Speaker 1: Oh, hello, good afternoon.
Speaker 2: Buenos tardes, I mean buenos I don't even know what
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 1: I'm so sick of my bell correcting me in my
Speaker 1: fucking Spanish.
Speaker 2: I mean, like, she corrects everything I say, but she's
Speaker 2: not correcting me to speak proper Spanish. She speaks slang
Speaker 2: Spanish admittingly. She says to me, well, this is how
Speaker 2: we speak in Mexico. And I'm like, great, but I'm
Speaker 2: trying to learn Spanish for Spain and true. And I
Speaker 2: also don't want to point out that I don't ever
Speaker 2: correct her fucking English, never and never say oh no
Speaker 2: that words, those words go in the opposite direction or anything.
Speaker 2: But she is riding me like a wave. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 2: we will get off my jock. I'm like, do you
Speaker 2: want me to learn Spanish? Or don't you if you keep.
Speaker 1: Putting up these barriers? Uh?
Speaker 2: And she just loves it, though, But I gotta give
Speaker 2: it to her, like I know that that must be
Speaker 2: satisfying for her to be able to correct me all
Speaker 2: the time, tell me what to do. And you asked
Speaker 2: her to it, Well, yeah, I said I wanted to
Speaker 2: speak Spanish.
Speaker 1: You could let me slide a little bit with my grammar.
Speaker 2: But you know what I love. I'm such a grammarian.
Speaker 2: I care so much about grammar that I really want.
Speaker 2: I want to speak proper Spanish anyway, It's just it's
Speaker 2: too much of a beginner's Spanish to be there yet.
Speaker 1: Yea, what have I learned this week? I learned about
Speaker 1: Cuba and sugar.
Speaker 2: Oh, tell me about well, you know, after this, I
Speaker 2: learned all about Spain.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 2: I have to promote a show April twenty. It's Spokane.
Speaker 2: That's the second show we added in Spokane. It's not
Speaker 2: quite sold out, so please buy your tickets, you motherfuckers.
Speaker 2: And what other shows do I need to promote? Well,
Speaker 2: they're all really almost sold out. Red Rocks Amphitheater. That
Speaker 2: one's not sold out yet. Red Rocks Amphitheater. That's a
Speaker 2: big one, that's like.
Speaker 1: Ten thousand people.
Speaker 2: I can't so yeah, go to Chelsea Heler dot com.
Speaker 2: There are some tickets for some other shows. But yeah,
Speaker 2: and I'm going to add a whole bunch of new
Speaker 2: dates I think.
Speaker 1: Sometime this month.
Speaker 4: Yeah, fantastic.
Speaker 1: It's so hard to figure out where I am.
Speaker 2: I thought I was in Cuba, So I learned all
Speaker 2: about the Spanish conquering Cuba and then the English conquering Cuba,
Speaker 2: and then they had a treaty and they gave Cuba
Speaker 2: back to Spain, and then they kept Florida, and then
Speaker 2: they kept the Lower Mississippi some areas around there, and
Speaker 2: then they discovered sugar during the Atlantic slave trade, which
Speaker 2: was started by the English.
Speaker 1: I'd like to say that, make sure.
Speaker 2: We keep that mentioned so that people fucking understand history,
Speaker 2: because I am so confused about so many things. I
Speaker 2: was like, well, didn't we all come from Egypt to
Speaker 2: my brother one day He's like, no, you asshole, And
Speaker 2: so now I'm reading a book.
Speaker 1: Then we all came from Africa. Everybody came from Africa. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So anyway, the sugar.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Cuba was the center of sugar for a
Speaker 2: long time. Slaves were responsible for all of the prosperity
Speaker 2: of the United States, beginning the United States and basically
Speaker 2: taking all of the sugar cane, hacking it, cutting it,
Speaker 2: transferring it, blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: And so that's when the Atlantic slave.
Speaker 2: Trade peaked, was during the sugar I want to say rush,
Speaker 2: but I don't think it's called a rush.
Speaker 4: I like calling it a sugar rush.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sugar rush.
Speaker 4: That's a different gun.
Speaker 1: That's a difference. That's something too. So yeah, there's that.
Speaker 2: And then I'm learning about Neanderthals and Denisovans and Anatolia
Speaker 2: and Homo erectus and how we all kind of changed
Speaker 2: and when we split off, like right before Homo erectus
Speaker 2: we split off, we diverged. One became chimpanzees and the
Speaker 2: other became modern humans. Oh my god, short history of
Speaker 2: humanity is called I need.
Speaker 4: To read what you're reading, because like, as a kid
Speaker 4: who grew up going to Christian school, where we had
Speaker 4: let's say, a warped and abbreviated version of science, I
Speaker 4: didn't even know that like Pangaea existed until I was
Speaker 4: in college. I remember saying to a teacher once, why
Speaker 4: does it look like the two, you know, halves of
Speaker 4: the earth would fit together? And they're like, that's just
Speaker 4: a funny thing God did. Like that kind of stuff
Speaker 4: was what I grew up.
Speaker 2: I also believed that we were Everything was connected, even
Speaker 2: the islands, and not all the islands like Sardinia Corsica
Speaker 2: were never part of the mainland.
Speaker 4: They were just like they were volcanic.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, so they have their own thing going.
Speaker 2: So that's interesting too that that would naturally happen, that
Speaker 2: there would be elands sprinkled everywhere.
Speaker 4: You know, I mean, I guess I got such bad
Speaker 4: science education. I didn't even remember the word for continence.
Speaker 4: You know, the halves of the world. It's just wild.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is wild.
Speaker 2: And you know, you know you read something and you retain.
Speaker 2: I'd be interested in my level of retainment. I want
Speaker 2: to take tests after every book I read to see
Speaker 2: how much I took in.
Speaker 4: I think we're trying to send you back to college.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't some sort of curriculum quite frankly, Okay, what
Speaker 2: do we got.
Speaker 1: What's happening to me?
Speaker 4: Well, Chelsea, I had had my.
Speaker 1: Ski buddy on today, but I won't tell you that
Speaker 1: is until she's on.
Speaker 4: That's very exciting. So, Chelsea, I had an email come
Speaker 4: in about Dana, who had called in her step son
Speaker 4: was being sort of vaguely creepy and yes, yes, and
Speaker 4: she mentioned like he was maybe being able to touch
Speaker 4: you peely with her son. And I just thought this
Speaker 4: email was so important that I wanted to share it
Speaker 4: with you. Heather says, hello, Chelsea, and Catherine, I wanted
Speaker 4: to say thank you for providing the audience with the
Speaker 4: mother that called in about her steps on she feels
Speaker 4: uncomfortable around. While I had no doubt this would be
Speaker 4: your response, I truly appreciate you not minimizing the seriousness
Speaker 4: of needing to take action to protect her younger son,
Speaker 4: self and family. I'm also in awe of the mother's
Speaker 4: strength to reach out for advice, because that is so tricky.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's like it's this sort of nebulous thing.
Speaker 4: My personal story includes eight plus years of a very
Speaker 4: close family friend grooming me as a child with uncomfortable touching,
Speaker 4: inappropriate sexual conversations for an adult to have with a child,
Speaker 4: shower peeping, accidental quote unquote porn exposure, and more. While
Speaker 4: rape never occurred, it has left years worth of trauma
Speaker 4: response that I'm working through with a great therapist. However,
Speaker 4: at the time it was brushed off by others as
Speaker 4: creepy old man vibes or that shoulder or waiste touching
Speaker 4: wasn't considered a sexual touch even if I didn't want it.
Speaker 4: I think I was meant to hear this podcast today
Speaker 4: as my therapy session this week was focused on my
Speaker 4: continued struggle with not freezing in a moment when someone
Speaker 4: touches me in a suggestive but not legally sexual way.
Speaker 4: The mother listening to her intuition and taking charge to
Speaker 4: keep her young son safe could have a huge impact
Speaker 4: on her son's future. It's something I wish would have
Speaker 4: happened for myself. Her older steps on clearly also needs support,
Speaker 4: and I'm thankful you communicated to prioritize safety of family
Speaker 4: while acknowledging his need for help too. It's these conversations
Speaker 4: and stories that I hope will help others think differently
Speaker 4: on the impact these quote unquote micro traumas can have
Speaker 4: over time. Thanks so much for your awesomeness and sharing
Speaker 4: both the funny and needed stories of our lives. Heather.
Speaker 2: I like how she said micro trauma because I learned
Speaker 2: about complex trauma from a friend of mine over the
Speaker 2: weekend who I hung out with, and he was telling
Speaker 2: me about complex trauma is trauma over time, right, like
Speaker 2: neglect or alcoholism or drug addiction, something like that that
Speaker 2: you lay witness to.
Speaker 1: If you have a sibling that has a terrible.
Speaker 2: Schizophrenia, that would be complex trauma, which is different than
Speaker 2: event trauma rights and PTSD is related to event trauma.
Speaker 2: But I want to underline the intuition part because more
Speaker 2: and more people are talking about intuition and understanding that
Speaker 2: it is a very concrete, if.
Speaker 1: Not measurable thing.
Speaker 2: And for every woman and man that is listening to
Speaker 2: all our gaze.
Speaker 1: You all have it.
Speaker 2: We all have intuition. We all have a feeling in
Speaker 2: our stomach and our gut. Sometimes it's in your heart,
Speaker 2: or it feels like in your heart, but it is
Speaker 2: really in your gut when you meet someone, and it's
Speaker 2: the exact opposite of the feeling you get when you
Speaker 2: know something's wrong, when somebody comes into your space a
Speaker 2: person and you know they're dangerous right away you see
Speaker 2: that they're sketchy, or that they're unhinged, or that they're unpredictable.
Speaker 1: That feeling right there.
Speaker 2: You can also have in the opposite way about something
Speaker 2: you should do, or somebody you should move towards, or
Speaker 2: a thing that is right, And if you really listen
Speaker 2: to yourself, you are going to know what that is.
Speaker 2: And we don't talk about intuition in the way that
Speaker 2: we need to, because young girls need to trust their intuition.
Speaker 2: They need to trust the way that their body feels,
Speaker 2: because your body will tell your brain what is happening.
Speaker 1: And it is.
Speaker 4: It's such a concrete thing. It's like you when you're
Speaker 4: in a certain situation or you're around someone who makes
Speaker 4: you uncomfortable, it turns into a physical reaction. Your stomach
Speaker 4: gets in and not your hair goes up on the
Speaker 4: back of your neck.
Speaker 2: Like trust your changes. The way you're holding yourself and
Speaker 2: carrying yourself changes, like.
Speaker 4: The body is communicating with you.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: You know, sometimes I fold my arms when I'm in
Speaker 2: a conversation and I realize how off putting that is.
Speaker 2: Like that's the definition of being defensive, is having your arms,
Speaker 2: even if that's a comfortable position for you. That's how
Speaker 2: it's kind of received most of the time. And that's
Speaker 2: because my body's doing it. My body is saying, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm uncomfortable in this conversation, and you have to listen
Speaker 2: to those signals or you know, sometimes it's just ego,
Speaker 2: like oh they're saying something that I don't like or
Speaker 2: in the great.
Speaker 1: Way or whatever.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think that's a great conversation for any
Speaker 2: parents listening to have with your young children. Yeah, following
Speaker 2: your gut. It is so important, especially with situations like
Speaker 2: the ones we're just talking about.
Speaker 4: Where it's not illegal, it's not illicit, but it is
Speaker 4: something that is having an effect and an impact on
Speaker 4: that child or that adult. You know, this can happen
Speaker 4: in adult situations as well. One really helpful listener, Tatiana,
Speaker 4: wrote in saying some of the early warning signs of
Speaker 4: psychosis are a worrisome drop in grades or job performance,
Speaker 4: trouble thinking clearly, suspiciousness or uneasiness with others, a decline
Speaker 4: in self care or personal hygiene, spending a lot more
Speaker 4: time alone than usual, and strong inappropriate emotions are having
Speaker 4: no feelings at all. And I think that's a really
Speaker 4: important thing to point out as well, because that age
Speaker 4: they said, like twenty seven right around there, that's kind
Speaker 4: of when some mental illnesses will present themselves to people.
Speaker 4: So thanks to everyone who wrote in about that. So
Speaker 4: I thought this was so important to highlight and really
Speaker 4: paying attention to, you know, those little things and if
Speaker 4: someone says I'm uncomfortable, like listening to them and seeing
Speaker 4: what needs to what Steff's need to be taken.
Speaker 2: So okay, So who's our first guest Okay, our first guest.
Speaker 1: We it's our only guest. I forgot that I'm not
Speaker 1: on a TV show right now. Our guest today.
Speaker 2: Is a friend of mine, a good friend of mine,
Speaker 2: and she's an Olympic gold medalist and she's a skier.
Speaker 2: But before I introduce her, I really want to mention
Speaker 2: her philanthropy. She has a foundation called a Lindsay Vaughn Foundation,
Speaker 2: which empowers underserved girls with camps, scholarships and more. So
Speaker 2: please make sure you are aware of that and check
Speaker 2: it out. She wrote a great book which everyone should read.
Speaker 1: It's called Rise.
Speaker 2: Okay, please welcome Lindsay vat Ah.
Speaker 1: There she is, Miss America.
Speaker 2: I was hoping that I was gonna interrupt you your
Speaker 2: ski day today.
Speaker 1: Where are you?
Speaker 5: I'm in Orlando.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know. I have a dilemma.
Speaker 2: Actually, I'm glad you brought up Florida because for my
Speaker 2: new tour, I was just on the phone with my
Speaker 2: agents this morning and they were going over routing for
Speaker 2: the fall dates that were going to announce later, and
Speaker 2: Florida was on the list. And I said, guys, I
Speaker 2: don't know about Florida anymore.
Speaker 1: And they're like, well, do you really want.
Speaker 2: To punish the people in Florida, Like you have people
Speaker 2: you every time you go, you go to like six
Speaker 2: stops of Florida. I'm like, no, I don't. I don't
Speaker 2: want to punish the people of Florida. They're being punished enough.
Speaker 2: But I feel like as a statement, I just have
Speaker 2: to say fuck off. Like when is enough enough? Like
Speaker 2: all of this legislation, Like I feel like DeSantis needs
Speaker 2: to know. Certain people aren't going to come. I'm sure
Speaker 2: they don't care about me. But if more people do it,
Speaker 2: But then there's the argument that you're affecting revenue, you're
Speaker 2: affecting people's jobs, you're affecting people's lifestyle. So I don't
Speaker 2: really know what the right answer is. If anybody listening
Speaker 2: has feelings on this, please DM me. Actually, DM lindsay,
Speaker 2: shall I go through them first and then she'll read
Speaker 2: them to me?
Speaker 1: What are you doing in Orlando?
Speaker 5: I'm speaking, you know, Apparently some people want my advice
Speaker 5: for some reason. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I believe it. You're a champion. We were just watching
Speaker 2: your night race at k I'll say.
Speaker 1: The streef, the streef in cloth kids, fool kids, puel kits.
Speaker 5: Fuel Yes, kids fuel the strife. Yes, good job guys.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and this video is of you skiing the world's
Speaker 4: hardest ski run. You were not only the first woman
Speaker 4: to do it, but you also did it in the dark,
Speaker 4: just to make it more insane. This video is crazy.
Speaker 4: I'll put a link to it in the show notes.
Speaker 3: It's a hard one.
Speaker 5: Honestly, I've not run into one American that has gotten
Speaker 5: it right so far. But it's okay. The effort was there.
Speaker 5: I appreciate you well.
Speaker 1: It's also a hard line to ski. It's it's not
Speaker 1: even a line.
Speaker 2: I don't even know what the fuck you would call
Speaker 2: what you do, but it is so so hardcore, it's
Speaker 2: so bad. As I mean, all my ski buddies from
Speaker 2: Whistler who are real ski you know, like they know
Speaker 2: how to ski and they are just like you have.
Speaker 2: When that video came out, we must have watched it
Speaker 2: like fifteen times. If you haven't seen it, she did
Speaker 2: it with Red Bull. You can watch it on Lindsay's Instagram,
Speaker 2: which you should be following her anyway, because you put.
Speaker 1: Out great content.
Speaker 2: I saw you powder skiing the other day and I
Speaker 2: wanted to ask you, how do you because if you
Speaker 2: spent your life training, you know, downhill and solom and
Speaker 2: all the stuff that you do, do you spend a
Speaker 2: lot of time in powder before you retire?
Speaker 5: Oh No, I never powder skied because I was so
Speaker 5: worried that I would hurt myself. And some of the
Speaker 5: other athletes would go powder skiing, like if our race
Speaker 5: was canceled because of so much No, you know, definitely,
Speaker 5: I would say some of the girls would go, like
Speaker 5: people that are from California that grew up skiing powder,
Speaker 5: But I didn't grow up skiing powder. I'm from Minnesota.
Speaker 5: There's not one powder day in the entire season. It's
Speaker 5: mostly man man and you're cool as hell. So I
Speaker 5: just I love skiing, you know, and it's powder is
Speaker 5: a lot easier on my knees. And while it's not
Speaker 5: something that you know, I've grown up with, I just
Speaker 5: I love it and it's fun and it's the most
Speaker 5: exciting thing that I can do outside of racing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, powder skiing is really fucking fun. And you know
Speaker 2: what is so fun about it, or so funny about
Speaker 2: it is that when you learn how to ski technically,
Speaker 2: as Lindsay can speak to way more than I can.
Speaker 1: But from what little I've gleaned.
Speaker 2: Everything you learn about regular skiing goes out the window.
Speaker 2: When you ski powder, you know, you're not on an agle,
Speaker 2: you're not turning, You're bouncing like a bunny rabbit through
Speaker 2: the snow and just like hopping like boom boo boo.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like leaning back. It's the exact opposite that
Speaker 5: any instructor would ever teach you. It's all just lean
Speaker 5: back and ride the wave. It's like surfing. It's pretty
Speaker 5: funny because your point is the exact opposite of what
Speaker 5: you've been told, what you've been taught, and just throw
Speaker 5: it all out the window. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well you've been through a lot and you've been
Speaker 2: injured a lot, and I want to talk a little bit.
Speaker 2: I know you.
Speaker 1: Lindsay wrote a.
Speaker 2: Great book about her whole life, her autobiography, and in
Speaker 2: it you talk a lot about your recoveries from many
Speaker 2: different accidents, and I want to know obviously you were
Speaker 2: mentally tough. You couldn't survive all of this and continue
Speaker 2: to go back out there, especially what you just skied,
Speaker 2: and kidspoel like.
Speaker 1: Why would you do that?
Speaker 2: You said, I mean, I think you said you had
Speaker 2: like your surgery ready to go in case you did
Speaker 2: wipe out and hurt yourself.
Speaker 1: Is that true?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I'm getting my knee replaced, so I
Speaker 5: figured this was a perfect time to do it, because
Speaker 5: if I crash and I need surgery, I'm getting it anyway,
Speaker 5: so I don't mind risking it. But I've had my
Speaker 5: fair share of surgeries. I mean, you've hurt your knee,
Speaker 5: you know, you know the deal. But I don't think
Speaker 5: it's ever impacted my passion for ski racing or for
Speaker 5: skiing in general. I just love the mountain. I just
Speaker 5: wish it had been a little bit easier on my body.
Speaker 5: But I don't have any regrets. You know, despite the
Speaker 5: fact that I limp around most of the time, I
Speaker 5: still wouldn't change anything.
Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about the mindset that allows you to
Speaker 2: do that, because you work out really hard, so I
Speaker 2: know your body's been beaten up, but you still have
Speaker 2: a significant amount of strength left and determination in order
Speaker 2: to keep all of that going, which I think is
Speaker 2: really vital for I think all women, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, with like our physicality, It's like you get
Speaker 2: an injury and you can.
Speaker 1: Be so down on yourself.
Speaker 2: First of all, it's depressing and you're immobile, and then
Speaker 2: you're taking pills and you're you know, you're trying to
Speaker 2: recuperate and all of that is like a real negative
Speaker 2: downer on you. So to be able to pick yourself
Speaker 2: back up that from that, not once, but repeatedly is
Speaker 2: very admirable.
Speaker 1: And to keep going.
Speaker 2: You know, I know a lot of people who get
Speaker 2: into an accident, they don't want to ever do that
Speaker 2: thing again. And it's like, oh, I want to do
Speaker 2: that thing right away again because I don't want to
Speaker 2: be scared of it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly. I mean I think to your point, a
Speaker 5: lot of people can get down and I got very down.
Speaker 5: I mean I got really depressed when I was injured.
Speaker 5: I missed the Olympics. I was injured back to back acls,
Speaker 5: which took me out for almost two years in a row.
Speaker 5: And it's really hard to find anything positive, you know,
Speaker 5: when you especially when you repeatedly get injured, like what
Speaker 5: am I doing?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 5: Why am I doing this? And it's hard to find
Speaker 5: the motivation. But I think for me it always goes
Speaker 5: back to passion, you know why I love ski racing
Speaker 5: and I've always had and that's why I kept doing
Speaker 5: it and kept coming back, but it doesn't make the
Speaker 5: recovery any easier. You know, it's always with rehab, it's
Speaker 5: always two steps forward, one step back, and sometimes one
Speaker 5: step forward two steps back. You know, it's a very monotonous, long,
Speaker 5: slow grind, and I just have learned through repetition that
Speaker 5: you just have to stick to it and keep going,
Speaker 5: you know, keep putting one foot in the front in
Speaker 5: front of the other, and that's the only thing you
Speaker 5: can do, honestly.
Speaker 2: And your transition since you've retired has been You're still
Speaker 2: really involved with the US ski team. You're still really
Speaker 2: involved in skiing. You're skiing with people all the time
Speaker 2: in Utah Vale or you know, all over the place,
Speaker 2: I guess.
Speaker 1: And so tell me it.
Speaker 2: Talk to me a little bit about that transition for you,
Speaker 2: because I know, as an athlete or I don't know,
Speaker 2: I can imagine how difficult it must be to say
Speaker 2: goodbye to that part of your life. But in a
Speaker 2: way you've kind of extended it in a way that
Speaker 2: we haven't seen many people do publicly.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I definitely felt like when I retired,
Speaker 5: a part of me died, you know, it was something
Speaker 5: where I knew I could never go back, and I've
Speaker 5: been doing it my entire life. I've been skiing since
Speaker 5: I was two and a half years old. And after
Speaker 5: I retired, I woke up and what I loved to
Speaker 5: do every day was suddenly gone, and I had to
Speaker 5: really figure out, Okay, what is it about ski racing
Speaker 5: that I loved? I love being on the mountain. So
Speaker 5: it took me about a year and a half, but
Speaker 5: I got back out there and I relearned my passion
Speaker 5: for the sport as a whole, and I enjoyed skiing
Speaker 5: with my family, with my friends. I've gone to places
Speaker 5: now that I've been many times before, but I've never
Speaker 5: actually skied. I've been to Courschevelle, I've rached there many, many,
Speaker 5: many times, but I've never been anywhere other than the
Speaker 5: race trail. So I got to go back and explore
Speaker 5: the mountain and you know, find my passion again. And
Speaker 5: I think, you know, for me, I don't like sitting
Speaker 5: still downhill. I always had adrenaline and that was really
Speaker 5: hard to replace. But I've found ways to challenge myself
Speaker 5: and you know, push myself now in business and just
Speaker 5: keep again, like waking up every day with a new challenge,
Speaker 5: and that's been exciting. It's you know, I feel like
Speaker 5: there's so many opportunities and I'm excited for the future.
Speaker 1: To be honest, yeah, I know.
Speaker 2: I like watching what you've been doing in the last
Speaker 2: couple of years. And we've known each other for a
Speaker 2: long time actually, and it feels like you have really
Speaker 2: found your groove and like all of these opportunities, your philanthropy,
Speaker 2: your foundation, and all of the business opera tunities that
Speaker 2: you have cultivated for yourself is a great model I
Speaker 2: think for a lot of younger athletes who are probably
Speaker 2: looking going, oh, she made this like so seamless, you know.
Speaker 5: Well, it's definitely wasn't seamless. I mean, I can't tell
Speaker 5: you how hard it was. You know, as a ski racer,
Speaker 5: we don't we don't make money. There's no money in
Speaker 5: ski racing. So I had to really work hard to
Speaker 5: make a business for myself. And my dad always made
Speaker 5: me aware when I was younger that if I wanted
Speaker 5: to be successful, I had to be more than an athlete,
Speaker 5: and so I always took that approach. I always want
Speaker 5: the extra mile. I always did all the interviews, you know,
Speaker 5: I was really careful with my sponsorships, what partnerships I chose,
Speaker 5: always thinking long term. And I was actually made fun of.
Speaker 5: You know, a lot of people were like, why are
Speaker 5: you spending so much time with this, You know, you're
Speaker 5: distracted from your racing, And I said, no, I can
Speaker 5: do both. I can win races, I can have my
Speaker 5: own business. I can be successful on multiple levels at
Speaker 5: the same time. And I think, you know, just believing
Speaker 5: in myself and not listening to anyone else was was
Speaker 5: the best thing that I could do, because I wouldn't
Speaker 5: be anywhere if I'd listened to every single person that
Speaker 5: said I wouldn't do anything, or couldn't be anything, or
Speaker 5: you know, couldn't multitask. Women are great multitaskers.
Speaker 2: I think, you know, fucking tell me about it. I mean, honestly, like,
Speaker 2: women are so much better. When I was at the
Speaker 2: doctors this morning, and I would ask him one question
Speaker 2: and then he just stopped everything he was doing to
Speaker 2: answer the question. And I looked at him and I
Speaker 2: wanted to say, keep keep keep going, like don't we
Speaker 2: don't have to do separate things, like you can work
Speaker 2: and talk, can't.
Speaker 1: You after like get it together?
Speaker 2: I mean, women are just like you know, you're eating
Speaker 2: a hard boiled egg, feeding your dog, getting on a plane, like,
Speaker 2: we're doing a million things at once. And it's so
Speaker 2: crazy to me that they cannot talk and think at.
Speaker 1: The same time.
Speaker 5: They can't even fathom what we do. It's pretty n no.
Speaker 1: I know your mom was a big influence on you.
Speaker 2: I know you posted something today about her and her
Speaker 2: determination and how she inspired you and showed you what
Speaker 2: determination looked like.
Speaker 1: So talk to me a little bit about that.
Speaker 5: I mean, I think my mom impacted me in more
Speaker 5: ways than I even really truly understand now, and I
Speaker 5: think now that she's passed away, it's been a few months,
Speaker 5: and you know, I still always reflect on what she
Speaker 5: showed me. My mom had a stroke when she gave
Speaker 5: birth to me, and she wasn't able to do physically
Speaker 5: the things with me that I would have loved to
Speaker 5: do with her, like ski She couldn't ride a bike.
Speaker 5: The only thing she really could do what she loved
Speaker 5: was swimming, which I'm ironically horrible at I think like
Speaker 5: a rock. But you know, my mom always tried and
Speaker 5: she failed, but she always tried. She would try to
Speaker 5: ride a bike and I would watch your fall over
Speaker 5: and over and over again. But she always got back up,
Speaker 5: and she always tried, and she always had a smile,
Speaker 5: and she always was positive. And even when you know,
Speaker 5: she was in her hospital bed and she couldn't move
Speaker 5: her arms or legs, she was positive and she said,
Speaker 5: you know, today is another great day. And it got
Speaker 5: harder and harder, but she never lost that perspective. And
Speaker 5: I felt like when I was injured, I was lucky
Speaker 5: to have the opportunity to try again. You know, my
Speaker 5: mom didn't have that opportunity because of her stroke. So
Speaker 5: I think throughout my career it's always given me a
Speaker 5: different sense of gratefulness that I think, you know, sometimes
Speaker 5: we lose sight of. I'm lucky to follow my passion
Speaker 5: every single day. I'm lucky that I'm walking and I'm
Speaker 5: you know, while I hate running, I could run if
Speaker 5: I wanted to. It could always be worse, and you know,
Speaker 5: we just have to be positive. And that's always what
Speaker 5: my mom taught me. And I'm very grateful for her influence.
Speaker 5: And again, well I didn't really fully understand it when
Speaker 5: I was growing up. I certainly understood it now, and
Speaker 5: I wish i'd had a little more time with her
Speaker 5: to be able to share more things with her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think you continue to understand it the
Speaker 2: longer we're without our moms. You know, when my mom
Speaker 2: passed away, I certainly was too young to even understand
Speaker 2: on the impact. I remember be talking in this interview
Speaker 2: about somebody asking me why I'm so strong, And I
Speaker 2: remember talking because I saw the way my mother and
Speaker 2: my dad's dynamic was and I didn't like that. And
Speaker 2: that is just so diminishing to my mother, because my
Speaker 2: mother sacrificed so much, you know, to be our mother
Speaker 2: to not you know, she didn't get to live and
Speaker 2: pursue her dreams the way that I'm able to live
Speaker 2: and pursue my dreams.
Speaker 1: The reason I'm able to do that.
Speaker 2: Is because of my mother. And so I remember I
Speaker 2: was reading this book recently. It's called The Seven Deadly Sins.
Speaker 2: We're having this author on She's awesome, and it just
Speaker 2: talks about how we don't give our mothers enough credit
Speaker 2: for even just the time that they grew up and
Speaker 2: the time that they raised us in It was so
Speaker 2: prohibitive for them. Yet here are people that are able
Speaker 2: to like live out their dreams and go after what
Speaker 2: they want because our mothers were available to give us
Speaker 2: the allowance and the freedom to do that, and if
Speaker 2: they hadn't sacrificed what they had. And I don't think
Speaker 2: that's even just beginning to sink in for me. But
Speaker 2: I do feel like we talk a lot about, you know,
Speaker 2: people who have passed on on the show, and you know,
Speaker 2: I'm not sure how spirritual you are, but I know
Speaker 2: that you're open minded. And I feel like my relationship
Speaker 2: with my mother since she died is stronger than it
Speaker 2: was when we were together on this earth. And there
Speaker 2: are so many moments where I just feel her presence
Speaker 2: so much guiding me and steering me, like in this
Speaker 2: very sagacious, worldly way, which she was not like when
Speaker 2: I was growing up. But that's exactly who she was,
Speaker 2: according to my brothers and sisters. I just never had
Speaker 2: the patience or the time to find that out about
Speaker 2: my mother, you know, because by the time she had.
Speaker 1: Me, she was older.
Speaker 2: So I have to say, like, the idea that relationships
Speaker 2: can even strengthen beyond them being here on earth, I
Speaker 2: totally believe to be true. And I hope you feel
Speaker 2: that too, and are open to those signs and signals
Speaker 2: and like, you know, the stillness sometimes when you feel
Speaker 2: another person's presence is really just so powerful.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And my mom actually lost her mom when she was
Speaker 5: young as well, and when she was in the hospital,
Speaker 5: she said, I want you after I'm gone, to talk
Speaker 5: to me as if I'm there, and I will be
Speaker 5: there and I will listen, just like my mom was
Speaker 5: there listening to me. And it gave me a lot
Speaker 5: of comfort. And you know, I when I ever I
Speaker 5: want to call her, I just I just talked to her.
Speaker 5: She's there.
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, she is. Yeah, it's so sweet. I believe
Speaker 1: that our moms are there.
Speaker 2: Hopefully they're hanging out and your mom isching my mom something,
Speaker 2: you know, hopefully.
Speaker 1: Listening to the podcast right now. Blah blah, crying.
Speaker 2: Okay, anyway, thank you for sharing, Thank you for being candid.
Speaker 2: I feel like we just had this moment.
Speaker 1: We did.
Speaker 5: We were.
Speaker 1: Last time we saw each other.
Speaker 2: We were on the Kelly Clarkson Show or no, was
Speaker 2: it Kelly class was Kelly Clark with Wolfgang Fuck And
Speaker 2: we were talking about her book and she started crying,
Speaker 2: and then of course I started crying because it's contagious
Speaker 2: and so now we're just crying whenever we see each other.
Speaker 1: Okay, So, anyway, we're going to take some callers.
Speaker 2: We're gonna call in and we're gonna give them some advice,
Speaker 2: and we've curated this episode to suit things that you would.
Speaker 1: Have experience with.
Speaker 4: Yes, okay, and we'll take a break and grab some
Speaker 4: cleanex and be right back.
Speaker 2: And we're back.
Speaker 1: We'refrect Are we ready to continue?
Speaker 3: We're doing okay?
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, okay, i'd be great.
Speaker 4: Well, our first question comes from Rachel in Denver, and
Speaker 4: she obviously, somehow a month before we talked about getting
Speaker 4: you on the show, knew that you were going to
Speaker 4: come on.
Speaker 1: She manifested it.
Speaker 4: And so she says thank you in advance for reading
Speaker 4: my letter. I'm hoping Lindsay Vaughn makes an appearance on
Speaker 4: the podcast, so this question is written to both Chelsea
Speaker 4: and Lindsay. Dear Chelsea and Lindsay. I'm a thirty three
Speaker 4: year old single female living in the Denver area of
Speaker 4: Colorado with my dog Hide. My main hobbies are mountain
Speaker 4: biking and skiing, but I love staying active in general.
Speaker 4: A year ago, I ended a toxic long term relationship.
Speaker 4: Even though it was a crazy past year, I was
Speaker 4: actually able to achieve one of my life goals, which
Speaker 4: was buying a second house and turning both of my
Speaker 4: houses into airbnbs. It's been incredible to make the leap
Speaker 4: and finally do what I've been dreaming of. Owning and
Speaker 4: running these two businesses while still having my full time job.
Speaker 4: Has allowed me to start saving for my second life goal,
Speaker 4: which is to take a mini retirement before I'm forty
Speaker 4: so I can travel the world mountain biking and skiing.
Speaker 4: This leads me right.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 4: This leads me to my first question, which is what
Speaker 4: are your tips for being a single, solo female traveler.
Speaker 4: I want to be able to make new friends and
Speaker 4: ski and mountain bike wherever I travel to. In particular,
Speaker 4: how can I make friends with guys who like these
Speaker 4: activities without looking like I'm interested in them. My second
Speaker 4: question is do you have any recommendations on a good
Speaker 4: ski jacket and bib Combo. I've had my same ski
Speaker 4: outfit since college and it's starting to fall apart. I
Speaker 4: took Chelsea's advice and got some heated gloves this season.
Speaker 4: They've been life changing, so I'm curious what ski apparel
Speaker 4: brands you like best. I want to look good a
Speaker 4: really warm while out there.
Speaker 3: Rachel.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, let me answer the last part first, because
Speaker 2: Lindsay sent me her fucking suit which is called core
Speaker 2: right by it it's by Head, but Lindsay designed it.
Speaker 2: This is the best ski suit I have ever had.
Speaker 2: It's two pieces, but it has it's Is it gore
Speaker 2: tex or is it something stronger than gortex, because I.
Speaker 5: Think I think it's something similar but stronger.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I have gortex suits and they're not like this,
Speaker 2: and I love Arctarics, that's what I usually wear. This
Speaker 2: is better than Arctarics. This not only keeps the cold
Speaker 2: the wet out, it keeps the wind out. It's somehow
Speaker 2: fucking windproof this suit. And Whistler has very strange weather patterns,
Speaker 2: so there's a lot of really like Arctic blasts, and
Speaker 2: it gets really cold.
Speaker 1: Most people don't like to ski in that. I love that,
Speaker 1: but this keeps me warm.
Speaker 2: And this scuit, I mean this suit, Lindsay. Everyone stopped me.
Speaker 2: I've never worn a suit so many days in a row,
Speaker 2: and then I wore this suit.
Speaker 5: I know, I actually noticed that I'm like, Wow, she
Speaker 5: doesn't stop worrying it. She must like it because you
Speaker 5: normally change like every single day, which I do too,
Speaker 5: so I get it. But I appreciate the support. That
Speaker 5: was like a great that was a great ad life.
Speaker 1: It's just the best suit. And I'm not full of shit.
Speaker 5: I love it so much, like I you literally wouldn't
Speaker 5: wear it if you didn't like it.
Speaker 1: I know that, Yes, you do know that.
Speaker 2: And I'll just all the details, even around the knees,
Speaker 2: like that little roushing and then like the bottom couffs, everything,
Speaker 2: the pockets.
Speaker 1: Everything is perfect on this jacket.
Speaker 2: And when you ski, like you know, if you're protecting
Speaker 2: the back of your helmet, which I learned like how
Speaker 2: to keep you know, you always want to trap heat
Speaker 2: when it's really cold. This suit is just like it's
Speaker 2: almost like a NASA suit. That's how I felt like.
Speaker 2: I just felt tougher. So everybody who anybody who's listening
Speaker 2: that wants to ski, yeah, please look into her. Go
Speaker 2: find Does it come in different colors or is that
Speaker 2: one color?
Speaker 5: Yeah? I think it's it's in like forest green and
Speaker 5: baby blue and yellow and black. Oh great, Oh perfect,
Speaker 5: that's nice. Y, So I'll have to send you some
Speaker 5: more colors so you can rotate instead of just having
Speaker 5: every single day. Although green's my favorite color, so I
Speaker 5: do think you look great at that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a pretty color. And let me know how
Speaker 1: that knee surgery goes.
Speaker 2: Also, because I'm interested in possibly replacing my knees at
Speaker 2: some point both of them.
Speaker 5: Yes you should. I mean I know a lot of
Speaker 5: people that have had it, and they've all raved about it,
Speaker 5: so I am very excited. I'm always limited with what
Speaker 5: I can do physically because of my knee, and I'm
Speaker 5: excited to hopefully not have that in the future.
Speaker 2: Plus, you're so good at recovering from surgeries, like this
Speaker 2: is going to be a please from you.
Speaker 5: I can do my own rehab.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay, So the first part of that woman's question.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So the first part was how does she get
Speaker 2: into groups and meet guys without there thinking they're into them?
Speaker 1: I don't, right, Well, that's a separate issue. The first issue.
Speaker 1: First of all, you should join Strata if you have it.
Speaker 2: If you're not on Strata, because that's a great bike
Speaker 2: riding community where you can compare speeds, meet people, talk
Speaker 2: to people who.
Speaker 1: Are in the area that you're going to.
Speaker 2: If you don't want to go on these adventures by yourself,
Speaker 2: there's always cycling groups. You know, in my Orca, I know,
Speaker 2: there's tons of cycling groups that you can join as
Speaker 2: a single person and find people that are also going
Speaker 2: to be single, so that you're never really alone traveling,
Speaker 2: because I think as a female it is more important
Speaker 2: to always surround yourself with some people that are going
Speaker 2: to be there, you know, whether they're friends or not.
Speaker 2: It's just better not to be alone as a woman
Speaker 2: in some some parts of the world, like the United States.
Speaker 2: So I would definitely do that joint strati if you're
Speaker 2: not already on that. And all of these activities you're
Speaker 2: talking about, whether it's skiing or whether it's biking, you
Speaker 2: could always find these groups too, Like you know, there's
Speaker 2: there's always like a social aspect for skiing.
Speaker 5: There's also like in Portillo, Chili, there's you know, groups
Speaker 5: that come down. There's also singles women's week. You know,
Speaker 5: there's most ski resorts have you know, either a singles
Speaker 5: week or a women's only week. You know, there's a
Speaker 5: ton of groups that you can travel with and meet
Speaker 5: up with, so you're not by yourself, but you're with
Speaker 5: people that are equally excited to do what you want
Speaker 5: to do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's the easy part.
Speaker 2: So get your ski suit, go on your trips, join
Speaker 2: all these clubs, and then come back with a husband
Speaker 2: or ye per excellent, excellent.
Speaker 4: Well, our next question comes from Miranda, and she's going
Speaker 4: to be joining us here on the zoom. She's twenty eight.
Speaker 4: Dear Chelsea, I'm a female golfer and constantly on the
Speaker 4: golf course men make sexist comments toward me and my
Speaker 4: female friends. I usually just laugh off their quote unquote jokes,
Speaker 4: but it bothers me so much to the point where
Speaker 4: it negatively affects my game and my desire to get
Speaker 4: on the course. I've asked a couple of women in
Speaker 4: my life for advice about this, but there are never
Speaker 4: any concrete ideas. I feel like Chelsea would have good
Speaker 4: tips on how I can put these men in their
Speaker 4: place or not let it affect me as much as
Speaker 4: it does. It happens almost every round that we get
Speaker 4: paired with older men. I absolutely love golf, but this
Speaker 4: aspect of it fills me with such anxiety that I
Speaker 4: wonder of continuing to play is even worth it? Miranda?
Speaker 1: Hi, Miranda, Hello, how's it going good.
Speaker 2: Our special guest is Lindsay Vaughan. So you have heard
Speaker 2: today to give you advice as well.
Speaker 3: How are you good? How are you good? I normally
Speaker 3: cheer for Team Canada that I can make an exception
Speaker 3: to them.
Speaker 1: I think you'll have to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, anyway, you're right, you're right.
Speaker 1: Well, Lindsay, do you want to start this one? Because
Speaker 1: I feel like you've probably had a lot of experience
Speaker 1: with this kind of thing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I definitely have. I honestly I enjoy it. I
Speaker 5: use it to my advantage and I love also self deprecation.
Speaker 5: So you know, whatever guys throw at me, I usually
Speaker 5: make some self deprecating comment back, or you know, I
Speaker 5: hit them with I kind of flip it around on them,
Speaker 5: or you know, I don't know. I just find that
Speaker 5: the more I use it as like a positive, I
Speaker 5: always performed better when I was keying when people made
Speaker 5: fun of me, especially men. I mean, I've been made
Speaker 5: fun of for literally everything, and I'm still being made
Speaker 5: fun of, which is kind of insane. Like I got
Speaker 5: comments because I was wearing a tight one piece suit
Speaker 5: the other day and someone that I've known for a
Speaker 5: long time made a comment about how tight my suit was,
Speaker 5: and I was like, you know what, the guy's just jealous,
Speaker 5: you know, he's you know, you know, they're jealous of
Speaker 5: what I have. And and again I don't take it personally,
Speaker 5: which is obviously easier said than done. But however, you
Speaker 5: can flip it, whether it's in your mind or it's
Speaker 5: a comment back to them, the better, and you know,
Speaker 5: you again use it to your advantage.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that. I like the idea of using
Speaker 1: it to fuel you.
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, if you're talking to me, obviously I'm
Speaker 2: just gonna go off on that guy and they're never
Speaker 2: going to say another thing to me.
Speaker 5: Again, I knew that was coming.
Speaker 2: I can't give you the language to do that, but
Speaker 2: I mean, you just give a dish up what they're
Speaker 2: dishing up right back at them. Because men can't handle
Speaker 2: what they say to women. They can't fucking handle it.
Speaker 2: They're sensitive and they're insecure.
Speaker 3: Secure.
Speaker 1: You wouldn't be making.
Speaker 2: Fun of somebody unless you were insecure, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, especially when you haven't done anything to deserve that.
Speaker 1: You're golfing.
Speaker 3: I know, I feel like by me not saying anything,
Speaker 3: it almost compromises my comfort just to almost protect theirs,
Speaker 3: which which I hate. And the annoying thing is it
Speaker 3: normally happens when like I normally only golf with one friend,
Speaker 3: and when you only book a tea time for two people,
Speaker 3: they always pair you with two other people, and it's
Speaker 3: always two older men that are saying stuff to us
Speaker 3: the entire time. So it's basically four hours of this.
Speaker 3: Sometimes they're great, and sometimes the groups are horrible, and
Speaker 3: like they say stuff to us right when we start,
Speaker 3: and then it just puts me in a shitty mood
Speaker 3: for the whole day. But yeah, you're right.
Speaker 5: Also, the question is like why golf? I feel like
Speaker 5: there could be a better sport.
Speaker 1: No, let's deconstruct this even more.
Speaker 3: That's a good point.
Speaker 1: I think it's that you're playing golf.
Speaker 3: That's a good point. I took it up during COVID.
Speaker 3: You know what you get outside, you have some drinks,
Speaker 3: riding in a car. It's very fun. I find it relaxing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like you need to get two more
Speaker 1: friends though to do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not. Your day isn't ruined every day by
Speaker 2: these two idiots. So A, get some other friends, rope
Speaker 2: them into golfing. Actually, A I and find a different sport. B.
Speaker 2: If you're going to stick to golfing, rope some other
Speaker 2: friends in so you don't have to deal with two
Speaker 2: guys you don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have done that.
Speaker 1: And see, make sure you give it back to them.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. They will cower as soon
Speaker 1: as you level it up.
Speaker 2: Men, understand that the dynamic is shift. As long as
Speaker 2: you're not saying anything, they're going to keep going in
Speaker 2: on you. It's like a bully. And as soon as
Speaker 2: you turn around and say, hey, like this guy said
Speaker 2: to me the other day, these guys invited me, helly skiing?
Speaker 2: I said, no, my knee's really blown, like my knee
Speaker 2: was too swollen.
Speaker 1: I go, my knee hurts. He goes, oh, your knee hurts,
Speaker 1: like oh yeah, And I don't want to be seen
Speaker 1: skiing like you see. That's good?
Speaker 5: Right, So good?
Speaker 1: That was over.
Speaker 2: That conversation ended, and he never came back around. If
Speaker 2: I hadn't done that, he would have continued on and
Speaker 2: on and on. But it's good to just kind of
Speaker 2: get some stuff in your arsenal that you could throw
Speaker 2: back at them. And with men, it's really not that difficult,
Speaker 2: Like you don't have to be that prepared for what
Speaker 2: they're talking about.
Speaker 3: No, you know, yeah, you're very right. They're always the
Speaker 3: stupidest jokes too. They're not funny at all. They're all terrible.
Speaker 3: It's never it's like if you're gonna make a joke too,
Speaker 3: to make it a little bit funny entertaining something though,
Speaker 3: it's always like a guy puts the ball not very
Speaker 3: far and he says to his friend like, oh, you
Speaker 3: hit that one with your purse, so stupid.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5: You can come up with some good, good lines in return.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can come up with something better than that.
Speaker 3: But it's just I feel like it always throws me
Speaker 3: off guard every time, which is so strange because I
Speaker 3: should be used to it by now.
Speaker 2: Well, then you have to get more prepared. You have
Speaker 2: to go in there more prepared with the mission. Like today,
Speaker 2: I'm going to give it back. I'm going to serve
Speaker 2: it right back up to them, And just think about
Speaker 2: every woman that you are helping by you using your voice,
Speaker 2: because the next time they run into a woman like
Speaker 2: you they're going to be much less likely to harass her.
Speaker 1: So if you need that as an extra motivation, use it.
Speaker 3: That's a good point.
Speaker 4: And to your point, they're going to say the same
Speaker 4: jokes every time, so you're not gonna have to come
Speaker 4: up with that many like clapbacks.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, oh it looks like you hit that with
Speaker 2: your purse. You can say what it looks like you
Speaker 2: hit that with one of your balls. There's lots of
Speaker 2: old man bald jokes that you can make, or you know,
Speaker 2: intellect jokes, or the fact that we're in the year
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four?
Speaker 1: Is it twenty three? Yeah, don't take next year that
Speaker 1: I've been thinking it was twenty.
Speaker 2: Twenty four for like two years already. I don't know
Speaker 2: what i'm smoking. Well, we all know what i'm smoking
Speaker 2: at that's a given. Also, try smoking pot while you're
Speaker 2: at the golf course. You won't give a shit about
Speaker 2: anything then true about what they're saying. You'll be really
Speaker 2: focused on your game.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, Normally the drinking comes into play and it
Speaker 3: makes it a little easier, but it's just more annoying
Speaker 3: than anything. It's just irritating that people are still saying
Speaker 3: things like this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but definitely don't let anyone decide like how you're
Speaker 2: going to spend your time. You're not going to knock
Speaker 2: golf because guys are there. You're going to make sure
Speaker 2: that you're.
Speaker 1: Going to golf. You know what I mean? That you're
Speaker 1: going to be fine when guys are around.
Speaker 3: Right, as long as I don't pick another sport before then.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean try volleyball or something that seems
Speaker 1: going to be the.
Speaker 3: Team sports are Okay, I got a couple of those
Speaker 3: on lock. But you know this is good for summer.
Speaker 3: It's good for summer.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, good, yeah, awesome.
Speaker 4: Well Branda, please let us know what kind of come
Speaker 4: back to come up with and how it goes next time.
Speaker 3: All right, Well, do can I say one thing before
Speaker 3: I leave? Chelsea and Catherine. I thought of you guys
Speaker 3: the other day because me and my friends were on
Speaker 3: our way to a ski trip and my friend decided
Speaker 3: she would eat her breakfast in the car and it
Speaker 3: consisted of hard boiled eggs, and right before I turned around,
Speaker 3: I saw her about to open the container and I
Speaker 3: prevented it from happening. But I could not believe she
Speaker 3: was gonna eat them in the car.
Speaker 4: I could not believe that in the privacy of her
Speaker 4: car of car.
Speaker 5: It was our car.
Speaker 3: I was, my boyfriend was driving. I was in the front.
Speaker 2: Let's catch Lindsay up on this so she's aware, Lindsay.
Speaker 2: It was revealed to me late last year, in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty three, that Catherine travels regularly on planes with a
Speaker 2: ziploc bag of hard boiled eggs that have been peeled
Speaker 2: and then and eats them because they're a good source
Speaker 2: of protein. I said, well, it is true.
Speaker 5: However, they do smell like heart boiled eggs.
Speaker 1: Foot eggs smell no feet.
Speaker 5: Yeah, smell like ass. But I think, you know, maybe
Speaker 5: maybe eat them before you get on the plane because
Speaker 5: they are a good source of protein. But like spare
Speaker 5: your seat made.
Speaker 3: When you're closed vehicle. I made her eat them in
Speaker 3: the parking lot. She was standing in the parking lot
Speaker 3: eating them, because I I mean, that's a.
Speaker 5: Fair, that's a fair.
Speaker 2: Some peanut butter or something like a peanut butter stick like,
Speaker 2: that's better. That's not offensive to anyone. Everyone loves peanut butter.
Speaker 2: Almonds don't smell except the kids.
Speaker 1: That are allergic to peanut butter on planes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's many options.
Speaker 2: I flew home from from somewhere yesterday and they put
Speaker 2: down a thing of those almonds, and I'm just like,
Speaker 2: those are the most unappealing almonds I've ever seen.
Speaker 4: Like I was just like what, I was, just like unsalted,
Speaker 4: and I just looked at them.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't even want one, you know, like
Speaker 2: almonds when they're hot on a plane are good. When
Speaker 2: they don't do that and they just throw some mixed together,
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, no, no, back the fuck up, bring
Speaker 2: me some eggs anyway, So grab your obits and grab
Speaker 2: your peanut butter, don't grab your eggs.
Speaker 1: Head to the golf course and stand up for yourself.
Speaker 3: Yes, or I do grab my eggs and no one
Speaker 3: will go near me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good idea.
Speaker 4: My love to your friend.
Speaker 3: I'm sure you would. You guys have got along well.
Speaker 4: Awesome, Thanks so much for colleague and Miranda to take care.
Speaker 3: So yah bye.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know why anyone golfs anyway. I find
Speaker 2: golfing to be so boring.
Speaker 5: It seems I can confirm it's very borings.
Speaker 1: Oh right, exactly.
Speaker 2: You know what I've been watching is that Full Swing
Speaker 2: documentary docuseries.
Speaker 1: Do you know about this on Netflix?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's actually makes golf someone interesting.
Speaker 2: Yes, I was gonna say the same thing because I
Speaker 2: was like, oh, this is something I know nothing about.
Speaker 1: Let me watch a couple of episodes.
Speaker 2: And it's a lot about Jordan's speeth and they have
Speaker 2: a couple of players that are like on the up
Speaker 2: and up.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Jordan's great. I mean, I love Jordan. He's under
Speaker 5: armor guy and I've known him for a long time.
Speaker 5: There's some I mean, there's some good people, and I
Speaker 5: think you just don't see their personalities when they're playing,
Speaker 5: which is why I think others are more engaging. But
Speaker 5: I think that this is showing actually a good side
Speaker 5: of golf, So good on them. And also break Point.
Speaker 5: I've you seen at the Tennis one Breakpoint.
Speaker 2: I've seen a couple episodes of that. And then the
Speaker 2: Formula one also, I haven't seen that yet because that's
Speaker 2: I'm less interested in Formula one than I am in golf,
Speaker 2: but I'm going to get to it because that's another
Speaker 2: sport where I'm not paying attention and I don't know
Speaker 2: what needs.
Speaker 1: To be really good.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought you would love Formula One. It's like skiing.
Speaker 5: It's speed, it's like adrenaline.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but there's a lot of mechanics.
Speaker 2: It's very mechanical, actually not really well the way they
Speaker 2: talk about cars and the pit.
Speaker 1: I like the attitude and the strategy and the winning
Speaker 1: championship vibe. I love that.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: What is also great about full swing is it's great
Speaker 2: to see the ebb and flow of a career because
Speaker 2: you're never at your height all the time. There's highs
Speaker 2: and there's lows, and it's always like the underdog that
Speaker 2: comes in, you know, and wins when you least expect it.
Speaker 2: And the people that have been revered or celebrate to
Speaker 2: the most always end up not forever, but they always
Speaker 2: dip and they have their troubles too, So it's never
Speaker 2: like just some static road where it's just an assent,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: What I mean.
Speaker 5: It's honestly really cool because it's kind of like every
Speaker 5: athlete has their own little mini documentary. And to your
Speaker 5: point of ebbs and flows, no career in any sport,
Speaker 5: I don't care who you are, is always at the top,
Speaker 5: and I think it humanizes athletes and shows you how
Speaker 5: hard it is to be consistently at the top. I
Speaker 5: mean again, no one's at the top forever, but to
Speaker 5: be able to come back every time you go down
Speaker 5: is really hard. So I love these little shows. I
Speaker 5: mean again, they're like mini documentaries for every athlete, and
Speaker 5: that gives every athlete a lot more credit because honestly,
Speaker 5: most people don't quite understand the difficulty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's not you know, there's a lot of similarities.
Speaker 2: You know, in my business, there are dips, and there
Speaker 2: are valleys, and there are struggles, and it is exactly
Speaker 2: how you behave in those moments that make you a champion.
Speaker 2: You know, it's how you pick yourself back up and
Speaker 2: how you succeed again after you've fallen or you've failed
Speaker 2: or what you deem a failure or you have at placed.
Speaker 2: It's very inspiring to watch these kinds of shows because
Speaker 2: it's just it's really about it's a commentary on life
Speaker 2: and you know, competitiveness, and I mean there aren't a
Speaker 2: lot of industries or businesses that you don't have some
Speaker 2: aspect of competitiveness in there.
Speaker 5: Absolutely not. Until totally agree.
Speaker 4: Well, our next question comes from Lana, and this is
Speaker 4: a bit of a relationship beet question. I'm twenty four
Speaker 4: and I've been with my boyfriend for three and a
Speaker 4: half years. This summer, we'll be moving in together for
Speaker 4: the first time in a new city with new jobs.
Speaker 4: Within the next year or so, I expect to be
Speaker 4: engaged to him. Our dynamic has always been the same.
Speaker 4: I'm very affectionate, both physically and verbally. I've been told
Speaker 4: it's like I don't leave the honeymoon phase, and he's
Speaker 4: always kind, caring, supporting me emotionally, showing up for me,
Speaker 4: helping me whenever I ask, and taking me out on
Speaker 4: nice dates. He just doesn't express to me verbally how
Speaker 4: he feels. He'll tell me he loves me when I
Speaker 4: say goodbye or when I prompt it, but usually no
Speaker 4: sweet words come unprompted. I'm not one hundred percent sure
Speaker 4: what's triggering this now, but recently I've been feeling insecure
Speaker 4: about how we display our love to each other and
Speaker 4: how it feels disproportionate to me. The perfect partner would
Speaker 4: be able to show their love through all love languages,
Speaker 4: because they want to gift giving verbal affection, physical affection,
Speaker 4: acts of service are all things I provide when I
Speaker 4: truly and deeply love someone without having to think about it.
Speaker 4: Is this an unrealistic view to expect the same. I've
Speaker 4: talked to him about this, and he says my feelings
Speaker 4: are valid, that he's always felt I have more affection
Speaker 4: toward him than he has for me. This hurt to hear,
Speaker 4: but he assures me that he loves me and is
Speaker 4: in love with me. He just doesn't feel affection for
Speaker 4: anyone as deeply as I do. He told me that
Speaker 4: he used to feel very deeply growing up, but that
Speaker 4: changed after going through painful heartbreaks and dealing with a
Speaker 4: close loss as a young adult. Is it wrong for
Speaker 4: me to find this out looks sad and to want
Speaker 4: more from him in terms of verbal and physical affection,
Speaker 4: even though he checks all the other boxes. I'm torn
Speaker 4: because I know I can find many men who will
Speaker 4: say sweet things to me, but they don't actually care.
Speaker 4: Is it just an insecurity on my part, needing to
Speaker 4: know how he truly feels because of the next steps
Speaker 4: we'll be taking soon? Lana, Hi, Lada, Hi, Hi?
Speaker 1: How are you? I'm doing you and you are twenty four?
Speaker 1: You said, right, yes, I am okay?
Speaker 2: So the only thing that struck me in your letter,
Speaker 2: if you hadn't said this part, which was he used
Speaker 2: to be affectionate with other people and then he got
Speaker 2: his heart broken, which is the reason he's giving you
Speaker 2: for not having as much.
Speaker 1: Affection as you.
Speaker 2: Is kind of like, oh, so he has the capability,
Speaker 2: but he's chosen to shut down rather than open up.
Speaker 2: So that doesn't make a lot of sense, because if
Speaker 2: he really felt like you were the one and you
Speaker 2: guys are supposed to be together, I would imagine that
Speaker 2: that would be brushed open. And again, you don't really
Speaker 2: we don't really have control over who we fall over.
Speaker 2: That aside, it does sound like you're expecting from him
Speaker 2: what you're giving out, and that's not a fair thing
Speaker 2: to do in a relationship.
Speaker 1: You can't expect the.
Speaker 2: Partner to give you what you want to give, or
Speaker 2: that your partner is going to be great at all.
Speaker 2: Four love languages, like, that's just not realistic.
Speaker 1: Actually, if I.
Speaker 4: Can interject, there are five love languages, and the one
Speaker 4: that you left out, Lana was quality time, which is
Speaker 4: the thing that he is really giving you, and that
Speaker 4: may be the way he expresses his love languages. Started interrupt.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm glad you did.
Speaker 2: I mean, I had no idea that we're five because
Speaker 2: I haven't read that fucking book. I've only heard about
Speaker 2: it NonStop for the last ten years.
Speaker 4: That's the thing is, I think everybody hears like the
Speaker 4: Instagram snippets of it.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm figuring of the four agreements, that's what they're giving. Okay,
Speaker 1: got it.
Speaker 4: But yeah, you know, the thing about the love languages
Speaker 4: is it's about finding out what each person's actually is
Speaker 4: and expressing love to them through that, Like maybe yours
Speaker 4: is more heavily these verbal, little sweet things that he
Speaker 4: might say, and his maybe quality time, so it's just
Speaker 4: a mismatch, and figuring out how to encourage him to
Speaker 4: give you what you need and you to give him
Speaker 4: what he needs.
Speaker 6: Okay, is it wrong to like specifically ask for that?
Speaker 6: Like That's what I've been doing in the past few weeks,
Speaker 6: Because I wrote in this email after we had like
Speaker 6: a little bit of not an argument but a discussion.
Speaker 6: I mean I kind of circled back to him later
Speaker 6: after I kind of decompressed, and I was kind of saying, like,
Speaker 6: growing up, I didn't get verbal affection or physical affection
Speaker 6: for my parents, and just thinking about living my whole life.
Speaker 6: Not getting that is like really sad, so I I've
Speaker 6: been just asking for it, like, hey, like, when you're done,
Speaker 6: can you come here and like give me a cuddle
Speaker 6: or something cuddle me. I don't know if that's not
Speaker 6: romantic or if that's like being needy.
Speaker 4: It's communicating what you need from your partner, and I
Speaker 4: think that's great, and what if he's not able to
Speaker 4: deliver it though?
Speaker 6: Right And there have been times recently where he has
Speaker 6: been so stressed out with being on the job market
Speaker 6: and everything where he has been like, I'm not really
Speaker 6: in the mood to be really affectionate right now. I'll
Speaker 6: spend time with you and we'll have dinner together, but
Speaker 6: I'm not going to be as loving as you want
Speaker 6: me to be right now. And I think as long
Speaker 6: as that's communicated, I'm okay with that. But it is
Speaker 6: still kind of hard to be like, well, what if
Speaker 6: what if there is a perfect person where he would
Speaker 6: act this way towards Well.
Speaker 5: First of all, there's no perfect person, Like there's no
Speaker 5: one that's going to do all the love languages, and
Speaker 5: that's perfect. But at the same time, if you're communicating
Speaker 5: what you need to him and he's not able to
Speaker 5: give that to you. You're young. You can't spend the
Speaker 5: rest of your life feeling like you need something else.
Speaker 5: So I think if there's that hole, and I felt
Speaker 5: it before myself, if you're not if you have needs
Speaker 5: that aren't being met and that's just the character of
Speaker 5: the person that you're with, then it's just a mismatch,
Speaker 5: you know. And again, you're really young. It's fine to
Speaker 5: move on and start over. But if you live a
Speaker 5: hole and it's not being filled, that's never going to
Speaker 5: get filled. You're never going to change someone. If they
Speaker 5: can't do what you're needing them to do, then it's
Speaker 5: just not going to work.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I want to say, I am a little
Speaker 2: bit like I think your boyfriend and I have been
Speaker 2: in relationships with people who have been very needy of
Speaker 2: affection and time and like lots of cuddling and.
Speaker 1: Kissing, and I can give only so much.
Speaker 2: Like it's not a reflection of how I feel about them,
Speaker 2: it's a reflection of like, I'm very comfortable in my
Speaker 2: own space and in my own skin, and when I'm
Speaker 2: needed like that, you know, if I wanted to be
Speaker 2: needed like that, I would have become a mother, Like,
Speaker 2: I don't like when I feel needed, so I can
Speaker 2: kind of relate to you know, it's just a different
Speaker 2: set of importance around you, like what I value. I
Speaker 2: also don't like gifts, like I don't care if I
Speaker 2: ever get a gift in the world. Ya, it doesn't
Speaker 2: matter to me. Those things don't matter. So I'm about
Speaker 2: like I like time spent. That's how I spend time
Speaker 2: with my friends, my family, everyone I love. Is about
Speaker 2: quality time. So I think, you know, there's two sides
Speaker 2: of this argument. I think you are really young and
Speaker 2: twenty four years old. I really think you probably are
Speaker 2: going to want some more experiences in your life, like
Speaker 2: as you I know that's probably not how you're feeling
Speaker 2: right now, but it's really the truth of the matter.
Speaker 2: From three women who are older than you, You're gonna
Speaker 2: want a little bit more experience. It's like she's not
Speaker 2: getting what she needs, so she has to ask what
Speaker 2: she needs. Also, you have to respect that this person
Speaker 2: isn't built like you. You don't have the same brain,
Speaker 2: you don't have the same likes, dislikes, all of that.
Speaker 2: So I think it's somewhere in the middle. You know,
Speaker 2: you have to kind of figure out, like what's make
Speaker 2: or break? How often do you need a hug? And
Speaker 2: if you do really need that all the time, then
Speaker 2: you should find someone who's going to give it to you.
Speaker 6: Right, And back to the point where I said, he
Speaker 6: was saying that he used to be like really loving
Speaker 6: in relationships. That was also back in high school. So
Speaker 6: I don't know if that's like a fair comparison because
Speaker 6: he was saying, Oh, I was getting all this advice
Speaker 6: from girls to text my girlfriend I love you every
Speaker 6: day and good night gorgeous, and he obviously figured out
Speaker 6: that's not what you're supposed to do. So I don't
Speaker 6: know if it's really like trauma why he's closed off,
Speaker 6: or it's just him growing up. But I do think
Speaker 6: it would be good for him to kind of go
Speaker 6: to a therapist and explore that, because I don't know
Speaker 6: if he's really explored that.
Speaker 4: She meant that he also had a loss of someone
Speaker 4: close to him as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that could be it. I mean, but
Speaker 1: you know, is he going to go to therapy? Is
Speaker 1: he open to that? Like, have you discussed that?
Speaker 6: I have discussed that he thinks that he is generally okay,
Speaker 6: and he's like the strong one for all the other
Speaker 6: people in his life, and that he would be open
Speaker 6: to therapy if something bad happened or something traumatic happened.
Speaker 6: But I'm of the belief that anyone could use therapy
Speaker 6: y at all times. So I don't know if you
Speaker 6: can really convince someone of going to therapy without them
Speaker 6: feeling they need.
Speaker 2: To No, and there's no point, like, there's no point
Speaker 2: in forcing somebody to go to therapy. It has to
Speaker 2: be their idea, otherwise they're not going to absorb anything
Speaker 2: that they're going there for.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 6: I almost thought about, you know, now that we're getting
Speaker 6: super serious, I am going to be moving to a
Speaker 6: whole different state with him. We've been together for four
Speaker 6: years and so now it's like finally becoming real, Like I,
Speaker 6: if I do this move with him, next step in
Speaker 6: a few years is maybe getting engaged. And I was thinking, well,
Speaker 6: maybe I should say, like, if I'm going to get
Speaker 6: married to you, I want you to be open to therapy.
Speaker 6: But I don't know if that's a fair ultimatum.
Speaker 2: I think that's fair. I mean, we live in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty three or sometimes twenty twenty four, you know.
Speaker 1: Have you tried golfing.
Speaker 6: He actually used to be on the golf team.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, well he's tried it. We just had a
Speaker 2: golfer Collein. So there's some similarities here. Well not very
Speaker 2: many actually, but I just thought golfing was something that
Speaker 2: I should bring up again as far as.
Speaker 1: The therapy goes.
Speaker 4: Maybe it's you two going together. Maybe there's something there.
Speaker 4: Maybe it's not just like you have to go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good to get a third person involved in
Speaker 2: this because I don't want to qualify you as needy
Speaker 2: because you're saying what you want, which is good, but
Speaker 2: you might be coming across as needy and that might
Speaker 2: be rubbing him the wrong way and then you're creating
Speaker 2: like a chasm.
Speaker 1: So it's like if he.
Speaker 2: Could modify his behavior a little bit and you could
Speaker 2: modify yours and meet in the middle, which would be
Speaker 2: like what would happen in therapy ideally is somebody saying, Okay,
Speaker 2: this is you got to compromise. Then I feel like
Speaker 2: you would have more of a like workable dynamic instead
Speaker 2: of you feeling ignored or slighted.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: I feel like that might be a good option for
Speaker 2: you to bring up. Yeah, especially since you're moving. That's
Speaker 2: a perfect excuse. We're moving to a new state. We've
Speaker 2: never lived here before. There's gonna be lots of pressure,
Speaker 2: there's gonna be lots of opportunity. I want to stay grounded,
Speaker 2: and I would love to have like a wad for
Speaker 2: us to just make sure we're always ahead of our problems.
Speaker 2: You know, therapy is great when you're going through something,
Speaker 2: but it's even better when.
Speaker 1: You have the tools before you go through that.
Speaker 2: So hang your hat on that and make it couch
Speaker 2: it in that, and then when you get in there
Speaker 2: you can get into these issues.
Speaker 5: That's actually really you're so smart, Chelsea.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so too. Right in this moment, I
Speaker 2: was like, Wow, why didn't you think of that earlier?
Speaker 1: Brilliant O. Great problem solved.
Speaker 4: Awesome. Well, Lana, let us know how it goes. Let
Speaker 4: us know how the move goes as well.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we'll do. I really like your idea, Chelsea, because
Speaker 6: we're also going to be living together for the first time,
Speaker 6: so that's also ourwines.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you don't want to screw this up. You
Speaker 1: want to succeed. Blah blah blah blah. Let's go to therapy.
Speaker 6: Right, for sure.
Speaker 3: I like that idea.
Speaker 5: Well, thanks so much for your suggestion.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely awesome.
Speaker 5: Well you know how it goes.
Speaker 1: Okay, take Carolta, good luck, she's a baby.
Speaker 2: I know I wanted to go break up with him, like, fucking,
Speaker 2: it's your twenty four you need to find a new boyfriend.
Speaker 4: I want to be like we all felt so needy
Speaker 4: at twenty four, like.
Speaker 5: Mabe, I know, I know IM married at twenty two.
Speaker 1: Shit, I always forget you were married.
Speaker 5: It's so weird, you know, we don't even talk about it.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I always want to say whenever anyone in
Speaker 5: their twenties ask me for advice, I'm like, whatever, you
Speaker 5: just don't get married, don't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, I mean twenty four years so needy. I
Speaker 2: used to I had a boyfriend. I remember who I
Speaker 2: was talking to over this weekend, actually because he was
Speaker 2: texting me, and I used to beg him like I
Speaker 2: would be like I wanted to sleep at his house
Speaker 2: every night. He lived up the street from me in
Speaker 2: Santa Monica, and I would go over there every night.
Speaker 2: And I remember once he was like, hey, do you
Speaker 2: have to sleep over every single night? And I was
Speaker 2: like yeah, I'm your girlfriend obviously.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: Now as I'm sitting here.
Speaker 2: As a forty eight year old woman, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: how annoying you know to not be able to.
Speaker 1: Go, Oh, sure you need space, let me.
Speaker 2: I won't sleep over a few nights a week that
Speaker 2: if you know, when somebody asks you for space, you
Speaker 2: have to fucking respect that and give them double like
Speaker 2: let them have their space. So yeah, I think there's
Speaker 2: a there's a neediness that comes in your twenties. You
Speaker 2: really want this fairy tale that you think is going
Speaker 2: to happen.
Speaker 5: There is no fairy tale.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like going to the Eiffel Tower.
Speaker 2: I went with my boyfriend and when I was twenty
Speaker 2: one to Paris, and I just had this vision of
Speaker 2: like what our trip was going to be like. And
Speaker 2: he was British and I was still American and I
Speaker 2: was twenty one and he was thirty four. And we
Speaker 2: went to London and we stayed in a hotel room
Speaker 2: and the bathroom was inside the bedroom. There was no
Speaker 2: separate bathroom.
Speaker 1: And I was like, this is not how I yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we didn't speak the entire trip to Paris.
Speaker 2: There were pictures of me alone at the Eiffel Tower
Speaker 2: and him alone at the Eiffel Tower and the Louver
Speaker 2: and every other thing that you saw, and the Champs
Speaker 2: de Les because Princess di had just died there, and
Speaker 2: the Plaza Athonite just us not speaking because I was
Speaker 2: so disappointed in this fantasy that I had created in
Speaker 2: my mind that had never shown proof of life.
Speaker 5: You know what I mean, It's just proof of life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no I mean, we just were not as fantastical.
Speaker 2: When we're older, we get it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, just more real.
Speaker 4: We've been disappointed enough.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: A quick break and we'll be back to wrap.
Speaker 2: And we're back with Lindsay, Vaughn and Catherine to wrap
Speaker 2: up today's episode, which was good. This was a great episode. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you gave good advice, Lindsay gave good advice. Lindsay, you
Speaker 2: look fucking beautiful, by the way, ridiculous. I was just
Speaker 2: sitting there looking at you, going, wow, you're looking real gooding.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, this, this lovely hotel is really making me
Speaker 5: glow over here.
Speaker 2: All Orlando hotels are beautiful, so pretty well, Lindsay, is
Speaker 2: there any advice you'd like from Chelsea?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Do you want any skiing advice for me, lindsay, yes,
Speaker 1: how do you ski?
Speaker 5: So damn well? Chelsea? In your bikini? I've always wanted,
Speaker 5: how do you like not freeze your tits off?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 5: That's what I want to know, because I can't even
Speaker 5: handle being in my ski clothes, let alone like basically naked.
Speaker 5: But that's not my question. That was just something I'm
Speaker 5: curious about. But my actual ques es is how do
Speaker 5: you Cause you love skiing and obviously I love skiing,
Speaker 5: but you work so hard? How do you manage both things?
Speaker 5: Like how do you manage getting time to do what
Speaker 5: you love? And how do you manage being a boss?
Speaker 2: I just I'm like, listen, if I don't get to
Speaker 2: ski for a good solid two months a year, then
Speaker 2: I'm not worth anything the rest of the year. So
Speaker 2: I will work all summer long, I'll tour and I'll
Speaker 2: do that stuff, and then I have to have my
Speaker 2: time to ski because it's just so important for me.
Speaker 2: It's my only real passion besides what I do and
Speaker 2: reading books and stuff like, I love skiing. You know,
Speaker 2: the way you talk about it is the way I
Speaker 2: feel about it. I always want to be on the mountain.
Speaker 2: I always want to get up, and I mean, my
Speaker 2: friends call it like they're just like, you're so ridiculous.
Speaker 2: Like I'm outside my door waiting for them to come
Speaker 2: get me before we go to the and I've got
Speaker 2: my outfit on, like I've got everything ready, my gloves,
Speaker 2: my skis, and my phone, and I'm just sitting there
Speaker 2: waiting at the ski lift. Like at the you know,
Speaker 2: we walk to the little run and I'm just like
Speaker 2: an eager beaver, and they're like, you're just so excited.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I like to go out.
Speaker 2: At eight thirty and get like three or four runs
Speaker 2: before anyone else comes out, and then I like to
Speaker 2: ski with my friends. But I feel like we talked
Speaker 2: about this earlier or the other episode, you know. I
Speaker 2: think for when you're in the public eye and the
Speaker 2: way that we both are, there's so much attention on you,
Speaker 2: and your life is so much about you, and you're
Speaker 2: so self involved that it's so necessary to actually have
Speaker 2: other interests that don't require it being about you. So
Speaker 2: for you, it would probably be something other than skiing
Speaker 2: to do that doesn't remind you of the main.
Speaker 1: Event in your life.
Speaker 2: And I always make sure that I take myself out
Speaker 2: of my comfort zone, and I'm trying different things so
Speaker 2: that I remain normal, like a human being that's constantly
Speaker 2: growing and evolving and not just spinning around in this
Speaker 2: little hubris that is our lives.
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, that's a good point. I mean, I played tennis.
Speaker 5: I love tennis.
Speaker 1: What about golf?
Speaker 2: Have you thought about golfing? I think you should take
Speaker 2: up golf. That feels like the missing hole.
Speaker 1: So many puns in that, so many, so many puns.
Speaker 5: How do you also manage to change the subjects? How
Speaker 5: do you also manage being away from your dogs?
Speaker 1: Well, I mean that's just out of good parenting.
Speaker 2: It's better that they're not with me in Whistler because
Speaker 2: they like to be at home in LA where they
Speaker 2: can go in and out of the house. They just
Speaker 2: prefer that, and I took them to Whistler and they're
Speaker 2: just too old for that. So the next round of
Speaker 2: dogs I get, I will make sure they're younger and
Speaker 2: they're more adept, and then I will bring them to Whistler.
Speaker 2: But I'm just trying not to torture them because last
Speaker 2: time I brought them they were like, what is snow?
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure they're from Mexico, because everything is pointing
Speaker 2: to that. They only understand my bell and they like hot,
Speaker 2: warm weather, so I think that they're Yeah, I think
Speaker 2: they're from South.
Speaker 4: America and one of these mountain dogs that like just
Speaker 4: wants to live in the snow. Maybe it needs like I.
Speaker 2: Need a part time dog for the winter, and then
Speaker 2: I need a dog for summer. That's what I need
Speaker 2: to do to split my time up. Thank you Lindsey
Speaker 2: for taking the time to do this. I really appreciate it,
Speaker 2: and you know I love you and I hope you
Speaker 2: have a great rest of your day in Orlando. I
Speaker 2: think it's going to really be falls to the wall.
Speaker 5: I mean, well, maybe I hit of Disneyland while I'm
Speaker 5: at it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, nothing better than an adults going to Disneyland with
Speaker 2: no children exactly.
Speaker 5: Not creepy at all. Well, thank you, I love you,
Speaker 5: and I appreciate you having me on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you so much.
Speaker 2: We'll speak soon, lindcybye bye, and don't forget everybody. My
Speaker 2: new special Revolution is now streaming on Netflix and it's badass.
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