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Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones. It is a Thursday at
Speaker 1: the Star in Frisco, Texas, and it's time for talking
Speaker 1: Cowboys in what is being billed as Super Bowl Week
Speaker 1: in the city of Houston, the state championship game on
Speaker 1: Sunday night, the Cowboys and the Texans. I'm Bill Jones
Speaker 1: with Brian brought us and Rob Phillips and a chair
Speaker 1: as Ricky Spagno is not with us right now, but
Speaker 1: he should be with us shortly. He'll come in Hurricane
Speaker 1: Mickey will come rolling into it. He's gonna be thousand pounds.
Speaker 1: He'll have two sequoia trees under his arms for a
Speaker 1: paper that he has, and he won't have the right paper.
Speaker 1: He'll be like, he'll be going on, I where's the paper.
Speaker 1: Somebody to ask a question, and you know he'll get
Speaker 1: that look like, yeah, there we go. I had that
Speaker 1: written down somewhere. Yeah, somewhere to stop down the whole
Speaker 1: show to find it, y'all just stop talking for us. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, when Mickey goes silent, he's trying to refute
Speaker 1: something you've said, you know, I mean, he just gets
Speaker 1: over there and he gets that look. He puts his
Speaker 1: glasses on and he starts thumbing through the paper and
Speaker 1: you'll say, you know, the Texans aren't very good in
Speaker 1: run defense. On the first down, you know, averaging they
Speaker 1: give up only about three point four yards to carry.
Speaker 1: And then Mickey will start thumbing through and he'll go
Speaker 1: and we don't hear from him, and then he'll go,
Speaker 1: you know, the Texans zone play very good on running. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: we're taking free calls. I'm like, all right, Mick, Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, glad to have you on board today. Okay,
Speaker 1: I was doing some TV yesterday and I thumbed through
Speaker 1: yesterday's podcast on my commute end today. As a matter
Speaker 1: of fact, there you go, and I heard y'all did
Speaker 1: a great segment, killed one segment on Dez and what
Speaker 1: we do around here. However, at the end of the
Speaker 1: first segment, which I had kind of thumbed through because
Speaker 1: I wanted I wanted I had heard that you had
Speaker 1: talked about Dez and I wanted to hear that schure
Speaker 1: k And at the end of the first segment, Rob
Speaker 1: you said something about you love it when Mickey and
Speaker 1: Brian butt heads or something like that where there's some
Speaker 1: budding of heads, and yesterday's podcasts that I need to
Speaker 1: know about fire yesterday. I like that Cowboys offense trying
Speaker 1: to move the ball against the Sexans defense. Again, I
Speaker 1: love Mickey. I respect People out there think I don't
Speaker 1: like Mickey, and that's not true. Andy, Mickey and I
Speaker 1: are basically from the same bottle of wine, like you Bill.
Speaker 1: We're all that same bottle, you know. And so you know,
Speaker 1: it's we're trying to talk about, Okay, what's the best
Speaker 1: plan of attack? How would you attack the Texans? You know,
Speaker 1: are you worried about their pass rush? Well, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: their past defense is one of the worst in the league.
Speaker 1: You know, how do you how do you attack? And
Speaker 1: then you know, he's like, well, how does the Colts
Speaker 1: throw for four hundred yards? And I'm going when are
Speaker 1: the Cowboys ever thrown for four hundred yards? You know?
Speaker 1: And so what is the I'm to the point of
Speaker 1: where I try and look for reasons why can't can
Speaker 1: you take advantage? You know, the Cowboys are built to
Speaker 1: run the football. We all know that that. You don't
Speaker 1: need a former scout to tell you that that's what
Speaker 1: this team does. But you know, is that really the
Speaker 1: best plan of attack? Can you can you protect enough
Speaker 1: on first downs? Can you use max protection? Can you
Speaker 1: keep you know, I say max, keep backs in, keep
Speaker 1: tight ends, and can you find ways to let your
Speaker 1: guys win one on one on the outside. And this
Speaker 1: is the discussion, you know that I like to have
Speaker 1: is do you have people that are capable on the
Speaker 1: outside of consistently winning one on one? Yeah? I'd love
Speaker 1: to say, hey, let's drop back, use the line, throw
Speaker 1: the ball all over the park, but that might not
Speaker 1: necessarily be the best way for this team to attack
Speaker 1: the Texans. And what he pointed out, what Brian pointed
Speaker 1: out was I pointed it out. If there is a
Speaker 1: weak spot on this Houston defense, it's the secondary. There
Speaker 1: might be opportunities to win battles one on one and
Speaker 1: try to open things up for Zeke through the passing game, right,
Speaker 1: And I agree with you on that. Mickey doesn't want
Speaker 1: to hear that, and Mickey doesn't need to be here
Speaker 1: for me to say this about him. You can point
Speaker 1: out positives in the opponent's game. That doesn't mean that
Speaker 1: you're trying to say, Hey, Cowboys can't win this, they
Speaker 1: can't possibly win this game. That kind of sounds like
Speaker 1: the yeah Derek Dooley does exchange on the Scottie report
Speaker 1: of the Broncos on on what was the name of
Speaker 1: the Yeah, pretty much? How would you like me to
Speaker 1: phrase it? How would you like me to phrase this, Mickey?
Speaker 1: How can we phrase this any better? I just you know,
Speaker 1: I think that if this team, and like I said,
Speaker 1: if the conversation is do they have do they have
Speaker 1: enough weapons on the outside to affect you know? What
Speaker 1: do we say last week going into the Lions game, Hey,
Speaker 1: they have got to get back to running the football
Speaker 1: they ran in against Seattle Bill. You even brought up
Speaker 1: the point if they can build a lead, they'll keep
Speaker 1: running it. And you know that's the best way for
Speaker 1: this team to play football. So, you know, I look
Speaker 1: at this and say, okay, but do they have those receivers?
Speaker 1: Do they have you mean, you know, the trust to
Speaker 1: the quarterback. I'd like to trust the quarterback. I really do.
Speaker 1: I think the quarterback can make some throws. He made
Speaker 1: some great throws. Yeah, yeah, and you know people didn't
Speaker 1: think he could make. Scouts are always taught that, you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's you're taught if you've seen it in Rob
Speaker 1: likes to use this phrase occasionally. If me is you
Speaker 1: see a guy do it one time, you could believe
Speaker 1: he could do it again. That's Jerry's and that's and
Speaker 1: that's yeah, that's something that we've always you know, when
Speaker 1: I was working in the scouting department, and that goes
Speaker 1: all the way back to the Hall of Fame general manager,
Speaker 1: I worked within Green Bay with Ron Wolf. Ron Wolf
Speaker 1: is like, wait a minute, We've seen this guy do this.
Speaker 1: We've seen him make throws, we've seen him run the football,
Speaker 1: we've seen him play past defense. The question is how
Speaker 1: how consistently can a player do that. They can do it,
Speaker 1: but how often and how consistently? If you dial it up, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's the That's the biggest issue I think with
Speaker 1: the is if where is the trust factor in the
Speaker 1: wide receivers. I mean, I feel like they've done a
Speaker 1: good job of getting open for the most part, but
Speaker 1: are the consistently, the consistency that's going to take to
Speaker 1: do this. So that's kind of where I'm out on there.
Speaker 1: All right, go ahead, Hi Mickey, Hi Bill? You listening
Speaker 1: to us talking there? But yeah, I was eating breakfast
Speaker 1: or your ears. I'll just keep eating there. Yeah, Hey,
Speaker 1: go is that is that a biscuit or is that? Okay,
Speaker 1: it's a biscuit, right, it's a bagel, you know, a bagels.
Speaker 1: I was gonna stop at a convenience store and get
Speaker 1: a biscuit or something or donut or something though late
Speaker 1: in and can I stop the show down for a second.
Speaker 1: Have you ever eaten a hot dog from a gas
Speaker 1: station on when the roller things? Have you ever done that? No,
Speaker 1: you've eatn a lucky dog in New Orleans? Okay, there,
Speaker 1: that's worse that you're lucky. You're lucky. You're alive to
Speaker 1: talk a little little wagon bob. You'll do anything at
Speaker 1: four in the morning if you just can't see or
Speaker 1: you're hungry. But I'm proud to say I probably haven't
Speaker 1: done that in thirty years. Yeah, but you live to
Speaker 1: tell about it. I did. Yeah, But you never eating
Speaker 1: a rotisserie hot I guess it's a rotisserie. It's a
Speaker 1: rule I did. It's been I live to tell about it.
Speaker 1: I guess what about what about buy it? You know
Speaker 1: they sell the chicken the wings like by I see
Speaker 1: people going, you know, you're convenience store. It's not convenient.
Speaker 1: You get behind these guys and it's like, yeah, I'll
Speaker 1: have three of those and a lottery ticket. Those a
Speaker 1: lottery ticket. Can we have a lottery line over here?
Speaker 1: And I was hopeful someone would bring that up. I
Speaker 1: would like to invent a lottery line for people that
Speaker 1: like to play. And you know what, and if they
Speaker 1: actually if they went, have them stopping down the show.
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. If minute, if they wind jump, I
Speaker 1: notice they buy the lottery stuff and they win, they
Speaker 1: buy more, they buy more, they're late date, Hey I
Speaker 1: won twenty bucks. Okay, give me twenty more. All right,
Speaker 1: you don't. You can go back in the line if
Speaker 1: you want to buy more, but scratch it off. By
Speaker 1: that time, my drumstick ice cream is just completely melted.
Speaker 1: Or the guy that comes in and ice cream, you
Speaker 1: know I'm talking about scream in the bottom. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: guy that comes in, he can check it himself. What
Speaker 1: did I win anything? And you're sitting there. Okay, I
Speaker 1: gotta go. I'm supposed to be quick. The Red Cross
Speaker 1: is dropping supplies outside. You've been so long there, which
Speaker 1: leakes me go ahead. I got preempted by Jason Taylor.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, so they pushed me back. So what hall
Speaker 1: of fame is he in? Yeah? I don't know what's
Speaker 1: he ever do? He's acting like he's, you know, on
Speaker 1: the radio broadcast Sunday night the National. Is that why
Speaker 1: he was of importance this week? Yeah? More importance than
Speaker 1: Mickey this week? Yeah? I don't understand. All right, here's
Speaker 1: my question of to day. If you were a player
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys, where would you live? You get that
Speaker 1: poll question up on the website right now on the
Speaker 1: Al Live. Yes, where would you live? Off season or regular?
Speaker 1: Regular season? Single or married? Was I on the team
Speaker 1: before they moved your single or married? Either way? Okay?
Speaker 1: Was I on the team before they moved here or after?
Speaker 1: You're on the team now, right, it's don't complicate this.
Speaker 1: Try to tell you might have a nice home there
Speaker 1: and and sol or No, I'm saying Jay, you just
Speaker 1: a you're just arriving, Okay, I'd be out here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that condo right by the practice field. I move it
Speaker 1: in right That's where I every day. I stand up
Speaker 1: and I say, I look at that, and I go,
Speaker 1: how cool would it be to live over there and
Speaker 1: be like single and work. We just walk across the street.
Speaker 1: There's no doubt. And I say that because of my
Speaker 1: commute this morning struggle. You just need to get to it,
Speaker 1: you know. No, I had to relate it to the cowboys.
Speaker 1: So there now, everybody's not jumping off the cliff anyway.
Speaker 1: I make one false move and it brings up your
Speaker 1: biscuit there or whatever. You're you're right there. I wasn't
Speaker 1: able to get my bagel this morning because I make
Speaker 1: one false move off the highway and there's an accident
Speaker 1: on the other side of the road where I would
Speaker 1: be getting back on the highway. There's police cars. I
Speaker 1: never ever get there, and I'm going, all right, it's
Speaker 1: nine o'clock. I got I got thirty minute. I was
Speaker 1: doing fine. I was gonna be here at nine fifteen.
Speaker 1: Ye never get off, and I wound up having to.
Speaker 1: I said, I'm not battling that traffic. There's no way
Speaker 1: I'll make it. So I drived out. Hebron Parkway all
Speaker 1: the way to the toll way. I've made it in time.
Speaker 1: But anyway that you mentioned Jason Witten, I guess he
Speaker 1: came at six o'clock in the morning every day, five
Speaker 1: thirty six across first light to work. There's another prominent
Speaker 1: former cowboy who lives out in the same area, and
Speaker 1: I understand he would not be on time, maybe for
Speaker 1: some practices or meetings or way too. And I can
Speaker 1: understand why because it's one All it takes is one accident.
Speaker 1: So I'm living across the street. So let's just use
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott as the example, because he lived about two
Speaker 1: miles north of here when he first got here in
Speaker 1: a condo and then he bought a house and it
Speaker 1: was in the same area, so he could basically, like
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence and Tyrone Crawford, ride their bikes here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if they wanted too. Is he lives like less than
Speaker 1: a mile if here. You know what, that's a really
Speaker 1: good thing there can really good. It is less driving
Speaker 1: he has to do. He can play bumper cars everyone.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure if you're a twenty two year old,
Speaker 1: it's very intriguing to go live down in Uptown. Whatever
Speaker 1: but building legacy West the shops a legacy, it's it's
Speaker 1: it's kind of a college like atmosphere. That's right. Maybe
Speaker 1: there's a little older clientele. And if you remember that
Speaker 1: when we had the real estate Talk Cowboy Radio, Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm just going where where the bus is turning. Man's
Speaker 1: just just live somewhere where you don't have to pay
Speaker 1: all the tolls, that's all. I got a good point.
Speaker 1: And I did hear the des talk yesterday, and I'm
Speaker 1: in agreement with what y'all were saying. I'm not surprised
Speaker 1: at all, and I don't know why anyone would at
Speaker 1: all be surprised that he still wants to play for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. That's the only team he ever wanted to
Speaker 1: play for, and it probably has affected if I don't know,
Speaker 1: if he had a firm offer from the Ravens in
Speaker 1: the off season, he probably was having this holding out
Speaker 1: hope that something might happen where he can reland here.
Speaker 1: I think he's made a great point throughout and I
Speaker 1: think he's been very consistent about this. Does he really
Speaker 1: want to play football? Does he really want to get
Speaker 1: in shape? Does he really want to do everything he
Speaker 1: has to do? To get on a team and play.
Speaker 1: I've talked to teams that have been interested him, and
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I reached out to John Dorsey
Speaker 1: at Cleveland. I said, hey, this is what I know
Speaker 1: about Dez Bryant, just to try and help him. And so,
Speaker 1: you know, John sent me back message, Hey, thank you
Speaker 1: very much, appreciate your thoughts. So, yeah, does does does
Speaker 1: Bryant really want to play football? I think there were
Speaker 1: some teams initially interested in does Bryant playing football? And
Speaker 1: I don't know if necessary that's the case, especially for
Speaker 1: the salaries that are being offered out there. Well we're
Speaker 1: past that, you know, we're with the quarter poll now.
Speaker 1: So yeah, now you're at eight hundred thousand year. Yes,
Speaker 1: you're basically veteran minimum. Take whatever Bryce Butler got right,
Speaker 1: But then he has to look at it also, Okay,
Speaker 1: if he sits out a whole season, then what's his
Speaker 1: If he really wants to play football next year's value?
Speaker 1: Like then if you don't play at all this year?
Speaker 1: This is what he does? And you know, does is?
Speaker 1: It sounds like to me and talk at some folks
Speaker 1: that are very close to Deaz and I have a
Speaker 1: relationship with Dez. I've been able to tweet, text with
Speaker 1: him and talk with him Insta about things. And you know,
Speaker 1: he's got some things going off the field in a
Speaker 1: positive light. A team, classmates he had at Oklahoma State
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. Guy's business opportunities, not just own
Speaker 1: a bar and lose all your money kind of thing.
Speaker 1: But he's got some legitimate things and he has to
Speaker 1: figure out now if he doesn't play a year, does
Speaker 1: he say, Okay, I'm gonna take my my finances and
Speaker 1: back into a business opportunities and trying to you know,
Speaker 1: be like the rest of us, you know, and I
Speaker 1: have a job and work every day and you know,
Speaker 1: try and do the best we can and commute. I'm
Speaker 1: sure when he got drafted in twenty ten, he had
Speaker 1: no other thoughts in his mind playing football, playing football
Speaker 1: for the Dallas Cowboys and only playing for the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1: And I'm not in his head. I haven't talked to him.
Speaker 1: I just would imagine it's it's tough the idea of
Speaker 1: playing for anybody else besides this organization. And that's why
Speaker 1: I kind of rolled my eyes when I saw everybody
Speaker 1: freaking out on Twitter about Oh he wants to play here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh okay, I mean he didn't retire. He got cut
Speaker 1: six months ago and he turns thirty on November fourth. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's you know, it's let's let's be honest. Though there
Speaker 1: was some slippage in the play. I still believe though,
Speaker 1: when healthy, that he's better than I. And you know
Speaker 1: that's aside from Cole Beasley. But you know, if you
Speaker 1: look at the way this group is, this group, if
Speaker 1: they if to get better at receiver, they're gonna have
Speaker 1: to address it in the springtime. They can't. You know,
Speaker 1: they've they've got to ride with what they've got right
Speaker 1: now and hopefully they can make it work. You know,
Speaker 1: they've got you know how many more games twelve more
Speaker 1: games now to to to kind of you know, you
Speaker 1: look at what's going on with the Eagles right now,
Speaker 1: this division. Nobody's running away with this division right now.
Speaker 1: You just got to find a way to put some
Speaker 1: wins together. You know, Houston looks like a team that
Speaker 1: that as having their own problems. They're a little bit
Speaker 1: like the Cowboys. They've got really good receivers, but they
Speaker 1: got a really poor offensive line and they got a
Speaker 1: bad secondary. So everybody in this league appears to have
Speaker 1: a little bit of problem that they're having to deal
Speaker 1: with right now. With the exception, well, I guess Kansas City.
Speaker 1: They scored so many points, but if you look at
Speaker 1: their defense, it's ranked last in the league and most
Speaker 1: most of all categories, with the exception of third down defenses.
Speaker 1: Rams are undefeated, but they've had some defense exactly. So
Speaker 1: you just got to kind of figure out how best
Speaker 1: fits your plan. Best fits your plan is not having
Speaker 1: Dez Bryant playing with these receivers running the football, trying
Speaker 1: to help Dak Prescott and hopefully your offense or some
Speaker 1: of your defense can continue to get pass rush to
Speaker 1: help your secondary. Okay, go ahead and making it was
Speaker 1: just going to say, Michael Gallup should have more than
Speaker 1: five catches. Yeah, it might be a little bit on
Speaker 1: Michael Gallup though too. I'm not trying to put words
Speaker 1: or minimize what you just said. I'm just saying he
Speaker 1: should have more chances to have more catches. I understand
Speaker 1: he struggled some. Yeah, but how do you expected from
Speaker 1: a rookie? How do you yet, how do you get
Speaker 1: him out of the struggle, and how do you find
Speaker 1: more opportunities for him. Like we talk, I think we
Speaker 1: are all in agreement. I've been banging on this drum
Speaker 1: for weeks, like let's shorten this rotation. Let's let's let
Speaker 1: Dak ride with a certain group with a certain snaps
Speaker 1: per game. But like, Okay, who's sitting down? Who sitting
Speaker 1: down to give gallop thirty forty snaps? If that's what
Speaker 1: you want? Whoever? Whoever? I mean, then who because because
Speaker 1: then now you're this is a new group, but that's
Speaker 1: a veteran group that at least has some time on
Speaker 1: task in the NFL. One head one has been set
Speaker 1: down for whatever reason in the last week. And all right,
Speaker 1: Terrence Williams is a DNP, not injury related yesterday in practice,
Speaker 1: So what's going on with Terrence Williams? Would think, you know,
Speaker 1: good question. Yeah, I think that. You know, Mickey has
Speaker 1: been an investigator reporter a long time. He's covered this team.
Speaker 1: He could probably you know, he could dig hard in
Speaker 1: this and probably figure it out before Rob. I know
Speaker 1: you done reporting stuff and Bill, but I think that
Speaker 1: when you the head coach would and I can. I've
Speaker 1: always been I've been very critical of the head coach,
Speaker 1: but I think this is the times where he wants
Speaker 1: to be honest with us about it and he can't
Speaker 1: and we might be can get some kind of hippo
Speaker 1: laws here or something like that that we that you
Speaker 1: know that he can't go into great detail or what's wrong,
Speaker 1: and because if it gets and what it says on
Speaker 1: the injury report is did not participate, not injury related,
Speaker 1: which is the same as what it said the last
Speaker 1: injury report, which was on Friday. You've got to be
Speaker 1: really careful of when you talk about people in this
Speaker 1: day and age and what information you do provide, because again,
Speaker 1: everybody understands the importance. Nobody wants to get sued or
Speaker 1: anything like that. So there's a lot of sealed lips around. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you ask people in this building, even back to last
Speaker 1: week when he didn't practice, and like more than once
Speaker 1: you kind of get a shoulder shrug like I can't
Speaker 1: tell you or I don't know, Like no one's lying. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but no one's being forthcoming. I don't think anybody wants
Speaker 1: to be where it traces back to somebody said, Okay,
Speaker 1: what's going on with Terrence Williams, And I think the
Speaker 1: head coach was very honest, just again, I love to
Speaker 1: walk off. I wish we'd ask him two questions in
Speaker 1: the press conference and just have just do the rest
Speaker 1: of the walk off. I think we learned so much
Speaker 1: about the football team there at that time. But he
Speaker 1: was very He was very you could tell in his face.
Speaker 1: He says, Hey, I'd like to help you guys here,
Speaker 1: but I can't help you guys. So that to me
Speaker 1: is very because Jason has been this year and and
Speaker 1: and years past, been very forthright with information when we've
Speaker 1: asked him questions in that type of a setting. You know,
Speaker 1: sometimes knowledge is better than a sound bite. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Yeah, Well, one thing to point
Speaker 1: out about it though, this week he's he was here
Speaker 1: in the morning yesterday, he was here on Tuesday. He
Speaker 1: didn't practice, but like the Cowboys are in tune with
Speaker 1: him and they're talking to him, and it's these are
Speaker 1: excused absences. So yeah, there's no issues. There's no issues
Speaker 1: there as far as issues, as far as any like. Okay, no,
Speaker 1: the communication between both parties is there. It's there. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, we continue and take your phone calls here
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Speaker 1: get your Tommy, and I'm like, this is not me.
Speaker 1: Since I had to go, I feel I just had
Speaker 1: to kind of just be a just said to wing it,
Speaker 1: you know, and it really sometimes that's the best. With
Speaker 1: the help of Mickey and Rob, we got through it, okay.
Speaker 1: But yeah, personal testimony is the best. Add Tommy Johns.
Speaker 1: It's not even a choice anymore. You look in the
Speaker 1: underword drawer. If it's in there, I just have a
Speaker 1: couple in there, and so we're gonna work on I'll
Speaker 1: dig to the bottom to go get the Tommy Johns
Speaker 1: to put all right there. Yeah, Mackey has a serious
Speaker 1: look on his face. I was I was trying to
Speaker 1: figure something out and then didn't really okay, I mean
Speaker 1: didn't we wor didn't have the right tree. No, we can't.
Speaker 1: We keep we keep talking about the lack of numbers
Speaker 1: for the wide receivers. Yes, they've only averaged fifty seven
Speaker 1: plays a game. Yeah, normally you're in the sixties. That's true,
Speaker 1: sixty five right, True, they've only averaged twenty eight passes
Speaker 1: a game. That's true. That the rest of the league's
Speaker 1: in the thirties. Team is my next question? Is that
Speaker 1: ideal for this team? I mean they won with how
Speaker 1: many nine? Yeah, but you're not gonna win when you're
Speaker 1: third down version rate is twenty eight percent and it
Speaker 1: just jumped to twenty eight, right was twenty three and
Speaker 1: a half. Yeah, that's not good. Yeah, So that that
Speaker 1: you know, you're not going to have big numbers when
Speaker 1: you're not having thempecially when you look around the league
Speaker 1: this year and you see what's going on. Mickey can
Speaker 1: I can I give you a surprising number. Go ahead,
Speaker 1: and and and I know I'm with you on these
Speaker 1: numbers at times, but you wouldn't believe this, But this
Speaker 1: offense is fourth in the league and dropped passes meaning
Speaker 1: they only the league average. No, I mean fourth in
Speaker 1: the not not dropping pass not dropping pas, not dropping passes.
Speaker 1: But is that percentage there is the number, it's it's number.
Speaker 1: It's actually there at one point eight. They're at one
Speaker 1: point eight. But that's a game that has something to
Speaker 1: do with the fact they don't have as many passes. It,
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. But don't you feel like some
Speaker 1: of like a lot of the passes they've thrown, they've
Speaker 1: been some of them been dropped. Well, Mickey mentioned get
Speaker 1: Michael gallutmore involved one bounced off league average. Yeah, league
Speaker 1: average is four point six and the Cowboys are at
Speaker 1: one point eight. So I mean, it's crazy to believe that,
Speaker 1: you know. And to Mickey's point, they don't throw It mean,
Speaker 1: they don't throw the ball enough, you know, to h
Speaker 1: to be you'd think that they'd have even up to
Speaker 1: the league average. But I was if you said, no,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, the Cowboys are probably near the bottom of
Speaker 1: the league when it comes to drop passes, and no,
Speaker 1: they're actually one of the better teams in the league
Speaker 1: when it comes to not dropping the ball, right, So
Speaker 1: this is what I was looking for. Sorry, The league
Speaker 1: average for third down conversion is thirty nine point three. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so they're eleven percent less than the average. They've had
Speaker 1: some rough go sixteen percent less before jumping up to Yes,
Speaker 1: that is the reason why they don't have a lot
Speaker 1: of plays. And it's not on the defense. It's not
Speaker 1: all third and long either. I mean, you know it
Speaker 1: used to be third and one, third and two. You
Speaker 1: hand it to Zeke and it's just but it's still
Speaker 1: a small all sample. It's just a the season it is.
Speaker 1: And they were I think five or twelve last week,
Speaker 1: so that is an improvement. That is an improvement. And
Speaker 1: they weren't facing an offensive juggernaut in Carolina or Seattle
Speaker 1: or the Giants for that matter, and so what they're
Speaker 1: doing offense, they didn't have to do as much offensively.
Speaker 1: They had to do more against Detroit and they did.
Speaker 1: They'll probably have to do more against Houston with the
Speaker 1: quarterback they're facing this week, who has three straight games
Speaker 1: of over three hundred yards passing and two straight games
Speaker 1: of over four hundred yards total offense. Okay, about this
Speaker 1: real quick, if I could. If we're going to try
Speaker 1: and attack the Texans on first down, We've talked about there.
Speaker 1: You know, they're giving up like three and a half
Speaker 1: yards to carry on first down, and you're like over that,
Speaker 1: You're well over that, You're forty nine over that. But
Speaker 1: on passing yards of fourth of four yards or more
Speaker 1: on first down, you only get your twenty eighth in
Speaker 1: the league. Suddenly happens. The league average is fifty three
Speaker 1: fifty three point four. Where you're at forty point eight,
Speaker 1: Which route do you go? Do you stick with the
Speaker 1: do you stick with? Do you stick with what you know?
Speaker 1: You're that we know that the textsans struggle defending the past,
Speaker 1: and on first down they're pretty good playing first down
Speaker 1: run defense. I'm just trying to figure out a way
Speaker 1: to attack them so you don't get in long yarded
Speaker 1: situations to start to start to drive. The first play
Speaker 1: of the game last week, Zeke runs right for a yard. Yeah,
Speaker 1: second first down on their second drive, that's the thirty
Speaker 1: one yard or to swim, you know, lay So and
Speaker 1: they've done that. They've they've was second game of the season,
Speaker 1: they opened up spread and they go pass. I'm just
Speaker 1: trying to think of the best way to attack the
Speaker 1: texts and say, you don't get in that situation where
Speaker 1: you're wearing Clowney and Watton those guys and merciless around
Speaker 1: ther neck the whole day. Well, part of it, I
Speaker 1: think is what do you what do you do better? Yeah,
Speaker 1: do you run the ball better? Or do you throw
Speaker 1: the ball? The numbers tell you run the ball better?
Speaker 1: And and how would you protect your offensive line the best.
Speaker 1: I don't need the numbers to know they run the
Speaker 1: ball better? But but but but do they? But can they?
Speaker 1: But one thing is the numbers show that that the
Speaker 1: Texans play well on first down when you run the ball.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying against the Cowboys. I'm just saying, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm trying to formulate a game plan, and I know
Speaker 1: you have to have Okay, first down. First down dictates
Speaker 1: a lot what this team is able to do. Let's
Speaker 1: let's be honest about that, you know. So, so here's
Speaker 1: the stat I want. When they run on first down? Yeah,
Speaker 1: what formation are they running on? Yeah? Like, are they
Speaker 1: are are they Are they in two two tight to
Speaker 1: wide receiver, come out in thirteen and everybody knows you're
Speaker 1: gonna run yea? Or are you in three tight, one
Speaker 1: wide receiver? Or how about spreading them out and then
Speaker 1: hand the ball off on first down? They do that,
Speaker 1: they run out a different person I know, but it
Speaker 1: seems like to start the game. That's not what they do.
Speaker 1: It's two tight ends. It's a more conservative let's protect
Speaker 1: our offensive line approach, I think more than anything else.
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to the phone line and James
Speaker 1: in New York City. Hello, James, we're good. James. Take
Speaker 1: three steps to your left. Hello, James's got too many
Speaker 1: big buildings around him. We've lost. How about this offensively,
Speaker 1: you're twenty fifth in the league on average yards to
Speaker 1: go on second down. The eight point four yards on
Speaker 1: second league averages eight point zero five, So you're twenty
Speaker 1: fifth in the league on average yards to go on
Speaker 1: second down. It's not the way they're used to. That's
Speaker 1: twenty fifth in the league right there, So you're almost
Speaker 1: eight yeah, eight and almost eight and a half yards
Speaker 1: almost nine yards needed on second down. They have got
Speaker 1: to find a way to win. I mean it's we're
Speaker 1: trying to tell you this. You gotta win on first down.
Speaker 1: How do you win on first down? How that's that?
Speaker 1: If you want a key to the game, Bill and
Speaker 1: Simon Friday, how do you win on first down? That's
Speaker 1: going to be because you do not. Again, you do
Speaker 1: not want Clowney and Watt and Merciless and these guys
Speaker 1: to tee off on yon second down. Even though you
Speaker 1: know you've seen some we saw better pass protection last week.
Speaker 1: I still don't. I just don't want that. I have
Speaker 1: visions of Carolina in my mind if they can't do that,
Speaker 1: where it's like yeah, second and twelve, third and twelve,
Speaker 1: third and ten, and you can't. You know, you can't
Speaker 1: ask Dak to be efficient that way. You know that's
Speaker 1: not the way this offense is built. So I'm with you.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know why. I just want to
Speaker 1: Whatever the plan is, it's gotta it's gotta work. It's
Speaker 1: got it's got to work on first down, whether it's
Speaker 1: running the football or throwing the football. I mean, I
Speaker 1: know that's captain obvious. There was the plan last week
Speaker 1: against Detroit. They're not very good against the run. Well,
Speaker 1: and was what this is gonna run. And what they
Speaker 1: do on the first series of the game, Yeah, they
Speaker 1: ran Zeke three straight times and he got stuffed on
Speaker 1: third and one. Yeah, and didn't get the first getting
Speaker 1: They're getting stuffed on third and one the last two weeks.
Speaker 1: That's not good for this team. Yeah, that's And then
Speaker 1: second series, are backed up at their own ten yard
Speaker 1: line and they run the pass to the tight end
Speaker 1: and they got out of the whole thirty one yard
Speaker 1: pickup and they were able to get some breathing room.
Speaker 1: And they were they but they were they mixed in
Speaker 1: run in pass, right, I think they need to mix
Speaker 1: in run and pass. We saw that plan against the
Speaker 1: Giants though, right, didn't we see more first down throws
Speaker 1: first play the game? More first down throws? Yeah, more
Speaker 1: first down throws. But I agree with you guys, I
Speaker 1: mean two running the football. That that's what the team's
Speaker 1: built to do. And maybe you're gonna say, you know what,
Speaker 1: Texans might be good on first down, We're still gonna
Speaker 1: run the football. We're still gonna we're still gonna come
Speaker 1: out on first down and run the ball. I think
Speaker 1: that's you know, to me, that makes makes a lot
Speaker 1: of sense. But then again, I see the Texans just
Speaker 1: you know, they have no just their past defense in
Speaker 1: the secondary is horrendous. They have gotten thirty first downs
Speaker 1: running the ball, thirty six first downs passing the ball.
Speaker 1: That's against the Texans or the Cowboy the Cowboys for
Speaker 1: four games. Yeah, yeah, ten by penalty. Well that I
Speaker 1: mean there should be a bigger disparity, don't you think.
Speaker 1: Let's let's I mean check out Jacksonville. They've got seventy
Speaker 1: nine first downs, twenty running and fifty seven passing. So
Speaker 1: they just kind of shows you when you're passing, offense
Speaker 1: is not functioning. Well, yeah, that disparity should be larger
Speaker 1: to me, Yeah, I don't the Giants sixteen first downs running,
Speaker 1: fifty three passing. Well, the Rams, they're all looking at
Speaker 1: the numbers, were all radio looking up number. I'm saying
Speaker 1: the Rams thirty two first downs rushing, sixty four passing.
Speaker 1: I just think you have to come up with something.
Speaker 1: You have to come up and that's their job, you know.
Speaker 1: I'm just interested to see what they decide. Okay, take
Speaker 1: us behind the scenes here and as they formulate a
Speaker 1: game plan, how much do they rely on numbers? Like
Speaker 1: we're looking up numbers here. I think you have much
Speaker 1: to analytics come into play. I think Jason Garrett understands analytics.
Speaker 1: I think he does, but I think he's like his father,
Speaker 1: an old school let's look at the tape and what
Speaker 1: do we do well kind of a guy. What do
Speaker 1: they do well? Yeah, what do they do well? What
Speaker 1: do you do well? I think that you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: you could say, you know, these numbers are fascinating. It
Speaker 1: does tell a tale of what's going on. But you
Speaker 1: know where we're Jason Garret's probably looking at this like,
Speaker 1: you know, I feel like we're good enough to on
Speaker 1: first down to run the football. I feel like we're
Speaker 1: good enough. And the numbers tell you, you know, the
Speaker 1: analytics tell you that they that they can run the
Speaker 1: football on first down. The analytics also tell you that
Speaker 1: the Houston Texans can stop the run on first down.
Speaker 1: Something's gonna give there. I know it's an old saying,
Speaker 1: but that's that's really the way it is. You know.
Speaker 1: It's interesting this summer I'd talked with Tony Romo and
Speaker 1: he thought one of the keys to the Cowboys season
Speaker 1: is going to be this stretch of after they get
Speaker 1: four games in and with This is like from the
Speaker 1: from the opposition standpoint, Now they got four games to
Speaker 1: go on what the Cowboys are doing offensively, and it's
Speaker 1: how the Cowboys improve from week five through week eight
Speaker 1: or nine is going to tell the tale of their
Speaker 1: season and how they adjust to what the what other teams,
Speaker 1: what other teams are doing. But also they've incorporated brand
Speaker 1: new receivers in here and trying to figure out what
Speaker 1: they are here in the first four weeks of the season.
Speaker 1: So it's been it's very fortunate, I think on the
Speaker 1: Cowboys part that Brett Maher made that field goal, so
Speaker 1: they're sitting here at five hundred going into the second
Speaker 1: quarter of the season. But that's what Romo was saying,
Speaker 1: And when teams scout other teams, it's basically the last
Speaker 1: four games they take a look at. Even when you
Speaker 1: go to week twelve of the season, they're looking back
Speaker 1: at weeks nine or eight through eleven to see to
Speaker 1: scout and see how teams are playing, because teams changed
Speaker 1: as the season goes along, and so I just think
Speaker 1: it's a very critical stretch of the season that the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are hitting right now, and we're going to find
Speaker 1: out what they have in the passing game the next quarters. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and as Mickey said, as Mickey Wright in that because
Speaker 1: Mickey's been saying, well, they need time to gel and
Speaker 1: I agree with that because of lack of preseason time
Speaker 1: all the new faces. They've played two home games. They've
Speaker 1: been a lot better at home. But here's a test,
Speaker 1: and for a guy like Michael Gallup. I mean, it
Speaker 1: was expected for Mike and I believe I thought coming
Speaker 1: into the year, it's too much to expect of a
Speaker 1: rookie to be able to step in and have consistent
Speaker 1: play right off the bat. He's got four games under
Speaker 1: his belt now. Now he hadn't been out there for
Speaker 1: every snap obviously, but we can expect more from Michael
Speaker 1: Gallup as the season goes along. I believe I would hope,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I trust me. I had Michael
Speaker 1: Gallup as one of the better college players in the
Speaker 1: country last year. You know, I was expecting the separation,
Speaker 1: the route running, the you know, some of the things
Speaker 1: that we saw at Colorado State. I understand why the
Speaker 1: Cowboys took him. I thought Michael Gallup should probably been
Speaker 1: selected higher than where he was, I know, third round grade,
Speaker 1: but it was still yeah, it's I totally agree with Mickey.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm let's let's get him the football. Let's rookie.
Speaker 1: What rookie has the most wide receptions? Now, Christian kirk
Speaker 1: Y sixteen? Yeah, yeah, so that's four again catches is
Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley have he's got fifteen? How many touchdowns do have? Four?
Speaker 1: I can tell you that six. He's got six touchdowns?
Speaker 1: How many team catching catches? Pretty good ratio. That's a
Speaker 1: you know, it's a team that throws the ball really
Speaker 1: well exactly, it's a team that's got a you know,
Speaker 1: they go downfield. He's got a problem reminiver on the
Speaker 1: other side. And there's no other rookie in the top
Speaker 1: fifty and not counting running bats because Barkley's got the most,
Speaker 1: probably because of what he did against the was it
Speaker 1: the Cowboys or who did he have on? Now? He
Speaker 1: had a ton against us? And then uh, Carrie on
Speaker 1: Johnson has eleven catches, but no other rookie wide receiver
Speaker 1: has more than eleven catches. Well, we've talked about it
Speaker 1: takes longer to transition in the league. Okay, So I'm
Speaker 1: also confused on that first down stat because this here
Speaker 1: the NFL official Stats says the Cowboys are gaining six
Speaker 1: point one three yards on first down. They've had one
Speaker 1: hundred and eight first down plays, and it says they're
Speaker 1: averaging six point one three yards per play, and the
Speaker 1: defense is first in the league at three point six
Speaker 1: three yards per play. So I don't know, we have
Speaker 1: conflicting numbers. Should be four and oh yeah, now the
Speaker 1: numb with the numbers from the defense. But that's but
Speaker 1: that's very reminiscent of what it was like in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1: You know, it was a lot of second and four
Speaker 1: second and fives, a lot of those. It's just you
Speaker 1: and hey, let's let's maybe maybe they can pull things
Speaker 1: together this week with you know and get not get back.
Speaker 1: But they've run the ball really well the last two weeks.
Speaker 1: You think about Seattle and then last week against the Lions. Okay,
Speaker 1: I had to laugh this morning. The headline in the
Speaker 1: morning news, So what's been going on the first three
Speaker 1: games of the year. Is ze getting enough touches? And
Speaker 1: now it is? Is he getting too many? Out where
Speaker 1: we were just joking? Are you serious? Because was that
Speaker 1: a story today? Yes, that working on load leaves Zeke
Speaker 1: sore satisfied. Yeah, I love John Ma showed it too,
Speaker 1: And I don't think he probably wrote that headline, I know,
Speaker 1: and it wasn't really what the story was about, but
Speaker 1: the headline suggested that, oh, they might be using them
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Speaker 1: how are you good? Good good? Real quick? So, uh,
Speaker 1: this is what the youngest or second youngest team in
Speaker 1: the league, I think thirtyngest team in the league. Yeah,
Speaker 1: time to start looking for some coaches that can actually
Speaker 1: teach and not just coach. So young doesn't matter. Well, no,
Speaker 1: young doesn't matter. I know, I know that it does matter,
Speaker 1: but I just I guess I'm just as frustrated as
Speaker 1: all Cowboy fans are right now because we've seen this
Speaker 1: ride for twenty years and it's like we're never getting
Speaker 1: over the hump. And I feel like sometimes Jerry just
Speaker 1: wants to be relevant. Eight and eight, nine and seven. Hey,
Speaker 1: if we just win this game, we're there, We're in
Speaker 1: the playoffs, and unfortunately that puts us in the middle
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Speaker 1: because I remember those years I've been a Cowboys then
Speaker 1: since Roger stall By brought the Cowboys back against the
Speaker 1: Niners in that championship on that playoff game, I think
Speaker 1: we're just all frustrated and I just I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't know what we need to do as a team,
Speaker 1: but I just feel like we see a lot of
Speaker 1: mistakes during games, and I'm just wondering what you guys think,
Speaker 1: And I'll just take the what did you think? What
Speaker 1: did you think this team's record was going to be
Speaker 1: going in the season, knowing they were that young. I
Speaker 1: was thinking that we're going to be in the middle
Speaker 1: of the pack, to be honest with you, So what
Speaker 1: what record would that be? Yeah, so that they're kind
Speaker 1: of headed that way, you were probably right, huh Yeah.
Speaker 1: And like I said, I think it's just everybody, you know,
Speaker 1: Cowboys Nation is really frustrated. Give me a fix other
Speaker 1: than firing the head coach because they made a lot
Speaker 1: of changes in the coaching Yeah, new coach. If you
Speaker 1: just I don't want to deal with low hanging fruit,
Speaker 1: give me give me something that you're you're you've said
Speaker 1: you've been a Cowboy fan since nineteen seventy two when
Speaker 1: Roger stop back throw the ball to Ron Sellers right
Speaker 1: there and they wont in a playoff game and Tony
Speaker 1: fritzch on sidekicked Dick Nolan is a job. Absolutely did
Speaker 1: give me a fix other than fire the head coach,
Speaker 1: new offensive coordinator. Okay, okay, that's the second. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: other than the head Other than the head coach, the
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, give me a fixed overall on the team overall,
Speaker 1: as far as personnel, just anything. Do you guys mentioned
Speaker 1: this just earlier yesterday. Look what they're doing in Houston
Speaker 1: with that quarterback. Look what they're doing with Mahomes with
Speaker 1: that quarterback. We just start playing to our team strength,
Speaker 1: and I think we I know nobody wants to see
Speaker 1: Dak get hurt, but hey, if that's what I mean,
Speaker 1: if we have to start running him more, doing more
Speaker 1: our po is doing stuff like that, that's going to
Speaker 1: make the team more successful. On offense, I think the
Speaker 1: defense is just going to get better, especially if Irving
Speaker 1: can can get better, if Gregory can get better. I
Speaker 1: think it's the offense just needs to be a little
Speaker 1: bit more. I don't even know the word I want
Speaker 1: to use right now, but a little just see a
Speaker 1: little more imagination on the offense. I think we saw
Speaker 1: a little bit of that, you know last week. Okay,
Speaker 1: we need to just continue that, okay, and what okay,
Speaker 1: and tell me some other things about it. What did
Speaker 1: you like about the offense last week? Getting six more
Speaker 1: involved okay, finally seeing some tight ends step up and
Speaker 1: make some plays. Okay, stuff like that. Okay, And dak
Speaker 1: had three carries for two yards. Yeah. See, everybody thinks
Speaker 1: like Mahomes and Mayfield are running all over the place.
Speaker 1: They're not. They're throwing the ball. Yeah, they're winging it
Speaker 1: down field. Yeah. Different. The way the teams are built
Speaker 1: are different though too. Yeah. I mean, and you know,
Speaker 1: if you want to if you want to take what
Speaker 1: Andy Reid and them done. They took some chances on
Speaker 1: that that hill. You know, that guy was a sixth
Speaker 1: round pick, but he had no serious goodst violence, serious
Speaker 1: off the field. John Dorsey, John Dorsey traded up, gave
Speaker 1: a lot to go up and get. Mahomes had a
Speaker 1: really good feel for the quarterback. I mean, hey, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't if I'm okay, if you tell me that
Speaker 1: you want to see something different, just don't tell me
Speaker 1: about the coaches anymore. And I always say that's low
Speaker 1: hanging fruit. Don't do tell me tell me what, Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't like the way this team is built offensively,
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm just just saying for Joe and Flower
Speaker 1: Mount Dicamentura, Manny in Mexico City, I'm just doing all
Speaker 1: these guys, tell me what you think is different? You
Speaker 1: need one different about this team? Should should next year?
Speaker 1: Should this team go to a more passing based offense?
Speaker 1: Should it be about? Should it be about going out
Speaker 1: and getting receivers, maybe drafting one, maybe signing one, you
Speaker 1: know what, drafting another quarterback or whatever. Give me. Give
Speaker 1: me those kinds of things, the coach and stuff. I
Speaker 1: don't care about that. I want to know what people
Speaker 1: will do differently for this team. That's what I would
Speaker 1: offensively and defensively. If you tell me that, and you
Speaker 1: know I'm with you, but to just to say to
Speaker 1: fire the coach, letting me be that guy, I'll be
Speaker 1: the bad guy. You know, you come up, you come
Speaker 1: up with answers why what you think needs to be
Speaker 1: different here? You know, I'd love to see them be
Speaker 1: able to like have a guy like Pat Mahomes play,
Speaker 1: you know one of them. Would you look at that
Speaker 1: Detroit game. Love the weapons the Kansas City has, the
Speaker 1: way the Dallas defense played against Detroit. They beat Kansas
Speaker 1: by the way last year. All right. The Cowboys offense
Speaker 1: does not get enough credit for what happened in that
Speaker 1: Detroit game and how it helped the Dallas defense. No question.
Speaker 1: In that second half of the game, Detroit had three possessions. Yes,
Speaker 1: they scored touchdowns on two of those possessions. They had
Speaker 1: a three and out to start the second half, and
Speaker 1: then they and it was like a knife through Butter
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford through the Dallas the defense. Yeah, okay, and
Speaker 1: but that's not it's not exciting football when you hold
Speaker 1: the ball for eight and a half minute. Oh it
Speaker 1: is to me. It is to me there watching and
Speaker 1: keep holding it for another two minutes. Yeah, exactly. But
Speaker 1: you're not making passes all over the field like Pat
Speaker 1: Mahomes does or Proctor Mayfield when you're doing that, But
Speaker 1: you're helping your team win a football game because your
Speaker 1: defense was not at its best in that game against Detroit,
Speaker 1: and you needed to keep that football out of the
Speaker 1: other team's hands that day. And the Dallas offense was
Speaker 1: able to help do that because of the way they
Speaker 1: and that's the blueprint for success for this team. When
Speaker 1: you go back, the Dallas offense helped the Dallas defense
Speaker 1: two years ago in twenty sixteen, by the way they
Speaker 1: got ahead. I remember keeping track every week the first
Speaker 1: drive of the game, weekend, week out, they go eighty
Speaker 1: yards at seven points and play from ahead the entire afternoon.
Speaker 1: The if you look at the way they say the
Speaker 1: Chiefs are built four dynamic players in key spots. They
Speaker 1: got a dynamic tight end. They've got a young quarterback
Speaker 1: that they're that they're have confidence in. They got a
Speaker 1: really good running back. And then you look at what
Speaker 1: hill I mean, see how many dynamic players do you
Speaker 1: have offensively for the cowboy they're trying to go by committee.
Speaker 1: It's skill sets, I'm saying, they don't. You got Zeke? Yeah,
Speaker 1: they got Zeke. And if you and if you ask
Speaker 1: personnel guys around the league, they will tell you, hey,
Speaker 1: I'll take your right guard, I'll take your center when
Speaker 1: he's healthy, and i'll take your running back. You know
Speaker 1: they're not taking anything else you got here. So and two,
Speaker 1: you find a way to get those types of dynamic players.
Speaker 1: You gotta play with how you could play, and it's
Speaker 1: not gonna be you know, it's not gonna be. Yeah,
Speaker 1: fire the head coach, mediocre all that. No, I will
Speaker 1: say this, the head coach and the coach's dad had
Speaker 1: a hand in the direction they're going personnel wise. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you need more of those dynamic pieces. That's why
Speaker 1: when you're talking about how to attack Houston Sunday night, Yes,
Speaker 1: my gut says, and I know you don't want to
Speaker 1: bang your head against the wall, but my gut says,
Speaker 1: handed to my best player, I'll try to get him
Speaker 1: involved some way. Totally. If I lose that way, I'm
Speaker 1: okay with Detroit. Detroit had the ball in the second
Speaker 1: half for nine minutes and twenty four seconds. Yeah, out
Speaker 1: of thirty. Cowboys also ran sixty five plays in the game.
Speaker 1: That's by far the most they have all season long
Speaker 1: to Troit head in the second half, they had sixteen
Speaker 1: offensive plays in the second they score. Matt Stafford got
Speaker 1: a lot out of the exactly right. Yeah. See, this
Speaker 1: is this is where I you know, if if and
Speaker 1: maybe all this changes next year when they say, okay,
Speaker 1: you know, hey, if there's a new coach or whatever,
Speaker 1: new direction. But this is where they could say, Okay,
Speaker 1: let's okay, we got a running back, Okay, let's go
Speaker 1: get a dynamic receiver. Hey, let's play with let's go
Speaker 1: get a better tight end. You know. And they they
Speaker 1: had opportunities to do that in the draft the last
Speaker 1: couple of years if they wanted to, but they took
Speaker 1: vanderh I totally get Yeah, when you look, especially at
Speaker 1: last year's draft. Yeah, they felt like they had to
Speaker 1: shore up that defense. Yeah, and you know, they drafted
Speaker 1: Taco in the first round, they take Cheeto in the
Speaker 1: second round, they take a cornerback Jordan Lewis in the
Speaker 1: third round as well, right, and they had to invest
Speaker 1: in the defense at that point. They felt like that
Speaker 1: they seventeen million dollars on the left end. Yeah, if
Speaker 1: you think about it, Yeah, and that counts. The guy
Speaker 1: I wanted them to take last year, well, in the
Speaker 1: second round was Juju Smith Schuster. Yeah, but I don't don't.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm talking, Yeah, he's turning into and But
Speaker 1: but I don't fault them for not doing that because
Speaker 1: they had to make their decision. You got to make
Speaker 1: that decision. How are you building your team? Yes, and
Speaker 1: they decided that Cheetoh was a better investment for their
Speaker 1: team right then, and Mac then still and you're you know,
Speaker 1: you're they had needs both ways. I thought I thought
Speaker 1: they needed a wide receiver, to a young one to
Speaker 1: who could be that guy. Whatever they decided to go
Speaker 1: the other direction, that's great, I mean, Michael, Michael Gallup
Speaker 1: develops it could be Yeah, this year, this year they
Speaker 1: decide in the second round take Connor Williams at fifty
Speaker 1: instead of maybe either trading for an Earl Thomas, or
Speaker 1: they could have taken Dallas Goddard if they wanted to,
Speaker 1: as they could have taken a tight end. No, that
Speaker 1: Wittes situation. Yeah, okay, but and now you look at
Speaker 1: it with what happened with Travis Frederick. Thank god they
Speaker 1: took Connor Williams. Okay, because what are you're looking at
Speaker 1: in the interior? You're there if you didn't take a
Speaker 1: second round offensive linement, right, you were back to playing
Speaker 1: with guys that Mickey and I were questioning whether they
Speaker 1: were really good enough. You know. So I'm not sitting
Speaker 1: here defending I understand why they did what they did,
Speaker 1: but to say you know your fixes if you want
Speaker 1: to go away from just the run base offense, did
Speaker 1: go out and you're gonna have to get those weapons
Speaker 1: that we talked just said about a minute ago. Build that.
Speaker 1: That's exactly right. You know that you've got to go
Speaker 1: out and find a way to help the quarterback. Go
Speaker 1: get him a receiver, Go get him a tight end.
Speaker 1: You got one of the best damn running backs in
Speaker 1: the National Football League, and you got an offensive line
Speaker 1: that's good enough to run the football. I do. I
Speaker 1: talked to and I coaches round the league. They are
Speaker 1: very envious of Dallas's ability to run the football. And
Speaker 1: these are coaches that throw the ball all over the part,
Speaker 1: especially act as the season goes along, yes, you know,
Speaker 1: as you get cold weather games, bad weather whatever. You know,
Speaker 1: as a season where it's gonna be some tough games
Speaker 1: down the stretch, you're gonna have to have an eight
Speaker 1: minute drive to maybe get this thing in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: But that's the case. But I think if you look
Speaker 1: at the master plan from three years ago or in
Speaker 1: coming off the twenty sixteen season, they felt like they
Speaker 1: had to shore up the defense because that is basically
Speaker 1: the offensive game plan for the Cowboys is rely on
Speaker 1: on that running game and with the quarterback that they've got. Okay,
Speaker 1: then they had to build up that defense because they're
Speaker 1: going to play a lot of close games. Well, they
Speaker 1: also know it's an offensive line that at that time
Speaker 1: is right maybe unquestionably the best in the league and
Speaker 1: now has undergone some transition. Right now, Well, how about
Speaker 1: they didn't expect Yeah, how about the retirements though they've had,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean the Doug Free one, you know
Speaker 1: that happened a couple of years ago, Jason Witten, that
Speaker 1: the decline of Dez Bryant. I mean, some things that
Speaker 1: happened to them that they had planned in that all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, it's like, well, you know, Winton, but
Speaker 1: the two days before the draft is basically saying, I've
Speaker 1: got to make a decision. I think I'm gonna retire.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think that should have affected
Speaker 1: their their drafting at all. But but but they're counting
Speaker 1: on they're counting on guys. I mean, they didn't count
Speaker 1: on Dez Bryant just completely going off the cliff, right,
Speaker 1: you know, with the ability we'll see all right, See
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