1 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: Yays, we are back takes full when the lead gets weird. 2 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 2: I am Mary Catherin Ham and I'm Carol Markowitz. Marry Catherine. 3 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 2: I have to say that you and I have a 4 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 2: lot of plusses, but we are not the world's most 5 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 2: organized people. So I just have to note that we 6 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 2: are recording this about a week and a half after 7 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 2: our one year anniversary of normally saying it, So congratulations 8 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 2: on a year and a week and a half. 9 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: Well done to us. 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We love 14 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 2: all of our listeners, I mean most of our listeners, 15 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 2: and I really do just feel like it's so much 16 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 2: fun and it's just the conversations that you and I 17 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 2: would be having anyway, with maybe a little bit more explanation. 18 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, we are thankful for all of you guys for 19 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 3: tuning in and for passing it along to friends and 20 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 3: giving us reviews, I mean only the high ones please 21 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 3: and continue to do so because we like making it. 22 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 2: So here's to another year and week and a half. 23 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: We should put this on the calendar. You really should. 24 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 2: I did put it on the calendar. I'm going to 25 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 2: tag you in. 26 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: Okay, great, we'll get it next year. 27 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 2: Next year, I'll totally get it. 28 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, alrighty showing into the very weird news. 29 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 2: So much weird news. What is going on in your state? 30 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 3: Well, welcome to Virginia, where we have spoken about the 31 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 3: Virginia governor's race, which is a tends to be treated 32 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 3: as a bellweather for what's coming for the two parties 33 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 3: in the future. Okay, Abigail Spanberger, who's a Democrat, is 34 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 3: running against Winsome Sears, the current lieutenant governor under Glenn 35 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 3: Youngkin in the state of Virginia. Virginia is a bluish 36 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 3: purplish state. 37 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: It has about. 38 00:01:55,840 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 3: Republicans, probably, but it's heavily populated with federal work, which 39 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:02,559 Speaker 3: means in a Doge era can. 40 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: Be a little tricky tough times. Yeah, and often off. 41 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 3: The out of power party wins. So that would mean 42 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 3: Democrats would be likely to win this time around. Right, Well, 43 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 3: we've got quite a story going on in the Virginia. 44 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 3: Racist story not coming from Abigail Spamberger, who nonetheless has 45 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 3: still not denounced any of the gender based scandals at 46 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 3: any of the Northern Virginia schools because she can't be 47 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 3: a bare minimum normy right, Oh, we got another bar 48 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 3: and it's lower, Carol. 49 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 1: So this story is about the AG candidate. 50 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 3: That's the Attorney general candidate running against Jason Miaris, who 51 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 3: is the current Republican AG. 52 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, his name is Jay Jones. 53 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 3: And National Review broke the other day, Well done, guys, 54 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 3: some text messages that he had sent in twenty twenty 55 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 3: two to a fellow delegate, a legislator in Virginia, a 56 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 3: Republican woman with whom he had had an argument. And 57 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 3: in the text messages, they're rehashing this argument, and she's saying, like, 58 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 3: I'm trying to get what you're saying here, right. 59 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: And what he's saying is and I wish this were 60 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: an exaggeration. We can go to the exact tweets. 61 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, what I'm saying right here. 62 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, what he's saying is that he wishes death, murder 63 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 3: in fact, upon his political opponents, the speaker, Republican Speaker 64 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 3: of the House, not only that that he'd do it 65 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 3: with two bullets, right, and not only that, but that 66 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 3: it would be good for his opponent's children to die 67 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 3: in their mother's arms to get her to change her 68 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 3: views and the. 69 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: Speaker to change his political views. Am I exaggerating, Carol? 70 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 2: You are not. I'm going to read from these tweets 71 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 2: because I really do think we need to hear his 72 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 2: actual words. He said, if those guys die before me, 73 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 2: I will go to their funerals to piss on their graves, 74 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 2: send them out a wash in something. 75 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: Now. 76 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 2: The person that he's writing who writes J Jones like, 77 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 2: come on, he writes three people two bullets, Gilbert, Hitler 78 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 2: and Polepot. That's the comparison here. Gilbert gets two bullets 79 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 2: to the head. Spoiler. Put Gilbert and the crew with 80 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 2: the two worst people you know, and he receives both bullets. 81 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 2: Every time the person he's writing with says Jay, please stop. 82 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 2: You know, he goes on to say, I've told you 83 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 2: this before. Only when people feel pain personally do they 84 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 2: move on policy. And then he says, I mean, do 85 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 2: I think Todd and Jennifer are evil and that they're 86 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 2: breeding little fascists? Yes, this is just bananas. 87 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 3: The thing that stuck out to me in your reading 88 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 3: of that too, is that the Republican he's texting, is trying. 89 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: To get him to climb. 90 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 3: Down totally like normal, and she says at one point, 91 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 3: he's like, I'm just, you know, hashing this out with 92 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 3: you and sah, no, you're not. 93 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 1: You're telling me that you're hoping for the deaths of 94 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: the children, right of this man to change his political views. 95 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 1: And he says, yes, period. 96 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 3: I have told you that unless people feel personal pain, 97 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 3: they will not change on policy, right. 98 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 2: And it's just such an insane thing to say and do. 99 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 2: It's like, what are you really talking about here? Killing 100 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 2: children so that they won't grow up to be people 101 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 2: that you disagree with politically? It makes no sense. But 102 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 2: what I wanted to say was that, look, there's a 103 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 2: larger story here, and Luke Rosiak has a whole thread 104 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 2: about it. He writes, the most important part of the j. 105 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 2: Jones story is his rage was triggered by the fact 106 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 2: that a moderate Republican said nice things about a moderate 107 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 2: Democrat when the Democrat died. That's what caused him to 108 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 2: want to shoot the Republican House speaker. The Republican was collegial. 109 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 2: I think that it's so important because a lot of 110 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 2: people are like well, you know, there's also fringe right 111 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 2: wing figures who say crazy things. This is a mainstream 112 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 2: story about mainstream people, and the fact that J. Jones 113 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 2: is considered mainstream despite this kind of insane rhetoric is 114 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 2: a real problem on the left. 115 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 3: By the way, a couple Yes, the idea that you 116 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 3: would be triggered by someone giving a eulogy to someone 117 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 3: across the aisle to say this is absolutely bonkers, like 118 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 3: psychopathy level stuff, because you might assume like, oh, well, 119 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 3: maybe he's coming from a place of deep emotion, perhaps 120 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 3: there was a shooting and he's very upset about. 121 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 1: No, there was a eulogy. Yeah, that's what's what he's 122 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: upset about. 123 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 3: By the way, J Jones also just to this is 124 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 3: like a much lower tier issue now. He also was 125 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 3: pulled over for doing one hundred and sixteen miles per hour, 126 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 3: which of course, for any other Virginian would get you 127 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 3: in a lot of trouble. And then he was given 128 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 3: like community service And my favorite part of it is 129 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 3: that he did his community service for his own. 130 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 2: Pack, right, I get that alone. 131 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 3: Sleaziest slaziest stuff. He is now running to be the 132 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 3: head law enforcef of this entire state. Okay, so what's 133 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 3: his first reaction to this? His first statement was, like 134 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 3: all people, I've sent text messages that I regret and 135 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 3: I believe that violent rhetoric has no place in our politics. 136 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: But he went on to say that. 137 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 3: Smears were being dropped on him by Trump controlled media 138 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 3: is going. 139 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: There was no apology. 140 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 3: This was his first reaction when he decided, oh, this 141 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 3: is probably is going to be a big story. He 142 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 3: did eventually apologize and say, oh, yeah, maybe I shouldn't 143 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 3: wish literal murder and the death of your children on 144 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 3: this guy. I called him to apologize. Oh gee, thinks 145 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 3: he is not, however, dropping out of the race, and 146 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 3: no one in the Democratic Party has asked him to 147 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 3: do so, including Abigail Spamberger, who can't be a bare 148 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 3: minimum normy even in this case, including the other person 149 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 3: running on the take it for a lieutenant governor. That 150 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 3: including the National Party, Yeah, Virginia, the Virginia Yeah. 151 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 2: The Virginia Beach Democrats issued a statement which reaffirms its 152 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 2: full support for j Jones for Attorney General and calls 153 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 2: on all Virginians to line up behind Jane Jones. 154 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 155 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 3: Another group of Democrats who are in the House of Delegates. 156 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 3: So current legislators called him a person of character, compassion, 157 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 3: and vision wild like to be sure, wishing murder on 158 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 3: your opponents is not something we endorse, but we do 159 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:36,079 Speaker 3: endorse this person. 160 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: And the reason they endorse. 161 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:42,679 Speaker 3: The person is because Mieris is somehow much worse than 162 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 3: a guy who endorses murdering political terrorism. So I guess 163 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 3: for me, as a right leaning mother in the state 164 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 3: of Virginia, this is really rubbing me the wrong way. 165 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 3: I gotta say, because the texts revealed. Now some Democrat 166 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 3: hacks have tried to call them a joke. 167 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: It's not a joke. He wasn't making a joke. 168 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:07,599 Speaker 3: There was. 169 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 1: He was very serious. 170 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 3: Some have termed it bomb bast no near a Tandon, 171 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 3: a National Democrat. When a fellow panelist, not of course 172 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 3: the journalist, but a Republican on her panel brought up. 173 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: This issue, said it was you know it was a 174 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: private conversation. 175 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 3: Well, it was a private conversation between two legislators about 176 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 3: how one of them wanted to shoot another legislator. 177 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: So like, yeah, I kind of work related. 178 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 3: But what this is is an endorsement by a guy 179 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 3: who wants to be the top law enforcement officer of 180 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 3: a philosophy of political terrorism. 181 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: Right of the mids. 182 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 2: Like, that's not the right job for that guy. 183 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 3: Like he's like, no, I do think you should hurt 184 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 3: people to make them change their policy views, right. 185 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 2: Maybe kill their children, Like who knows. Until they feel 186 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 2: that pain, they can't possibly agree with me. 187 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 3: I'm the mom. I'm the mom he's talking about. I 188 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 3: am the right of center person in his state. 189 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's how incredibly vile and it's it's not a mistake. 190 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 2: It wasn't a mistake. There was no error here. Charlie 191 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 2: Cook made it, you know, tweeted it. Made it sound 192 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 2: like he had made a typo. Like all of us 193 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 2: have sent tweets, texts we regret, Like I've never sent 194 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 2: a text like that that I regret. 195 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:22,199 Speaker 1: Yeah. 196 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 3: One of the statements from Democrats was like, you know, 197 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 3: he who he Who's without sin? 198 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: Right? 199 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 3: And I was like, on this particular sin, I feel 200 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 3: quite comfortable picking up a stump like I this is. 201 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 3: And what concerns me is that when someone like near 202 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 3: A Tandon says this is just a private conversation, it 203 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 3: makes me think that's what her private conversations look like 204 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 3: and that her bubble is very comfortable. 205 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 2: Talking like this exactly. Yeah, there's actually a meme about 206 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 2: Democrats like taking something out of context in the Bible, 207 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 2: and it's like, no, I'm not a Christian and I 208 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 2: have nothing but contemporary r back with religious beliefs. But 209 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 2: this argument was going to work on me, but maybe 210 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 2: I can use it on you. 211 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: No. Yeah, so he's not stepping down. 212 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 3: He also it's worth noting that a couple of years ago, 213 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:15,079 Speaker 3: he himself called for the Norfolk a Norfolk PD officer's 214 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 3: resignation for donating twenty five dollars to Kyle Rittenhouse's legal 215 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 3: defense fund. That's the line for someone else that's not 216 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 3: on his say for him, No, no, no, no no. 217 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 3: There is of course an ad about these texts that 218 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 3: the Sears campaign has gotten ready to go, Like I said, 219 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 3: Spanberger said, oh, to be sure, these are bad texts, 220 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 3: but made no move to just abow like the candidate 221 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 3: or she asked him to get off her own ticket. 222 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 3: She is sharing with him. Let's play the ad. 223 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 1: Real quick breaking news from the campaign trail. 224 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 2: Jay Jones is under fire. 225 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:53,319 Speaker 1: J Jones is under fire. 226 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 2: Jay Jones is under fire after messages he sent twenty 227 00:11:56,679 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 2: twenty two saying former Virginia House Speaker Todd Gilbert should 228 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 2: be shot. 229 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: I'm excited about this, jiggin. It's been a great to 230 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: be out on the campaign jail with j Jones. 231 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 4: You said Gilbert's wife could watch her own child die 232 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 4: in her arms so that Gilbert might reconsider his political views. 233 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: And Joe, who will stand up for the people? 234 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 3: Jones said, quotes Gilbert Hitler and pull a pot Gilbert 235 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 3: gets two bullets. 236 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 1: To the head. 237 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 3: Jones doubled down, saying, quote, do I think Todd and 238 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,839 Speaker 3: Jennifer are evil and that they're breeding little fascists? 239 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 2: Yes? 240 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:40,559 Speaker 4: How can Virginians trust a man who said something so horrific, 241 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 4: so pallous? Only one people feel paid personally? 242 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 2: Do they move on policy that tagline? Reject the insanity? 243 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 2: Vote Republican because that is what it is. That is 244 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 2: in a nutshell, what it is like. Reject the crazy 245 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 2: and vote for the right ticket. It's just I hope 246 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 2: Virginians do the right. I know you guys are in 247 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 2: a tough election, but this is just such a wild 248 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:08,439 Speaker 2: story and really a big tell about where Democrats are. 249 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 2: They're national democrats. Being asked about this, of course not 250 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 2: is anybody being asked to condemn him from the national stage, 251 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:18,199 Speaker 2: of course not. That's all reserved for Republicans. And I 252 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 2: hope that Virginia sees through this craziness and does the 253 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:22,439 Speaker 2: right thing. 254 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:26,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, I am a little concerned that I think it 255 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 3: was our friend Jeremy Sindaro has sent this to me. 256 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: Wondered whether. 257 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 3: This would be one of those things that falls victim 258 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 3: to voters don't believe it because the Democrats are acting 259 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 3: so crazy that they're surely he didn't do that. Now, 260 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 3: this is why it's helpful to have the text on 261 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 3: the screen in the ad. And I do hope national 262 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 3: Republicans that are I would not say, like super optimistic 263 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 3: about this state perhaps should throw a bunch of money 264 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 3: at this particular campaign, because I think it is good 265 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 3: for people to know that this is how they think. 266 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: And I also want to say this, this is a 267 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:02,319 Speaker 1: they learned last time, Virginia Democrats. 268 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 3: Last time somebody got in trouble for doing something appalling, 269 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 3: it was Governor Ralph Northam. And Governor Ralph Northam was 270 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 3: found in a an old yearbook from law school. 271 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 2: High school, not high school, not middle school. Law school from. 272 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: Law school in blackface. 273 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 3: Technically, I don't think he ever admitted whether he was 274 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 3: the blackface guy or the clan hood guy. Could be 275 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 3: the one in this photo that was for publication. He 276 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 3: got in trouble for that. Democrats across the nation in 277 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 3: twenty twenty one were like, oh, you're yes, he needs 278 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 3: to step down now. They were reluctant to do this, 279 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 3: of course because he's their guy, but they were like, oh, 280 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 3: I guess we don't like the blackface. We have made 281 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 3: that quite clear. So they tell him to step down. 282 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 3: He's just like nah. He bilgoievitched it. He was like, 283 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 3: I'm not leaving. He did the he did the moonwalk 284 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,239 Speaker 3: at a press conference about it. 285 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: It was wild, y'all. It was a wild time. 286 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 3: Then. The reason that the press eventually laid off and 287 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 3: that Democrats just shut their mouths and let him serve 288 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 3: out his term is because the next guy on the ticket, 289 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 3: justin Fairfax lieutenant governor, so several allegations of sexual assault 290 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 3: and wait for it, wait for it, the best part 291 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 3: the third person in line, the Democrat ag, Mark Herring. 292 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: The Democratic ag also admitted to wearing blackface. 293 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 2: Incredible that. 294 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: They ran the board. 295 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 3: It was blackface, me too, blackface. The next person would 296 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 3: have been a Republican in line for this seat, so 297 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 3: they couldn't let go of Northom. And the press realized this, 298 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 3: so they were like, never mind, will back off of 299 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 3: this story. 300 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: But I learned from last time. 301 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 3: They're going to tweet right through this and it's up 302 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 3: to voters, I think, to do the right thing. Although 303 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 3: let's give a quick shout out and sorry to the 304 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 3: wine moms who are going to suffer through this one. 305 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 3: But Joe Scarborough next sitting to Mika, call for him 306 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 3: to drop out here he is. 307 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 4: An attorney general candidate in Virginia, is apologizing for his text. 308 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: It's about a state lawmaker. We'll go through and. 309 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 3: Probably be forced to withdraw the rest and probably is 310 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 3: doing a lot there. 311 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 2: You were saying, you know, the little chain of command. 312 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 2: New York had a similar one where when Elliott Spitzer 313 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 2: resigned because of prostitutes and the next guy, his lieutenant governor, 314 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 2: who took over, like on day one, was like, by 315 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 2: the way, I had an affair. Just get that out there. 316 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 3: You just seeing that Cliff hel Mika's squirming next to 317 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 3: Joe because they don't want any foothold on this because 318 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 3: they know it's appalling, even though, like I said, I 319 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 3: get the sense that a lot of their group chats 320 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 3: are full of this stuff, right, which might or not, 321 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 3: I don't know. 322 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, same. I don't have anybody in my group chats 323 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 2: wishing death to anyone. It's just such a low bar, 324 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 2: but all of my friends clear it. 325 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 3: Yes, congratulations everyone, Thank you, Guy Benson. 326 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,880 Speaker 1: I wanted to just tack this on here because it's. 327 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 3: On the the theme of political violence, right, which we get. 328 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:15,439 Speaker 3: We get a lot of lectures about and Guy just 329 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 3: collected from the other day one the Jay Jones story 330 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 3: where he wrote down that the pain of these deaths 331 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 3: and murdering children and his colleague might help change people's 332 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 3: policy positions. Then he notes too a development in the 333 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 3: case of a leftist would be assassin of a conservative 334 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 3: Supreme Court justice who traveled across the country heavily armed 335 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 3: with the stated intent of murdering up to three right 336 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 3: leaning justices because he was angry about their abortion jurisprudence. 337 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 3: The leftist judge in the case rejected a prosecutor's request 338 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 3: for a multi decade sentence, giving the defense team the 339 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 3: very lenient sentence they sought. It was eight years because 340 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 3: and it's in writing. In her reasoning, the left disjudge 341 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 3: cited the criminals trans identity as a factor and expressed 342 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 3: happiness that the assassination plot and its aftermath helped with 343 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 3: the criminals family therapy, Like what what And then he 344 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 3: adds two more by the way, this is one day 345 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 3: of news stories. Number three a violent leftist attack on 346 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:25,360 Speaker 3: ice officers. 347 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:26,360 Speaker 1: Where they were rammed in Chicago. 348 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 3: We don't know all the details of this yet, but 349 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 3: it surely seems that they were surrounded and asked for 350 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 3: Chicago PD help and Chicago PD help. 351 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 1: We do have the receipts on this was told not 352 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 1: to respond, stand down. 353 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 354 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:41,640 Speaker 1: And number four. On the October seventh anniversary, Elias Shapiro 355 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: is supposed to speak at NYU, a right leaning previously 356 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: canceled by Georgetown lawyer and a friend of ours, and 357 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: NYU's like, we can't give you security from all the 358 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: threats from us, so people. 359 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:58,919 Speaker 2: Might hurt you, so we have the cancel your speech. 360 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,959 Speaker 1: So it feels not great, No, it doesn't. 361 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 2: It doesn't feel good. It really will go to show 362 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 2: where conservatives are in this country. And the thing is, 363 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 2: you know, Trump loves to talk about his overwhelming win 364 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 2: in the last election, but it actually was an overwhelming win. 365 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 2: He won every single swing state. You know. Anybody who 366 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 2: points out that the popular vote was not quite as 367 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 2: land flighty as Trump will have you believe. They don't 368 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 2: campaign for the popular vote. So we have no idea 369 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 2: how many more people would have voted for Trump. So 370 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 2: I would say that right of center is the majority, 371 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 2: and we are treated like this fringe group that needs 372 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 2: to be put down. It's a real problem, Like this is. 373 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: How you deal with people like that. 374 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 3: That's what concerns me, is like he looks at a 375 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 3: right leaning mom and her husband and their children, and 376 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 3: he's like worse than pulepot. 377 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, like both bullets. 378 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: That's a problem. That's a problem for me. 379 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,919 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, we'll be right back with more on normal 380 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 2: and the changes at CBS. We are back on normally 381 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 2: with some media news. Barry Weiss of The Free Press 382 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 2: has become the editor in chief at CBS for news 383 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 2: and this is a huge deal. It's very funny that 384 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 2: she's back in the mainstream media world. She very publicly 385 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 2: left The New York Times talking about how they didn't 386 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 2: have any kind of real journalist, you know, force anymore. 387 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 2: Over there, she said that a consensus had emerged in 388 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 2: the press and at the paper that the truth isn't 389 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 2: a process of collective discovery but an orthodoxy already known 390 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 2: to an enlightened few whose job it is to inform 391 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 2: everyone else. She left The Times in a blaze of 392 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 2: glory started the Free Press. Free Press is extremely successful, 393 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 2: and now Paramount has purchased it and hired her to 394 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:01,120 Speaker 2: run the CBS newsroom. I love I love it, and 395 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 2: it's crazy because so many people are like, I can't 396 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 2: believe CBS got this right winger. Barry Weiss is a 397 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 2: left leaning moderate, like, you know, maybe just regular moderate 398 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 2: if you don't want to go with left leaning like 399 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 2: she is, in no way a right winger on no planet. 400 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 2: And again, these people need to understand that they're calling 401 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:26,360 Speaker 2: more than half the country this fringe element, and we're 402 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 2: simply not. And I love that Barry is in this role. 403 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 2: I think it's terrific. Iowah Hawk blog tweets mutiny reported 404 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 2: at CBS as journalists fear erosion of standards undercoming Barry 405 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 2: Weiss's reign of terror. But first a look into how 406 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 2: the right wing is pouncing on the humorous text messages 407 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 2: musings of an inspiring Virginia Attorney general candidate. So good. 408 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 1: No, I'm excited for her. I think it's well deserved. 409 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 3: There of course will be an uprising in CBS. And 410 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 3: I think your point is well taken about Barry Weiss's politics, right, 411 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 3: And this is actually an indication if the overwhelmingly insane 412 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 3: leftist media could read it accurately, it. 413 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: Is an endorsement of the rights. 414 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 3: Tolerance that most of us are rejoicing for the successful, fair, lesbian, 415 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 3: left leaning, somewhat heterodox thinker who runs the Free Press 416 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 3: and ran it so well that a bunch of people 417 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 3: paid actual money to sign up to get it. 418 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 2: I am people I paid. 419 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: I paid as well. 420 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 3: We're excited to have her at the helm of something large. 421 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 1: You know. 422 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 3: My only concern is that she you know that the 423 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 3: good vibes run towards CBS, and CBS is. 424 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 1: Bad vibes don't come over to the Free Press. 425 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 3: But like that when I say, like we get involved 426 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 3: in culture wars, what I want is to bully people 427 00:22:58,240 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 3: into neutrality, that's all imo. 428 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: I don't actually want to bully you into. 429 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 2: Myte I bully people into inationality. 430 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 3: It's all looking for and I feel like Barry Wise's 431 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 3: CBS is a is a step in that direction. I 432 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 3: did enjoy that brand Stelter tweets CBS News desperately needs someone. 433 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: To supercharge its digital strategy. Maybe the Free Press can help. 434 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 1: But staffer's reading this morning's memos are left to wonder 435 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: what exactly do the new bosses think we're doing wrong. 436 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 2: Again again having people read you she created. 437 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 3: A product that people pay actual cash money for, like 438 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 3: CBS can't give a lot of me And I noted, 439 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 3: you know what, probably nothing, Brian. They're probably fine and 440 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 3: have nothing to learn from this media entity that did 441 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 3: all of that that we just explained. The hue and 442 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 3: cry is another indication that they're exactly what Barry said 443 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 3: they were. 444 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: When she left The New York Times. 445 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 3: And I also want to shout out to Barry Weiss 446 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 3: and Crue for doing something that I do think is 447 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 3: really important and great for the public square that is overlooked. 448 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,120 Speaker 3: And one of the reasons that I read the Free 449 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 3: Press is their treatment of Americans of faith of all faiths, 450 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 3: but people who take their religion seriously, is respectful and interesting, 451 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 3: and she turns over stories of like revivals on college campuses, 452 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 3: Muslim parents in Montgomery County suing to make sure that 453 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 3: their kids can opt out of LGBT content like these 454 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 3: things are interesting and important. 455 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 2: There's a curiosity that doesn't feel completely ideological. I often 456 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 2: don't know the ideology of the person I'm reading at 457 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 2: the Free Press. And that's huge because look, you know, 458 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 2: you could really tell with some of the main stream 459 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 2: organizations what the news, where the news is coming from. 460 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 461 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 3: So a CBS news that incentivizes curiosity, great. 462 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,439 Speaker 2: I love it. It's been a big week for now it 463 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 2: can be old our favorite segment of media. Do you 464 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 2: have a story for us? 465 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 3: I do the Washington Post opinion page or opinion editorial writers. 466 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 3: So the official voice of the Washington Post a last 467 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 3: week was like, yeah, Democrats. 468 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: Actually shut down the government. That was them. 469 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 3: In today's editorial, we have an admission that's really important, 470 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:26,360 Speaker 3: that something I knew a long time ago, that the 471 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 3: real problem is that the Affordable Care Act was never 472 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 3: actually affordable. 473 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 2: I can't believe it. 474 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:36,360 Speaker 3: It goes on to say President Obama said, I oh, 475 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 3: Resident Barack Obama's signature achieve but allowed people to buy 476 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 3: insurance on marketplaces with subsidies based on their income. 477 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: The architects of the program assumed that risk pools would 478 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: be bigger than they turned out to be, even though 479 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 1: I told them they would not be in a bunch 480 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 1: of us in. 481 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 3: As a result, policies cost more than expected. It goes 482 00:25:56,000 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 3: on to explain that indeed, these like covid Era extended 483 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 3: subsidies they're trying to get are wildly inflated. They're for 484 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 3: rich people, they're for double enrollies, they're for people who 485 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 3: don't know they're enrolled in Omamacare and their nonsense. But 486 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 3: you know, I guess join the party. It's been since 487 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 3: two thousand and nine. I can't even do the math 488 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:19,360 Speaker 3: on how many years. 489 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 2: That is a lot of years. I was told there'd 490 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:25,199 Speaker 2: be no math on the show. So give you like 491 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 2: five minutes. I can get there. 492 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 1: I feel like I knew this due thousand mielic. 493 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 2: Now it can be told. I have one. Also also 494 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 2: at the Washington Post, apparently it turns out that as 495 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 2: fed's probe DC crime stats, some police are eager to 496 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 2: help build a case that the supervisors have been downplaying 497 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 2: violent crime numbers, and it was in an effort to 498 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 2: make the city seem safer, and all of us called it. Literally, 499 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 2: everybody said that this was happening. Obviously, they couldn't admit 500 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,439 Speaker 2: that because that would mean Donald Trump was right, and 501 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,880 Speaker 2: Donald Trump can never be proven right. But some rank 502 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 2: and file DC officers and detectives have complained for months, 503 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 2: in some cases years, that managers were recording serious crimes 504 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 2: as minor ones to make their police districts appear safer 505 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 2: or avoid the ire of top department brass. That is 506 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 2: so nuts because it's also such gaslighting. People are like, 507 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 2: my neighborhood is crime ridden, and they're like, no, it's not. 508 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 1: Don't pay any. 509 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 2: Attention to your own eyes. I know you know a 510 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 2: lot of people who had crimes committed against them, but 511 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 2: let us show you our official numbers as to say 512 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 2: there's no crime at all. It's totally fine. 513 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 3: I do love it how the left and like left 514 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 3: leaning commentators just sort of a light on these conclusions 515 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 3: six yea, six months to ten years after we have 516 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 3: and they're like, okay, yeah, so, like I mean we 517 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,159 Speaker 3: totally knew this, Like smart people always knew this, right, obviously, 518 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 3: and like they don't address the fact that they lied 519 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:54,159 Speaker 3: to you about it. 520 00:27:54,480 --> 00:28:00,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, just like you know some police are saying, frustrating 521 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 2: it really is. We will be right back with more 522 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 2: on normally, where we mock a New York Times piece 523 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 2: about divorce sort of be right back. We are back 524 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 2: on normally with a column in the New York Times 525 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,199 Speaker 2: that says, what does gen z divorce look like? I 526 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 2: can't wait to hear? Do you want to tell us 527 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 2: about it? 528 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 1: Yeah? Let me just give you that opening. 529 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 2: Actually can't wait to hear you pronounce the name of 530 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 2: this person, so please please proceed her title her titles. 531 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 532 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 3: In twenty twenty one, Kira Benson, a violinist living in Seattle, 533 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 3: knew it was time to get a divorce, ending their 534 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 3: two year quote lavender marriage wasn't an easy decision, but 535 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 3: the musician had a supportive ally, quote if you have 536 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 3: to dump your ex husband mix am I MX, I. 537 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: Bet I was waiting to hear, is it MX mix Mix? 538 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 3: Benson said, I don't know. I'm not in a public 539 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 3: elementary school. How would I know how to say that? 540 00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: Okay? 541 00:28:58,600 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 2: I bet our I bought my kids. 542 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 3: From their time in Brooklyn, so mc spenson said co 543 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 3: dump him with his mistress. Before the breakup, mc spenson 544 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 3: twenty seven, who uses the pronoun day, checked in with 545 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 3: their therapist, who said a divorce would be a quote 546 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 3: good choice out of queer solidarity. They informed their husband's 547 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 3: quote mistress this was kosher and Mick Spinson's arrangement, which 548 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 3: was not a legal marriage. I love domestic partnership about 549 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 3: their shared partner's troubling behavior. The night of the breakup, 550 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 3: mc spenson and the mistress spent a cozy evening together. 551 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 3: We were eating a lot of comfort food, playing a 552 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 3: lot of animal crossing. 553 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: I am having an aneurysm. 554 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 2: What is going on? 555 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: This is the divorce right? 556 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 2: Yeah? My friend John Cardillo, I don't share private text, 557 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,239 Speaker 2: but I don't think he'll mind this one. When we 558 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 2: were discussing this column, he said, so, quote they divorced someone, 559 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 2: quote they never married, which is what? And then The 560 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 2: Times had a piece about it. 561 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, if the gen z looks like that, 562 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 3: it's probably a pretty easy process. 563 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 1: That's called a breakup. 564 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 2: I divorce, the I divorce, the I divorce the. 565 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 3: Yes, it goes on to like report a couple of 566 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 3: other slightly more normal people getting divorced. But it says 567 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 3: that gen Z prizes speed. They want to get out 568 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 3: of these marriages quickly. They're often short, with no children 569 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 3: and no property. That's more gen Zu trends happening there. 570 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 3: Often divorce is about rebranding, which I do think. There 571 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 3: is this tendency to turn your divorce into content, which 572 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 3: I'm torn on this because on one hand, it can 573 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 3: help because people have been through a tough thing and 574 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 3: they're seeing your content and thinking like, maybe. 575 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 1: That's what it could look like for me. But it's 576 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: a lot to be putting out there. 577 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 3: There's also the theory that the COVID generation is more 578 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 3: comfortable with upheaval because they're like, everything got tossed in 579 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 3: the air anyway, So why does this marriage need to 580 00:30:58,960 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 3: stay here forever? 581 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 2: I don't like it. 582 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: I don't like it either. 583 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 3: Also, a lot of them are just thrupples that are 584 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 3: in domestic partnership, so that's not really divorce. 585 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, this poor guy, I lost his wife and his 586 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 2: mistress and they're like playing video games and having a 587 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 2: cozy evening. I don't know. I don't know what's going on. 588 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 2: I'm too old for this shit like. 589 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: We are too old for it. It is true. Yeah 590 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: it doesn't sound fulfilling. I'll tell you that, No, it doesn't. 591 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 2: Nothing about this is like, oh, I want to go 592 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 2: get this like, nothing aspirational about. 593 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,239 Speaker 3: It, that everyman opening. I do love that. The New 594 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 3: York Times is like, this is it. This is the 595 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 3: anecdote that will really resonate with everyone. Mix Mix Spenson 596 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 3: ask to you, Mix Spenson. 597 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 1: Good luck with that in your future endeavors. 598 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us on Normally. Normally airs Tuesdays and Thursdays, 599 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 2: and you can subscribe anywhere you get your podcasts. Get 600 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 2: in touch with us at normallythepod at gmail dot com. 601 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening, and when things get weird, act normally