WEBVTT - Best Of Dear Chelsea: Lindsey Vonn

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, hello, good afternoon.

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<v Speaker 2>Buenos tardes, I mean buenos I don't even know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so sick of my bell correcting me in my

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<v Speaker 1>fucking Spanish.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, like, she corrects everything I say, but she's

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<v Speaker 2>not correcting me to speak proper Spanish. She speaks slang

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<v Speaker 2>Spanish admittingly. She says to me, well, this is how

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<v Speaker 2>we speak in Mexico. And I'm like, great, but I'm

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<v Speaker 2>trying to learn Spanish for Spain and true. And I

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<v Speaker 2>also don't want to point out that I don't ever

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<v Speaker 2>correct her fucking English, never and never say oh no

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<v Speaker 2>that words, those words go in the opposite direction or anything.

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<v Speaker 2>But she is riding me like a wave. Oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 2>we will get off my jock. I'm like, do you

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<v Speaker 2>want me to learn Spanish? Or don't you if you keep.

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<v Speaker 1>Putting up these barriers? Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>And she just loves it, though, But I gotta give

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<v Speaker 2>it to her, like I know that that must be

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<v Speaker 2>satisfying for her to be able to correct me all

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<v Speaker 2>the time, tell me what to do. And you asked

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<v Speaker 2>her to it, Well, yeah, I said I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>speak Spanish.

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<v Speaker 1>You could let me slide a little bit with my grammar.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know what I love. I'm such a grammarian.

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<v Speaker 2>I care so much about grammar that I really want.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to speak proper Spanish anyway, It's just it's

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<v Speaker 2>too much of a beginner's Spanish to be there yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Yea, what have I learned this week? I learned about

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<v Speaker 1>Cuba and sugar.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, tell me about well, you know, after this, I

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<v Speaker 2>learned all about Spain.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to promote a show April twenty. It's Spokane.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the second show we added in Spokane. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>quite sold out, so please buy your tickets, you motherfuckers.

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<v Speaker 2>And what other shows do I need to promote? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>they're all really almost sold out. Red Rocks Amphitheater. That

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<v Speaker 2>one's not sold out yet. Red Rocks Amphitheater. That's a

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<v Speaker 2>big one, that's like.

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<v Speaker 1>Ten thousand people.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't so yeah, go to Chelsea Heler dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>There are some tickets for some other shows. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm going to add a whole bunch of new

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<v Speaker 2>dates I think.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometime this month.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so hard to figure out where I am.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought I was in Cuba, So I learned all

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<v Speaker 2>about the Spanish conquering Cuba and then the English conquering Cuba,

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<v Speaker 2>and then they had a treaty and they gave Cuba

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<v Speaker 2>back to Spain, and then they kept Florida, and then

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<v Speaker 2>they kept the Lower Mississippi some areas around there, and

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<v Speaker 2>then they discovered sugar during the Atlantic slave trade, which

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<v Speaker 2>was started by the English.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to say that, make sure.

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<v Speaker 2>We keep that mentioned so that people fucking understand history,

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<v Speaker 2>because I am so confused about so many things. I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, well, didn't we all come from Egypt to

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<v Speaker 2>my brother one day He's like, no, you asshole, And

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<v Speaker 2>so now I'm reading a book.

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<v Speaker 1>Then we all came from Africa. Everybody came from Africa. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, the sugar.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so Cuba was the center of sugar for a

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<v Speaker 2>long time. Slaves were responsible for all of the prosperity

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<v Speaker 2>of the United States, beginning the United States and basically

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<v Speaker 2>taking all of the sugar cane, hacking it, cutting it,

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<v Speaker 2>transferring it, blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 1>And so that's when the Atlantic slave.

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<v Speaker 2>Trade peaked, was during the sugar I want to say rush,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't think it's called a rush.

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<v Speaker 4>I like calling it a sugar rush.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, sugar rush.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a different gun.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a difference. That's something too. So yeah, there's that.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I'm learning about Neanderthals and Denisovans and Anatolia

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<v Speaker 2>and Homo erectus and how we all kind of changed

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<v Speaker 2>and when we split off, like right before Homo erectus

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<v Speaker 2>we split off, we diverged. One became chimpanzees and the

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<v Speaker 2>other became modern humans. Oh my god, short history of

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<v Speaker 2>humanity is called I need.

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<v Speaker 4>To read what you're reading, because like, as a kid

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<v Speaker 4>who grew up going to Christian school, where we had

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<v Speaker 4>let's say, a warped and abbreviated version of science, I

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<v Speaker 4>didn't even know that like Pangaea existed until I was

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<v Speaker 4>in college. I remember saying to a teacher once, why

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<v Speaker 4>does it look like the two, you know, halves of

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<v Speaker 4>the earth would fit together? And they're like, that's just

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<v Speaker 4>a funny thing God did. Like that kind of stuff

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<v Speaker 4>was what I grew up.

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<v Speaker 2>I also believed that we were Everything was connected, even

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<v Speaker 2>the islands, and not all the islands like Sardinia Corsica

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<v Speaker 2>were never part of the mainland.

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<v Speaker 4>They were just like they were volcanic.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, so they have their own thing going.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's interesting too that that would naturally happen, that

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<v Speaker 2>there would be elands sprinkled everywhere.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I mean, I guess I got such bad

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<v Speaker 4>science education. I didn't even remember the word for continence.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, the halves of the world. It's just wild.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it is wild.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, you know you read something and you retain.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd be interested in my level of retainment. I want

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<v Speaker 2>to take tests after every book I read to see

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<v Speaker 2>how much I took in.

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<v Speaker 4>I think we're trying to send you back to college.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't some sort of curriculum quite frankly, Okay, what

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<v Speaker 2>do we got.

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<v Speaker 1>What's happening to me?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, Chelsea, I had had my.

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<v Speaker 1>Ski buddy on today, but I won't tell you that

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<v Speaker 1>is until she's on.

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<v Speaker 4>That's very exciting. So, Chelsea, I had an email come

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<v Speaker 4>in about Dana, who had called in her step son

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<v Speaker 4>was being sort of vaguely creepy and yes, yes, and

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<v Speaker 4>she mentioned like he was maybe being able to touch

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<v Speaker 4>you peely with her son. And I just thought this

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<v Speaker 4>email was so important that I wanted to share it

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<v Speaker 4>with you. Heather says, hello, Chelsea, and Catherine, I wanted

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<v Speaker 4>to say thank you for providing the audience with the

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<v Speaker 4>mother that called in about her steps on she feels

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<v Speaker 4>uncomfortable around. While I had no doubt this would be

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<v Speaker 4>your response, I truly appreciate you not minimizing the seriousness

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<v Speaker 4>of needing to take action to protect her younger son,

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<v Speaker 4>self and family. I'm also in awe of the mother's

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<v Speaker 4>strength to reach out for advice, because that is so tricky.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's like it's this sort of nebulous thing.

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<v Speaker 4>My personal story includes eight plus years of a very

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<v Speaker 4>close family friend grooming me as a child with uncomfortable touching,

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<v Speaker 4>inappropriate sexual conversations for an adult to have with a child,

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<v Speaker 4>shower peeping, accidental quote unquote porn exposure, and more. While

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<v Speaker 4>rape never occurred, it has left years worth of trauma

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<v Speaker 4>response that I'm working through with a great therapist. However,

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<v Speaker 4>at the time it was brushed off by others as

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<v Speaker 4>creepy old man vibes or that shoulder or waiste touching

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't considered a sexual touch even if I didn't want it.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I was meant to hear this podcast today

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<v Speaker 4>as my therapy session this week was focused on my

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<v Speaker 4>continued struggle with not freezing in a moment when someone

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<v Speaker 4>touches me in a suggestive but not legally sexual way.

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<v Speaker 4>The mother listening to her intuition and taking charge to

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<v Speaker 4>keep her young son safe could have a huge impact

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<v Speaker 4>on her son's future. It's something I wish would have

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<v Speaker 4>happened for myself. Her older steps on clearly also needs support,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm thankful you communicated to prioritize safety of family

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<v Speaker 4>while acknowledging his need for help too. It's these conversations

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<v Speaker 4>and stories that I hope will help others think differently

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<v Speaker 4>on the impact these quote unquote micro traumas can have

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<v Speaker 4>over time. Thanks so much for your awesomeness and sharing

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<v Speaker 4>both the funny and needed stories of our lives. Heather.

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<v Speaker 2>I like how she said micro trauma because I learned

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<v Speaker 2>about complex trauma from a friend of mine over the

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<v Speaker 2>weekend who I hung out with, and he was telling

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<v Speaker 2>me about complex trauma is trauma over time, right, like

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<v Speaker 2>neglect or alcoholism or drug addiction, something like that that

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<v Speaker 2>you lay witness to.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have a sibling that has a terrible.

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<v Speaker 2>Schizophrenia, that would be complex trauma, which is different than

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<v Speaker 2>event trauma rights and PTSD is related to event trauma.

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<v Speaker 2>But I want to underline the intuition part because more

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<v Speaker 2>and more people are talking about intuition and understanding that

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<v Speaker 2>it is a very concrete, if.

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<v Speaker 1>Not measurable thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And for every woman and man that is listening to

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<v Speaker 2>all our gaze.

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<v Speaker 1>You all have it.

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<v Speaker 2>We all have intuition. We all have a feeling in

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<v Speaker 2>our stomach and our gut. Sometimes it's in your heart,

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<v Speaker 2>or it feels like in your heart, but it is

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<v Speaker 2>really in your gut when you meet someone, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>the exact opposite of the feeling you get when you

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<v Speaker 2>know something's wrong, when somebody comes into your space a

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<v Speaker 2>person and you know they're dangerous right away you see

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<v Speaker 2>that they're sketchy, or that they're unhinged, or that they're unpredictable.

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<v Speaker 1>That feeling right there.

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<v Speaker 2>You can also have in the opposite way about something

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<v Speaker 2>you should do, or somebody you should move towards, or

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<v Speaker 2>a thing that is right, And if you really listen

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<v Speaker 2>to yourself, you are going to know what that is.

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<v Speaker 2>And we don't talk about intuition in the way that

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<v Speaker 2>we need to, because young girls need to trust their intuition.

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<v Speaker 2>They need to trust the way that their body feels,

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<v Speaker 2>because your body will tell your brain what is happening.

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<v Speaker 1>And it is.

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<v Speaker 4>It's such a concrete thing. It's like you when you're

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<v Speaker 4>in a certain situation or you're around someone who makes

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<v Speaker 4>you uncomfortable, it turns into a physical reaction. Your stomach

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<v Speaker 4>gets in and not your hair goes up on the

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<v Speaker 4>back of your neck.

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<v Speaker 2>Like trust your changes. The way you're holding yourself and

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<v Speaker 2>carrying yourself changes, like.

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<v Speaker 4>The body is communicating with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, sometimes I fold my arms when I'm in

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<v Speaker 2>a conversation and I realize how off putting that is.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that's the definition of being defensive, is having your arms,

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<v Speaker 2>even if that's a comfortable position for you. That's how

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<v Speaker 2>it's kind of received most of the time. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>because my body's doing it. My body is saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm uncomfortable in this conversation, and you have to listen

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<v Speaker 2>to those signals or you know, sometimes it's just ego,

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<v Speaker 2>like oh they're saying something that I don't like or

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<v Speaker 2>in the great.

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<v Speaker 1>Way or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I think that's a great conversation for any

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<v Speaker 2>parents listening to have with your young children. Yeah, following

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<v Speaker 2>your gut. It is so important, especially with situations like

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<v Speaker 2>the ones we're just talking about.

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<v Speaker 4>Where it's not illegal, it's not illicit, but it is

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<v Speaker 4>something that is having an effect and an impact on

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<v Speaker 4>that child or that adult. You know, this can happen

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<v Speaker 4>in adult situations as well. One really helpful listener, Tatiana,

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<v Speaker 4>wrote in saying some of the early warning signs of

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<v Speaker 4>psychosis are a worrisome drop in grades or job performance,

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<v Speaker 4>trouble thinking clearly, suspiciousness or uneasiness with others, a decline

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<v Speaker 4>in self care or personal hygiene, spending a lot more

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<v Speaker 4>time alone than usual, and strong inappropriate emotions are having

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<v Speaker 4>no feelings at all. And I think that's a really

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<v Speaker 4>important thing to point out as well, because that age

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<v Speaker 4>they said, like twenty seven right around there, that's kind

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<v Speaker 4>of when some mental illnesses will present themselves to people.

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<v Speaker 4>So thanks to everyone who wrote in about that. So

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<v Speaker 4>I thought this was so important to highlight and really

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<v Speaker 4>paying attention to, you know, those little things and if

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<v Speaker 4>someone says I'm uncomfortable, like listening to them and seeing

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<v Speaker 4>what needs to what Steff's need to be taken.

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<v Speaker 2>So okay, So who's our first guest Okay, our first guest.

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<v Speaker 1>We it's our only guest. I forgot that I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>on a TV show right now. Our guest today.

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<v Speaker 2>Is a friend of mine, a good friend of mine,

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<v Speaker 2>and she's an Olympic gold medalist and she's a skier.

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<v Speaker 2>But before I introduce her, I really want to mention

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<v Speaker 2>her philanthropy. She has a foundation called a Lindsay Vaughn Foundation,

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<v Speaker 2>which empowers underserved girls with camps, scholarships and more. So

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<v Speaker 2>please make sure you are aware of that and check

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<v Speaker 2>it out. She wrote a great book which everyone should read.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called Rise.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, please welcome Lindsay vat Ah.

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<v Speaker 1>There she is, Miss America.

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<v Speaker 2>I was hoping that I was gonna interrupt you your

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<v Speaker 2>ski day today.

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<v Speaker 1>Where are you?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm in Orlando.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, you know. I have a dilemma.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, I'm glad you brought up Florida because for my

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<v Speaker 2>new tour, I was just on the phone with my

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<v Speaker 2>agents this morning and they were going over routing for

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<v Speaker 2>the fall dates that were going to announce later, and

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<v Speaker 2>Florida was on the list. And I said, guys, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know about Florida anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>And they're like, well, do you really want.

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<v Speaker 2>To punish the people in Florida, Like you have people

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<v Speaker 2>you every time you go, you go to like six

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<v Speaker 2>stops of Florida. I'm like, no, I don't. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to punish the people of Florida. They're being punished enough.

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<v Speaker 2>But I feel like as a statement, I just have

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<v Speaker 2>to say fuck off. Like when is enough enough? Like

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<v Speaker 2>all of this legislation, Like I feel like DeSantis needs

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<v Speaker 2>to know. Certain people aren't going to come. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>they don't care about me. But if more people do it,

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<v Speaker 2>But then there's the argument that you're affecting revenue, you're

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<v Speaker 2>affecting people's jobs, you're affecting people's lifestyle. So I don't

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<v Speaker 2>really know what the right answer is. If anybody listening

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<v Speaker 2>has feelings on this, please DM me. Actually, DM lindsay,

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<v Speaker 2>shall I go through them first and then she'll read

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<v Speaker 2>them to me?

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<v Speaker 1>What are you doing in Orlando?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm speaking, you know, Apparently some people want my advice

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<v Speaker 5>for some reason. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe it. You're a champion. We were just watching

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<v Speaker 2>your night race at k I'll say.

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<v Speaker 1>The streef, the streef in cloth kids, fool kids, puel kits.

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<v Speaker 5>Fuel Yes, kids fuel the strife. Yes, good job guys.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and this video is of you skiing the world's

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<v Speaker 4>hardest ski run. You were not only the first woman

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<v Speaker 4>to do it, but you also did it in the dark,

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<v Speaker 4>just to make it more insane. This video is crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll put a link to it in the show notes.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a hard one.

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<v Speaker 5>Honestly, I've not run into one American that has gotten

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<v Speaker 5>it right so far. But it's okay. The effort was there.

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<v Speaker 5>I appreciate you well.

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<v Speaker 1>It's also a hard line to ski. It's it's not

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<v Speaker 1>even a line.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know what the fuck you would call

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<v Speaker 2>what you do, but it is so so hardcore, it's

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<v Speaker 2>so bad. As I mean, all my ski buddies from

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<v Speaker 2>Whistler who are real ski you know, like they know

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<v Speaker 2>how to ski and they are just like you have.

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<v Speaker 2>When that video came out, we must have watched it

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<v Speaker 2>like fifteen times. If you haven't seen it, she did

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<v Speaker 2>it with Red Bull. You can watch it on Lindsay's Instagram,

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<v Speaker 2>which you should be following her anyway, because you put.

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<v Speaker 1>Out great content.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw you powder skiing the other day and I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to ask you, how do you because if you

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<v Speaker 2>spent your life training, you know, downhill and solom and

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<v Speaker 2>all the stuff that you do, do you spend a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of time in powder before you retire?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh No, I never powder skied because I was so

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<v Speaker 5>worried that I would hurt myself. And some of the

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<v Speaker 5>other athletes would go powder skiing, like if our race

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<v Speaker 5>was canceled because of so much No, you know, definitely,

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<v Speaker 5>I would say some of the girls would go, like

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<v Speaker 5>people that are from California that grew up skiing powder,

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<v Speaker 5>But I didn't grow up skiing powder. I'm from Minnesota.

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<v Speaker 5>There's not one powder day in the entire season. It's

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<v Speaker 5>mostly man man and you're cool as hell. So I

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<v Speaker 5>just I love skiing, you know, and it's powder is

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<v Speaker 5>a lot easier on my knees. And while it's not

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<v Speaker 5>something that you know, I've grown up with, I just

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<v Speaker 5>I love it and it's fun and it's the most

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<v Speaker 5>exciting thing that I can do outside of racing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, powder skiing is really fucking fun. And you know

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<v Speaker 2>what is so fun about it, or so funny about

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<v Speaker 2>it is that when you learn how to ski technically,

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<v Speaker 2>as Lindsay can speak to way more than I can.

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<v Speaker 1>But from what little I've gleaned.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything you learn about regular skiing goes out the window.

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<v Speaker 2>When you ski powder, you know, you're not on an agle,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not turning, You're bouncing like a bunny rabbit through

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<v Speaker 2>the snow and just like hopping like boom boo boo.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's like leaning back. It's the exact opposite that

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<v Speaker 5>any instructor would ever teach you. It's all just lean

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<v Speaker 5>back and ride the wave. It's like surfing. It's pretty

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<v Speaker 5>funny because your point is the exact opposite of what

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<v Speaker 5>you've been told, what you've been taught, and just throw

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<v Speaker 5>it all out the window. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Well you've been through a lot and you've been

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<v Speaker 2>injured a lot, and I want to talk a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you.

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<v Speaker 1>Lindsay wrote a.

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<v Speaker 2>Great book about her whole life, her autobiography, and in

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<v Speaker 2>it you talk a lot about your recoveries from many

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<v Speaker 2>different accidents, and I want to know obviously you were

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<v Speaker 2>mentally tough. You couldn't survive all of this and continue

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<v Speaker 2>to go back out there, especially what you just skied,

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<v Speaker 2>and kidspoel like.

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<v Speaker 1>Why would you do that?

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<v Speaker 2>You said, I mean, I think you said you had

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<v Speaker 2>like your surgery ready to go in case you did

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<v Speaker 2>wipe out and hurt yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that true?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean I'm getting my knee replaced, so I

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<v Speaker 5>figured this was a perfect time to do it, because

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<v Speaker 5>if I crash and I need surgery, I'm getting it anyway,

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<v Speaker 5>so I don't mind risking it. But I've had my

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<v Speaker 5>fair share of surgeries. I mean, you've hurt your knee,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, you know the deal. But I don't think

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<v Speaker 5>it's ever impacted my passion for ski racing or for

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<v Speaker 5>skiing in general. I just love the mountain. I just

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<v Speaker 5>wish it had been a little bit easier on my body.

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<v Speaker 5>But I don't have any regrets. You know, despite the

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<v Speaker 5>fact that I limp around most of the time, I

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<v Speaker 5>still wouldn't change anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let's talk about the mindset that allows you to

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<v Speaker 2>do that, because you work out really hard, so I

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<v Speaker 2>know your body's been beaten up, but you still have

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<v Speaker 2>a significant amount of strength left and determination in order

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<v Speaker 2>to keep all of that going, which I think is

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<v Speaker 2>really vital for I think all women, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, with like our physicality, It's like you get

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<v Speaker 2>an injury and you can.

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<v Speaker 1>Be so down on yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, it's depressing and you're immobile, and then

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<v Speaker 2>you're taking pills and you're you know, you're trying to

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<v Speaker 2>recuperate and all of that is like a real negative

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<v Speaker 2>downer on you. So to be able to pick yourself

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<v Speaker 2>back up that from that, not once, but repeatedly is

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<v Speaker 2>very admirable.

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<v Speaker 1>And to keep going.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I know a lot of people who get

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<v Speaker 2>into an accident, they don't want to ever do that

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<v Speaker 2>thing again. And it's like, oh, I want to do

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<v Speaker 2>that thing right away again because I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>be scared of it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, exactly. I mean I think to your point, a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of people can get down and I got very down.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean I got really depressed when I was injured.

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<v Speaker 5>I missed the Olympics. I was injured back to back acls,

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<v Speaker 5>which took me out for almost two years in a row.

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<v Speaker 5>And it's really hard to find anything positive, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>when you especially when you repeatedly get injured, like what

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<v Speaker 5>am I doing?

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<v Speaker 3>You know?

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<v Speaker 5>Why am I doing this? And it's hard to find

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<v Speaker 5>the motivation. But I think for me it always goes

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<v Speaker 5>back to passion, you know why I love ski racing

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<v Speaker 5>and I've always had and that's why I kept doing

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<v Speaker 5>it and kept coming back, but it doesn't make the

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<v Speaker 5>recovery any easier. You know, it's always with rehab, it's

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<v Speaker 5>always two steps forward, one step back, and sometimes one

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<v Speaker 5>step forward two steps back. You know, it's a very monotonous, long,

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<v Speaker 5>slow grind, and I just have learned through repetition that

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<v Speaker 5>you just have to stick to it and keep going,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, keep putting one foot in the front in

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<v Speaker 5>front of the other, and that's the only thing you

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<v Speaker 5>can do, honestly.

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<v Speaker 2>And your transition since you've retired has been You're still

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<v Speaker 2>really involved with the US ski team. You're still really

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<v Speaker 2>involved in skiing. You're skiing with people all the time

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<v Speaker 2>in Utah Vale or you know, all over the place,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>And so tell me it.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk to me a little bit about that transition for you,

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<v Speaker 2>because I know, as an athlete or I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>I can imagine how difficult it must be to say

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<v Speaker 2>goodbye to that part of your life. But in a

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<v Speaker 2>way you've kind of extended it in a way that

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<v Speaker 2>we haven't seen many people do publicly.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean, I definitely felt like when I retired,

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<v Speaker 5>a part of me died, you know, it was something

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<v Speaker 5>where I knew I could never go back, and I've

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<v Speaker 5>been doing it my entire life. I've been skiing since

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<v Speaker 5>I was two and a half years old. And after

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<v Speaker 5>I retired, I woke up and what I loved to

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<v Speaker 5>do every day was suddenly gone, and I had to

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<v Speaker 5>really figure out, Okay, what is it about ski racing

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<v Speaker 5>that I loved? I love being on the mountain. So

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<v Speaker 5>it took me about a year and a half, but

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<v Speaker 5>I got back out there and I relearned my passion

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<v Speaker 5>for the sport as a whole, and I enjoyed skiing

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<v Speaker 5>with my family, with my friends. I've gone to places

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<v Speaker 5>now that I've been many times before, but I've never

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<v Speaker 5>actually skied. I've been to Courschevelle, I've rached there many, many,

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<v Speaker 5>many times, but I've never been anywhere other than the

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<v Speaker 5>race trail. So I got to go back and explore

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<v Speaker 5>the mountain and you know, find my passion again. And

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<v Speaker 5>I think, you know, for me, I don't like sitting

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<v Speaker 5>still downhill. I always had adrenaline and that was really

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<v Speaker 5>hard to replace. But I've found ways to challenge myself

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<v Speaker 5>and you know, push myself now in business and just

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<v Speaker 5>keep again, like waking up every day with a new challenge,

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<v Speaker 5>and that's been exciting. It's you know, I feel like

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<v Speaker 5>there's so many opportunities and I'm excited for the future.

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<v Speaker 1>To be honest, yeah, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>I like watching what you've been doing in the last

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<v Speaker 2>couple of years. And we've known each other for a

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<v Speaker 2>long time actually, and it feels like you have really

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<v Speaker 2>found your groove and like all of these opportunities, your philanthropy,

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<v Speaker 2>your foundation, and all of the business opera tunities that

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<v Speaker 2>you have cultivated for yourself is a great model I

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<v Speaker 2>think for a lot of younger athletes who are probably

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<v Speaker 2>looking going, oh, she made this like so seamless, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, it's definitely wasn't seamless. I mean, I can't tell

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<v Speaker 5>you how hard it was. You know, as a ski racer,

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<v Speaker 5>we don't we don't make money. There's no money in

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<v Speaker 5>ski racing. So I had to really work hard to

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<v Speaker 5>make a business for myself. And my dad always made

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<v Speaker 5>me aware when I was younger that if I wanted

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<v Speaker 5>to be successful, I had to be more than an athlete,

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<v Speaker 5>and so I always took that approach. I always want

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<v Speaker 5>the extra mile. I always did all the interviews, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I was really careful with my sponsorships, what partnerships I chose,

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<v Speaker 5>always thinking long term. And I was actually made fun of.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, a lot of people were like, why are

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<v Speaker 5>you spending so much time with this, You know, you're

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<v Speaker 5>distracted from your racing, And I said, no, I can

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<v Speaker 5>do both. I can win races, I can have my

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<v Speaker 5>own business. I can be successful on multiple levels at

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<v Speaker 5>the same time. And I think, you know, just believing

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<v Speaker 5>in myself and not listening to anyone else was was

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<v Speaker 5>the best thing that I could do, because I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 5>be anywhere if I'd listened to every single person that

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<v Speaker 5>said I wouldn't do anything, or couldn't be anything, or

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<v Speaker 5>you know, couldn't multitask. Women are great multitaskers.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, you know, fucking tell me about it. I mean, honestly, like,

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<v Speaker 2>women are so much better. When I was at the

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<v Speaker 2>doctors this morning, and I would ask him one question

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<v Speaker 2>and then he just stopped everything he was doing to

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<v Speaker 2>answer the question. And I looked at him and I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to say, keep keep keep going, like don't we

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<v Speaker 2>don't have to do separate things, like you can work

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<v Speaker 2>and talk, can't.

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<v Speaker 1>You after like get it together?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, women are just like you know, you're eating

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<v Speaker 2>a hard boiled egg, feeding your dog, getting on a plane, like,

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<v Speaker 2>we're doing a million things at once. And it's so

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<v Speaker 2>crazy to me that they cannot talk and think at.

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<v Speaker 1>The same time.

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<v Speaker 5>They can't even fathom what we do. It's pretty n no.

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<v Speaker 1>I know your mom was a big influence on you.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you posted something today about her and her

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<v Speaker 2>determination and how she inspired you and showed you what

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<v Speaker 2>determination looked like.

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<v Speaker 1>So talk to me a little bit about that.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I think my mom impacted me in more

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<v Speaker 5>ways than I even really truly understand now, and I

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<v Speaker 5>think now that she's passed away, it's been a few months,

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<v Speaker 5>and you know, I still always reflect on what she

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<v Speaker 5>showed me. My mom had a stroke when she gave

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<v Speaker 5>birth to me, and she wasn't able to do physically

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<v Speaker 5>the things with me that I would have loved to

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<v Speaker 5>do with her, like ski She couldn't ride a bike.

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<v Speaker 5>The only thing she really could do what she loved

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<v Speaker 5>was swimming, which I'm ironically horrible at I think like

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<v Speaker 5>a rock. But you know, my mom always tried and

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<v Speaker 5>she failed, but she always tried. She would try to

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<v Speaker 5>ride a bike and I would watch your fall over

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<v Speaker 5>and over and over again. But she always got back up,

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<v Speaker 5>and she always tried, and she always had a smile,

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<v Speaker 5>and she always was positive. And even when you know,

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<v Speaker 5>she was in her hospital bed and she couldn't move

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<v Speaker 5>her arms or legs, she was positive and she said,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, today is another great day. And it got

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<v Speaker 5>harder and harder, but she never lost that perspective. And

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<v Speaker 5>I felt like when I was injured, I was lucky

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<v Speaker 5>to have the opportunity to try again. You know, my

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<v Speaker 5>mom didn't have that opportunity because of her stroke. So

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<v Speaker 5>I think throughout my career it's always given me a

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<v Speaker 5>different sense of gratefulness that I think, you know, sometimes

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<v Speaker 5>we lose sight of. I'm lucky to follow my passion

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<v Speaker 5>every single day. I'm lucky that I'm walking and I'm

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<v Speaker 5>you know, while I hate running, I could run if

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<v Speaker 5>I wanted to. It could always be worse, and you know,

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<v Speaker 5>we just have to be positive. And that's always what

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<v Speaker 5>my mom taught me. And I'm very grateful for her influence.

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<v Speaker 5>And again, well I didn't really fully understand it when

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<v Speaker 5>I was growing up. I certainly understood it now, and

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<v Speaker 5>I wish i'd had a little more time with her

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<v Speaker 5>to be able to share more things with her.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I think you continue to understand it the

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<v Speaker 2>longer we're without our moms. You know, when my mom

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<v Speaker 2>passed away, I certainly was too young to even understand

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<v Speaker 2>on the impact. I remember be talking in this interview

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<v Speaker 2>about somebody asking me why I'm so strong, And I

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<v Speaker 2>remember talking because I saw the way my mother and

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<v Speaker 2>my dad's dynamic was and I didn't like that. And

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<v Speaker 2>that is just so diminishing to my mother, because my

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<v Speaker 2>mother sacrificed so much, you know, to be our mother

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<v Speaker 2>to not you know, she didn't get to live and

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<v Speaker 2>pursue her dreams the way that I'm able to live

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<v Speaker 2>and pursue my dreams.

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<v Speaker 1>The reason I'm able to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Is because of my mother. And so I remember I

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<v Speaker 2>was reading this book recently. It's called The Seven Deadly Sins.

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<v Speaker 2>We're having this author on She's awesome, and it just

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<v Speaker 2>talks about how we don't give our mothers enough credit

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<v Speaker 2>for even just the time that they grew up and

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<v Speaker 2>the time that they raised us in It was so

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<v Speaker 2>prohibitive for them. Yet here are people that are able

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<v Speaker 2>to like live out their dreams and go after what

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<v Speaker 2>they want because our mothers were available to give us

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<v Speaker 2>the allowance and the freedom to do that, and if

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<v Speaker 2>they hadn't sacrificed what they had. And I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>that's even just beginning to sink in for me. But

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<v Speaker 2>I do feel like we talk a lot about, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>people who have passed on on the show, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure how spirritual you are, but I know

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<v Speaker 2>that you're open minded. And I feel like my relationship

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<v Speaker 2>with my mother since she died is stronger than it

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<v Speaker 2>was when we were together on this earth. And there

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<v Speaker 2>are so many moments where I just feel her presence

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<v Speaker 2>so much guiding me and steering me, like in this

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<v Speaker 2>very sagacious, worldly way, which she was not like when

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<v Speaker 2>I was growing up. But that's exactly who she was,

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<v Speaker 2>according to my brothers and sisters. I just never had

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<v Speaker 2>the patience or the time to find that out about

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<v Speaker 2>my mother, you know, because by the time she had.

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<v Speaker 1>Me, she was older.

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<v Speaker 2>So I have to say, like, the idea that relationships

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<v Speaker 2>can even strengthen beyond them being here on earth, I

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<v Speaker 2>totally believe to be true. And I hope you feel

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<v Speaker 2>that too, and are open to those signs and signals

0:25:48.720 --> 0:25:51.240
<v Speaker 2>and like, you know, the stillness sometimes when you feel

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<v Speaker 2>another person's presence is really just so powerful.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>And my mom actually lost her mom when she was

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<v Speaker 5>young as well, and when she was in the hospital,

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<v Speaker 5>she said, I want you after I'm gone, to talk

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<v Speaker 5>to me as if I'm there, and I will be

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<v Speaker 5>there and I will listen, just like my mom was

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<v Speaker 5>there listening to me. And it gave me a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of comfort. And you know, I when I ever I

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<v Speaker 5>want to call her, I just I just talked to her.

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<v Speaker 5>She's there.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, yeah, she is. Yeah, it's so sweet. I believe

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<v Speaker 1>that our moms are there.

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<v Speaker 2>Hopefully they're hanging out and your mom isching my mom something,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, hopefully.

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<v Speaker 1>Listening to the podcast right now. Blah blah, crying.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, anyway, thank you for sharing, Thank you for being candid.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like we just had this moment.

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<v Speaker 1>We did.

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<v Speaker 5>We were.

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<v Speaker 1>Last time we saw each other.

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<v Speaker 2>We were on the Kelly Clarkson Show or no, was

0:26:45.240 --> 0:26:49.040
<v Speaker 2>it Kelly class was Kelly Clark with Wolfgang Fuck And

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<v Speaker 2>we were talking about her book and she started crying,

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<v Speaker 2>and then of course I started crying because it's contagious

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<v Speaker 2>and so now we're just crying whenever we see each other.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So, anyway, we're going to take some callers.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna call in and we're gonna give them some advice,

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<v Speaker 2>and we've curated this episode to suit things that you would.

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<v Speaker 1>Have experience with.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, okay, and we'll take a break and grab some

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<v Speaker 4>cleanex and be right back.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're back.

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<v Speaker 1>We'refrect Are we ready to continue?

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<v Speaker 3>We're doing okay?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, okay, i'd be great.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, our first question comes from Rachel in Denver, and

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<v Speaker 4>she obviously, somehow a month before we talked about getting

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<v Speaker 4>you on the show, knew that you were going to

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<v Speaker 4>come on.

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<v Speaker 1>She manifested it.

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<v Speaker 4>And so she says thank you in advance for reading

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<v Speaker 4>my letter. I'm hoping Lindsay Vaughn makes an appearance on

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<v Speaker 4>the podcast, so this question is written to both Chelsea

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<v Speaker 4>and Lindsay. Dear Chelsea and Lindsay. I'm a thirty three

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<v Speaker 4>year old single female living in the Denver area of

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<v Speaker 4>Colorado with my dog Hide. My main hobbies are mountain

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<v Speaker 4>biking and skiing, but I love staying active in general.

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<v Speaker 4>A year ago, I ended a toxic long term relationship.

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<v Speaker 4>Even though it was a crazy past year, I was

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<v Speaker 4>actually able to achieve one of my life goals, which

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<v Speaker 4>was buying a second house and turning both of my

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<v Speaker 4>houses into airbnbs. It's been incredible to make the leap

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<v Speaker 4>and finally do what I've been dreaming of. Owning and

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<v Speaker 4>running these two businesses while still having my full time job.

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<v Speaker 4>Has allowed me to start saving for my second life goal,

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<v Speaker 4>which is to take a mini retirement before I'm forty

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<v Speaker 4>so I can travel the world mountain biking and skiing.

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<v Speaker 4>This leads me right.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that.

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<v Speaker 4>This leads me to my first question, which is what

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<v Speaker 4>are your tips for being a single, solo female traveler.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to be able to make new friends and

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<v Speaker 4>ski and mountain bike wherever I travel to. In particular,

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<v Speaker 4>how can I make friends with guys who like these

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<v Speaker 4>activities without looking like I'm interested in them. My second

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<v Speaker 4>question is do you have any recommendations on a good

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<v Speaker 4>ski jacket and bib Combo. I've had my same ski

0:28:49.200 --> 0:28:51.720
<v Speaker 4>outfit since college and it's starting to fall apart. I

0:28:51.800 --> 0:28:54.280
<v Speaker 4>took Chelsea's advice and got some heated gloves this season.

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<v Speaker 4>They've been life changing, so I'm curious what ski apparel

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<v Speaker 4>brands you like best. I want to look good a

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<v Speaker 4>really warm while out there.

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<v Speaker 3>Rachel.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, let me answer the last part first, because

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<v Speaker 2>Lindsay sent me her fucking suit which is called core

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<v Speaker 2>right by it it's by Head, but Lindsay designed it.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the best ski suit I have ever had.

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<v Speaker 2>It's two pieces, but it has it's Is it gore

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<v Speaker 2>tex or is it something stronger than gortex, because I.

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<v Speaker 5>Think I think it's something similar but stronger.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because I have gortex suits and they're not like this,

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<v Speaker 2>and I love Arctarics, that's what I usually wear. This

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<v Speaker 2>is better than Arctarics. This not only keeps the cold

0:29:30.360 --> 0:29:32.720
<v Speaker 2>the wet out, it keeps the wind out. It's somehow

0:29:32.800 --> 0:29:37.280
<v Speaker 2>fucking windproof this suit. And Whistler has very strange weather patterns,

0:29:37.320 --> 0:29:39.720
<v Speaker 2>so there's a lot of really like Arctic blasts, and

0:29:39.760 --> 0:29:40.600
<v Speaker 2>it gets really cold.

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<v Speaker 1>Most people don't like to ski in that. I love that,

0:29:43.280 --> 0:29:44.400
<v Speaker 1>but this keeps me warm.

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<v Speaker 2>And this scuit, I mean this suit, Lindsay. Everyone stopped me.

0:29:47.440 --> 0:29:49.239
<v Speaker 2>I've never worn a suit so many days in a row,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I wore this suit.

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<v Speaker 5>I know, I actually noticed that I'm like, Wow, she

0:29:52.840 --> 0:29:55.120
<v Speaker 5>doesn't stop worrying it. She must like it because you

0:29:55.280 --> 0:29:58.360
<v Speaker 5>normally change like every single day, which I do too,

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<v Speaker 5>so I get it. But I appreciate the support. That

0:30:02.000 --> 0:30:04.680
<v Speaker 5>was like a great that was a great ad life.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just the best suit. And I'm not full of shit.

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<v Speaker 5>I love it so much, like I you literally wouldn't

0:30:09.440 --> 0:30:10.440
<v Speaker 5>wear it if you didn't like it.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that, Yes, you do know that.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'll just all the details, even around the knees,

0:30:15.520 --> 0:30:19.000
<v Speaker 2>like that little roushing and then like the bottom couffs, everything,

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<v Speaker 2>the pockets.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything is perfect on this jacket.

0:30:21.600 --> 0:30:24.280
<v Speaker 2>And when you ski, like you know, if you're protecting

0:30:24.600 --> 0:30:26.560
<v Speaker 2>the back of your helmet, which I learned like how

0:30:26.640 --> 0:30:28.160
<v Speaker 2>to keep you know, you always want to trap heat

0:30:28.160 --> 0:30:30.920
<v Speaker 2>when it's really cold. This suit is just like it's

0:30:30.920 --> 0:30:33.600
<v Speaker 2>almost like a NASA suit. That's how I felt like.

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<v Speaker 2>I just felt tougher. So everybody who anybody who's listening

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<v Speaker 2>that wants to ski, yeah, please look into her. Go

0:30:40.280 --> 0:30:42.400
<v Speaker 2>find Does it come in different colors or is that

0:30:42.520 --> 0:30:43.040
<v Speaker 2>one color?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah? I think it's it's in like forest green and

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<v Speaker 5>baby blue and yellow and black. Oh great, Oh perfect,

0:30:50.400 --> 0:30:51.800
<v Speaker 5>that's nice. Y, So I'll have to send you some

0:30:51.920 --> 0:30:54.480
<v Speaker 5>more colors so you can rotate instead of just having

0:30:55.120 --> 0:30:58.160
<v Speaker 5>every single day. Although green's my favorite color, so I

0:30:58.280 --> 0:30:59.440
<v Speaker 5>do think you look great at that.

0:30:59.800 --> 0:31:01.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's a pretty color. And let me know how

0:31:01.720 --> 0:31:02.720
<v Speaker 1>that knee surgery goes.

0:31:02.760 --> 0:31:06.160
<v Speaker 2>Also, because I'm interested in possibly replacing my knees at

0:31:06.200 --> 0:31:07.200
<v Speaker 2>some point both of them.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes you should. I mean I know a lot of

0:31:10.560 --> 0:31:13.320
<v Speaker 5>people that have had it, and they've all raved about it,

0:31:13.520 --> 0:31:17.600
<v Speaker 5>so I am very excited. I'm always limited with what

0:31:17.720 --> 0:31:20.360
<v Speaker 5>I can do physically because of my knee, and I'm

0:31:20.680 --> 0:31:23.360
<v Speaker 5>excited to hopefully not have that in the future.

0:31:23.520 --> 0:31:25.960
<v Speaker 2>Plus, you're so good at recovering from surgeries, like this

0:31:26.080 --> 0:31:27.160
<v Speaker 2>is going to be a please from you.

0:31:27.280 --> 0:31:28.720
<v Speaker 5>I can do my own rehab.

0:31:29.120 --> 0:31:29.360
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:31:30.120 --> 0:31:31.920
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So the first part of that woman's question.

0:31:32.160 --> 0:31:34.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So the first part was how does she get

0:31:34.120 --> 0:31:36.840
<v Speaker 2>into groups and meet guys without there thinking they're into them?

0:31:36.880 --> 0:31:40.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't, right, Well, that's a separate issue. The first issue.

0:31:40.040 --> 0:31:42.200
<v Speaker 1>First of all, you should join Strata if you have it.

0:31:42.360 --> 0:31:44.720
<v Speaker 2>If you're not on Strata, because that's a great bike

0:31:44.800 --> 0:31:48.080
<v Speaker 2>riding community where you can compare speeds, meet people, talk

0:31:48.120 --> 0:31:48.680
<v Speaker 2>to people who.

0:31:48.600 --> 0:31:49.880
<v Speaker 1>Are in the area that you're going to.

0:31:50.320 --> 0:31:52.920
<v Speaker 2>If you don't want to go on these adventures by yourself,

0:31:53.360 --> 0:31:56.800
<v Speaker 2>there's always cycling groups. You know, in my Orca, I know,

0:31:56.920 --> 0:31:59.120
<v Speaker 2>there's tons of cycling groups that you can join as

0:31:59.160 --> 0:32:01.920
<v Speaker 2>a single person and find people that are also going

0:32:02.000 --> 0:32:04.200
<v Speaker 2>to be single, so that you're never really alone traveling,

0:32:04.200 --> 0:32:06.360
<v Speaker 2>because I think as a female it is more important

0:32:06.400 --> 0:32:09.160
<v Speaker 2>to always surround yourself with some people that are going

0:32:09.240 --> 0:32:11.040
<v Speaker 2>to be there, you know, whether they're friends or not.

0:32:11.200 --> 0:32:12.880
<v Speaker 2>It's just better not to be alone as a woman

0:32:12.960 --> 0:32:15.959
<v Speaker 2>in some some parts of the world, like the United States.

0:32:16.560 --> 0:32:18.960
<v Speaker 2>So I would definitely do that joint strati if you're

0:32:19.000 --> 0:32:22.040
<v Speaker 2>not already on that. And all of these activities you're

0:32:22.040 --> 0:32:25.160
<v Speaker 2>talking about, whether it's skiing or whether it's biking, you

0:32:25.320 --> 0:32:27.840
<v Speaker 2>could always find these groups too, Like you know, there's

0:32:28.040 --> 0:32:30.880
<v Speaker 2>there's always like a social aspect for skiing.

0:32:30.960 --> 0:32:34.480
<v Speaker 5>There's also like in Portillo, Chili, there's you know, groups

0:32:34.520 --> 0:32:37.000
<v Speaker 5>that come down. There's also singles women's week. You know,

0:32:37.080 --> 0:32:40.959
<v Speaker 5>there's most ski resorts have you know, either a singles

0:32:41.040 --> 0:32:43.760
<v Speaker 5>week or a women's only week. You know, there's a

0:32:43.880 --> 0:32:46.480
<v Speaker 5>ton of groups that you can travel with and meet

0:32:46.560 --> 0:32:48.800
<v Speaker 5>up with, so you're not by yourself, but you're with

0:32:49.040 --> 0:32:51.760
<v Speaker 5>people that are equally excited to do what you want

0:32:51.840 --> 0:32:51.960
<v Speaker 5>to do.

0:32:52.440 --> 0:32:53.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so that's the easy part.

0:32:54.440 --> 0:32:57.280
<v Speaker 2>So get your ski suit, go on your trips, join

0:32:57.360 --> 0:32:59.400
<v Speaker 2>all these clubs, and then come back with a husband

0:32:59.600 --> 0:33:03.200
<v Speaker 2>or ye per excellent, excellent.

0:33:03.760 --> 0:33:06.640
<v Speaker 4>Well, our next question comes from Miranda, and she's going

0:33:06.680 --> 0:33:09.880
<v Speaker 4>to be joining us here on the zoom. She's twenty eight.

0:33:10.400 --> 0:33:13.440
<v Speaker 4>Dear Chelsea, I'm a female golfer and constantly on the

0:33:13.480 --> 0:33:16.560
<v Speaker 4>golf course men make sexist comments toward me and my

0:33:16.680 --> 0:33:20.280
<v Speaker 4>female friends. I usually just laugh off their quote unquote jokes,

0:33:20.400 --> 0:33:22.800
<v Speaker 4>but it bothers me so much to the point where

0:33:22.800 --> 0:33:25.880
<v Speaker 4>it negatively affects my game and my desire to get

0:33:25.920 --> 0:33:28.160
<v Speaker 4>on the course. I've asked a couple of women in

0:33:28.200 --> 0:33:30.440
<v Speaker 4>my life for advice about this, but there are never

0:33:30.520 --> 0:33:33.840
<v Speaker 4>any concrete ideas. I feel like Chelsea would have good

0:33:33.880 --> 0:33:35.520
<v Speaker 4>tips on how I can put these men in their

0:33:35.560 --> 0:33:38.000
<v Speaker 4>place or not let it affect me as much as

0:33:38.080 --> 0:33:40.920
<v Speaker 4>it does. It happens almost every round that we get

0:33:40.960 --> 0:33:43.800
<v Speaker 4>paired with older men. I absolutely love golf, but this

0:33:43.920 --> 0:33:46.160
<v Speaker 4>aspect of it fills me with such anxiety that I

0:33:46.240 --> 0:33:49.280
<v Speaker 4>wonder of continuing to play is even worth it? Miranda?

0:33:49.760 --> 0:33:53.120
<v Speaker 1>Hi, Miranda, Hello, how's it going good.

0:33:53.200 --> 0:33:55.480
<v Speaker 2>Our special guest is Lindsay Vaughan. So you have heard

0:33:55.520 --> 0:33:57.080
<v Speaker 2>today to give you advice as well.

0:33:57.680 --> 0:34:01.240
<v Speaker 3>How are you good? How are you good? I normally

0:34:01.360 --> 0:34:03.240
<v Speaker 3>cheer for Team Canada that I can make an exception

0:34:03.360 --> 0:34:03.640
<v Speaker 3>to them.

0:34:04.600 --> 0:34:05.360
<v Speaker 1>I think you'll have to.

0:34:07.000 --> 0:34:10.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, anyway, you're right, you're right.

0:34:10.680 --> 0:34:13.080
<v Speaker 1>Well, Lindsay, do you want to start this one? Because

0:34:13.120 --> 0:34:15.040
<v Speaker 1>I feel like you've probably had a lot of experience

0:34:15.160 --> 0:34:15.879
<v Speaker 1>with this kind of thing.

0:34:16.440 --> 0:34:20.080
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I definitely have. I honestly I enjoy it. I

0:34:20.400 --> 0:34:24.600
<v Speaker 5>use it to my advantage and I love also self deprecation.

0:34:24.920 --> 0:34:28.360
<v Speaker 5>So you know, whatever guys throw at me, I usually

0:34:28.480 --> 0:34:32.279
<v Speaker 5>make some self deprecating comment back, or you know, I

0:34:32.400 --> 0:34:34.799
<v Speaker 5>hit them with I kind of flip it around on them,

0:34:35.239 --> 0:34:37.520
<v Speaker 5>or you know, I don't know. I just find that

0:34:37.920 --> 0:34:40.880
<v Speaker 5>the more I use it as like a positive, I

0:34:41.000 --> 0:34:43.839
<v Speaker 5>always performed better when I was keying when people made

0:34:43.880 --> 0:34:46.359
<v Speaker 5>fun of me, especially men. I mean, I've been made

0:34:46.400 --> 0:34:49.399
<v Speaker 5>fun of for literally everything, and I'm still being made

0:34:49.440 --> 0:34:52.399
<v Speaker 5>fun of, which is kind of insane. Like I got

0:34:52.480 --> 0:34:55.560
<v Speaker 5>comments because I was wearing a tight one piece suit

0:34:55.640 --> 0:34:58.520
<v Speaker 5>the other day and someone that I've known for a

0:34:58.600 --> 0:35:01.800
<v Speaker 5>long time made a comment about how tight my suit was,

0:35:02.440 --> 0:35:04.720
<v Speaker 5>and I was like, you know what, the guy's just jealous,

0:35:04.920 --> 0:35:07.600
<v Speaker 5>you know, he's you know, you know, they're jealous of

0:35:07.680 --> 0:35:11.040
<v Speaker 5>what I have. And and again I don't take it personally,

0:35:11.280 --> 0:35:15.239
<v Speaker 5>which is obviously easier said than done. But however, you

0:35:15.320 --> 0:35:18.480
<v Speaker 5>can flip it, whether it's in your mind or it's

0:35:18.520 --> 0:35:22.000
<v Speaker 5>a comment back to them, the better, and you know,

0:35:22.200 --> 0:35:23.840
<v Speaker 5>you again use it to your advantage.

0:35:25.560 --> 0:35:26.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's a good point.

0:35:27.000 --> 0:35:28.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I like that. I like the idea of using

0:35:29.040 --> 0:35:29.640
<v Speaker 1>it to fuel you.

0:35:29.800 --> 0:35:31.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean, listen, if you're talking to me, obviously I'm

0:35:32.040 --> 0:35:33.680
<v Speaker 2>just gonna go off on that guy and they're never

0:35:33.760 --> 0:35:34.759
<v Speaker 2>going to say another thing to me.

0:35:34.840 --> 0:35:36.640
<v Speaker 5>Again, I knew that was coming.

0:35:37.040 --> 0:35:38.759
<v Speaker 2>I can't give you the language to do that, but

0:35:38.880 --> 0:35:41.120
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you just give a dish up what they're

0:35:41.160 --> 0:35:43.720
<v Speaker 2>dishing up right back at them. Because men can't handle

0:35:43.840 --> 0:35:46.080
<v Speaker 2>what they say to women. They can't fucking handle it.

0:35:46.160 --> 0:35:48.120
<v Speaker 2>They're sensitive and they're insecure.

0:35:48.320 --> 0:35:48.720
<v Speaker 3>Secure.

0:35:49.760 --> 0:35:50.760
<v Speaker 1>You wouldn't be making.

0:35:50.600 --> 0:35:52.520
<v Speaker 2>Fun of somebody unless you were insecure, you know what

0:35:52.560 --> 0:35:55.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean, especially when you haven't done anything to deserve that.

0:35:56.040 --> 0:35:56.640
<v Speaker 1>You're golfing.

0:35:57.400 --> 0:35:59.960
<v Speaker 3>I know, I feel like by me not saying anything,

0:36:00.080 --> 0:36:03.760
<v Speaker 3>it almost compromises my comfort just to almost protect theirs,

0:36:03.840 --> 0:36:06.120
<v Speaker 3>which which I hate. And the annoying thing is it

0:36:06.239 --> 0:36:09.239
<v Speaker 3>normally happens when like I normally only golf with one friend,

0:36:09.280 --> 0:36:11.040
<v Speaker 3>and when you only book a tea time for two people,

0:36:11.080 --> 0:36:13.759
<v Speaker 3>they always pair you with two other people, and it's

0:36:13.800 --> 0:36:16.560
<v Speaker 3>always two older men that are saying stuff to us

0:36:16.640 --> 0:36:20.560
<v Speaker 3>the entire time. So it's basically four hours of this.

0:36:20.760 --> 0:36:22.960
<v Speaker 3>Sometimes they're great, and sometimes the groups are horrible, and

0:36:23.080 --> 0:36:24.880
<v Speaker 3>like they say stuff to us right when we start,

0:36:25.360 --> 0:36:27.560
<v Speaker 3>and then it just puts me in a shitty mood

0:36:27.840 --> 0:36:30.200
<v Speaker 3>for the whole day. But yeah, you're right.

0:36:30.360 --> 0:36:33.000
<v Speaker 5>Also, the question is like why golf? I feel like

0:36:33.080 --> 0:36:35.000
<v Speaker 5>there could be a better sport.

0:36:35.120 --> 0:36:39.799
<v Speaker 1>No, let's deconstruct this even more.

0:36:40.200 --> 0:36:40.919
<v Speaker 3>That's a good point.

0:36:41.680 --> 0:36:43.000
<v Speaker 1>I think it's that you're playing golf.

0:36:43.239 --> 0:36:45.000
<v Speaker 3>That's a good point. I took it up during COVID.

0:36:45.080 --> 0:36:47.080
<v Speaker 3>You know what you get outside, you have some drinks,

0:36:47.200 --> 0:36:49.360
<v Speaker 3>riding in a car. It's very fun. I find it relaxing.

0:36:49.480 --> 0:36:50.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it sounds like you need to get two more

0:36:51.000 --> 0:36:51.960
<v Speaker 1>friends though to do it.

0:36:52.480 --> 0:36:54.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're not. Your day isn't ruined every day by

0:36:54.760 --> 0:36:57.919
<v Speaker 2>these two idiots. So A, get some other friends, rope

0:36:57.960 --> 0:37:01.279
<v Speaker 2>them into golfing. Actually, A I and find a different sport. B.

0:37:01.920 --> 0:37:04.200
<v Speaker 2>If you're going to stick to golfing, rope some other

0:37:04.239 --> 0:37:05.680
<v Speaker 2>friends in so you don't have to deal with two

0:37:05.719 --> 0:37:06.360
<v Speaker 2>guys you don't know.

0:37:06.880 --> 0:37:07.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I have done that.

0:37:08.160 --> 0:37:10.480
<v Speaker 1>And see, make sure you give it back to them.

0:37:10.680 --> 0:37:13.040
<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean. They will cower as soon

0:37:13.120 --> 0:37:14.080
<v Speaker 1>as you level it up.

0:37:14.239 --> 0:37:16.640
<v Speaker 2>Men, understand that the dynamic is shift. As long as

0:37:16.680 --> 0:37:18.520
<v Speaker 2>you're not saying anything, they're going to keep going in

0:37:18.640 --> 0:37:20.560
<v Speaker 2>on you. It's like a bully. And as soon as

0:37:20.600 --> 0:37:22.799
<v Speaker 2>you turn around and say, hey, like this guy said

0:37:22.800 --> 0:37:24.920
<v Speaker 2>to me the other day, these guys invited me, helly skiing?

0:37:24.960 --> 0:37:27.399
<v Speaker 2>I said, no, my knee's really blown, like my knee

0:37:27.440 --> 0:37:28.120
<v Speaker 2>was too swollen.

0:37:28.320 --> 0:37:30.800
<v Speaker 1>I go, my knee hurts. He goes, oh, your knee hurts,

0:37:30.840 --> 0:37:32.439
<v Speaker 1>like oh yeah, And I don't want to be seen

0:37:32.600 --> 0:37:35.120
<v Speaker 1>skiing like you see. That's good?

0:37:35.440 --> 0:37:36.480
<v Speaker 5>Right, So good?

0:37:36.840 --> 0:37:37.399
<v Speaker 1>That was over.

0:37:37.520 --> 0:37:40.640
<v Speaker 2>That conversation ended, and he never came back around. If

0:37:40.680 --> 0:37:43.239
<v Speaker 2>I hadn't done that, he would have continued on and

0:37:43.360 --> 0:37:45.920
<v Speaker 2>on and on. But it's good to just kind of

0:37:46.120 --> 0:37:48.359
<v Speaker 2>get some stuff in your arsenal that you could throw

0:37:48.440 --> 0:37:50.840
<v Speaker 2>back at them. And with men, it's really not that difficult,

0:37:51.360 --> 0:37:53.080
<v Speaker 2>Like you don't have to be that prepared for what

0:37:53.160 --> 0:37:53.879
<v Speaker 2>they're talking about.

0:37:53.960 --> 0:37:57.200
<v Speaker 3>No, you know, yeah, you're very right. They're always the

0:37:57.239 --> 0:38:00.760
<v Speaker 3>stupidest jokes too. They're not funny at all. They're all terrible.

0:38:01.000 --> 0:38:02.560
<v Speaker 3>It's never it's like if you're gonna make a joke too,

0:38:02.640 --> 0:38:05.239
<v Speaker 3>to make it a little bit funny entertaining something though,

0:38:05.280 --> 0:38:07.719
<v Speaker 3>it's always like a guy puts the ball not very

0:38:07.760 --> 0:38:09.239
<v Speaker 3>far and he says to his friend like, oh, you

0:38:09.320 --> 0:38:11.200
<v Speaker 3>hit that one with your purse, so stupid.

0:38:11.640 --> 0:38:12.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly.

0:38:12.680 --> 0:38:15.200
<v Speaker 5>You can come up with some good, good lines in return.

0:38:15.360 --> 0:38:17.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I can come up with something better than that.

0:38:17.480 --> 0:38:18.960
<v Speaker 3>But it's just I feel like it always throws me

0:38:19.000 --> 0:38:21.000
<v Speaker 3>off guard every time, which is so strange because I

0:38:21.040 --> 0:38:22.080
<v Speaker 3>should be used to it by now.

0:38:22.200 --> 0:38:23.880
<v Speaker 2>Well, then you have to get more prepared. You have

0:38:23.960 --> 0:38:26.520
<v Speaker 2>to go in there more prepared with the mission. Like today,

0:38:26.800 --> 0:38:28.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to give it back. I'm going to serve

0:38:28.120 --> 0:38:29.719
<v Speaker 2>it right back up to them, And just think about

0:38:29.760 --> 0:38:33.080
<v Speaker 2>every woman that you are helping by you using your voice,

0:38:33.120 --> 0:38:34.920
<v Speaker 2>because the next time they run into a woman like

0:38:35.000 --> 0:38:37.440
<v Speaker 2>you they're going to be much less likely to harass her.

0:38:37.600 --> 0:38:40.200
<v Speaker 1>So if you need that as an extra motivation, use it.

0:38:41.040 --> 0:38:41.719
<v Speaker 3>That's a good point.

0:38:42.080 --> 0:38:43.600
<v Speaker 4>And to your point, they're going to say the same

0:38:43.680 --> 0:38:45.319
<v Speaker 4>jokes every time, so you're not gonna have to come

0:38:45.400 --> 0:38:47.040
<v Speaker 4>up with that many like clapbacks.

0:38:48.280 --> 0:38:50.840
<v Speaker 2>Right, yeah, oh it looks like you hit that with

0:38:50.960 --> 0:38:52.400
<v Speaker 2>your purse. You can say what it looks like you

0:38:52.480 --> 0:38:55.200
<v Speaker 2>hit that with one of your balls. There's lots of

0:38:55.360 --> 0:38:58.920
<v Speaker 2>old man bald jokes that you can make, or you know,

0:38:59.480 --> 0:39:01.560
<v Speaker 2>intellect jokes, or the fact that we're in the year

0:39:01.600 --> 0:39:02.439
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty four?

0:39:03.080 --> 0:39:07.920
<v Speaker 1>Is it twenty three? Yeah, don't take next year that

0:39:08.239 --> 0:39:09.320
<v Speaker 1>I've been thinking it was twenty.

0:39:09.200 --> 0:39:11.080
<v Speaker 2>Twenty four for like two years already. I don't know

0:39:11.480 --> 0:39:13.800
<v Speaker 2>what i'm smoking. Well, we all know what i'm smoking

0:39:13.800 --> 0:39:17.560
<v Speaker 2>at that's a given. Also, try smoking pot while you're

0:39:17.560 --> 0:39:19.279
<v Speaker 2>at the golf course. You won't give a shit about

0:39:19.280 --> 0:39:22.399
<v Speaker 2>anything then true about what they're saying. You'll be really

0:39:22.480 --> 0:39:23.439
<v Speaker 2>focused on your game.

0:39:23.880 --> 0:39:26.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, Normally the drinking comes into play and it

0:39:26.280 --> 0:39:29.240
<v Speaker 3>makes it a little easier, but it's just more annoying

0:39:29.280 --> 0:39:31.600
<v Speaker 3>than anything. It's just irritating that people are still saying

0:39:31.640 --> 0:39:32.040
<v Speaker 3>things like this.

0:39:32.440 --> 0:39:34.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but definitely don't let anyone decide like how you're

0:39:34.960 --> 0:39:36.480
<v Speaker 2>going to spend your time. You're not going to knock

0:39:36.480 --> 0:39:38.839
<v Speaker 2>golf because guys are there. You're going to make sure

0:39:38.840 --> 0:39:39.280
<v Speaker 2>that you're.

0:39:39.160 --> 0:39:40.839
<v Speaker 1>Going to golf. You know what I mean? That you're

0:39:40.880 --> 0:39:42.680
<v Speaker 1>going to be fine when guys are around.

0:39:43.040 --> 0:39:45.320
<v Speaker 3>Right, as long as I don't pick another sport before then.

0:39:45.520 --> 0:39:48.320
<v Speaker 1>Well yeah, I mean try volleyball or something that seems

0:39:48.840 --> 0:39:49.480
<v Speaker 1>going to be the.

0:39:49.520 --> 0:39:51.200
<v Speaker 3>Team sports are Okay, I got a couple of those

0:39:51.239 --> 0:39:53.520
<v Speaker 3>on lock. But you know this is good for summer.

0:39:53.560 --> 0:39:54.320
<v Speaker 3>It's good for summer.

0:39:54.360 --> 0:39:57.120
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, okay, good, yeah, awesome.

0:39:57.320 --> 0:39:59.759
<v Speaker 4>Well Branda, please let us know what kind of come

0:39:59.840 --> 0:40:02.239
<v Speaker 4>back to come up with and how it goes next time.

0:40:02.840 --> 0:40:04.680
<v Speaker 3>All right, Well, do can I say one thing before

0:40:04.800 --> 0:40:07.480
<v Speaker 3>I leave? Chelsea and Catherine. I thought of you guys

0:40:07.480 --> 0:40:09.080
<v Speaker 3>the other day because me and my friends were on

0:40:09.120 --> 0:40:12.160
<v Speaker 3>our way to a ski trip and my friend decided

0:40:12.200 --> 0:40:15.759
<v Speaker 3>she would eat her breakfast in the car and it

0:40:15.880 --> 0:40:19.000
<v Speaker 3>consisted of hard boiled eggs, and right before I turned around,

0:40:19.000 --> 0:40:20.800
<v Speaker 3>I saw her about to open the container and I

0:40:20.880 --> 0:40:22.920
<v Speaker 3>prevented it from happening. But I could not believe she

0:40:23.000 --> 0:40:23.920
<v Speaker 3>was gonna eat them in the car.

0:40:24.760 --> 0:40:27.319
<v Speaker 4>I could not believe that in the privacy of her

0:40:27.400 --> 0:40:27.960
<v Speaker 4>car of car.

0:40:28.360 --> 0:40:29.200
<v Speaker 5>It was our car.

0:40:29.440 --> 0:40:31.479
<v Speaker 3>I was, my boyfriend was driving. I was in the front.

0:40:31.680 --> 0:40:34.600
<v Speaker 2>Let's catch Lindsay up on this so she's aware, Lindsay.

0:40:35.040 --> 0:40:38.160
<v Speaker 2>It was revealed to me late last year, in twenty

0:40:38.239 --> 0:40:43.640
<v Speaker 2>twenty three, that Catherine travels regularly on planes with a

0:40:44.120 --> 0:40:47.160
<v Speaker 2>ziploc bag of hard boiled eggs that have been peeled

0:40:47.920 --> 0:40:51.080
<v Speaker 2>and then and eats them because they're a good source

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<v Speaker 2>of protein. I said, well, it is true.

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<v Speaker 5>However, they do smell like heart boiled eggs.

0:40:59.040 --> 0:41:02.200
<v Speaker 1>Foot eggs smell no feet.

0:41:02.239 --> 0:41:05.880
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, smell like ass. But I think, you know, maybe

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<v Speaker 5>maybe eat them before you get on the plane because

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<v Speaker 5>they are a good source of protein. But like spare

0:41:11.680 --> 0:41:12.800
<v Speaker 5>your seat made.

0:41:13.000 --> 0:41:16.400
<v Speaker 3>When you're closed vehicle. I made her eat them in

0:41:16.400 --> 0:41:18.080
<v Speaker 3>the parking lot. She was standing in the parking lot

0:41:18.120 --> 0:41:20.160
<v Speaker 3>eating them, because I I mean, that's a.

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<v Speaker 5>Fair, that's a fair.

0:41:21.360 --> 0:41:23.800
<v Speaker 2>Some peanut butter or something like a peanut butter stick like,

0:41:23.880 --> 0:41:27.439
<v Speaker 2>that's better. That's not offensive to anyone. Everyone loves peanut butter.

0:41:27.960 --> 0:41:30.560
<v Speaker 2>Almonds don't smell except the kids.

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<v Speaker 1>That are allergic to peanut butter on planes.

0:41:32.640 --> 0:41:34.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's many options.

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<v Speaker 2>I flew home from from somewhere yesterday and they put

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<v Speaker 2>down a thing of those almonds, and I'm just like,

0:41:39.120 --> 0:41:41.319
<v Speaker 2>those are the most unappealing almonds I've ever seen.

0:41:41.719 --> 0:41:44.920
<v Speaker 4>Like I was just like what, I was, just like unsalted,

0:41:45.040 --> 0:41:45.920
<v Speaker 4>and I just looked at them.

0:41:45.960 --> 0:41:47.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I don't even want one, you know, like

0:41:47.440 --> 0:41:49.480
<v Speaker 2>almonds when they're hot on a plane are good. When

0:41:49.480 --> 0:41:51.440
<v Speaker 2>they don't do that and they just throw some mixed together,

0:41:51.480 --> 0:41:54.839
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, no, no, no, back the fuck up, bring

0:41:54.960 --> 0:41:57.839
<v Speaker 2>me some eggs anyway, So grab your obits and grab

0:41:57.880 --> 0:41:59.640
<v Speaker 2>your peanut butter, don't grab your eggs.

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<v Speaker 1>Head to the golf course and stand up for yourself.

0:42:02.239 --> 0:42:04.000
<v Speaker 3>Yes, or I do grab my eggs and no one

0:42:04.040 --> 0:42:04.600
<v Speaker 3>will go near me.

0:42:05.480 --> 0:42:06.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's a good idea.

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<v Speaker 4>My love to your friend.

0:42:08.960 --> 0:42:10.600
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure you would. You guys have got along well.

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<v Speaker 4>Awesome, Thanks so much for colleague and Miranda to take care.

0:42:15.600 --> 0:42:16.360
<v Speaker 3>So yah bye.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I don't know why anyone golfs anyway. I find

0:42:20.160 --> 0:42:22.400
<v Speaker 2>golfing to be so boring.

0:42:23.440 --> 0:42:26.160
<v Speaker 5>It seems I can confirm it's very borings.

0:42:26.239 --> 0:42:27.120
<v Speaker 1>Oh right, exactly.

0:42:27.239 --> 0:42:29.000
<v Speaker 2>You know what I've been watching is that Full Swing

0:42:29.239 --> 0:42:30.560
<v Speaker 2>documentary docuseries.

0:42:30.600 --> 0:42:31.720
<v Speaker 1>Do you know about this on Netflix?

0:42:32.040 --> 0:42:32.200
<v Speaker 3>Oh?

0:42:32.400 --> 0:42:35.280
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's actually makes golf someone interesting.

0:42:35.640 --> 0:42:38.040
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I was gonna say the same thing because I

0:42:38.200 --> 0:42:40.000
<v Speaker 2>was like, oh, this is something I know nothing about.

0:42:40.120 --> 0:42:41.480
<v Speaker 1>Let me watch a couple of episodes.

0:42:41.520 --> 0:42:44.480
<v Speaker 2>And it's a lot about Jordan's speeth and they have

0:42:44.560 --> 0:42:46.440
<v Speaker 2>a couple of players that are like on the up

0:42:46.480 --> 0:42:46.759
<v Speaker 2>and up.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Jordan's great. I mean, I love Jordan. He's under

0:42:50.040 --> 0:42:52.040
<v Speaker 5>armor guy and I've known him for a long time.

0:42:52.760 --> 0:42:54.920
<v Speaker 5>There's some I mean, there's some good people, and I

0:42:55.000 --> 0:42:57.920
<v Speaker 5>think you just don't see their personalities when they're playing,

0:42:58.000 --> 0:43:01.400
<v Speaker 5>which is why I think others are more engaging. But

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<v Speaker 5>I think that this is showing actually a good side

0:43:04.480 --> 0:43:07.080
<v Speaker 5>of golf, So good on them. And also break Point.

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<v Speaker 5>I've you seen at the Tennis one Breakpoint.

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen a couple episodes of that. And then the

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<v Speaker 2>Formula one also, I haven't seen that yet because that's

0:43:14.239 --> 0:43:16.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm less interested in Formula one than I am in golf,

0:43:17.440 --> 0:43:19.840
<v Speaker 2>but I'm going to get to it because that's another

0:43:19.920 --> 0:43:22.200
<v Speaker 2>sport where I'm not paying attention and I don't know

0:43:22.280 --> 0:43:22.960
<v Speaker 2>what needs.

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<v Speaker 1>To be really good.

0:43:23.440 --> 0:43:26.520
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I thought you would love Formula One. It's like skiing.

0:43:26.640 --> 0:43:28.600
<v Speaker 5>It's speed, it's like adrenaline.

0:43:29.400 --> 0:43:31.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but there's a lot of mechanics.

0:43:31.400 --> 0:43:34.759
<v Speaker 2>It's very mechanical, actually not really well the way they

0:43:34.840 --> 0:43:36.480
<v Speaker 2>talk about cars and the pit.

0:43:36.840 --> 0:43:39.160
<v Speaker 1>I like the attitude and the strategy and the winning

0:43:39.239 --> 0:43:41.080
<v Speaker 1>championship vibe. I love that.

0:43:41.520 --> 0:43:41.680
<v Speaker 3>You know.

0:43:41.760 --> 0:43:45.600
<v Speaker 2>What is also great about full swing is it's great

0:43:45.680 --> 0:43:48.680
<v Speaker 2>to see the ebb and flow of a career because

0:43:48.719 --> 0:43:51.480
<v Speaker 2>you're never at your height all the time. There's highs

0:43:51.520 --> 0:43:54.480
<v Speaker 2>and there's lows, and it's always like the underdog that

0:43:54.600 --> 0:43:57.320
<v Speaker 2>comes in, you know, and wins when you least expect it.

0:43:57.840 --> 0:44:00.160
<v Speaker 2>And the people that have been revered or celebrate to

0:44:00.239 --> 0:44:03.640
<v Speaker 2>the most always end up not forever, but they always

0:44:03.719 --> 0:44:06.400
<v Speaker 2>dip and they have their troubles too, So it's never

0:44:06.640 --> 0:44:10.080
<v Speaker 2>like just some static road where it's just an assent,

0:44:10.320 --> 0:44:10.520
<v Speaker 2>you know.

0:44:10.560 --> 0:44:10.960
<v Speaker 1>What I mean.

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<v Speaker 5>It's honestly really cool because it's kind of like every

0:44:13.960 --> 0:44:17.560
<v Speaker 5>athlete has their own little mini documentary. And to your

0:44:17.640 --> 0:44:20.720
<v Speaker 5>point of ebbs and flows, no career in any sport,

0:44:20.800 --> 0:44:23.399
<v Speaker 5>I don't care who you are, is always at the top,

0:44:23.920 --> 0:44:27.359
<v Speaker 5>and I think it humanizes athletes and shows you how

0:44:27.560 --> 0:44:31.080
<v Speaker 5>hard it is to be consistently at the top. I

0:44:31.160 --> 0:44:34.520
<v Speaker 5>mean again, no one's at the top forever, but to

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<v Speaker 5>be able to come back every time you go down

0:44:38.120 --> 0:44:40.920
<v Speaker 5>is really hard. So I love these little shows. I

0:44:41.000 --> 0:44:44.279
<v Speaker 5>mean again, they're like mini documentaries for every athlete, and

0:44:44.360 --> 0:44:47.640
<v Speaker 5>that gives every athlete a lot more credit because honestly,

0:44:47.760 --> 0:44:50.600
<v Speaker 5>most people don't quite understand the difficulty.

0:44:51.280 --> 0:44:54.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's not you know, there's a lot of similarities.

0:44:54.560 --> 0:44:57.160
<v Speaker 2>You know, in my business, there are dips, and there

0:44:57.200 --> 0:44:59.640
<v Speaker 2>are valleys, and there are struggles, and it is exactly

0:44:59.680 --> 0:45:02.520
<v Speaker 2>how you behave in those moments that make you a champion.

0:45:02.840 --> 0:45:05.000
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's how you pick yourself back up and

0:45:05.120 --> 0:45:08.200
<v Speaker 2>how you succeed again after you've fallen or you've failed

0:45:08.320 --> 0:45:10.760
<v Speaker 2>or what you deem a failure or you have at placed.

0:45:11.120 --> 0:45:13.959
<v Speaker 2>It's very inspiring to watch these kinds of shows because

0:45:14.000 --> 0:45:16.799
<v Speaker 2>it's just it's really about it's a commentary on life

0:45:17.239 --> 0:45:19.920
<v Speaker 2>and you know, competitiveness, and I mean there aren't a

0:45:20.000 --> 0:45:22.320
<v Speaker 2>lot of industries or businesses that you don't have some

0:45:22.480 --> 0:45:24.239
<v Speaker 2>aspect of competitiveness in there.

0:45:24.680 --> 0:45:26.400
<v Speaker 5>Absolutely not. Until totally agree.

0:45:30.719 --> 0:45:36.320
<v Speaker 4>Well, our next question comes from Lana, and this is

0:45:36.320 --> 0:45:40.040
<v Speaker 4>a bit of a relationship beet question. I'm twenty four

0:45:40.120 --> 0:45:41.759
<v Speaker 4>and I've been with my boyfriend for three and a

0:45:41.800 --> 0:45:44.440
<v Speaker 4>half years. This summer, we'll be moving in together for

0:45:44.480 --> 0:45:46.800
<v Speaker 4>the first time in a new city with new jobs.

0:45:47.280 --> 0:45:49.080
<v Speaker 4>Within the next year or so, I expect to be

0:45:49.160 --> 0:45:52.160
<v Speaker 4>engaged to him. Our dynamic has always been the same.

0:45:52.560 --> 0:45:55.839
<v Speaker 4>I'm very affectionate, both physically and verbally. I've been told

0:45:55.880 --> 0:45:58.319
<v Speaker 4>it's like I don't leave the honeymoon phase, and he's

0:45:58.440 --> 0:46:02.160
<v Speaker 4>always kind, caring, supporting me emotionally, showing up for me,

0:46:02.440 --> 0:46:04.680
<v Speaker 4>helping me whenever I ask, and taking me out on

0:46:04.760 --> 0:46:07.879
<v Speaker 4>nice dates. He just doesn't express to me verbally how

0:46:07.960 --> 0:46:10.080
<v Speaker 4>he feels. He'll tell me he loves me when I

0:46:10.160 --> 0:46:12.960
<v Speaker 4>say goodbye or when I prompt it, but usually no

0:46:13.080 --> 0:46:16.520
<v Speaker 4>sweet words come unprompted. I'm not one hundred percent sure

0:46:16.560 --> 0:46:20.080
<v Speaker 4>what's triggering this now, but recently I've been feeling insecure

0:46:20.080 --> 0:46:22.040
<v Speaker 4>about how we display our love to each other and

0:46:22.120 --> 0:46:25.680
<v Speaker 4>how it feels disproportionate to me. The perfect partner would

0:46:25.680 --> 0:46:28.000
<v Speaker 4>be able to show their love through all love languages,

0:46:28.120 --> 0:46:32.240
<v Speaker 4>because they want to gift giving verbal affection, physical affection,

0:46:32.520 --> 0:46:35.120
<v Speaker 4>acts of service are all things I provide when I

0:46:35.239 --> 0:46:38.000
<v Speaker 4>truly and deeply love someone without having to think about it.

0:46:38.480 --> 0:46:41.799
<v Speaker 4>Is this an unrealistic view to expect the same. I've

0:46:41.840 --> 0:46:43.760
<v Speaker 4>talked to him about this, and he says my feelings

0:46:43.800 --> 0:46:46.480
<v Speaker 4>are valid, that he's always felt I have more affection

0:46:46.600 --> 0:46:49.399
<v Speaker 4>toward him than he has for me. This hurt to hear,

0:46:49.719 --> 0:46:51.640
<v Speaker 4>but he assures me that he loves me and is

0:46:51.719 --> 0:46:54.320
<v Speaker 4>in love with me. He just doesn't feel affection for

0:46:54.400 --> 0:46:56.960
<v Speaker 4>anyone as deeply as I do. He told me that

0:46:57.080 --> 0:46:59.239
<v Speaker 4>he used to feel very deeply growing up, but that

0:46:59.440 --> 0:47:02.320
<v Speaker 4>changed after going through painful heartbreaks and dealing with a

0:47:02.360 --> 0:47:05.000
<v Speaker 4>close loss as a young adult. Is it wrong for

0:47:05.120 --> 0:47:07.359
<v Speaker 4>me to find this out looks sad and to want

0:47:07.440 --> 0:47:10.040
<v Speaker 4>more from him in terms of verbal and physical affection,

0:47:10.280 --> 0:47:13.479
<v Speaker 4>even though he checks all the other boxes. I'm torn

0:47:13.560 --> 0:47:15.279
<v Speaker 4>because I know I can find many men who will

0:47:15.320 --> 0:47:17.719
<v Speaker 4>say sweet things to me, but they don't actually care.

0:47:18.360 --> 0:47:20.440
<v Speaker 4>Is it just an insecurity on my part, needing to

0:47:20.520 --> 0:47:22.960
<v Speaker 4>know how he truly feels because of the next steps

0:47:22.960 --> 0:47:28.000
<v Speaker 4>we'll be taking soon? Lana, Hi, Lada, Hi, Hi?

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<v Speaker 1>How are you? I'm doing you and you are twenty four?

0:47:31.760 --> 0:47:34.160
<v Speaker 1>You said, right, yes, I am okay?

0:47:34.239 --> 0:47:35.919
<v Speaker 2>So the only thing that struck me in your letter,

0:47:36.520 --> 0:47:39.040
<v Speaker 2>if you hadn't said this part, which was he used

0:47:39.080 --> 0:47:41.239
<v Speaker 2>to be affectionate with other people and then he got

0:47:41.280 --> 0:47:43.920
<v Speaker 2>his heart broken, which is the reason he's giving you

0:47:44.080 --> 0:47:45.400
<v Speaker 2>for not having as much.

0:47:45.280 --> 0:47:46.000
<v Speaker 1>Affection as you.

0:47:46.800 --> 0:47:49.759
<v Speaker 2>Is kind of like, oh, so he has the capability,

0:47:49.800 --> 0:47:52.120
<v Speaker 2>but he's chosen to shut down rather than open up.

0:47:52.840 --> 0:47:55.200
<v Speaker 2>So that doesn't make a lot of sense, because if

0:47:55.200 --> 0:47:56.759
<v Speaker 2>he really felt like you were the one and you

0:47:56.800 --> 0:47:58.800
<v Speaker 2>guys are supposed to be together, I would imagine that

0:47:58.880 --> 0:48:01.200
<v Speaker 2>that would be brushed open. And again, you don't really

0:48:01.280 --> 0:48:03.480
<v Speaker 2>we don't really have control over who we fall over.

0:48:04.120 --> 0:48:07.040
<v Speaker 2>That aside, it does sound like you're expecting from him

0:48:07.160 --> 0:48:09.759
<v Speaker 2>what you're giving out, and that's not a fair thing

0:48:09.840 --> 0:48:10.920
<v Speaker 2>to do in a relationship.

0:48:11.280 --> 0:48:12.600
<v Speaker 1>You can't expect the.

0:48:12.680 --> 0:48:14.840
<v Speaker 2>Partner to give you what you want to give, or

0:48:14.880 --> 0:48:16.359
<v Speaker 2>that your partner is going to be great at all.

0:48:16.400 --> 0:48:18.600
<v Speaker 2>Four love languages, like, that's just not realistic.

0:48:19.120 --> 0:48:20.040
<v Speaker 1>Actually, if I.

0:48:20.040 --> 0:48:23.839
<v Speaker 4>Can interject, there are five love languages, and the one

0:48:23.920 --> 0:48:27.239
<v Speaker 4>that you left out, Lana was quality time, which is

0:48:27.320 --> 0:48:29.200
<v Speaker 4>the thing that he is really giving you, and that

0:48:29.480 --> 0:48:33.080
<v Speaker 4>may be the way he expresses his love languages. Started interrupt.

0:48:33.120 --> 0:48:34.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I'm glad you did.

0:48:34.440 --> 0:48:36.479
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I had no idea that we're five because

0:48:36.480 --> 0:48:38.640
<v Speaker 2>I haven't read that fucking book. I've only heard about

0:48:38.680 --> 0:48:41.120
<v Speaker 2>it NonStop for the last ten years.

0:48:41.320 --> 0:48:43.480
<v Speaker 4>That's the thing is, I think everybody hears like the

0:48:43.600 --> 0:48:44.920
<v Speaker 4>Instagram snippets of it.

0:48:45.080 --> 0:48:47.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I'm figuring of the four agreements, that's what they're giving. Okay,

0:48:48.400 --> 0:48:48.680
<v Speaker 1>got it.

0:48:49.800 --> 0:48:51.960
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, you know, the thing about the love languages

0:48:52.280 --> 0:48:56.160
<v Speaker 4>is it's about finding out what each person's actually is

0:48:56.680 --> 0:48:59.839
<v Speaker 4>and expressing love to them through that, Like maybe yours

0:49:00.080 --> 0:49:03.279
<v Speaker 4>is more heavily these verbal, little sweet things that he

0:49:03.440 --> 0:49:06.640
<v Speaker 4>might say, and his maybe quality time, so it's just

0:49:06.760 --> 0:49:10.560
<v Speaker 4>a mismatch, and figuring out how to encourage him to

0:49:10.640 --> 0:49:12.359
<v Speaker 4>give you what you need and you to give him

0:49:12.760 --> 0:49:13.359
<v Speaker 4>what he needs.

0:49:13.800 --> 0:49:17.360
<v Speaker 6>Okay, is it wrong to like specifically ask for that?

0:49:17.600 --> 0:49:20.000
<v Speaker 6>Like That's what I've been doing in the past few weeks,

0:49:20.040 --> 0:49:22.560
<v Speaker 6>Because I wrote in this email after we had like

0:49:22.640 --> 0:49:25.520
<v Speaker 6>a little bit of not an argument but a discussion.

0:49:25.880 --> 0:49:27.839
<v Speaker 6>I mean I kind of circled back to him later

0:49:27.960 --> 0:49:31.759
<v Speaker 6>after I kind of decompressed, and I was kind of saying, like,

0:49:32.080 --> 0:49:35.720
<v Speaker 6>growing up, I didn't get verbal affection or physical affection

0:49:36.000 --> 0:49:39.560
<v Speaker 6>for my parents, and just thinking about living my whole life.

0:49:39.800 --> 0:49:44.600
<v Speaker 6>Not getting that is like really sad, so I I've

0:49:44.640 --> 0:49:47.239
<v Speaker 6>been just asking for it, like, hey, like, when you're done,

0:49:47.360 --> 0:49:50.160
<v Speaker 6>can you come here and like give me a cuddle

0:49:50.480 --> 0:49:52.560
<v Speaker 6>or something cuddle me. I don't know if that's not

0:49:52.840 --> 0:49:55.280
<v Speaker 6>romantic or if that's like being needy.

0:49:56.080 --> 0:49:59.040
<v Speaker 4>It's communicating what you need from your partner, and I

0:49:59.120 --> 0:50:01.279
<v Speaker 4>think that's great, and what if he's not able to

0:50:01.320 --> 0:50:02.040
<v Speaker 4>deliver it though?

0:50:02.719 --> 0:50:05.799
<v Speaker 6>Right And there have been times recently where he has

0:50:05.920 --> 0:50:08.600
<v Speaker 6>been so stressed out with being on the job market

0:50:08.600 --> 0:50:11.439
<v Speaker 6>and everything where he has been like, I'm not really

0:50:11.480 --> 0:50:13.799
<v Speaker 6>in the mood to be really affectionate right now. I'll

0:50:13.840 --> 0:50:16.279
<v Speaker 6>spend time with you and we'll have dinner together, but

0:50:16.880 --> 0:50:18.640
<v Speaker 6>I'm not going to be as loving as you want

0:50:18.680 --> 0:50:21.359
<v Speaker 6>me to be right now. And I think as long

0:50:21.400 --> 0:50:24.080
<v Speaker 6>as that's communicated, I'm okay with that. But it is

0:50:24.200 --> 0:50:26.520
<v Speaker 6>still kind of hard to be like, well, what if

0:50:27.120 --> 0:50:29.000
<v Speaker 6>what if there is a perfect person where he would

0:50:29.040 --> 0:50:31.160
<v Speaker 6>act this way towards Well.

0:50:31.080 --> 0:50:34.040
<v Speaker 5>First of all, there's no perfect person, Like there's no

0:50:34.640 --> 0:50:36.960
<v Speaker 5>one that's going to do all the love languages, and

0:50:37.080 --> 0:50:40.200
<v Speaker 5>that's perfect. But at the same time, if you're communicating

0:50:40.280 --> 0:50:42.600
<v Speaker 5>what you need to him and he's not able to

0:50:42.719 --> 0:50:45.960
<v Speaker 5>give that to you. You're young. You can't spend the

0:50:46.000 --> 0:50:49.160
<v Speaker 5>rest of your life feeling like you need something else.

0:50:49.760 --> 0:50:52.799
<v Speaker 5>So I think if there's that hole, and I felt

0:50:52.880 --> 0:50:56.080
<v Speaker 5>it before myself, if you're not if you have needs

0:50:56.120 --> 0:50:59.000
<v Speaker 5>that aren't being met and that's just the character of

0:50:59.120 --> 0:51:01.800
<v Speaker 5>the person that you're with, then it's just a mismatch,

0:51:02.120 --> 0:51:05.000
<v Speaker 5>you know. And again, you're really young. It's fine to

0:51:05.800 --> 0:51:08.800
<v Speaker 5>move on and start over. But if you live a

0:51:08.920 --> 0:51:10.840
<v Speaker 5>hole and it's not being filled, that's never going to

0:51:10.880 --> 0:51:13.520
<v Speaker 5>get filled. You're never going to change someone. If they

0:51:13.680 --> 0:51:17.319
<v Speaker 5>can't do what you're needing them to do, then it's

0:51:17.440 --> 0:51:18.239
<v Speaker 5>just not going to work.

0:51:18.800 --> 0:51:21.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like I want to say, I am a little

0:51:21.840 --> 0:51:25.359
<v Speaker 2>bit like I think your boyfriend and I have been

0:51:25.400 --> 0:51:27.840
<v Speaker 2>in relationships with people who have been very needy of

0:51:27.920 --> 0:51:31.759
<v Speaker 2>affection and time and like lots of cuddling and.

0:51:31.840 --> 0:51:34.600
<v Speaker 1>Kissing, and I can give only so much.

0:51:34.880 --> 0:51:37.239
<v Speaker 2>Like it's not a reflection of how I feel about them,

0:51:37.680 --> 0:51:40.719
<v Speaker 2>it's a reflection of like, I'm very comfortable in my

0:51:40.840 --> 0:51:43.480
<v Speaker 2>own space and in my own skin, and when I'm

0:51:43.560 --> 0:51:45.360
<v Speaker 2>needed like that, you know, if I wanted to be

0:51:45.440 --> 0:51:48.160
<v Speaker 2>needed like that, I would have become a mother, Like,

0:51:48.280 --> 0:51:51.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't like when I feel needed, so I can

0:51:51.239 --> 0:51:53.440
<v Speaker 2>kind of relate to you know, it's just a different

0:51:53.560 --> 0:51:56.759
<v Speaker 2>set of importance around you, like what I value. I

0:51:56.800 --> 0:51:58.520
<v Speaker 2>also don't like gifts, like I don't care if I

0:51:58.560 --> 0:52:00.600
<v Speaker 2>ever get a gift in the world. Ya, it doesn't

0:52:00.640 --> 0:52:03.240
<v Speaker 2>matter to me. Those things don't matter. So I'm about

0:52:03.320 --> 0:52:05.520
<v Speaker 2>like I like time spent. That's how I spend time

0:52:05.560 --> 0:52:08.200
<v Speaker 2>with my friends, my family, everyone I love. Is about

0:52:08.280 --> 0:52:11.640
<v Speaker 2>quality time. So I think, you know, there's two sides

0:52:11.680 --> 0:52:14.040
<v Speaker 2>of this argument. I think you are really young and

0:52:14.640 --> 0:52:17.480
<v Speaker 2>twenty four years old. I really think you probably are

0:52:17.520 --> 0:52:19.719
<v Speaker 2>going to want some more experiences in your life, like

0:52:20.040 --> 0:52:22.160
<v Speaker 2>as you I know that's probably not how you're feeling

0:52:22.239 --> 0:52:24.319
<v Speaker 2>right now, but it's really the truth of the matter.

0:52:24.440 --> 0:52:26.919
<v Speaker 2>From three women who are older than you, You're gonna

0:52:26.960 --> 0:52:29.640
<v Speaker 2>want a little bit more experience. It's like she's not

0:52:29.680 --> 0:52:31.120
<v Speaker 2>getting what she needs, so she has to ask what

0:52:31.239 --> 0:52:33.200
<v Speaker 2>she needs. Also, you have to respect that this person

0:52:33.320 --> 0:52:35.520
<v Speaker 2>isn't built like you. You don't have the same brain,

0:52:35.880 --> 0:52:37.880
<v Speaker 2>you don't have the same likes, dislikes, all of that.

0:52:38.440 --> 0:52:40.400
<v Speaker 2>So I think it's somewhere in the middle. You know,

0:52:40.520 --> 0:52:42.879
<v Speaker 2>you have to kind of figure out, like what's make

0:52:42.960 --> 0:52:44.880
<v Speaker 2>or break? How often do you need a hug? And

0:52:44.960 --> 0:52:47.480
<v Speaker 2>if you do really need that all the time, then

0:52:47.520 --> 0:52:49.120
<v Speaker 2>you should find someone who's going to give it to you.

0:52:50.200 --> 0:52:52.320
<v Speaker 6>Right, And back to the point where I said, he

0:52:52.520 --> 0:52:54.920
<v Speaker 6>was saying that he used to be like really loving

0:52:55.120 --> 0:52:59.320
<v Speaker 6>in relationships. That was also back in high school. So

0:52:59.400 --> 0:53:01.720
<v Speaker 6>I don't know if that's like a fair comparison because

0:53:01.719 --> 0:53:03.680
<v Speaker 6>he was saying, Oh, I was getting all this advice

0:53:03.840 --> 0:53:07.520
<v Speaker 6>from girls to text my girlfriend I love you every

0:53:07.600 --> 0:53:11.839
<v Speaker 6>day and good night gorgeous, and he obviously figured out

0:53:11.840 --> 0:53:13.560
<v Speaker 6>that's not what you're supposed to do. So I don't

0:53:13.640 --> 0:53:16.560
<v Speaker 6>know if it's really like trauma why he's closed off,

0:53:16.680 --> 0:53:20.319
<v Speaker 6>or it's just him growing up. But I do think

0:53:20.840 --> 0:53:23.840
<v Speaker 6>it would be good for him to kind of go

0:53:24.000 --> 0:53:27.360
<v Speaker 6>to a therapist and explore that, because I don't know

0:53:27.400 --> 0:53:28.680
<v Speaker 6>if he's really explored that.

0:53:29.200 --> 0:53:30.960
<v Speaker 4>She meant that he also had a loss of someone

0:53:31.040 --> 0:53:32.160
<v Speaker 4>close to him as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean that could be it. I mean, but

0:53:35.440 --> 0:53:36.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, is he going to go to therapy? Is

0:53:36.880 --> 0:53:38.560
<v Speaker 1>he open to that? Like, have you discussed that?

0:53:39.360 --> 0:53:44.320
<v Speaker 6>I have discussed that he thinks that he is generally okay,

0:53:44.640 --> 0:53:47.120
<v Speaker 6>and he's like the strong one for all the other

0:53:47.200 --> 0:53:49.640
<v Speaker 6>people in his life, and that he would be open

0:53:49.719 --> 0:53:52.800
<v Speaker 6>to therapy if something bad happened or something traumatic happened.

0:53:53.239 --> 0:53:56.120
<v Speaker 6>But I'm of the belief that anyone could use therapy

0:53:56.239 --> 0:53:58.960
<v Speaker 6>y at all times. So I don't know if you

0:53:59.040 --> 0:54:02.040
<v Speaker 6>can really convince someone of going to therapy without them

0:54:02.160 --> 0:54:03.000
<v Speaker 6>feeling they need.

0:54:02.960 --> 0:54:05.759
<v Speaker 2>To No, and there's no point, like, there's no point

0:54:05.800 --> 0:54:07.520
<v Speaker 2>in forcing somebody to go to therapy. It has to

0:54:07.560 --> 0:54:09.520
<v Speaker 2>be their idea, otherwise they're not going to absorb anything

0:54:09.560 --> 0:54:10.279
<v Speaker 2>that they're going there for.

0:54:11.320 --> 0:54:11.480
<v Speaker 3>Right.

0:54:11.719 --> 0:54:14.400
<v Speaker 6>I almost thought about, you know, now that we're getting

0:54:14.440 --> 0:54:16.880
<v Speaker 6>super serious, I am going to be moving to a

0:54:16.920 --> 0:54:19.520
<v Speaker 6>whole different state with him. We've been together for four

0:54:19.640 --> 0:54:22.960
<v Speaker 6>years and so now it's like finally becoming real, Like I,

0:54:23.480 --> 0:54:25.480
<v Speaker 6>if I do this move with him, next step in

0:54:25.600 --> 0:54:29.600
<v Speaker 6>a few years is maybe getting engaged. And I was thinking, well,

0:54:29.680 --> 0:54:32.600
<v Speaker 6>maybe I should say, like, if I'm going to get

0:54:32.680 --> 0:54:34.840
<v Speaker 6>married to you, I want you to be open to therapy.

0:54:35.040 --> 0:54:37.400
<v Speaker 6>But I don't know if that's a fair ultimatum.

0:54:37.719 --> 0:54:39.520
<v Speaker 2>I think that's fair. I mean, we live in twenty

0:54:39.600 --> 0:54:41.880
<v Speaker 2>twenty three or sometimes twenty twenty four, you know.

0:54:42.640 --> 0:54:43.600
<v Speaker 1>Have you tried golfing.

0:54:45.080 --> 0:54:46.719
<v Speaker 6>He actually used to be on the golf team.

0:54:47.120 --> 0:54:49.080
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, well he's tried it. We just had a

0:54:49.120 --> 0:54:52.680
<v Speaker 2>golfer Collein. So there's some similarities here. Well not very

0:54:52.760 --> 0:54:55.120
<v Speaker 2>many actually, but I just thought golfing was something that

0:54:55.200 --> 0:54:57.279
<v Speaker 2>I should bring up again as far as.

0:54:57.200 --> 0:54:57.879
<v Speaker 1>The therapy goes.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe it's you two going together. Maybe there's something there.

0:55:01.600 --> 0:55:03.080
<v Speaker 4>Maybe it's not just like you have to go.

0:55:03.520 --> 0:55:05.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's good to get a third person involved in

0:55:05.400 --> 0:55:07.319
<v Speaker 2>this because I don't want to qualify you as needy

0:55:07.400 --> 0:55:09.440
<v Speaker 2>because you're saying what you want, which is good, but

0:55:09.640 --> 0:55:12.359
<v Speaker 2>you might be coming across as needy and that might

0:55:12.400 --> 0:55:14.320
<v Speaker 2>be rubbing him the wrong way and then you're creating

0:55:14.480 --> 0:55:15.200
<v Speaker 2>like a chasm.

0:55:15.600 --> 0:55:16.480
<v Speaker 1>So it's like if he.

0:55:16.480 --> 0:55:18.560
<v Speaker 2>Could modify his behavior a little bit and you could

0:55:18.600 --> 0:55:21.040
<v Speaker 2>modify yours and meet in the middle, which would be

0:55:21.160 --> 0:55:24.040
<v Speaker 2>like what would happen in therapy ideally is somebody saying, Okay,

0:55:24.120 --> 0:55:26.320
<v Speaker 2>this is you got to compromise. Then I feel like

0:55:26.400 --> 0:55:29.960
<v Speaker 2>you would have more of a like workable dynamic instead

0:55:30.000 --> 0:55:32.960
<v Speaker 2>of you feeling ignored or slighted.

0:55:33.160 --> 0:55:33.320
<v Speaker 5>You know.

0:55:33.920 --> 0:55:35.840
<v Speaker 2>I feel like that might be a good option for

0:55:35.960 --> 0:55:38.759
<v Speaker 2>you to bring up. Yeah, especially since you're moving. That's

0:55:38.800 --> 0:55:41.520
<v Speaker 2>a perfect excuse. We're moving to a new state. We've

0:55:41.560 --> 0:55:43.680
<v Speaker 2>never lived here before. There's gonna be lots of pressure,

0:55:43.719 --> 0:55:46.560
<v Speaker 2>there's gonna be lots of opportunity. I want to stay grounded,

0:55:46.800 --> 0:55:48.520
<v Speaker 2>and I would love to have like a wad for

0:55:48.680 --> 0:55:51.600
<v Speaker 2>us to just make sure we're always ahead of our problems.

0:55:52.000 --> 0:55:54.120
<v Speaker 2>You know, therapy is great when you're going through something,

0:55:54.160 --> 0:55:55.200
<v Speaker 2>but it's even better when.

0:55:55.080 --> 0:55:56.680
<v Speaker 1>You have the tools before you go through that.

0:55:57.080 --> 0:55:59.560
<v Speaker 2>So hang your hat on that and make it couch

0:55:59.640 --> 0:56:01.640
<v Speaker 2>it in that, and then when you get in there

0:56:01.760 --> 0:56:03.000
<v Speaker 2>you can get into these issues.

0:56:03.600 --> 0:56:05.840
<v Speaker 5>That's actually really you're so smart, Chelsea.

0:56:06.239 --> 0:56:08.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think so too. Right in this moment, I

0:56:08.239 --> 0:56:09.800
<v Speaker 2>was like, Wow, why didn't you think of that earlier?

0:56:09.840 --> 0:56:11.880
<v Speaker 1>Brilliant O. Great problem solved.

0:56:12.320 --> 0:56:15.839
<v Speaker 4>Awesome. Well, Lana, let us know how it goes. Let

0:56:15.920 --> 0:56:17.200
<v Speaker 4>us know how the move goes as well.

0:56:17.960 --> 0:56:20.759
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, we'll do. I really like your idea, Chelsea, because

0:56:20.800 --> 0:56:23.160
<v Speaker 6>we're also going to be living together for the first time,

0:56:23.360 --> 0:56:25.479
<v Speaker 6>so that's also ourwines.

0:56:25.840 --> 0:56:26.040
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:56:26.280 --> 0:56:28.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, you don't want to screw this up. You

0:56:28.480 --> 0:56:31.360
<v Speaker 1>want to succeed. Blah blah blah blah. Let's go to therapy.

0:56:32.200 --> 0:56:32.960
<v Speaker 6>Right, for sure.

0:56:33.120 --> 0:56:33.960
<v Speaker 3>I like that idea.

0:56:34.160 --> 0:56:35.560
<v Speaker 5>Well, thanks so much for your suggestion.

0:56:36.000 --> 0:56:38.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, absolutely awesome.

0:56:38.920 --> 0:56:40.080
<v Speaker 5>Well you know how it goes.

0:56:40.320 --> 0:56:45.160
<v Speaker 1>Okay, take Carolta, good luck, she's a baby.

0:56:46.080 --> 0:56:48.160
<v Speaker 2>I know I wanted to go break up with him, like, fucking,

0:56:48.200 --> 0:56:50.360
<v Speaker 2>it's your twenty four you need to find a new boyfriend.

0:56:50.640 --> 0:56:52.879
<v Speaker 4>I want to be like we all felt so needy

0:56:52.920 --> 0:56:53.920
<v Speaker 4>at twenty four, like.

0:56:54.080 --> 0:56:56.440
<v Speaker 5>Mabe, I know, I know IM married at twenty two.

0:56:57.239 --> 0:56:58.960
<v Speaker 1>Shit, I always forget you were married.

0:56:59.080 --> 0:57:01.480
<v Speaker 5>It's so weird, you know, we don't even talk about it.

0:57:01.600 --> 0:57:04.920
<v Speaker 5>But yeah, I always want to say whenever anyone in

0:57:05.040 --> 0:57:07.200
<v Speaker 5>their twenties ask me for advice, I'm like, whatever, you

0:57:07.480 --> 0:57:09.000
<v Speaker 5>just don't get married, don't.

0:57:09.160 --> 0:57:11.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly, I mean twenty four years so needy. I

0:57:12.000 --> 0:57:14.000
<v Speaker 2>used to I had a boyfriend. I remember who I

0:57:14.080 --> 0:57:15.800
<v Speaker 2>was talking to over this weekend, actually because he was

0:57:15.840 --> 0:57:17.520
<v Speaker 2>texting me, and I used to beg him like I

0:57:17.560 --> 0:57:19.120
<v Speaker 2>would be like I wanted to sleep at his house

0:57:19.120 --> 0:57:20.520
<v Speaker 2>every night. He lived up the street from me in

0:57:20.560 --> 0:57:23.000
<v Speaker 2>Santa Monica, and I would go over there every night.

0:57:23.200 --> 0:57:25.240
<v Speaker 2>And I remember once he was like, hey, do you

0:57:25.320 --> 0:57:27.600
<v Speaker 2>have to sleep over every single night? And I was

0:57:27.680 --> 0:57:29.840
<v Speaker 2>like yeah, I'm your girlfriend obviously.

0:57:30.240 --> 0:57:30.400
<v Speaker 5>You know.

0:57:30.560 --> 0:57:32.160
<v Speaker 1>Now as I'm sitting here.

0:57:32.160 --> 0:57:34.640
<v Speaker 2>As a forty eight year old woman, I'm like, oh,

0:57:35.120 --> 0:57:38.200
<v Speaker 2>how annoying you know to not be able to.

0:57:38.200 --> 0:57:40.080
<v Speaker 1>Go, Oh, sure you need space, let me.

0:57:40.280 --> 0:57:42.080
<v Speaker 2>I won't sleep over a few nights a week that

0:57:42.240 --> 0:57:44.200
<v Speaker 2>if you know, when somebody asks you for space, you

0:57:44.360 --> 0:57:46.840
<v Speaker 2>have to fucking respect that and give them double like

0:57:47.440 --> 0:57:50.520
<v Speaker 2>let them have their space. So yeah, I think there's

0:57:50.560 --> 0:57:52.880
<v Speaker 2>a there's a neediness that comes in your twenties. You

0:57:53.040 --> 0:57:55.360
<v Speaker 2>really want this fairy tale that you think is going

0:57:55.440 --> 0:57:55.760
<v Speaker 2>to happen.

0:57:55.880 --> 0:57:56.880
<v Speaker 5>There is no fairy tale.

0:57:57.120 --> 0:57:59.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like going to the Eiffel Tower.

0:57:59.160 --> 0:58:01.000
<v Speaker 2>I went with my boyfriend and when I was twenty

0:58:01.040 --> 0:58:03.560
<v Speaker 2>one to Paris, and I just had this vision of

0:58:03.680 --> 0:58:05.720
<v Speaker 2>like what our trip was going to be like. And

0:58:05.800 --> 0:58:09.040
<v Speaker 2>he was British and I was still American and I

0:58:09.160 --> 0:58:11.360
<v Speaker 2>was twenty one and he was thirty four. And we

0:58:11.480 --> 0:58:13.600
<v Speaker 2>went to London and we stayed in a hotel room

0:58:13.640 --> 0:58:17.040
<v Speaker 2>and the bathroom was inside the bedroom. There was no

0:58:17.160 --> 0:58:18.000
<v Speaker 2>separate bathroom.

0:58:18.280 --> 0:58:22.680
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, this is not how I yeah. Yeah,

0:58:23.760 --> 0:58:26.680
<v Speaker 1>we didn't speak the entire trip to Paris.

0:58:26.800 --> 0:58:28.640
<v Speaker 2>There were pictures of me alone at the Eiffel Tower

0:58:28.720 --> 0:58:30.640
<v Speaker 2>and him alone at the Eiffel Tower and the Louver

0:58:31.000 --> 0:58:33.320
<v Speaker 2>and every other thing that you saw, and the Champs

0:58:33.320 --> 0:58:36.200
<v Speaker 2>de Les because Princess di had just died there, and

0:58:36.280 --> 0:58:39.680
<v Speaker 2>the Plaza Athonite just us not speaking because I was

0:58:39.920 --> 0:58:43.720
<v Speaker 2>so disappointed in this fantasy that I had created in

0:58:43.840 --> 0:58:46.200
<v Speaker 2>my mind that had never shown proof of life.

0:58:46.680 --> 0:58:49.600
<v Speaker 5>You know what I mean, It's just proof of life.

0:58:49.760 --> 0:58:52.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's no I mean, we just were not as fantastical.

0:58:52.680 --> 0:58:53.760
<v Speaker 2>When we're older, we get it.

0:58:54.360 --> 0:58:55.960
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, just more real.

0:58:56.360 --> 0:58:57.600
<v Speaker 4>We've been disappointed enough.

0:58:58.040 --> 0:58:59.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, exactly.

0:59:00.200 --> 0:59:02.400
<v Speaker 1>A quick break and we'll be back to wrap.

0:59:07.080 --> 0:59:09.840
<v Speaker 2>And we're back with Lindsay, Vaughn and Catherine to wrap

0:59:09.960 --> 0:59:14.320
<v Speaker 2>up today's episode, which was good. This was a great episode. Yeah,

0:59:15.200 --> 0:59:17.680
<v Speaker 2>you gave good advice, Lindsay gave good advice. Lindsay, you

0:59:17.760 --> 0:59:20.640
<v Speaker 2>look fucking beautiful, by the way, ridiculous. I was just

0:59:20.720 --> 0:59:25.560
<v Speaker 2>sitting there looking at you, going, wow, you're looking real gooding.

0:59:25.960 --> 0:59:30.280
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, this, this lovely hotel is really making me

0:59:30.400 --> 0:59:31.040
<v Speaker 5>glow over here.

0:59:31.080 --> 0:59:35.360
<v Speaker 2>All Orlando hotels are beautiful, so pretty well, Lindsay, is

0:59:35.400 --> 0:59:37.120
<v Speaker 2>there any advice you'd like from Chelsea?

0:59:37.360 --> 0:59:37.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:59:37.560 --> 0:59:40.680
<v Speaker 1>Do you want any skiing advice for me, lindsay, yes,

0:59:40.880 --> 0:59:41.600
<v Speaker 1>how do you ski?

0:59:41.800 --> 0:59:45.200
<v Speaker 5>So damn well? Chelsea? In your bikini? I've always wanted,

0:59:46.160 --> 0:59:48.640
<v Speaker 5>how do you like not freeze your tits off?

0:59:48.800 --> 0:59:48.840
<v Speaker 3>Like?

0:59:48.960 --> 0:59:51.560
<v Speaker 5>That's what I want to know, because I can't even

0:59:51.640 --> 0:59:55.320
<v Speaker 5>handle being in my ski clothes, let alone like basically naked.

0:59:55.680 --> 0:59:58.080
<v Speaker 5>But that's not my question. That was just something I'm

0:59:58.160 --> 1:00:01.600
<v Speaker 5>curious about. But my actual ques es is how do

1:00:01.600 --> 1:00:04.640
<v Speaker 5>you Cause you love skiing and obviously I love skiing,

1:00:04.960 --> 1:00:08.400
<v Speaker 5>but you work so hard? How do you manage both things?

1:00:08.480 --> 1:00:10.920
<v Speaker 5>Like how do you manage getting time to do what

1:00:11.000 --> 1:00:13.440
<v Speaker 5>you love? And how do you manage being a boss?

1:00:14.080 --> 1:00:16.000
<v Speaker 2>I just I'm like, listen, if I don't get to

1:00:16.080 --> 1:00:19.120
<v Speaker 2>ski for a good solid two months a year, then

1:00:19.240 --> 1:00:21.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm not worth anything the rest of the year. So

1:00:21.200 --> 1:00:23.920
<v Speaker 2>I will work all summer long, I'll tour and I'll

1:00:24.000 --> 1:00:26.520
<v Speaker 2>do that stuff, and then I have to have my

1:00:26.640 --> 1:00:29.280
<v Speaker 2>time to ski because it's just so important for me.

1:00:29.440 --> 1:00:32.640
<v Speaker 2>It's my only real passion besides what I do and

1:00:32.760 --> 1:00:35.520
<v Speaker 2>reading books and stuff like, I love skiing. You know,

1:00:35.600 --> 1:00:37.160
<v Speaker 2>the way you talk about it is the way I

1:00:37.240 --> 1:00:39.080
<v Speaker 2>feel about it. I always want to be on the mountain.

1:00:39.200 --> 1:00:41.200
<v Speaker 2>I always want to get up, and I mean, my

1:00:41.280 --> 1:00:43.640
<v Speaker 2>friends call it like they're just like, you're so ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I'm outside my door waiting for them to come

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<v Speaker 2>get me before we go to the and I've got

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<v Speaker 2>my outfit on, like I've got everything ready, my gloves,

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<v Speaker 2>my skis, and my phone, and I'm just sitting there

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<v Speaker 2>waiting at the ski lift. Like at the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we walk to the little run and I'm just like

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<v Speaker 2>an eager beaver, and they're like, you're just so excited.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, yeah, I like to go out.

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<v Speaker 2>At eight thirty and get like three or four runs

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<v Speaker 2>before anyone else comes out, and then I like to

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<v Speaker 2>ski with my friends. But I feel like we talked

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<v Speaker 2>about this earlier or the other episode, you know. I

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<v Speaker 2>think for when you're in the public eye and the

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<v Speaker 2>way that we both are, there's so much attention on you,

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<v Speaker 2>and your life is so much about you, and you're

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<v Speaker 2>so self involved that it's so necessary to actually have

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<v Speaker 2>other interests that don't require it being about you. So

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<v Speaker 2>for you, it would probably be something other than skiing

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<v Speaker 2>to do that doesn't remind you of the main.

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<v Speaker 1>Event in your life.

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<v Speaker 2>And I always make sure that I take myself out

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<v Speaker 2>of my comfort zone, and I'm trying different things so

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<v Speaker 2>that I remain normal, like a human being that's constantly

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<v Speaker 2>growing and evolving and not just spinning around in this

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<v Speaker 2>little hubris that is our lives.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, okay, that's a good point. I mean, I played tennis.

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<v Speaker 5>I love tennis.

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<v Speaker 1>What about golf?

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<v Speaker 2>Have you thought about golfing? I think you should take

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<v Speaker 2>up golf. That feels like the missing hole.

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<v Speaker 1>So many puns in that, so many, so many puns.

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<v Speaker 5>How do you also manage to change the subjects? How

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<v Speaker 5>do you also manage being away from your dogs?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean that's just out of good parenting.

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<v Speaker 2>It's better that they're not with me in Whistler because

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<v Speaker 2>they like to be at home in LA where they

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<v Speaker 2>can go in and out of the house. They just

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<v Speaker 2>prefer that, and I took them to Whistler and they're

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<v Speaker 2>just too old for that. So the next round of

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<v Speaker 2>dogs I get, I will make sure they're younger and

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<v Speaker 2>they're more adept, and then I will bring them to Whistler.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm just trying not to torture them because last

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<v Speaker 2>time I brought them they were like, what is snow?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty sure they're from Mexico, because everything is pointing

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<v Speaker 2>to that. They only understand my bell and they like hot,

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<v Speaker 2>warm weather, so I think that they're Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 2>they're from South.

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<v Speaker 4>America and one of these mountain dogs that like just

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<v Speaker 4>wants to live in the snow. Maybe it needs like I.

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<v Speaker 2>Need a part time dog for the winter, and then

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<v Speaker 2>I need a dog for summer. That's what I need

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<v Speaker 2>to do to split my time up. Thank you Lindsey

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<v Speaker 2>for taking the time to do this. I really appreciate it,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know I love you and I hope you

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<v Speaker 2>have a great rest of your day in Orlando. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's going to really be falls to the wall.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, well, maybe I hit of Disneyland while I'm

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<v Speaker 5>at it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, nothing better than an adults going to Disneyland with

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<v Speaker 2>no children exactly.

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<v Speaker 5>Not creepy at all. Well, thank you, I love you,

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<v Speaker 5>and I appreciate you having me on.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, thank you so much.

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