WEBVTT - COVID Everywhere 0:00:11.880 --> 0:00:14.920 Good morning, peeps, and welcome to Okay f Daily would 0:00:15.000 --> 0:00:19.000 meet your girl, Danielle Moody recording from the Brooklyn Bunker. 0:00:20.040 --> 0:00:25.239 You know, I am really tired of folks like Bill Maher, 0:00:26.400 --> 0:00:32.120 like Barry Weiss, like Joe Rogan, and many many others 0:00:32.320 --> 0:00:40.240 who have these huge media platforms, millions, hundreds of millions, 0:00:40.320 --> 0:00:45.360 tens of millions of people following, watching, retweeting, sharing the 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:48.960 shit that these people say, when in fact, they have 0:00:49.200 --> 0:00:54.240 absolutely no care or thought to how their words are 0:00:54.440 --> 0:01:01.400 affecting or infecting our toxic political climate. So, for instance, 0:01:02.680 --> 0:01:07.440 Bill Maher went on his show as well as onto 0:01:07.920 --> 0:01:13.120 the view, lamenting about how exhausted he is from COVID, 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:16.639 how it just needs to be done. Barry Weiss talked 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:19.720 about how, you know, clearly the vaccines. You know, they 0:01:19.800 --> 0:01:21.520 told us that we were just going to be able 0:01:21.560 --> 0:01:23.440 to go back to normal once we got them, and 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:26.560 that's not the case. So you know, fuck it, I'm 0:01:26.600 --> 0:01:31.680 done with COVID or you know, Joe Rogan and his bullshit. Right, 0:01:31.760 --> 0:01:34.880 and you have folks, I guess one hundred and fifty 0:01:34.959 --> 0:01:38.759 or some odd doctors, medical professionals, nurses have all signed 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:42.360 on to a letter sending to Spotify, which is the 0:01:42.400 --> 0:01:46.240 host of the platform host for Joe Rogan Show, to say, 0:01:46.240 --> 0:01:48.080 we're not telling you to take him off the air, 0:01:48.160 --> 0:01:51.720 but we are saying, is what are you doing right 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:56.280 to combat this misinformation? Like what kind of warnings can 0:01:56.360 --> 0:01:59.200 you produce before his show or after his show or 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:02.480 book end to make sure that their people can go 0:02:02.960 --> 0:02:07.440 to an actual professional and actual medical expert to get 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:11.640 their medical advice from as opposed to this man, I 0:02:11.680 --> 0:02:16.800 cannot believe, you know, it always pisses me off. And initially, folks, 0:02:16.840 --> 0:02:20.399 I'll be honest, I thought that it was just like jealousy, right, 0:02:20.800 --> 0:02:23.600 like what is it that these people are doing? Why 0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:27.559 they command so much attention and have so many followers, 0:02:27.600 --> 0:02:29.680 and you know, what is it that I need to 0:02:29.720 --> 0:02:33.919 do in order to get to that space? Because for me, 0:02:34.040 --> 0:02:38.680 building a platform and building up a following has never 0:02:38.760 --> 0:02:41.680 been a sadly right because I guess I'm just not 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:46.480 motivated by capitalism. Has never been about making the most money. 0:02:46.480 --> 0:02:48.840 There are plenty of things that I can do that 0:02:49.080 --> 0:02:53.960 wouldn't be this right, but it has always been about 0:02:54.000 --> 0:02:57.840 the fact that I believe that I want people to 0:02:57.880 --> 0:03:02.280 be as informed as possible. Want folks to make informed decisions. 0:03:02.320 --> 0:03:06.919 I want an informed and activated citizenury. But then there 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:12.000 are other people that get into this work under the 0:03:12.160 --> 0:03:15.400 guise of politics or under the guise of having a 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:20.080 you know, adding to the public discourse, but that they're 0:03:20.080 --> 0:03:24.720 truly just about entertainment and dollars, right. And maybe it's 0:03:24.720 --> 0:03:27.720 because I've never had the access to that kind of 0:03:27.720 --> 0:03:31.760 platform or dollars that I'm not driven by that. But 0:03:31.800 --> 0:03:37.640 there must be some responsibility, some accountability right for people 0:03:37.880 --> 0:03:43.119 who do have that kind of access and abuse it. 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:47.560 You know, I watched it, and if you haven't seen it, 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:51.160 you should, And it was sent to me by one 0:03:51.160 --> 0:03:54.640 of my followers, the clip of Barry Weiss on the 0:03:54.720 --> 0:03:58.520 Bill Mars Show, you know, and I just was so 0:03:58.600 --> 0:04:03.040 fucking pissed off when I was watching it. And you know, 0:04:03.320 --> 0:04:06.040 I get it, folks, and Jonathan and I will talk 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:09.600 about this later in the show. I get it. I'm 0:04:09.640 --> 0:04:12.800 fucking tired. I just said to a friend, I like, 0:04:13.560 --> 0:04:17.200 I don't want to cook anymore. But I have been 0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:22.800 staying home because I decided that until you know, New York, 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:27.000 until New York City was in a more stabilized place 0:04:27.040 --> 0:04:30.400 where I felt comfortable. I wasn't getting on public transportation. 0:04:30.960 --> 0:04:35.520 I wasn't going to dine indoors, and I wasn't going 0:04:35.640 --> 0:04:39.440 to you know, go into situations and places that required 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:42.279 me to take my mask off or be around a 0:04:42.320 --> 0:04:46.240 lot of people. That is unnecessary. Right, So for me, 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:52.239 it's I have access to a wonderful studio, but until 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:56.200 I feel safe taking the train every single day with 0:04:56.480 --> 0:04:58.919 you know a bunch of strangers who you do not 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:04.280 know what their protocol is. It's mandatory in New York 0:05:04.320 --> 0:05:07.320 to wear a mask on public transit, but most people, 0:05:08.040 --> 0:05:10.200 at least the last time that I was taking the train, 0:05:10.240 --> 0:05:12.320 which was well over a month and a half ago, 0:05:13.080 --> 0:05:15.760 people were abiding by that. But then you have those 0:05:15.800 --> 0:05:18.280 folks that either don't wear a mask at all or 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:23.240 wear it as a chin strap still, right, So taking 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:26.840 having the privilege and ability to move myself out of 0:05:26.839 --> 0:05:32.800 these spaces, you know, is not without its frustrations. You Know, 0:05:32.880 --> 0:05:35.000 there are days when I wake up and I feel 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:40.279 like we should just have a dedicated hour of every 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:43.640 single day where we are free to go into the 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:48.039 street or into your backyard and just fucking scream, right like, 0:05:48.279 --> 0:05:52.880 just get it out, just you know, go out. Everyone's 0:05:52.920 --> 0:05:56.400 doing it at the same time every day at you know, 0:05:56.520 --> 0:05:59.720 at six thirty six thirty wherever the fuck you are, 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:03.839 six thirty Eastern time because I'm Eastern standard bias. You 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:06.919 go out and you can just scream. No one's going 0:06:07.000 --> 0:06:08.960 to call the cops, no one's going to look at 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:12.560 you crazy. It's just like blowing off the steam of 0:06:12.600 --> 0:06:17.200 what it's like to consistently, now two years be living 0:06:17.240 --> 0:06:22.760 in this pandemic where you have people who I want 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:24.600 to say a majority of which, but I don't think 0:06:24.600 --> 0:06:28.480 it's a majority. I think it's like half are dedicated 0:06:28.480 --> 0:06:32.240 to continuing to do the right thing for themselves and 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:35.520 for their communities, right, And then you have other people 0:06:35.560 --> 0:06:38.880 that just like Bill Marberry, Wise, Joe Rogan and others 0:06:38.920 --> 0:06:41.679 that just don't give a fuck. Right, because those people 0:06:41.760 --> 0:06:46.400 that are immune, have immune disorders or are they have 0:06:46.440 --> 0:06:49.800 immune systems that are suppressed. Guess what, they don't get 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:51.640 to throw up their hands and say, oh, well, I'm 0:06:51.640 --> 0:06:54.120 done with COVID because the minute that they are not 0:06:54.200 --> 0:06:58.240 protecting themselves, they're dead. Right, and there are more people 0:06:58.360 --> 0:07:01.920 that are immuno compromised in this country, then you can 0:07:02.120 --> 0:07:06.120 fucking wrap your minds around for various reasons, whether it 0:07:06.240 --> 0:07:11.280 is you know, diabetes, obesity, you know, cancer survivor because 0:07:11.360 --> 0:07:17.280 cancer cancer is rampant, right, hiv age like whatever it is. 0:07:17.640 --> 0:07:20.800 There are so many people that are compromised in some 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:25.080 way or other. So just to say oh, I'm done, 0:07:25.560 --> 0:07:28.000 you think that the virus then says, oh, okay, well 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:30.800 that person over there is finished, so I'm not gonna 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:32.679 infect them. I'm going to go to the other person 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:35.520 down the street. Like that's not how it fucking works. 0:07:35.560 --> 0:07:38.800 And you know, Frankly, my friend and co host on 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:42.920 Democracy Is said it best in Twitter earlier in the 0:07:42.960 --> 0:07:45.040 week where he was just like, you know, we need 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:49.320 to also stop referring to these people who act out 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:53.920 in the most ridiculous and stupid fucking ways as children, 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:57.680 because he's like, I'm the father of three kids, right 0:07:57.760 --> 0:08:01.600 that are like seven and under, and they wear their masks. 0:08:01.920 --> 0:08:04.640 They don't complain about not being able to play with 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:07.440 their friends, they don't complain about having to wear a 0:08:07.480 --> 0:08:10.160 mask all day. That they know that they're doing the 0:08:10.280 --> 0:08:13.560 right thing right and so they're able to handle and 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:17.920 adapt and be more nimble to this shift, this change 0:08:18.000 --> 0:08:22.040 in our societal gatherings in way of being than adults are. 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:27.280 So like, let's not insult children who genuinely do and 0:08:27.360 --> 0:08:30.120 generally do follow the rules that are put out in 0:08:30.120 --> 0:08:33.200 front of them and say that these adults that can't 0:08:33.240 --> 0:08:36.680 be bothered to do so are acting like children, because 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:41.920 that's an insult to them. I'm just like, you know, 0:08:42.040 --> 0:08:49.080 even still listening to medical professionals, whether it be on 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:52.880 TikTok or on cable news, say that people are still 0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:58.559 on their fucking deathbeds refusing ventilators because they were told 0:08:58.880 --> 0:09:02.079 by the likes of somebody who has no fucking MD 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:07.920 behind their name, right that, or no degree in epidemiology. 0:09:07.960 --> 0:09:10.520 Because let us also be clear that Fox News has 0:09:10.559 --> 0:09:13.280 on a lots of doctors, right, none of them are 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:18.199 actually virologists, right or epidemiologists. No, they're not. It's like 0:09:18.559 --> 0:09:22.360 going to your dentist and asking them about your heart, 0:09:22.920 --> 0:09:27.360 right Like, that's what it is that they do. And 0:09:27.440 --> 0:09:32.959 so for me right now, it is just the level 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:39.800 of frustration that I have that I realize that these people. 0:09:40.200 --> 0:09:42.640 I wish that we lived in a country that was 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:46.880 actually about accountability, that we were going to begin to 0:09:46.920 --> 0:09:51.280 do what other nations are doing which is issuing fines. Right, 0:09:52.559 --> 0:09:57.880 that if you are caught spreading misinformation, that no, it 0:09:57.920 --> 0:10:00.800 isn't just going to be that your band from YouTube 0:10:01.000 --> 0:10:04.679 or Twitter or Facebook, right, or your Instagram account is 0:10:04.720 --> 0:10:06.880 shut down for twenty four hours to give you another 0:10:06.880 --> 0:10:09.080 twenty four hours to come up with a different way 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:13.360 to spread your bullshit. Right, but that your state or 0:10:13.360 --> 0:10:17.320 the federal fucking government was going to start instituting fines 0:10:17.360 --> 0:10:20.760 against you. And I'm not talking about little fines. I'm 0:10:20.760 --> 0:10:24.680 talking about every time that you pose an infraction, that 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:29.120 we deem these people as a threat right to national security, 0:10:29.160 --> 0:10:34.840 because you see, this misinformation is an assault on our bill, 0:10:35.000 --> 0:10:38.320 on our public health, and our public health should be 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:44.280 tied to our security, right, because the more people that 0:10:44.360 --> 0:10:47.720 are fucking ill that can't go and teach in a classroom, 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:52.080 that can't go be flight attendants on the plane that 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:54.600 can't go pick up your packages and deliver them to 0:10:54.679 --> 0:10:59.840 your home from the factories. The chain right of command 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:05.360 and supply and production is fucked right now because of this. 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:08.680 And so you want to talk about these people saying, well, 0:11:08.679 --> 0:11:12.200 we need to, you know, do what's right for the economy. Well, 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:15.280 what's right for the economy is to ensure that those 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:18.640 that are working are actually fucking healthy. And if you 0:11:18.720 --> 0:11:22.439 are actively thwarting that, whether it is through a podcast 0:11:22.480 --> 0:11:25.760 and op ed through TikTok's or whatever, you're going to 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:29.559 be fucking fined. You know, I don't know what state, 0:11:29.679 --> 0:11:33.960 what country it is right now, and so forgive me, 0:11:34.080 --> 0:11:37.840 but I will look it up. But what they have 0:11:37.960 --> 0:11:41.960 done is made it so that folks that are I 0:11:42.000 --> 0:11:46.800 believe it is sixty and above, that for every month 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:51.559 that you do not get the vaccination or the booster shot, 0:11:52.120 --> 0:11:54.800 you're going to be fined. I think it was something 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:59.320 like two hundred and fifty or you know, maybe even 0:11:59.440 --> 0:12:03.920 upwards of five hundred dollars, right, And I'm just like, damn, 0:12:04.240 --> 0:12:09.600 imagine how many people would just fucking stop if your 0:12:09.640 --> 0:12:15.320 accounts are being flagged, your shows are being flagged with 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:19.080 major penalties. And I'm not talking for the Joe Rogans 0:12:19.120 --> 0:12:21.760 of the world that are multimillionaires that are like, oh, 0:12:21.800 --> 0:12:23.679 five hundred dollars and they're like, oh, I don't give 0:12:23.679 --> 0:12:26.120 a fuck, or the Marjorie Tailor Greens of the world 0:12:26.400 --> 0:12:29.880 who were getting thousands of dollars of fines on the 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:33.040 house floor for not following House rules in terms of 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:36.440 wearing a fucking mask. I'm saying that for people who 0:12:36.440 --> 0:12:41.120 are uber wealthy, hit them majorly. But the everyday person 0:12:42.280 --> 0:12:45.640 right where still in America, a four hundred dollars bill 0:12:45.679 --> 0:12:48.040 can come up that seventy five percent of the population 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:51.240 can't actually fucking pay. Imagine if you then were being 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:55.800 hit with four hundred dollars bills every single month or week, 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:58.960 or every time that you opened your fucking mouth, right, 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:03.840 what would happen? Imagine how quickly we could nip this 0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:08.400 issue of misinformation in the butt, right, But again, we 0:13:08.520 --> 0:13:14.680 don't do that here, right, because America is afraid of 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:18.880 the fringe. Right, They're afraid of the twenty five percent, 0:13:19.120 --> 0:13:23.200 and the twenty five percent fucking know it, right and 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:28.800 are using and honing that fear capitalizing on it because 0:13:28.840 --> 0:13:31.480 they know anti shit going to happen to them, so 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:34.800 they continue keeping on, to keep on, and I'm saying, 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:39.120 start to hit people where it fucking hurts, right, Like 0:13:39.200 --> 0:13:43.199 these are the same people who are either spreading misinformation 0:13:43.280 --> 0:13:46.880 on their own pages and their own platforms, right, and 0:13:46.960 --> 0:13:51.680 yet they were collecting the COVID relief money, right Like 0:13:51.920 --> 0:13:55.040 this is like the fuck shit that we live in. 0:13:55.800 --> 0:13:59.720 We're on one hand, you have no problem collecting the 0:13:59.720 --> 0:14:03.280 fun and money right that this administration is putting out, 0:14:03.480 --> 0:14:05.679 but like you should have had to show proof of 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:09.200 vaccination in order to get that fucking money. Do you 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:12.120 know what I'm saying? Like we need to have if 0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:15.360 we're going to use the carrot and the stick, if 0:14:15.360 --> 0:14:17.600 we're going to say like, oh, well you get a 0:14:17.640 --> 0:14:19.840 free beer with the shot, well, then here's the thing. 0:14:20.400 --> 0:14:22.960 You shouldn't have been able to get access to federal 0:14:23.080 --> 0:14:27.000 moneies unless you actually were able to show proof a 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:31.760 vaccination for yourself and whoever else is eligible in your household. Right, 0:14:31.880 --> 0:14:36.840 Like we need to start actually tying real life consequences, 0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:41.840 because death clearly is not a motivator, right Like the 0:14:41.880 --> 0:14:45.960 possibility of dying, of not being able to get to 0:14:46.000 --> 0:14:49.040 a hospital or being turned away because there aren't enough 0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:54.400 beds clearly is not a deterrent for people still refusing 0:14:54.520 --> 0:14:59.240 to get vaccinated. And frankly, I think it was put 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:04.320 up on CNN yesterday that there are still sixty one 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:08.160 million Americans that refuse to get vaccinated, and there are 0:15:08.200 --> 0:15:12.080 over eighty million Americans that still haven't received their second shot, 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:17.480 like haven't gone back to go get it. So I'm like, folks, 0:15:17.680 --> 0:15:23.080 what the fuck, right, where are the penalties? Like we 0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:27.280 need to stop just looking for the rewards, right, like oh, 0:15:27.320 --> 0:15:29.080 you get one hundred dollars, so, oh you get an 0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:32.200 Apple gift card, and start looking into what are the 0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:38.680 actual penalties for bad behavior? Because I would have loved 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:43.480 to see, you know, Bill Maher and his entire show 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:49.120 and fucking HBO find right for the missation, the misinformation 0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:53.480 and lies that the show told and say so we're 0:15:53.480 --> 0:15:56.800 going to make an example out of you. And now 0:15:56.840 --> 0:16:00.880 these shows that continue to promote false information are going 0:16:00.920 --> 0:16:04.480 to be charged like ten thousand dollars a minute for 0:16:04.560 --> 0:16:07.160 every fucking minute that that show is on the air. 0:16:07.360 --> 0:16:11.520 Like this is the kind of punishments that we need 0:16:11.560 --> 0:16:15.040 to be looking at in order to get to the 0:16:15.160 --> 0:16:19.440 point where eighty percent of the country is vaccinated. Because 0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:22.360 here's the thing, folks, I don't really give a fuck 0:16:22.800 --> 0:16:29.280 about what the optimism that folks are having around the 0:16:29.320 --> 0:16:32.400 fact that so many people have been affected with omicron 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:36.000 that maybe this is the end of the pandemic. We 0:16:36.240 --> 0:16:40.200 don't know what the fuck. We don't know. We barely 0:16:40.240 --> 0:16:43.680 know what the fuck we do know? Okay, we are 0:16:43.760 --> 0:16:46.080 learning all of this in real time. So for those 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:49.640 reporters and folks out there that keep asking stupid fucking 0:16:49.720 --> 0:16:53.200 questions like are we there yet right when we don't 0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:56.720 even know what portion of the trip we're on, the beginning, 0:16:56.720 --> 0:16:59.880 the middle, or the fucking end, it's a stupid question 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:03.560 to ask because it is more likely that if you've 0:17:03.600 --> 0:17:06.440 been paying attention over the last two years, that there 0:17:06.440 --> 0:17:11.320 will be another fucking variant. And so the questions that 0:17:11.359 --> 0:17:15.200 should be asking is how do we prepare for the inevitable. 0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:18.440 We'll worry about the end when the end actually proves 0:17:18.480 --> 0:17:21.440 itself to be here when we go six seven, eight 0:17:21.600 --> 0:17:27.000 months a year right without following a fucking ticker on 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:29.680 cable news that is telling us how many people are 0:17:29.800 --> 0:17:32.720 dying a day from a virus that twenty five percent 0:17:32.720 --> 0:17:39.480 of the population still doesn't fucking believe exists. I'm just 0:17:41.440 --> 0:17:46.160 I'm just so tired and so frustrated. And you will 0:17:46.200 --> 0:17:50.159 hear it in my conversation coming up with Jonathan, because 0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:53.280 it's been two years of this conversation, two years of 0:17:53.320 --> 0:17:59.560 the same shit, different day, and it's like, I just 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:05.200 keep thinking about how this was able to happen right 0:18:05.280 --> 0:18:10.840 about how there were no mitigation efforts around the misinformation 0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:14.760 campaign that was run in twenty sixteen on Hillary Clinton, 0:18:14.920 --> 0:18:19.160 on the election, on anything, and so they're just going 0:18:19.200 --> 0:18:22.520 to be able to take this model and adapt it 0:18:22.560 --> 0:18:26.120 to any issue and anything that they want. They've done 0:18:26.119 --> 0:18:28.840 it with critical race theory, they are now doing it 0:18:29.080 --> 0:18:32.159 with don't say gay, They've done it with abortion. Like 0:18:32.280 --> 0:18:34.679 it's just going to keep going and they're going to 0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:37.600 keep winning, and we're all going to be sitting around 0:18:37.760 --> 0:18:40.240 with our fucking hands up, looking up in the air, saying, 0:18:40.480 --> 0:18:46.679 I wonder how this is happening. The question that I 0:18:46.760 --> 0:18:48.960 have is like, when is there going to be a 0:18:48.960 --> 0:18:53.040 campaign that is working on our side? Right? When are 0:18:53.080 --> 0:18:56.760 we going to see the tools and the tactics that 0:18:56.840 --> 0:19:00.920 the radical rabid right has been using a apted for good? 0:19:01.680 --> 0:19:05.280 Like where the fuck are those people? Where is that platform? 0:19:05.560 --> 0:19:11.760 Where is that pipeline? You know, I had a call 0:19:11.880 --> 0:19:15.879 today and I have to say this that you know, 0:19:16.080 --> 0:19:21.360 I work in a variety of different spaces, and you know, 0:19:21.720 --> 0:19:26.160 for for well over a decade, I have worked in 0:19:26.800 --> 0:19:33.520 movement politics and with think tanks and various media outlets 0:19:33.640 --> 0:19:37.480 on what it means to secure our democracy and expand it, right, 0:19:37.560 --> 0:19:43.160 what it means to create a multiracial democracy. Right that is, 0:19:44.520 --> 0:19:50.119 expands upon the origination of the founding fathers and moves 0:19:50.119 --> 0:19:54.560 into a space of actual equity. And I got to 0:19:54.560 --> 0:20:00.679 tell you that in the conversation we came to the 0:20:00.720 --> 0:20:06.719 conclusion that the next several decades, not couple of years, 0:20:06.840 --> 0:20:10.000 not couple of months, but the next several decades in 0:20:10.040 --> 0:20:13.439 America are going to be like nothing we've ever seen before. 0:20:14.760 --> 0:20:17.639 They are going to be some of the darkest, most 0:20:17.760 --> 0:20:21.520 dangerous times. I cannot stress that enough. And many can 0:20:21.560 --> 0:20:24.320 think that I'm being hyperbolic. Oh where's your proof in that, 0:20:24.480 --> 0:20:28.720 I'm like, open your fucking eyes. Republicans will no doubt 0:20:29.160 --> 0:20:33.720 win midterms. Our government will no doubt grind to a halt. 0:20:34.200 --> 0:20:37.280 They will have all the machinations in place in order 0:20:37.359 --> 0:20:41.400 to make sure that the twenty twenty four presidential election 0:20:41.640 --> 0:20:47.240 is anything but free or fair. Voter suppression, targeting of 0:20:47.400 --> 0:20:50.520 marginalized communities and those that live at the intersection of 0:20:50.600 --> 0:20:54.960 many of those communities will continue to happen. You will 0:20:55.000 --> 0:20:59.800 see political opponents be slapped with lawsuits and be thrown 0:20:59.840 --> 0:21:03.440 in jail. You will see academics targeted like we are 0:21:03.480 --> 0:21:08.640 seeing with scientists and doctors and nurses and medical professionals. Now, 0:21:09.680 --> 0:21:14.680 things will get much much worse. And if we are 0:21:14.680 --> 0:21:18.880 not planning for what that looks like recognizing that there 0:21:19.000 --> 0:21:21.679 isn't a way to stop this train as an individual 0:21:22.200 --> 0:21:25.640 from going off the tracks, from falling over the cliff, right, 0:21:25.640 --> 0:21:29.760 there isn't. There is only collective action. But we are 0:21:29.840 --> 0:21:33.800 not a part of a party that has a backbone 0:21:34.280 --> 0:21:38.159 that has a warrior not only warrior spirit, but an 0:21:38.200 --> 0:21:43.640 actual strategic war plan about how we succeed. So if 0:21:43.680 --> 0:21:47.399 that is the case, then what are we doing to 0:21:47.600 --> 0:21:53.200 protect ourselves now in the best possible way that we can? Right? 0:21:54.000 --> 0:21:56.960 And I don't think that we're having those conversations out 0:21:56.960 --> 0:22:00.760 loud enough because we're too afraid of being called crazy, 0:22:00.800 --> 0:22:03.800 a being called hyperbolic, a being called chicken little, Oh 0:22:03.840 --> 0:22:07.320 the sky is falling where they would rather right on 0:22:07.359 --> 0:22:10.840 the television behind me, make little jokes and small talk 0:22:10.920 --> 0:22:14.520 about politics and oh everybody and both sides and this 0:22:14.680 --> 0:22:17.320 that and the other thing, much in the same way 0:22:17.440 --> 0:22:21.600 that the you know, the morning show talk hosts did 0:22:21.640 --> 0:22:26.080 in the in the film, don't look up. Leonardo Dicapri said, 0:22:26.080 --> 0:22:29.000 Everything doesn't need to be so fucking cheery. Everything doesn't 0:22:29.040 --> 0:22:31.719 need to be, you know, a joke or a giggle 0:22:31.880 --> 0:22:36.760 or light. What we are dealing with is existential. It's 0:22:36.800 --> 0:22:43.760 an existential crisis that this country is in. And so 0:22:43.840 --> 0:22:47.440 if we're not willing to say the scary parts out loud, 0:22:47.440 --> 0:22:50.280 then we're not really willing to tackle the problem, are we. 0:22:56.119 --> 0:22:59.840 I wrote a piece that is up on Zora magazine 0:23:00.119 --> 0:23:04.520 right now, the property under medium that you can check out. 0:23:04.520 --> 0:23:06.800 I've tweeted it out and I'll continue to tweet and 0:23:06.880 --> 0:23:13.399 share it across social media. But it's the theme is 0:23:13.600 --> 0:23:16.560 what does it mean to be an American now? To 0:23:17.080 --> 0:23:20.520 be an American right now? When we have no shared values, 0:23:20.560 --> 0:23:24.840 we have no shared path right. Half of the country 0:23:25.200 --> 0:23:29.440 doesn't believe in truth factor science, right. The other half 0:23:29.440 --> 0:23:32.520 of the country believes that these people will come around, 0:23:33.520 --> 0:23:37.960 you know, at some point, who are we right when 0:23:37.960 --> 0:23:40.280 we say that we are American? And like, oh, well, 0:23:40.320 --> 0:23:42.680 I'm an American? What the fuck does that actually mean 0:23:43.000 --> 0:23:47.679 right now? In this climate? And so I pose that 0:23:47.800 --> 0:23:51.679 question to all of you today on today's episode and 0:23:51.840 --> 0:23:54.239 answer me in the comments section or hit me up 0:23:55.080 --> 0:23:58.439 on Twitter or on Instagram. What does it mean to 0:23:58.560 --> 0:24:02.240 be an American to you right now? What does that mean? 0:24:04.359 --> 0:24:10.760 And you know, has it shifted, has it changed? And 0:24:10.840 --> 0:24:13.360 what does that look like? So I'd love to hear 0:24:13.400 --> 0:24:16.040 from all of you in the comments section or on 0:24:16.040 --> 0:24:22.000 social media with the hashtag hashtag woke af Coming up 0:24:22.080 --> 0:24:25.200 next is my conversation with our in house doctor, doctor 0:24:25.280 --> 0:24:30.360 Jonathan Metzel, who is reporting live from Tennessee, where he 0:24:30.520 --> 0:24:33.520 is back in the midst of what he says feels 0:24:34.240 --> 0:24:40.520 absolutely crazy. He's like, there's just COVID everywhere. So that 0:24:40.600 --> 0:24:46.120 conversation is coming up next. Folks. You know that if 0:24:46.160 --> 0:24:49.679 it is Wednesday, we are in the doctor's office with 0:24:49.720 --> 0:24:52.719 our in house doctor, doctor Jonathan Metzel, to bring you 0:24:52.800 --> 0:24:58.679 the latest in COVID nineteen. Jonathan, you are now back 0:25:00.119 --> 0:25:06.040 at Vanderbilt University in Tennessee. How are you doing. It's 0:25:06.080 --> 0:25:08.280 an interesting time here. I would just tell you that 0:25:08.320 --> 0:25:10.920 there is a lot of COVID. A lot of people 0:25:10.960 --> 0:25:14.720 don't think it's COVID. They think their pandemic is over, 0:25:14.880 --> 0:25:18.359 but they're getting quite ill. So it's it's intense time. 0:25:18.640 --> 0:25:23.120 We're trying to basically rent a college in the middle 0:25:23.119 --> 0:25:25.719 of a pandemic, like many schools are, and it's definitely 0:25:25.760 --> 0:25:27.800 a challenge. I mean, you can't just ignore it. People 0:25:27.800 --> 0:25:29.480 think you can just ignore it doesn't work that way. 0:25:30.040 --> 0:25:32.040 You know, We've got some people are doing great, some 0:25:32.080 --> 0:25:34.679 people are sick, and we're just trying to balance it 0:25:34.720 --> 0:25:37.240 as best we can. So it's it's challenging, but so far, 0:25:37.280 --> 0:25:39.760 so good. You know. I don't know if you've seen 0:25:39.800 --> 0:25:43.879 the clip that has gone around of Barry Weiss and 0:25:45.800 --> 0:25:52.159 Bill there Bill Maher on his show, but essentially and 0:25:52.240 --> 0:25:54.840 Bill Maher also just got pushed back from Whoopie Goldberg 0:25:54.920 --> 0:25:58.600 about making jokes about COVID and saying, you know, we're 0:25:58.640 --> 0:26:02.240 just all over it. The vaccines clearly don't work, and 0:26:02.280 --> 0:26:06.320 everybody is over it. And this was his refrain that 0:26:06.359 --> 0:26:10.800 he keeps saying with millions and millions of followers, what 0:26:10.920 --> 0:26:14.040 do you say to that to these people who are 0:26:14.080 --> 0:26:16.879 either you know where you are located right now that 0:26:16.960 --> 0:26:19.760 think that if you ignore something it goes away, or 0:26:20.040 --> 0:26:22.760 feel like we're in a position when we are knocking 0:26:22.840 --> 0:26:26.919 on a million people's door of deaths in this country. 0:26:27.240 --> 0:26:29.960 So when they say I'm over it and it's done, 0:26:29.960 --> 0:26:32.800 and we're exhausted and let's just throw our hands up. 0:26:33.400 --> 0:26:37.119 What's your response to that? Well, confidentially, I'm going to 0:26:37.160 --> 0:26:39.520 read a text exchange I had with one of my 0:26:39.520 --> 0:26:43.000 fellow professors. Okay, well, it can't be confidential if it's 0:26:43.000 --> 0:26:47.360 on the show. No, no, no names. Okay, I'm saying, 0:26:47.400 --> 0:26:50.359 I'm not going to divulge who they are. Okay. My 0:26:50.440 --> 0:26:52.280 colleague said, Hi, there, I have a few students at 0:26:52.320 --> 0:26:55.280 this point who are isolating because of COVID and are 0:26:55.359 --> 0:26:58.679 quite symptomatic. What is the strategy? So we talked back 0:26:58.720 --> 0:27:01.680 and forth and I said, you know, make sure they 0:27:01.680 --> 0:27:04.760