01:52:07,000
Speaker 1: able to look at and have a perspective on the

2038
01:52:07,080 --> 01:52:09,479
Speaker 1: Bills for twenty twenty based off of what they did

2039
01:52:09,560 --> 01:52:12,439
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen. Really well done, and I'm going to

2040
01:52:12,520 --> 01:52:16,120
Speaker 1: read it a couple more times, definitely. Yeah. I've got

2041
01:52:16,160 --> 01:52:18,320
Speaker 1: my highlighter out here for sure, so I'll be doing

2042
01:52:18,400 --> 01:52:20,320
Speaker 1: that as well. All Right, We've got to take a break,

2043
01:52:20,360 --> 01:52:23,200
Speaker 1: but coming up next it's NFL True Falls presented by

2044
01:52:23,320 --> 01:52:25,760
Speaker 1: Yancey's Fancy, So Maddie and I will work our way

2045
01:52:25,800 --> 01:52:28,200
Speaker 1: through that. That'll come on the other side of the break.

2046
01:52:28,280 --> 01:52:30,600
Speaker 1: This is One Bills Live presented by Kalaida Health, and

2047
01:52:30,680 --> 01:52:45,120
Speaker 1: this is Buffalo Bills Radio. Back at One Bills Live.

2048
01:52:45,439 --> 01:52:47,360
Speaker 1: As we roll through the final half hour of the

2049
01:52:47,400 --> 01:52:49,960
Speaker 1: program here on a Friday, Chris Brown, Maddi glab with you,

2050
01:52:50,840 --> 01:52:56,320
Speaker 1: and time now for NFL True Falls presented by Yancey's

2051
01:52:56,360 --> 01:52:59,720
Speaker 1: Fancy New York's Artists and Cheese. Steve was trying to

2052
01:52:59,760 --> 01:53:02,400
Speaker 1: make cheese national this week, Maddie, you would have loved

2053
01:53:03,160 --> 01:53:06,400
Speaker 1: calling it America's Artists and Cheese. I was like, Oh,

2054
01:53:06,479 --> 01:53:09,760
Speaker 1: I didn't know they went national. He's news to me.

2055
01:53:10,400 --> 01:53:15,200
Speaker 1: But Steve also wearing a shirt for the cheese as well.

2056
01:53:15,560 --> 01:53:18,679
Speaker 1: Is that just responsive? But I was like, I didn't

2057
01:53:18,720 --> 01:53:21,120
Speaker 1: know if he was designing a cheese flag for them

2058
01:53:21,320 --> 01:53:23,240
Speaker 1: or what he was doing. He went, he took him

2059
01:53:23,280 --> 01:53:25,120
Speaker 1: from New York State and made him national in like

2060
01:53:25,280 --> 01:53:27,640
Speaker 1: one line. So and he did it twice. He did

2061
01:53:27,680 --> 01:53:30,240
Speaker 1: it twice this week. So it was pretty funny. But

2062
01:53:30,320 --> 01:53:34,599
Speaker 1: we've got some interesting topics here for NFL true false,

2063
01:53:34,800 --> 01:53:36,639
Speaker 1: and I gotta pull it up. Pulled on, I lost

2064
01:53:36,680 --> 01:53:40,280
Speaker 1: it there. It is so number one. The forty nine

2065
01:53:40,360 --> 01:53:45,240
Speaker 1: ers Nick Bosa and Eric Armstead represent the best edge

2066
01:53:45,479 --> 01:53:50,479
Speaker 1: defending duo in the NFL. True or false, Maddie Glenn,

2067
01:53:52,520 --> 01:53:56,280
Speaker 1: I'm looking at PF release an article and kind of

2068
01:53:56,520 --> 01:53:59,560
Speaker 1: looked at the duos of the league and for the

2069
01:53:59,640 --> 01:54:06,439
Speaker 1: brown you've got Miles Garrett and Vernon, And you have

2070
01:54:07,360 --> 01:54:12,519
Speaker 1: Cam Jordan Marcus Davenport for the Saints, Joey Bosa, Melvin

2071
01:54:12,800 --> 01:54:17,800
Speaker 1: Ingram the Chargers, TJ Watt, Budd Dupree on the Steelers.

2072
01:54:17,880 --> 01:54:23,120
Speaker 1: Pretty good duo, I'm gonna say true, just based off

2073
01:54:23,240 --> 01:54:26,040
Speaker 1: of what Nick Bosa has done so far in the league,

2074
01:54:26,200 --> 01:54:30,360
Speaker 1: and I think his steeling is still so high and

2075
01:54:30,840 --> 01:54:35,320
Speaker 1: Armstead is Yeah, yep, I'm saying true. Yeah, It's it's

2076
01:54:35,360 --> 01:54:39,120
Speaker 1: a pretty hard combination to argue with. And then you

2077
01:54:39,280 --> 01:54:41,440
Speaker 1: roll in the fact that they also have d Ford,

2078
01:54:42,240 --> 01:54:44,960
Speaker 1: who you know, played hurt last year and really wasn't

2079
01:54:45,000 --> 01:54:47,120
Speaker 1: super effective. It's like, holy cow, they bring that guy

2080
01:54:47,160 --> 01:54:48,960
Speaker 1: off the bench as a rotation that's not even a

2081
01:54:49,080 --> 01:54:52,480
Speaker 1: fair Yeah, and the Bills will get a real good

2082
01:54:52,560 --> 01:54:55,680
Speaker 1: look at them this season, so that's going to be

2083
01:54:55,760 --> 01:54:59,960
Speaker 1: a challenge. And I do like Joey Bosa and Melvill

2084
01:55:00,160 --> 01:55:02,360
Speaker 1: Ingram as a tandem. I think those two players work

2085
01:55:02,520 --> 01:55:05,360
Speaker 1: very well off each other with the LA Chargers. But

2086
01:55:05,560 --> 01:55:09,560
Speaker 1: in terms of up and coming tandems that can really

2087
01:55:11,160 --> 01:55:15,840
Speaker 1: really do some damage, you'd be hard pressed to do

2088
01:55:16,000 --> 01:55:19,040
Speaker 1: better than that San Francisco duo. I mean, I like

2089
01:55:19,280 --> 01:55:24,360
Speaker 1: Khalil Mack but I just don't think he has a compliment.

2090
01:55:24,400 --> 01:55:27,080
Speaker 1: I mean, he's got Robert Quinn now, so you know,

2091
01:55:27,760 --> 01:55:30,400
Speaker 1: maybe your hometown Bears might have something to say about

2092
01:55:30,440 --> 01:55:33,480
Speaker 1: it with that tandem, But right now, I think I'd

2093
01:55:33,520 --> 01:55:36,760
Speaker 1: be inclined to say true as well, that Bosa and

2094
01:55:37,000 --> 01:55:40,800
Speaker 1: Armstead are a handful to say the least. Okay, true

2095
01:55:40,840 --> 01:55:45,720
Speaker 1: False Number two, The AFC North is the toughest division

2096
01:55:45,880 --> 01:55:49,960
Speaker 1: in football. Now. This is I'm trying to find out

2097
01:55:50,320 --> 01:55:53,640
Speaker 1: where they're coming up with this, only because they're calling

2098
01:55:53,720 --> 01:55:56,040
Speaker 1: it one of the more competitive divisions in the NFL

2099
01:55:56,160 --> 01:56:00,320
Speaker 1: for the last decade. And I'm saying to myself, have

2100
01:56:00,440 --> 01:56:03,000
Speaker 1: you seen the Browns for the last ten years? Have

2101
01:56:03,160 --> 01:56:08,560
Speaker 1: you seen the Bengals? Like? What? Yeah? So I think

2102
01:56:08,600 --> 01:56:10,160
Speaker 1: I know where you're gonna go with this one. But

2103
01:56:10,240 --> 01:56:14,720
Speaker 1: where do you stand? False? I mean what I was like,

2104
01:56:15,280 --> 01:56:18,720
Speaker 1: I was like, did they get the conference wrong? The

2105
01:56:18,880 --> 01:56:23,560
Speaker 1: AMC North. I mean, the Ravens are good, the Steelers

2106
01:56:23,680 --> 01:56:27,040
Speaker 1: are good, could be better this year, but the Bengals

2107
01:56:27,040 --> 01:56:31,480
Speaker 1: and the Browns haven't arrived yet and when will they? Right?

2108
01:56:31,640 --> 01:56:36,240
Speaker 1: For the longest time, I always thought it was unfair

2109
01:56:36,360 --> 01:56:42,160
Speaker 1: that the Ravens and the Steelers essentially had four wins

2110
01:56:42,240 --> 01:56:45,720
Speaker 1: on their schedule before the season. He started because they

2111
01:56:45,760 --> 01:56:47,880
Speaker 1: were gonna beat up on the Browns and the Bengals

2112
01:56:48,560 --> 01:56:52,080
Speaker 1: two times each. And they finished ten and six, and

2113
01:56:52,200 --> 01:56:53,920
Speaker 1: you're like, well, son of a gun, four of their

2114
01:56:54,000 --> 01:56:57,920
Speaker 1: games were against Cincinnati and Cleveland. And now this guy

2115
01:56:58,080 --> 01:57:00,400
Speaker 1: from we gotta I gotta look this guy because this

2116
01:57:00,520 --> 01:57:03,360
Speaker 1: is bothering me now. Clutch points dot Com is where

2117
01:57:03,400 --> 01:57:06,640
Speaker 1: we got this. NFL True Falls and I'm impressed Jay

2118
01:57:06,680 --> 01:57:10,520
Speaker 1: even found this on the internet. Nile McNair is the

2119
01:57:10,680 --> 01:57:13,960
Speaker 1: writer of this, and he's got the AFC North as

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Speaker 1: the toughest division in football. And I don't know if

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Speaker 1: anyone could be more wrong with an opinion piece in

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Speaker 1: my life. You could make a better argument that the

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Speaker 1: AFC North is the weakest division in football top to bottom.

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01:57:29,440 --> 01:57:33,400
Speaker 1: The AFC South is better than them. The AFC West,

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Speaker 1: the NFC West miles ahead of what the AFC North

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01:57:38,040 --> 01:57:40,600
Speaker 1: has to offer. I'm trying to think off the top

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Speaker 1: of my head of a division that is comparable to

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Speaker 1: the way in which the AFC North is sorely lacking

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Speaker 1: in competitive balance from top to bottom. Maybe it's the

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01:57:51,760 --> 01:57:55,280
Speaker 1: NFC North you've got a Lions team that's kind of

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01:57:55,360 --> 01:57:59,480
Speaker 1: middle of the road. The Packers were overachievers last year

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01:57:59,520 --> 01:58:02,880
Speaker 1: in my opinion, and they slide back to the rest

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Speaker 1: of the pack this year. Minnesota lost some important veteran pieces,

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Speaker 1: so they'll kind of be I think closure to nine

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Speaker 1: and seven, eight and eight kind of a team. And

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Speaker 1: you just don't know what you're gonna get with the Bears,

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Speaker 1: knowing their quarterback situation is up in the air. Sorry

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01:58:19,320 --> 01:58:23,880
Speaker 1: to say, Maddie, it's okay, I but holy cow, this

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Speaker 1: is false with a capital F. Do you have a

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Speaker 1: division that you think is the strongest top to bottom.

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Speaker 1: I look at a division like the NFC West, especially

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty, with what they can do. I mean

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. Shoot, they're gonna be a lot better.

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Speaker 1: The LA Rams. They have a lot of the same

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01:58:46,040 --> 01:58:48,160
Speaker 1: players from last year, but I think they can be

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01:58:48,320 --> 01:58:51,280
Speaker 1: poised to have a better year this year. The forty

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Speaker 1: nine Ers, they lost some guys, but they're still gonna

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Speaker 1: be a really tough team to beat in the Seahawks

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Speaker 1: with Russell Wilson and a pretty good defense. That's that's

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Speaker 1: a division that I look at as being a very

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Speaker 1: strong division in the NFL. Yeah, I was going to

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Speaker 1: say NFC West also, just because those top three. I

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01:59:09,680 --> 01:59:12,640
Speaker 1: think the La Rams are a sneaky comeback kind of

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Speaker 1: team this year after having a down twenty nineteen season,

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01:59:16,640 --> 01:59:19,360
Speaker 1: like a Super Bowl hangover kind of thing, and then

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01:59:20,600 --> 01:59:23,200
Speaker 1: Seattle in San Francisco. You don't even need to explain it.

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Speaker 1: And I think Arizona is a team that's going to

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01:59:26,280 --> 01:59:29,000
Speaker 1: make a sizeable jump this year. I think if they

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01:59:29,080 --> 01:59:32,400
Speaker 1: can just tie up some loose ends on their defense,

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01:59:33,680 --> 01:59:35,920
Speaker 1: they could be a team that actually has a winning record,

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Speaker 1: which may not sound like a lofty kind of expectation,

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01:59:39,000 --> 01:59:41,200
Speaker 1: but in that division it is. I mean, you think

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01:59:41,280 --> 01:59:45,320
Speaker 1: they got six games against the Niners, Seahawks, and Rams.

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Speaker 1: If they come out nine and seven, I mean Cliff

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01:59:48,920 --> 01:59:52,320
Speaker 1: Kingsbury could be up for Coach of the Year. So

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Speaker 1: I think that is clearly far and away the toughest

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Speaker 1: division in football. I think the AFC West is right there.

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Speaker 1: The Raiders are probably the only question mark because I

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Speaker 1: think the Broncos are going to surprise some people this

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Speaker 1: year with that young quarterback and some of the additions

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Speaker 1: they've made to make themselves faster on the field. The

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Speaker 1: chiefs of the champions, and you know, I just I

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02:00:17,000 --> 02:00:21,080
Speaker 1: just see them and the Chargers I think have unfortunately underachieved.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they're going to measure up because

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Speaker 1: their quarterback situation is also in a state of transition too.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I think NFC West is far and away

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Speaker 1: the most competitive division in the AFC North. Like that

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Speaker 1: would have been maybe my seventh out of eight picks.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he's like looking into a crystal ball and he

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Speaker 1: knows the future with Joe Burrow and how Baker may

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02:00:44,760 --> 02:00:47,480
Speaker 1: turn out to me in the NFL and Ar and

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Speaker 1: I don't know, he's not Nostradamis. I'm afraid to say

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Speaker 1: he's not even Zoltar. So all right, Number three true

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Speaker 1: false here, so we're both false on that. That's the

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Speaker 1: foregun conclusion. Third three here on the list, Ben Roethlisberger

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Speaker 1: is the top superstar in the NFL that will fade

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty. So you know, this is a thirty

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Speaker 1: eight year old guy coming back from elbow surgery that

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Speaker 1: cost him almost the entire season last year. Is he

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Speaker 1: your top superstar to fade? Do you have a better candidate, Maddie,

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure if I have a better candidate, But

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say false because I think he still has

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Speaker 1: the opportunity to have a bounce back year with who

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Speaker 1: he has on his team. The Steelers are a good team.

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Speaker 1: They were a good team last year. I mean had

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Speaker 1: some troubles at quarterback without Roethlisberger, but you think about

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Speaker 1: what they did even a few years ago with those

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Speaker 1: offensive weapons. And Hi, he's older, but I want to

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Speaker 1: give him the year before I call him a fading superstar.

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02:02:00,360 --> 02:02:01,880
Speaker 1: I think he has a little bit more left in

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Speaker 1: his tank. Give him, give him a couple of seasons,

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Speaker 1: and we may call him that. Yeah. I think he

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Speaker 1: has an underrated receiving corps. Everybody makes a big deal

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Speaker 1: out of the fact that they lost Antonio Brown obviously

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Speaker 1: with all that went on there, but they have a

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Speaker 1: true number one in Juju Smith Schuster. I think James

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02:02:23,400 --> 02:02:26,920
Speaker 1: Washington is an underrated two. And then a kid that

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Speaker 1: impressed me is their slot receiver who they think is

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Speaker 1: going to be really good. And I tend to agree

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Speaker 1: because he flashed last year as a rookie. Deontae Johnson

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Speaker 1: I think is a good up and coming player that's

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Speaker 1: going to work well for them out of the slot.

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Speaker 1: And then I was a big fan of the kid

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02:02:44,160 --> 02:02:47,080
Speaker 1: they drafted in the second round coming out in Chase Claypool,

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02:02:47,120 --> 02:02:50,480
Speaker 1: the giant receiver from Notre Dame. So that's a heck

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Speaker 1: of a group and it's young, young legs that are

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Speaker 1: going to be able to run for you all day.

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Speaker 1: But the interesting thing about the Steelers is I think

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Speaker 1: we're moving back to a place, Maddie that was not

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Speaker 1: unlike the beginning of Ben Roethlisberger's career. I think the

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Speaker 1: defense is really going to be the calling card of

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Speaker 1: this team this year. I think they're going to be

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Speaker 1: the side of the ball that really carries this team.

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02:03:16,920 --> 02:03:19,960
Speaker 1: And Roethlisberger, I'm not saying he can't get it done anymore,

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02:03:20,000 --> 02:03:22,880
Speaker 1: but I think he's going to be more of the

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Speaker 1: complimentary piece on offense to what I think could be

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Speaker 1: a very strong, shutdown type of defense going forward here

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02:03:31,640 --> 02:03:34,080
Speaker 1: with all that they've been able to put together on

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Speaker 1: the back end in particular for that defense there. So

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Speaker 1: I think the Steelers are going to be a really

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02:03:39,360 --> 02:03:42,320
Speaker 1: tough out this year. But I don't think Ben Roethlisberger's

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Speaker 1: gonna have to score thirty points a game like he

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02:03:44,640 --> 02:03:48,520
Speaker 1: had to probably his last two seasons when he was healthy.

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02:03:50,240 --> 02:03:52,680
Speaker 1: But I wonder if there he's gonna be the same guy,

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02:03:53,040 --> 02:03:56,520
Speaker 1: because I think we can all agree Ben Roethlisberger doesn't

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02:03:56,520 --> 02:04:00,080
Speaker 1: take care of himself the way Tom Brady goes. I

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02:04:00,120 --> 02:04:02,960
Speaker 1: think he's an old thirty eight. He takes a lot

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02:04:03,040 --> 02:04:07,360
Speaker 1: of hits and he's not eating avocado toast every day.

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02:04:07,480 --> 02:04:09,760
Speaker 1: So I mean, did you see how big he got

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Speaker 1: when he was idol and out for the year. I

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02:04:12,400 --> 02:04:16,440
Speaker 1: think he was up over three bills. Yeah, that was ugly.

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02:04:17,040 --> 02:04:19,160
Speaker 1: He's lost a good amount of the weight, so good

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02:04:19,200 --> 02:04:21,960
Speaker 1: on him. But yeah, I don't know if he's going

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Speaker 1: to be the same guy, but we shall see. So

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Speaker 1: I am going to say, well, I guess I should

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Speaker 1: say falls because I don't know if he's the top

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Speaker 1: superstar to fade, and I'm not convinced he's gonna fade

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Speaker 1: completely into the background. So for argument's sake, I will

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Speaker 1: say false. Okay, that's NFL True Falls, brought to you

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Speaker 1: by Yancey's Fancy. We have to take a break, but

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Speaker 1: we'll be back to wrap things up with what have

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Speaker 1: we learned? And that will close out the show. It's

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Speaker 1: one Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health. This is Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bill's Radio bro What Have We Learned? Brought to you

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Speaker 1: by Skyworks, the official construction equipment rental company of the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. And on the show today we had one

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Speaker 1: Nate Boyer, former NFL long snapper for the Seattle Seahawks,

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Speaker 1: a six year Army green beret, and he was one

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Speaker 1: of the most influential people in making the suggestion to

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Speaker 1: one Colin Kaepernick to kneel as a form to peacefully

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Speaker 1: protest during the national anthem. He explained on the show

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Speaker 1: today why he felt that was the way for Colin

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Speaker 1: Kaepernick to go. If you're asking me my perspective, my feelings,

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Speaker 1: my opinion, I think being alongside your teammates is important.

2265
02:05:41,080 --> 02:05:45,520
Speaker 1: I think sitting on the bench isolated by yourself optically

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02:05:45,720 --> 02:05:48,400
Speaker 1: is not as powerful. We'll get you are alongside your

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Speaker 1: teammate in some way, and if you are vowing to

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Speaker 1: not stand until things change, like he'd said, I will

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02:05:53,760 --> 02:05:58,400
Speaker 1: not stand until things start to change, then I think

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Speaker 1: kneelings You're on the other option, you know, and kneelings

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02:06:01,400 --> 02:06:04,560
Speaker 1: a disrespectful act as far as I'm concerned, And people

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02:06:04,600 --> 02:06:06,800
Speaker 1: take an to prey and proposed to their wife. And

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02:06:07,640 --> 02:06:09,440
Speaker 1: when a players hurt on the field, everyone takes kne

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02:06:09,520 --> 02:06:12,640
Speaker 1: out of respect, and a power would visit Arlington and

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02:06:12,720 --> 02:06:14,560
Speaker 1: one of my brother's graves, I would take a knee

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Speaker 1: out of respect for him, and it's kind a few

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02:06:17,040 --> 02:06:19,800
Speaker 1: moments and he agreed it was more powerful, and he

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02:06:19,880 --> 02:06:22,760
Speaker 1: did it that night, and I stood next to him

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Speaker 1: on the field of Anthem played. And so that was

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Speaker 1: Nate Boyer, former NFL along snapper for the Seahawks, and

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Speaker 1: some great insight from him today, as well as from

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Speaker 1: Shield Capatia, the NFL writer for The Athletic, who had

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Speaker 1: ten Things from a Football Nerds Guide to the twenty

2284
02:06:39,120 --> 02:06:41,800
Speaker 1: twenty Buffalo Bills. We also had the Twitter poll today, Mattie,

2285
02:06:41,840 --> 02:06:43,680
Speaker 1: how did we end up with? Has the balance of

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02:06:43,720 --> 02:06:47,320
Speaker 1: power shifted in professional sports? So it was pretty tight.

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Speaker 1: I mean it started off as a tie race that

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Speaker 1: ended as that as well. So two hundred and sixty

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Speaker 1: four votes. A was yes this time things are different.

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Speaker 1: B Yes, but it's going to be temporary. CE not

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Speaker 1: get all. Believe it when I see it and see

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Speaker 1: one forty three point two percent. Not yet. I'll believe

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02:07:03,440 --> 02:07:06,440
Speaker 1: it when I see it. Things are different was next

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02:07:06,600 --> 02:07:11,920
Speaker 1: and temporary was less. Yeah, so an interesting balance there,

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02:07:12,000 --> 02:07:14,320
Speaker 1: And I think, as we said earlier on the show,

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02:07:14,960 --> 02:07:18,360
Speaker 1: you know, we are still very early in this movement

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02:07:18,600 --> 02:07:21,080
Speaker 1: that has gripped the country from coast to coast, and

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02:07:21,520 --> 02:07:24,320
Speaker 1: I think people are waiting to see how the next

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02:07:24,360 --> 02:07:27,919
Speaker 1: steps will go, which obviously are probably the most important.

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Speaker 1: The actionable items that need to be addressed. Demonstrations have happened,

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02:07:34,000 --> 02:07:37,000
Speaker 1: now it's time for actions, and I think people are

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Speaker 1: still wondering the course that that's going to take going forward.

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02:07:41,400 --> 02:07:43,800
Speaker 1: We're all cross our fingers. We should remind you that

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Speaker 1: next week Steve Tasker is back in this chair and

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02:07:47,160 --> 02:07:50,200
Speaker 1: he will be alongside Maddie for the balance of the week.

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Speaker 1: I'll be on vacation, and you guys have Arthur Moats

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02:07:53,400 --> 02:07:58,760
Speaker 1: up early next week. Maddie, Yes, it'll be exciting talk

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02:07:58,800 --> 02:08:02,200
Speaker 1: to the former Bills linebacker also played half his career

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02:08:02,360 --> 02:08:06,040
Speaker 1: with the Steelers, and he's a big time community advocate

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02:08:06,080 --> 02:08:07,560
Speaker 1: as well, so I'm sure he'll have a lot to

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Speaker 1: lend to the conversation when they have him on the

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Speaker 1: show on Monday. So that's about it for us here

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Speaker 1: on this edition. Of One Bills Live on a Friday.

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Speaker 1: My thanks to Mattie, Jay, Harris, JJ, Tiredo, Kelly Roode,

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Speaker 1: and Steve Hope. You're driving safe out there in Louisville, Kentucky.

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Speaker 1: For Maddie Glab, I'm Chris Brown. This has been One

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