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<v Speaker 1>Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics,

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<v Speaker 1>where we discussed the top political headlines with some of

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<v Speaker 1>today's best minds and a few research centers. Study found

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<v Speaker 1>a fifty three percent of you as adults rated America's.

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<v Speaker 2>Morals and ethics as bad.

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<v Speaker 1>We have situhow for you today ms Now's own Ali Bell.

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<v Speaker 1>She stops by to talk about Epstein and the economy

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<v Speaker 1>and the third Golf War. Then we'll talk to Semaphore's

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<v Speaker 1>Dave Weigel about the mid term battles he's watching.

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<v Speaker 2>But first the news.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Bali, we did not get to tape yesterday,

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<v Speaker 3>so we did not get to discuss that Christine Nobles out.

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<v Speaker 3>Mark Wayne Mullin is in. I like to think of

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<v Speaker 3>him as the senator from Idiocracy because he talks like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Wwayne Mullin, do.

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<v Speaker 3>You share my sentiment that Trump probably hired him because

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<v Speaker 3>he's the most belligerent responder to any reporter at any pushback.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, I think Mark Wayne had been like on

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<v Speaker 1>a tour or on an audition tour. Remember, Trump's hiring

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<v Speaker 1>tends to reflect who he thinks will be good on television,

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<v Speaker 1>so this makes a lot of sense that Mark Wayne

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<v Speaker 1>would catch his eye. Mark Wayne has been like every

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<v Speaker 1>camera he's seen, he's ran to look. Mark Wayne is

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<v Speaker 1>an interesting guy because he is quite stupid, and he

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<v Speaker 1>speaks in a very you know, it's not entirely clear

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<v Speaker 1>what he's talking about a lot of time. He is, however,

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<v Speaker 1>a US senator, which makes me wonder, like I do

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<v Speaker 1>wonder why. You know, Mark Wayne is from a very

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<v Speaker 1>red state, and I don't totally understand why you take

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<v Speaker 1>this job, Like you know, I mean, there's not going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a third Trump administration. There's no way Christy

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<v Speaker 1>Nome is going to be the last cabinet member to

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<v Speaker 1>be fired. She's likely the first.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's also remember he's one of the senators who's most

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<v Speaker 3>enriched himself with stocks too, so he's giving that up shockingly, right,

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<v Speaker 3>I know.

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<v Speaker 1>To just enrich himself from working in the admin, which

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<v Speaker 1>I think he'll probably do too.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems like Christy did exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about Christy Nomes's hearings, one in

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<v Speaker 1>the Senate, one in the House. In the Senate, there

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<v Speaker 1>were a couple moments that I think really or clearly

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<v Speaker 1>the reporting says sealed her fate. One was the Louisiana

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<v Speaker 1>Senator John Kennedy who asked her why she had spent

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred and twenty million dollars on advertisements with her

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<v Speaker 1>face on them, and she said Trump signed off on it,

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<v Speaker 1>and then Trump said he didn't sign off on it,

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<v Speaker 1>leading us to like one of these weird moments in

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's second term where it is as likely that he

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<v Speaker 1>is lying that she is lying discuss.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's the right hypothesis, but like, you can't believe

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<v Speaker 3>like this amount of advertising for something like this, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's why we see her everywhere in the freaking airports,

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<v Speaker 3>everywhere you can look. That's even aside from the fact

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<v Speaker 3>that it seems like a lot of this fucking graft

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<v Speaker 3>that never happened, none of it when anywhere, and we

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<v Speaker 3>still see her fucking face everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, every time you go on a TSA line, there

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<v Speaker 1>she is with the cowboy hat. But I do think

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty interesting that, like we have more and more

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<v Speaker 1>moments in Trump two point zero where you absolutely have

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<v Speaker 1>no idea who's lying, because there's as much a likelihood

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<v Speaker 1>that Donald Trump said it's okay that she ran it

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<v Speaker 1>by him, right. But what I thought was really interesting

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<v Speaker 1>about those hearings, and I want to talk about it

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<v Speaker 1>for a minute. And I actually talked to some members

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<v Speaker 1>of Congress about this because I was curious what.

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<v Speaker 2>The reasoning was.

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<v Speaker 1>They kept asking, Uh, there was a California congresswoman and

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<v Speaker 1>then Jared Moskowitz this is the next day, and in

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<v Speaker 1>the Congress there was this this California congresswoman said are

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<v Speaker 1>you having sexual relationships with Corey Lewandowski? And it was interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>She said, oh, this is tabloid gossip and.

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<v Speaker 3>Muttered it up slut shaving.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you know what, she didn't say.

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<v Speaker 4>That she's not doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Jared Mosfoot's friend of the pod asked her

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<v Speaker 1>again later on and said, here's an opportunity for you

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<v Speaker 1>to set the record straight.

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<v Speaker 2>And again yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Shot back, no denial, just said he's slutshaving her and

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<v Speaker 3>it's nuts.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's an interesting thing. So she is refusing to

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<v Speaker 1>perjure herself on this, yep. And it's interesting to me

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<v Speaker 1>because like there are clearly people in this administration who

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<v Speaker 1>perjure themselves all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, we're about to see Pam Bondi held accountable for

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<v Speaker 3>instancee they're bringing her back to the standard girl eying about.

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<v Speaker 1>Her exactly, So it's just interesting to me. And then

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<v Speaker 1>also another interesting thing was and what we should have

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<v Speaker 1>seen where it was really out of control was on Thursday,

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<v Speaker 1>she had her husband sitting behind her and then she

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<v Speaker 1>said he need to catch a flight, so he missed

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<v Speaker 1>when the congress woman asked her if she was having

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<v Speaker 1>sexual relationships with Coreyla Nandawski, I'm sure that Christy Nolmes

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<v Speaker 1>husband is glad he wasn't there for that.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it turns out Corey's very good at buying ads

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<v Speaker 3>inside Trump media organizations for her. But yes, we have

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<v Speaker 3>other fish to fry. Molly, he's not going.

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<v Speaker 1>To stay for the Marcoyne at dude is shockingly he's out.

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<v Speaker 3>Just now they said he's out yet, So Bai, we

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<v Speaker 3>got to talk about a fellow named Congressman Tony Gonzalez

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<v Speaker 3>who we've been talking about a bud share for those

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<v Speaker 3>who aren't up to speed. He was texting a staffer

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<v Speaker 3>wooed things at one in the morning, making sexual advances

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<v Speaker 3>to her that she lit herself on fire. Now fast

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<v Speaker 3>forward to that he has dropped out and this leaves

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<v Speaker 3>one Brandon Herreraz, the nominee in this district, who brags

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<v Speaker 3>about having a really good copy of mind cuff, goose

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<v Speaker 3>steps and videos to white power songs, all sorts of

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<v Speaker 3>just unhinged white power Nazi stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>First, let's talk about Gonzales because this is really important.

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<v Speaker 1>The entire Gonzales staff basically had a mutiny, at least

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<v Speaker 1>in that district office where the woman killed herself. You

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<v Speaker 1>had other staffers talking about how he wouldn't show up

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<v Speaker 1>at the office and how she had shown her coworkers

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<v Speaker 1>the texts. The texts were really seemed as if they

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<v Speaker 1>were really bordering on sexual harassment. So they may have

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<v Speaker 1>had an affair, but then it did certainly seem as

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<v Speaker 1>if there was a lot of one sided stuff there.

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<v Speaker 1>She did light herself on fire, which is pretty awful,

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<v Speaker 1>and he did try and spin this as like he

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<v Speaker 1>went on a conservative podcast. He said that his wife

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<v Speaker 1>and God had forgiven him. I think that this is

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<v Speaker 1>a really I think it's it's worth talking about this

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<v Speaker 1>for a second because there are a bunch of MAGA

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<v Speaker 1>members of Congress who are women, and that's MTG.

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<v Speaker 2>Is out now.

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<v Speaker 1>But Nancy Mace, Lauren Boepert, who said that they would

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<v Speaker 1>start ethics investigations on Gonzales if he did not resign

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<v Speaker 1>now again or he did not drop out from running again.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that what's interesting here is, look, Mike Johnson,

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<v Speaker 1>who is supposedly super Christian and super religious and cares

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<v Speaker 1>about the family, will not tell Tony Gonzalez to drop out.

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<v Speaker 1>That's because Republicans have a one seat majority and Mike

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson still wants to be the Speaker of the House.

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<v Speaker 1>But he can't say that because he's just such a hypocrite.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's sort of saying, well, it's up to him.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, it's really watching Mike Johnson defend Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>It is at real everything Trump touches die stuff. But

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<v Speaker 1>also these women have decided some of these maga women

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<v Speaker 1>are so sort of mad, Mike Johnson. You'll remember that

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<v Speaker 1>Annie Carney reporting from earlier this year. They're mad like

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<v Speaker 1>they're not on they're not heads of committees. These women

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<v Speaker 1>have really been sort of sidelined. We're seeing Staphonic is

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<v Speaker 1>not running again. A lot of women are trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get out of the House. You know, there's only so

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<v Speaker 1>much sexism and misogyny you can practice on the women

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<v Speaker 1>in your party before they start to push back. And

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<v Speaker 1>so as much as this Gonzales story is a terrible story,

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<v Speaker 1>it also shows a little bit that the women of

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<v Speaker 1>the House Maga Caucus are actually sort.

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<v Speaker 2>Of pushing back.

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<v Speaker 1>Which we shouldn't congratulate them for it by any stretch

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<v Speaker 1>of the imagination, but I do think it's noteworthy.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's another thing where we keep seeing that

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<v Speaker 3>the actions of this party's of morality keep shipping away

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<v Speaker 3>at its core and falling off some people.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but it's also like they thought they could take

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<v Speaker 1>the women back to the nineteen fifties, but actually, like

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<v Speaker 1>some of that is just to die, is so cast

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<v Speaker 1>there's nothing you can do hard agree.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to take us back to when Jimmy Carter

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<v Speaker 3>supposedly ruined his presidency with the Debbie Downer speech. How

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<v Speaker 3>do you think that compares to when Trump is asked

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<v Speaker 3>if Americans should worry about I read retaliating on US soil?

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<v Speaker 3>He said, I guess, like I said, some people will die.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, for you and I who came of age

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<v Speaker 1>during the Gulf War two and also GO four one,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I lived through nine to eleven, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>something so incredibly disturbing about a president who's basically like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if it happens again, it happens again. We

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<v Speaker 1>should be so focused on preventing this kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of disturbing to have a president who just

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<v Speaker 1>seems as if he's kind of agnostic to the possible

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<v Speaker 1>killing of Americans. You know, I like what he says.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, I'm not convinced the quote is better.

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<v Speaker 1>We're six days into this war. You know, Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>has spent six billion dollars because the war costs more

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<v Speaker 1>than a billion dollars a day, somewhere between one and two.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump responds, So he's talking to everybody in the world

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<v Speaker 1>because he's trying to sell the war now that he's

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<v Speaker 1>already in it. A lot of people would have tried

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<v Speaker 1>to sell the war before. But okay, he said, I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think they're worried about that all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>We think about it all the time. We planned for it,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, we expect some things. The longer quote

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<v Speaker 1>is even worse. Like I said, some people will die.

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<v Speaker 1>President added, when you go to war, some people will die.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, who's not serving in this war, anyone with

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<v Speaker 1>their last name Trump or vance yep I mean, just

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<v Speaker 1>to watch them completely stop pretending at all to be

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<v Speaker 1>for anything but the worst possible stuff is amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>Some lastly, Molly, the Trump administration says, it's just doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>have the time to get to these terra free funds

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<v Speaker 3>for US pleabs.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to point out the Supreme Court said no more,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't do the tariffs. They are illegal, and so

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<v Speaker 1>they're supposed to issue refunds. And we have all these

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<v Speaker 1>big companies that are now suing the Admin for refunds,

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<v Speaker 1>and Trump is like, sorry, we can't comply with the

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<v Speaker 1>order to start terraf refunds.

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<v Speaker 2>Why not? Why not? Here's my question, why the fuck not?

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<v Speaker 3>Where there's no will, there's no way.

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<v Speaker 1>A key tension in the refunds saw guys emerged. It

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<v Speaker 1>should not be a saga. The court wants to move

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<v Speaker 1>fast and get refunds out the door, but the government

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump, They're going to send you the check, but

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome, Welcome, Ali Beauchi.

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<v Speaker 5>This is fun. Got to be with you here. I

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<v Speaker 5>don't really have you on my show this. I've got

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<v Speaker 5>to be in the receiving end. If I've done anything

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<v Speaker 5>wrong to you, You're going to fix that right.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, certainly not.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm a fan of yours, and actually this

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<v Speaker 1>is the moment. You know, there are so many things

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<v Speaker 1>that you and I are both interested in that are

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<v Speaker 1>happening at this very moment, and I think we have

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<v Speaker 1>to I think we should start with the Epstein files

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<v Speaker 1>being back.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you saw this, but this Trump news that

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<v Speaker 1>Trump had put I mean, this is just senior Department.

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<v Speaker 1>Justice Department publishes documents with sexual allegations against Trump.

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<v Speaker 5>They're back, yes, yeah. And here's the thing I think

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<v Speaker 5>about this, Admitisi's Trump administration from the Department of Justice

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<v Speaker 5>on is all about loyalists, right, Like people have to

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<v Speaker 5>be reminded. Pam Bondy was Donald Trump's lawyer. Todd Blanch

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<v Speaker 5>was Donald Trump's layer. And the thing people need to

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<v Speaker 5>think about is that when you're somebody's lawyer, your legal

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<v Speaker 5>obligation to them and to your attorney client privilege never ends.

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<v Speaker 5>If they stop being your lawyer, they're still they cannot

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<v Speaker 5>tell the public things that you've discussed with them.

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<v Speaker 2>Number one.

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<v Speaker 5>Number two, this is why you don't have your lawyers

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<v Speaker 5>do this stuff, because this will all come out one day.

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<v Speaker 5>It may not come out during the Trump administration. It

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<v Speaker 5>may come out after the midterm elections when the Trump

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<v Speaker 5>administration realizes they're in real trouble. It may come out

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<v Speaker 5>when Todd blanch and Pam BONDI realized that they do

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<v Speaker 5>not have the protections against prosecution for lying under oath

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<v Speaker 5>that Donald Trump has. But it will come out one day.

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<v Speaker 5>There will be a real administration, a real Department of

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<v Speaker 5>Justice that will get to the bottom of this, and

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<v Speaker 5>they'll get all the documents and they will actually speak

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<v Speaker 5>to the actual witnesses and the truth will come out.

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<v Speaker 5>My concern, Molly is that as I cover this war

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<v Speaker 5>in Iran, I'm thinking to myself, is this the Epstein War?

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<v Speaker 4>Like?

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<v Speaker 5>Is all that happens now a way to get you

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<v Speaker 5>to stop talking about Epstein on a daily basis?

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, this is my theory of the case. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>It's a war without a cause. It's sort of wag

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<v Speaker 1>the dog, except.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a real place.

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<v Speaker 5>If you actually had a cause, you could say, well,

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<v Speaker 5>we needed to actually have this war with Iran. We're

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<v Speaker 5>that we're doing it now timing wise, But no one's

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<v Speaker 5>made the case. No one has actually made the case.

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<v Speaker 5>And on Saturday night, the first bodies will be brought

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<v Speaker 5>back from Iran, the first American bodies, six bodies, I

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<v Speaker 5>think five will be brought four or five will be

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<v Speaker 5>brought back On Saturday night, and that's where it's going

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<v Speaker 5>to start to hit home. I think we become numb

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<v Speaker 5>to this with all the death in Afghanistan and in Iraq.

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<v Speaker 5>But the fact is you're now going to see that

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<v Speaker 5>people are dying for you not really being able to

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<v Speaker 5>articulate a reasons for this war. And I remind people

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<v Speaker 5>it's not that long ago this administration led about stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>They said that Venezuela was about drugs, of that's all.

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<v Speaker 2>They said.

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<v Speaker 5>It was about pentanyl. There's no pedanel that comes from Venezuela.

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<v Speaker 5>Then they just generally said about drugs. But the boats

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<v Speaker 5>that they were bobbing were headed not to America and

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<v Speaker 5>couldn't get to America anyway. And then within an hour

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<v Speaker 5>of that thing, Donald Trump comes on and says it's

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<v Speaker 5>about the oil. Right, So they lied to us.

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<v Speaker 2>Then I don't know what the story is.

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<v Speaker 5>This oil is just something else.

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<v Speaker 2>What is this war about?

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<v Speaker 1>You're not supposed to say this, but Marco Rubio did

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<v Speaker 1>say it was because of Israel.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is too. Also weird are we renting.

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<v Speaker 5>Out our army now to our military whoever wants it?

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<v Speaker 2>And it's an insane thing to say.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, even if it's true, so much of American

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<v Speaker 1>life is built around the idea that it's not true.

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<v Speaker 2>But that was a shocking moment to me.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he walked it back, and then he got

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<v Speaker 1>mad at the journalist who asked the question, because ultimately

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<v Speaker 1>their enemy is not themselves, and they're shifting up explanations

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<v Speaker 1>for things, but instead the media that reminds them of it.

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<v Speaker 5>And one thing that was very notable that flew under

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<v Speaker 5>the radar this week is that like Trump, Netta, who's

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<v Speaker 5>got legal trouble and continuing to be the Prime Minister

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<v Speaker 5>of Israel, like Trump, is his best inoculation about against

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<v Speaker 5>getting into any sort of trouble. He's supposed to have

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<v Speaker 5>an election this year, it hasn't been called yet, which

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<v Speaker 5>is a little bit weird. And wars generally get people

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<v Speaker 5>to rally around the flag. But there has been some

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<v Speaker 5>pressure on the Israeli president Hertsog to harden Netaniaho and

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<v Speaker 5>he won't do it. So Trump threatened Hertzog with some

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<v Speaker 5>sort of personal sanctions on him for not part of

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<v Speaker 5>I mean talking. This is what a weird story. Donald

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<v Speaker 5>Trump's involved in internal Israeli politics now to protect Neataniel

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<v Speaker 5>like the world's upside.

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<v Speaker 1>Down, right, And I want to get to your idea

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<v Speaker 1>of rallying around the flag because I think it's important

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<v Speaker 1>to realize that this war is a war. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what it's a warrior, yeah, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>dragging in different you know, the Emirates are now involved

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<v Speaker 1>the UAE. I think it's very hard to keep this contained.

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<v Speaker 1>Is as unpopular as anything has ever been. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know who said this first, but Rick Wilson

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<v Speaker 1>always says it to me, which is, your war will

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<v Speaker 1>never be more popular than it is on day one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 5>Think about Afghanistan. That was a real rally around the flag.

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<v Speaker 5>Someone had attacked America and so America was attacking someone else.

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<v Speaker 2>And if people signed.

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<v Speaker 5>Up who weren't going to be in the military, people died,

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<v Speaker 5>and they still thought it was a cause worth fighting.

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<v Speaker 5>Then he get I rack a little less clear, but

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<v Speaker 5>the Bush administration made some effort to legally do what

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<v Speaker 5>it needed to do and sell it to Congress and

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<v Speaker 5>sell it to the UN.

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<v Speaker 2>Right they went.

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<v Speaker 5>He went to the UN two times to sell this war.

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<v Speaker 5>Then he got this, and it's not popular to start

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<v Speaker 5>with I was doing some looking at some polling the

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<v Speaker 5>other night. It was about about fifty nine percent of Americans.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that Donald Trump should have gotten authorizations from

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<v Speaker 5>Congress if he wanted to have a war, which maybe

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<v Speaker 5>it would have gotten.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe he wouldn't have sixty forty issues.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, And remember thirty five is Donald Trump's floor.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>We can literally set fire to people and they will

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<v Speaker 5>still thirty five percent of the population will still support him.

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<v Speaker 5>So very few people support this to start with. There's

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<v Speaker 5>no rallying round the flag because nobody understands why we're

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<v Speaker 5>doing this war. And they don't get more popular as

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<v Speaker 5>body bags come home and costs mount, and it's not

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<v Speaker 5>just your gas prices oils up fifteen percent, so your

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<v Speaker 5>gas prices will be up fifteen percent. Unlike tariff sware

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<v Speaker 5>company might say I'm going to save my customers from

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<v Speaker 5>this because they might go away. I might pass it on,

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<v Speaker 5>I might not pass it on. There's confusion about that.

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<v Speaker 5>There's no confusion about gas prices ever, boil those up.

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<v Speaker 5>Gas prices go up.

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<v Speaker 2>End of story. And then there's a third thing.

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<v Speaker 5>Afghanistan and I Rock cost us different estimates between four

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<v Speaker 5>and eight trillion dollars, which is a very big part

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<v Speaker 5>of our national debt now because it keeps mounting because

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<v Speaker 5>of interest. Right, so we're still paying the ice for

0:19:00.520 --> 0:19:03.800
<v Speaker 5>those two wars that maybe some people understood and maybe

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<v Speaker 5>some people supported.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody supports this one.

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<v Speaker 5>And it's between one and two billion dollars a day

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<v Speaker 5>so far that it's costing us.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah that I was.

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<v Speaker 1>Going to say at least a billion dollars a day.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're six days in or really and then the

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<v Speaker 1>straits of Hermuth, which hadn't been now is blocked. That's

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<v Speaker 1>twenty to twenty five percent of worldwide.

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<v Speaker 2>Oil and gas.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, So there's a theory of the case that said,

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<v Speaker 5>because we now know that Venezuela was about oil, if

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<v Speaker 5>you Venezuela's got more oil reserves than anyone in the world,

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<v Speaker 5>including Saudi Arabia. So if you can bring Venezuela into

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<v Speaker 5>America's orbit. Remember, this was not about the people of

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<v Speaker 5>Venezuela or democracy or anything else that was.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually see rodrigaz in there, correct.

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<v Speaker 5>So we'd have a puppet government in Venezuela, which is

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<v Speaker 5>kind of annoying to the Venezuela and diaspora who actually won.

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<v Speaker 2>These guys ousted, so they are fault for having any

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<v Speaker 2>faith in this administration.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, so now you have in theory, you've got access

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<v Speaker 5>to Venezuelan oil. So in theory, Iran blocking a fifth

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<v Speaker 5>of the world's oil from getting through the straight of

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<v Speaker 5>Horror moves is offset.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the theory.

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<v Speaker 5>The practice is that Venezuelan oil is for quality oil,

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<v Speaker 5>and because their infrastructure is so degraded, it's going to

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<v Speaker 5>take up to ten years to get that oil on

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<v Speaker 5>the market. So if you wanted to do this and

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<v Speaker 5>then ten years from now bomb Iran, you might actually say,

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<v Speaker 5>you know what, Iran's got no leverage over anybody right now,

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<v Speaker 5>That's just not true anymore. It runs for the moment,

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<v Speaker 5>it runs, got this leverage of the straight of hor moves.

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<v Speaker 1>But the hilarious bit of all of this is that

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<v Speaker 1>what Donald Trump has done is he's canceled all of

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<v Speaker 1>these clean energy projects. So China has you know, solar

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<v Speaker 1>and wind and all, and even nukes can do what

0:20:50.760 --> 0:20:54.960
<v Speaker 1>we need with much less environmental cost. And also once

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<v Speaker 1>you set up a solar point, you don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>pay for it anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>That's correct.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's a lot of things going on.

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<v Speaker 5>But the other thing about China that's worth keeping in

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<v Speaker 5>mind is we have sent these two strike carrier groups

0:21:05.080 --> 0:21:08.520
<v Speaker 5>to Iran right to prosecute this war. One of them

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<v Speaker 5>was in East Asia, and that was the security blanket

0:21:14.160 --> 0:21:16.879
<v Speaker 5>for Taiwan that there is a strike carrier group. We

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<v Speaker 5>could bring more in. But if China invades Taiwan, we've

0:21:20.000 --> 0:21:23.840
<v Speaker 5>actually got we we got allies, and we have a

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<v Speaker 5>military strength.

0:21:25.119 --> 0:21:26.720
<v Speaker 2>Now we moved it. Now it's gone.

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<v Speaker 5>Shannas might be sitting here thinking this is a good

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<v Speaker 5>time to take over Taiwan.

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<v Speaker 2>Now what's America going to do.

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<v Speaker 5>They've got a war in Iran that they need all

0:21:34.080 --> 0:21:36.639
<v Speaker 5>those terriers, and then they've got this war here. And

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<v Speaker 5>by the way, a lot of that naval power in

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<v Speaker 5>and around Iran is because of the Strait of Horror moves.

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<v Speaker 5>America is the only naval power that can push back

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<v Speaker 5>on Iran trying to mine the Straight of Horror Moves

0:21:48.359 --> 0:21:50.359
<v Speaker 5>or send missiles across. It's twenty one miles at its

0:21:50.440 --> 0:21:53.040
<v Speaker 5>narrowest point, so that's one channel this way and one

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<v Speaker 5>channel the other way. Here's the problem with that. Those

0:21:56.320 --> 0:21:59.520
<v Speaker 5>aren't military ships. Those are ships carrying goods. And oil

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<v Speaker 5>that has to be ensured. No one will insure you

0:22:03.440 --> 0:22:05.520
<v Speaker 5>to go through a war zone. Lloyd's of London will,

0:22:05.560 --> 0:22:08.840
<v Speaker 5>but it'll cost so much money that it's not worth it.

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<v Speaker 5>It will be worth it. So these ships, it's like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>maybe the American military is over here, the Iranian militaries

0:22:14.359 --> 0:22:16.800
<v Speaker 5>over here, and the American military will cancel out the

0:22:16.800 --> 0:22:20.480
<v Speaker 5>Iranian military as I sail my boat very slowly through

0:22:20.520 --> 0:22:22.720
<v Speaker 5>the Strait of horror moves. But how about I just

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<v Speaker 5>don't because how about I don't want to die and

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<v Speaker 5>I don't want my oil to all go into the ocean.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's a Venezuela problem too, is you have trouble

0:22:29.880 --> 0:22:33.960
<v Speaker 1>convincing American companies that it's worth the risk correct starting

0:22:33.960 --> 0:22:35.200
<v Speaker 1>a business there. Talk about that.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, remember, by the way, I just want to remind

0:22:37.080 --> 0:22:39.040
<v Speaker 5>you all about Somalia all those years ago, right ten

0:22:39.080 --> 0:22:41.760
<v Speaker 5>or fifteen years ago, with the Somali pirates were operating

0:22:42.400 --> 0:22:44.280
<v Speaker 5>in the Red Sea, and then around there these are

0:22:44.320 --> 0:22:47.320
<v Speaker 5>Somali pirates like these are guys on little bloat boats

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<v Speaker 5>with small guns who can at best jimmy up the

0:22:50.760 --> 0:22:53.640
<v Speaker 5>side of a boat and capture it, right and then

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<v Speaker 5>that's not quite clear what they're going to do with

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<v Speaker 5>that afterwards.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the Iranian military.

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<v Speaker 5>This is a country of ninety three million people that

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<v Speaker 5>has to one hundred and fifty active tix, one hundred

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<v Speaker 5>and fifty thousand active tubes proof and another three hundred

0:23:04.800 --> 0:23:06.639
<v Speaker 5>and fifty that they can draw on in reserve. So

0:23:06.680 --> 0:23:09.439
<v Speaker 5>a million troops on the ground. This is a massive

0:23:09.520 --> 0:23:12.800
<v Speaker 5>army with a massive navy, navy and missiles. This is

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<v Speaker 5>not from Ali pirates. Also the same situation with Venezuela,

0:23:16.480 --> 0:23:20.000
<v Speaker 5>we blockaded their oil. There was a sort of shadow

0:23:20.040 --> 0:23:23.600
<v Speaker 5>fleet that was moving oil because Venezuela is technically blockaded.

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<v Speaker 5>But the axis of resistance which we talk about with

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<v Speaker 5>Iran and Russia and North Korea actually involves Venezuela. Venezuela

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<v Speaker 5>was this node in that whole thing which has been lost.

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<v Speaker 5>But for the moment, there's mayhem in this situation. As

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<v Speaker 5>far as oil getting around the world, here's the interesting thing.

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<v Speaker 5>Most of Venezuela's oil was going to China. It's China,

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<v Speaker 5>while it's got nuclear and solar and wind, also uses

0:23:50.640 --> 0:23:52.720
<v Speaker 5>more oil than anyone else does and needs more oil

0:23:53.280 --> 0:23:55.960
<v Speaker 5>at the moment because they can't. They can't get that oil.

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<v Speaker 5>We may have just made things better for Iran because

0:23:58.800 --> 0:24:01.280
<v Speaker 5>they've got it built in by for all the oil

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<v Speaker 5>that China was getting from Venezuela. So this just doesn't

0:24:05.320 --> 0:24:07.399
<v Speaker 5>seem like anyone thought this out very well.

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<v Speaker 2>And if they did, tell us right and clearly.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if we know one thing about Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>he's never two moves ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>He's really just right where he is.

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<v Speaker 1>We are also in a moment where US shipbuilding has

0:24:21.240 --> 0:24:24.080
<v Speaker 1>been way behind, so all of a sudden, we need

0:24:24.119 --> 0:24:27.399
<v Speaker 1>a navy that we don't really have, right because the

0:24:27.440 --> 0:24:28.920
<v Speaker 1>shipbuilding has been into con.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and it's a weird situation to be waging either

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<v Speaker 5>war or needing a military presence in so many parts

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<v Speaker 5>of the world as we currently do now. So we

0:24:38.800 --> 0:24:41.120
<v Speaker 5>had these ships in Venezuela, then it took him a while.

0:24:41.160 --> 0:24:44.200
<v Speaker 5>They sailed through the strikes through Gibraltar into the Mediterranean,

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<v Speaker 5>which it can now be used for Iran. Then we

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<v Speaker 5>took the Abraham Lincoln Strike Group, moved it into the

0:24:49.600 --> 0:24:51.800
<v Speaker 5>Red seat, and then we've got this tension in Asia.

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<v Speaker 5>This would make sense if you're the non war president, right,

0:24:54.160 --> 0:24:57.400
<v Speaker 5>you're the the FIFA beef prize winning president, the first

0:24:57.440 --> 0:24:59.840
<v Speaker 5>one in history. You're a contender for the Nobel Prize

0:24:59.840 --> 0:25:03.359
<v Speaker 5>of apparently until Maschado gave Donald Trump hurt no belt.

0:25:03.480 --> 0:25:05.280
<v Speaker 2>Now he has one. So now he's got one.

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<v Speaker 5>Like, this is a weird position to be in if

0:25:07.560 --> 0:25:10.880
<v Speaker 5>you're this administration. Right, The administration says we're not doing

0:25:10.920 --> 0:25:13.399
<v Speaker 5>forever war. We're not going to be the worst. Wow,

0:25:13.840 --> 0:25:15.840
<v Speaker 5>we've got ruers and we don't have enough navy for

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<v Speaker 5>all the wars we either are in or might need

0:25:18.720 --> 0:25:19.080
<v Speaker 5>to be it.

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<v Speaker 1>The good news though, is FIFA is not going to

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<v Speaker 1>ask for that prize back.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct, weirdest thing in the world.

0:25:25.400 --> 0:25:28.080
<v Speaker 1>That, Yeah, it made a prize, you get to keep

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<v Speaker 1>I think the theory here, though, is that Trump. Why Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>I think thinks he's successful is because he does these sort.

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<v Speaker 2>Of regime change.

0:25:35.560 --> 0:25:38.480
<v Speaker 1>Without regime change, you keep the regime in but you

0:25:38.600 --> 0:25:40.080
<v Speaker 1>make it look like you're changing it.

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<v Speaker 5>But he can't do that, no, because it's really hard

0:25:43.720 --> 0:25:48.960
<v Speaker 5>and really complicated. So Venezuela, there's a Venezuelan diaspora that

0:25:48.960 --> 0:25:51.159
<v Speaker 5>would have been very supportive of Donald Trump getting rid

0:25:51.200 --> 0:25:54.720
<v Speaker 5>of the community right, right, But he did it right

0:25:54.760 --> 0:25:58.520
<v Speaker 5>and and Venezuelan society is many layers deep, because this

0:25:58.720 --> 0:26:01.120
<v Speaker 5>was not only Maduro but as before that, So for

0:26:01.200 --> 0:26:04.520
<v Speaker 5>decades it's been layers of everybody. So if you run

0:26:04.560 --> 0:26:08.840
<v Speaker 5>a museum or a nonprofit in Venezuela, you are you are.

0:26:08.880 --> 0:26:10.560
<v Speaker 5>Your fealty is to the party. That's just the way

0:26:10.560 --> 0:26:12.520
<v Speaker 5>it has to go. We learned this in We learned

0:26:12.520 --> 0:26:15.160
<v Speaker 5>this in Iraq. Right that you you thought you decapitated

0:26:15.160 --> 0:26:18.720
<v Speaker 5>the leader, but every institution in the country is people

0:26:18.720 --> 0:26:21.720
<v Speaker 5>who are are like minded. So that's the problem in Iran.

0:26:21.760 --> 0:26:24.399
<v Speaker 5>If you think Iraq was serious and you think Venezuela

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<v Speaker 5>is mired, Iraq's way more complicated than.

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<v Speaker 2>That, right, because it's a religious state.

0:26:30.320 --> 0:26:32.679
<v Speaker 5>So it's two parts. It's the religious state where this

0:26:32.760 --> 0:26:34.440
<v Speaker 5>is the prevalent of the pope. Right, it's it's the

0:26:34.520 --> 0:26:38.560
<v Speaker 5>Iyatola is a religious leader thought to be divinely inspired, right,

0:26:38.640 --> 0:26:41.160
<v Speaker 5>not like a president or prime minister. But on top

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<v Speaker 5>of that, the significant or an equal weight of power

0:26:45.080 --> 0:26:49.439
<v Speaker 5>in Iran is the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, which which is

0:26:49.480 --> 0:26:52.399
<v Speaker 5>involved in business, it's involved in religion, it's involved in

0:26:52.440 --> 0:26:56.760
<v Speaker 5>state craft, it's involved in the military. So you could

0:26:56.840 --> 0:26:59.080
<v Speaker 5>end up with a worse situation in Iran than you

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<v Speaker 5>actually had. I'll remind you, and I have no love

0:27:01.840 --> 0:27:04.239
<v Speaker 5>for the Iranian regime. They are murderous, they murder their

0:27:04.280 --> 0:27:07.840
<v Speaker 5>own people. But we were actually in negotiations with them

0:27:07.880 --> 0:27:10.879
<v Speaker 5>one time. We actually got to deal with them one time.

0:27:11.160 --> 0:27:14.040
<v Speaker 5>We even might have been negotiating with them as recently

0:27:14.080 --> 0:27:17.720
<v Speaker 5>as last Thursday one time. Yeah, there's some dispute as

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<v Speaker 5>to what was going on. The Omanis and the Iranians

0:27:19.840 --> 0:27:22.760
<v Speaker 5>say that they were making progress. Steve whit Costs says

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<v Speaker 5>they weren't.

0:27:23.480 --> 0:27:24.000
<v Speaker 2>And if you.

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<v Speaker 1>Can't trust a random real estate friend of Donald Trump's,

0:27:27.160 --> 0:27:28.200
<v Speaker 1>who can.

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<v Speaker 5>Is What a world?

0:27:28.400 --> 0:27:28.560
<v Speaker 4>Right?

0:27:28.560 --> 0:27:30.359
<v Speaker 5>What a world in which we're we're trying to weigh

0:27:30.359 --> 0:27:32.879
<v Speaker 5>who do I actually believe in this whole thing? But

0:27:32.960 --> 0:27:35.280
<v Speaker 5>I will say I kind of believe the Omanis, who

0:27:35.280 --> 0:27:36.440
<v Speaker 5>are the go betweens.

0:27:36.640 --> 0:27:39.320
<v Speaker 2>It's because they have no interest in lying about this.

0:27:39.440 --> 0:27:42.040
<v Speaker 5>In fact, they've been targeted by Iran now because they

0:27:42.040 --> 0:27:46.439
<v Speaker 5>host an American base. So we had headroom, right, people

0:27:46.440 --> 0:27:49.040
<v Speaker 5>in the State Department who think about these things state,

0:27:49.080 --> 0:27:51.280
<v Speaker 5>we had headroom. We had more space to go before

0:27:51.320 --> 0:27:53.679
<v Speaker 5>a war. A war really kind of needs to be

0:27:53.720 --> 0:27:56.960
<v Speaker 5>your last choice. Unless you think you can prosecute it

0:27:57.280 --> 0:28:00.840
<v Speaker 5>very effectively, and it's lightning strikes and it's power, and

0:28:00.920 --> 0:28:03.639
<v Speaker 5>it's done. Namely the last war that that happened in

0:28:03.920 --> 0:28:06.600
<v Speaker 5>it just doesn't happen anymore. Russia thought it was going

0:28:06.640 --> 0:28:10.080
<v Speaker 5>to be done in Ukraine in a week, if you recall, right,

0:28:10.400 --> 0:28:13.440
<v Speaker 5>and we Donald Trump like it seems to be thinking

0:28:13.480 --> 0:28:15.480
<v Speaker 5>about this, and Pete Hextas seems to be thinking about

0:28:15.520 --> 0:28:17.919
<v Speaker 5>it like video game war. Yeah right, but this is

0:28:17.960 --> 0:28:18.840
<v Speaker 5>not how this goes.

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<v Speaker 1>No, And I mean, and we haven't had and the

0:28:22.320 --> 0:28:26.359
<v Speaker 1>drone stuff is really game changing. I want you to

0:28:26.359 --> 0:28:29.639
<v Speaker 1>talk though about the jobs numbers, because these jobs numbers

0:28:29.680 --> 0:28:30.240
<v Speaker 1>are bad.

0:28:30.600 --> 0:28:33.080
<v Speaker 2>Top us through them and explain what's going on.

0:28:33.359 --> 0:28:36.320
<v Speaker 5>So normally you should be creating one hundred and fifty

0:28:36.320 --> 0:28:39.520
<v Speaker 5>thousand new jobs a month as your floor. Three hundred

0:28:39.560 --> 0:28:41.480
<v Speaker 5>is what you need to do to sort of grow

0:28:41.520 --> 0:28:45.400
<v Speaker 5>your economy, right, because we have more people dying or

0:28:45.720 --> 0:28:48.160
<v Speaker 5>retiring than we have coming in. Now, we have the

0:28:48.200 --> 0:28:51.280
<v Speaker 5>Saddin troblem where we've stopped immigration for all intents and purposes,

0:28:51.360 --> 0:28:53.800
<v Speaker 5>or we've scared immigrants into not working, or whatever the

0:28:53.840 --> 0:28:57.280
<v Speaker 5>case is. So you have a bigger problem. We locked

0:28:57.480 --> 0:29:01.239
<v Speaker 5>ninety two thousand jobs in February. Here's the rub. This

0:29:01.320 --> 0:29:03.680
<v Speaker 5>will now be the fifth month in a year that

0:29:03.720 --> 0:29:06.360
<v Speaker 5>we have lost GOG. But often it's because of revisions

0:29:06.360 --> 0:29:08.880
<v Speaker 5>that come after the fact. So on the job's day

0:29:08.960 --> 0:29:11.040
<v Speaker 5>you get the word that you created all these new jobs,

0:29:11.080 --> 0:29:12.920
<v Speaker 5>and then you know months later or the next month

0:29:12.920 --> 0:29:15.320
<v Speaker 5>you find out revise. Now we've lost jobs for five months.

0:29:15.360 --> 0:29:18.680
<v Speaker 5>That gets recession bells ringing in my head. So if

0:29:18.680 --> 0:29:20.960
<v Speaker 5>you're going to have a recession, then you want to

0:29:20.960 --> 0:29:24.520
<v Speaker 5>make sure that your interest rates are under control, that

0:29:24.600 --> 0:29:27.120
<v Speaker 5>your economic growth is under control, that people don't have

0:29:27.160 --> 0:29:29.240
<v Speaker 5>to pay more for things than they should i e.

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<v Speaker 5>Tariffs Right, it's not doing the right thing. We haven't

0:29:31.960 --> 0:29:34.440
<v Speaker 5>had a recession for a while. They are cyclical, they

0:29:34.440 --> 0:29:38.000
<v Speaker 5>come around, and now we're setting ourselves up for things.

0:29:38.240 --> 0:29:43.000
<v Speaker 5>The one thing that tends to offset recessions sometimes is war,

0:29:43.120 --> 0:29:45.880
<v Speaker 5>because we make the world's munitions right. So in fact,

0:29:46.080 --> 0:29:49.440
<v Speaker 5>Iran sends a missile up the interceptor, whether it's a

0:29:49.440 --> 0:29:52.760
<v Speaker 5>Patriot or a Thad, is an American made missile. But

0:29:52.880 --> 0:29:56.320
<v Speaker 5>ever since the war in Ukraine started, we have been

0:29:56.400 --> 0:30:00.640
<v Speaker 5>running our foundries which are here in America. Three shifts

0:30:00.640 --> 0:30:03.400
<v Speaker 5>twenty four hours a day. You go to foundery in Pennsylvania,

0:30:03.560 --> 0:30:06.720
<v Speaker 5>free shifts. So we're ammunition is running out around the world,

0:30:06.760 --> 0:30:09.200
<v Speaker 5>Missiles are running out around the world. Fads and patriots

0:30:09.200 --> 0:30:11.280
<v Speaker 5>are running out around the world. We are building all

0:30:11.320 --> 0:30:13.560
<v Speaker 5>of them. We build all the planes. All those Arab

0:30:13.600 --> 0:30:17.080
<v Speaker 5>countries that are fighting the war with Iran, they fly

0:30:17.160 --> 0:30:20.840
<v Speaker 5>at fifteens and f sixteens American made planes. So yes,

0:30:20.920 --> 0:30:23.200
<v Speaker 5>we could offset some of this. In fact, our unemployment

0:30:23.240 --> 0:30:25.840
<v Speaker 5>numbers would be higher because we actually have a wartime

0:30:25.880 --> 0:30:28.680
<v Speaker 5>economy right now that we have so many people building arms.

0:30:28.720 --> 0:30:31.080
<v Speaker 5>It may not be enough in this case. So Donald

0:30:31.080 --> 0:30:33.160
<v Speaker 5>Trump might be in a real pickle come November. We

0:30:33.280 --> 0:30:36.240
<v Speaker 5>might have a prolonged war or something going on in Iran.

0:30:36.280 --> 0:30:37.720
<v Speaker 5>I think he'd like it to be over. And now

0:30:37.760 --> 0:30:38.880
<v Speaker 5>he says eight weeks, We're.

0:30:38.760 --> 0:30:41.480
<v Speaker 2>Not eight weeks. And he may have a recession.

0:30:41.760 --> 0:30:44.680
<v Speaker 5>He's got a wildly unpopular government that the Zaxteme thing

0:30:44.760 --> 0:30:47.360
<v Speaker 5>doesn't go away for him. Yes, we saw for the

0:30:47.400 --> 0:30:50.680
<v Speaker 5>first time somebody bowing to pressure Donald Trump getting rid

0:30:50.680 --> 0:30:52.720
<v Speaker 5>of Christy. No, I don't think it's the last one

0:30:52.760 --> 0:30:55.200
<v Speaker 5>you're going to see. So now not looking good.

0:30:55.280 --> 0:30:57.840
<v Speaker 2>Will you come back anytime you want. I love talking

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<v Speaker 2>to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Dave Weigel is a reporter at setafore Welcome, Welcome, Dave.

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<v Speaker 4>It's good to be here. For having me.

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<v Speaker 1>This story is actually like become a really big story.

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<v Speaker 1>So Texas is the first primary of the midterms, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>along with North Carolina and also Arkansas.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, Arkansas. Everyone forgets Arkansas. There is a Democratic gain

0:31:23.440 --> 0:31:25.520
<v Speaker 6>in the state legislative race, but I didn't know any

0:31:25.560 --> 0:31:28.000
<v Speaker 6>reporters who went there. Whoever they were going to get

0:31:28.040 --> 0:31:30.960
<v Speaker 6>one my case, tex Ethiopian Barbecue in Dallas.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So three primaries and this primary, this Senate seat

0:31:36.280 --> 0:31:38.760
<v Speaker 1>is a really interesting primary. And I want you to

0:31:38.840 --> 0:31:42.040
<v Speaker 1>first talk about the Democratic part of the primary because

0:31:42.120 --> 0:31:45.640
<v Speaker 1>it's interesting but it's settled. Talk us through sort of

0:31:45.680 --> 0:31:50.040
<v Speaker 1>the forces at play there, because it's pretty interesting situation.

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<v Speaker 6>In the Democratic primary. I don't probablyn't even the entire

0:31:52.640 --> 0:31:55.920
<v Speaker 6>history of Democrats in Texas. They've not want anything in decades.

0:31:56.240 --> 0:31:59.280
<v Speaker 6>And Richardson, yeah, and richards and then there was a

0:31:59.320 --> 0:32:01.480
<v Speaker 6>one twenty nine to zero up wins Street.

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<v Speaker 4>They've come close, batok close.

0:32:03.400 --> 0:32:06.200
<v Speaker 6>Ken Paxson, who's the Republican Attorney general running per Senate.

0:32:06.240 --> 0:32:08.240
<v Speaker 6>He almost lost in twenty teen, but they don't lose,

0:32:08.480 --> 0:32:11.440
<v Speaker 6>and so James Tallerico, who was a rising star in

0:32:11.480 --> 0:32:14.719
<v Speaker 6>the party. He flipped a suburban Austin seat North Austin

0:32:14.720 --> 0:32:17.760
<v Speaker 6>Williamson County in twenty eighteen and got reelected. He was

0:32:17.800 --> 0:32:19.920
<v Speaker 6>making noise that he would run again. Colin Alright, who

0:32:19.920 --> 0:32:22.080
<v Speaker 6>lost his twenty twenty four bit against tag Cruz, was

0:32:22.120 --> 0:32:24.400
<v Speaker 6>running again. It was them for a minute, and then

0:32:24.600 --> 0:32:27.720
<v Speaker 6>at the very end of filing, Jasmine Crockett got into

0:32:27.760 --> 0:32:28.120
<v Speaker 6>the race.

0:32:28.200 --> 0:32:29.040
<v Speaker 4>Colin Allred got out.

0:32:29.080 --> 0:32:32.040
<v Speaker 6>Became a two person Democratic race, which actually was very

0:32:32.040 --> 0:32:34.680
<v Speaker 6>helpful to the party. I'm not trying to be the

0:32:34.680 --> 0:32:36.960
<v Speaker 6>pr man for Colin Alright, but he saved the Democrats

0:32:36.960 --> 0:32:38.680
<v Speaker 6>from a runoff by dropping out. He ran for his

0:32:38.720 --> 0:32:40.680
<v Speaker 6>old seat again, and the dynamic was that there were

0:32:40.720 --> 0:32:43.720
<v Speaker 6>two very well known Democrats, very big followings.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to point something out in Texas, if

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<v Speaker 1>you don't get fifty percent, you have to go to

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<v Speaker 1>a runoff, even if you definitively win.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, if you get forty nine point eight percent and

0:32:54.200 --> 0:32:56.800
<v Speaker 6>the next person gets fifteen percent, you stole a runoff

0:32:56.800 --> 0:32:59.600
<v Speaker 6>and people have lost in that condition before, so it

0:32:59.680 --> 0:33:03.840
<v Speaker 6>became me sprint for three months between tall Rico and Crockett,

0:33:03.960 --> 0:33:06.840
<v Speaker 6>and he had already staffed up a very big campaign.

0:33:07.040 --> 0:33:09.800
<v Speaker 6>He had a very big social media following that from

0:33:09.840 --> 0:33:14.800
<v Speaker 6>TikTok to old fashion magazines and to TV. Crockett had

0:33:14.800 --> 0:33:17.400
<v Speaker 6>a very big following too, different kind of following, different

0:33:17.440 --> 0:33:20.720
<v Speaker 6>kind of reputation and different argument. They had the same policies.

0:33:20.720 --> 0:33:22.680
<v Speaker 6>They both wanted to break up Ice. They wanted to

0:33:22.720 --> 0:33:24.880
<v Speaker 6>get rid of Christie Ome, which happened. That was one

0:33:24.880 --> 0:33:26.600
<v Speaker 6>of the big I noticed when I was a tallerco

0:33:26.640 --> 0:33:28.680
<v Speaker 6>his biggest applause line was in peach Christine Nome, So

0:33:28.680 --> 0:33:31.320
<v Speaker 6>he needs a new one. He ran just a better campaign,

0:33:31.400 --> 0:33:33.560
<v Speaker 6>but also more of an argument that he can flip

0:33:33.560 --> 0:33:36.520
<v Speaker 6>general election voters. But I don't want to downplay how

0:33:36.560 --> 0:33:37.440
<v Speaker 6>well Crockett did.

0:33:37.760 --> 0:33:40.480
<v Speaker 1>She did actually much better than the polling showed she

0:33:40.600 --> 0:33:41.800
<v Speaker 1>was going now better.

0:33:41.600 --> 0:33:43.400
<v Speaker 6>Well, So she she led in the polls that people

0:33:43.440 --> 0:33:45.720
<v Speaker 6>knew she was and then she trailed at the end,

0:33:45.760 --> 0:33:47.800
<v Speaker 6>but she got more than a million votes. If you

0:33:47.840 --> 0:33:50.640
<v Speaker 6>told any Texas Democrat in December JASMC. Crockett's going to

0:33:50.680 --> 0:33:53.080
<v Speaker 6>get a million votes, they'd assume she wins. Talla Rico

0:33:53.120 --> 0:33:56.880
<v Speaker 6>actually expanded the electorate very effectively in Latino areas and

0:33:56.960 --> 0:33:57.760
<v Speaker 6>in suburbs.

0:33:57.800 --> 0:34:01.760
<v Speaker 4>She crushed him in cities anying were anywhere with.

0:34:01.760 --> 0:34:05.200
<v Speaker 6>Black voters, really so East Texas, Dallas and Parthy Houston.

0:34:06.000 --> 0:34:07.720
<v Speaker 6>But she did not expand behind her base. But she

0:34:07.760 --> 0:34:10.279
<v Speaker 6>turned she They were not wrong. Either of them were lying.

0:34:10.360 --> 0:34:12.120
<v Speaker 6>She said she could turn out her base, and she did.

0:34:12.200 --> 0:34:13.799
<v Speaker 6>He said he could find new voters, and he did.

0:34:14.080 --> 0:34:16.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, and that is sort of like a lesson

0:34:16.640 --> 0:34:19.839
<v Speaker 1>from Trump a little bit, which is Trump won by

0:34:19.920 --> 0:34:22.640
<v Speaker 1>growing the electorate. That's why they were secret Trump voters

0:34:22.719 --> 0:34:24.840
<v Speaker 1>was because they were people. They were ones and twos,

0:34:24.960 --> 0:34:28.759
<v Speaker 1>low frequency voters and that you couldn't pull for. And

0:34:28.840 --> 0:34:31.360
<v Speaker 1>so what crockett theory of the case was that she

0:34:31.400 --> 0:34:34.160
<v Speaker 1>could over turn out her base the way that Trump

0:34:34.200 --> 0:34:37.879
<v Speaker 1>did right where he got those Hispanic men. And tell

0:34:38.040 --> 0:34:40.880
<v Speaker 1>Rico's case was that he could grow the electorate in

0:34:40.920 --> 0:34:41.640
<v Speaker 1>a different way.

0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:43.239
<v Speaker 4>That was the case they were making.

0:34:43.280 --> 0:34:46.000
<v Speaker 6>They were also in some campaigns the Cans don't like

0:34:46.040 --> 0:34:49.000
<v Speaker 6>to talk about strategy. These candids did talk about strategy.

0:34:48.880 --> 0:34:52.000
<v Speaker 6>They articulated, like you said, and tell Rico thought there'd

0:34:52.040 --> 0:34:54.239
<v Speaker 6>be a lot of people who voted for Trump or not,

0:34:54.280 --> 0:34:56.000
<v Speaker 6>so he wasn't saying people who don't vote.

0:34:56.000 --> 0:34:57.200
<v Speaker 2>And this is this.

0:34:57.080 --> 0:35:00.080
<v Speaker 6>Is something that Democrats have had several cycles of unlearning.

0:35:00.160 --> 0:35:02.920
<v Speaker 6>There was a very popular idea that this pool of

0:35:02.960 --> 0:35:05.080
<v Speaker 6>non voters around the country, if you just gave him

0:35:05.120 --> 0:35:07.719
<v Speaker 6>an aspiring message, they might turn out or not. I

0:35:07.840 --> 0:35:09.839
<v Speaker 6>want to be two patronized. He told them like, we're

0:35:09.840 --> 0:35:11.880
<v Speaker 6>gonna give you Medicare for all, then they might turn out.

0:35:12.080 --> 0:35:16.000
<v Speaker 6>And data after twenty twenty four, I've not seen this contradicted,

0:35:16.040 --> 0:35:18.160
<v Speaker 6>but it's it's kind of blue rose. It's the more

0:35:18.480 --> 0:35:20.440
<v Speaker 6>centrist electability part of the Democrats have done this, but

0:35:20.480 --> 0:35:23.239
<v Speaker 6>I haven't seen progressive contradict It was no actually, non

0:35:23.320 --> 0:35:25.640
<v Speaker 6>voters know who don Trump is, would have voted for him.

0:35:25.719 --> 0:35:27.719
<v Speaker 6>If it was Australia and every person had to vote

0:35:27.800 --> 0:35:30.439
<v Speaker 6>legally or face a fine, Trump would one buy more.

0:35:30.600 --> 0:35:32.960
<v Speaker 6>And Talerico was out there saym Matt, I would say

0:35:32.960 --> 0:35:33.880
<v Speaker 6>that because set it up.

0:35:33.880 --> 0:35:35.520
<v Speaker 4>But I was saying, they're just a lot.

0:35:35.360 --> 0:35:38.560
<v Speaker 6>Of your neighbors who've stopped listening to Democrats, and you,

0:35:38.840 --> 0:35:40.560
<v Speaker 6>the person of the audience, maybe haven't talked to them.

0:35:40.560 --> 0:35:42.000
<v Speaker 4>And I found this covering him.

0:35:42.160 --> 0:35:44.319
<v Speaker 6>There'd be people who were voting for him, and I'd

0:35:44.360 --> 0:35:46.160
<v Speaker 6>ask where they got their their news, which is a

0:35:46.320 --> 0:35:48.680
<v Speaker 6>very enlightening question. Typically, and they would talk about their

0:35:48.680 --> 0:35:51.520
<v Speaker 6>family members, who they avoid them on Facebook because they'll

0:35:51.520 --> 0:35:53.959
<v Speaker 6>send them crazy in their view, crazy things, well probably

0:35:54.000 --> 0:35:56.960
<v Speaker 6>crazy things, you know, like AI generated stuff to make

0:35:57.040 --> 0:35:59.839
<v Speaker 6>their point. Or they would tell them that Republicans rel

0:36:00.120 --> 0:36:02.239
<v Speaker 6>is to tell them they can't be a Catholic because

0:36:02.239 --> 0:36:05.960
<v Speaker 6>they're Democrats and Democrats love abortion. And they were recepted

0:36:06.040 --> 0:36:09.160
<v Speaker 6>this idea. Oh well, not just my relatives, but maybe

0:36:09.280 --> 0:36:14.040
<v Speaker 6>there's more people who want a less combative candidate, somebody

0:36:14.080 --> 0:36:16.279
<v Speaker 6>who talks about his faith all the time. Now, that

0:36:16.440 --> 0:36:18.400
<v Speaker 6>was not the crocket. Armen Crockett was making more of

0:36:18.440 --> 0:36:20.879
<v Speaker 6>the old style. Everyone can see how bad things are

0:36:20.960 --> 0:36:24.600
<v Speaker 6>under Trump, and I am such a charismatic receipts carrying

0:36:24.640 --> 0:36:27.520
<v Speaker 6>this the shield trum, but receipts receives carrying a candidate

0:36:27.560 --> 0:36:29.719
<v Speaker 6>that I will go out there and destroy Republicans with

0:36:29.760 --> 0:36:32.120
<v Speaker 6>the power of my arguments. That was also pretty compelling

0:36:32.120 --> 0:36:35.400
<v Speaker 6>for people, just one hundred thousand or so less fewer people.

0:36:35.440 --> 0:36:38.760
<v Speaker 6>But those were the two cases they made, and that matters.

0:36:38.800 --> 0:36:41.399
<v Speaker 6>I think because Republicans were ready to run against either

0:36:41.480 --> 0:36:43.400
<v Speaker 6>they wanted Crockett, they were ready get a run against

0:36:43.440 --> 0:36:45.880
<v Speaker 6>either of them because they know and I'd talked to

0:36:46.400 --> 0:36:49.279
<v Speaker 6>I'm talking about this. He's a very liberal Presbyterian. He

0:36:49.560 --> 0:36:53.120
<v Speaker 6>has used the teachings of Jesus to talk about trans writes,

0:36:53.360 --> 0:36:55.560
<v Speaker 6>non binary nature of God, how many genders there are,

0:36:55.880 --> 0:36:58.880
<v Speaker 6>white supremacy, just ways that if you were growing a

0:36:58.920 --> 0:37:01.120
<v Speaker 6>candidate lab for Texas, you wouldn't have him say that stuff.

0:37:01.120 --> 0:37:02.040
<v Speaker 4>And he actually had.

0:37:02.239 --> 0:37:02.719
<v Speaker 2>They dropped it.

0:37:02.719 --> 0:37:04.640
<v Speaker 6>He dropped out the primary. There was a more conservative

0:37:04.640 --> 0:37:07.640
<v Speaker 6>Democrat in the primary who wasn't already who hit him

0:37:07.680 --> 0:37:09.000
<v Speaker 6>on that, and when he got in the race and

0:37:09.040 --> 0:37:11.120
<v Speaker 6>then he couldn't raise any money, he dropped out, not

0:37:11.160 --> 0:37:13.839
<v Speaker 6>saying he was more electable. But the Republicans are saying,

0:37:14.000 --> 0:37:15.799
<v Speaker 6>you might think this guy is going to appeal to

0:37:15.840 --> 0:37:16.280
<v Speaker 6>your cousin.

0:37:16.600 --> 0:37:17.520
<v Speaker 4>We think that he will not.

0:37:17.600 --> 0:37:20.520
<v Speaker 6>We're going to make it him so famously liberal that

0:37:20.840 --> 0:37:23.239
<v Speaker 6>none of that will matter. And the Tallery argument is

0:37:23.480 --> 0:37:25.760
<v Speaker 6>he's already has one for it, which is corporate media

0:37:25.760 --> 0:37:28.360
<v Speaker 6>wants you to be divided on stupid things and ignore

0:37:28.400 --> 0:37:30.719
<v Speaker 6>the fact that they're wrecking the country from inside.

0:37:30.920 --> 0:37:32.680
<v Speaker 1>You know what, I want you to do a minute

0:37:32.719 --> 0:37:37.120
<v Speaker 1>on all of the incumbents who lost in Texas. Chip

0:37:37.120 --> 0:37:40.280
<v Speaker 1>Broy's going to run off, but there's also Al Green.

0:37:40.600 --> 0:37:42.279
<v Speaker 1>I think Al Green's going to run off too. But

0:37:42.400 --> 0:37:45.520
<v Speaker 1>just talk about the non power of incumbents.

0:37:45.840 --> 0:37:49.680
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, well, most incumbents got renominated, but two kinds of

0:37:49.680 --> 0:37:53.440
<v Speaker 6>people who lost. One were one FETO type I guess

0:37:53.520 --> 0:37:56.680
<v Speaker 6>are the people who were in districts that Republicans redrew

0:37:56.760 --> 0:37:58.480
<v Speaker 6>and forced them into with their colleagues.

0:37:58.680 --> 0:38:00.359
<v Speaker 4>That's how most Jerry Manderin works.

0:38:00.400 --> 0:38:03.960
<v Speaker 6>That's Julie Johnson in Dallas and Christian Menafie and Al

0:38:04.040 --> 0:38:07.439
<v Speaker 6>Green in Houston. Kalinad Red dropped out Senate, Rays started

0:38:07.480 --> 0:38:10.400
<v Speaker 6>running again for this Dallas seat, and he ran ahead

0:38:10.400 --> 0:38:10.960
<v Speaker 6>of Johnson.

0:38:11.120 --> 0:38:12.200
<v Speaker 4>That's a member of member race.

0:38:12.280 --> 0:38:14.880
<v Speaker 6>Same thing. In Houston. Green did better than some people expected.

0:38:14.920 --> 0:38:17.120
<v Speaker 6>He actually he did worse than Houston, did better in

0:38:17.160 --> 0:38:19.480
<v Speaker 6>the suburbs where he I think was better known from

0:38:19.520 --> 0:38:22.040
<v Speaker 6>his I think protesting every state union that Trump part

0:38:22.040 --> 0:38:22.560
<v Speaker 6>of it tried to be.

0:38:22.760 --> 0:38:25.400
<v Speaker 2>Green is also isn't He's seventy eight years old.

0:38:25.560 --> 0:38:27.480
<v Speaker 6>She is, I think a little bit younger than that,

0:38:27.520 --> 0:38:30.360
<v Speaker 6>but he is in his late seventies, and this is

0:38:30.440 --> 0:38:32.600
<v Speaker 6>this is another issue, probably a beau time to get into.

0:38:32.640 --> 0:38:33.800
<v Speaker 4>There are a number of not.

0:38:33.680 --> 0:38:37.480
<v Speaker 6>Just Democrats, but Congressional Black Caucus members who are refusing

0:38:37.520 --> 0:38:40.480
<v Speaker 6>to retire at a furry advanced stage. I mean Maxie

0:38:40.480 --> 0:38:43.120
<v Speaker 6>Waters is the oldest in her in her late eighties

0:38:43.160 --> 0:38:44.839
<v Speaker 6>at this point. But that was part of the issue

0:38:44.880 --> 0:38:47.040
<v Speaker 6>in the race. The way Green flipped it was that

0:38:47.120 --> 0:38:49.120
<v Speaker 6>crypto packs came in for Christian Memicry.

0:38:49.160 --> 0:38:50.720
<v Speaker 2>He's seventy eight years old.

0:38:50.960 --> 0:38:54.120
<v Speaker 6>Seventy eight, you were right, Okay, yeah, wow, And it

0:38:54.200 --> 0:38:56.600
<v Speaker 6>became pretty competitive. They're gonna have to spend more money

0:38:56.640 --> 0:38:58.480
<v Speaker 6>for a safe seat. The other kind of people who

0:38:58.520 --> 0:39:01.799
<v Speaker 6>lost were Republicans who had who had crossed Trump and

0:39:01.880 --> 0:39:03.600
<v Speaker 6>I want to rub the money. And you mentioned ship

0:39:03.680 --> 0:39:06.400
<v Speaker 6>Roy Dan Crenshaw, who was given you Yeah, he was

0:39:06.400 --> 0:39:09.160
<v Speaker 6>given new conservative precincts where if you were in those

0:39:09.200 --> 0:39:11.160
<v Speaker 6>areas you were less likely to have voted for Dan

0:39:11.200 --> 0:39:13.160
<v Speaker 6>Crenshaw in the past. You never had Maybe you weren't

0:39:13.280 --> 0:39:15.640
<v Speaker 6>were not aware of his media profile which he built

0:39:15.680 --> 0:39:16.520
<v Speaker 6>up for the years.

0:39:16.320 --> 0:39:17.200
<v Speaker 4>And kind of had faded.

0:39:17.440 --> 0:39:19.359
<v Speaker 6>He had a podcast, he had rallies, he had all

0:39:19.360 --> 0:39:22.359
<v Speaker 6>this stuff to make him himself a conservative, but not

0:39:22.400 --> 0:39:25.759
<v Speaker 6>necessarily one hundred percent mega figure. His challenger, Steve Toath,

0:39:25.880 --> 0:39:29.160
<v Speaker 6>was a state a very conservative state senator who ran

0:39:29.200 --> 0:39:32.480
<v Speaker 6>against Crenshaw with Tucker Carlson argument that he is a

0:39:32.760 --> 0:39:35.160
<v Speaker 6>not Tucker's words, but it's been used by other people.

0:39:35.360 --> 0:39:37.000
<v Speaker 2>I Patrick McCain, that he's a neo.

0:39:36.920 --> 0:39:38.960
<v Speaker 6>Con he doesn't love America first, et cetera, et cetera,

0:39:38.960 --> 0:39:42.040
<v Speaker 6>et cetera. And Carlson actually gave tothe a long interview

0:39:42.040 --> 0:39:43.799
<v Speaker 6>on his show. I guess he only does hour long

0:39:43.840 --> 0:39:46.120
<v Speaker 6>plus interviews. But I don't know if Crenshaw was ever

0:39:46.120 --> 0:39:48.560
<v Speaker 6>ahead of that race, because it was a landslide defeat.

0:39:48.640 --> 0:39:51.879
<v Speaker 6>He lost everything that was in Toat's old Senate district. Well,

0:39:51.880 --> 0:39:54.520
<v Speaker 6>he's the first member for Congress to lose renomination and

0:39:54.640 --> 0:39:57.600
<v Speaker 6>handily and without a scandal or something, just for ideological reasons.

0:39:57.640 --> 0:40:00.200
<v Speaker 6>I would add to this list Tony Gonzalez, who was

0:40:00.360 --> 0:40:03.200
<v Speaker 6>going to be gone, a congressman from West Texas. Republicans

0:40:03.200 --> 0:40:05.080
<v Speaker 6>readrew his seat thinking they would be easy for him

0:40:05.080 --> 0:40:07.520
<v Speaker 6>to win, and then I don't know how familiar listeners

0:40:07.560 --> 0:40:08.360
<v Speaker 6>are with his scandal.

0:40:08.520 --> 0:40:13.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Tony Gonzalez had an affair with the staffer, maybe

0:40:13.160 --> 0:40:14.600
<v Speaker 1>sexually harassed her too.

0:40:14.960 --> 0:40:17.680
<v Speaker 2>She set herself on fire and died.

0:40:18.040 --> 0:40:20.120
<v Speaker 6>Yes, So it's a really good summary. Always was taking

0:40:20.120 --> 0:40:22.239
<v Speaker 6>you much longer than say what was happening. Anyway, He

0:40:22.280 --> 0:40:24.680
<v Speaker 6>already was in trouble because he'd voted for gun control

0:40:24.800 --> 0:40:28.200
<v Speaker 6>legislation after Viovalde massacre, which was in his district. He

0:40:28.239 --> 0:40:31.080
<v Speaker 6>was facing a rematch with the Second Amendment influencer, which

0:40:31.080 --> 0:40:32.319
<v Speaker 6>is a way to say this. You know this, this

0:40:32.440 --> 0:40:35.600
<v Speaker 6>YouTuber who shoots guns off and talks about his love

0:40:35.600 --> 0:40:38.120
<v Speaker 6>for World War two history, not just our side of

0:40:38.120 --> 0:40:40.640
<v Speaker 6>World War Two, but up at the other side. And

0:40:41.680 --> 0:40:43.840
<v Speaker 6>he was already competitive, and then he beat it. He

0:40:43.840 --> 0:40:45.400
<v Speaker 6>beat him in the first round. They were going to

0:40:45.480 --> 0:40:47.960
<v Speaker 6>run off. Gonzales is not going to run for a

0:40:48.000 --> 0:40:50.600
<v Speaker 6>new term, So this guy, Branda Herreras is going to

0:40:50.600 --> 0:40:52.759
<v Speaker 6>be in Congress. That's the way Texas works. You pull

0:40:52.800 --> 0:40:55.840
<v Speaker 6>out of your reelection the election's over on the margins.

0:40:55.840 --> 0:40:57.880
<v Speaker 6>That will probably hurt John Cornyn a little because this

0:40:58.040 --> 0:40:59.719
<v Speaker 6>was one of the parts of the state in the

0:40:59.760 --> 0:41:03.800
<v Speaker 6>prime Mury that Cornyan did best in against Kem Paxton.

0:41:04.280 --> 0:41:06.200
<v Speaker 6>And there's not going to be a Republican primary for

0:41:06.239 --> 0:41:08.640
<v Speaker 6>Congress anymore. Gonzal' is not trying to save himself, so

0:41:08.680 --> 0:41:11.160
<v Speaker 6>there's going to be a new very right wing Republican

0:41:11.200 --> 0:41:14.799
<v Speaker 6>nominee in West Texas. Gonzale was saying I could win

0:41:14.840 --> 0:41:17.120
<v Speaker 6>and Democrats couldn't. But this is something I saw all

0:41:17.160 --> 0:41:20.400
<v Speaker 6>over Texas. It is very tough to convince Republicans who

0:41:20.480 --> 0:41:23.560
<v Speaker 6>if you're forty five, you can't remember a Democrat winning

0:41:23.560 --> 0:41:25.960
<v Speaker 6>in your state. Very tough to convince them. Oh, this

0:41:26.000 --> 0:41:27.520
<v Speaker 6>is the year when it's all going to fall apart.

0:41:27.800 --> 0:41:31.919
<v Speaker 1>I want you to talk about this. Cornan Paxton race,

0:41:32.440 --> 0:41:37.000
<v Speaker 1>Paxton trumpier than Trump right was impeached.

0:41:37.280 --> 0:41:38.120
<v Speaker 2>I would love me to.

0:41:38.239 --> 0:41:41.400
<v Speaker 1>Just talk about for two seconds where he went around

0:41:41.480 --> 0:41:43.640
<v Speaker 1>to state senators and threatened them.

0:41:44.080 --> 0:41:45.760
<v Speaker 2>Tell us about that, well.

0:41:45.600 --> 0:41:48.680
<v Speaker 6>State legislators of both kinds. So Taxa has been unfailable

0:41:48.719 --> 0:41:52.239
<v Speaker 6>to his wife, accused of bribery by former employees of

0:41:52.320 --> 0:41:55.480
<v Speaker 6>his office, and he was impeached. And of course Texas

0:41:55.520 --> 0:41:58.360
<v Speaker 6>Republicans run the state legislature, so his impeachment included a

0:41:58.360 --> 0:42:00.080
<v Speaker 6>lot of Republicans voting against.

0:41:59.800 --> 0:42:01.799
<v Speaker 2>Him and his wife, Angela.

0:42:01.920 --> 0:42:05.160
<v Speaker 6>Yes, his wife a state senator, and he was acquitted

0:42:05.160 --> 0:42:08.040
<v Speaker 6>in the Senate and got revenge on the Republicans vote

0:42:08.040 --> 0:42:09.879
<v Speaker 6>against him. I was in the state for a little while.

0:42:09.880 --> 0:42:13.000
<v Speaker 6>In twenty twenty four, he and conservative donors went back

0:42:13.040 --> 0:42:16.120
<v Speaker 6>into these districts, including the Speaker of the House who

0:42:16.280 --> 0:42:18.719
<v Speaker 6>won but then retired. He was retiring now, and their

0:42:18.800 --> 0:42:21.680
<v Speaker 6>argument was basically, these are fake conservative, These fake conservatives

0:42:21.719 --> 0:42:24.560
<v Speaker 6>went against Ken Paxton. They went against this ally of

0:42:24.600 --> 0:42:26.959
<v Speaker 6>Donald Trump, who helps him sue to overturn the twenty

0:42:26.960 --> 0:42:29.399
<v Speaker 6>twenty election. I would just say that I keep talking

0:42:29.400 --> 0:42:31.759
<v Speaker 6>about Trump and MAGA, but also Paxton's one of the

0:42:32.000 --> 0:42:37.560
<v Speaker 6>conservative attorneys general who will act immediately when conservatives, let's

0:42:37.560 --> 0:42:39.319
<v Speaker 6>say the turning point wing of the party won him

0:42:39.320 --> 0:42:43.040
<v Speaker 6>to So you want to shut down abortion clinics, who

0:42:43.120 --> 0:42:46.400
<v Speaker 6>he will sue. You want to ask hospitals for information

0:42:46.440 --> 0:42:48.200
<v Speaker 6>about transgender patients, he will do that.

0:42:48.239 --> 0:42:49.080
<v Speaker 4>He'll get the information.

0:42:49.320 --> 0:42:53.360
<v Speaker 6>You want to sue media matters because they are writing

0:42:53.440 --> 0:42:54.400
<v Speaker 6>unkind things about.

0:42:54.239 --> 0:42:55.960
<v Speaker 2>Elon Musk, He'll do that too. Him.

0:42:56.040 --> 0:42:58.640
<v Speaker 6>He was one of the very active conservative movement ags

0:42:59.000 --> 0:43:01.080
<v Speaker 6>and he has a base from that. He did not

0:43:01.160 --> 0:43:03.480
<v Speaker 6>run a very good primary campaign. He did the bare minimum,

0:43:03.480 --> 0:43:07.359
<v Speaker 6>but he's still got forty. Talk about Cornan, Well, yeah,

0:43:07.400 --> 0:43:09.799
<v Speaker 6>Cornyn is well, he's a little bit younger than Al Green.

0:43:09.840 --> 0:43:11.960
<v Speaker 6>He'd bilb eighty if he serves his full term. But

0:43:12.000 --> 0:43:14.319
<v Speaker 6>he's going for a fifth term. The party had been

0:43:14.320 --> 0:43:15.919
<v Speaker 6>moving away from him in a way that you've talked

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<v Speaker 6>about and everyone's talked about. And he was the former

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<v Speaker 6>leader of Republicans Senate efforts and they like him. He's

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<v Speaker 6>their colleague. JHN Thune likes him. Trump was different. He

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<v Speaker 6>had criticized Trump in between his presidencies, but it wasn't

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<v Speaker 6>out there casting. You know, Lincoln Schafeye votes right. He

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<v Speaker 6>just was not liked Ted Cruz rushing in and taking

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<v Speaker 6>point on some conservative cause. He's been somebody that the

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<v Speaker 6>movement wanted to beat for a while. And this primary

0:43:40.960 --> 0:43:44.799
<v Speaker 6>was the most expensive for any incumbent Republican senator in history. Now,

0:43:44.840 --> 0:43:46.960
<v Speaker 6>remember the Tea Party movement helped beat a couple of

0:43:46.960 --> 0:43:50.640
<v Speaker 6>Republican incumbents a decade ago, decade plus ago, a lot

0:43:50.640 --> 0:43:53.040
<v Speaker 6>of money in that. This was more than eighty million

0:43:53.120 --> 0:43:57.040
<v Speaker 6>dollars spent by mostly the Senate Leadership Fund its affiliates,

0:43:57.080 --> 0:44:01.160
<v Speaker 6>the super Pac. Donnell started at one Cornyn and portray

0:44:01.239 --> 0:44:03.880
<v Speaker 6>him as a as a true magic conservative. Two to

0:44:03.920 --> 0:44:07.719
<v Speaker 6>go after Paxton very personal terms, and three to go

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<v Speaker 6>after Wesley Hunt, this congressman from Houston who got into

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<v Speaker 6>the race kind of famously, and I think Notice has

0:44:13.520 --> 0:44:15.520
<v Speaker 6>good stuff about this. Famously just got tired of paying

0:44:15.640 --> 0:44:18.080
<v Speaker 6>congress God give it a safe seat and just was

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<v Speaker 6>bored and wanted to either move into the administration or

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<v Speaker 6>be a senator.

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<v Speaker 2>They beat him up. That was very helpful.

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<v Speaker 6>So what they wanted to do, and this has been

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<v Speaker 6>playing out since Tuesday night, what the PAC.

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<v Speaker 2>Wanted to do.

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<v Speaker 6>Corners reporters want to do is just make sure that

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<v Speaker 6>Cornan got more votes than Paxton the primary, so they

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<v Speaker 6>could go back to Trump and say Paxton is not

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<v Speaker 6>going to win the primary. If you want to be

0:44:37.719 --> 0:44:41.040
<v Speaker 6>a winner, since we're going to spend money for corn anyway,

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<v Speaker 6>just go endorse Cornyn and this thing and Trump has given.

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<v Speaker 6>Trump has said he will make an endorsement. We don't

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<v Speaker 6>know who the bet is that he will be talked

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<v Speaker 6>into endorsing Corny, and he's done stuff like this before.

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<v Speaker 6>In New Hampshire, Johnson UNU to the former senator, not

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<v Speaker 6>the form of governor he's running. He had criticized Trump

0:44:57.480 --> 0:45:00.879
<v Speaker 6>throughout his his presidency. Scott Brown has run for US

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<v Speaker 6>Senate and Brown is an ally, and Trump was convinced

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<v Speaker 6>to endorsement to Johnson Dodo.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to talk about Paxton for a second,

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<v Speaker 1>because Paxton is super nutty. He told Real America Voice

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<v Speaker 1>he's not going to drop out even if Trump endorses

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<v Speaker 1>Cornyan again, who knows.

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<v Speaker 2>But then he.

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<v Speaker 1>Tweeted that the only way he'll drop out is if

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<v Speaker 1>the if they kill the filibuster and pass the Save Act,

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<v Speaker 1>which there's about a million reasons why that will be undoable,

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<v Speaker 1>the votes, etc. But a lot of people think that's

0:45:32.120 --> 0:45:34.120
<v Speaker 1>a political move talk us through that.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, well, he's doing that because he wants to draw

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<v Speaker 6>attention to the fact that the Save Act, which Donald

0:45:40.000 --> 0:45:42.680
<v Speaker 6>Trump wants, is not passing, and he wants to tell Trump,

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<v Speaker 6>you send me to the Senate and would I would

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<v Speaker 6>vote to get rid of the filibuster to do what

0:45:46.880 --> 0:45:47.920
<v Speaker 6>you want, which is something that.

0:45:47.840 --> 0:45:50.520
<v Speaker 4>Trump asks for quite often. Trump did this in his

0:45:50.560 --> 0:45:51.040
<v Speaker 4>first term.

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<v Speaker 6>Hey we're not getting something through, I'm going to tweet

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<v Speaker 6>the which pear of the philibuster reporters would go to

0:45:55.320 --> 0:45:57.800
<v Speaker 6>Mitch McConnell, Ben John Thune now and they would say,

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<v Speaker 6>we're not going to do that. It's just this endless

0:46:01.200 --> 0:46:04.359
<v Speaker 6>or boroughs of react quotes about what Republicans are going

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<v Speaker 6>to say about not getting rid of the philibuster. They're

0:46:06.280 --> 0:46:08.040
<v Speaker 6>not going to get rid of it. Conservatives are tired

0:46:08.080 --> 0:46:10.400
<v Speaker 6>of this. The turning point wing of the party would

0:46:10.440 --> 0:46:13.120
<v Speaker 6>love and this. Mike Lee, couple other Republicans who flipped

0:46:13.160 --> 0:46:15.800
<v Speaker 6>because they were for the filibuster. Now they're for the

0:46:16.239 --> 0:46:19.319
<v Speaker 6>talking filibuster, which is their form Democrats wanted years ago.

0:46:19.520 --> 0:46:21.080
<v Speaker 6>They want to get rid of it, and they have

0:46:21.239 --> 0:46:24.239
<v Speaker 6>the confidence that it's not going to happen. I don't

0:46:24.239 --> 0:46:27.000
<v Speaker 6>think the cynical conservatives are incorrect here. There are people

0:46:27.040 --> 0:46:29.640
<v Speaker 6>like Susan Collins who have said, yes, I support the

0:46:29.680 --> 0:46:33.800
<v Speaker 6>Save Act, I support citicismship check requirements for voting, and

0:46:33.800 --> 0:46:34.920
<v Speaker 6>and everything else in that bill.

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<v Speaker 4>But asked them if we're the filibuster, they won't do it.

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<v Speaker 6>They just want to be on record that they're for

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<v Speaker 6>passing this bill, and Conservats are sick of that.

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<v Speaker 2>They are like, no, that's what's.

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<v Speaker 6>The difference between not supporting it at all and saying

0:46:44.600 --> 0:46:46.360
<v Speaker 6>you're going to support in some way that won't happen.

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<v Speaker 6>That's what Paxton's trying to get to send me to

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<v Speaker 6>the Senate.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm going to be on Mike Lee. I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>going to be a Jhon Cornyn.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>I think of you as like very smart and very

0:46:57.120 --> 0:47:00.279
<v Speaker 1>on the ground and like that you see everything that's

0:47:00.280 --> 0:47:00.719
<v Speaker 1>going on.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think the chances are?

0:47:02.440 --> 0:47:04.680
<v Speaker 1>And I know this is a really mean question because

0:47:04.719 --> 0:47:07.200
<v Speaker 1>it's like asking candidate to raise their hand, but I'm

0:47:07.200 --> 0:47:08.000
<v Speaker 1>going to do it anyway.

0:47:08.239 --> 0:47:09.960
<v Speaker 2>What do you think the chances are the Dems can

0:47:10.000 --> 0:47:10.760
<v Speaker 2>flip the Senate?

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<v Speaker 6>I would say twenty percent. I think they need to

0:47:13.360 --> 0:47:17.120
<v Speaker 6>buy all terrible economic numbers today war in a run.

0:47:17.440 --> 0:47:20.520
<v Speaker 6>There's a world like two thousand and six where their

0:47:20.520 --> 0:47:22.479
<v Speaker 6>bottom falls out of them because people are so tired

0:47:22.480 --> 0:47:23.279
<v Speaker 6>of how they're governing thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Because that's the world where I think Democrats win the Senate.

0:47:25.320 --> 0:47:28.200
<v Speaker 1>But twenty percent is pretty good. You think Alaska is

0:47:28.239 --> 0:47:30.640
<v Speaker 1>the key to that. They have to pick up everything

0:47:30.719 --> 0:47:32.000
<v Speaker 1>right Alaska, Ohio.

0:47:32.440 --> 0:47:36.680
<v Speaker 6>It basically be flip North Carolina, flip Main hold Michigan,

0:47:36.800 --> 0:47:41.080
<v Speaker 6>hold Georgia, flip Alaska, flip one of something else flipping

0:47:41.080 --> 0:47:43.640
<v Speaker 6>three seats. Losing nothing gets them fifty seats in the Senate.

0:47:43.960 --> 0:47:46.200
<v Speaker 6>That prevents a lot of Republicans do but they would

0:47:46.239 --> 0:47:48.399
<v Speaker 6>still control the floor of the gabbles. Let's say there's

0:47:48.400 --> 0:47:50.879
<v Speaker 6>a Supreme Court opening, Replicans still do it. One more

0:47:50.920 --> 0:47:55.520
<v Speaker 6>person and they most often mentioned Iowa, Ohio, and Texas.

0:47:55.680 --> 0:47:58.440
<v Speaker 6>One more win would mean that they control the Senate

0:47:58.440 --> 0:48:00.160
<v Speaker 6>and they can block Trump for the rest of the two.

0:48:00.480 --> 0:48:03.040
<v Speaker 2>And the most likely movement that is Ohio.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, But this is the thing, and Republicans will say,

0:48:05.880 --> 0:48:08.680
<v Speaker 6>and they're self interested in saying so that if Paxton

0:48:08.760 --> 0:48:12.320
<v Speaker 6>is the nominee against tall Rico, then they think Texas

0:48:12.360 --> 0:48:14.880
<v Speaker 6>could flip. But you can hear they're self interested how

0:48:14.920 --> 0:48:17.279
<v Speaker 6>they're attacking right now. And I was trying to say

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<v Speaker 6>this before when describing the primary, that Republicans will tell

0:48:21.600 --> 0:48:23.719
<v Speaker 6>you that they want to run against Crockett, they were

0:48:23.719 --> 0:48:26.200
<v Speaker 6>ready to run against tall Rico, saying that he's a

0:48:26.719 --> 0:48:30.560
<v Speaker 6>woke liberal, fake Christian, et cetera, et cetera, he's actually evil.

0:48:30.560 --> 0:48:32.880
<v Speaker 6>I've seen a couple Republicans say that because he's pro abortion,

0:48:33.120 --> 0:48:34.959
<v Speaker 6>they're doing that. They're saying he's kind of a liberal

0:48:35.000 --> 0:48:37.040
<v Speaker 6>whimp who we can beat easily. At the same time,

0:48:37.160 --> 0:48:39.399
<v Speaker 6>they're trying to convince Trump that John Corny's the only

0:48:39.400 --> 0:48:41.560
<v Speaker 6>guy who can beat him. It is not coherent, but

0:48:41.880 --> 0:48:44.680
<v Speaker 6>you do not need to prove with an algebraic equation

0:48:44.800 --> 0:48:46.360
<v Speaker 6>to Trump. This is how it's going to happen. You

0:48:46.400 --> 0:48:48.359
<v Speaker 6>just need to be in the room, make the best sale,

0:48:48.400 --> 0:48:49.920
<v Speaker 6>and get him to say something that's hard for him

0:48:49.920 --> 0:48:50.399
<v Speaker 6>to take back.

0:48:50.680 --> 0:48:51.360
<v Speaker 4>That's what they're trying to do.

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<v Speaker 6>Just please say enough in the room with Trump that

0:48:53.640 --> 0:48:56.600
<v Speaker 6>he decides that he needs to endorse a corner. That

0:48:56.680 --> 0:48:59.480
<v Speaker 6>is the whole game there. Republicans do think Paxton versus

0:48:59.520 --> 0:49:02.280
<v Speaker 6>tall Rica. So even though they're attacking now, if Paxton's

0:49:02.280 --> 0:49:04.160
<v Speaker 6>a nominee, it'd have some trouble raising money.

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<v Speaker 4>To Tylerico is a good candidate.

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<v Speaker 6>They could lose it so that I would say that

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<v Speaker 6>would become the fourth likeliest thing to flip after Alaska.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, thank you, thank you, thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>Dave, thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>No mo.

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<v Speaker 3>Jesse Cannon, so Molly, we got bury you louder Milk

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<v Speaker 3>a character I feel like just shows up kind of

0:49:25.880 --> 0:49:29.080
<v Speaker 3>as a cameo from season to season. He wants to

0:49:29.400 --> 0:49:33.160
<v Speaker 3>go after charges for Cassidy Hutchinson if you remember from

0:49:33.360 --> 0:49:36.040
<v Speaker 3>the January sixth hearings, Yes, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Saw that, and I'm not surprised. Very louder Milk, you'll

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<v Speaker 1>remember Barry louder Milk being the member of Congress that

0:49:43.640 --> 0:49:47.600
<v Speaker 1>Mikey Cheryl came on this podcast and said, was remember

0:49:47.719 --> 0:49:48.520
<v Speaker 1>giving tours.

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<v Speaker 2>I do remember this. Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Look, Cassidy Hutchinson is this very young girl who

0:49:55.480 --> 0:50:01.640
<v Speaker 1>worked in MAGA who came out and testified against McCarthy.

0:50:02.080 --> 0:50:04.440
<v Speaker 1>Like it's just an insane thing to do, but you know,

0:50:04.560 --> 0:50:06.680
<v Speaker 1>this is what they're doing. They're trying to target people.

0:50:06.760 --> 0:50:09.760
<v Speaker 1>But I do think it's interesting they've had so little

0:50:09.840 --> 0:50:14.560
<v Speaker 1>success targeting people. I mean, it's just you know, yeah,

0:50:14.560 --> 0:50:16.880
<v Speaker 1>she's twenty nine years old. I've met her before. She's

0:50:16.960 --> 0:50:21.000
<v Speaker 1>really a sweet girl. But you know, they want to

0:50:21.040 --> 0:50:24.200
<v Speaker 1>scare people. They want to prevent people from speaking about this.

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<v Speaker 2>Admin.

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