1 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: It's now time for Cannabis Talk one oh one with Blue, 2 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: Joe Grande, and Mark and Craig Wasserman, the Pot Brothers 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: at Law. We're the world's number one podcast for everything cannabis. 4 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Cannabis Talk one on one. My 5 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: name is Blue. Alongside of me is the world famous 6 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 1: Pot Brothers at Law, Mark Wasserman and Craig is with us, 7 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,159 Speaker 1: and neither is Joe Grande. But we do have the 8 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: Ladies of Cannabis Talk one on one, June and Christine. 9 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: How are we doing today, ladies and gentlemen. Hello listeners, 10 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: Hello listeners, what's up? Mark Telsa's going down on the show? 11 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 1: You know what? Hi? I got kissed off last day? 12 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:44,599 Speaker 1: And to get the normal intro that Joe usually because yeah, 13 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 1: we're here, we can't to talk one on one, but 14 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: we are out here trying to change the stigma and 15 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: make serious change how people view and look at cannabis. 16 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: And when I saved you, we talked about film, television, 17 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: movie entertainment. I was watching the show it's on I 18 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: forget which network it's on. It's called The Unicorn. Have 19 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:11,639 Speaker 1: you heard of it? It's about a widower who lost 20 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 1: his wife. He's got two teenage daughters and supposedly a 21 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: guy like that good looking guys a widower is a 22 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: unicorn and he's a good catch. That's the weirdest country 23 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: song I've ever heard. It's a really good show. I 24 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 1: like it. I've been watching it. It's the episodes or whatever. 25 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 1: And then there's an episode where of the adults are 26 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: sitting around drinking wine and one of them is sitting 27 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: there kind of spaced off, and somebody says, oh, he 28 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: he ate some marijuana edibles and then he goes, ah, 29 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: ebba do bulls. I oh wow, And I'm just thinking, 30 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: you know, this is just bullshit the way they characterized 31 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: cannabis used while these other guys are drinking with their whiskey. 32 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: Every TV show we watch, they're sitting there drinking whiskey 33 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: or drinking once. So I started doing research, and when 34 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: it comes to movie entertainment, there's a proud, a profound 35 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:19,119 Speaker 1: impact on what society thinks of cannabis, and you can 36 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: track it by watching how cannabis acceptance and representation changes 37 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: over the last half century through television, through film, and 38 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: other entertainment media. So you looked through during During periods 39 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: of more liberal acceptance, we see positive representations of the plan, 40 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: but then strong anti drug campaigns in the eighties Just 41 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: Say No television ramps up, and they further warp the 42 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: public perception of cannabis. Hence dare right. Everybody remembers the 43 00:02:52,800 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: group lumber. Ye, dispensaries are very expensive. I remember, hey, 44 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: are your head Is that your headphones right there on 45 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 1: your mike? Say it again? Is that? Let me see 46 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 1: your mic right there? I'm trying to see her my 47 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 1: big big mark. Yeah, that's Is that a new mic? 48 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: You got there? Yeah? Man, I got the big throw down, 49 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 1: just like Joe has in his house. That's the biggest 50 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: mike I've ever seen. I would have never done that. Well, 51 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 1: Joe said, I sounded so horrible on my last one 52 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: that you know I had to fix that. You sound 53 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: worse today. But let's continue. You can hear me right 54 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: barely alight. So, so we're talking about the eighties and 55 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: and and how you know Dare and just say no. 56 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: Now we're seeing it in television and film, and it 57 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: creeps in now when we support federal legalization of cannabis. 58 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: Now right now, it's having all time high, right the country, 59 00:03:56,320 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: everybody wants it. A few television shows are beginning to 60 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: undo the stigmentation of the plant. And you know, to 61 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: really get a full picture, I went back and I 62 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: looked at how television came around on cannabis. And to start, 63 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 1: we gotta go all the way back to the nineteen sixties, right, Well, 64 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: we go back to the thirties when the original reef 65 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 1: for madness films, right yeah, and that was Ann Slinger 66 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: and all of that ship. And so you know, that's 67 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 1: when the whole stigma was being created, changing the word 68 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: from cannabis to marijuana and the reef of madness and 69 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: it's gonna kill everybody. And that's steadfast up through the sixties. 70 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: Then you have to go in nineteen seven. Remember the 71 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: show drag Mit You d Yeah, so that was a 72 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 1: popular show. Cannabis wasn't on television really, and those there 73 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: wasn't innocuous story in an old Andy Griffith show if 74 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 1: you've ever if you ever watched that Return to Maybury, 75 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: and you know, it's really funny how there's little innuendos 76 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: that you really have to look for. But the best 77 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: known portrayal that we just talked about was the exploitation film, 78 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: and that's exactly what it was, right Reefer Madness and 79 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 1: the film Assassination of Youth, which was cannabis is killing 80 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 1: the youth, right. And this is where we see it 81 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 1: first reflected on TV. In the Dragnet episode The Big 82 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:39,359 Speaker 1: High H I d H. The Big High, and you 83 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: had Detective Joe Friday. He's called into the home of 84 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: a young married couple on the suspicion that they are 85 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: putting the young coddler in harm's way by holding marijuana parties. 86 00:05:54,800 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: And the word marijuana party, right, and and they use 87 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: that word instead of kinaba fact further the negative stigma. 88 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: And so what I'm real surprising is that when and 89 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,799 Speaker 1: you gotta watch the show, right you go, these shows 90 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: are all available. When Friday in Terry gets the couple 91 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: about their use, they push back on the assertion that 92 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: cannabis is a gateway drug and remind him that it's 93 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: no more harmful than liquor and it's not going to 94 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 1: lead to anything else. And those are the same arguments 95 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: that we're hearing today. So they try to get out there, 96 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: but of course the episode depicts the effects of their 97 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: for this like somebody's on Heroin, turning the couple in 98 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: The Hopeless addicts nodding off, falling asleep, and there drowns 99 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 1: in the bathtub because what do you think about? You know? 100 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: And that's that's how it's introduced on television in the sixties. Well, 101 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 1: you know, the thing, the thing that reminds me of 102 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: this is all screwed up is that alcohol. And if 103 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: you if you look at alcohol and cannabis, I mean, 104 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: I grew up thinking it was okay to drink and 105 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: not okay to smoke weed. I mean, you know, at 106 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: a young young age, and not from my family, but 107 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: from the people around me, from TV, from everything else 108 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: I'm talking about, from the television. And if you start 109 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: to look at what TV stands for, its tell a vision. 110 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: And so you have to understand you're on a broadcast 111 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: and that they are called programs. And a lot of 112 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: people don't understand that, right, So people start saying, you 113 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: are you're on a you know what program are you watching? 114 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: You know, so you're being programmed and you tell a vision. 115 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: So there's a lot to that pit you have something 116 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: to say, yeah, yeah, what's funny, Like liquid lunch is 117 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: perfectly acceptable. And then I have so many women go 118 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: you you do what with cannabis? But look at lunches, 119 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: you know, come on with three in the afternoon and 120 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: totally acceptable. Cannabis were growth, right, and this is this 121 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: is TV no and and and only that there's there's 122 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: so much that again that the liquor has been promoted, 123 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: like when we were kids, smoking was promoted. Liquor was promoted, 124 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: and cannabis was bad. And so you go back to 125 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,119 Speaker 1: the merijuanos and stuff like that. Or you know, people 126 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: that smoke marijuana are going to abuse you or hurt 127 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: you because they're violent, and and um there it's addicting. 128 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: And all these things have been lies. And so when 129 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: you when you play back that and you start to, 130 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: you know, unravel the bullshit that's been out. We often 131 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 1: god like, how do we get so tricked for so 132 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: many years? I mean, I I felt like a criminal 133 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: for for years running around with cannabis. And I was 134 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: at the time, well, I thought that my dad was 135 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: like a running felon or just a bad guy because 136 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: he had weed in his house. Because I was so programmed. 137 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: I'm like, I mean, imagine your whole life. You think 138 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: your dad's a bad guy. Because he smoked weed. Yeah, no, 139 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: that's that's the that's the program that that was delivered 140 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 1: to all of us as young. But now the kids 141 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: that are growing up now, you know, they're starting to 142 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: hear medical marijuana and I'm and so when you start, 143 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 1: and it kind of sucks because the way it's been 144 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: laid out too is that you know, medical pharmaceutical drugs 145 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: have screwed a lot of people up and and more 146 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: than anything, they're more addictive. And they've only been on 147 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: the world, in our in the plant on the planet 148 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 1: for I don't know, three thirty thirty years, sixty years 149 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 1: or something like that. I don't know what it is. 150 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 1: But the cannabis has been used forever, forever. I mean, 151 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 1: you touched on something that might make me cry, like 152 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 1: because when you when you said like about that and 153 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 1: taking pharmaceutical drugs, my mother died from suicide, sorry to 154 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: hear them, and from taking a ton of pharmaceutical drugs 155 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: and thinking about if she just would have had cannabis today, 156 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: bless her soul, she might be here. So I mean 157 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:01,199 Speaker 1: true to the story of what we see and what 158 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:06,199 Speaker 1: processes through our mind, absolutely is an influence on everything. 159 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: This is an amazing subject to touch on. Mark, I 160 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: praise you for this because it's right now in front 161 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: of us with all these new studios opening, you know, 162 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: and they say, we can't use the word cure, but 163 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 1: cannabis really truly can cure the opened addiction, the war 164 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: on against opiates. Cannabis really can cure this. Well. The 165 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: problem the problem with cure, the word cure, you know, 166 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: is that when you start saying this will cure you, 167 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: it will make you better, right, and it's just not 168 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 1: a uh you know, it's not proven. It's been proven 169 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:43,959 Speaker 1: by anecdotal evidence, but it has been proven in medical fields, right, 170 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,959 Speaker 1: so you know, so that the problem with anecdotal is 171 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: that we we've said, hey, it helps me, you know, 172 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: articulate better, or it helps me not have seizures, or 173 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: it helps me with my cataracts, or it helps me 174 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: with these things. But the medical facility, the medical science 175 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: behind has not has not actually came out and done 176 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: the resourch search because the endocannabinoid system hasn't been in 177 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 1: our medical books. So before the last couple of years, 178 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: they haven't even discussed it. They didn't even know it existed. No, 179 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: it's nice, it's supposed to. With all the technology, we 180 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,319 Speaker 1: can you know, quote unquote prove as much as we can, 181 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: Like I tried, you know, the top ten CBD oils 182 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: to see if they crossed the blood the blood brain barrier. 183 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: I mean, we can actually prove a lot. I mean, 184 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: quote unquote prove a lot with cannabis. Now we have 185 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: the technology and a lot of people need to gather 186 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 1: and get on and go, hey, if we can come 187 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 1: closest to using the word cure with cannabis. What's stopping us? Well, 188 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 1: it's the research. It all starts with the research, right, 189 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 1: So how much funding are you gonna put into research 190 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 1: to actually get a cure and say this will cure 191 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: Crohn's disease, this will cure this or that, you know, 192 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: and until the research and the funding is in place, 193 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: and again you're talking about, you know, somebody that's willing 194 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: to spend millions and millions of dollars for research justify 195 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: find out and for what purpose? You know? Is that? 196 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: Is that because you know, what's the what's the the 197 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,959 Speaker 1: reward on the other side, we're curing people. But to 198 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:12,439 Speaker 1: say that now, it's just you know, I can agree 199 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: that yes, it does help with all these things and 200 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: maybe it does cure, and I believe that it cures, 201 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: but again, selling the fact that it cures is a 202 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: very big no. Not right now. Yeah, and we need 203 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: to get is going to decide what you can say 204 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: cures recommittee, right, the FDA decides that. But getting back 205 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: to what we're talking about, we move into the seventies, 206 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 1: go from the sixties to the seventies where we do 207 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: start to see a slight shift. You guys know who 208 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: Norman lear Is, shows like Samford and Son, and yes, 209 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: we all love those shows one day at a time. 210 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: So these shows started to feature canvas focused episodes that 211 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:56,719 Speaker 1: started to break away from the baby killing stigma that 212 00:12:56,880 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: reef madness and dues. And in these episodes, so there's 213 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: Sam Sanford and Son Fred's Treasure Garden and then another 214 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: episode of Barney Miller called Hash and the Cannabis. Well, 215 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:17,679 Speaker 1: it's it's used a lot more subtly. The character has 216 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 1: become forgetful, but if they can, they become a little nicer. 217 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: And in both episodes reflecting cannabis universal truth that you 218 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: will get the munchies. So you know they're still making 219 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:34,719 Speaker 1: fun of it. It's not the way I'd like to 220 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,319 Speaker 1: see it represented. But it's it's the seventies. It's to 221 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: move forward, and then we start getting into the eighties 222 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: and we get away from the youth amerness but stoner 223 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: stupid from the eighties two thousands. That's the DARE and 224 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: drug abuse resistant education. That's DARE, right, dare you to 225 00:13:55,559 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 1: stay off drugs, just saying no and all that that. Well, 226 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 1: what do you guys remember about Aaron when we were 227 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: going up and just saying that, Well, I think that 228 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: it's Cannabis Talk one on one will be right back 229 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: after this. Welcome back to Cannabis Talk one on one. 230 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: Christine Janey, Mark Washerman from the pop Brothers of All 231 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: and I am Christopher Wright, and you are now tuned 232 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: in Mark, jump back in that man. All right. We're 233 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: just talking about television, film entertainment, how it has a 234 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: way of impacting how people look and look at and 235 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: feel about cannabis. And we were just getting into the 236 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: nineteen through the two thousands where we were talking about 237 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: and Dare and Nancy Reagan. How did you guys feel 238 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: about that and how did it impact you growing up? 239 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: I remember seeing an anti cannabis thing and it came 240 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: up on Instagram about uh um, just a naked woman 241 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: and a guy was blowing a trumpet like into her 242 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: butt or something like anything like they stay away from drugs. 243 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: I'm like that woman kind of looked like she's having 244 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: a good time. I don't like really like discouraging me. 245 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: I mean I kind of feel like it help me 246 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: the opposite for me. What about you, J gosh to 247 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: just say no it just again. I I would literally 248 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: like hide when people would see me at school because 249 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: I didn't want them to see my dad riding up 250 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: in his Harley and like smoking his gonejo. And I 251 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: just was like, oh my gosh, my dad is such 252 00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: a bad person. Just say no, just they know, just 253 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: they threatened me with in your life. This is the 254 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: one I remember the most. There was an egg. They 255 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: cracked it on the tay on the pan. They put 256 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: it in the frying pan, and it says, this is 257 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: your brain. This is your brain on drugs. Any questions. 258 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: And so what they did is they took the egg, 259 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: they cracked they said this is your brain. And then 260 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: they cracked it this is your brain on drugs. And 261 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: then they opened it up and fried it. And while 262 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: I was frying. It was like any questions. And so 263 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: when I look back at it and and I and 264 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: I bring it back, it was one of the bushes. 265 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: I believe that they created the DARE campaign, right, Nancy, 266 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: I'll clear that up. It was of national drug drug 267 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: control policy that was created during the Reagan period. Just 268 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: say no, and that what we're talking about, those set 269 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: of commercials, you know. And and so to sum that 270 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: up though, is now with with as time has passed, 271 00:16:56,640 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: we often look back and go, wow, Nancy Reagan, Well 272 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: when you when you think of that, Rick Ross, Rick Ross, 273 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: and I believe it was Nancy Reagan that was involved 274 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 1: in actually transporting all the drugs into our country. And 275 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 1: if you look at some of the shows, and it 276 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 1: might have been Bush Reagan, but whatever, but it was politics, 277 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: and it was presidents that brought that that were involved 278 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 1: with these people that served a lot of time and 279 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 1: then they got out and they're going, well, wait a minute, 280 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 1: I was getting passes from the president's wife for the 281 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: President of United States. They were pushing pushing me to 282 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: transport this stuff in and they were all involved in it. 283 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: They were all getting paid on it. And so you know, 284 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: I would check out the Rick Ross story. When you 285 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: start hearing these things and wonder, why are they pushing 286 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: against drugs, but at the same time they're moving the 287 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 1: mentour our towns. You know, I believe they dropped crack 288 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 1: off in Los Angeles. You know, I remember that, Remember 289 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: the ecstasy like thing where everyone was doing uh and 290 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: the Yeah, there was like an acid thing where everyone 291 00:17:57,840 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: was doing the acid back in the eighties too. It's 292 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 1: like the thing, Yeah it was mushrooms acid it was. 293 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: And now you know, the mushrooms are starting to become legal, 294 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 1: thank god, thank god. I like them now. And to 295 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: be honest with you, they they I do believe there 296 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 1: can be a medicinal value for it as well, and 297 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 1: and and so then there's people that say that there's 298 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: cocaine has a medicinal value if you can uh micro dose. 299 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: But the problem with that is that you start doing 300 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: cocaine on a micro dose level. I don't think anyone 301 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 1: can do cocaine on a micro dome. Just there's never 302 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: one colonel for a line when it comes to cod Yeah, 303 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 1: everybody's clocking around, Hey buddy, can I get another one? 304 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:44,439 Speaker 1: And if you don't have it, then it's me like 305 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 1: follow the bags. So so no, My my theory behind 306 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: this is is what I'm trying to actually deliver to 307 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 1: the audience and let them here, is that you know, 308 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: there's these huge forces that are stopping the drugs at 309 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: the same time and you know, bringing them in. And 310 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,360 Speaker 1: here's here's the perfect examples. You know, we can see 311 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: it on on on a small level. Is that the 312 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: big street gangbanger guy changed his act and now he's uh, 313 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 1: you know, working with children and helping all these people. 314 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,439 Speaker 1: We've heard it a lot of times, but you didn't. 315 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: You haven't heard it in the big political world because 316 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: they're hiding it so well because you can't touch them 317 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,479 Speaker 1: right there. You're not gonna take down Reagan's family. You're 318 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: not gonna go take down the Bush administration because you're 319 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: accusing them of drugs, because that is gonna be a conspiracy. 320 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: That's bullshit. But is it is the question? Well before 321 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: Reagan gets in there, you know, just as he was 322 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,959 Speaker 1: getting in there, at the beginning of the eighties, people 323 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: were looking at cannabis users. The the examples were Cheach 324 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: and Chong from the Fast Times. It reached about high 325 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 1: and the stone stupid, which is all fun and well, 326 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: and those are all great classic movies and everything, and 327 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: it got away from hey, we're not baby killer, We're 328 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: just stoners who are, you know, having fun and doing 329 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: stupid things and getting high, eating and munching out or whatever, 330 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 1: and driving trucks made of cannabis across the borders in 331 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: that great movie. But then you get the Reagans who 332 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: come in Comprehensive Crime Control Act, of which comes along 333 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 1: with the National Drug Control Policy. We talked about what 334 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: that led to in terms of your brain on drugs 335 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 1: and all of that. That whole campaign anti drug campaign 336 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: which would seep into these sitcoms in the eighties and nineties, 337 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: and the images used on TV essentially amounted to half 338 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 1: hour public service announcement. Remember Punky Brewster, Oh my god, 339 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 1: Brewster loved her Punky Brewster so um she pushed. She 340 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: was on an episode and she's pushing back on middle 341 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 1: school people trying to give her joints by just saying no, right, 342 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: just saying no. So this whole say no it came 343 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 1: right into the entertainment Poker Saved by the Bell. There's 344 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 1: no hope with dope, yeah, and then all these little 345 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: you know what what what else do you remember from 346 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 1: that era McGrath dog, Yes, let me tell you this 347 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 1: one real quick. Smokey the bear that was my guy. Here. 348 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: Here's one other one though that you might not you know, know, 349 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 1: And I think there was people also pushing the other 350 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: side of the agenda. Just to kind of tip for 351 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 1: chat is Scooby Dooby Doo? Where hey, So where are you? 352 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: Things are gonna get better, Scooby Dooby doo? Where are you? 353 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: And when you do it right, you'll get a Scooby snack. 354 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: So I think they were trying to push them, and 355 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,360 Speaker 1: they were in the van and they were pushing the 356 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: I think they were pushing the agenda for the annabis 357 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: community right there. But but Shaggy and and and and 358 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: the Scooby were Scooby was a little bit you know, 359 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 1: he was a little he was a little stoned, right, 360 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: And so when you look back at yeah, when you 361 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:16,199 Speaker 1: go back to to Scooby Dooby Doo, you know, I 362 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 1: think that they were insinuating about cannabis. I think there 363 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,479 Speaker 1: was a lot to it. But you know, so there 364 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: there's the other side of it as well. But I 365 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: do believe that you're right. The propaganda is ridiculous, and 366 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 1: it has been for years and and and it's still 367 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 1: increasingly grows while while we're making these federal changes. And 368 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 1: which is you know, crazy to me? And I mentioned 369 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: Home Improvement an episode which made it seem like an 370 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: alcoholic is better than somebody who smokes a joint and 371 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 1: if the joint is actually laced with meth. Well it was. 372 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: It was really the cannabis that really screwed you up. 373 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 1: Stuff like back in the day, like you know, mixing 374 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,360 Speaker 1: and all those different things. It was like bad if 375 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 1: you put like that stuff on cannabis. But it was 376 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 1: like the cannabis, like you said that, everyone was like, 377 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,199 Speaker 1: oh gosh, that's gonna really get you messed up. You 378 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: mean the cocaine is it that's on it? Yeah yeah, yeah, 379 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: you have that leeds and it gets you high. But 380 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: the crack that's that's mixed in there isn't gonna do anything. No, 381 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,239 Speaker 1: the crack's gonna definitely get you higher, buddy. You know. 382 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 1: Just for those out there that don't know, a little 383 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 1: heads up, yeah, don't do drugs now now that the 384 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: Dare era not only targeted teens but young children now, 385 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 1: help get your memory. There was a special cartoon All 386 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 1: Stars to the Rescue, remember those, and they would have 387 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:48,360 Speaker 1: you know what, bugs, Bunny and Winning the Poo, Teenage Ninja, Turtles, 388 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: Garfield and all these other cartoon characters with an introduction 389 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 1: by and you name you all called it out Earlier 390 00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: Blue by President George Bush, H. W. Bush and Barbara Bush, 391 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: and it was about a young boy who was tormented 392 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: by the spirit of addiction, which was voiced by the 393 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 1: Great George C. Scott. And then these they get help 394 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 1: from all these different cartoon characters. And while we never 395 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: see the boy actually smoked the joints, he hides it 396 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 1: under his bed and he manages to steal his sister's 397 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: piggy bank and get violent when she tries to take 398 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 1: his ash. So he hides his joints just sister guys 399 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,879 Speaker 1: to come and get it, and he gets violent. He 400 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: hasn't even smoked it. He's getting violent because she wanted 401 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 1: to take it from him. And so I mean, when 402 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: really it's just, hey, you're still in that I paid 403 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:49,239 Speaker 1: for this, Why are you taking it from me? And 404 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: then you had all of these different cartoon characters chiming 405 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: in in different ways who say no to cannabis she drugs, 406 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 1: you know, and if that's the drug, they don't show 407 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: anything else. They show the cannabis. And while the panic 408 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: over cannabis was most prevalent during that time, um, there 409 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: were some sitcoms that took a slyer approach, like Roseanne. Right, 410 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 1: if you're remember watching Roseanne, she gets all piste off 411 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 1: at the Johnny Galecky character after discovering he's got a 412 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,239 Speaker 1: bag of plot in his room, and she yells at 413 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: him and screens at him, and then she tells her 414 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: husband mate John Goodman, who smiles and realizes that it's 415 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: actually his stash from years ago that they forgot about. 416 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 1: And you know, that's just the hypocritical nature of a 417 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 1: lot of parents right who they've done it or they 418 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: were even hiding it from this team still for this 419 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: day now Blue, you and me, I know we both 420 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: have kids and you're very open about it, but what 421 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,719 Speaker 1: don't you think about that around your kids? And how 422 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: she can handle that run after his break Mark and 423 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: we're missing Craig and Joe Grande, Christine and June and 424 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 1: myself Christopher Wright. When we right back, take a hit, 425 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: get lit and sit back and enjoy Cannabi stop one 426 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: over one with Marthy Craig Popper. We've got love Blue 427 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,679 Speaker 1: and Joe Grande Dune and just Steve with us today. 428 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, very special thanks to pick Peanut, 429 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: Jim and I know we've got some new ins in turns. 430 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: I don't help all their names in front of me, 431 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: yell at out. Blue, Oh, we've got Able and Erica, Erica, 432 00:26:54,320 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: Erica is beautiful. Able. You're looking pretty good over the yeah. Yeah. 433 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: So when we left up, I didn't get to the 434 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,360 Speaker 1: punchline of the Rosanne show where they get pissed off 435 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 1: at the kid for finding their staff from years ago 436 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 1: that they had. So what do they do At the 437 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 1: end of the episode after beating their kids down, they 438 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 1: light up the joint and they realized that it's like 439 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:23,400 Speaker 1: ten year old cannabis and it's not that good. That's 440 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,959 Speaker 1: where they're rod. But getting back to what we were 441 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:31,239 Speaker 1: talking about and how they treated the kids, and I 442 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,959 Speaker 1: was saying, I had kids, Blue has kids, and we 443 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,360 Speaker 1: feel that if they don't get the education home, they're 444 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 1: gonna get it from Johnny on the Street guarantee. How 445 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 1: do you feel about that, Blue with your kids and 446 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 1: talking about cannabis. Well, for me, you know, my kids 447 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 1: are right at that age you know, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen 448 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: years old where they're they're they're ready, you know, they're 449 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 1: they're seeing it. They're already involved in it. Like and 450 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:56,880 Speaker 1: how do I know, you know, when they walked through 451 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: the door, you could smell it, you know. So I 452 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 1: literally the you know, instead of me, you know, saying hey, 453 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,880 Speaker 1: you know, what the hell are you doing and getting upset, um, 454 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: I go through an education process with them and have 455 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,239 Speaker 1: a discussion that says something like, hey, listen, you know 456 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 1: it's okay. You know you're gonna experiment things, but be 457 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: very conscious of what you're doing. And you know, I 458 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 1: I let them know that, you know, I'm not gonna, 459 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: you know, be the dad that stops you. But don't 460 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: smoke weed in your room type thing, right, I don't 461 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 1: want them to smoke weed in the house. And you know, 462 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 1: and and at the end of the day, you know, 463 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,199 Speaker 1: again they're going to get the education from somewhere, so 464 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 1: why not from home. So I sit down and just 465 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 1: go over things that I believe that are going to 466 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: be healthy for their you know, their growth process, because 467 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: they're still in the middle of growing and there's a 468 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: plenty of kids that need it for a medical purposes 469 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: right now, and we've proven that through evidence, but and 470 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 1: through all the different people that have been on our show. 471 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: But I think it's important to, you know, get to 472 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 1: that point of understanding that, hey, look, your kids are 473 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 1: going to try these things, and if they they're not, 474 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: it's because you've kept them in such a small little 475 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: bubble that they're gonna learn. And once they finally do learn, 476 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: they're gonna go off the deep end, right because they've 477 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 1: only they've been like, you know what, I've been sheltered 478 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: for so long that I've got to go crazy right 479 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 1: now because I've never had a chance in my childhood. 480 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 1: And I think that's the um the big understanding that 481 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: a lot of people have to get. His parents that 482 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 1: are at home, you know, have the conversation with your kids, 483 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 1: talk to them about talk to them about alcohol, math, cocaine, marijuana, uh, 484 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 1: you know, pills, all of it. Because if you don't, again, 485 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: Johnny on the Block is going to teach them, and 486 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: that that person right there is going to give you 487 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: the wrong freaking answers because he's his mind hasn't developed 488 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: yet either. So you know, for me, education, have open conversations, 489 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: discuss it with them, allow them to know that you're 490 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: okay with them, experience experimenting with it. But if it 491 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 1: starts to affect your work or your your schooling, or 492 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: if it starts to affect your attitude or your your life, 493 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 1: then I'm gonna address it and you're gonna have to 494 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: live with it. And and you could have that, you know, 495 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: open risk uh conversation with your children, and if you don't, 496 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:02,959 Speaker 1: then't then you know, they let them learn the way 497 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 1: they're gonna learn because a lot of people were hidden 498 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: around it. You know, they were hidden, they were sheltered. 499 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: Their parents would smoke weed but they couldn't, and then 500 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: they smelt it and they didn't know what it was. 501 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 1: When they finally realized that, they're like, oh, my dad 502 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 1: does it, so what like it doesn't matter, and the 503 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: rebellion comes in. Yeah, But there's so much. There's so 504 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: much to that though, And I agree with you know, 505 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 1: being open and educating and talking, but we we can't 506 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: overlook the fact of the adolescent mind and understanding that 507 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: like the growth of the mind and and not taking 508 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 1: that is that is a free card to say, oh, 509 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna smoke all this weed and just whatever, 510 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: because there's always consequences and you always have to know that, 511 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: Like your brain is still developing, so you we don't 512 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: want to numb it out so that you're not taking 513 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 1: in emotion and understanding. There's always there's there's that uh 514 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 1: you know, that balance. I always want to make sure 515 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 1: what when Mark and Craig would say, and Craig would 516 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 1: jump all over it. Right now, when did you start 517 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 1: smoking weed? Mark? Cannabis? When do you start smoking? I started, Well, 518 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: I started heavily smoking when in law school. Okay, And 519 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 1: you're when did your brother he started heavily smoking. I 520 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: want to say probably when he was sixteen or seventeen. 521 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 1: So and he's still smoking, right, And he's an attorney. 522 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: He's an attorney. He has a great job. I mean, 523 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 1: he he has a great family. He holds it down. 524 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 1: And I'm I'm not agreeing with that, you know, I 525 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: think you're right, you know, Janet, But I'm just saying 526 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 1: for the argument's sake, there's plenty of people that will 527 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 1: argue in the cannabis industry, well, I've been smoking since 528 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: I'm sixteen, and I'm a brain surgeon, you know what 529 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: I mean. It's like what I've been smoking since I'm sixteen. 530 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 1: I'm not a brain surgeon, though, but I'm one of 531 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: the sixteen sences we always have to know are too 532 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 1: much of anything, is too much right? And understanding you 533 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 1: if you're going to be a smoker, understanding it too right. 534 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 1: Back then you know, if you go back to the 535 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty with talking about what you're saying, Mark, half 536 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: of the people there was no education, so they were 537 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 1: just doing what they were doing right because it made 538 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: him feel good. And so that that feeling that they 539 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: get is super important. But I also think it it 540 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,719 Speaker 1: numbs you. It numbs you a little bit, right. So 541 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 1: you know, one of the things that you know, I 542 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 1: I thoroughly love is is being sober. And a lot 543 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 1: of people don't understand that. So everybody's trying to push 544 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 1: stuff down my throat and I'm like, dude, I'm good 545 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 1: because what I like is being sober, like completely sober, 546 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: like I don't like having anything in my system and 547 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 1: I enjoy that, you know, I it's a high for me. 548 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 1: You know, if I don't smoke and I don't drink 549 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: and I don't do these things. I feel amazing. And 550 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 1: when I drink, I go I'm feeling drunk and I 551 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: know I'm drunk, and I like getting drunk, and I 552 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 1: like to smoke, but I don't, you know, but I 553 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 1: prefer being sober, you know. And I've I've understood that. 554 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 1: But a lot of people wouldn't. You know, a lot 555 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: of people like you should smoke all day and it's cool, 556 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 1: and I just don't want to smoke all day. I 557 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 1: like to get high when I feel like I want 558 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 1: to be high. Um, And so it's different for everything 559 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 1: to smoke all day or I won't be able to function. Sure, 560 00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: I'm the same as you. I'm the exact same day 561 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 1: and night, twenty four hours joke. No, but you've made 562 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: it a ritual in your life, you know. And for me, 563 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: it's like I have the same ritual. I I enjoy 564 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 1: being sober, you know what I mean? Like you know, 565 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 1: if I'm and when I do get high, there's a 566 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 1: there's a there's a time and place for me, you know, 567 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 1: And and like around a bunch of people or if 568 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: I'm working, I don't want to be high because when 569 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,959 Speaker 1: I when I smoke and i'm high, I don't perform 570 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 1: at the same pace. But I know that about myself 571 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 1: and I understand it, so I respect it. But if 572 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 1: and and I say that, and I produced probably some 573 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 1: of the best music of my life while I was 574 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 1: ripped and high, don't keep me wrong. And I was 575 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 1: smoking blunts daily and drinking and all that good stuff. 576 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 1: But and so it opens up another passageway as well. 577 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 1: But for me, you know, sobriety is the best possible scenario. 578 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 1: And not because I've ever had a drug addiction. Um, 579 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 1: I've I've seen plenty of my friends go through that. 580 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 1: Uh you know, how about you, Jinny. It's it's a 581 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: it's an interesting topic coming from a family with you know, 582 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 1: uh you know, had suicide in my family a couple 583 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 1: of times, different members, and dealing with you know, all 584 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: of those things you wonder, you know, what is cannabis? 585 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,320 Speaker 1: You know what are these drugs? What is being taught? 586 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:13,359 Speaker 1: What about the pharmaceuticals? And honestly, it's to me, I 587 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 1: feel like cannabis is like come in and it's like 588 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 1: helped me in my life. And I've got my own company. 589 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 1: I'm a founder of Skinny Weed. I'm you know, I 590 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 1: used to take pills for insomnia. I don't anymore, and 591 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 1: Canvas helped me. Did your insomnia totally go away? Or 592 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 1: just you just use cannabis for insomnia now I use? 593 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,359 Speaker 1: Uh not, Well, my insomnia has completely gone away. Now 594 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 1: do you think that's from your cannabis youth? Maybe healed 595 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 1: parts of your brain that wouldn't allow you to sleep. 596 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 1: I mean, I would love to say if i'm I'm 597 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 1: my own anecdotal evidence, I would say yes. But back 598 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 1: to what you were saying, it's you know, to be sober. 599 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 1: I mean, that's the ultimate that we all want to be, 600 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 1: to find our true harmony and balance and no matter 601 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,359 Speaker 1: what is. But some people need certain things to find that. 602 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 1: And it's a beautiful thing to be talking about all 603 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 1: of this subject because it does resonate and come in 604 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 1: different forms. Are medicine sure, No, And that's what I 605 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,360 Speaker 1: was saying. It is a medicine. And and but medicine 606 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,399 Speaker 1: for me isn't that I need to smoke it all day. 607 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 1: But I know plenty of other people that need that 608 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 1: medicine daily to exist in a in a normal atmosphere. 609 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 1: And some of that is because, um, they're more educated 610 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 1: than others. But maybe because they're they're they're a d 611 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 1: D or maybe because they're you know, they have illnesses 612 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 1: that hurt so bad that until they smoke, they feel well, 613 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 1: you know. And I get all those things, you know, 614 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,799 Speaker 1: I totally do. And and again for for myself, it's 615 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 1: just like when I look back and I go, man, 616 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:50,479 Speaker 1: you know, do I do? I think that I would 617 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 1: have got more accomplished if I wasn't as high through 618 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 1: you know, smoking every single day in the studios, you know, 619 00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 1: for for years and years and years. You know, for me, 620 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: I think I would have excelled further in a different direction, 621 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:05,879 Speaker 1: meaning that I would have been able to get more 622 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 1: things done that were more valuable than just the music. 623 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 1: Like I was doing just what I liked to do 624 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,800 Speaker 1: when I was high, not what I needed to do, 625 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 1: you know. And and but but there's plenty of people 626 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:17,959 Speaker 1: around me that we're doing what they needed to do 627 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,359 Speaker 1: and and getting high. But when I when I stepped 628 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 1: away from smoking every single day, every when I mean 629 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 1: waking bake tonight to sleep to everything, I I started 630 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 1: to adjust and I was capturing more things that need 631 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 1: to get accomplished for my career than just the music, 632 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: you know. For for at the time I was producing music, 633 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 1: I was in the studio with major artists and I'm 634 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 1: just bam and I could I could work fine. No 635 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 1: one really, you know, would know any difference. But I 636 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 1: was just focused on that thing that I enjoyed and 637 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,799 Speaker 1: it wasn't work, because when you love something, it's not work. 638 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 1: So it was it was kind of for me. It 639 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,359 Speaker 1: was a it was a growing period. And I love 640 00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:01,360 Speaker 1: where I'm at now that I can choose the time, 641 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 1: and I could choose the moment that I want to 642 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:09,799 Speaker 1: experience a different high. And that's a great thing about cannabis. 643 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,799 Speaker 1: For everybody, it's different. They figure it out for themselves. 644 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 1: And then we move into the late nine Who do 645 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 1: we got for the president? We got Clinton who experimented 646 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 1: but didn't inhale, and that started shaping television writers to 647 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 1: start softening the portrayal of cannabis. We see the stoner 648 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:33,760 Speaker 1: comedy seven, that seventy show, We're seeing it in there. 649 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:39,239 Speaker 1: And as the new millennium started, we start correcting some 650 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 1: of the negative stigma. So two thousand and TV, right 651 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 1: in two thousand one, South Park shows up and they 652 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 1: introduced the mascot, the cannabis mascot tally, but you know 653 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 1: he didn't he didn't really help when any advocates over 654 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:02,239 Speaker 1: like myself from Additional and bil use, because it was 655 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 1: just making fun of it. The show Weeds, right, we 656 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,160 Speaker 1: all we know the show Weeds are based on Dr 657 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 1: Dina Loose, but that centered all around you know, a 658 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:22,799 Speaker 1: suburban cannabis criminal empire, and so that even stigma, well 659 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 1: that's the big things. There's the there's there's you can 660 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,360 Speaker 1: take a conversation and turn it in so many ways. 661 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,719 Speaker 1: And I could just talk about how our country is 662 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,759 Speaker 1: doing that right now with with all parties, you know, 663 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,319 Speaker 1: and it's it's it's it's fun to watch because you know, 664 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 1: for me, it's a grain of salt. But for others, 665 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,359 Speaker 1: you know, they sit there and go, you know, oh, 666 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,600 Speaker 1: this is crazy. I can't believe you said that. And 667 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,920 Speaker 1: you're like, well, you took it out of context, you know, 668 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 1: and and they're like, no, I didn't you said it. 669 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 1: And it's like okay, and it has then and I'm 670 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,720 Speaker 1: not referring to our our president. I'm reprying it to life. 671 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 1: You know. I want to be clear about that, Like 672 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,759 Speaker 1: I'm because I don't want it to go out of context, 673 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:03,239 Speaker 1: you know. So it's difficult, but go ahead, Mark, well so, 674 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,319 Speaker 1: and that kind of brings me back to the show 675 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 1: I was watching. I started this whole thing with the 676 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 1: unicorn and how we're still seeing stoner stupid, stoner stupid stereotype. Well, yeah, 677 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,640 Speaker 1: you know, it's funny to stop you there, because it 678 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,400 Speaker 1: tripped me out. I said that the other day on 679 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,920 Speaker 1: clubhouse and someone was like, what do you mean stoner stupid? 680 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:24,600 Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay, let me let me re reiterate 681 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 1: this for you stupid. You know what I'm saying, because 682 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 1: you know, And I didn't hit him with that, but 683 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 1: I wanted to. And luckily I was firing on all 684 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 1: cylinders when he hit me, and I just I laid 685 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,400 Speaker 1: it out and everybody in the rooms clapping, you know 686 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 1: what I mean. But and then he apologizes, like you know, 687 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 1: in my d M. He's like, I'm sorry, dude, I 688 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 1: didn't mean to step on you like that, I mean, 689 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 1: you know, And he started backpedaling, and I'm like, look, 690 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 1: you know, if I'm seeing stoner stupid, everybody knows I'm 691 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 1: in the cannabis industry. I'm here for a reason, like 692 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 1: I know what I'm doing. I'm not here because you know, 693 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,960 Speaker 1: I want to uh, you know, be talking about gold. 694 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 1: I want to talk about cannabis gold. You know, it's 695 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,799 Speaker 1: very specific, so I mean no harm. But but we 696 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 1: all know if if I go, you're like, oh man, 697 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:11,040 Speaker 1: I'm so student, and everybody's like, bro, this is stupid, 698 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,280 Speaker 1: like because it's funny, it's it's it's it's a comical 699 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,359 Speaker 1: way of saying, you know something, So he just took 700 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 1: it the wrong way. But people, and there's a there's 701 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,400 Speaker 1: a space for that, and there's always going to be 702 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 1: a space for that. And you know, there shows like 703 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 1: Blue Bloods and you have a family who's having you know, 704 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 1: sitting around for their Sunday dinner and they're they're drinking 705 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:36,360 Speaker 1: whiskey and having conversations sipping wine. And you remember Boston Legal. 706 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:40,160 Speaker 1: Did you ever watch Boston Lee? Watch that Denny Crane 707 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,759 Speaker 1: right him and James Spader and William Chatterer would sit 708 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 1: at the end on the balcony with a cigar and 709 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 1: bourbon talking. Why not a joint in a bomb? Why 710 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,479 Speaker 1: can't they replace scenes with from wine glasses to joint 711 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:55,400 Speaker 1: with people just talking having normal conversation and not being stupid. 712 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,799 Speaker 1: That's what I would like to start seeing. And you know, 713 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,479 Speaker 1: there is one show I think it's the only show 714 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,719 Speaker 1: I think that's starting to move in that direction. There's 715 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,440 Speaker 1: a show on HBO called High Maintenance. Have you heard 716 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 1: of it? I? I have, but I haven't seen it. 717 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,360 Speaker 1: I've seen it, I've seen it. So the show follows 718 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:19,920 Speaker 1: a cannabis delivery man who's just referred to as the Guy, 719 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 1: and he makes his deliveries across present day Brooklyn and Manhattan. 720 00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 1: And what sets us apart from everything else that we've 721 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:30,640 Speaker 1: seen in the representation of cannabis is that it expressly 722 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:35,880 Speaker 1: does not focus on spoken cannabis, more interested in the 723 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 1: indie video syncratic personalities of the relationship that the guide 724 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 1: builds with the people he comes in contact with delivering 725 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:48,120 Speaker 1: the cannabis. And he's more like a therapist to his clientele. 726 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:52,280 Speaker 1: And this isn't a stone or comedy that glorifies getting 727 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 1: high while going to cheap class, but intellectual anthology that 728 00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 1: normalizes cannabis. By looking at from you are your reasons 729 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:05,239 Speaker 1: of why modern adults choose to consume? Well, there it 730 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,560 Speaker 1: is mark where we wanted to go and you know 731 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,120 Speaker 1: what with that. Guys, be kind to one another and 732 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,920 Speaker 1: remember this, it's Cannabis Talk one on one and if 733 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,880 Speaker 1: no one else loves you, wait, Thank you for listening 734 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:20,919 Speaker 1: to Cannabis Talk one on one on the I Heart 735 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:24,719 Speaker 1: Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.