1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,079 Speaker 1: Today is Tricia Yearwood's birthday and she's just the best 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: and we spent an hour with her. This has been 3 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: a while back, but it's so much about her life 4 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: and how she made it and how she was a 5 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: receptionist and she didn't even tell people as she was 6 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: a receptionist that she was a singer until she got 7 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: a record deal. It's one of the really cool things 8 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: about this and again, I'm just such a big fan 9 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 1: of her professionally and personally, that I wanted to reload 10 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: this because it was literally years ago and I think 11 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,479 Speaker 1: if you're new to the bobby cast you'll really enjoyed this. 12 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: So enjoy an episode that we did. I mean two 13 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: houses to go for me, that's how long ago was, 14 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: back when I used to have to sit awkwardly close 15 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,840 Speaker 1: to them because that table was so small. The first 16 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: time we did it I was like, I'm I'm way 17 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 1: too close. Is Too close? I'm way too close, but 18 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: this is Tricia Yearwood and this is a body cast enjoy. 19 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 1: All right, welcome to episode one with Tricia Yearwood. What 20 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: a treat. Thank you very much. You brought me some 21 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: Jack Daniels Sinatra select now do you have that the 22 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: Frank Sinatra record, and so we'll talk about that in 23 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: a second. But it's orange. It's it's orange on the 24 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: packaging because that was Sinatra's favorite color. And and you're 25 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: pretty cool, I guess, if Jack Daniels gives an entire 26 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: collection of alcohol for you. I mean, I think it's 27 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: pretty cool anyway. I was gonna stretch scratch out his 28 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 1: name of mine, but I decided to just leave it 29 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: for you that way. I think you're pretty cool IFO 30 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: does a record of all your songs, more so than 31 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: if Jack Daniels doesn't. Waiting to be like. I'm waiting 32 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: to do let's be bobby, but I'm don't want to 33 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 1: do that one. That's like a FCC. Fine, that could 34 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 1: be my next thing. That's the whole thing. We were. 35 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: So you handed the alcohol and I said, hey, why 36 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: don't I just drink this, um the first time I 37 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: ever drinking, and I'll just get hammered during the podcast 38 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: be so embarrassed to be that person for you. I 39 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: don't want to be that person, I think, and a 40 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: lot of my friends want to be that person. They 41 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: want me to get drunk with them because then they 42 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: have like my my alcohol flower. Right, exactly. Yeah, I mean, 43 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I love you, but I don't want your 44 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 1: alcohol flower. It's not my thing. I've never been heard 45 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: it called. That totally creepy. I was out with a girl. Um, 46 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 1: speaking of alcohol Fla. Well, this is a whole story 47 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: about me drinking, because when I drink, people act weird 48 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: around me. I don't drink, but people are drinking. I'll oh, 49 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: I shouldn't drink around you. So I don't tell anybody 50 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: that that I don't drink. So I I fake drink. 51 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: So I asked the bartender for something virginy and, you know, 52 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: put a little. So I was with a girl and 53 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 1: we went out and ray and bay, who, Um, we're 54 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: having dinner with them and I go to the bathroom 55 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: and ray tells the girl that I took out. Oh, 56 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: you know, he doesn't drink, right, and then she starts. 57 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 1: She said, I didn't know he told her that and 58 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: she's been acting totally weird around me. And that's what 59 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 1: it is. It was something else. Yeah, I was like 60 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: she must know about my rash. You must have, which 61 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 1: is another reason this kind of be what don't you 62 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: deserve a metal because it's really hard. I find to 63 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: be the sober person around a bunch of drunk people, 64 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: because no one who's really drunk understands how drunk they are. Right. 65 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 1: So you're if you're the sober person, if you're drunk 66 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: with them, then you don't have to worry about not 67 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: having patience with anybody, because you're drunk too. But if 68 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: you're sober and everyone else is drunk, but I don't 69 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: know the difference right. Well, you just aren't hanging around 70 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: the right drunks. Maybe so. I mean, I don't know 71 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: the difference in me, like I know the difference in 72 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: the right I've never been drunk with the drunks. I 73 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: only know being with the stupid people, like I know 74 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 1: a Friday night, if I go out, I'm with a 75 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: bunch of stupid people. That's just par for that course. 76 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: That's what it's going to be. So I appreciate that 77 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 1: someone in this house will drink it. Well, that's what 78 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: I thought. You could serve it. You could serve it 79 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 1: to some one of your guests. Yeah, or someone will 80 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 1: steal it. That's what happens. That might happen. I'll go 81 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: into my bedroom and I'll come back and Eddie stolen 82 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: or somebody from the show selling all the alcohol. I 83 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: get really nice alcost to me sometimes because you keep 84 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: alcohol in your bedroom. I mean, is this something? I'm 85 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: going to my bedroom, like to change clothes or something? 86 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: I'd come out all right, okay, I feel better now. 87 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: I feel better now. I was concerned. Yeah, what have 88 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: you been up to all day? I've been doing I've 89 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: been talking about this record and uh yeah, just kind 90 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: of doing my thing. We're getting ready to go to 91 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,119 Speaker 1: St Louis to do a Tailgate, so I've been talking 92 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: about that. And, Um, what is the interview day for you, 93 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: like a press day? What does that consist of? You 94 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: wake up? What Time Today? I woke up at so 95 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: some days it depends on what you're doing, you know, 96 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: if you're doing with those big early morning shows where 97 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: you're crack early morning show. See, I got into the 98 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: music business to not have to get up early, but 99 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: then you end up getting up early for stuff. You 100 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 1: Get up early, three o'clock. Yeah, that's not okay. That's 101 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: not okay to me. I would have to quit my job. 102 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: What I used think that because I'm not a morning person. 103 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: I just I'm not. It takes me three hours to 104 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 1: get to where I'm okay, but you it's just a balance, 105 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: like do I love what I do? Yeah, but do 106 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: I hate waking up to do it? Yeah, and then 107 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 1: as it starts, like now we've kind of kind of 108 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: built something cool. Yeah, so it's like, you know, if 109 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: my worst problem is not getting sleep, I get that's true, 110 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: and once you're up it's okay. It's the getting up 111 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 1: for me, but getting up in the dark, I mean 112 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 1: that's you really. You really are a night person, because 113 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: you get up in the middle of a night. That's crazy. 114 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: I'm a night person anyway. I'm too, but I mean, 115 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: and I am that person, if I have to get 116 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 1: up really early, I'm not the person that goes to 117 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,239 Speaker 1: bed early. I can't do it. I'm just a night person. 118 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 1: So I'm just not going to get sleep if I 119 00:04:57,720 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: got to get up early. If you're playing a show 120 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: and you finish at eleven thirty, what time? What time 121 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: is into the set? Usually the whole thing, usually even midnight, 122 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: something like that. What time do you finally get down? 123 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: Probably two wish. Yeah, that's my perfect schedule. If I 124 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: could go to wake up at one pm like that 125 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: would be so good. Like that's my my natural I 126 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: was reading a story about that where a lot of jobs, 127 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: not a lot of just but a lot of science, 128 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 1: is saying jobs they're like programming people wrong, that everybody's 129 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: body isn't built for nine to five, that a lot 130 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: of people's bodies are built for noon to eight P M. 131 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,559 Speaker 1: and at the productivity scale, whenever you find what people 132 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 1: do best, they actually work better at the times of 133 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 1: their bodies. Make so much. It makes so much sense, 134 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: so much sense. I mean I was a I had 135 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 1: a nine to five job when I first moved to town. 136 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: I was a receptionist at the record label and I 137 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 1: had to be at work at nine and I worked 138 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 1: at a label where there was a guy at the desk, 139 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: so if I got there at nine Oh one, he'd 140 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: had to sit there an extra hour, so he was 141 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 1: really ticked at me if I was ever late. I 142 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: was always on time because I didn't want h to 143 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 1: be mad at me. And you couldn't leave your desk 144 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 1: to even use the restaurant without somebody sitting in your 145 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: chair because your dance on the phone, you're the cover, 146 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: you're the gateway, you know the whole place and it 147 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: was really depressing for me not because, first of all, 148 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: I'm watching people come in every day and do what 149 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 1: I wanted to be doing, so that was hard, but secondly, 150 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 1: just that structure of this is when you clock in, 151 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: this is when you clock out. I think some people 152 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: are made for it and I think some people aren't, 153 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: and I don't think I am. I like people because 154 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: it must be so crazy. You just normal ever know 155 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: what your schedule is going to be. I'm like, it's 156 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 1: kind of different every day, but I kind of love 157 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 1: that for me, so it's consistently different, like there's a 158 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: consistency to to it always being different exactly exactly, and 159 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 1: I like that. I think I thrive on that. I 160 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 1: don't think I would do well. I know I don't 161 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: do well. Did Not do well in the nine to five. 162 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 1: Marcus humming is a friend and a songwriter in town 163 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: and he said that he would go in. You mentioned 164 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:55,239 Speaker 1: your your job at Mary Tyler Moore and he would 165 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: see you working behind the desk early on. Yes, and 166 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: actually Marcus gave me work. Um He I did some 167 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: demos for him. Um Back in the day, back in 168 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: during that time period, I got to know, I knew 169 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: a couple of songwriters and I started doing demos after work. Um, 170 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: so I'd work nine to six and then I would 171 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: do demos until, you know, nine o'clock and then I 172 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: would go home and go to bed and get back 173 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: up the next day. And and then, for and then 174 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: for a while, I got a job playing at a 175 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: bowling alley in Hendersonville, north of town. So I would 176 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: go leave my job and I would play from seven 177 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: to two and then I would get up and go 178 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: to work the next day. So you work a full 179 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: normal day at five PM, then you go to the 180 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: bowling alley and play for five hours. Yeah, what does 181 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: that mean? What do you do at a bowling on 182 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: when you play? Do you have like a you play sets, 183 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: so as you play at three, like three sets in 184 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: a band? I was in a band, so I did 185 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: all the girls songs, you know, and you did that 186 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: for five hours. Yeah, for yeah. And was it enough? 187 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: Were you doing it to like pay rent? Are you 188 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: doing it to get in the music scene a bit? 189 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: I just wanted to sing. Yeah, I mean, and I 190 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: I honestly made I think I'd make about two hundred 191 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: bucks in a weekend, which was what I made in 192 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: a paycheck, you know. So it was and it was 193 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: I was having more fun doing that. So eventually quit 194 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: the job to do that. But also the demo work 195 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: was I couldn't get full time demo work having a 196 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: full time job, so I could only sing after work. 197 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: So it was kind of that moment of like, I'm 198 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: not really making enough money to to quit the job, 199 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: but if I don't quit the job I'm not gonna 200 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: be able to do the other thing. And that was 201 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: a little transition. But then I then I did demo 202 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: work and it was great for me because I learned. 203 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: I learned so many things I didn't even know I 204 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: was learning. You know, I learned what a good song 205 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: was for me, I learned what a bad song was 206 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 1: for me. I learned how to make a song on 207 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:35,319 Speaker 1: my own because I'm kind of an imitator and I 208 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 1: had sung with the radio in my whole life. So 209 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: then you're hearing songs you've never heard before and you 210 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: have to you have to make them yours and it 211 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: was it was a great training ground for me in 212 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 1: a way that I didn't even realize when you're a 213 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: demo singer and for example, Um, if you're listening to this, 214 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: let's say you and I write a song and we're 215 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 1: like this really good song, we'll get someone to sing 216 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: the demo. So it gets pitched too artists. Um, are 217 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: you hearing like the work tape, the recording, like accept player, 218 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:00,719 Speaker 1: and then learning it real quick? Are youaring that and 219 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: and looking at the lyrics sheet and then walking in 220 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: and seeing it like pretty fresh? Yeah, I'm hearing I'm 221 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 1: hearing it on like a jam box back in the day, Um, 222 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: with a lyric sheet, maybe, usually, usually a lyric sheet. 223 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: And and this was the eighties, you know. So I 224 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: would I'd have a ten o'clock, at two o'clock, at 225 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: a six o'clock. So usually there be three or four 226 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: songs per sessions. So I would listen to the cassette 227 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: of the three songs I had to sing at ten 228 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: o'clock on the way to the session because I'd usually 229 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: go by and pick up a copy the day before, usually, 230 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: and I learned them on the way and I was 231 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: I had a really good short term memory, so I 232 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 1: and I had this system of because you know, in 233 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: Nashville it's the number system. And I was like, do 234 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: you know the number system? I'm like yeah, of course 235 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: I didn't, but I said I did because I wanted 236 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: the work and my system was to listen and kind 237 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: of just make these little hieroglyphic lines that no one 238 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: can understand but me about this one, this song. There's 239 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: a little lick here, that melody goes up upon an Arrow, 240 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: whatever I need to do to kind of learn it. 241 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 1: And then I would sing those songs and then I 242 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: would um usually do a harmony and then I would 243 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: get in the car and I learned the next three 244 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: or four songs on the way of the two o'clock 245 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: because you can't cramming to each of your cramming for 246 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,079 Speaker 1: a test and to each one and then the next 247 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: day you do it all over again. So sometimes I wouldn't, 248 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: I couldn't tell you what I had sung that morning. 249 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: But if I eventually heard that on the radio, I'd 250 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: find myself singing along with a song and be like, Oh, 251 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: I did the demo. Isn't that crazy? So it's subconsciously, yeah, 252 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,079 Speaker 1: it's in here, but you're just sitting. Yeah. So did 253 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 1: you ever Sing Demos of a song? They're turned out 254 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: to be a pretty big one. Um, I did. I 255 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: did sing a demo for a Lori Morgan Song called 256 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 1: I guess you had to be there singing the demo 257 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: for that. Um, I sang. I'm trying to think there 258 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 1: was something else that I did that became a big song, 259 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: but Oh, I did a demo for one of my 260 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: very first demos ever was a song that became a 261 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: hit for Sammy kershaw called dunt go near the completely 262 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: switch up, totally D don't go near the water. Pride 263 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: to demo singing. When when it does kind of make it, 264 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: because you're like, oh, I was on the first level 265 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: of this. It kind of is and especially before you 266 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: have a record deal on your own and you're you're 267 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: not hearing yourself on the radio, then you just kind 268 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: of feel like, okay, I'm in, I am in this 269 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: business somehow because I'm you know, I'm I'm I'm contributing. 270 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 1: And then the first time I heard myself on the 271 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: radio was as a harmony singer. I Um Kathy Mattea 272 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: asked me to sing on a record of hers called 273 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: time passes by and I could hear my high harmony 274 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: and for me to hear myself singing on the radio, 275 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 1: that was the first time and it was like okay. 276 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 1: So every step was like a little step closer and 277 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: closer to where I wanted to be. We just did 278 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 1: the whole show about background singers and background singers that 279 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: you may not know. We're singing background and some of 280 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: the ones that we talked about where recently we're stableton 281 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: singing with Luke Brian and drink a beer. We went 282 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: back to your so vain from Um Carly Um Carlie Simon, 283 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: with make Jagger who just happened to be in the 284 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 1: studio and was like I'll sing, and you know he's 285 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: not credited or when the Beatles did UH. But we 286 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: did all this whole this whole show about background singers 287 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,599 Speaker 1: and you may not know who the famous background singer was, 288 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: kind of crossing on the wallflowers, things like that. But, 289 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: like you mentioned, you know you sing harmon you sing 290 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 1: background records. That was a step up from demo singing 291 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: when they would hire to come and sing the background 292 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: of the harmonies. Yeah, and I because you were doing 293 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: something that was for a record label that was potentially 294 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 1: going to get played on the radio. And I mean 295 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: I sang. You know, I think Garth Garth says I 296 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: don't know how many songs he's got, but I mean 297 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: I was singing on like a hundred songs of his 298 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: and sometimes we know it's sometimes you don't know it's me, 299 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 1: but um and he did the same for me. He's 300 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: singing on some of my records that you wouldn't know 301 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: he's singing on Um. And then Leroy Parnell, I sang 302 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 1: for as, I sang with Vince Gill, I sang Um. 303 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 1: I just I mean pretty much because I loved singing 304 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: harmony and I was good at it and I was inexpensive, 305 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 1: you know. So as a demo singer you're like, I 306 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: come in, I know the song, I can sing home 307 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: pitch and I can do my own harmonies and you know, 308 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 1: twenty bucks, maybe forty if there's harmony, if there's more 309 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: than one harmony, and you're out the door. You know. 310 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,079 Speaker 1: So it was a but you add those up in 311 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: a day and it was a pretty good living. So, 312 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 1: you know, it was. It was I made better money 313 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: doing demo than I did as a receptionist. And then 314 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: I got a record deal in I was broke, you know, 315 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: because then you stopped doing all of that and then 316 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: you you're then you're in debt. And so what's funny is, 317 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: and this happens again to a lot of my friends 318 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: people I know, is that you as your profile goes up, 319 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: you get poorer totally and it's a it's a weird 320 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:16,959 Speaker 1: juxtapossession of here you go, everybody's like, well, I check 321 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: this out, but you have no time to do anything 322 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: except kind of start over and you're not making any money. 323 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 1: You know, they don't give you an American idol. They 324 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: don't give you a bunch of money as soon as 325 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 1: you're not a record deal. You know they don't. And 326 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 1: if they, whatever they give you is to make your record, 327 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: which is, by the way, alone, because it's back, and 328 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: then you pay it all back and then you still 329 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:34,719 Speaker 1: don't own your record, you know. So it's kind of 330 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: a weird it's totally weird situation. Um, but yeah, and 331 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: then when you do I remember that the first money 332 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 1: that I actually made, which I never saw the check, 333 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: but the first money that came in, was the second album, 334 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 1: hearts and armor, when it went platinum. I remember that 335 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,839 Speaker 1: there was there was gonna be some actual money coming 336 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: in and Um, it went right back into reinvesting in 337 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 1: what we were doing next, because we were going on 338 00:13:57,720 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: tour and we were, you know, you're paying a band. 339 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 1: You got to you gotta Bust, you gotta pay for 340 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: and it's it's a lot, you know. So we never 341 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: really saw it. It's so much. I was looking, you know, 342 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: because I have a comedy band and we play some. 343 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: Do you know? We'll do a few thousand people and 344 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 1: I it's just pretty good little shows and I do 345 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:14,439 Speaker 1: stand up and we do some comedy songs in the 346 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: full band plays, but just to pay the band and 347 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: travel every show, it's thousands of thousands of dollars. I 348 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: was looking at my business manager and you know, because 349 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: I'm paying my drummer. You gotta pay your basis, you 350 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: gotta Pay Your tour manager. You're paying and by the 351 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: time you look at the whole thing, it's thousands of 352 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: dollars for every show. And if you're new, and some 353 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: of my you know, people have been opening acts and 354 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: you're getting, you know, five to seven for opening spot 355 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: one of these tours. Right, you're paying that to just 356 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: get there. Oh Yeah, you're you're not making any money 357 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: and I think it's harder, even harder now, because artists, 358 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: you know, they pretty much don't do a deal anymore. 359 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: That's not a three sixty deal right. So you don't 360 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: get so now you're you're used to be that, you're 361 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: you know your money is. You're paying everybody, you have, 362 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: you have all the responsibility, you pay all the expenses. 363 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: You're the last person paid. And now a percentage of 364 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: everything you make is going to your record label, including 365 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: your live show, including your merchandise, through every single thing. 366 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: So it sounds like Oh, for me, but I think 367 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: people just assume Oh, they're just all rolling in the 368 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: dough and it's really. It's really for ninety five of artists. 369 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: It's a really hard job that has you in debt. 370 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's not. It's not you have to. 371 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: You have to do it because you love it. You know. 372 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: It's the I would say it's the one percent of 373 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: the one percent who make money, because it's the one 374 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: percent to get to this town and be able to 375 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: just be so good and good, meaning you've done the 376 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: work to also be good, to be so good that 377 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: you get a shot and you get signed, and that's 378 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: just a shot, and then to be the one percent 379 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: who gets signed and actually can make money and make 380 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: a longer of it. It's the one it's the point 381 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: one percent of people who can actually, you know, make money. 382 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: It's it's way more difficult than I think some people 383 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: think it is. Yeah, and I think, I think especially 384 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: now with there's so many ways if you don't have 385 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: any kind of action into the music industry, there's so 386 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: many ways now to get your stuff out there, with 387 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: social media and Youtube and all that that everybody does think, Oh, 388 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: I'll just do this and I'll be famous or whatever, 389 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: and even if you become a sensation on Youtube, it 390 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: doesn't guarantee you know, the the goal is longevity and 391 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: that's not easy to do these online musicians. I was 392 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: reading about a rapper, young DOLF. I didn't know who 393 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: he was either. Maybe you do, maybe don't. You see 394 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: the look in my eyes. I'm like, I didn't know 395 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: he was. He was eating at a cracker barrel. It's 396 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: old DOLF's kid. Yeah, of course, and the door the 397 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: whole generation of dolfs. He had a golf video, I think. 398 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: He was eating at a cracker barrel and he had 399 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: five hundred thousand dollars of jewelry in his car. There 400 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: was they bust out his window. It was all in 401 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: his car. They stole it all out of there. And 402 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: I'm like how did this dude make five hundred thousand dollars? 403 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: He's an online rapper. He's a rapper who made it online. 404 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: I don't know where he's getting that money. But some 405 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: of these youtubers can make a quick pop, but you 406 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: got to sustain that. But half million dollars in a car? 407 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? And first of all, where's Your Business? 408 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: Where someone telling you to not? Nobody. With half a 409 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 1: million doges with the toury andody. Nobody was telling he 410 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: was half a million doges with the jewelry besides, maybe, 411 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: like Liz Taylor, I don't know. Jewel and in a car. Yeah, 412 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 1: so someone busted out the window. It was a camouflage wagon. 413 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: Busted it at the crack and I'm like get the 414 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 1: cracker barrel. He's also gonna get the cracker barrel. There's 415 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 1: there's some Irish. So many things wrong with his story. 416 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: I can't even when did like the for you? When 417 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 1: did they start to be hey, we gotta get this 418 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: music online. What part? What stage? Um, like a couple 419 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 1: of weeks ago, Tricia, I'm sort of in the last 420 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: man standing. Um, sorry, I it's it's hard because I 421 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:47,199 Speaker 1: come from a different kind of a different era, you know, 422 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 1: of the way music was made and sold, and I 423 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 1: I am also wanting to be current, so I want 424 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 1: to do things the way things are being done. I 425 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: know people consume music in such a different way. Um, 426 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: and this was really the album, this, let's be frank, album, 427 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: was the one that I said, okay, let's just put 428 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: it everywhere, because we just what we want is for 429 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 1: as many people to discover it as possible. So let's 430 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: put it in every single possible form we can, which 431 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 1: is why, if you buy the album or you buy 432 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 1: the vinyl, there's a digital download inside. We're on all 433 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: the streaming. Um, we just want we just want to 434 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:25,400 Speaker 1: get it out there. And you know, I it's tough 435 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 1: for me because I as a as a listener and 436 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: a consumer of music. I consume that same way. So 437 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: if I if I want to hear a song and 438 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 1: I and I go to youtube and watch the video, 439 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:38,959 Speaker 1: then I might be less likely to buy the record. 440 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 1: So what's going to motivate me to buy it if 441 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 1: I can just hear it in all these places for free? 442 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 1: But at the same time, you have to get it 443 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 1: out there for people to hear so, Um, we just 444 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: said let's go for it. Why do I play? For 445 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: the last time? This is from the let's be frank album. 446 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 1: I have it here. I have it on vinyl. I'm 447 00:18:54,520 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: in love the last time, my love lock with no melity. 448 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: This is the next to last track on the record. 449 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: I just look at the track list. I have a 450 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 1: vinyl you gave me here. Do you listen to things 451 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: on vinyl? I do. You know what's really cool is 452 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: that it makes me listen to albums again all the 453 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: way through, which is because it's hard to skip. I 454 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: agree with that. So and there's reasons for the the 455 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: way records are made in a certain order. It was 456 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 1: the first time in a long time that I had 457 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 1: to think about what do you want to start side 458 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: B with? You know, it's like, I haven't thought about 459 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:32,439 Speaker 1: that in a long time. You know, is it a 460 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 1: different order than if you were to stream the record 461 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: that you did the album the vinyl with? Yes, because, 462 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: because of that, because you want and on vinyl. One 463 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 1: of the reasons that we've moved away from vinyl as 464 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 1: a format is because it can only handle a certain 465 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:48,439 Speaker 1: amount of time on the on the vinyl before it 466 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: starts to lose the quality of the record. Well, no, 467 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 1: it's it's actually the minutes on the record. So like 468 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 1: something over is over. Twenty two minutes aside. Something about 469 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: the grooves in the vinyl makes the sound quality go 470 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: go the other way. So so there's that, you know. 471 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: So we actually had another song. We dropped a song 472 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: on this off of this to make it fit on 473 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: the vinyl and then I decided not to add it 474 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: back on CD. You can put as many as you want. Um, 475 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: I didn't want to. I didn't do that because I 476 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: didn't want there to be something somewhere that went anywhere else. 477 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,959 Speaker 1: So that's a consideration. And then you have to think about, well, 478 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: if somebody's gonna flip this record over, how does it's 479 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: almost like a a six song playlist on each side. 480 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 1: Here is come fly with me, come fly with me, 481 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: that's fly. Let's fine. Did you find that songs like this, 482 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,719 Speaker 1: the more legendary songs, were a little harder to do 483 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: because everybody knows them? Because I would be like, I 484 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: just don't want to screw this up and everybody knows. Yes, 485 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: and also, interestingly, the big, huge lush symphony ballads were 486 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 1: not as hard as the lighter like come fly with me, 487 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: kind of the Jazzy, more rhythmic things, because you find 488 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: yourself trying to think about being cool when you're singing 489 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 1: it and you have to not think about it. You 490 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: have to just like you have to go look, you 491 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 1: know what to sing. Don't overthink it, don't worry about it, 492 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: just sing it Um. But yes, I mean come fly 493 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 1: with me, one from my baby, one for the road. 494 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 1: Those are such quintessential frank songs, right. So you just 495 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: have to hope that people know that you are just 496 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,360 Speaker 1: trying to show your respect. And with frank it's such 497 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: a weird thing because you want to do it right 498 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: because of Frank's legend. However, people love frank and if 499 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 1: you don't do it right, I just I danced to 500 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: frank's Natra Song. I dance with stars and people were 501 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:40,880 Speaker 1: lighting me up because I wasn't great at the dancer. 502 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 1: It's like how would you, could you disrepect Frank Sinatra? 503 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: And I was like, I'm dancing, this isn't I didn't 504 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: New York, New York, and they were like how would 505 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 1: you just? I was like, I dance as good as 506 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 1: I could. I'm not a dancer. I just liked the song, 507 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: but I saw then a little bit how pissy people 508 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: would get when you wouldn't do everything wonderfully. What you 509 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 1: have to do is you have to just understand that. 510 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 1: If you I know that my respect level for him 511 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,679 Speaker 1: and his music is high. I know that my intention 512 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 1: was to make a record that was mine but also 513 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: was a very, uh, you know, specific tribute to him, 514 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,439 Speaker 1: and there's got to be somebody out there that is 515 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: like really, what does this country chicks thinking doing a 516 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: Sinatra record? But I really don't care. I mean it's 517 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: kind of like, if you're gonna do it, you know, 518 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: you go out and you dance your heart out, bobby bones, 519 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: and you don't worry about what. I worried about whatever, 520 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: but it thought because I wasn't for the last Um, 521 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 1: let's be frank's out. Um, I should mention that first 522 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: song that we played. That's the one that you and 523 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,360 Speaker 1: Garth wrote, right, that's what you told me. We talked 524 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: about it on the radio show. No, yeah, we UM, yeah, 525 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: that one. So I came home with, Um, this title 526 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: in my head and I think I told you when 527 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 1: we talked before that, you know, Garcia, one and all 528 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: the songwriter hall of Fames, and so I'm like, I 529 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: don't I'm not really a confident writer and I tend 530 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: to do things that come easy to me, but if 531 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: they're a little bit of work, I give up pretty quickly. 532 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 1: I'm good at that. And UH, writing is one of 533 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: those things that I mean, I've written all my cookbooks 534 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,400 Speaker 1: and their story is about my life and my family, 535 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 1: but they're not poems, they don't rhyme, they're not you know, 536 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 1: I'm not a poet like garth is, but he is. 537 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 1: So it worked out really well and we worked on 538 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 1: this together and I really I would. I would not have. 539 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: I didn't intend to write a song for the record. 540 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,360 Speaker 1: It wasn't it didn't happen at the same time. But Um, 541 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 1: when the song was finished it felt like a throwback 542 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 1: to another era. So when this album came about, it 543 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: felt like the place to put it. It fits with 544 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: all the other songs too, like I if I would 545 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: have just played it and not known. Um, yeah, sorry, 546 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm just off the end of a cold 547 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 1: and it's like the cough won't go away. Why you 548 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 1: take a drink, we'll take a quick break here. You 549 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: know something interesting about you is Um. You mentioned that 550 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 1: you that you sang on roughly a hundred garth songs. Yeah, 551 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 1: something like that. Do you remember the first time that 552 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: you ever went and sang with them, or was he 553 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:57,919 Speaker 1: just one of the singers you were popping in word? No, 554 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 1: I mean actually I met Garth Um. It's kind of 555 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: a famous story now. We were introduced by a guy 556 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,640 Speaker 1: named Kent Blazie, who wrote Um if tomorrow never came, 557 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 1: and I did Demos for Kent. So when during those 558 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 1: demo days, when I was driving around with the cassette 559 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: in my car, Um Kent was one of the first 560 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 1: guys I met in Nashville, long before I met Garth. 561 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: And so Kent had a studio in his attic of 562 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: his house and I would go over to his house 563 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 1: and I would sing and Kent kept saying I'm working 564 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 1: with this other guy and Um, you guys need to 565 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: meet each other. I feel like you guys would really 566 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: get along and he needed, he needs to call you 567 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: to do some of his chick singer Demos and like cool. 568 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: And garth was Um didn't have a record do it yet. 569 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 1: I think he had just signed with capital, didn't have 570 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: an album out yet. and Um, so one day Kent 571 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: hired us, uh, for to do a demo, a duet. 572 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: So we met at Kent's house in the Attic for 573 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,479 Speaker 1: ten bucks a song. And garth says he didn't get 574 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: paid anything that day, but I think he got ten 575 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 1: bucks that day. and Um, that was the day that 576 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: we met. So we met before he was, you know, famous. 577 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: And I remember him saying because that day, he said 578 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 1: he went to Bob Dull, his manager, and said this girl, 579 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 1: like you've got to hear this girl sing. I um 580 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: remember him saying, you know, I just got signed a capital, 581 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: I'm about to put up my first album and I 582 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: hope some day, you know, we can work together and uh, 583 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 1: if I'm lucky enough to do well and whatever. And 584 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: remember when he left, I thought that's cool, like, I 585 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 1: mean I thought this guy's got really big dreams. I 586 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: mean I hope, you know, like he's he's not even 587 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 1: released his album yet and he's asking me to, you know, 588 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:26,919 Speaker 1: be on his tour kind of thing. And then, of 589 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 1: course he became Garth Brooks. And after that first album, Um, 590 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 1: then he called me to come and sing on the 591 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 1: second album. And so it was songs like Um, uh, 592 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: Cole's shoulder when that on the second album. Cole shoulder 593 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: was on the second album. Um, I missed the friends 594 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: in the places day. I was out of town on touray. 595 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: Literally missed that day, which really bummed me out because 596 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 1: there's like everybody's on that song and I wanted to 597 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: be on that record and it wasn't. Um. But it's 598 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 1: fast forward to when I got my record deal a 599 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: couple of years later and uh, by that time friends 600 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: and will play this was out and he was this phenomenon, 601 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 1: you know. And so he he said, let's go over 602 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,239 Speaker 1: to M C A and go see Tony Brown and 603 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: um about you've seeing if you want to come out 604 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: on tour with me. And everybody was wanting to be 605 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: on that tour. I mean it was like the tour 606 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: to be on. And so when we got to the 607 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:17,479 Speaker 1: front desk, the receptionist, Willie she um, called back to 608 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: Tony and said Garth and Trisher here, and Garth Fundis 609 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: is my producer. So Tony Thought it was me and 610 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 1: my producer. And so I walked in with Garth Brooks 611 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: and he's like I'd like to I want to, I I 612 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 1: like talk to you about maybe taking Trisha on this 613 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: tour and of course I was like yes, you know. 614 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 1: So for me it was kind of a blessing and 615 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: a curse, because I had grown up doing demos. I 616 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 1: had not grown up in the clubs, I had not 617 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,199 Speaker 1: come up through learning my way in front of a 618 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: small crowd of drunks. So my very first audiences were 619 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: opening for garth and, you know, doing a set in 620 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: front of fifteen thousand people who didn't know who I was. 621 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: That was my first and, of course, garth being Garth, 622 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: you know, most of the time, if you're on a 623 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,439 Speaker 1: big tour like that, the artist has all their stuff 624 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:57,919 Speaker 1: and then there's a big curtain in front of it 625 00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: and you've got about three feet to stand in front 626 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: of and do your Oh, which would have been a 627 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 1: dream coming true for me, because I was terrified. And 628 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 1: of course garth's like here, use my whole stage, you know, 629 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: and I'm like Oh, that's so great. So that was 630 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 1: it was terrifying, but I had to. It was really 631 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 1: baptism by fire, you know, and I had sheese and 632 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: love the boy out, which was doing well, but that 633 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,159 Speaker 1: was the only song I had on the radio. So 634 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: people spent either the entire twenty minutes I was out 635 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 1: there getting popcorn or yelling for she's in loved the boy, 636 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 1: you know, until that was my last song. Is that 637 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,120 Speaker 1: the first song of yours that you heard on the radio? Yeah, 638 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 1: she's in love with the boy. Yeah, and play that 639 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 1: one a little bit. Did you know it was coming 640 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 1: when you heard it the first time? I remember exactly 641 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:38,880 Speaker 1: where I was. I was just I was right down 642 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 1: the street here in Green Hills, driving down the road 643 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: in a had a four door Burgundy Honda used and 644 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 1: I was driving down that road and I heard it 645 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 1: come on and I rolled all the windows down and 646 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 1: I don't know why. I guess I thought I wanted 647 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: everybody on the street to hear too. I don't know. 648 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,199 Speaker 1: I mean it was like this, you know, just this 649 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,679 Speaker 1: whole your whole body lights up, you know. and Um, 650 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: it was the most exciting thing in world because I 651 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: had literally wanted to be a singer since I was 652 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: five years old and I remember listening to the radio 653 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: and my mom's and dad's kitchen in our house thinking 654 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:11,880 Speaker 1: I was naive enough to think, well, they're on the radio, 655 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: why can't I be? And I think that's part of 656 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: the reason that I became one of those one percent 657 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 1: because I didn't know the odds. I don't know what 658 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: the odds were and I really just believable. If they 659 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 1: can do it, why can't I do it? Did you feel, 660 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,120 Speaker 1: when you were working at the front desk and people 661 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 1: would come into work in a profession that you wanted 662 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: to do, that you were as good as they were already, 663 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: because I know it's frustrating when people are doing what 664 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 1: you want to do, but did you feel like, Oh, 665 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 1: I'm I'm there talent. Wise it's just got a part 666 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 1: of my time? My thing was I believed in my voice. 667 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 1: I believed that I had a voice and that I 668 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,959 Speaker 1: could sing, but I'm I'm basically an introvert. I mean 669 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 1: I'm not like I grew up watching Barbara Mandrell on 670 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: television and she played every instrument and she danced and 671 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 1: she did all this stuff and I was not. I'm 672 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: not that kind of an entertainer, and so I really thought, Um, 673 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: you know, I'm I can sing, I'm a little bit overweight, 674 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 1: I don't play an instrument really. I can play a 675 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: little bit of guitar, but I don't so I didn't 676 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: think I had enough. I thought I've got this one 677 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: skill that I believe in, but I don't have all 678 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: these other ones. So I think for me it was 679 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 1: I did have a strong belief in myself, and I 680 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: don't think if I didn't, I wouldn't be sitting here, 681 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 1: but at the same time I had all these doubts 682 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: about the things that I thought I needed to be 683 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 1: able to do before I could be be successful at it. 684 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 1: So you felt you had to develop. Even then you 685 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: felt like you need to develop a bit more. Yeah, 686 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: you weren't so strong. No, no, I mean and I 687 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 1: went to Belmont where there were so many music majors 688 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 1: and you couldn't you throw a stick without somebody telling 689 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 1: you what a great singer they were, you know, and 690 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 1: I was not that girl. And even actually at at 691 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,719 Speaker 1: mtm records Um after I got my record deal, there 692 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 1: were people at that building who said we didn't even know, 693 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 1: we didn't know you sang really. Yeah, so you weren't. 694 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:56,959 Speaker 1: You weren't one of the ones that were like hey, 695 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: I sing, I sing again. I was not. I was not. 696 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 1: How did you change that then? How did you start 697 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: telling people I sing, I sing? I think it was 698 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: because I was shy and I wasn't bold about telling 699 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 1: people I was a singer, but after working at that 700 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: label for about six months and answering the phones and 701 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: ordering liquid paper and not and watching people do what 702 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 1: I wanted to do, I realized, if I don't tell 703 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: somebody this is what I do, if I don't really 704 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: get off my butt and try to make this happen, 705 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: then I'm gonna get to do this for the rest 706 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: of my life. And I reconnected. I had, Um, I 707 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 1: had a couple of songwriters. One was camp lazy that 708 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: I had done demos for and I um, I just 709 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: found those guys again and said Hey, I'm trying to 710 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: find I'm trying to get some demo work, and demo 711 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 1: work was my way out on once I started to 712 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: get enough work that I could actually quit my job. 713 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: Who wasn't for you that took the big shot like you, 714 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: we went wow, this person really like put it out 715 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: there for me to believed in me when maybe they 716 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: didn't have to. I mean there was there were several, 717 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 1: there were a lot of people. The chain of events 718 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 1: were the two garths, honestly, because when I met Garth Brooks, 719 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: he was the person who introduced me to Alan Reynolds, 720 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: his producer, and Alan was really a great friend to 721 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 1: me because Alan gave me advice based on what he 722 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 1: thought was best for me, not what he thought I 723 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: could maybe do for him. And he was the guy 724 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 1: who said you should meet Garth Fundis. He's a guy who, 725 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: I feel like you guys really hit it off. And 726 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 1: fundus was the one who, when he heard me seeing settle, 727 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 1: let's do a showcase. He's the one who went to 728 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: bat for me at the record labels and to help 729 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 1: me get a record deal and he was the one 730 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 1: who helped me get the music that was in my 731 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: head on to tape. What I what I really wanted, 732 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 1: how I really wanted to sound and the music, kind 733 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 1: of music that I wanted to make. So it was 734 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: it was really all of those people together, because I 735 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 1: would never met Garth Fundus it wouldn't been for Garth 736 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: Brooks Um and. So I guess it really was, you know, 737 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: ended up being my husband, the one that really believed 738 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 1: in me. That that was like the sergeant telling everybody 739 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 1: about me, and he didn't even have a single in 740 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 1: the radio. So he was doing that before he was. Yeah, 741 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 1: freaking Garth Brooks, he was just a guy named garth. 742 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 1: He just was he was a less famous guard probably 743 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: the time, and he was and then it was like 744 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: I know two guards now. Eventually the guy. There's a 745 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,239 Speaker 1: guy who's a tour manager's name is Garth, and he 746 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: came in and Um did an interview for a job 747 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 1: and I told him, I said, you're probably great at 748 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: what you do, but I can't know you, like I 749 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: just can't, like I I have two guards in my life. 750 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 1: It's already too weird, like I just can't do it. 751 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: That's a true story. That happened. That's a lot of gods, 752 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 1: I mean even two guards. I know obviously your husband 753 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 1: a bit. I don't know any other guards. I know. 754 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: It's so it's so odd and actually, if we're all 755 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 1: in the studio together, which happens, it's very strange, you know. 756 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 1: So actually I started calling Garth Fund as Tennessee, because 757 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:38,959 Speaker 1: I'm like, I have to have like a nickname for you, 758 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 1: because I can't because I'd say guarth, they both with 759 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 1: their head around, you know, like because they never hear 760 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: anybody else called garth. So yeah, so it's a it's 761 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 1: a thing on on this new let's be frank, record. 762 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 1: You went and recorded? Did you say you recorded like 763 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 1: with the like the Mike that Frank Sinatra Eddie used? 764 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,239 Speaker 1: Now does that Mike just chill there or like bring 765 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: it out for a special occasion? They use it? I 766 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 1: mean it's you know, capital is like a working museum, 767 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 1: you know. I mean you walk and you think this 768 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 1: stuff should be behind glass. But I guess it's cool 769 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: that you actually get to use this stuff. But at 770 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 1: the same time it's like it's Sinatra's microphone and Um 771 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 1: and the bar stools in there, the straight backed chairs, 772 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 1: they're they're like there's tons of photos of frank and 773 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 1: and Judy Garland and Dean Martin. All this stuff is 774 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 1: that is the capital gear and I guess that's part 775 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: of the VIBE. I mean you definitely feel the ghosts 776 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 1: in this room when you're in there, but I would 777 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: be afraid to use all that stuff. But I mean 778 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: some of the best microphones, like Nashville, where where I 779 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 1: make my country records, I use I used this annoyment 780 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 1: as Kell C twelve and it's a now it's a 781 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 1: microphone that I've used for years because I like how 782 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 1: it my voice can tend to if I get loud 783 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 1: at either the Michael Shut down or the Michael Sound 784 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 1: really I'll sound really tinny and high ending and I 785 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: don't I want it to still sound warm and that's 786 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 1: a challenge. And the other thing is if they put 787 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 1: a restaurant your voice, then you can handle the big loud, 788 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 1: but it just still shut your voice down. So it's 789 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 1: a thing. So there's this one microphone that I love 790 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 1: and I've been trying to buy this microphone forever because 791 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,760 Speaker 1: there are you can put four the same exact side 792 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 1: by side, but there's one that's going to sound different 793 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 1: and I've been stalking this microphone for years and I 794 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 1: finally I bought it like last week. Yeah, finally, finally. 795 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:25,439 Speaker 1: Based Um, not not terrible, but it's yeah, but hard 796 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: to get and it's an old microphone. So so this 797 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 1: microphone is probably years old. So it is a it's 798 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 1: that it's one of those things that doesn't that that 799 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 1: time is a friend too. It doesn't make it like old. 800 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 1: This is just old. There is something sweet about it, 801 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 1: and I will say that that that frank microphone was 802 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 1: warm and friendly and it just made your voice feel 803 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 1: like butter and you just felt like you could sing 804 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 1: anything one of the things that I would compare it 805 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 1: because I am very particular about the mics that I 806 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 1: use every day, right, because I talk every day. So 807 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 1: mikes are important to me, and also headphones. But I 808 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,399 Speaker 1: would compare them to people who don't. If you don't 809 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 1: work in music or sound like the you can have 810 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 1: ten pair of jeans that are exactly the same, but 811 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 1: one of those pair of Jeanes is gonna fit you 812 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 1: so just right. You may have three pairs, you own 813 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 1: it the same, but that one pair you always go 814 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,880 Speaker 1: back to because it just feels the best and you 815 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 1: can't really explain it so much like a little bit. 816 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:17,439 Speaker 1: You can, maybe it fits you a little better here, 817 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 1: but you're like, oh, this one just feels better, like 818 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 1: it fits me better. That's how I describe anology and 819 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 1: and the microphone too, and what you hear in your headphones. 820 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 1: It's so um subjective, right. So it's whatever feels good 821 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 1: to you and sometimes it's hard to describe. If, especially 822 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 1: if I'm in the studio and the engineer is Um 823 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 1: ask me what I need. Sometimes it's hard to say 824 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,799 Speaker 1: exactly what it's doing. But if you're if you've worked 825 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 1: with somebody long enough, you can kind of say I 826 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 1: feel this way or that way and they're like, oh, 827 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,359 Speaker 1: I got it, and they'll they'll figure it out. That's 828 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 1: the one thing I've really enjoyed about making records with 829 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,760 Speaker 1: Garth Fondis, who we've made it most of our records 830 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 1: with and we just finished in a country record now, 831 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,840 Speaker 1: is that we've worked together for so long that I 832 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 1: can tell him some thing's not right and I don't 833 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 1: know exactly what it is, but I but something in 834 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,319 Speaker 1: here is bugging me and he'll usually go, oh, I 835 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 1: bet you don't like the Blah Blah Blah here. Let's 836 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 1: turn that down. He he knows me well enough to 837 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,320 Speaker 1: kind of know. So we have a language that is 838 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 1: nice because I can't always articulate what I want, but 839 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 1: he seems to know. Then it's funny because the analogy 840 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 1: I used for that is like if you're getting like 841 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 1: a massage, it's hard to say exactly where it hurts, 842 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,319 Speaker 1: but if they like confined it, you're like, oh, that's it, 843 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 1: that's it, that's right there, like that's that's how adjusting 844 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,399 Speaker 1: something that you really can't explain is. Yeah, that's for sure. Oh, 845 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 1: you gotta come back a little bit there, right there, 846 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,839 Speaker 1: right there, there it is. That's that's also the sound 847 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 1: I do. I get a massage when you do from this, 848 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 1: let's be frank, record. Will you do any of these 849 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 1: songs live? Yeah, Um, we we just did our first show, 850 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 1: um at the Rainbow Room in New York, Um, fitting 851 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,320 Speaker 1: for the Frank Record, and it was the first time 852 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 1: I had done all of these songs and it's really funny. 853 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,439 Speaker 1: You will find this funny. I think I had done 854 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 1: a few of the songs but I hadn't done the 855 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 1: whole show and I've been doing a lot of press 856 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 1: in New York that week and, Um, I'd had a 857 00:36:58,520 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 1: long day. It was one of those morning shows where 858 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,919 Speaker 1: gotten up at four and then I had to show 859 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 1: that night and in about three o'clock that afternoon, before 860 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 1: sound check, it hit me. I haven't done these songs 861 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 1: like I don't know if I know all the words. 862 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:10,879 Speaker 1: Did they all laughed and the ladies of tramp. There's 863 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 1: a lot of verses and there's a lot going on 864 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 1: here and I'm nervous and as the Rainbow Room and 865 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 1: its New York. And so I spent a couple of 866 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 1: hours while I was getting made hair makeup and everybody's 867 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 1: coming and asking me questions, listening and listening and listening. 868 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,360 Speaker 1: So I was terrified that night because I thought I 869 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 1: can't go out of here and this. I've been waiting 870 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 1: to do this record for twenty years and I don't 871 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 1: remember all the words to the ladies of tramp like 872 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 1: I will be I will be carried out of here, 873 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:37,479 Speaker 1: you know, record on their phone right exactly, um. And 874 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,759 Speaker 1: but I did. I did find it was a good night. 875 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,760 Speaker 1: It was a good night, but I was terrified, Um, 876 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 1: and I loved it, like I loved singing these songs. 877 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 1: We did a few of like we did she's loved 878 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,880 Speaker 1: the boy, and we did um walk away Joe. But 879 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 1: I kind of couldn't wait to get to these songs 880 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,440 Speaker 1: just because, um. And when we do, when we do 881 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,800 Speaker 1: a tour, we'll do some of the songs that people 882 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,319 Speaker 1: know me for, but we'll also do these. It's just 883 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 1: I don't know how we're going to do it, because 884 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 1: you kind of want you're it's kind of changing into 885 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:04,840 Speaker 1: a different mode and when you're in that mode you 886 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,880 Speaker 1: kind of want to stay there. So we'll see how 887 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 1: we do it. I've done some symphony shows before before 888 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 1: I made this record. Um, and I have some really 889 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 1: cool orchestra arrangements for some of those songs. But Um, 890 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:19,319 Speaker 1: so we'll see expensive. Talking about expensive band orchestra. Yeah, 891 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 1: I mean, yes, I mean that's the thing. You know, 892 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 1: a lot of people don't use live orchestra anymore because 893 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 1: it's so expensive. L A was good and they get 894 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 1: a lot of work because they had a lot of 895 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 1: movie scores and stuff. But Um, fifty pieces. I mean, 896 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 1: you know, this album will have to do well for 897 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,319 Speaker 1: me to do another one because it's really a lot 898 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:36,840 Speaker 1: of money and you don't have to do that anymore. 899 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 1: But I can't imagine having done this another way. To 900 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,319 Speaker 1: be in the room with everybody, it's almost like you're 901 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 1: all taking insane breath in and out and the conductors 902 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,960 Speaker 1: across from you and he's looking at you for a 903 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 1: signal of how long do you want to pause here 904 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 1: and how and you're all working together and it feels 905 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 1: like you're just another instrument in the room and I 906 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 1: can't imagine doing it another way. It was. It's one 907 00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 1: of the coolest things ever. Would you use a prompter? 908 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 1: Let's say the words, you just didn't have it. Would 909 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 1: you put a prompter up. I mean, I hope I've 910 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 1: never done that. I hope not, because here's what here's 911 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,480 Speaker 1: what I find if I'm doing an award show or 912 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,799 Speaker 1: something and they they'll have the prompter. I even if 913 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:20,319 Speaker 1: I if I'm singing she's in love with the boy, 914 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,600 Speaker 1: which I sugn a million times, and I know I'm gonna, 915 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna look at the prompter, you know. So I 916 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 1: feel like it's a thing that makes you look and 917 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 1: I've been to shows and seeing people use prompter and 918 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 1: I find them staring at the prompter and so I 919 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:34,759 Speaker 1: don't want to be that girl. So as long as 920 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,800 Speaker 1: I can remember the words, and if I forget words, 921 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,240 Speaker 1: I just blame someone else, like I blame the microphone. 922 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 1: I pretend something's wrong, you know, like I have lots 923 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 1: of ways around it, or I just acknowledge I totally 924 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,759 Speaker 1: totally forgot the words. Um, I'd rather do that, I think, 925 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 1: than Um and I have a pretty good memory for lyrics. 926 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,919 Speaker 1: So as long as I do, I'm gonna, I'm gonna 927 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 1: keep doing that. You mentioned walk away Joe, and we'll 928 00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 1: play that just for a bit here. A song like 929 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 1: that that you're saying tent that sometimes right. Do you 930 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,840 Speaker 1: go into a mode of like when you drive, you 931 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 1: know you're driving, but you've driven this way so many 932 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:14,319 Speaker 1: times that you probably are doing most of that driving subconsciously? 933 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,279 Speaker 1: Do you do that with these massive songs where it's 934 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 1: just like you're so comfortable it's hard to not fall 935 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,399 Speaker 1: back into the subconscious place of just singing the song? 936 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,759 Speaker 1: I mean I would would be lying if I said 937 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:30,440 Speaker 1: I'd never done that. But of the time I I'm 938 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,920 Speaker 1: so dramatic and I love a story and I always 939 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 1: make myself a character in the story. So if in 940 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,319 Speaker 1: that in walkaway Joe, I'm a character for those three 941 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 1: and a half minutes, you know. So I really get 942 00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,279 Speaker 1: lost in the lyric of a song and I enjoy that. 943 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 1: That's part of what I get out of live performing. 944 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:48,319 Speaker 1: So I will say that I I'm sure I've done it, 945 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 1: but I also do really think about this. This is 946 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:55,040 Speaker 1: something that that I learned on the Garth tour. There's 947 00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 1: gonna be somebody in the audience who's never seen you 948 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 1: before and it's never going to see you again and 949 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,279 Speaker 1: the only time they're ever going to hear walk away 950 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 1: Joe Live is this moment. And so I don't really 951 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,799 Speaker 1: want to be making my mental grocery list while they're 952 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,120 Speaker 1: in there for that moment, and I do think about 953 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,839 Speaker 1: that before I go out. So, Um, I'm sure I've 954 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:14,200 Speaker 1: done it, but I try not to do it. And 955 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,799 Speaker 1: Mickey Mantle would say there's always somebody in in the 956 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,759 Speaker 1: stands who has never seen Mickey Mantle before and will 957 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,359 Speaker 1: never see Mickey Mantle again. So I gotta go out 958 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,879 Speaker 1: and make it special for that person. But it's such 959 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:27,120 Speaker 1: a hard thing to do because you think you do 960 00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,000 Speaker 1: it so often. Do you in Garthe like given to 961 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:30,799 Speaker 1: the PEP talks, because I've never met either one of 962 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,399 Speaker 1: you together separately, and you're not just awesome, and it's 963 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,919 Speaker 1: almost annoying when it's like I would like to I'd 964 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:38,239 Speaker 1: like to catch you on off day, because that just 965 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,440 Speaker 1: means you're human. You know, you guys have never not 966 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,799 Speaker 1: been awesome to me. Well, I'm more human than him, 967 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:44,200 Speaker 1: I mean I think he I think one of the 968 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:49,000 Speaker 1: reasons that I have um more of a grateful, positive 969 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,440 Speaker 1: outlook in life in general is because of him, because 970 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:55,239 Speaker 1: he he looks at everything in a positive way. I 971 00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:58,280 Speaker 1: mean he will, he will spend the positive no matter 972 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,440 Speaker 1: what and I think that I want to be that, 973 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 1: but I'm not as much so as him, but I 974 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 1: am more so that way with him in my life, 975 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,239 Speaker 1: and I think that there's just a I mean, honestly, 976 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 1: when you really think about it, what we'd get to 977 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,160 Speaker 1: do for a living, if you really think about it, 978 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 1: is so such a great job. It's not even really 979 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:22,279 Speaker 1: a job. It's like I'm getting paid to have every 980 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:23,920 Speaker 1: day be different in my life and I get to 981 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,640 Speaker 1: go sing and I get to basically set my own 982 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:30,279 Speaker 1: schedule and I'm doing what I have always wanted to 983 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,360 Speaker 1: do my whole life. So I really if I complain 984 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,640 Speaker 1: about that, someone should really just punch me in the face. 985 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,440 Speaker 1: Can I be devil's advocate for a second? Yes, you 986 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,759 Speaker 1: sacrifice a lot. You have a lot of talent. It's 987 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,200 Speaker 1: not that anybody can do it. And you not only 988 00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:44,319 Speaker 1: have a lot of talent, cause a lot of people 989 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,440 Speaker 1: have talent, but people don't have talent and work ethic. 990 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:50,879 Speaker 1: And again it's that perfect mixture of the both and 991 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,200 Speaker 1: also catching a couple of breaks and giving a couple 992 00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,799 Speaker 1: of breaks. Like it is. I agree with you because 993 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,440 Speaker 1: I feel the same way, but again, it's not like 994 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:00,120 Speaker 1: it was handed to you and you go out and 995 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,239 Speaker 1: go you know what, this this is given to me. 996 00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:03,759 Speaker 1: I actually appreciate what was given to me, like you 997 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,839 Speaker 1: work so hard for it. Well, I think there is. 998 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:08,759 Speaker 1: I mean I think it's a will rogers quote that 999 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:13,799 Speaker 1: something about Um luck is disguised in overalls and something 1000 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:15,239 Speaker 1: like that, like it's a bunch of work. But I 1001 00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 1: mean I think it is a drive that makes the 1002 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:22,200 Speaker 1: work feel like not work really, because it's you're so driven. 1003 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:23,960 Speaker 1: I don't, I always say I don't feel like I 1004 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,000 Speaker 1: chose this, like I never I didn't wake up one 1005 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:27,480 Speaker 1: day and go hey, I think it'd be really cool 1006 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,040 Speaker 1: to be a singer. I feel like I was and 1007 00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 1: it felt like a calling and it was almost it 1008 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,000 Speaker 1: was hard when I couldn't do it because, as a 1009 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,239 Speaker 1: young girl and as a teenager in a small town 1010 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,560 Speaker 1: where nobody did what I wanted to do, I didn't 1011 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:40,920 Speaker 1: know how to go about it and that was the 1012 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,560 Speaker 1: most frustrating part. Once I got to Nashville, then I'm like, okay, 1013 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,239 Speaker 1: I'm here now and I'm just gonna be here and 1014 00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,799 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm just gonna figure it out. There's a 1015 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:54,080 Speaker 1: drive there and I am a person who I like balance. So, 1016 00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 1: like yesterday, I didn't have anything on my schedule yesterday 1017 00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,319 Speaker 1: and I say to my pajamas most of the day. 1018 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:01,960 Speaker 1: I play with my dogs, I read a book, I 1019 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,359 Speaker 1: had coffee and I loved it, but I couldn't. I 1020 00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:09,600 Speaker 1: couldn't do that every day. I need this. This has 1021 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,680 Speaker 1: been a great day. It's been a really busy day. 1022 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,640 Speaker 1: I've had the best day. So it's a it's and 1023 00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 1: it's because I'm doing what I enjoy. Yeah, I feel 1024 00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:18,279 Speaker 1: the same way and I work really hard, but I 1025 00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,799 Speaker 1: also love what I do, which makes me work really hard, 1026 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,120 Speaker 1: which is because I love it's just a it's a 1027 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:27,279 Speaker 1: nice little circle. Yeah, the recycle arrows almost. It's like 1028 00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:28,799 Speaker 1: you do have to figure out the balance when you 1029 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:30,560 Speaker 1: have I don't have that yet. Do you know anybody? 1030 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,200 Speaker 1: I don't even my balance. Let me know. Um, yeah, yeah, 1031 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,319 Speaker 1: I don't know if I can help you. Don't tell them. 1032 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:37,879 Speaker 1: I don't drink, though, because it runs the whole thing. 1033 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:39,920 Speaker 1: I want to talk about that, though, bobby. We have 1034 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:41,520 Speaker 1: to find you, we have to find you that balance. 1035 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:43,440 Speaker 1: You need it because you will just work all the 1036 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:44,600 Speaker 1: time if you don't have a bad well, that's what 1037 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,960 Speaker 1: I do here's my cycle, is that I go I'm 1038 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,279 Speaker 1: gonna work all the time because if I work hard, 1039 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,719 Speaker 1: I get because somebody will like me right, and then 1040 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:53,880 Speaker 1: I work all the time and I don't build my 1041 00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,880 Speaker 1: my ecosystem of friends and folks, and so when I go, 1042 00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:58,120 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm not gonna work, I'm gonna take 1043 00:44:58,120 --> 00:44:59,560 Speaker 1: a second and I take a break and there's no 1044 00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,000 Speaker 1: ecosis of my friends that folks are on me because 1045 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:02,719 Speaker 1: I haven't built it like being a gardener. We're not 1046 00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:04,960 Speaker 1: playing in the garden for my food. We didn't plan. 1047 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:06,759 Speaker 1: An idiot. That's what it's like. That's what I'm saying 1048 00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:08,360 Speaker 1: to myself. And then I'm like, you know, it's screwed this. 1049 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:09,879 Speaker 1: I don't want to be I don't have system's gonna 1050 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:11,960 Speaker 1: keep working. So it never end. After you've been through 1051 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,200 Speaker 1: all the netflicks you can watch, then it's time to 1052 00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,239 Speaker 1: go back to work. Yeah, I do want you have 1053 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,759 Speaker 1: watched Netflix. What do you what do you watch recently? Um, well, 1054 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:21,840 Speaker 1: I've been on this whole kick of all these really 1055 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:26,520 Speaker 1: disturbing documentaries on everything that you know, from abducted in 1056 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:30,120 Speaker 1: plain site, so disturbing I couldn't I couldn't help myself 1057 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,200 Speaker 1: to dirty John Too. Like it's just like I really 1058 00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,359 Speaker 1: need to watch like a Disney movie, although usually someone 1059 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,080 Speaker 1: dies in the first five minutes, so that's not good. 1060 00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,200 Speaker 1: When need to find something else, that abducted a plain sight. 1061 00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,920 Speaker 1: So disturbing, so incredibly disturbing. I'm glad it was only 1062 00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:44,960 Speaker 1: one episode I got. Wouldn't have done in a second one. Yeah, 1063 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,560 Speaker 1: I get excited when I find me too, I get 1064 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:49,600 Speaker 1: excited when I find out a show that I love 1065 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,000 Speaker 1: has new episodes that I didn't know so that I 1066 00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,480 Speaker 1: can bange watch. So I just figured out the second 1067 00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,480 Speaker 1: half of the last of this current season of shameless 1068 00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,799 Speaker 1: is out and I didn't know it. So yesterday when 1069 00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:01,520 Speaker 1: I was in my pajamas, I got to watch like 1070 00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,080 Speaker 1: four episodes in a row that I had not seen 1071 00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,319 Speaker 1: and I was so excited because I love that show. Um, 1072 00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:09,759 Speaker 1: you watched Ted Bundy tapes? I did. That's that's I 1073 00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:11,200 Speaker 1: can't wait to the movie. I can't wait to see 1074 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,600 Speaker 1: the movie movies and it's it's a Netflix movie too, 1075 00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,040 Speaker 1: is it? Yeah, so it'll be right right into our there. 1076 00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,640 Speaker 1: Even the great isn't the thing about Netflix movies is 1077 00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:19,920 Speaker 1: that they don't even tell you they're coming so you 1078 00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:21,319 Speaker 1: don't still and go I can't wait, I can't wait. 1079 00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,680 Speaker 1: It's like boom, you got a movie and I love it. 1080 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,640 Speaker 1: It's good. I was a kid. I was in high 1081 00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:31,160 Speaker 1: school when Um or junior high was. It was eighties, right, 1082 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,600 Speaker 1: so I was in high school. So when that story 1083 00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,640 Speaker 1: was real and a thing, it was before cell phones. 1084 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:40,680 Speaker 1: It was also really before like serial murders. It was 1085 00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,360 Speaker 1: like that was kind of the beginning. So I remember 1086 00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:44,880 Speaker 1: and one of my best friends who lives here in 1087 00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:49,560 Speaker 1: Nashville is from Seattle and she she there's that that 1088 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,640 Speaker 1: park that one of the girls was she was in 1089 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,920 Speaker 1: that park that day and Um, she and her girlfriend 1090 00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,279 Speaker 1: saw a VW bug drive by and slow down and 1091 00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:58,680 Speaker 1: then they went and they ran. They ran into the 1092 00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:00,360 Speaker 1: woods and I'm like maybe you saw that, like I 1093 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,080 Speaker 1: think you might have seen Ted Bundy that day. Like 1094 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,040 Speaker 1: so it's it's terrifying when you realize that it's kind 1095 00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,000 Speaker 1: of happened, when it could have happened to you as 1096 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,759 Speaker 1: as a young girl, and also that it was kind 1097 00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:13,359 Speaker 1: of the beginning of this whole serial killer thing. So 1098 00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:15,400 Speaker 1: if you if you were alive during that time, I 1099 00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,080 Speaker 1: mean our kids go? Well, I don't, I don't even 1100 00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,120 Speaker 1: understand it. I'm like, yeah, it was, it was a thing, 1101 00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,000 Speaker 1: it was a big deal. The craziest thing about that 1102 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:24,080 Speaker 1: to me was state to state you could basically go 1103 00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,120 Speaker 1: do whatever you want in this state, just jump over 1104 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,480 Speaker 1: the state line and they didn't share records with each other. 1105 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:30,759 Speaker 1: You're a brand new man, right. I mean, isn't he 1106 00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,480 Speaker 1: the reason that there became like an FBI database because 1107 00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,560 Speaker 1: there wasn't one? Right? That, and also the fact that 1108 00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:40,520 Speaker 1: he escaped jail twice blew my mind. He would practice 1109 00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:42,479 Speaker 1: jumping off his top cell to get his legs strong 1110 00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:44,080 Speaker 1: so we can jump out of the building. Then when 1111 00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:45,399 Speaker 1: he lost all the weight, so we could go through 1112 00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,080 Speaker 1: the little ceiling square in the ceiling to get out 1113 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,840 Speaker 1: of me. Come on, yeah, that was crazy. Then I 1114 00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,520 Speaker 1: felt guilty when it was over because I really enjoyed it, 1115 00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,560 Speaker 1: like I enjoyed the show of it and I enjoyed 1116 00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:58,480 Speaker 1: learning the history of it, and I'm like, Oh, I 1117 00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,040 Speaker 1: shouldn't feel that way. So then I watched like the 1118 00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:05,600 Speaker 1: office to kind of cleanse myself something. I do want 1119 00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:07,480 Speaker 1: to talk about this country record that you're gonna put out. 1120 00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:08,879 Speaker 1: I just called it. I wouldn't call it a country record. 1121 00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:13,479 Speaker 1: I would syre your record, another record because like it's 1122 00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:17,080 Speaker 1: time right, like just is me talking, like it's time right. Yes, 1123 00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:18,759 Speaker 1: I mean, thank you, I mean, yes, I mean I 1124 00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:22,920 Speaker 1: think what happened, honestly, was I didn't say I'm going 1125 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,400 Speaker 1: to take several years off of making records. It just 1126 00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,560 Speaker 1: the tour with Garth, plus the cooking show, which I 1127 00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:31,799 Speaker 1: you know, I never dreamed I would be doing all 1128 00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:36,919 Speaker 1: this other stuff. It's sort of became well, I'll, I'll 1129 00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:38,560 Speaker 1: make a record, I'll make a record, and it just 1130 00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,040 Speaker 1: kind of kept getting put on the back burner. And 1131 00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,279 Speaker 1: it is what feeds my soul, it is what I do, 1132 00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,920 Speaker 1: it is what brings me the most joy of all 1133 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:49,000 Speaker 1: these things I do that I love. And so last year, 1134 00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:52,640 Speaker 1: or two thousand eighteen, after the tour ended, I just 1135 00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,520 Speaker 1: made it a priority and like I'm making music this year, 1136 00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,440 Speaker 1: and that's how the Sinatra record happened. And then I 1137 00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,080 Speaker 1: started the country record, I would call it a country record, 1138 00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:06,160 Speaker 1: in Uh in May, and we're mixing starting this week. So, Um, 1139 00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:09,680 Speaker 1: it was so much fun. It reminded me that that 1140 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:11,879 Speaker 1: whole life is short and get get after it thing. 1141 00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:13,719 Speaker 1: I don't want to wait. I want to just keep 1142 00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:15,880 Speaker 1: making music. I'm not worried about at this point in 1143 00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:19,400 Speaker 1: my life. I'm not worried about how I'm going to 1144 00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:21,200 Speaker 1: get it out there. I'll figure that out. I mean, 1145 00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,080 Speaker 1: I don't know about radio, I don't know about any 1146 00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,120 Speaker 1: of those things, but I wasn't thinking about any of 1147 00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:27,960 Speaker 1: that in the studio. I was just finding songs that 1148 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,480 Speaker 1: felt good. I laughed a lot, I sang a lot. 1149 00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,520 Speaker 1: I feel like, my voice feel strong, I feel good 1150 00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,200 Speaker 1: and I just I did what I do. If you're 1151 00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,040 Speaker 1: going to call yourself an artist, that's what you do 1152 00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:40,360 Speaker 1: and then you figure out. Someone else will help you 1153 00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:47,480 Speaker 1: figure out how you get it out there. Do you 1154 00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:50,520 Speaker 1: guys record a song and songs that you obviously really 1155 00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:52,640 Speaker 1: love and go, oh, that could be the single, like, 1156 00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:54,560 Speaker 1: do you do you now? Are you leaning towards one? 1157 00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:56,440 Speaker 1: You're going, I think this is the one that and 1158 00:49:56,440 --> 00:50:00,319 Speaker 1: whatever single means, radio highlighted on playlist. You know it first. 1159 00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:03,920 Speaker 1: It's funny because at first I said and I said, Um, 1160 00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:05,799 Speaker 1: I'm not making her don't I'm not even gonna send 1161 00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:07,560 Speaker 1: this record radio, like I'm just gonna make an album. 1162 00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:09,360 Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't care about have anything on 1163 00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,680 Speaker 1: the radio. And then as I started making the record 1164 00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,880 Speaker 1: and started listening to the songs and started like I 1165 00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:17,480 Speaker 1: love these songs, and I'm like, well, this could be 1166 00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,799 Speaker 1: a single, you know. And so so we're I'm just 1167 00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:22,040 Speaker 1: about at that place where I'm going to figure that out. 1168 00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:25,120 Speaker 1: But I it's funny because I guess it's ego or 1169 00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:28,120 Speaker 1: it's my own self confidence, but when I hear it, 1170 00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:31,799 Speaker 1: I go I I can hear this on on the radio. So, 1171 00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:33,920 Speaker 1: I mean, that'll be for a group of people to 1172 00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,399 Speaker 1: weigh in on. But I feel like, Um, I feel 1173 00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,120 Speaker 1: like there's there's there's some things and the cool thing 1174 00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:42,240 Speaker 1: is the hard thing is I'm fifty four, I'm a woman. 1175 00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,040 Speaker 1: There's so those are two big strikes against me for radio. 1176 00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:51,360 Speaker 1: But the good news is that there is more opportunity, 1177 00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:54,640 Speaker 1: I think, and openness to do things however you do 1178 00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:57,640 Speaker 1: them now. So it doesn't it's not as well you've 1179 00:50:57,640 --> 00:50:59,799 Speaker 1: got to be on these three labels and you can 1180 00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:01,680 Speaker 1: only to get there's there's just a million ways to 1181 00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:04,279 Speaker 1: do it now. So I think there's while some things 1182 00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,240 Speaker 1: are harder, some things are easier. So Um, we'll see 1183 00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,560 Speaker 1: I'm excited about it. Well, thank you. Yeah, I am too, 1184 00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,520 Speaker 1: I really am. I mean I when we made the this, 1185 00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,560 Speaker 1: let's be frank, in the summer, I've been chomping at 1186 00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:18,439 Speaker 1: the bit to get it out and now that it's out, 1187 00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:22,000 Speaker 1: I'm chomping at the bit to get the country record out. So, Um, 1188 00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:25,200 Speaker 1: I'm I'm very excited to come in and talk to 1189 00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:28,239 Speaker 1: you about it. Yeah, don't send it to me early, though, 1190 00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:29,919 Speaker 1: I will not listen to it. I will not send 1191 00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:31,600 Speaker 1: it to early right, not that you were going to, 1192 00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,160 Speaker 1: but don't send it to me early. What's good to know, 1193 00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:35,279 Speaker 1: because I want to. I want to send it to 1194 00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:38,120 Speaker 1: you and you'll listen to it. Well, my thing is 1195 00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:41,160 Speaker 1: I think you can be of the industry, other people right, 1196 00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,359 Speaker 1: one of the two. And I don't listen to music 1197 00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,200 Speaker 1: early because I don't want to be cooler than my people, 1198 00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:48,600 Speaker 1: and so some of my best friends will go won't 1199 00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:50,200 Speaker 1: listen to it. I just I have a rule, and 1200 00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,840 Speaker 1: it's also a slippery slope. But but it's mostly about 1201 00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:54,680 Speaker 1: I don't want to be of the industry and it 1202 00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,439 Speaker 1: gets me a trouble. A Lot. You know good and bad. 1203 00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:01,520 Speaker 1: You Know Yin Yang, but I just I won't because, 1204 00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,600 Speaker 1: like I like to wake up on the Friday and 1205 00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:07,160 Speaker 1: I'll listen it before I go to show, sometimes sometimes after. 1206 00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:08,960 Speaker 1: Never can I hear a full record before I go 1207 00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:10,960 Speaker 1: on the air. It takes an hour. Sometimes it's a 1208 00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:14,040 Speaker 1: weeds a record takes nineteen minutes. One of the two. Um, 1209 00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:17,560 Speaker 1: and I like to experience it like my people experience it. 1210 00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:21,000 Speaker 1: And so, yeah, like I'm excited if you come in 1211 00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:22,600 Speaker 1: early and we do an interview. This is what this 1212 00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:26,319 Speaker 1: is my moral dilemma. If you come in early, because sometimes, 1213 00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:27,799 Speaker 1: let's say you're gonna go do to press in New York, 1214 00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:29,560 Speaker 1: you're not gonna be able to talk to me on 1215 00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:31,480 Speaker 1: album day and you come in on a Wednesday and 1216 00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:33,879 Speaker 1: have to like play the clips, I feel like I'm 1217 00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,520 Speaker 1: dirty to my people because but I have to the interview. 1218 00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:38,400 Speaker 1: I feel bad. I shouldn't hear this. It's like a 1219 00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:41,040 Speaker 1: baby that covers ear muffs from old school. Well, it's 1220 00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,880 Speaker 1: kind of like I will, like I want to go 1221 00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,360 Speaker 1: support the artist. So even for myself, like I have 1222 00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:47,960 Speaker 1: a thing where I go and buy my album on 1223 00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:49,719 Speaker 1: the first day. It's kind of like that. I mean 1224 00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:53,640 Speaker 1: I um and if somebody gives me an advanced copy 1225 00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:55,080 Speaker 1: of something, I still want to go buy it because 1226 00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,160 Speaker 1: I want all the artwork and I want I want everything. 1227 00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:58,880 Speaker 1: I want to I want to have the original whatever. 1228 00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,480 Speaker 1: So I still do that. Since the very first album, 1229 00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:03,880 Speaker 1: I go and buy my my records every on the 1230 00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,319 Speaker 1: on release day. Let me mention TRICIA's tailgate real quick. 1231 00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:09,080 Speaker 1: Tell me about that. So when we were doing the 1232 00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,520 Speaker 1: tour with Garth, this last one, I guess I just 1233 00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:13,319 Speaker 1: didn't notice it because, I mean, I'm a sports girl, 1234 00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,440 Speaker 1: so I know about tailgating and that's the thing in 1235 00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:19,400 Speaker 1: Georgia especially. But Um, everybody tailgates for these concerts and 1236 00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:21,279 Speaker 1: they're there all day long and they're just waiting and 1237 00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:23,440 Speaker 1: waiting for the show. So we thought we'd set up 1238 00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:26,160 Speaker 1: a big tent make it a very cool, very nice tailgate. 1239 00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,920 Speaker 1: If you want to come beforehand, seven or eight Tricia 1240 00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:32,600 Speaker 1: dishes and drinks and games and we're gonna do food demos. 1241 00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:34,759 Speaker 1: It's just gonna be it's kind of like the ultimate tailgate. 1242 00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,200 Speaker 1: For about three hours before doors open to go in 1243 00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:39,880 Speaker 1: and see the stadium show. Guys are still giving to 1244 00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:43,560 Speaker 1: the fans. You know that. You probably hear it some, 1245 00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,040 Speaker 1: but you don't get here. People talk about you behind 1246 00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:49,240 Speaker 1: your back that often. But the thing that's said about 1247 00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:50,840 Speaker 1: both you and Garth, and I said up to your 1248 00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:53,000 Speaker 1: face a minute ago, you guys are always great, and 1249 00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:56,120 Speaker 1: so we wonder, are you real? Like you, what's under 1250 00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,120 Speaker 1: that skin? I have to get back in my pod later. 1251 00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:00,640 Speaker 1: Do you walk into reach our just like back in, 1252 00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:02,719 Speaker 1: like the IPHONE? But yeah, I mean you guts are 1253 00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,080 Speaker 1: and I think that for a lot of artists that's 1254 00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:09,520 Speaker 1: something to look at. Is that you guys really you 1255 00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,320 Speaker 1: know where my grandmaways say, well, your bread is buttered 1256 00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:15,120 Speaker 1: and and I've learned from you guys too, and but 1257 00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:16,920 Speaker 1: I also know that my people got me here there. 1258 00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:18,000 Speaker 1: I want to be doing this, I want to be 1259 00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:19,719 Speaker 1: doing the radio show, I want to be doing stand 1260 00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:21,760 Speaker 1: up on the road if it weren't for the people. 1261 00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,400 Speaker 1: But you guys are superstars and you still keep that 1262 00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:26,680 Speaker 1: as your number one that's awesome to me. Well, I 1263 00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:28,400 Speaker 1: think you definitely have to keep in mind that you 1264 00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:29,800 Speaker 1: don't get to go out there and do those shows 1265 00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:31,839 Speaker 1: if those people don't show up. You know that that 1266 00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,040 Speaker 1: doesn't that doesn't fly. You know, I think there's a 1267 00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,680 Speaker 1: real realization of that and I I'm in a relationship. 1268 00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:39,080 Speaker 1: I keep giving garth credit, but I mean when I 1269 00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,359 Speaker 1: my very first tour was opening for him in nine 1270 00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,520 Speaker 1: and it was like it was like the way to 1271 00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:48,640 Speaker 1: be one on one with him, because he was he was. 1272 00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:52,759 Speaker 1: He became a superstar, I mean like no one has 1273 00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:56,680 Speaker 1: seen in country music, and I watched him helping roll 1274 00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,520 Speaker 1: up cords that load out and being kind to every 1275 00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:03,719 Speaker 1: single in his path and I remember thinking, well, he's 1276 00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:05,719 Speaker 1: Garth Brooks, like he doesn't have to be nice and 1277 00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,920 Speaker 1: people won't nobody's gonna say anything because he's the like 1278 00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:12,719 Speaker 1: he's The star of the show. But the way he 1279 00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:16,279 Speaker 1: treated people was a lesson for me. And we both 1280 00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:19,160 Speaker 1: were raised by families who would not have tolerated us 1281 00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:20,920 Speaker 1: not being nice to people. But at the same time, 1282 00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:23,360 Speaker 1: you know you gotta hit record and people are opening 1283 00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:25,759 Speaker 1: the door for you and carrying your bags. I might 1284 00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,279 Speaker 1: have gone down the path if somehow in somewhere in 1285 00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,960 Speaker 1: my brain thinking I deserve that. But living with him 1286 00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:34,080 Speaker 1: and being around him, it was a great lesson to 1287 00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:37,680 Speaker 1: see to remember who you are always and no matter 1288 00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:39,560 Speaker 1: what happens to you. And I mean I really do 1289 00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:42,520 Speaker 1: credit him with that because he and it's genuine. You know, 1290 00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:44,200 Speaker 1: I've known him such a long time now and I 1291 00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:46,759 Speaker 1: thought at some point the other shoe's gotta drop, like 1292 00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:49,000 Speaker 1: I think he's I think he's a he's a Unicorn 1293 00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:52,359 Speaker 1: for sure, like I keep thinking I'm going to see 1294 00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:55,200 Speaker 1: the other side and he's just a good guy. He 1295 00:55:55,320 --> 00:56:00,839 Speaker 1: just is. Andah, Oh, yeah, total baby. Yeah, total baby. Yes, 1296 00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:03,320 Speaker 1: he's got a cold. He's like, Oh my God, he's 1297 00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,160 Speaker 1: not a good patient. Just what I figured. I knew 1298 00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:09,719 Speaker 1: he's not. All right, let's be frank. Um is out 1299 00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:13,560 Speaker 1: now and that the new country record, which we haven't 1300 00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:14,880 Speaker 1: said a name of anything yet. I don't know a 1301 00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:16,520 Speaker 1: name of anything. You don't know the name yet. I've 1302 00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:18,279 Speaker 1: got a couple ideas, but I'll probably have one by 1303 00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:26,920 Speaker 1: the next let me toss one at you. Let's be TRICIA. Yeah, Nice, yes, 1304 00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,160 Speaker 1: we're doing it. Let's I really enjoyed our talking. You know, 1305 00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:32,359 Speaker 1: I really enjoy you. You are a delight, you really are. 1306 00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:35,000 Speaker 1: I love this. It's like this time has gone really quickly. 1307 00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:38,719 Speaker 1: So we've been here seven hours really already. Tomorrow. Wow. Yeah, 1308 00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:41,479 Speaker 1: it's like when you start dating someone, you talk older 1309 00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:44,720 Speaker 1: than night. That's what he yeah, right, yeah, you wouldn't 1310 00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,839 Speaker 1: know anything about that, about that so long. All right, 1311 00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:51,400 Speaker 1: let's be frank, really. Thank you and everybody check out. 1312 00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,480 Speaker 1: Let's be frank, and we'll just sit and wait, sit 1313 00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:55,799 Speaker 1: on our hands until the country. And No, I won't 1314 00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:57,200 Speaker 1: play it for you early, but I won't bring it 1315 00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:58,919 Speaker 1: to you the day of. If you have a party, 1316 00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:00,360 Speaker 1: I will not be there. We're to have to do 1317 00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:02,040 Speaker 1: the release a Nashville just so I can come and 1318 00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:03,719 Speaker 1: play it for you that day. It's going to have 1319 00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:05,560 Speaker 1: to happen. It's so weird to have an artist play 1320 00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:07,000 Speaker 1: music for you, though, because I have to do this 1321 00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:08,920 Speaker 1: thing where you just Bob your head and act like 1322 00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:10,960 Speaker 1: you're feeling it. This is not. What do you do 1323 00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,440 Speaker 1: if you're not like? What if you don't say you do? 1324 00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:16,080 Speaker 1: You go into it the same way every time. When 1325 00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:20,000 Speaker 1: this is me, you ready, I'm act right now. M 1326 00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:23,680 Speaker 1: that's it. Oh Wow, it's good, like it's the same 1327 00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:25,760 Speaker 1: bust that. I'm gonna Watch you like a hawk next 1328 00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:27,560 Speaker 1: time we get together and you're listening to my music, 1329 00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:30,720 Speaker 1: I will know. I won't listen to ask Leslie. I 1330 00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:32,240 Speaker 1: will listen to a song with somebody in front of 1331 00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:34,720 Speaker 1: me out of your mind. So, as an artist, I 1332 00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:37,680 Speaker 1: go and sit with a publisher and a songwriter and 1333 00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:39,920 Speaker 1: they play me their song that they poured their heart into, 1334 00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:43,600 Speaker 1: and I have to say face to face to them, 1335 00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:45,200 Speaker 1: I mean that's just not for me. Should I say 1336 00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:48,120 Speaker 1: that to you record? You know what? Just not for me. 1337 00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:49,840 Speaker 1: I mean it's great, but it's just not for me, 1338 00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:52,280 Speaker 1: like the old stuff. You would kill me, it's really 1339 00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:54,160 Speaker 1: that hard. That's your job to do that. It's hard 1340 00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:56,960 Speaker 1: to do. I hate, I hate to make people sad. Yeah, 1341 00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:59,400 Speaker 1: me too. So let me just say already I love 1342 00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:01,640 Speaker 1: every song you you're you're made and are gonna make 1343 00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,400 Speaker 1: thank you alright, Titt, to hear what episode one sixty 1344 00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:06,800 Speaker 1: before we'll see you guys next time. m