1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: Wind down with Janet Kramer and I Heart Radio podcast. Okay, 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:11,799 Speaker 1: so we're back. UM. I wanted to give space, uh 3 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 1: for the experience of on site UM and I want 4 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: I wanted to bring UM this again to you guys. 5 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: This is the second half of the interview that we 6 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: did with Miles, and I just think it's UM. Yeah, 7 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: I'm excited for you guys to hear the second part 8 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: of this and UM getting the mindset and here you are, 9 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: here's the second half. So what are the programs because 10 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 1: I know there's the Living Centered, UM, I know the 11 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: one that I did, the Learning to Love Yourself has 12 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 1: now become healing, love and relationships, right, which is kind 13 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: of what I came in on with a group setting, 14 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: even though I was I was intensive. But and then 15 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: you have what are the other programs? You have? Living 16 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: Centers your most most popular one. That's the one I 17 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: would want you to do, Cat and you too, well, 18 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: I personally for me when I was talking to Miles, like, 19 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: I again, I've I've I've gone through the similar Living 20 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 1: Centered in the you know, learning to Love Yourself was 21 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: kind of like there was there was models from from that. 22 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: But if you don't know again, miles. Please correct me 23 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: if I'm wrong. But what I've kind of told my 24 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 1: friends is like, if you if you know your childhood 25 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: traumas and the things and all of that. Um, I 26 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: think in an individual for me was what I needed 27 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: because I wanted to pin I wanted to dig deeper 28 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: and some of the things that I already knew, which 29 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 1: is why I thought an individual would work better for me. 30 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: But if you don't really know certain things I don't know, 31 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong. You're you're the you do 32 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: you tell us which one is best for people. We've 33 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: got we've got a menu programs, and we've we've narrowed 34 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: the focus a little bit over the last couple of 35 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: years just because it's supply and demand. We've just got 36 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: such high demand right now, and we want to make 37 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: sure what we pull off we pull off really well. 38 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: And I want to preserve our staff so that we 39 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: don't create some of the burnout that we see in 40 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: the people we support, even though it's been hard last 41 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: two years because everybody in my profession has been churning 42 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 1: really hard. But uh, we've narrowed our focus. I stepped 43 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: out of day to day about a year ago. I 44 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: think I was telling you this, Janna when we were 45 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: checking in, so that I could step into our our 46 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 1: holding company and our foundation and run both of those 47 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: with a lot of new initiatives that we're building in 48 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: a five year plan to really scale up our programming, 49 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: so I'm not as familiar with which ones were actually running. 50 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: But there are the staples like learning our Living Centered program, 51 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 1: which is kind of a flagship program that we're known for. 52 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: It's kind of a five day catch all that anybody 53 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: going through any type of adversity, stress, transition, or just 54 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: looking for deeper insight. Uh, It's a great place to start. 55 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: I recommend it too, is a first step. Uh. There 56 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: is also Healing Trauma Program, which is a five day 57 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: trauma immersive group experience. It's also really powerful and sometimes 58 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: that's a better fit upfront. There's Love and Relationship program, 59 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,040 Speaker 1: which Jenna talked about, which is another really good and 60 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: then we do a lot of customized individual, couple, family 61 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 1: type stuff, but usually an assessment would help lay out 62 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: the best need in your case, Janet, we were talking 63 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 1: about in occasionally, if somebody follows up after they've done 64 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 1: a couple of group programs, you can really get laser 65 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: focused with an individual, but you'll miss a lot of 66 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: the other dynamics that the education. So I like it 67 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: as a follow up. But often if if somebody is 68 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: really public and what they do, uh, and I feel 69 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: like because they might have been through a press cycle, 70 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,119 Speaker 1: uh that and I really want to get the eyes 71 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: off of them, then I'll I'll suggest an individual just 72 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: to insulate them a little bit more. But I've also 73 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: put public people in groups and and done really well 74 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: as well. So I don't know if that helped or 75 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: confuse you more, But really the best step is get online, 76 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: read about some of our programs, see if anything kinda 77 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: feels relatable, and then let me get you on a 78 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: call with a trusted voice on our end to help 79 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: walk you through the process of assessing and figure out 80 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: how we could guide you in the right spot. That's great, 81 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: so good, so good you guys. Okay, so I have 82 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: done like the pre call with your staff to get 83 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: Preston and I this I'm telling you, like, we were 84 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: just so close. It was right down. Yeah, it was like, 85 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: you know, it's so much miles much time, do you 86 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: but um, it's all good. It's just that I worked 87 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: on the record label side of things. I married an artist, 88 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: which is something I said I would never ever do, 89 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 1: and it was all fast and it was all great, 90 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: but you know, I had a previous marriage before, and 91 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: so like when you speak of like this, the net 92 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: of having some of the fallout when when you're going 93 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: through divorce, like the net is crucial. So I just 94 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: want to echo that one more time. But when your 95 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: staff and I talked on the phone, and I'm very 96 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,799 Speaker 1: open to therapy, but I was a little intimidated because 97 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: I felt like, this is we're talking the first I 98 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: think the offer came in first, probably why I was 99 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 1: like even pregnant with my little boys. So we're talking 100 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: like four years ago, um, And I felt like now 101 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: it's gained such a good steam that so many people 102 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: recognize it as a place to go, like I have 103 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: never saw on site is something that's intimidating, but my 104 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: husband does and I've always seen it's like, first of all, 105 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 1: you have at five minute drive, and just the idea 106 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 1: of driving to open space does something for me in 107 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: my Michigan heart. Probably I know, um, but your staff 108 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: are so professional and so sweet, and just the questions 109 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: they went through on the phone with me, just everything 110 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 1: is so comfortable. You just make it feel safe from 111 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: like the first call, which I think just really matters. 112 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 1: I mean, you talk about the insulation, but the insulation 113 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: for me starts with how private it is, how it 114 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 1: felt very like you know, they didn't really no one 115 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: was asking me who Preston was or who I was. 116 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 1: It was more so like, Okay, so this is what 117 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: we're doing, and this is what you want to focus on. 118 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: It was just it's really a beautiful community of people 119 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,799 Speaker 1: you have there. So then what would it take for Preston, 120 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: Like what do you think there's something that like I 121 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 1: think now so he's with both of you know, Brian 122 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 1: Kelly and Tyler Hubbard and Tyler Hubbard. Both Brian and 123 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: Tyler have been very open. Those are the Florida Georgia 124 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 1: line guys for those that don't know country music. Um, 125 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: they've been very open about the benefits of on site. 126 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: And so I think now having that he's willing to go, 127 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 1: I would say, we're in a two thousand nineteen pace 128 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: right now, So I don't know that like it would 129 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: be the time for us is probably going to be 130 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: this winter, but I would love for us to go again. 131 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:28,359 Speaker 1: I feel like we're at a better place as a 132 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: couple to actually hear each other. We work with Chad 133 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: at Porter's Call pretty intimately, and so I think his 134 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: view now of therapy has like this healthier and like 135 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:42,679 Speaker 1: a more safe feeling for him. I mean, we can't 136 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: be married without Chad. I'm pretty public about that, so 137 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 1: I tell everyone Chad's coming to our anniversary dinner every 138 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: year because he's our guy. But I think I just 139 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: think the way that your people that love and support you, 140 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,799 Speaker 1: um Miles and on site are just so open about 141 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: what it's done. And I've seen in insane change in 142 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: Janna since this last on site, and I've said that 143 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: to her, like there is there's just a difference. It's 144 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: a really special difference progress and not that I'm the 145 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: judge of progress look at but it's just a different 146 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: certainty about her. There's a different knowing of who she 147 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: really is, not like what she's supposed to be. I 148 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: can't look at he right now, We'll both start crying. 149 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: But it's I've seen what you guys have done for people, 150 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: and it just it matters. Would you be open to 151 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: sharing that weatherr how I'm curious to hear it. But 152 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: I think it might even be better if you just 153 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: told her. I have told her, Um, I think for both, well, 154 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: here we go. I'm going to enroll with myself. No, 155 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: I just feel like I'm not ready for this. Today 156 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: we both have felt like lost girls. I think a 157 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: lot we have I need to like lock it up. 158 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: I'm also not a pretty crier. I told the girl. 159 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm not a pretty crier. Some of 160 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: us look like cartoons. And I was like, I'm in 161 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: a medical emergency. But um, I told her, I think 162 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: like Janna and I had bonded over the fact that 163 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: like we have missed the Michigan versions of ourselves, like 164 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: the simplified like small town, and this Nashville life has 165 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: or industry life has a way of like kind of 166 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:40,839 Speaker 1: sneakily robbing that from you. And so the biggest thing 167 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: I think I've seen and it was kind of ironic 168 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: because I had found these really super cute Michigan sweatshirts 169 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: for us, and it was ironic because it was after 170 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: she got back, But it was almost like a reminder 171 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: to both of us to just stay true to the 172 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: heart of it. I think, But I feel like I've 173 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: seen more of that girl in Janna over the last 174 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:05,359 Speaker 1: month or so than ever and just a lessoned control, 175 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: which I think the whole church that aim in um. 176 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: But yeah, like I've just seen the less anxious version 177 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: and I want to touch your hair, but you just 178 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: washed it. I want. Yeah, thanks for sharing that. That's uh. 179 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: I think it's it's one of the most And look, 180 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: I know we've we've talked a lot about on site here, 181 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: which I'm thankful for because I really believe in the mission. However, 182 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: it's it's bigger than one one place or one program. 183 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: The conversation I hope is encouraging not only for the 184 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: four of us that are here in it, but that 185 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: it would ripple out. And just because if you strip back, 186 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 1: you know, what do you guys do really at the 187 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: end of the day, We help people say the unset 188 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: and speak truth into themselves and into the people they 189 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 1: care about. And you just did that in a beautiful way. 190 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: And I think our in our you know, we're culturally 191 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: conditioned not to do that because we think we have 192 00:09:59,880 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: to look and feel a certain way. And uh, I 193 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: like breaking cultural norms, especially on behalf of pouring some 194 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: empathy into each other's hearts because right now there's a 195 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: there's a real void of that as you know out 196 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: in culture. And you mentioned you know the stress of 197 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: kind of being in your profession and and I don't 198 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: know if I've shared this with I don't I've shared 199 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: it with Jenna before, but kind of this artist or 200 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 1: creative's dilemma. And I've worked with a lot of artists 201 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 1: in all genres with this model, but now I'm seeing 202 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 1: it's very prevalent to you for those that are with 203 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: the artist or you know, spouses of artists or in 204 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: the artist camp because you know you're you're in that 205 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 1: environment to do right. I mean, it's like a not 206 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 1: what I would have signed up for for myself, right 207 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: and it very quickly it's you know, the artists or 208 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: creatives dilemma would go that public professions they create abnormal 209 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: life circumstance is and we could take a panel right 210 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: now and say what's abnormal about being public or or 211 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: building a platform to distribute art? And there's a lot 212 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: from the pace, uh you know, to um always being 213 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: always having to be, on being public, on and on 214 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: and on. Public professions create abnormal life circumstances we know 215 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: from our space and the Human Service Bus. Instead, abnormal 216 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: life circumstances create high levels of stress. We also know 217 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: that unaddressed stress creates anxiety, depression, uh strained relationships, addictions, etcetera. Ironically, 218 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: all of which kill creativity and connection. So the two 219 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: of the big attributes that bring people to the dance 220 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,319 Speaker 1: and the music space are their creativity and their ability 221 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 1: to connect. That's usually what gets you up in the morning, 222 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 1: keeps you up at night. And you're signing up for 223 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: a career that, if commercially successful, was designed to kill it, 224 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: and it's really interesting. Usually people lean forward and they're like, well, 225 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,199 Speaker 1: wait a minute, and but there's good news too. It's 226 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: not just daunting. It's just that most of the people 227 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: behind the career aren't going to tell you that up 228 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 1: front or just before they invest in launching you out 229 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: of a canyon to phone you out on radio tour 230 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:13,839 Speaker 1: of the single without spending and investing some time saying hey, 231 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 1: this is not just possible, it's probable, but there is 232 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: something we can do about it. You know, if you 233 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 1: know this, it goes from obstacle to opportunity. If we 234 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 1: can educate and inform me up front. Then you can 235 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: actually have a successful, sustainable career in a fast paced, 236 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: stressful environment and have yourself to show at the end 237 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: of it, not this personality you've created. And that's the 238 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 1: goal I think for any of us that do public 239 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: facing stuff. Where do you find yourself struggling because you 240 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 1: are so public? And um, what's what's the thing that 241 00:12:56,400 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: um you kind of see yourself revisiting a lot? Well, 242 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: this last two years, I've really done some deep reflection 243 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: on just that because I I made a choice. You know, 244 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 1: I think probably back when I met you, I had 245 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 1: not made the choice yet to be public in my profession. 246 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,839 Speaker 1: I was still felt like my best role as an 247 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:21,319 Speaker 1: advocate for mental wellness emotional health is to be behind 248 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: the curtain. And uh, you know, finally I started doing 249 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 1: a lot of media back in the day, and I 250 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: saw this this dangerous but enlightening intersection of mental health 251 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: and media where I would get some critique, you know, 252 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:37,599 Speaker 1: if I got if I went on The Doctors or 253 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:40,719 Speaker 1: Doctor Feel or any of these shows, and I'd get 254 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 1: some critique from my space because they'd be like, you 255 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 1: can't go on and talk about our work. It kind 256 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: of exploits it. And I said, well, if we don't 257 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: exploit it in a positive way, then we're going to 258 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 1: continue to complain about the stigma that those in our industry, 259 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 1: we're the one creating it because we box in our information. 260 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: We've got to figure out a way to get this 261 00:13:57,679 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: message out here in a better way. So I made 262 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: that choice Jenna back then that I'm gonna try this. 263 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: It's gonna be messy at times, but I'm gonna start 264 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: doing media. And you know, I flew out to l 265 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: A And did a show for a year, hosted a 266 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: show myself for Fox, and really learned a lot. But 267 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: the more public I got, the more uh, it got 268 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: really hard to practice a lot of what I've been preaching, 269 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:23,359 Speaker 1: so everything I've been saying and testing theories for public personalities. 270 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: When it got really close to home, I was like, Oh, 271 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: this is harder than I ever imagine. Now. The beauty 272 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: is that it was humbling, uh And I'm not Uh. 273 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: You know, my my goal is not necessarily to be 274 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: public too as for my job, because I've got a job, 275 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: and but but I've noticed that if I do put 276 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: myself out there, more people typically get encouraged or get 277 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: access to care. So I'm willing to go along for 278 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: that ride and getting ready to finish a book and 279 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: do stuff like that so I know more of its coming. 280 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: But I've really, uh, I really struggled to um manage 281 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: the pace because I'm guilty of when I feel stress 282 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: instead of if I put things down, I'll pick up 283 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: more than I'm putting down as a stress response. So 284 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: I found myself, uh, Janna, to answer your question over 285 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: working a little bit like during the pandemic, when I 286 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: had an opportunity to come home because we had to 287 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: shut things down. I I've wanted that for a long time, 288 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: to be home and be present and not have responsibility. 289 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: But I had this stress of like I gotta keep 290 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: eighty people employed with no income, and I wanted I 291 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: was determined to do it, and there was nothing I 292 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: could do at that time other than do what everybody 293 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: else did, which is less waited out and see what happens. 294 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: But I generated all this activity and got myself busier 295 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: than I was pre pandemic, and I thought, this is 296 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: a full stress response, and what does it do to me? 297 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: It invades my marriage, um, it impacts me as a father, UM, 298 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: it it gets me back in that space of survival, 299 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: which you know, we can get into my story a lot, 300 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: but that's where I started. I came from a really great, 301 00:15:56,920 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: well intended family that wasn't perfect, and we did a 302 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: lot of things well, but we didn't do emotion. And 303 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: and you know, I would say we were kind of 304 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: illiterate and around the emotional piece. But I'm so thankful 305 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: for the other parts. And now full circle, you know, 306 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: we've my parents are doing their best parenting now in 307 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: their seventies. It's remarkable how they're showing up because they 308 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: tap into that emotional piece. Yeah they've done they've gone 309 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: and done smon size stuff and um. But you know, anyway, 310 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: I went on a rent there. When he said what's 311 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: going on? I said a lot. You're sure you got 312 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: time for this, but I I when when I go 313 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: into that stress response, my immediate is to shut down emotion. 314 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: And you don't really get an integrated version of me. Uh, 315 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: you get this stoic, disconnected version of me. And my 316 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: wife's got a really good radar for it. She knows 317 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: when that guy shows up at home versus the present. 318 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: You know, Dad and I would say I've done more 319 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: of that in the last two or three years, and 320 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: I'm proud of and it's created, and it's created quite 321 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: a bit of distraction in my life. I lost a 322 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: little focus for it, lost sleep over it. Now here's 323 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: the good news is Um, you know it's not I 324 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 1: say this all the time in our space. Carlos, a 325 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: guy that works for says it all the time. It's 326 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: it's not about the rip. It's really about the repair. 327 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: And so when that comes to relationships and how you 328 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: pursue you will never do this perfectly like people sometimes think. 329 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: Because I work in this space, I'm armed with all 330 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: these tools and I must live this perfectly congruent life. 331 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 1: And some days, yes, but some days I'm just a 332 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 1: hot mess, just like everybody else. And but I'm I'm 333 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: a hot mess that has tools and and and the 334 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: lag time between how long I'll let life run me 335 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: versus me reclaiming my life has short has gone from 336 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: this to this over the years. So when I do 337 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 1: have a setback, Um, it doesn't take me three months 338 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: to notice it. It takes me like three days and 339 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I better double down, We better do 340 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 1: a little work around this, or else it could get 341 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: it could get really really tough. That's going to my 342 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 1: new Instagram handle, hot Mess with Tools, my new dating 343 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: dating profile, hot Mess with the Duels hot Mess No. 344 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 1: I love I love what you said though, and I 345 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: think it's um yeah, I think that's beautiful. And I 346 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 1: love the family system in that too, and how you 347 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: know you were raised in something and then you know 348 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: your parents, you're you're able to see, you know, the 349 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: version that you've kind of always wanted. And then but 350 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,199 Speaker 1: you also see how why you were the way that 351 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: you were because your parents weren't emotional and you didn't 352 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 1: talk about emotions. And I know Catherine is connecting. I 353 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 1: kind of looked at you when he said that because 354 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 1: it's like that's you know, and and to see maybe 355 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 1: what your kids will have experience like with Myles experienced 356 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 1: as a kid. It was actually huge to hear because 357 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: like that's what gets me. It's like being the parent, 358 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: like doing that again, like to my kids, that's what 359 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 1: will make me cry. So that is probably why I 360 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: will end up in on site. But you know, but 361 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 1: what a gift you'll give to so that way, I mean, Miles, 362 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: you know, he was in that home and it's like 363 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:56,479 Speaker 1: hearing that, like what it can be like to not 364 00:18:56,600 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: have that emotion and talk about it that's affected certain things, 365 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 1: And like, I'm shocked to hear that about you, like 366 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,400 Speaker 1: that you come from a home that doesn't talk about emotions, 367 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: you know. I mean, it's it's good to hear that, though, 368 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 1: because I'm just used to people like me that still 369 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 1: don't really like to talk about emotions. You know, they 370 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: grew up that way. So I think it's more common 371 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: than you think. I mean, i'd honestly say that's why 372 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: my husband's probably was intimidated at first, I see. And 373 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 1: that's why I say I joke around a lot like 374 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 1: that I'm was the guy in the relationship. It's really 375 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 1: just because I feel like I find more men that 376 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 1: are that way they don't like to talk about their emotions. 377 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: But I mean, I'm finding a lot more women too, 378 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 1: But that's kind of like the more common thing for sure. 379 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 1: I think something you guys do really special, Miles, is 380 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: you also just provide like the gift of time to 381 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: people at on site. And that's one thing I just 382 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,120 Speaker 1: wanted to like make sure I pointed out, because I 383 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: think this world is first of all, we like opened 384 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 1: back up, and we like quadruple booked ourselves, which is 385 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 1: the burnout and in the exhaustion, and all of us 386 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: are in this like twenty nineteen pace with you know, 387 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: are in mind. But when you gift people time with themselves, 388 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 1: that's why it's never been intimidating. I guess to me 389 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: is just because I'm like, oh gosh, what I wouldn't 390 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,880 Speaker 1: give for someone to just actually protect my own time 391 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 1: with myself is how I've always envisioned on site. Well, 392 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,479 Speaker 1: that's why I love the The first day of not 393 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 1: having any phone or it was very hard to give 394 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: that up because what do you what do I do 395 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: at night when I go to my Instagram or I 396 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: scroll or I text you guys or anyan us, Like 397 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 1: I'm really nervous. It's like a long time. Well I know, 398 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: and this is like that's you know. That was my 399 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 1: way of you know, coping with maybe anxiety or coping 400 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,919 Speaker 1: with um my loneliness, or coping with and was was 401 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 1: the cell phone, was the internet? Was was you guys 402 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: and um And I will tell you when that what 403 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: fifth day hit to get my phone, I was like 404 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:01,120 Speaker 1: I don't want it back. I don't I literally did 405 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 1: not want my phone back. I want to talk to 406 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,160 Speaker 1: you guys, but I didn't want to sign back on Instagram. 407 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: I didn't want I literally like was just like I loved. 408 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 1: I loved who I was without all the distraction. I 409 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: loved my book I read. I loved the community. I 410 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: loved having a conversation without someone and them not picking 411 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: up their phone and going huh yeah, like to actually 412 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 1: have like normal conversations and just be And I think 413 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: that's when you said like the anxious thing, which that 414 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 1: was one of the things that I've noticed the most 415 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: about myself. But also I learned intention and just um, 416 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: really being intentional was something that I took away from 417 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 1: that as well as and just just being peace, like 418 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: just having peace and just being settled and sitting in 419 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: you know now um because mymer therapists like start going 420 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: on walks without your phone and I was like, oh, Amy, 421 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: that's not happening. But then I got back from month's 422 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 1: I walk without my phone was not dangerous. Well as 423 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: to around the neighborhood. Yeah, like I'll just you know, 424 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: run or whatever. But it's like just the distraction is 425 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: just a lot. So I I personally loved that time 426 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: for myself. I did you to be with yourself? Right? 427 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: I mean like when on your phone, you're not focused 428 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: on yourself whatsoever. And then was like what the forces. 429 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 1: But the funniest thing of this was Miles. I was like, 430 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 1: how am I going to get so they have these 431 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 1: alarm clocks. I was like, I don't know how to 432 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 1: use this thing. Back in the days of or the 433 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,120 Speaker 1: Oregon Trail, I got looked at it. Go get someone 434 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: to show me how to use this alarm clock. I 435 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: was pretty sure I'm not making like I'm not gonna 436 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: wait watch listen I did. I did a one day 437 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,880 Speaker 1: grief retreat and I managed everyone's expectations that I wasn't 438 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 1: going to be on my phone, and I did one 439 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:48,959 Speaker 1: full day. So I feel like I could do it 440 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: now I've tried. What what Jan is describing is. It 441 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 1: is almost across the board. It used to be one 442 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: of our biggest obstacles or disadvantages, the fact that we 443 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,239 Speaker 1: decided to do a digital plan there digital detox. When 444 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:05,360 Speaker 1: you're with us and there were people you known years ago, 445 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: they wouldn't come over that. They're like, no way, I'm 446 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 1: not coming to give up my phone now. We've seen, 447 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: just as we've seen the paradigm starting to shift a 448 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: little bit around people coming to pursue their work. That's 449 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:17,959 Speaker 1: starting to open up and it's not as much stigma. 450 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: There's still some, but people now are like they'll they'll 451 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 1: call and be like, I don't want to do anything therapy, crap. 452 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 1: I'm just coming to give you my damn phone and 453 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: then driveway up. That's the kunk out of or an 454 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: opportunity now. But they but I will say everybody goes 455 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: through that digital detox. It takes about we need to 456 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: research it to get the number down, but I'm just 457 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: a yeah, yeah, about twenty fourty eight hours and then 458 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 1: ninety plus percent do not want it back. I mean, 459 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: they want to talk to their kids and family, but 460 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:53,959 Speaker 1: they do not want that constant, invasive distraction. And that's 461 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: that's a big part of it. In in today's culture, 462 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,360 Speaker 1: we just we have a deaf set of self awareness. 463 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: And I think a good dose of self awareness and 464 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: empathy could just change the world if we could do 465 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 1: it collectively. But the brain doesn't have the opportunity to 466 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: heal itself unless you can see itself. And the only 467 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,199 Speaker 1: way it sees itself is if we can limit distraction, 468 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 1: limit medicators thing we used to numb out our brain 469 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,120 Speaker 1: and slow down enough that we can be in real 470 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: time with ourselves and other people. That's the biggest That's 471 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: a bigger part of the gift is any therapy you'll 472 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: do there is just limiting distractions. Miles aware can our 473 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 1: listeners find everything that you do? Um and everything that 474 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: you're working on because you have so much to offer, 475 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 1: and like you said, there's other spaces to like if 476 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 1: people want to go through um you know a thirty 477 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: day talks and so where where can people find everything 478 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 1: that you're that you're doing and helping people? Well, thanks 479 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,360 Speaker 1: for asking that. Uh. Well, on site Workshops is our 480 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 1: website on site workshops dot com and uh, you can. 481 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: I'm on Instagram. Um, I don't spend as much time 482 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: as they tell me I should. I just have a 483 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 1: hard time with that relationship. So but it's at Miles 484 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 1: ad Cox. I do talk about some of our stuff 485 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,679 Speaker 1: there and write a lot there. Uh And at on 486 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: site Workshops we've got a team managing that. So there 487 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: are a lot more active and if you are on socials, 488 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: it's a positive place you can go to get encouragement 489 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,439 Speaker 1: versus distraction, and it will also invite you into some 490 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 1: of our programming and what we do. It will also 491 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:24,719 Speaker 1: help your algorithm on Instagram. Yeah, if you like, well, 492 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,360 Speaker 1: if I follow you follow on site, then I start 493 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: to get other like really good nuggets of information accounts 494 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: and not like you know by this trying of bikini, 495 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,439 Speaker 1: Is there one thing you want to leave people with? 496 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: If there's one thing, there's one thing that you learn 497 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 1: that you want to leave us with people listening, what 498 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 1: would that be? Well, I think when people think of 499 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: and again, I know we spend a lot of time 500 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 1: talking about what I do and talking about on site, 501 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 1: but this, this conversation I hope is is heard differently. 502 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: It's not really about a place or a program. It's 503 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: more about you and investing in what I feel you deserve, 504 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 1: which is living into the best version of who I 505 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 1: know you can be. I don't know a human on 506 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: the planet that that escapes adversity, and everybody escape. Everybody 507 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:13,919 Speaker 1: experiences adversity, Everybody experiences stress, but not all of us 508 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 1: have a natural out thet to offload it. And if 509 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: it compounds it, it just becomes trauma and it impacts 510 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 1: us later on, invades our relationships and lives, and it's 511 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,719 Speaker 1: happened to me, it will happen to me again. And 512 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm on the planet just to help 513 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 1: people get reconnected to who they are. So if you're 514 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:33,239 Speaker 1: thinking about pursuing a place like on Site, or if 515 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: you need another mental health resource, you may be in 516 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: a season of struggle and stress, and you may be 517 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: in a season of things are going great. I'm just 518 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: curious either way, don't think of it as a punitive 519 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: experience or you know, it's what's wrong with you. I 520 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:48,679 Speaker 1: said that in the beginning, it's really what's right with you, 521 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: and it's not. I said it was an emotional wellness 522 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 1: retreat experience. But really, at the end of the day, 523 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: it's just human school. And when we learned to become 524 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: more humane to ourselves, we become more humane to other people. 525 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: And I think that rested peak creates a better humanity. 526 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,919 Speaker 1: So and we just don't have natural places in our 527 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 1: education system to learn about emotional intelligence and how how 528 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: to be a better human, how to do relationships better, 529 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 1: how to lead better. And so that's that's what I'm 530 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: on the planet to do. In part has helped create 531 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 1: some of those resources, and so they're out there. They're 532 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: in a lot of places. We've got some and and 533 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,959 Speaker 1: ours aren't always accessible. We've got some, as Jena mentioned 534 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:28,880 Speaker 1: in the beginning, we've got some UH Foundation UM initiatives. 535 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 1: We just had a group there last week. They were 536 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: all completely covered for free that we're all survivors and 537 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,120 Speaker 1: mass shootings. That we took a week of programming. UH. 538 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: Can I share a thirty second story? Please? Please, issue. 539 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,439 Speaker 1: I want you to share. I can don't care if 540 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 1: this one goes for five hours. I love just everything 541 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: you share. So I'm so passionate about our Foundation programs 542 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,919 Speaker 1: UM and we what we'll do is close the campus 543 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 1: for a week and just invite vulnerable populations that don't 544 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 1: have the means to come and be able and give 545 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 1: them a world class experience. And we just did one 546 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: UM and there was a friend of mine there who's 547 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: an artist in another genre. Now I say another genre. 548 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 1: Those of you that are listening to this, not all 549 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 1: of you live in Nashville and live around the country. Genre. 550 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,360 Speaker 1: I just spent a lot of time there as these folks. 551 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: But he's in another genre, much bigger genre, and it's 552 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 1: had a significant commercial success. Is a brilliant guy. And uh, 553 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: once a year before he heads out on an album 554 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 1: release or a tour, he he wants to come to 555 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: a tune up. And it just so happened it landed 556 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 1: alongside this program, the Triumph over Tragedy program. And I 557 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: didn't realize those overlapped. I was actually out of town 558 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: when he was there, but he Uh, one night in 559 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: our dining area restaurant, he picked up a guitar. He's 560 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: by himself, everyone was gone, the building was empty, and 561 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 1: he picked up a star and started to play, and 562 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: there was a young woman that came in, and uh, 563 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 1: he asked him if she could sit down, and he 564 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: said sure, and just assumed it was probably somebody who 565 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 1: knew who he was. Um, it turns out she didn't. 566 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: And um, they he played for like an hour for her, 567 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 1: as my understanding, and or just played for an hour. 568 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: She was there, You didn't know we'd planned for her. 569 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 1: But the next and then they left, and then the 570 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: next day, Um, she approached him tearfully and said, hey, 571 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: I just want to thank you. And again he assumed, 572 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: probably thinking her for the private concert from somebody like him. 573 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: But it wasn't that. He said, I want to thank 574 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: you because I never thought I'd be able to hear 575 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 1: live music again after experiencing Root ninety one Harvest Festival, 576 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 1: and this is the first time I've set and heard 577 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 1: live music, and I think it changed my life. And uh, 578 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: that was not something that we created. That was something 579 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 1: that I could only give credit to God, and that 580 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 1: is something bigger than us created. We just put together 581 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: an environment where people can be authentic and be real. 582 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: And we could have probably done all the therapy in 583 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: the world, and I'm not sure we could have created 584 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 1: the experience for that young woman who who got something 585 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: stolen from her that day and she got she got 586 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: to reclaim it um and and for him, he was like, hey, 587 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: you know, he said, I don't I don't know what 588 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 1: I came for. But if all I came for was 589 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: to get that, that's the most important performance I've ever 590 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: done in my life. So I just to get to 591 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: swim in waters like that where you get to hear 592 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 1: and see miracles every day is such a gift and 593 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 1: I'm just grateful to be a part of it, to 594 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 1: be representing such a great team. And anyway, I don't 595 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 1: know why I wanted to share that story. Beautiful, you 596 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: know there's that's as we're all weeping. I know it's 597 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: beautiful though, but it kind of you know, this is 598 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: similar to the music piece. But there was a few 599 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: people that could play guitar when we were doing UM. 600 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 1: When I was there, and so we were out back, 601 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:51,959 Speaker 1: and I had I told myself that I would go 602 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: back to my room every night and just you know, 603 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 1: read my book UM in journal, and some nights I did. 604 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 1: The other nights, I'm like, again, I just became you 605 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: become like such a commun to do that. You just 606 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: want to hang out with these people and and and 607 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: laugh and play games and UM. One of the nights, UH, 608 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: they were playing guitar to two of the guys and UH, 609 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: one of the other girls UM was started we started 610 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: singing like worship songs, and so we started singing way 611 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: Maker and um with a beautiful name. And one of 612 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 1: the girls that was there, I noticed that she started crying. 613 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: And when we were done, I was like, I asked her. 614 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 1: I was like, okay, and she goes, I've had the 615 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: worst relationship with the church, and that's one of the 616 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: reasons why I'm here and she goes, I've never sat 617 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 1: down to listen to worship music. I've always stormed out. 618 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 1: She's like, this is the first time where I felt 619 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: like peace to like stay and like I actually like 620 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: listened to and hear it. And so she was like 621 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 1: that was awesome. And so it was just like something 622 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 1: that music can do to to like really just because 623 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:49,959 Speaker 1: she was just like, this is one that was one 624 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: of the reasons why she was there. She hated the 625 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: church and she wanted to reclaim and she's like, I've 626 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 1: I've never I've always gotten up always, and she was 627 00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 1: just like there was just something just hearing these like 628 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 1: the X and you guys and like who you guys 629 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: are as people and the safety like yeah, it was 630 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: safe for her because it was never safe, like she 631 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: grew up in this cult. So and that's the that's 632 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 1: I love hearing that. And that's the idea that the 633 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 1: last I guess takeaway I would share is that it's 634 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 1: safety I've learned is not in in for years, I 635 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: would I would say the opposite. I would be like, hey, 636 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 1: create safe people if I and I've learned that safety 637 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: doesn't it's not really an external proposition. It doesn't fully 638 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: exist out there, but you can create it in here. 639 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 1: And I'm pointing out my heart for those that can't 640 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: see me. I think you can do the work to 641 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: clean clean your heart and and and increase safety. And 642 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: when you've got safety on board for you, you can 643 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: go into imperfect and unsafe environments when you're going to 644 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: experience those, even in mental health places, and and and 645 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,959 Speaker 1: come out with your feet on the ground and taking 646 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 1: what you can and leaving the rest. And I just 647 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 1: I love hearing when experiences happened like that, that happened 648 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 1: organically that we don't create. And a lot of people, 649 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 1: it's amazing how many people you have to come that 650 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: have struggled with their faith or their relationship. And people 651 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: know I've been a little more outspoken to my faith. 652 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 1: So people assume we're a faith based organization, and I 653 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: want to say that too, that we're not a We're 654 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: not faith based. We are faith inclusive. That means we 655 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 1: don't exclude people for what they do and don't believe. 656 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 1: We believe everybody's welcome. And you can you can feel 657 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: comfortable there if if you follow a certain belief system 658 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 1: and have a religious beliefs, and you can be an 659 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: atheist and feel just as welcome and comfortable there. Yeah, no, 660 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: I remember that for sure. When I came the twelve 661 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 1: years ago, however long I was was because at the 662 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 1: time I had a real bad relationship and I was like, 663 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: why would I pray to a father? Father has always 664 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 1: been the one to let me down, like fat. But 665 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 1: then from there is when I kind of got the 666 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 1: idea of like, Okay, my God might just look a 667 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: little more different than other people's God the most of 668 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 1: my higher power. But I started with higher power and 669 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: then it's you know, obviously led me into my you know, 670 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 1: Christian life now baptized, and that that was the start 671 00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 1: of my journey of faith, was going down site um 672 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 1: And again y'all didn't push it on me at all. 673 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 1: It was more like, let's just find some kind of 674 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,239 Speaker 1: higher power. What does that person look like to you? 675 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 1: Is it a lake? Is it a is it is 676 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 1: it a grandfather? Is that you know where it's like? 677 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: If and so that they don't they don't push on you. 678 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 1: But this last go around, it was God was in 679 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: the room with me. Because I've found that now, So 680 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: I think that the journey of that too, is was 681 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 1: a beautiful thing. And I love that you said that, 682 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 1: like it's not You're definitely inclusive, but you don't force 683 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: it so that journey and everybody should hear this, regardless 684 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 1: if you're thinking about on site or not. Right now 685 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 1: because the world is a little bit burned out. The 686 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 1: world is really stressed. Every statistic is up in every 687 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 1: mental health category. I've never seen anything quite like it. Um. 688 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 1: But I also have followed the human experience over time. 689 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 1: I've done research and due diligence, I've walked with a 690 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 1: lot of people through challenging circumstances. And we will and can, 691 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 1: I believe, come out of this better than we came 692 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,040 Speaker 1: into it. I think there's an opportunity. It's hard to 693 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 1: you right now because it feels like I could get 694 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 1: much worse. We've got wars going on and uh, the 695 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 1: economy and we just came out of a global pandemic 696 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 1: and everything is up. Uh. But but I can. I've 697 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 1: got I've got both um the fear of where we are, 698 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 1: but I'm leading with some optimism of what I've seen 699 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 1: around human beings and how we have the ability to 700 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 1: change and come back together. And I kind of think 701 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 1: we're headed there. I think we're asking better questions. You know, 702 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 1: when I used to when I was burned out, I 703 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 1: would immediately saying what's wrong with my job? And I don't. 704 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,839 Speaker 1: I don't ask the question what's missing at work when 705 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 1: I feel burned out, I say what's missing from home, 706 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 1: what's missing in life? And those are great questions, not 707 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 1: daunting questions, are just great curious questions. And I've always 708 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 1: found on the other end of that thread that I've 709 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 1: become better when I lean in and just want to 710 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 1: learn who I am and how I'm impacting me and 711 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 1: the people around me. And I think you guys can too. 712 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 1: So I just love that you guys are talking about this. 713 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 1: It's been a treat and I appreciate it, you guys 714 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 1: having me. Yeah, Myles, I just you know how much 715 00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 1: I love you, and I love all the work that 716 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 1: you do. And I'm just I'm so glad to have 717 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,879 Speaker 1: you as a friend and um and the community that 718 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 1: you've um you know that you've built to help so 719 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 1: many people, I mean just so many people, and it's um, 720 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 1: it's just such a gift what you give people. And 721 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 1: I just really and what you know, the p you 722 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 1: were so the therapist you bring in like you're so 723 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,800 Speaker 1: you were so um intentional with who you paired me 724 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 1: up with, and you know that's just like it's just 725 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,280 Speaker 1: such a gift of what you do and how intentionally 726 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 1: you are with things. And so I just I'm excited 727 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 1: to for your books. I'm excited for everything you do. 728 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 1: And UM, I hope everyone follows, follows along and UM 729 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 1: gives them, gives them the what's the the fitness? What 730 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 1: was what was your emotional fitness from the O G 731 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 1: from them? To thank you the O G for this conversation. 732 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,399 Speaker 1: Oh take it. I don't need the credit, but I'll 733 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 1: take it. Thank you Miles so much. You're so sweet, 734 00:36:55,120 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you all right, You're the best. Yeah, 735 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 1: oh man, just take a deep breath. Man, that like 736 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,759 Speaker 1: root in any one story, just like because it's so 737 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 1: true though, because you will, you will have an experience 738 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,799 Speaker 1: with someone that gives you a gift when you're there. 739 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,319 Speaker 1: You will. And that's like it's like what that one 740 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 1: girl got, like she got when when she listened to 741 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 1: the music, or that you know, both of them, it's 742 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:34,840 Speaker 1: like there's there's something, there's a gift in something that 743 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 1: someone will give to you and then yeah, I gotta 744 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 1: love that place, and let's I think we should go 745 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:45,319 Speaker 1: and have a little lunch there. Maybe one day, eat 746 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 1: some of the sonic ice. I can show you because 747 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,799 Speaker 1: I threw um, it's like visiting your school before you go, 748 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 1: Catherine exactly, Kristen. But no, I think like there's this, um, 749 00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 1: there's this really beautiful together. No, but there was this 750 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 1: really beautiful stream that I did some insane healing work 751 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 1: because I didn't realize UM when I went there, Like 752 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,240 Speaker 1: I knew I had all my stuff, but I didn't 753 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:18,239 Speaker 1: realize how much shame I was holding onto. UM. I 754 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 1: thought shame was yeah, something that like I did something wrong, 755 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 1: But I had so many shame messages that that's what 756 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,920 Speaker 1: I think maybe, And that's where I think the anxious 757 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,400 Speaker 1: part of me came in was because I was trying 758 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,400 Speaker 1: to be like, um, double down for them. But I 759 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 1: didn't realize that at the time. UM. And so I 760 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,799 Speaker 1: did this amazing experiential thing at a stream and it 761 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 1: was just I mean I burned stuff, I threw things, 762 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:49,239 Speaker 1: I slammed down on UM. I had this like that, 763 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 1: like I mean I went to town, um, but it's 764 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 1: just like, yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna speak more on 765 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 1: it eventually. I'm writing a lot of stuff on it 766 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 1: right now about like what I went through there, but 767 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:08,440 Speaker 1: I'm still holding like lots of sacred space for it. Good. Yeah, um, 768 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,280 Speaker 1: but it was. But I do I notice a shift 769 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:15,279 Speaker 1: in me from leaving that place. Camer Way calmer, Yeah, 770 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 1: way calmer. Um. But I love you guys, and I'm 771 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:22,799 Speaker 1: excited to go to on site. I feel like I 772 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,440 Speaker 1: just had a big, warm hug. I feel good? Does 773 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:26,839 Speaker 1: feel good? How do you feel in about a cap? 774 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,400 Speaker 1: I feel good? Yeah? That was good. That was helpful, 775 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:33,920 Speaker 1: that's for sure. Yeah. Alright, guys, We'll see you next week. 776 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:34,360 Speaker 1: See you