1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Oh, hello, good afternoon. 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 2: Buenos tardes, I mean buenos I don't even know what 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 2: I mean. 4 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 1: I'm so sick of my bell correcting me in my 5 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:11,799 Speaker 1: fucking Spanish. 6 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 2: I mean, like, she corrects everything I say, but she's 7 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 2: not correcting me to speak proper Spanish. She speaks slang 8 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 2: Spanish admittingly. She says to me, well, this is how 9 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 2: we speak in Mexico. And I'm like, great, but I'm 10 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 2: trying to learn Spanish for Spain and true. And I 11 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 2: also don't want to point out that I don't ever 12 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 2: correct her fucking English, never and never say oh no 13 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 2: that words, those words go in the opposite direction or anything. 14 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 2: But she is riding me like a wave. Oh my gosh, 15 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 2: we will get off my jock. I'm like, do you 16 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 2: want me to learn Spanish? Or don't you if you keep. 17 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 1: Putting up these barriers? Uh? 18 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:52,279 Speaker 2: And she just loves it, though, But I gotta give 19 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 2: it to her, like I know that that must be 20 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 2: satisfying for her to be able to correct me all 21 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 2: the time, tell me what to do. And you asked 22 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 2: her to it, Well, yeah, I said I wanted to 23 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 2: speak Spanish. 24 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 1: You could let me slide a little bit with my grammar. 25 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 2: But you know what I love. I'm such a grammarian. 26 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 2: I care so much about grammar that I really want. 27 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 2: I want to speak proper Spanish anyway, It's just it's 28 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 2: too much of a beginner's Spanish to be there yet. 29 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: Yea, what have I learned this week? I learned about 30 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 1: Cuba and sugar. 31 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 2: Oh, tell me about well, you know, after this, I 32 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 2: learned all about Spain. 33 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 3: Oh. 34 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 2: I have to promote a show April twenty. It's Spokane. 35 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 2: That's the second show we added in Spokane. It's not 36 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 2: quite sold out, so please buy your tickets, you motherfuckers. 37 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 2: And what other shows do I need to promote? Well, 38 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 2: they're all really almost sold out. Red Rocks Amphitheater. That 39 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 2: one's not sold out yet. Red Rocks Amphitheater. That's a 40 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 2: big one, that's like. 41 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: Ten thousand people. 42 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 2: I can't so yeah, go to Chelsea Heler dot com. 43 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 2: There are some tickets for some other shows. But yeah, 44 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 2: and I'm going to add a whole bunch of new 45 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 2: dates I think. 46 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: Sometime this month. 47 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, fantastic. 48 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: It's so hard to figure out where I am. 49 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 2: I thought I was in Cuba, So I learned all 50 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:03,279 Speaker 2: about the Spanish conquering Cuba and then the English conquering Cuba, 51 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 2: and then they had a treaty and they gave Cuba 52 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 2: back to Spain, and then they kept Florida, and then 53 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 2: they kept the Lower Mississippi some areas around there, and 54 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 2: then they discovered sugar during the Atlantic slave trade, which 55 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 2: was started by the English. 56 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: I'd like to say that, make sure. 57 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 2: We keep that mentioned so that people fucking understand history, 58 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 2: because I am so confused about so many things. I 59 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 2: was like, well, didn't we all come from Egypt to 60 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 2: my brother one day He's like, no, you asshole, And 61 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 2: so now I'm reading a book. 62 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 1: Then we all came from Africa. Everybody came from Africa. Yeah, 63 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: So anyway, the sugar. 64 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, so Cuba was the center of sugar for a 65 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 2: long time. Slaves were responsible for all of the prosperity 66 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 2: of the United States, beginning the United States and basically 67 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 2: taking all of the sugar cane, hacking it, cutting it, 68 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 2: transferring it, blah blah blah. 69 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: And so that's when the Atlantic slave. 70 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 2: Trade peaked, was during the sugar I want to say rush, 71 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 2: but I don't think it's called a rush. 72 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 4: I like calling it a sugar rush. 73 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, sugar rush. 74 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 4: That's a different gun. 75 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: That's a difference. That's something too. So yeah, there's that. 76 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 2: And then I'm learning about Neanderthals and Denisovans and Anatolia 77 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 2: and Homo erectus and how we all kind of changed 78 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 2: and when we split off, like right before Homo erectus 79 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 2: we split off, we diverged. One became chimpanzees and the 80 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 2: other became modern humans. Oh my god, short history of 81 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 2: humanity is called I need. 82 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 4: To read what you're reading, because like, as a kid 83 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 4: who grew up going to Christian school, where we had 84 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 4: let's say, a warped and abbreviated version of science, I 85 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 4: didn't even know that like Pangaea existed until I was 86 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 4: in college. I remember saying to a teacher once, why 87 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 4: does it look like the two, you know, halves of 88 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 4: the earth would fit together? And they're like, that's just 89 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 4: a funny thing God did. Like that kind of stuff 90 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 4: was what I grew up. 91 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 2: I also believed that we were Everything was connected, even 92 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 2: the islands, and not all the islands like Sardinia Corsica 93 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 2: were never part of the mainland. 94 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 4: They were just like they were volcanic. 95 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, so they have their own thing going. 96 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 2: So that's interesting too that that would naturally happen, that 97 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 2: there would be elands sprinkled everywhere. 98 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 4: You know, I mean, I guess I got such bad 99 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 4: science education. I didn't even remember the word for continence. 100 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 4: You know, the halves of the world. It's just wild. 101 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is wild. 102 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 2: And you know, you know you read something and you retain. 103 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 2: I'd be interested in my level of retainment. I want 104 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 2: to take tests after every book I read to see 105 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 2: how much I took in. 106 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 4: I think we're trying to send you back to college. 107 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 2: I wouldn't some sort of curriculum quite frankly, Okay, what 108 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 2: do we got. 109 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: What's happening to me? 110 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 4: Well, Chelsea, I had had my. 111 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: Ski buddy on today, but I won't tell you that 112 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:44,359 Speaker 1: is until she's on. 113 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 4: That's very exciting. So, Chelsea, I had an email come 114 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 4: in about Dana, who had called in her step son 115 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 4: was being sort of vaguely creepy and yes, yes, and 116 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 4: she mentioned like he was maybe being able to touch 117 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 4: you peely with her son. And I just thought this 118 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 4: email was so important that I wanted to share it 119 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 4: with you. Heather says, hello, Chelsea, and Catherine, I wanted 120 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 4: to say thank you for providing the audience with the 121 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 4: mother that called in about her steps on she feels 122 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 4: uncomfortable around. While I had no doubt this would be 123 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 4: your response, I truly appreciate you not minimizing the seriousness 124 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 4: of needing to take action to protect her younger son, 125 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 4: self and family. I'm also in awe of the mother's 126 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 4: strength to reach out for advice, because that is so tricky. 127 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 4: I mean, it's like it's this sort of nebulous thing. 128 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 4: My personal story includes eight plus years of a very 129 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 4: close family friend grooming me as a child with uncomfortable touching, 130 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 4: inappropriate sexual conversations for an adult to have with a child, 131 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 4: shower peeping, accidental quote unquote porn exposure, and more. While 132 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 4: rape never occurred, it has left years worth of trauma 133 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 4: response that I'm working through with a great therapist. However, 134 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 4: at the time it was brushed off by others as 135 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 4: creepy old man vibes or that shoulder or waiste touching 136 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 4: wasn't considered a sexual touch even if I didn't want it. 137 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 4: I think I was meant to hear this podcast today 138 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 4: as my therapy session this week was focused on my 139 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 4: continued struggle with not freezing in a moment when someone 140 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 4: touches me in a suggestive but not legally sexual way. 141 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 4: The mother listening to her intuition and taking charge to 142 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 4: keep her young son safe could have a huge impact 143 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 4: on her son's future. It's something I wish would have 144 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 4: happened for myself. Her older steps on clearly also needs support, 145 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 4: and I'm thankful you communicated to prioritize safety of family 146 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 4: while acknowledging his need for help too. It's these conversations 147 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 4: and stories that I hope will help others think differently 148 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 4: on the impact these quote unquote micro traumas can have 149 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 4: over time. Thanks so much for your awesomeness and sharing 150 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 4: both the funny and needed stories of our lives. Heather. 151 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 2: I like how she said micro trauma because I learned 152 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 2: about complex trauma from a friend of mine over the 153 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 2: weekend who I hung out with, and he was telling 154 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 2: me about complex trauma is trauma over time, right, like 155 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 2: neglect or alcoholism or drug addiction, something like that that 156 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:06,919 Speaker 2: you lay witness to. 157 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: If you have a sibling that has a terrible. 158 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 2: Schizophrenia, that would be complex trauma, which is different than 159 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 2: event trauma rights and PTSD is related to event trauma. 160 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 2: But I want to underline the intuition part because more 161 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 2: and more people are talking about intuition and understanding that 162 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 2: it is a very concrete, if. 163 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: Not measurable thing. 164 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 2: And for every woman and man that is listening to 165 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 2: all our gaze. 166 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: You all have it. 167 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 2: We all have intuition. We all have a feeling in 168 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 2: our stomach and our gut. Sometimes it's in your heart, 169 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 2: or it feels like in your heart, but it is 170 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 2: really in your gut when you meet someone, and it's 171 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 2: the exact opposite of the feeling you get when you 172 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 2: know something's wrong, when somebody comes into your space a 173 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 2: person and you know they're dangerous right away you see 174 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 2: that they're sketchy, or that they're unhinged, or that they're unpredictable. 175 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: That feeling right there. 176 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 2: You can also have in the opposite way about something 177 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 2: you should do, or somebody you should move towards, or 178 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 2: a thing that is right, And if you really listen 179 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 2: to yourself, you are going to know what that is. 180 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 2: And we don't talk about intuition in the way that 181 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 2: we need to, because young girls need to trust their intuition. 182 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 2: They need to trust the way that their body feels, 183 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 2: because your body will tell your brain what is happening. 184 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: And it is. 185 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 4: It's such a concrete thing. It's like you when you're 186 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,839 Speaker 4: in a certain situation or you're around someone who makes 187 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 4: you uncomfortable, it turns into a physical reaction. Your stomach 188 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 4: gets in and not your hair goes up on the 189 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 4: back of your neck. 190 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 2: Like trust your changes. The way you're holding yourself and 191 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:48,319 Speaker 2: carrying yourself changes, like. 192 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 4: The body is communicating with you. 193 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 194 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 2: You know, sometimes I fold my arms when I'm in 195 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 2: a conversation and I realize how off putting that is. 196 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 2: Like that's the definition of being defensive, is having your arms, 197 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 2: even if that's a comfortable position for you. That's how 198 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 2: it's kind of received most of the time. And that's 199 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 2: because my body's doing it. My body is saying, oh, 200 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 2: I'm uncomfortable in this conversation, and you have to listen 201 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 2: to those signals or you know, sometimes it's just ego, 202 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 2: like oh they're saying something that I don't like or 203 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 2: in the great. 204 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: Way or whatever. 205 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 2: But yeah, I think that's a great conversation for any 206 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 2: parents listening to have with your young children. Yeah, following 207 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 2: your gut. It is so important, especially with situations like 208 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 2: the ones we're just talking about. 209 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 4: Where it's not illegal, it's not illicit, but it is 210 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 4: something that is having an effect and an impact on 211 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 4: that child or that adult. You know, this can happen 212 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 4: in adult situations as well. One really helpful listener, Tatiana, 213 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,319 Speaker 4: wrote in saying some of the early warning signs of 214 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 4: psychosis are a worrisome drop in grades or job performance, 215 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 4: trouble thinking clearly, suspiciousness or uneasiness with others, a decline 216 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 4: in self care or personal hygiene, spending a lot more 217 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 4: time alone than usual, and strong inappropriate emotions are having 218 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 4: no feelings at all. And I think that's a really 219 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 4: important thing to point out as well, because that age 220 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,439 Speaker 4: they said, like twenty seven right around there, that's kind 221 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 4: of when some mental illnesses will present themselves to people. 222 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 4: So thanks to everyone who wrote in about that. So 223 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 4: I thought this was so important to highlight and really 224 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 4: paying attention to, you know, those little things and if 225 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 4: someone says I'm uncomfortable, like listening to them and seeing 226 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 4: what needs to what Steff's need to be taken. 227 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 2: So okay, So who's our first guest Okay, our first guest. 228 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: We it's our only guest. I forgot that I'm not 229 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: on a TV show right now. Our guest today. 230 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 2: Is a friend of mine, a good friend of mine, 231 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 2: and she's an Olympic gold medalist and she's a skier. 232 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 2: But before I introduce her, I really want to mention 233 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 2: her philanthropy. She has a foundation called a Lindsay Vaughn Foundation, 234 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 2: which empowers underserved girls with camps, scholarships and more. So 235 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 2: please make sure you are aware of that and check 236 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 2: it out. She wrote a great book which everyone should read. 237 00:10:58,760 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: It's called Rise. 238 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,559 Speaker 2: Okay, please welcome Lindsay vat Ah. 239 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 1: There she is, Miss America. 240 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 2: I was hoping that I was gonna interrupt you your 241 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 2: ski day today. 242 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: Where are you? 243 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 5: I'm in Orlando. 244 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know. I have a dilemma. 245 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 2: Actually, I'm glad you brought up Florida because for my 246 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 2: new tour, I was just on the phone with my 247 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 2: agents this morning and they were going over routing for 248 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 2: the fall dates that were going to announce later, and 249 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 2: Florida was on the list. And I said, guys, I 250 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 2: don't know about Florida anymore. 251 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: And they're like, well, do you really want. 252 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 2: To punish the people in Florida, Like you have people 253 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 2: you every time you go, you go to like six 254 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 2: stops of Florida. I'm like, no, I don't. I don't 255 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 2: want to punish the people of Florida. They're being punished enough. 256 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,719 Speaker 2: But I feel like as a statement, I just have 257 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 2: to say fuck off. Like when is enough enough? Like 258 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 2: all of this legislation, Like I feel like DeSantis needs 259 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 2: to know. Certain people aren't going to come. I'm sure 260 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 2: they don't care about me. But if more people do it, 261 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 2: But then there's the argument that you're affecting revenue, you're 262 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 2: affecting people's jobs, you're affecting people's lifestyle. So I don't 263 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 2: really know what the right answer is. If anybody listening 264 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 2: has feelings on this, please DM me. Actually, DM lindsay, 265 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 2: shall I go through them first and then she'll read 266 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 2: them to me? 267 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: What are you doing in Orlando? 268 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 5: I'm speaking, you know, Apparently some people want my advice 269 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 5: for some reason. I don't know. 270 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 2: I believe it. You're a champion. We were just watching 271 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 2: your night race at k I'll say. 272 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: The streef, the streef in cloth kids, fool kids, puel kits. 273 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 5: Fuel Yes, kids fuel the strife. Yes, good job guys. 274 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, and this video is of you skiing the world's 275 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 4: hardest ski run. You were not only the first woman 276 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 4: to do it, but you also did it in the dark, 277 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:47,559 Speaker 4: just to make it more insane. This video is crazy. 278 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 4: I'll put a link to it in the show notes. 279 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 3: It's a hard one. 280 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 5: Honestly, I've not run into one American that has gotten 281 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 5: it right so far. But it's okay. The effort was there. 282 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 5: I appreciate you well. 283 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: It's also a hard line to ski. It's it's not 284 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 1: even a line. 285 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 2: I don't even know what the fuck you would call 286 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:06,079 Speaker 2: what you do, but it is so so hardcore, it's 287 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 2: so bad. As I mean, all my ski buddies from 288 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 2: Whistler who are real ski you know, like they know 289 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 2: how to ski and they are just like you have. 290 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,079 Speaker 2: When that video came out, we must have watched it 291 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 2: like fifteen times. If you haven't seen it, she did 292 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 2: it with Red Bull. You can watch it on Lindsay's Instagram, 293 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 2: which you should be following her anyway, because you put. 294 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: Out great content. 295 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 2: I saw you powder skiing the other day and I 296 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:26,959 Speaker 2: wanted to ask you, how do you because if you 297 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 2: spent your life training, you know, downhill and solom and 298 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 2: all the stuff that you do, do you spend a 299 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 2: lot of time in powder before you retire? 300 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 5: Oh No, I never powder skied because I was so 301 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,599 Speaker 5: worried that I would hurt myself. And some of the 302 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 5: other athletes would go powder skiing, like if our race 303 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 5: was canceled because of so much No, you know, definitely, 304 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 5: I would say some of the girls would go, like 305 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 5: people that are from California that grew up skiing powder, 306 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 5: But I didn't grow up skiing powder. I'm from Minnesota. 307 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:02,319 Speaker 5: There's not one powder day in the entire season. It's 308 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:05,439 Speaker 5: mostly man man and you're cool as hell. So I 309 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,719 Speaker 5: just I love skiing, you know, and it's powder is 310 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:12,439 Speaker 5: a lot easier on my knees. And while it's not 311 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:15,719 Speaker 5: something that you know, I've grown up with, I just 312 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 5: I love it and it's fun and it's the most 313 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 5: exciting thing that I can do outside of racing. 314 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, powder skiing is really fucking fun. And you know 315 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 2: what is so fun about it, or so funny about 316 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 2: it is that when you learn how to ski technically, 317 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 2: as Lindsay can speak to way more than I can. 318 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: But from what little I've gleaned. 319 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 2: Everything you learn about regular skiing goes out the window. 320 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 2: When you ski powder, you know, you're not on an agle, 321 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 2: you're not turning, You're bouncing like a bunny rabbit through 322 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,479 Speaker 2: the snow and just like hopping like boom boo boo. 323 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like leaning back. It's the exact opposite that 324 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 5: any instructor would ever teach you. It's all just lean 325 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 5: back and ride the wave. It's like surfing. It's pretty 326 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 5: funny because your point is the exact opposite of what 327 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 5: you've been told, what you've been taught, and just throw 328 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 5: it all out the window. Yeah. 329 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well you've been through a lot and you've been 330 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 2: injured a lot, and I want to talk a little bit. 331 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 2: I know you. 332 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: Lindsay wrote a. 333 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 2: Great book about her whole life, her autobiography, and in 334 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 2: it you talk a lot about your recoveries from many 335 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 2: different accidents, and I want to know obviously you were 336 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 2: mentally tough. You couldn't survive all of this and continue 337 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 2: to go back out there, especially what you just skied, 338 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 2: and kidspoel like. 339 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: Why would you do that? 340 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 2: You said, I mean, I think you said you had 341 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 2: like your surgery ready to go in case you did 342 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 2: wipe out and hurt yourself. 343 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: Is that true? 344 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I'm getting my knee replaced, so I 345 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 5: figured this was a perfect time to do it, because 346 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 5: if I crash and I need surgery, I'm getting it anyway, 347 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 5: so I don't mind risking it. But I've had my 348 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 5: fair share of surgeries. I mean, you've hurt your knee, 349 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 5: you know, you know the deal. But I don't think 350 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 5: it's ever impacted my passion for ski racing or for 351 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 5: skiing in general. I just love the mountain. I just 352 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 5: wish it had been a little bit easier on my body. 353 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 5: But I don't have any regrets. You know, despite the 354 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 5: fact that I limp around most of the time, I 355 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 5: still wouldn't change anything. 356 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about the mindset that allows you to 357 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 2: do that, because you work out really hard, so I 358 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 2: know your body's been beaten up, but you still have 359 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 2: a significant amount of strength left and determination in order 360 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 2: to keep all of that going, which I think is 361 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 2: really vital for I think all women, you know what 362 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 2: I mean, with like our physicality, It's like you get 363 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 2: an injury and you can. 364 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: Be so down on yourself. 365 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 2: First of all, it's depressing and you're immobile, and then 366 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 2: you're taking pills and you're you know, you're trying to 367 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 2: recuperate and all of that is like a real negative 368 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 2: downer on you. So to be able to pick yourself 369 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 2: back up that from that, not once, but repeatedly is 370 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 2: very admirable. 371 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: And to keep going. 372 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 2: You know, I know a lot of people who get 373 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 2: into an accident, they don't want to ever do that 374 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 2: thing again. And it's like, oh, I want to do 375 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 2: that thing right away again because I don't want to 376 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 2: be scared of it. 377 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly. I mean I think to your point, a 378 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 5: lot of people can get down and I got very down. 379 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 5: I mean I got really depressed when I was injured. 380 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 5: I missed the Olympics. I was injured back to back acls, 381 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 5: which took me out for almost two years in a row. 382 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 5: And it's really hard to find anything positive, you know, 383 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 5: when you especially when you repeatedly get injured, like what 384 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 5: am I doing? 385 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 3: You know? 386 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 5: Why am I doing this? And it's hard to find 387 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 5: the motivation. But I think for me it always goes 388 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 5: back to passion, you know why I love ski racing 389 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 5: and I've always had and that's why I kept doing 390 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 5: it and kept coming back, but it doesn't make the 391 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 5: recovery any easier. You know, it's always with rehab, it's 392 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 5: always two steps forward, one step back, and sometimes one 393 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 5: step forward two steps back. You know, it's a very monotonous, long, 394 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 5: slow grind, and I just have learned through repetition that 395 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 5: you just have to stick to it and keep going, 396 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 5: you know, keep putting one foot in the front in 397 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 5: front of the other, and that's the only thing you 398 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:57,360 Speaker 5: can do, honestly. 399 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 2: And your transition since you've retired has been You're still 400 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 2: really involved with the US ski team. You're still really 401 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 2: involved in skiing. You're skiing with people all the time 402 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 2: in Utah Vale or you know, all over the place, 403 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 2: I guess. 404 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 1: And so tell me it. 405 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 2: Talk to me a little bit about that transition for you, 406 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 2: because I know, as an athlete or I don't know, 407 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 2: I can imagine how difficult it must be to say 408 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 2: goodbye to that part of your life. But in a 409 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 2: way you've kind of extended it in a way that 410 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 2: we haven't seen many people do publicly. 411 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I definitely felt like when I retired, 412 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 5: a part of me died, you know, it was something 413 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 5: where I knew I could never go back, and I've 414 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 5: been doing it my entire life. I've been skiing since 415 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 5: I was two and a half years old. And after 416 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 5: I retired, I woke up and what I loved to 417 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 5: do every day was suddenly gone, and I had to 418 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 5: really figure out, Okay, what is it about ski racing 419 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 5: that I loved? I love being on the mountain. So 420 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 5: it took me about a year and a half, but 421 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 5: I got back out there and I relearned my passion 422 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 5: for the sport as a whole, and I enjoyed skiing 423 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 5: with my family, with my friends. I've gone to places 424 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 5: now that I've been many times before, but I've never 425 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 5: actually skied. I've been to Courschevelle, I've rached there many, many, 426 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 5: many times, but I've never been anywhere other than the 427 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 5: race trail. So I got to go back and explore 428 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 5: the mountain and you know, find my passion again. And 429 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 5: I think, you know, for me, I don't like sitting 430 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,360 Speaker 5: still downhill. I always had adrenaline and that was really 431 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 5: hard to replace. But I've found ways to challenge myself 432 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 5: and you know, push myself now in business and just 433 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 5: keep again, like waking up every day with a new challenge, 434 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 5: and that's been exciting. It's you know, I feel like 435 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 5: there's so many opportunities and I'm excited for the future. 436 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: To be honest, yeah, I know. 437 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 2: I like watching what you've been doing in the last 438 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 2: couple of years. And we've known each other for a 439 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 2: long time actually, and it feels like you have really 440 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 2: found your groove and like all of these opportunities, your philanthropy, 441 00:19:56,840 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 2: your foundation, and all of the business opera tunities that 442 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 2: you have cultivated for yourself is a great model I 443 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 2: think for a lot of younger athletes who are probably 444 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 2: looking going, oh, she made this like so seamless, you know. 445 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 5: Well, it's definitely wasn't seamless. I mean, I can't tell 446 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 5: you how hard it was. You know, as a ski racer, 447 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 5: we don't we don't make money. There's no money in 448 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 5: ski racing. So I had to really work hard to 449 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 5: make a business for myself. And my dad always made 450 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 5: me aware when I was younger that if I wanted 451 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 5: to be successful, I had to be more than an athlete, 452 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 5: and so I always took that approach. I always want 453 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 5: the extra mile. I always did all the interviews, you know, 454 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 5: I was really careful with my sponsorships, what partnerships I chose, 455 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 5: always thinking long term. And I was actually made fun of. 456 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:44,199 Speaker 5: You know, a lot of people were like, why are 457 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 5: you spending so much time with this, You know, you're 458 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 5: distracted from your racing, And I said, no, I can 459 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 5: do both. I can win races, I can have my 460 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 5: own business. I can be successful on multiple levels at 461 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 5: the same time. And I think, you know, just believing 462 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 5: in myself and not listening to anyone else was was 463 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 5: the best thing that I could do, because I wouldn't 464 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 5: be anywhere if I'd listened to every single person that 465 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 5: said I wouldn't do anything, or couldn't be anything, or 466 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 5: you know, couldn't multitask. Women are great multitaskers. 467 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 2: I think, you know, fucking tell me about it. I mean, honestly, like, 468 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 2: women are so much better. When I was at the 469 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 2: doctors this morning, and I would ask him one question 470 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 2: and then he just stopped everything he was doing to 471 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 2: answer the question. And I looked at him and I 472 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 2: wanted to say, keep keep keep going, like don't we 473 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 2: don't have to do separate things, like you can work 474 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 2: and talk, can't. 475 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 1: You after like get it together? 476 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 2: I mean, women are just like you know, you're eating 477 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 2: a hard boiled egg, feeding your dog, getting on a plane, like, 478 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 2: we're doing a million things at once. And it's so 479 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 2: crazy to me that they cannot talk and think at. 480 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: The same time. 481 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 5: They can't even fathom what we do. It's pretty n no. 482 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 1: I know your mom was a big influence on you. 483 00:21:56,280 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 2: I know you posted something today about her and her 484 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 2: determination and how she inspired you and showed you what 485 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 2: determination looked like. 486 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: So talk to me a little bit about that. 487 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 5: I mean, I think my mom impacted me in more 488 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 5: ways than I even really truly understand now, and I 489 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 5: think now that she's passed away, it's been a few months, 490 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 5: and you know, I still always reflect on what she 491 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 5: showed me. My mom had a stroke when she gave 492 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 5: birth to me, and she wasn't able to do physically 493 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 5: the things with me that I would have loved to 494 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 5: do with her, like ski She couldn't ride a bike. 495 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 5: The only thing she really could do what she loved 496 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 5: was swimming, which I'm ironically horrible at I think like 497 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 5: a rock. But you know, my mom always tried and 498 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 5: she failed, but she always tried. She would try to 499 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 5: ride a bike and I would watch your fall over 500 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 5: and over and over again. But she always got back up, 501 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 5: and she always tried, and she always had a smile, 502 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 5: and she always was positive. And even when you know, 503 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 5: she was in her hospital bed and she couldn't move 504 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 5: her arms or legs, she was positive and she said, 505 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 5: you know, today is another great day. And it got 506 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 5: harder and harder, but she never lost that perspective. And 507 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 5: I felt like when I was injured, I was lucky 508 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 5: to have the opportunity to try again. You know, my 509 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 5: mom didn't have that opportunity because of her stroke. So 510 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 5: I think throughout my career it's always given me a 511 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 5: different sense of gratefulness that I think, you know, sometimes 512 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 5: we lose sight of. I'm lucky to follow my passion 513 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 5: every single day. I'm lucky that I'm walking and I'm 514 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 5: you know, while I hate running, I could run if 515 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 5: I wanted to. It could always be worse, and you know, 516 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 5: we just have to be positive. And that's always what 517 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 5: my mom taught me. And I'm very grateful for her influence. 518 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 5: And again, well I didn't really fully understand it when 519 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 5: I was growing up. I certainly understood it now, and 520 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,239 Speaker 5: I wish i'd had a little more time with her 521 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 5: to be able to share more things with her. 522 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think you continue to understand it the 523 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 2: longer we're without our moms. You know, when my mom 524 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,959 Speaker 2: passed away, I certainly was too young to even understand 525 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,719 Speaker 2: on the impact. I remember be talking in this interview 526 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 2: about somebody asking me why I'm so strong, And I 527 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 2: remember talking because I saw the way my mother and 528 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 2: my dad's dynamic was and I didn't like that. And 529 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 2: that is just so diminishing to my mother, because my 530 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 2: mother sacrificed so much, you know, to be our mother 531 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 2: to not you know, she didn't get to live and 532 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,239 Speaker 2: pursue her dreams the way that I'm able to live 533 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 2: and pursue my dreams. 534 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: The reason I'm able to do that. 535 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 2: Is because of my mother. And so I remember I 536 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 2: was reading this book recently. It's called The Seven Deadly Sins. 537 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 2: We're having this author on She's awesome, and it just 538 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 2: talks about how we don't give our mothers enough credit 539 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 2: for even just the time that they grew up and 540 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 2: the time that they raised us in It was so 541 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 2: prohibitive for them. Yet here are people that are able 542 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 2: to like live out their dreams and go after what 543 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 2: they want because our mothers were available to give us 544 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 2: the allowance and the freedom to do that, and if 545 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 2: they hadn't sacrificed what they had. And I don't think 546 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 2: that's even just beginning to sink in for me. But 547 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 2: I do feel like we talk a lot about, you know, 548 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 2: people who have passed on on the show, and you know, 549 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 2: I'm not sure how spirritual you are, but I know 550 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 2: that you're open minded. And I feel like my relationship 551 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 2: with my mother since she died is stronger than it 552 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 2: was when we were together on this earth. And there 553 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 2: are so many moments where I just feel her presence 554 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 2: so much guiding me and steering me, like in this 555 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 2: very sagacious, worldly way, which she was not like when 556 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 2: I was growing up. But that's exactly who she was, 557 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 2: according to my brothers and sisters. I just never had 558 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 2: the patience or the time to find that out about 559 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 2: my mother, you know, because by the time she had. 560 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: Me, she was older. 561 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 2: So I have to say, like, the idea that relationships 562 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 2: can even strengthen beyond them being here on earth, I 563 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 2: totally believe to be true. And I hope you feel 564 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,640 Speaker 2: that too, and are open to those signs and signals 565 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 2: and like, you know, the stillness sometimes when you feel 566 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 2: another person's presence is really just so powerful. 567 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 4: Yeah. 568 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 5: And my mom actually lost her mom when she was 569 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 5: young as well, and when she was in the hospital, 570 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 5: she said, I want you after I'm gone, to talk 571 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 5: to me as if I'm there, and I will be 572 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 5: there and I will listen, just like my mom was 573 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 5: there listening to me. And it gave me a lot 574 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 5: of comfort. And you know, I when I ever I 575 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 5: want to call her, I just I just talked to her. 576 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 5: She's there. 577 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, she is. Yeah, it's so sweet. I believe 578 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 1: that our moms are there. 579 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 2: Hopefully they're hanging out and your mom isching my mom something, 580 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 2: you know, hopefully. 581 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: Listening to the podcast right now. Blah blah, crying. 582 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 2: Okay, anyway, thank you for sharing, Thank you for being candid. 583 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 2: I feel like we just had this moment. 584 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: We did. 585 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:39,880 Speaker 5: We were. 586 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: Last time we saw each other. 587 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 2: We were on the Kelly Clarkson Show or no, was 588 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 2: it Kelly class was Kelly Clark with Wolfgang Fuck And 589 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 2: we were talking about her book and she started crying, 590 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 2: and then of course I started crying because it's contagious 591 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 2: and so now we're just crying whenever we see each other. 592 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,360 Speaker 1: Okay, So, anyway, we're going to take some callers. 593 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 2: We're gonna call in and we're gonna give them some advice, 594 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 2: and we've curated this episode to suit things that you would. 595 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 1: Have experience with. 596 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 4: Yes, okay, and we'll take a break and grab some 597 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 4: cleanex and be right back. 598 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 2: And we're back. 599 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: We'refrect Are we ready to continue? 600 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 3: We're doing okay? 601 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,400 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, okay, i'd be great. 602 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 4: Well, our first question comes from Rachel in Denver, and 603 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 4: she obviously, somehow a month before we talked about getting 604 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 4: you on the show, knew that you were going to 605 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 4: come on. 606 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 1: She manifested it. 607 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 4: And so she says thank you in advance for reading 608 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 4: my letter. I'm hoping Lindsay Vaughn makes an appearance on 609 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 4: the podcast, so this question is written to both Chelsea 610 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 4: and Lindsay. Dear Chelsea and Lindsay. I'm a thirty three 611 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 4: year old single female living in the Denver area of 612 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 4: Colorado with my dog Hide. My main hobbies are mountain 613 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 4: biking and skiing, but I love staying active in general. 614 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 4: A year ago, I ended a toxic long term relationship. 615 00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 4: Even though it was a crazy past year, I was 616 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 4: actually able to achieve one of my life goals, which 617 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 4: was buying a second house and turning both of my 618 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 4: houses into airbnbs. It's been incredible to make the leap 619 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 4: and finally do what I've been dreaming of. Owning and 620 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,400 Speaker 4: running these two businesses while still having my full time job. 621 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 4: Has allowed me to start saving for my second life goal, 622 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 4: which is to take a mini retirement before I'm forty 623 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 4: so I can travel the world mountain biking and skiing. 624 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 4: This leads me right. 625 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 1: I love that. 626 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 4: This leads me to my first question, which is what 627 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 4: are your tips for being a single, solo female traveler. 628 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 4: I want to be able to make new friends and 629 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 4: ski and mountain bike wherever I travel to. In particular, 630 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 4: how can I make friends with guys who like these 631 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 4: activities without looking like I'm interested in them. My second 632 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 4: question is do you have any recommendations on a good 633 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 4: ski jacket and bib Combo. I've had my same ski 634 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 4: outfit since college and it's starting to fall apart. I 635 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 4: took Chelsea's advice and got some heated gloves this season. 636 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 4: They've been life changing, so I'm curious what ski apparel 637 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,040 Speaker 4: brands you like best. I want to look good a 638 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 4: really warm while out there. 639 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 3: Rachel. 640 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 2: Okay, well, let me answer the last part first, because 641 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 2: Lindsay sent me her fucking suit which is called core 642 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 2: right by it it's by Head, but Lindsay designed it. 643 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 2: This is the best ski suit I have ever had. 644 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 2: It's two pieces, but it has it's Is it gore 645 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 2: tex or is it something stronger than gortex, because I. 646 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 5: Think I think it's something similar but stronger. 647 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I have gortex suits and they're not like this, 648 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 2: and I love Arctarics, that's what I usually wear. This 649 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 2: is better than Arctarics. This not only keeps the cold 650 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 2: the wet out, it keeps the wind out. It's somehow 651 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 2: fucking windproof this suit. And Whistler has very strange weather patterns, 652 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 2: so there's a lot of really like Arctic blasts, and 653 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 2: it gets really cold. 654 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: Most people don't like to ski in that. I love that, 655 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: but this keeps me warm. 656 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 2: And this scuit, I mean this suit, Lindsay. Everyone stopped me. 657 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,239 Speaker 2: I've never worn a suit so many days in a row, 658 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 2: and then I wore this suit. 659 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 5: I know, I actually noticed that I'm like, Wow, she 660 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 5: doesn't stop worrying it. She must like it because you 661 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 5: normally change like every single day, which I do too, 662 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 5: so I get it. But I appreciate the support. That 663 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 5: was like a great that was a great ad life. 664 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 1: It's just the best suit. And I'm not full of shit. 665 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 5: I love it so much, like I you literally wouldn't 666 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 5: wear it if you didn't like it. 667 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: I know that, Yes, you do know that. 668 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 2: And I'll just all the details, even around the knees, 669 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 2: like that little roushing and then like the bottom couffs, everything, 670 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 2: the pockets. 671 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: Everything is perfect on this jacket. 672 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 2: And when you ski, like you know, if you're protecting 673 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 2: the back of your helmet, which I learned like how 674 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 2: to keep you know, you always want to trap heat 675 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 2: when it's really cold. This suit is just like it's 676 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 2: almost like a NASA suit. That's how I felt like. 677 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 2: I just felt tougher. So everybody who anybody who's listening 678 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 2: that wants to ski, yeah, please look into her. Go 679 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 2: find Does it come in different colors or is that 680 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 2: one color? 681 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 5: Yeah? I think it's it's in like forest green and 682 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 5: baby blue and yellow and black. Oh great, Oh perfect, 683 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 5: that's nice. Y, So I'll have to send you some 684 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 5: more colors so you can rotate instead of just having 685 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 5: every single day. Although green's my favorite color, so I 686 00:30:58,280 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 5: do think you look great at that. 687 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a pretty color. And let me know how 688 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 1: that knee surgery goes. 689 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 2: Also, because I'm interested in possibly replacing my knees at 690 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 2: some point both of them. 691 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 5: Yes you should. I mean I know a lot of 692 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 5: people that have had it, and they've all raved about it, 693 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 5: so I am very excited. I'm always limited with what 694 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 5: I can do physically because of my knee, and I'm 695 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 5: excited to hopefully not have that in the future. 696 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 2: Plus, you're so good at recovering from surgeries, like this 697 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 2: is going to be a please from you. 698 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 5: I can do my own rehab. 699 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 4: Yeah. 700 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: Okay, So the first part of that woman's question. 701 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, So the first part was how does she get 702 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 2: into groups and meet guys without there thinking they're into them? 703 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 1: I don't, right, Well, that's a separate issue. The first issue. 704 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 1: First of all, you should join Strata if you have it. 705 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 2: If you're not on Strata, because that's a great bike 706 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 2: riding community where you can compare speeds, meet people, talk 707 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 2: to people who. 708 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: Are in the area that you're going to. 709 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 2: If you don't want to go on these adventures by yourself, 710 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 2: there's always cycling groups. You know, in my Orca, I know, 711 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 2: there's tons of cycling groups that you can join as 712 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 2: a single person and find people that are also going 713 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 2: to be single, so that you're never really alone traveling, 714 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 2: because I think as a female it is more important 715 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 2: to always surround yourself with some people that are going 716 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 2: to be there, you know, whether they're friends or not. 717 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 2: It's just better not to be alone as a woman 718 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,959 Speaker 2: in some some parts of the world, like the United States. 719 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 2: So I would definitely do that joint strati if you're 720 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 2: not already on that. And all of these activities you're 721 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 2: talking about, whether it's skiing or whether it's biking, you 722 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 2: could always find these groups too, Like you know, there's 723 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 2: there's always like a social aspect for skiing. 724 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 5: There's also like in Portillo, Chili, there's you know, groups 725 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 5: that come down. There's also singles women's week. You know, 726 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,959 Speaker 5: there's most ski resorts have you know, either a singles 727 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 5: week or a women's only week. You know, there's a 728 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 5: ton of groups that you can travel with and meet 729 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 5: up with, so you're not by yourself, but you're with 730 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 5: people that are equally excited to do what you want 731 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 5: to do. 732 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's the easy part. 733 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 2: So get your ski suit, go on your trips, join 734 00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 2: all these clubs, and then come back with a husband 735 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 2: or ye per excellent, excellent. 736 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 4: Well, our next question comes from Miranda, and she's going 737 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 4: to be joining us here on the zoom. She's twenty eight. 738 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 4: Dear Chelsea, I'm a female golfer and constantly on the 739 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 4: golf course men make sexist comments toward me and my 740 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 4: female friends. I usually just laugh off their quote unquote jokes, 741 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 4: but it bothers me so much to the point where 742 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 4: it negatively affects my game and my desire to get 743 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 4: on the course. I've asked a couple of women in 744 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 4: my life for advice about this, but there are never 745 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 4: any concrete ideas. I feel like Chelsea would have good 746 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 4: tips on how I can put these men in their 747 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 4: place or not let it affect me as much as 748 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 4: it does. It happens almost every round that we get 749 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 4: paired with older men. I absolutely love golf, but this 750 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 4: aspect of it fills me with such anxiety that I 751 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 4: wonder of continuing to play is even worth it? Miranda? 752 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: Hi, Miranda, Hello, how's it going good. 753 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 2: Our special guest is Lindsay Vaughan. So you have heard 754 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 2: today to give you advice as well. 755 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 3: How are you good? How are you good? I normally 756 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 3: cheer for Team Canada that I can make an exception 757 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 3: to them. 758 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: I think you'll have to. 759 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, anyway, you're right, you're right. 760 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 1: Well, Lindsay, do you want to start this one? Because 761 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 1: I feel like you've probably had a lot of experience 762 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:15,879 Speaker 1: with this kind of thing. 763 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, I definitely have. I honestly I enjoy it. I 764 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 5: use it to my advantage and I love also self deprecation. 765 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,360 Speaker 5: So you know, whatever guys throw at me, I usually 766 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 5: make some self deprecating comment back, or you know, I 767 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 5: hit them with I kind of flip it around on them, 768 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 5: or you know, I don't know. I just find that 769 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 5: the more I use it as like a positive, I 770 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,839 Speaker 5: always performed better when I was keying when people made 771 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,359 Speaker 5: fun of me, especially men. I mean, I've been made 772 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,399 Speaker 5: fun of for literally everything, and I'm still being made 773 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,399 Speaker 5: fun of, which is kind of insane. Like I got 774 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 5: comments because I was wearing a tight one piece suit 775 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 5: the other day and someone that I've known for a 776 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,800 Speaker 5: long time made a comment about how tight my suit was, 777 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,720 Speaker 5: and I was like, you know what, the guy's just jealous, 778 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 5: you know, he's you know, you know, they're jealous of 779 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 5: what I have. And and again I don't take it personally, 780 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 5: which is obviously easier said than done. But however, you 781 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 5: can flip it, whether it's in your mind or it's 782 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 5: a comment back to them, the better, and you know, 783 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:23,840 Speaker 5: you again use it to your advantage. 784 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good point. 785 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that. I like the idea of using 786 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 1: it to fuel you. 787 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 2: I mean, listen, if you're talking to me, obviously I'm 788 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 2: just gonna go off on that guy and they're never 789 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 2: going to say another thing to me. 790 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 5: Again, I knew that was coming. 791 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 2: I can't give you the language to do that, but 792 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 2: I mean, you just give a dish up what they're 793 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,720 Speaker 2: dishing up right back at them. Because men can't handle 794 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 2: what they say to women. They can't fucking handle it. 795 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 2: They're sensitive and they're insecure. 796 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:48,720 Speaker 3: Secure. 797 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:50,760 Speaker 1: You wouldn't be making. 798 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 2: Fun of somebody unless you were insecure, you know what 799 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 2: I mean, especially when you haven't done anything to deserve that. 800 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 1: You're golfing. 801 00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 3: I know, I feel like by me not saying anything, 802 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,760 Speaker 3: it almost compromises my comfort just to almost protect theirs, 803 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 3: which which I hate. And the annoying thing is it 804 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 3: normally happens when like I normally only golf with one friend, 805 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 3: and when you only book a tea time for two people, 806 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 3: they always pair you with two other people, and it's 807 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 3: always two older men that are saying stuff to us 808 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 3: the entire time. So it's basically four hours of this. 809 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 3: Sometimes they're great, and sometimes the groups are horrible, and 810 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:24,880 Speaker 3: like they say stuff to us right when we start, 811 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 3: and then it just puts me in a shitty mood 812 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 3: for the whole day. But yeah, you're right. 813 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 5: Also, the question is like why golf? I feel like 814 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 5: there could be a better sport. 815 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:39,799 Speaker 1: No, let's deconstruct this even more. 816 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:40,919 Speaker 3: That's a good point. 817 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 1: I think it's that you're playing golf. 818 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 3: That's a good point. I took it up during COVID. 819 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 3: You know what you get outside, you have some drinks, 820 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,360 Speaker 3: riding in a car. It's very fun. I find it relaxing. 821 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like you need to get two more 822 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 1: friends though to do it. 823 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not. Your day isn't ruined every day by 824 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,919 Speaker 2: these two idiots. So A, get some other friends, rope 825 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,279 Speaker 2: them into golfing. Actually, A I and find a different sport. B. 826 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 2: If you're going to stick to golfing, rope some other 827 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 2: friends in so you don't have to deal with two 828 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:06,360 Speaker 2: guys you don't know. 829 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:07,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I have done that. 830 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 1: And see, make sure you give it back to them. 831 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. They will cower as soon 832 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 1: as you level it up. 833 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 2: Men, understand that the dynamic is shift. As long as 834 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 2: you're not saying anything, they're going to keep going in 835 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 2: on you. It's like a bully. And as soon as 836 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,799 Speaker 2: you turn around and say, hey, like this guy said 837 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,920 Speaker 2: to me the other day, these guys invited me, helly skiing? 838 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,399 Speaker 2: I said, no, my knee's really blown, like my knee 839 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 2: was too swollen. 840 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,800 Speaker 1: I go, my knee hurts. He goes, oh, your knee hurts, 841 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,439 Speaker 1: like oh yeah, And I don't want to be seen 842 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 1: skiing like you see. That's good? 843 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 5: Right, So good? 844 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:37,399 Speaker 1: That was over. 845 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 2: That conversation ended, and he never came back around. If 846 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 2: I hadn't done that, he would have continued on and 847 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 2: on and on. But it's good to just kind of 848 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,359 Speaker 2: get some stuff in your arsenal that you could throw 849 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,840 Speaker 2: back at them. And with men, it's really not that difficult, 850 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 2: Like you don't have to be that prepared for what 851 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:53,879 Speaker 2: they're talking about. 852 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 3: No, you know, yeah, you're very right. They're always the 853 00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,760 Speaker 3: stupidest jokes too. They're not funny at all. They're all terrible. 854 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 3: It's never it's like if you're gonna make a joke too, 855 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,239 Speaker 3: to make it a little bit funny entertaining something though, 856 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,719 Speaker 3: it's always like a guy puts the ball not very 857 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 3: far and he says to his friend like, oh, you 858 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 3: hit that one with your purse, so stupid. 859 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. 860 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 5: You can come up with some good, good lines in return. 861 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I can come up with something better than that. 862 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:18,960 Speaker 3: But it's just I feel like it always throws me 863 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 3: off guard every time, which is so strange because I 864 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 3: should be used to it by now. 865 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:23,880 Speaker 2: Well, then you have to get more prepared. You have 866 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 2: to go in there more prepared with the mission. Like today, 867 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 2: I'm going to give it back. I'm going to serve 868 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 2: it right back up to them, And just think about 869 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 2: every woman that you are helping by you using your voice, 870 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:34,920 Speaker 2: because the next time they run into a woman like 871 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 2: you they're going to be much less likely to harass her. 872 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 1: So if you need that as an extra motivation, use it. 873 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:41,719 Speaker 3: That's a good point. 874 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 4: And to your point, they're going to say the same 875 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,319 Speaker 4: jokes every time, so you're not gonna have to come 876 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 4: up with that many like clapbacks. 877 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,840 Speaker 2: Right, yeah, oh it looks like you hit that with 878 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:52,400 Speaker 2: your purse. You can say what it looks like you 879 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 2: hit that with one of your balls. There's lots of 880 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,920 Speaker 2: old man bald jokes that you can make, or you know, 881 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 2: intellect jokes, or the fact that we're in the year 882 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:02,439 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four? 883 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:07,920 Speaker 1: Is it twenty three? Yeah, don't take next year that 884 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:09,320 Speaker 1: I've been thinking it was twenty. 885 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 2: Twenty four for like two years already. I don't know 886 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,800 Speaker 2: what i'm smoking. Well, we all know what i'm smoking 887 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 2: at that's a given. Also, try smoking pot while you're 888 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,279 Speaker 2: at the golf course. You won't give a shit about 889 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,399 Speaker 2: anything then true about what they're saying. You'll be really 890 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:23,439 Speaker 2: focused on your game. 891 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, Normally the drinking comes into play and it 892 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,240 Speaker 3: makes it a little easier, but it's just more annoying 893 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 3: than anything. It's just irritating that people are still saying 894 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 3: things like this. 895 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, but definitely don't let anyone decide like how you're 896 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:36,480 Speaker 2: going to spend your time. You're not going to knock 897 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,839 Speaker 2: golf because guys are there. You're going to make sure 898 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:39,280 Speaker 2: that you're. 899 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:40,839 Speaker 1: Going to golf. You know what I mean? That you're 900 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 1: going to be fine when guys are around. 901 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,320 Speaker 3: Right, as long as I don't pick another sport before then. 902 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,320 Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean try volleyball or something that seems 903 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 1: going to be the. 904 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 3: Team sports are Okay, I got a couple of those 905 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 3: on lock. But you know this is good for summer. 906 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:54,320 Speaker 3: It's good for summer. 907 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, good, yeah, awesome. 908 00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 4: Well Branda, please let us know what kind of come 909 00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:02,239 Speaker 4: back to come up with and how it goes next time. 910 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 3: All right, Well, do can I say one thing before 911 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 3: I leave? Chelsea and Catherine. I thought of you guys 912 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 3: the other day because me and my friends were on 913 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 3: our way to a ski trip and my friend decided 914 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,759 Speaker 3: she would eat her breakfast in the car and it 915 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 3: consisted of hard boiled eggs, and right before I turned around, 916 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:20,800 Speaker 3: I saw her about to open the container and I 917 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:22,920 Speaker 3: prevented it from happening. But I could not believe she 918 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 3: was gonna eat them in the car. 919 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,319 Speaker 4: I could not believe that in the privacy of her 920 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:27,960 Speaker 4: car of car. 921 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 5: It was our car. 922 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,479 Speaker 3: I was, my boyfriend was driving. I was in the front. 923 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 2: Let's catch Lindsay up on this so she's aware, Lindsay. 924 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 2: It was revealed to me late last year, in twenty 925 00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 2: twenty three, that Catherine travels regularly on planes with a 926 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 2: ziploc bag of hard boiled eggs that have been peeled 927 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 2: and then and eats them because they're a good source 928 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,240 Speaker 2: of protein. I said, well, it is true. 929 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:59,000 Speaker 5: However, they do smell like heart boiled eggs. 930 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 1: Foot eggs smell no feet. 931 00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, smell like ass. But I think, you know, maybe 932 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,640 Speaker 5: maybe eat them before you get on the plane because 933 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 5: they are a good source of protein. But like spare 934 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:12,800 Speaker 5: your seat made. 935 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,400 Speaker 3: When you're closed vehicle. I made her eat them in 936 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,080 Speaker 3: the parking lot. She was standing in the parking lot 937 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,160 Speaker 3: eating them, because I I mean, that's a. 938 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:20,960 Speaker 5: Fair, that's a fair. 939 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,800 Speaker 2: Some peanut butter or something like a peanut butter stick like, 940 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,439 Speaker 2: that's better. That's not offensive to anyone. Everyone loves peanut butter. 941 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 2: Almonds don't smell except the kids. 942 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,360 Speaker 1: That are allergic to peanut butter on planes. 943 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's many options. 944 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,239 Speaker 2: I flew home from from somewhere yesterday and they put 945 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 2: down a thing of those almonds, and I'm just like, 946 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,319 Speaker 2: those are the most unappealing almonds I've ever seen. 947 00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,920 Speaker 4: Like I was just like what, I was, just like unsalted, 948 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:45,920 Speaker 4: and I just looked at them. 949 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:47,360 Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't even want one, you know, like 950 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 2: almonds when they're hot on a plane are good. When 951 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:51,440 Speaker 2: they don't do that and they just throw some mixed together, 952 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,839 Speaker 2: I'm like, no, no, no, back the fuck up, bring 953 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,839 Speaker 2: me some eggs anyway, So grab your obits and grab 954 00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 2: your peanut butter, don't grab your eggs. 955 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 1: Head to the golf course and stand up for yourself. 956 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,000 Speaker 3: Yes, or I do grab my eggs and no one 957 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 3: will go near me. 958 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:06,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good idea. 959 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:08,080 Speaker 4: My love to your friend. 960 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:10,600 Speaker 3: I'm sure you would. You guys have got along well. 961 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,960 Speaker 4: Awesome, Thanks so much for colleague and Miranda to take care. 962 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:16,360 Speaker 3: So yah bye. 963 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know why anyone golfs anyway. I find 964 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,400 Speaker 2: golfing to be so boring. 965 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 5: It seems I can confirm it's very borings. 966 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:27,120 Speaker 1: Oh right, exactly. 967 00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 2: You know what I've been watching is that Full Swing 968 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:30,560 Speaker 2: documentary docuseries. 969 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:31,720 Speaker 1: Do you know about this on Netflix? 970 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:32,200 Speaker 3: Oh? 971 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's actually makes golf someone interesting. 972 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 2: Yes, I was gonna say the same thing because I 973 00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 2: was like, oh, this is something I know nothing about. 974 00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:41,480 Speaker 1: Let me watch a couple of episodes. 975 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,480 Speaker 2: And it's a lot about Jordan's speeth and they have 976 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,440 Speaker 2: a couple of players that are like on the up 977 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:46,759 Speaker 2: and up. 978 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,919 Speaker 5: Yeah, Jordan's great. I mean, I love Jordan. He's under 979 00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,040 Speaker 5: armor guy and I've known him for a long time. 980 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:54,920 Speaker 5: There's some I mean, there's some good people, and I 981 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,920 Speaker 5: think you just don't see their personalities when they're playing, 982 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,400 Speaker 5: which is why I think others are more engaging. But 983 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,440 Speaker 5: I think that this is showing actually a good side 984 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,080 Speaker 5: of golf, So good on them. And also break Point. 985 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,240 Speaker 5: I've you seen at the Tennis one Breakpoint. 986 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:10,880 Speaker 2: I've seen a couple episodes of that. And then the 987 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,920 Speaker 2: Formula one also, I haven't seen that yet because that's 988 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 2: I'm less interested in Formula one than I am in golf, 989 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,840 Speaker 2: but I'm going to get to it because that's another 990 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,200 Speaker 2: sport where I'm not paying attention and I don't know 991 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:22,960 Speaker 2: what needs. 992 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:23,359 Speaker 1: To be really good. 993 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought you would love Formula One. It's like skiing. 994 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:28,600 Speaker 5: It's speed, it's like adrenaline. 995 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, but there's a lot of mechanics. 996 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,759 Speaker 2: It's very mechanical, actually not really well the way they 997 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:36,480 Speaker 2: talk about cars and the pit. 998 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,160 Speaker 1: I like the attitude and the strategy and the winning 999 00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 1: championship vibe. I love that. 1000 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:41,680 Speaker 3: You know. 1001 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:45,600 Speaker 2: What is also great about full swing is it's great 1002 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,680 Speaker 2: to see the ebb and flow of a career because 1003 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,480 Speaker 2: you're never at your height all the time. There's highs 1004 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,480 Speaker 2: and there's lows, and it's always like the underdog that 1005 00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,320 Speaker 2: comes in, you know, and wins when you least expect it. 1006 00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,160 Speaker 2: And the people that have been revered or celebrate to 1007 00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,640 Speaker 2: the most always end up not forever, but they always 1008 00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,400 Speaker 2: dip and they have their troubles too, So it's never 1009 00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:10,080 Speaker 2: like just some static road where it's just an assent, 1010 00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:10,520 Speaker 2: you know. 1011 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:10,960 Speaker 1: What I mean. 1012 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,879 Speaker 5: It's honestly really cool because it's kind of like every 1013 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 5: athlete has their own little mini documentary. And to your 1014 00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,720 Speaker 5: point of ebbs and flows, no career in any sport, 1015 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,399 Speaker 5: I don't care who you are, is always at the top, 1016 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,359 Speaker 5: and I think it humanizes athletes and shows you how 1017 00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:31,080 Speaker 5: hard it is to be consistently at the top. I 1018 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,520 Speaker 5: mean again, no one's at the top forever, but to 1019 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,520 Speaker 5: be able to come back every time you go down 1020 00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,920 Speaker 5: is really hard. So I love these little shows. I 1021 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,279 Speaker 5: mean again, they're like mini documentaries for every athlete, and 1022 00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,640 Speaker 5: that gives every athlete a lot more credit because honestly, 1023 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,600 Speaker 5: most people don't quite understand the difficulty. 1024 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's not you know, there's a lot of similarities. 1025 00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,160 Speaker 2: You know, in my business, there are dips, and there 1026 00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,640 Speaker 2: are valleys, and there are struggles, and it is exactly 1027 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,520 Speaker 2: how you behave in those moments that make you a champion. 1028 00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,000 Speaker 2: You know, it's how you pick yourself back up and 1029 00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,200 Speaker 2: how you succeed again after you've fallen or you've failed 1030 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,760 Speaker 2: or what you deem a failure or you have at placed. 1031 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,959 Speaker 2: It's very inspiring to watch these kinds of shows because 1032 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,799 Speaker 2: it's just it's really about it's a commentary on life 1033 00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,920 Speaker 2: and you know, competitiveness, and I mean there aren't a 1034 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,320 Speaker 2: lot of industries or businesses that you don't have some 1035 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,239 Speaker 2: aspect of competitiveness in there. 1036 00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,400 Speaker 5: Absolutely not. Until totally agree. 1037 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:36,320 Speaker 4: Well, our next question comes from Lana, and this is 1038 00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:40,040 Speaker 4: a bit of a relationship beet question. I'm twenty four 1039 00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:41,759 Speaker 4: and I've been with my boyfriend for three and a 1040 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,440 Speaker 4: half years. This summer, we'll be moving in together for 1041 00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,800 Speaker 4: the first time in a new city with new jobs. 1042 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,080 Speaker 4: Within the next year or so, I expect to be 1043 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,160 Speaker 4: engaged to him. Our dynamic has always been the same. 1044 00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,839 Speaker 4: I'm very affectionate, both physically and verbally. I've been told 1045 00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,319 Speaker 4: it's like I don't leave the honeymoon phase, and he's 1046 00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:02,160 Speaker 4: always kind, caring, supporting me emotionally, showing up for me, 1047 00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,680 Speaker 4: helping me whenever I ask, and taking me out on 1048 00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,879 Speaker 4: nice dates. He just doesn't express to me verbally how 1049 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,080 Speaker 4: he feels. He'll tell me he loves me when I 1050 00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,960 Speaker 4: say goodbye or when I prompt it, but usually no 1051 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,520 Speaker 4: sweet words come unprompted. I'm not one hundred percent sure 1052 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:20,080 Speaker 4: what's triggering this now, but recently I've been feeling insecure 1053 00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,040 Speaker 4: about how we display our love to each other and 1054 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,680 Speaker 4: how it feels disproportionate to me. The perfect partner would 1055 00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,000 Speaker 4: be able to show their love through all love languages, 1056 00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:32,240 Speaker 4: because they want to gift giving verbal affection, physical affection, 1057 00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,120 Speaker 4: acts of service are all things I provide when I 1058 00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:38,000 Speaker 4: truly and deeply love someone without having to think about it. 1059 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,799 Speaker 4: Is this an unrealistic view to expect the same. I've 1060 00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:43,760 Speaker 4: talked to him about this, and he says my feelings 1061 00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,480 Speaker 4: are valid, that he's always felt I have more affection 1062 00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,399 Speaker 4: toward him than he has for me. This hurt to hear, 1063 00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:51,640 Speaker 4: but he assures me that he loves me and is 1064 00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,320 Speaker 4: in love with me. He just doesn't feel affection for 1065 00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,960 Speaker 4: anyone as deeply as I do. He told me that 1066 00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,239 Speaker 4: he used to feel very deeply growing up, but that 1067 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,320 Speaker 4: changed after going through painful heartbreaks and dealing with a 1068 00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,000 Speaker 4: close loss as a young adult. Is it wrong for 1069 00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,359 Speaker 4: me to find this out looks sad and to want 1070 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,040 Speaker 4: more from him in terms of verbal and physical affection, 1071 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,479 Speaker 4: even though he checks all the other boxes. I'm torn 1072 00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,279 Speaker 4: because I know I can find many men who will 1073 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,719 Speaker 4: say sweet things to me, but they don't actually care. 1074 00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:20,440 Speaker 4: Is it just an insecurity on my part, needing to 1075 00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:22,960 Speaker 4: know how he truly feels because of the next steps 1076 00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:28,000 Speaker 4: we'll be taking soon? Lana, Hi, Lada, Hi, Hi? 1077 00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:31,640 Speaker 1: How are you? I'm doing you and you are twenty four? 1078 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,160 Speaker 1: You said, right, yes, I am okay? 1079 00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:35,919 Speaker 2: So the only thing that struck me in your letter, 1080 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,040 Speaker 2: if you hadn't said this part, which was he used 1081 00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,239 Speaker 2: to be affectionate with other people and then he got 1082 00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,920 Speaker 2: his heart broken, which is the reason he's giving you 1083 00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:45,400 Speaker 2: for not having as much. 1084 00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:46,000 Speaker 1: Affection as you. 1085 00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,759 Speaker 2: Is kind of like, oh, so he has the capability, 1086 00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,120 Speaker 2: but he's chosen to shut down rather than open up. 1087 00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,200 Speaker 2: So that doesn't make a lot of sense, because if 1088 00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:56,759 Speaker 2: he really felt like you were the one and you 1089 00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:58,800 Speaker 2: guys are supposed to be together, I would imagine that 1090 00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,200 Speaker 2: that would be brushed open. And again, you don't really 1091 00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,480 Speaker 2: we don't really have control over who we fall over. 1092 00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:07,040 Speaker 2: That aside, it does sound like you're expecting from him 1093 00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,759 Speaker 2: what you're giving out, and that's not a fair thing 1094 00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:10,920 Speaker 2: to do in a relationship. 1095 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:12,600 Speaker 1: You can't expect the. 1096 00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:14,840 Speaker 2: Partner to give you what you want to give, or 1097 00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:16,359 Speaker 2: that your partner is going to be great at all. 1098 00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,600 Speaker 2: Four love languages, like, that's just not realistic. 1099 00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:20,040 Speaker 1: Actually, if I. 1100 00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:23,839 Speaker 4: Can interject, there are five love languages, and the one 1101 00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:27,239 Speaker 4: that you left out, Lana was quality time, which is 1102 00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,200 Speaker 4: the thing that he is really giving you, and that 1103 00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:33,080 Speaker 4: may be the way he expresses his love languages. Started interrupt. 1104 00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:34,319 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm glad you did. 1105 00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,479 Speaker 2: I mean, I had no idea that we're five because 1106 00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,640 Speaker 2: I haven't read that fucking book. I've only heard about 1107 00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,120 Speaker 2: it NonStop for the last ten years. 1108 00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,480 Speaker 4: That's the thing is, I think everybody hears like the 1109 00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:44,920 Speaker 4: Instagram snippets of it. 1110 00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,920 Speaker 1: Oh, I'm figuring of the four agreements, that's what they're giving. Okay, 1111 00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:48,680 Speaker 1: got it. 1112 00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:51,960 Speaker 4: But yeah, you know, the thing about the love languages 1113 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:56,160 Speaker 4: is it's about finding out what each person's actually is 1114 00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:59,839 Speaker 4: and expressing love to them through that, Like maybe yours 1115 00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:03,279 Speaker 4: is more heavily these verbal, little sweet things that he 1116 00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,640 Speaker 4: might say, and his maybe quality time, so it's just 1117 00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:10,560 Speaker 4: a mismatch, and figuring out how to encourage him to 1118 00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:12,359 Speaker 4: give you what you need and you to give him 1119 00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:13,359 Speaker 4: what he needs. 1120 00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:17,360 Speaker 6: Okay, is it wrong to like specifically ask for that? 1121 00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:20,000 Speaker 6: Like That's what I've been doing in the past few weeks, 1122 00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,560 Speaker 6: Because I wrote in this email after we had like 1123 00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,520 Speaker 6: a little bit of not an argument but a discussion. 1124 00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:27,839 Speaker 6: I mean I kind of circled back to him later 1125 00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:31,759 Speaker 6: after I kind of decompressed, and I was kind of saying, like, 1126 00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:35,720 Speaker 6: growing up, I didn't get verbal affection or physical affection 1127 00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:39,560 Speaker 6: for my parents, and just thinking about living my whole life. 1128 00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:44,600 Speaker 6: Not getting that is like really sad, so I I've 1129 00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,239 Speaker 6: been just asking for it, like, hey, like, when you're done, 1130 00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,160 Speaker 6: can you come here and like give me a cuddle 1131 00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,560 Speaker 6: or something cuddle me. I don't know if that's not 1132 00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,280 Speaker 6: romantic or if that's like being needy. 1133 00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:59,040 Speaker 4: It's communicating what you need from your partner, and I 1134 00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,279 Speaker 4: think that's great, and what if he's not able to 1135 00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:02,040 Speaker 4: deliver it though? 1136 00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,799 Speaker 6: Right And there have been times recently where he has 1137 00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,600 Speaker 6: been so stressed out with being on the job market 1138 00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:11,439 Speaker 6: and everything where he has been like, I'm not really 1139 00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,799 Speaker 6: in the mood to be really affectionate right now. I'll 1140 00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,279 Speaker 6: spend time with you and we'll have dinner together, but 1141 00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:18,640 Speaker 6: I'm not going to be as loving as you want 1142 00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,359 Speaker 6: me to be right now. And I think as long 1143 00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,080 Speaker 6: as that's communicated, I'm okay with that. But it is 1144 00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,520 Speaker 6: still kind of hard to be like, well, what if 1145 00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,000 Speaker 6: what if there is a perfect person where he would 1146 00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,160 Speaker 6: act this way towards Well. 1147 00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:34,040 Speaker 5: First of all, there's no perfect person, Like there's no 1148 00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:36,960 Speaker 5: one that's going to do all the love languages, and 1149 00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:40,200 Speaker 5: that's perfect. But at the same time, if you're communicating 1150 00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,600 Speaker 5: what you need to him and he's not able to 1151 00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:45,960 Speaker 5: give that to you. You're young. You can't spend the 1152 00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:49,160 Speaker 5: rest of your life feeling like you need something else. 1153 00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,799 Speaker 5: So I think if there's that hole, and I felt 1154 00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:56,080 Speaker 5: it before myself, if you're not if you have needs 1155 00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:59,000 Speaker 5: that aren't being met and that's just the character of 1156 00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,800 Speaker 5: the person that you're with, then it's just a mismatch, 1157 00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:05,000 Speaker 5: you know. And again, you're really young. It's fine to 1158 00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,800 Speaker 5: move on and start over. But if you live a 1159 00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:10,840 Speaker 5: hole and it's not being filled, that's never going to 1160 00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,520 Speaker 5: get filled. You're never going to change someone. If they 1161 00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:17,319 Speaker 5: can't do what you're needing them to do, then it's 1162 00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:18,239 Speaker 5: just not going to work. 1163 00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I want to say, I am a little 1164 00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:25,359 Speaker 2: bit like I think your boyfriend and I have been 1165 00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,840 Speaker 2: in relationships with people who have been very needy of 1166 00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:31,759 Speaker 2: affection and time and like lots of cuddling and. 1167 00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,600 Speaker 1: Kissing, and I can give only so much. 1168 00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,239 Speaker 2: Like it's not a reflection of how I feel about them, 1169 00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:40,719 Speaker 2: it's a reflection of like, I'm very comfortable in my 1170 00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,480 Speaker 2: own space and in my own skin, and when I'm 1171 00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:45,360 Speaker 2: needed like that, you know, if I wanted to be 1172 00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,160 Speaker 2: needed like that, I would have become a mother, Like, 1173 00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:51,120 Speaker 2: I don't like when I feel needed, so I can 1174 00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,440 Speaker 2: kind of relate to you know, it's just a different 1175 00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:56,759 Speaker 2: set of importance around you, like what I value. I 1176 00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:58,520 Speaker 2: also don't like gifts, like I don't care if I 1177 00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:00,600 Speaker 2: ever get a gift in the world. Ya, it doesn't 1178 00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,240 Speaker 2: matter to me. Those things don't matter. So I'm about 1179 00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:05,520 Speaker 2: like I like time spent. That's how I spend time 1180 00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:08,200 Speaker 2: with my friends, my family, everyone I love. Is about 1181 00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:11,640 Speaker 2: quality time. So I think, you know, there's two sides 1182 00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,040 Speaker 2: of this argument. I think you are really young and 1183 00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,480 Speaker 2: twenty four years old. I really think you probably are 1184 00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,719 Speaker 2: going to want some more experiences in your life, like 1185 00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,160 Speaker 2: as you I know that's probably not how you're feeling 1186 00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:24,319 Speaker 2: right now, but it's really the truth of the matter. 1187 00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:26,919 Speaker 2: From three women who are older than you, You're gonna 1188 00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,640 Speaker 2: want a little bit more experience. It's like she's not 1189 00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:31,120 Speaker 2: getting what she needs, so she has to ask what 1190 00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:33,200 Speaker 2: she needs. Also, you have to respect that this person 1191 00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,520 Speaker 2: isn't built like you. You don't have the same brain, 1192 00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:37,880 Speaker 2: you don't have the same likes, dislikes, all of that. 1193 00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:40,400 Speaker 2: So I think it's somewhere in the middle. You know, 1194 00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:42,879 Speaker 2: you have to kind of figure out, like what's make 1195 00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:44,880 Speaker 2: or break? How often do you need a hug? And 1196 00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,480 Speaker 2: if you do really need that all the time, then 1197 00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:49,120 Speaker 2: you should find someone who's going to give it to you. 1198 00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:52,320 Speaker 6: Right, And back to the point where I said, he 1199 00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,920 Speaker 6: was saying that he used to be like really loving 1200 00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:59,320 Speaker 6: in relationships. That was also back in high school. So 1201 00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,720 Speaker 6: I don't know if that's like a fair comparison because 1202 00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:03,680 Speaker 6: he was saying, Oh, I was getting all this advice 1203 00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:07,520 Speaker 6: from girls to text my girlfriend I love you every 1204 00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:11,839 Speaker 6: day and good night gorgeous, and he obviously figured out 1205 00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:13,560 Speaker 6: that's not what you're supposed to do. So I don't 1206 00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:16,560 Speaker 6: know if it's really like trauma why he's closed off, 1207 00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:20,319 Speaker 6: or it's just him growing up. But I do think 1208 00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,840 Speaker 6: it would be good for him to kind of go 1209 00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:27,360 Speaker 6: to a therapist and explore that, because I don't know 1210 00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:28,680 Speaker 6: if he's really explored that. 1211 00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:30,960 Speaker 4: She meant that he also had a loss of someone 1212 00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:32,160 Speaker 4: close to him as well. 1213 00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that could be it. I mean, but 1214 00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:36,840 Speaker 1: you know, is he going to go to therapy? Is 1215 00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:38,560 Speaker 1: he open to that? Like, have you discussed that? 1216 00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:44,320 Speaker 6: I have discussed that he thinks that he is generally okay, 1217 00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:47,120 Speaker 6: and he's like the strong one for all the other 1218 00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:49,640 Speaker 6: people in his life, and that he would be open 1219 00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,800 Speaker 6: to therapy if something bad happened or something traumatic happened. 1220 00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:56,120 Speaker 6: But I'm of the belief that anyone could use therapy 1221 00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:58,960 Speaker 6: y at all times. So I don't know if you 1222 00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:02,040 Speaker 6: can really convince someone of going to therapy without them 1223 00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:03,000 Speaker 6: feeling they need. 1224 00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:05,759 Speaker 2: To No, and there's no point, like, there's no point 1225 00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:07,520 Speaker 2: in forcing somebody to go to therapy. It has to 1226 00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:09,520 Speaker 2: be their idea, otherwise they're not going to absorb anything 1227 00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:10,279 Speaker 2: that they're going there for. 1228 00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:11,480 Speaker 3: Right. 1229 00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,400 Speaker 6: I almost thought about, you know, now that we're getting 1230 00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:16,880 Speaker 6: super serious, I am going to be moving to a 1231 00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,520 Speaker 6: whole different state with him. We've been together for four 1232 00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:22,960 Speaker 6: years and so now it's like finally becoming real, Like I, 1233 00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:25,480 Speaker 6: if I do this move with him, next step in 1234 00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:29,600 Speaker 6: a few years is maybe getting engaged. And I was thinking, well, 1235 00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,600 Speaker 6: maybe I should say, like, if I'm going to get 1236 00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:34,840 Speaker 6: married to you, I want you to be open to therapy. 1237 00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,400 Speaker 6: But I don't know if that's a fair ultimatum. 1238 00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:39,520 Speaker 2: I think that's fair. I mean, we live in twenty 1239 00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:41,880 Speaker 2: twenty three or sometimes twenty twenty four, you know. 1240 00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:43,600 Speaker 1: Have you tried golfing. 1241 00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:46,719 Speaker 6: He actually used to be on the golf team. 1242 00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:49,080 Speaker 2: Oh okay, well he's tried it. We just had a 1243 00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:52,680 Speaker 2: golfer Collein. So there's some similarities here. Well not very 1244 00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:55,120 Speaker 2: many actually, but I just thought golfing was something that 1245 00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:57,279 Speaker 2: I should bring up again as far as. 1246 00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:57,879 Speaker 1: The therapy goes. 1247 00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:01,560 Speaker 4: Maybe it's you two going together. Maybe there's something there. 1248 00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,080 Speaker 4: Maybe it's not just like you have to go. 1249 00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:05,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good to get a third person involved in 1250 00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,319 Speaker 2: this because I don't want to qualify you as needy 1251 00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:09,440 Speaker 2: because you're saying what you want, which is good, but 1252 00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:12,359 Speaker 2: you might be coming across as needy and that might 1253 00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:14,320 Speaker 2: be rubbing him the wrong way and then you're creating 1254 00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:15,200 Speaker 2: like a chasm. 1255 00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:16,480 Speaker 1: So it's like if he. 1256 00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:18,560 Speaker 2: Could modify his behavior a little bit and you could 1257 00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:21,040 Speaker 2: modify yours and meet in the middle, which would be 1258 00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:24,040 Speaker 2: like what would happen in therapy ideally is somebody saying, Okay, 1259 00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:26,320 Speaker 2: this is you got to compromise. Then I feel like 1260 00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:29,960 Speaker 2: you would have more of a like workable dynamic instead 1261 00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,960 Speaker 2: of you feeling ignored or slighted. 1262 00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:33,320 Speaker 5: You know. 1263 00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:35,840 Speaker 2: I feel like that might be a good option for 1264 00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:38,759 Speaker 2: you to bring up. Yeah, especially since you're moving. That's 1265 00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:41,520 Speaker 2: a perfect excuse. We're moving to a new state. We've 1266 00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:43,680 Speaker 2: never lived here before. There's gonna be lots of pressure, 1267 00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,560 Speaker 2: there's gonna be lots of opportunity. I want to stay grounded, 1268 00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:48,520 Speaker 2: and I would love to have like a wad for 1269 00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:51,600 Speaker 2: us to just make sure we're always ahead of our problems. 1270 00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,120 Speaker 2: You know, therapy is great when you're going through something, 1271 00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:55,200 Speaker 2: but it's even better when. 1272 00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:56,680 Speaker 1: You have the tools before you go through that. 1273 00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:59,560 Speaker 2: So hang your hat on that and make it couch 1274 00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:01,640 Speaker 2: it in that, and then when you get in there 1275 00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:03,000 Speaker 2: you can get into these issues. 1276 00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:05,840 Speaker 5: That's actually really you're so smart, Chelsea. 1277 00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:08,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so too. Right in this moment, I 1278 00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:09,800 Speaker 2: was like, Wow, why didn't you think of that earlier? 1279 00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:11,880 Speaker 1: Brilliant O. Great problem solved. 1280 00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:15,839 Speaker 4: Awesome. Well, Lana, let us know how it goes. Let 1281 00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:17,200 Speaker 4: us know how the move goes as well. 1282 00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,759 Speaker 6: Yeah, we'll do. I really like your idea, Chelsea, because 1283 00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:23,160 Speaker 6: we're also going to be living together for the first time, 1284 00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:25,479 Speaker 6: so that's also ourwines. 1285 00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:26,040 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1286 00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:28,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you don't want to screw this up. You 1287 00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:31,360 Speaker 1: want to succeed. Blah blah blah blah. Let's go to therapy. 1288 00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:32,960 Speaker 6: Right, for sure. 1289 00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:33,960 Speaker 3: I like that idea. 1290 00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:35,560 Speaker 5: Well, thanks so much for your suggestion. 1291 00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely awesome. 1292 00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:40,080 Speaker 5: Well you know how it goes. 1293 00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:45,160 Speaker 1: Okay, take Carolta, good luck, she's a baby. 1294 00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,160 Speaker 2: I know I wanted to go break up with him, like, fucking, 1295 00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:50,360 Speaker 2: it's your twenty four you need to find a new boyfriend. 1296 00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:52,879 Speaker 4: I want to be like we all felt so needy 1297 00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:53,920 Speaker 4: at twenty four, like. 1298 00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,440 Speaker 5: Mabe, I know, I know IM married at twenty two. 1299 00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:58,960 Speaker 1: Shit, I always forget you were married. 1300 00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:01,480 Speaker 5: It's so weird, you know, we don't even talk about it. 1301 00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:04,920 Speaker 5: But yeah, I always want to say whenever anyone in 1302 00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:07,200 Speaker 5: their twenties ask me for advice, I'm like, whatever, you 1303 00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:09,000 Speaker 5: just don't get married, don't. 1304 00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:11,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, I mean twenty four years so needy. I 1305 00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,000 Speaker 2: used to I had a boyfriend. I remember who I 1306 00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:15,800 Speaker 2: was talking to over this weekend, actually because he was 1307 00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:17,520 Speaker 2: texting me, and I used to beg him like I 1308 00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:19,120 Speaker 2: would be like I wanted to sleep at his house 1309 00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:20,520 Speaker 2: every night. He lived up the street from me in 1310 00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:23,000 Speaker 2: Santa Monica, and I would go over there every night. 1311 00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:25,240 Speaker 2: And I remember once he was like, hey, do you 1312 00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:27,600 Speaker 2: have to sleep over every single night? And I was 1313 00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:29,840 Speaker 2: like yeah, I'm your girlfriend obviously. 1314 00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:30,400 Speaker 5: You know. 1315 00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:32,160 Speaker 1: Now as I'm sitting here. 1316 00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:34,640 Speaker 2: As a forty eight year old woman, I'm like, oh, 1317 00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:38,200 Speaker 2: how annoying you know to not be able to. 1318 00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:40,080 Speaker 1: Go, Oh, sure you need space, let me. 1319 00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:42,080 Speaker 2: I won't sleep over a few nights a week that 1320 00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,200 Speaker 2: if you know, when somebody asks you for space, you 1321 00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:46,840 Speaker 2: have to fucking respect that and give them double like 1322 00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:50,520 Speaker 2: let them have their space. So yeah, I think there's 1323 00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:52,880 Speaker 2: a there's a neediness that comes in your twenties. You 1324 00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:55,360 Speaker 2: really want this fairy tale that you think is going 1325 00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:55,760 Speaker 2: to happen. 1326 00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:56,880 Speaker 5: There is no fairy tale. 1327 00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like going to the Eiffel Tower. 1328 00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,000 Speaker 2: I went with my boyfriend and when I was twenty 1329 00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,560 Speaker 2: one to Paris, and I just had this vision of 1330 00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:05,720 Speaker 2: like what our trip was going to be like. And 1331 00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:09,040 Speaker 2: he was British and I was still American and I 1332 00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:11,360 Speaker 2: was twenty one and he was thirty four. And we 1333 00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:13,600 Speaker 2: went to London and we stayed in a hotel room 1334 00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:17,040 Speaker 2: and the bathroom was inside the bedroom. There was no 1335 00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:18,000 Speaker 2: separate bathroom. 1336 00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:22,680 Speaker 1: And I was like, this is not how I yeah. Yeah, 1337 00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:26,680 Speaker 1: we didn't speak the entire trip to Paris. 1338 00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:28,640 Speaker 2: There were pictures of me alone at the Eiffel Tower 1339 00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:30,640 Speaker 2: and him alone at the Eiffel Tower and the Louver 1340 00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:33,320 Speaker 2: and every other thing that you saw, and the Champs 1341 00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:36,200 Speaker 2: de Les because Princess di had just died there, and 1342 00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:39,680 Speaker 2: the Plaza Athonite just us not speaking because I was 1343 00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:43,720 Speaker 2: so disappointed in this fantasy that I had created in 1344 00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:46,200 Speaker 2: my mind that had never shown proof of life. 1345 00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:49,600 Speaker 5: You know what I mean, It's just proof of life. 1346 00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:52,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no I mean, we just were not as fantastical. 1347 00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:53,760 Speaker 2: When we're older, we get it. 1348 00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:55,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, just more real. 1349 00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:57,600 Speaker 4: We've been disappointed enough. 1350 00:58:58,040 --> 00:58:59,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly. 1351 00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:02,400 Speaker 1: A quick break and we'll be back to wrap. 1352 00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:09,840 Speaker 2: And we're back with Lindsay, Vaughn and Catherine to wrap 1353 00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:14,320 Speaker 2: up today's episode, which was good. This was a great episode. Yeah, 1354 00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:17,680 Speaker 2: you gave good advice, Lindsay gave good advice. Lindsay, you 1355 00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:20,640 Speaker 2: look fucking beautiful, by the way, ridiculous. I was just 1356 00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:25,560 Speaker 2: sitting there looking at you, going, wow, you're looking real gooding. 1357 00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:30,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, this, this lovely hotel is really making me 1358 00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:31,040 Speaker 5: glow over here. 1359 00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:35,360 Speaker 2: All Orlando hotels are beautiful, so pretty well, Lindsay, is 1360 00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:37,120 Speaker 2: there any advice you'd like from Chelsea? 1361 00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:37,520 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1362 00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:40,680 Speaker 1: Do you want any skiing advice for me, lindsay, yes, 1363 00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:41,600 Speaker 1: how do you ski? 1364 00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:45,200 Speaker 5: So damn well? Chelsea? In your bikini? I've always wanted, 1365 00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:48,640 Speaker 5: how do you like not freeze your tits off? 1366 00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:48,840 Speaker 3: Like? 1367 00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:51,560 Speaker 5: That's what I want to know, because I can't even 1368 00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:55,320 Speaker 5: handle being in my ski clothes, let alone like basically naked. 1369 00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:58,080 Speaker 5: But that's not my question. That was just something I'm 1370 00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:01,600 Speaker 5: curious about. But my actual ques es is how do 1371 01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:04,640 Speaker 5: you Cause you love skiing and obviously I love skiing, 1372 01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:08,400 Speaker 5: but you work so hard? How do you manage both things? 1373 01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:10,920 Speaker 5: Like how do you manage getting time to do what 1374 01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:13,440 Speaker 5: you love? And how do you manage being a boss? 1375 01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:16,000 Speaker 2: I just I'm like, listen, if I don't get to 1376 01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:19,120 Speaker 2: ski for a good solid two months a year, then 1377 01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:21,120 Speaker 2: I'm not worth anything the rest of the year. So 1378 01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:23,920 Speaker 2: I will work all summer long, I'll tour and I'll 1379 01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:26,520 Speaker 2: do that stuff, and then I have to have my 1380 01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:29,280 Speaker 2: time to ski because it's just so important for me. 1381 01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:32,640 Speaker 2: It's my only real passion besides what I do and 1382 01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:35,520 Speaker 2: reading books and stuff like, I love skiing. You know, 1383 01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:37,160 Speaker 2: the way you talk about it is the way I 1384 01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:39,080 Speaker 2: feel about it. I always want to be on the mountain. 1385 01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:41,200 Speaker 2: I always want to get up, and I mean, my 1386 01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:43,640 Speaker 2: friends call it like they're just like, you're so ridiculous. 1387 01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:46,520 Speaker 2: Like I'm outside my door waiting for them to come 1388 01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:48,400 Speaker 2: get me before we go to the and I've got 1389 01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:51,120 Speaker 2: my outfit on, like I've got everything ready, my gloves, 1390 01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:53,680 Speaker 2: my skis, and my phone, and I'm just sitting there 1391 01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:55,760 Speaker 2: waiting at the ski lift. Like at the you know, 1392 01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:58,160 Speaker 2: we walk to the little run and I'm just like 1393 01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:00,560 Speaker 2: an eager beaver, and they're like, you're just so excited. 1394 01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:02,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I like to go out. 1395 01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:03,720 Speaker 2: At eight thirty and get like three or four runs 1396 01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:06,240 Speaker 2: before anyone else comes out, and then I like to 1397 01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:09,200 Speaker 2: ski with my friends. But I feel like we talked 1398 01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:12,760 Speaker 2: about this earlier or the other episode, you know. I 1399 01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:14,800 Speaker 2: think for when you're in the public eye and the 1400 01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:17,200 Speaker 2: way that we both are, there's so much attention on you, 1401 01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:19,840 Speaker 2: and your life is so much about you, and you're 1402 01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:23,800 Speaker 2: so self involved that it's so necessary to actually have 1403 01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:27,680 Speaker 2: other interests that don't require it being about you. So 1404 01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:30,240 Speaker 2: for you, it would probably be something other than skiing 1405 01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:33,240 Speaker 2: to do that doesn't remind you of the main. 1406 01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:34,439 Speaker 1: Event in your life. 1407 01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:37,680 Speaker 2: And I always make sure that I take myself out 1408 01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:39,480 Speaker 2: of my comfort zone, and I'm trying different things so 1409 01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:43,080 Speaker 2: that I remain normal, like a human being that's constantly 1410 01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:46,080 Speaker 2: growing and evolving and not just spinning around in this 1411 01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:48,440 Speaker 2: little hubris that is our lives. 1412 01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:52,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, that's a good point. I mean, I played tennis. 1413 01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:52,960 Speaker 5: I love tennis. 1414 01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:53,960 Speaker 1: What about golf? 1415 01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:57,040 Speaker 2: Have you thought about golfing? I think you should take 1416 01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:59,000 Speaker 2: up golf. That feels like the missing hole. 1417 01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:03,920 Speaker 1: So many puns in that, so many, so many puns. 1418 01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:07,080 Speaker 5: How do you also manage to change the subjects? How 1419 01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:09,760 Speaker 5: do you also manage being away from your dogs? 1420 01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:13,480 Speaker 1: Well, I mean that's just out of good parenting. 1421 01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:16,480 Speaker 2: It's better that they're not with me in Whistler because 1422 01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:18,440 Speaker 2: they like to be at home in LA where they 1423 01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:20,640 Speaker 2: can go in and out of the house. They just 1424 01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:23,080 Speaker 2: prefer that, and I took them to Whistler and they're 1425 01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:25,480 Speaker 2: just too old for that. So the next round of 1426 01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:28,520 Speaker 2: dogs I get, I will make sure they're younger and 1427 01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:30,680 Speaker 2: they're more adept, and then I will bring them to Whistler. 1428 01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:32,920 Speaker 2: But I'm just trying not to torture them because last 1429 01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:34,720 Speaker 2: time I brought them they were like, what is snow? 1430 01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:38,680 Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure they're from Mexico, because everything is pointing 1431 01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:41,800 Speaker 2: to that. They only understand my bell and they like hot, 1432 01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:44,800 Speaker 2: warm weather, so I think that they're Yeah, I think 1433 01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:45,640 Speaker 2: they're from South. 1434 01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:48,360 Speaker 4: America and one of these mountain dogs that like just 1435 01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:51,040 Speaker 4: wants to live in the snow. Maybe it needs like I. 1436 01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:52,960 Speaker 2: Need a part time dog for the winter, and then 1437 01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:54,680 Speaker 2: I need a dog for summer. That's what I need 1438 01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:57,400 Speaker 2: to do to split my time up. Thank you Lindsey 1439 01:02:57,520 --> 01:02:59,560 Speaker 2: for taking the time to do this. I really appreciate it, 1440 01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:01,920 Speaker 2: and you know I love you and I hope you 1441 01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:04,040 Speaker 2: have a great rest of your day in Orlando. I 1442 01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:05,959 Speaker 2: think it's going to really be falls to the wall. 1443 01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:09,160 Speaker 5: I mean, well, maybe I hit of Disneyland while I'm 1444 01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:09,440 Speaker 5: at it. 1445 01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:12,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, nothing better than an adults going to Disneyland with 1446 01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:14,200 Speaker 2: no children exactly. 1447 01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:16,880 Speaker 5: Not creepy at all. Well, thank you, I love you, 1448 01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:18,960 Speaker 5: and I appreciate you having me on. 1449 01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:20,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you so much. 1450 01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:25,320 Speaker 2: We'll speak soon, lindcybye bye, and don't forget everybody. 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I added a date in Monticello, New York. 1455 01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:40,760 Speaker 2: I'm coming to Colorado to Red Rocks, you have thetheater. 1456 01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:43,320 Speaker 2: I'm coming to calum the Zoo, and then I'm coming 1457 01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:47,080 Speaker 2: to a bunch of places in Tennessee, Memphis, Knoxville, and Chattanooga. 1458 01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:50,280 Speaker 1: That's May nineteenth, twentieth, and twenty first, and. 1459 01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:52,120 Speaker 2: Then I'll be in Atlantic City June tenth, which is 1460 01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:53,680 Speaker 2: almost stilled out, so get your tickets. 1461 01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:54,960 Speaker 3: If you'd like. 1462 01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:57,800 Speaker 4: Advice from Chelsea, shoot us an email at Dear Chelsea 1463 01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:00,480 Speaker 4: podcast at gmail dot com and sure to include your 1464 01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:04,000 Speaker 4: phone number. 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